Jon Stewart: Missile: Impossible
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Last night’s Jon Stewart bit about the California mystery missile was a classic.
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What, me worry? Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:28:25am |
hehe Stewart does a pretty awesome Govenator, btw.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:30:34am |
The news helicopter guy filmed the contrail for 10 minutes. That puts this story to bed. A real missile would have been halfway around the world in 10 minutes.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:32:56am |
A US ICBM travels at about 15,000 mph, according to my exhaustive Google research. (OK, it was the second result for 'ICBM speed.')
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:34:27am |
Perfect time to point out that average american is no rocket scientist.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:35:04am |
In other words, the most superficial research would've put this story right to bed.
Wonder why we didn't see even the most superficial research?
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Gus Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:36:38am |
re: #4 Charles
A US ICBM travels at about 15,000 mph, according to my exhaustive Google research. (OK, it was the second result for 'ICBM speed.')
And even if it was before orbital velocity and traveling around 5000 mph in 10 minutes it would have gone 833 miles.
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:39:43am |
Heh. Allen West ditched the crazy lady.
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:40:18am |
re: #6 ralphieboy
In other words, the most superficial research would've put this story right to bed.
Wonder why we didn't see even the most superficial research?
Ludwig did some long comments on the physics of all this in a thread the other day... pretty exhaustive if I remember.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:41:09am |
The original taping was done by a NEWS CREW, and the promotion of the "possibility" that it was a missile was done by NEWS ORGANIZATIONS, they don't ever hype things just for ratings.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:41:29am |
It was aliens, I seen em'!
//
Hi everyone, Mr Stewart is at his silly best again I see. If it took ten minutes to cross the sky it obviously wasn't a missile, heavens knows we get to see plenty of those go up here in California. Several years ago we got to see one go up on Thanksgiving day, quite spectacular and extremely fast!
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:41:29am |
re: #9 Walter L. Newton
Ludwig did some long comments on the physics of all this in a thread the other day... pretty exhaustive if I remember.
Yes, which made me wonder why journalists for major news networks could not do the same.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:42:01am |
re: #12 ralphieboy
Yes, which made me wonder why journalists for major news networks could not do the same.
Ludwig was almost sure it was a missile.
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Gus Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:42:38am |
This if for a Trident missile:
When the missile attains sufficient distance from the submarine, the first stage motor ignites, the aerospike extends and the boost stage begins. Within about two minutes, after the third stage motor kicks in, the missile is traveling in excess of 20,000 feet (6,096 meters) per second.
10 x 60 x 20,000 / 5,280 = 2,273 miles.
[Link: www.navy.mil...]
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:43:03am |
I gave up speculation and applied the 24-hour rule
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:43:53am |
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Donna Ballard Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:47:30am |
U.S. Media punked again! 223 (or however many there were) people flying coach with cramped legs debunk the missile theory as they get off the plane! Ha!
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Gus Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:47:45am |
Of course nothing will change the minds of the conspiracy theorists. Another urban legend has been born.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:49:57am |
re: #18 Gus 802
Of course nothing will change the minds of the conspiracy theorists. Another urban legend has been born.
Even Alex Jones didn't fall for this one. It was stupid from the start.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:52:54am |
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RadicalModerate Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:54:19am |
A quick reminder for everyone - Jon Stewart will be the interview guest on tonights Rachael Maddow Show.
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:56:29am |
re: #20 Gus 802
I love this gem:
It's a contrail.
A vertical contrail. Planes fly straight upwards, right?
It's pretty common knowledge that the earth is curved, right?
Right?
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Gus Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:57:51am |
re: #23 JasonA
I love this gem:
It's pretty common knowledge that the earth is curved, right?
Right?
Most normal people think so.
/
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:59:47am |
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:00:00am |
re: #23 JasonA
I love this gem:
It's pretty common knowledge that the earth is curved, right?
Right?
it depends on the number of turtles it's balanced on
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Randall Gross Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:00:20am |
I remember an oddly psychotic caller going on about this for a short bit on the Limbaugh show yesterday, it was like underneath all the blathering was real hope that that possibly WW III had started or something.
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3eff Jeff Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:00:41am |
re: #26 engineer dog
it depends on the number of turtles it's balanced on
It's turtles all the way down.
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kirkspencer Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:00:53am |
re: #3 Charles
The news helicopter guy filmed the contrail for 10 minutes. That puts this story to bed. A real missile would have been halfway around the world in 10 minutes.
Actually it might have still been in sight. But a real missile would have been out of fuel in less than ten minutes.
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Randall Gross Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:03:21am |
and the skies were full of portents...
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:05:09am |
From my backyard in northern Galveston county we are occassionally on the flight path of planes taking off from Hobby Airport. Sometimes they appear over the horizon and they are banking along with gaining elevation so they almost appear due to the distance and parallax to be practically holding stationary in the sky. When it happens I am always startled.....thinking WTF - that plane is going to crash!
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lawhawk Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:05:18am |
re: #31 Thanos
And the Simpsons and Lone Gunmen (both Fox shows) predicted the 9/11 attacks. Fox News was in on the conspiracy... /////
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:05:51am |
Breitbart's Big Journalism defends Glen Beck against charges of Antisemitism...
Media Matters Makes “World Record” Lame Charge of Antisemitism Against Glenn Beck
Check out the comments....
As far as I can tell he is some internationalist clown. He is no different than the other international J3ws. They all have delusions of running the world and are a danger to mankind.
....
I love it - you sure want to salvage that over-charged "Anti-Semite" card so YOU can still use it the way THEY are.Perhaps people should take note just how many of the articles here are by J3ws and for J3ws and Israel. Is Breitbart simply an Israeli mouthpiece? Does ANYONE here put AMERICA first? I can't think of any.
....
you can't serve two masters. I mostly see support of that foreign country here - the one that committed terrorism against us.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:06:13am |
Love the "sky cock" comment! Labradoodle boner shield was also a good comment.
I didn't think it was a missile, simply because there very little chance something like that could get by our intelligence guys, not to mention the multiple early warning systems we have, especially after 9/11 and the intelligence community's failure to catch such a plot.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:12:46am |
re: #27 Thanos
I remember an oddly psychotic caller going on about this for a short bit on the Limbaugh show yesterday, it was like underneath all the blathering was real hope that that possibly WW III had started or something.
Those are the scary ones. Some people long for the excitement that a world catastrophe would provide.
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3eff Jeff Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:14:41am |
re: #35 commadore183
Love the "sky cock" comment! Labradoodle boner shield was also a good comment.
I didn't think it was a missile, simply because there very little chance something like that could get by our intelligence guys, not to mention the multiple early warning systems we have, especially after 9/11 and the intelligence community's failure to catch such a plot.
I thought both "Labradoodle boner shield" and "Giant Sky Cock" have great potential as band or album names.
/listens to too much metal.
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I Am Kreniigh! Thu, Nov 11, 2010 12:35:43pm |
re: #17 Dragon_Lady
U.S. Media punked again! 223 (or however many there were) people flying coach with cramped legs debunk the missile theory as they get off the plane! Ha!
What's that then?
For all the hullabaloo, I haven't seen any resolution. Did I miss something?
I'm willing to go with the "airliner" theory if someone can explain that massive plume behind it.
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darthstar Thu, Nov 11, 2010 12:57:26pm |
re: #7 Gus 802
And even if it was before orbital velocity and traveling around 5000 mph in 10 minutes it would have gone 833 miles.
So driving a missile to work instead of a car would really cut down on my commute time, if I understand you correctly.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:22:22pm |
Tracking it for 10 minutes absolutely means it was a plane. That is a little bi of data the multiple press people could have added to their reporting.
The optical people are correct.
Of course, if the newsies had added that one rather crucial bit of information, i.e. the dude was filming it for 10 minutes, well there wouldn't have been a story.
I was officially duped.
I am pissed.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:24:10pm |
re: #6 ralphieboy
In other words, the most superficial research would've put this story right to bed.
Wonder why we didn't see even the most superficial research?
The most crucial bit of information that the newsies had was left out of heir report.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:25:27pm |
And for he record that was an extremely long contrail for that to happen. The weather conditions had to be just so. It was not obvious without the filming time.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:26:30pm |
re: #13 Walter L. Newton
Ludwig was almost sure it was a missile.
I was - based on a misleading story. Foolish me - had the newsies said they were filming it for 10 minutes, there would have been no story.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:42:23pm |
re: #9 Walter L. Newton
Ludwig did some long comments on the physics of all this in a thread the other day... pretty exhaustive if I remember.
I believe Ludwig didn't rule out that it wasn't a missile. IIRC, he put the odds at 5%.
Of course, he also put the odds that I'm a troll at 80%, and was giving good odds that I'm actually a LGF commenter I've never even heard of.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:43:33pm |
re: #45 Talking Point Detective
I believe Ludwig didn't rule out that it wasn't a missile. IIRC, he put the odds at 5%.
Of course, he also put the odds that I'm a troll at 80%, and was giving good odds that I'm actually a LGF commenter I've never even heard of.
Ohhh I'm still sure you are a troll.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:45:06pm |
re: #45 Talking Point Detective
Well, you're still wrong about making analogies scientifically, if that's any discomfort.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:45:12pm |
re: #45 Talking Point Detective
I believe Ludwig didn't rule out that it wasn't a missile. IIRC, he put the odds at 5%.
Of course, he also put the odds that I'm a troll at 80%, and was giving good odds that I'm actually a LGF commenter I've never even heard of.
Actually I said 50-50 towards the end of the day.
But, I was mistaken and misled. I admit that.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:47:11pm |
re: #46 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh I'm still sure you are a troll.
What are the odds now? Still 80%?
What was that I was saying about sloppy analysis - drawing definitive conclusions without sufficient data?
You watched a puff of smoke on your computer screen and were 95% sure it was a missile? How long was that clip you watched? How far would a missile have traveled in that amount of time?
And you're going to blame your mistake on the news reports? Are you sure you aren't a Republican?
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:48:25pm |
re: #49 Talking Point Detective
Dude, ease up on the butthurt level.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:50:27pm |
re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote
I was - based on a misleading story. Foolish me - had the newsies said they were filming it for 10 minutes, there would have been no story.
Just to be clear - you were 95% sure it was a missile without checking to see how long the film ran for? One of the most obvious variables you would need to draw a conclusion? Yet you were 95% sure?
Right. Blame the "newsies" because you drew a near-certain conclusion without sufficient data.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:51:42pm |
re: #50 Obdicut
Dude, ease up on the butthurt level.
Nice. I guess that's some kind of a homophobic joke you pull out of your ass to defend your BFF, Ludwig?
Very cute.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:55:25pm |
re: #52 Talking Point Detective
Heh. Yeah. Homophobic. Yep, that's me.
'butthurt' is a common LGF phrase, meaning 'unreasonable upset and petulant', in best approximation.
You made an extremely bad argument in the other thread about analogies. Extremely bad.
Ludwig made a bad argument about the contrail.
The main difference right now is he's admitted he was wrong-- whatever you may think about how he has done that.
Whereas you haven't admitted that your scientific analogy subjectivity theory was anything less than a stellar argument we were fools to castigate you for.
Calm the hell down, don't hold grudges, and make good arguments. Then you'll get respected.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:57:29pm |
re: #49 Talking Point Detective
What are the odds now? Still 80%?
What was that I was saying about sloppy analysis - drawing definitive conclusions without sufficient data?
You watched a puff of smoke on your computer screen and were 95% sure it was a missile? How long was that clip you watched? How far would a missile have traveled in that amount of time?
And you're going to blame your mistake on the news reports? Are you sure you aren't a Republican?
I said 50% after doing some calculations.
But that doesn't matter. I was misled. A rather crucial bit of information was missing, but my initial thoughts were wrong. I admit that.
I really never considered that something so obvious would fail to be reported from the get go befiore speculating that something was a missile. I ruled it out because I have this place in the back of my mind where I assume (falsely) that people aren't going to be as incredibly stupid and careless as they are. I had wrongly assumed that the footage was short because they lost sight of the bird very shortly after.
And just a 4 second clip would not necessarily look that much different even at missile speeds if the thing was angles the right way.
But none the less, my initial thoughts were mistaken. Now that we know he was watching it for 10 minutes, there can be no mistake.
Let's compare this to you still incapable of admitting your many errors in the face of evidence provided you?
See the difference?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 2:59:41pm |
re: #53 Obdicut
Heh. Yeah. Homophobic. Yep, that's me.
'butthurt' is a common LGF phrase, meaning 'unreasonable upset and petulant', in best approximation.
You made an extremely bad argument in the other thread about analogies. Extremely bad.
Ludwig made a bad argument about the contrail.
The main difference right now is he's admitted he was wrong-- whatever you may think about how he has done that.
Whereas you haven't admitted that your scientific analogy subjectivity theory was anything less than a stellar argument we were fools to castigate you for.
Calm the hell down, don't hold grudges, and make good arguments. Then you'll get respected.
Actually my argument about the contrail was correct. I said that it was possible for it to be an airplane under very specific weather conditions - which are rare so therefore I considered unlikely.
Of course, I had no idea they were filming the damn thing or ten minutes, and I am still in shock they did not mention that. That would have ended it there.
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Gus Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:02:06pm |
re: #45 Talking Point Detective
I believe Ludwig didn't rule out that it wasn't a missile. IIRC, he put the odds at 5%.
Of course, he also put the odds that I'm a troll at 80%, and was giving good odds that I'm actually a LGF commenter I've never even heard of.
According to my calculations and computer modeling I have you at 80% douche.
/
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:02:09pm |
re: #53 Obdicut
Heh. Yeah. Homophobic. Yep, that's me.
'butthurt' is a common LGF phrase, meaning 'unreasonable upset and petulant', in best approximation.
You made an extremely bad argument in the other thread about analogies. Extremely bad.
Ludwig made a bad argument about the contrail.
The main difference right now is he's admitted he was wrong-- whatever you may think about how he has done that.
Whereas you haven't admitted that your scientific analogy subjectivity theory was anything less than a stellar argument we were fools to castigate you for.
Calm the hell down, don't hold grudges, and make good arguments. Then you'll get respected.
Honestly, I couldn't care less whether you "respect" me. You haven't as yet shown that you deserve that level of my concern.
My feelings aren't hurt because Ludwig "calculated" the odds that I'm a troll simply because I had the audacity to disagree with him. I observed that he drew conclusions with insufficient data, and then he did the exact same thing by convincing himself that I"m a troll.
And lo and behold, he does the same thing some two days later when he explains with near certainty that a cloud of smoke he detected on his computer screen was a missile.
But really, your dedication to him is very touching.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:03:36pm |
re: #57 Talking Point Detective
Honestly, I couldn't care less whether you "respect" me. You haven't as yet shown that you deserve that level of my concern.
That's nice.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:05:56pm |
re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually my argument about the contrail was correct. I said that it was possible for it to be an airplane under very specific weather conditions - which are rare so therefore I considered unlikely.
Of course, I had no idea they were filming the damn thing or ten minutes, and I am still in shock they did not mention that. That would have ended it there.
Hilarious. Your argument was correct? You put the odds of it being a missile at 95%.
Again, how long was the video clip you watched? How far would a missile have traveled in that amount of time? Would you be able to actually watch a missile traveling at 15,000 mph for that length of time?
You said there was a 95% chance that it was a missile, and you never thought that drawing such a conclusion without knowing the amount of time it was observed?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:06:32pm |
re: #57 Talking Point Detective
not worth getting involved better things to do. But yes you are a troll for sure and not because you "simply disagree." You are troll for using endless buzz words and dog whistles that trolls use like whine about getting proven wrong and turning belligerent in certain patterns when you "simply disagree."
If you are just a web crank with poor arguing skills, that is nothing new. I still give that 20%. However, I have yet to be wrong when my troll-meter goes off, and I have called many of them out.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:07:11pm |
re: #59 Talking Point Detective
Only that wasn't what I said. I said 50 - 50 after I looked into it more.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:10:16pm |
re: #59 Talking Point Detective
Well I can see this has become personal. I didn't figure about how long it was observed, because I falsely assumed that abnyone who knew they had 10 minutes of film would know it was not a missile and therefore not report - or that at least someone would say something about that right away.
You see that is one of those really obvious things that was so obvious the fact no one said it caused me to rule it out.
My error was in believing that multiple newsies would think for at least 10 seconds before saying something as huge as they did.
But whatever, I was wrong on that point and it caused me to conclude incorrectly.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:11:43pm |
re: #61 LudwigVanQuixote
Only that wasn't what I said. I said 50 - 50 after I looked into it more.
OK - so you first said the odds were 95%, and then you realized that you drew that conclusion without doing sufficient research to draw a conclusion. So that was the first time (with reference to that topic) that you drew a conclusion without sufficient data.
So then you went on to do more research, and decided you had enough information to draw another conclusion: there was a 50% chance that it was a missile. So that was the second time (on that topic) that you drew a conclusion without sufficient data.
So, twice you drew conclusions without sufficient data, data as obvious as the amount of time that the missile was observed, and you completely overlooked the obvious variable of how long you actually watched the video and how far a missile would travel in that amount of time?
And you're blaming the newsies?
Is that a joke?
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:13:27pm |
re: #62 LudwigVanQuixote
Well I can see this has become personal. I didn't figure about how long it was observed, because I falsely assumed that abnyone who knew they had 10 minutes of film would know it was not a missile and therefore not report - or that at least someone would say something about that right away.
How long was the clip you watched? How far would a missile have traveled in that amount of time?
You're still trying to blame other people because you drew conclusions without sufficient data? Prudent observers said they didn't have enough information to draw conclusions. What did you do?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:14:26pm |
re: #63 Talking Point Detective
So which troll are you?
What I wrote about how I was thinking and why I discounted that was quite clear.
I was clear at the time and clear now.
But really? Bagua maybe, but too much of a direct edge.
Possibly cold warrior. Possibly Snork, but snork would have fucked up something obvious by now.
Which one are you?
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:16:56pm |
re: #66 LudwigVanQuixote
Which one?
So, you're sure that I'm a troll, right? 95% sure? Someone who has posted here under another screenname in the past? Sure about that too, right?
Keep digging that hole, Ludwig.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:18:18pm |
re: #67 Talking Point Detective
So, you're sure that I'm a troll, right? 95% sure? Someone who has posted here under another screenname in the past? Sure about that too, right?
Keep digging that hole, Ludwig.
No it's about 99% now.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:23:48pm |
re: #68 LudwigVanQuixote
No it's about 99% now.
Just to confirm, you're 99% sure of something for which you have no solid data. None.
I never posted at LGF, ever, before about a week ago.
I never wanted to up until fairly recently because the place was a cesspool of Islamophobia and rightwing fanaticism.
Once the site turned the corner and became one of the better blogs on the Internets, I wanted to start commenting but never could sign up before the door closed with the "new hatchlings."
I only realized the other day that the registration was open and so I signed up.
I'm glad to be here. And in fact, I've enjoyed your posts on AGW many times in the past. But that isn't going to prevent me from pointing out flaws in your analysis.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:25:15pm |
re: #69 Talking Point Detective
I'm still holding out 1%.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:26:23pm |
re: #70 LudwigVanQuixote
Anyway, gotta run. You can obdicut can talk about what a "coward" I am while I'm gone - to show how brave you are.
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danhenry1 Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:28:28pm |
Charles says it best, referencing missile speeds, this must have been known to the folks that filmed this; but in my mind it was probably meant as some weird promo for 'Skyline'.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:36:34pm |
re: #71 Talking Point Detective
Anyway, gotta run. You can obdicut can talk about what a "coward" I am while I'm gone - to show how brave you are.
make it 0.5%
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andres Thu, Nov 11, 2010 3:53:46pm |
re: #26 engineer dog
it depends on the number of turtles it's balanced on
I believe it's only one turtle, but the number of elephants it's balanced on may vary. =P
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Political Atheist Thu, Nov 11, 2010 4:13:48pm |
re: #71 Talking Point Detective
Okay so some news guys who work where we have multiple missile testing ranges got it wrong, and led some folks down the wrong path. BTW We do have cruise missile tests and those do fly at the same speed as an airliner, being jet powered. Sometimes sub launched too so we should not say missile and assume rocket propulsion. SoCal has had lots of mystery flights that much later turned out to be military classified stuff. Like the early Polaris missile tests. UFO report city.
What an odd thing to start a wrangle over.
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Obdicut Thu, Nov 11, 2010 6:07:09pm |
re: #71 Talking Point Detective
Random accusations of homophobia are pretty stupid. I don't think they're cowardly, though.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 11, 2010 8:27:14pm |
re: #52 Talking Point Detective
Nice. I guess that's some kind of a homophobic joke you pull out of your ass to defend your BFF, Ludwig?
Very cute.
The queers on this board are currently giggling at your expense
(or at least this one is)
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Jimmah Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:41:20am |
re: #52 Talking Point Detective
Nice. I guess that's some kind of a homophobic joke you pull out of your ass to defend your BFF, Ludwig?
Very cute.
So, you've been reading LGF for a long time, yet you are shocked by the word "butthurt" and try to construe it as a homophobic slur, just like every wingnut who has encountered it here in the past. What a surprise.
You are not kidding anyone here with this, or your obsession with Ludwig. Every time you post, you make it more obvious that there is something wrong with you.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:49:24am |
re: #78 Jimmah
I actually kind of feel bad for him. I don't actually think he's a troll. I'm not as veterany at this as you guys are, but he strikes me as someone who was kind of similar to myself-- read LGF back in the day, saw the nutso comments, didn't join, saw that the comments had gotten sane, wanted to join, did so. I can believe that. I can believe he never saw butthurt, and that he saw Ludwig's AGW posts referenced or something like that.
The only problem I really have is the apparent inability to admit even the possibility of his own argument being flawed, like in the case of the analogies, while going after others so hard about their arguments. That is not a winning combination.
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Jimmah Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:56:40am |
re: #79 Obdicut
I actually kind of feel bad for him. I don't actually think he's a troll. I'm not as veterany at this as you guys are, but he strikes me as someone who was kind of similar to myself-- read LGF back in the day, saw the nutso comments, didn't join, saw that the comments had gotten sane, wanted to join, did so. I can believe that. I can believe he never saw butthurt, and that he saw Ludwig's AGW posts referenced or something like that.
The only problem I really have is the apparent inability to admit even the possibility of his own argument being flawed, like in the case of the analogies, while going after others so hard about their arguments. That is not a winning combination.
You might be right - he might not be a troll, despite all the red flags. He might just be a bit of an asshole.
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Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ...
Cheechako
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They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 277 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...Joe Bacon ✅
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
3 weeks ago
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
3 weeks ago
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
3 weeks ago
Views: 521 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
3 weeks ago
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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