Aerial Photos Show 215,000 Attended Stewart-Colbert Rally

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Based on aerial photos taken by airphotoslive.com, the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear attracted approximately 215,000 people, more than twice as many as Glenn Beck’s 9/12 religious right rally.

An estimated 215,000 people attended a rally organized by Comedy Central talk show hosts Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert Saturday in Washington, according to a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS News.

The company airphotoslive.com based the attendance at the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” on aerial pictures it took over the rally, which took place on the Mall in Washington. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 10 percent.

CBS News also commissioned airphotoslive.com to do a crowd estimate of Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally in August. That rally was estimated to have attracted 87,000 people. Amid criticism from conservatives that the estimate was low, CBS News detailed the methodology behind it here.

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210 comments
1 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:12:13pm

Did birds fly overhead too?

2 Randall Gross  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:12:18pm

.... only enough porta potties for 150 k -- no wonder so many were standing in line.

3 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:12:41pm

And a sudden hush fell over the room.

4 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:15:25pm

The comments at that post are hilarious. Glenn Beck fans are squealing like stuck pigs about librul media bias and photo cropping.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:15:39pm

Memo to Stalkers: Spin this set of facts, if you can. Turns out Charles is right again. Maybe its time to admit he has better sources than you.

6 Inconsequential Consequence  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:15:58pm

Although comparing numbers between political events feels good when the numbers are on your side, and it does give some indication of how many politically committed people are willing to spend the money and time to attend, the comparison really is irrelevant where it matters.

They aren't an indicator of voting results.

7 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:16:34pm

More than I would have guessed.
Glad to have a good "guestimate"!

8 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:17:07pm

Seriously though, good for them. I think it's great that it was organized by Comedy Central and generated more people than Beck's rally.

9 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:18:57pm

Ain't going to change shit on Tuesday... but it feels good.

10 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:19:27pm

Typical liburl medeeya, showing favoritism for a rally that was all about...

Wait, what was the political message of this rally?
/

11 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:19:54pm

Notice something else about the signs? NO TYPOS!

12 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:20:20pm

re: #10 Slumbering Behemoth

Typical liburl medeeya, showing favoritism for a rally that was all about...

Wait, what was the political message of this rally?
/

Be nice and reasonable?

I'm still reeling at the insanity of such a message

13 William  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:20:50pm

It's funny that Jon Leibowitz, whose ratings were lower than "Beavis and Butthead" on MTV, has become the pied piper of the Michael Moore Party.

So much confusing science, I'm forced to stick with "dumb" guys Victor Davis Hanson and Charles Krauthammer.

14 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:20:51pm

re: #9 Walter L. Newton

Ain't going to change shit on Tuesday... but it feels good.

Yep. After Tuesday Obama's still the president. He can veto whatever the GOP passes in the House. That is if it passes the Dem controlled Senate. Yes indeed.

15 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:21:36pm

billions and billions

16 Linden Arden  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:21:48pm

That reflecting pool at the Beckerhead Rally consumes a lot of prime center cut real estate where that same area was packed in today.

Can't wait to hear how Beck spins this.

My final take - Stewart had the O'Jays and Father Sarducci - proving that us crazy libs have better taste than he does in the earthly and spiritual.

17 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:22:26pm

re: #11 eclectic infidel

Notice something else about the signs? NO TYPOS!

No kidding...

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Most of those pouring into the Mall Saturday appeared to be younger than 35, and the signs they carried showed a decidedly left-wing bent: "I hope this isn't a trap," "I masturbate to Christine O'Donnell," "Communism was a red herring."

[Link: www.politico.com...]

18 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:22:31pm

Red Simpson - Diesel smoke

Youtube Video

Obama's still driving the truck.

19 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:23:41pm

re: #14 Gus 802

Yep. After Tuesday Obama's still the president. He can veto whatever the GOP passes in the House. That is if it passes the Dem controlled Senate. Yes indeed.

BO is doomed....his ridiculous mandate is going down in flames...he is being rejected by more than half of the voters, duh?

20 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:24:26pm

re: #16 Linden Arden

That reflecting pool at the Beckerhead Rally consumes a lot of prime center cut real estate where that same area was packed in today.

Can't wait to hear how Beck spins this.

Easy: Soros.....SEIU....buses.....homeless paid in cigarettes.

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:24:51pm

re: #13 William

asdfhasfjalfajrf.

22 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:25:00pm

re: #13 William

It's funny that Jon Leibowitz, whose ratings were lower than "Beavis and Butthead" on MTV, has become the pied piper of the Michael Moore Party.

So much confusing science, I'm forced to stick with "dumb" guys Victor Davis Hanson and Charles Krauthammer.

Leibowitz? And it may surprise you to know that not all Democrats like Michael Moore.

If I had to follow someone's rantings, I'd rather it be Jon Stewart than Glenn Beck.

23 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:25:12pm

re: #19 albusteve

BO is doomed...his ridiculous mandate is going down in flames...he is being rejected by more than half of the voters, duh?

Ouch. Yeah. But knowing Obama I'm sure he'll come up with something.

24 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:25:14pm

re: #14 Gus 802

Yep. After Tuesday Obama's still the president. He can veto whatever the GOP passes in the House. That is if it passes the Dem controlled Senate. Yes indeed.

Right...

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic voters are closely divided over whether President Barack Obama should be challenged within the party for a second term in 2012, an Associated Press-Knowledge Networks Poll finds.

That glum assessment carries over into the nation at large, which is similarly divided over whether Obama should be a one-term president.

Poll: Dems split over handing Obama '12 nomination

[Link: www.wtop.com...]

25 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:26:07pm

re: #23 Gus 802

Ouch. Yeah. But knowing Obama I'm sure he'll come up with something.

two words...
Tonight Show

26 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:07pm

Rule Number Two...

eat your own

27 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:09pm

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Right...

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic voters are closely divided over whether President Barack Obama should be challenged within the party for a second term in 2012, an Associated Press-Knowledge Networks Poll finds.

That glum assessment carries over into the nation at large, which is similarly divided over whether Obama should be a one-term president.

Poll: Dems split over handing Obama '12 nomination

[Link: www.wtop.com...]

The Republicans will get the House. The Dems will still control the Senate. The Senate overrules the House.

28 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:20pm

re: #19 albusteve

BO is doomed...his ridiculous mandate is going down in flames...he is being rejected by more than half of the voters, duh?

That's what they said in 2008.

29 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:33pm

re: #22 marjoriemoon

I innovate. I follow the bleat of my own rants.
/

30 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:52pm

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

I innovate. I follow the bleat of my own rants.
/

Yours made more sense.

31 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:52pm

Woot!

32 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:28:07pm

re: #27 Gus 802

The Republicans will get the House. The Dems will still control the Senate. The Senate overrules the House.

General Palin will storm the palisades....give up

33 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:28:29pm

re: #32 albusteve

General Palin will storm the palisades...give up

:)

34 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:28:51pm

re: #28 marjoriemoon

That's what they said in 2008.

snooze away dear person

35 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:29:38pm

re: #34 albusteve

snooze away dear person

Not me, baby. My voting finger is all itchy.

36 Inconsequential Consequence  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:29:50pm

re: #32 albusteve

General Palin will storm the palisades...give up

Nice way of saying general confusion.

37 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:30:07pm

Don't get too excited. Obama will call the shots for the next two years. Good chance he'll be reelected if the GOP puts a Palin type against him in 2012.

38 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:30:14pm

re: #32 albusteve

Now you're just doing this for your own amusement.

/I love you, Steve. And the more I love you, the more I must fuck with you.

39 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:30:35pm

Speaking of election. I'm happy to report that I appear to be surrounded by a whole bunch of relatively sane people. Small potatoes compared to the big election this week but it still has a direct affect on my day to day life. Municipal elections were held this week and the wonderful electorate decided that enough was enough and turfed the entire town council. It was a sound turfing too. This past town council were utter idiots that spent all their time fighting with each other to the point where the town lost out on some major development (which we need) because the companies didn't want to deal with the putzes. It wasn't political fighting either, no leftie right debate just pure personal vendetta crap that would be hilarious if it didn't have such real consequences to area.

I was surprised when I read the results because I had fallen into some cynicism about the whole thing. It restored my faith in my fellow humans (and neighbors). Plus the guy I wanted to be mayor got in which was also unexpected. The assumed front runner did sit on council before and I expect that was enough for people to vote for the other guy.

I'm usually wary about a totally virgin council but this case is an exception. I'm not sure how it could be worse then it was.

40 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:31:28pm

re: #13 William

It's funny that Jon Leibowitz, whose ratings were lower than "Beavis and Butthead" on MTV, has become the pied piper of the Michael Moore Party.

Now wait just a minute here...are you trying to say JON STEWART IS A JEW?!?!?!?!?!

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41 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:32:30pm

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Now you're just doing this for your own amusement.

/I love you, Steve. And the more I love you, the more I must fuck with you.

I find it amusing too.

42 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:32:32pm

re: #36 b_sharp

Nice way of saying general confusion.

just stating the obvious

43 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:32:50pm

re: #22 marjoriemoon

Leibowitz? And it may surprise you to know that not all Democrats like Michael Moore.

If I had to follow someone's rantings, I'd rather it be Jon Stewart than Glenn Beck.

If anything this event was thumbing its nose at Michael Moore type shenanigans.

44 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:32:58pm

Don't forget that the primary objective of the GOP after Tuesday is to go after homosexuals, bring back prayer in schools, creationism, and trying to get Obama impeached. It should prove interesting. Especially in how they try to effect the global economy from South Carolina.

45 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:03pm

Is Jon Stewart Jewish?

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:24pm

re: #11 eclectic infidel

Notice something else about the signs? NO TYPOS!

I'm disapointed, ackshully.

47 Linden Arden  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:42pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel

Easy: Soros...SEIU...buses...homeless paid in cigarettes.

Isn't it odd how a libertine (drug legal, immigrant friendly) Capitalist ($13 billion, two great books on capitalism, seed money for micro loans) guy like Soros pisses off the "Liberty Loving" Beckerheads?

Yet they don't attack Buffett so much.

Soros, a US citizen since 1961, freaks their slimy ass out.

48 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:44pm

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Now you're just doing this for your own amusement.

/I love you, Steve. And the more I love you, the more I must fuck with you.

your VOTE or your RATINGS!....CHOOSE WISELY!

49 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:58pm

So. Tell me how Sharron Angle will have an effect on the Japanese economy?

50 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:34:16pm

[crickets]

51 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:34:36pm

re: #37 Gus 802

Don't get too excited. Obama will call the shots for the next two years. Good chance he'll be reelected if the GOP puts a Palin type against him in 2012.

Right, there's nobody that can win and the primaries and in the general.

52 Randall Gross  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:16pm

For those who tweet, the humor hashtag tonight is "Moviesinmypants"..... that said I must head upwards in my abode to see if pleasant dreams await.

53 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:28pm

re: #44 Gus 802

Don't forget that the primary objective of the GOP after Tuesday is to go after homosexuals, bring back prayer in schools, creationism, and trying to get Obama impeached. It should prove interesting. Especially in how they try to effect the global economy from South Carolina.

No kidding... right up here in Conifer... we are already getting the interment camps ready for the gays, the dog food supplies are being stocked up, Grandma is going to have a good stock of Alpo, we've targeted three left leaning churches for demolition and the new Hijab ban will pass with flying colors.

54 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:31pm

How is the GOP going to fix things with the EU? Let's say Portugal. Greece. France. I mean besides how the GOP is interested in who is having sex with whom.

55 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:46pm

re: #44 Gus 802

Don't forget that the primary objective of the GOP after Tuesday is to go after homosexuals, bring back prayer in schools, creationism, and trying to get Obama impeached. It should prove interesting. Especially in how they try to effect the global economy from South Carolina.

buckle up...it's gonna be a good one

56 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:47pm

Tax cuts!

57 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:37:03pm

re: #56 Gus 802

Tax cuts!

yup, death by a thousand cuts

58 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:37:17pm

re: #55 albusteve

buckle up...it's gonna be a good one

OK I'll wait. I'm sure it's worth a laugh or two already.

59 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:37:22pm

re: #48 albusteve

your VOTE or your RATINGS!...CHOOSE WISELY!

Don't assume I won't.

60 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:38:22pm

re: #49 Gus 802

So. Tell me how Sharron Angle will have an effect on the Japanese economy?

She'll say some words and the Japanese will think "Oh my, how could we have missed this, she's right!"

61 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:38:23pm

We're dealing with a global economy. The GOP won't be able to do squat.

62 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:38:33pm

I'm going with whatever Jon Stewart tells me...a political and social genius

63 deranged cat  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:39:02pm

the comment trolls seem to be out in full force today. lots of "the beck rally was atleast two times larger!" "this shows the liberal bias of CBS!" etc etc

64 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:39:57pm

re: #61 Gus 802

We're dealing with a global economy. The GOP won't be able to do squat.

Germany?....hello Barak?....you there?

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:40:04pm

re: #48 albusteve

your VOTE or your RATINGS!...CHOOSE WISELY!

I'll tell you who I'm not gonna vote for, the fuckin' Rotting Stones. They should be charged with Grand Theft Musical Style.

66 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:40:06pm

re: #28 marjoriemoon

That's what they said in 2008.

It's also what they said about Reagan in 1982 and Clinton in 1994. Hell, I said the same thing about Bush in the direct aftermath of the Enron scandal.

Oops.

67 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:40:57pm

re: #64 albusteve

Germany?...hello Barak?...you there?

Steve... you're in top form tonight... up your meds :)

68 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:41:06pm

re: #64 albusteve

Germany?...hello Barak?...you there?

What are you talking about?

69 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:05pm

re: #64 albusteve

Germany?...hello Barak?...you there?

What's he going to do? Yell at them? That might work in a Tea Party rally but that won't change anything in the real world.

70 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:28pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

I'll tell you who I'm not gonna vote for, the fuckin' Rotting Stones. They should be charged with Grand Theft Musical Style.

the Stones took traditional styles, homoginized them for consumption and went merrily laughing all the way to the bank...what's your problem?...granted, they are not AC/DC

71 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:38pm

re: #61 Gus 802

We're dealing with a global economy. The GOP won't be able to do squat.

More to the point, they won't want to do squat. Why try to solve a problem when keeping it going keeps your base riled up and willing to vote?

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:10pm

re: #49 Gus 802

So. Tell me how Sharron Angle will have an effect on the Japanese economy?

By flooding the urchin market?

73 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:15pm

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Steve... you're in top form tonight... up your meds :)

good idea, thanks bro....
wait one

74 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:18pm

So who are you going to bring to the forefront to affect this change after Tuesday?

Michele Bachmann?

75 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:32pm

Sharron Angle?

76 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:43pm

LOL

77 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:57pm

Jim "The Undertake" DeMint?

78 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:06pm

re: #69 Gus 802

What's he going to do? Yell at them? That might work in a Tea Party rally but that won't change anything in the real world.

What's going on in Germany that Obama should supposedly do something about? I'm missing the reference.

79 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:13pm

Another Female Soldier Compilation Video

Liveleak Video

Namaste, y'all
80 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:16pm

re: #77 Gus 802

Jim "The Undertake" DeMint?

Oops. Undertaker.

81 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:16pm

re: #49 Gus 802

So. Tell me how Sharron Angle will have an effect on the Japanese economy?

She'll try to outlaw hentai and video games. Or something.

82 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:19pm

re: #69 Gus 802

What's he going to do? Yell at them? That might work in a Tea Party rally but that won't change anything in the real world.

no, he should take a page from their playbook....too late now tho

83 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:44pm

re: #74 Gus 802

So who are you going to bring to the forefront to affect this change after Tuesday?

Michele Bachmann?

I totally forgot about that quack. Once Angle came onto the scene, and then O'Donnell, and then Paladino, etc...I lost track of Bachmann.

84 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:57pm

No wait. I know. Rand Paul. The truther.

85 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:45:17pm

re: #76 Gus 802

LOL

new rule....
one cannot laugh at their own jokes

86 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:46:08pm

re: #78 Jadespring

What's going on in Germany that Obama should supposedly do something about? I'm missing the reference.

they refused to pass a US style stimulus bill

87 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:46:16pm

re: #85 albusteve

new rule...
one cannot laugh at their own jokes

OK I think it's funny though. The GOP will take over the house with a bunch of crazies and I'm supposed to be optimistic. Yep.

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:46:20pm

re: #70 albusteve

the Stones took traditional styles, homoginized them for consumption and went merrily laughing all the way to the bank...what's your problem?...granted, they are not AC/DC

No problem here, I just like calling it as I see it. If I were to sum up the entire Stones' musical impact on the world in three words...

Imitators, not innovators.

89 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:46:33pm

re: #86 albusteve

they refused to pass a US style stimulus bill

Okay. Thanks.

90 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:47:07pm

re: #87 Gus 802

OK I think it's funny though. The GOP will take over the house with a bunch of crazies and I'm supposed to be optimistic. Yep.

actually, it was funny

91 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:47:09pm

So who are all these House winners I hear tell about?

92 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:48:10pm

re: #90 albusteve

actually, it was funny

Meh. Just watch. Nothing will happen. Same old, same old after Tuesday.

93 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:48:38pm

re: #88 Slumbering Behemoth

No problem here, I just like calling it as I see it. If I were to sum up the entire Stones' musical impact on the world in three words...

Imitators, not innovators.

fine....I cannot save the R/R world by myself....you are dismissed, go back to your Kenny G

94 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:49:45pm

re: #91 marjoriemoon

So who are all these House winners I hear tell about?

ask Glenn.com

95 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:50:21pm

In other news, bears are Catholic and the Pope...well, you know:

Tea Party Movement Alienating Young Voters: Tea Party's Social Views Alienate Young Voters, Even Among Fiscal Conservatives, Analysts Say

96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:50:54pm

re: #93 albusteve

fine...I cannot save the R/R world by myself...you are dismissed, go back to your Kenny G

Hahaha! Kenny G? Well done, you may well have found the one musician I respect less then the Stones as a whole.
/like I said last thread, all nite brother.

97 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:51:27pm

re: #92 Gus 802

Meh. Just watch. Nothing will happen. Same old, same old after Tuesday.

I'm not happy with any office holders...show me the beef, until then, it's all the same old rerun...my undies are unbunched at this point

98 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:52:05pm

re: #95 Lidane

In other news, bears are Catholic and the Pope...well, you know:

Tea Party Movement Alienating Young Voters: Tea Party's Social Views Alienate Young Voters, Even Among Fiscal Conservatives, Analysts Say

And here I thought that stopping gay marriage would fix the economy. Must like the GOP platform is always talking about.

/

99 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:52:27pm

re: #61 Gus 802

We're dealing with a global economy. The GOP won't be able to do squat.

I disagree. Proper economic policies can greatly encourage growth. The GOP needs to be the pro-growth party. That is a prerequisite for the Republican party to hold onto gains it makes,

100 Michael Orion Powell  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:53:12pm

My mom is in DC right now and told me that the rally has morphed into Halloween. There should be some interesting stuff there.

I must say, however, from tea parties to Restoring Honor to the Rally for Sanity, there's a whole lot more engagement with the general public than there was during the Bush years. That's probably for the best. =D

101 William of Orange  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:53:14pm

It's a nice figure, 215000, but emphasizing the size of attendance makes it look more of an ego-war than showing what the real problem is. The message of the rally is show how sick American politics has become. The turnout was good but bringing a sizable crowd to it's feet, and eclipsing other rallies, was not the main goal.

102 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:53:15pm

re: #96 Slumbering Behemoth

Hahaha! Kenny G? Well done, you may well have found the one musician I respect less then the Stones as a whole.
/like I said last thread, all nite brother.

Stones haters are predictable...a dime a dozen, or less

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:53:32pm

re: #98 Gus 802

Gay marriage stole my car.
/

104 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:54:48pm

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth

Gay marriage stole my car.
/

you deserved less...I hope they totaled it

105 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:55:12pm

re: #102 albusteve

More predictable than Stones haters? Folks who think they're original or somehow worthwhile.

/are we having fun yet?

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:55:14pm

re: #6 b_sharp

Although comparing numbers between political events feels good when the numbers are on your side, and it does give some indication of how many politically committed people are willing to spend the money and time to attend, the comparison really is irrelevant where it matters.

They aren't an indicator of voting results.

It's totally irrelevent. It doesn't mean anything. It's just funny, given how completely nuts the TPers have been about inflating crowd counts from events the last year or two.

107 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:55:38pm

re: #86 albusteve

they refused to pass a US style stimulus bill

Merkel Makes Like Obama With German Stimulus Excluding Europe

As global consumer demand melts away, slowing production lines across Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel is injecting 82 billion euros ($110 billion) into the economy, the biggest stimulus package in Europe. The government has also made 100 billion euros available in credit and loan guarantees to German companies, including 25 billion euros in loans from Frankfurt- based KfW Group, the state-owned development bank. Merkel says the aid is necessary for the world’s No. 1 exporter to survive the economic crisis.

108 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:55:46pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Proper economic policies can greatly encourage growth. The GOP needs to be the pro-growth party. That is a prerequisite for the Republican party to hold onto gains it makes,

The only thing they can do is slow down Fed spending. That's where it would stop.

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:55:47pm

re: #11 eclectic infidel

Notice something else about the signs? NO TYPOS!

The old Nazi-fightin' man even had rather nice layout, and use of color.

110 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:56:40pm

re: #13 William

It's funny that Jon Leibowitz, whose ratings were lower than "Beavis and Butthead" on MTV, has become the pied piper of the Michael Moore Party.

So much confusing science, I'm forced to stick with "dumb" guys Victor Davis Hanson and Charles Krauthammer.

That's such a weird statement on so many levels that I'm just going to nod and say 'uh huh, that's interesting'.

111 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:56:44pm

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

More predictable than Stones haters? Folks who think they're original or somehow worthwhile.

/are we having fun yet?

I didn't claim they were original...try to keep up you Monkeys lover...they crossed over and kept the tradition of the Delta blues alive

112 Kragar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:57:14pm

re: #95 Lidane

In other news, bears are Catholic and the Pope...well, you know:

Tea Party Movement Alienating Young Voters: Tea Party's Social Views Alienate Young Voters, Even Among Fiscal Conservatives, Analysts Say

INCONCEIVABLE!

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:57:38pm

re: #22 marjoriemoon

Leibowitz? And it may surprise you to know that not all Democrats like Michael Moore.

If I had to follow someone's rantings, I'd rather it be Jon Stewart than Glenn Beck.

'Leibowitz' is to either remind you that he's a Jew, or suggest that he's trying to hide that he's a Jew.

114 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:57:52pm

re: #111 albusteve

I didn't claim they were original...try to keep up you Monkeys lover...they crossed over and kept the tradition of the Delta blues alive

Actually... Hermans Hermits rocked.

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:32pm

re: #104 albusteve

you deserved less...I hope they totaled it

Oh, they did worse. It was stolen, totaled, run through a shredder, pissed on by a herd of angry elephants, then set on fire.

Then the Stones wrote a song about it, ripping off lyrics and riffs from real musicians that came before them. And that song sucked way more than what happened to my car. :P

116 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:38pm

After Tuesday it won't make a hill of beans.

117 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:43pm

re: #108 Gus 802

The only thing they can do is slow down Fed spending. That's where it would stop.

Not just that. Push to keep tax rates low, and pass pro-business legislation. Let Obama veto it if he wants, he'll just look like the guy who prefers maintaining government control over real recovery.

118 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:57pm

OT: Anyone been to the US Virgin Islands? Just wondering what they're like if anyone has.

119 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:00pm

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

'Leibowitz' is to either remind you that he's a Jew, or suggest that he's trying to hide that he's a Jew.

Yea, I know. I was hoping the little gnat would care to expound.

120 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:05pm

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

Merkel Makes Like Obama With German Stimulus Excluding Europe

the idea is that Germany did not quadruple it's debt

121 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:23pm

re: #118 Jadespring

OT: Anyone been to the US Virgin Islands? Just wondering what they're like if anyone has.

They are surrounded by water... that I know... anyone else?

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:53pm

re: #40 bratwurst

Now wait just a minute here...are you trying to say JON STEWART IS A JEW?!?!?!?!?!

Image: 313416353v2147483647_480x480_Front_Color-White.jpg

It's as though I went around saying "Bernard Schwartz" every time I referenced Tony Curtis, just to make sure you knew the dirty rat changed his name.

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:00:16pm

re: #45 BigPapa

Is Jon Stewart Jewish?

SHHHHHHH!!

124 Inconsequential Consequence  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:00:21pm

re: #118 Jadespring

OT: Anyone been to the US Virgin Islands? Just wondering what they're like if anyone has.

They are bereft of virgins.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:00:49pm

re: #49 Gus 802

So. Tell me how Sharron Angle will have an effect on the Japanese economy?

She may become the star of a popular anime!

126 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:02:11pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Not just that. Push to keep tax rates low, and pass pro-business legislation. Let Obama veto it if he wants, he'll just look like the guy who prefers maintaining government control over real recovery.

How? Look, the Dow crashed when Greece was almost bankrupt. Japan sneezes and the Dow crashes. How in the world will the GOP fix that?

127 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:02:35pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, they did worse. It was stolen, totaled, run through a shredder, pissed on by a herd of angry elephants, then set on fire.

Then the Stones wrote a song about it, ripping off lyrics and riffs from real musicians that came before them. And that song sucked way more than what happened to my car. :P

old musicians die...someone has to carry the torch...and the Stones have done just that, making millionaires out of some of the people that came before them...tribute so to speak...your infantile distain is misplaced

128 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:03:33pm

re: #120 albusteve

the idea is that Germany did not quadruple it's debt

The reality is that Germany wasn't fighting two wars at once, because they'd learned that lesson previously.

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:03:35pm

re: #111 albusteve

try to keep up you Monkeys lover

Monkeys lover? Lame. You've got better material than that. Load both barrels, bro.

130 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:03:39pm

re: #114 Walter L. Newton

Actually... Hermans Hermits rocked.

no...don't tax me Paul Revere

131 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:04:02pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

It's as though I went around saying "Bernard Schwartz" every time I referenced Tony Curtis, just to make sure you knew the dirty rat changed his name.

It's just an ugly thing to say.

I don't even like Stewart all the much. He's funny, he makes some great points, but he's also a jerk. I was quite happy that Obama put him in his place.

I've grown much more fond of Colbert.

132 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:04:31pm

If John Stewart is trying to hide the fact that he is Jewish he sure is doing a shitty job at it. I would think the very first thing one would do is not talk about it, all the time, on a publicly aired show.

Maybe that's just me though.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:04:41pm

re: #95 Lidane

In other news, bears are Catholic and the Pope...well, you know:

Tea Party Movement Alienating Young Voters: Tea Party's Social Views Alienate Young Voters, Even Among Fiscal Conservatives, Analysts Say

They've been saying for years that the younger generation of evangelicals just isn't responding to the same kind of so-con stuff that worked for their parents in the same way. Different concerns, different theology. Might have an impact on this.

134 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:05:31pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

The reality is that Germany wasn't fighting two wars at once, because they'd learned that lesson previously.

good point...yet Germany's wars are of aggression not compassion, something that took them 50 years to figure out

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:05:39pm

re: #127 albusteve

old musicians die...someone has to carry the torch...and the Stones have done just that, making millionaires out of some of the people that came before them...tribute so to speak...your infantile distain is misplaced

Heh. McDonald's make billions every year selling garbage. People like garbage. People like the Stones. So it goes.

136 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:06:04pm

re: #116 Gus 802

After Tuesday it won't make a hill of beans.

I sort of have a broner just thinking about Tuesday.

137 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:06:20pm

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

They've been saying for years that the younger generation of evangelicals just isn't responding to the same kind of so-con stuff that worked for their parents in the same way. Different concerns, different theology. Might have an impact on this.

Exactly. They've grown up in a much more diverse world, as well, and don't seem to be as polarized.

138 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:06:48pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. McDonald's make billions every year selling garbage. People like garbage. People like the Stones. So it goes.

Actually... one of the best bands of that era/genre was the Kinks.

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:07:49pm

re: #131 marjoriemoon

It's just an ugly thing to say.

I don't even like Stewart all the much. He's funny, he makes some great points, but he's also a jerk. I was quite happy that Obama put him in his place.

I've grown much more fond of Colbert.

I have an unfortunate crush on Colbert.

140 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:08:21pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. McDonald's make billions every year selling garbage. People like garbage. People like the Stones. So it goes.

yup, millions upon millions of people

141 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:10:38pm

re: #131 marjoriemoon

He's funny, he makes some great points, but he's also a jerk. I was quite happy that Obama put him in his place.

I didn't mind John's dude comment one bit, somebody has to speak truth to power and jester is a legit profession.

142 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:11:07pm

re: #138 Walter L. Newton

Actually... one of the best bands of that era/genre was the Kinks.

sure enough....the Davies brothers were deep into the London blues scene, and did their share to promote the music...they are certainly at the forefront of the movement from England back to it's roots here in the US

143 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:11:16pm

re: #136 eclectic infidel

I sort of have a broner just thinking about Tuesday.

For me it will be another day. Same old same old. The economy will still be in the tank. And Dinnerjacket will still be making a scene in the Gulf and we'll keep buying OPEC oil for the next 50 years.

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:11:25pm

re: #138 Walter L. Newton

Stop right there, Walter. I've only got enough energy to shit-talk with one Lizard at a time.
:)

145 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:12:28pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

I have an unfortunate crush on Colbert.

He has the most fascinating childhood history. Have you read about him? Big Irish family. Father died when he was a boy. He was raised in the south, but didn't like the depiction of southerners on TV, mainly the "dumb" characters had southern accents. He practiced mimicing newscasters to get rid of his accent.

Some other things. His unlikely plunge into comedy. He's an interesting fellow.

146 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:13:10pm

re: #145 marjoriemoon

He has the most fascinating childhood history. Have you read about him? Big Irish family. Father died when he was a boy. He was raised in the south, but didn't like the depiction of southerners on TV, mainly the "dumb" characters had southern accents. He practiced mimicing newscasters to get rid of his accent.

Some other things. His unlikely plunge into comedy. He's an interesting fellow.

so am I...pay me

147 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:13:53pm

re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth

Stop right there, Walter. I've only got enough energy to shit-talk with one Lizard at a time.
:)

No problem... I'm headed for work in a few minutes...

148 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:15:00pm

re: #147 Walter L. Newton

Hope you have a Happy Halloween, dude. Even if you have to work through it.

149 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:15:28pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

I didn't mind John's dude comment one bit, somebody has to speak truth to power and jester is a legit profession.

I don't think the healthcare bill is timid either even if we didn't get everything we wanted.

He's not that supportive of Israel. Maybe he's trying to be the jester, or his writers, but he often makes stupid comments.

150 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:15:38pm

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

More predictable than Stones haters? Folks who think they're original or somehow worthwhile.

/are we having fun yet?

Oh no, it's only rock and roll but I like it.

151 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:04pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

I don't think the healthcare bill is timid either even if we didn't get everything we wanted.

He's not that supportive of Israel. Maybe he's trying to be the jester, or his writers, but he often makes stupid comments.

Sorry, he told the Prez the bill was timid, what I was referring to.

152 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:14pm

re: #74 Gus 802

So who are you going to bring to the forefront to affect this change after Tuesday?

Michele Bachmann?

Stop it, Gus. You're scaring me.

:O

153 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:24pm

re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth

Hope you have a Happy Halloween, dude. Even if you have to work through it.

I have to substitute for the regular overnight weekend cashier tonight and tomorrow night, and probably a few more weekends... he had knee surgery. I don't like the overnights, but what can I do?

154 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:39pm

re: #146 albusteve

so am I...pay me

The check's in the mail!

155 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:17:18pm

To work... maybe will be back after 9:00 am...

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:18:25pm

re: #140 albusteve

yup, millions upon millions of people

Truly, there is not accounting for taste.

Stones : Music :: McDonald's : Food

People have built wealthy empires on junk. It is what it is.

157 albusteve  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:19:42pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

Truly, there is not accounting for taste.

Stones : Music :: McDonald's : Food

People have built wealthy empires on junk. It is what it is.

support you point that the Stones are junk music

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:20:10pm

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

Put on some scary make-up and act the part. You've got the chops, may as well have fun with it.

159 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:21:48pm

re: #152 funky chicken

Stop it, Gus. You're scaring me.

:O

It won't matter much. People fail to acknowledge the balance of power. The legislative process. The Dems controlled the House, Senate, and the Executive branch and they barely got stuff passed how they wished. Even within the Democratic party they had to face a fight. It's not as easy as people make it out to seem.

160 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:22:47pm

re: #157 albusteve

It is what it is. Just because McDonald's makes a fortune selling junk food does not change the fact that it's garbage. Same with the Stones.

161 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:24:33pm

re: #126 Gus 802

How? Look, the Dow crashed when Greece was almost bankrupt. Japan sneezes and the Dow crashes. How in the world will the GOP fix that?

The Dow's a bit spooked, but its not the be all and end all. If Republicans are smart, they'll push for policies that are pro-sustained growth. That is the best way forward. Just because its a global economy, doesn't mean we should be smart about how we handle our part of it.

162 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:25:20pm

re: #134 albusteve

good point...yet Germany's wars are of aggression not compassion, something that took them 50 years to figure out

I don't think motive has very much to do with line item value.

Reality: Bush's last budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit. Obama's first budget reduced that to $1.29 trillion.

163 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:26:31pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

The Dow's a bit spooked, but its not the be all and end all. If Republicans are smart, they'll push for policies that are pro-sustained growth. That is the best way forward. Just because its a global economy, doesn't mean we should be smart about how we handle our part of it.

I'm tired. If things go according to plan we're facing another recession after this one. It's the pattern. This one is about to kill me and I don't see anything changing that pattern.

164 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:27:03pm

re: #157 albusteve

support you point that the Stones are junk music

I liked a lot of Stones songs until I really paid attention to the lyrics. I'm more a melody beat person for the most part with any lyrics. The lyrics killed the whole songs for me. Lots of sexism and pretty blatant misogyny. It's was unfortunate.

165 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:27:26pm

re: #164 Jadespring

pimf "with any music"

166 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:29:40pm

Good night! Be well all. Sorry for being so gloomy.

167 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:34:07pm

re: #166 Gus 802

Good night! Be well all. Sorry for being so gloomy.

I understand. We all have gloomy moments.

168 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:35:04pm

re: #163 Gus 802

I'm tired. If things go according to plan we're facing another recession after this one. It's the pattern. This one is about to kill me and I don't see anything changing that pattern.

This pattern won't change whether it's repubs or dems in charge because the economic 'wisdom' of the day doesn't address the real problems of why the pattern is occurring. It's too micro in it's outlook and doesn't connect with the macro problems that the globe as a whole is facing in terms of ecological limits to resources. Until the mainstream wisdom changes to address this nothing will change.

169 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:36:05pm

I'm going to head to bed. Goodnight, all.

170 boxhead  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 1:47:04am

re: #87 Gus 802

OK I think it's funny though. The GOP will take over the house with a bunch of crazies and I'm supposed to be optimistic. Yep.

Not funny, scary..... So many anti-science folks with ruling power. That will suck.

171 RogueOne  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 5:07:18am

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

I don't think motive has very much to do with line item value.

Reality: Bush's last budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit. Obama's first budget reduced that to $1.29 trillion.

It's funny when people take talking points from biased sources, especially when those talking points turn out to be both factually incorrect and misleading. John Stewart said to stop it so...stop it.

172 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 6:40:36am

re: #39 Jadespring

Speaking of election. I'm happy to report that I appear to be surrounded by a whole bunch of relatively sane people. Small potatoes compared to the big election this week but it still has a direct affect on my day to day life. Municipal elections were held this week and the wonderful electorate decided that enough was enough and turfed the entire town council. It was a sound turfing too. This past town council were utter idiots that spent all their time fighting with each other to the point where the town lost out on some major development (which we need) because the companies didn't want to deal with the putzes. It wasn't political fighting either, no leftie right debate just pure personal vendetta crap that would be hilarious if it didn't have such real consequences to area.

I was surprised when I read the results because I had fallen into some cynicism about the whole thing. It restored my faith in my fellow humans (and neighbors). Plus the guy I wanted to be mayor got in which was also unexpected. The assumed front runner did sit on council before and I expect that was enough for people to vote for the other guy.

I'm usually wary about a totally virgin council but this case is an exception. I'm not sure how it could be worse then it was.

We put the Canadian equivalent of a Tea Partier in the mayor's chair. Somehow he's going to cut the city's payroll, improve services and cut taxes.

The only good thing is that essentially the mayor is just another member of council. So far as I know he can't just enable legislation by fiat.

Still, the next few years are not going to be fun.

173 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 6:51:20am

re: #134 albusteve

good point...yet Germany's wars are of aggression not compassion, something that took them 50 years to figure out

The US is in wars of compassion?

174 Jadespring  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 7:03:06am

re: #172 Romantic Heretic

Are you talking about Rob Ford by chance?

175 deranged cat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 7:31:50am

re: #145 marjoriemoon

He has the most fascinating childhood history. Have you read about him? Big Irish family. Father died when he was a boy. He was raised in the south, but didn't like the depiction of southerners on TV, mainly the "dumb" characters had southern accents. He practiced mimicing newscasters to get rid of his accent.

Some other things. His unlikely plunge into comedy. He's an interesting fellow.

hes also a really amazing voice actor. watch Harvey Birdman Attorney At Law and you'd never guess which characters were colbert.

176 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 7:44:32am

Love the exploding heads at Wingnut blogs about the rally and its coverage.

177 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 7:47:31am

re: #174 Jadespring

Are you talking about Rob Ford by chance?

Yep.

178 JeffFX  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:12:18am

re: #101 William of Orange

It's a nice figure, 215000, but emphasizing the size of attendance makes it look more of an ego-war than showing what the real problem is. The message of the rally is show how sick American politics has become. The turnout was good but bringing a sizable crowd to it's feet, and eclipsing other rallies, was not the main goal.

To me it's a wonderful thing that a rally of people just having fun, and being against political hate, is so much bigger than a rally of people Fox made afraid of their fellow Americans.

It would be exactly the same if they put an extreme lefty rally in perspective. Saturday was a very good day.

179 JeffFX  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:27:35am

re: #95 Lidane

In other news, bears are Catholic and the Pope...well, you know:

Tea Party Movement Alienating Young Voters: Tea Party's Social Views Alienate Young Voters, Even Among Fiscal Conservatives, Analysts Say

My brother and sis-in-law are Evangelical Christians in their very early 40's. The hatred of gays and minorities that you so often see in the Tea-Party movement has no place in their lives, or in the lives of the people they study and worship with.

It's slower-going with Social Conservatives, but I believe that most of us Americans are becoming better people over time, including the SoCons.

Slavery is gone, women can vote, races can intermarry, we're moving toward the end of marijuana prohibition, and moving toward legalizing gay marriage. Things are getting better socially all the time.

180 Jadespring  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:36:56am

re: #177 Romantic Heretic

Yep.

Yes it will be interesting with him at the helm.

I heard an interview with him and wasn't impressed. He appears to be a bit of dolt. All flair and surface talk without a whole lot of real substance. It was 'gravy train, gravy train and yes gravy train". :) Not that I have a problem with the general principle of reducing the 'gravy' train, that's great and all but when questioned about specifics you get a mash of blah blah phrases and rhetoric.


His whole 'I'll build a subway' thing cracked me up as well. How he expects to do that and keep all the other 'fiscal' promises is a mystery. Maybe it's magic. Anyways last I heard he was back pedaling on that promise already although he was setting up a scenario where when he most likely will have to make a full blown retraction into a "I'm sorry we can't do it because of X and Y. It's their fault. (Not my own fiscal pie in the sky idiocy) " scenario.

181 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:46:48am

re: #179 JeffFX

Slavery is gone, women can vote, races can intermarry, we're moving toward the end of marijuana prohibition, and moving toward legalizing gay marriage.

Just waot until the TP candidates get in power, they will fix all those aberrations and get us back to the America of our Founding Fathers

/

182 Flavia  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 12:18:47pm

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Right...

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic voters are closely divided over whether President Barack Obama should be challenged within the party for a second term in 2012, an Associated Press-Knowledge Networks Poll finds.

That glum assessment carries over into the nation at large, which is similarly divided over whether Obama should be a one-term president.

Poll: Dems split over handing Obama '12 nomination

[Link: www.wtop.com...]

I find it highly ironic for the press that created Obama to now turn on him. Not all that surprising, in retrospect (it's what they do) - but ironic, to be sure.

183 AmericanParty  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:23:26pm

lol CBS news....really Charles. That's a completely laughable source. Almost as bad as a Wikipedia source.

184 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:25:03pm

re: #183 AmericanParty

lol CBS news...really Charles. That's a completely laughable source. Almost as bad as a Wikipedia source.

Oh man you can't possibly think you're smart, do you?

I always wonder if stupid people think they're really smart, or if they know deep down inside that they're just repeating the same dumb crap that was fed to them

185 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:25:51pm

re: #183 AmericanParty

lol CBS news...really Charles. That's a completely laughable source. Almost as bad as a Wikipedia source.

What sources would you consider more trustworthy on this issue?

186 jaunte  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:26:10pm

re: #183 AmericanParty

AirPhotosLive.com (the ones who actually did the counting) are also recommended by Forbes and The Wall Street Journal. Do you have the same problems with them?

187 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:26:57pm

re: #185 jamesfirecat

What sources would you consider more trustworthy on this issue?

his Aunt Bea who sends out paranoid chain emails with nicotine-stained fingers, framed photo of the Grand Dragon of the KKK on the wall

188 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:27:23pm

re: #186 jaunte

AirPhotosLive.com (the ones who actually did the counting) are also recommended by Forbes and The Wall Street Journal. Do you have the same problems with them?

Those pinkos at Forbes, what a bunch of smelly hippies

189 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:28:35pm

re: #183 AmericanParty

Can't deal with the fact that a couple of crappy librul comedians put on a bigger event than that Bircher parrot Beck?

190 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:28:54pm

And who has a name like "AmericanParty"? That's just silly, it's like you're trying to be as generic and unremarkable as possible

what's your name? USAPatriot911? I'm Starsandstripes1776GeorgeWashington!

191 AmericanParty  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:28:56pm

re: #187 WindUpBird

his Aunt Bea who sends out paranoid chain emails with nicotine-stained fingers, framed photo of the Grand Dragon of the KKK on the wall

wow, all I said was "lol CBS" and now I'm related to racists? Stay classy.

192 Gus  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:28:58pm

re: #183 AmericanParty

Two things.

1. Maybe you should just hang out at World Net Daily and freakazoid Breitbart's websites.

2. Consider a name change. I think DoucheParty would be more fitting for you.

193 recusancy  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:29:57pm

re: #171 RogueOne

It's funny when people take talking points from biased sources, especially when those talking points turn out to be both factually incorrect and misleading. John Stewart said to stop it so...stop it.

The 2009 budget was Bush's budget.

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:30:01pm

re: #191 AmericanParty

wow, all I said was "lol CBS" and now I'm related to racists? Stay classy.

Son, you're just the latest bit of raw material for comedy :) Because that's what I do with stupid people who repeat dumb GOP memes they heard on Rusty Humphries, I make fun of them

195 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:31:29pm

re: #191 AmericanParty

wow, all I said was "lol CBS" and now I'm related to racists? Stay classy.

Care to answer my question?

Who would you consider a more respectable source of information on this issue?

196 AmericanParty  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:31:59pm

re: #194 WindUpBird

Son, you're just the latest bit of raw material for comedy :) Because that's what I do with stupid people who repeat dumb GOP memes they heard on Rusty Humphries, I make fun of them

Yes, attack the person because you know you can't defend your point.
I don't even know who Rusty Humphries is btw.

197 jaunte  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:33:12pm

re: #196 AmericanParty

Yes, attack the person because you know you can't defend your point.


*ahem*

198 Gus  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:33:21pm

re: #196 AmericanParty

Yes, attack the person because you know you can't defend your point.
I don't even know who Rusty Humphries is btw.

There's nothing to defend.

Glenn Beck: 87,000 people showed up.

Stewart/Colbert Rally: 215,000 American.

Glenn Beck pwnd!

Checkmate!

199 Jadespring  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:33:42pm

re: #196 AmericanParty

Yes, attack the person because you know you can't defend your point.
I don't even know who Rusty Humphries is btw.

Well it's not like you've gone out of the way to defend your point.

"CBS LOL" Wow great point made there. I'm convinced.

200 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:34:13pm

re: #196 AmericanParty

Yes, attack the person because you know you can't defend your point.
I don't even know who Rusty Humphries is btw.


Man, you're like a child, I love it

201 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:35:14pm

re: #199 Jadespring

Well it's not like you've gone out of the way to defend your point.

"CBS LOL" Wow great point made there. I'm convinced.

And in a dead thread, by a guy who's posted almost nothing in 2 years. That's cooking with gas!

202 AmericanParty  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:36:01pm

re: #195 jamesfirecat

CNN, BBC

203 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:36:10pm

re: #196 AmericanParty

Yes, attack the person because you know you can't defend your point.
I don't even know who Rusty Humphries is btw.

I'm trying to attack your argument but you won't answer my question.

Who do you consider to be a more reliable source of information on this particular issue?

204 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:36:59pm

re: #202 AmericanParty

Do you understand the source for the claim isn't CBS, but a third-party that they hired to do the counting?

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:38:47pm

re: #204 Obdicut

The same one that did the counting for that Bircher parrot Beck's rally. Obviously a Hollywierd Librul plot.

206 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:46:04pm

re: #202 AmericanParty

CNN, BBC

Okay then...

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]


"It seemed clear that turnout was at the top end of what was expected and thousands at the side of the Mall found themselves struggling to see or hear what was going on on the distant stage."

[Link: theweek.com...]

1. A single port-a-potty for every 300 guests
While 150,000 people are expected to attend the event, organizers have secured only 508 port-a-potties, reports The Washington Post, or roughly one portable john for every 300 attendees.

Ergo "top end of what was expected " must mean at least 150,000.

That's over twice the number of people at Glenn Beck's rally...

The rally to restore sanity

207 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:51:01pm

re: #202 AmericanParty

CNN, BBC

Oh and here's this....

"In comparing rallies, size matters -- and having covered the conservative and liberal rallies on the mall earlier this year, I can tell you that the Restore Sanity rally was much larger. This is fitting, because there are more Americans in the center than those who are on the right or left. And there are certainly more Americans who prefer the leavening effects of laughter to ideological fear-mongering."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

208 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:51:53pm

re: #206 jamesfirecat

Don't even bother. It's now obvious that the dumbass is from some Village of the Banned or other.

209 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:53:37pm

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't even bother. It's now obvious that the dumbass is from some Village of the Banned or other.


I want to see him twist in the wind, he may not learn anything from it but it'll be fun to watch...

210 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Oct 31, 2010 4:55:31pm

re: #209 jamesfirecat

He's dead, Jim.
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