GOP Extremist Ken Buck Defeated in Colorado

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In Colorado, I’m pleased to report that far right GOP candidate Ken Buck has been defeated by Democrat Michael Bennet: Bennet wins in Senate race.

Last night many people (including me) went to bed thinking Buck was the winner, but the final returns from Denver and Boulder put Bennet over the top. Whew. That was close.

It’s becoming clear that in many of the most publicized high-profile races, voters definitively rejected the religious right extremists backed by the Tea Party movement and their corporate astroturf sponsors.

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1 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:38:34pm

Buck, O'Donnel, Angle....

America went three for three!

2 BishopX  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:40:08pm

A pity about Mr. Paulre: #1 jamesfirecat

A pity that Mr. Paul breaks that trend.

3 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:40:22pm

I'm very glad Hickenlooper stomped all over Tancredo.

4 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:40:36pm

Hooray!

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:41:27pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

I guess there are some pockets of sanity out there.

6 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:42:38pm

given that clearly the bagger insurgent candidates hurt the gop effort substantially - how is the gop establishment gonna keep em down on the farm and off of the ballot in 2012?

7 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:42:54pm

re: #2 BishopX

A pity about Mr. Paul

A pity that Mr. Paul breaks that trend.

What's the matter with Kansas Kentucky?

8 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:43:17pm

There really is a God. He doesn't want America to go down the tubes completely yet.

9 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:44:52pm

re: #6 engineer dog

given that clearly the bagger insurgent candidates hurt the gop effort substantially - how is the gop establishment gonna keep em down on the farm and off of the ballot in 2012?

Please G-d they don't. The best thing for the good folks of America is for them to run Palin :) Of course I still have some faith in America and the American voter. A president Palin is something to make my hair white at the thought of it if taken seriously.

10 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:45:52pm

re: #9 LudwigVanQuixote

Please G-d they don't. The best thing for the good folks of America is for them to run Palin :) Of course I still have some faith in America and the American voter. A president Palin is something to make my hair white at the thought of it if taken seriously.


By the time 2012 rolls around I plan to be a millionare who will be enjoying that top 5% tax cut she's bound to give out, so I win either way!

11 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:47:43pm

And don't forget Alaskan tea bagger Joe Miller apparently lost to a write-in candidate, though it will take awhile to count all those write-in votes.

12 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:49:09pm

re: #11 aagcobb

And don't forget Alaskan tea bagger Joe Miller apparently lost to a write-in candidate, though it will take awhile to count all those write-in votes.

Mur-cow-ski, Murk-ow-ski, Mir-cow-sky.... Hansle?

13 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:52:55pm

Mur-cow-ski, Murk-ow-ski, Mir-cow-sky

normalize them with double metaphone

14 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:53:20pm

I've updated the Reagan/Thatcher support of global warming post even more.

15 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:55:32pm

In Colorado, there was a politician named Buck.

He hated scientists, the poor, and some people's choices of who to fuck.

He lost.

-end of poem-

16 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:56:06pm

Yeah this is good to hear. And as people have mentioned looks like Miller is losing to Murkowski in Alaska too. Pretty glad really that a lot of nuts didn't get elected in the senate. The good news here out of Va-11 is it looks like Gerry Connolly increased his lead over Keith Finian. So, I am not really too disappointed with yesterday's results all in all. Sure a lot of candidates whom I'd prefer win did not but it could have been much worse.

17 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:56:40pm

hahaha I love my future governor:
[Link: blogtown.portlandmercury.com...]

Close race, but Dudley will not get an advantage in my county, which is full of hippie, bike riding, tattooed granola subaru Portlanders

L-l-l-l-liberal! And full of rad

18 Gus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:57:46pm

On homosexuality:

"You can choose who your partner is. I think birth has an influence over it, like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically you have a choice..." Ken Buck

19 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:58:57pm

re: #18 Gus 802

And the completely easy counterargument to that:

Youtube Video
20 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:59:08pm

re: #18 Gus 802

On homosexuality:

"You can choose who your partner is. I think birth has an influence over it, like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically you have a choice..." Ken Buck

Did the person who was said gay marraige would lead to people getting engaged to tables win their election?

21 Gus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 5:59:16pm

On the Establishment Clause:

"I disagree strongly with the concept of separation of church and state...It was not written into the Constitution..." Ken Buck

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:00:24pm

re: #18 Gus 802

If being gay is a choice, then so too is the color of your skin a choice.

23 LotharBot  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:00:34pm

Like I said in the overnight open thread: I'm happy the Dems lost a bunch of seats. I'm even happier that the Tea Party's wackiest candidates were refudiated.

24 alexknyc  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:00:40pm

re: #18 Gus 802

On homosexuality:

"You can choose who your partner is. I think birth has an influence over it, like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically you have a choice..." Ken Buck

This old piece of debunked bullshit again?

I work with a guy who's gay and it's torturing him. He's tried everything to not be gay-- straight camp, counseling, abstinence, the seminary-- none of it has worked.

If being gay was a choice, it wouldn't be his.

25 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:00:50pm

re: #21 Gus 802

On the Establishment Clause:

"I disagree strongly with the concept of separation of church and state...It was not written into the Constitution..." Ken Buck

Yep this is the bullet Colorado just dodged. Happy for the people I know there. Glad they dodged Tancredo in the governor's mansion too.

26 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:01:44pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

If being gay is a choice, then so too is the color of your skin a choice.

And your height!

27 brookly red  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:02:05pm

Shockwave Flash crashed again... WTF does Flash have do do with this? I curse these parasites... forget smaller gubermint, I want smaller internet! Flash must die!

28 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:02:24pm

re: #26 jamesfirecat

And your height!


and the gender you leave the womb..........

29 Gus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:02:36pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

If being gay is a choice, then so too is the color of your skin a choice.

Right. It's like the video Obdicut put up in #19. No one chooses to be gay or straight.

30 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:06:56pm

re: #29 Gus 802

I dig that vid. Such a brilliantly simple line of questioning, it seems he got a few people to reexamine their opinions.

31 Gus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:08:01pm

re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth

I dig that vid. Such a brilliantly simple line of questioning, it seems he got a few people to reexamine their opinions.

Same thing I noticed. People are pretty quick to think twice after he asks them the reverse regarding being straight.

32 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:08:18pm

The thing I don't about those who claim being gay is choice is how do they explain the very anti gay pastors who are either revealed to be gay themselves or have gay children. Of course, some of them probably think it's some kind of conspiracy or some crap. HOnestly, even if being gay was a choice, we still shouldn't treat gay people like second class citizens. I have a uge problem with groups like the AFA, Focus on the FAmily who claim their views are "pro family." There to me is nothing more anti family than putting some one down because they're gay.

33 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:09:28pm

re: #29 Gus 802

Right. It's like the video Obdicut put up in #19. No one chooses to be gay or straight.

If being hetero is 'natural', in other words genetic, then being 'gay' must also be genetic.

It simply is not a choice.

34 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:11:15pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

This is good point. Even if it were a choice, it would be a choice that harmed no one. It doesn't matter that it's a choice, and I don't like it when gay rights are framed as "The poor queers just can't help themselves".

However, I think it is a very good way for people to understand gay people, to realize that they don't have a choice.

35 JamesWI  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:11:37pm

Regarding the consequences of the election with regards to redistricting (lawhawk as a page up talking about it):

Republicans and the Tea Party made a big deal of being against "politics as usual" or "back-room deals" or "Washington doing what's best for Washington" (a line from Boehner's speech, choked out between tears).

Of course, all of us here know that all that talk is just bullshit. I just wonder how quickly and blatantly they will be prove they're the same as every previous politician when it comes to gerrymandering, and whether Democrats can effectively publicize it. And if anyone will care.

36 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:12:28pm

re: #35 JamesWI

Regarding the consequences of the election with regards to redistricting (lawhawk as a page up talking about it):

Republicans and the Tea Party made a big deal of being against "politics as usual" or "back-room deals" or "Washington doing what's best for Washington" (a line from Boehner's speech, choked out between tears).

Of course, all of us here know that all that talk is just bullshit. I just wonder how quickly and blatantly they will be prove they're the same as every previous politician when it comes to gerrymandering, and whether Democrats can effectively publicize it. And if anyone will care.

It doesn't matter. They will just end up on Dancing With The Stars anyway.

37 JeffFX  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:12:54pm

re: #33 b_sharp

If being hetero is 'natural', in other words genetic, then being 'gay' must also be genetic.

It simply is not a choice.

Anyone who says it's a choice is either being very dishonest, or is bisexual. Most of us are attracted to either males or females, and know we never chose. It's just part of who we are.

38 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:14:23pm

re: #34 Obdicut

This is good point. Even if it were a choice, it would be a choice that harmed no one. It doesn't matter that it's a choice, and I don't like it when gay rights are framed as "The poor queers just can't help themselves".

However, I think it is a very good way for people to understand gay people, to realize that they don't have a choice.

Oh, I easily agree with that. HOnestly, my big problem is when groups like those I mentioned use the fact that some Nazis like Ernst Rohm were gay and use it as a reason that we should be intolerant to gays. Using that logic we should persecute Catholics and Lutherans because many Nazis were that too. Of course the real infuriating thing about doing that to me is it misses the lessons of regimes like the Nazis which is not to persecute people simply because they're different. I get real offended when I see gay rights activists compared to the Nazis. It's outrageous considering these people simply want the same rights as I do.

39 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:15:58pm

The moral of this 2010 election is to be careful who you nominate. Note that Marco Rubio is very conservative, but he also had the poise and campaigning skill to win. By contrast, Christine O'Donnell won the nomination because the GOP base voted "not liberal" without reference to whether their preferred nominee was electable. Republicans need to take that lesson to heart:

Nominating conservatives is a good idea, but you need to make sure that they really capable of winning. Don't fall prey to wishful thinking, the voters tend not to elect weirdos of questionable background.

40 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:17:13pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Anyone comparing gay rights activists to the Nazis is making as little sense and acting as contemptibly as someone comparing Jewish activists to the Nazis.

Common trait? Both were sent to death camps by the Nazis.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Note:

After the war, the treatment of homosexuals in concentration camps went unacknowledged by most countries, and some men were even re-arrested and imprisoned based on evidence found during the Nazi years. It was not until the 1980s that governments began to acknowledge this episode, and not until 2002 that the German government apologized to the gay community. This period still provokes controversy, however. In 2005, the European Parliament adopted a resolution on the Holocaust which included the persecution of homosexuals.

And here is the disgusting, stupid, but also hilarious in a sad, sad way, 'conservapedia' entry on that.

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

41 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:17:36pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

The moral of this 2010 election is to be careful who you nominate. Note that Marco Rubio is very conservative, but he also had the poise and campaigning skill to win. By contrast, Christine O'Donnell won the nomination because the GOP base voted "not liberal" without reference to whether their preferred nominee was electable. Republicans need to take that lesson to heart:

Nominating conservatives is a good idea, but you need to make sure that they really capable of winning. Don't fall prey to wishful thinking, the voters tend not to elect weirdos of questionable background.

Marco Rubio also had a three way election in his favor Dark....

42 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:18:14pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

The moral of this 2010 election is to be careful who you nominate. Note that Marco Rubio is very conservative, but he also had the poise and campaigning skill to win. By contrast, Christine O'Donnell won the nomination because the GOP base voted "not liberal" without reference to whether their preferred nominee was electable. Republicans need to take that lesson to heart:

Nominating conservatives is a good idea, but you need to make sure that they really capable of winning. Don't fall prey to wishful thinking, the voters tend not to elect weirdos of questionable background.

Also replace "you need to be sure they are really capable of winning" with "really capable of governoning/leading our nation"

43 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:18:29pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

The moral of this 2010 election is to be careful who you nominate. Note that Marco Rubio is very conservative, but he also had the poise and campaigning skill to win. By contrast, Christine O'Donnell won the nomination because the GOP base voted "not liberal" without reference to whether their preferred nominee was electable. Republicans need to take that lesson to heart:

Nominating conservatives is a good idea, but you need to make sure that they really capable of winning. Don't fall prey to wishful thinking, the voters tend not to elect weirdos of questionable background.

Rubio was also helped by the "facts on the ground", shall we say. But his acceptance speech seemed to be by far the most poised. Even if his sums don't add up for the debt.

44 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:18:49pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Hey Dark. Read this and thought of you.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

Made me respect Kirk more.

45 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:19:17pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Oh, I easily agree with that. HOnestly, my big problem is when groups like those I mentioned use the fact that some Nazis like Ernst Rohm were gay and use it as a reason that we should be intolerant to gays. Using that logic we should persecute Catholics and Lutherans because many Nazis were that too. Of course the real infuriating thing about doing that to me is it misses the lessons of regimes like the Nazis which is not to persecute people simply because they're different. I get real offended when I see gay rights activists compared to the Nazis. It's outrageous considering these people simply want the same rights as I do.

And the dishonesty of using Nazis like Rohm is severe, since "The Pink Swastika" associates homosexuality with the Holocaust, when in fact the homosexual members of the Nazi SA had been purged and killed in 1935. The book is utter bunk and relies on the historical ignorance of its readers for its effect.

46 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:19:36pm

While we're on the subject of homophobia, did anybody see the movie "Death at a Funeral"? This alleged "comedy" contains a "hilarious" scene in which a group of Black men forcibly drug and beat a gay man.

47 MinisterO  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:20:30pm

re: #20 jamesfirecat

Did the person who was said gay marraige would lead to people getting engaged to tables win their election?

If a person were to marry a table they could file a joint tax return. The other taxpayers would be subsidizing these mensansexuals. Outrageous.

48 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:21:20pm

re: #41 jamesfirecat

Marco Rubio also had a three way election in his favor Dark...

True, but he would have beaten Meek head to head, and would have had a good chance against Crist. He has skills, and he campaigned hard and well. IT was not just circumstance that got him the win.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:21:27pm

re: #40 Obdicut

This conservative says "Fuck Conservapedia!" It's a Fundiepedia, and nothing more.

50 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:21:47pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

The moral of this 2010 election is to be careful who you nominate. Note that Marco Rubio is very conservative, but he also had the poise and campaigning skill to win. By contrast, Christine O'Donnell won the nomination because the GOP base voted "not liberal" without reference to whether their preferred nominee was electable. Republicans need to take that lesson to heart:

Nominating conservatives is a good idea, but you need to make sure that they really capable of winning. Don't fall prey to wishful thinking, the voters tend not to elect weirdos of questionable background.

And, i've said it before and i'll say it again - nominate candidates who can win. I don't think a strict cultural conservative could win Delaware - or even a strict slash and burn economic conservative. Only moderates win in Delaware.
Pick candidates to win districts. The democrats learned that lesson and Howard Dean implemented a 50 state stratergy while he was in the DNC.

51 Gus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:21:59pm

Back later.

52 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:22:08pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

And the dishonesty of using Nazis like Rohm is severe, since "The Pink Swastika" associates homosexuality with the Holocaust, when in fact the homosexual members of the Nazi SA had been purged and killed in 1935. The book is utter bunk and relies on the historical ignorance of its readers for its effect.


It's pathetic really. It reminds me of hte people who insist that Nazism was left wing but forget to mention that the Nazis' biggest enemies were groups on the left like the social democrats, communists, trade unionists, etc. And the fact that the party's left wing was heavily purged during that same time frame you're talking about with the SA. Shit even if Hitler was gay it still would be wrong to go after people for being gay. I don't see anyone gay people out there who suggest because so and so dictator was straight that all straight people are evil.

53 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:22:46pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

True, but he would have beaten Meek head to head, and would have had a good chance against Crist. He has skills, and he campaigned hard and well. IT was not just circumstance that got him the win.

Speaking of elections who won in the race to come in third between the dem machine candidate and the creationist you were going to vote for?

54 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:23:29pm

re: #44 Obdicut

Hey Dark. Read this and thought of you.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

Made me respect Kirk more.

At the Billy Goat, no less. I sometimes eat there myself nowadays. Those two meeting there was a nice touch.

55 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:25:27pm

The real lesson to me is to understand your state and electorate. A guy like Mike Castle wins in Delaware because he's able to appeal across the spectrum. There's a reason he had been elected governor and congressman there even though Delaware has gone Democratic in every presidential election since Bill Clinton's first win and has 2 Dem senators. You have to understand your region and not just be thinking about your base which is exactly what Palin and DeMint were doing when they kingmaked all these crazy candidates we came to know and love.

56 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:26:57pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

Speaking of elections who won in the race to come in third between the dem machine candidate and the creationist you were going to vote for?

I don't know. Half of Scott Lee Cohen's support ended up going to Pat Quinn. Those votes give Quinn the best shot winning the gubernatorial election (its close enough we may not know for a few days). However, the ex-Cohen voters only went against Brady en masse, many of them split their tickets to vote for Mark Kirk.

57 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:27:02pm

The most frothing nutcases of the Tea Party thankfully lost (Buck, Angle, O'Donnell, and hopefully Miller).

But dammit - Feingold lost to their first of kin (Johnson).

Russ Feingold - the only Senator with the balls to vote against both the disastrous Iraq War and the Patriot Spy Act is headed out.

Russ - we don't deserve you.

58 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:27:25pm

re: #44 Obdicut

Hey Dark. Read this and thought of you.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

Made me respect Kirk more.

Wow that kinda of thing is so rare to see these days. Good on both guys for being classy and realizing that to disagree is not to be enemies.

59 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:29:03pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Though I do wish they could have managed that civility during the campaign, rather than just after it.

60 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:29:33pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

I don't know. Half of Scott Lee Cohen's support ended up going to Pat Quinn. Those votes give Quinn the best shot winning the gubernatorial election (its close enough we may not know for a few days). However, the ex-Cohen voters only went against Brady en masse, many of them split their tickets to vote for Mark Kirk.

I bet you can't wait to find out who won, like finding out if that thing out thought was a candy bar was s*** or just plain mud.

(I'm saying both sides should have run better candidates)

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:29:46pm

This conservative is also sick of hearing from other 'conservatives' that prayer in school, creationism in science class, being anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-science, and anti-separation of church and state are 'conservative values'.

They are not. They are fascist, theocratic values, and nothing more.

62 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:29:55pm

Well my one friend from Illinois was telling me over dinner the other night that Kirk wasn't so bad, not her choice but something she could take. Brady was definitely frustrating to her since the candidate he beat apparently was more closer to Kirk and sanity.

63 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:29:58pm

OT, but not really:

Scientists discover that Ozzy is a mutant. Apparently his superpower is tolerance for drugs and alcohol.

A study of the hard-partying rocker revealed he actually has several genetic mutations that may explain how he's lived so long, scientists say.

Some of them "we've never seen before," said geneticist Nathaniel Pearson, who was part of the team that sequenced Osbourne's DNA for Massachusetts lab Knome Inc.

"I've always said that at the end of the world there will be roaches, Ozzy and Keith Richards," the Prince of Darkness' wife Sharon Osbourne said.

"He's going to outlive us all. That fascinated me - how can his body endure so much."

The 61-year-old "Black Sabbath" singer is as famous for his colossal intake as he is for his voice. He once said he did LSD every day for two years and he drank booze like water.

No surprisingly, many of the anomalies scientists discovered had to do with how he processes drugs and alcohol.

64 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:30:11pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

As a liberal I say Rubio is as polished and media savvy a young Republican as I have ever seen.

65 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:30:22pm

Murkowski needs to get 83.85% of the write-in ballots to be accrued to her, in order to beat Miller.

Will it happen?

66 SpaceJesus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:30:43pm

love boulder so much

67 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:31:25pm

re: #65 freetoken

Murkowski needs to get 83.85% of the write-in ballots to be accrued to her, in order to beat Miller.

Will it happen?

Don't count out Mickey Mouse :).

68 ozbloke  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:31:33pm

re: #63 negativ

OT, but not really:

Scientists discover that Ozzy is a mutant. Apparently his superpower is tolerance for drugs and alcohol.

Its the gene from selling your soul to the debil.

69 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:31:39pm

re: #65 freetoken

Murkowski needs to get 83.85% of the write-in ballots to be accrued to her, in order to beat Miller.

Will it happen?

Time will tell!
*waves to all*

70 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:31:58pm

re: #63 negativ

Ozzy - the future of Human evolution?

71 alexknyc  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:31:59pm

re: #65 freetoken

Murkowski needs to get 83.85% of the write-in ballots to be accrued to her, in order to beat Miller.

Will it happen?

I think more than 83.85% of the write-in votes were for her.

The question is how many of them will count?

72 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:32:20pm

re: #57 Linden Arden

The most frothing nutcases of the Tea Party thankfully lost (Buck, Angle, O'Donnell, and hopefully Miller).

Don't forget Carl "Baseball Bat" Paladino.

73 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:32:23pm

re: #66 SpaceJesus

love boulder so much

excellent coffee, excellent beer, excellent scenery and awesome people,

I loved every minute there.

74 redbird250  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:32:31pm

re: #6 engineer dog

If true, shouldn't the left support the teabaggers to aid in the destruction of the GOP?

75 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:33:14pm

re: #74 redbird250

I'm hoping Palin is nominated for 2012. It will be hilarious.

76 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:33:35pm

re: #44 Obdicut

Hey Dark. Read this and thought of you.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

Made me respect Kirk more.

Nice!
Would that more of our politicians were so generous!
Assuming he follows through with his words.

77 SpaceJesus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:34:07pm

re: #73 wozzablog

also excellent tea as my friend who lives there showed me last time i was up

78 alexknyc  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:34:32pm

re: #74 redbird250

If true, shouldn't the left support the teabaggers to aid in the destruction of the GOP?

I don't see how, in a two-party system, the complete destruction of one party as a viable choice is a good thing.

79 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:34:44pm

re: #75 freetoken

SNL might be funny again.

80 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:35:02pm

Have family in Boulder and a couple musician friends who used to be my camp conseulors way back when. Sounds like a fun place.

81 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:35:31pm

re: #75 freetoken

I'm hoping Palin is nominated for 2012. It will be hilarious.

I think she's a pretty safe bet. If the GOP establishment wants to sink her they better start now. I think it's already too late.

82 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:35:41pm

re: #74 redbird250

If true, shouldn't the left support the teabaggers to aid in the destruction of the GOP?

No.

Because by some natural design or something the worst of the teabaggers lost (I'm talking Senate).

Where Rubio and Pat Toomey have political sense in spades. No foot in the mouth disease for those two.

83 redbird250  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:35:46pm

re: #78 alexknyc

Two competing elements of one party can only result in the rise of the other

84 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:35:47pm

re: #57 Linden Arden

The most frothing nutcases of the Tea Party thankfully lost (Buck, Angle, O'Donnell, and hopefully Miller).

But dammit - Feingold lost to their first of kin (Johnson).

Russ Feingold - the only Senator with the balls to vote against both the disastrous Iraq War and the Patriot Spy Act is headed out.

Russ - we don't deserve you.

Feingold got caught in a GOP congressional flood tide in the Great Lakes region. The Dems suffered losses from Pennsylvania to Minnesota.

85 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:35:53pm

re: #78 alexknyc

I don't see how, in a two-party system, the complete destruction of one party as a viable choice is a good thing.

Its a good thing if it leads to the destruction of a party that can no longer function for any purpose besides winning elections.

The GOP's time may be up and we would instead get a new party made up of fiscal conservatives and blue dog democrats, with the actual progressives getting their own real party...

Or we may see some kind of three way split (yeah right)

86 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:37:13pm

re: #75 freetoken

I'm hoping Palin is nominated for 2012. It will be hilarious.

The Zionist Lords of Remulak, will hopefully intervene.
Or, anyone else!
Can you imagine?

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:37:17pm

re: #78 alexknyc

I don't see how, in a two-party system, the complete destruction of one party as a viable choice is a good thing.

I'm rooting for a phoenix type moment. Out of the ashes of the GOP arises a conservative movement that refuses to have anything to do with shoving a religious perspective down everyone else's throats.

/I can dream, can't I?

88 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:37:37pm

Dan Quayle's son won. Comedy writers rejoice.

89 redbird250  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:37:55pm

re: #85 jamesfirecat

Canada has 2 competing leftwing parties, and as a result, has a conservative minority government.

90 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:38:18pm

Mashed sweet potatoes and sage. Very nice flavor combination.

91 alexknyc  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:38:28pm

re: #85 jamesfirecat

Its a good thing if it leads to the destruction of a party that can no longer function for any purpose besides winning elections.

The GOP's time may be up and we would instead get a new party made up of fiscal conservatives and blue dog democrats, with the actual progressives getting their own real party...

Or we may see some kind of three way split (yeah right)

A new party of fiscal conservatives and social liberals would be just what I'm looking for. If the GOP splinters into something resembling that, I'd be ok with it.

Unfortunately, we may have to go through hell to get there.

92 SpaceJesus  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:38:41pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

potatos?

93 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:39:00pm

Jan Brewer releected despite insane debate meltdown.

94 alexknyc  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:39:05pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm rooting for a phoenix type moment. Out of the ashes of the GOP arises a conservative movement that refuses to have anything to do with shoving a religious perspective down everyone else's throats.

/I can dream, can't I?

I think I'm right there with you on that dream.

95 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:39:13pm

ACORN!!!
;)

96 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:39:14pm

re: #92 SpaceJesus

potatos?

Quailified!

97 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:39:51pm

re: #93 Charles

Jan Brewer releected despite insane debate meltdown.

humbug

98 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:39:55pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Mashed sweet potatoes and sage. Very nice flavor combination.

I love baked sweet potatoes with just a little olive oil drizzled over them.

99 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:41:01pm

I see Allan West whose supporters bullied a Dem campaign staffer won in Florida too. That's too bad.

100 redbird250  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:41:10pm

re: #93 Charles

Jan could have used a teleprompter that night

101 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:42:05pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Mashed sweet potatoes and sage. Very nice flavor combination.

Mmmm, sounds Thanksgiving-y.

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:44:18pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Mashed sweet potatoes and sage. Very nice flavor combination.

Do you have a link to a good recipe for that? (No, I can not afford the cookbook) I plan on doing that for TG instead of mashed tatters AND sweet tatters.

103 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:44:54pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Mashed sweet potatoes and sage. Very nice flavor combination.

Cranberries are also tasty with sweet potatoes. Even sweeter!

104 Digital Display  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:46:05pm

good evening Lizards...Another long day at work

105 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:46:05pm

Now I'm hungry...

106 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:46:30pm

Texastan Republican Ralph Hall (who is, I believe, the senior rep from TX), made a statement today:

Hall Claims Science Panel, Vows 'Strong Oversight' on 'Climate Change, Scientific Integrity'

"Nationally, I am heartened that Americans returned Republicans to the majority in hopes of providing a check on runaway spending in Washington and getting the economy back on track toward growth and job creation. I look forward to working with current members on the Science and Technology Committee, as well as hearing from our new members, to formulate and advance an agenda that keeps our nation moving forward. The Science and Technology Committee will be a place where every member's ideas will be respected and considered, and all Republicans can play a role in crafting good science policy.

"We must also conduct strong oversight over this Administration in key areas including climate change, scientific integrity, energy research and development (R&D), cybersecurity, and science education. Over the past few years the unprecedented growth of the Federal government and the creation of multiple new and duplicative programs occurred without having first assessed the effectiveness and success of existing programs.

"My goal is to ensure science policy drives innovation and thereby the American economy. Federal investment in R&D must empower the free market, not interfere in it."

So it looks like he is going to carry out Issa's request for the great inquisition of climatology. Hall is noted for being part of the group with Sensenbrenner and old Joe Barton for leading the cause against dealing with these types of environmental issues.

According to SourceWatch:

Ralph Hall has received $78,199 in oil contributions during the 110th congress. $53,999 of those dollars were from industry PACS. In total, Hall has accepted $307,930 from oil companies between 2000 and 2008, which makes him one of the largest recipients of oil money.

107 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:46:36pm

re: #92 SpaceJesus

What's tatters, precious?

108 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:46:48pm

re: #102 Slumbering Behemoth

Do you have a link to a good recipe for that? (No, I can not afford the cookbook) I plan on doing that for TG instead of mashed tatters AND sweet tatters.

Good FREE recipe site:
[Link: www.melindalee.com...]

109 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:48:12pm

All this talk of good food involving potatoes is making me really hungry. Going to the school food court in a little bit to get something it's just not the same. I did go out to eat at a really delicious German place in Georgestown last week though. Best wienerschnitzel I've ever had and I've been to Germany and Austria too.

110 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:48:18pm

re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth

What's tatters, precious?

Boil em, mash em, stickem in a stew....

111 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:48:41pm

re: #104 HoosierHoops

Another long political day.
Hi You!

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:50:31pm

re: #108 Floral Giraffe

Not seeing one for mashed sweet tatters, though.

Fine! I'll just google it myself. :[
/

113 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:51:37pm

re: #106 freetoken

Joe Barton is the most dangerous House member of all.

(for people anyway).

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:52:46pm

re: #106 freetoken


"We must also conduct strong oversight over this Administration in key areas including climate change, scientific integrity, energy research and development (R&D), cybersecurity, and science education."

I wish this meant something positive. Unfortunately, I'm sure this person is in a backward looking position here.

115 brookly red  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:52:48pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

Now I'm hungry...

the blood bank closed at 5:00. deal wit it

116 Digital Display  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:53:27pm

re: #111 Floral Giraffe

Another long political day.
Hi You!

Hi you..Looks like the GOP took the house..Not really surprising given such poison in the debate this season

117 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:53:28pm

re: #93 Charles

Jan Brewer releected despite insane debate meltdown.

"Jump Start Arizona's Future!"

118 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:53:30pm

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Recipe archives on the left...
[Link: www.melindalee.com...]

119 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:53:47pm

re: #115 brookly red

the blood bank closed at 5:00. deal wit it

[snicker]

120 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:53:57pm

I put it up in a Page:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

121 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:54:12pm

re: #27 brookly red

Flash must die!

Flash - ahhhhh - king of the impossible
He's for ev'ry one of us
Stand for ev'ry one of us
He'll save with a mighty hand
Ev'ry man ev'ry woman ev'ry child
And the mighty Flash!

122 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:54:34pm

re: #27 brookly red

Shockwave Flash crashed again... WTF does Flash have do do with this? I curse these parasites... forget smaller gubermint, I want smaller internet! Flash must die!

This times infinity. But whatever replaces it must be an open standard. That especially means no MS Silverlight, specifically for this reason.

123 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:54:39pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

[snicker]

You have candy bar?!?!
/

124 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:55:34pm

brookly, are you running firefox?

125 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:55:54pm

re: #106 freetoken

Every time I see "Texastan" it slays me. I spent most of last night decoding the native language for print advertising. If I could put "I am fluent in Texas" or "I can read and decode seven dialects of fundie" on my resume, I'd be on to something. Year after year, the hits just keep on coming.

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:56:06pm

re: #118 Floral Giraffe

You're so sweet, gimme a kiss!

I'm looking for something more savory though, not candied. I'll find something, no need for you to do the searching for me, though it's kind of you to hook me up with that site. Looks like there is good stuff there.

127 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:56:10pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

I think 2012 is going to be even more poisonous.
Do the politicians not GET that they frighten the general voters?
I guess not.
SIGH.

128 brookly red  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:57:21pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

brookly, are you running firefox?

not actively...

SWF just comes & goes at it's fancy... God (yes really) I hate windows.

129 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:57:26pm

re: #125 theheat

If I could put "I am fluent in Texas"...

The language is called "Texastani".

130 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:57:41pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

She was a caterer for 10 years or more.
Runs a weekend talk show here in LA.
Very good recipe source.

131 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:57:43pm

re: #123 Varek Raith

You have candy bar?!?!
/

SMACK!

132 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:57:51pm

re: #125 theheat

Hey, I think I found your house!

133 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:58:33pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

I wish this meant something positive. Unfortunately, I'm sure this person is in a backward looking position here.

Hall has a multiple term history of working to delay/obfuscate/deny anything that might upset his Petroleum sugar-daddies.

134 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:58:37pm

I had some of these at the City Tavern when I was in Philadelphia last spring. OH MY GOODNESS!

Thomas Jefferson's Sweet Potato Biscuits

135 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 6:59:04pm

Hey all, evening.

Just returned from a potluck/community meeting.
One of the best potlucks I've ever been too. The food was all amazing and yummy.
Afterwards a couple of people got some guitars out and sung some great classic songs which most people knew and sung along with as well. It's been a long time since I've been to something like this. I'd forgotten how fun it can be.
Hands down best part of the evening was when an 80+ year old gentleman sung his heart into Leonard Cohen's 'Hallelujah' with everyone joining in.

It was spine tingly it was so beautiful.

136 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:00:32pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

You're so sweet, gimme a kiss!

I'm looking for something more savory though, not candied. I'll find something, no need for you to do the searching for me, though it's kind of you to hook me up with that site. Looks like there is good stuff there.

Here's my Galilee Sweet Potatoes recipe from the cookbook.

4 large sweet potatoes, scrubbed and split
1/4 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. popper
1/2 tsp. chopped fresh rosemary
1 Tbsp extra virgin olive oil

Preheat oven to 375. Rub sweet potatoes with salt, pepper and rosemary and place in baking dish. Drizzle with olive oil. Bake for 45 min. Serves 8 as a side.

137 darthstar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:00:58pm

re: #134 SteveC

I had some of these at the City Tavern when I was in Philadelphia last spring. OH MY GOODNESS!

Thomas Jefferson's Sweet Potato Biscuits

Those biscuits are taken out of context.
/Sharron Angle

138 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:01:32pm

re: #137 darthstar

Those biscuits are taken out of context.
/Sharron Angle

O'Donnell disapproves.
/

139 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:01:36pm

re: #102 Slumbering Behemoth

Do you have a link to a good recipe for that? (No, I can not afford the cookbook) I plan on doing that for TG instead of mashed tatters AND sweet tatters.


Potato, My Sweet

Youtube Video

You can skip to about 7:00 for the basic idea. Tonight I just did them with butter, some sauteed onions and fresh sage. Very easy. No added sugar, no marshmallows.
/Like the hat?

140 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:01:38pm

re: #137 darthstar

Those biscuits are taken out of context.
/Sharron Angle

Be that way! More for me!

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:01:43pm

re: #136 Alouette

*smooch*

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:02:38pm

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Thanks, bro! Not giving you a kiss, though. High five cool?

143 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:03:02pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm floored. How wonderful. All that's missing are the shadowy shamblers. But I still give it a 10.

And mine will be decorated for Halloween until January 01, 2011.

144 brookly red  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:03:02pm

re: #136 Alouette

Here's my Galilee Sweet Potatoes recipe from the cookbook.

4 large sweet potatoes, scrubbed and split
1/4 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. popper
1/2 tsp. chopped fresh rosemary
1 Tbsp extra virgin olive oil

Preheat oven to 375. Rub sweet potatoes with salt, pepper and rosemary and place in baking dish. Drizzle with olive oil. Bake for 45 min. Serves 8 as a side.

you put amil-nitrate on yams??

145 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:03:05pm

re: #106 freetoken

Hall is from Rockwall, which is the Texastani equivalent of Waziristan.

While Hall was very conservative even by Texas Democratic standards, his conservatism can be attributed to the demographics of the 4th District. It had once been reliably Democratic, but became increasingly friendly to Republicans as Dallas' suburban growth reached into the western portion of the district (for instance, Rockwall County includes a small portion of Dallas itself) and areas such as Tyler broke away from their Democratic roots. The 4th has not supported a Democrat for president since 1964.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
146 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:04:13pm

More ideas and recipes from George Washington Carver (the peanut guy)
How the Farmer Can Save His Sweet Potatoes and Ways of Preparing Them for the Table

147 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:04:14pm

re: #139 Killgore Trout

No marshmallows is good.

148 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:04:35pm

re: #129 freetoken

"Oh, bless your heart."

149 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:04:56pm

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks, bro! Not giving you a kiss, though. High five cool?

Terrorist fist bump!

150 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:05:10pm

re: #143 theheat

And mine will be decorated for Halloween until January 01, 2011.

Good on ya! No surrender in the face of the War on Halloween! Do keep us updated on any developments.

151 webevintage  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:05:28pm

South Park and Cthulhu....

"Praise the dark Cthulhu. Long may he reign."

152 Interesting Times  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:05:41pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

Hi you..Looks like the GOP took the house..Not really surprising given such poison in the debate this season

Speaking of poison, there was some discussion in earlier threads about how the most jubilation about the election results could be found on white supremacist sites. After donning virtual waders and drudging through the Stormfront sewers, I can confirm that's true:

The one positive thing about this election is the Tea Party movement. While it's true the Republican Party isn't good for much aside from lowering taxes, the Tea Party is running people who support the Constitution and who are a lot more serious about the illegal alien problem. Other interesting points are:

1).The Tea Party is successfully hijacking the Republican Party at the grass roots level. (This has obvious positive implications for any future pro-White candidates.)

2).The Tea Party candidates are doing well in the polls despite months of attacks by the Jewish media. Almost every embarrassing thing the Jews could dig up on these candidates has been put on the news while other candidates like Barney Frank, who previously had a Gay partner running a brothel, get little to no criticism.

3).Many people are finally realizing that mainstream Republicans are little better than Democrats. A lot of hack Republicans were defeated in the primaries, where people need to focus their attention. This is extremely encouraging. Senators Arlen Specter and Bob Bennett both lost their primaries. Both of them voted for Amnesty. John McCain nearly lost his primary. McCain had to spend $21 million and pretend to be Tom Tancredo to survive his primary challenge.

While we're still a way off from getting openly pro-White candidates elected, we're definitely moving in the right direction.

When people like this think you're moving in the "right direction", it might just be time to reconsider what your movement represents...

153 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:07:03pm

re: #136 Alouette

Here's my Galilee Sweet Potatoes recipe from the cookbook.

4 large sweet potatoes, scrubbed and split
1/4 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. popper
1/2 tsp. chopped fresh rosemary
1 Tbsp extra virgin olive oil

Preheat oven to 375. Rub sweet potatoes with salt, pepper and rosemary and place in baking dish. Drizzle with olive oil. Bake for 45 min. Serves 8 as a side.

I've been meaning to try these... the only thing I'd add is a little chopped garlic on them.

154 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:07:25pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

More ideas and recipes from George Washington Carver (the peanut guy)
How the Farmer Can Save His Sweet Potatoes and Ways of Preparing Them for the Table

That guy is one of my favorite inventors, along with John Montagu and Raffaele Esposito.

155 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:07:36pm

re: #129 freetoken

The language is called "Texastani".

No, no, no. It's Texican.

156 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:08:36pm

re: #152 publicityStunted

Speaking of poison, there was some discussion in earlier threads about how the most jubilation about the election results could be found on white supremacist sites. After donning virtual waders and drudging through the Stormfront sewers, I can confirm that's true:

When people like this think you're moving in the "right direction", it might just be time to reconsider what your movement represents...

I'd like to join a club, and beat these people over the head with it...

157 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:09:18pm

re: #156 jamesfirecat

I'd like to join a club, and beat these people over the head with it...

Quite Concur.

158 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:09:20pm

re: #148 theheat

"Oh, bless your heart."

That's the Southern curse-canceling phrase. You can say anything you want about someone, but just add those three words and all is well. Say "bless her little heart" and it becomes a compliment!

"Jane? Jane Doe? That little no good man stealing, leg spreading, lie telling, disease ridden, football hatin'.... person! Can't stand the sight of her, bless her little heart!"

159 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:09:32pm

re: #152 publicityStunted

Yowza

160 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:10:39pm

re: #158 SteveC

LOL! So very true!
Bless your heart!
//

161 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:11:38pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

That guy is one of my favorite inventors, along with John Montagu and Raffaele Esposito.

I'm becoming more curious about real American food culture, we lost everything in the 50's with frozen meals, canned food and burger chains. I suspect we have a much better food culture waiting to be rediscovered.

162 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:12:13pm

re: #160 Floral Giraffe

LOL! So very true!
Bless your heart!
//

Lady in my church always says "Bless your heart!" I thank her, it can use all the help it can get! :)

163 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:12:56pm

re: #158 SteveC

That's the Southern curse-canceling phrase. You can say anything you want about someone, but just add those three words and all is well. Say "bless her little heart" and it becomes a compliment!

"Jane? Jane Doe? That little no good man stealing, leg spreading, lie telling, disease ridden, football hatin'... person! Can't stand the sight of her, bless her little heart!"

Is that where it comes from? Neat. I had a great aunt and she would always say that at the end of complaining or gossiping about someone.

164 brookly red  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:13:50pm

re: #156 jamesfirecat

I'd like to join a club, and beat these people over the head with it...

I always get confused... beating these people is righteous & beating those people is racist. Or is it the other way around?

165 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:15:05pm

I'm gonna wait for some peer review on this, but I still think it's funny that the Serpent of Eden may have achieved immaculate conception.

A female boa constrictor snake has given birth to two litters of extraordinary offspring.

Evidence suggests the mother snake has had multiple virgin births, producing 22 baby snakes that have no father.

More than that, the genetic make-up of the baby snakes is unlike any previously recorded among vertebrates, the group which includes almost all animals with a backbone.

Details are published in the Royal Society journal Biology Letters.

166 Interesting Times  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:15:30pm

re: #159 WindUpBird

And the truly scary part? Take out the words "Jewish" and "Jews", replace "pro-White" with a dogwhistle like "pro-State's Rights", and you get something that would appear - with complete impunity and to high praise - on any mainstream right-wing blog.

167 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:15:50pm

re: #164 brookly red

I always get confused... beating these people is righteous & beating those people is racist. Or is it the other way around?

Beat 'em all, let Rand Paul sort 'em out.

168 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:15:54pm

re: #150 Slumbering Behemoth

My orange lights blaze in the face of Christmas, and the howls of my ghouls shall drown out the din of carolers.

169 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:17:16pm

re: #161 Killgore Trout

I'm becoming more curious about real American food culture, we lost everything in the 50's with frozen meals, canned food and burger chains. I suspect we have a much better food culture waiting to be rediscovered.

I'm on a one man campaign in my house. I love good food, hate fast food, but I've never been married and always been too broke to engage in 'fine dining' out. So I've had to learn to 'gourmet' cook for myself.

Healthy, fresh ingredients are paramount. Sadly I have a brown thumb, but I do live in the Breadbasket to the World, so farm fresh fruits and vegetables are easy to obtain.

170 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:17:17pm

re: #151 webevintage

South Park and Cthulhu...

"Praise the dark Cthulhu. Long may he reign."

Do not get me started on how I think that Sarah Palin is a love slave to the cult of the "old gods" who has snogged a shoggath!

The stalkers hate it when I talk about how the vapid 1000 yard stare she has can only come from the madness of the knowledge of such things. Apparently, from her hypnotized look, Bachmann banged a shoggoth too...

171 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:18:50pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

Do not get me started on how I think that Sarah Palin is a love slave to the cult of the "old gods" who has snogged a shoggath!

The stalkers hate it when I talk about how the vapid 1000 yard stare she has can only come from the madness of the knowledge of such things. Apparently, from her hypnotized look, Bachmann banged a shoggoth too...

Did they try to sneak on here last night? I wasn't online till late.

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:19:17pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

Bite your tongue, sir! My cultists are made of better stuff than that buffoon!
/

173 brookly red  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:19:45pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

Do not get me started on how I think that Sarah Palin is a love slave to the cult of the "old gods" who has snogged a shoggath!

The stalkers hate it when I talk about how the vapid 1000 yard stare she has can only come from the madness of the knowledge of such things. Apparently, from her hypnotized look, Bachmann banged a shoggoth too...

and I gather my papers and smile at the sky, cause I know that the hypnotized never lie... do you?

like that.

174 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:20:03pm

I added parts of a speech of Congressman Hall's to that Inquisition Page. The speech is pretty much cut and paste from any Cato/Heritage/Koch website, full of idiocies.

LVQ - watch your funding!

175 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:21:23pm

re: #174 freetoken

I added parts of a speech of Congressman Hall's to that Inquisition Page. The speech is pretty much cut and paste from any Cato/Heritage/Koch website, full of idiocies.

LVQ - watch your funding!

Yeah, no doubt. Much will depend on the president.

176 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:23:10pm

re: #175 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, no doubt. Much will depend on the president.

He already threw in the towel on this one, today.

177 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:23:41pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

Anything that upsets the stalkerz is good news.
Tiny minds, could use some expanding!

178 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:24:53pm

We all know where Bachmann gets her talking points.

Youtube Video
179 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:24:56pm

re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm on a one man campaign in my house. I love good food, hate fast food, but I've never been married and always been too broke to engage in 'fine dining' out. So I've had to learn to 'gourmet' cook for myself.

Healthy, fresh ingredients are paramount. Sadly I have a brown thumb, but I do live in the Breadbasket to the World, so farm fresh fruits and vegetables are easy to obtain.

Good food doesn't even have to be that complex or hard to make. Gourmet smourmet. I think once people realize that it's off to the races. (Although I do enjoy the occasional night out at a finer dining restaurant)

At first I thought I had more grand plans for my potluck dish and was making a shopping list. Then I thought no screw this I'm going to make something easy and cheap with what I had on hand. So I mashed some potatoes with butter and chicken stock, sauted some onions and garlic and mixed it in and finished it off with a bit of salt, pepper and dill.

Simple, not too fancy and it tasted great. I wish there had been some left to bring home. :(

180 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:25:17pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

They got to meet Stinky & Charles ban stick, pretty quickly.

181 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:26:13pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

Do not get me started on how I think that Sarah Palin is a love slave to the cult of the "old gods" who has snogged a shoggath!

Are you the Keymaster?

182 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:26:38pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

Congrats re: Kirk. I've got to mail my uncle $10 bucks.

183 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:26:41pm

re: #179 Jadespring

You could make it again.
It'll be better the second time!
Potato leftovers make great pancakes....

184 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:30:21pm

Looks like the Republicans will try to lock down their advantage in the next few years by doing some redistricting:
[Link: ballotpedia.org...]

185 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:30:41pm

re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm on a one man campaign in my house. I love good food, hate fast food, but I've never been married and always been too broke to engage in 'fine dining' out. So I've had to learn to 'gourmet' cook for myself.

Healthy, fresh ingredients are paramount. Sadly I have a brown thumb, but I do live in the Breadbasket to the World, so farm fresh fruits and vegetables are easy to obtain.

I'm the same way, too poor for fine dining and I kinda doubt I'd eat in fancy places even if I could afford to. I do a better job at home than any restaurant I can afford anyways.

186 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:30:56pm

re: #179 Jadespring

Good food doesn't even have to be that complex or hard to make. Gourmet smourmet.(

One of the best dishes I make is a cheese dip. Block of Velveeta into a bowl, microwave until it melts. Stir in a can of tomatoes and some peppers. Bing, bam, boom, done!

Every now and again I get that mad scientist look in my eyes and I'll toss in something that isn't 'maters or peppers.

187 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:31:13pm

My TV table was looking so empty and forlorn, so I put a Tanakh (Bible) on it.

Steal that, bitches!

/still seething.

188 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:32:14pm

re: #152 publicityStunted

Yeah - perhaps people should notice that the Nazis consider the teabags a Nazi movement and stop arguing with me about this.

189 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:32:53pm

re: #176 freetoken

He already threw in the towel on this one, today.

damn.

And Obama shows yet again that he is no particular fighter.

190 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:33:39pm

re: #181 SteveC

Are you the Keymaster?

Miss S. is not a dog....

191 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:33:46pm

re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote

And Obama shows yet again that he is no particular fighter.

He's a lover, not a fighter.

192 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:33:51pm

re: #186 SteveC

I'm embarrassed to admit as a vegetarian, that is one of my favorite indulgences. The Velveeta and peppers and tomatoes microwave trick is one of the all time best. Total decadence.

193 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:34:42pm

re: #183 Floral Giraffe

You could make it again.
It'll be better the second time!
Potato leftovers make great pancakes...

I will. Though tomorrow I have to use up some leeks so I'm going to make a batch of potato and leek soup. It's my fall and winter favorite.

Here's my recipe if anyone is interested.

Chop up 2 to 3 big leeks. Saute until tender. Add a bit of water to cover and simmer.
Cook 3-6 potatoes in a pot of chicken stock. I usually just use a litre(quart). If more just increase potatoes.
When potatoes are cooked dump in the leeks.

I use a hand blender and just puree it right in the pot until it's smooth.
If I have some sour cream on hand I'll add a few glops until it looks right.

Season with salt and pepper to taste.

Enjoy!

194 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:35:53pm

re: #181 SteveC

Are you the Keymaster?


No, but when they made a cartoon out of the Ghostbusters, Cthulhu was the antagonist in one of the episodes. Even a shoggath made an appearance.

195 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:36:17pm

re: #106 freetoken

Texastan Republican Ralph Hall (who is, I believe, the senior rep from TX), made a statement today:

Hall Claims Science Panel, Vows 'Strong Oversight' on 'Climate Change, Scientific Integrity'

So it looks like he is going to carry out Issa's request for the great inquisition of climatology. Hall is noted for being part of the group with Sensenbrenner and old Joe Barton for leading the cause against dealing with these types of environmental issues.

According to SourceWatch:

Just to drive the point home, Isaiah said:

How the faithful city has become a harlot!... Your princes are rebellious and associates of thieves; each of them loves bribery and pursues payments. They do not render justice to the orphan, take up the grievance of the widow.

196 darthstar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:38:19pm

re: #191 freetoken

He's a lover, not a fighter.

America doesn't want an intelligent president. America wants assholes who say "Presidentin' is hard work!" and don't give a fuck what the rest of the world (or over half of the US population) thinks. Fuck us. We suck. We need someone who will take care of his friends and their personal finance pipelines so the rest of us can wait for 'trickle down'...Trickle down is our god. Please, send us your crumbs, upper class!

197 lostlakehiker  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:38:43pm
It’s becoming clear that in many of the most publicized high-profile races, voters definitively rejected the religious right extremists backed by the Tea Party movement and their corporate astroturf sponsors.

Well, yes. But from this follows another conclusion: the "Tea Party" stuff was not the heart and center of the political shift that saw so many sitting members of the House, and some in the Senate, defeated.
The "real" conservatives backed away from the TP cliff and stood aside to allow Dems to win, with the lamentable exception of Rand Paul and some lesser lights here and there.


Voters who do NOT subscribe to TP agenda are unhappy with the current course that Obama and his Congressional majority have plotted for the country.

198 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:39:03pm

The Stalkers are itching for a Secret Service visit, it seems:

Da_Beerfreak
1 | November 3, 2010 20:37

Remember, remember the Second of November,
The Midterm Elections and Democrat Fraud,
I know of no reason
Why the Democrat Fraud
Should ever be forgot.
Obama, Obama, t’was his intent
To blow up the Economy and Gov’ment.
Three-Trillion Dollar’s of new found Debt
To prove old Uncle Sam’s overthrow;
By God’s providence he was catch’d (or by God’s mercy*)
With a Long Form Birth Certificate and burning match.
Holla boys, Holla boys, let the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the United States!
And what should we do with him? Burn him!
reply | quote

So now its "If you don't get what you want with ballots, use bullets." Just like the Islamist they claim to oppose.

199 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:39:21pm

re: #186 SteveC

One of the best dishes I make is a cheese dip. Block of Velveeta into a bowl, microwave until it melts. Stir in a can of tomatoes and some peppers. Bing, bam, boom, done!

Every now and again I get that mad scientist look in my eyes and I'll toss in something that isn't 'maters or peppers.

Mmmm cheese. I lurvs cheese.

200 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:39:28pm

re: #190 LudwigVanQuixote

Miss S. is not a dog...

No, I wouldn't imagine that she was.
Tell her I said "Hi".

201 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:40:35pm

Hey Ludviggeleh, ma nishma habibi!

202 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:41:01pm

re: #197 lostlakehiker

Well, yes. But from this follows another conclusion: the "Tea Party" stuff was not the heart and center of the political shift that saw so many sitting members of the House, and some in the Senate, defeated.
The "real" conservatives backed away from the TP cliff and stood aside to allow Dems to win, with the lamentable exception of Rand Paul and some lesser lights here and there.

Voters who do NOT subscribe to TP agenda are unhappy with the current course that Obama and his Congressional majority have plotted for the country.

Quite Concur.

203 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:41:37pm

re: #186 SteveC

I think you are the poster who sent me to Benson's Seasonings?
If so, I must thank you wildly!
Very tasty! No salt or sugar!
Healthy & tasty are good things!

204 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:41:41pm

So one of the media's big questions all day has been: will the TP winners from last night go along with the establishment GOP, or buck their party and stand on principle?

I think this question makes a faulty assumption, namely that there are significant ideological differences between the TP on one hand, and the GOP establishment. The TP's main goal was to move the GOP to the right and make them stick to their small govt verbiage they've used for decades but hadn't necessarily lived up to.

And thus far the TP has gotten what they wanted. Since it's unlikely the GOP will push anything huge, transformative, controversial and ambitious like HCR, what potentially divisive legislative battles lie ahead between TP and regular GOP? I don't see any.

Furthermore, the TP has a lot of political neophytes who don't even know how DC works. They're hardly in a position to take on the powerful GOP leadership.

205 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:41:53pm

So, has anyone suggested that candidates like Buck, O'Donnell, and Angle lost because they weren't right wing enough yet? I've heard bitching abotu how the national GOP did not support those candidates enough but I want to hear a nutter say with a straight face that those three lost because they weren't right wing enough.

206 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:41:53pm

Evening Honcos.

207 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:41:58pm

re: #201 Alouette

I gotta say I'm really impressed by how up you are in spirits given the nastiness of the home intrusion, combined with the stress-- even if it's positive stress-- of interviews.

Impressive, and inspirational.

208 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:42:00pm

If you are on a low sodium diet, try this stuff:

Benson's Gourmet Seasonings

No salt, no sugar, and no MSG. No Potassium either, so if you are on Warfarin it won't screw up your anticoagulation levels.

209 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:42:54pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

So, has anyone suggested that candidates like Buck, O'Donnell, and Angle lost because they weren't right wing enough yet? I've heard bitching abotu how the national GOP did not support those candidates enough but I want to hear a nutter say with a straight face that those three lost because they weren't right wing enough.

I think Limbaugh did.

210 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:43:20pm

re: #209 Jadespring

Nah, he just blamed the GOP in general for not supporting 'em.

211 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:43:26pm

re: #209 Jadespring

I think Limbaugh did.

Or maybe that was about Whitman. I'm pretty sure he did say it about someone.

212 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:43:30pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

The Stalkers are itching for a Secret Service visit, it seems:

So now its "If you don't get what you want with ballots, use bullets." Just like the Islamist they claim to oppose.

Democratic voter fraud.

This can only mean one thing....

KAAAHHHNNNN ACCCOOOORRRNNNN!

213 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:44:09pm

re: #210 Obdicut

Nah, he just blamed the GOP in general for not supporting 'em.

Okay. Didn't he say that about someone though?

214 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:44:11pm

re: #209 Jadespring

I think Limbaugh did.

Sounds like something he'd say. I see someone posted something about Eric Erickson already talking about the need for more purges. What a ditz, their party clearly came up short of becoming the majority in the senate explicitly because tehy ran nuts and they think the answer is more nuts.

215 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:44:58pm

Floral, I was typing 208 as you were typing 203! :)

Benson's is great; I can have "salt" on my fries again!

216 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:45:36pm

re: #204 palomino

Quoting Ralph Hall:

"Nationally, I am heartened that Americans returned Republicans to the majority in hopes of providing a check on runaway spending in Washington and getting the economy back on track toward growth and job creation


Lots of room for pork maneuvering in that adjective.

217 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:45:40pm

Well the D's got their collective ass kicked in the House last night, but survived in the Senate. Interesting dynamic. Now the R's have to try to legislate in the House. Given that they have have been The Party of No in the House the last four years, it will be fascinating to see how Boehner tries to fashion real Legislation

218 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:46:16pm

re: #207 Obdicut

I gotta say I'm really impressed by how up you are in spirits given the nastiness of the home intrusion, combined with the stress-- even if it's positive stress-- of interviews.

Impressive, and inspirational.

The interview was great! Even if I don't get the job, I actually enjoyed that little chat. Also, the two interviewers were other women of my age, trying to find someone to replace their geek-of-all-trades who left for better pastures.

I have all the skills they are looking for, and we had a great conversation, there were no awkward or negative moments. So, still hoping.

219 Interesting Times  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:47:21pm

re: #188 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah - perhaps people should notice that the Nazis consider the teabags a Nazi movement and stop arguing with me about this.

I did uncover some items of comedy gold amongst the sewage, however:

Thanks largely to the Tea Party and Obama’s bungling, the Republicans have decisively taken over the House. This will block any future attempt at Amnesty or gun control by the Obama regime. Also the Republicans now will have the authority to INVESTIGATE Democrats including anything from where all that Stimulus money went, to handing out a subpoena for Barack Obama’s original birth certificate

Oh please do this, Blubbering Boehner, and call on high-caliber experts like Orly Taitz to testify :D

220 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:47:48pm

re: #217 austin_blue

In Boehner's speech last night he already threw the gauntlet down, saying it was the President's responsibility to come up with a budget.

(Not what it says in the Constitution, but who needs that old thing once elected, eh?)

Boehner has one game: make Obama look bad for 2012.

221 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:48:48pm

Since I just last morning beat Dawn of War 2, on Primarch mode again I think I'm gonna replay Freedom Force again, and try to only save in between missions...

I figure Minuet Man, Man O' War, Microwave and Eve are gonna be my go to party....

222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:49:40pm

This freakin' planet is cool.

223 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:50:42pm

re: #208 SteveC

If you are on a low sodium diet, try this stuff:

Benson's Gourmet Seasonings

No salt, no sugar, and no MSG. No Potassium either, so if you are on Warfarin it won't screw up your anticoagulation levels.

And, it's all very tasty!

224 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:51:25pm

re: #221 jamesfirecat

Use Minuet Man, Lord O'Dance, The Worm, and Vogue instead.

225 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:51:25pm

re: #212 jamesfirecat

Democratic voter fraud.

This can only mean one thing...

KAAAHHHNNN ACCCOOORRRNNN!

Yep. That and obscene attacks on Obama and us.

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:52:03pm

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This freakin' planet is cool.

I was thinking of moving but me couch is to heavy.
/

227 SteveC  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:52:44pm

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was thinking of moving but me couch is to heavy.
/

Can you imagine the shipping?

228 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:53:10pm

re: #179 Jadespring

Good food doesn't even have to be that complex or hard to make. Gourmet smourmet.

Heh, I get that from my grandma. Every time I put together a meat and two sides, and invite her over to eat, she calls it a "gourmet meal". I can't tell if she's teasing or being complimentary. Probably a bit of both.

229 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:54:30pm

re: #220 freetoken

In Boehner's speech last night he already threw the gauntlet down, saying it was the President's responsibility to come up with a budget.

(Not what it says in the Constitution, but who needs that old thing once elected, eh?)

Boehner has one game: make Obama look bad for 2012.

Agreed, but that's two years down the road. If he thinks the hurting middle class will abide an additional two years of inaction, he's an idiot. This Congressional vote was a vote for jobs and the economy, pure and simple.

230 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:54:44pm

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Also at that link:

Twitter Chatbot Debunks Climate Change Skeptics Without Tiring
Every five minutes, AI_AGW searches Twitter for tweets that feature common, debunked arguments against man-made climate change. It then responds with its own Tweet, countering the faulty argument in question, and providing a link to published information from groups like NASA that backs up its case.


Cool idea. We may need more.

231 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:55:22pm

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This freakin' planet is cool.

Actually, it's getting hotter than hell.

:-)

232 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:55:55pm

re: #229 austin_blue

If he thinks the hurting middle class will abide an additional two years of inaction, he's an idiot.

What's hurting middle class America is the Marxist Muslim in the Whitehouse, don't you know?

233 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:57:20pm

re: #209 Jadespring

More, he blamed people's stupidity for not getting behind them.

I know this. I know that Christine O'Donnell didn't kill anybody [and she's not a witch] at Chappaquiddick by driving her car off the bridge. I know that she didn't lie about her country [just the Constitution] and denigrate her country when she got back from Vietnam. I know she didn't do that. She doesn't have anywhere near the baggage that prominent Democrats have. She has nowhere near the baggage that acclaimed, loved, adored, and said to be stars in the Democrat Party have. Did she ever join the Ku Klux Klan? [No, but she did belong to a party that gets support from and defends Klukkers.] Did she ever become a Kleagle and recruit for the Ku Klux Klan? [Give her time.] She didn't, did she? The Democrats have a guy who did. Robert Byrd and his seat stayed in the Democrat Party. [And now you have Rand Paul. You must be so proud, Rush.] Did she have anywhere near the kind of financial fraud and tax cheating that Charles Rangel had? [Rangel's is too epic to compete against for anyone of any party.] No. And yet somehow there's a lesson that we are to learn from Christine O'Donnell? [Yes, stay in school. Even public school.] Exactly who are the stupid here, Christine O'Donnell or the people who let the media and the unions put Chris Coons into that seat? [Yeah, those intellectual elitists.] Is it really smart that we have Chris Coons in the Senate from Delaware? [God's will, Rush. Don't fight it.] Is it smart that we took steps that allowed that to happen? Who's really stupid out there? [Well...] Who are the stupid people? Sharron Angle [you betchya!] or the people who let the media and the unions give the election to Harry Reid without any ground game money. [Spookier yet they'd take a loser like Reid over Angle - she's that bad.]
234 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 7:58:18pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

I do a better job at home than any restaurant I can afford anyways.

Word. Most people could if they put their minds to it. I've worked in kitchens and pizza places before, and often have been disturbed by some of the behavior and conditions. I'd much prefer to have absolute control over the ingredients, their quality, and the cleanliness of the cooking environment then to trust it to a group of strangers.

235 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:00:04pm

re: #233 theheat

More, he blamed people's stupidity for not getting behind them.

Gee what a self righteous asshole he is. Gosh Rush maybe they lost because the voters didn't want lunatics representing them.

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:00:44pm

OT- I would like to thank my mom and step dad for sending me $130. I have 55 cents in my pocket. And I have a face only a mother could love. Back to regular scheduled programming.

237 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:01:12pm

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

She is paying you a VERY NICE COMPLIMENT. Accept it.

238 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:02:39pm

Bohner et al would freak at what I saw yesterday.

I've started a new project which involves working with the entire provincial curriculum. Yesterday I got the hard copies of Grade 1-8. I really didn't know what to expect as it's been years since I've been to elementary school myself and a really had little idea of what is actually taught.
So far I'm fairly impressed by it. For one basic science and specifically ecology as related to how human interact and effect our environment is integrated all over the place.
They also start learning the basics of climate science and yes climate change as just a given in grade 2.

239 avanti  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:02:51pm

Davis Frum makes a few good points:

"The Republican leaders won twice last night. They won a majority in the House of Representatives and a big gain in the Senate.

Those leaders also won an important psychological contest inside the Republican party: Three ridiculously winnable Senate seats have been thrown away by incompetent Tea Party radicals: Delaware, Nevada, and possibly Colorado"

Frum.

240 Lidane  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:03:22pm

re: #217 austin_blue

With the teabaggers that are joining the House, herding a pack of rabid wolverines will be easier for Boehner than actually getting any legislation done.

The Tea Party loons are already promising hearings about Climategate and investigations into Obama (read: Birthers, ahoy!). Add Luap Nor possibly overseeing the Fed and absolutely nothing will get done. They're already talking about a government shutdown being Obama's fault, for crying out loud.

We're in for two years of gridlock and idiocy unless the R's can somehow beat the teabaggers into a state of reasonableness.

241 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:03:39pm

re: #239 avanti

Davis Frum makes a few good points:

"The Republican leaders won twice last night. They won a majority in the House of Representatives and a big gain in the Senate.

Those leaders also won an important psychological contest inside the Republican party: Three ridiculously winnable Senate seats have been thrown away by incompetent Tea Party radicals: Delaware, Nevada, and possibly Colorado"

Frum.

I just finished reading that article.
Yes, he makes some very good points.

242 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:04:31pm

re: #232 freetoken

What's hurting middle class America is the Marxist Muslim in the Whitehouse, don't you know?

Well, sure, but Boehner has the reins now. It's his turn to write statutes to be presented to the House, then the Senate, and finally to Prexy. The Democratically controlled Senate will shield the Prez, unless they lose all faith in him, in which case they will pass it up for the Prexy to veto and take the heat.

Interesting times!

243 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:04:45pm

re: #239 avanti

re: #241 reine.de.tout

Some of my FAVORITE posters are in the house!
*waves*

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:05:53pm

re: #220 freetoken

In Boehner's speech last night he already threw the gauntlet down, saying it was the President's responsibility to come up with a budget.

(Not what it says in the Constitution, but who needs that old thing once elected, eh?)

Boehner has one game: make Obama look bad for 2012.

Procedural gamesmanship and budget wrangling is at least a game I can relate to

As opposed to what they did in Iowa, which I think is less something I can relate to, and more just another thing that reminds me I have little in common with a lot of America

Good game, Iowa

245 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:06:49pm

re: #233 theheat

More, he blamed people's stupidity for not getting behind them.

why does Rush think so little of America?..............

246 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:07:17pm

re: #239 avanti

Davis Frum makes a few good points:

"The Republican leaders won twice last night. They won a majority in the House of Representatives and a big gain in the Senate.

Those leaders also won an important psychological contest inside the Republican party: Three ridiculously winnable Senate seats have been thrown away by incompetent Tea Party radicals: Delaware, Nevada, and possibly Colorado"

Frum.

The interesting thing will be to see if the grassroots tea party types gain momentum despite this

247 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:07:19pm

re: #239 avanti

Davis Frum makes a few good points:

"The Republican leaders won twice last night. They won a majority in the House of Representatives and a big gain in the Senate.

Those leaders also won an important psychological contest inside the Republican party: Three ridiculously winnable Senate seats have been thrown away by incompetent Tea Party radicals: Delaware, Nevada, and possibly Colorado"

Frum.

True. But those leaders will have to work hard to bring the teabaggers into line. They can do it, but they need to get strated right away.

248 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:07:21pm

re: #243 Floral Giraffe

re: #241 reine.de.tout

Some of my FAVORITE posters are in the house!
*waves*

pout

249 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:07:33pm

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Gee what a self righteous asshole he is. Gosh Rush maybe they lost because the voters didn't want lunatics representing them.

Don't you see? Not wanting lunatics to represent you = you were too stupid to elect them.

I think I'll call that Occam's Snuggie: Looking at things in such a twisted manner that up is down, black is white, and wearing a bathrobe backwards seems like a good idea.

250 Lidane  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:07:36pm

re: #245 wozzablog

why does Rush think so little of America?...

Because he makes millions off the idiocy of the easily duped.

251 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:07:57pm

re: #240 Lidane

With the teabaggers that are joining the House, herding a pack of rabid wolverines will be easier for Boehner than actually getting any legislation done.

The Tea Party loons are already promising hearings about Climategate and investigations into Obama (read: Birthers, ahoy!). Add Luap Nor possibly overseeing the Fed and absolutely nothing will get done. They're already talking about a government shutdown being Obama's fault, for crying out loud.

We're in for two years of gridlock and idiocy unless the R's can somehow beat the teabaggers into a state of reasonableness.

Homegirl!

You're exactly right. But the new Reps will be junior in the committees and won't drive hearings. And Luap Nor, despite his son being being a shiny new Senator, is anathema to the Rank and File in the Senate.

252 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:08:16pm

re: #249 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't you see? Not wanting lunatics to represent you = you were too stupid to elect them.

I think I'll call that Occam's Snuggie: Looking at things in such a twisted manner that up is down, black is white, and wearing a bathrobe backwards seems like a good idea.

Pretty much. He's really pathetic honestly.

253 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:08:35pm

re: #243 Floral Giraffe

re: #241 reine.de.tout

Some of my FAVORITE posters are in the house!
*waves*

*waving back!*

I just did a google search for my nic, just to see what would come up.

And what came up?
My LGF PAGES!
The first 3 hits on reine.de.tout, were all LGF pages.

Pretty powerful feature, those pages.

254 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:08:55pm

re: #237 Floral Giraffe

She is paying you a VERY NICE COMPLIMENT. Accept it.

Oh, but she also loves to tease me. Kindly, of course. Sometimes she can deliver such a perfect straight line that she catches me off guard.

255 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:09:27pm

re: #244 WindUpBird

As the NYT write up that reasearchok linked (in the spinoffs) put it, Iowa used to be a leader in civil rights, from the beginning (before it was even a state.)

The ascension of the revanchist right-wing in the area of the country that used to be the home of Lincolnian Republicanism - the north central part of this nation - is certainly telling of what has happened in the US post WWII.

256 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:09:33pm

re: #245 wozzablog

It pays well. He can be verbose, lie, and behave shamefully, and not only get rich doing so, but be adored by millions of assholes just like him.

257 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:09:35pm

re: #242 austin_blue

Well, sure, but Boehner has the reins now. It's his turn to write statutes to be presented to the House, then the Senate, and finally to Prexy. The Democratically controlled Senate will shield the Prez, unless they lose all faith in him, in which case they will pass it up for the Prexy to veto and take the heat.

Interesting times!

Basically we're going to see a bunch of POLITICS!!!!

258 avanti  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:09:46pm

re: #243 Floral Giraffe

re: #241 reine.de.tout

Some of my FAVORITE posters are in the house!
*waves*

Thanks, but it's just a drive-by, need to get to bed fairly early for a change. (Waves back)

259 Lidane  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:09:46pm

re: #251 austin_blue

Homegirl!

You're exactly right. But the new Reps will be junior in the committees and won't drive hearings. And Luap Nor, despite his son being being a shiny new Senator, is anathema to the Rank and File in the Senate.

Both true. However, for the loons it's not about driving the hearings. It's about making enough noise about the leadership's failure to drive the hearings. If they can browbeat the committee chairs to get their way, that matters more.

260 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:10:32pm

re: #253 reine.de.tout

*waving back!*

I just did a google search for my nic, just to see what would come up.

And what came up?
My LGF PAGES!
The first 3 hits on reine.de.tout, were all LGF pages.

Pretty powerful feature, those pages.

Hey, Reine, hope you and the Roi are doing well. Bless you!

261 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:11:00pm

re: #253 reine.de.tout

Holy crap!! I did the google!!! I am somebody!! (not really)

262 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:11:11pm

re: #255 freetoken

As the NYT write up that reasearchok linked (in the spinoffs) put it, Iowa used to be a leader in civil rights, from the beginning (before it was even a state.)

The ascension of the revanchist right-wing in the area of the country that used to be the home of Lincolnian Republicanism - the north central part of this nation - is certainly telling of what has happened in the US post WWII.

yeah :(

263 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:11:32pm

re: #246 WindUpBird

The interesting thing will be to see if the grassroots tea party types gain momentum despite this

Unlikely. Most of the big Tea Party candidates in the Senate wend down in defeat. The two toss-ups the GOP won were Pennsylvania and Illinois. Kirk was never liked by the Tea Party, and Toomey is a party regular, not an insurgent.

264 avanti  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:11:43pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

True. But those leaders will have to work hard to bring the teabaggers into line. They can do it, but they need to get strated right away.

I would hate to permanently lose what was once the Grand Old Party,

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:12:56pm

Everyone my boss voted for lost, except for a local skool board lady. Heh.

266 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:12:59pm

re: #260 austin_blue

Hey, Reine, hope you and the Roi are doing well. Bless you!

Hey, AustinBlue!
Good to see you!

Bless you back, and yes, we're doing well.
I believe after several months struggle, we're coming to some sort of decision from the docs as to what's wrong with the Roi's shoulder.
(The arthritis doc told him it was some sort of injury; the ortho surgeon he went to next said he thinks it's arthritis; pffft. But a shot in each shoulder has him moving again today, so we've got our fingers crossed).

267 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:13:01pm

catcha all around.

bed is calling.

268 theheat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:13:22pm

re: #264 avanti

I say shitcan what it's become, and maybe a new party can inherit the forgotten good parts. The GOP as a party is beyond redemption.

269 CarleeCork  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:14:10pm

re: #240 Lidane

With the teabaggers that are joining the House, herding a pack of rabid wolverines will be easier for Boehner than actually getting any legislation done.

The Tea Party loons are already promising hearings about Climategate and investigations into Obama (read: Birthers, ahoy!). Add Luap Nor possibly overseeing the Fed and absolutely nothing will get done. They're already talking about a government shutdown being Obama's fault, for crying out loud.

We're in for two years of gridlock and idiocy unless the R's can somehow beat the teabaggers into a state of reasonableness.


And don't forget, they need to cover up all those naked tatas and take us back to the good old days. Women need to be pregnant, barefoot and in the kitchen and not voting. Them black folk and women need to get back in their places.
///

270 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:14:13pm

re: #263 Dark_Falcon

Unlikely. Most of the big Tea Party candidates in the Senate wend down in defeat. The two toss-ups the GOP won were Pennsylvania and Illinois. Kirk was never liked by the Tea Party, and Toomey is a party regular, not an insurgent.

Dude, the grassroots. not the senate

Here's the thing, the GOP grassroots (and that's what the tea party is, it's the republican grassroots) has to decide they were wrong, admit they were wrong as a movement, and back off. Do you see TP people suddenly looking at the results and backing off? Admitting their candidates were extreme and unelectable?

271 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:14:22pm

re: #259 Lidane

Both true. However, for the loons it's not about driving the hearings. It's about making enough noise about the leadership's failure to drive the hearings. If they can browbeat the committee chairs to get their way, that matters more.

I think we will find that the real gaspers are going to be marginalized by the R leadership. In the long run, they have no legs in the future of the Rs. They made this deal with the devil to take the House this cycle, but they *must* know that there is no future with these whacks.

272 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:15:12pm

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

Everyone I voted for won, except for two I knew were doomed but I felt they deserved a vote for venturing into hard-core wingnut districts.

Also, on the 10 propositions all but one went the way I had hoped.

So I feel fine ... here in California.

273 avanti  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:17:03pm

re: #270 WindUpBird

Dude, the grassroots. not the senate

Here's the thing, the GOP grassroots (and that's what the tea party is, it's the republican grassroots) has to decide they were wrong, admit they were wrong as a movement, and back off. Do you see TP people suddenly looking at the results and backing off? Admitting their candidates were extreme and unelectable?

No, I expect to see them get pissed off when the new crop can't roll the clock back 100 years or so. (Not conservitive enough)

274 CarleeCork  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:17:15pm

re: #199 Jadespring

Mmmm cheese. I lurvs cheese.


Add bacon, everything is better with bacon. Mmmmmm!

275 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:18:19pm

re: #272 freetoken

I lost on 2 different Props but did good overall. Our new Ag Sec is leaving congress. He has been there since age 26. He called Washington a cesspool. Heh.

276 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:18:42pm

re: #263 Dark_Falcon

Unlikely. Most of the big Tea Party candidates in the Senate wend down in defeat. The two toss-ups the GOP won were Pennsylvania and Illinois. Kirk was never liked by the Tea Party, and Toomey is a party regular, not an insurgent.

What i think is the grassroots will continue to gain momentum as a movement capable of moving the GOP their way. They can't get a sharron angle elected, because sharron angle was a neophyte with no political experience, but they CAN get a guy who used to be mainstream GOP to basically start taking their cues from the grassroots or be primaried


They almost got Sharron Angle elected, she came close enough to defeating an incumbent with power despite being bonkers and inexperienced that I believe they have a lot more ability to continue to change the GOP, and to continue to convince people to join their ranks because they're angry and unemployed and angry unemployed people make great extremist foot soldiers.

277 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:19:06pm

re: #273 avanti

No, I expect to see them get pissed off when the new crop can't roll the clock back 100 years or so. (Not conservitive enough)

the opposite of Progressive is not conservative - how little people remember - the opposite of Progressive is Regressive. Which, as you point out the Tea Party base seems to be.

(and with that i really am gone)

278 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:19:17pm

re: #272 freetoken

Just don't move there!

279 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:19:27pm

re: #272 freetoken

Everyone I voted for won, except for two I knew were doomed but I felt they deserved a vote for venturing into hard-core wingnut districts.

Also, on the 10 propositions all but one went the way I had hoped.

So I feel fine ... here in California.

*(*#(*(# prop 19 :(

280 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:20:34pm

re: #266 reine.de.tout

Hey, AustinBlue!
Good to see you!

Bless you back, and yes, we're doing well.
I believe after several months struggle, we're coming to some sort of decision from the docs as to what's wrong with the Roi's shoulder.
(The arthritis doc told him it was some sort of injury; the ortho surgeon he went to next said he thinks it's arthritis; pffft. But a shot in each shoulder has him moving again today, so we've got our fingers crossed).

Cortisone is our friend. Every two years or so I get a series of two cannular injections up my spine to settle down the blown disc I have (Thank you, Dixie Lynn Drilling!) in my L5-S1 intersection. I had a L4-L5 laminectomy in 1990.

281 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:21:05pm

re: #270 WindUpBird

Dude, the grassroots. not the senate

Here's the thing, the GOP grassroots (and that's what the tea party is, it's the republican grassroots) has to decide they were wrong, admit they were wrong as a movement, and back off. Do you see TP people suddenly looking at the results and backing off? Admitting their candidates were extreme and unelectable?

No, but that does not need to happen. The things the GOP leadership needs to do are:

1. Bottle up Rand Paul. He can give his loony speechs like his dad, but the party in the Senate should ignore him.

2. Promptly make it clear (behind closed doors) to the new congresspeople how things work. The leadership needs to get some items to pass worked out and then get its members to work moving those items through the House.

3. Don't run as many moderates as establishment candidates in 2012. Run conservatives, but ones who aren't flaky. Take a page from what Bill Clinton did to the GOP and steal the tea party's thunder.

282 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:22:54pm

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

4. Stick to your beliefs and don't use polling data to make decisions.

283 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:23:20pm

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

No, but that does not need to happen. The things the GOP leadership needs to do are:

1. Bottle up Rand Paul. He can give his loony speechs like his dad, but the party in the Senate should ignore him.

2. Promptly make it clear (behind closed doors) to the new congresspeople how things work. The leadership needs to get some items to pass worked out and then get its members to work moving those items through the House.

3. Don't run as many moderates as establishment candidates in 2012. Run conservatives, but ones who aren't flaky. Take a page from what Bill Clinton did to the GOP and steal the tea party's thunder.

The Tea PArty folks will have their knives out over this. It will be a real test of party loyalty for the R's.

284 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:25:16pm

I met my buds for a few drinks earlier. Are there any rules for or against posting comments with a buzz?

285 freetoken  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:25:38pm

Jon Stewart will have a plethora of new material with which to work.

286 bratwurst  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:25:55pm

re: #284 rwmofo

I met my buds for a few drinks earlier. Are there any rules for or against posting comments with a buzz?

In your case it is doubtful anyone will be able to tell the difference.

287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:26:11pm

re: #284 rwmofo

I met my buds for a few drinks earlier. Are there any rules for or against posting comments with a buzz?

The Iron Fist rule. If you're to drunk to post, don't.

288 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:26:52pm

re: #286 bratwurst

In your case it is doubtful anyone will be able to tell the difference.

Cheeky monkey!

289 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:27:02pm

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Iron Fist rule. If you're to drunk to post, don't.

What's the definition of too drunk?

290 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:27:17pm

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Iron Fist rule. If you're to drunk to post, don't.

And otherwise, if someone tells you you're too drunk to post, believe them.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:27:28pm

I have an idea. Remote controlled baby walker.

292 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:27:48pm

Nice photos:

Fashion
vs.
Nature

293 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:28:00pm

re: #289 rwmofo

What's the definition of too drunk?

Ask me in 2 hours.
/

294 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:28:07pm

re: #253 reine.de.tout

*waving back!*

I just did a google search for my nic, just to see what would come up.

And what came up?
My LGF PAGES!
The first 3 hits on reine.de.tout, were all LGF pages.

Pretty powerful feature, those pages.

I chose my screen nic for anonymity. Googling it comes up with pages and pages of children's songs, Canadial football teams, helicopters, cheese, songbirds, and whatnot.

295 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:28:11pm

I googled another user name that I used to use a lot and found this fairly crazy site I had completely forgotten about. Last post was almost 4 years ago.
So I logged on just for old times sake, posted a couple of things about the election and guess what, I GOT THE BAN HAMMER in a matter of minutes.

LOL Guess it's even more crazy now.

296 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:28:13pm

re: #290 reine.de.tout

Reine, you're too drunk to post.
:P

297 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:28:23pm

CANADIAN

pimf

298 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:28:58pm

re: #297 Alouette

CANADIAN

pimf

Cannadian.
/

299 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:29:01pm

re: #291 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have an idea. Remote controlled baby walker.

I need a remote controlled dog walker.
And cat catcher.
re: #296 Slumbering Behemoth

Reine, you're too drunk to post.
:P


b.b.b.b.b.but I haven't even had a sip yet!

300 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:30:11pm

re: #289 rwmofo

What's the definition of too drunk?

When you have to ask.

301 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:30:11pm

re: #299 reine.de.tout

Well, get busy!!!

302 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:30:30pm

re: #290 reine.de.tout

And otherwise, if someone tells you you're too drunk to post, believe them.

At the risk of tainting your standing with the lefties here, I bet I can get away with more in your yard than in some of the others'. If you tell me to knock it off, I'll think about it.

303 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:30:59pm

re: #298 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cannadian.
/

The Montreal football team will come up in a Google search before I do. At least I hope so.

I once Googled my screen name + stalkerblog to see what naughty stuff they were saying about me.

Just once. They are so freaking lame.

304 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:31:21pm

re: #299 reine.de.tout

b.b.b.b.b.but I haven't even had a sip yet!

And still, you are compelled to believe me.

305 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:31:42pm

re: #302 rwmofo

At the risk of tainting your standing with the lefties here, I bet I can get away with more in your yard than in some of the others'. If you tell me to knock it off, I'll think about it.

You're sounding OK for now.

And I'm sure I do quite well at doing my own tainting. No worries.

306 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:31:45pm

re: #303 Alouette

The Montreal football team will come up in a Google search before I do. At least I hope so.

I once Googled my screen name + stalkerblog to see what naughty stuff they were saying about me.

Just once. They are so freaking lame.

GO HAMILTON TIE CATS!!!!!

307 dr. luba  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:31:52pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

What's the matter with Kansas Kentucky?

Squirrel brains?

308 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:32:35pm

re: #300 goddamnedfrank

When you have to ask.

Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect.

309 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:32:47pm

re: #299 reine.de.tout

I need a remote controlled dog walker.
And cat catcher.
re: #296 Slumbering Behemoth


b.b.b.b.b.but I haven't even had a sip yet!

It's 10:26, you live in Red Stick, you are in an Oilfield family, and you haven't had a drink at TiPaull's Lounge?!?!?

Get with the program, cher!

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:32:48pm

re: #302 rwmofo

At the risk of tainting your standing with the lefties here

WTF? Reine stands on her own, and I love her for it.

311 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:32:55pm

re: #304 Slumbering Behemoth

And still, you are compelled to believe me.

It's that Catholic School education . . .
The importance of following instructions was a point that was made over and over and over . . .

312 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:33:27pm

re: #310 Slumbering Behemoth

WTF? Reine stands on her own, and I love her for it.

Aw.
*blush*
Merci!

313 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:34:47pm

re: #309 austin_blue

It's 10:26, you live in Red Stick, you are in an Oilfield family, and you haven't had a drink at TiPaull's Lounge?!?!?

Get with the program, cher!

That's 'cause I'm here.
But you've got a point - lemme run and see what I've got.

314 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:36:50pm

Where'd everybody go?

315 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:37:15pm

re: #26 jamesfirecat

And your height!

My favorite stock quote to date, when asked about homosexuality is simply this:

"I think that homosexuality is as naturally occurring as breathing."

I say it with confidence, and It lets the person know up front where I stand.

316 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:38:05pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

Where'd everybody go?

They are afraid of drunken women from Louisiana.
//

317 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:38:08pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

Where'd everybody go?

I'm still in Plano. It finally stopped raining.

318 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:41:11pm

Is this thing working? I usually generate a bunch of downdings.

319 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:41:30pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are afraid of drunken women from Louisiana.
//

Mardi Gras!

320 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:41:45pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are afraid of drunken women from Louisiana.
//

LOL. And for good reason!


re: #317 rwmofo

I'm still in Plano. It finally stopped raining.

finally stopped raining here, as well, sun came out right before sundown. Now it will get cooler, thank goodness.

321 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:41:46pm

Turn about is fair play....
Glenn Beck's very own Cloward and Piven strategy

On both his radio and television show, Glenn Beck has spent the better part of a year denouncing the 40-year old ideas of a pair of obscure Columbia sociologists. In 1966, Frances Fox Piven and Richard A. Cloward wrote an essay, published in The Nation, called "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty." This relatively innocuous thought piece has spawned, in Beck's mind, a massive left-wing conspiracy to increase dependency on government in order to "collapse the industrialized civilization," and bring "chaos," thus forcing the creation of a federal guaranteed national income.

Today, while talking about the national debt and the statutory debt limit, Beck suggested that the Congress refuse to raise the debt ceiling, which would induce a crisis, in order to "force a national conversation" on deficits and spending -- seemingly unaware that this is EXACTLY the kind of thing he's railed against.

322 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:42:25pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

Mardi Gras!

Show me you boobs!! I'll give you some beads!!!
/Wait, what!!!

323 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:42:45pm

Adios, ciao, sayonara, have a lovely night and sweet dreams, my dear Lizards.

Sleep well!

324 Jadespring  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:43:35pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

Where'd everybody go?

BOO!

I was elsewhere being naughty.

Bad me...

325 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:43:53pm

The gf and I planned to see the Exploratorium Museum today. I had no idea the zoo it would be at Market St. Not being a baseball fan ( or any sports fan for that matter - very commie pinko of me, I know ), it didn't occur to me that a parade was in order for the SF Giants, in the very area where we needed to catch our bus to the Marina district.

Well, we made it to the museum, enjoyed our time together, had a lovely lunch at the Squat and Gobble, a crepe house in the Marina district, and here I sit, relaxing with a couple beers.

Back to the mob scene at Market Street, in San Francisco, it was a zoo. Much more people than the Pride Parade could ever hope to generate. Even Hot Pink Feathers was there ( a local burlesque troupe) to honor our city's team. Crazy fun.

326 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:45:10pm

re: #321 Killgore Trout

Turn about is fair play...
Glenn Beck's very own Cloward and Piven strategy

Beck doesn't care. If it works in his favor, he's for it.

327 jaunte  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:45:16pm

re: #321 Killgore Trout

Good response from Bruce Bartlett.

In conclusion, Former Reagan Treasury official Bruce Bartlett, writing in June on advocates of refusing to raise the debt ceiling:

I am indeed contemptuous of those who advocate irresponsible policies in a juvenile belief that they are standing for principle instead of simply displaying their ignorance and immaturity. Sadly, we no longer live in a society where such people can safely be ignored. Some of them have an hour each day on Fox News to spew their nonsense or talk radio programs with large audiences or are members of Congress. Therefore, it is not unreasonable to think that in about 10 months they may have sufficient support to cause a default on the debt. When that happens we will see whether it leads to a downsizing of government or total chaos that nothing good will come from. I'm betting on the latter.

328 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:46:26pm

re: #3 Obdicut

I'm very glad Hickenlooper stomped all over Tancredo.

I just like "Hickenlooper" as a name.

329 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:47:43pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

Where'd everybody go?

To the bar!
Following you!
*smooch*

330 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:48:50pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are afraid of drunken women from Louisiana.
//


They're MORE afraid of sober women from Louisiana!

331 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:48:58pm

re: #329 Floral Giraffe

To the bar!
Following you!
*smooch*

I'm thinking a drunk FG=lap dance. Just sayin'.
///

332 rwmofo  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:49:52pm

re: #328 SanFranciscoZionist

I just like "Hickenlooper" as a name.

I miss Denver. If you're ever there during baseball season, go to a Rockies game. Coors Field is a kick and chances are there will be a high scoring game that day.

333 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:50:04pm

re: #216 jaunte

Quoting Ralph Hall:


Lots of room for pork maneuvering in that adjective.

It's only "runaway" when the other guy does it. And the spending that occurs with tax cuts (but no counterbalancing spending cuts) just doesn't matter.

334 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:51:19pm

re: #331 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's a nice compliment, thank you...

Youtube Video
335 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:54:06pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Oh, I easily agree with that. HOnestly, my big problem is when groups like those I mentioned use the fact that some Nazis like Ernst Rohm were gay and use it as a reason that we should be intolerant to gays. Using that logic we should persecute Catholics and Lutherans because many Nazis were that too. Of course the real infuriating thing about doing that to me is it misses the lessons of regimes like the Nazis which is not to persecute people simply because they're different. I get real offended when I see gay rights activists compared to the Nazis. It's outrageous considering these people simply want the same rights as I do.

Let me just say that Ernst Rohm's legacy in history would not have been better if he had been straight.

336 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:54:11pm

re: #334 Floral Giraffe

It's a nice compliment, thank you...

[Video]

I wasn't trying to be mean. OTOH, that Aerosmith album got me to start smoking weed. Which led to acid. And Pink Floyd. :)

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:54:44pm

re: #46 Alouette

While we're on the subject of homophobia, did anybody see the movie "Death at a Funeral"? This alleged "comedy" contains a "hilarious" scene in which a group of Black men forcibly drug and beat a gay man.

I missed that one.

Sounds like I'm just as happy.

338 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:55:39pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

This conservative says "Fuck Conservapedia!" It's a Fundiepedia, and nothing more.

It's pretty funny in bits. Whenever I show it to a new person, they think it's a liberal's attempt to make fun of conservatives.

When they realize it's serious, they get very, very weirded out.

339 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:55:57pm

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

Quick!
Everyone disappear when SFZ catches up!
/

340 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:56:38pm

re: #339 Varek Raith

Quick!
Everyone disappear when SFZ catches up!
/

She's just grading our comments!!

341 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:57:31pm

we are such things that code is made of, and our little workday is rounded with a checkin to local branch

342 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:57:48pm

re: #217 austin_blue

Well the D's got their collective ass kicked in the House last night, but survived in the Senate. Interesting dynamic. Now the R's have to try to legislate in the House. Given that they have have been The Party of No in the House the last four years, it will be fascinating to see how Boehner tries to fashion real Legislation

He won't, except for bullshit that he knows won't pass the Senate like repealing everything; and maybe some sort of symbolic gestures regarding abortion or gay marriage.

It's the advantage that a conservative party has in a system where govt has never really been trusted much, at least not since the 50s. The liberal party wants to pass big sweeping--often expensive--domestic legislation to improve quality of life as they see it. The conservative party wants nothing more than to prevent big sweeping legislation and to cut taxes (almost never unpopular). Thus the party that's less "ambitious" legislatively has an inherent advantage as they are less likely to have to defend votes for big expensive projects (other than war).

343 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:59:13pm

Bit shocking that Frank Luntz named a Harry Reid ad as the best political ad of 2010. It was a very good ad, but I'm surprised that he gave it to a Democrat. But I'm glad he was honest about it,

344 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:59:52pm

re: #342 palomino

I would say the problem is politicians can't stick to a budget. All of them. See Social Security.

345 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:01:47pm

re: #343 Dark_Falcon

Bit shocking that Frank Luntz named a Harry Reid ad as the best political ad of 2010. It was a very good ad, but I'm surprised that he gave it to a Democrat. But I'm glad he was honest about it,

People watch political ads???
I mute them.
They're always BS.
:)

346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:02:35pm

Goddamn you half-Japanese Indian girls
Do it to me every time

347 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:03:34pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

True. But those leaders will have to work hard to bring the teabaggers into line. They can do it, but they need to get strated right away.

Why? What ideological differences do the leaders of the GOP have with the teabaggers that will cause serious internal disputes?

This isn't the Dem party circa 1968--split in two over a major issue like Vietnam. None of the TP's vague overheated rhetoric (small govt, liberty, balanced budgets, jingoism) conflicts that much with the standard GOP agenda.

348 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:03:42pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

The Stalkers are itching for a Secret Service visit, it seems:

So now its "If you don't get what you want with ballots, use bullets." Just like the Islamist they claim to oppose.

Wait. The Republicans got a huge chunk and control of the House, and it's 'fraud' by the other guys?

349 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:04:04pm

re: #345 Varek Raith

People watch political ads???
I mute them.
They're always BS.
:)

Reach across the isle.
Work together.
Bipartisanship.
Moving America forward.
Escape form failed legislation.
Should I go on?
/I can write commercial.

350 Timmeh  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:04:38pm

re: #65 freetoken

Murkowski needs to get 83.85% of the write-in ballots to be accrued to her, in order to beat Miller.

Will it happen?

Intrade thinks that Lisa Murkowski won in Alaska. The contract on the republican (Joe Miller) winning is now trading for $4, and the one on "any other" (Murkowski) is trading for $96.

351 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:05:28pm

Please note: the stalker posing as a Wikipedia editor is planning his next move: Talk:Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

i addressed similar concerns upthread in the talk item for my original inclusion [17]. please read that item, because i stated it much better there, but to reiterate down here, there are a lot of things in the article as it stands which would certainly be trivial in other articles, but which are not at all trivial in the context of this article. for instance, the event of johnson writing a post about how he doesn't like republicans anymore hardly caused a ripple outside of a fraction of the blog-o-sphere, but it was an important event in the context of little green footballs, and so it's important enough to be included in the wikipedia article about little green footballs. the event of johnson revising his archives of paranoid rightwing hate-speech is a subsequent, related event of proportionate weight.

if you were really looking for a candidate to place the WP:UNDUE tag on, you might look at the "charitable contributions" section [18].

i agree with obdicut that the article needs a significant re-write. perhaps when i've satisfied this particular inclusion, i'll attempt one as well so we can have two models to draw from. Notanipokay (talk) 03:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

"Paranoid right wing hate speech?" Is it possible for anyone to be more biased?

This is the guy who previously used six different IP addresses, now trying to appear sane. Unbelievable.

352 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:05:32pm

re: #349 Cannadian Club Akbar

Reach across the isle.
Work together.
Bipartisanship.
Moving America forward.
Escape form failed legislation.
Should I go on?
/I can write commercial.

All in a scary voice.

353 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:07:07pm

I may have to take this Wikipedia insanity public.

354 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:07:16pm

re: #352 Varek Raith

All in a scary voice.

I can say Bwhahahhahahaha!!!eleventy.

355 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:07:38pm

re: #353 Charles

I may have to take this Wikipedia insanity public.

Do it.

356 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:07:43pm

re: #353 Charles

I may have to take this Wikipedia insanity public.

I say, go for it!

357 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:08:04pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

Wait. The Republicans got a huge chunk and control of the House, and it's 'fraud' by the other guys?

That's what that stalker loon said. He wrote it as a parody of the doggerel about Guy Fawkes, that gained popularity in the US as a result of the movie adaptation of V for Vendetta.

358 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:09:29pm

re: #339 Varek Raith

re: #351 Charles

Sane, they can TRY to appear.
Reason will out them.
You live in their heads, and they fear you!
It's just the whack fantasticy.
There's no rhyme or reason.
Dementia, only...
Hang in there!

359 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:09:34pm

re: #344 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would say the problem is politicians can't stick to a budget. All of them. See Social Security.

No argument here. But the real question is: are the tea party congress members going to stand on their supposed written-in-stone principles and raise hell, engendering some split in the GOP? I find that very doubtful.

360 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:11:25pm

re: #359 palomino

No argument here. But the real question is: are the tea party congress members going to stand on their supposed written-in-stone principles and raise hell, engendering some split in the GOP? I find that very doubtful.

They are all (most) whores. I would rule as a politician. My past won't let me. Bummer.

361 Kragar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:11:27pm

Watching a David Cross special and he just used this line;

"I love the Tea Party because I'm a big fan of signs filled with misspelled, gramatically incorrect hyperbole."

I love David Cross.

362 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:11:36pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

Wait. The Republicans got a huge chunk and control of the House, and it's 'fraud' by the other guys?

If not for Dem voter fraud, the gop would now control the two houses of congress by margins of 435-0 and 100-0.

So, you see, last nite was really a victory for the Dems and their election stealing accomplices at ACORN and Jeremiah Wright's house.

363 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:13:14pm

Corn Pone Opinions
/Namaste, Y'all

364 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:15:46pm

re: #360 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are all (most) whores. I would rule as a politician. My past won't let me. Bummer.

My past too. Too many people have seen (and heard) me do and say too many incriminating things, all of them unbecoming an upstanding politician. Also, I don't go to church so I'm anti-family values; but wait, here in Cali that would be an electoral advantage.

Either way, you think the TPers will sell out that fast?

365 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:15:48pm

Ok, One more....
Image: Celebrity-Cats-26.jpg

366 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:16:05pm

re: #361 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Watching a David Cross special and he just used this line;

"I love the Tea Party because I'm a big fan of signs filled with misspelled, gramatically incorrect hyperbole."

I love David Cross.

yes :D :D :D Happy time harry!

367 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:16:26pm

re: #360 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are all (most) whores. I would rule as a politician. My past won't let me. Bummer.

My present won't let me!

368 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:16:36pm

Alrighty. Gonna make some baby back ribs. See ya'll later or in the AM.

369 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:17:42pm

re: #364 palomino

re: #367 WindUpBird

I love ya'll for a reason. Heh. Nighty.

370 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:17:50pm

re: #289 rwmofo

What's the definition of too drunk?

It's an individual thing. I've posted drunk. If you think that In Vino Veritas will lead to Fossor Es Pello, don't.

371 Kragar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:18:04pm

re: #366 WindUpBird

yes :D :D :D Happy time harry!

"Well, I am an analyst and a therapist. I guess you could say I'm an analrapist."

372 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:18:49pm

re: #370 SanFranciscoZionist

It's an individual thing. I've posted drunk. If you think that In Vino Veritas will lead to Fossor Es Pello, don't.

You?!
I don't believe it.
:)

373 palomino  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:21:44pm

re: #369 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #367 WindUpBird

I love ya'll for a reason. Heh. Nighty.

Aight. Right back at ya.

374 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:24:04pm

re: #372 Varek Raith

You?!
I don't believe it.
:)

It's true. But even drunk SFZ is saner and smarter than most people.

375 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:29:07pm

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

That's what that stalker loon said. He wrote it as a parody of the doggerel about Guy Fawkes, that gained popularity in the US as a result of the movie adaptation of V for Vendetta.

This year I'm doing NANOWRIMO.

One of the writers has a signature on his posts:

Remember remember the fifth of November.
By then you should have 8,337 words done.

376 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:31:36pm

re: #370 SanFranciscoZionist

It's an individual thing. I've posted drunk. If you think that In Vino Veritas will lead to Fossor Es Pello, don't.

I've posted trashed, but never like anything remotely resembling an argument, just mostly music links and just goofiness in capital letters

377 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:32:09pm

re: #375 SanFranciscoZionist

This year I'm doing NANOWRIMO.

One of the writers has a signature on his posts:

Remember remember the fifth of November.
By then you should have 8,337 words done.

Oh you're in my friends' territory now, I know so many people doing nanowrimo :D

378 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:39:13pm

re: #377 WindUpBird

Oh you're in my friends' territory now, I know so many people doing nanowrimo :D

I've been meaning to try it for years, but this is the first time I've actually started it.

379 Kragar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:39:54pm

re: #378 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been meaning to try it for years, but this is the first time I've actually started it.

Sounds like a commie plot to me.

380 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:47:15pm

Time to go to bed. Goodnight, all.

381 Kragar  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:47:45pm

Finished my book, now I have to wait another year.

382 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:53:51pm

re: #361 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Snaps the collar back on.
HOW did he get out of it?
Well, it won't happen again!

383 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:55:20pm

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

"There is a determined, focused establishment effort … to find a candidate we can coalesce around who can beat Sarah Palin," said one prominent and longtime Washington Republican. "We believe she could get the nomination, but Barack Obama would crush her."

This sentiment was a nearly constant refrain in POLITICO interviews with top advisers to the candidates most frequently mentioned as running in 2012 and a diverse assortment of other top GOP officials.

Nearly all of these interviewees insisted on keeping their views on background, fearing the wrath of conservative grass-roots activists who are enthralled with the former Alaska governor and who have made plain that the establishment’s disdain for Palin and her devotees is mutually reciprocated.

384 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:55:25pm

Who was it here that said Jerry Brown was unelectable? heh

385 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 9:56:37pm

re: #383 goddamnedfrank

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

I gotta watch this closely, the metastory of the GOP trying to neutralize Sarah Palin is very interesting to me

386 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 10:10:17pm

re: #385 WindUpBird

I gotta watch this closely, the metastory of the GOP trying to neutralize Sarah Palin is very interesting to me

What I find interesting is how much denial they are in, they actually think that she somehow personifies their problem, when she's really just a symptom.

387 wondervu  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 10:23:13pm

Tearing down Buck doesn't make Bennet any better.

It's not this vs. "perfection", it's this vs. "that". Buck lost a lot of female voters for his strict views, and it cost him the election. The GOP ideological purity test strikes again.

The real story deals with us working people in Colorado, and how Bennet will help or hurt us. We've seen his record so far - or at least I've looked at it.

To stay with the mood though, I'll say CONGRATULATIONS ALL YOU GUYS!!!! Although Buck's personal views don't square with mine, he would've be a better senator.

/temporarily bitter and sarcastic unaffiliated CO voter

388 lostlakehiker  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 10:31:07pm

re: #342 palomino

He won't, except for bullshit that he knows won't pass the Senate like repealing everything; and maybe some sort of symbolic gestures regarding abortion or gay marriage.

It's the advantage that a conservative party has in a system where govt has never really been trusted much, at least not since the 50s. The liberal party wants to pass big sweeping--often expensive--domestic legislation to improve quality of life as they see it. The conservative party wants nothing more than to prevent big sweeping legislation and to cut taxes (almost never unpopular). Thus the party that's less "ambitious" legislatively has an inherent advantage as they are less likely to have to defend votes for big expensive projects (other than war).

A conservative policy of limiting the size of government [though not its authority] has brought the People's Republic of China a couple of decades or more of near 10% growth. When there is technology waiting to be adopted, people capable of mastering it, and money enough to get started on the adoption, it's folly to spend any but a bare minimum on side issues. Invest, build, grow.

Radical changes can unfold as a result of protracted robust growth. The growth makes possible a social agenda on the cheap that would have been impossibly expensive earlier. The road to a generous social agenda, in absolute terms, is paved with abstemious possibilities that put growth first, followed by modest spending out of a newly abundant total income, spending that looms small but would have overwhelmed the means of the society pre-growth.

Once growth has caught up to available technology, the real debate over whether to increase social spending by the government, leave the money in the hands of the people and let them enjoy the fruits of their labor, attempt to develop yet newer and better technology, or improve the military, or whatever, heats up. There is no longer a clear best choice. "Sweeping government programs" are not necessarily the highest and best use of the resources of a society. All too often, they're a chasing after phantoms. We are not going to have an "ownership society". We are not going to have the world's best educated people. We are not going to end poverty, not when we keep defining poverty upward so that effectively universal indoor plumbing, electricity, color TV, abundant food, sturdy clothing, and so on, doesn't count as "ending poverty".

389 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 10:45:02pm

re: #388 lostlakehiker

this is a very literate and well written essay, yet i disagree with your fundamental premise. government has often driven growth and innovation. money is not a static thing that diassapears when you spend it - money does the most good when it moves around the most, and government does that just as well as any individual or business

lets substantiate this with a concrete example: WWII spending - serious government deficit spending - is not only given credit for really ending the depression, but also spawned many technical innovations, from radar to computers to nuclear energy - that became the foundation of innumerable profitable businesses since

qed massive government spending does not stifle growth and innovation

390 ozbloke  Wed, Nov 3, 2010 11:24:25pm

re: #388 lostlakehiker

A conservative policy of limiting the size of government [though not its authority] has brought the People's Republic of China a couple of decades or more of near 10% growth. When there is technology waiting to be adopted, people capable of mastering it, and money enough to get started on the adoption, it's folly to spend any but a bare minimum on side issues. Invest, build, grow.

Radical changes can unfold as a result of protracted robust growth. The growth makes possible a social agenda on the cheap that would have been impossibly expensive earlier. The road to a generous social agenda, in absolute terms, is paved with abstemious possibilities that put growth first, followed by modest spending out of a newly abundant total income, spending that looms small but would have overwhelmed the means of the society pre-growth.

Once growth has caught up to available technology, the real debate over whether to increase social spending by the government, leave the money in the hands of the people and let them enjoy the fruits of their labor, attempt to develop yet newer and better technology, or improve the military, or whatever, heats up. There is no longer a clear best choice. "Sweeping government programs" are not necessarily the highest and best use of the resources of a society. All too often, they're a chasing after phantoms. We are not going to have an "ownership society". We are not going to have the world's best educated people. We are not going to end poverty, not when we keep defining poverty upward so that effectively universal indoor plumbing, electricity, color TV, abundant food, sturdy clothing, and so on, doesn't count as "ending poverty".

What is the government your savoir?
Where is your personal responsibility, ya dirty commie hippie !1!1!

391 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Nov 4, 2010 12:42:01am

re: #160 Floral Giraffe

LOL! So very true!
Bless your heart!
//

When someone says, "Bless your heart" to me, I tell them that my heart's just fine but that the rest of me can use all the help it can get.

re: #289 rwmofo

What's the definition of too drunk?

If you can hang on to the gutter and not fall off the world, you're not drunk.

392 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Nov 4, 2010 12:50:06am

re: #335 SanFranciscoZionist

Let me just say that Ernst Rohm's legacy in history would not have been better if he had been straight.

And he would have lived longer. And been just as much of an evil a-hole.re: #353 Charles

I may have to take this Wikipedia insanity public.

That sounds like a good plan to me.


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