It looks like the Two Apples have finally achieved something that’s been a thorny problem for many years — according to the Wall Street Journal’s Ethan Smith, they’ve reached an agreement to sell the Beatles catalog through iTunes.
Apple Computers and Apple Records, together at last. And just in time for Christmas.
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freetoken Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:12:14pm |
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Charles Johnson Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:14:11pm |
The Apple-Apple conflict has been pretty serious for years - the original Macs were prohibited from including a MIDI port because of legal agreements not to impinge on Apple Records' music business. They must have spent billions on their law firms by now.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:17:52pm |
re: #2 Charles
The Apple-Apple conflict has been pretty serious for years - the original Macs were prohibited from including a MIDI port because of legal agreements not to impinge on Apple Records' music business. They must have spent billions on their law firms by now.
I am certain that the passing of Micheal Jackson made this possible.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:18:11pm |
Little darling
The smiles returning to the faces
Little darling
It seems like years since its been here
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:18:44pm |
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
I am certain that the passing of Micheal Jackson made this possible.
exactly what I was wondering...but how?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:18:53pm |
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
I am certain that the passing of Micheal Jackson made this possible.
How do you figure?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:20:42pm |
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
I am certain that the passing of Micheal Jackson made this possible.
re: #5 albusteve
exactly what I was wondering...but how?
re: #6 Dark_Falcon
How do you figure?
Totally wondering about this. His estate now owns the catalog. Wonder how that plays out.
And when he bought the catalog it was probably his smartest move and the one that pissed me off.
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Digital Display Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:22:55pm |
Am I the only soul in the world that doesn't have every Beatles song burned and saved to a hard drive? Heck I even have the original out take of No reply..( My favorite Beatles song)
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:23:34pm |
I already have (pirated) digital copies of every album they ever made, plus a copy of every compilation released since they quit producing albums. (Same thing for the "Who" 29 albums (+ some singles) and counting, as they still keep releaseing more re-hashes...)
Anyway...I really don't care, I had most of this stuff on vinyl once upon a time before Florida flooding and multi-state moves destroyed them. I bought the right to own a copy of the songs so I don't feel the least bit guilty about downloading them sans payment now.
/not a pirate, just a fan who doesn't want to have to pay five times for the same song. :(
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:23:49pm |
re: #6 Dark_Falcon
How do you figure?
wouldn't Sony have their say if indeed Jackson's estate was involved?...aren't they his partner?....I do not fully understand ownership and rights and profits in this goddawfull business....the player/author usually gets screwed it seems
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engineer cat Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:24:14pm |
re: #8 HoosierHoops
Am I the only soul in the world that doesn't have every Beatles song burned and saved to a hard drive? Heck I even have the original out take of No reply..( My favorite Beatles song)
better than that, i have them burned on the inside of my skull
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:24:39pm |
re: #8 HoosierHoops
Am I the only soul in the world that doesn't have every Beatles song burned and saved to a hard drive? Heck I even have the original out take of No reply..( My favorite Beatles song)
this happened once before....
howdy
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:25:09pm |
re: #6 Dark_Falcon
How do you figure?
Someone else is now running the estate and selling it off to make profits.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:25:16pm |
re: #8 HoosierHoops
Am I the only soul in the world that doesn't have every Beatles song burned and saved to a hard drive? Heck I even have the original out take of No reply..( My favorite Beatles song)
I don't either. and i don't think that i could name a favorite song if you put a hand cannon to my head...i have a different favorite every day...
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Digital Display Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:25:56pm |
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:26:04pm |
re: #11 engineer dog
better than that, i have them burned on the inside of my skull
trivia...
who was Prudence?
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dr. luba Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:26:06pm |
Seriously, does anyone really care any more? True fans already have all the Beatles tunes. Kids and young folks don't really care, if the ones I know are any indication.
Too little too late.
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:26:26pm |
re: #8 HoosierHoops
Am I the only soul in the world that doesn't have every Beatles song burned and saved to a hard drive? Heck I even have the original out take of No reply..( My favorite Beatles song)
I can do better than that - I'm the only soul in the world that doesn't like the beatles.
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brookly red Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:27:10pm |
re: #8 HoosierHoops
Am I the only soul in the world that doesn't have every Beatles song burned and saved to a hard drive? Heck I even have the original out take of No reply..( My favorite Beatles song)
I dare you to ask any 20 something to name 2 Beatles songs...
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bratwurst Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:28:05pm |
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bratwurst Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:28:37pm |
re: #19 brookly red
I dare you to ask any 20 something to name 2 Beatles songs...
Ever heard of "Rock Band", gramps?
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:29:42pm |
re: #17 dr. luba
Seriously, does anyone really care any more? True fans already have all the Beatles tunes. Kids and young folks don't really care, if the ones I know are any indication.
Too little too late.
you do what you can...my kids, 27 and 25 are well into the Beatles...I suppose the next gen will be one step removed and that will be that...done, off to the shelf
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Irenicum Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:29:46pm |
re: #19 brookly red
Actually, a lot of my much younger friends love many Beatles songs. Good stuff just lasts. They have staying power.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:30:27pm |
re: #18 cliffster
I can do better than that - I'm the only soul in the world that doesn't like the beatles.
no.
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brookly red Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:30:33pm |
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:30:36pm |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:31:05pm |
re: #18 cliffster
I can do better than that - I'm the only soul in the world that doesn't like the beatles.
must...not...downding...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:31:37pm |
re: #22 albusteve
you do what you can...my kids, 27 and 25 are well into the Beatles...I suppose the next gen will be one step removed and that will be that...done, off to the shelf
My friends are major Beatles fans. Therefore their kids, age 7 & 10 are same. They paid big bucks to see the opening of "Love" in Las Vegas, with the kiddos.
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engineer cat Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:31:45pm |
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:31:53pm |
re: #24 Stanley Sea
no.
yes, I hate to say, but it's true. not like I haven't tried, either. just doesn't click with me. it's not you, beatles... it's me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:31:58pm |
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Digital Display Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:32:27pm |
re: #22 albusteve
you do what you can...my kids, 27 and 25 are well into the Beatles...I suppose the next gen will be one step removed and that will be that...done, off to the shelf
Jordan loves Peter Frampton...By the 80's I hated him...
Who knew? dang kids
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brookly red Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:33:09pm |
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:34:03pm |
re: #28 Stanley Sea
My friends are major Beatles fans. Therefore their kids, age 7 & 10 are same. They paid big bucks to see the opening of "Love" in Las Vegas, with the kiddos.
cool...amazing how kids are influenced if they dig you as a parent...I was vastly fortunate, considering all my shortcomings...my kids like all sorts of vintage stuff
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bratwurst Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:34:24pm |
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:36:25pm |
re: #32 HoosierHoops
Jordan loves Peter Frampton...By the 80's I hated him...
Who knew? dang kids
which reminds me...
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:37:43pm |
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:38:15pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:39:25pm |
Fox News Turns Obama's Kid Book Into Anti-American War Epic
Fox News republished a USA Today article called "Obama Shares Dreams for His Kids in Book About 13 Americans." Fox News' headline? "Obama Praises Indian Chief Who Killed U.S. General."
/not the Onion
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:39:33pm |
I'm not deep sometimes in music. Rubber Soul is my fav.
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engineer cat Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:40:43pm |
i know!
which chuck berry song did they get the phrase "ol' flattop" from?
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Charles Johnson Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:42:12pm |
re: #35 bratwurst
What song was the source of Lennon's feud with Todd Rundgren?
I believe it was "Rock and Roll Pussy."
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bratwurst Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:42:28pm |
re: #38 albusteve
don't know
Todd's "Rock and Roll Pussy" from "A Wizard, A True Star", 1973:
Beat it, beat it, beat your guitar
Smash it, smash it, 'til it sees stars
Rip it, rip it, rip it to shreds
Throw down your axe and then jump into bed
Get up, get up, get up and see
Revolution revolution on the TV
Will you, will you, get your nails dirty?
Or are you only just a rock and roll pussy?
Rundgren was giving a lot of interviews at this time describing (accurately) Lennon's increasingly obnoxious public behavior and how it was tarnishing his image. Lennon replied in the pages of Melody Maker in 1974:
AN OPENED LETTUCE TO SODD RUNTLESTUNTLE. (from dr. winston o'boogie)
Couldn't resist adding a few "islands of truth" of my own, in answer to Turd
Runtgreen's howl of hate (pain.)Dear Todd,
I like you, and some of your work, including "I Saw The Light", which is not
unlike "There's A Place" (Beatles), melody wise.1) I have never claimed to be a revolutionary. But I am allowed to sing about
anything I want! Right?2) I never hit a waitress in the Troubador, I did act like an ass, I was too
drunk. So shoot me!3) I guess we're all looking for attention Rodd, do you really think I don't
know how to get it, without "revolution?" I could dye my hair green and pink
for a start!4) I don't represent anyone but my SELF. It sounds like I represented
something to you, or you wouldn't be so violent towards me. (Your dad
perhaps?)5) Yes Dodd, violence comes in mysterious ways it's wonders to perform,
including verbal. But you'd know that kind of mind game, wouldn't you? Of
course you would.6) So the Nazz use to do "like heavy rock" then SUDDENLY a "light pretty
ballad". How original!7) Which gets me to the Beatles, "who had no other style than being the
Beatles"!! That covers a lot of style man, including your own, TO DATE.....
Yes Godd, the one thing those Beatles did was to affect PEOPLES' MINDS. Maybe
you need another fix? Somebody played me your rock and roll pussy song, but I
never noticed anything. i think that the real reason you're mad at me is
cause I didn't know who you were at the Rainbow (L.A.) Remember that time you
came in with Wolfman Jack? When I found out later, I was cursing cause I
wanted to tell you how good you were. (I'd heard you on the radio.)Anyway, However much you hurt me darling; I'll always love you,
J. L.
30th Sept. 1974
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:43:18pm |
re: #40 Killgore Trout
Fox News Turns Obama's Kid Book Into Anti-American War Epic
/not the Onion
Sitting Bulls life is fairly well documented and it's highly doubtful he ever killed anybody, let alone a USA general...I call sittingbull shit
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:43:30pm |
re: #40 Killgore Trout
Fox News Turns Obama's Kid Book Into Anti-American War Epic
/not the Onion
More fool them. Yes, Sitting Bull's warriors killed George Custer. But it must not be forgotten that it was Custer and the US Cavalry, not the Sioux and Cheyenne who were the aggressors. And Custer was killed in battle, not as the result of a terrorist act.
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engineer cat Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:43:53pm |
"here come ol' flattop - he was grooving up with me"
chuck berry - you can't catch me, 1955
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:44:18pm |
re: #44 bratwurst
holy shit. Never knew about it.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:46:11pm |
Usually I don't...err..."pirate" audio, the RIAA has been nasty until quite recently about that sort of thing. However, all that being said, I am still currently on the hunt for old comedy albums. I'm collecting and saving them digitally before they disappear, I grew up listening to stuff like "The buttondown mind of Bob Newhart" and I want to try to pass them on to the next generation.
I put a fairly popular torrent file out there on the public trackers a while ago that has 69 comedy albums in it as separate files. Not one of them was released after Jan. 1980. If you want the first three Smothers Brothers albums it is the only way to get them that I know of...
/Arrr, I be Pirate Matey! (not really)
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:46:32pm |
re: #46 Dark_Falcon
More fool them. Yes, Sitting Bull's warriors killed George Custer. But it must not be forgotten that it was Custer and the US Cavalry, not the Sioux and Cheyenne who were the aggressors. And Custer was killed in battle, not as the result of a terrorist act.
Crazy Horse and his posse killed Custer, most likely
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:48:05pm |
Living in LA gave me the chance to learn certain things about certain situations. Movies, music, entertainment... And it made me very conservative in this instance. Because of my musician/actor/writer/photographer friends.
When we consider the price we paid back when of old albums, singles, tapes, vinyl... It was all known to be impermanent media. It all wears out. So the natural expectation is we would buy the music more than once. Once for the home, once again for the car maybe. Or use the vinyl to make a tape. All impermanent.
Setting aside piracy, digital means forever. For $.99 a song. We can just migrate from machine to machine now. That has a big impact on revenues. And Artists keep getting screwed. The content creator (musician/writer etc) should do far better than the model we have now.
With apologies to friends and acquaintances that have movies and music unpaid. Sorry dude, it ain't right.
Pirated music is stolen music. Bootleg movies are stolen property. Pay up your $.99
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:51:42pm |
Is anyone into Bruce Springsteen a lot? I preface it with that because it's long, but damn worth the moment spent to read it.
Really good blog post forwarded via Sully today.
Verrrry good read.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:51:47pm |
re: #52 albusteve
Crazy Horse and his posse killed Custer, most likely
[Link: www.smithsonianmag.com...]
"Accounts of the 1876 battle have focused on Custer's ill-fated cavalry. But a new book offers a take from the Indian's point of view
* By Thomas Powers
* Photographs by Aaron Huey
* Smithsonian magazine, November 2010"
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:52:37pm |
re: #53 Rightwingconspirator
Living in LA gave me the chance to learn certain things about certain situations. Movies, music, entertainment... And it made me very conservative in this instance. Because of my musician/actor/writer/photographer friends.
When we consider the price we paid back when of old albums, singles, tapes, vinyl... It was all known to be impermanent media. It all wears out. So the natural expectation is we would buy the music more than once. Once for the home, once again for the car maybe. Or use the vinyl to make a tape. All impermanent.
Setting aside piracy, digital means forever. For $.99 a song. We can just migrate from machine to machine now. That has a big impact on revenues. And Artists keep getting screwed. The content creator (musician/writer etc) should do far better than the model we have now.
With apologies to friends and acquaintances that have movies and music unpaid. Sorry dude, it ain't right.
Pirated music is stolen music. Bootleg movies are stolen property. Pay up your $.99
And this is why tours matter so much now. Sad.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:53:16pm |
re: #53 Rightwingconspirator
Living in LA gave me the chance to learn certain things about certain situations. Movies, music, entertainment... And it made me very conservative in this instance. Because of my musician/actor/writer/photographer friends.
When we consider the price we paid back when of old albums, singles, tapes, vinyl... It was all known to be impermanent media. It all wears out. So the natural expectation is we would buy the music more than once. Once for the home, once again for the car maybe. Or use the vinyl to make a tape. All impermanent.
Setting aside piracy, digital means forever. For $.99 a song. We can just migrate from machine to machine now. That has a big impact on revenues. And Artists keep getting screwed. The content creator (musician/writer etc) should do far better than the model we have now.
With apologies to friends and acquaintances that have movies and music unpaid. Sorry dude, it ain't right.
Pirated music is stolen music. Bootleg movies are stolen property. Pay up your $.99
it's a fascinating topic. in your opinion, what's the amount of time elapsed between music purchased and music lost before a person should lose their right to ask for a free replacement?
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:53:37pm |
The first record I ever bought was a 45 of "i want to hold your hand" in 1964 when I was 7 years old. Been a Beatles fan ever since.
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:55:17pm |
re: #55 wlewisiii
[Link: www.smithsonianmag.com...]
"Accounts of the 1876 battle have focused on Custer's ill-fated cavalry. But a new book offers a take from the Indian's point of view
* By Thomas Powers
* Photographs by Aaron Huey
* Smithsonian magazine, November 2010"
nice...thanks
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Virginia Plain Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:56:37pm |
Oh, so this is the big announcement that Apple is promising tomorrow. I was hoping it would be the new software update for the iPhone and iPad, but this is pretty big.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:57:05pm |
re: #54 Stanley Sea
Is anyone into Bruce Springsteen a lot? I preface it with that because it's long, but damn worth the moment spent to read it.
Really good blog post forwarded via Sully today.
Verrry good read.
That's interesting reading - especially since "Darkness" is my favorite album of his.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:57:24pm |
Hmm... The folks at Apple Records really are pushovers when it comes to holding a grudge.
/
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 6:57:43pm |
re: #57 Aceofwhat?
it's a fascinating topic. in your opinion, what's the amount of time elapsed between music purchased and music lost before a person should lose their right to ask for a free replacement?
Not easy to answer, but each media has an expected number of quality plays. So, I'd start there. Vinyl loses something each play. I never saw a lifetime warranty from a label. Now we have unlimited plays.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:00:07pm |
re: #52 albusteve
Crazy Horse and his posse killed Custer, most likely
Custer's 7th Cav. gang just didn't have enough homeboys to win that fight, I heard they was outnumbered pretty drastic. Custer tried to split his homeys and send half of them around on a sneak and peek, only they got busted and gots pretty shredded tryin to back on out of that hostile hood. Meanwhiles Custer and his closest homeys trieds ta take on about 20 times their number of the Sitting Bull gang and got schooled away to infinity.
It was definately a bad scene from what I heard, only thing they found alive afterward was an effing horse, ya believe it? Nothing but an effing horse, dude that musta been a really bad scene...
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:00:11pm |
re: #63 Rightwingconspirator
Not easy to answer, but each media has an expected number of quality plays. So, I'd start there. Vinyl loses something each play. I never saw a lifetime warranty from a label. Now we have unlimited plays.
But if we use 'expected number of quality plays' as our baseline, am i wrong for having transferred many of my cd's to digital files on my pc, essentially converting them from limited play format to unlimited play format?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:01:38pm |
re: #63 Rightwingconspirator
Not easy to answer, but each media has an expected number of quality plays. So, I'd start there. Vinyl loses something each play. I never saw a lifetime warranty from a label. Now we have unlimited plays.
Remember the hard earned money spent on CASSETTES? gah
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Virginia Plain Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:01:53pm |
I have every CD of theirs, which were given to me by my Dad. And I've ripped each and every album to iTunes, so this piece of news does not matter so much to me. The sound quality is pretty decent, partially because those CDs are digitally remastered. But I'm glad that the Beatles are now on iTunes because others who don't care for CDs can download their songs.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:02:29pm |
re: #65 Aceofwhat?
No, my point is digital is permanent. CD's introduced the "forever music" era. IMHO. The old digital data law let us make personal copies to prevent loss. Not for distribution. So we became free to migrate the content.
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:03:02pm |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:05:11pm |
re: #68 Rightwingconspirator
No, my point is digital is permanent. CD's introduced the "forever music" era. IMHO. The old digital data law let us make personal copies to prevent loss. Not for distribution. So we became free to migrate the content.
interesting. i like the way that you put it. (and i agree, as well)
thanks.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:05:55pm |
re: #66 Stanley Sea
Sure. I loved making tapes from my LP's.
LOL. Given the pleasures gained in the car (ahem) it was so worth it!
Jeff Beck, I-10 to Phoenix from LA leaving about midnight, Phoenix by dawn by damn! (Throwback to 55 mph days)
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:06:26pm |
re: #64 ausador
Custer's 7th Cav. gang just didn't have enough homeboys to win that fight, I heard they was outnumbered pretty drastic. Custer tried to split his homeys and send half of them around on a sneak and peek, only they got busted and gots pretty shredded tryin to back on out of that hostile hood. Meanwhiles Custer and his closest homeys trieds ta take on about 20 times their number of the Sitting Bull gang and got schooled away to infinity.
It was definately a bad scene from what I heard, only thing they found alive afterward was an effing horse, ya believe it? Nothing but an effing horse, dude that musta been a really bad scene...
Word.
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albusteve Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:07:06pm |
re: #64 ausador
Custer's 7th Cav. gang just didn't have enough homeboys to win that fight, I heard they was outnumbered pretty drastic. Custer tried to split his homeys and send half of them around on a sneak and peek, only they got busted and gots pretty shredded tryin to back on out of that hostile hood. Meanwhiles Custer and his closest homeys trieds ta take on about 20 times their number of the Sitting Bull gang and got schooled away to infinity.
It was definately a bad scene from what I heard, only thing they found alive afterward was an effing horse, ya believe it? Nothing but an effing horse, dude that musta been a really bad scene...
all true, and a very moving place to visit too...Custer was a racist maniac
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:07:07pm |
re: #64 ausador
Excellent language use to tell the story.
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:09:14pm |
First albums I bought, or my dad paid for, were Hey Jude and Stawberry Alarm Clock.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:10:06pm |
A Message From Transport Canada
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efuseakay Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:11:21pm |
If Apple's having a "special event" just for that announcement... mehhhh.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:12:00pm |
re: #76 prairiefire
First albums I bought, or my dad paid for, were Hey Jude and Stawberry Alarm Clock.
my first CD was Achtung Baby...was a pretty enormous U2 fan as a lad.
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:13:25pm |
Hubby has to have a colonoscopy tomorrow *snicker*.
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Virginia Plain Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:13:34pm |
re: #78 efuseakay
If Apple's having a "special event" just for that announcement... mehhh.
I suppose it's to distract people from the so-called delay of iOS 4.2 due to a wifi issue.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:14:09pm |
re: #76 prairiefire
First albums I bought, or my dad paid for, were Hey Jude and Stawberry Alarm Clock.
Bad Company (Bad Company) and Sweet
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:14:34pm |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:14:51pm |
re: #80 prairiefire
Hubby has to have a colonoscopy tomorrow *snicker*.
Ask the doctor if you can have a DVD of the whole thing... and then if he ever gets an upper GI, get a DVD of that... Fantastic Voyage... I have my complete set.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:15:52pm |
re: #82 Rightwingconspirator
Bad Company (Bad Company) and Sweet
BTW that Bad Company is what happens when you play vinyl until you can play with it as a slinky.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:16:04pm |
re: #80 prairiefire
Hubby has to have a colonoscopy tomorrow *snicker*.
Heh.
High school friend live-blogged his prep day on FB. LOL. We had a grand time, until his daughter apparently became so embarrassed she shamed him into stopping.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:16:28pm |
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Charles Johnson Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:16:47pm |
I betcha Apple2 makes hundreds of millions of dollars almost immediately after putting the catalog on sale.
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:16:52pm |
re: #54 Stanley Sea
I really like Joe's writing. He used to write for the sports section at the KC Star. My dad about cried when he left. I'm not sure if the Star carries any of his reporting anymore.
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Virginia Plain Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:17:01pm |
re: #80 prairiefire
Hubby has to have a colonoscopy tomorrow *snicker*.
If he keeps asking the same question over and over, remember, it's the Versed talking. Oh, and maybe you can get him to write a little something on his butt cheeks to make the GI doctor laugh.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:17:37pm |
I refused to download pirate music because
1. By then I was old enough to understand that musicians need to be paid
and
2. I was old enough to understand that pirated music is often a virus carrier.
My husband stopped being willing to fix my parents' computer until they stopped my then-teenage baby brother from downloading any old thing he came across.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:17:41pm |
re: #76 prairiefire
First albums I bought, or my dad paid for, were Hey Jude and Stawberry Alarm Clock.
Mine was Styx "Pieces of Eight".
What? I was a midwestern boy in the late '70's and didn't discover The Clash & The Ramones until later that year.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:17:41pm |
re: #89 prairiefire
I really like Joe's writing. He used to write for the sports section at the KC Star. My dad about cried when he left. I'm not sure if the Star carries any of his reporting anymore.
I was totally checking out his sports stuff on the blog! What a find today! I will read him more now.
| 94 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:18:03pm |
re: #89 prairiefire
I really like Joe's writing. He used to write for the sports section at the KC Star. My dad about cried when he left. I'm not sure if the Star carries any of his reporting anymore.
So, you read Jason Whitlock?
| 95 |
prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:19:36pm |
re: #94 Stanley Sea
Yes, ma'am I have. He can have some very strong opinions! I enjoyed it when he came down on the Chiefs for signing so many gangsters a few years ago. King Carl Peterson~ugh.
| 96 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:20:08pm |
re: #91 EmmmieG
I refused to download pirate music because
1. By then I was old enough to understand that musicians need to be paid
and
2. I was old enough to understand that pirated music is often a virus carrier.
My husband stopped being willing to fix my parents' computer until they stopped my then-teenage baby brother from downloading any old thing he came across.
A wise man, your husband.
| 97 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:20:53pm |
Late snack time. BLT using some double-smoked thick cut bacon I picked over over the weekend. Courtesy of Smokehouse of the Catskills. (German butcher located up near Saugerties.) [drool]
| 98 |
Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:21:22pm |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
[raises eyebrow]
Modern interpretation...I get some license...I think?
(Have you seen Romeo+Juliet from1996 with Leonardo DiCaprio? I don't know why almost everyone I have talked to says that they hate it, I thought it was a pretty great try at making Shakespeare revelant to this generation.)
| 99 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:21:29pm |
re: #95 prairiefire
Yes, ma'am I have. He can have some very strong opinions! I enjoyed it when he came down on the Chiefs for signing so many gangsters a few years ago. King Carl Peterson~ugh.
I love him. Actually the story as my memory serves is I was reading him in 2008 and he was talking about how the election made him start reading many political blogs. He named LGF (as I recall) and it brought me here. Well, to lurk for quite awhile before the great awakening heh.
| 100 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:21:39pm |
re: #92 wlewisiii
Mine was Styx "Pieces of Eight".
What? I was a midwestern boy in the late '70's and didn't discover The Clash & The Ramones until later that year.
that's ok. i also bought a Scorpions CD...buying music as a young teen is a lot like dressing as a young teen: fraught with peril.
| 101 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:21:40pm |
Notice how this deal just happens to be reached in time for Christmas.
| 102 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:21:40pm |
Not pictured: intimate knowledge of the female form.
/though his artwork does seem rather good...
| 103 |
prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:22:13pm |
| 104 |
Digital Display Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:22:23pm |
The most beautiful thing about music is it can bring you back to a memory of that moment..When I hear an old song it's like a time machine to my life..an old Eagles song and me strapping my son in his car seat..A certain Sting Song reminds me of the scent of candles, dim lights and making love at 3am.. There is something magical about music that takes me back years ago that nothing else can do..
| 105 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:23:43pm |
re: #98 ausador
Modern interpretation...I get some license...I think?
(Have you seen Romeo+Juliet from1996 with Leonardo DiCaprio? I don't know why almost everyone I have talked to says that they hate it, I thought it was a pretty great try at making Shakespeare revelant to this generation.)
I didn't care for it when it came out. I may just be ready for it now... Yo! Netflix!
| 106 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:23:57pm |
My first CD was bought for me by my husband; it was Journey's Best Hits.
Fate repaid me recently as I was stuck on a five-hour band bus trip listening to a fairly extended Journey sing-along.
It was all I could do not to stand up and shout, "No! You fools! Separate Ways is the best, not Don't Stop Believing!"
| 107 |
researchok Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:25:00pm |
re: #101 Charles
Notice how this deal just happens to be reached in time for Christmas.
Yet another holiday miracle from some very wise men.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:25:13pm |
re: #101 Charles
They'll be making more money than Col. Sanders at a cock fighting match.
/I don't even know what the hell that's supposed to mean, it just sounded good in my head
| 109 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:25:36pm |
re: #106 EmmmieG
My first CD was bought for me by my husband; it was Journey's Best Hits.
Fate repaid me recently as I was stuck on a five-hour band bus trip listening to a fairly extended Journey sing-along.
It was all I could do not to stand up and shout, "No! You fools! Separate Ways is the best, not Don't Stop Believing!"
REO Speedwagon > Journey. Wanna fight about it?
| 110 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:25:58pm |
Discussion point: Could Steve Perry win American Idol?*
Better yet, is this in his favor, or against?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:26:15pm |
re: #104 HoosierHoops
The most beautiful thing about music is it can bring you back to a memory of that moment..When I hear an old song it's like a time machine to my life..an old Eagles song and me strapping my son in his car seat..A certain Sting Song reminds me of the scent of candles, dim lights and making love at 3am.. There is something magical about music that takes me back years ago that nothing else can do..
Exactly. That's why music is so important to life.
My stepfather still has his moments with Elvis. It really made me understand the importance of music - the where you were when you heard it - and how that stays with you forever.
Segue into how tours matter so much for income for bands and how I've heard some rather over the hill performances lately.
| 112 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:27:13pm |
Evening lizards!
The Beatles are still awesome.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:27:22pm |
re: #104 HoosierHoops
The most beautiful thing about music is it can bring you back to a memory of that moment..When I hear an old song it's like a time machine to my life..an old Eagles song and me strapping my son in his car seat..A certain Sting Song reminds me of the scent of candles, dim lights and making love at 3am.. There is something magical about music that takes me back years ago that nothing else can do..
Then there's this song that reminds me of the Stalkers:
| 114 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:27:37pm |
re: #109 Aceofwhat?
REO Speedwagon > Journey. Wanna fight about it?
REO Speedealer > REO Speedwagon. Now what?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:27:45pm |
Stopped to watch the video. Those are some serious mall bangs. No comment on the 'staches two of the band members were still sporting.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:27:45pm |
re: #109 Aceofwhat?
REO Speedwagon > Journey. Wanna fight about it?
REO. all the way
Midnight Special 1978 they killed it
| 117 |
freetoken Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:28:06pm |
Did someone say "Christmas"?
[Link: www.ringtonematcher.com...]
| 118 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:28:12pm |
re: #88 Charles
I like the Itunes deal. Fair price, artists get paid, and they do not have even to be signed. Funny thing, when I put an indy band (Crossed Keys) I like on our I tunes I bought through Itunes, it gets frequent play on shuffle. Coincidence? Maybe. But they do protect the music. My Itunes music will not drop into my videos.
| 119 |
Virginia Plain Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:28:39pm |
re: #109 Aceofwhat?
REO Speedwagon > Journey. Wanna fight about it?
None of the above. Both bands are way too overplayed on the classic rock stations. And the same goes for Boston too.
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JeffFX Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:28:41pm |
re: #91 EmmmieG
2. I was old enough to understand that pirated music is often a virus carrier.
I don't think there's ever been a buffer-overflow exploit exposed in a PC music player, which would be required for a music file to have any chance of containing a virus. A file needs to be executable (an .exe file on a PC), or exploit a bug in the program opening the file to infect a system.
| 121 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:29:09pm |
re: #104 HoosierHoops
Yes, music & memories!
Hope you are well?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:29:09pm |
re: #109 Aceofwhat?
REO Speedwagon > Journey. Wanna fight about it?
Sorry, REO Speedwagon manages to annoy me a few too many times. Not sure why.
Tom Petty topped them both in my personal rankings. However, Tom Petty grates on my husband, and he was buying the CD.
| 123 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:29:24pm |
re: #117 freetoken
Holy crap, I think Freetoken has found the mysterious Missing Link.
/
| 124 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:29:42pm |
| 125 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:29:44pm |
re: #116 Stanley Sea
REO. all the way
Midnight Special 1978 they killed it
Meh, you want REO go for the best:
| 126 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:30:23pm |
re: #101 Charles
Notice how this deal just happens to be reached in time for Christmas.
LOL!
And, it's no accident!
They've been working on this deal for YEARS.
As the late night deal man says
"Cachingo!"
| 127 |
freetoken Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:30:36pm |
Whoops... that didn't work quite right... let's try this:
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:31:10pm |
| 129 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:31:31pm |
| 131 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:35:14pm |
re: #116 Stanley Sea
REO. all the way
Midnight Special 1978 they killed it
I saw them in Boulder, Co in 1982 with 4 other bands. I wasn't impressed even though they were the headliners. Rainbow & Ted Nugent rocked the place.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:36:18pm |
Back to the Beatles.
| 133 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:36:26pm |
re: #98 ausador
Modern interpretation...I get some license...I think?
(Have you seen Romeo+Juliet from1996 with Leonardo DiCaprio? I don't know why almost everyone I have talked to says that they hate it, I thought it was a pretty great try at making Shakespeare revelant to this generation.)
I think it is absolutely brilliant, but people do have rather strong reactions against it.
| 134 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:37:11pm |
re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist
I think it is absolutely brilliant, but people do have rather strong reactions against it.
I wouldn't mind seeing more modern interpretations like it.
My daughter is still angry at Taylor Swift for "selling out Romeo and Juliet."
| 135 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:37:13pm |
re: #129 Aceofwhat?
now i'm lost
A hard rock/heavy metal band that just goes by Speedealer now. I suspect they had to drop the "REO" due to legal reasons.
| 136 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:37:25pm |
I am trying to learn this, and find myself listening to this song a lot.
Sorry if I'm boring you, posting it.
I'm kinda slow on the learning curve, sometimes.
| 137 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:37:55pm |
re: #122 EmmmieG
Sorry, REO Speedwagon manages to annoy me a few too many times. Not sure why.
Tom Petty topped them both in my personal rankings. However, Tom Petty grates on my husband, and he was buying the CD.
i may need to side with your husband on this one...but Tom's a popular dude, so i figure i'm the one who's missing something!
| 138 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:38:16pm |
re: #131 NJDhockeyfan
REO gets props for helping me get the love of my life the inestimable Dragon_Lady.
| 139 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:38:34pm |
re: #134 EmmmieG
I wouldn't mind seeing more modern interpretations like it.
My daughter is still angry at Taylor Swift for "selling out Romeo and Juliet."
Taylor Swift?
| 140 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:39:06pm |
re: #136 Floral Giraffe
Sorry if I'm boring you, posting it.
S'okay. Anyone that might gripe just needs to learn a little patience. :P
| 141 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:39:12pm |
re: #119 Virginia Plain
None of the above. Both bands are way too overplayed on the classic rock stations. And the same goes for Boston too.
Don't blame the band, play the rest of the LP for yourself sometime.
| 142 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:39:37pm |
My husband and I have in common: U2, The Police, and Journey.
If I think hard I might come up with a fourth.
We believe in headphones and listen to audio books on long trips.
| 143 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:39:38pm |
re: #138 Rightwingconspirator
REO gets props for helping me get the love of my life the inestimable Dragon_Lady.
That makes all the difference...good for you!
| 144 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:39:59pm |
re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist
Taylor Swift?
Love Story. The song ends with them getting married rather than dying stupidly.
| 145 |
samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:40:01pm |
Has anyone ever heard the band Aranda? They cite the Beatles as a main influence. Other influences: Led Zepplin, Hendrix, and Prince.
They produce a pretty unique sound in their live shows...
| 146 |
prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:40:34pm |
re: #127 freetoken
Whoops... that didn't work quite right... let's try this:
[Video]
Thanks, I had not heard that before. 1963.
| 147 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:41:23pm |
re: #132 Stanley Sea
Back to the Beatles.
[Video]
Check out the sunken room - oh how I love the design aesthetic of the 60's
| 148 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:41:23pm |
re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth
S'okay. Anyone that might gripe just needs to learn a little patience. :P
*smooch*
Thank you.
| 149 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:42:23pm |
re: #136 Floral Giraffe
I am trying to learn this, and find myself listening to this song a lot.
Sorry if I'm boring you, posting it.
I'm kinda slow on the learning curve, sometimes.[Video]
ahaaa, that's a must-learn on the beginner guitar list! good for you...the Zeppelin portfolio isn't far away!
| 150 |
Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:43:50pm |
re: #100 Aceofwhat?
that's ok. i also bought a Scorpions CD...buying music as a young teen is a lot like dressing as a young teen: fraught with peril.
Huh...I started out buying 45rpm singles because I couldn't afford albums on my (sometimes) allowance. I'm pretty sure the first song I ever bought was "Brand New key" by Melanie (I got a brand new pair of rollerskates you got a brand new key).
Yeah I know not exactly rock and roll, but it was catchy as hell and stayed on the number one spot for two months at the end of 1971...so sue me. :p
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:43:51pm |
re: #144 EmmmieG
Love Story. The song ends with them getting married rather than dying stupidly.
Oh. Well.
Once saw a very funny play where they make it to Mantua together, but there's no money, and they're getting bored with each other.
| 152 |
Digital Display Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:44:07pm |
re: #132 Stanley Sea
Here I stand head in hand
Turn my face to the wall
If she's gone I can't go on
Feelin' two-foot small
Everywhere people stare
Each and every day
I can see them laugh at me
And I hear them say
Hey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love away
How can I even try
I can never win
Hearing them, seeing them
In the state I'm in
How could she say to me
Love will find a way
Gather round all you clowns
Let me hear you say
Hey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love away
| 153 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:44:23pm |
re: #141 Rightwingconspirator
Don't blame the band, play the rest of the LP for yourself sometime.
Side 1, first Boston LP. Just have to put it on sometimes and crank it to 11.
| 154 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:45:37pm |
re: #152 HoosierHoops
Here I stand head in hand
Turn my face to the wall
If she's gone I can't go on
Feelin' two-foot smallEverywhere people stare
Each and every day
I can see them laugh at me
And I hear them sayHey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love awayHow can I even try
I can never win
Hearing them, seeing them
In the state I'm inHow could she say to me
Love will find a way
Gather round all you clowns
Let me hear you sayHey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love away
I have a reaction to that beautiful song.
HEY
timeless
| 155 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:45:42pm |
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:45:45pm |
re: #145 samuraishake
Has anyone ever heard the band Aranda? They cite the Beatles as a main influence. Other influences: Led Zepplin, Hendrix, and Prince.
They produce a pretty unique sound in their live shows...
I like it... Bookmarked.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:47:05pm |
re: #153 wlewisiii
Side 1, first Boston LP. Just have to put it on sometimes and crank it to 11.
love 'em or hate 'em, those guys could play.
| 158 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:47:49pm |
re: #144 EmmmieG
Love Story. The song ends with them getting married rather than dying stupidly.
I liked the Dire Straits take on it where Romeo's pitching a bitch about Juliette dumping him like last weeks trash.
| 159 |
samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:47:54pm |
| 160 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:48:27pm |
re: #157 Aceofwhat?
love 'em or hate 'em, those guys could play.
Too bad the band had so many problems. They could have made a lot more great albums.
| 161 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:50:08pm |
re: #158 wlewisiii
I liked the Dire Straits take on it where Romeo's pitching a bitch about Juliette dumping him like last weeks trash.
[Video]
Dire Straits was a great band. I wish I had the chance to see them live.
| 162 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:50:59pm |
The first LP I ever bought, for a whopping $7.99... The one Nancy Reagan said, in 1983, would encourage America's youth to blow up buildings.
| 163 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:53:29pm |
re: #157 Aceofwhat?
love 'em or hate 'em, those guys could play.
I didn't like the rest of their work as much, but that side was 18 minutes that no one else had ever done anything like before.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:53:33pm |
re: #162 Slumbering Behemoth
The first LP I ever bought, for a whopping $7.99... The one Nancy Reagan said, in 1983, would encourage America's youth to blow up buildings.
REALLY? Nancy said that? lol
| 165 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:53:41pm |
re: #159 samuraishake
May I return the favor?
Two links one for the music, and one for the impression she & her band made on me.
| 166 |
samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:53:52pm |
Speaking of interesting music, has everyone seen this video?
Drummer at the wrong gig
| 167 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:54:11pm |
re: #158 wlewisiii
I liked the Dire Straits take on it where Romeo's pitching a bitch about Juliette dumping him like last weeks trash.
[Video]
This one has always been my one of my favorite Dire Straights songs.
No embedding, sorry.
| 168 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:54:47pm |
re: #152 HoosierHoops
Here I stand head in hand
Turn my face to the wall
If she's gone I can't go on
Feelin' two-foot smallEverywhere people stare
Each and every day
I can see them laugh at me
And I hear them sayHey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love awayHow can I even try
I can never win
Hearing them, seeing them
In the state I'm inHow could she say to me
Love will find a way
Gather round all you clowns
Let me hear you sayHey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love away
Hello, You!
| 169 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:55:53pm |
re: #164 Stanley Sea
Yeah, the 80's were kinda weird. Lots of people were still nostalgic for the era of Rock n' Roll hysteria, I guess. Plus we had the added bonus of the Satanic Panic thrown in for good measure. Good times.
| 170 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:57:05pm |
re: #166 samuraishake
He seems so... unenthusiastic.
| 171 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:57:35pm |
The first concert I ever went to was this band at the War Memorial in Johnstown, Pa.
| 172 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:57:48pm |
re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, the 80's were kinda weird. Lots of people were still nostalgic for the era of Rock n' Roll hysteria, I guess. Plus we had the added bonus of the Satanic Panic thrown in for good measure. Good times.
Don't forget the rising tide of New Age.
From my perspective, lots of American kids sitting around wishing they were Europeans. I'm not sure what the European kids wanted.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:57:50pm |
re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, the 80's were kinda weird. Lots of people were still nostalgic for the era of Rock n' Roll hysteria, I guess. Plus we had the added bonus of the Satanic Panic thrown in for good measure. Good times.
I do recall watching the Zappa v. Gore hearings on the beginning of CSpan. Right around that time.
| 174 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:58:13pm |
re: #152 HoosierHoops
You have my number, if you want to talk...
| 175 |
Digital Display Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:58:37pm |
re: #168 Floral Giraffe
Hi Beautiful! What a day...I'm getting sleepy...
I love that song..reminds me of the movie..I am Sam..
How is life treating you?
| 176 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:58:52pm |
re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, the 80's were kinda weird. Lots of people were still nostalgic for the era of Rock n' Roll hysteria, I guess. Plus we had the added bonus of the Satanic Panic thrown in for good measure. Good times.
Basically, everything pop-culture in the 80s was going to lead you to kill yourself or others. Except Madonna, who was just going to encourage everyone to get pregnant.
It was a trying era in which to be a young person.
| 177 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:58:56pm |
re: #166 samuraishake
Speaking of interesting music, has everyone seen this video?
Drummer at the wrong gig
My jaw is just hanging
| 178 |
samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:59:01pm |
re: #165 Rightwingconspirator
Awesome sound. I tried to add them to my Pandora, but they're not in there yet...
| 179 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:59:13pm |
re: #166 samuraishake
Speaking of interesting music, has everyone seen this video?
Drummer at the wrong gig
that is fantastic. gary busey with a flock of seagulls haircut, on drums.
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:59:34pm |
re: #158 wlewisiii
I liked the Dire Straits take on it where Romeo's pitching a bitch about Juliette dumping him like last weeks trash.
one of the best ever. shivers every time I hear it. I love that song like the stars above, I'll love it til I die...
| 181 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:00:01pm |
re: #175 HoosierHoops
*smooch*
See #174, you...
| 182 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:00:03pm |
re: #178 samuraishake
I swear he is escrima trained...
| 183 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:00:33pm |
re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically, everything pop-culture in the 80s was going to lead you to kill yourself or others. Except Madonna, who was just going to encourage everyone to get pregnant.
It was a trying era in which to be a young person.
that, and sooo many bad clothing choices. so bad. so many. so many bad.
| 184 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:01:13pm |
re: #180 cliffster
one of the best ever. shivers every time I hear it. I love that song like the stars above, I'll love it til I die...
Mark Knopfler.
What more to say?
Sailing to Philadelphia is an incredible album CD collection of songs, in my own opinion.
| 185 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:01:25pm |
Michael Vick breaks out of another blitz to get a first down. That man has gotten so much better its scary.
| 186 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:01:34pm |
re: #183 Aceofwhat?
that, and sooo many bad clothing choices. so bad. so many. so many bad.
Some day the young ones will look back on skinny jeans and wince.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:01:44pm |
re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically, everything pop-culture in the 80s was going to lead you to kill yourself or others. Except Madonna, who was just going to encourage everyone to get pregnant.
It was a trying era in which to be a young person.
Lol! A correction, Madonna was just encouraging sex. It was up to everyone to handle the shit after that.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:01:48pm |
re: #182 Rightwingconspirator
Que es escrima?
Scribe is to write...
Too lazy for the Google Fu...
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:02:40pm |
re: #183 Aceofwhat?
that, and sooo many bad clothing choices. so bad. so many. so many bad.
...and big hair doos! Hair spray companies made millions in the eighties.
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:05:01pm |
re: #185 Dark_Falcon
Michael Vick breaks out of another blitz to get a first down. That man has gotten so much better its scary.
I think this game will go down as the one where people say.. This! This is what he could have been all along!
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:05:38pm |
re: #184 EmmmieG
Mark Knopfler.
What more to say?
Sailing to Philadelphia is an incredible
albumCDcollection of songs, in my own opinion.
Local Hero soundtrack. "Going Home" remains a favorite of mine:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:05:38pm |
re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically, everything pop-culture in the 80s was going to lead you to kill yourself or others. Except Madonna, who was just going to encourage everyone to get pregnant.
It was a trying era in which to be a young person.
Word. I wasn't even allowed to own a Motorhead t-shirt. That was before the time I just stopped giving a fuck about what I was or was not allowed.
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:05:48pm |
re: #184 EmmmieG
Mark Knopfler.
What more to say?
Sailing to Philadelphia is an incredible
albumCDcollection of songs, in my own opinion.
I've worn the grooves off that CD. Or worn the magnetic flecks off that CD. Or whatever - that CD has gotten some serious airtime in my earphones.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:05:54pm |
re: #189 NJDhockeyfan
...and big hair doos! Hair spray companies made millions in the eighties.
"look how tough we are in our bangs and mascara" says the rocker...
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:06:20pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
Que es escrima?
Scribe is to write...
Too lazy for the Google Fu...
Sorry 'bout that
This is the real deal in practice... The guy with 2 sticks is an escrimador. Phillipine martial art. That drummer cross trains in inexplicable ways.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:06:57pm |
alrighty. early flight. good night, honcos.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:08:14pm |
re: #187 Stanley Sea
Lol! A correction, Madonna was just encouraging sex. It was up to everyone to handle the shit after that.
Well, I was thirteen when "Papa Don't Preach" came out. Enough said.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:09:12pm |
re: #190 cliffster
I think this game will go down as the one where people say.. This! This is what he could have been all along!
True, and the Bears have to play Vick and the Eagles this month. The Bear's defense is back up to what it was in 2007, and the offense is finally coming together. Will Vick lead the Eagles to victory, or will he once again fall to the power of superb defenders such as Brian Urlacher and Tommie Harris? We'll know soon enough.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:09:33pm |
The Eagles are scoring on the Skins every way possible. They've done everything but return a kick or punt for a TD. They have 59 points already, wow.
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:09:57pm |
re: #190 cliffster
I think this game will go down as the one where people say.. This! This is what he could have been all along!
I know some people who work for the federal bureau of prisons. Apparently Vick broke down his last few months in prison after getting so much hate mail. He really started to show genuine remorse, and I think he's a better person now.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:09:59pm |
re: #178 samuraishake
Awesome sound. I tried to add them to my Pandora, but they're not in there yet...
What was fun was photographing them at a few concerts and having enthusiastic permission to put up that slide show. New music soon she says.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:10:40pm |
re: #196 Aceofwhat?
Plastic zipper. No belt. :)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:10:43pm |
re: #183 Aceofwhat?
that, and sooo many bad clothing choices. so bad. so many. so many bad.
Denim and leather, what's so hard about that?
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:11:23pm |
I am flying out to California tomorrow for the funeral.
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blueraven Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:11:30pm |
re: #19 brookly red
I dare you to ask any 20 something to name 2 Beatles songs...
Strongly disagree. My kids are 19 and 21, they know more Beatles songs than I do, and so do their friends.
Across the Universe
was a big hit for that age group.
[Link: www.imdb.com...]
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:11:39pm |
re: #195 Rightwingconspirator
The guy with 2 sticks is an escrimador. Phillipine martial art.
2 sticks > 1 stick
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:11:49pm |
re: #186 EmmmieG
Some day the young ones will look back on skinny jeans and wince.
I wince just seeing people try to walk in them. *pinchypinchy*
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:11:52pm |
re: #152 HoosierHoops
Here I stand head in hand
Turn my face to the wall
If she's gone I can't go on
Feelin' two-foot smallEverywhere people stare
Each and every day
I can see them laugh at me
And I hear them sayHey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love awayHow can I even try
I can never win
Hearing them, seeing them
In the state I'm inHow could she say to me
Love will find a way
Gather round all you clowns
Let me hear you sayHey you've got to hide your love away
Hey you've got to hide your love away
Hmmm...not bad but it doesn't quite match the sentiment of my ex's and mine old favorite theme song. ;)
Can we forget about the things I said when I was drunk?
I didn't mean to call you that.
I can't remember what was said or what you threw at me;
Please tell me,
please tell me whyyyy?
My car is in the front yard,
And I'm Sleeping with my clothes on.
Came in through the window last night;
And your gone,
Gone.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:11:56pm |
re: #185 Dark_Falcon
Michael Vick breaks out of another blitz to get a first down. That man has gotten so much better its scary.
I have a suspicion that jail time gave him time to think, and mature his character a bit, and that maturity shows.
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:12:14pm |
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:12:41pm |
I sold parachute pants at Chess King. And faux leather red and black Thriller jackets.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:13:52pm |
re: #211 prairiefire
I sold parachute pants at Chess King. And faux leather red and black Thriller jackets.
I see. And how much penance did you have to do before you obtained forgiveness for this?
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:14:05pm |
re: #210 samuraishake
Sure. BTW, they are out of Hacienda Heights, just in case you are a SoCal denizen.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:14:07pm |
re: #194 Aceofwhat?
"look how tough we are in our bangs and mascara" says the rocker...
That kind of thing would have gotten you ridiculed right the hell out of our group of stoners. Unless you were actually a girl, of course.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:14:11pm |
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:14:44pm |
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:15:01pm |
re: #213 EmmmieG
I see. And how much penance did you have to do before you obtained forgiveness for this?
I jumped to the Limited and sold Forenza cotton sweaters to a line of ladies going out the door!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:15:02pm |
re: #209 reine.de.tout
I have a suspicion that jail time gave him time to think, and mature his character a bit, and that maturity shows.
Very true. He's operating at a higher level than he used to play at. He reads the defense much better than he used and he keeps his eye open for his receivers. He used to just be fast, now he's fast and good.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:15:26pm |
re: #209 reine.de.tout
I have a suspicion that jail time gave him time to think, and mature his character a bit, and that maturity shows.
As is the best result of incarceration!
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:15:50pm |
re: #217 samuraishake
Go eat at 5 Guys! I know the owners.
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:17:51pm |
re: #222 samuraishake
I have, great food!
Glad to hear it. They're working really hard to get it going.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:17:54pm |
re: #212 Alouette
Sleep well, and stay strong.
*smooch*
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:18:01pm |
To be serious for a moment:
Alouette, I know you miss your father. However, since we have to die, I wish we could all die like your father: in our old age, with family that loves us, having lived a life of honor.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:19:25pm |
re: #209 reine.de.tout
I have a suspicion that jail time gave him time to think, and mature his character a bit, and that maturity shows.
One can only hope.
He deserves better than he is currently giving himself. I hope he wakes up!
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:20:32pm |
re: #227 samuraishake
No, we are in KC. Have you lived in Wichita long?
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:21:39pm |
re: #229 prairiefire
A few years. I'm actually in KC for work right now, leaving in the morning though lol.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:23:15pm |
re: #206 samuraishake
2 sticks > 1 stick
Sure is. That drummer did certain overlapping patterns right out of escrima drills. Certain blocking angles in with the play. On top of the rest of the over the top tribal thing.
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prairiefire Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:23:52pm |
re: #230 samuraishake
I think Wichita has a vibe all its own.
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:24:59pm |
re: #232 prairiefire
Yeah, but not the greatest vibe :)
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:26:04pm |
re: #209 reine.de.tout
I have a suspicion that jail time gave him time to think, and mature his character a bit, and that maturity shows.
That's a tough story. Some will look on him with disgust forever. My wife is one of those people. Domestic animals are, for the most part, beings that simply are helpless in the face of whatever their owners choose to do, and my wife and I are pretty tightly bonded in the hatred of people who betray the animal/person relationship. She will always want me to change the channel when they are talking about Vick this and Vick that. Thing is, I can see where he came from, why he just didn't have a context for the horror of what he was doing, and why he deserves a chance to prove he's learned. He has proven to be a good man at many points along the way (unlike his little brother), and I think that will prove true here too.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:26:41pm |
Alouette, today, for the first time; I called a physicians office asking for something to help me get past the pain of my Mother's passing.
Haven't really slept in weeks... and nothing helps.
We grow up with the expectation that we will outlive our folks. And our folks certainly hope that it is the case.
But, gosh... it hurts so much.
Hope that this Gentile's fervent prayers helps.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:28:51pm |
re: #235 cliffster
That's a tough story. Some will look on him with disgust forever. My wife is one of those people. Domestic animals are, for the most part, beings that simply are helpless in the face of whatever their owners choose to do, and my wife and I are pretty tightly bonded in the hatred of people who betray the animal/person relationship. She will always want me to change the channel when they are talking about Vick this and Vick that. Thing is, I can see where he came from, why he just didn't have a context for the horror of what he was doing, and why he deserves a chance to prove he's learned. He has proven to be a good man at many points along the way (unlike his little brother), and I think that will prove true here too.
Quite Concur.
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:29:11pm |
wow, this is tough. bless you Alouette. you too FBV.
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:29:17pm |
re: #235 cliffster
See comment #200. He's a changed man.re: #200 samuraishake
I know some people who work for the federal bureau of prisons. Apparently Vick broke down his last few months in prison after getting so much hate mail. He really started to show genuine remorse, and I think he's a better person now.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:30:39pm |
Oh. No. Me hates the Redskins.
My ESPN is broken in my hotel room.
Not able to watch the beat down.
(I hate the Eagles slightly less)
| 243 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:31:12pm |
I'm sorry. Just got here. Did I miss something?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:32:30pm |
re: #236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Best wishes for you, Veggie.
I know how hard I am struggling with my Mom.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:33:32pm |
re: #243 Cannadian Club Akbar
Alouette's father passed today, and on the first day of her new job. I can't imagine what she's going through right now.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:34:02pm |
re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh. No. Me hates the Redskins.
My ESPN is broken in my hotel room.
Not able to watch the beat down.
(I hate the Eagles slightly less)
Which team do you like?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:35:05pm |
re: #245 Slumbering Behemoth
Alouette's father passed today, and on the first day of her new job. I can't imagine what she's going through right now.
Peace be upon you Aloutte.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:35:14pm |
re: #246 Dark_Falcon
Well... I'm so glad you asked....
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samuraishake Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:35:50pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:36:37pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:36:40pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:38:30pm |
re: #249 samuraishake
Go Bengals.
*cringe* no downdings please
Trust me, no downdings. I've been a Packers fan all my life and the 70's & 80's were not kind to us either.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:38:58pm |
re: #245 Slumbering Behemoth
Bless Alouette. May she be strong.
Life is hard.
If it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger.
Or, so I keep telling myself.
{{{Alouette}}} big warm loving hugs for you.
Hang in there, Lady!
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:39:14pm |
re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well... I'm so glad you asked...
season might be over, but yesterday was soooo sweet. I keep telling myself, if they win out the season, they're 9-7. Jason Garrett our savior?
| 256 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:40:05pm |
re: #255 cliffster
season might be over, but yesterday was sooo sweet. I keep telling myself, if they win out the season, they're 9-7. Jason Garrett our savior?
Yes he is.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:42:31pm |
re: #253 wlewisiii
Trust me, no downdings. I've been a Packers fan all my life and the 70's & 80's were not kind to us either.
A newspaper column in Chicago actually made that point about the Bears-Packers rivalry: For its its intensity, it's rare for both teams to be good at the same time. When the Bears were hot in the 1980's, the Packers had nothing. When the Packers got Farve and went on a roll, the Bears were a poor team. This season, both teams have ability and that will make their meeting in Lambeau Field on January 2nd a true showdown.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:44:07pm |
re: #255 cliffster
season might be over, but yesterday was sooo sweet. I keep telling myself, if they win out the season, they're 9-7. Jason Garrett our savior?
Absolutely. Garrett was an exceptional backup QB for Aikman and could have been a decent started on another team.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:46:39pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:50:22pm |
re: #257 Dark_Falcon
A newspaper column in Chicago actually made that point about the Bears-Packers rivalry: For its its intensity, it's rare for both teams to be good at the same time. When the Bears were hot in the 1980's, the Packers had nothing. When the Packers got Farve and went on a roll, the Bears were a poor team. This season, both teams have ability and that will make their meeting in Lambeau Field on January 2nd a true showdown.
That will be a fun game.
We owe the Packers to George Halas. He made Green Bay's payroll more than once to keep the team as well as the league alive. Makes it all the better when both teams are playing well.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:53:24pm |
re: #261 wlewisiii
That will be a fun game.
We owe the Packers to George Halas. He made Green Bay's payroll more than once to keep the team as well as the league alive. Makes it all the better when both teams are playing well.
Agreed. They'll be snow, ice, and an epic game. It may well decide who goes to the playoffs. It'll be a game to remember.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:54:56pm |
re: #262 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. They'll be snow, ice, and an epic game. It may well decide who goes to the playoffs. It'll be a game to remember.
A second Ice Bowl would be fantastic.
| 264 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:56:25pm |
Can we please pay better attention to our war al our dogs? Awshit.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:56:48pm |
re: #263 NJDhockeyfan
A second Ice Bowl would be fantastic.
Not sure of that. I don't relish the injuries that would cause. Such a game would be exciting but if the winner lost the wrong people, they might well be out of real playoff contention thanks to the game that got them in.
| 266 |
Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:57:00pm |
re: #264 Rightwingconspirator
Crap. All our dogs. PIMF
| 267 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:01:28pm |
re: #265 Dark_Falcon
Not sure of that. I don't relish the injuries that would cause. Such a game would be exciting but if the winner lost the wrong people, they might well be out of real playoff contention thanks to the game that got them in.
Two things - the first one didn't hurt anyone IIRC though I'm sure the Dallas boy's probably weren't sure all their bits would thaw again :)
Second, that game is why there is a heater system under the turf at Lambeau field. Turn it up and everything turns to nice mud. :eek:
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:03:30pm |
re: #265 Dark_Falcon
Not sure of that. I don't relish the injuries that would cause. Such a game would be exciting but if the winner lost the wrong people, they might well be out of real playoff contention thanks to the game that got them in.
They get hurt in domes too. I don't think cold weather will increase their chances of injuries but it will make the game more fun to watch.
| 270 |
darthstar Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:04:56pm |
Second. Best. Fucking. Voice. Ever.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:08:17pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:08:25pm |
re: #270 darthstar
Second. Best. Fucking. Voice. Ever.
[Video]
Gotta put this guy up there with Flack & Cash...
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darthstar Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:08:54pm |
re: #272 NJDhockeyfan
Gotta put this guy up there with Flack & Cash...
[Video]
Agreed...Van's the man.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:13:28pm |
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blueraven Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:13:32pm |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:14:56pm |
re: #275 blueraven
It doesn't get much better than this
kd Lang singing Leonard Cohen
[Video]
Great song, esp the Bonnie Dobson version, bur not LC or KL.
| 277 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:15:21pm |
Now I'm Here
| 278 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:18:05pm |
Ray Charles w/ Michael McDonald, Van Morrison, Willie Nelson
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reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:18:40pm |
re: #275 blueraven
It doesn't get much better than this
kd Lang singing Leonard Cohen
[Video]
Wrong video.
That was Roberta Flack again.
Is this the one you were talking about? This is great!.
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blueraven Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:20:06pm |
re: #275 blueraven
It doesn't get much better than this
kd Lang singing Leonard Cohen
[Video]
oh cwap...wrong vid
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reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:20:27pm |
re: #268 darthstar
Best. Fucking. Voice. Ever.
[Video]
I love that song.
The first time I heard it I was out with a young man I was madly in love with. Didn't work out - he was from New Orleans, and all the NOLA boys had their real girlfriends back home in NOLA, and those of us on campus in BR were just the pretend girlfriends. pfft.
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blueraven Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:21:16pm |
re: #279 reine.de.tout
Wrong video.
That was Roberta Flack again.Is this the one you were talking about? This is great!.
[Video]
Yes!!
too late
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Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:22:35pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:24:58pm |
re: #283 Killgore Trout
The Sweet Potato Lover's Cookbook: More than 100 ways to enjoy one of the world's healthiest foods
Love 'em.
I just slice them, maybe 3/4" thick slices, and steam them, then eat.
They don't need anything else.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:27:08pm |
re: #280 blueraven
Sometime in the 70's I was camping with the family in eastern Kentucky. A bunch of kids next tent over were going sing all night, so I took an open gallon of cheap white and invited myself in. We sang Leonard Cohen--Suzanne.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:27:39pm |
re: #284 reine.de.tout
Love 'em.
I just slice them, maybe 3/4" thick slices, and steam them, then eat.
They don't need anything else.
My wife puts marshmallows on them.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:27:58pm |
re: #284 reine.de.tout
Love 'em.
I just slice them, maybe 3/4" thick slices, and steam them, then eat.
They don't need anything else.
Sweet potato pasta with hazelnut sage pesto is worth the extra effort. Stir fried with green onion and wasabi is damn delicious. Sweet Potato Cloverleaf Rolls. They're endlessly versatile.
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freetoken Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:28:44pm |
re: #283 Killgore Trout
Yakiimo (sweet potato) vendor - an old favorite in Japan.
Nothing quite like a hot sweet potato on a cold day.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:28:58pm |
Well, it ain't Batman's utility belt, but it's still pretty bad ass.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:32:42pm |
re: #284 reine.de.tout
Love 'em.
I just slice them, maybe 3/4" thick slices, and steam them, then eat.
They don't need anything else.
That's one place my northern roots show through. I'll eat me a mess of potatoes but I can't stand sweet potatoes. Even totally plain or deep fried they fall into the "only if dying from starvation" class. Sweetened up like they are so often, well, I wouldn't wish them on my enemies.
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cliffster Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:33:32pm |
Sheryl Crow - Always on your side
Well everything was easy then, so sweet and innocent
but your angels and your demons reappeared
Leaving only traces of the man you thought you'd be
Leaving me with no place left to go from here
Leaving me so many questions all these years
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efuseakay Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:34:05pm |
re: #81 Virginia Plain
I suppose it's to distract people from the so-called delay of iOS 4.2 due to a wifi issue.
Nah... there is no delay. Apple never said it would be out on such-and-such date.
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blueraven Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:37:39pm |
re: #285 Decatur Deb
Sometime in the 70's I was camping with the family in eastern Kentucky. A bunch of kids next tent over were going sing all night, so I took an open gallon of cheap white and invited myself in. We sang Leonard Cohen--Suzanne.
[Video]
Haha..Once right after I moved to TX in the late 70s we went camping. I had my guitar and started playing softly. Before I knew it two other girls joined me and we drank and sang all night. We dubbed ourselves the Texas songbirds.
good times!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:38:19pm |
re: #288 freetoken
Yakiimo (sweet potato) vendor - an old favorite in Japan.
Nothing quite like a hot sweet potato on a cold day.
I got my idea of sweet potato pasta from the Japanese. I was trying to recreate soba noodles with no luck until I figured out they use yam flour along with the buckwheat.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:38:33pm |
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:43:33pm |
Well...uhh...this one starts out so over the top anti-semitic that it is almost funny, come on, the "Elders of Zion Protocols," really? But then it just goes even further downhill, and keeps on going.
Supposedly Jews killed 150 children in Paris in 1883 and took their blood, then they did the same thing in London shortly after but this time the killers were all Rabbis...
And then it gets even worse, and worse, and worse, just one fairy tale about the bloodthirsty child murdering Jews after another. Holy fuck, no wonder there is no chance of peace in the middle east with this blatant lying bullshit propaganda on their T.V. channels constantly now...I'm sickened, really.
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blueraven Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:45:15pm |
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:49:00pm |
re: #296 ausador
BTW I didn't realize that you needed lots of Christian blood to make proper Jewish Matzos, no wonder mine never taste quite right. Why didn't anyone tell me this stuff before?
///
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Decatur Deb Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:50:41pm |
Sticking with a "Sally" theme: The Commitments soundtrack.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:52:33pm |
re: #298 ausador
BTW I didn't realize that you needed lots of Christian blood to make proper Jewish Matzos, no wonder mine never taste quite right. Why didn't anyone tell me this stuff before?
///
The next question being why matzos aren't black or dark brown.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:53:05pm |
re: #296 ausador
I spotted a link to that earlier today, just haven't yet had the stomach to watch it.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:53:38pm |
re: #301 EmmmieG
Jooo magic.
/
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ozbloke Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:54:29pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:55:38pm |
re: #300 Decatur Deb
Sticking with a "Sally" theme: The Commitments soundtrack.
[Video]
Awesome movie!
Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud.
~ Jimmy Rabbitte
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:57:50pm |
Little Feat - Feats Don't Fail Me Now
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 9:57:51pm |
re: #303 Slumbering Behemoth
Jooo magic.
/
Yeah, 'cause if I baked with even a little bit of blood, I'm guessing (never tried it) that it would turn out dark, like blood pudding.
Not a giant saltine. (No offense.)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:03:24pm |
re: #269 NJDhockeyfan
They get hurt in domes too. I don't think cold weather will increase their chances of injuries but it will make the game more fun to watch.
You're likely right, I was just worrying. Gotta go to bed. Sleep well, all.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:04:45pm |
re: #307 EmmmieG
Yeah, 'cause if I baked with even a little bit of blood, I'm guessing (never tried it) that it would turn out dark, like blood pudding.
Not a giant saltine. (No offense.)
You just always wonder if thesepeople every bother to actually think about it, or just run around in circles and hyperventilate and make crap up.
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ozbloke Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:05:02pm |
'Spacetime cloak' to make events invisible
Physicists have conceived of a 'spacetime' cloak which makes the passage of time invisible by manipulating light.
The cloak, which could conceal whole events from a viewer, promises to be of interest to jewellery robbers, magicians, exam cheats and practical jokers.
The theory is based on censoring the flow of events, which we perceive as a stream of light particles, also called photons, that strike the retina.
According to researchers from Imperial College London and Salford University in north-west England, the flow of photons can be slowed and events edited out and stitched back together by exploiting a characteristic of fibre optics.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:05:34pm |
This is just terrific... it doesn't get much better than this.
Etta James & Dr.John - I'd Rather Go Blind ( Blind Girl)
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Decatur Deb Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:06:07pm |
re: #309 EmmmieG
You just always wonder if thesepeople every bother to actually think about it, or just run around in circles and hyperventilate and make crap up.
There's a lot of that going around.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:06:16pm |
re: #298 ausador
BTW I didn't realize that you needed lots of Christian blood to make proper Jewish Matzos, no wonder mine never taste quite right. Why didn't anyone tell me this stuff before?
///
You always use twice as much blood as the directions on the Manischewitz box say.
//Actually true of the amount of oil that you're supposed to put in the matzo balls.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:07:08pm |
re: #309 EmmmieG
You just always wonder if thesepeople every bother to actually think about it, or just run around in circles and hyperventilate and make crap up.
When a story has been running for a good thousand years, you don't bother to fact-check it, you just add more fuel, and keep going.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:09:24pm |
re: #314 SanFranciscoZionist
When a story has been running for a good thousand years, you don't bother to fact-check it, you just add more fuel, and keep going.
There's an anti-Mormon story out there, supposedly, that involves a woman escaping the SL temple by diving off the top into the Great Salt Lake.
I've got to find that story.
Also, they need to learn to use a map. I lived in Salt Lake for over a year, walked next to the temple every day, and I've never seen the lake.
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ozbloke Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:11:26pm |
re: #315 EmmmieG
There's an anti-Mormon story out there, supposedly, that involves a woman escaping the SL temple by diving off the top into the Great Salt Lake.
I've got to find that story.
Also, they need to learn to use a map. I lived in Salt Lake for over a year, walked next to the temple every day, and I've never seen the lake.
// You just need a bit more faith.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:12:31pm |
re: #316 ozbloke
// You just need a bit more faith.
Well, sometimes I had enough faith to smell the lake, when the wind blew the right way.
It's a salt lake. Stinks of brine.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:12:46pm |
re: #307 EmmmieG
Yeah, 'cause if I baked with even a little bit of blood, I'm guessing (never tried it) that it would turn out dark, like blood pudding.
Not a giant saltine. (No offense.)
Oh it would. Trust me on this, I speak from experience.
Not real blood of course, but my grandma would put food coloring in my scramble eggs when I was a kid if I asked (Green Eggs and Ham, ya know). Once I asked for red food coloring. Just a few drops and it looked like the most gawt-awful, gory plate of eggs you ever did see.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:12:47pm |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:14:22pm |
re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth
By the fourth kid you get really, really sick of "Green Eggs and Ham".
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:15:17pm |
re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh it would. Trust me on this, I speak from experience.
Not real blood of course, but my grandma would put food coloring in my scramble eggs when I was a kid if I asked (Green Eggs and Ham, ya know). Once I asked for red food coloring. Just a few drops and it looked like the most gawt-awful, gory plate of eggs you ever did see.
That's what happens when I put ketchup on my scrambled eggs.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:15:57pm |
After ten. I just turned into a pumpkin.
*poof*
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engineer cat Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:17:16pm |
here is a blog post with some pictures from our recent trip to italy
[Link: jazzincunabula.blogspot.com...]
my favorite picture is the last one
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:18:00pm |
re: #309 EmmmieG
You just always wonder if thesepeople every bother to actually think about it, or just run around in circles and hyperventilate and make crap up.
It's insanity and they teach their kids that shit.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:19:14pm |
re: #286 NJDhockeyfan
My wife puts marshmallows on them.
Heretic! Probably likes pineapple on pizza too! :p
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:19:42pm |
re: #321 NJDhockeyfan
That's what happens when I put ketchup on my scrambled eggs.
Ketchup? KETCHUP?!? You speak blasphemy, sir! Sriracha is what must be put on scrambled eggs! SRIRACHA!!
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:21:09pm |
re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth
Ketchup? KETCHUP?!? You speak blasphemy, sir! Sriracha is what must be put on scrambled eggs! SRIRACHA!!
My wife looked at me in horror the first time I splattered my eggs with ketchup. It's a NJ thing, you wouldn't understand.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:22:00pm |
re: #325 oaktree
Heretic! Probably likes pineapple on pizza too! :p
//
No pineapple pizza in my house. It's forbidden.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:25:51pm |
re: #320 Decatur Deb
By the fourth kid you get really, really sick of "Green Eggs and Ham".
My grandma was* a patient woman, she loved entertaining the whimsy of her grandchildren. She even tried to talk me out of the red food coloring thing, several times. When she saw the disgust on my face that she knew would come, she simply said "I told you it would gross you out, now eat 'em".
*When I say "was", I don't mean that she is no longer with us, just that she is much older, always achy, forgetful by the minute, and not nearly as patient as she used to be. Now I entertain her whimsy.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:26:23pm |
re: #327 NJDhockeyfan
Fuckin' guido.
/
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:27:44pm |
re: #313 SanFranciscoZionist
You always use twice as much blood as the directions on the Manischewitz box say.
//Actually true of the amount of oil that you're supposed to put in the matzo balls.
Can't speak to that, but I remember telling my wife tonight that the "secret" to my beef barley soup is to toss in the Manischewitz minestrone soup mix. If I have a decent broth that will give me a foundation that will fix all mistakes :)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:34:59pm |
I think I'll hit the hay. Later lizards.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 15, 2010 10:40:32pm |
re: #332 NJDhockeyfan
I think I'll hit the hay.
Ya know, dude. Smoking that shit doesn't really do anything for you, 'cept make you cough your balls off. Just sayin'.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 16, 2010 1:10:06am |
Guess I need to talk to myself. Which is nice. I love an intelligent conversation.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 16, 2010 1:52:59am |
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EdDantes Tue, Nov 16, 2010 2:05:57am |
re: #338 Cannadian Club Akbar
I looked anyway and I like the way you think!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 2:18:52am |
Everybody knows it can't ever be enough of Cohen.
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EdDantes Tue, Nov 16, 2010 2:26:52am |
re: #343 Sergey Romanov
I heard my first Leonard Cohen song in 1972, " The Story of Isaac." still my favorite.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 2:48:00am |
re: #296 ausador
Well...uhh...this one starts out so over the top anti-semitic that it is almost funny, come on, the "Elders of Zion Protocols," really? But then it just goes even further downhill, and keeps on going.
Supposedly Jews killed 150 children in Paris in 1883 and took their blood, then they did the same thing in London shortly after but this time the killers were all Rabbis...
And then it gets even worse, and worse, and worse, just one fairy tale about the bloodthirsty child murdering Jews after another. Holy fuck, no wonder there is no chance of peace in the middle east with this blatant lying bullshit propaganda on their T.V. channels constantly now...I'm sickened, really.
[Video]
The Blood Libel is alive and well, and not only in the Middle East.
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EdDantes Tue, Nov 16, 2010 3:05:27am |
re: #350 Sergey Romanov
keep an eye on the concessions Israel is being asked to make. If you listen carefully, Israel is the only obstacle to mid east peace.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 3:38:49am |
Weirdness with ratings persists - I can see the rating buttons in posts from work, where I use Tor browser, but not at home. I guess I effed up some settings :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 3:51:28am |
re: #352 Sergey Romanov
You can test it out by searching for each of my posts and try to up-ding them.
I'm just trying to help.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 3:52:09am |
re: #351 EdDantes
keep an eye on the concessions Israel is being asked to make. If you listen carefully, Israel is the only obstacle to mid east peace.
Yup
No truth to the rumors that their neighbors want to push Israel into the sea, not to mention all those optical illusionary rockets being fired at them, and even if it were true, thats hardly an "obstacle to mid east peace"
(as they say ,,, OY!)
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 16, 2010 3:56:23am |
re: #353 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You can test it out by searching for each of my posts and try to up-ding them.
I'm just trying to help.
Do not listen to FBV.
He's a ding whore.
;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 3:58:07am |
re: #353 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You can test it out by searching for each of my posts and try to up-ding them.
I'm just trying to help.
All right, will do! IIUC the upding button is the red one.
/
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:03:06am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:05:43am |
Google CEO: Android update "could replace credit cards"
SAN FRANCISCO (CNNMoney.com) -- The next generation of Android is coming in a few weeks, and that update to the mobile operating system "could replace credit cards," according to Google chief executive Eric Schmidt.At the Web 2.0 Summit in San Francisco, Schmidt said Android 2.3 (code-named Gingerbread) will combine location services with "tap-and-pay" functionality.
"Imagine that instead of typing my search, my phone is sending me information all the time," Schmidt said. "Maybe I tell [my phone] I need a pair of pants, and I get relevant information as I walk down the street."
Yeah, yeah.
Just as the Kindle will replace books.
Or the netbook the pc.
Or the Ipad the laptop.
Sure.
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:14:09am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:16:23am |
re: #361 Varek Raith
Now I have a new desktop picture. Thank ye very much.
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:25:48am |
re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now I have a new desktop picture. Thank ye very much.
NP.
I use this...
SURPRISE!!!
Image: 3211-1-1243907028.jpg
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:26:20am |
This is from an animal lover.
My Facebook page is full of Michael Vick haters. I am not going to judge him, he's paid the debt that society required of him.
I think that the Michael Vick saga is a wonderful story of redemption.
And I am not hoping he will fall.
There. I said it.
| 365 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:26:51am |
re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(But I do hate the Eagles)
| 366 |
Varek Raith Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:40:30am |
This was loud... I thought something hit my house...
Folks from Gainesville to Alexandria felt the earth move Monday afternoon. But why it moved is a mystery.
Just after 2 p.m., thousands of people heard booms and felt the earth rumble. Windows rattled and some worried residents called police dispatchers, who said they felt it, too.
The U.S. Geological Survey looked into whether a small quake struck, but said they recorded no seismic activity.
A call to Quantico Marine Corps Base turned up what might be the answer. The base is conducting munitions training this week, as it does most weeks. Those who live and work nearby often get their windows rattled, but the noise is generally isolated to the immediate area.
But also this week, Quantico is conducting "operational range clearance," which means they're blowing up a bunch of old munitions left out of the ranges. The booming might be more frequent, louder and made more jarring by overcast skies, the base said.
Earthquakes in the area aren't all that uncommon. In July, a 3.6-magnitude tremblor shook residents awake in the Washington region, jostling dishes and rattling windows. It was the strongest quake to hit within 30 miles of D.C. since the survey began keeping records.
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iossarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:47:33am |
re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This is from an animal lover.
My Facebook page is full of Michael Vick haters. I am not going to judge him, he's paid the debt that society required of him.
I think that the Michael Vick saga is a wonderful story of redemption.
And I am not hoping he will fall.
There. I said it.
Completely agree. What Vick did was despicable, but there are plenty of public figures who have done the same or worse and are now totally rehabilitated (which is, after all, the whole point of sentencing).
| 368 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 4:53:18am |
*thinks that this cover of Der Amboss is ueber-cool*
| 369 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 5:11:36am |
I hate to leave this lively debate... but I have to get to work.
Later, nobody.
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Ericus58 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 5:32:39am |
re: #166 samuraishake
Speaking of interesting music, has everyone seen this video?
Drummer at the wrong gig
LOL, classic.
Reminds me of a drummer my wife and I caught this past summer in Friday Harbor. Radical mischief! The band is called Isle Zen. Good time.
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 5:44:17am |
re: #370 Ericus58
Reminds me of a drummer my wife and I caught this past summer in Friday Harbor.
The way tthat s worded it sounds like you set a trap for him! What kind of bait do you use in a drummer trap?
| 372 |
laZardo Tue, Nov 16, 2010 5:46:34am |
re: #88 Charles
I betcha Apple2 makes hundreds of millions of dollars almost immediately after putting the catalog on sale.
That'll be enough to have the iP[roduct variant] 4GS out by Christmas.
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Ericus58 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:06:24am |
re: #371 SteveC
The way tthat s worded it sounds like you set a trap for him! What kind of bait do you use in a drummer trap?
Rum Cake!
| 374 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:06:28am |
Israel, Gilad Shalit's 1600th day of Captivity
On November 11th 2010 Israelis have marked 1600 days since the day Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit was captured by Hamas in a cross-border raid near Kerem Shalom and held as a prisoner in the Gaza Strip.
Gilad Shalit is an Israeli soldier who was captured on 25 June 2006 by Hamas in a cross-border raid and has been held as a prisoner in the Gaza Strip. He was the first Israeli soldier captured by Palestinian militants since 1994. His parents are camping outside of Israeli Prime Minister’s residence in Jerusalem to pressure the government into striking a deal for Shalit's release.
Since the day of the capture, the Israeli government and the International Community tried to reach a deal with Hamas for Gilad’s release but the negotiations have been stuck in recent months.
Hamas demands the release of 1,000 prisoners (450 of these jailed for violent attack on Israelis) but Israel refuses to agree to release most of them. A crescent part of the Israeli society and Gilad’s parents - Noam and Aviva - calls on Prime Minister to “make a courageous decision” and agree to the price set by Hamas for his release, but Benjamin Netanyahu has said that “the price is simply too high. Israel is willing to pay a heavy price for Shalit but not any price".
Hamas has refused requests to allow the International Red Cross to visit Shalit and only three letters, an audio and a video have been released to prove that Gilad - corporal in the IDF at the time of his abduction and recently promoted to staff sergeant - is still alive.
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:12:21am |
there ain't no hypocrite like a freshman GOP hypocrite..........
"no to government run healthcare!!!!!!!!!!"
becomes......
"wheres MY government run healthcare
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:14:49am |
CA woman charged with terrorist aid
A California woman has been charged with conspiring to provide money and people to a Somali terrorist group to help carry out killings in the African nation, according to a federal indictment unsealed Monday.
Nima Ali Yusuf, a 24-year-old permanent resident of the U.S., conspired in Southern California and elsewhere to aid al-Shabab, an al-Qaida-linked militia trying to create an Islamic state in Somalia, the indictment states.
Federal prosecutors did not provide further details on the allegations.
Since 2007, roughly 20 men have left Minnesota to fight with al-Shabab. Authorities said one became the first known U.S. citizen to do a suicide bombing when he launched an attack in Somalia.
The FBI said he might have been "radicalized" in Minneapolis.
It wasn't immediately clear from the indictment whether Yusuf was connected to those men.
Yusuf was the fourth person charged in the past month in San Diego with helping al-Shabab. The others were accused of helping raise money and route funds to the radical Islamist group.
The indictments come as the U.S. government cracks down on those suspected of helping al-Shabab.
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AK-47% Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:21:24am |
re: #375 wozzablog
If the Republicans try to repeal health care, Democrats should insist on a rider cancelling all government health insurance benefits for congresspeople...
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:29:01am |
re: #377 ralphieboy
If the Republicans try to repeal health care, Democrats should insist on a rider cancelling all government health insurance benefits for congresspeople...
If ObamaCare© is so great, Congress should get it as well as the rest of the government employees (except the President & VP). They should also cancel all 111 of those waivers given to companies & unions. If it's so great everyone should be getting it, no exceptions.
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:36:31am |
re: #378 NJDhockeyfan
If ObamaCare© is so great, Congress should get it as well as the rest of the government employees (except the President & VP). They should also cancel all 111 of those waivers given to companies & unions. If it's so great everyone should be getting it, no exceptions.
the original plan was to reverse your concept and give the care congress people enjoy to all.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:45:48am |
Bomb Threat at Ohio State
I've got a suspect for them, I know a know it all pain in the ass who loves the University of Michigan.
| 381 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:47:45am |
re: #379 wozzablog
the original plan was to reverse your concept and give the care congress people enjoy to all.
Then why did the people who wrote the bill exempt themselves & Congress from it?
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:48:24am |
re: #376 NJDhockeyfan
Slap Shot was on HDNet last night. What a great movie.
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Taqyia2Me Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:49:15am |
re: #379 wozzablog
the original plan was to reverse your concept and give the care congress people enjoy to all.
Funny how things change once the rubber hits the road.
Check out how legislatures' pensions happen to always be fully funded while government workers and Social Security funds are not...
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:50:18am |
re: #383 Taqyia2Me
It was nice to see McConnell choke out his statement against earmarks yesterday. That one had to hurt.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:54:22am |
re: #382 RogueOne
Slap Shot was on HDNet last night. What a great movie.
"Jesus, what did the old man trade for these assholes, a used puck bag? "
~ Johnny Upton
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:54:36am |
OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!
The last piece of Banana Bread has been eaten!
//It had *walnuts* in it, too!
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:54:52am |
Fight!
GOP is urged to avoid social issues
[Link: www.politico.com...]
A gay conservative group and some Tea Party leaders are campaigning to keep social issues off the Republican agenda.In a letter to be released Monday, the group GOProud and leaders from groups like the Tea Party Patriots and the New American Patriots, will urge Republicans in the House and Senate to keep their focus on shrinking the government.
Social conservatives strike back at gay-Tea Party alliance
[Link: dailycaller.com...]
A key social conservative group is striking back at a fledgling alliance between a gay right wing organization and 15 leaders of local Tea Party chapters across the country who urged Republican leaders Monday to avoid social issues.Citing a memo sent last week to Republican leadership, Concerned Women for America (CWA) CEO Penny Nance argued that social conservatives’ priorities for the next Congress could be easily embraced by those focused on spending issues.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:56:14am |
re: #387 RogueOne
Fight!
GOP is urged to avoid social issues
Social conservatives strike back at gay-Tea Party alliance
Let's get it on!
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:57:18am |
re: #385 NJDhockeyfan
"Jesus, what did the old man trade for these assholes, a used puck bag? "
~ Johnny Upton
"Now, they give you one phone call. See they book you, and then the give you one phone call."
"Call the pizza man!"
| 390 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 6:59:12am |
re: #388 SteveC
Let's get it on!
How funny would it be if tea partiers and gay groups manage to get Mitch Daniels elected?
| 391 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:00:55am |
re: #389 RogueOne
"Now, they give you one phone call. See they book you, and then the give you one phone call."
"Call the pizza man!"
Reg, Reg, that reminds me. I was coachin' in Omaha in 1948 and Eddie Shore sends me this guy who was a terrible masturbator, you know, couldn't control himself. Why, he would get deliberate penalties so he could get over in the penalty box all by himself and damned if he wouldn't... you know...
~ McGrath
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cliffster Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:01:37am |
re: #387 RogueOne
now now, silly man - tea party is all about gay hate and racism. here's your keith olbermann pull-string doll.. let's keep moving along...
| 393 |
RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:03:32am |
Quick errand to run, BBIAB. Carry on without me.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:05:35am |
Hello Lizards.
I can't believe how preoccupied I am with trivial bullshit, going through my closet to pick out a freaking outfit for the funeral that is going to get torn up. I know that my mom will not be happy with what I'm wearing but hey, it's not a freaking fashion show.
I went to work this morning to pick up my ID badge and then they sent me home. I am still in shutdown mode.
I have 4 hours before I have to leave for the airport.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:07:02am |
Damn....
Not surprisingly, the abandonment rate has since climbed. In the first six months of this year, it nearly hit 10 percent of all new scrips for brand-name meds.
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prairiefire Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:07:25am |
re: #394 Alouette
{{Alouette}} I am very sorry about your loss. I enjoyed reading your posts about your dad. Have a safe trip.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:07:50am |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:07:57am |
re: #394 Alouette
Hello Lizards.
I can't believe how preoccupied I am with trivial bullshit, going through my closet to pick out a freaking outfit for the funeral that is going to get torn up. I know that my mom will not be happy with what I'm wearing but hey, it's not a freaking fashion show.
I went to work this morning to pick up my ID badge and then they sent me home. I am still in shutdown mode.
I have 4 hours before I have to leave for the airport.
So very sorry, Alouette. Such a sad and trying time.
I saw the page you did for your father - what a wonderful tribute!
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Jadespring Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:11:47am |
re: #394 Alouette
Hello Lizards.
I can't believe how preoccupied I am with trivial bullshit, going through my closet to pick out a freaking outfit for the funeral that is going to get torn up. I know that my mom will not be happy with what I'm wearing but hey, it's not a freaking fashion show.
I went to work this morning to pick up my ID badge and then they sent me home. I am still in shutdown mode.
I have 4 hours before I have to leave for the airport.
Oh no :( I haven't been here for a few days. So sorry to hear about your loss. Sending my love and prayers for you and your family.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:12:03am |
re: #394 Alouette
so sorry, alouette. may strength and peace be yours.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:17:54am |
re: #394 Alouette
Hello Lizards.
I can't believe how preoccupied I am with trivial bullshit, going through my closet to pick out a freaking outfit for the funeral that is going to get torn up. I know that my mom will not be happy with what I'm wearing but hey, it's not a freaking fashion show.
I went to work this morning to pick up my ID badge and then they sent me home. I am still in shutdown mode.
I have 4 hours before I have to leave for the airport.
My parents are still alive so I have no idea what you are going through but I wish you the best during this time.
When my grandfather died it really affected my mother in a big way. She was very close with her father and was 'daddy's girl'. After the funeral we went to my uncle's house for food & drinks. It was interesting to see his children all there telling funny stories about him. They spent the day remembering all the good times with their father.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:20:39am |
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:26:24am |
My dad never wanted to talk about his war experiences. He insisted that he was just a REMF on a supply ship who never saw any action. Then I learned about Leyte Gulf and other actions of the USS White Plains. My dad always talked about his cousin the war hero, who survived the Bataan Death March.
In those days, everybody was a war hero whether they wanted to be or not.
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Ericus58 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:27:02am |
re: #394 Alouette
Hello Lizards.
I can't believe how preoccupied I am with trivial bullshit, going through my closet to pick out a freaking outfit for the funeral that is going to get torn up. I know that my mom will not be happy with what I'm wearing but hey, it's not a freaking fashion show.
I went to work this morning to pick up my ID badge and then they sent me home. I am still in shutdown mode.
I have 4 hours before I have to leave for the airport.
Thinking of you, Dear.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:35:11am |
re: #401 NJDhockeyfan
My parents are still alive so I have no idea what you are going through but I wish you the best during this time.
When my grandfather died it really affected my mother in a big way. She was very close with her father and was 'daddy's girl'. After the funeral we went to my uncle's house for food & drinks. It was interesting to see his children all there telling funny stories about him. They spent the day remembering all the good times with their father.
My mom is very tough. She is holding it all together. If she goes into a shutdown, it will not be pretty.
We are definitely going to celebrate my father's life. So far, 7 of my 9 kids are heading for LA, including my daughter in Israel, though she may not make it for the funeral.
It says in the Book of Psalms: "Then our mouths shall be full of laughter." Our sages taught: At the Resurrection, there will be a great sound of laughter. What does that mean? A man who passed away at a very young age, will see his own son who lived to a great old age, and the young father and elderly son will embrace with laughter.
My grandfather, who passed away in 1918 at the age of 29, will see his 91-year-old son. He never saw his son during his lifetime.
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AK-47% Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:43:50am |
re: #395 SteveC
Damn...
Do we need a government to come and tell us us which presecriptions to abandon and which not? This is about FREE CHOICE!!!
People should be able to decide for themselves where their priorities lie, for example, whether they would rather eat, pay rent, or pay for their prescriptions.
Keep your government hands off my personal choices!!!
/
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:44:24am |
re: #402 Alouette
Again, I send along my condolences. 29 grandkids is quite the legacy and he must have been proud of all of you.
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 7:45:05am |
re: #406 ralphieboy
Do we need a government to come and tell us us which presecriptions to abandon and which not? This is about FREE CHOICE!!!
People should be able to decide for themselves where their priorities lie, for example, whether they would rather eat, pay rent, or pay for their prescriptions.
Keep your government hands off my personal choices!!!
/
FREEMARKETS FTW!!!!!
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Ericus58 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:21:00am |
Democrats reveal themselves as the Party of No on deficit reduction
[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]
"By offering up their joint recommendation last week for balancing the budget, the co-chairmen of President Barack Obama's fiscal commission didn't solve our deficit problem once and for all, or clear a path through the political thickets facing would-be budget cutters. But Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson performed a valuable public service nonetheless: The reaction to their proposals demonstrated that when it comes to addressing the long-term challenges facing this country, the Democrats, too, can play the Party of No."
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:27:16am |
Govt urges youth to say 'non' to English words
In an attempt to rekindle love for the French language among the youth, France’s junior minister for cooperation and Francophonie awarded six students on Tuesday for their entries to ‘Francomot’, an online students-only competition to find the ideal replacements for popular English words in everyday French.
[snip]
To replace “buzz” – as in “online buzz” - the competition jury selected “ramdam”, a word originating from Arabic (evidently considered more Francophone than English in this case).
“Chat” was vanquished by two entries – “eblabla” and “tchatche”. Joyandet noted that the English word, like all the others in the competition, already had an official French alternative. France’s Commission of Terminology, a Ministry of Culture panel, notes “dialogue” (which has the same meaning in French and in English) as the alternative to chat.
“Tuning” – as in tuning cars – became “bolidage”. “Newsletter” was foiled by “infolettre” and “talk” was valiantly ousted by “débat”, which indeed means "debate" in English.
[snip]
On the jury were a dozen French personalities including the rapper MC Solaar (praised as “a dextrous handler of words” by Joyandet). Importantly, it was headed by Jean-Christophe Rufin, a member of the Académie Francaise - a venerable and peculiarly French institution, charged officially with the guardianship of the language.
(the whole article at...)
[Link: www.france24.com...]
On the jury were a dozen French personalities including the rapper MC Solaar (praised as “a dextrous handler of words” by Joyandet). Importantly, it was headed by Jean-Christophe Rufin, a member of the Académie Francaise - a venerable and peculiarly French institution, charged officially with the guardianship of the language.
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AK-47% Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:29:31am |
Have the French adopted "refudiation" as a verb yet?
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:30:28am |
re: #411 Ericus58
Done nothing except reduce the Bush deficit from 1.4trillion to 1.2 trillion in the first year.
The budget commission proposals disproportionately affected the poor and middle class. Big business and the rich get much more of a pass.
If everyone was being asked to sacrifice it'd have more momentum. It doesn't.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:31:15am |
Ukraine's topless group widens political role
Brazenly provocative, the bare-breasted young women of Femen are becoming an eye-catching -- if unsolicited -- fixture on Ukraine's political scene.
Anna Hutsol, Femen's spikey-haired 26-year-old leader, says she commands a small army of 300 mainly student activists ready to peel off in public to support Ukrainian women's rights.
As the group broadens its activities to embrace wider causes, she says Femen is undeterred by increased police action. "We plan more protests this year," Hutsol told Reuters.
Femen activists caused a minor diplomatic stir last month during a visit by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin with a topless street protest in which they made raunchy references to his personal life.
Last week two semi-clad Femen members disrupted an Iranian exhibition with a protest in support of an Iranian woman held in jail for adultery and complicity of murder.
If a boob party is formed here in the US I will support it.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:35:49am |
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:37:53am |
re: #415 NJDhockeyfan
Ukraine's topless group widens political role
If a boob party is formed here in the US I will support it.
That would be the Bra Wing.
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AK-47% Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:39:37am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:39:41am |
Femen's LJ (NVSFW):
[Link: femen.livejournal.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:40:22am |
Got 20 in Pakistan...
Suspected US missiles kill 20 in NW Pakistan
Suspected American missiles slammed into a home and a speeding vehicle near the Afghan border Tuesday, killing 20 alleged militants as the U.S. ramps up unmanned drone strikes in northwestern Islamist strongholds, Pakistani officials said.
The eighth missile attack this month in Pakistan killed targets in North Waziristan, a mountainous tribal region that is a base for Taliban and al-Qaida-linked fighters responsible for many of the attacks on U.S. and NATO forces across the border in Afghanistan.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:41:27am |
re: #411 Ericus58
re: #414 wozzablog
Worthy of a SNIP
Their proposals certainly weren't flawless, but they did manage to include good ideas from right and left alike. And it's illuminating, and very depressing, that Democrats were so immediately outraged by a plan that reduces corporate welfare, makes Social Security more progressive, slashes the defense budget, raises the tax rate on millionaires' summer homes — and does all of this while capping the government's share of gross domestic product, not at some Scrooge-like minimum but at the highest level in modern American history.
Needless to say, none of the liberal lawmakers attacking the Simpson-Bowles proposals offered alternative blueprints for restoring America's solvency. The Democratic Party has plans for many things, but a balanced budget isn't one of them.
But pondering what Nancy Pelosi and her compatriots are rejecting gives us a pretty good sense of what they're for. It's a world where the government perpetually warps the real-estate and health-care marketplaces, subsidizing McMansions and gold-plated insurance plans to the tune of billions every year. It's a world where federal jobs are sacrosanct, but the private sector has to labor under one of the higher corporate tax rates in the developed West. It's a world where the Social Security retirement age never budges, no matter how high average life expectancy climbs. And it's a world where federal spending rises inexorably to 25 percent of GDP and beyond, and taxes rise with it.
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Ericus58 Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:44:25am |
re: #414 wozzablog
Done nothing except reduce the Bush deficit from 1.4trillion to 1.2 trillion in the first year.
The budget commission proposals disproportionately affected the poor and middle class. Big business and the rich get much more of a pass.
If everyone was being asked to sacrifice it'd have more momentum. It doesn't.
"Liberals defended this knee-jerk response on the grounds that the commissioners' vision, ostensibly bipartisan, was actually tilted toward Republican priorities. And it's true that Bowles and Simpson proposed more spending cuts than tax increases overall. But most of the programs and tax breaks that they suggested trimming — from farm subsidies to Defense Department bloat and the home-mortgage tax deduction — represent the American welfare state at its absolute worst. And the duo went out of their way to avoid balancing the budget on the backs of the poor. (Social Security, for instance, would be strengthened through a mix of tax increases and benefit cuts for wealthier seniors; retirees close to the poverty line would see their benefits increase.)"
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:48:40am |
re: #421 Rightwingconspirator
As long as everyone has to take their share of the medicine. Particularly out of date defense spending projects and those earning over 250k would make a dent (the later to the tune of some 70bn or so), and i believe are Democratic proposals.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:49:05am |
And in this video they, uh, attack Iran's regime and call for democracy:
[Link: femen.livejournal.com...]
Moar!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:51:24am |
Paris mimes to remind raucous revellers to be quiet
Starting this spring, Paris will send out squads of red-nosed mimes and clowns to nudge punters into keeping the noise down, an alternative to sending in the police.[Link: www.france24.com...]
This will never work. The sound of gunshots popping off mimes will be much louder than people partying on the street.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:53:46am |
re: #423 wozzablog
Two quibbles-Nobody at or very near the poverty line sees any increased taxes, bad enough sales taxes are high.
Two-Separate the entrepreneurial small biz rich from that $250,00-$1,000,000, and act tax accordingly.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:54:39am |
Republicans oppose national security....
Amid airport anger, GOP takes aim at screening
Mica, one of the authors of the original TSA bill, has recently written to the heads of more than 150 airports nationwide suggesting they opt out of TSA screening. "When the TSA was established, it was never envisioned that it would become a huge, unwieldy bureaucracy which was soon to grow to 67,000 employees," Mica writes. "As TSA has grown larger, more impersonal, and administratively top-heavy, I believe it is important that airports across the country consider utilizing the opt-out provision provided by law."
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:57:07am |
Oh, shit -
Riots in Haiti, UN troops may have fired (Report from AlJazeera, of all places!)
Another version of the report (Click the link and read the protest sign)
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:57:25am |
re: #422 Ericus58
From Krugman in the NYT.
what the co-chairmen are proposing is a mixture of tax cuts and tax increases — tax cuts for the wealthy, tax increases for the middle class. They suggest eliminating tax breaks that, whatever you think of them, matter a lot to middle-class Americans — the deductibility of health benefits and mortgage interest — and using much of the revenue gained thereby, not to reduce the deficit, but to allow sharp reductions in both the top marginal tax rate and the corporate tax rate.
It will take time to crunch the numbers here, but this proposal clearly represents a major transfer of income upward, from the middle class to a small minority of wealthy Americans. And what does any of this have to do with deficit reduction?
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:58:26am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
Heh. Hyperbole rules the day on TSA screening. Never mind that the screening began under Bush and was continued by Obama Admin - and that the FBS are now more widespread after initial testing under the Bush Admin. The anger is about who is doing the implementing - even though it's the same plan outlined under Bush.
Fact is that the FBS impose far less radiation on people than a transcontinental flight would. Depending on the FBS model, it doesn't even use ionizing radiation, which is what could increase risks of cancer.
Then, there's the pilots opposition - which is really about their insistence not to be screened at all.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:00:44am |
Breaking: U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel convicted of 12 of 13 ethics charges
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:00:44am |
re: #429 wozzablog
From Krugman in the NYT.
Another recent quote from Krugman...
During the discussion, which was about the Deficit Commission's recent recommendations on cutting expenses, Krugman made his statement in response to when discussion would take place concerning the commission's recommendations. He stated, 'Some years down the pike, we're going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sale's taxes. Its going to be the; we're actually going to take Medicare under control and we're going to have to get some additional revenue from a VAT.'
[Link: www.examiner.com...]
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:02:00am |
re: #426 Rightwingconspirator
from the leftist propagandists at Business Week.
[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
Proponents of the budget proposal claim that less than 3% of small business owners have net household income above $250,000, the threshold over which tax rates go up under Obama's plan.
But tax analyses show that the percentage is likely to be on the lower side, and those taxed at higher rates—if the budget is approved as presented—are unlikely to be those most people think of when they hear "small business owner.""Most small business owners aren't in the top two marginal tax rates. In my opinion, there's some misunderstanding in these political debates that the people who'll be affected are middle-income Americans who run mom-and-pop stores," says Benjamin Harris, senior research associate at the Tax Policy Center, a bipartisan venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution that aims to provide independent analyses of current and longer-term tax issues.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:03:12am |
re: #430 lawhawk
I see most of the people complaining want Israeli style security. as far as I can tell Jeruasalem and Tel Aviv airports use full body scans on incoming and outgoing passengers, along with traffic checkpoint outside the airport. I think the just like the racial profiling aspect.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:03:26am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
Republicans oppose national security...
Amid airport anger, GOP takes aim at screening
Letter from Charles Jeszeck, Director, Homeland Security and Justice Issues to John Mica in May:
[...]
TSA has taken steps to strengthen passenger checkpoint screening procedures to enhance the detection of prohibited items, as well as to make checking of passenger names against the terrorist watchlist records more effective in detecting persons who may pose a threat to aviation security. These initiatives have been intended to improve aviation security, including that of airports and their terminals, which are often intermodal in nature. While making progress, TSA and other federal agencies have faced challenges in effectively implementing certain programs integral to ensuring aviation security.
[...]
On March 17, 2010, in an analysis of the December 25, 2009, attempted attack on Northwest flight 253, we reported that while TSA has taken actions towards strengthening other areas of aviation security, it continues to face challenges involving its efforts to procure and deploy advanced imaging technology (AIT) (formerly called the Whole Body Imager). We found that in response to the attack, TSA had revised the AIT procurement and deployment strategy, increasing the planned deployment of AITs from 878 to 1,800 units and using AITs as a primary—instead of a secondary—screening measure where feasible. While officials said AITs performed as well as physical pat downs in operational tests, it remains unclear whether the AIT would have detected the weapon used in the December 2009 incident based on the preliminary information we have received. We are currently assessing TSA’s operational testing of the AIT.
[...]
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:03:57am |
re: #432 Walter L. Newton
I eat economists sarcasm for breakfast. They are a dry dry lot.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:06:14am |
Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY) Convicted of Ethics Violations
Just in!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:07:14am |
re: #436 wozzablog
I eat economists sarcasm for breakfast. They are a dry dry lot.
Klugman's comment was not sarcasm... it was his educated answer to a serious question.
Good try... play again.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:07:45am |
re: #430 lawhawk
Fact is that the FBS impose far less radiation on people than a transcontinental flight would. Depending on the FBS model, it doesn't even use ionizing radiation, which is what could increase risks of cancer.
I talked to my pacemaker tech about the backscatter scanners just the other day - they are recommending that those of us with pacers skip the scanners and opt for the patdown. There just hasn't been enough testing with pacemakers yet to give a definitive Yes/No answer, so they choose to err on the side of caution.
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Donna Ballard Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:08:25am |
re: #437 Floral Giraffe
Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY) Convicted of Ethics Violations
Just in!
Whew Hoo! 'Bout damn time!
P.S. Good Morning Flower Lady, how the heck are you? :)
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:08:25am |
re: #434 Killgore Trout
Israel's security is a layered approach and they key in on suspicious behavior. They ask detailed questions about itineraries and destinations, and they're highly trained to discern behavior that raises red flags.
Those that raise the red flags are subject to further screening.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:09:56am |
re: #430 lawhawk
Heh. Hyperbole rules the day on TSA screening. Never mind that the screening began under Bush and was continued by Obama Admin - and that the FBS are now more widespread after initial testing under the Bush Admin. The anger is about who is doing the implementing - even though it's the same plan outlined under Bush.
Fact is that the FBS impose far less radiation on people than a transcontinental flight would. Depending on the FBS model, it doesn't even use ionizing radiation, which is what could increase risks of cancer.
Then, there's the pilots opposition - which is really about their insistence not to be screened at all.
About 100 times less radiation exposure than a 1600KM flight. Ironic about the pilots and aircrews. They have one of the highest radiation exposures in the workplace already. The AIT scanner would only add a miniscule amount to their exposure. Of course it is debatable that aircrews have to be screened as frequently.
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:10:32am |
re: #438 Walter L. Newton
So he was being a provocateur........big whoop. like we don't have enough of them around here...........
Medicare and Medicaid decide what they’re willing to pay for — not really death panels, of course
[Link: krugman.blogs.nytimes.com...]
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iossarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:12:09am |
re: #443 wozzablog
So he was being a provocateur...big whoop. like we don't have enough of them around here...
[Link: krugman.blogs.nytimes.com...]
OMG SALES TAX AND MEDICAL EFFECTIVENESS STUDIES JUST LIKE THEY HAVE IN COMMIE ENGLAND I AM LITERALLY WETTING MYSELF WITH FEAR!!!
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:13:10am |
re: #444 iossarian
oh, you should be. you should be.
i have - literally - been sentenced to death by a panel about 5 times now.
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iossarian Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:13:58am |
re: #445 wozzablog
oh, you should be. you should be.
i have - literally - been sentenced to death by a panel about 5 times now.
It's awful - I had to pay tax on a jar of mayonnaise I bought last week.
TAX I TELL YOU!!!
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:16:11am |
re: #446 iossarian
It's awful - I had to pay tax on a jar of mayonnaise I bought last week.
TAX I TELL YOU!!!
If it wasn't a low fat mayo then the tax they took will go to looking after the roads the ambulance must travel over for your coronary.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:16:47am |
re: #446 iossarian
It's awful - I had to pay tax on a jar of mayonnaise I bought last week.
TAX I TELL YOU!!!
Back in granddad's day he had to pay tax on a box of thumbtacks.
AND HE WAS DAMN GLAD TO GET THEM, TOO!
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:16:47am |
Democrats' losses ran wide, deep
Republicans have already gained as many as 60 seats in Congress, but when GOP gains are looked at on a state-by-state basis, the bloody picture for Democrats nationwide becomes even more gruesome. Several state legislatures made historic transitions to Republican hands — some for the first time since the 19th century — and nearly an entire generation of state Democrats saw its ranks obliterated.
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Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:17:49am |
re: #448 SteveC
Back in granddad's day he had to pay tax on a box of thumbtacks.
AND HE WAS DAMN GLAD TO GET THEM, TOO!
luxury that..........
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:17:56am |
Before "x-ray" scanning became politically incorrect:
2.11.2008
Why We Do What We Do: Additional Screening for People with Hip Replacements
We've received many comments and questions from people who have had hip replacements and other metal implanted in their bodies for medical reasons. Many want to be able to present a letter from their doctor, some type of medical card, or even an x-ray to confirm that it's for an authentic medical reason that they're alarming the metal detector.
We understand that this is an inconvenience to travelers who repeatedly have to go through additional security measures because of a medical condition, but we just can't accept a letter, a card or an x-ray. I’ll explain some of the reasons.
This is a true story: a passenger told a security officer that he knew he was going to set the metal detector off because he had a pin in his hip. He hoped the officer would give him a pass on additional screening. Instead, the security officer followed TSA guidelines patted down the passenger. Guess what? He found a gun strapped to the passenger’s leg. So, if the security officer had just taken his word for it, a gun would have gotten on the plane—and maybe even been in the seat next to you. Things like this happen all the time, more than you would think.
We know those of you with genuine medical conditions are not the problem. And we realize the additional screening makes your checkpoint experience a frustrating one. But if a passenger alarms the metal detector, our security officers must resolve the alarm or the passenger can't get on the plane. We want to be thorough and protect the safety of everyone. No officer wants to be the one to let a gun, knife or bomb get through to an airplane.
If terrorists (or people who just HAVE to take their gun or knife with them on the flight) thought they could get by with a letter from a doctor or medical ID card, they'd quickly find out a way to make fake ones. How can we tell the difference in just a few seconds in a busy checkpoint line? It may make it a bit easier for you—but it makes it way too easy for them. Unfortunately, the pat down is currently the only way to resolve the situation.
Like you, we’re not satisfied with this result either. So, we’ve been busy exploring less invasive technology solutions that will allow officers to distinguish passengers with metallic medical implants from those trying to sneak weapons through the checkpoint. Last year, we began field testing several different types of whole body imagers in Phoenix, Arizona. Some passengers who were required to undergo additional screening were given the option of going through a portal instead of a pat-down. We've gotten great feedback from passengers on the technology, so we plan to continue testing the technology in other airports like JFK in New York, LAX in California, and others later this Spring. If you happen to go through portal in Phoenix or other airports, write back and let us know what you think.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:19:29am |
re: #435 Gus 802
There are no guarantees with security.
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:22:28am |
re: #456 Gus 802
What's that?
You're not supposed to talk about your medical conditions. It's private information - your medical profile is private info. They are huge with that in my office. If you say you have a cold, they scream HIPAA at you.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:22:39am |
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:23:52am |
re: #458 wrenchwench
Only the replacement HIPAAs.
LOL
But seriously, it's no one's business if you have metal in your body. I mean, I don't know if there's any way of getting around telling them. There probably isn't.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:24:11am |
re: #449 NJDhockeyfan
uh oh, here comes sweeping legislation banning gays and forcing women into the kitchen.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:24:30am |
re: #456 Gus 802
What's that?
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It's the 1996 law that (is supposed to) gives you more privacy concerning your medical records.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:24:42am |
re: #459 marjoriemoon
LOL
But seriously, it's no one's business if you have metal in your body. I mean, I don't know if there's any way of getting around telling them. There probably isn't.
Well. If they think it's a gun they'll have to do a pat down search.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:25:17am |
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:26:44am |
re: #457 marjoriemoon
You're not supposed to talk about your medical conditions. It's private information - your medical profile is private info. They are huge with that in my office. If you say you have a cold, they scream HIPAA at you.
HIPPA is the law that won't let me videotape an interview with a Cardiologist in his/her office, lest the camera catch a glimpse of a patient walking by and violate their HIPPA rights.
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:27:32am |
re: #461 SteveC
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It's the 1996 law that (is supposed to) gives you more privacy concerning your medical records.
If you take your friend to the ER, for example, you basically have to drop them off and that's all you can do. Unless you're a relative, they will not communicate anything to you. I've had this happen to me. I had to locate my friend's mother on a Saturday afternoon in NJ, so they could call her, tell her what my friend's issues were and then she called me, all the while while I sat in the waiting room of the ER.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:28:41am |
re: #465 marjoriemoon
If you take your friend to the ER, for example, you basically have to drop them off and that's all you can do. Unless you're a relative, they will not communicate anything to you. I've had this happen to me. I had to locate my friend's mother on a Saturday afternoon in NJ, so they could call her, tell her what my friend's issues were and then she called me, all the while while I sat in the waiting room of the ER.
So if I rush my friend to the ER after having witnessed him experience a seizure they would ignore me?
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:29:54am |
re: #466 Gus 802
So if I rush my friend to the ER after having witnessed him experience a seizure they would ignore me?
They'd tell you to GOMER!*
* Get Out of My Emergency Room!
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:29:55am |
re: #462 Gus 802
Well. If they think it's a gun they'll have to do a pat down search.
Indeed, but the whole thing is ridiculous. I can't find out any info on my friend if I take them to the ER - as a good friend would do in an emergency - but I can blurt my health issues to a bunch of strangers at TSA.
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:31:09am |
re: #466 Gus 802
So if I rush my friend to the ER after having witnessed him experience a seizure they would ignore me?
They aren't supposed to give you any info if you're not a relative. They actually told me to leave the room and go into another room until they could contact a relative. I called his mother and told her to call them.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:32:38am |
re: #466 Gus 802
They'd take whatever information you have that can contribute to the person's care - such as what he or she was doing when they had the seizures, but they would not release any condition information to you because HIPAA protects the following:
* Information your doctors, nurses, and other health care providers put in your medical record
* Conversations your doctor has about your care or treatment with nurses and others
* Information about you in your health insurer’s computer system
* Billing information about you at your clinic
* Most other health information about you held by those who must follow these laws
In other words, once the doctor begins a course of treatment, that information is confidential and protected. You have to be an immediate family or authorized person to obtain said health information.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:32:38am |
re: #469 marjoriemoon
They aren't supposed to give you any info if you're not a relative. They actually told me to leave the room and go into another room until they could contact a relative. I called his mother and told her to call them.
OK So I'll assume you could give them symptoms and such but they can't say anything to you.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:35:45am |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
There are no guarantees with security.
There could be if they armed all the passengers with ax handles. If someone tries to set their shorts on fire the passengers can beat them about the head and shoulders.
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:36:37am |
re: #471 Gus 802
OK So I'll assume you could give them symptoms and such but they can't say anything to you.
Right. What lawhawk said upthread. I brought my friend in. I told what happened and they asked if I was a relative. When I said no, they were done with me.
The problem came in when they wanted to know about certain meds they could or not give him. They wouldn't discuss it with me, even though I knew some of this information. They would only talk to a relative or spouse (there was no spouse).
Another same-sex marriage issue, btw. (not to be totally OT heh)
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:37:34am |
Yippee! Soon after the election the wingnuts were claiming victory and the rise of the DOW due to the election of Republicans. But it was, as noted, because the Fed infused 600 billion dollars. Today, the DOW is tanking and the wingnuts are blaming it on that very same move by the Fed.
Fascinating.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:37:35am |
re: #471 Gus 802
OK So I'll assume you could give them symptoms and such but they can't say anything to you.
Pretty much. They can discuss anything not pertaining to the treatment of the other person. Then they have to give you the "We aren't allowed to discuss Mr. Smith's diagnosis or course of treatment." line.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:38:27am |
re: #476 SteveC
Pretty much. They can discuss anything not pertaining to the treatment of the other person. Then they have to give you the "We aren't allowed to discuss Mr. Smith's diagnosis or course of treatment." line.
OK That seams reasonable. I guess. You think it's OK?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:39:27am |
I wanted to reach thru my radio and slap Rush this morning.
He was going on about how various hunger relief programs were having problems this year. It was a big joke to him. "Who hasn't been hungry? Ask anyone on a diet. They're hungry all the time."
You fat fucking bastard.
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:40:44am |
re: #476 SteveC
Pretty much. They can discuss anything not pertaining to the treatment of the other person. Then they have to give you the "We aren't allowed to discuss Mr. Smith's diagnosis or course of treatment." line.
I just seems ridiculous to me regarding TSA when a total stranger is allowed access (basically) to your medical history and your caring neighbor isn't.
I can understand signed doctor's notes won't cut it, but if someone requests a pat down, they should be given a pat down and no questions should be asked about it.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:40:55am |
re: #475 Gus 802
Yippee! Soon after the election the wingnuts were claiming victory and the rise of the DOW due to the election of Republicans. But it was, as noted, because the Fed infused
600 billion dollars. Today, the DOW is tanking and the wingnuts are blaming it on that very same move by the Fed.Fascinating.
Wait. It wasn't 600 billion. I'd have to check the exact figure.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:42:34am |
re: #474 Taqyia2Me
Doesn't strike me as "Portable" at all.
The other part of HIPPA gives you rights related to Group insurance plans, that's where the "portable" comes from.
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Gus Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:43:50am |
re: #480 Gus 802
Wait. It wasn't 600 billion. I'd have to check the exact figure.
Nevermind. It was 600 billion. Damn decaf tea.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:45:11am |
re: #477 Gus 802
OK That seams reasonable. I guess. You think it's OK?
Not particularly. Everyone here knows I have a heart defect. The chance of something happening to me is unlikely, but it's higher than the average person. I can't pick who I'm hanging out with when/if I happen to have a problem. :(
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Interesting Times Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:46:17am |
re: #460 cliffster
uh oh, here comes sweeping legislation banning gays and forcing women into the kitchen.
Lesbians Stopped From Graduating
18-year-old Melissa McKenzie said she was kicked out of Del City High School in Del City, Okla., at the beginning of the semester when the principal found out she was living with her girlfriend instead of her family.
Oklahomophobia FTW!
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:50:14am |
re: #483 SteveC
Not particularly. Everyone here knows I have a heart defect. The chance of something happening to me is unlikely, but it's higher than the average person. I can't pick who I'm hanging out with when/if I happen to have a problem. :(
The horrible thing, is that it doesn't even matter. Very frustrating. It was such a misery for me with my friend. I didn't have his mother's number handy. Do you have your friends' mothers' phone numbers? No.
So first, I had to call a variety of people just to get the number. Then I had to leave her a lovely message that went something like, "You don't know me, but I'm you're son's neighbor and he blah blah blah." Yeesh. Then wait for her to get the message and get back to me. Meanwhile he's lying on a gurney and they did nothing for the 2 hours it took her to get back to me.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:50:16am |
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:50:51am |
re: #479 marjoriemoon
I can understand signed doctor's notes won't cut it, but if someone requests a pat down, they should be given a pat down and no questions should be asked about it.
When I get to the first TSA gurard I hand him/her my ticket, ID, and pacemaker card. Then I say that I have a pacemaker and I would like to request a patdown.
I have noticed that when you have medical reason, (even if it is an "invisible disability") TSA tends to treat you gentler - more time to gather your stuff, a little more patient during the patdown routine. If you want a patdown just because you don't want to go through the metal detector or scanner, that's what you'll get - but it will be a doozy!
/ No one has touched my junk in quite a while. :(
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What, me worry? Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:53:27am |
re: #487 SteveC
When I get to the first TSA gurard I hand him/her my ticket, ID, and pacemaker card. Then I say that I have a pacemaker and I would like to request a patdown.
I have noticed that when you have medical reason, (even if it is an "invisible disability") TSA tends to treat you gentler - more time to gather your stuff, a little more patient during the patdown routine. If you want a patdown just because you don't want to go through the metal detector or scanner, that's what you'll get - but it will be a doozy!
/ No one has touched my junk in quite a while. :(
LOL It's a different world, isn't it and all the ironies that are included.
It's inevitable, I guess, that you have to give this info to TSA. I guess it's your choice to fly. Not so much your choice to keel over, but it is what it is.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:55:45am |
re: #484 publicityStunted
The original news story seems to be different than the Advocate:
[Link: www.news9.com...]
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SteveC Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:59:08am |
re: #488 marjoriemoon
LOL It's a different world, isn't it and all the ironies that are included.
It's inevitable, I guess, that you have to give this info to TSA. I guess it's your choice to fly. Not so much your choice to keel over, but it is what it is.
One of the "hooks" I use on my blog is that when I go to a Heart Conference to speak, I use my private plane - a red Gulfstream V named Heart Force One. TSA makes you wish you actually had your own plane! (Or a Netjet share!)
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