1 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:13:05pm |
Ladies and gentlemen the third and final LGF troll cat of the evening!
Tah-dah!
3 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:16:52pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
Ladies and gentlemen the third and final LGF troll cat of the evening!
[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]
Tah-dah!
Loves it.
4 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:19:02pm |
re: #3 Dark_Falcon
Loves it.
Thanks if you want Dark…
This Image
+ This page
Can let you make one that says more or less the same thing but in reverse to lampoon someone claiming their has to be a balance between that the Republicans have to be just as bad as the Democrats for foolish reasons…
5 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:19:10pm |
/OK… so maybe that is why health care insurance is sooo expensive?
6 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:19:59pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
Ladies and gentlemen the third and final LGF troll cat of the evening!
[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]
Tah-dah!
re: #3 Dark_Falcon
Loves it.
Must be kept handy. At the ready.
7 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:21:49pm |
8 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:22:22pm |
9 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:24:25pm |
re: #8 jamesfirecat
Huh that brings to mind an interesting question for a feature that I don’ t think Charles has made yet… is there a way to tell if who has favorited one of your posts?
Yeah, just click on the # (be it 4 or -40)
11 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:25:39pm |
re: #10 Stanley Sea
Just sent you a test.
oh, cool - are we downdinging jamesfirecat for science? i’m in/
12 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:26:42pm |
re: #10 Stanley Sea
Just sent you a test.
It either isn’t working or I’m not looking in the right place where is this “#” suppose to be?
13 | Interesting Times Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:26:46pm |
re: #9 Stanley Sea
Yeah, just click on the # (be it 4 or -40)
I don’t think he meant how to tell who updinged/downdinged your post, but who saved it as a Favorite (i.e. clicked the little heart icon)
14 | jaunte Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:27:50pm |
That video makes me want to go up to the top of a mountain again.
Have to wait for the snow to melt off.
15 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:29:32pm |
re: #13 publicityStunted
I don’t think he meant how to tell who updinged/downdinged your post, but who saved it as a Favorite (i.e. clicked the little heart icon)
Yeah that’s exactly what I’m talking about, and last time I checked there isn’t a way to do that, though obviously being “newish” to LGF I can’t claim to know all the nifty features Charles has made use of, but it’d be cool if you could tell when someone was so impressed by a post of yours they faved it, without them having to come out and tell you in a post…
16 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:32:47pm |
re: #12 jamesfirecat
It either isn’t working or I’m not looking in the right place where is this “#” suppose to be?
The actual number next to the - & + icons.
Is # already outdated?
17 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:33:30pm |
re: #13 publicityStunted
I don’t think he meant how to tell who updinged/downdinged your post, but who saved it as a Favorite (i.e. clicked the little heart icon)
Ohhh, totally misunderstood James. Sorry James! Favorited. That was the key word I totally blew past. ha
18 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:33:42pm |
re: #16 Stanley Sea
The actual number next to the - & + icons.
Is # already outdated?
Oh sorry I gotcha, that tells me what my karma value is for that post and who up or down dinged it, but I don’t think it tells me who if anyone has faved a post…
19 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:34:30pm |
re: #18 jamesfirecat
I’m kind of in idjit land right now. Bear w/me.
20 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:34:38pm |
Hmmm. I was wondering if i should pour myself a gin&tonic or wait for my wife to join me. Silly question. I can have one now and when she sits down with me.
Honestly. Where is my mind going?
22 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:40:27pm |
I have to say, John Simm as The Master has quickly made it to the top of my all time favorite villians list
How can you not like someone who has so much fun being evil?
23 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:40:46pm |
re: #14 jaunte
That video makes me want to go up to the top of a mountain again.
Have to wait for the snow to melt off.
Sandia Mt behind me….you can rent a dirt bike at the top, fly down a few thousand feet, the grab a chairlift back up…dig that
24 | jaunte Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:41:22pm |
re: #21 Stanley Sea
New Zappa bust in Baltimore:
flickr.com
25 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:41:30pm |
re: #21 Stanley Sea
Frank Zappa died on this day in 1993.
:(
I think Lennon was killed on the 8th….mucho sadness
26 | Interesting Times Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:42:04pm |
re: #15 jamesfirecat
I can’t claim to know all the nifty features Charles has made use of, but it’d be cool if you could tell when someone was so impressed by a post of yours they faved it
As far as I’m aware, that feature doesn’t exist, and I kind of doubt Charles would implement it since people can have other, less complimentary reasons for favoriting a post (e.g. “Ha ha, what a dumb comment, must save for posterity/put-down purposes” :P )
27 | jaunte Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:42:22pm |
re: #23 albusteve
I’ve been up there a while back, watching hang-gliders jump off in the other direction.
28 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:44:57pm |
Well I’m glad to see that all things considered my trio of LGF custom troll cats were a success. I may make some more later on if I notice that some statements are worthy of memetic levels of derision… in fact…
wait a moment just like Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy my triollogy is about to become blatantly misnamed….
29 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:46:21pm |
re: #27 jaunte
I’ve been up there a while back, watching hang-gliders jump off in the other direction.
I have to take all the tourists up when they visit…it’s pretty cool…my son really loves to go off the back on a bike…there are some spots in the Wasatch in Utah where they glide 30 miles downrange, turn and come back and genty land exactly where they took off
30 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:47:59pm |
re: #28 jamesfirecat
Well I’m glad to see that all things considered my trio of LGF custom troll cats were a success. I may make some more later on if I notice that some statements are worthy of memetic levels of derision… in fact…
wait a moment just like Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy my triollogy is about to become blatantly misnamed…
“This is the car park, you ordered a babe wash for your ship. Due to staff shortages, I am your babe.”
31 | jaunte Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:49:23pm |
re: #29 albusteve
It’s surprising to see someone glide off down into the desert off Sandia peak, and a few minutes later hear them ripping along above the ridge 50 feet overhead. Very cool place.
32 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:52:13pm |
Okay folks I thought of one more kind of post that routinely lands someone on the bottom 10 and so here is our very own LGF troll cat to respond to it with!
He just wants to get to the bottom of things after all….
33 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:52:49pm |
34 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:54:12pm |
re: #33 Killgore Trout
///Well it was a tax hike for those making more than $250k a year… you know the important people….
35 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:55:52pm |
re: #33 Killgore Trout
not only that, but i’m a ‘we shouldn’t automatically discredit a story based on the source’ sort of guy, and even I think that the WaTimes is about as reliable as the Weekly World News…
36 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:58:39pm |
re: #35 Aceofwhat?
not only that, but i’m a ‘we shouldn’t automatically discredit a story based on the source’ sort of guy, and even I think that the WaTimes is about as reliable as the Weekly World News…
I think it says something that the Moonie Times was the closest he could find to support his spin and even that wasn’t enough.
38 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:59:46pm |
Shooting the 3-Barrel Rapid-Fire Pole Cannon
39 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:01:57pm |
re: #7 brookly red
the thumb switch on the left side is the safety… thought you should know.
Nice thing about the newest weapons - blowguns - they aren’t saddled with silly things like safety switches.
40 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:02:12pm |
re: #38 Killgore Trout
Shooting the 3-Barrel Rapid-Fire Pole Cannon
[Video]
Hey, isn’t that the thing which the ming soldiers used on Deadliest Warrior?
41 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:02:53pm |
42 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:05:07pm |
re: #21 Stanley Sea
Frank Zappa died on this day in 1993.
:(
was this not also the last day for Lennon?
43 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:05:21pm |
re: #32 jamesfirecat
Okay folks I thought of one more kind of post that routinely lands someone on the bottom 10 and so here is our very own LGF troll cat to respond to it with!
[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]
He just wants to get to the bottom of things after all…
Cute cat, and a great use of LOLcat lingo and pics.
44 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:05:54pm |
45 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:07:21pm |
46 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:07:31pm |
re: #40 jamesfirecat
How about a butthurt trollcat featuring a cat licking its backside?
47 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:07:48pm |
re: #43 Dark_Falcon
Cute cat, and a great use of LOLcat lingo and pics.
Yeah can’t wait to see what LVQ has to say about it.
Either way my goal was to make it so that whenever one of the three calmly sighted trolling actions pops up (leaving Union Cat off of that least), no longer will we lizards be constrained with always coming up a witty retort, if instead of being forced to come up with a witty retort, we now have a stand by option ready.
Sort of like “Gaze” but in this case its more like “CAT!”
48 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:08:18pm |
49 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:09:36pm |
re: #46 Dark_Falcon
How about a butthurt trollcat featuring a cat licking its backside?
eh, i don’t know…i mean, i’m an aficionado of shapely backsides, but cat ass licking just leaves a little to be desired, you know/
50 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:10:02pm |
re: #48 JasonA
Taliban go boom.
http://www.slashgear.com/xm-25-airburst-smart-gun- fielded-on-us-troops-in-afghanistan-03117613/
you can run, but you can’t hide….I’ve been following the development of this bad boy
51 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:10:12pm |
re: #49 Aceofwhat?
eh, i don’t know…i mean, i’m an aficionado of shapely backsides, but cat ass licking just leaves a little to be desired, you know/
ewe
52 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:10:31pm |
re: #40 jamesfirecat
Hey, isn’t that the thing which the ming soldiers used on Deadliest Warrior?
I’m not sure. I assumed it was European.
53 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:11:09pm |
Here’s a good National Review article. It argues Abraham Lincoln as holding some of the views of today’s economic conservatives. Agree or disagree, it is good to see that national Review is holding the line and making sure that the GOP’s greatest hero remains respected and honored by his party.
54 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:07pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
I’m not sure. I assumed it was European.
I think the Chinese had the powder, Europe the iron….no doubt European
55 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:32pm |
56 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:47pm |
re: #48 JasonA
Taliban go boom.
http://www.slashgear.com/xm-25-airburst-smart-gun- fielded-on-us-troops-in-afghanistan-03117613/
One of those weapons that will redefine military doctrine.
58 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:13:29pm |
re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
One of those weapons that will redefine military doctrine.
FIX BAYONETS!
all over
59 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:13:48pm |
re: #57 albusteve
duty calls…hope I survive
holy shit, so do we.
what a queasy stomach reading of posts tonight. THANKS LGF.
60 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:13:50pm |
61 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:13pm |
re: #50 albusteve
you can run, but you can’t hide…I’ve been following the development of this bad boy
Yeah, it’s a great system. That the war has gone on this long is bad, but the good news is that we’ve been able to finally get our next-generation weapons into the fight. And the troops who use those weapons are kicking some serious Islamist ass.
62 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:22pm |
re: #54 albusteve
I think the Chinese had the powder, Europe the iron…no doubt European
My gun history is rusty. I think most of the Chinese gunpowder weapons of the era were mostly crude rockets.
63 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:41pm |
re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
One of those weapons that will redefine military doctrine.
military & doctrine are famous last words…
64 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:42pm |
65 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:15:13pm |
re: #46 Dark_Falcon
How about a butthurt trollcat featuring a cat licking its backside?
Sorry Dark, the cats I found all looked far too content and happy to be playing around with their back door…
Have a lgf troll dog instead!
66 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:03pm |
67 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:11pm |
re: #58 albusteve
FIX BAYONETS!
all over
No it’s not. Our troops still use the bayonet at times. Because the enemy does not fight well hand to hand, the bayonet still has a role to play.
68 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:17pm |
re: #63 brookly red
military & doctrine are famous last words…
Use of cover as a defense against incoming fire has been a pretty effectice doctrine for a few centuries. Against a squad based, programmable air burst weapon, not so much.
69 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:51pm |
70 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:17:15pm |
re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Use of cover as a defense against incoming fire has been a pretty effectice doctrine for a few centuries. Against a squad based, programmable air burst weapon, not so much.
we don’t need no stinking badges…
71 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:17:58pm |
re: #65 jamesfirecat
Sorry Dark, the cats I found all looked far too content and happy to be playing around with their back door…
Have a lgf troll dog instead!
[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]
Perfect! Thank you!
72 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:19:50pm |
re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Use of cover as a defense against incoming fire has been a pretty effectice doctrine for a few centuries. Against a squad based, programmable air burst weapon, not so much.
You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?
F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.
Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!
73 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:00pm |
re: #72 jamesfirecat
You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?
F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.
Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!
WHAT
74 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:31pm |
75 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:33pm |
re: #72 jamesfirecat
You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?
F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.
Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!
You always have to roll to wound, because a 1 never wounds.
Says the IG officer laughing off a lascannon shot.
76 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:49pm |
re: #72 jamesfirecat
You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?
F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.
Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!
Whoa, there guy. Come back to reality. Small steps, son, take small steps and you’ll be alright.
77 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:22:07pm |
Niiceee
Hope you aren’t at the game Charles.
BreakingNews
2 stabbed, 3 arrested during brawl among 50-75 fans before USC-UCLA game - latimes.com lat.ms
78 | Interesting Times Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:22:12pm |
re: #32 jamesfirecat
Okay folks I thought of one more kind of post that routinely lands someone on the bottom 10 and so here is our very own LGF troll cat to respond to it with!
[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]
He just wants to get to the bottom of things after all…
You should put all of these on a Page. Makes it that much easier to have them at the ready :)
79 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:23:43pm |
re: #76 b_sharp
Whoa, there guy. Come back to reality. Small steps, son, take small steps and you’ll be alright.
It’s Saturday nite… we reduce the meds. Mostly for the entertainment of the orderly s…
80 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:23:44pm |
re: #73 Stanley Sea
WHAT
i didn’t know either, if it makes you feel better…but i just chalked it up to james being james and rolled with it;)
81 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:24:20pm |
the unsinkable pygmy gecko
82 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:25:58pm |
re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You always have to roll to wound, because a 1 never wounds.
Says the IG officer laughing off a lascannon shot.
Damn you’re right.
Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…
83 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:26:12pm |
84 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:27:27pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
Damn you’re right.
Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…
James, your BS value is already through the roof.;P
85 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:27:42pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
Damn you’re right.
Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…
your BS value has peaked… sorry.
86 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:27:44pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
Damn you’re right.
Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…
well, i’ve never played Warhammer, but i think that i can state for the record that your range finger is definitely increasing your BS value/
87 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:28:04pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
the unsinkable pygmy gecko
[Video]
So it’s true: Charles really can walk on water!
89 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:28:40pm |
re: #83 brookly red
Council insists I remind you I am 3,000 miles away…
Your alibi is suspect, we know there is no range limit on mind control.
90 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:29:10pm |
91 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:29:13pm |
You know what I haven’t said today? (I’m going to say it till, whenever)
John McCain is either going senile or is one of the slimiest pols I’ve ever had the privilege to follow.
And I saw him at an event in 2000. Shook his damn slimy hand.
92 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:05pm |
re: #88 Aceofwhat?
wow…we were on that like rats on a cheeto
BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.
In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…
93 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:24pm |
re: #89 b_sharp
Your alibi is suspect, we know there is no range limit on mind control.
shut up & send the check…
94 | jaunte Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:33pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
Someone is going to figure out a hydrophobic material for raincoats, etc. based on that gecko skin.
96 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:49pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
the unsinkable pygmy gecko
[Video]
Attenborough, no I don’t think so, but the voice!!
97 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:31:37pm |
re: #92 jamesfirecat
BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.
In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…
BS in the here and now… well I hate to be the one to have to tell you.
98 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:09pm |
re: #92 jamesfirecat
BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.
In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…
Herp for the Derp God! Lulz for the lul throne!
99 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:15pm |
re: #92 jamesfirecat
BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.
In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…
and range fingers?
100 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:15pm |
re: #91 Stanley Sea
D_F!! He’s a FLIP FLOPPER MOVE THE GOAL POSTS false maverick. Gah.
101 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:32pm |
102 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:33:19pm |
103 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:33:37pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
Here’s a good National Review article. It argues Abraham Lincoln as holding some of the views of today’s economic conservatives. Agree or disagree, it is good to see that national Review is holding the line and making sure that the GOP’s greatest hero remains respected and honored by his party.
It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?
‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.
104 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:34:05pm |
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
Sorry, but downding.
My karma is going to suck, because I’m making it a point to make that statement daily. Deal.
105 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:34:38pm |
106 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:34:54pm |
107 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:35:29pm |
108 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:35:31pm |
re: #103 sagehen
It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?
‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.
non sequitur.
the economy of 150 years ago is to today’s economy as tupperware is to the lute. quite unrelated.
109 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:35:47pm |
re: #104 Stanley Sea
My karma is going to suck, because I’m making it a point to make that statement daily. Deal.
You get more people agreeing with you than disagreeing with you. The karma will take care of itself.
110 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:36:53pm |
re: #109 b_sharp
You get more people agreeing with you than disagreeing with you. The karma will take care of itself.
I work in advertising…
111 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:37:13pm |
re: #106 jamesfirecat
I meant to type “Finders” thank you very much…
We only tease you because we love you - and you’re an easy target.
112 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:37:30pm |
113 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:38:23pm |
114 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:38:37pm |
re: #91 Stanley Sea
You know what I haven’t said today? (I’m going to say it till, whenever)
John McCain is either going senile or is one of the slimiest pols I’ve ever had the privilege to follow.
And I saw him at an event in 2000. Shook his damn slimy hand.
We’ve been debating this on the other site I hang out at:
Did McCain change, or is this who he always was and it just took awhile for us to realize it?
115 | Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:39:47pm |
re: #108 Aceofwhat?
non sequitur.
the economy of 150 years ago is to today’s economy as tupperware is to the lute. quite unrelated.
The Republican party of 150 years ago were the wild-eyed liberals (The Good Guys). That held, diminished, until at least TR had to bolt for the Bull Moose. The Dems at the eve of Secession were RW. Some still are.
116 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:40:03pm |
re: #113 b_sharp
Going for the sympathy vote are you?
if you look in Webster’s sympathy falls between shit & syphilis…
117 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:40:59pm |
re: #114 sagehen
We’ve been debating this on the other site I hang out at:
Did McCain change, or is this who he always was and it just took awhile for us to realize it?
He has become the chameleon years of torture made him. He had to learn to bend in the direction of the blowing wind or else break.
118 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:41:08pm |
It’s pie night. What kind of pie shall I have? The kind of pie that takes bacon hot sauce. A rich, tropical sort of pie.
119 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:41:12pm |
re: #114 sagehen
We’ve been debating this on the other site I hang out at:
Did McCain change, or is this who he always was and it just took awhile for us to realize it?
I honestly don’t know.
My belief is that South Carolina changed him - he saw the true soul of the GOP base and just what it would take to make him popular/electable at a national level with them.
120 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:41:54pm |
If we can get off the subject of my difficulties with the English Language, I followed up the advice I was given and there is now a page dedicated to tonights Troll Cats delivered in wonderfully over exuberant infomercial style, leaving aside the questionable “Union Cat” which I don’t think we’ll see quite as much of and only want to bring out when 100% needed.
Anywhere here is the page!
121 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:43:42pm |
re: #118 eclectic infidel
It’s pie night. What kind of pie shall I have? The kind of pie that takes bacon hot sauce. A rich, tropical sort of pie.
your nick is “infidel” for a reason…
122 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:44:37pm |
re: #114 sagehen
Excellent debate. The guy has either been a complete fraud or is going senile imo. Just watch the 2008 campaign stuff, he’s gone against almost every thing he said.
May I ask what other site? I’m just curious to find other places with chat. LGF is pretty much on it’s own in that way, and I love it, but I can multi task.
123 | Aceofwhat? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:02pm |
124 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:25pm |
re: #108 Aceofwhat?
the economy of 150 years ago is to today’s economy as tupperware is to the lute. quite unrelated.
It most certainly was.
By 1860 there were approximately 4,000,000 slaves in the United States, the second largest slave society—slave population—in the world. The only one larger was Russian serfdom. Brazil was close. But in 1860 American slaves, as a financial asset, were worth approximately three and a half billion dollars—that’s just as property. Three and a half billion dollars was the net worth, roughly, of slaves in 1860. In today’s dollars that would be approximately seventy-five billion dollars. In 1860 slaves as an asset were worth more than all of America’s manufacturing, all of the railroads, all of the productive capacity of the United States put together. Slaves were the single largest, by far, financial asset of property in the entire American economy. The only thing worth more than the slaves in the American economy of the 1850s was the land itself, and no one can really put a dollar value on all of the land of North America.
(david blight)
125 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:52pm |
126 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:56pm |
re: #103 sagehen
It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?
‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.
Yes, it does discuss the matter of infrastructure. And its not railroads conservatives don’t favor, its public transit rail services receiving subsidies they don’t tend to like. It’s one of those things where I don’t agree with much of my party, mostly because of where I live. Metra is a great asset to the Chicago area, and not something we could do without. The amount of cars it takes out of commuting duty saves the area millions each year. CTA ‘L’ trains do the same thing.
127 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:46:03pm |
128 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:47:06pm |
129 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:47:38pm |
130 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:47:45pm |
re: #120 jamesfirecat
If we can get off the subject of my difficulties with the English Language, I followed up the advice I was given and there is now a page dedicated to tonights Troll Cats delivered in wonderfully over exuberant infomercial style, leaving aside the questionable “Union Cat” which I don’t think we’ll see quite as much of and only want to bring out when 100% needed.
Anywhere here is the page!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
James, you have no difficulties with the English language.
The union cat is the best of the bunch.
131 | Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:49:11pm |
re: #122 Stanley Sea
Excellent debate. The guy has either been a complete fraud or is going senile imo. Just watch the 2008 campaign stuff, he’s gone against almost every thing he said.
May I ask what other site? I’m just curious to find other places with chat. LGF is pretty much on it’s own in that way, and I love it, but I can multi task.
If he had walked away a few years ago, both sides would remember him as a statesman. Now he will be Dr. Frankenstein.
132 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:49:31pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
Yes, it does discuss the matter of infrastructure. And its not railroads conservatives don’t favor, its public transit rail services receiving subsidies they don’t tend to like. It’s one of those things where I don’t agree with much of my party, mostly because of where I live. Metra is a great asset to the Chicago area, and not something we could do without. The amount of cars it takes out of commuting duty saves the area millions each year. CTA ‘L’ trains do the same thing.
Washington is the same way, the city streets were laid out to make it impossible for the British to invade… part of the reason I can get by without a car is that my work is only 4 blocks from Metro and metro stop is only like two blocks or so from my house, though my dad or brother can give me a ride to the metro from home and vice versa at least most days.
Still even those 4 blocks is getting to be pretty long as it gets colder… if it weren’t for the metro I would have had to spend a lot less time playing videogames and a lot more learning how to drive…
133 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:49:31pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
Yes, it does discuss the matter of infrastructure. And its not railroads conservatives don’t favor, its public transit rail services receiving subsidies they don’t tend to like. It’s one of those things where I don’t agree with much of my party, mostly because of where I live. Metra is a great asset to the Chicago area, and not something we could do without. The amount of cars it takes out of commuting duty saves the area millions each year. CTA ‘L’ trains do the same thing.
very reasonable and none-doctrinaire.
it’s a public good.
Its - essentially also the very same argument the left uses to support more government subsidised healthcare.
134 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:50:41pm |
re: #130 b_sharp
James, you have no difficulties with the English language.
The union cat is the best of the bunch.
haven’t seen union cat……….
135 | brookly red Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:50:53pm |
re: #133 wozzablog
very reasonable and none-doctrinaire.
it’s a public good.
Its - essentially also the very same argument the left uses to support more government subsidised healthcare.
I think it’s time for me to go shoot some pool…
136 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:51:03pm |
137 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:51:09pm |
re: #131 Decatur Deb
If he had walked away a few years ago, both sides would remember him as a statesman. Now he will be Dr. Frankenstein.
138 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:51:15pm |
re: #122 Stanley Sea
Excellent debate. The guy has either been a complete fraud or is going senile imo. Just watch the 2008 campaign stuff, he’s gone against almost every thing he said.
May I ask what other site? I’m just curious to find other places with chat. LGF is pretty much on it’s own in that way, and I love it, but I can multi task.
ta-nehisi coates, at the atlantic.
Like here, it’s got just the right amount of moderation and host participation in the comments to make for lively discussions with rapid troll removal.
140 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:36pm |
re: #133 wozzablog
very reasonable and none-doctrinaire.
it’s a public good.
Its - essentially also the very same argument the left uses to support more government subsidised healthcare.
The problem is that I see those two matters differently. But I do not wish to have a discussion on health care right now. All it’ll get me is yelled at.
141 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:40pm |
142 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:47pm |
Since so many people are interested here is “Union Cat” yet again which is a bit more partisan than my other troll cats picking a bone with what I see as an act of semi-trolling but others may see as justified.
If nothing else it is good because god damn I don’t know what they did to that cat but it looks mad as hell….
143 | Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:52pm |
re: #135 brookly red
What did Pool do to you? Or is this just business?
144 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:53:14pm |
re: #140 Dark_Falcon
The problem is that I see those two matters differently. But I do not wish to have a discussion on health care right now. All it’ll get me is yelled at.
I NEVER YELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
145 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:54:18pm |
146 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:54:33pm |
re: #140 Dark_Falcon
The problem is that I see those two matters differently. But I do not wish to have a discussion on health care right now. All it’ll get me is yelled at.
Yeah not to mention honestly even I think it’s a stretch to compare healthcare to mass transit since mass transit, lets not have that argument tonight…
147 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:54:54pm |
re: #138 sagehen
ta-nehisi coates, at the atlantic.
Like here, it’s got just the right amount of moderation and host participation in the comments to make for lively discussions with rapid troll removal.
Oh you are excellent.
148 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:55:11pm |
149 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:55:50pm |
re: #131 Decatur Deb
If he had walked away a few years ago, both sides would remember him as a statesman. Now he will be Dr. Frankenstein.
I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.
150 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:56:42pm |
re: #146 jamesfirecat
Yeah not to mention honestly even I think it’s a stretch to compare healthcare to mass transit since mass transit, lets not have that argument tonight…
Trust me, i had a really cool analogy ready to go :p
151 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:57:37pm |
re: #137 jamesfirecat
lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com>lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com>
James, you so clever!
152 | bratwurst Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:57:45pm |
re: #149 marjoriemoon
I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.
He was never Governor of AZ, but lots of Democrats respected the way he stood up to the swift boaters.
153 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:58:05pm |
re: #151 marjoriemoon
James, you so clever!
Please, the trollcats were clever, that was just google fu…
154 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:58:18pm |
re: #149 marjoriemoon
I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.
Segueing into Sagehen’s mention of Ta-Nehisi Coates, I follow him on twitter and he tweeted that one of his best memories of McCain was McCain’s stance against the MLK holiday.
Did they ever get that in AZ?
155 | Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:58:31pm |
re: #149 marjoriemoon
I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.
I saw him as “the opposition”, much like Gerald Ford or GHWB. Plus he had unquestionable service creds. Now he seems a ghost-in-waiting.
156 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:59:00pm |
re: #121 brookly red
your nick is “infidel” for a reason…
Ha! The cool thing too, is that Amazona’s is owned and operated by a Brazilian family. Their drivers are warm, lovely people. Piercing blue or green eyes with golden skin and smiles. Time to order.
158 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:00:13pm |
re: #152 bratwurst
He was never Governor of AZ, but lots of Democrats respected the way he stood up to the swift boaters.
Oh I’m sorry. I meant Senator.
159 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:00:30pm |
re: #154 Stanley Sea
Uh, I should receive kudos just to have typed this sentence!!!
Segueing into Sagehen’s
160 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:00:31pm |
re: #152 bratwurst
He was never Governor of AZ, but lots of Democrats respected the way he stood up to the swift boaters.
and to the lady who said Obama wasn’t an American.
And - to be honest - thats the point. He has moments where he cuts directly through the noise machine without equivocating and then says:
despite all my pre-conditions for the repeal of DADT being met by the top brass the economy is now too bad…………
161 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:01:12pm |
162 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:01:44pm |
163 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:02:13pm |
re: #160 wozzablog
and to the lady who said Obama wasn’t an American.
And - to be honest - thats the point. He has moments where he cuts directly through the noise machine without equivocating and then says:
That sounds like the proud owner of the curved talk wiener mobile, or maybe the reverse motion mumble min-van….
164 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:02:27pm |
re: #160 wozzablog
and to the lady who said Obama wasn’t an American.
And - to be honest - thats the point. He has moments where he cuts directly through the noise machine without equivocating and then says:
Ass hole.
he’s a pandering asshole.
Remember Cap & Trade was HIS schtick. Oh yeah, same with campaign finance.
He’s a panderer now. Thanks Tea Party!
165 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:02:37pm |
re: #159 Stanley Sea
Uh, I should receive kudos just to have typed this sentence!!!
You should, but I twisted my tongue trying to read it out loud and the pain blinded me to your genius.
166 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:03:24pm |
re: #165 b_sharp
You should, but I twisted my tongue trying to read it out loud and the pain blinded me to your genius.
Ah, these moments of success.
167 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:01pm |
169 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:52pm |
re: #164 Stanley Sea
Ass hole.
he’s a pandering asshole.
Remember Cap & Trade was HIS schtick. Oh yeah, same with campaign finance.
He’s a panderer now. Thanks Tea Party!
He was pandering pre-tea party. They made it much worse though by piutting Hayworth up against him. Yet another wake up call for him about where is bread is buttered with the base.
170 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:57pm |
re: #154 Stanley Sea
Segueing into Sagehen’s mention of Ta-Nehisi Coates, I follow him on twitter and he tweeted that one of his best memories of McCain was McCain’s stance against the MLK holiday.
Did they ever get that in AZ?
Yea, it is now. He worked with Dems in the Senate on some legislation, which actually drew criticism from the Right when he was running in 2008. I can’t recall now what it was now, but he has strong conservative views overall. The Right kept calling him a Liberal, but we never claimed him.
171 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:59pm |
172 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:07:07pm |
re: #170 marjoriemoon
Yea, it is now. He worked with Dems in the Senate on some legislation, which actually drew criticism from the Right when he was running in 2008. I can’t recall now what it was now, but he has strong conservative views overall. The Right kept calling him a Liberal, but we never claimed him.
McCain/Feingold.
173 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:07:28pm |
re: #171 Dark_Falcon
SMACK!
I appreciate the smack up-side the head D_F, but could you get Jennifer Connelly to do it next time?
174 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:07:34pm |
re: #170 marjoriemoon
Yea, it is now. He worked with Dems in the Senate on some legislation, which actually drew criticism from the Right when he was running in 2008. I can’t recall now what it was now, but he has strong conservative views overall. The Right kept calling him a Liberal, but we never claimed him.
Were we even trying to claim him? They call people Liberal and RINO these days like its some weird form of political Tourette Syndrome….
175 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:10pm |
re: #164 Stanley Sea
Ass hole.
he’s a pandering asshole.
Remember Cap & Trade was HIS schtick. Oh yeah, same with campaign finance.
He’s a panderer now. Thanks Tea Party!
You forgot Immigration Reform.
176 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:12pm |
re: #173 b_sharp
I appreciate the smack up-side the head D_F, but could you get Jennifer Connelly to do it next time?
While wearing teenie weenie bikini, preferably.
177 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:23pm |
re: #174 jamesfirecat
Were we even trying to claim him? They call people Liberal and RINO these days like its some weird form of political Tourette Syndrome…
Nazi!
178 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:40pm |
179 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:54pm |
180 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:10:26pm |
181 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:11:52pm |
183 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:14:21pm |
Are any of my fellow portlanders online tonight? I need indoor entertainment ideas for out of town guests. Any ideas?
184 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:15:07pm |
re: #175 JasonA
You forgot Immigration Reform.
Build a dang fence to keep those gosh darn mexican kids off of my third house’s lawn!
185 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:15:07pm |
re: #183 Killgore Trout
Are any of my fellow portlanders online tonight? I need indoor entertainment ideas for out of town guests. Any ideas?
Paint guns at 10 paces.
Now I’m really out.
186 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:15:18pm |
re: #183 Killgore Trout
Are any of my fellow portlanders online tonight? I need indoor entertainment ideas for out of town guests. Any ideas?
Are they the kind of people who’d enjoy Powell’s?
187 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:16:20pm |
188 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:17:54pm |
At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet….
189 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:18:36pm |
Leon Russell, “A Song For You”
190 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:18:59pm |
omg, this is why I don’t follow MLB as much anymore.
The Padres have reached an agreement to trade first baseman Adrian Gonzalez to the Boston Red Sox for three minor league prospects plus a player to be named later.
All three of the prospects are 21 or younger.
We suck and I have now dis-owned this team.
Thanks for listening.
191 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:19:36pm |
re: #188 jamesfirecat
At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet…
is the Browncoat’s name Malcolm?……………. :p
192 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:20:25pm |
re: #188 jamesfirecat
At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet…
Surender Loodwig or we wiil out da kittiez!
193 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:20:58pm |
re: #188 jamesfirecat
At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet…
Perhaps you’ll be inspired to make Boehner-cat and McConnel-cat and Obama-cat?
194 | Four More Tears Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:21:40pm |
re: #193 sagehen
Perhaps you’ll be inspired to make Boehner-cat and McConnel-cat and Obama-cat?
Obama Cat is very, very urban…
195 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:22:20pm |
197 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:22:41pm |
re: #193 sagehen
Perhaps you’ll be inspired to make Boehner-cat and McConnel-cat and Obama-cat?
What would that be the Boehner version of a Kitler?
198 | Bubblehead II Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:23:08pm |
Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Now I am going to get drunk.
Good Night Lizards.
199 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:23:25pm |
200 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:24:04pm |
re: #198 Bubblehead II
Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Now I am going to get drunk.
Good Night Lizards.
My deepest condolences.
201 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:25:50pm |
re: #198 Bubblehead II
Sadness. You have friends here.
202 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:26:00pm |
re: #195 wozzablog
Top Cat - surely, ed.
No, that doesn’t really work. Obama doesn’t have Top Cat’s easy charm and improvisational skills, but he understands the fields he operates in better. Top Cat works on the fly, while Obama prefers to act after a good deal of planning and laying the groundwork.
203 | SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:28:12pm |
205 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:29:52pm |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
No, that doesn’t really work. Obama doesn’t have Top Cat’s easy charm and improvisational skills, but he understands the fields he operates in better. Top Cat works on the fly, while Obama prefers to act after a good deal of planning and laying the groundwork.
he was the most urban of urban cats though……..
206 | HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:30:06pm |
re: #198 Bubblehead II
Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Now I am going to get drunk.
Good Night Lizards.
I’m so sorry…I know your pain
207 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:30:24pm |
re: #198 Bubblehead II
Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Now I am going to get drunk.
I’m very sorry to read that. Condolences.
Good Night Lizards.
209 | SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:31:02pm |
210 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:03pm |
re: #208 wozzablog
no Firefly fans in then.
I did to, but no, “Brown Coat” is Female and so her name isn’t anywhere close to being Malcom…
(Cue “Jayne is a girl’s name joke)
211 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:14pm |
212 | Wozza Matter? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:46pm |
re: #210 jamesfirecat
I did to, but no, “Brown Coat” is Female and so her name isn’t anywhere close to being Malcom…
(Cue “Jayne is a girl’s name joke)
Ah, the hero of Canton. The (woman) they call Jayne……….
213 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:56pm |
214 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:33:12pm |
Regarding Rescue Me:
(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_
Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11
215 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:17pm |
re: #214 eclectic infidel
Regarding Rescue Me:
(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_
Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11
Considering that what scant little I know of the show is that it is about fire fighters, this sound like a plan that could easily go off the rails in all kinds of ways…
216 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:20pm |
My kids enjoyed watching “Scrooged”. My favorite holiday movie quote: “The bitch hit me with a toaster.”
217 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:23pm |
re: #198 Bubblehead II
Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Now I am going to get drunk.
Good Night Lizards.
I’m sorry, Bubblehead :( My sincerest condolences to you.
218 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:27pm |
re: #206 HoosierHoops
glad you saw that Hoops.
220 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:27pm |
221 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:41pm |
222 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:59pm |
re: #214 eclectic infidel
Regarding Rescue Me:
(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_
Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11
Sounds wise. 9/11 was the “maguffin” for the entire series so its 10th anniversary is a good place to end the series.
223 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:36:29pm |
224 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:37:04pm |
re: #215 jamesfirecat
Considering that what scant little I know of the show is that it is about fire fighters, this sound like a plan that could easily go off the rails in all kinds of ways…
It’s about a fire house involved in 9/11 and their aftermath.
It will be epic.
225 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:37:25pm |
re: #223 prairiefire
He comes to KC every Sept. or so to play at one of the casinos in a small show. I have got to go see him.
Really? Lucky gal!! I was watching some recent vids of him on youtube. He doesn’t look like he’s in good health.
226 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:37:54pm |
It’s a little late to start questioning the Birch Society but….
Conservatives question whether John Birch Society should be accepted as part of the Tea Party movement
Heritage Foundation fellow Lee Edwards, who authored “William F. Buckley, Jr.: The Maker of a Movement,” thinks the John Birch Society, which was forced out of the mainstream by Buckley as a result of several conspiracy theories, has no place at all in the Tea Party movement.
…
Though representatives from Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks did not return TheDC’s requests for comment on their perceptions of the John Birch Society, a Tea Party Express spokesman said it will take an “ally.”“The Tea Party Express has always been laser-focused on just a few core issues: stop raising taxes, end the bailouts, defeat cap & trade, and reduce the size and scope of the federal government. Anyone who is focused on advancing those principles is a potential ally, regardless of the name of the political party or organization they might be a part of,” Levi Russell, a spokesman for the Tea Party Express, said in an e-mail to TheDC. “To the extent that the JBS is an advocate for our core ideals, they’re a welcome element of the tea party.”
…
Conservative new media publisher Andrew Breitbart said that, though he believes expanding the universe of voices, he’d consider publishing a Bircher only on a case-by-case basis, a slight improvement for the group that was banned from appearing in the National Review by Buckley.“I believe in more voices rather than less,” Breitbart told TheDC. “I think the best ideas will win.”
But, Breitbart said, he doubts he’ll be working with Birchers in the near future.
“I don’t foresee there being any Breitbart.com and John Birch Society mixer anytime soon, but if one were to occur, we’d call it the Goldschlager Standard,” Breitbart said in a phone interview.
Of course everybody ignore the elephant in the room. Glenn Beck. Conservatives accept the Birch Society whether they know it or not.
227 | palomino Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:38:38pm |
re: #205 wozzablog
he was the most urban of urban cats though…
Nice reference to slimeball Rep. Steve King, to whom urban is a dirty word. Sorry, Stevie, we’re not returning to the agrarian ideal envisioned by Thomas Jefferson.
The US is about 80% urban now, and that figure won’t decrease.
228 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:39:47pm |
re: #226 Killgore Trout
It’s a little late to start questioning the Birch Society but…
Conservatives question whether John Birch Society should be accepted as part of the Tea Party movement
Of course everybody ignore the elephant in the room. Glenn Beck. Conservatives accept the Birch Society whether they know it or not.
Here’s a hint for you tea party…..
NOOOoooOOOOOO000OOO WAY!
229 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:40:27pm |
230 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:41:24pm |
It’s sweet. In Season 4, Gina Gershon makes a very sexy appearance…several times.
231 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:42:12pm |
re: #228 jamesfirecat
Here’s a hint for you tea party…
NOOOoooOOOOOO000OOO WAY!
Quite Concur. The JBS should be rejected as firmly as possible.
232 | Max Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:43:59pm |
Who are Sarah Palin’s harshest critics?
The intellectual elite of the conservative movement.
233 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:44:14pm |
re: #230 eclectic infidel
It’s sweet. In Season 4, Gina Gershon makes a very sexy appearance…several times.
“How do you want your steak?”
234 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:47:47pm |
re: #228 jamesfirecat
Here’s a hint for you tea party…
NOOOoooOOOOOO000OOO WAY!
Yup, that’s the only way to do it but that opportunity passed long ago. All of those stalkers who flounced after the election were outraged that Charles was raising the alarm about the Birch Society. Even today they viciously defend Fox, Glenn Beck and 9-11 truthers. Nobody on the conservative side would be allowed to speak out against the Birch Society. The Tea Partiers wouldn’t stand for it.
235 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:48:14pm |
re: #229 prairiefire
He just made some new music with Elton John:[Link: www.npr.org…]
he was born in 1942.
Ah ok. Boy, the man can write love songs.
236 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:49:10pm |
238 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:53:15pm |
Oh here’s a keeper, Leon Russell, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Doug Kershaw. But this is more bluegrass really.
239 | SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:55:01pm |
re: #234 Killgore Trout
Yup, that’s the only way to do it but that opportunity passed long ago. All of those stalkers who flounced after the election were outraged that Charles was raising the alarm about the Birch Society. Even today they viciously defend Fox, Glenn Beck and 9-11 truthers. Nobody on the conservative side would be allowed to speak out against the Birch Society. The Tea Partiers wouldn’t stand for it.
Buckley got rid of ‘em once. Now it falls for someone to get rid of ‘em again.
240 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:55:24pm |
re: #232 Max D. Reinhardt
Who are Sarah Palin’s harshest critics?
The intellectual elite of the conservative movement.
Nicole Wallace, on Morning Joe the other day, said not to worry, that if Palin makes a serious run and seems on track to get the nomination, “a lot of people who know a lot of things, who’ve been keeping quiet, will suddenly have a lot to say. She won’t be the nominee.”
241 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:55:51pm |
re: #238 marjoriemoon
Oh here’s a keeper, Leon Russell, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Doug Kershaw. But this is more bluegrass really.
[Video]
I bet they smoked some really good weed that night.
242 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:57:16pm |
re: #241 prairiefire
I bet they smoked some really good weed that night.
What happens on the bayou, stays on the bayou!
243 | Interesting Times Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:59:50pm |
re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist
Buckley got rid of ‘em once. Now it falls for someone to get rid of ‘em again.
I doubt anyone is going to bother, since an overwhelming majority of the voting public haven’t even heard of the JBS (let alone why they’re bad).
244 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:59:54pm |
re: #242 marjoriemoon
Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.
245 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:02:30pm |
re: #244 prairiefire
Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.
I read they gave him a misdemeanor!! YEAH
246 | elizajane Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:02:30pm |
re: #240 sagehen
Nicole Wallace, on Morning Joe the other day, said not to worry, that if Palin makes a serious run and seems on track to get the nomination, “a lot of people who know a lot of things, who’ve been keeping quiet, will suddenly have a lot to say. She won’t be the nominee.”
Oooh, I can’t wait. Politics as soap opera.
Honestly, in the amount of time I’ve wasted on Sarah Palin drama, I could have finished my book. Or written a symphony. Or saved humanity!
247 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:03:23pm |
re: #244 prairiefire
Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.
lol! Good grief, I’ve always been a Willie fan.
248 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:04:34pm |
re: #246 elizajane
Oooh, I can’t wait. Politics as soap opera.
Honestly, in the amount of time I’ve wasted on Sarah Palin drama, I could have finished my book. Or written a symphony. Or saved humanity!
We waste time because remember, we’re scared. Or jealous.
Yeah, that’s the reason.
It’s more the train wreck can’t look and horrible possibility that the American idol people are the real American voters.
249 | SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:05:04pm |
re: #245 Stanley Sea
I read they gave him a misdemeanor!! YEAH
At this point, I think everyone should just assume Willie is carrying at all times. What if we just said that whenever he sees a cop, he has to give him fifty bucks, and that will settle any fines that might result from actually busting him?
(“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.)
250 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:05:32pm |
251 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:05:39pm |
re: #247 marjoriemoon
lol! Good grief, I’ve always been a Willie fan.
He is an honest man. I love him. I think my dad relates to him a lot, he’s always been a big fan. (my dad does not smoke pot).
252 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:10:33pm |
re: #251 prairiefire
He is an honest man. I love him. I think my dad relates to him a lot, he’s always been a big fan. (my dad does not smoke pot).
Funny you say that! My dad (born in 1926) was always a rat pack fan, until one day, while cooking biscuits at our restaurant, I walked in on him singing “On the Road Again.” I never knew he was a Willie fan, but apparently he loved him.
Dad didn’t partake either, although at the time I got the “watch out for boys, I know what they want” talk, I got the marijuana talk, too. “Just because I’m your father doesn’t mean I haven’t tried those reefer sticks!”
I miss my daddy!
253 | Interesting Times Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:11:36pm |
re: #240 sagehen
Nicole Wallace, on Morning Joe the other day, said not to worry, that if Palin makes a serious run and seems on track to get the nomination, “a lot of people who know a lot of things, who’ve been keeping quiet, will suddenly have a lot to say. She won’t be the nominee.”
She could still pull a Perot and turn the race into a three-way (not that I’d complain about that, given the most likely result… :) ).
254 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:12:52pm |
255 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:12:56pm |
“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.”
You kids keep me informed!
256 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:14:12pm |
257 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:14:34pm |
re: #246 elizajane
Oooh, I can’t wait. Politics as soap opera.
Honestly, in the amount of time I’ve wasted on Sarah Palin drama, I could have finished my book. Or written a symphony. Or saved humanity!
And who forced you to waste your time on her?
258 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:15:26pm |
re: #255 prairiefire
“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.”
[Video]
You kids keep me informed!
OMG this I have not heard.
Wilie is our leader!
259 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:15:58pm |
re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist
Buckley got rid of ‘em once. Now it falls for someone to get rid of ‘em again.
It’s going to be tougher this time. Glenn Beck’s Birch Society chalkboard has replaced conservative intellectualism. Even the brightest conservatives have turned against global warming, evolution and science in general. An intellectual like Buckley would never be taken seriously today. There just isn’t enough support for practical conservative intellectuals anymore and I have no idea how or if they’re going to return, I think it might be a while.
260 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:16:48pm |
re: #198 Bubblehead II
{{{Bubblehead II}}
And a soft smooch besides the hug.
261 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:17:01pm |
re: #244 prairiefire
Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.
Actually, it turns out he only had 4 ounces on him and in Texas that makes a big difference. 6 ounces would have gotten him a felony possession charge with up to 180 days in jail. 4 ounces means no jail time, just a fine.
262 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:17:22pm |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
And who forced you to waste your time on her?
It was me. I tied her up and showed her pictures of Palin all day and night for weeks!
263 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:18:14pm |
re: #255 prairiefire
“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.”
[Video]
You kids keep me informed!
“You’re really high”
“I’m going to tell our Savior”
oh my god, I’m dying. 1st time and I thank you and SFZ
264 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:19:12pm |
re: #252 marjoriemoon
{{{marjorie}}} I’m sure it feels awful. {m}
265 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:20:03pm |
Hey you late arriving gals. I held the fort for awhile without you. I was waiting for your support!
266 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:20:59pm |
re: #264 prairiefire
{{{marjorie}}} I’m sure it feels awful. {m}
Thanks, sweets. I have good memories!
267 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:21:39pm |
re: #265 Stanley Sea
Hey you late arriving gals. I held the fort for awhile without you. I was waiting for your support!
I’m here now!
*smooch*
268 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:22:34pm |
re: #249 SanFranciscoZionist
At this point, I think everyone should just assume Willie is carrying at all times. What if we just said that whenever he sees a cop, he has to give him fifty bucks, and that will settle any fines that might result from actually busting him?
(“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.)
“Do you smell that?”
“No, and you don’t either….”
(From “Mr. Monk and the Red Headed Stranger)
269 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:25:31pm |
re: #265 Stanley Sea
Hey you late arriving gals. I held the fort for awhile without you. I was waiting for your support!
War porn! Gah!
270 | goddamnedfrank Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:27:09pm |
re: #263 Stanley Sea
“You’re really high”
“I’m going to tell our Savior”
oh my god, I’m dying. 1st time and I thank you and SFZ
“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”
271 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:10pm |
re: #270 goddamnedfrank
lol That’s pretty funny. Is it for real?
272 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:17pm |
re: #270 goddamnedfrank
“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”
[Video]
LOL!….
amateurs
273 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:40pm |
Ah. Pizza arrived at 9:10 PST. Good times.
274 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:56pm |
275 | jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:30:15pm |
I”m going to bed, if any of you guys want trollcats made for particular arguments/situations let me know and I’ll get to work on it as soon as I wake up….
276 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:30:38pm |
re: #270 goddamnedfrank
“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”
[Video]
Oh lol! Dude, if I recall correctly was a cop!
LOL
278 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:32:27pm |
279 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:32:38pm |
re: #270 goddamnedfrank
“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”
[Video]
Time is going by really really slow
This is a fucking classic
280 | prairiefire Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:33:18pm |
re: #274 Floral Giraffe
Three sarc tags, so it is back to sarc. Good, cause I would much rather watch “Westside Story”
Gym Mambo
281 | goddamnedfrank Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:33:20pm |
282 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:34:05pm |
re: #270 goddamnedfrank
The wife takes 5 vicoden a day? And he doesn’t know why she’s sprawled out on the floor.
283 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:35:29pm |
are there any animals in the house?
This is the best classic. I actually heard it before on Jim Rome.
Guy must have lost his cop job?
284 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:35:38pm |
re: #278 eclectic infidel
Yup. Made Amurika safer or somethin.
Wasn’t about that. 6 ounces is considered possession with intent to distribute. 4 ounces is small enough that in Texas they figure that’s just for the possessor himself. And they don’t consider it worthwhile lock someone up for simple possession. Deals are considered a different matter.
285 | goddamnedfrank Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:35:57pm |
re: #279 Stanley Sea
Time is going by really really slow
This is a fucking classic
The thing about doing pot for the first time is you really do need to be on shag carpeting.
286 | Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:36:04pm |
re: #270 goddamnedfrank
“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”
[Video]
For the record, I don’t think you can OD on THC - BUT, you can freak out if you’re not used to a certain dosage, and baked products have that potential. I’ve freaked out before and the cure was shutting off all lights and just laying down for a while. It worked.
That caller’s reality was seriously tweaked that’s for sure. “I think we’re dead.” Priceless.
287 | lostlakehiker Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:36:06pm |
re: #103 sagehen
It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?
‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.
Investment in real infrastructure by Republicans didn’t go out of style with Lincoln. Eisenhower got the Interstate Highway program going. At the state level, some number of Republican governors have run and then governed as road-builders and maintainers.
All too many states have let infrastructure slide, with the result that the roads, railroads, dams, bridges, and electricity grid are all badly in need of repair or upgrade. I could cite instances of blue states that fit that profile, but there are probably red states that match it too. Oklahoma?
Why is it that, with so much work to be done, and the unemployment rate still drifting above 9%, the administration cannot seem to find much of anything in that line to actually go and do? That state governments continued to neglect infrastructure is easily explained; they cannot just print the money with which to fund the repairs. But since we’re printing money anyhow, what would be the harm in seeing some results from it?
288 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:36:32pm |
re: #280 prairiefire
Three sarc tags, so it is back to sarc. Good, cause I would much rather watch “Westside Story”
Gym Mambo[Video]
oh, honey, that’s not even one of the three best numbers in that movie.
I love the opening rumble, the Jet Song, but my absolute fave is
289 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:37:06pm |
re: #285 goddamnedfrank
The thing about doing pot for the first time is you really do need to be on shag carpeting.
nevah evah eat it. Totally different experience. I was there, but hell I never called 911.
290 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:37:36pm |
I like this commercial.
Allstate mayhem commercial - Dean Winters as Teenage Girl in Pink Truck
291 | Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:38:23pm |
292 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:39:15pm |
re: #281 goddamnedfrank
That is one bizarre story.
“If you’re a cop and you’re arresting people and you’re confiscating the marijuana and keeping it yourself, that’s bad. That’s real bad,” said City Councilman Doug Thomas.
Oh my, when I was 17, we got stopped and the cop spotted the bag in my friend’s purse. There was 6 of us in the car. He ended up taking the bag and letting us go.
293 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:39:57pm |
re: #290 Gus 802
I like this commercial.
Allstate mayhem commercial - Dean Winters as Teenage Girl in Pink Truck
[Video]
love those commercials….
I’m a teenage girl and emotionally compromised
294 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:40:00pm |
re: #291 Killgore Trout
Heh. So he did.
Yeah. I noticed what you posted earlier today. Not sure if I’ve ever seen Drudge change a headline wording before.
295 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:40:25pm |
re: #290 Gus 802
I like this commercial.
Allstate mayhem commercial - Dean Winters as Teenage Girl in Pink Truck
[Video]
Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-
296 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:40:28pm |
re: #286 eclectic infidel
For the record, I don’t think you can OD on THC - BUT, you can freak out if you’re not used to a certain dosage, and baked products have that potential. I’ve freaked out before and the cure was shutting off all lights and just laying down for a while. It worked.
That caller’s reality was seriously tweaked that’s for sure. “I think we’re dead.” Priceless.
Technically, there could also have been something on the pot.
297 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:41:32pm |
re: #296 marjoriemoon
Technically, there could also have been something on the pot.
PCP is often used to lace low grade pot…that shit is dangerous
298 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:42:31pm |
re: #295 Stanley Sea
Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-
Looks like it…
299 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:43:40pm |
re: #295 Stanley Sea
Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-
Two different actors with the same name I guess.
301 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:44:28pm |
re: #298 Gus 802
Looks like it…
[Link: www.associatedcontent.com…]
the teenage kid on the lawn tractor is hilarious…drives onto a gravel barrier and shatters the house with rocks
302 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:45:38pm |
re: #297 albusteve
PCP is often used to lace low grade pot…that shit is dangerous
Yep. There was also a trend of soaking it in embalming fluid which is delightful. yeesh.
303 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:45:47pm |
re: #301 albusteve
the teenage kid on the lawn tractor is hilarious…drives onto a gravel barrier and shatters the house with rocks
304 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:46:36pm |
re: #295 Stanley Sea
Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-
Yes, that is his name. He also played Ryan O’Reilly on HBO’s prison series OZ.
305 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:46:37pm |
re: #299 Gus 802
Two different actors with the same name I guess.
No, it’s him. Tommy Gavin’s hot younger bro.
I enjoy.
306 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:47:05pm |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
Yep. There was also a trend of soaking it in embalming fluid which is delightful. yeesh.
waaaaay beneath my standards….no way would I ever do anything less than top shelf erb
307 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:48:08pm |
308 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:48:47pm |
re: #306 albusteve
waaay beneath my standards…no way would I ever do anything less than top shelf erb
hehe Hey, how ya feeling?
309 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:49:52pm |
re: #305 Stanley Sea
No, it’s him. Tommy Gavin’s hot younger bro.
I enjoy.
Is this what you mean about “before he died”?
Before playing the cause of accidents, Dean Winters went through a near-death experience he’s only recently begun to talk about publicly. In June of 2009, Dean fell ill with a bacterial infection. He collapsed during a consultation with his doctor and his heart stopped beating for 2-1/2 minutes while riding to the hospital in an ambulance. Dean spent three weeks in an intensive care until before he was well enough to be released. His health unfortunately took a turn for the worse one month later. He developed gangrene and had to have one thumb and two toes amputated. He’s since has surgery to rebuild his right hand and his health is much improved.
310 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:50:10pm |
re: #307 albusteve
classic…these guys are onto something
Were you able to get that wound cleaned up?
311 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:51:17pm |
re: #308 marjoriemoon
hehe Hey, how ya feeling?
I made it…I feel better all ready after draining the infection….one deep jab and presto!…it needs to be irrigated and cleaned better tho…Monday at the docs, thanks
312 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:52:03pm |
re: #310 Dark_Falcon
Were you able to get that wound cleaned up?
yup…potato juice and ice for anesthetic
hahaha!….what a rube
313 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:52:09pm |
re: #311 albusteve
I made it…I feel better all ready after draining the infection…one deep jab and presto!…it needs to be irrigated and cleaned better tho…Monday at the docs, thanks
Good to hear. Maybe a strong cocktail is in order (if you haven’t already considered it).
314 | sagehen Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:52:42pm |
For great dancing of a more contemporary flavor, check out The LXD — a web-only live-action comic book; their superpowers manifest through dance.
Most of the episodes are under ten minutes.
315 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:53:28pm |
316 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:54:13pm |
re: #313 marjoriemoon
Good to hear. Maybe a strong cocktail is in order (if you haven’t already considered it).
heck!…what a groovy idea!
(I’m way ahead of ya)
317 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:57:01pm |
318 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:06pm |
re: #317 Stanley Sea
Dean Winters. Probably not his real name.
Whatever.
(thanks for the info)
My name is Lex Luther!
/
319 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:09pm |
re: #317 Stanley Sea
Dean Winters. Probably not his real name.
Whatever.
(thanks for the info)
his real name is Francis Grubneziac….I’ll find a link
320 | What, me worry? Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:21pm |
re: #316 albusteve
heck!…what a groovy idea!
(I’m way ahead of ya)
whoohoo! Well, if you’re down in Sierra Blanca, Texas, they apparently have some awesome Willie Nelson weed there.
322 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:39pm |
323 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:59:37pm |
re: #320 marjoriemoon
whoohoo! Well, if you’re down in Sierra Blanca, Texas, they apparently have some awesome Willie Nelson weed there.
I’m sure he does the bomb
324 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:00:00pm |
re: #319 albusteve
his real name is Francis Grubneziac…I’ll find a link
Birth Name
Dean Gerard Winters
325 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:00:27pm |
326 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:01:14pm |
re: #309 Gus 802
Is this what you mean about “before he died”?
I think they mean when his character was ambushed by scumbag criminals and killed.
327 | albusteve Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:02:11pm |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
I think they mean when his character was ambushed by scumbag criminals and killed.
“I think I’m dead”
329 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:08:24pm |
re: #324 Gus 802
Birth Name
Dean Gerard Winters
ok, now I’m even more in love. sealed the deal.
Gerard? beautiful.
331 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:09:10pm |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
I think they mean when his character was ambushed by scumbag criminals and killed.
yes.
332 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:09:25pm |
re: #329 Stanley Sea
ok, now I’m even more in love. sealed the deal.
Gerard? beautiful.
I take it you have a crush. Smitten. ;)
333 | Stanley Sea Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:10:48pm |
re: #332 Gus 802
I take it you have a crush. Smitten. ;)
I had a freak out when his character on Rescue Me was killed.
But he remembered me and came back as mayhem
335 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:26:47pm |
In other news…
N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects
TRENTON — When state Sen. Sean Kean saw the fierce opposition a proposed wind turbine stirred in his shore-area district, he came up with a solution: bar the construction of industrial electricity-generating windmills within 2,000 feet of any residentially zoned land.
But in the most densely populated state in the nation, environmentalists say it’s a case of “not in my backyard” gone wild. They say it would make it nearly impossible to put windmills on land along the wind-swept Jersey Shore.
…
Kean (R-Monmouth) drafted the bill after a proposed 325-foot windmill by Department of Military and Veterans Affairs at the National Guard training center in Sea Girt drew protests from hundreds of residents concerned it would threaten birds, cause noise, pose health risks and decrease property values. The Sea Girt council in September passed a resolution opposing building the turbine on the state-owned land.
…
Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?
336 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:28:10pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
In other news…
N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects
Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?
By slowing down the winds, it could mean that allergens are not dispersed and allowed to build up to lethal levels.
/
337 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:28:24pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
In other news…
N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects
Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?
More. Grab your barf bag…
The bill says it is meant to prevent “wind turbine syndrome,” in which close proximity to a turbine allegedly causes a host of health problems, including insomnia, headaches and learning disabilities. But the science behind the phenomenon, first published in a study by Dr. Nina Pierpont, is heavily debated.
338 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:28:59pm |
re: #336 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
By slowing down the winds, it could mean that allergens are not dispersed and allowed to build up to lethal levels.
/
Yeah. And they also cause “learning disabilities”. WTF?
339 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:29:28pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
In other news…
N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects
Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?
Head desk. It will be worth looking into how much of this is Astroturf too.
340 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:30:16pm |
re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote
Head desk. It will be worth looking into how much of this is Astroturf too.
Just started looking. OK, are you ready for this?
341 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:31:26pm |
In this engagingly written report by a Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine trained M.D. and Princeton Ph.D., we discover wind energy’s dirty little secret!!11ty
Eleventy!
342 | SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:32:36pm |
re: #340 Gus 802
Just started looking. OK, are you ready for this?
Read the biography on that site. It’s a hoot.
343 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:33:27pm |
re: #342 SanFranciscoZionist
Read the biography on that site. It’s a hoot.
Yeah. She’s a pediatrician and…
I am a board certified pediatrician licensed in the State of New York and Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. These days I limit my practice to behavioral medicine, seeing both adults and (chiefly) children, drawing my patients from an extensive area of upstate New York. I have had considerable post-graduate training in behavioral medicine, which I have been able to integrate with my doctoral training in behavioral ecology. My research on Wind Turbine Syndrome is the natural offspring of behavioral medicine married to behavioral ecology.
Most of all, I love what I do. I believe in compassion and grace and get tremendous pleasure and joy out of my patients. I run my practice out of my home as an old-fashioned doctor’s office. Cheerful, light, airy, the smell of my husband’s burnt toast in the background—Norman Rockwell’s America.
344 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:34:00pm |
re: #337 Gus 802
More. Grab your barf bag…
This is going to be crap just like the crap about cell phones being dangerous. It was always, always just bunk in that case because the EM fields cant even penetrate the skin.
However, scare enough people and you need endless research to prove that there is no effect. Then the endless research comes in, but it is a meme and the politicians latch onto it, while a breathless media stirs a nontroversy.
Remember how microwave ovens were going to kill us all as well?
345 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:35:05pm |
re: #340 Gus 802
Just started looking. OK, are you ready for this?
Can you say tobacco doctor! I don’t know for certain, but I will bet five bucks we find her funding comes from some unpleasant folks.
346 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:35:46pm |
re: #344 LudwigVanQuixote
This is going to be crap just like the crap about cell phones being dangerous. It was always, always just bunk in that case because the EM fields cant even penetrate the skin.
However, scare enough people and you need endless research to prove that there is no effect. Then the endless research comes in, but it is a meme and the politicians latch onto it, while a breathless media stirs a nontroversy.
Remember how microwave ovens were going to kill us all as well?
I think televisions were supposed to kill us to. Yeah, this borders on chemtrails and other urban myths…
Dr Nina Pierpont, a New York pediatrician and a controversial figure in the wind power discussion, has said that noise can be an important disadvantage of wind turbines, especially when building the wind turbines very close to urban environments. The controversy around Dr. Pierpont’s work centers around her claims made in a self-published, non-peer-reviewed book that ultra-low frequency sounds affect human health. She makes the assertion that wind turbines affect the mood of people and may cause physiological problems such as insomnia, headaches, tinnitus, vertigo and nausea.
347 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:37:13pm |
re: #344 LudwigVanQuixote
This is going to be crap just like the crap about cell phones being dangerous. It was always, always just bunk in that case because the EM fields cant even penetrate the skin.
However, scare enough people and you need endless research to prove that there is no effect. Then the endless research comes in, but it is a meme and the politicians latch onto it, while a breathless media stirs a nontroversy.
Remember how microwave ovens were going to kill us all as well?
LOL. I’m going to survive my microwave?
WHat a relief!
*waves*
348 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:39:03pm |
re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote
Head desk. It will be worth looking into how much of this is Astroturf too.
Good, you’re here. I’d been waiting for you so I could post this:
Are Venus’ mystery clouds warning sign for Earth?
Mysterious clouds discovered on Venus are not only helping scientists learn more about Earth’s closest planetary neighbor, they also serve as a cautionary tale for one proposed method of combating climate change on our own planet.
The peculiar sulfur dioxide clouds of Venus have perplexed scientists since they were first discovered in 2008 by the European Space Agency’s Venus Express spacecraft.
Now, computer simulations made by Xi Zhang, a graduate student in the Division of Geological and Planetary Sciences at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif., may explain these high-altitude clouds. [ Photos: Beneath the Clouds of Venus]
The study may also mean that one idea for addressing global warming on Earth — injecting sulfur droplets into Earth’s atmosphere — may not be as effective as previously thought, researchers said.
349 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:40:03pm |
For extra double happy fun here’s an article at Alex Cockburn’s “Counterpunch”:
Inconvenient Truths
Wind Turbine Syndrome
By Dr. NINA PIERPONT, MD
Wind turbines majestically threshing the wind — what marvels of human engineering! To stand beneath one is breathtaking. To live near one can be hell on earth. So I have been told by countless people who suddenly find themselves grievously ill from the subtle yet devastating infrasonic jackhammer generated by these “clean, green, renewable energy” giants.
…
Nina Pierpont, MD, PhD, is a pediatrician and author of “Wind Turbine Syndrome: A Report on a Natural Experiment” (2009). She is the keynote speaker at this weekend’s international symposium in Picton, Ontario, “The Global Wind Industry and Adverse Health Effects: Loss of Social Justice?”
350 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:40:58pm |
351 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:42:45pm |
re: #349 Gus 802
For extra double happy fun here’s an article at Alex Cockburn’s “Counterpunch”:
Inconvenient Truths
Wind Turbine Syndrome
By Dr. NINA PIERPONT, MD
This sounds like a load…
Sometimes it’s advantageous being a country doctor. Six years ago I began hearing health complaints from people living in the shadow of these gigantic turbines. At first it was merely local and regional, then global. Tellingly, virtually everyone described the same constellation of symptoms. Symptoms that were being triggered, I began to suspect, by vestibular dysregulation.
(1) Sleep disturbance. Not simply awakened, but awakening in a panic (“flight or fight” response).
(2) Headache.
(3) Tinnitus.
(4) Ear pressure.
(5) Dizziness.
(6) Vertigo.
(7) Nausea.
(8) Visual blurring.
(9) Tachycardia.
(10) Irritability.
(11) Problems with concentration and memory.
(12) Panic episodes associated with sensations of internal pulsation or quivering, which arise while awake or asleep. (This latter involving other, non-vestibular organs of balance, motion, and position sense.)None of these people had experienced these symptoms to any appreciable degree before the turbines became operational. All said their symptoms disappeared rapidly whenever they spent several days away from home. All said the symptoms reappeared when they returned home.
Sounds like they might be suffering from Wind Turbine is in my Backyard Hysteria Syndrome.
352 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:44:03pm |
re: #346 Gus 802
We agree that Nina Pierpont’s work should not be used as a basis for determining project approvals. We believe that setbacks need to be determined on a case-by-case basis and need to be reasonable to ensure safety and security and community needs while still enabling project development given the imperative of increasing our reliance on renewable energy to combat climate change and increase energy security. We do not take a position on any given setback distances since the density of population and the specifics of each wind farm site vary.
To our knowledge, Nina Pierpont’s work was self-published and has not appeared in any scientifically credible and peer-reviewed journal. Wind turbines have been in operation for many years in many parts of the world and contribute substantial amounts of energy (in greater percentages of total energy use than in the United States) in densely populated countries such as Germany and Spain apparently without widespread harmful health effects.
New Report From Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Of Health Says There Is No Direct Causal Link Between Wind Turbines And Adverse Health Effects
Self published and folksy web page…. Hmmmm…
None of her stuff submitted to peer review before she wrote a book!
Right there you know this is crap. It is always crap when they write a book but don’t write a journal paper. She knows her stuff is crap too, otherwise she would have published in a proper journal.
353 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:47:02pm |
re: #352 LudwigVanQuixote
[Link: www.innovationtrail.org…]
[Link: www.health.gov.on.ca…]
New Report From Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Of Health Says There Is No Direct Causal Link Between Wind Turbines And Adverse Health Effects
Self published and folksy web page… Hmmm…
None of her stuff submitted to peer review before she wrote a book!
Right there you know this is crap. It is always crap when they write a book but don’t write a journal paper. She knows her stuff is crap too, otherwise she would have published in a proper journal.
Yep. She just wrote a book and the morons are calling it a study. I mean try even finding anything about “vestibular dysregulation” and you won’t find much of anything.
354 | William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:48:39pm |
re: #350 Dark_Falcon
If it ducks like a quack…
Dude, that is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long assed time.
Thank you. I have to remember that one when dealing with my step mother. (She’s an RN, reasonably intelligent and decent hearted but is easily taken in by quackery and the fundamentalism of her Christian based cult.)
355 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:48:49pm |
re: #351 Gus 802
And then there is the sweet, I’m just a country girl who lives in a whitebread Norman Rockwell world aspect.
Scientists don’t try to tell people how sweet they are when discussing science.
This smells like utter astroturf.
I think it is very likely that a little more digging will finde her getting paid in one form or another by some sort of “foundation” with a wholesome name like Concerned Americans for Maintaining Wholesomeness, that is in reality a front for a fossil fuel interest.
356 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:49:06pm |
re: #352 LudwigVanQuixote
[Link: www.innovationtrail.org…]
[Link: www.health.gov.on.ca…]
New Report From Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Of Health Says There Is No Direct Causal Link Between Wind Turbines And Adverse Health Effects
Self published and folksy web page… Hmmm…
None of her stuff submitted to peer review before she wrote a book!
Right there you know this is crap. It is always crap when they write a book but don’t write a journal paper. She knows her stuff is crap too, otherwise she would have published in a proper journal.
Hey but don’t worry. I’m pretty sure Lawrence will be on the case soon.
I can see the wingnuts jumping on this bandwagon.
//
357 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:49:35pm |
re: #356 Gus 802
Hey but don’t worry. I’m pretty sure Lawrence will be on the case soon.
I can see the wingnuts jumping on this bandwagon.
//
You know it.
358 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:51:20pm |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Good, you’re here. I’d been waiting for you so I could post this:
Short form. Dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere means making sulfuric acid rain.
Bad bad bad idea.
359 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:51:35pm |
re: #357 LudwigVanQuixote
You know it.
Here’s part of the whois for her website:
Registrant:
Calvin Martin
Calvin Martin
XX Clay
Malone, NY 12953
360 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:52:15pm |
361 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:52:44pm |
re: #351 Gus 802
This sounds like a load…
Sounds like they might be suffering from Wind Turbine is in my Backyard Hysteria Syndrome.
I call it “‘ELEVENTY!!1’ Degenerative Derangement” or EV!DD. It occurs when someone falls for too many “ELEVENTY!!1” stories and progressively degenerates, becoming more and more gullible to tales put out by their “ELEVENTY!!1” provider and less and less able to accept reality.
362 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:53:13pm |
re: #359 Gus 802
Here’s part of the whois for her website:
Registrant:
Calvin Martin
Calvin Martin
XX Clay
Malone, NY 12953
Interesting. Calvin Martin would be the husband.
363 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:53:53pm |
re: #359 Gus 802
Here’s part of the whois for her website:
Registrant:
Calvin Martin
Calvin Martin
XX Clay
Malone, NY 12953
She might be a general purpose kook.
364 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:54:26pm |
re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote
*smooch*
Hi Sir!
You’re seeming feisty tonight!
Hope all is well.
another *smooch* for you.
Because I can!
All is well here.
365 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:55:44pm |
re: #361 Dark_Falcon
I call it “‘ELEVENTY!!1’ Degenerative Derangement” or EV!DD. It occurs when someone falls for too many “ELEVENTY!!1” stories and progressively degenerates, becoming more and more gullible to tales put out by their “ELEVENTY!!1” provider and less and less able to accept reality.
In that case I think an ordinary house fan, heater fan, and AC would be causing these “symptoms”. Don’t these people drive too?
366 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:56:15pm |
re: #358 LudwigVanQuixote
Short form. Dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere means making sulfuric acid rain.
Bad bad bad idea.
Didn’t say it was a good one. But whenever I see tthat sort of article I try to bring it to your attention.
367 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:57:50pm |
re: #351 Gus 802
Well, they do make noise as the turbine twirls,
I think many people expect them to be silent. They’re not.
They make machine noises.
If you don’t like hearing machine noises 24/7 this isn’t something you want near your house.
368 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:59:02pm |
re: #365 Gus 802
In that case I think an ordinary house fan, heater fan, and AC would be causing these “symptoms”. Don’t these people drive too?
The only cure is to isolate the person from the “ELEVENTY!!1” source and then begin deprogramming.
369 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:59:38pm |
re: #367 Floral Giraffe
Well, they do make noise as the turbine twirls,
I think many people expect them to be silent. They’re not.
They make machine noises.
If you don’t like hearing machine noises 24/7 this isn’t something you want near your house.
Planes, trains, and automobiles.
If that’s the case then forget about large scale wind turbines near any high density population areas.
370 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:00:12pm |
re: #358 LudwigVanQuixote
Short form. Dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere means making sulfuric acid rain.
Bad bad bad idea.
Bad ideas have an honored and cherished place in our history.
372 | Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:02:29pm |
Gahhh…kinda awkward to get into a yelling argument with someone for half an hour and then find out that your both only arguing semantics and actually hold the same basic point of view.
/I really hate it when that happens (basically it shows how much you already dislike each other or it wouldn’t have happened) I gotta try to suck it up and be nice to everyone no matter what for this next week till Mom’s memorial. Wish me luck…
373 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:02:30pm |
re: #369 Gus 802
Planes, trains, and automobiles.
If that’s the case then forget about large scale wind turbines near any high density population areas.
It’s kinda like folks who buy houses under airport flight paths.
They SAY they understand it,but then they move in and have to live with it.
It’s NEVER what they expected.
374 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:03:57pm |
re: #373 Floral Giraffe
It’s kinda like folks who buy houses under airport flight paths.
They SAY they understand it,but then they move in and have to live with it.
It’s NEVER what they expected.
Oh heck that’s another one. They’ve managed to almost destroy the small airport business.
375 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:05:08pm |
re: #372 ausador
Repeat after me.
“They have the same goals that I do.”
“Really, we want the same things.”
“I will go to Alcatraz if I rip her head off, right now, so I must wait”.
*hugs for you*
376 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:06:16pm |
There’s no evidence of health impacts from wind energy
Published: Friday, November 26, 2010, 6:00 AM
While there are legitimate issues worth debating with regard to wind energy development, public health impacts are not among them. The Oregonian’s recent coverage of such impacts does a disservice to readers by further amplifying the discredited hypothesis of a single wind opponent, Nina Pierpont, whose self-published work has been widely criticized by sound experts.
While opponents of wind energy have attempted to use self-published reports to block projects, the science is clear. Independent studies conducted around the world consistently find that wind farms have no direct impact on physical health. In fact, with no air or water pollution emissions, wind energy is essential to reducing public health impacts from the energy sector.
A minority of residents living near wind projects may sometimes find the turbine sounds annoying and the same is true with any environmental sound. Annoyance is a subjective effect that varies among people and circumstances. Many residents in Oregon and across the United States find wind turbines to be a non-intrusive neighbor.
In 2009, we participated in an international multidisciplinary scientific advisory panel to review current literature on the perceived health effects of wind turbines. The panel found no evidence that the audible or sub-audible sounds emitted by wind turbines have any direct adverse physiological effects. It is important to note that while this effort was funded by the American and Canadian Wind Energy Associations, we are independent scientists who had no involvement with the wind industry prior to this engagement.
The Australian National Health and Medical Research Council also conducted peer-reviewed research on the issue: Its findings: “There is currently no published scientific evidence to positively link wind turbines with adverse health effects.”
And in May 2010, Ontario’s chief medical officer of health issued a report concluding that the scientific evidence does not support a direct causal link between wind turbine sounds and adverse human health impacts.
A recent Health and Safety Briefing from RenewableUK, formerly the British Wind Energy Association, entitled “Independent review of the state of knowledge about the alleged health condition known as Wind Turbine Syndrome,” included analyses from a team of expert reviewers who were highly critical of Nina Pierpont’s work. One expert states that “Pierpont makes the common mistake of taking a one-dimensional view of sound, considering only frequencies and ignoring the importance of levels … this is a serious failing, as urban dwellers are exposed to similar levels of infrasound to that from wind turbines.”
Inevitably all Oregon communities will weigh the costs and benefits of wind energy differently, but citizens should be presented with accurate and science-based information with which to make their decisions.
Robert J. McCunney is a research scientist in occupational and environmental medicine at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Department of Biological Engineering. Robert Dobie is a clinical professor of otolaryngology at both the University of Texas-San Antonio and the University of California, Davis. David M. Lipscomb is president of Correct Service Inc. in Stanwood, Wash.
377 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:09:49pm |
re: #364 Floral Giraffe
*smooch*
Hi Sir!
You’re seeming feisty tonight!
Hope all is well.
another *smooch* for you.
Because I can!
All is well here.
Hey hey! I am fine. I am just not usually around at the birth of a cold fusion like burst of pseudo-scientific flatulence from people who should be respectable.
There are 5 warning signs.
1. It sounds implausible - not for the reason that it is weird, but rather that it does not make any sense at all that there could be a mechanism to do what is claimed. Usually it is an energy conservation argument.
In the case of cold fusion, the issue was that there was no way to overcome the coulomb barrier.
In this case, I simply don’t see how a wind mill, some hundreds of yards away on a windy day could make enough of any sort of sound that it could be easily detected (without a parabolic mic or such) let alone interact detectably with any structure in the human body. How exactly would incredibly faint and distant sounds cause learning disabilities?
This is an automatic red flag
2. There is no mechanism for the effect given. There is merely a claim that something happens. In of itself it is not necessarily bad, but usually people have some idea of how they think something works. This too is a red flag.
3. The data is always in the noise. There is never a clear statistical trend or a signal clearly above noise. In most medical claims, it is a matter of anecdotal evidence and refusal to consider confounding factors. In this case, we have the country doctor drawing inferences from a few of her patients - so she claims. This is really a giant red flag.
4. The work goes to the media before it gets peer reviewed. This is always, always a bad sign. If you have made the most earth shattering discovery ever, your first impulse is to publish in the best journal you can straight away. You want the scientific credit. If you want publicity first, and no one asking questions, then you go to the press. This is what happened with Cold Fusion. This is a super duper red flag.
5. There is a folksy, I am selling you something tone to the writing.
In this case, this whole lavender font, “I am a sweet country girl who loves kids and nature and my hubby’s burnt toast” (she actually said that) smacks of hucksterism. This is another colossal red flag.
378 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:10:10pm |
A comment from my original NJ dot com link:
bob December 01, 2010 at 7:34AM
FollowYOU CALL THE PEOPLE OF NJ SPECIAL INTERESTS.
You are a hartless Big Wind Lobbiest who whats to harm the health of New Jesey women and children. The sound and home shaking vibration of those horrible machines cases health problesm. These windmills kill thousands of birds daily. Falcons nest on these windmills and are destroyed by the props on windy days. The poor birds do not know that the vibration harms their babies.
Only a special interest Liberal would want to put a windmill outside a childs bedroom window.
379 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:10:36pm |
re: #376 Gus 802
There’s no evidence of health impacts from wind energy
Published: Friday, November 26, 2010, 6:00 AM
The problem is that those reports only do so much. I’ve been think about this sort of problem and I think the scientific side needs to develop its own dirty-tricks brigade. A group that will work to get the dirt on the most influential cranks and bring them down. It should not manufacture stories, but it should have the purpose of painting the opposition as nut-jobs.
380 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:14:16pm |
381 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:15:37pm |
re: #378 Gus 802
A comment from my original NJ dot com link:
I know its not likely him, but that post is written in the same way as Rodan writes: certain that the opposition is just an evil front and utterly convinced of his own correctness and virtue. I half expected the poster to call you a “Peronist Progressive”.
382 | Gus Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:16:05pm |
Oh the pain! I’m reading some more of those comments. Good grief.
383 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:17:55pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
Oh the pain! I’m reading some more of those comments. Good grief.
Unmoderated comments on a major science issue tend to be a sewer. The comments are full of weirdos letting their freak flags fly.
384 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:18:29pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
Oh the pain! I’m reading some more of those comments. Good grief.
Gus, could you post my five warning signs over wherever this is?
386 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:21:06pm |
re: #377 LudwigVanQuixote
I think this ought to have “troll hammer” status.
I will favorite it, to re-use.
387 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:24:33pm |
Good night, all.
Sleep well. And for as long as you can!
It’s a gift, that many do not have.
Treasure it, and your selves.
*Snuggles soft sheets*
388 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:27:40pm |
re: #387 Floral Giraffe
Good night, all.
Sleep well. And for as long as you can!
It’s a gift, that many do not have.
Treasure it, and your selves.
*Snuggles soft sheets*
I’m gonna pack it in also. Sleep well, all.
389 | tnguitarist Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:29:26pm |
Good evening, late-nighters. Long time no post. Life got busy.
390 | Kragar Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:56:41pm |
Helen Thomas’ school scraps award over ‘Zionists’ remark
Wayne State University, the Detroit, Michigan, institution that Thomas graduated from in 1942, said in a statement Friday that the school will no longer give out the Helen Thomas Spirit of Diversity in the Media Award.
“Wayne State encourages free speech and open dialogue, and respects diverse viewpoints,” the school’s statement said. “However, the university strongly condemns the anti-Semitic remarks made by Helen Thomas during a conference yesterday.”
395 | darthstar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:22:44am |
Left my dogs at home listening to “The Bridge” on Sirius 33, thinking some mellow rock would hold them while I went to a Chanukah dinner at a friend’s house. Well, I get back seven hours later to realize that there’s a Paul McCartney marathon this weekend, and the poor boys got nothing but soldier boy, kisses girl the whole time…now they don’t give a shit what the Man has to say.
396 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:24:00am |
Sorry Gus, but I don’t feel like dancing.
398 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:31:47am |
re: #397 Gus 802
Bee Gees!
A definite strong influence there
Gonna take your mama out all night
Yeah we’ll show her what it’s all about
We’ll get her jacked up on some cheap champagne
We’ll let the good times all roll out
And if the music ain’t good, well it’s just too bad
We’re gonna sing along no matter what
399 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:35:15am |
re: #398 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
A definite strong influence there
[Video]Gonna take your mama out all night
Yeah we’ll show her what it’s all about
We’ll get her jacked up on some cheap champagne
We’ll let the good times all roll out
And if the music ain’t good, well it’s just too bad
We’re gonna sing along no matter what
Now I’m hearing some Elton John.
400 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:35:45am |
401 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:36:46am |
Burn Down The Mission - Elton John from Tumbleweed Connection
Not related to my above comment. I always liked this album.
402 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:39:18am |
Just found them last night, the song that lead them to me was this one.
I can’t decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you’ll probably go to heaven
Please don’t hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It’s cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We’re going for a ride
404 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:41:08am |
re: #402 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just found them last night, the song that lead them to me was this one.
[Video]I can’t decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you’ll probably go to heaven
Please don’t hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It’s cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We’re going for a ride
Banjo!
406 | Eclectic Infidel Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:46:20am |
re: #390 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
That woman is a creep. Maybe she should go back to where she came from.
No, I don’t really mean that. Wherever you are, that is where you are meant to be.
But seriously, FU Helen Thomas!!!
408 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:48:54am |
re: #406 eclectic infidel
That woman is a creep. Maybe she should go back to where she came from.
No, I don’t really mean that. Wherever you are, that is where you are meant to be.
But seriously, FU Helen Thomas!!!
Nice to see a sham’s legacy crumble while they’re still around to feel bitter about it.
409 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:52:07am |
re: #405 Gus 802
Image: 6-10-17%20city%20hall%20scissor%20sisters%20babyda ddy%20with%20banjo.jpg
An electric banjo seems like it should break some basic fundamental law of nature.
410 | AlexRogan Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:03:27am |
re: #409 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
An electric banjo seems like it should break some basic fundamental law of nature.
A Flying Vee electric banjo, no less…didn’t know such things existed ;-P
411 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:07:43am |
The founder of WikiLeaks today revealed he has sent out 100,000 encrypted copies of secret diplomatic cables so they will definitely be released whatever happens to him.Julian Assange, breaking his silence in an online question and answer session, acknowledged there had been death threats against him and his colleagues because of the damaging leaks.
He told for the first time of the insurance policy he had put in place to ensure that his whistleblowing website will not be silenced, whatever drastic steps may be taken by his enemies.
412 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:08:40am |
A man who was initially sentenced to a dozen years in prison this summer on child pornography charges was set free Tuesday.
Joel Large, 44, of Los Lunas, who was sentenced to 12 years in prison after being convicted on charges that involved producing child pornography and providing alcohol and cigarettes to underage boys, walked out of court a free man.
District Court Judge William Sanchez suspended the remainder of Large’s sentence and placed him on five years probation.
Large had entered a plea of no contest to sexual exploitation of children, drug trafficking and three counts of contributing to the delinquency to a minor, and was sentenced by Sanchez on July 13 to 18 years in prison, with six years suspended.
On Tuesday, Sanchez suspended the remainder of that prison sentence in response to a motion to reconsider sentence filed by Large’s defense attorney, Randy Chavez.
During the hearing, Assistant District Attorney Judith Reed said that the charges were brought to the attention of the Los Lunas Police Department in the fall of 2008 when one of the three juvenile victims reported to police that he was being stalked by Large in a sexual manner.
According to police reports, police served a search warrant at Large’s house and found photographs and videos depicting children as young as 13-years old engaged in explicit situations with other children, and sometimes other adults.
Police also found methamphetamine, syringes and baggies used in packaging. Large told police that he supplied alcohol and cigarettes to juveniles.
During the hearing, Large told Sanchez that he had been using methamphetamines since 1984.
“I was intoxicated on drugs where you’re really not in your right mind to make proper judgment on how you’re living your life,” he said.
He told the judge that he had no intention of distributing the methamphetamines and had no idea that downloading child pornography was a crime.
Because of the nature of the charges, he has spent a great deal of the time he was incarcerated in protective custody.
“That’s really hard to do,” Large said.
“I found God and Jesus Christ and plan to devote my life to doing good things,” he said.
413 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:10:21am |
re: #412 Gus 802
He could probably do a lot of good ministering to other prisoners as he continues his sentence.
414 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:11:14am |
re: #413 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
He could probably do a lot of good ministering to other prisoners as he continues his sentence.
Exactly. He wasn’t even in prison for years. Hard to believe that this bullshit still goes on in the justice system.
He”ll be back.
415 | freetoken Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:11:27am |
Bobby wants to be on the ticket?
Palin ‘Absolutely’ Electable in 2012, Republican Jindal Says
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said that Sarah Palin is “absolutely” electable as president, a topic of debate among Republicans even though she has yet to announce her intentions for 2012.“It’s up to her to make the case to voters,” Jindal said in an interview on “Political Capital With Al Hunt” airing this weekend on Bloomberg Television.
Jindal was asked about recent comments by Joe Scarborough, an MSNBC commentator and former Republican congressman from Florida, who said it was time for Republicans to “man up” and recognize the former Alaska governor is a reality TV show star who cannot be elected.
“I think there are several strong contenders,” said Jindal, who stopped short of endorsing Palin and said he doesn’t like “the Republican establishment” telling people how to vote.
[…]
Sooner or later I expect them to start blaming Soros for all those “establishment” Republicans bashing Esther.
416 | Eclectic Infidel Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:15:45am |
re: #415 freetoken
It’s gonna be a freak show. Ironically, the divide and conquer mentality of the gop could backfire as republican factions vie for power come next election cycle. Start eating their young, so to speak.
417 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:21:05am |
re: #416 eclectic infidel
It’s gonna be a freak show. Ironically, the divide and conquer mentality of the gop could backfire as republican factions vie for power come next election cycle. Start eating their young, so to speak.
Or in this case they’re already eating the party elders.
It’s rather pathetic. Palin quit in disgrace being governor. Now she has a reality TV show and I read somewhere that Kate Gosselin is going to be a guest.
I guess now the GOP will embrace trash politics by way of Palin. Although many would say they already have by way of the Tea Party.
Be prepared for anything though. Americans are an unpredictable lot that believe in ghosts, goblins, and the literal word of the Bible.
419 | freetoken Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:27:42am |
re: #416 eclectic infidel
re: #417 Gus 802
Well, the GOP could always go this route:
Ugandan politician urges men to sex strike for votes
A Ugandan opposition politician on Thursday urged his male supporters to go on sex strike until their wives promise not to vote for the ruling party in upcoming national elections.
421 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:30:06am |
422 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:30:44am |
423 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:36:35am |
re: #420 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
A definite DERP
Mouth breather. I love the way they try to make bear hunting sound like a near death experience. All you need is the right equipment, rifle, scope, and hunt downwind. Then you’re surrounded with other armed hunters and possibly side arms. But I suppose some people think that qualifies her for being president. L.O.L.
424 | freetoken Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:37:07am |
425 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:40:29am |
re: #424 freetoken
re: #422 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So, I take it both of you believe that Republican men aren’t… how can I put this… so desirable to their mates that a strike would be noticed by the women?
Nah. Typically women have the last word on sex in a heterosexual relationship — due in large part to biology and evolution (i.e. they’re the ones that get pregnant, etc.). Men going on a sex strike would be very atypical. Of course, we’re talking about a bunch of knuckleheads in Uganda.
426 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:41:04am |
427 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:42:42am |
Husband: I will not have sex with you unless you vote for Jane Doe!
Wife: OK, sounds good to me. Good night dear.
428 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:48:00am |
re: #427 Gus 802
Husband: I will not have sex with you unless you vote for Jane Doe!
Wife: OK, sounds good to me. Good night dear.
It could be awkward if done over the phone:
Man: “No sex unless you vote the way I tell you!”
Woman: “Who is this!?”
433 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 4:11:04am |
Pourvu quelles soient douces
435 | Varek Raith Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:19:30am |
Don’t criticize someone until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes.
Because when you do, you’re a mile away and have his shoes.
.
Morning sucks.
:)
436 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:29:09am |
re: #435 Varek Raith
I get up at 5:00 AM every morning and five minutes after I’m awake I’m smiling and humming and thinking about what a great day it’s going to be.
437 | Varek Raith Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:32:08am |
re: #436 Obdicut
I get up at 5:00 AM every morning and five minutes after I’m awake I’m smiling and humming and thinking about what a great day it’s going to be.
438 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:39:50am |
re: #437 Varek Raith
My wife is not a morning person. At all. When I went on Welbutrin to quit smoking, it had the side effect of making me even more chipper. It’s a testament to her patience that she didn’t make me go do laps until she could deal.
439 | Varek Raith Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:41:49am |
re: #438 Obdicut
My wife is not a morning person. At all. When I went on Welbutrin to quit smoking, it had the side effect of making me even more chipper. It’s a testament to her patience that she didn’t make me go do laps until she could deal.
Heh.
My eyes are very photosensitive. I get migraines if I’m out in it too long.
So, I don’t like the sun.
440 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:06:55am |
re: #439 Varek Raith
Heh.
My eyes are very photosensitive. I get migraines if I’m out in it too long.
So, I don’t like the sun.
Yes, but do you sparkle?
441 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:10:28am |
re: #439 Varek Raith
Heh.
My eyes are very photosensitive. I get migraines if I’m out in it too long.
So, I don’t like the sun.
Buy a winter home here in Portland. We go months without seeing the sun.
442 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:14:38am |
443 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:35:15am |
No shit….
Graham: GOP ‘made some pretty poor choices’ for Senate candidates this fall
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said that Republicans “made some pretty poor choices” in choosing their Senate candidates this fall.
Graham, in a Senate floor speech on Saturday, made an aside comment underscoring the frustration the GOP faced after some Tea Party-aligned nominees fell short in their campaigns.
444 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:52:06am |
re: #443 Killgore Trout
The funny part his he only thinks the ones who lost are the bad choices.
I think every GOP senator who denies AGW, won’t pass tax breaks for the middle class without passing them for the highest 2% as well, and is on board with blocking START is a bad choice.
I.e. just about all of them.
445 | Varek Raith Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:17:24am |
Dear GOP,
STOP SAYING I DON’T PAY TAXES! There are more to taxes than just income tax. Stop pretending otherwise.
Also, stop saying that the extension of unemployment benefits need to be paid for but the Bush tax cuts for the rich don’t.
Jackasses.
447 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:40:39am |
re: #419 freetoken
FBV to Wife… Am I hurting you?
Wife to FBV… No. You are just annoying me.
448 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:44:39am |
The Little green football prayer list
On Dec. 5, 1933, national Prohibition came to an end as Utah became the 36th state to ratify the 21st Amendment to the Constitution, repealing the 18th Amendment
Thank you Lord for all the prayers answered every Sunday Morning:
We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..
But we all agree to extend well wishes, Prayers and healing to our fellow lizards…
NJHockeyfan:My friend’s son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
BubbleheadII: But please add this man soul to it.
James S Stoddard.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Obdicut: My friend Pam, who’s ovarian cancer has returned. She’s going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Dark_Falcon: His Mother had a stroke..She is getting better.. Please heal her Lord
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I’d appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife’s best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn’t go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could you add my parents?
They’re in their 80’s and slipping in to ALZ…Simultaneously
HoosierHoops: Bring peace and strength to Joe and his family
Thank you Lord..
Amen
449 | jaunte Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:46:49am |
re: #369 Gus 802
Planes, trains, and automobiles.
If that’s the case then forget about large scale wind turbines near any high density population areas.
From that earlier wiki link:
“… a 2007 Swedish study report stated, “Annoyance is an adverse health effect.”
en.wikipedia.org
I wonder if political news should have a health warning attached.
450 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:50:16am |
re: #448 HoosierHoops
Could you add “prayers for all the GOP senators and house members in Washington, may God guide them in all their decisions”
Walt.
451 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:51:10am |
re: #448 HoosierHoops
The Little green football prayer list
On Dec. 5, 1933, national Prohibition came to an end as Utah became the 36th state to ratify the 21st Amendment to the Constitution, repealing the 18th AmendmentThank you Lord for all the prayers answered every Sunday Morning:
We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..
But we all agree to extend well wishes, Prayers and healing to our fellow lizards…
NJHockeyfan:My friend’s son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
BubbleheadII: But please add this man soul to it.James S Stoddard.
He was a good Man and my brother.
He will be missed, but not forgotten.
Obdicut: My friend Pam, who’s ovarian cancer has returned. She’s going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Dark_Falcon: His Mother had a stroke..She is getting better.. Please heal her Lord
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I’d appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife’s best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn’t go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could you add my parents?
They’re in their 80’s and slipping in to ALZ…Simultaneously
HoosierHoops: Bring peace and strength to Joe and his family
Thank you Lord..
Amen
Hoosier, my dad passed away on Nov. 15. Thanks for your prayers.
452 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:53:02am |
re: #451 Alouette
Hoosier, my dad passed away on Nov. 15. Thanks for your prayers.
I should update as well. My father is, thankfully, much better, and my mother-in-law passed away in late September.
Thanks as always for maintaining the list.
453 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:56:29am |
re: #451 Alouette
I’m sorry..I removed him from the list..
kind regards
454 | Stanley Sea Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:58:16am |
Muslims call FBI against mosque attendee who keeps preaching war, only to discover he was a highly paid FBI mole. wapo.st
455 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:02:00am |
re: #454 Stanley Sea
Good morning. Great catch, gonna page it?
456 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:06:18am |
re: #454 Stanley Sea
That’s fucking terrible.
In the Irvine case, Monteilh’s mission as an informant backfired. Muslims were so alarmed by his talk of violent jihad that they obtained a restraining order against him.
That’s good to hear, but why the hell was he talking about violent jihad, rather than just looking for others talking of it?
This part is funny-sad:
“The community feels betrayed,” said Shakeel Syed, executive director of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, an umbrella group of more than 75 mosques.
“They got a guy, a bona fide criminal, and obviously trained him and sent him to infiltrate mosques,” Syed said. “And when things went sour, they ditched him and he got mad. It’s like a soap opera, for God’s sake.”
458 | Stanley Sea Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:06:33am |
re: #455 Rightwingconspirator
Good morning. Great catch, gonna page it?
Got it from an Ebert tweet.
Will you page it? I’m in fail mode with my computer these days, cannot grab the bookmarklet anymore. Weird, I tried for days and just gave up.
Good morn to you too. I believe rain is on the way!
459 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:08:56am |
re: #456 Obdicut
That’s fucking terrible.
That’s good to hear, but why the hell was he talking about violent jihad, rather than just looking for others talking of it?
This part is funny-sad:
It sounds like they used a really inappropriate informant. The part that slays me is that the guy is apparently now approaching Muslims in the gym to apologize for being a jackass.
460 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:09:08am |
461 | Max Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:10:46am |
Ever wonder what Hot Air readers think about the John Birch Society?
Surprisingly, the results are fairly mixed.
462 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:11:46am |
463 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:14:42am |
re: #459 SanFranciscoZionist
Informants are always a tricky goddamn business. Using a guy who’s an ordinary criminal to look for terrorism— and, in this case, incite it— is really damn dumb.
Muslims have been giving good information to the FBI. This is going to hurt that. Was it really worth it to risk all that in order to get this informant douchebag to try to find someone he could entrap into agreeing to commit terrorism?
Stupidly short-sighted.
464 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:19:27am |
465 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:20:54am |
466 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:22:10am |
re: #465 HoosierHoops
Dear Lawd..
Help Walter be a better comedy writer
I wasn’t kidding about my prayer request. And I suspect you will honor it… right? Considering your header… “We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..” I would hope you would.
467 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:27:50am |
re: #466 Walter L. Newton
Walter:
A) You’re an atheist, so you don’t really hope that God helps them.
B) You don’t know the GOP senators. You have no personal connection to them. That’s what Hoops meant by it being a list for Lizards.
C) Every normal cliche sounds better if you change one of the words to “lion”.
468 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:29:35am |
re: #467 Obdicut
Walter:
A) You’re an atheist, so you don’t really hope that God helps them.
B) You don’t know the GOP senators. You have no personal connection to them. That’s what Hoops meant by it being a list for Lizards.
C) Every normal cliche sounds better if you change one of the words to “lion”.
Are you taking care of the prayer list now? I don’t think so… toss off…. I was requesting this from HH.
469 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:31:05am |
re: #466 Walter L. Newton
I wasn’t kidding about my prayer request. And I suspect you will honor it… right? Considering your header… “We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..” I would hope you would.
Politics and religion don’t mix.. I won’t be posting for the GOP or the Dems or Washington or China or France etc
I’d be happy to add your family or a friend Walter…
470 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:31:19am |
re: #468 Walter L. Newton
Ah, come on, Walter. Turn that lion upside down.
471 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:32:07am |
re: #470 Obdicut
Ah, come on, Walter. Turn that lion upside down.
or loin. either word adds a great deal…
472 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:32:27am |
re: #469 HoosierHoops
Politics and religion don’t mix.. I won’t be posting for the GOP or the Dems or Washington or China or France etc
I’d be happy to add your family or a friend Walter…
Fine… I’ll remember this.
474 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:34:18am |
re: #471 Aceofwhat?
When life gives you lemons, make a lion.
475 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:35:18am |
re: #473 jaunte
You can tell a lot about a man from his lion.
Behind every successful man is a lion.
A lion is forever.
476 | Stanley Sea Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:35:38am |
If at first you don’t succeed, lion lion again.
(bad)
478 | jaunte Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:36:36am |
re: #475 Obdicut
The mass of men lead lions of quiet desperation.
479 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:37:43am |
re: #474 Obdicut
When life gives you lemons, make a lion.
I like to gird my loins. But not with lemons.
480 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:38:08am |
This guy is getting cleverer and cleverer…
WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant ‘Insurance’ File if Shut Down
Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.
One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.
Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.
481 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:38:23am |
I regret that i have but one loin to give to my country.
483 | Kronocide Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:39:54am |
re: #463 Obdicut
Informants are always a tricky goddamn business. Using a guy who’s an ordinary criminal to look for terrorism— and, in this case, incite it— is really damn dumb.
Muslims have been giving good information to the FBI. This is going to hurt that. Was it really worth it to risk all that in order to get this informant douchebag to try to find someone he could entrap into agreeing to commit terrorism?
Stupidly short-sighted.
Oh gawd what a mess in LA. The FBI has some serious patching up to do, then they need to work on their informant policies. It’s great the Muslims were reporting him, I can’t wait for Harpy’s comments on that.
484 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:40:13am |
re: #481 Aceofwhat?
I regret that i have but one loin to give to my country.
Have you no empathy for the tender-loins of LGF?
//
485 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:40:25am |
re: #482 jaunte
You know what they say about March, in like a lion, out like a lion.
486 | jaunte Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:40:42am |
Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.
487 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:41:15am |
re: #480 Walter L. Newton
This guy is getting cleverer and cleverer…
WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant ‘Insurance’ File if Shut Down
Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.
One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.
Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
Addendum…
Assange warned: “We have over a long period of time distributed encrypted backups of material we have yet to release. All we have to do is release the password to that material, and it is instantly available.”
This guy has read Digital Fortress one time too many.
488 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:41:54am |
489 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:12am |
re: #486 jaunte
Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.
If you order right now..We’ll double your order of Lions..Pay only separate Shipping and Handling
490 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:12am |
re: #486 jaunte
Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.
Wikileaks documents reveal that Big Oil has been reaping in massive profits on the backs of Americans while sending emails to each other in the background!
//
491 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:32am |
The public interest is best served by the free exchange of lions.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little lion deserve neither liberty nor lion.
492 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:44am |
re: #486 jaunte
Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.
I like the part where he’s going to reveal information about BP. Because, you know, their reputation is at stake//
493 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:43:20am |
re: #491 Obdicut
The public interest is best served by the free exchange of lions.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little lion deserve neither liberty nor lion.
That explains the lionization of Assange.
/
494 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:43:29am |
re: #458 Stanley Sea
Okay will do. Yup light rain I think. D_L says Hi to all. Heh, gonna be a natural follow on to the Feds warrantless credit card tracking.
495 | jaunte Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:43:33am |
re: #490 Gus 802
BP internal emails said to indicate ‘careless attitude’ about potential lion spills.
496 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:44:01am |
re: #492 Aceofwhat?
I like the part where he’s going to reveal information about BP. Because, you know, their reputation is at stake//
“The military papers on Guantanamo Bay, yet to be published, have been supplied by Bradley Manning, Assange’s primary source until his arrest in May. Other documents that Assange is confirmed to possess include an aerial video of a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan that killed civilians, BP files and Bank of America documents.”
497 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:45:17am |
re: #495 jaunte
BP internal emails said to indicate ‘careless attitude’ about potential lion spills.
Lions! We’re sorry. — Tony Hayward
498 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:45:59am |
re: #496 Walter L. Newton
“The military papers on Guantanamo Bay, yet to be published, have been supplied by Bradley Manning, Assange’s primary source until his arrest in May. Other documents that Assange is confirmed to possess include an aerial video of a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan that killed civilians, BP files and Bank of America documents.”
The BP files are still the best part. It’s not like they contributed heavily to a massive oil spill or anything…oh, wait…
499 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:48:10am |
Further…
“AP - WikiLeaks’s main server in France has gone offline, preventing many users from accessing the U.S. State Department cables and other documents the site has posted online, a group of Swiss supporters said Sunday.
The president of the Swiss Pirate Party, which controls the wikileaks.ch Web address, said he was in the process of pointing that domain name to a different server, apparently based in Sweden.
“The WikiLeaks server in France seems to have been switched off,” Denis Simonet told The Associated Press.
“We’re now pointing the domain to another address,” he added. “That’s going to take a few hours.””
500 | Kronocide Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:48:34am |
re: #498 Aceofwhat?
The BP files are still the best part. It’s not like they contributed heavily to a massive oil spill or anything…oh, wait…
I’m sure Joe “I’m Sorry BP” Barton would be sweating it if Assange really has something up his sleeve.
(sinister laugh, pinkie finger sticking up)
501 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:52:01am |
re: #500 BigPapa
I’m sure Joe “I’m Sorry BP” Barton would be sweating it if Assange really has something up his sleeve.
(sinister laugh, pinkie finger sticking up)
Yeah, i don’t know…was he covering something up? I thought he was just being an idiot.
502 | Kronocide Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:53:53am |
re: #501 Aceofwhat?
Yeah, i don’t know…was he covering something up? I thought he was just being an idiot.
I don’t know, but I wonder if he sent a longer ‘no, really Tony, I feel bad for you. I hope this isn’t too bad for you guys.
Are we still on next weekend for bringing the wife and kids on the yacht? They’re really excited!’
503 | Stanley Sea Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:58:42am |
Tis education forms the common mind;
Just as the lion is bent, the tree’s inclined.
Alexander Lionpope
505 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:00:03am |
Julian Assange:
For the past four years one of our goals has been to lionise the source who take the real risks in nearly every journalistic disclosure and without whose efforts, journalists would be nothing. If indeed it is the case, as alleged by the Pentagon, that the young soldier - Bradley Manning - is behind some of our recent disclosures, then he is without doubt an unparalleled hero.
506 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:03:25am |
re: #505 Walter L. Newton
Julian Assange:
For the past four years one of our goals has been to lionise the source who take the real risks in nearly every journalistic disclosure and without whose efforts, journalists would be nothing. If indeed it is the case, as alleged by the Pentagon, that the young soldier - Bradley Manning - is behind some of our recent disclosures, then he is without doubt an unparalleled hero.[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]
Lionise!
507 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:04:52am |
You can’t hide your lion eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you’d realize
There ain’t no way to hide your lionise
OK, you can groan now.
508 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:06:39am |
re: #504 Gus 802
WikiLeaks: Saudis Largest Source of Terror Funds! Film @ 11.
I don’t think the seriousness of the Wikileaks document release has anything to do with the present contents of the material that Assange released.
But this whole episode does speak to the future possibilities of someone like Assange holding a real “ace in the hole” that could be capable of doing massive damage to lives and/or worldwide security.
Assange is just a foretaste of what could really happen, that’s the real message in all this.
509 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:23:04am |
Ok… I’ll talk about something else besides Assange… just come back.
510 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:24:58am |
re: #480 Walter L. Newton
Heh. I can only wonder what secrets are located on my HDD.
511 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:25:42am |
re: #510 Sergey Romanov
Heh. I can only wonder what secrets are located on my HDD.
What’s the matter… he didn’t give you the key yet?
512 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:27:14am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
Guess.
513 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:27:22am |
re: #510 Sergey Romanov
Could be a bunch of file porn.
I’d never download an encrypted file I didn’t know the contents of, even if that sentence is rather semantically tricky.
514 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:28:20am |
re: #513 Obdicut
Well, it doesn’t beg for porridge, as we say.
515 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:29:08am |
re: #514 Sergey Romanov
You mean it doesn’t beg for lions.
516 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:29:21am |
re: #512 Sergey Romanov
Guess.
Well, according the the articles I’ve read this morning, both in the British papers, France 24 English language version and Le Monde, no one has been given the key… yet.
517 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:29:54am |
re: #515 Obdicut
No, the lion doesn’t beg for porridge.
518 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:30:32am |
re: #517 Sergey Romanov
519 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:30:52am |
re: #516 Walter L. Newton
Correct.
521 | Walter L. Newton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:31:59am |
522 | Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:32:51am |
re: #514 Sergey Romanov
Well, it doesn’t beg for porridge, as we say.
re: #515 Obdicut
You mean it doesn’t beg for lions.
re: #517 Sergey Romanov
No, the lion doesn’t beg for porridge.
Coming into this thread (true of any thread really) without reading most of the latter comments has lead to some major confusion in my meagre brain.
523 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:33:30am |
524 | lostlakehiker Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:33:55am |
re: #335 Gus 802
In other news…
N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects
Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?
Wind turbines pose health risks. They really do.
You might be watching one spin, raptly mesmerized, and drive into a tree. That could hurt your health.
You might go hang-gliding and fly into one. That could really damage your health.
You might buy some suction cups and rope gear and try climbing one, and fall.
You might spend all your money fighting to get them out of your neighborhood, defined as the next state over, and find yourself unable to buy food. That could damage your nutritional balance.
Or you might find yourself convinced by all of the above. Plus, wind turbines cause autism, they damage the immune system, their electricity comes from counterclockwise spinning electrons which upsets the shi balance of homes powered by them, and seeing them spin causes epileptic fits.
The process of coming to believe all that is called, in carefully medical terminology,
going bonkers.
Some environmentalists just don’t get it, that to have a civilization and also protect most of the environment, you must accept that not every last patch of land can be protected from human agency.
525 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:34:00am |
526 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:38:01am |
Tea Party Nation President Says It ‘Makes A Lot Of Sense’ To Restrict Voting Only To Property Owners
PHILLIPS: The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasn’t you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if you’re a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If you’re not a property owner, you know, I’m sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners.
527 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:38:01am |
re: #524 lostlakehiker
Some environmentalists just don’t get it, that to have a civilization and also protect most of the environment, you must accept that not every last patch of land can be protected from human agency.
Did you not bother to read the story? The environmentalists are the ones fighting to get the wind power allowed to be built near houses.
When state Sen. Sean Kean saw the fierce opposition a proposed wind turbine stirred in his shore-area district, he came up with a solution: bar the construction of industrial electricity-generating windmills within 2,000 feet of any residentially zoned land.
But in the most densely populated state in the nation, environmentalists say it’s a case of “not in my backyard” gone wild. They say it would make it nearly impossible to put windmills on land along the wind-swept Jersey Shore.
This is environmentalists fighting against NIMBY. The bill restricting the wind power was proposed by Kean, who’s a Republican.
528 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:38:48am |
Now Gingrich is using the Wikileaks documents release to call the administration ‘shallow’ and ‘amateurish’. Somehow, I’m pretty sure there’s a moral disconnect there by him using those leaks to make that assessment. Imagine if you will had they released the State Department documents during the Bush White House years. If I remember correctly, the Bush White House used to always claim that most of the State Department was out of their control and populated by civil servant lifers.
529 | Kragar Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:40:46am |
re: #528 Gus 802
I find Newt using the word shallow to be highly ironic.
530 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:40:47am |
re: #528 Gus 802
Now Gingrich is using the Wikileaks documents release to call the administration ‘shallow’ and ‘amateurish’. Somehow, I’m pretty sure there’s a moral disconnect there by him using those leaks to make that assessment. Imagine if you will had they released the State Department documents during the Bush White House years. If I remember correctly, the Bush White House used to always claim that most of the State Department was out of their control and populated by civil servant lifers.
[Link: thehill.com…]
Looks like the bag of hot air is actually trying to blame White House for the Manning leak. Let’s see. That was a result of OPSEC procedures put in place by which administration?
531 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:41:47am |
re: #528 Gus 802
I think calling an administration ‘shallow’ is a pretty shallow accusation, really.
I haven’t actually heard a good explanation for why Manning did have access to all those cables. Does anyone know the actual story?
532 | reine.de.tout Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:42:27am |
534 | reine.de.tout Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:43:16am |
535 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:44:18am |
536 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:44:45am |
re: #531 Obdicut
I think calling an administration ‘shallow’ is a pretty shallow accusation, really.
I haven’t actually heard a good explanation for why Manning did have access to all those cables. Does anyone know the actual story?
I think it was due in part because of shared information. The DoD had direct access to State Department documents — i.e. secret diplomatic cables. That’s since be revised. Don’t know the details which may or may not be revealed during the military trial. Given that it will be a military CM I doubt we’ll get many details for security reasons. Unless of course they’re leaked.
537 | Aceofwhat? Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:47:52am |
538 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:48:24am |
Damage control as State Department reins in access
The department has pledged to review how classified information should be shared in future.
State Department spokesman Philip Crowley confirmed yesterday that the database link to a specific network - later confirmed to be the Pentagon - had been temporarily severed.
“We have made some adjustments and temporarily narrowed the access to these documents, as we and others work through the implications of this leak and make sure that we have taken the appropriate steps so that it will not happen again,” Mr Crowley said.
A day after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned the WikiLeaks disclosures for putting people in danger and called them illegal, her department launched a vigilant defence of the work performed by diplomats.
With cables indicating officials under Mrs Clinton’s leadership had been asked to collect personal information while working in embassies around the world, Mr Crowley denied that spying was part of their job description.
“Diplomats are diplomats and their job is to interact with people, gather information, gain a perspective of events around the world, and report on those findings in a way that helps inform our policies and inform our actions,” he said. “They are not intelligence assets.”
The State Department’s temporary restriction of access to diplomatic cables comes after US government agencies were criticised for not sharing information in the lead-up to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks there…
I’m sure we all remember the criticism of the lack of inter-agency sharing of intelligence. That changed after 911. Now, if Gingrich wants to play this game, we might want to ask who put the OPSEC procedures in place that allowed Manning access to those documents.
539 | Gus Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:55:05am |
From June.
U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe
Manning told Lamo that he enlisted in the Army in 2007 and held a Top Secret/SCI clearance, details confirmed by his friends and family members. He claimed to have been rummaging through classified military and government networks for more than a year and said that the networks contained “incredible things, awful things … that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC.”
See! He joined the Army in 2007 and probably got his Top Secret/SCI clearance soon after or at least by 2008. This was during the Bush Administration! Clearly, it’s Bush’s fault!
/Gingrich logic.
//