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1 Kragar  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:31:23am

Well, they are the show me state.
/

2 KingKenrod  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:32:05am

And you just know some GOP moron in Washington DC is going to try to bring this birther nonsense up for action in the House…

3 Gus  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:33:02am

The Majority Leader no less. How embarrassing.

4 insanity police  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:33:47am

That this is an issue is ridiculous. John McCain, who all these birthers voted for, was not even born in the U.S. Obama was born is the good old USA. This is such a stupid distraction from what actually matters.

5 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:34:47am

And the freakshow continues as the GOP who hasn’t worked with the Dems on a single thing for 10 years now, sends that message even more gloatingly as it promotes and unapologetic a lunatic fringe.

6 Kragar  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:35:15am

re: #4 insanity police

That this is an issue is ridiculous. John McCain, who all these birthers voted for, was not even born in the U.S. Obama was born is the good old USA. This is such a stupid distraction from what actually matters.

Stupid distractions are what the modern GOP is all about.

7 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:35:53am

The amount of calculated stupidity it takes to be a ‘birther’ is rather extreme.

The actual conspiracy, on the face of it, makes no sense.

Why on earth would Obama’s mother had chosen to fly to Africa to have a child, and then go through an elaborate forgery to try to pretend she’d had him in Hawaii?

Why wouldn’t she have just had him in Hawaii?

There is nothing, literally nothing about the birther issue that makes any sense at all.

8 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:36:48am

re: #2 KingKenrod

And you just know some GOP moron in Washington DC is going to try to bring this birther nonsense up for action in the House…

Of course, it will provide a nice distraction that keeps anything from getting done, while keeping the Fox base incensed.

Remember, the endgame is killing climate and ensuring that nothing effects the corporate masters. Getting some wedge issue bones out to the “pious” sector of their base is secondary.

Something like this is noise that can be used to prevent organized resistance.

9 insanity police  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:37:00am
10 webevintage  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:39:10am

re: #9 insanity police

OT/Breaking:

Pelosi To Run For Minority Leader

Good.
I think she was a great Speaker of the House and I would love to see her biting a Bohener’s heels.

11 SteveC  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:40:30am

re: #7 Obdicut

Why on earth would Obama’s mother had chosen to fly to Africa to have a child, and then go through an elaborate forgery to try to pretend she’d had him in Hawaii?

Why wouldn’t she have just had him in Hawaii?

*shakes head* I’m not going to try to explain it. You just wouldn’t understand how critical this is to what is happening in America right now.

\ Turn it up!

12 Gus  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:41:29am

Wow. Guess how many Democrats are in the Missouri state senate?

Eight.

13 Kragar  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:42:18am

re: #5 LudwigVanQuixote

And the freakshow continues as the GOP who hasn’t worked with the Dems on a single thing for 10 years now, sends that message even more gloatingly as it promotes and unapologetic a lunatic fringe.

What do you mean?
/

Rush: Winners Don’t Compromise

But when it comes to core principle, like we’re talking about here with politics, saving the country, moving forward, no compromise on that. There’s no half freedom. There’s no half tyranny. It’s like I said yesterday, where’s the compromise between food and poison? Where’s the compromise between good and evil? Now, some people revolt, “What do you mean, good and evil? Are you saying Democrats are evil?” The direction they’re taking the country is not good. Whether they’re evil individual people or not I don’t know, but liberalism’s evil. What about liberalism do you want? Because I’ll tell you, here’s the thing about them: Whatever they get is never enough. Never. It’s never enough. They are never placated, never satisfied.

14 Gus  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:43:02am

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, they are the show me state.
/

You know what the unofficial nickname is for Missouri? Misery. /

15 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:44:55am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wow. Liberalism is evil. No compromise. Wow.

Fucking anarchists. We just elected a bunch of goddamn anarchists.

16 jaunte  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:45:33am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“Whatever they get is never enough. Never. It’s never enough. They are never placated, never satisfied.”
Sounds like Mr. Greedhead Viagra Sextour is doing a little projection.

17 SteveC  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:48:42am

re: #16 jaunte

“Whatever they get is never enough. Never. It’s never enough. They are never placated, never satisfied.”

Is that what it sounds like When Doves Cry?

/

18 Kragar  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:48:57am

If elected I promise not to listen to anyone except the majority, exactly as our Founding Fathers intended.

Of course, if I don’t win, its obvious those evil bastards rigged the election and its my patriotic duty to obstruct them.

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:49:22am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”

20 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:49:53am

So if I tweet this post and append Mr. Jones’s twitter address, @TimWJones, will it show up on his feed? Because I think he needs to see the Lolephant Seal, and what exactly happened to the certifikit.

21 webevintage  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:50:29am

Can I now say that the American voting public is full of morons?
What can explain voting for people like this?
Do people really think that this is a good idea? That not raising the debt ceiling will be awesome and not make the loves of almost everyone miserable?

I can’t even use the fact that the President is brown as an explanation any more to explain the idiocy going on in this country now.

22 Four More Tears  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:50:44am

re: #15 Obdicut

Wow. Liberalism is evil. No compromise. Wow.

Fucking anarchists. We just elected a bunch of goddamn anarchists.

We elected a bunch of people who hate government… to govern us.

23 Kragar  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:53:10am

re: #22 JasonA

We elected a bunch of people who hate government… to govern us.

Anything to fight the shadow cabal of black robed activists who make up the Supreme Court.

Grammar question; Would the “THE” in the Supreme Court be capitalized or does it matter?

24 Four More Tears  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 10:55:33am

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anything to fight the shadow cabal of black robed activists who make up the Supreme Court.

Grammar question; Would the “THE” in the Supreme Court be capitalized or does it matter?

Just wait until that radical Supreme Court takes away our ability to join class-action suits…

25 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:04:36am

re: #15 Obdicut

Wow. Liberalism is evil. No compromise. Wow.

Fucking anarchists. We just elected a bunch of goddamn anarchists.

Evil is very good at calling what is virtuous evil.

When rush uses the word against anyone rather than describing his own many sins, the force of the hypocrisy is like a concussion wave in the air from a distant explosion.

26 122 Year Old Obama  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:06:59am

*headdesk*

27 Four More Tears  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:10:24am

re: #26 SteelPH

*headdesk*

My desk has developed a nice curve in it after the past couple of years.

28 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:13:08am

OMG. I really detest Olberman’s on screen personae and antics. Nobody makes me dive for the remote faster. (It’s a tie among several)

But I have a legal issue to raise-How is is media persons lose the right to donate? What’s next not allowed party membership?
Not allowed to vote?
These individuals rights are central to democracy. It looks like illegal “ethics standards” to me.

29 Four More Tears  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:13:42am

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Wrong thread, bro.

30 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:14:14am

re: #29 JasonA

Awshit. The other tab…Thanks!

31 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 11:58:45am

re: #3 Gus 802

The Majority Leader no less. How embarrassing.

Our country may be entering into a period of unprecedented darkness.

Hard to tell of course. Perhaps in a few years, the fickle public may see the TP crows for the cranks that they are and vote them out in the future. Then again, maybe not. Perhaps this is but a small taste of the utter moronic behavior of Republicans to come.

32 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 12:42:32pm

re: #7 Obdicut

The amount of calculated stupidity it takes to be a ‘birther’ is rather extreme.

The actual conspiracy, on the face of it, makes no sense.

Why on earth would Obama’s mother had chosen to fly to Africa to have a child, and then go through an elaborate forgery to try to pretend she’d had him in Hawaii?

Why wouldn’t she have just had him in Hawaii?

There is nothing, literally nothing about the birther issue that makes any sense at all.

The children of women who are american citizens are automatically fully-naturalized american citizens. Obama’s mother was an american citizen. Therefore, even if Obama was born in Kenya, he would be eligible for the presidency.

Even if the birthers were exactly right about every factual claim regarding Obama which they espouse, they still have no point whatsoever. Even if they are right, Obama is 100% eligible to be president.

It just blows my mind.

33 HappyWarrior  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 1:16:32pm

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What do you mean?
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Rush: Winners Don’t Compromise

Fine, Rush I don’t want to hear your whiny voice when the Dems gain back power though.

34 Buck  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 1:49:21pm

To be an actual “unapologetic Birther” doesn’t anyone think that there should be an actual statement where he says some kind of support for being a birther?

I am not saying he isn’t, but following the links provided always seems to dead end at:

A message left at Jones’ office was not immediately returned.

Or

refused to comment on Obama’s alleged usurping of the presidency.

I mean for a blog that gave the other Jones (Van) the benefit of the doubt, isn’t the headline a bit of a stretch?

Who’s word are we taking on this? Orly Taitz? Really?

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 2:12:50pm

re: #34 Buck

Reading is Fundamental

Jones was listed as a plaintiff in a lawsuit filed by lawyer-dentist Taitz to obtain an original birth certificate, immigration records, passports and other vital records from Obama.

36 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 2:54:57pm

re: #34 Buck

To be an actual “unapologetic Birther” doesn’t anyone think that there should be an actual statement where he says some kind of support for being a birther?

Don’t you think you should actually read the article before complaining? That would be a great way to avoid making a fool of yourself, next time.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:14:58pm

re: #7 Obdicut

The amount of calculated stupidity it takes to be a ‘birther’ is rather extreme.

The actual conspiracy, on the face of it, makes no sense.

Why on earth would Obama’s mother had chosen to fly to Africa to have a child, and then go through an elaborate forgery to try to pretend she’d had him in Hawaii?

Why wouldn’t she have just had him in Hawaii?

There is nothing, literally nothing about the birther issue that makes any sense at all.

Why wouldn’t she have had him in Hawaii?
Why wouldn’t he still be a citizen through his mother?
Why did the family fake birth announcements in the Honolulu papers, decades before a sane person would have considered that baby Barack might want to go into politics?
Someone posted some time back a very funny animation that showed what you actually have to believe in order to buy the whole birther thing.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:15:59pm

re: #12 Gus 802

Wow. Guess how many Democrats are in the Missouri state senate?

Eight.

So they can all fit at one big table at Applebees when they caucus?

(Do they have Applebees in Missouri? It’s popular with teachers going to lunch at the end of the year.)

39 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:16:54pm

re: #15 Obdicut

Wow. Liberalism is evil. No compromise. Wow.

Fucking anarchists. We just elected a bunch of goddamn anarchists.

No. Anarchists believe that people are basically good, and make good decisions.

Teepers believe that most people aside from themselves are evil to the bone.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:17:10pm

re: #17 SteveC

Is that what it sounds like When Doves Cry?

/

Why do we scream at each other?

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:17:54pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anything to fight the shadow cabal of black robed activists who make up the Supreme Court.

Grammar question; Would the “THE” in the Supreme Court be capitalized or does it matter?

No. It wouldn’t be. They’re not The Who.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:18:41pm

re: #32 Fozzie Bear

The children of women who are american citizens are automatically fully-naturalized american citizens. Obama’s mother was an american citizen. Therefore, even if Obama was born in Kenya, he would be eligible for the presidency.

Even if the birthers were exactly right about every factual claim regarding Obama which they espouse, they still have no point whatsoever. Even if they are right, Obama is 100% eligible to be president.

It just blows my mind.

And if Pam is right, and he’s secretly Malcolm X’s love child, his father was also a U.S. citizen!

43 Steve Dutch  Fri, Nov 5, 2010 6:35:30pm

Down at the bottom of the certificate of live birth it says “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.” You don’t need a long form, you don’t need something signed by the doctor. The certificate is sufficient in any court. “Ms Taitz, you have thirty seconds to get out of my court before I find you in contempt.”

Over, done, stick a fork in it. Birthers have nothing, zero, zip, nada, bupkis to stand on. How many ways are there to say it?

44 Yashmak  Sat, Nov 6, 2010 5:52:30am

I’ve yet to meet a birther who is “apologetic”. I guess that makes sense though. You have to have enough knowledge to know your position is senseless to understand that you’re in the wrong, and I’ve yet to meet a birther who has even the faintest idea what constitutes a valid birth certificate, let alone that one fitting the bill has been provided at every legitimate request.


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