Rachel Maddow and Jon Stewart
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Here’s the first part of Rachel Maddow’s very uncomfortable interview with Jon Stewart:
316 comments
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:11:59pm |
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:12:40pm |
can I just say right now that Rachel maddow makes me want to become a lesbian. oh wait…
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:13:57pm |
Not gonna wait for another thread to be derailed.
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:14:25pm |
re: #5 pt barnum
can I just say right now that Rachel maddow makes me want to become a lesbian. oh wait…
You already are a lesbian.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:15:15pm |
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:16:15pm |
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:16:20pm |
Jon was amazingly nuanced throughout the interview. He came prepared knowing that he’d be presented with the typical false dichotomies. I was truly amazed. And I say that as a serious Rachel fan. Extraordinary.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:16:58pm |
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FreedomMoon Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:17:45pm |
Jon really continues to surprise me, his analysis in my opinion of politics as a whole is so spot on. He is really a bright individual. He comes off so rational and open-minded—it really is heartening to find a voice that is so grounded in all the hectic political theater in the media.
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:18:12pm |
re: #13 PT Barnum
and proud of it!
I’d ask how proud, but I don’t really want to look below your waist.
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:19:37pm |
Awkward, didn’t agree withe everything Stewart said, but he did say so much of what the left (of which I am included) needs to hear.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:21:08pm |
Interesting to hear Stewart as himself, not with his clown hat on.
I get the distinct impression that this is one seriously intelligent man.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:23:20pm |
re: #16 b_sharp
I’d ask how proud, but I don’t really want to look below your waist.
I’m not proud enough to take the final step, so ill have to settle for being a lesbian trapped in a mans body.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:23:52pm |
re: #16 b_sharp
I’d ask how proud, but I don’t really want to look below your waist.
Quit yer lyin’.
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:24:27pm |
Jon presented us with serious questions concerning our own assumptions in this interview. I suspect I lean towards his assumptions. Dare I say he’s an Augustinian Democrat? I do give Rachel credit for sharing the entire interview. Again, fascinating.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:25:40pm |
re: #17 sizzleRI
Awkward, didn’t agree withe everything Stewart said, but he did say so much of what the left (of which I am included) needs to hear.
I think so too.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:26:30pm |
my application to be a lesbian was rejected on some technical gender issue
stupid rules
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:27:45pm |
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:28:24pm |
re: #20 PT Barnum
Then you’re missing out on the good lesbians.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:28:52pm |
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:29:56pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
A troll flouncing into oblivion.
I figured that, but I hate missing the fun part.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:30:16pm |
re: #25 engineer dog
my application to be a lesbian was rejected on some technical gender issue
stupid rules
I told em it was the result of a horrible strap on accident but they wouldn’t believe me
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:30:43pm |
Cocky comments seem to prevail. I guess I should have another stiff drink….
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:30:44pm |
re: #31 b_sharp
That was rather a stiff response.
Just the sort of thing you’d expect from a prick like that.
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:30:55pm |
re: #33 PT Barnum
I told em it was the result of a horrible strap on accident but they wouldn’t believe me
Too much crazy glue.
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Gus Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:31:25pm |
re: #34 Irenicum
Cocky comments seem to prevail. I guess I should have another stiff drink…
Shakin’ not stirred. /
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:31:26pm |
re: #33 PT Barnum
That is because real strap on accidents are nothing to joke about!
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:31:41pm |
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:31:42pm |
re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth
Just the sort of thing you’d expect from a prick like that.
He’ll eventually make a boner, then we can laugh at his short comings.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:33:59pm |
re: #40 b_sharp
He’ll eventually make a boner, then we can laugh at his short comings.
I’m afraid that any attempt to follow that masterful multi-pun would only come across as limp.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:34:06pm |
Charles mentioned earlier that this is going to be a big topic tomorrow. Here’s why he’s wrong: It will raise some hackles from both left and right (the Kos Kidz are bitching already) over various soundbites but the story will quickly be dumped at the sight of the first shiny object (tsunami alert, balloon boy hoax, etc). It’s also why John Stewart wins the debate. Stewart’s point if far too nuanced for the partisans to really discuss in detail, they’ll freak out about various soundbites but the discussion will be piss in the wind.
I do find it very interesting that although Maddow is probably smarter than Stewart he still wins by being more reasonable. Maddow is an advocate and can’t quite seem to grasp that although Stewart shares her political leanings he doesn’t want to be an advocate. He’s a comedian/satarist and becoming an advocate reduces his pool of likely jokes by 50%.
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austin_blue Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:34:11pm |
Stewart, once again, shows himself as the voice of sanity. Both Fox and MSNBC do the country no great favor. I’m a Liberal Democrat. I don’t watch MSNBC. Nor do I watch Fox. Pointless.
Happy vets day from a former member of both the 644th Bomb Squadron and the 46th Air Refueling Squadron of the 410th Bomb Wing at K. I. Sawyer AFB in beautiful Marquette, Michigan.
I actually had a T-shirt that said “Yes, ma’am, I fly jets. How do you like me so far?”
Sad to say, it worked.
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:35:14pm |
re: #23 Killgore Trout
I have so many thoughts on this. As an introduction, I discovered this blog by a link in the comments at a very liberal blog about a year ago. Just thought I’d look around. It was so interesting to me to finally discover conservatives who felt the way about FOX that I felt about Moore or Olbermann.
Actually my lesson came earlier. When I went to my first, and last, anti war rally in 2005. Hated the war (it is my generation serving), but wow!!! the people there. I am not them!
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:38:21pm |
re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth
he did it with malice aforeskin
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:38:36pm |
re: #46 sizzleRI
Welcome newbie. It’s a fun and diverse crowd here. Enjoy the crazy havoc. It keeps me more honest.
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:40:41pm |
re: #43 Killgore Trout
Great. So, I’ve been trying to articulate (for way too long) what you said perfectly.
I could never get too into Maddow, the partisanship offends, but I do think Stewart got a bit sanctimonious at the end. However, I have always found her adorable. I can’t help it!
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:41:39pm |
re: #49 Irenicum
I have lurked for awhile and always appreciate what you post!
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122 Year Old Obama Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:42:33pm |
re: #46 sizzleRI
Welcome hatchling. Don’t mind the ashes. They’re just remains of grilled troll.
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:42:38pm |
re: #48 PT Barnum
he did it with malice aforeskin
I can’t keep up with your puns. You’re just too sharp.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:44:07pm |
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:47:15pm |
re: #53 b_sharp
I wouldn’t. go that far although I wont let it go to my head for fear I might be sentenced to a penile colony
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Mr Pancakes Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:49:06pm |
That was an uncomfortable interview … watching it almost gave me a “stroke”.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:49:07pm |
re: #54 engineer dog
just plain hu bris on his part
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:50:16pm |
re: #58 PT Barnum
I’m having a Seinfeld moment right now b/c of yer comment. Stupid angry rabbi!
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:50:39pm |
re: #57 Mr Pancakes
you being a master debater, I wouldn’t think it would bother you
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Mr Pancakes Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:51:36pm |
re: #60 PT Barnum
you being a master debater, I wouldn’t think it would bother you
Me master debater? Cum on now!
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:51:53pm |
re: #60 PT Barnum
Fishing for a compliment? I’ve always loved a master baiter.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:52:20pm |
A fascinating interview - between the two of them, they really dug into the meat of the issue; when does advocacy become essentially the partisanship-distorted logic that you’re fighting against.
As much as I want to agree with Maddow in this interview, I think that Stewart absolutely nails it. As much as I agree with Maddow on literally every issue, and as good as she is when taking down frauds like Rand Paul, her credibility will be undermined unless she shifts the paradigm and begins dismantling Democratic Party hypocrisy proportionately, and calling Tea Partiers “tea baggers” and “nazis” will not advance the left cause.
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:52:37pm |
re: #61 Mr Pancakes
Me master debater? Cum on now!
I’m afraid I can see your point.
With that, I’m off.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:52:49pm |
re: #59 Irenicum
actually that was the name of the rabbi. Hugh Briss
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austin_blue Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:52:52pm |
re: #24 b_sharp
Hey, ya gotta compare size, doncha?
It’s not the size of the wand, it’s the magic behind it.
Yes, I’m Irish, so I’ve got a teensy Roman Pillar of Manhood. Our basic foreplay is “Brace yourself, Brigid.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:53:22pm |
re: #50 sizzleRI
Great. So, I’ve been trying to articulate (for way too long) what you said perfectly.
I could never get too into Maddow, the partisanship offends, but I do think Stewart got a bit sanctimonious at the end. However, I have always found her adorable. I can’t help it!
She is really cute. My dad has a big crush.
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Mr Pancakes Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:53:54pm |
re: #66 austin_blue
It’s not the size of the wand, it’s the magic behind it.
Guys with small penises always say that.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:54:21pm |
re: #46 sizzleRI
I have so many thoughts on this. As an introduction, I discovered this blog by a link in the comments at a very liberal blog about a year ago. Just thought I’d look around. It was so interesting to me to finally discover conservatives who felt the way about FOX that I felt about Moore or Olbermann.
Actually my lesson came earlier. When I went to my first, and last, anti war rally in 2005. Hated the war (it is my generation serving), but wow!!! the people there. I am not them!
I think you’ll find some kindred spirits here. We have a lot of conservatives who feel the same way about the Tea Parties as you do about the antiwar protests. You may not agree with them but I think you’ll find some common ground.
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b_sharp Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:55:00pm |
re: #68 Mr Pancakes
Guys with small penises always say that.
I have two small penises, one stacked on top of the other.
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Mr Pancakes Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:55:02pm |
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:55:26pm |
Honestly though, I don’t get what people find uncomfortable about it.
They shared differing, intelligent perspectives in a rational and respectful manner. Why would that be uncomfortable when compared to the unintrospective debating that we generally see 24/7 on political TV?
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:56:57pm |
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austin_blue Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:56:58pm |
re: #71 b_sharp
I have two small penises, one stacked on top of the other.
Does that make you bipoler?
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scienceisreal Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:58:01pm |
Canada tries to make sense of American politics:
Your text to link…
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:58:50pm |
I find it rather telling that many on the left took offense at the rally. It seems that once someone has taken a side they tend to think that everything is about that.
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FreedomMoon Thu, Nov 11, 2010 9:59:44pm |
Just finished watching the interview. Sure, they didn’t fit together like puzzle pieces on all their points, but you could definitely tell they sought after incongruities and really pushed themselves to try to understand each other in order to see eye-to-eye on the issues. They didn’t, but interviews are supposed to do that. This wasn’t a fox news interview just spitting out talking points to build a perfectly symmetrical sand castle; I think in the end they both kind of opened their horizons, learned and benefited from the other. So I think it’s inaccurate to call the interview uncomfortable, I think informative and challenging would better describe it.
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freetoken Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:00:46pm |
re: #46 sizzleRI
It was so interesting to me to finally discover conservatives …
Conservative? Hah! Everyone knows I’m a MUZLIM COMMUNIST intent on destroying America and furthering the internationalists’ plot for world domination!
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:01:06pm |
re: #79 tacuba14
The most important thing I took away from that interview was that they both wanted to understand each other’s points of view.
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FreedomMoon Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:01:54pm |
re: #81 JasonA
The most important thing I took away from that interview was that they both wanted to understand each other’s points of view.
Agreed, kind of refreshing in a way.
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:02:00pm |
re: #79 tacuba14
Well put. It was respectful, even as they disagreed.
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freetoken Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:02:02pm |
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:02:05pm |
re: #78 JasonA
I find it rather telling that many on the left took offense at the rally. It seems that once someone has taken a side they tend to think that everything is about that.
Guido Sarducci’s benediction was pure genius - and it made a very strong, and political point without falling into a liberal vs. conservative paradigm.
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:03:28pm |
re: #85 Talking Point Detective
Is there video of that? I love F. Sarducci and would love to see what he said.
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sizzleRI Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:03:49pm |
re: #69 Killgore Trout
That is exactly what I was drawn to here. The liberal blogs I read for awhile…just echo chambers. And I didn’t even bother with Kos or HuffPo, which are obviously propaganda, and boring at that. I usually frequented lesser frequented, more feminist oriented places. But still, such rigid ideologies. I say that as someone who is probably pretty far to the left of my fellow citizens. Still, no need to be a complete un-listening asshole to everyone else. And that is how too much of the country feels about people who are different from them.
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uncah91 Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:04:23pm |
re: #73 Talking Point Detective
Honestly though, I don’t get what people find uncomfortable about it.
They shared differing, intelligent perspectives in a rational and respectful manner. Why would that be uncomfortable when compared to the unintrospective debating that we generally see 24/7 on political TV?
This x 2
That is what intelligent discourse is supposed to look like when two sides are not in agreement.
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:05:50pm |
re: #82 tacuba14
Agreed, kind of refreshing in a way.
Odds we’ll ever see that in Washington some day…?
Don’t waste your time answering that.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:06:04pm |
re: #63 Talking Point Detective
A fascinating interview - between the two of them, they really dug into the meat of the issue; when does advocacy become essentially the partisanship-distorted logic that you’re fighting against.
As much as I want to agree with Maddow in this interview, I think that Stewart absolutely nails it. As much as I agree with Maddow on literally every issue, and as good as she is when taking down frauds like Rand Paul, her credibility will be undermined unless she shifts the paradigm and begins dismantling Democratic Party hypocrisy proportionately, and calling Tea Partiers “tea baggers” and “nazis” will not advance the left cause.
democrats tend to feel, rightly or wrongly, that they are unfairly overwhelmed with a torrent of lies and chop logic from the right. unfortunately, in an extraordinarily partisan environment like we have now, every voice that attacks non-republican policies seems to democrats to come out of a giant poorly differentiated mass
we feel that our attempts to overcome this blizzard by painstakingly correcting false assertions and pointing out flaws of logic are pitiful weapons to weild against lies and illogical emotionalized appeals
one of the things i like about this place is that there are reasonable, intelligent republicans to debate with
but if you are a democrat these days, these kind of republicans seem very few and far between
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uncah91 Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:06:25pm |
Hate to post and run, but I’m beat. Night lizards.
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engineer cat Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:08:08pm |
re: #77 scienceisreal
Canada tries to make sense of American politics:
Your text to link…
fascinating
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:10:06pm |
re: #43 Killgore Trout
Agreed for the most part, but not on these two points:
I do find it very interesting that although Maddow is probably smarter than Stewart
I think he’s brilliant. Check out his interview on NPR, Fresh Air for more insight into his genius.
He’s a comedian/satarist and becoming an advocate reduces his pool of likely jokes by 50%.
I’m not convinced that he avoids advocacy for the sake of his humor; I think that he believes that (partisan) advocacy is ineffective as a political methodology.
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austin_blue Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:10:10pm |
Night lizards! Sweet Dreams. See you Saturday.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:14:14pm |
re: #90 engineer dog
democrats tend to feel, rightly or wrongly, that they are unfairly overwhelmed with a torrent of lies and chop logic from the right. unfortunately, in an extraordinarily partisan environment like we have now, every voice that attacks non-republican policies seems to democrats to come out of a giant poorly differentiated mass
we feel that our attempts to overcome this blizzard by painstakingly correcting false assertions and pointing out flaws of logic are pitiful weapons to weild against lies and illogical emotionalized appeals
one of the things i like about this place is that there are reasonable, intelligent republicans to debate with
but if you are a democrat these days, these kind of republicans seem very few and far between
Well said. No doubt, there are many Repubs/conservatives who similarly feel they can’t find anyone on the left who will engage in intelligent debate.
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:17:17pm |
Work beckons manana. Nite y’all. Make sher ya stay “upright” in yer comments…
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Kronocide Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:18:16pm |
re: #90 engineer dog
I’m don’t mean to sound trite in reply to your point, accepting ‘liberal’ as an alternate viewpoint and not a pejorative did wonders for me.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:21:28pm |
re: #46 sizzleRI
We ain’t all that different. I figure we mostly want the same things, but just have different ideas as to how to achieve those goals.
One thing I’ve learned here is that I can identify as (mostly) conservative, and do so without having to hate those who identify as liberal.
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Kronocide Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:24:19pm |
re: #95 Talking Point Detective
Well said. No doubt, there are many Repubs/conservatives who similarly feel they can’t find anyone on the left who will engage in intelligent debate.
I’m a conservative and I find few on the right I can hold an intelligent discussion with.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:35:54pm |
re: #99 BigPapa
I’m a conservative and I find few on the right I can hold an intelligent discussion with.
Wish I could help. I mostly just have dick jokes.
/
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freetoken Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:39:02pm |
re: #100 Slumbering Behemoth
Wish I could help. I mostly just have dick jokes.
… and boob pictures ….
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:41:58pm |
re: #101 freetoken
More than you could possibly imagine. For propriety’s sake, I am holding back a veritable mammary tsunami.
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Mr Pancakes Thu, Nov 11, 2010 10:45:54pm |
re: #102 Slumbering Behemoth
More than you could possibly imagine. For propriety’s sake, I am holding back a veritable mammary tsunami.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:08:28pm |
Weird. Just had a little power outage here. I blame Beck and the Tea Party. It’s a conspiracy on their part to destroy any efforts I may make in crossing the conservative/liberal divide.
/and making dick jokes
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freetoken Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:30:12pm |
In times like these, this music seems to fit:
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:38:10pm |
Wow…I never knew that Jon Stewart could sound nearly as incoherent as Sarah Palin….
Admittedly he wasn’t really, and after replaying the video I can say I at least “kinda” got the majority of his allusions. It’s a good thing he isn’t running for office though, he would never get many votes talking like that. :p
/Damn Jon, it is “Jobs and Tax Cuts!” get it straight…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:43:20pm |
re: #106 ausador
STFU you dirty, nazi, fascist, evil, conservative, evil, republican, evil, GOP apologist shill!!!11ty
/
Just now barely digging into the vid myself…
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Locker Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:54:50pm |
Great interview and I really enjoyed Jon’s point about divisiveness with regard to left and right. Reminds me of a point from A People’s History of the United States regarding rich Americans encouraging poor whites and poor blacks to hate each other. The idea being if they are fighting each other they can’t band together and attack upwards.
I find the same thing happening now. Too many people, organizations and corporations make a profit from the rabid war going on in this country between the right and the left. It’s encouraged and celebrated and it’s really… REALLY bad for most of us.
Dialog
Publicly Funded Elections
Watch PBS and CSPAN for news and information
Be positive and constructive
Have fun ;-)
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Four More Tears Thu, Nov 11, 2010 11:55:51pm |
For anyone not in the know, he’s been making this argument for some time now:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:11:23am |
re: #111 JasonA
phuuuck… I’m gaining a new respect for Stewart, and regretting all the nasty, partisan crap I may or may not have said about the man in the past.
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palomino Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:14:44am |
re: #111 JasonA
And Tucker Carlson, little weasel that he is, still hasn’t gotten over being called a dick by Stewart. Anytime Stewart’s name gets brought up Carlson immediately turns into a comedy critic and tries to convince anyone who will listen that Stewart isn’t funny or talented or smart.
And now things have come full circle—Stewart the comedian is not only funnier but also taken more seriously than Tucker the clown.
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palomino Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:18:20am |
re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth
phuuuck… I’m gaining a new respect for Stewart, and regretting all the nasty, partisan crap I may or may not have said about the man in the past.
There’s a reason why people like McCain, Gov Perry, Newt Gingrich, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Huckabee, Santorum and a lot of other conservatives do his show. It’s not that they’re courting the stoned college student demographic. It’s that they know they’ll get a fair shake.
The only time I saw him cross a line in an interview was with Lynne Cheney. She’s not her husband the war architect, but he went after her like she was.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:18:53am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:28:41am |
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palomino Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:34:18am |
re: #115 JasonA
re: #113 palomino
“You’re on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls! What is wrong with you?”
Words that Tucker may never get over.
Tucker made the mistake of thinking he could engage in verbal fisticuffs with Stewart. Big mistake—successful smart comedians can make most interview guests look bad when they want (think Letterman over the years); and Stewart is a gifted satirist on top of being a comedian.
Maybe in a decade or two Tucker will get over this and have a sit-down with Stewart to reminisce, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:56:47am |
re: #117 palomino
Tucker made the mistake of thinking he could engage in verbal fisticuffs with Stewart. Big mistake—successful smart comedians can make most interview guests look bad when they want (think Letterman over the years); and Stewart is a gifted satirist on top of being a comedian.
Maybe in a decade or two Tucker will get over this and have a sit-down with Stewart to reminisce, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
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freetoken Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:03:18am |
Frum let’s Klinghoffer have the space to spew vacuity… and many of the commenters aren’t buying it:
[Link: www.frumforum.com…]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:15:46am |
FFS! How many times does a person have to say that he is a comedian on a comedy show, on the gawt-damned Comedy Central Network even, in order for the difference between satire and straight political commentary to sink in?
I mean, when was the last time someone confused SNL’s “Weekend Update” with Nightline? Intentionally, even? Feh!
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:23:29am |
re: #121 Slumbering Behemoth
America has become a parody of itself, it is now nearly impossible to tell the difference.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:41:25am |
re: #122 ralphieboy
And it would seem, by the Maddow/Stewart interview linked in the OP, that it is impossible for Maddow to tell the difference as well.
I find no sense in wingnut blowhards pointing at The Daily Show and saying “Hurr, hurr, stupid Americans think this is real news, hurr”, only to have a similar sentiment echoed by Rachel, all while Stewart is saying “No, what I do is stand on the outside and throw jokes in”.
Meh.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:46:04am |
News parody programs like The Daily Show are allowed to make up shit and pretend it’s real if they think it’s funny. Sometimes they do that. Sometimes it’s even funny.
Real news shows are not allowed to do so. Key difference.
But lately, the Daily Show has hardly had to make up anything, they just let politicians and public figures speak for themselves and then cut to John Stewart gorming and saying “WTF?”
Sometimes I think the writers have had it too easy lately…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:49:49am |
re: #124 ralphieboy
News parody programs like The Daily Show are allowed to make up shit and pretend it’s real if they think it’s funny. Sometimes they do that. Sometimes it’s even funny.
Real news shows are not allowed to do so.
Fuck. You and I must live in very different, parallel dimensions or something.
/
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:50:30am |
Lily Allen has the sweetest voice.
I’m going to try to sleep again.
G’night!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:52:31am |
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deranged cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:02:38am |
i was a little skeptical with the “uncomfortable” part, but man was that an uncomfortable interview. it was a really good interview though.
oh, and thank you Charles for tweeting my LGF Page on your twitter account! :D
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deranged cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:05:27am |
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mdey Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:07:28am |
It was a great interview. I watched the whole thing. I don’t think Rachel was uncomfortable at all. I saw too great minds. It’s as simple as that.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:11:10am |
re: #125 Slumbering Behemoth
yes, but I used the word “allowed” only in the figurative, ethical sense…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:12:42am |
re: #129 deranged cat
Heh, “quite unwell” is an understatement.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:17:28am |
re: #131 ralphieboy
No! You have made your claim, and now we must fight to the death on the blood soaked Fields of Hyperbole!!!
/sorry, it’s rather late here, and I am rather buzzed…
//and bored…
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:22:36am |
re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth
Nuance is dead. We stand triumphantly over its battered, bleeding corpse…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:36:22am |
And when all is said and done
No matter how the battle is won
We rage against each other in vain
Only to rise from death and clash again
/or something like that, I think I heard it in a “doom metal” song once…
| 136 |
nhand42 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:43:32am |
I just finished watching all six pieces. I didn’t get the “uncomfortable” vibe alluded to up above. I did get some truly fascinating insights into Maddow’s and Stewart’s minds. If only all 24hr conflictinator cable news was this good.
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nhand42 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 2:52:05am |
re: #113 palomino
And Tucker Carlson, little weasel that he is, still hasn’t gotten over being called a dick by Stewart. Anytime Stewart’s name gets brought up Carlson immediately turns into a comedy critic and tries to convince anyone who will listen that Stewart isn’t funny or talented or smart.
And now things have come full circle—Stewart the comedian is not only funnier but also taken more seriously than Tucker the clown.
It’s always been my opinion that the comedian is the smartest person in the room.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:01:57am |
re: #137 nhand42
It’s always been my opinion that the comedian is the smartest person in the room.
I’ve been of that opinion since the 1st time I heard Will Rogers!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:09:03am |
re: #136 nhand42
I just finished watching all six pieces. I didn’t get the “uncomfortable” vibe alluded to up above. I did get some truly fascinating insights into Maddow’s and Stewart’s minds. If only all 24hr conflictinator cable news was this good.
The “uncomforatble” I got (I’ve only seen the 1st segment) was one (or both) of two things
At the start, it was mentioned that Stewart wasn’t feeling well. He didn’t look/sound as coy as he usually does. He never had that “glint” in his eye
Maddow looked “uncomfortable” when Stewart opinied that both sides rhetoric are just as bad as each other and he wouldn’t let her off the hook when she tried to say (paraphrase) “yeah ,, but the right is worse” (Code Pink is a dozen old ladies while half of Indiana are whacked out because they agree with the Tea Party)
| 140 |
Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:17:00am |
Beck insists that George Soros is in charge of leftist “astroturfing”.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:23:32am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:32:33am |
ESPN’s making hay about the Celtics beating the Heat (again, yay).
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:34:16am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:38:12am |
re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
ESPN’s making hay about the Celtics beating the Heat (again, yay).
Final score was closer than it should have been
The Celts were dominating all night (15-20 point leads). With about 3 minutes to go, Wade almost made a 3 pointer that would have made it a 4 point game
| 147 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:40:11am |
re: #146 sattv4u2
I just love the word… “almost”.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:41:53am |
re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just love the word… “almost”.
“almost” gave me a heart attack
The thing spun around inside the rim for what seemed forever
Would have given the Heat HUGE momentum with just over 3 minutes to go
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:42:38am |
Stewart is right, the left and the right are nuts and they’re so focused on their own version of reality they don’t even see it. Second, why drag Indiana into this? Our state is lead by a bunch of pragmatists who voted for Obama in 2008.
Lastly, and this is a repeat, Maddow wants to be Glenn Beck so bad it drives her nuts. The only thing different between her show and his are the chalkboards.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:44:15am |
re: #149 RogueOne
Lastly, and this is a repeat, Maddow wants to be Glenn Beck so bad it drives her nuts. The only thing different between her show and his are the chalkboards.
You live in a fantasy world.
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:46:18am |
re: #151 Obdicut
I knew that would drag you out. You’re delusional and she’s a loon. They take turn bringing the cookies to the weekly meetings of the Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Club.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:46:49am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:53:54am |
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:54:33am |
re: #153 Obdicut
What’s sad are people are so stuck to their own version of reality they refuse to see the sunlight.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:54:45am |
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:56:42am |
and for the record:
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
Maddow handled the technical snafu with grace, but after coming back from commercial break, she admitted “its really weird, nothing like this has ever happened to me before, I’m such a conspiracy theorist…I cannot tell you what I’m thinking right now, it would discredit me forever.”
Come out into the light people….
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:59:27am |
OMG! Just saw a very unfortunate typo from “yours’ truly” yesterday.
Talking about Soros and what happened during his existence under Nazis.
I meant to say “Can’t imagine living through that time.”
What I typed was “Can imagine living through that time.”
Really. I can’t imagine living through that time. Hopefully no one thought I was that nonchalant about living as a Jewish child through a Nazi occupation.
No one probably noticed… but, gosh.
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:59:58am |
Speaking of the sun, it’s coming up. Time to go outside, See you folks later.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:00:13am |
So,,, gonna try a new way to cook ribs (baby back) tonight
I usually par boil them then put them on the grill.
TODAY,, when I get home ,, par boil ,,put them in the crock pot for 6-7 hours ,, THEN finish on the grill
(had them like that several weeks ago at a friends house ,,, T E N D E R !)
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:00:52am |
re: #157 RogueOne
“I’m such a conspiracy theorist…I cannot tell you what I’m thinking right now, it would discredit me forever.”
you see, she at least has a sense of when to keep her conspiracy theories to herself for fear of being discredited. Unlike some other famous news commentators…
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:01:15am |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No one probably noticed
Huh ,,, did you say something?/
You’re HERE !?!?!?!?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:06:45am |
Watching “Always Sunny” from last night. They’re debating the use of “black face”. Then they equate Darth Vader with being in black face because it was James Earl Jones’ voice and a white actor inside a black mask.
Who would think of that but those guys?
Funny as hell.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:11:29am |
re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching “Always Sunny” from last night. They’re debating the use of “black face”. Then they equate Darth Vader with being in black face because it was James Earl Jones’ voice and a white actor inside a black mask.
Who would think of that but those guys?
Funny as hell.
Read the liner notes to Michelle Schocked’s “Arkansas Traveller”, which was very much a tribute to the “blackface minstrel” style of American music.
She said that she would have like to appear on the album cover in blackface, but knew what a sh*t storm of PC protest it would provoke.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:29:49am |
I went for years thinking it was Rob Lowe in the movie “Soul Man” and not C. Thomas Howell.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:30:07am |
re: #157 RogueOne
and for the record:
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
Come out into the light people…
Yawn.
I guarantee that you, hell, all of us hold a loony belief or two.
Call me when she starts inciting the nuts with her conspiracies on her show.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:34:20am |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
OMG! Just saw a very unfortunate typo from “yours’ truly” yesterday.
Talking about Soros and what happened during his existence under Nazis.
I meant to say “Can’t imagine living through that time.”
What I typed was “Can imagine living through that time.”
Really. I can’t imagine living through that time. Hopefully no one thought I was that nonchalant about living as a Jewish child through a Nazi occupation.
No one probably noticed… but, gosh.
Do you know who else could imagine living through that time?…HITLER!!!
//
Good Morning FBV and other assorted lizards!
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rwdflynavy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:34:55am |
re: #166 Varek Raith
Yawn.
I guarantee that you, hell, all of us hold a loony belief or two.
Call me when she starts inciting the nuts with her conspiracies on her show.
It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you…
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:35:54am |
re: #168 rwdflynavy
It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you…
The US government is actively concealing the existence of extraterrestrials.
There.
I said it.
And believe it.
:P
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:39:21am |
re: #169 Varek Raith
The US government is actively concealing the existence of extraterrestrials.
There.
I said it.
And believe it.
:P
concealing?? CONCEALING!?!?!
They’re out in the open !!
[Link: www.politicolnews.com…]
[Link: www.michaeltotten.com…]
[Link: www.sportable.com…]
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Ericus58 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:41:01am |
Firesheep developer: Facebook ignoring huge security problem
[Link: www.komonews.com…]
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rwdflynavy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:42:15am |
re: #169 Varek Raith
The US government is actively concealing the existence of extraterrestrials.
There.
I said it.
And believe it.
:P
I don’t want to turn this into an argument.
I just don’t see how the US government can actually accomplish this…If the ETs have the technology to get here, how can our government keep them secret, unless it was a one time crash in the 50’s and the aliens all died. Even so, why didn’t more come and why do they only land in the US so we can control the info?
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McSpiff Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:42:44am |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
OMG! Just saw a very unfortunate typo from “yours’ truly” yesterday.
Talking about Soros and what happened during his existence under Nazis.
I meant to say “Can’t imagine living through that time.”
What I typed was “Can imagine living through that time.”
Really. I can’t imagine living through that time. Hopefully no one thought I was that nonchalant about living as a Jewish child through a Nazi occupation.
No one probably noticed… but, gosh.
Heh I noticed that while lurking on the thread. Seemed obvious enough what you meant, and I couldn’t think of a way to bug you about it without coming across as a jerk so I left it.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:43:38am |
re: #172 rwdflynavy
I don’t want to turn this into an argument.
I just don’t see how the US government can actually accomplish this…If the ETs have the technology to get here, how can our government keep them secret, unless it was a one time crash in the 50’s and the aliens all died. Even so, why didn’t more come and why do they only land in the US so we can control the info?
It’s just a conspiracy that I indulge in.
You can’t argue me out of it, as it’s irrational to begin with.
I’m weird, no?
:)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:44:30am |
re: #172 rwdflynavy
why didn’t more come
They came
They saw
Nothing of interest
Move along ,, nothing to see here !!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:47:13am |
re: #172 rwdflynavy
I think it’s hysterical that folks believe that the Government could keep anything like that a secret.
There are folks also think there’s a cure for cancer and that the Pharmaceuticals and Health Care industry are hiding it to protect their profits.
I’ve known doctors who have lost family members to Cancer. Yeah… they’re gonna suppress it for profit.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:48:34am |
re: #174 Varek Raith
It’s just a conspiracy that I indulge in.
You can’t argue me out of it, as it’s irrational to begin with.
I’m weird, no?:)
The aliens made a deal with the Feds.
:P
Come on, I need something crazy to believe in!
| 179 |
rwdflynavy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:48:45am |
re: #174 Varek Raith
It’s just a conspiracy that I indulge in.
You can’t argue me out of it, as it’s irrational to begin with.
I’m weird, no?:)
Got it! You are no weirder than most on this site, myself included…
| 180 |
Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:49:30am |
re: #179 rwdflynavy
Got it! You are no weirder than most on this site, myself included…
I just can’t let it go.
It’s been with me since I learned of Roswell when I was 6.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:54:38am |
1. go to Googlemaps.
2. go to “get directions”.
3. type japan as the start location.
4. type china as end location.
5. go to direction #43.
6. laugh
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:56:07am |
re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
1. go to Googlemaps.
2. go to “get directions”.
3. type japan as the start location.
4. type china as end location.
5. go to direction #43.
6. laugh
Rofl.
43. Jet ski across the Pacific Ocean
782 km
| 184 |
Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:58:05am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:01:02am |
re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Butt munch…
Sorry man.
Dammit, it can’t calculate other odd routes, like the US to Abu Dhabi.
:(
| 187 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:02:17am |
re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
1. go to Googlemaps.
2. go to “get directions”.
3. type japan as the start location.
4. type china as end location.
5. go to direction #43.Sounds like a lot of work to me!!
| 188 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:02:42am |
re: #186 Varek Raith
I know… I’ve looked. I’m sure there are others. I’m sure I won’t find them.
I only found that one because someone pointed it out to me.
| 189 |
Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:04:09am |
re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I know… I’ve looked. I’m sure there are others. I’m sure I won’t find them.
I only found that one because someone pointed it out to me.
Try, Japan to US.
Look at 27 and 38.
| 190 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:05:21am |
Just saw the President on the Teevee. Is President Obama aging rapidly or did he just get elected right when he was going to start aging.
He and Bush appeared to have aged quite a bit… but when you go into office nearing or around 50… doesn’t it just make sense that you start graying and stuff?
| 191 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:06:30am |
re: #189 Varek Raith
Mebbe it’s the Japanese.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:07:14am |
re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Im used to have a photo of a road sign in Massachusetts that for a section of the highway you were on
95 SOUTH
and
128 NORTH
at the same time
(and going the other way, vice versa)
| 193 |
Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:11:45am |
re: #192 sattv4u2
Im used to have a photo of a road sign in Massachusetts that for a section of the highway you were on
95 SOUTH
and
128 NORTH
at the same time(and going the other way, vice versa)
I like the “Wrong Way” signs.
Always makes you double check…
| 194 |
Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:13:25am |
re: #192 sattv4u2
Like this?
Image: 800px-US_1_north_at_I-95_128.jpg
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:14:54am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:15:48am |
re: #193 Varek Raith
“I saw a sign said ‘Wrong Way’. How they know where I’m going?”
-Some Native American Comedian I saw years ago.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:16:14am |
Oh ,, and here’s another one
Every Road Leads North! re: #194 Varek Raith
Like this?
Image: 800px-US_1_north_at_I-95_128.jpg
Yup ,.,,, but the one I had was on the actual highway. Two seperate signs on the same post
(and btw ,, I know exactly where the one you posted is)
| 198 |
Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:19:00am |
re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
“I saw a sign said ‘Wrong Way’. How they know where I’m going?”
-Some Native American Comedian I saw years ago.
| 199 |
RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:20:02am |
re: #166 Varek Raith
Yawn.
I guarantee that you, hell, all of us hold a loony belief or two.
Call me when she starts inciting the nuts with her conspiracies on her show.
I don’t doubt that but I’m much more of an Occam’s razor personality. I don’t indulge in conspiracy theories and, in all honesty, believe that people who do are borderline retarded. I don’t believe Bush invaded Iraq for Halliburton or that Obama blew up an oil rig, or that either the Koch Bros./Soros are out to overthrow the government. Oh, and “Wag The Dog” is a movie not a political philosophy.
| 200 |
RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:20:45am |
re: #168 rwdflynavy
It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you…
Which is what Rep. Clyburn seems to be finding out.
| 201 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:31:09am |
re: #45 austin_blue
Stewart, once again, shows himself as the voice of sanity. Both Fox and MSNBC do the country no great favor. I’m a Liberal Democrat. I don’t watch MSNBC. Nor do I watch Fox. Pointless.
Happy vets day from a former member of both the 644th Bomb Squadron and the 46th Air Refueling Squadron of the 410th Bomb Wing at K. I. Sawyer AFB in beautiful Marquette, Michigan.
I actually had a T-shirt that said “Yes, ma’am, I fly jets. How do you like me so far?”
Sad to say, it worked.
I was stationed there. Very cold area but beautiful.
Good morning lizards!
| 202 |
RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:33:46am |
How did wolf Blitzer end up being a presenter on the Soul Train awards? Were they looking for the whitest guy they could and got screwed by the CMA awards going on at the same time so they had to go to wolf?
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Accepts a ‘Soul Train’ Award
[Link: www.mediabistro.com…]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:46:13am |
re: #202 RogueOne
“Wolf Blitzer. Like he didn’t make up that name for Desert Storm.”
-Wayne Campbell
| 204 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:48:25am |
This Week in History: Hitler assassination attempt bombs
Despite being a carpenter with a grade-school education, Johann Georg Elser came closer to killing Hitler than anyone else.
On November 8, 1939, Adolph Hitler very narrowly escaped an assassination attempt by Johann Georg Elser. The bomb, which was supposed to kill the Fuhrer, did indeed explode just thirteen minutes late.Elser was born in 1903 in Württemberg, Germany. He worked as a carpenter for most of his life, but also spent four years at a watch factory where he acquired the skills necessary to building a timer for the bomb.
Elser was opposed to Nazism from the movement’s outset, and after 1933 he refused to perform the Hitler salute or join others in listening to Hitler’s speeches broadcast on the radio. For him, voting in the Third Reich’s pseudo-elections or referendums was also out of the question.
Elser’s opposition was initially motivated by concerns about working conditions and the lowering of wages. He detested the restrictions on civil rights but especially despised Nazi restrictions on workers’ freedoms, such as the choice of employment and the right to unionize. Equally, he loathed Nazi propaganda and the party’s total control of the educational system as well as the curtailing of religious freedoms.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:51:11am |
Grape Jelly (in place of maple syrup) and lots o’ melted butter on waffles
yum!
| 206 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:52:51am |
Palestinian jailed for logging on to Facebook as ‘God’ to criticize Islam
QALQILIYA, West Bank (AP) – A mysterious blogger who set off an uproar in the Arab world by claiming he was God and hurling insults at the Prophet Muhammad is now behind bars - caught in a sting that used Facebook to track him down.
The case of the unlikely apostate, a shy barber from this backwater West Bank town, is highlighting the limits of tolerance in the Western-backed Palestinian Authority - and illustrating a new trend by authorities in the Arab world to mine social media for evidence.
Residents of Qalqiliya say they had no idea that Walid Husayin - the
26-year-old son of a Muslim scholar - was leading a double life.Known as a quiet man who prayed with his family each Friday and spent his evenings working in his father’s barbershop, Husayin was secretly posting anti-religion rants on the Internet during his free time.
Now, he faces a potential life prison sentence on heresy charges for insulting the divine essence. Many in this conservative Muslim town say he should be killed for renouncing Islam, and even family members say he should remain behind bars for life.
“He should be burned to death,” said Abdul-Latif Dahoud, a 35-year-old Qalqiliya resident. The execution should take place in public to be an example to others, he added.
Over several years, Husayin is suspected of posting arguments in favor of atheism on English and Arabic blogs, where he described the God of Islam as having the attributes of a primitive Bedouin. He called Islam a blind faith that grows and takes over people’s minds where there is irrationality and ignorance.
If that wasn’t enough, he is also suspected of creating three Facebook groups in which he sarcastically declared himself God and ordered his followers, among other things, to smoke marijuana in verses that spoof the Muslim holy book, the Quran. At its peak, Husayin’s Arabic-language blog had more than 70,000 visitors, overwhelmingly from Arab countries.
His Facebook groups elicited hundreds of angry comments, detailed death threats and the formation of more than a dozen Facebook groups against him, including once called Fight the blasphemer who said ‘I am God.’
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:56:12am |
re: #172 rwdflynavy
I don’t want to turn this into an argument.
I just don’t see how the US government can actually accomplish this…If the ETs have the technology to get here, how can our government keep them secret, unless it was a one time crash in the 50’s and the aliens all died. Even so, why didn’t more come and why do they only land in the US so we can control the info?
1947 was just one battle between the alien factions. The crash was of a heroic crew that died saving their American allies.
The first ones arrived here in in 1908 (Tunguska was the result of their ship detonating in the atmosphere). They quickly infiltrated the Bolsheviks and have been trying to direct human history so that they can rebuild what they need to get home ever since.
The Vilani are sneaky like that…
/Maybe, maybe not. This is the internet afterall and we’re all just Traveller along the way ;)
| 208 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:01:34am |
Before I go… met a Sikh yesterday at a gas station. Yesterday I linked a story where the Army has let a Sikh join for the first time since 85 (the shaving and turban issue was what kept them out).
Anyway, I struck up a conversation with this man. We stood and talked about the rule relaxation for ten minutes. He was telling me that Sikhs have been fighting for the right to serve in the US armed forces for years. I told him that from what I have read about Sikhs, I certainly wanted them fighting on my side. He laughed and said, “So, you have read about Sikhs.”
Ever get a chance to strike up a conversation with a Sikh? Do it. They’re fascinating (at least the five I have spoken with were). Maybe it is the “exotic-ness” but, really… wonderful, warm folks.
Gotta run.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:06:36am |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Before I go… met a Sikh yesterday at a gas station. Yesterday I linked a story where the Army has let a Sikh join for the first time since 85 (the shaving and turban issue was what kept them out).
Anyway, I struck up a conversation with this man. We stood and talked about the rule relaxation for ten minutes. He was telling me that Sikhs have been fighting for the right to serve in the US armed forces for years. I told him that from what I have read about Sikhs, I certainly wanted them fighting on my side. He laughed and said, “So, you have read about Sikhs.”
Ever get a chance to strike up a conversation with a Sikh? Do it. They’re fascinating (at least the five I have spoken with were). Maybe it is the “exotic-ness” but, really… wonderful, warm folks.
Gotta run.
I’ve met quite a few in the Charlottesville area. They are all nice people. I haven’t met a Sikh I didn’t like here.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:06:57am |
Ever get a chance to strike up a conversation with a Sikh
Grammar shoolmate / U-14 select travel soccer team ofm my sons family are Sihks. We often carpooled with them to away games
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:09:44am |
re: #210 sattv4u2
wow ,, that sentence was constructed poorly!
I’ll blame it on only having slept for 3 of the last 27 hours!
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Ericus58 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:12:26am |
re: #206 NJDhockeyfan
Palestinian jailed for logging on to Facebook as ‘God’ to criticize Islam
Ah - those adherents to the RoP.
Just mis-understood.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:13:06am |
Sikhs are the the most powerful religious group. Just one letter removed from Sith - how can they not be?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:30:19am |
Here are some protesters I can support…
Topless Ukraine feminists protest Iranian woman’s death sentence
Kiev: A group of female protesters went topless in Ukraine on Thursday at an event promoting Iranian culture, to demonstrate against the death sentence handed down to a woman in Iran for murder and adultery.
Five members of the Ukrainian group Femen tore off their clothing and shouted slogans against what they called court-sanctioned murder during the event at Kiev’s Ukrainian House convention centre, which featured hundreds of Ukrainian and Iranian dignitaries.
‘Don’t kill women!’ one Femen activist shouted.
Security guards expelled the protesters after a scuffle.
A Ukrainian official later apologised to the audience for the disturbance, saying ‘at least we don’t have to be ashamed about what we have on display.’
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:30:38am |
re: #212 Ericus58
Ah - those adherents to the RoP.
Just mis-understood.
“He should be burned to death,” said Abdul-Latif Dahoud, a 35-year-old Qalqiliya resident. “The execution should take place in public to be an example to others”, he added
EXCUSE LIST
1) He was just misunderstood
2) He didn’t mean it LITERALLY
3) the translator got it wrong
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:31:04am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:41:14am |
re: #216 sattv4u2
“He should be burned to death,” said Abdul-Latif Dahoud, a 35-year-old Qalqiliya resident. “The execution should take place in public to be an example to others”, he added
EXCUSE LIST
1) He was just misunderstood
2) He didn’t mean it LITERALLY
3) the translator got it wrong
“I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD.”
~ Jake Walid Husayin Blues
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:58:51am |
Here is the problem the president is going to have in moving to the middle, especially in regards to the debt problem…
Typical response from the left:
The Hijacked Commission
By PAUL KRUGMAN
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Can anything be salvaged from this wreck? I doubt it. The deficit commission should be told to fold its tents and go away.
While that is slightly better than the histrionics that were tossed around a couple days ago it’s not a good sign that the left is going to let the dems move to the middle without pitching a fit.
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RogueOne Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:04:03am |
Paperwork is finished, time to get real work accomplished. Have a good weekend people.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:11:16am |
Grunt. I’ve run out of steam. I see nothing happening politically for the next 6 years that will benefit this nation. It may even extend beyond the next 6 years.
Anywho, Mediamatters won a charity auction to have dinner with Rupert Murdoch. That should be interesting.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:15:16am |
re: #221 Gus 802
…Mediamatters won a charity auction to have dinner with Rupert Murdoch. That should be interesting.
Whatever charity gets the money is the real winner there.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:18:10am |
re: #223 Gus 802
The wait staff. /
Wouldn’t you love to be a waiter at that table? The conversations would be interesting.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:20:35am |
re: #224 NJDhockeyfan
Wouldn’t you love to be a waiter at that table? The conversations would be interesting.
I pictured them (David Brock and Rupert Murdoch) high fiving each other as they plot their next move. Sort of like behind the scenes of the good cop and the bad cop. But then I realized I’m drinking some bland decaf tea.
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celticdragon Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:25:12am |
re: #25 engineer dog
my application to be a lesbian was rejected on some technical gender issue
stupid rules
Heh!
You have no idea just how many rules there are when it comes to actually changing your gender…
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:26:27am |
re: #225 Gus 802
I pictured them (David Brock and Rupert Murdoch) high fiving each other as they plot their next move. Sort of like behind the scenes of the good cop and the bad cop. But then I realized I’m drinking some bland decaf tea.
David Brock will invite George Soros as one of his guests, Soros will offer Murdoch so much money for Fox News that he can’t say no, Fox News will cease to exist.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:27:06am |
re: #227 NJDhockeyfan
David Brock will invite George Soros as one of his guests, Soros will offer Murdoch so much money for Fox News that he can’t say no, Fox News will cease to exist.
There you go. Problem(s) solved.
//
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:28:02am |
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:28:12am |
re: #227 NJDhockeyfan
David Brock will invite George Soros as one of his guests, Soros will offer Murdoch so much money for Fox News that he can’t say no, Fox News will cease to exist.
Brock will arrive at the table and see Murdoch there. He’ll say: “Where’s Soros, he texted me to say he would get here before me?”
Murdoch will say, in a creepy voice: “I’m already here… David.”
He will then peel off the rubber mask.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:29:19am |
Cripes. Drudge is still on those new TSA rules. He linked to another Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson at Infowars — with today’s date. It’s on top too. What the heck is his problem?
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Interesting Times Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:31:04am |
re: #231 Gus 802
Cripes. Drudge is still on those new TSA rules. He linked to another Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson at Infowars — with today’s date. It’s on top too. What the heck is his problem?
The new TSA rules are being implemented under a Democratic administration rather than a Republican one?
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celticdragon Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:31:38am |
re: #219 RogueOne
Here is the problem the president is going to have in moving to the middle, especially in regards to the debt problem…
Typical response from the left:
The Hijacked Commission
By PAUL KRUGMAN
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
While that is slightly better than the histrionics that were tossed around a couple days ago it’s not a good sign that the left is going to let the dems move to the middle without pitching a fit.
The dem base is highly pissed that Obama made concessions and played ball with the GOP for months on health care for absolutely fucking nothing in return. Even after GOP demands where put into the bill, there was not a single GOP vote. There is no willingness on the left to compromise at this point, much of which feels they could have had a single payer option still on the table for all the good it did them to negoiate with Republicans who actually said at a meeting that they could not vote for any health care under any circumstances no matter how GOP friendly it was. They feel they got burned on health care and they are not going to try playing nice again.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:32:16am |
re: #231 Gus 802
Cripes. Drudge is still on those new TSA rules. He linked to another Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson at Infowars — with today’s date. It’s on top too. What the heck is his problem?
I can’t remember when the last time I was at Drudge’s website. Why do you go there?
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:32:18am |
re: #232 publicityStunted
The new TSA rules are being implemented under a Democratic administration rather than a Republican one?
Yeah. That’s it of course. But it doesn’t seem like anyone’s biting. Drudge has been at it all week.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:33:12am |
re: #233 celticdragon
It would be interesting to see some examples of where right wingers think that the GOP has compromised with Obama over the last 2 years (in the sense of voting for something that was not originally part of their aims).
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:33:52am |
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
I can’t remember when the last time I was at Drudge’s website. Why do you go there?
I use the general links. Plus, keeping an eye on Drudge has become a hobby of mine I guess. The weird shit doesn’t really phase me though.
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celticdragon Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:35:54am |
re: #236 iossarian
It would be interesting to see some examples of where right wingers think that the GOP has compromised with Obama over the last 2 years (in the sense of voting for something that was not originally part of their aims).
I think some of the tea crowd seem to believe that saying Obama is an American citizen is too much compromise. We are at pre-Civil War levels of polarization and political hostility.
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darthstar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:36:55am |
Okay…just watched the full, unedited, 49 minute interview between Rachel and Jon. I thought it was very good. I haven’t read the comments above, but did read some comments over at dKos where it was posted. It seems some people still suffer from Tucker Carlson syndrome - expecting Stewart to perform like a monkey - over there. That’s sad.
What’s that line from Nirvana? “Here we are now, entertain us!” Anyway, I’ll read what people said upthread now. Good interview, though…watch the whole thing if you haven’t already.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:43:18am |
re: #238 celticdragon
I think some of the tea crowd seem to believe that saying Obama is an American citizen is too much compromise. We are at pre-Civil War levels of polarization and political hostility.
I guess part of Stewart’s point in the interview is that there may well be sane examples of compromise, but that these don’t get any kind of coverage because they don’t fit the Dem/GOP conflict narrative.
Having said that, I can’t think of any, which is why I’d be interested if someone could provide some.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:52:49am |
WTF?!?!?
Amazon pulls ‘Pedophile’s Guide,’ author speaks about book (video)
The man who wrote the controversial book regarding pedophilia that was pulled from sale by Amazon.com, is now speaking out.
According to Phillip R. Greaves II, he wrote ‘The Pedophile’s Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-lover’s Code of Conduct’ because he believes pedophiles have been “unfairly demonized,” reports Bakersfield Now.
“What they don’t realize is that the word ‘pedophile’ itself means someone who loves children,” said Greaves. “You’re not someone who loves children if you’re raping, murdering and killing them.”
Greaves also claims he is not a pedophile and said “I only have sex with adults.”
Prior to the book receiving publicity, Greaves had only sold one copy on Amazon’s Web site after a week and a half. However, once news of the book spread, over 3,000 copies sold, reports CBS News.
After a public outcry resulted in many threatening to boycott Amazon if the book was not pulled, the major online retailer defended the publication saying “Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because their message is objectionable.”
Nonetheless, by Wednesday night, Amazon had removed the book from its site.
There are truly sick SOBs in the world. I cannot understand why someone would write a book like that of can find a company to publish it. Creep factor is very high on this story.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:57:00am |
re: #237 Gus 802
…keeping an eye on Drudge has become a hobby of mine I guess. The weird shit doesn’t really phase me though.
I can’t do it. Every couple of months I’ll try looking at some wingnut site or other, and I usually can’t take reading any of them for more a couple of minutes.
My last foray was into Ayn Rand stuff. I don’t remember where I heard of Leni Riefenstahl (maybe here), but I googled her and her photos immediately reminded me of the woman with the globe of the Harpy’s site. That, in turn, led to googling the Ayn Rand stuff. Truly bizarre stuff.
The internet has an endless supply of crazy, doesn’t it? The ability of the human mind to go in all sorts of different directions seems nearly infinite.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:00:03am |
Garfield creator apologizes for ill-timed strip
Cartoonist Jim Davis apologized Thursday for a Garfield strip that some veterans may have found offensive.
The strip ran on Veterans Day in newspapers across the country. It shows a spider daring the pudgy orange cat to squash it. The spider tells Garfield that if he is killed, “they will hold an annual day of remembrance in my honor.”
The final panel shows a spider-teacher asking its students if they know why spiders celebrate “National Stupid Day.”
Davis, of Muncie, Ind., said in a statement posted on his website that he didn’t know the strip would appear on Veterans Day. He said it was written nearly a year ago and called the publication Thursday “the worst timing ever.”
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Interesting Times Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:02:27am |
re: #243 NJDhockeyfan
Feature-Paged earlier: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:02:32am |
re: #243 NJDhockeyfan
Poor guy. Classy of him to apologise but some syndicator needs their butt kicked for the decision to run that on Veterans day.
I can’t imagine there was too much outrage over the strip. I’m guessing most veterans weren’t thinking it was a shot at them.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:04:02am |
re: #241 NJDhockeyfan
Check out this quote from the author:
“This is my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certain rules for these adults to follow,” the author wrote in the product description. “I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught.”
What makes people this way? Jeezus.
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Interesting Times Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:04:40am |
re: #242 CuriousLurker
The internet has an endless supply of crazy, doesn’t it? The ability of the human mind to go in all sorts of different directions seems nearly infinite.
This comment by WindUpBird said it best:
Basically, what I’m saying is, these people were always angry, they’re always out there, but now they’re visible and they have a modern internet to inflict their aggression on others…it’s as if every drunk driver was given a free Corvette and a tank of gas and let loose on the interstate.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:06:36am |
re: #242 CuriousLurker
I can’t do it. Every couple of months I’ll try looking at some wingnut site or other, and I usually can’t take reading any of them for more a couple of minutes.
My last foray was into Ayn Rand stuff. I don’t remember where I heard of Leni Riefenstahl (maybe here), but I googled her and her photos immediately reminded me of the woman with the globe of the Harpy’s site. That, in turn, led to googling the Ayn Rand stuff. Truly bizarre stuff.
The internet has an endless supply of crazy, doesn’t it? The ability of the human mind to go in all sorts of different directions seems nearly infinite.
Drudge is my limit though. There’s far worse out there and the Harpy’s is one of them. I often wonder how people like her have the stamina to be so enraged and obsessed every single day of the week on one specific target.
I’ll observe what he links and how he re-writes the titles. But I’ll never venture out into Lew Rockwell country unless it’s the topic of a thread. I can if I wanted to and it will make my stomach turn but I have other things on my mind too like being broke.
Of course I would include the opposite end with sites like Indymedia or World Can’t Wait, A.N.S.W.E.R., etc. And the truther sites — blech.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:07:21am |
re: #246 negativ When I read this:
“…establishing certain rules for these adults to follow.”
The first thought in my mind was:
Like: DON’T TOUCH THE KIDDIES!!!!
The author and a few dozen people from the publisher need to have their hard drives checked by the FBI.
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Slap Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:07:26am |
Morning, scaly ones.
My wife saw this, and it cracked me up. OT, but….
Somali Pirates Refuse to Board Carnival Cruise Ships
A Friday morning giggle…..
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TheSwedish Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:10:50am |
“Rachel Maddow’s very uncomfortable interview…”
I don’t think it was uncomfortable at all, although Jon’s flu symptoms may have created a Kennedy/Nixon effect, appearance-wise.
I watch both of these folks when I can, and they are pros, absolute pros, however, I wish Rachel would use her intellectual heft as a Rhodes Scholar to grow her show. My understanding is that she did her Rhodes thesis on the effect of AIDS on prison health care in Britain and the United States. No one, and I mean no one, in the mainstream media covers in any depth the problems facing our prison system. Rachel could pull it off, and she’d make one hell of a positive difference.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:13:39am |
re: #247 publicityStunted
This comment by WindUpBird said it best:
Heh, that’s a great quote—WUB is really good at that.
I could’ve gone through life quite happily without knowing how many rageaholics were out there. I’m sure they exist on the far left too, though it’s the right I run into more often (probably because most of the new info I get is from here).
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:15:28am |
re: #252 TheSwedish
It does kinda make me wonder how brilliant people with a public forum often end up doing investigative reports with all the intellectual heft of “behind the scenes of the Jersey Shore”.
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TheSwedish Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:16:07am |
re: #243 NJDhockeyfan
Now, I wish Davis’d apologize for introducing us to “Garfield” at all. The strip is consistently, aggressively unfunny. I mean, really, the only cool thing to come of it was the suction-cup Garfield you can put in your car window.
Somebody even started a website called “Garfield Minus Garfield” (self-explanatory), which is an absolute riot.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:18:48am |
re: #249 Gus 802
I can never make it through more than a couple of paragraphs on the Harpy’s site. I’ve never even heard of some of the others you mentioned. (Not gonna look, not today anyway.)
Drat, I wanted to say more, but my taxi driver just called and said she’s be here in 5 mins. Gotta run.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:19:07am |
re: #249 Gus 802
Drudge is my limit though. There’s far worse out there and the Harpy’s is one of them. I often wonder how people like her have the stamina to be so enraged and obsessed every single day of the week on one specific target.
Check out the JREF forum one of these days. It’s like an insane asylum at times. Conspiracy theorists of all types, Truthers, Holocaust deniers, moon hoaxers, etc. You can also find psychics, quack medicine, everything. The non-crazy forum regulars somehow have the stamina to debunk the same old stuff all the time.
For a while, there was a significant portion of Truthers that were operating under the assumption that JREF is some sort of New World Order cover-up perpetuation machine, and that all the skeptics were just CIA / NSA / whatever disinformation agents. Check out the giant threads from around 2006 or so. The crazy was of epic proportions at that time.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:20:20am |
re: #257 negativ
Ooooo… That’s going into your permenant file. /
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:20:44am |
re: #255 TheSwedish
I know that this is now the standard view of Garfield, but for the sake of contrariness I will say that:
a) I loved Garfield comics when I was a kid, and
b) some still maintain their status today (the “piano falling in the field on Monday” strip will be lodged in my head until I die)
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:21:25am |
Heh
Randy Scheunemann, Sarah Palin Adviser, Bankrolled By George Soros
That would be Republican lobbyist Randy Scheunemann, Palin’s foreign policy adviser and a member of her small inner circle. He runs a Washington, D.C., consulting firm called Orion Strategies. Scheunemann and a partner have since 2003 been paid over $150,000 by one of Soros’ organizations for lobbying work, according to federal disclosure forms reviewed by Salon. The lobbying, which has continued to the present, centers on legislation involving sanctions and democracy promotion in Burma.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:23:32am |
With a few Billion dollars to toss around it would be easier to identify who hasn’t benefitted from Soros political activities.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:23:57am |
re: #260 Killgore Trout
Heh
Randy Scheunemann, Sarah Palin Adviser, Bankrolled By George Soros
I get the point/ irony
But a DC consulting firm getting $150,000 over the course of 7 years doesn’t even pay a receptionists salary!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:25:18am |
re: #261 DaddyG
With a few Billion dollars to toss around it would be easier to identify who hasn’t benefitted from Soros political activities.
Zactically
He’s the Kevin Bacon of dona-tors
All trace back to him within 6 steps
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:26:09am |
re: #246 negativ
Check out this quote from the author:
What makes people this way? Jeezus.
What makes people support this cretin?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:26:32am |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:26:40am |
This probably isn;t even newsworthy but….
Caught red-handed: Beck doctors video and lies about Soros quote
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darthstar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:30:13am |
re: #266 Killgore Trout
This probably isn;t even newsworthy but…
Caught red-handed: Beck doctors video and lies about Soros quote
What Beck’s viewers hear:
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Soros blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Obama blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Tides Foundation blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Soros blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Obama blah, blah, blah, Pelosi blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:35:36am |
re: #268 darthstar
What Beck’s viewers hear:
Beck fans don’t care and everybody else just assumes it’s all bullshit anyways. Dan Rather was nothing compared to what fox news does today.
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darthstar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:36:53am |
re: #269 Killgore Trout
Beck fans don’t care and everybody else just assumes it’s all bullshit anyways. Dan Rather was nothing compared to what fox news does today.
Yes, but Fox News would look good on Charles’ wall next to Rather.
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noquacks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:37:03am |
To me, the main difference between them is that Stewart is immaculate when it comes to examing his roll as a comedian and what the roll of the news organizatioins are. Maddow kept trying to say they are akin because she tries to interject humor into her “reporting”. Stewart was tyring to get her to understand that what he does is comment on events, already reported, humorously. He doesn’t see his job as delivering the news as his job. However, he was very clear that he believes people who call themselves news reporters need to check their own biases and to realize that they are subject to the pressures of what makes money.
Very interesting when he astutely pointed out that cable news stations have to report news 24 hours a day but that there isn’t any thing interesting to report 24 hours a day so they have become more and more outlandish. He used “Balloon Boy” as an example of a non-story that became a story because they news stations were desperate for filler. As a result, there develops an indistiuishable line between what is news and what is not news.
There was much more to this interview. Rachel - always intelligent but immature and really, not funny. She was intiminated by Stewart and alot of what he said when over her head. He pointed out that she was responding to things he hadn’t said.
Stewart is really quite a guy.
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Stan the Demanded Plan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:38:35am |
BreakingNews
Tennessee student convicted of hacking Sarah Palin’s email sentenced to one year in federal custody [Link: bit.ly…]
Damn.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:39:40am |
Woops!
Terror Group Gets ‘A’ Rating From Better Business Bureau?
The Better Business Bureau, one of the country’s best known consumer watchdog groups, is being accused by business owners of running a “pay for play” scheme in which A plus ratings are awarded to those who pay membership fees, and F ratings used to punish those who don’t.
To prove the point, a group of Los Angeles business owners paid $425 to the Better Business Bureau and were able to obtain an A minus grade for a non-existent company called Hamas, named after the Middle Eastern terror group.
“Right now, this rating system is really unworthy of consumer trust or confidence,” said Connecticut attorney general Richard Blumenthal in an interview to be broadcast as part of an ABC News investigation airing tonight on 20/20.
In an official demand letter sent to the national headquarters of the Better Business Bureau Thursday, Blumenthal called on the BBB to stop using its grading system, which he said was “potentially harmful and misleading” to consumers.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:40:23am |
Good news. The illegal alien living with me is starting a new job making more than me. USA!!!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:41:55am |
re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar
Good news. The illegal alien living with me is starting a new job making more than me. USA!!!
Will they get free college tuition as well?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:42:05am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:45:29am |
re: #277 sattv4u2
Damn?
It’s okay to despise Palin all you want, but a crime was committed (according to the trial)
No, no. Just like in 2004 when “Get out the vote” tires were slashed. No biggie.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:46:10am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:46:27am |
GAAHH
Anyone else having trouble with LGF?
I’m using FireFox and still have the spinning wheels of death as well as double posts!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:46:43am |
Speaking of the crazy, now playing at the JREF:
The atom bomb attacks on Japan were faked
The Pearl Harbor attack was a false flag attack in the sense that the Japanese government cooperated with the U.S. government, including helping the U.S. government to fake two atom bomb explosions.
(He’s serious.)
Check out the Zapruder film and watch Jackie Kennedy’s behavior. It looks to me like she shot JFK point-blank.
(He also thinks JFK was afflicted by a fast-acting poison.)
There’s also a thread discussing possibly the most bizarre conspiracy theory I have ever heard: music itself is a conspiracy.
From this historic evidence in Rockefeller Foundation Archives, it is clear that the investors in A=440Hz “standard tuning,” some of the least trust-worthy entities on earth, directed the US Navy’s involvement in this “black-op” engaging the consortium-controlled networks. These findings strongly suggest the military’s acoustic frequency research and technological developments advanced during the 1930s to induce psychosocial pathology, herd behavior, emotional distress, and “mass hysteria,” were successfully deployed and are now being used against We The People.
Good times.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:47:05am |
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
Will they get free college tuition as well?
Trust me. Unless skateboarding is a question, he ain’t getting there.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:47:59am |
re: #280 sattv4u2
GAAHH
Anyone else having trouble with LGF?
I’m using FireFox and still have the spinning wheels of death as well as double posts!
Maybe you just suck? Ever think of that?
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darthstar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:49:58am |
re: #277 sattv4u2
Damn?
It’s okay to despise Palin all you want, but a crime was committed (according to the trial)
Getting a password for a Yahoo email account by answering “What was the name of your high school mascot?” isn’t the same as exploiting vulnerabilities in software to hack into a secure server. Palin should be required to serve the same amount of time for doing government business on fucking Yahoo.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:51:38am |
re: #284 darthstar
Getting a password for a Yahoo email account by answering “What was the name of your high school mascot?” isn’t the same as exploiting vulnerabilities in software to hack into a secure server. Palin should be required to serve the same amount of time for doing government business on fucking Yahoo.
My password to everything id “Doggiestyle”.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:57:41am |
But wait, I thought Palin was in favor of lowering the restrictions on hacking into people’s email accounts (aka the Patriot Act).
I’m confused again, and it’s not even the afternoon yet!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 8:59:29am |
re: #286 iossarian
But wait, I thought Palin was in favor of lowering the restrictions on hacking into people’s email accounts (aka the Patriot Act).
I’m confused again, and it’s not even the afternoon yet!
Things are easier when you drink. TRUST ME!!!
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:00:44am |
re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar
Things are easier when you drink. TRUST ME!!!
Believe me, I am well aware of the curative powers of alcohol.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:01:32am |
re: #288 iossarian
Believe me, I am well aware of the curative powers of alcohol.
Makes Taco Bell taste good.
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bratwurst Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:02:29am |
re: #273 NJDhockeyfan
Woops!
Just goes to show you how utterly worthless BBB ratings generally are. There is a segment of the public (mostly people of a certain age) that sees the Bureau as an infallibly impartial watchdog and not what it REALLY is: a for-profit business itself.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:02:34am |
re: #286 iossarian
But wait, I thought Palin was in favor of lowering the restrictions on hacking into people’s email accounts (aka the Patriot Act).
I’m confused again, and it’s not even the afternoon yet!
Woah, the Patriot Act supports breaking into personal email accounts?
/Wow, the things you learn at LGF.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:03:45am |
re: #291 NJDhockeyfan
Woah, the Patriot Act supports breaking into personal email accounts?
/Wow, the things you learn at LGF.
They also took my last beer.
/
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:12:01am |
re: #291 NJDhockeyfan
Woah, the Patriot Act supports breaking into personal email accounts?
/Wow, the things you learn at LGF.
What do you think it supports? From the second paragraph on Wikipedia:
The Act dramatically reduced restrictions on law enforcement agencies’ ability to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records
I guess it’s OK for the government to be doing the hacking, but not concerned citizens! A position that’s perfectly understandable coming from someone who believes in the power of the government to do the right thing!
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:15:23am |
re: #272 Stanley Sea
A year of house arrest is quite different than a year in the pen.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:16:00am |
re: #294 iossarian
What do you think it supports? From the second paragraph on Wikipedia:
I guess it’s OK for the government to be doing the hacking, but not concerned citizens! A position that’s perfectly understandable coming from someone who believes in the power of the government to do the right thing!
So you believe citizens should be able to do anything the government is already allowed to do? Heh. Please tell me more!
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SteveC Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:22:46am |
re: #38 sizzleRI
That is because real strap on accidents are nothing to joke about!
“If you or someone you know has had a strap on accident or injury, they could be entitled to legal compensation…”
/(I am a non attorney spokesperson)
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cliffster Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:23:48am |
if you take a week (5 days) of vacation, is your vacation over on sunday? or is it over friday, and then it’s just a normal weekend?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:32:33am |
re: #298 cliffster
if you take a week (5 days) of vacation, is your vacation over on sunday? or is it over friday, and then it’s just a normal weekend?
What is this “vacation” of which you speak??
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:33:24am |
re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
So you believe citizens should be able to do anything the government is already allowed to do? Heh. Please tell me more!
No, I don’t. I’m simply pointing out the irony that Palin can, in the same brain, apparently accommodate the following two beliefs:
a) the government is never as effective at doing things as private citizens (she is in complete lockstep with the “government is always the problem” crowd)
b) the government should have the power to break into people’s email account, and this power should be expressly denied to private citizens
It’s made even more intriguing by her apparent rationale for taking the email attack so seriously:
“I don’t think an illegal action like this is a prank. Not when you consider how impacting it was on a presidential election. It went beyond a prank,” Sarah said at the time.
She’s basically saying that it was serious because it made her look bad in the context of an election. Which if you really wanted to go into it, would raise interesting questions about her views on how open the process of government should be.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:37:49am |
Consider the following two hypothetical* situations:
a) Government agent hacks into private email account without a warrant, discovers that citizen is seeking bomb-making materials, initiates detention of citizen
b) Private citizen hacks into presidential candidate email account, discovers candidate is in regular communication with far-right groups on how best to coordinate strategy, publicizes communication to discredit candidate
Which of these actions should be illegal, and why?
* Note, I am not saying that the current situation under discussion is exactly like b), even though there are superficial similarities.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:39:30am |
re: #301 iossarian
Consider the following two hypothetical* situations:
a) Government agent hacks into private email account without a warrant, discovers that citizen is seeking bomb-making materials, initiates detention of citizen
b) Private citizen hacks into presidential candidate email account, discovers candidate is in regular communication with far-right groups on how best to coordinate strategy, publicizes communication to discredit candidate
Which of these actions should be illegal, and why?
* Note, I am not saying that the current situation under discussion is exactly like b), even though there are superficial similarities.
Both ,, for the highlighted reasons
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:45:02am |
re: #302 sattv4u2
Both ,, for the highlighted reasons
Right, so reducing the difficulty of getting a warrant in situation a) is basically empowering the government at the expense of the private citizen. That is why I think it’s ironic that people like Palin simultaneously say that “government is the problem” and support idiotic measures like the so-called Patriot Act.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:50:01am |
re: #299 sattv4u2
What is this “vacation” of which you speak??
hypothetically speaking. if one were to be on vacation this week, does it end today, or is one still on vacation until sunday?
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claire Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:51:02am |
re: #1 Dark_Falcon
Jon’s main point was that to be relentlessly partisan is not helpful to society.
The networks have taken sides and are conducting a war. They grant amesty to people they like and demonize people they don’t. The old If you like somebody they can do no wrong and if you hate somebody they can do no right goggles. It’s fundamentally not being fair-minded. And normal people generally are, thus it’s a hyper amplified artificial reality. And both sides do it.
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Slap Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:59:11am |
re: #304 cliffster
Perspective.
If you consider weekends to be mini-vacations, problem solved. It’s all vacation.
If you only want to refer to your paid (at least, for your sake, I’m HOPING it’s paid….) time, then your vacation ends on Friday.
If you’re looking at travel plans, it’s likely best to refer to the whole block as vacation time.
Is this a semantic question, or is there some bizarre quirk of your company’s HR terminology?
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cliffster Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:03:06am |
re: #306 Slap
purely whimsical. is it time to be depressed on friday? or should one wait another two days before letting the glum settle in?
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Slap Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:06:33am |
re: #307 cliffster
Nah, here’s what you do: start drinking on Friday and continue through Sunday evening. When you wake up Monday with that major hangover, you know you’re DEFINITELY not on vacation anymore.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:10:51am |
re: #308 Slap
brilliant. that’s thinking outside the box.
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Slap Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:34am |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:01:14pm |
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pyite Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:41:24pm |
re: #5 pt barnum
I don’t see what is “uncomfortable” about it. I thought it was a great conversation.
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LRonHoover Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:30:05pm |
re: #311 000G
wow, the full interview is amazing, just amplifies my appreciation for Jon Stewart, Maddow cut all the good stuff.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:32:18pm |
Well, it looked pretty uncomfortable to me. Just sayin’, is all.
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