GOP Leaders Cool to the Idea of Persecuting Scientists

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We’ve had several posts about reports that various GOP politicians were making noises about holding circus-like “investigations” into the science of global warming. But today Greg Sargent has some possible good news on that front; apparently the party’s leadership is cool to the idea.

Separately, the GOP leadership is apparently aware what a circus hearings into the allegedly fraudulent science underlying global warming would be — and how it would play into Dem efforts to paint Republicans as hostage to extremists.

“It’s just not the best strategy,” a senior GOP aide says. “The most effective way to fight the national energy tax is to talk about the economic effect and jobs.”

So you’re certainly going to see Republicans use the machinery of government to push the case that action on the environment is devastating to the economy. And no doubt there will be bit of grandstanding at these hearings from select GOPers about global warming perhaps being a hoax. But no hearings as of yet are being planned that would focus specifically on the science underlying global warming.

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mojo9 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:38:23pm

“It’s just not the best strategy,” a senior GOP aide says
No shit, Sherlock!

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:39:32pm

but the GOP is a hostage to the extremists. They really are facing a sword of damocles on this. If they don't hold investigations then their base will go nuts since that is, in part, what the base wants. If they do hold the investigations then they are shown to be just as nuts as their base. With all they've done I will enjoy watching them squirm.

Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:43:21pm

But no hearings as of yet are being planned that would focus specifically on the science underlying global warming.

Give it time. There will be hearings. Especially if wingnuts like this guy gets into posistion of power

Taqyia2Me Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:44:40pm

Given our country's past, what with that one river that was on fire, acid rain and pretty much the whole town of Chatanooga (sp)...being against AGW in that manner would be monumentally stupid.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:44:56pm

So you’re certainly going to see Republicans use the machinery of government to push the case that action on the environment is devastating to the economy.

I have a solution for this, though it may be impractical. I'm certainly no economist, so I may just be talking out my ass. But...

Unprecedented tax incentives for companies doing the hard R&D on green energy solutions, with further tax incentives tied to hiring employees. Would something like that work?

Political Atheist Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:48:34pm

The status quo has far more power than anyone on the campaign trail admits. Not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush, and certainly not this crop of T party winners.

So, after Obama giving in to reality on Bush policy after Bush policy, we still expected the TP rhetoric on the road to overwhelm the status quo? Excuse me but the reality check will not bounce. This makes wishful thinking look good by comparison

RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:49:12pm

Looks like the Obama administration might have just pulled a Bill Clinton on the Republicans.

$4 trillion in deficit cuts proposed

In their report, Bowles and Simpson offer ideas for consideration by the commission:

Set targets for revenue and spending: The report recommends that taxes be capped at 21% of gross domestic product. It would also limit federal spending initially to 22% of the economy and eventually to 21%.

Rein in spending: The report proposes $200 billion in domestic and defense spending cuts in 2015. (Deficit fighting: The first cut is the deepest)

Reform tax code: The report would lower income tax rates and simplify the tax code. It would abolish the Alternative Minimum Tax -- the so-called wealth tax -- and reduce tax breaks.

Change Social Security: The report aims to make Social Security solvent over 75 years through a number of measures, including a less generous annual cost-of-living adjustment for benefits, and a very slow rise in the retirement age (from 67 to 68 by 2050; rising to 69 by 2075).

freetoken Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:51:26pm

As I suggested earlier, Boehner and Cantor realize how stupid this whole venture could become, yet they will have a hard time containing the likes of Sensenbrenner, Barton, and Hall because of the seniority (and determination) of those 3.

One of the potential eggs on the GOP face would come when it is revealed to the public that one of Barton's previous key witnesses (in Barton's attack on Prof. Mann) is himself under investigation for academic fraud (including his smears of Mann) at GMU.

Blue Shark Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:52:31pm

...These tea-booger fools' grandkids will have to live on planet Earth long after they are gone. Think any one of them thought about that?

Lidane Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:53:47pm

re: #2 Dreggas

If they don't hold investigations then their base will go nuts since that is, in part, what the base wants.

And yet, that same base has nowhere else to go politically. The Tea Party types aren't stupid enough to break away from the GOP because election laws favor the two major parties, and it's easier to get a candidate on the ballot as part of the Republicans than on their own.

What will ultimately happen is the same thing that ALWAYS happens-- the socons, the idiots, and the rubes will fall for all the Fox News style grandstanding on the issues, then get told that any failure is because of liberals/Democrats/the Flying Spaghetti Monster/The Daily Show incorrectly spinning things. And they'll keep voting against their own interests and for the R's because they don't know any better.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:55:22pm

Joe Barton plans to defend the old fashioned light bulb

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:55:47pm

re: #7 RadicalModerate

But, but, but... DEFICIT SPENDING CUTS IZ SOCIALIZM!!11ty
/

Lidane Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:56:04pm

re: #11 Dreggas

Joe Barton is an idiot. Fuck him, especially after he defended BP.

freetoken Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:57:16pm

BTW, the comments on that WP piece is indicative of the effectiveness of keeping talking points simple. In this particular case the denier-talking points are getting reworked and reworked because anything more complex is beyond the Tea Partiers.

freetoken Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:57:59pm

re: #12 Slumbering Behemoth

But, but, but... DEFICIT SPENDING CUTS IZ SOCIALIZM!!11ty
/

MUZLIM SOCIALIZM!!

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:58:55pm

Interesting. What we are seeing is the GOP refuse a head on confrontation with the scientists who are pissed off to a person and will go all over the place talking about how stupid the GOP is. Instead they will try to do anything but talk about the science as a plank and go for misinformation about the economy.

Either way their goal is to prevent any action being done.

The clock is still ticking.

But, this is a small victory for science. We know that the GOP are pussies when it comes to an up and up fight.

freetoken Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:00:02pm

BTW, even if that article at WP is true and Barton himself may not hold a hearing specifically into the "fraudulent" nature of AGW, that doesn't mean another committee will not. Hall is just as likely to do it as Barton.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:00:14pm

re: #11 Dreggas

Joe Barton plans to defend the old fashioned light bulb

My question is, if all incandescent light bulbs are to be completely phased out by a certain date, what will we be able to use to replace the light bulbs in our appliances?

I sure as hell ain't putting a CFL in my oven, so what is the alternative?

Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:00:24pm

How long before the Tea Party attacks him for compromising?

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:01:00pm

re: #4 Taqyia2Me

Given our country's past, what with that one river that was on fire, acid rain and pretty much the whole town of Chatanooga (sp)...being against AGW in that manner would be monumentally stupid.

Ohhh but they are that monumentally stupid and worse. However, they don't think they have the pull yet to safely pull off an open witch hunt, without control of the senate and Obama in office.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:03:13pm

re: #11 Dreggas

Joe Barton plans to defend the old fashioned light bulb

This is one of those WTF things. The curly bulbs are better in absolutely every way. They last longer by orders of magnitude, give more light, use vastly less power to do so.

How could anyone be opposed to them?

Because they are green - in the real sense of being a practical solution - and anything labeled green must be bad!

MORON

Virginia Plain Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:03:38pm

I was expecting lunacy from the GOP but I didn't expect a sort of Spanish Inquisition

Youtube Video

Virginia Plain Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:04:53pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

LEDs are also growing in prominence in the light bulb market, and they last for even longer than CFC bulbs. In addition, they're safer. CFCs have mercury in them.

bratwurst Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:05:15pm

Beck's fear mongering hour is underway. Where did this meme about hyper food inflation come from? I am in the supermarket twice a week every single week. I have not noticed any increase in the last year...at all.

Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:06:47pm

re: #24 bratwurst

Beck's fear mongering hour is underway. Where did this meme about hyper food inflation come from? I am in the supermarket twice a week every single week. I have not noticed any increase in the last year...at all.

I think they have a hat they throw buzzwords into, pick 3 or 4 at random each week and just run with it

Taqyia2Me Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:07:37pm

re: #20 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohhh but they are that monumentally stupid and worse. However, they don't think they have the pull yet to safely pull off an open witch hunt, without control of the senate and Obama in office.

Man, I am praying they either change or never get the power to pull their shenanigans.

freetoken Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:08:44pm

What the WP article doesn't mention is that E&C is just one of 4 committees that could take on science.

Over at Oversight and Government Reform, Issa want's to take charge and Issa has explicitly said he wants to open a "climategate" hearing.

Over at Science and Technology Hall has stated that he wants to look into scientist misconduct.

The GOP over at Natural Resources will make sure that whatever EPA does it will not affect the oil and coal industry.

There's more to the story than what Sargent has covered.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:10:25pm

re: #27 freetoken

What the WP article doesn't mention is that E&C is just one of 4 committees that could take on science.

Over at Oversight and Government Reform, Issa want's to take charge and Issa has explicitly said he wants to open a "climategate" hearing.

Over at Science and Technology Hall has stated that he wants to look into scientist misconduct.

The GOP over at Natural Resources will make sure that whatever EPA does it will not affect the oil and coal industry.

There's more to the story than what Sargent has covered.

It is hardly over. I am still expecting a witch hunt. I should have written that some GOPers are seeing that this will be a losing fight for them.

Taqyia2Me Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:10:48pm

re: #24 bratwurst

Beck's fear mongering hour is underway. Where did this meme about hyper food inflation come from? I am in the supermarket twice a week every single week. I have not noticed any increase in the last year...at all.

Here in flyover country, crop yield estimates for this year have been lowered twice in recent weeks...

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:11:45pm

calling off the hounds, but for the wrong reasons....do not trust these words

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:12:26pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

They last longer by orders of magnitude, give more light, use vastly less power to do so.

They also give off only a fraction of the heat that an incandescent bulb does, which in my case has the added effect of keeping the heat down in my place, contributing to slightly less of a burden of my AC during the summer.

But I still want to know what I'm gonna be able to use to replace the lights in my stove or in my fridge.

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:13:19pm

re: #24 bratwurst

Beck's fear mongering hour is underway. Where did this meme about hyper food inflation come from? I am in the supermarket twice a week every single week. I have not noticed any increase in the last year...at all.

I have...prices for food has gone up every year for five years, maybe because ABQ is relatively remote

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:16:22pm

re: #32 albusteve

I have...prices for food has gone up every year for five years, maybe because ABQ is relatively remote

Atlanta's not "remote", and I'm paying more for the same stuff I was a year ago

I.E. ,, Krogers used to have a gallon of milk on sale most weeks for $1.99 (in the supermarket biz, it's called a "loss leader",, entices you into the store for that "bargain" in the hopes that while you're there you'll buy lots of other stuff)

Milk has stayed steady "on sale" at Krogers for $2.49 now for months

JeffFX Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:16:56pm

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

But I still want to know what I'm gonna be able to use to replace the lights in my stove or in my fridge.

appliance lamps up to 40 watts are exempt from the new energy law and will not be phased out.
[Link: money.usnews.com...]

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:17:30pm

Over at Oversight and Government Reform, Issa want's to take charge and Issa has explicitly said he wants to open a "climategate" hearing.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

here's the skinny

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:17:47pm

re: #34 JeffFX

appliance lamps up to 40 watts are exempt from the new energy law and will not be phased out.
[Link: money.usnews.com...]

Good stuff,, thanks (I was kind of wondering about that too)

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:18:21pm

re: #34 JeffFX

Oh, thank you for that link Jeff. Thank you.

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:19:05pm

re: #33 sattv4u2

Atlanta's not "remote", and I'm paying more for the same stuff I was a year ago

I.E. ,, Krogers used to have a gallon of milk on sale most weeks for $1.99 (in the supermarket biz, it's called a "loss leader",, entices you into the store for that "bargain" in the hopes that while you're there you'll buy lots of other stuff)

Milk has stayed steady "on sale" at Krogers for $2.49 now for months

exact same prices here...dairy products seem really high to me...and the bread I eat is now $4 a loaf

jaydub Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:19:36pm

That's better than I originally was thinking, that the leadership was "cool with" the idea of persecuting.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:21:25pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

This is one of those WTF things. The curly bulbs are better in absolutely every way. They last longer by orders of magnitude, give more light, use vastly less power to do so.

How could anyone be opposed to them?

Because they are green - in the real sense of being a practical solution - and anything labeled green must be bad!

MORON

we changed most of the bulbs in the house over the last 2 years (or so). I don't mind the "curly" ones in enclosed fixtures but they STILL look odd in the end table lamps that have shades

Can't get used to them. In fact, every time I put a "curly" one in my sons nighstand lamp, he changes it back

Ah well ,, with everything else we've done around the house to be energy efficient, I indulge him his lil quirk!

jaydub Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:22:08pm

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

In all likelihood, high output LEDs

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:23:23pm

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

But I still want to know what I'm gonna be able to use to replace the lights in my stove or in my fridge

Just light a match and stick your head in!!
/

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:23:30pm

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

They also give off only a fraction of the heat that an incandescent bulb does, which in my case has the added effect of keeping the heat down in my place, contributing to slightly less of a burden of my AC during the summer.

But I still want to know what I'm gonna be able to use to replace the lights in my stove or in my fridge.

LEDs would be great and it would not even be hard to wire them in. You would need to do a little electronics to insure they don't get fried, but ti would work and save energy for you that way as well - and also be brighter.

Political Atheist Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:23:34pm

re: #7 RadicalModerate
All this sense to me. The S/S age rise should probably be faster.

Set targets for revenue and spending: The report recommends that taxes be capped at 21% of gross domestic product. It would also limit federal spending initially to 22% of the economy and eventually to 21%.

Rein in spending: The report proposes $200 billion in domestic and defense spending cuts in 2015. (Deficit fighting: The first cut is the deepest)

Reform tax code: The report would lower income tax rates and simplify the tax code. It would abolish the Alternative Minimum Tax -- the so-called wealth tax -- and reduce tax breaks.

Change Social Security: The report aims to make Social Security solvent over 75 years through a number of measures, including a less generous annual cost-of-living adjustment for benefits, and a very slow rise in the retirement age (from 67 to 68 by 2050; rising to 69 by 2075).

Political Atheist Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:24:20pm

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

PIMF All this made sense to me...

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:24:28pm

If they believe Global Warming is a hoax, and crooked scientists are on the take stealing billions in taxpayer dollars, why wouldn't there be inquiries?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:27:05pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

This is one of those WTF things. The curly bulbs are better in absolutely every way. They last longer by orders of magnitude, give more light, use vastly less power to do so.

How could anyone be opposed to them?

Because they are green - in the real sense of being a practical solution - and anything labeled green must be bad!

MORON

Not EVERY way, they're not so great for art, the color temperature of the light's too cold, the character of it is different

I have the curly bulbs everywhere but the studio room!

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:27:45pm

re: #41 jaydub

re: #43 LudwigVanQuixote

I like the idea of LEDs taking off. Those things take very little energy and last like a mo-fo. Also, they much more closely emulate natural sunlight than CFLs. That's something of interest to people who enjoy doing things like oil painting.

Heh, and now I am reminded that I have some outdoor lights that need replacing. Catch y'all laters.

mojo9 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:29:28pm

re: #23 Virginia Plain

LEDs are absolutely the way. They're finding their way into automotive use, traffic lights, and limited household applications. Streetlight use would cut power comsumption exponentially. I'm just waiting for that brilliant moonglow cast to be remedied to use them in the house.

allegro Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:29:36pm

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

Change Social Security: The report aims to make Social Security solvent over 75 years through a number of measures, including a less generous annual cost-of-living adjustment for benefits, and a very slow rise in the retirement age (from 67 to 68 by 2050; rising to 69 by 2075).

Much more simply, the cap on SS payments could be lifted from the $106,000 (or whatever the exact number is) and no age increase for benefits would be needed.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:30:21pm

re: #47 WindUpBird

Not EVERY way, they're not so great for art, the color temperature of the light's too cold, the character of it is different

I have the curly bulbs everywhere but the studio room!

100% agree

Again, in an enclosed fixture,,, neat

In a lamp that has a shade, not so much! (#40). Sitting in bed to read with the nightstand lamp on, the ambiance makes me think I'm about to take out someones tonsils!

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:31:56pm

re: #49 mojo9

LEDs are absolutely the way. They're finding their way into automotive use, traffic lights, and limited household applications. Streetlight use would cut power comsumption exponentially. I'm just waiting for that brilliant moonglow cast to be remedied to use them in the house.

Okay, here's my thing about LEDs, they're awesome, but the light off white LEDs is SUPER harsh, great for emergencies or industrial settings, but there's just this character they have (light frequency, I dunno, I'm not a scientist) that makes me cringe

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:32:37pm

re: #49 mojo9

LEDs are absolutely the way. They're finding their way into automotive use, traffic lights, and limited household applications. Streetlight use would cut power comsumption exponentially. I'm just waiting for that brilliant moonglow cast to be remedied to use them in the house.

The lack of heat from LEDs are a great energy savings, along with the other efficiencies.

Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:36:12pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

This is one of those WTF things. The curly bulbs are better in absolutely every way. They last longer by orders of magnitude, give more light, use vastly less power to do so.

How could anyone be opposed to them?

Because they are green - in the real sense of being a practical solution - and anything labeled green must be bad!

MORON

They look silly in my dining room chandelier.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:37:08pm

re: #51 sattv4u2

100% agree

Again, in an enclosed fixture,,, neat

In a lamp that has a shade, not so much! (#40). Sitting in bed to read with the nightstand lamp on, the ambiance makes me think I'm about to take out someones tonsils!

Yeah I go with enclosed fixtures and paper lanterns and such, that warms everything up a bit better

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:37:37pm

re: #50 allegro

Much more simply, the cap on SS payments could be lifted from the $106,000 (or whatever the exact number is) and no age increase for benefits would be needed.

That'd be nice!

Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:37:51pm

Here is a chart that gives dome tips on choosing the right CCFL for the job.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:38:07pm

re: #54 Alouette

They look silly in my dining room chandelier.

eewww,, One plce we still have the old ones (that look like candles) is there

I will NEVER put curly ones there,, NEVER !!!
They'll have to rip out my fixture,,THEY WON'T TAKE ME ALIVE,,, BBBBWWWAAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

mojo9 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:38:20pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

I've got an LED headlamp that i use camping. I use that thing a lot. Three AAA batteries will last two seasons easily.

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:38:39pm

Conservative columnist displays his integrity

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:40:10pm

re: #59 mojo9

I've got an LED headlamp that i use camping. I use that thing a lot. Three AAA batteries will last two seasons easily.

HeHe me too. I use my headlamps all the time. My wife makes fun but I'm the one laughing with 2 hands at my disposal.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:40:20pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

The lack of heat from LEDs are a great energy savings, along with the other efficiencies.

Unless, of course,, you WANT heat

Ahh,, New England ,,, February ,,,,, wind howling,, me, walking by my (at the time) old drafty windows ,,,, fond memories!!!

lostlakehiker Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:40:37pm

re: #1 mojo9

“It’s just not the best strategy,” a senior GOP aide says
No shit, Sherlock!

It's not the best strategy because if Republicans insist on making an issue of the matter, the upshot will be that Galileo wins. It's a pity that the party leadership has just enough sense to not jump the shark, but too little sense to draw the necessary conclusion and get cracking on solving what is slated to become a massive civil defense problem.

re: #50 allegro

Much more simply, the cap on SS payments could be lifted from the $106,000 (or whatever the exact number is) and no age increase for benefits would be needed.

That's not so "simple". As things now stand, there's a certain simple justice to social security. You pay in, and you draw out, and there's some sort of connection to how much you pay in and how much, actuarially, you might draw out.

This connection is severed completely if those with high incomes must pay on all their income, but draw based only on the first 106000 of it. If you lift the "draw" ceiling as well as the "pay" ceiling, you actually put SS into a bigger hole.

Raising the cap like that is just a back door trick. If you want to raise income tax rates, raise them through the front door if you have the votes.

As to LED's, they're still somewhat expensive. I'm trying one out, and I've got it set up to where I like the result, but it does throw a fairly tight cone of light and that makes LED bulbs, the ones now on the market, imperfect solutions to area lighting tasks.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:40:55pm

re: #61 Amory Blaine

HeHe me too. I use my headlamps all the time. My wife makes fun but I'm the one laughing with 2 hands at my disposal.

I'm not EVEN going to venture a guess as to why !?!!!

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TedStriker Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:41:14pm

re: #60 Amory Blaine

Conservative columnist displays his integrity

Not to rag on you, but it's OFN...Charles already got that.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:41:26pm

re: #60 Amory Blaine

Conservative columnist displays his integrity

I sorta get the idea that guy has sorta checked out of politics proper, and is just into being as big a dick to the guy who has the success he craves

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:41:32pm

During the spring, Holder said he expected the issue to be resolved within a matter of weeks, but no decision was announced and eventually Holder began telling reporters who inquired that he wouldn't want to put a timeline on it. So, the new statement is a change. Many observers, including some who favor a military commission trial for the five men, said they suspected the Obama administration intentionally put the issue on ice to avoid it becoming an issue of dispute in the midterm elections.

remember Khalid Mohammed?...Holder is all over it again

[Link: www.politico.com...]

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:41:57pm

re: #61 Amory Blaine

HeHe me too. I use my headlamps all the time. My wife makes fun but I'm the one laughing with 2 hands at my disposal.

Those are SO USEFUL at Burning Man

though it's a pain when you talk to someone, because now you have an evil LED light in their face :D

TedStriker Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:42:22pm

re: #64 sattv4u2

I'm not EVEN going to venture a guess as to why !?!!!

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Kinda hard to fap efficiently while holding a flashlight to "read" your Playboys...

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RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:42:46pm

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

All this sense to me. The S/S age rise should probably be faster.

Change Social Security: The report aims to make Social Security solvent over 75 years through a number of measures, including a less generous annual cost-of-living adjustment for benefits, and a very slow rise in the retirement age (from 67 to 68 by 2050; rising to 69 by 2075).

By the way, one thing that you never see Republicans mention regarding tax increases, is that more (and steeper) OASDI ("Social Security") and HI ("Medicare") tax increases for the past half-century have come under Republican administrations than they have under Democrats.
[Link: www.ssa.gov...]

Likewise, the top income subject to OASDI/HI deductions has also gone up more under Republican administrations than for Dems.
[Link: www.ssa.gov...]

The ceiling income subject to tax ($106,800) is far, FAR below the income level that Republicans are pushing for their biggest tax cuts for - $250K and above.

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:42:55pm

re: #68 WindUpBird

Those are SO USEFUL at Burning Man

though it's a pain when you talk to someone, because now you have an evil LED light in their face :D

Burning Man?....don't tell me

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:43:12pm

re: #65 talon_262

My fault. I'm sorry.

Youtube Video

Political Atheist Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:43:36pm

re: #47 WindUpBird

Hmm. Photo studio vs Art Studio... I may have a source you will like for warm CFL.

I just get the 5200K CFL "curly" bulbs for my photo studio. About 8 of them. I can get warmer (3600K) art friendly tones but that would throw me off, as I need "white" light.

My LED's are too high a color temp about 6000K or distinctly blue/purplish. Still waiting for accurate LED color rendition as a light source. LED's are hard to diffuse too, bigger loss in correcting that than the CFL.

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:44:37pm

re: #68 WindUpBird

Those are SO USEFUL at Burning Man

though it's a pain when you talk to someone, because now you have an evil LED light in their face :D

My dad goes every year. He's coming for a visit tomorrow for 5 days. He's bringing his pics from this year. Always fun to look at.

Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:45:07pm

Major GOP Donor Scammed Millions With Phony Veterans Group, Authorities Say

The eccentric looking Florida man went by the name Bobby Thompson. As detailed in a report airing on World News with Diane Sawyer tonight, Thompson called his charity the U.S. Navy Veterans Association, and for eight years he raised money for the group, mostly through phone solicitations. He told donors the group was assisting needy veterans, and garnished this pitch with dollops of credibility by donating small amounts to legitimate veterans' groups.

Federal election records show he invested far more money -- more than $200,000 -- in campaign contributions to top Republican politicians, including President George W. Bush, U.S. Sen. John McCain, and the presumptive incoming Speaker of the House, John Boehner. In exchange, he received grip-and-grin snapshots with American political leaders -- the sort of photo that may be commonplace on office walls in Washington, DC, but looked to outsiders like evidence of an important man with heavy-duty connections.

Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray told ABC News that as much as $100 million donated to the charity over eight years cannot be accounted for, and Thompson was using a stolen identity. He has been indicted in Ohio and is now considered a fugitive.

"There is a national man hunt for the so-called Bobby Thompson," Cordray said. "This is in the charitable sphere what Bernie Madoff did in the investment sphere. It's shocking, and it's discouraging and it's depressing to think so many people wanted to give to veterans and in fact they were giving to this man and his sham organization."

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:45:33pm

re: #73 Rightwingconspirator

Hmm. Photo studio vs Art Studio... I may have a source you will like for warm CFL.

I just get the 5200K CFL "curly" bulbs for my photo studio. About 8 of them. I can get warmer (3600K) art friendly tones but that would throw me off, as I need "white" light.

My LED's are too high a color temp about 6000K or distinctly blue/purplish. Still waiting for accurate LED color rendition as a light source. LED's are hard to diffuse too, bigger loss in correcting that than the CFL.

Okay, this is information I can use, thanks! Now I want to just go and buy one at every color temp and see what they do, like a taste test

And yeah, LEDS are NOT ACCEPTABLE at the moment as just normal household light, they're awesome for the twinkly fairy lights and things I use for decoration

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:46:31pm

re: #74 Amory Blaine

My dad goes every year. He's coming for a visit tomorrow for 5 days. He's bringing his pics from this year. Always fun to look at.

Oh hell yeah :D Is he a themecamp/builder type?

Also, ask him if he saw The Tower Of Babel dance camp, holy damn that was like nothing I've ever seen before

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:47:33pm

re: #77 WindUpBird

Oh hell yeah :D Is he a themecamp/builder type?

Also, ask him if he saw The Tower Of Babel dance camp, holy damn that was like nothing I've ever seen before

GET OFF MY LAWN, YA CRAZY HIPPIES!

Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:47:54pm

The Most Intensely Horrible High School Girls' Hurdles Race You'll Ever See
Courage.

Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:48:07pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

GET OFF MY LAWN, YA CRAZY HIPPIES!

You need to get yourself a poo stick.

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:48:22pm

US financing Jihad...who gives a rats ass right?

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:48:25pm

re: #77 WindUpBird

Oh hell yeah :D Is he a themecamp/builder type?

Also, ask him if he saw The Tower Of Babel dance camp, holy damn that was like nothing I've ever seen before

Yeah he probably was there dancing naked.

Political Atheist Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:49:15pm

re: #76 WindUpBird

I have a great source for custom LED stuff, these guys do my "Scintillation" lights I need for diamond photography. You will love these guys, they can help you with fixtures or I can help you with gels to turn whits LED into warm or whatever tones you want. Since LED's run cool you can put them in about anything for a fixture. I even polarize them to manage reflections or "specular" lighting.

Check these guys out good people.
[Link: www.hollysolar.com...]

Petaluma, Ca

lostlakehiker Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:49:42pm

[...]

So you’re certainly going to see Republicans use the machinery of government to push the case that action on the environment is devastating to the economy. And no doubt there will be bit of grandstanding at these hearings from select GOPers about global warming perhaps being a hoax. But no hearings as of yet are being planned that would focus specifically on the science underlying global warming.
Sounds like the leadership knows that the science is correct and would hold up under any possible attack.

It's legitimate to fret about the cost of making the adjustments we must make. There are better and worse ways to get to where we need to be. And lest we forget, we aren't even the biggest player any more; that's China.

What's not legitimate is to insist that CO2 is purely and simply plant food. Oxygen is necessary for human breathing but a pure oxygen atmosphere would be most unhealthy. The levels of CO2 we're looking at over the next 50 years and more are not good for our economy. That's a cost too and it has to be reckoned. The GOP is supposed to be the party that thinks about costs. Man up, dears.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:49:48pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

The Most Intensely Horrible High School Girls' Hurdles Race You'll Ever See
Courage.

New Title

White Girls Can't Jump!

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:51:18pm

And on that note, dinner, a nap, The Middle, a nap, Modern Family (Sofia ,,, {sigh},,, a nap ,,, a shower,, off to work!

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:51:40pm

re: #84 lostlakehiker

[...]

So you’re certainly going to see Republicans use the machinery of government to push the case that action on the environment is devastating to the economy. And no doubt there will be bit of grandstanding at these hearings from select GOPers about global warming perhaps being a hoax. But no hearings as of yet are being planned that would focus specifically on the science underlying global warming.
Sounds like the leadership knows that the science is correct and would hold up under any possible attack.

It's legitimate to fret about the cost of making the adjustments we must make. There are better and worse ways to get to where we need to be. And lest we forget, we aren't even the biggest player any more; that's China.

What's not legitimate is to insist that CO2 is purely and simply plant food. Oxygen is necessary for human breathing but a pure oxygen atmosphere would be most unhealthy. The levels of CO2 we're looking at over the next 50 years and more are not good for our economy. That's a cost too and it has to be reckoned. The GOP is supposed to be the party that thinks about costs. Man up, dears.

fergetaboutit...until AGW is framed as a national security issue, nothing will get done...the feds are idiots

Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:52:53pm

re: #77 WindUpBird

He lives in Vegas and I went out to see him a while back. We went to that bar at the top of the Rio casino and met with Larry Harvey, Camera Girl, etc along with alot of the performers from the Cirque du Soleil that were there for opening night of KA.

Yeah my old man knows how to party.

yasharki Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:53:12pm

Funny how they only question "inconvenient" science, i.e. studies and theories which don't fit into their rather narrow world view. Why not question physics behind internal combustion or jet engines, things that get them from point A to point B on daily basis? After all it's all based on theories, and therefore cannot be trusted :)

Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:53:54pm

Addedum to the GOP Veteran Fraud report;

Some of the politicians continued to take donations even after irregularities with the charity were first exposed in March in detailed reports by the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R.-Minnesota, accepted contributions totaling $14,800 in April and May, according to records compiled by the Ohio Attorney General's Office.

Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:54:11pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

New Title

White Girls Can't Jump!

/

Yea... they look like shit... ain't got the coordination of a turtle... but damn... they have a hell of a lot of self-esteem.

lostlakehiker Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:54:52pm

re: #87 albusteve

fergetaboutit...until AGW is framed as a national security issue, nothing will get done...the feds are idiots

Space aliens are attacking the earth by trying to trick us out of using green energy. If they succeed, they'll have got us to poison our atmosphere and ruin our crop yields and millions will die. Don't let THEM do this to us.

/May as well be a THEM...but as Pogo said, we ourselves are doing to ourselves./

Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:55:01pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

Yea... they look like shit... ain't got the coordination of a turtle... but damn... they have a hell of a lot of self-esteem.

GOLD STARS FOR EVERYONE!

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:55:18pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

Yea... they look like shit... ain't got the coordination of a turtle... but damn... they have a hell of a lot of self-esteem.

And perseverance and character

The Future of America, Thank God

allegro Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:55:32pm

I'm still trying to figure out what measures will supposedly devastate the economy. They all look like positives to me in the long term.

sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:56:12pm

re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOLD STARS FOR EVERYONE!

They can use them to cover up the shin bruises!

albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:56:14pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

Yea... they look like shit... ain't got the coordination of a turtle... but damn... they have a hell of a lot of self-esteem.

self esteem....the bribe currency to push are children toward success...
bwahahaha!

TedStriker Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:56:30pm

re: #68 WindUpBird

Those are SO USEFUL at Burning Man

though it's a pain when you talk to someone, because now you have an evil LED light in their face :D

I take my LED headlight every camping trip I go on and use it around the house too...I've changed the batteries 2-3 times (4 coin cell lithium batteries) in almost 5 years. I have found a little LED light (and I mean little, about as big around as a AAA battery and half as long) that I keep clipped to a zipper pull on my backpack...it's brighter than my headlamp and much smaller.

Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:56:33pm

re: #94 sattv4u2

And perseverance and character

The Future of America, Thank God

Right...

I deserve good things. I am entitled to my share of happiness. I refuse to beat myself up. I am attractive person. I am fun to be with.

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reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:56:57pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

The Most Intensely Horrible High School Girls' Hurdles Race You'll Ever See
Courage.

gawd.
That was really awful.
Did anybody train those girls, or did they just stick 'em out there on that track and say "GO"?

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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:57:03pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

Right...

I deserve good things. I am entitled to my share of happiness. I refuse to beat myself up. I am attractive person. I am fun to be with.

((he says as he sits alone in his hovel!!))

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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:57:21pm

Later!

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:57:56pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

GET OFF MY LAWN, YA CRAZY HIPPIES!

hahah in ur country, making stuff glow

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reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:58:00pm

re: #92 lostlakehiker

Space aliens are attacking the earth by trying to trick us out of using green energy. If they succeed, they'll have got us to poison our atmosphere and ruin our crop yields and millions will die. Don't let THEM do this to us.

/May as well be a THEM...but as Pogo said, we ourselves are doing to ourselves./

We've met the enemy, and it is us.

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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:58:49pm

re: #98 talon_262

The only problem I'm having with my older ones is the black cushion is deteriorating and whenever I use it, it looks like Ash Wednesday.

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Slap Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:59:09pm

re: #55 WindUpBird

The curlies are no longer the only CFL types out there. GE and Westinghouse have both started making enclosed CFLs that have a dome/bulb shape (the curly is still there, just covered up).

From Amazon, a couple of links:

Westinghouse's

General Electric's

There seems to be just enough of a diffusion factor on the ones I've seen to really soften the eerie aspect of the lights. These can even be placed in enclosed fixtures.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:59:31pm

re: #100 reine.de.tout

gawd.
That was really awful.
Did anybody train those girls, or did they just stick 'em out there on that track and say "GO"?

ow OW OW OW ow ow ow

The closest I ever got to sports in jr. high was doing track, they tried to put me on the hurdles, I flat refused. "The hell I'm jumping those! Find another sucker!"

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:00:19pm

re: #106 Slap

The curlies are no longer the only CFL types out there. GE and Westinghouse have both started making enclosed CFLs that have a dome/bulb shape (the curly is still there, just covered up).

From Amazon, a couple of links:

Westinghouse's

General Electric's

There seems to be just enough of a diffusion factor on the ones I've seen to really soften the eerie aspect of the lights. These can even be placed in enclosed fixtures.

sweet! Yeah, I'll try them, I'm happy to use the flourescent bulbs, just fussy about the light character

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albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:00:50pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

We've met the enemy, and it is us.

us?....the feds more likely (and they are not 'us')

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:01:24pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

Yea... they look like shit... ain't got the coordination of a turtle... but damn... they have a hell of a lot of self-esteem.

haha without my massive ego I'd still be changing adult diapers in my health care job

sometimes self-esteem is useful ;-)

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Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:03:02pm

re: #110 WindUpBird

haha without my massive ego I'd still be changing adult diapers in my health care job

sometimes self-esteem is useful ;-)

You... ego... never noticed it...

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:03:57pm

The awesome guitars you find on Craigslist: [Link: portland.craigslist.org...]

Where's Killgore? :D

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:04:09pm

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

You... ego... never noticed it...

I know, it's a shock

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Political Atheist Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:04:34pm

re: #23 Virginia Plain

LEDs are also growing in prominence in the light bulb market, and they last for even longer than CFC bulbs. In addition, they're safer. CFCs have mercury in them.

I just put up a page for some guys that are very good at LED tech.
BTW Jewelry stores are early adopters of advanced lighting for reasons that are obvious, and expensive. :)

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Slap Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:04:39pm

re: #108 WindUpBird

I get that, totally. I kinda think that this is an illustration of how a synergy of regulations and consumer demands are driving little innovations like this.

They also make CFL bug lights!

(And floodlights....and teardrop-shaped chandelier lights....)

I suspect that the complaints of photographers will probably prompt a specialty like of warmer cfls, eventually.

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Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:04:46pm

And weather news...

It 24 degrees (f) and going down right now... 1-3 inches of snow by tomorrow evening... not much of a storm... more like a tease.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:05:19pm

Going to be a long 2 years...

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:06:22pm

re: #115 Slap

I get that, totally. I kinda think that this is an illustration of how a synergy of regulations and consumer demands are driving little innovations like this.

They also make CFL bug lights!

(And floodlights...and teardrop-shaped chandelier lights...)

I suspect that the complaints of photographers will probably prompt a specialty like of warmer cfls, eventually.

yeah I figure it'll sort itself out, technology moves so fast

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b_sharp Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:06:49pm

re: #112 WindUpBird

The awesome guitars you find on Craigslist: [Link: portland.craigslist.org...]

Where's Killgore? :D

I'd have to hear it and play it before sending money.

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Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:07:51pm

Have I mentioned lately that I'm immense and immortal?

/someone knows it

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:07:58pm

re: #119 b_sharp

I'd have to hear it and play it before sending money.

Well of course :D I just was dicking around on craigslist pondering picking the instrument back up again, and went handmade jumbo size flying V whut?

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:08:29pm

re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Have I mentioned lately that I'm immense and immortal?

/someone knows it

YOUR PUNY MOON IS NO MATCH FOR MY RAD FISTS

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Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:09:07pm

re: #117 Dreggas

Going to be a long 2 years...

Looks like I picked the wrong 2 years to stop sniffing glue.

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Kragar Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:10:09pm

re: #122 WindUpBird

YOUR PUNY MOON IS NO MATCH FOR MY RAD FISTS

...No.

/edges away from WUB

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:11:13pm

Also, there's a MIDI interface for the Iphone

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yasharki Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:11:13pm

re: #116 Walter L. Newton

Lucky you... We haven't seen much snow in NYC for a few years now, couple blizzards a year at most, which usually melt away in a day or two. Could it be that pesky AGW?

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:11:24pm

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

...No.

/edges away from WUB

>:-(

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b_sharp Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:12:09pm

re: #121 WindUpBird

Well of course :D I just was dicking around on craigslist pondering picking the instrument back up again, and went handmade jumbo size flying V whut?

I've picked up 5 guitars from e-bay. One was a mistake, one was a pleasant surprise, one was a box of parts and the other two were what I expected. I much prefer music stores and pawn shops.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:12:09pm

re: #123 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Looks like I picked the wrong 2 years to stop sniffing glue.

McCroskey!

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:13:24pm

re: #128 b_sharp

I've picked up 5 guitars from e-bay. One was a mistake, one was a pleasant surprise, one was a box of parts and the other two were what I expected. I much prefer music stores and pawn shops.

I just want a fixed bridge something that delivers goliath tones that shake the earth :D No subtlety whatsoever, I'm planning on using it as a blunt object to make noise

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Nervous Norvous Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:13:27pm

Just got home and got the mail. Jimmy Johns sent me a $100 gift card for a jingle I submitted to their website. Lunch is on me at work tomorrow.

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b_sharp Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:14:03pm

re: #125 WindUpBird

Also, there's a MIDI interface for the Iphone

Say what?

Line6 makes good equipment but - why would anyone want a MIDI controller in an I-Phone?

Don't make no sense to me.

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allegro Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:14:39pm

re: #131 PT Barnum

Lunch is on me at work tomorrow.

Wear a bib so it doesn't stain your tie. :D

(Congrats! That is so cool!)

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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:14:49pm

Anybody up for watching part 2 of Glenn Beck's Soros/New World Order conspiracy hour?

Most of the wingnut sites are ignoring Beck's big program. Brietbart Tweeted about it but the rest of the wingnuts are laying low on this one.

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albusteve Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:15:53pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Anybody up for watching part 2 of Glenn Beck's Soros/New World Order conspiracy hour?

Most of the wingnut sites are ignoring Beck's big program. Brietbart Tweeted about it but the rest of the wingnuts are laying low on this one.

not me, I'll get by somehow

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Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:17:26pm

re: #125 WindUpBird

Also, there's a MIDI interface for the Iphone

I've been pimping these two apps on the Ipod Touch/Iphone/Ipad... I bought a 2g Touch a few months ago, have really fallen in love with it... and the Pocket Organ C3B3 and Pocket Guitar (and bass) (2.99, 1.99) are just amazing...

Demo of the Pocket Organ C3B3 and Pocket Guitar (and Bass) doing an instrumental version of Deep Purple's "Burn"

Youtube Video

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Obdicut Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:17:31pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

It's too obvious anti-semitism for most people to touch. I can't watch it before it goes on the interwebs.

I'm sure it'll be full of more recycling antisemitic jabs and insane conspiracy stories.

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engineer cat Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:17:59pm

boehner is a very different person from gingrich. i expect him, given his record, to run a very old fashioned, big business as usual house of representatives. despite his tendancy to weep, he has a good sense of showmanship

i don't know, maybe my natural tendancy to optimism is getting the better of me, i just can't keep up the despair over fox news fake reality, ineradicable unemployment, and huge deficits. in my gut i expect a new eisenhower era of slow growth and boring big business republican government

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:18:58pm

re: #132 b_sharp

Say what?

Line6 makes good equipment but - why would anyone want a MIDI controller in an I-Phone?

Don't make no sense to me.

portable! You're at a party, dicking around on someone's keyboard, the midi interface is in your car, boom, get the whole thing tracked on the iphone

Some of my friends are musicians, and sometimes they come over and we screw around in the garage and jam, so hey :D

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b_sharp Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:18:58pm

re: #130 WindUpBird

I just want a fixed bridge something that delivers goliath tones that shake the earth :D No subtlety whatsoever, I'm planning on using it as a blunt object to make noise

Fixed bridge? Slim pickin's out there. Tele, some Strats, LP, some PRS. Not too many shredders.

I have a Peavey EVH where the trem sits against the body until you smack the bar. (yes you can only do dives) Only when I do massive, SRV bends does it act like other trems.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:19:49pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

I'm getting that pocket guitar doodad, that looks like a blast

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aagcobb Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:20:56pm

No witchhunt? Where is Joe McCarthy when we need him?

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:22:00pm

re: #140 b_sharp

Fixed bridge? Slim pickin's out there. Tele, some Strats, LP, some PRS. Not too many shredders.

I have a Peavey EVH where the trem sits against the body until you smack the bar. (yes you can only do dives) Only when I do massive, SRV bends does it act like other trems.

In no way am I ever going to solo :D the way I play (badly) is about what you'd expect from a drummer who listens to a lot of doom, just ARGH power chords and feedback

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b_sharp Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:24:52pm

re: #139 WindUpBird

portable! You're at a party, dicking around on someone's keyboard, the midi interface is in your car, boom, get the whole thing tracked on the iphone

Some of my friends are musicians, and sometimes they come over and we screw around in the garage and jam, so hey :D

I guess so. grumble, grumble, new fangled ..., when I was a kid ..., grumble.

I use my wife's keyboard as a controller. I'm in the process of building a system for recording, my notebook has way too much lag when I accompany myself.

I figure an AMD Phenom X4, 12GB RAM, 1.2 TB HDD (RAID 0) and an M-Audio sound card should work.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:26:12pm

re: #144 b_sharp

I guess so. grumble, grumble, new fangled ..., when I was a kid ..., grumble.

I use my wife's keyboard as a controller. I'm in the process of building a system for recording, my notebook has way too much lag when I accompany myself.

I figure an AMD Phenom X4, 12GB RAM, 1.2 TB HDD (RAID 0) and an M-Audio sound card should work.

yeah a RAID and 12 gigs, that probably roughly a thousand times as fast as the Mac that Trent Reznor wrote Downward Spiral on :D

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b_sharp Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:28:19pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

In no way am I ever going to solo :D the way I play (badly) is about what you'd expect from a drummer who listens to a lot of doom, just ARGH power chords and feedback

Love power chords. I slap on my headphones, plug them and my Peavey into my GT-6 and do just what you do, hammer the chords (and saturate the sound with harmonics).

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Ming Wed, Nov 10, 2010 3:45:47pm

A big part of America's past strength was that it often attracted the best and brightest scientists from other countries. This American advantage is already in decline, but the decline will get much worse if people all over the world can see on television scientists dragged into Congress and asked hostile and insulting questions by those who don't believe that any climate change is caused by any human activity.

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Eclectic Infidel Wed, Nov 10, 2010 4:30:40pm

re: #2 Dreggas

but the GOP is a hostage to the extremists. They really are facing a sword of damocles on this. If they don't hold investigations then their base will go nuts since that is, in part, what the base wants. If they do hold the investigations then they are shown to be just as nuts as their base. With all they've done I will enjoy watching them squirm.

Yeah. It's a win-win scenario for those of us who want the extremists in the GOP to fail.

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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 10, 2010 4:38:44pm

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

I just put up a page for some guys that are very good at LED tech.
BTW Jewelry stores are early adopters of advanced lighting for reasons that are obvious, and expensive. :)

Focusing powerful LEDs through multiple diamonds to generate a super laser effect to vaporize burglars? Using the jewelry as part of the security/defense system is very super-villainish...

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mojo9 Thu, Nov 11, 2010 4:21:01am

re: #149 oaktree

and stylish!

Spy Mode Auto

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