Is Glenn Beck on final approach to a “Network” style meltdown? While suggesting he will be set up, Beck assures his listeners ‘I’m not into child pornography’.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:05:49am |
What.
The.
Fuck.
Wow, he’s approaching critical mass.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:07:52am |
so he is into child porn then?
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:08:53am |
Has he ruled out having a clown fetish yet?
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:09:10am |
The thing is, Beck may not be into anything illegal at all. He seems like he gets his jollies just fine by spreading antisemitic, racist, insane shit on the TV whenever he wants.
But I think he has gone too far in this level of antisemitism. This isn’t citing obscure books by white supremacists. He’s now alleging the ADL is corrupt and funded by Soros.
That’s step two in the classic antisemitic attack he’s using: first identify one Jew with smears and lies, then, when other Jews defend him, imply that they’re in on it too. Soon, it’ll be all Jews he’s going after, other than the severe right-wing ones.
I wonder if he’ll have that crazy rabbi who loves the EDL on his show just to prove he’s not an antisemite.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:09:13am |
re: #2 Dreggas
WTF would even prompt him to say that?
This man is insane.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:09:29am |
re: #3 JasonA
Has he ruled out having a clown fetish yet?
He loves himself so that’s an obvious one.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:10:34am |
re: #2 Dreggas
so he is into child porn then?
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That is a very specific thing to somehow get an idea you’d be accused of.
My creepdar is pinging.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:10:34am |
re: #5 Varek Raith
WTF would even prompt him to say that?
This man is insane.
Even my right-wing Pam-following mother thinks Glenn is a crazy person.
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Slap Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:10:41am |
Hey, it’s a start.
Also not into:
bestiality porn
slasher porn
gladiator movies
waxing
the dictionary
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:11:12am |
re: #5 Varek Raith
WTF would even prompt him to say that?
This man is insane.
It’s a terrifying thought experiment to wonder what Beck is like when he’s alone, away from the camera.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:11:48am |
re: #9 Slap
Hey, it’s a start.
Also not into:
bestiality porn
slasher porn
gladiator movies
waxing
the dictionary
He’s also not that into logic.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:10am |
re: #5 Varek Raith
I have no idea. I mean that’s crazy shit right there. It’s one thing to be a conspiracy theorist, it’s another to have some fevered conspiracy involving George Soros and the ADL planting child porn to frame you. I almost look forward to the complete and utter melt down he’s about to experience.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:19am |
re: #11 Gus 802
Glenn Beck: the biggest narcissist in America today.
Nobody is perfect.
I’m nobody, btw.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:23am |
One of my husband’s friends announced, over WoW Vent:
“You know, it turns out that when he was a little boy in Indonesia, Barack Obama had a nanny who was a transsexual. When Glenn Beck heard about that, he was so happy he stopped crying.”
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elizajane Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:32am |
Glen Beck IS pornography. He’s political/social pornography.
A not-very-guilty thrill for people with no moral compass.
There is, however, no actual law against him.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:42am |
re: #10 iossarian
It’s a terrifying thought experiment to wonder what Beck is like when he’s alone, away from the camera.
He strikes me as the type that dresses up like his mother and then scolds himself.
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Merryweather Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:12:44am |
Re. the possibility of Glenn Beck having a full-on Network meltdown, I think his insanity is asymptotic. It’ll approach the very edge of what the mind can take but never actually go over it.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:13:28am |
re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist
OT but almost thinking of trying WoW, age of conan is getting kinda stail for me and need something until the Warhammer 40k MMO is released.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:13:29am |
re: #14 Varek Raith
Nobody is perfect.
I’m nobody, btw.
Whatever happened to Beck’s “I’m sick and dying” publicity stunt? Hard not to notice how that disappeared fast.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:14:01am |
This was just the coup de grace on a string of insane ravings that Beck had today, including claiming that the ADL was part of an Soros-funded anti-Jewish conspiracy.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:14:16am |
re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist
So is mine. It’s almost like he’s trying to get out in front of a story…
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:14:16am |
Someone needs to ask Glenn where else he likes to apply Vicks VapoRub…
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:14:55am |
re: #20 Gus 802
Whatever happened to Beck’s “I’m sick and dying” publicity stunt? Hard not to notice how that disappeared fast.
I won’t touch that. I was scolded, last time, for being heartless toward the poor man.
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theheat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:15:36am |
re: #20 Gus 802
For the time I’ve been keeping score, I’d say decent people expire before the creepy ones do. In fact, the creepy ones seem the most long lived.
Odds are he’s probably safe.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:16:24am |
re: #21 RadicalModerate
This was just the coup de grace on a string of insane ravings that Beck had today, including claiming that the ADL was part of an Soros-funded anti-Jewish conspiracy.
Seriously. The ADL? The A-fucking-DL? The RWR are trying to paint the ADL as a left-wing conspiracy anti-Jewish group? This is so incredibly bizarre that it boggles the mind.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:16:31am |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
I won’t touch that. I was scolded, last time, for being heartless toward the poor man.
Yeah well. I’m sick and haven’t been to the doctor in years. However, I don’t advertise it to the rest of the world. Maybe I should. I suffer silently. He’s an ass.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:17:40am |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
I won’t touch that. I was scolded, last time, for being heartless toward the poor man.
Allow me.
It was a ploy for more ratings.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:17:57am |
re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist
I’ve always been annoyed that the ADL tends to be somewhat ‘right-wing’ in terms of US politics.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:18:44am |
re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist
Seriously. The ADL? The A-fucking-DL? The RWR are trying to paint the ADL as a left-wing conspiracy anti-Jewish group? This is so incredibly bizarre that it boggles the mind.
Foxman still loves Beck though. [Link: www.salon.com…]
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:18:57am |
re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist
I’m not surprised really. I mean if you speak out against the Right you are an enemy.
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theheat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:19:07am |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
I’ve given myself permission to wish bad things on bad people. You just can’t say them in public. It’s not nice. There are a couple really, truly, horrible people I’ve had the misfortune to know personally, whose grave I’m itching to piss on. But I can’t say it in public. I guess that’s the difference. To err on the side of politeness means you say nothing.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:19:55am |
re: #29 Obdicut
I’ve always been annoyed that the ADL tends to be somewhat ‘right-wing’ in terms of US politics.
Same thing with AIPAC except they’re joined at the hip with the right.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:20:01am |
re: #32 theheat
I’ve given myself permission to wish bad things on bad people. You just can’t say them in public. It’s not nice. There are a couple really, truly, horrible people I’ve had the misfortune to know personally, whose grave I’m itching to piss on. But I can’t say it in public. I guess that’s the difference. To err on the side of politeness means you say nothing.
Do I owe you money?
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darthstar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:20:08am |
Glenn Beck’s “not into” child pornography? That’s like saying, “I’m not into Wheel of Fortune, but I still enjoy it on occasion.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:20:30am |
re: #29 Obdicut
I’ve always been annoyed that the ADL tends to be somewhat ‘right-wing’ in terms of US politics.
Last night, I mentioned to my mother that Pam was describing the ADL as ‘left-wing’. She paused, and said, “I’ve never seen them quite like that, no.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:21:02am |
re: #30 recusancy
Foxman still loves Beck though. [Link: www.salon.com…]
Yeah, well, he better get over that, because the attacks have only just started.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:21:31am |
Beck also seems to think that the “LEFT” will frame him for an Oklahoma City style bombing.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:21:34am |
re: #33 recusancy
Same thing with AIPAC except they’re joined at the hip with the right.
Yeah? How long does AIPAC get before Beck turns on them?
For reals.
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theheat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:21:39am |
re: #34 JasonA
It would take more than owing me money to make me wish bad things on you. I reserve that for only the most contemptible, evil, cruel, horrible, people.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:22:03am |
re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, well, he better get over that, because the attacks have only just started.
Battered wife syndrome. Be as anti semitic as you want but as long as you say you love Israel everything is a-ok.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:22:07am |
re: #35 darthstar
Glenn Beck’s “not into” child pornography? That’s like saying, “I’m not into Wheel of Fortune, but I still enjoy it on occasion.”
Yeah, it’s a sort of tepid way to distance yourself from something both incredibly illegal and socially and morally abhorrent.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:22:32am |
re: #29 Obdicut
I’ve always been annoyed that the ADL tends to be somewhat ‘right-wing’ in terms of US politics.
I think this is a very interesting development for the ADL, which as you point out has for a while (always?) been pretty much a right-wing outfit.
Maybe something like this can be the wedge that finally allows those enigmatic “sane conservatives” to set the crazy fringe free?
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recusancy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:22:52am |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah? How long does AIPAC get before Beck turns on them?
For reals.
I would normally say you’re crazy. But this is Beck we’re talking about.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:23:03am |
re: #38 Varek Raith
Beck also seems to think that the “LEFT” will frame him for an Oklahoma City style bombing.
LOL.
No, Glenn. I would never believe that you could bomb anything competently.
One of your dimwitted but mechanically apt followers, yes, I worry about that.
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Merryweather Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:24:23am |
re: #38 Varek Raith
Beck also seems to think that the “LEFT” will frame him for an Oklahoma City style bombing.
OK, this is getting into verrrrry creepy territory. It’s starting to sound like paranoid pre-emptive finger pointing. “If something bad happens to me, they did it!”
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:24:49am |
re: #44 theheat
Turkeys for Thanksgiving.
I was once at a rally where there was a group of women with a sign saying “Lesbians Support the Palestinian Intifada”.
Our side sprouted “Turkeys Support Thanksgiving” signs, after a quick run for Sharpies.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:25:49am |
re: #48 Merryweather
OK, this is getting into verrry creepy territory. It’s starting to sound like paranoid pre-emptive finger pointing. “If something bad happens to me, they did it!”
He’s already said something along the lines of, “if I end up dead, it was them”.
Insane.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:25:56am |
re: #48 Merryweather
OK, this is getting into verrry creepy territory. It’s starting to sound like paranoid pre-emptive finger pointing. “If something bad happens to me, they did it!”
Oh, he’s done that before. I have a vague memory—someone tell me if I’m crazy—that he’s announced on his show that he would never commit suicide, so if anything happens…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:26:03am |
re: #38 Varek Raith
Beck also seems to think that the “LEFT” will frame him for an Oklahoma City style bombing.
Didn’t Clinton blame Limbaugh for that?
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:26:11am |
Glenn Beck Says Government Will Stage “False Flag” Terror to Discredit Opposition
In an unprecedented outburst on his Fox News show earlier this week, Glenn Beck identified the threat that we have been warning about for over a year, that the powers behind the Obama administration are preparing to stage a false flag event that will be blamed on its political opposition to derail the movement against big government.
Discussing how the leftists need violence to realize their political agenda, Beck featured a clip that we wrote an article about on Sunday, where former Clintonite and Democrat operative Mark Penn says Obama needs an OKC bombing-style event to regain his popularity.“Remember, President Clinton reconnected through Oklahoma, right?” said Penn on Chris Matthews’ Hardball show on Thursday. “And the president right now seems removed. It wasn’t until that speech [after the bombing] that [Clinton] really clicked with the American public. Obama needs a similar” defining moment, according to Penn.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:26:47am |
re: #52 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn’t Clinton blame Limbaugh for that?
I don’t think he accused him of carrying it out, no.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:27:03am |
re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, he’s done that before. I have a vague memory—someone tell me if I’m crazy—that he’s announced on his show that he would never commit suicide, so if anything happens…
Yep, that’s it!
Insane.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:27:28am |
re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist
I was once at a rally where there was a group of women with a sign saying “Lesbians Support the Palestinian Intifada”.
Our side sprouted “Turkeys Support Thanksgiving” signs, after a quick run for Sharpies.
Maybe they should move to…
Oh never mind. We know the answer to that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:27:33am |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t think he accused him of carrying it out, no.
But he blamed him for making kooks, kooks.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:27:35am |
Meanwhile, the majority of the latest successful terror attacks in the US have been conducted by listeners of Beck and Limbaugh.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:28:20am |
re: #58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Meanwhile, the majority of the latest successful terror attacks in the US have been conducted by listeners of Beck and Limbaugh.
Link?
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:28:42am |
re: #42 recusancy
It’s like the fundagelical support for Israel. They support Israel because it needs to be there according to their interpretation of the bible. In the case of the Anti-Islam zealots it needs to be there to stick it to the muslims. In the case of beck it’s probably a mixture of both. He love Israel but given what he’s been saying hates the jews.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:28:49am |
By the way, I have to hand it to Google’s Adsense, for sticking a Goldline ad right below this story on the main page.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:29:46am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:29:51am |
re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar
But he blamed him for making kooks, kooks.
Like Beck, his anti-government rhetoric adds rocket fuel to the fire.
You can’t say shit like, “The government is going to kill your granny and take away our rights and guns” and expect someone not to act violently.
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Steve Dutch Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:30:10am |
re: #32 theheat
I’ve given myself permission to wish bad things on bad people.
We had a right wing idiot named Jay Sykes who regularly bashed intellectuals in our local paper (yes, the father of Charles Sykes). When he died, even some of his critics passed along their condolences. Not me. I thought “good riddance - he made the world a better place by leaving it.”
I’m not into people finding out I secretly wrote “Moby Dick,” invented the computer, or saved a litter of puppies from drowning. So don’t bother investigating me, hear?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:30:37am |
re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar
But he blamed him for making kooks, kooks.
First, he’s correct.
Secondly, Limbaugh accused him right back.
Let’s let the boys fight it out amongst themselves.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:31:19am |
re: #60 Dreggas
It’s like the fundagelical support for Israel. They support Israel because it needs to be there according to their interpretation of the bible. In the case of the Anti-Islam zealots it needs to be there to stick it to the muslims. In the case of beck it’s probably a mixture of both. He love Israel but given what he’s been saying hates the jews.
Well, he certainly hates any Jews who have their own ideas, or fail to be the perfect cut-out figures for his fantasy about Israel.
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theheat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:31:32am |
re: #56 Gus 802
That’s what I think about Log Cabin Republicans. I suppose they think they’re fighting the good fight, but they can’t seem to understand the deck is already stacked. The very thing that makes them Log Cabin Republicans is the very thing the mainstream Republicans find so “fundamentally” disgusting, and consistently lobby against.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:32:20am |
re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist
First, he’s correct.
Secondly, Limbaugh accused him right back.
Let’s let the boys fight it out amongst themselves.
Thank you.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:32:49am |
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nines09 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:34:11am |
Nice to know, Glenn. Why did you bring that up? WTF? I suggest chewing on two or three Alka-Seltzer and barking into the camera. That would be YOU to a “T”.
Cretinous piece of offal.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:34:14am |
re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar
Link?
6 Lunatics Inspired by Fox News and Glenn Beck
Charles Wilson: Sentenced to prison last week for repeatedly threatening to kill Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.). His cousin, in a letter to the court, said: “While his actions were undeniably wrong and his choices were terrible, in part they were the actions of others played out by a very gullible Charlie. He was under the spell that Glenn Beck cast, aided by the turbulent times in our economy. I don’t believe that Charlie even had the ability to actually carry out his threats.”
Byron Williams: Arrested while driving to the HQ of the liberal non-profit group The Tides Foundation carrying numerous guns and body armor, intent on killing everyone in the office, before moving on to do the same thing at the ACLU. Williams confessed he views Beck as a “schoolteacher” who “blew my mind.” The would-be killer admitted that Beck “give[s] you every ounce of evidence you could possibly need” to commit violence. He awaits trial in jail.
Jim David Adkisson: Killed two people and wounded six others in a shooting attack at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in West Knoxville, Tenn., in 2008. Adkisson was inspired by Fox commentator Bernard Goldberg: “This was a symbolic killing,” Adkisson wrote. “Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate and House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I knew these people were inaccessible to me.” Goldberg is the author of 110 People Who Are Screwing Up America (and Al Franken Is #37). UPDATE: See Bernard Goldberg’s response below.
Richard Poplawski: Charged with killing three Pittsburgh police officers who responded to a 911 call about a family dispute at his mother’s Stanton Heights home in April 2009. Polawski “loved Glenn Beck,” according to his mom.
James W. Von Brunn: Fox itself was reportedly in danger from white supremacist Von Brunn who was arrested after opening fire at security guards, killing one, at the U.S. Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. One of his targets was apparently a “Fox News location.” One of Von Brunn’s pet issues was President Obama’s birth certificate, a “debate” that got plenty of air on Fox.
Greg Lee Giusti: Arrested for threatening House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whom Beck himself has said he would like to poison. Giusti’s mom said: “Greg frequently gets in with a group of people that have really radical ideas and that are not consistent with myself or the rest of the family, which gets him into problems … I say Fox News, or all of those that are really radical, and he, that’s where he comes from.”
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dragonfire1981 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:35:40am |
Anyone else get a kick out of he part where he says he has no lies in his life?
Does he even pay attention to what he says he on his own shows?
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Merryweather Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:35:41am |
re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist
re: #50 Varek Raith
That reminds me of this absolutely insane (and racist) Australian politician, Pauline Henson, who made this video that begins: “If you’re seeing this, I have been murdered.”
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blueraven Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:36:04am |
Let’s see, Beck is concerned that a left wing conspiracy is about to attack his good name, spread lies and try to destroy him.
Projection much?
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theheat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:36:43am |
re: #72 dragonfire1981
Years ago Limbaugh said he was the most accurate person on radio/tv/whatever. And he created the statistics to prove it.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:38:16am |
re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Those are some sane people right about there. My toaster tells me stuff as well.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:38:56am |
re: #61 RadicalModerate
By the way, I have to hand it to Google’s Adsense, for sticking a Goldline ad right below this story on the main page.
They’ve obviously purchased ads for the “Glenn Beck” keyword.
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Gus Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:39:12am |
re: #74 blueraven
Let’s see, Beck is concerned that a left wing conspiracy is about to attack his good name, spread lies and try to destroy him.
Projection much?
Odd isn’t it? Glenn Beck has spent the better part of the last two years trying to destroy people’s careers through lies, innuendo, conspiracy theories, and hysteria. Now he’s worried about being “destroyed”? Frankly, the only people that spread false rumors of “child porn” are morally bankrupt wingnut bloggers.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:39:24am |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
Those are some sane people right about there. My toaster tells me stuff as well.
Don’t put the baby in the ATM!
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:40:44am |
re: #79 iossarian
Don’t put the baby in the ATM!
Don’t be silly. Thats just crazy.
ATMs are for kittens
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:41:19am |
Alex Jones just told me to make a grilled cheese!! Bastard!!
/
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Winny Spencer Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:41:20am |
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Merryweather Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:41:31am |
Beck in a nutshell: Soros set up us the bomb!
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S'latch Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:42:47am |
That guy sounds really miserable, like he is living a life of paranoia and fear. I think he is really melting.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:46:20am |
re: #86 Lawrence Schmerel
That guy sounds really miserable, like he is living a life of paranoia and fear. I think he is really melting.
I almost feel sorry for him.
Then I realize this is what this jerk deserves.
Karma is, indeed, a bitch.
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Political Atheist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:46:54am |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:47:39am |
re: #87 Varek Raith
I can’t feel sorry for him, he’s reaping what he sewed.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:48:13am |
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blueraven Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:48:14am |
re: #78 Gus 802
Odd isn’t it? Glenn Beck has spent the better part of the last two years trying to destroy people’s careers through lies, innuendo, conspiracy theories, and hysteria. Now he’s worried about being “destroyed”? Frankly, the only people that spread false rumors of “child porn” are morally bankrupt wingnut bloggers.
Either he is so paranoid, due to his own smearing tactics, that this is going to come back on him, or he is in a pre-emptive mode for damage control for something.
With Beck it’s hard to say which one.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:48:15am |
G Beck, the gift that keeps on giving….or maybe like Bad Penny, keeps coming back?….just admit how much you love it
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:48:23am |
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albusteve Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:49:59am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:50:38am |
re: #92 albusteve
G Beck, the gift that keeps on giving…or maybe like Bad Penny, keeps coming back?…just admit how much you love it
Part of me is utterly amused by his asshattery.
The other part just wishes he’d retire and stop ruining people’s lives.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:50:52am |
re: #92 albusteve
G Beck, the gift that keeps on giving…or maybe like Bad Penny, keeps coming back?…just admit how much you love it
I think it’s funny…
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:52:16am |
re: #95 Varek Raith
I’d be amused if it wasn’t for the number of people who take his shit seriously. My folks are a case in point they believe every word that comes out of his mouth despite any and all evidence to the contrary.
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blueraven Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:52:58am |
re: #96 Cannadian Club Akbar
I think it’s funny…
You know it might be funny, if he weren’t scaring the shit out of a lot of seniors who believe every word he spews.
Ive seen it in action…definitely not funny.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:53:12am |
consider some folks thrive in their self made controversy….Beck is not gonna melt down, not while he has so many people by the balls….it’s too lucrative
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RadicalModerate Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:53:54am |
re: #92 albusteve
G Beck, the gift that keeps on giving…or maybe like Bad Penny, keeps coming back?…just admit how much you love it
It would only be funny if there weren’t a number of violent “lone wolf” types who are taking his lunatic ravings to heart (see Kragar’s #71 upthread)
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albusteve Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:55:36am |
re: #98 blueraven
You know it might be funny, if he weren’t scaring the shit out of a lot of seniors who believe every word he spews.
Ive seen it in action…definitely not funny.
kinda like a preacher…I see him as a preacher, his show is his pulpit, and his viewers are his flock….people will believe most anything
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:55:54am |
Wait… if a 14 year old Soros is to be held responsible for these things does that mean, in Beck-logic, that we truly have a Nazi Pope?
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122 Year Old Obama Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:56:32am |
And my mum’s bought into this whole charade, hook, line, and sinker.
This is the same woman who told us research and fact checking was essential when we were growin’ up.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:56:47am |
re: #102 JasonA
Wait… if a 14 year old Soros is to be held responsible for these things does that mean, in Beck-logic, that we truly have a Nazi Pope?
A couple. Pope John Paul was a Nazi. Remember?
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:58:11am |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
A couple. Pope John Paul was a Nazi. Remember?
The nuns didn’t mention that part to me…
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blueraven Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:59:15am |
re: #101 albusteve
kinda like a preacher…I see him as a preacher, his show is his pulpit, and his viewers are his flock…people will believe most anything
I’ll buy that analogy…much like a tele-evangleist. Jimmy Swaggert, the PTL scandal and who was that other guy that got caught with his pants down (with another man)?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:59:16am |
re: #105 JasonA
The nuns didn’t mention that part to me…
They were busy cracking you knuckles with a ruler.
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darthstar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:59:21am |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
A couple. Pope John Paul was a Nazi. Remember?
Do you know who else was a Nazi? Hitler. No shit.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 10:59:50am |
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:03:40am |
re: #108 darthstar
Nazi schmatzi says Werner von Braun. /tom lehrer
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:04:02am |
it could be that what finally does beck in will be that cardinal sin of rabble rousers:
he might get boring
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:06:45am |
My radio just said the postal service only lost 8.5 billion last year!! WOOT!!
/
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:07:26am |
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:09:17am |
father coughlin speaks against the federal reserve
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:12:22am |
re: #114 engineer dog
father coughlin speaks against the federal reserve
[Video]
We just need to print more money. I will feel good about 5 dollar bread.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:15:39am |
re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar
We just need to print more money. I will feel good about 5 dollar bread.
At least the cost of gas hasn’t gone up in the last few weeks. Whew!!
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:18:10am |
re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar
We just need to print more money. I will feel good about 5 dollar bread.
so far from seeing inflation in the past two years, it’s been so low that some people are worried about deflation
a deflationary economy would really screw us up - it would turn the whole logic of our credit/mortgage based economy on its head
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:19:00am |
I’m almost finished with a page about Beck’s Soros conspiracy theory. I think it’ll be a good one. I’ll be done in about 10 minutes.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:22:42am |
re: #117 engineer dog
so far from seeing inflation in the past two years, it’s been so low that some people are worried about deflation
a deflationary economy would really screw us up - it would turn the whole logic of our credit/mortgage based economy on its head
Think hyperinflation.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:27:17am |
OT
Amazing what you can find on the internet somedays;
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:28:01am |
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3eff Jeff Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:29:24am |
re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
OT
Amazing what you can find on the internet somedays;
Wow. The phrase that pops immediately to mind is ‘manly men doing manly things manlyly’. Great find.
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sizzleRI Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:30:29am |
re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sometimes, just being alive in the age of the internet is enough to make my day. That is an amazing find!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:31:04am |
re: #121 engineer dog
but see very low inflation
If we keep printing money there will be a problem. The dollar is diving now.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:36:23am |
re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar
If we keep printing money there will be a problem. The dollar is diving now.
d’ya know, in the 1980s people like me were very concerned about how the reagan budgets were blowing out the deficit to record levels. in fact, one very tangible result of the 1980s budgets was that the percentage of the federal budget that needed to be devoted to debt service rose from its usual range of about 5 - 6% to about 10% for a couple of years around, IIRC, 1990 - 1992. however, it didn’t have much influence on inflation, which is conditioned more by a hot economy where goods are highly sought after and prices can rise as a result
as for “printing money” - the stock market “prints” much more imaginary money - that can disappear by the billions in the course of a bad afternoon - than the federal reserve can even manage
no, i don’t anticipate hyperinflation any time soon
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:38:48am |
re: #125 engineer dog
no, i don’t anticipate hyperinflation any time soon
Hyperventilation is still on the table though.
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3eff Jeff Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:39:33am |
re: #126 JasonA
Hyperventilation is still on the table though.
And now we are back to the original thread topic.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:43:59am |
re: #103 SteelPH
And my mum’s bought into this whole charade, hook, line, and sinker.
This is the same woman who told us research and fact checking was essential when we were growin’ up.
Disheartening, isn’t it? I have a family member whose reasonableness and rationality I’d always held in high regard… until Sarah Palin came along.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:45:35am |
re: #128 negativ
Disheartening, isn’t it? I have a family member whose reasonableness and rationality I’d always held in high regard… until Sarah Palin came along.
My mom’s demise came about due to sudden onset of ODS.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:47:08am |
re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
OT
Amazing what you can find on the internet somedays;
I’m a lumberjack and I’m OK!
//
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Mentis Fugit Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:50:33am |
re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar
If we keep printing money there will be a problem. The dollar is diving now.
The US dollar is at near parity with both the Canadian and Australian dollars now. If you ever start seeing the Flanian Pobble BeadNew Zealand dollar approach that status, you may start to panic.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:50:36am |
A question or two:
1) What the hell is the right-wing’s fasination with gold? From my foggy as hell memory, I know that the US currency was based on the gold standard (I think), but switched to silver.
2) Why did we drop the gold standard?
Thanks for help for this history-ignorant lizard :)
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:51:55am |
re: #77 Charles
They’ve obviously purchased ads for the “Glenn Beck” keyword.
Here’s the galling thing. All the while Beck’s been pushing gold, all the while he’s been saying that gold may well go up in price,…
it’s actually gone up.
Now is not the best time to make his assertion, that gold is slated to rise, the centerpiece of the case against him.
A man may be quite an ass, yet good at some things. Bobby Fischer comes to mind. It’s just possible that gold really will reach stratospheric prices, and that Beck is a better chess player at the game of gold prices than you or I.
If I want to get after Fischer for his anti-semitic rants, (well, he’s dead, but anyhow) I don’t kibitz his chess and predict, mid-game, that he’s going to lose.
Gold prices aren’t like chess and Beck doesn’t have, no one will ever have, a track record of thousands of years, to be the counterpart of a track record of thousands of games, to where we can know just how good he really is at this game. But it’s possible that he’s as good at gold speculation as Soros is at currency speculation. For instance.
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:57:38am |
That Beck rant was just the tonic to increase falling viewership.
Call me a cynic but everything he does is very calculated.
Not unlike his alter ego, George Soros. Where one goes, the other can’t be far behind.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:59:10am |
re: #133 lostlakehiker
A man may be quite an ass, yet good at some things. Bobby Fischer comes to mind. It’s just possible that gold really will reach stratospheric prices, and that Beck is a better chess player at the game of gold prices than you or I.
That bears no resemblance to chess.
Drooling morons down the street who have been sniffing after Ron Paul’s newsletter for decades are also convinced that gold will rise forever.
Are they also all Bobby Fischers?
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 11:59:37am |
re: #134 researchok
It is really really fucking weird to respond to an antisemitic attack on Soros with an allegation that Soros is just as bad as Beck is.
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:02:37pm |
re: #136 Obdicut
It is really really fucking weird to respond to an antisemitic attack on Soros with an allegation that Soros is just as bad as Beck is.
You missed my point. Beck’s response was calculated, in my opinion.
The Soros interview was equally calculated.
That Beck assigned a premium value to Soros drivel is a deliberate misrepresentation on his part.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:03:38pm |
re: #132 commadore183
A question or two:
1) What the hell is the right-wing’s fasination with gold? From my foggy as hell memory, I know that the US currency was based on the gold standard (I think), but switched to silver.2) Why did we drop the gold standard?
Thanks for help for this history-ignorant lizard :)
Well, the main reason for any country abandoning the gold standard is usually to allow the printing of money in response to changing financial situations. This can in some cases be a bad thing (inflation) but in other cases it is a good thing (avoiding deflation).
Paul Krugman’s story about the Washington babysitting club is a neat explanation of how printing money is sometimes a good way of getting an economy moving (a very brief summary is that members of the babysitting club would babysit each others’ kids in exchange for tokens that could then be redeemed for reciprocal sitting services within the club, but it turned out that people were hoarding the tokens and so no-one was able to go out, hence they printed some extra tokens to prevent the hoarding).
As always, there is no one right answer though.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:04:03pm |
re: #137 researchok
You called Soros Beck’s alter-ego.
That’s an incredibly bizarre thing to say.
Beyond bizarre.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:05:13pm |
re: #139 Obdicut
You called Soros Beck’s alter-ego.
That’s an incredibly bizarre thing to say.
Beyond bizarre.
That Soros, always pulling the strings, so calculating!
///
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:06:56pm |
re: #139 Obdicut
You called Soros Beck’s alter-ego.
That’s an incredibly bizarre thing to say.
Beyond bizarre.
Not in the literal sense.
And even if I were being literal, I do maintain I am somewhat qualified to make that observation from afar.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:08:14pm |
the economics of inflation and deflation are interesting to consider
our credit heavy economy is based on a universe of continuous moderate inflation. this encourages borrowing since the dollars you pay back with should be worth less than the dollars that you borrow
this is because most debt contracts are based on a fixed rate of debt and payments. in an inflationary universe, all fixed debt service payments will become effectively cheaper over time
now, consider a hyperinflationary universe: let’s say all prices go up by a factor of ten. historically, when this happens, wages have to catch up, since if nobody can afford to buy anything, capitalists can’t make any money. so, pretty soon my salary goes up by a factor of ten as well. but my mortgage contract is at a fixed rate! yow, my mortgage is so cheap now! my bank isn’t concerned, because now i owe even less relative to the new value of my house. of course, my savings aren’t worth much anymore
now consider a deflationary universe: the dollar is worth more and more. however, compared to the world economy, probably not, since when the u.s. sneezes, the rest of the world catches cold. but, my mortgage becomes more and more expensive. hey! WTF??? the assessed value of my house might even go down and i might end up underwater!!! then the bank might get nervous and want me to pay off. but wait! on the other hand, my savings become more and more valuable without me doing a thing.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:08:42pm |
re: #141 researchok
Not in the literal sense.
And even if I were being literal, I do maintain I am somewhat qualified to make that observation from afar.
There’s no ‘literal sense’ of being someone’s alter-ego.
Whatever, dude. If you think you’re ‘qualified’ to say that the guy making the incredibly stupid virulent antisemitic attack, the same guy who regularly throws up antisemitic works approvingly, the same guy who’s been spouting insanity forever while not doing a damn bit of good in the world, is the same as the holocaust survivor who’s been promoting democrats in Eastern Europe since before the fall of the Soviet union, then have at it.
It’s bullshit.
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Romantic Heretic Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:09:00pm |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
A couple. Pope John Paul was a Nazi. Remember?
Hell, the head of the Borgia family was Pope. So was a a Medici.
I’m sure Hell is full of people who were Pope.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:09:11pm |
re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar
We just need to print more money. I will feel good about 5 dollar bread.
Image: 662px-Inflationmedal.jpg
“On 1 Nov 1923
1 pound of bread cost 3 billion
1 pound of meat cost 36 billion
1 glass of beer cost 4 billion”
That’s either a medal commemorating hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic, or somebody shops at Safeway.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:09:32pm |
re: #143 Obdicut
And by that I don’t mean that Soros is all good and holy. I don’t like anyone with shitloads of money mucking around in a democracy, nor do I like a lot of the ways that Soros made his money.
But he’s so far above a person like Beck any sort of comparison is odious, ridiculous, and fatuous.
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:11:25pm |
re: #143 Obdicut
There’s no ‘literal sense’ of being someone’s alter-ego.
Whatever, dude. If you think you’re ‘qualified’ to say that the guy making the incredibly stupid virulent antisemitic attack, the same guy who regularly throws up antisemitic works approvingly, the same guy who’s been spouting insanity forever while not doing a damn bit of good in the world, is the same as the holocaust survivor who’s been promoting democrats in Eastern Europe since before the fall of the Soviet union, then have at it.
It’s bullshit.
I am qualified.
And don’t put words into my mouth or misrepresent what I have said.
Please.
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efuseakay Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:13:23pm |
He must know he’s about to get busted in some child porn ring or something. This is his CYA move. Instead of taking responsibility, blame… SOROS!!!!
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:14:18pm |
re: #147 researchok
I am qualified.
And don’t put words into my mouth or misrepresent what I have said.
Please.
Appealing to your own authority is really stupid. Especially in a case like this; it simply makes me lose respect for any further claims you’re going to make to your own authority.
What you said:
Not unlike his alter ego, George Soros. Where one goes, the other can’t be far behind.
Do you think it is a true statement that where Beck goes, Soros can’t be far behind? What do you mean by that?
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Velvet Hammer Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:15:42pm |
Wow, you people really don’t get it do you? So you can attack the messenger all you want but what part of what he’s saying can you refute? Those of you tossing out the most vile and vitriol against this man please tell me what facts you have to repudiate his arguments or assassinate his character.
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:16:46pm |
re: #149 Obdicut
Appealing to your own authority is really stupid. Especially in a case like this; it simply makes me lose respect for any further claims you’re going to make to your own authority.
What you said:
Do you think it is a true statement that where Beck goes, Soros can’t be far behind? What do you mean by that?
DUH- Because Bedk will always drag him.
In Beck’s world, Soros in the ever handy bogeyman and anri Christ.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:16:56pm |
re: #150 Velvet Hammer
Easy one: He edited Soros’s statement on the world voting to make it appear as the opposite of what he said.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:17:07pm |
re: #150 Velvet Hammer
Wow, you people really don’t get it do you?
A first post guaranteed to get a response. Pass the popcorn.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:17:56pm |
If invited to dine with Beck or Soros I might choose to fast.
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Velvet Hammer Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:18:28pm |
re: #146 Obdicut
No, Soros is an evil, evil human being. I’ve thought so even before Beck started laying out the case against him. All you have to do his read his books, listen to the interviews he’s given, and most importantly…follow the money.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:18:54pm |
re: #150 Velvet Hammer
tell me what facts you have to repudiate his arguments or assassinate his character.
tell me, is beck really a paranoid psychotic or does he just impersonate one?
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:19:02pm |
re: #153 DaddyG
Anyway, it’s “refudiate”. Some people just don’t listen.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:20:54pm |
I always find “You people just don’t get it” is one of the less effective introductions along with F-U and echo chamber.
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3eff Jeff Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:21:24pm |
re: #151 researchok
DUH- Because Bedk will always drag him.
In Beck’s world, Soros in the ever handy bogeyman and anri Christ.
So you’ve been talking about George Soros the figment of Beck’s paranoid delusions this whole time, not George Soros, billionaire and public figure.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:21:35pm |
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:23:07pm |
re: #161 Obdicut
Well, you would, wouldn’t you. You just don’t get it.
//
F-U (and I mean that in the most respectful way possible). //
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:23:50pm |
re: #160 3eff Jeff
So you’ve been talking about George Soros the figment of Beck’s paranoid delusions this whole time, not George Soros, billionaire and public figure.
the right wing has spent so much time over the years inventing imaginary ‘liberals’ and other enemies to oppose - it would be a shame to deny them the amusement they get from the hobby
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3eff Jeff Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:24:24pm |
re: #159 DaddyG
I always find “You people just don’t get it” is one of the less effective introductions along with F-U and echo chamber.
Some times F-U works. People went to GG Allin shows…
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:25:50pm |
I don’t appreciate Soros manipulation of currencies and I consider him a bottom feeder taking advantage of awful circumstances.
On the other hand he’s not the anti-Christ and he’s no worse than the Hunt Brothers or other speculators willing to manipulate economies for their own profit. What puzzles me is how the left has such a close political relationship with someone who is in many ways the epitome of the “greedy capitalist”.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:26:48pm |
re: #156 Velvet Hammer
No, Soros is an evil, evil human being
part of the continuing controversy over whether liberals are evil, evil or evil, evil, evil
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:26:50pm |
re: #165 DaddyG
Maybe because ‘the left’ doesn’t actually have a damn thing against capitalism, beyond wanting it to be regulated, and realizing that it’s not an inherently moral system.
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:27:09pm |
re: #160 3eff Jeff
So you’ve been talking about George Soros the figment of Beck’s paranoid delusions this whole time, not George Soros, billionaire and public figure.
Yes.
That was teh whole point.
Beck’s obsession with Soros has taken on a life of it’s own.
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iossarian Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:28:42pm |
re: #165 DaddyG
The thing about Soros (and Buffett) for me is, if you’re going to have a system that allows canny people to make tons of money without doing any “real” work, I’d rather that the people taking advantage of it were also people who then spend their fortunes advocating for a fairer system.
If they use the money to further entrench their own advantage then you, the peon, are doubly screwed.
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DaddyG Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:29:39pm |
re: #167 Obdicut Fair enough. Depends on where you define the boundary between left and far left, but as a conservative who isn’t a “conservative” and doesn’t believe most conservatives are. I get it.
Get it?
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:29:54pm |
i wonder what effect beck’s vendetta against soros is supposed to have beyond keeping his ratings up?
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:31:16pm |
re: #168 researchok
Yes.
That was teh whole point.
Beck’s obsession with Soros has taken on a life of it’s own.
Except that that’s not what ‘alter-ego’ means, in any way. You can’t use alter-ego to describe someone’s obsession with another real human being. An alter-ego is a severe personality change for one individual, so severe that it functions as another personality.
You’re just using the term completely wrong, if that’s what you meant.
However, that explanation doesn’t actually jibe with your first use of it:
Call me a cynic but everything he does is very calculated.
Not unlike his alter ego, George Soros. Where one goes, the other can’t be far behind.
You were saying his alter-ego, George Soros, was also very calculated.
And when asked to explain, you said:
You missed my point. Beck’s response was calculated, in my opinion.The Soros interview was equally calculated.
That Beck assigned a premium value to Soros drivel is a deliberate misrepresentation on his part.
Where you were talking about Soros’s actual interview, and the actual, real human being Soros.
If you did simply mean that Beck has a distorted view of Soros, you chose the worst possible way of expressing that, since what you said was that Soros was Beck’s alter-ego— meaning that Soros and Beck were the same person, expressing different personalities.
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researchok Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:33:52pm |
re: #172 Obdicut
Except that that’s not what ‘alter-ego’ means, in any way. You can’t use alter-ego to describe someone’s obsession with another real human being. An alter-ego is a severe personality change for one individual, so severe that it functions as another personality.
You’re just using the term completely wrong, if that’s what you meant.
However, that explanation doesn’t actually jibe with your first use of it:
You were saying his alter-ego, George Soros, was also very calculated.
And when asked to explain, you said:
Where you were talking about Soros’s actual interview, and the actual, real human being Soros.
If you did simply mean that Beck has a distorted view of Soros, you chose the worst possible way of expressing that, since what you said was that Soros was Beck’s alter-ego— meaning that Soros and Beck were the same person, expressing different personalities.
Thank you for clarifying what it was I wanted to say.
/
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:33:57pm |
re: #150 Velvet Hammer
Wow, you people really don’t get it do you? So you can attack the messenger all you want but what part of what he’s saying can you refute? Those of you tossing out the most vile and vitriol against this man please tell me what facts you have to repudiate his arguments or assassinate his character.
There’s one that is certain, and easy to follow using a very simple metric:
Birchers suck. People who promote the Birchers and their crazy conspiracy theories suck. Glenn Beck promotes the Birchers and their conspiracy theories. Ipso facto, Glenn Beck sucks.
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Interesting Times Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:34:33pm |
re: #171 engineer dog
i wonder what effect beck’s vendetta against soros is supposed to have beyond keeping his ratings up?
Distract people from the actual evil billionaires who are giving them the shaft:
To put it in the simplest terms possible, the Koch brothers promote AGW denial and continued oil dependence while Soros doesn’t. That, by default, makes Soros morally superior.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:35:02pm |
re: #170 DaddyG
the boundary between left and far left
left: thinks the government can be used to accomplish things that are helpful to society
far left: the above, but with recycled toilet paper and whole wheat croissants
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sizzleRI Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:35:17pm |
re: #167 Obdicut
Thank you Thank you Thank you! It is almost like the “left” is not actually composed of caricatures based on 19 year-old street theater protesters.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:36:47pm |
re: #173 researchok
Thank you for clarifying what it was I wanted to say.
/
What you were saying changed halfway through you saying it, so there’s no one version that satisfies, actually.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:40:06pm |
re: #175 publicityStunted
Distract people from the actual evil billionaires who are giving them the shaft
repeated for large truth
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General Nimrod Bodfish Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:41:16pm |
re: #138 iossarian
Well, the main reason for any country abandoning the gold standard is usually to allow the printing of money in response to changing financial situations. This can in some cases be a bad thing (inflation) but in other cases it is a good thing (avoiding deflation).
Paul Krugman’s story about the Washington babysitting club is a neat explanation of how printing money is sometimes a good way of getting an economy moving (a very brief summary is that members of the babysitting club would babysit each others’ kids in exchange for tokens that could then be redeemed for reciprocal sitting services within the club, but it turned out that people were hoarding the tokens and so no-one was able to go out, hence they printed some extra tokens to prevent the hoarding).
As always, there is no one right answer though.
So, in layman’s terms, the gold standard doesn’t have the flexibility that other standards have? Gonna try to read up a bit on it, but I don’t think I can understand a lot of it, but I’ll try.
So, why does Beck and Co. try to pawn off gold? (Or maybe I missed it).
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AntonSirius Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:49:08pm |
re: #180 commadore183
So, why does Beck and Co. try to pawn off gold? (Or maybe I missed it).
It’s part of the same nostalgia fetish that has his audience longing for the days before the New Deal (or Emancipation, depending on who’s doing the fetishizing.)
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Kragar Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:50:07pm |
re: #180 commadore183
So, in layman’s terms, the gold standard doesn’t have the flexibility that other standards have? Gonna try to read up a bit on it, but I don’t think I can understand a lot of it, but I’ll try.
So, why does Beck and Co. try to pawn off gold? (Or maybe I missed it).
Because suckers buy off on it and they get a cut.
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subsailor68 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 12:56:47pm |
re: #180 commadore183
So, in layman’s terms, the gold standard doesn’t have the flexibility that other standards have? Gonna try to read up a bit on it, but I don’t think I can understand a lot of it, but I’ll try.
So, why does Beck and Co. try to pawn off gold? (Or maybe I missed it).
I’d need to find the link again, and don’t have a lot of time now (but you could probably find it fairly easily in your research).
You’re on track when you say the gold standard doesn’t have the flexibility of other standards, in that gold is a finite resource. That is, we know how much gold is in circulation and reserves, and how much has been identified in mines, but not yet mined. The article I wish I could find noted that the total value in dollars of all the gold identified came to about 1/3 of the U.S. GDP for the year the article was written (maybe two or three years ago?). The point was that the U.S. GDP alone would need to be constricted by 2/3’s if we shifted to the gold standard. Economic nightmare.
As to why Beck et. al. are pushing gold right now - when folks get nervous they tend to look for “safe” investments, and believe gold to be one of those. Greater demand, higher prices - good for sellers. But, a number of economists are beginning to worry that gold could be the next bubble. That is, a bunch of folks buying in at the top and then watching gold prices implode.
(Caveat: I’m not an economist, nor am I an expert on any of this - just remembering as best I can the articles I read. If I get some time, I’ll try to find them for ya.)
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Lidane Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:00:22pm |
re: #5 Varek Raith
WTF would even prompt him to say that?
Ratings, of course. Also, convincing even more rubes and idiots out there that Da Jooz really are out to get them, since one is after Glenn himself.
This man is insane.
And making a hell of a living peddling his insanity to morons.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:14:30pm |
re: #180 commadore183
So, why does Beck and Co. try to pawn off gold?
it’s a way for gold dealers to pump the value of their product and make money off of the bubble
a lot of hustlers are out there predicting massive inflation in the next six months (of course, this six month period moves along from year to year), and most of them just happen to have the website of a company that sells gold - a safe investment for hyperinflationary times! -right at hand for your convenience
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webevintage Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:38:41pm |
Saying “I’m not into child pron” means you probably have some on your computer…
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HappyWarrior Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:48:27pm |
Can someone please tell me honestly what Glenn Beck’s appeal is? I’ve never seen anyone so whiny, so full of themselves, and with a persecution complex to boot. Someone for the love of God just tell this douchebag to get the hell over himself. Seriously, Glenn you act like you’re in Nazi Germany. You’ve been acting like the Obama Administration is gonna get you yet here you are still spouting off this bullshit and not in some camp. God I hate this asshole for the fear he spreads.
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MisterCookie Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1:53:15pm |
Great, Glenn. Now I have no idea what to get you for Christmas. Not that there will be a Christmas, if the imaginary socialists in Beck’s head have their way.
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:22:22pm |
re: #132 commadore183
A question or two:
1) What the hell is the right-wing’s fasination with gold? From my foggy as hell memory, I know that the US currency was based on the gold standard (I think), but switched to silver.2) Why did we drop the gold standard?
Thanks for help for this history-ignorant lizard :)
We didn’t switch to silver. We switched from gold to fiat during the civil war, back to gold after the civil war [not instantly, but we got there], and then to fiat, de facto during Roosevelt’s first term, de jure, during Nixon’s term.
In 1933, the government demanded, and with the force of law behind it, received, essentially all privately held gold held as wealth, buying the gold at a price it named, of around $20 per ounce.
Gold for jewelry, a small amount of gold coin, and gold held by dentists etc. for use in a trade or profession, was exempt.
Once gold coins were no longer “money”, but “contraband”, the U.S. was for practical purposes not on a gold standard. We maintained the fiction that we were for quite some time afterward, dropping it decades later. In the interim, the official price of gold was $35 per ounce, but the U.S. was unwilling and unable to honor all requests for one ounce of gold in exchange for $35 of paper.
We went off the gold standard, de jure as well as de facto, in 1971. In 1974, it was again made legal to hold gold for wealth purposes. Why gold bugs think the government will not again demand such gold, on pain of prison, be sold at a price the government names, beats me. There is, after all, precedent.
For a time, some U.S. money was backed by silver. Silver certificates circulated as late as the 1960s. Mostly $1 and $5 bills, they carried the promise that the government would exchange any bill for 1 dollar in silver (5 dollars in silver). Everyone understood that this meant one silver dollar, of thus and so a purity and mass. But the promise was welshed on, when inflation carried the value of the dollar too low to justify such an exchange. Instead, the government changed the meaning of its pledge to a meaningless meaning: it would give you an amount of silver equivalent, at market prices, to the number of silver certificates you brought it. This silliness ended by and by. Today’s dollar is a fiat dollar. Its only value is its utility as a means of exchange, and its reputation. A reputation is earned by a history of the issuing government being slow to issue more, and then, only because the supply of real goods and services has increased in like measure.
This reputation is in danger nowadays, both because of the Carter era inflation, and now, because of several moves by the Fed issuing more dollars. Hence, the runup in the price of gold.
The right wing sees gold as a means by which the bourgeoisie can secure its wealth against confiscation through inflation. The hope is chimerical; if the government wants to water down the value of the dollar, everyone holding dollars will be left holding waste paper, but everyone in the U.S. who holds gold will* be told to exchange it for that waste paper.
*If history repeats itself.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:40:18pm |
re: #175 publicityStunted
Distract people from the actual evil billionaires who are giving them the shaft:
To put it in the simplest terms possible, the Koch brothers promote AGW denial and continued oil dependence while Soros doesn’t. That, by default, makes Soros morally superior.
They are, however, more or less invisible, while Soros is the source of many vivid fever nightmares for folks who see him as the embodiment of Saul Alinsky’s theory, abroad in the world with a shitload of money.
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Quant Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:50:06pm |
re: #180 commadore183
So, in layman’s terms, the gold standard doesn’t have the flexibility that other standards have? Gonna try to read up a bit on it, but I don’t think I can understand a lot of it, but I’ll try.
So, why does Beck and Co. try to pawn off gold? (Or maybe I missed it).
Martin Wolf has an excellent post on the whether the world could go back to a gold standard that you might find interesting. He discusses, amongst other things, a mismatch similar to the one mentioned by subsailor68 in #183 below.
The biggest transition problem is the mismatch between the value of official gold holdings and the size of the monetary system. The value of gold held by central banks is apparently about $1,300bn, while global deposits of the banking system were about $61,000bn in 2008, according to the McKinsey Global Institute. To survive the slightest financial panic, the ratio of gold to bank money would need to be perhaps an order of magnitude higher.
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:27:08pm |
re: #135 Obdicut
That bears no resemblance to chess.
Drooling morons down the street who have been sniffing after Ron Paul’s newsletter for decades are also convinced that gold will rise forever.
Are they also all Bobby Fischers?
First gold has to not rise like that. Here you have a man who’s told people buy gold, and you didn’t and I didn’t and some of them did, and we didn’t get rich and some of them did. And they’re the fools? Maybe in many ways, yes they are. But I’m not about to insist that I know more about gold than they do when they’re winning and I’m standing on the sidelines shaking my head. Perhaps I don’t know everything about everything and there’s reasons I haven’t understood why gold will go up up up.
If you know better, you will get rich handily. You will short gold and make a killing. Why argue? Just short it.
Or talk about something else, like how Beck is putting together a really nasty, stomach-churningly sicko anti-semitic tirade-a-thon.
It’s galling but bearable if he makes a killing in gold. This other cannot go unopposed.
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Decider Fri, Nov 12, 2010 4:48:03pm |
What about that girl Beck raped and murdered in 1990? Just asking questions….
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JEA62 Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:24:59pm |
…which leads me to believe he’s setting up a cover if he IS involved in child porn. Now we know why he’s been after Soros - it’s actually to protect his own sorry ass.
It won’t be child porn; it will be something else that will come out.
And Beck will claim he’s being railroaded, no matter how ironclad the evidence against him is. And his “Beck Zombies” are stupid enough to believe it.
After all they’ve believed all his other BS.
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