Keith Olbermann’s lost weekend will soon come to an end: Keith Olbermann To RETURN Tuesday, Phil Griffin Announces.
From Phil Griffin, President of MSNBC:
“After several days of deliberation and discussion, I have determined that suspending Keith through and including Monday night’s program is an appropriate punishment for his violation of our policy. We look forward to having him back on the air Tuesday night.”
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Romantic Heretic Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:50:45pm |
That took less time than I thought it would.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:51:42pm |
Guaranteed a lot of viewers on Tuesday night.
Not allegatin’. Just sayin’.
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Political Atheist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:53:25pm |
Well played MSNBC. Well played. Sincere as a porn star on the 4th take, but a win in the rating battles none the less.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:55:04pm |
Fastest freakin’ open I’ve ever seen…
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:55:22pm |
All three people who were shocked that he was making donations to Democrats are shocked, and will protest.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:56:51pm |
re: #3 b_sharp
Try to imagine how little I care.
i imagine, like me, that you care approximately as much as a Taco Bell cashier/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:57:28pm |
re: #6 EmmmieG
All three people who were shocked that he was making donations to Democrats are shocked, and will protest.
Those are probably decended from the same three who were shocked to find gambling in Rick’s Casino. ;)
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Max Sun, Nov 7, 2010 6:59:52pm |
Hey, Jon Stewart’s rally kinda worked! Sanity was restored.. for one weekend.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:02:44pm |
re: #2 Charles
Guaranteed a lot of viewers on Tuesday night.
Not allegatin’. Just sayin’.
It’s an old shock jock radio gimmick. They break into the boss’ office and steal the tickets to the big Aerosmith concert and give them away to the 100th caller and get suspended for a week of vacation.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:03:39pm |
Twas a short celebration for Beck and Rush’ fan base.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:04:21pm |
More related than you may think:
Talkin’ Loud and Sayin’ Nothing
I also reiterate my earlier observation that if you can wiggle a D7 chord up and down the neck one or two frets in either direction, you can thereby play the entire James Brown repertoire.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:04:42pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
It’s an old shock jock radio gimmick. They break into the boss’ office and steal the tickets to the big Aerosmith concert and give them away to the 100th caller and get suspended for a week of vacation.
And the rubes fall for it every time.
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Interesting Times Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:05:22pm |
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b_sharp Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:06:08pm |
re: #15 negativ
More related than you may think:
Talkin’ Loud and Sayin’ Nothing
I also reiterate my earlier observation that if you can wiggle a D7 chord up and down the neck one or two frets in either direction, you can thereby play the entire James Brown repertoire.
He only used alternate fingering of the one chord? Or do you mean the D7 form?
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Max Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:06:24pm |
re: #14 eclectic infidel
Twas a short celebration for Beck and Rush’ fan base.
This really sucks. I blew all my fuck you money on Cristal. FML.
/
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b_sharp Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:06:41pm |
re: #17 publicityStunted
I can assure you I had nothing to do with it. /
Sure, sure.
That’s what you say now…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:10:21pm |
re: #16 Charles
And the rubes fall for it every time.
P.T. Barnum had it right: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:11:13pm |
re: #24 Dark_Falcon
P.T. Barnum had it right: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
This way to the Egress.
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b_sharp Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:11:42pm |
re: #24 Dark_Falcon
P.T. Barnum had it right: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
The rubes have such boring lives they want to be suckered.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:12:26pm |
Much kudos to my cable supplier…….. I’m glad they have never offered MSNBC.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:12:31pm |
re: #26 b_sharp
The rubes have such boring lives they want to be suckered.
Or just want free Aerosmith tickets.
And some bread. Bread and an Aerosmith circus.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:12:57pm |
just a little background
Early in 1997, Olbermann was suspended for two weeks after he made an unauthorized appearance on The Daily Show on Comedy Central with then-host and former ESPN colleague Craig Kilborn. At one point in the show, he referred to Bristol, Connecticut (ESPN’s headquarters), as a “‘Godforsaken place.”[28] Later that year, Olbermann abruptly left ESPN under a cloud of controversy, apparently burning his bridges with the network’s management;[29] this began a long and drawn-out feud between Olbermann and ESPN. Between 1997 and 2007, incidents between the two sides included Olbermann’s publishing an essay on Salon.com in November 2002, titled “Mea Culpa”, in which he stated: “I couldn’t handle the pressure of working in daily long-form television, and what was worse, I didn’t know I couldn’t handle it.”[30] The essay told of an instance when his former bosses remarked he had “too much backbone,” a claim that is literally true, as Olbermann has six lumbar vertebrae instead of the normal five.[30]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:14:04pm |
re: #29 HoosierHoops
just a little background
Early in 1997, Olbermann was suspended for two weeks after he made an unauthorized appearance on The Daily Show on Comedy Central with then-host and former ESPN colleague Craig Kilborn. At one point in the show, he referred to Bristol, Connecticut (ESPN’s headquarters), as a “‘Godforsaken place.”[28] Later that year, Olbermann abruptly left ESPN under a cloud of controversy, apparently burning his bridges with the network’s management;[29] this began a long and drawn-out feud between Olbermann and ESPN. Between 1997 and 2007, incidents between the two sides included Olbermann’s publishing an essay on Salon.com in November 2002, titled “Mea Culpa”, in which he stated: “I couldn’t handle the pressure of working in daily long-form television, and what was worse, I didn’t know I couldn’t handle it.”[30] The essay told of an instance when his former bosses remarked he had “too much backbone,” a claim that is literally true, as Olbermann has six lumbar vertebrae instead of the normal five.[30]
So now he’s a jerk and a freak?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:14:09pm |
The form. I LOVE a lot of that stuff, so don’t think I’m insulting it, but I can just about see the guy’s hand on the neck going “WOO 7th CHORD FOR AN HOUR, WISH I COULD TAKE A SOLO OR SOMETHING”.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:14:16pm |
re: #28 EmmmieG
Or just want free Aerosmith tickets.
And some bread. Bread and an Aerosmith circus.
Come see Steven Tyler sing!
Come see our bearded lady, Steven Tyler!
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:15:05pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:15:46pm |
re: #32 Aceofwhat?
Come see Steven Tyler sing!
Come see our bearded lady, Steven Tyler!
Actually, he’s the rubber-faced man.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:16:19pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:16:44pm |
re: #31 negativ
err, that was supposed to be a quote of #18, but apparently my brain is more broken than I thought.
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b_sharp Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:16:47pm |
G’night slimies.
Don’t let the bedbugs bite. Eat them instead.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:17:14pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Those are probably decended from the same three who were shocked to find gambling in Rick’s Casino. ;)
They’re descended from Captain Renault?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:17:30pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:18:07pm |
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:19:19pm |
The crowd is in rare form.
It’s good to be a lizard.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:19:27pm |
Lol, some fool on the local fox affiliate said that the government won’t get bigger under the GOP.
Lol, sure, whatever chief.
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Skeetghazi Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:19:55pm |
Hey anyone watching Lakers Portland ?
Good for Keith and “free speech acording to Sr. Sarah”
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:20:09pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:21:09pm |
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:21:35pm |
re: #43 Stanley Sea
Hey anyone watching Lakers Portland ?
Good for Keith and “free speech acording to Sr. Sarah”
what channel? i don’t see it anywhere…but i might be on the wrong coast…
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:21:57pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:22:59pm |
re: #34 EmmmieG
Actually, he’s the rubber-faced man.
The real freaks are further down the row:
Paulinus Ronulus: Weird species of loon from Texas who combines anti-governmentism, racist, and religious fundamentalism into a toxic spew it sprays on any sane creature who gets near it.
Pelosium Nancini: A nasty species of shrew known for its harsh attack against any not as left-wing as it.
And lastly we come to the Stalker Monkey cage. It’s full of losers who howls in butthurt agony before indulging in a an afternoon feces fling.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:23:05pm |
Lol, touchdown Packers.
Poor Dallas.
35 to 7.
XD
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:23:55pm |
Keith Olbermann is a dick and the Cowboys are getting their asses kicked.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:23:56pm |
re: #48 Dark_Falcon
The real freaks are further down the row:
Paulinus Ronulus: Weird species of loon from Texas who combines anti-governmentism, racist, and religious fundamentalism into a toxic spew it sprays on any sane creature who gets near it.
Pelosium Nancini: A nasty species of shrew known for its harsh attack against any not as left-wing as it.
And lastly we come to the Stalker Monkey cage. It’s full of losers who howls in butthurt agony before indulging in a an afternoon feces fling.
I’m gonna leave before we get to the last cage and get some cotton candy, okay? Some things cannot be unseen.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:24:38pm |
re: #30 EmmmieG
So now he’s a jerk and a freak?
I have issues with Keith…When you spend 2 years calling out certain Americans as the worst person on Earth you might..Just might consider people that saw the heads off of Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl..
Just a thought Keith..You effen partisan bitch
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:26:13pm |
re: #52 HoosierHoops
I have issues with Keith…When you spend 2 years calling out certain Americans as the worst person on Earth you might..Just might consider people that saw the heads off of Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl..
Just a thought Keith..You effen partisan bitch
Straight talk.
Eloquent.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:27:25pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:27:32pm |
re: #53 researchok
Straight talk.
Eloquent.
I went to upding and forgot I had already updinged that comment.
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Skeetghazi Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:28:39pm |
re: #46 Aceofwhat?
what channel? i don’t see it anywhere…but i might be on the wrong coast…
direct tv
West coast thingy i’m sure
45 - 26
Greg Oden sitting in the stands (fail)
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:29:00pm |
re: #56 EmmmieG
I went to upding and forgot I had already updinged that comment.
His comment was a cold reminder- and necessary.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:30:07pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:30:30pm |
re: #49 Varek Raith
Lol, touchdown Packers.
Poor Dallas.
35 to 7.
XD
Rats. I’d much have preferred it if Dallas had won. All three of the in-contention teams in the NFC North won today, but of course the man everyone will talk about is Brett Farve.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:31:44pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:31:59pm |
re: #59 researchok
His comment was a cold reminder- and necessary.
A cold reminder of what?
That the terrorist want us dead and kill?
That’s obvious.
Are they an existential threat?
Hardly.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:32:42pm |
re: #60 Alouette
Keith Olbermann is indignant and Ms. Precious Purrfect is innocent.
gmta, my good lady
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:34:19pm |
re: #52 HoosierHoops
I have issues with Keith…When you spend 2 years calling out certain Americans as the worst person on Earth you might..Just might consider people that saw the heads off of Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl..
Just a thought Keith..You effen partisan bitch
You are right to make those remarks.
We are not meant to go through life devoid of emotions. When appropriate, we are right to happy, sad, angry or hurt. And we are right not to forget the events that inspired those emotions.
That’s why I can’t stomach Moulitsas. His remarks on those murdered Americans are unforgivable.
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:35:50pm |
re: #63 Varek Raith
A cold reminder of what?
That the terrorist want us dead and kill?
That’s obvious.
Are they an existential threat?
Hardly.
It is a reminder that there are those who want us to sit down with the people who do those kind of things or support them as equals.
They are not our equals.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:37:59pm |
I’m going to leave my Cowboys to their comeback and go to bed.
I have confidence.
G’night Knuckleheads.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:38:22pm |
re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m going to leave my Cowboys to their comeback and go to bed.
I have confidence.
G’night Knuckleheads.
Lol, optimist.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:38:48pm |
re: #66 researchok
It is a reminder that there are those who want us to sit down with the people who do those kind of things or support them as equals.
They are not our equals.
Exactly. They are vermin and should be exterminated as vermin.
Note: That applies to Islamist terrorists only, not to any non-violent person (Muslim or otherwise).
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:40:08pm |
re: #66 researchok
It is a reminder that there are those who want us to sit down with the people who do those kind of things or support them as equals.
They are not our equals.
It’s also a double edged sword.
I’m just tired of hearing how terrorism is capable of bringing us to our annihilation.
It’s ludicrous.
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:41:24pm |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. They are vermin and should be exterminated as vermin.
Note: That applies to Islamist terrorists only, not to any non-violent person (Muslim or otherwise).
Anyone who believes that violence is a form of legitimate expression is not a moral person. Anyone who supports those who use violence as a form of political expression is immoral as well.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:41:49pm |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. They are vermin and should be exterminated as vermin.
Note: That applies to Islamist terrorists only, not to any non-violent person (Muslim or otherwise).
There are no human vermin. To say so lays the first brick of an oven.
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:42:04pm |
re: #70 Varek Raith
It’s also a double edged sword.
I’m just tired of hearing how terrorism is capable of bringing us to our annihilation.
It’s ludicrous.
Well, I never said or even implied that.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:42:22pm |
re: #52 HoosierHoops
I have issues with Keith…When you spend 2 years calling out certain Americans as the worst person on Earth you might..Just might consider people that saw the heads off of Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl..
Just a thought Keith..You effen partisan bitch
Because Situation”x” was terrible, any situation less terrible than Situation “x” can only be derided at risk of ridicule. Got it.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:42:26pm |
re: #63 Varek Raith
A cold reminder of what?
That the terrorist want us dead and kill?
That’s obvious.
Are they an existential threat?
Hardly.
I’ve seen the pics from my son when they put down Fullujah..Women and babies used as human shields blown away protecting terrorists..
I have seen evil and death in high def.. Keith should shut the hell up..
I am deeply sorry having to post this…
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:43:17pm |
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:43:48pm |
re: #50 Mr Pancakes
Keith Olbermann is a dick and the Cowboys are getting their asses kicked.
That’s two understatements of a monumental nature.
re: #52 HoosierHoops
I have issues with Keith…When you spend 2 years calling out certain Americans as the worst person on Earth you might..Just might consider people that saw the heads off of Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl..
Just a thought Keith..You effen partisan bitch
Amen!
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:43:50pm |
re: #70 Varek Raith
It’s also a double edged sword.
I’m just tired of hearing how terrorism is capable of bringing us to our annihilation.
It’s ludicrous.
i didn’t get that. i got more of a ‘to equivocate is to forget’ vibe from his comment.
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:44:31pm |
Well this is exciting news.
Well no not really. I don’t really care one way or another.
I can’t watch the guy anyways even if I wanted too.
No MSNBC for me unless I pay more money per month to get it.
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:44:33pm |
re: #72 Decatur Deb
There are no human vermin. To say so lays the first brick of an oven.
That is true. It is also equally true that many of our adversaries are not our moral equals.
In defense of DF, using adjectives, while often ugly, is not uncommon.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:44:44pm |
I have a new science thread up
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Peter Sinclair has another great video. I think he is reading my mind with some of these posts.
The first person to really worry about AGW was Svante Arrhenius back in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. The fact that CO2 was a greenhouse gas was well established by 1896. Angstrom was another early pioneer of the theory back in the 1920s.
The basic ideas are quite easy to understand, and the science is quite firm.
An interesting fact is that we have a tremendous amount of beautiful and comprehensive data from the military. It is important to remember that very accurate temperature readings were routine and religiously taken from all over the world by the world’s navies.
In order to build an IR guided missile, of course, one must have very clear understanding of how atmospheric CO2 interacts with IR. In the 1950’s this was a very large area of research.
Of course, regular academic geology, biology, meteorology, and physics continued to advance on the problem as well.
Check out my post to read the rest.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:45:12pm |
re: #74 negativ
Because Situation”x” was terrible, any situation less terrible than Situation “x” can only be derided at risk of ridicule. Got it.
que?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:47:28pm |
re: #79 Jadespring
Well this is exciting news.
Well no not really. I don’t really care one way or another.
I can’t watch the guy anyways even if I wanted too.
No MSNBC for me unless I pay more money per month to get it.
More exciting: The Force Unleashed II is on its way to my house…i heard that the story was disappointing but i don’t really care; i just like the gameplay.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:47:31pm |
re: #75 HoosierHoops
I’ve seen the pics from my son when they put down Fullujah..Women and babies used as human shields blown away protecting terrorists..
I have seen evil and death in high def.. Keith should shut the hell up..
I am deeply sorry having to post this…
Why?
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Vambo Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:47:56pm |
re: #66 researchok
It is a reminder that there are those who want us to sit down with the people who do those kind of things or support them as equals.
They are not our equals.
Tuesday: Keith Olbermann sits down with terrorists, treats them as equals.
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:49:24pm |
re: #83 Aceofwhat?
More exciting: The Force Unleashed II is on its way to my house…i heard that the story was disappointing but i don’t really care; i just like the gameplay.
Sounds like fun. :)
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:49:39pm |
Any French speakers here? What’s the feminine word for ‘messenger’?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:50:35pm |
re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist
Any French speakers here? What’s the feminine word for ‘messenger’?
Gossipe?
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:50:36pm |
re: #83 Aceofwhat?
More exciting: The Force Unleashed II is on its way to my house…i heard that the story was disappointing but i don’t really care; i just like the gameplay.
You don’t play games like that for the story.
You play to fry stormtroopers with awesome powers.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:50:49pm |
re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist
Any French speakers here? What’s the feminine word for ‘messenger’?
messagere
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FreedomMoon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:51:26pm |
re: #65 researchok
You are right to make those remarks.
That’s why I can’t stomach Moulitsas. His remarks on those murdered Americans are unforgivable.
I try to think his attitude has changed since the Bush Derangement era, for some reason the most partisan of both sides seem to become more extreme when the other party is in power. I try to be optimistic.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:51:27pm |
re: #89 Varek Raith
You don’t play games like that for the story.
You play to fry stormtroopers with awesome powers.
that was beautiful
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:52:16pm |
I’m really trying to keep up beat and chipper right now but it appears that I’m getting sick. Started with a ticklly throat which moved to my chest and over the past hour the body aches have started along with that general over all crappy feeling. :(
I hoping that it won’t develop into a full blown case of something or another. I guess I’ll know in the morning.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:52:30pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:53:48pm |
re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist
A dank.
My NANO novel takes place in England in the early 1200s.
Is NANO the contest to write a novel in one month? If so, you’re competing with Daughter One.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:53:51pm |
re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist
A dank.
My NANO novel takes place in England in the early 1200s.
i’m looking forward to it
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:54:48pm |
re: #90 Aceofwhat?
messagere
I come up with several:
messager
telegraphiste
emissaire
some of those words have accents I can’t reproduce.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:55:11pm |
re: #85 Vambo
Tuesday: Keith Olbermann sits down with terrorists, treats them as equals.
Well, they are all well qualified to be called “assholes”.
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researchok Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:56:44pm |
re: #91 tacuba14
I try to think his attitude has changed since the Bush Derangement era, for some reason the most partisan of both sides seem to become more extreme when the other party is in power. I try to be optimistic.
Has Moulitsas ever apologized?
On his own, without prompting?
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:56:53pm |
re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist
A dank.
My NANO novel takes place in England in the early 1200s.
Did they speak French back then? Would it have been Old French or Occitan or Norman?
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FreedomMoon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:58:24pm |
re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist
Any French speakers here? What’s the feminine word for ‘messenger’?
Hehe, do you guys remembers years back the whole movement to change french fries to freedom fries? I was about 16 then, and it was then when I had my first epiphany (I was raised with politically conservative parents) that there were in fact many kooks in the right wing.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:58:29pm |
re: #97 reine.de.tout
I come up with several:
messager
telegraphiste
emissairesome of those words have accents I can’t reproduce.
messagere is what you’d call a female messenger.
oops- SFZ- don’t forget the accent. my laziness extends beyond disdain for capitalization; i often don’t bother with the accent if i have to HTML tag it.
messagère is what you want. desolé!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 7:59:19pm |
The Princess and her BFF (who is also the ying to her yang, or maybe the yang to her ying), are playing the letters game where they write a story together by having the protagonists write stories to each other.
Much to my surprise, The Princess’s princess has been poisoned and has gone in search of the anecdote rather than waiting to be saved.
Her BFF’s princess has accomplished nothing but flirting with princes.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:00:45pm |
Packers, 45
Dallas, 7
Packer interception for TD.
LOL.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:01:12pm |
re: #103 EmmmieG
The Princess and her BFF (who is also the ying to her yang, or maybe the yang to her ying), are playing the letters game where they write a story together by having the protagonists write stories to each other.
Much to my surprise, The Princess’s princess has been poisoned and has gone in search of the anecdote rather than waiting to be saved.
Her BFF’s princess has accomplished nothing but flirting with princes.
ironically, she is the anecdote;)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:02:39pm |
re: #105 Aceofwhat?
ironically, she is the anecdote;)
Ah, getting late.
You are correct, and spell check could not save me.
But both stories are completely in line with the young women and their personalities.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:03:03pm |
re: #84 Varek Raith
Why?
a couple of years ago when the 3/5th came home I posted stories of the killing of terrorists in Fallujuh.. It was ugly….I sat on the beach in Oceanside and watched Marines with tears in their eyes as we drank beer…I know my son will live with those memories his whole life..
This is Why…I deeply wish I never had to post those stories..
With all my heart
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:04:36pm |
Hypothetical here…
Do you all think that the tea wingnut types would blink or get upset if it was pointed out that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist?
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:05:17pm |
re: #108 Jadespring
Hypothetical here…
Do you all think that the tea wingnut types would blink or get upset if it was pointed out that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist?
(silly convo happening elsewhere and I’m just looking for Lizards opinions)
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:05:29pm |
re: #107 HoosierHoops
a couple of years ago when the 3/5th came home I posted stories of the killing of terrorists in Fallujuh.. It was ugly…I sat on the beach in Oceanside and watched Marines with tears in their eyes as we drank beer…I know my son will live with those memories his whole life..
This is Why…I deeply wish I never had to post those stories..
With all my heart
Sorry.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:05:42pm |
re: #106 EmmmieG
Ah, getting late.
You are correct, and spell check could not save me.
But both stories are completely in line with the young women and their personalities.
i’m sorry…it was just such a lovely little typo…i think i like it just the way you wrote it-
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Vambo Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:05:59pm |
I always thought the “Worst Persons in the World” thing was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. I mean, even a blowhard like Keith would probably see something distasteful in ranking Michelle Malkin or some other jackass next to terrorists committing violence against our troops.
re: #98 ClaudeMonet
Well, they are all well qualified to be called “assholes”.
and then that happened.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:07:06pm |
re: #108 Jadespring
Hypothetical here…
Do you all think that the tea wingnut types would blink or get upset if it was pointed out that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist?
They seem to get past “The New Colossus”.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:08:20pm |
re: #113 Decatur Deb
They seem to get past “The New Colossus”.
But that was written by one of them Joooooooos—and a wummin one at that!
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:08:48pm |
re: #108 Jadespring
Hypothetical here…
Do you all think that the tea wingnut types would blink or get upset if it was pointed out that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist?
Honest answer: i have no idea. Every time i think that they can’t get any crazier, they nominate a Christine O’Donnell or invite a Stormfront all-star to headline their next roadshow. It turns out that i’m no good at predicting crazy…
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:09:41pm |
re: #113 Decatur Deb
They seem to get past “The New Colossus”.
Neat. I didn’t know about this poem. Learn something new everyday. :)
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:11:56pm |
re: #108 Jadespring
Hypothetical here…
Do you all think that the tea wingnut types would blink or get upset if it was pointed out that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist?
Either deny history (hey it works wonders for the Texas board of education) or try to say the pledge is bad now because of its socialist influence.
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:13:20pm |
re: #115 Aceofwhat?
Honest answer: i have no idea. Every time i think that they can’t get any crazier, they nominate a Christine O’Donnell or invite a Stormfront all-star to headline their next roadshow. It turns out that i’m no good at predicting crazy…
Yeah that’s basically what the discussion is about. General talk about the general meme of purging all things ‘socialist’ sounding etc etc that’s going on and then someone quipped ‘Guess that means the Pledge will end up on the chopping block at some point’ (as a joke) and then some pondering about whether it would get so bad that something like that would even be possible.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:13:39pm |
re: #95 Decatur Deb
Is NANO the contest to write a novel in one month? If so, you’re competing with Daughter One.
Yep, that’s the one. The more the merrier!
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:14:50pm |
re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist
Yep, that’s the one. The more the merrier!
You are well matched, both bright teachers of an age.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:15:30pm |
re: #100 Alouette
Did they speak French back then? Would it have been Old French or Occitan or Norman?
The Jews speak Norman French to the aristocracy, and English to others. And Hebrew in some settings, of course. My kidnapped teenager is sending messages in French written in Hebrew letters, hoping to avoid being understood if intercepted.
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Jadespring Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:15:43pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:16:25pm |
re: #121 SanFranciscoZionist
The Jews speak Norman French to the aristocracy, and English to others. And Hebrew in some settings, of course. My kidnapped teenager is sending messages in French written in Hebrew letters, hoping to avoid being understood if intercepted.
Listening…taking notes…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:17:24pm |
re: #101 tacuba14
Hehe, do you guys remembers years back the whole movement to change french fries to freedom fries? I was about 16 then, and it was then when I had my first epiphany (I was raised with politically conservative parents) that there were in fact many kooks in the right wing.
I remember Freedom Fries. I also remember all the Freedom Fry jokes.
Freedom lavender, freedom cuffs, freedom horn, freedom kissing, freedom dip sandwiches, freedom onion soup…
It made me a little more tolerant when Iranian bakeries started calling Danish “Roses of the Prophet Mohammed Pastries”.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:17:50pm |
re: #102 Aceofwhat?
messagere is what you’d call a female messenger.
oops- SFZ- don’t forget the accent. my laziness extends beyond disdain for capitalization; i often don’t bother with the accent if i have to HTML tag it.
messagère is what you want. desolé!
Ah, thanks.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:18:49pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:18:52pm |
re: #108 Jadespring
Hypothetical here…
Do you all think that the tea wingnut types would blink or get upset if it was pointed out that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist?
I don’t know. They turned on Helen Keller.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:19:29pm |
re: #113 Decatur Deb
They seem to get past “The New Colossus”.
They don’t LIKE “The New Colossus”. It’s all about letting immigrants into the United States.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:20:23pm |
re: #101 tacuba14
Hehe, do you guys remembers years back the whole movement to change french fries to freedom fries? I was about 16 then, and it was then when I had my first epiphany (I was raised with politically conservative parents) that there were in fact many kooks in the right wing.
I was 16 that year too.. Crazy stuff. It’s a funny irony that one of the Congressmen who proposed naming the french fries in the congressional cafeteria is now a hardcore Ron Paul style Republican now. And the other guy was beaten for reelection.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:20:31pm |
re: #128 SanFranciscoZionist
They don’t LIKE “The New Colossus”. It’s all about letting immigrants into the United States.
Boat immigrants=Good.
Pickup immigrants=Bad.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:21:02pm |
re: #118 Jadespring
Yeah that’s basically what the discussion is about. General talk about the general meme of purging all things ‘socialist’ sounding etc etc that’s going on and then someone quipped ‘Guess that means the Pledge will end up on the chopping block at some point’ (as a joke) and then some pondering about whether it would get so bad that something like that would even be possible.
one positive lesson that i took from the NV senate race: they would have rather elected Gumby over Reid, and he still beat Angle by five points. we’ll put up with some crazy in our gubmint, but the obvious crazy was refudiated last week. so that gave me some hope.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:23:04pm |
re: #131 Aceofwhat?
one positive lesson that i took from the NV senate race: they would have rather elected Gumby over Reid, and he still beat Angle by five points. we’ll put up with some crazy in our gubmint, but the obvious crazy was refudiated last week. so that gave me some hope.
Yeah. The worst of the worst failed, assuming Miller is toast. Something, anyway.
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FreedomMoon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:24:24pm |
re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist
I remember Freedom Fries. I also remember all the Freedom Fry jokes.
Freedom lavender, freedom cuffs, freedom horn, freedom kissing, freedom dip sandwiches, freedom onion soup…
It made me a little more tolerant when Iranian bakeries started calling Danish “Roses of the Prophet Mohammed Pastries”.
Ahh, the good ol’ freedom kiss. Nothing says passion like wet, tongue-tying freedom.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:26:31pm |
re: #132 Decatur Deb
Yeah. The worst of the worst failed, assuming Miller is toast. Something, anyway.
If it helps, 90% of the republicans that i bump in to aren’t sad that Angle, O’Donnell et al didn’t win…they’re sad that it’s who we ran in the first place.
so if my little unofficial sample of overheard conversations in Florida and Ohio is in any way representative, we may not be driving the car off of the cliff.
OTOH, if i’m just lucky to be around unusually sensible folks, don’t tell me. i don’t want to know/
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:26:44pm |
The Freedom Fries thing was so ridiculous. I actually briefly worked in Congress in 2005 (I live near DC and my high school had a really cool poli sci program) Anyhow, there would be some days where I’d actually eat in the cafteria and this was uh 2 years or so after the Iraq War began and there promiently was freedom fries displayed on the menu. Fries weren’t bad that said but it was so stupid. I mean this was Congress not some business. I am not a Francophile but the anti French backlash in 2002-2003 was some of the most reactionary and stupid crap i’ve ever seen.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:30:19pm |
re: #135 HappyWarrior
The Freedom Fries thing was so ridiculous. I actually briefly worked in Congress in 2005 (I live near DC and my high school had a really cool poli sci program) Anyhow, there would be some days where I’d actually eat in the cafteria and this was uh 2 years or so after the Iraq War began and there promiently was freedom fries displayed on the menu. Fries weren’t bad that said but it was so stupid. I mean this was Congress not some business. I am not a Francophile but the anti French backlash in 2002-2003 was some of the most reactionary and stupid crap i’ve ever seen.
In my neck of the woods, everyone just laughed. And made jokes about freedom kissing.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:32:58pm |
re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist
In my neck of the woods, everyone just laughed. And made jokes about freedom kissing.
It was more amusing to me than offensive too. I just remember the CEO of French’s mustard came out and felt the need to clarify that his product was not French but merely it was his last name. Silly stuff really. It was like something out of South Park.
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FreedomMoon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:34:10pm |
re: #135 HappyWarrior
It’s funny how societies as a whole react, and lash back towards perceived differences. When we wandered around as tribes for hundreds of thousands of years, we were conditioned to distrust others and be xenophobic. So really these people are just acting out on the lowest denominator of ignorance—the same logic can be applied to those who rape and commit murder.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:34:29pm |
re: #138 HappyWarrior
It was more amusing to me than offensive too. I just remember the CEO of French’s mustard came out and felt the need to clarify that his product was not French but merely it was his last name. Silly stuff really. It was like something out of South Park.
I am still fond of my freedom coffee press.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:37:29pm |
re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist
In my neck of the woods, everyone just laughed. And made jokes about freedom kissing.
My very first kiss was from a girl who had studied in Vevay.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:38:20pm |
re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist
I am still fond of my freedom coffee press.
Gonna need a whole lot of Freedom Vanilla coffee to keep up tonight to study for my test :).
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HappyWarrior Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:40:10pm |
re: #139 tacuba14
It’s funny how societies as a whole react, and lash back towards perceived differences. When we wandered around as tribes for hundreds of thousands of years, we were conditioned to distrust others and be xenophobic. So really these people are just acting out on the lowest denominator of ignorance—the same logic can be applied to those who rape and commit murder.
Yeah, well you know, as a student of history, the whole changing the name of things we don’t like because of an association with an enemy goes back to at least world war I when Sauerkraut became liberty cabbage.
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FreedomMoon Sun, Nov 7, 2010 8:45:08pm |
re: #143 HappyWarrior
My country ‘tis of thee, sweet land of Germany,
Of thee I sing.
I love your saurkraut, run down the streets and shout,
“Hotsy, totsy, I’m a Nazi!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Nov 7, 2010 9:00:14pm |
re: #143 HappyWarrior
Yeah, well you know, as a student of history, the whole changing the name of things we don’t like because of an association with an enemy goes back to at least world war I when Sauerkraut became liberty cabbage.
They called dachshunds ‘dash hounds’, at the same time, and they became a very unpopular breed pretty much overnight. And German Shepherds, in England, were relabeled “Alsatian Wolf Dogs”.
Because people are IDIOTS.
Oh, yes, and they also, swear to God, referred to ‘liberty measles’.
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theheat Sun, Nov 7, 2010 9:51:05pm |
“Gee, Keith, how can I miss you when you won’t go away?”
That was brief. And I wasn’t missing him. The whole thing appears to be an impossibly meh moment.
KO must have lawyered up.
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deranged cat Sun, Nov 7, 2010 10:47:52pm |
“proper punishment”? the last time i heard that was in school when i forgot my book or someone was caught cheating. that seems like a weird thing to say.
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Radical Rafe Mon, Nov 8, 2010 4:01:14am |
What would MSNBC do without Fox News? What would they have to talk about?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 8, 2010 12:43:41pm |
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Radical Rafe Mon, Nov 8, 2010 5:57:24pm |
re: #149 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, I think it’s great that they’d do an in-depth report on Anwar Al-Awlaki…oh, wait.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 8, 2010 7:52:51pm |
re: #150 Radical Rafe
Nope, sorry. That one I linked was an in depth report on thoroughly evil, dishonest scumbags like Mark Gietzen, Randall Terry, Troy Newman, demonstrably anti-freedom, anti-American organizations like Operation Rescue, and the terrorists, murderers, and assassins they inspire.
You know, domestic terrorists and the network of pernicious theocrats that brainwash and enable them. The American/Fundamentalist Christian Taliban, as some call it.
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Radical Rafe Tue, Nov 9, 2010 3:48:22am |
re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth
Yes, I do know. What’s the ratio of dead Americans at the hands of the American/Fundamentalist Christian Taliban to those dead at the hands of the, you know, real Taliban/Al Qaeda and their networks of brainwashing pernicious theocrats?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Nov 9, 2010 11:08:44am |
re: #152 Radical Rafe
I get it. You are unconcerned with the actions of domestic terrorists inspired by a network anti-American, Xtian fundamentalists much the same way as radical Islamists might be unconcerned with the actions of al qaeda.
That, or you just really love moving the goal posts in the middle of a discussion.
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