In today’s fanatic-dominated Republican Party, theocracy is all the rage. But they usually try to dance around it a little bit, and sugar coat it for the masses.
Not Colorado GOP Senate candidate Ken Buck, though. He comes right out and says it: ‘I Disagree Strongly With The Concept Of Separation Of Church And State.’
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:32:50am |
Does he not understand that having any one particular religion as part of the government, it is being sanctioned?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:33:25am |
Of course he disagrees with the founding fathers, while comparing himself to them. Of course, he hates fundamental, sound American ideals that have safeguarded our liberties, while wrapping himself in the flag.
While we are at it, his ilk talk about violent revolution against America, if it doesn't submit to their delusional and twisted world view.
These people are the worst of America, whipped into a fury by propagandists who can't hold the tiger they have unleashed by the tail.
They are a cancer. They are trying their level best to destroy the fundamentals of our nation in more ways than one.
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:34:38am |
Opposition to the "Establishment Clause" is clearly a GOP platform.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:34:50am |
The GOP is really pushing these religious right issues HARD in this election. Nearly every GOP candidate is sounding like Pat Robertson.
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:36:32am |
re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist
And THIS is running for Senate.
Fortunately Michael Bennet has closed in to make it a tie in the polling. Ken Buck was slightly ahead for a time. The final outcome is still a toss-up.
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webevintage Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:37:49am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:38:10am |
He's also an anti-abortion absolutist, which fits handily with his opposition to all but a few methods of birth control.
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Kronocide Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:38:34am |
The newest Fauxrage incident, Obama's 'get in back of the bus' statement.
Clearly a mediocre analogy but not what the pundits are making it out to be.
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Nick Schroeder Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:38:58am |
Well, I early voted today at lunch, so my part is done.
Sorry Republicans. Wish you weren't a brain dead gaggle of morally bankrupt, washed-up obstructionist nut jobs, but because you are, I will now have to take a shower when I get home to wash off the stink of voting straight ticket Democrat.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:42:39am |
ultra pious, holier than thou tent show creeps....these people are dangerous but their time is waxing...buckle up
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APox Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:43:22am |
re: #11 BigPapa
I think he used a car as an analogy. And that they ran the car into a ditch and now they get to sit in the back.
To make this a racial thing requires a real stretch of the imagination. Apparently white men are really being ostracized, can't say I've felt much myself. :)
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webevintage Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:43:57am |
Please tell me that this GOP Candidate lost his eye is some kind of awesome Venture Brothers knife fight because he would make a great villain.
QUESTIONER: What would you do to make sure there are no further cuts are made to the food stamp benefits?
POPADITCH: What would I do to make sure no further cuts are made to food stamp benefits? Wow. Once again, I recognize there’s a difference between an entitlement and a promise. Now that would fall under the category of an entitlement. Now I believe in a safety net, but I certainly don’t think we need to make it too darn comfortable down there on that safety net. I’m not a cruel man, but I think we absolutely need to make these systems not as comfortable as they are now.
Food stamp money comes out to $21 a week...
But it could be that he and his henchmen supporters think that food stamps are more like a comfy $50 a week (because I know I could feed my family on 50 bucks a week/).
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
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Eclectic Infidel Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:44:19am |
The bad crazy stuff just keeps on rolling in with these conservatives. I just completed one blog post on Tim "I like to abuse women" Profitt and I think another is warranted after reading this story.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:44:33am |
re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist
And THIS is running for Senate.
And the house, all over the country. Weep for the republic. These cretins will tear down 200 years of hard fought progress in a few short ones if they can, and the drooling masses will cheer.
The rise of tyranny is always met with thunderous cheering by drooling fools.
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APox Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:45:26am |
Maybe he is trying to make way for sharia law. Better let the tea party know about him!
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:46:04am |
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
So he would have to refuse any oath to uphold the law or the constitution right? Which would disqualify him from taking office. Oh, wait the Oath is just a symbolic ritual.
Dripping///
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webevintage Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:46:51am |
re: #11 BigPapa
The newest Fauxrage incident, Obama's 'get in back of the bus' statement.
Clearly a mediocre analogy but not what the pundits are making it out to be.
Let me guess.
"OMG!!111!!! Obama is a racist, he wants white TeaGOP real Americans to ride in the BACK OF THE BUS."
Right?
Is this what has made RedState decide that they can say whatever racist thing comes to their minds now?
BTW folks, Stan Lee is on NPR doing an interview...right now.
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:47:01am |
It's time to stop pretending that Republicans have anything that could be called a "political ideology" beyond the simple motivation of "I want the stuff I want".
Anything they ever claim to believe in is jettisoned the moment it conflicts with "I want the stuff I want". Maybe this wasn't always the case, but it has been for a long time now.
They're opposed to a strong Federal government, unless it's a Republican one.
They're opposed to pork and deficits, unless it's for Republicans and deficits run up by Republicans.
They're opposed to welfare, unless it's for their corporate masters.
They're opposed to regulations, unless it concerns your private life.
They're opposed to adultery, unless they're the ones gettin' some.
They're patriotic, unless another country pays them not to be.
They're opposed to government health care, unless it's Medicare for the old white morons that vote for them.
Selfishness is their only organizing principle.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:47:22am |
I love how they can complain about creeping Sharia one minute, then turn around and advocate doing away with the separation of Church and State the next.
Fucking hypocrits.
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:48:43am |
re: #21 Charleston Chew
Selfishness is their only organizing principle.
To be fair, Ayn Rand did that selfishness was a virtue. These people are only following her Gospel. =P
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:49:10am |
I wonder if he also disagrees with government of the people, by the people, for the people.
That's not in the constitution, either.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:49:30am |
re: #24 Lidane
To be fair, Ayn Rand did that selfishness was a virtue. These people are only following her Gospel. =P
Rand was an addlepated nitwit.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:49:34am |
re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I love how they can complain about creeping Sharia one minute, then trun around and advocate doing away with the separation of Church and State the next.
Fucking hypocrits.
they're politicians....what would you expect?
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:49:52am |
re: #25 EmmmieG
I wonder if he also disagrees with government of the people, by the people, for the people.
That's not in the constitution, either.
Corporations are people too!
/
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SpaceJesus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:50:03am |
Well, James Madison (father of the Bill or Rights among other aspects of our constitution) disagrees with your disagreement Mr. Buck (R. CO.).
"The civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State."
-Madison on the intended result of the 1st Amendment on our republic
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:50:46am |
re: #10 negativ
So basically he's campaigning on a variation of that old political promise:
"A chicken in every (woman's) pot."
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Renaissance_Man Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:51:00am |
re: #21 Charleston Chew
It's time to stop pretending that Republicans have anything that could be called a "political ideology" beyond the simple motivation of "I want the stuff I want".
...
Selfishness is their only organizing principle.
Actually, I think that the only principle that the Conservative cult holds inviolate is hatred of 'liberals'. Anything else is negotiable.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:51:03am |
re: #29 SpaceJesus
Well, James Madison (father of the Bill or Rights among other aspects of our constitution) disagrees with your disagreement Mr. Buck (R. CO.).
"The civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State."
-Madison on the intended result of the 1st Amendment on our republic
Pffft, Madison! What does he know?! His wife makes those really good fruit pies though....
//
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:51:04am |
re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rand was an addlepated nitwit.
So are the idiots following her ideology. Unfortunately, it's become fashionable among the Tea Party morons to talk about "going Galt" and to basically parrot her words.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:52:12am |
Coming next from the GOP, a return to the principles of the divine rights of Kings.
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:52:59am |
re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Coming next from the GOP, a return to the principles of the divine rights of Kings.
Followed by a return to an appreciation of colonialism.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:53:06am |
re: #33 Lidane
So are the idiots following her ideology. Unfortunately, it's become fashionable among the Tea Party morons to talk about "going Galt" and to basically parrot her words.
If it means they leave society and we're forced to do without them, I'll buy them some fucking tickets.
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albusteve Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:53:09am |
re: #31 Renaissance_Man
Actually, I think that the only principle that the Conservative cult holds inviolate is hatred of 'liberals'. Anything else is negotiable.
slam dunk!....nice all inclusive generalization
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:53:34am |
re: #30 Charleston Chew
A bun in every oven.
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:54:00am |
re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Coming next from the GOP, a return to the principles of the divine rights of Kings.
It's not that much of a stretch for them these days. The anarcho-capitalist yahoos pretty much want us to return to feudalism with them in charge, so the divine right of kings can't be that far behind.
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Eclectic Infidel Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:54:19am |
re: #24 Lidane
To be fair, Ayn Rand did that selfishness was a virtue. These people are only following her Gospel. =P
I'd like to find another word to describe their behavior. I'm not a fan of Ayn Rand, heck, I'm probably a democratic socialist at heart, but to be selfish is simply to take care of oneself first. I think that's perfectly OK at the personal level, but on the scale of a society, it just doesn't translate.
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SpaceJesus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:54:31am |
the phrase, "republicans shouldn't be forced to retake history 101 and civics 101 in order to vote" doesn't appear in the constitution either, therefore it is ok to do this i guess.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:54:54am |
The next campaign ad-
Oath of Office
for Congressmen, Senators and the President of the United States as set forth in the US Constitution
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
(Run video clip as above)
"Ken Buck can not take this oath truthfully. Why would he even run?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:54:58am |
re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Coming next from the GOP, a return to the principles of the divine rights of Kings.
We actually had someone arguing for that once at LGF, not joking or trolling. He thinks it all started to go wrong when we abandoned the monarchy system. He was into fiefdoms.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:55:05am |
re: #40 eclectic infidel
"Fuck you I've got mine" seems to be the motto.
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mikefromArlington Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:55:15am |
So you got Buck, Angle, Miller, Paul, O'Donnell, Ayote? all for no abortions, even in the case of rape and incest and now this.
I think this tea party thing was just a way to sneak one by on the American public and mask the theocratic beliefs in a fiscal Halloween costume.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:56:06am |
Actually, what they really need to re-take, SJ, is not American civics, but the history of Europe. They could look up the following terms:
Huguenots, Bloody Mary, Inquisition...
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:56:23am |
re: #43 Charles
We actually had someone arguing for that once at LGF, not joking or trolling. He thinks it all started to go wrong when we abandoned the monarchy system. He was into fiefdoms.
Probably a big supporter of the Civil War South as well.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:56:33am |
re: #45 mikefromArlington
well duh. It's a double secret reversal of masking the fiscal policies under the guise of theocratic beliefs.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:56:50am |
So let's review the freedoms the GOP stands for:
Personal political freedoms: If you disagree with them, you will be shunned from any rally at best and stomped on by thugs at worst.
Personal private freedoms: If you are a woman who wants or needs an abortion, they will tell you that they know better about your body. If you are homosexual, they will savage you and deny you basic rights, employment and the ability to serve your nation.
Personal privacy continued: They are all for warrrantless wiretaps, arrest without due process and torture - provided they are doing it and especially to brown people non-Christians and anyone else they consider an enemy.
Intellectual freedom: They will do their level best to purge science they do not like and re-write history to suit their agendas and dogmas (just like any other totalitarian group in the modern age).
Your personal right to life: Denying AGW and then preventing any large scale action on it, will, not might, but will cause catastrophic and irreversable (over timescales of less than millennia) damage to our means of producing food, water supply and much of our habitable land. They are working hard to ensure the deaths of billions in an eco-collapse out of ignorance, greed and stupidity.
The much vaunted "free market" To a Republican, this means keeping large corporations in power despite their being replaced by better technology or petty moral concerns like sweatshop labor, outsourcing of American jobs, the economic pillage of the third world, and propping up horrible tyrants and thugs from places like Saudi Arabia to Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa.
There is not a single issue these thugs are right on, moral on, or civilized on. They are also in ascendancy in America.
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SpaceJesus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:56:58am |
re: #46 EmmmieG
true. they also need some science classes too.
ill get to work on drafting the federal statute after class.
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Eclectic Infidel Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:57:58am |
re: #45 mikefromArlington
So you got Buck, Angle, Miller, Paul, O'Donnell, Ayote? all for no abortions, even in the case of rape and incest and now this.
I think this tea party thing was just a way to sneak one by on the American public and mask the theocratic beliefs in a fiscal Halloween costume.
You may have a point there. Seriously. Promoting theocracy point blank is a nasty pill to swallow even for your average conservative Republican. A populist movement on the other hand...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:58:06am |
re: #46 EmmmieG
Just read "The Medieval Underworld" it is, in a nut shell, life in the middle ages before the rennaissance. It is really a good read and there are a lot of similarities between the status quo then and the way the righties are acting now when it comes to religion etc.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:58:22am |
re: #46 EmmmieG
Actually, what they really need to re-take, SJ, is not American civics, but the history of Europe. They could look up the following terms:
Huguenots, Bloody Mary, Inquisition...
I can see it now. The House Commitee on Heresy and Immorality.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:00:03pm |
re: #15 webevintage
Please tell me that this GOP Candidate lost his eye is some kind of awesome Venture Brothers knife fight because he would make a great villain.
Food stamp money comes out to $21 a week...
But it could be that he and hishenchmensupporters think that food stamps are more like a comfy $50 a week (because I know I could feed my family on 50 bucks a week/).
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
And catsup's a vegetable. The heartlessness of these oh so Christian GOPer's towards the poor, is a meme that goes back a very long time.
That's OK, they are re-writing Jesus to make him a GOP douchebag too.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:00:35pm |
re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I can see it now. The House Commitee on Heresy and Immorality.
There was a real star chamber. But that was political, I believe, not religious.
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Kronocide Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:00:58pm |
re: #14 APox
I think he used a car as an analogy. And that they ran the car into a ditch and now they get to sit in the back.
To make this a racial thing requires a real stretch of the imagination. Apparently white men are really being ostracized, can't say I've felt much myself. :)
Exactly, I got his analogy. It's a desperate stretch to assume it's a taunt regarding the Rosa Parks era.
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Winny Spencer Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:01:12pm |
re: #24 Lidane
At least Ayn never tried to square her ideology with Christianity, unlike some. She understood that they were mutually exclusive.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:01:43pm |
re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote
And catsup's a vegetable. The heartlessness of these oh so Christian GOPer's towards the poor, is a meme that goes back a very long time.
That's OK, they are re-writing Jesus to make him a GOP douchebag too.
The best thing about post-Rapture Earth will be looking around and seeing so many of these assholes still around wondering why they didn't get picked.
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:02:35pm |
re: #58 Winny Spencer
At least Ayn never tried to square her ideology with Christianity, unlike some. She understood that they were mutually exclusive.
True. She was pretty blunt about the fact that Objectivism and religion didn't square at all.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:02:38pm |
re: #57 BigPapa
He threw them under the bus by making them go to the back of it.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:03:10pm |
re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Coming next from the GOP, a return to the principles of the divine rights of Kings.
You stole my quip! I demand a $1.00 usage fee ;)
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:03:31pm |
re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I can see it now. The House Commitee on Heresy and Immorality.
NASA becomes the NFCGA - National Flying Chariot and Geocentrism Administration - N'fcga.
/
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:04:06pm |
re: #56 EmmmieG
There was a real star chamber. But that was political, I believe, not religious.
Correct. It was in Stuart England.
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:04:31pm |
re: #62 LudwigVanQuixote
You stole my quip! I demand a $1.00 usage fee ;)
Watch out Kragar doesn't charge you $1.50 for advertising your quip.
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:05:16pm |
re: #63 Gus 802
NASA becomes the NFCGA - National Flying Chariot and Geocentrism Administration - N'fcga.
/
USGS, U.S. Geological Survey, would become the USNFS - U.S. Noah Flood Survey.
/
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chaosdrew Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:05:32pm |
I don't get any of this. What does Ken Buck think is being denied him by living in a country that seeks to separate Church from State? What can't he do that removing that concept will then allow him to do?
And don't any of the Tea-Party-supporting Libertarians understand who they are getting in bed with?
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:05:38pm |
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:05:39pm |
re: #65 b_sharp
Watch out Kragar doesn't charge you $1.50 for advertising your quip.
Pfft. I'll charge $2.50 to do a market analysis of his quip. ;)
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:05:41pm |
re: #66 Gus 802
USGS, U.S. Geological Survey, would become the USNFS - U.S. Noah Flood Survey.
/
Line of the day.
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APox Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:06:25pm |
Interesting story about Aziz, who is set for execution in Iraq. It's their country, but I have a hard time with actually killing this man. Interesting read on Iraq's WMDs, stating that Sadaam was unclear more as a deterrent to Iran (I think they were well over one million casualties in their 8 year war) rather than to perturb the US.
[Link: m.guardian.co.uk...]
Sorry the link is odd, from the ol iPhone as always.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:06:27pm |
re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The best thing about post-Rapture Earth will be looking around and seeing so many of these assholes still around wondering why they didn't get picked.
Well that would apply if they actually believed in the teachings of Jesus. Of course they do not.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:06:36pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:06:50pm |
We've gone from Christine O'Donnell who denied there was such thing of sepearation of church and state in the Constituion to Ken Buck who acknowledges its existence but disagrees with it. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this dude? To me, the wonderful thing about seperation of church and state is that it goes both ways. A particular church cannot force its will on the government and the government likewise can't oppress people because they're a certain religion. It's why many of my ancestors came to this country in the first place really and I know my family's story is far from unique either. I just love that the republicans like to say shit like being tolerant of Muslims will lead to Sharia law. Not that I think Sharia will happen but it's more likely if you start to blur the seperation of church and state. It's candidates like Buck despite my problems with the Democrats that I hope they make a big comeback and repudidate this extreme bullshit.
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Michael McBacon Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:06:58pm |
re: #50 LudwigVanQuixote
Absolutely. And it's interesting how many of these "small government" Paleo-Conservative/Libertarian advocates don't mind the idea of large corporations becoming the government.
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Charleston Chew Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:07:43pm |
re: #40 eclectic infidel
Perhaps the real problem is short term selfishness vs. long term selfishness. Long term selfishness is fine. in my opinion, but few people practice it.
Long term selfishness like environmental regulation. I'm an environmentalist in a purely selfish way: I don't want to live in a f-ed up hellhole.
Or the economic well-being of my fellow citizens: the more money they have, the more money I can get from them for the stuff I'm selling.
I remember some tv show when I was a kid about a genie who grants wishes and so a guy wishes for all the money in the world. Of course the catch is, (and there's always a catch with genies) that he can never buy anything with it because then he wouldn't have all the money in the world. To me, that's a Republican. They don't understand that "no man is an island".
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:08:49pm |
re: #66 Gus 802
Line of the day- and that is saying something. LVQ is in fine form. I actually had to agree with almost and entire comment of his (#50).
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Winny Spencer Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:09:58pm |
re: #75 UNIXon
Nor do they mind intruding on a woman's right to her own body.
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:10:21pm |
re: #77 researchok
Line of the day- and that is saying something. LVQ is in fine form. I actually had to agree with almost and entire comment of his (#50).
I bet that gave you a rash.
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:10:42pm |
re: #77 researchok
Line of the day- and that is saying something. LVQ is in fine form. I actually had to agree with almost and entire comment of his (#50).
We are the Borg.
/
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:10:45pm |
re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I can see it now. The House Commitee on Heresy and Immorality.
The "Inquisition" works better since "NO ONE expects the House Committe on Heresy and Immorality!" just doesn't have the same ring to it...
;)
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Interesting Times Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:11:17pm |
re: #50 LudwigVanQuixote
There is not a single issue these thugs are right on, moral on, or civilized on. They are also in ascendancy in America.
"There is a special providence that watches over children, drunks, and the United States of America."
:(
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:11:29pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:11:32pm |
He's also an anti-abortion absolutist, which fits handily with his opposition to all but a few methods of birth control.re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I can see it now. The House Commitee on Heresy and Immorality.
And no Frank Zappa.
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:12:00pm |
re: #75 UNIXon
Absolutely. And it's interesting how many of these "small government" Paleo-Conservative/Libertarian advocates don't mind the idea of large corporations becoming the government.
That's because they worship at the altar of Supply Side Jesus. It's an article of faith that free markets will magically solve every problem.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:12:00pm |
re: #43 Charles
We actually had someone arguing for that once at LGF, not joking or trolling. He thinks it all started to go wrong when we abandoned the monarchy system. He was into fiefdoms.
Funny fact about that...
I actually am descended from a very important rabbi, who, if you believe the stories, was descended from David. The David, king of Israel.
And what does my royal blood - from the royal line that all others in the west were modeled on, make me in this day and age? If you believe the NT it makes Jesus a cousin. It should be worth something! My royalty is certainly more vaunted than say being some inbred Germans on the throne of England!
Yet, what it means is that I am just another guy, who works hard, lives in America and is judged by what he has done - not who his ancestor 3000 years ago was.
And that is how it should be.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:12:11pm |
re: #63 Gus 802
NASA becomes the NFCGA - National Flying Chariot and Geocentrism Administration - N'fcga.
/
Too Lovecraftian.
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webevintage Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:12:31pm |
Wonkette on the "head stomper" and his "bad back":
Back pain! The poor fellow. Teabaggers are very angry about the politics, but it’s hard for them to get out of their scooters and do something extreme like a 1960s radical would. So young libruls have to be held down on the ground for it to be a fair fight with these panting world-hating cretins.
[Link: wonkette.com...]
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:13:09pm |
re: #81 oaktree
The "Inquisition" works better since "NO ONE expects the House Committe on Heresy and Immorality!" just doesn't have the same ring to it...
;)
"Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of the United States Muslim?"
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:14:16pm |
re: #82 publicityStunted
"There is a special providence that watches over children, drunks, and
the United States of America.":(
Yes, Simply put, if we elect these thugs, we really will not be able to claim the consequences are things we didn't have coming.
I mean think about their mentality - always someone else's fault, ignorant, arrogant, aggressive and stupid - with control of the world's most powerful military.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:15:01pm |
re: #89 Gus 802
"Are you now or have you ever been a
member of the Communist Party of the United StatesMuslim?"
Have you ever read or professed to having read any religious text other than the King James Bible?
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:15:55pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Have you ever read or professed to having read any religious text other than the King James Bible?
Can you walk and chew gum at the same time.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:16:12pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Do you now or have you ever had any homosexual thoughts?
Do you now or have you ever had any impure thoughts?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:16:13pm |
We've been hearing the revisionists say the Crusades weren't so bad. I'm eagerly awaiting apologists for the Inquistion and also the Penal Laws in Ireland.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:16:45pm |
I'm confused by all this now... Is "In God We Trust" on all the money, or is "In Money We Trust" tattooed on God?
:-/
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theheat Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:17:11pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Have you ever read
or professed to having readanything beyond religious textother than the King James Bible?
I don't think reading one book in your life makes you smarter.
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Yashmak Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:17:28pm |
It's almost like the movie "Agora" was written with the current US political climate in mind. The similarities are astounding. . .let's hope we avoid Agora's end result.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:17:33pm |
re: #94 HappyWarrior
We've been hearing the revisionists say the Crusades weren't so bad. I'm eagerly awaiting apologists for the Inquistion and also the Penal Laws in Ireland.
They both kept Sharia Law out of Europe. Now that they're gone it's creeping in and taking over!
//
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:18:00pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Have you ever read or professed to having read any religious text other than the King James Bible?
"Are you now or have you ever been a member of Little Green Footballs?"
//
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:18:07pm |
re: #93 Dreggas
Do you now or have you ever had any homosexual thoughts?
Do you now or have you ever had any impure thoughts?
I would plead the fifth, but I expect that would no longer be an option once they get done rewriting the Constitution.
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:18:07pm |
re: #93 Dreggas
Do you now or have you ever had any homosexual thoughts?
Do you now or have you ever had any impure thoughts?
Do you now or have you ever had any impure thoughts?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:18:22pm |
re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Too Lovecraftian.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Sarah Palin is the whore of Cthulu.
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:19:27pm |
re: #102 LudwigVanQuixote
I have said it before and I will say it again. Sarah Palin is the whore of Cthulu.
Not the whore of gnome?
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:19:31pm |
re: #102 LudwigVanQuixote
I have said it before and I will say it again. Sarah Palin is the whore of Cthulu.
Cthulu wouldn't touch her with a 10 meter tentacle.
Nyarlethotep on the other hand...
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:19:31pm |
re: #85 Lidane
That's because they worship at the altar of Supply Side Jesus. It's an article of faith that free markets will magically solve every problem.
ONly they believe in propping up large corporate trusts that kill the free market. If we had an actual free market, oil and coal would have gone the way of the buggy whip.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:19:52pm |
re: #71 APox
Interesting story about Aziz, who is set for execution in Iraq. It's their country, but I have a hard time with actually killing this man. Interesting read on Iraq's WMDs, stating that Sadaam was unclear more as a deterrent to Iran (I think they were well over one million casualties in their 8 year war) rather than to perturb the US.
[Link: m.guardian.co.uk...]Sorry the link is odd, from the ol iPhone as always.
Goes way beyond that. Many Iraqis remember trying to identify their loved ones from shreds of clothing and rotted flesh in Saddam's mass graves. Aziz is very strongly associated with Saddam as far as Iraqis are concerned (that's my understanding anyway).
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:20:14pm |
I think that this fellow's take is that no particular church should be sanctioned, but Christianity is America's "default setting religion"
There is a big difference betwwen banning religious expression in politics and public life and official sanctioning of any particular religion.
The radical athiests of the 60's had trouble with that concept, as do the modern "Christian Nation" apoligists.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:20:27pm |
re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Cthulu wouldn't touch her with a 10 meter tentacle.
Nyarlethotep on the other hand...
But he's trapped in the Pentagon by Johnny Dillinger, who died for you!
Someone please get the reference!
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:20:43pm |
re: #101 b_sharp
Do you now or have you ever had any
impurethoughts?
That might require the Federal Electronic Genital Response Team. Approved for nationwide testing of all American citizens by an act of Congress, 2015.
//
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HappyWarrior Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:20:47pm |
re: #98 oaktree
They both kept Sharia Law out of Europe. Now that they're gone it's creeping in and taking over!
//
Scary part is I can see someone using that kind of logic. The apologists for the Crusades really bother me especially that many who do it do it in the guise of being "pro Israel." It's like they forget that the Crusaders were brutal to the native Jewish populations they encountered in the Holy Lands.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:21:31pm |
re: #67 chaosdrew
And don't any of the Tea-Party-supporting Libertarians understand who they are getting in bed with?
I think the tea party supporting Libertarians would like this guy, unless you know some tea party supporting Libertarians I haven't heard of.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:21:37pm |
re: #110 HappyWarrior
Scary part is I can see someone using that kind of logic. The apologists for the Crusades really bother me especially that many who do it do it in the guise of being "pro Israel." It's like they forget that the Crusaders were brutal to the native Jewish populations they encountered in the Holy Lands.
I wish more than anything else, these thugs would not presume to speak for Israel. We have enough problems.
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:21:50pm |
re: #108 LudwigVanQuixote
But he's trapped in the Pentagon by Johnny Dillinger, who died for you!
Someone please get the reference!
I don't get it.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:21:52pm |
re: #108 LudwigVanQuixote
But he's trapped in the Pentagon by Johnny Dillinger, who died for you!
Someone please get the reference!
Illuminatus?
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:22:18pm |
re: #112 LudwigVanQuixote
I wish more than anything else, these thugs would not presume to speak for Israel. We have enough problems.
No joke.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:22:32pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
CB 2000's and chastity belts for all!
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:23:54pm |
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Winny Spencer Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:23:57pm |
re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I would plead the fifth, but I expect that would no longer be an option once they get done rewriting the Constitution.
That would be the time to use some "enhanced interrogation techniques".
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:24:14pm |
re: #112 LudwigVanQuixote
I wish more than anything else, these thugs would not presume to speak for Israel. We have enough problems.
That may prove to be a huge issue down the line.
Political expediency has a long history of sacrificial lambs.
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nines09 Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:24:22pm |
Ask Mr Buck which "church" should be less "separate". I'll bet he has one in mind. Small detail. Then we can have that religious war we missed because our founding fathers were not anywhere near as stupid as Mr Buck.
People like Mr Buck would trash the Constitution he would swear to uphold for his own beliefs.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:25:00pm |
re: #110 HappyWarrior
Scary part is I can see someone using that kind of logic. The apologists for the Crusades really bother me especially that many who do it do it in the guise of being "pro Israel." It's like they forget that the Crusaders were brutal to the native Jewish populations they encountered in the Holy Lands.
Actually, I wish more than anything else, for concerted, sensible and effective action on AGW. But wishing these thugs whom I despise and who scoff at everything that Israel and her heritage stands for, would shut up, is near the top.
They disgrace and debauch my heritage. They are rashot in the most direct sense of the word. We have enough problems without friends like those, who desperately want us in our homeland so we can all convert or be damned when their twisted view of the end times comes - all while doing their best to oppose every major teaching we have.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:25:50pm |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:25:56pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
to me that's not scary. Then again I am not normal.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:26:40pm |
re: #21 Charleston Chew
It's time to stop pretending that Republicans have anything that could be called a "political ideology" beyond the simple motivation of "I want the stuff I want".
Anything they ever claim to believe in is jettisoned the moment it conflicts with "I want the stuff I want". Maybe this wasn't always the case, but it has been for a long time now.
They're opposed to a strong Federal government, unless it's a Republican one.
They're opposed to pork and deficits, unless it's for Republicans and deficits run up by Republicans.
They're opposed to welfare, unless it's for their corporate masters.
They're opposed to regulations, unless it concerns your private life.
They're opposed to adultery, unless they're the ones gettin' some.
They're patriotic, unless another country pays them not to be.
They're opposed to government health care, unless it's Medicare for the old white morons that vote for them.
Selfishness is their only organizing principle.
You mind if I steal this?
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:26:45pm |
re: #120 Winny Spencer
That would be the time to use some "enhanced interrogation techniques".
You get more with a kind word and an excruciator than with just a kind word.
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Ben Jephazi Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:27:08pm |
re: #108 LudwigVanQuixote
Upding for the Illuminatus reference.
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lawhawk Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:27:14pm |
So, on the one hand you have people claiming that Muslims want to impose Sharia and therefore invoke the 1st Amendment to prevent such actions.
Then, some of these same folks turn around and claim that the 1st Amendment doesn't really mean separation of church and state.
That's a textbook example of cognitive dissonance.
Buck wants to run up against more than 100 years of jurisprudence explicitly preserving separation of church and state, and more than 200 years since Jefferson utilized the term in his writings in defense of the 1st Amendment and religious freedom.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Government actions granting some religious group benefits over those of other religious groups gives a imprimatur of legitimacy on those groups the government favors. That's why we hold to a separation of church and state (and why the S.Ct. has done so repeatedly).
It's to protect minorities against a majority (and one of the better ideas enshrined in the Constitution).
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:28:01pm |
re: #121 researchok
That may prove to be a huge issue down the line.
Political expediency has a long history of sacrificial lambs.
It is already a huge issue. The amount of anti-Israel bias in the world increased because of W - who turned out to be no more a friend of Israel than Clinton really. As to the Ohhh so Christian GOP's support of us, I don't trust it further than I can spit. No one, who thinks you need to change your faith and heritage or be damned to eternal suffering is your friend.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:28:22pm |
re: #129 lawhawk
So, on the one hand you have people claiming that Muslims want to impose Sharia and therefore invoke the 1st Amendment to prevent such actions.
Then, some of these same folks turn around and claim that the 1st Amendment doesn't really mean separation of church and state.
That's a textbook example of cognitive dissonance.
Um...it's also a textbook example of hypocrisy.
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:28:24pm |
Increased CO2 will only lead to the beneficial increase of plant life on Earth. This is because CO2 is essentially plant food. Thus, we will see an increase of production for the ketchup farmers in my district.
Sen. Robert H. Ballzack, (R-TX) 2015
//
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:28:41pm |
I see he is also gearing up for the annual War on Christmas.
Yes, Christmas is a Christian holiday, but over time it has become part of the secular tradition, and at the same time it is a holiday with pagan roots that predate Christianity.
Only dense, uneducated, and insecure people get agitated about how it is celebrated: Christians celebrate the birth of their savior, most of the rest of us just celebrate Peace on Earth and Good Will towards Mankind, which is a sentiment that few can disagree with.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:28:53pm |
re: #123 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, I wish more than anything else, for concerted, sensible and effective action on AGW. But wishing these thugs whom I despise and who scoff at everything that Israel and her heritage stands for, would shut up, is near the top.
They disgrace and debauch my heritage. They are rashot in the most direct sense of the word. We have enough problems without friends like those, who desperately want us in our homeland so we can all convert or be damned when their twisted view of the end times comes - all while doing their best to oppose every major teaching we have.
Yeah, man that's what pisses me off about the "Pro Israel" Christians I know. They don't support Israel's right to exist because it's a stable democracy surrounded by dictatorships or that Israel doesn't have backass backwards policies towards women, gays, and others but becuase of hte rapture. It offends me.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:28:56pm |
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:29:04pm |
re: #123 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, I wish more than anything else, for concerted, sensible and effective action on AGW. But wishing these thugs whom I despise and who scoff at everything that Israel and her heritage stands for, would shut up, is near the top.
They disgrace and debauch my heritage. They are rashot in the most direct sense of the word. We have enough problems without friends like those, who desperately want us in our homeland so we can all convert or be damned when their twisted view of the end times comes - all while doing their best to oppose every major teaching we have.
Even at the 50% level, the potential for long term damage has to be a cautionary note.
If and when a Pat Robertson type says God told him to 'pressure' the Israelis (read: Jews), all hell will break loose.
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Lidane Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:29:28pm |
re: #129 lawhawk
So, on the one hand you have people claiming that Muslims want to impose Sharia and therefore invoke the 1st Amendment to prevent such actions.
Then, some of these same folks turn around and claim that the 1st Amendment doesn't really mean separation of church and state.
That's a textbook example of cognitive dissonance.
Welcome to the 2010 Republican Party. Would you like some tea?
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b_Snark Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:30:02pm |
re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Once again my encyclopedic knowledge of useless errata wins...something.
You win a gently used CB 2000.
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SteelGHAZI Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:30:24pm |
re: #67 chaosdrew
Very easy to answer: He isn't allowed to push his religion on others nor pass laws banning ones he doesn't like.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:30:56pm |
re: #94 HappyWarrior
We've been hearing the revisionists say the Crusades weren't so bad. I'm eagerly awaiting apologists for the Inquistion and also the Penal Laws in Ireland.
Right now they are busy denying the Holocaust and the evils of American slavery. Give them time. They'll get there. There is an awful lot of history to re-write for them.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:31:44pm |
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:31:54pm |
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Gus Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:31:55pm |
re: #140 LudwigVanQuixote
Right now they are busy denying the Holocaust and the evils of American slavery. Give them time. They'll get there. There is an awful lot of history to re-write for them.
Televised abortions.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:32:49pm |
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Ben Jephazi Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:32:59pm |
re: #140 LudwigVanQuixote
Right now they are busy denying the Holocaust and the evils of American slavery. Give them time. They'll get there. There is an awful lot of history to re-write for them.
And then there is the list of things they don't have to bother rewriting because they've been largely forgotten, like the Belgian Congo.
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:34:58pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:36:03pm |
re: #145 3eff Jeff
And then there is the list of things they don't have to bother rewriting because they've been largely forgotten, like the Belgian Congo.
Well said.
And they have already rewritten labor history to the point where union is a dirty word, and there is no mention of things like the Triangle fire, of company scrip of child labor and of disfigurement and death in the workplace.
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Kragar Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:36:06pm |
BTW, folks, do not search for CB 2000 from work.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:36:30pm |
re: #146 researchok
I'm not so sure of that, in the literal sense. I do believe we are getting closer to that point, however.
Good reference. I didn't mean it like that - but well said.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:37:02pm |
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:38:09pm |
re: #148 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
BTW, folks, do not search for CB 2000 from work.
I did...but then I work at home. However I'm blocking that site in my host file just to make sure my wife never sees it. (She'll never need it, I'm exclusively promiscuous with her)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:39:45pm |
re: #133 ralphieboy
I see he is also gearing up for the annual War on Christmas.
Yes, Christmas is a Christian holiday, but over time it has become part of the secular tradition, and at the same time it is a holiday with pagan roots that predate Christianity.
Only dense, uneducated, and insecure people get agitated about how it is celebrated: Christians celebrate the birth of their savior, most of the rest of us just celebrate Peace on Earth and Good Will towards Mankind, which is a sentiment that few can disagree with.
I celebrate the annual return of eggnog latte' to the local Starbucks. Almost as important as the sun returning and the nights getting shorter again...
;)
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researchok Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:40:31pm |
re: #149 LudwigVanQuixote
Good reference. I didn't mean it like that - but well said.
Your point is well taken.
Evolution can be predicted. Certainly that is true of political evolution.
The irony is that both the hard left and hard right- without real and substantive ideological change- will come to an escalating anti Israel stance.
They have/will each find their own 'pot of gold'- bought and paid for by Israel.
There is a whole treatise which needs to be written on that irony.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:41:33pm |
re: #152 oaktree
I celebrate the annual return of eggnog latte' to the local Starbucks. Almost as important as the sun returning and the nights getting shorter again...
;)
Which was the original occasion for the Midwinter Celebration. The Birth of Christ stuff was glommed onto it later.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:42:06pm |
re: #147 LudwigVanQuixote
Well said.
And they have already rewritten labor history to the point where union is a dirty word, and there is no mention of things like the Triangle fire, of company scrip of child labor and of disfigurement and death in the workplace.
And Matewan is not a Japanese anime series about giant robots fighting...
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:42:10pm |
re: #138 b_sharp
You win a gently used CB 2000.
Wow, the CB 6000 actually comes in camouflage ... so to speak.
I learn something new every day.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Wed, Oct 27, 2010 12:45:48pm |
re: #154 ralphieboy
Which was the original occasion for the Midwinter Celebration. The Birth of Christ stuff was glommed onto it later.
The early spreaders of Christianity into Europe were not fools. They did a very good job subverting various pagan festivals/holidays by grafting Christian events and symbols onto them. An interesting method to "spread the word" without totally disrupting the local cultural traditions.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Oct 27, 2010 1:07:34pm |
re: #86 LudwigVanQuixote
Funny fact about that...
I actually am descended from a very important rabbi, who, if you believe the stories, was descended from David. The David, king of Israel.
And what does my royal blood - from the royal line that all others in the west were modeled on, make me in this day and age? If you believe the NT it makes Jesus a cousin. It should be worth something! My royalty is certainly more vaunted than say being some inbred Germans on the throne of England!
Yet, what it means is that I am just another guy, who works hard, lives in America and is judged by what he has done - not who his ancestor 3000 years ago was.
And that is how it should be.
You could be Moshiach. Are you prepared?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Oct 27, 2010 1:54:13pm |
re: #134 HappyWarrior
Yeah, man that's what pisses me off about the "Pro Israel" Christians I know. They don't support Israel's right to exist because it's a stable democracy surrounded by dictatorships or that Israel doesn't have backass backwards policies towards women, gays, and others but becuase of hte rapture. It offends me.
This pro-Israel Christian supports Israel because it's a stable democracy, etc., and NOT because of the rapture. I know many like myself. It sounds like you need to make some new Christian friends.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Oct 27, 2010 2:05:04pm |
re: #159 reine.de.tout
This pro-Israel Christian supports Israel because it's a stable democracy, etc., and NOT because of the rapture. I know many like myself. It sounds like you need to make some new Christian friends.
Amen. Seriously, Amen.
(Just because one is a Christian does not mean that you have to accept the theology of the last days invented in the 1800's. )
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