1 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:13:05pm

Ladies and gentlemen the third and final LGF troll cat of the evening!

jamesfirecat.deviantart.com

Tah-dah!

2 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:16:12pm

ET call cops… bicycle was stolen.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:16:52pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

Ladies and gentlemen the third and final LGF troll cat of the evening!

[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]

Tah-dah!

Loves it.

4 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:19:02pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Loves it.

Thanks if you want Dark…

This Image

Image: cat_fairy.jpg

+ This page

wigflip.com

Can let you make one that says more or less the same thing but in reverse to lampoon someone claiming their has to be a balance between that the Republicans have to be just as bad as the Democrats for foolish reasons…

5 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:19:10pm

/OK… so maybe that is why health care insurance is sooo expensive?

6 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:19:59pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

Ladies and gentlemen the third and final LGF troll cat of the evening!

[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]

Tah-dah!


re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Loves it.

Must be kept handy. At the ready.

7 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:21:49pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Must be kept handy. At the ready.

the thumb switch on the left side is the safety… thought you should know.

8 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:22:22pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Must be kept handy. At the ready.

Huh that brings to mind an interesting question for a feature that I don’ t think Charles has made yet… is there a way to tell if who has favorited one of your posts?

9 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:24:25pm

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Huh that brings to mind an interesting question for a feature that I don’ t think Charles has made yet… is there a way to tell if who has favorited one of your posts?

Yeah, just click on the # (be it 4 or -40)

10 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:25:00pm

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Just sent you a test.

11 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:25:39pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

Just sent you a test.

oh, cool - are we downdinging jamesfirecat for science? i’m in/

12 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:26:42pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

Just sent you a test.

It either isn’t working or I’m not looking in the right place where is this “#” suppose to be?

13 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:26:46pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

Yeah, just click on the # (be it 4 or -40)

I don’t think he meant how to tell who updinged/downdinged your post, but who saved it as a Favorite (i.e. clicked the little heart icon)

14 jaunte  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:27:50pm

That video makes me want to go up to the top of a mountain again.
Have to wait for the snow to melt off.

15 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:29:32pm

re: #13 publicityStunted

I don’t think he meant how to tell who updinged/downdinged your post, but who saved it as a Favorite (i.e. clicked the little heart icon)

Yeah that’s exactly what I’m talking about, and last time I checked there isn’t a way to do that, though obviously being “newish” to LGF I can’t claim to know all the nifty features Charles has made use of, but it’d be cool if you could tell when someone was so impressed by a post of yours they faved it, without them having to come out and tell you in a post…

16 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:32:47pm

re: #12 jamesfirecat

It either isn’t working or I’m not looking in the right place where is this “#” suppose to be?

The actual number next to the - & + icons.

Is # already outdated?

17 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:33:30pm

re: #13 publicityStunted

I don’t think he meant how to tell who updinged/downdinged your post, but who saved it as a Favorite (i.e. clicked the little heart icon)

Ohhh, totally misunderstood James. Sorry James! Favorited. That was the key word I totally blew past. ha

18 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:33:42pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

The actual number next to the - & + icons.

Is # already outdated?

Oh sorry I gotcha, that tells me what my karma value is for that post and who up or down dinged it, but I don’t think it tells me who if anyone has faved a post…

19 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:34:30pm

re: #18 jamesfirecat

I’m kind of in idjit land right now. Bear w/me.

20 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:34:38pm

Hmmm. I was wondering if i should pour myself a gin&tonic or wait for my wife to join me. Silly question. I can have one now and when she sits down with me.

Honestly. Where is my mind going?

21 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:37:40pm

Frank Zappa died on this day in 1993.

:(

22 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:40:27pm

I have to say, John Simm as The Master has quickly made it to the top of my all time favorite villians list

How can you not like someone who has so much fun being evil?

23 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:40:46pm

re: #14 jaunte

That video makes me want to go up to the top of a mountain again.
Have to wait for the snow to melt off.

Sandia Mt behind me….you can rent a dirt bike at the top, fly down a few thousand feet, the grab a chairlift back up…dig that

24 jaunte  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:41:22pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea
New Zappa bust in Baltimore:
flickr.com

25 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:41:30pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

Frank Zappa died on this day in 1993.

:(

I think Lennon was killed on the 8th….mucho sadness

26 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:42:04pm

re: #15 jamesfirecat

I can’t claim to know all the nifty features Charles has made use of, but it’d be cool if you could tell when someone was so impressed by a post of yours they faved it

As far as I’m aware, that feature doesn’t exist, and I kind of doubt Charles would implement it since people can have other, less complimentary reasons for favoriting a post (e.g. “Ha ha, what a dumb comment, must save for posterity/put-down purposes” :P )

27 jaunte  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:42:22pm

re: #23 albusteve

I’ve been up there a while back, watching hang-gliders jump off in the other direction.

28 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:44:57pm

Well I’m glad to see that all things considered my trio of LGF custom troll cats were a success. I may make some more later on if I notice that some statements are worthy of memetic levels of derision… in fact…

wait a moment just like Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy my triollogy is about to become blatantly misnamed….

29 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:46:21pm

re: #27 jaunte

I’ve been up there a while back, watching hang-gliders jump off in the other direction.

I have to take all the tourists up when they visit…it’s pretty cool…my son really loves to go off the back on a bike…there are some spots in the Wasatch in Utah where they glide 30 miles downrange, turn and come back and genty land exactly where they took off

30 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:47:59pm

re: #28 jamesfirecat

Well I’m glad to see that all things considered my trio of LGF custom troll cats were a success. I may make some more later on if I notice that some statements are worthy of memetic levels of derision… in fact…

wait a moment just like Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy my triollogy is about to become blatantly misnamed…

“This is the car park, you ordered a babe wash for your ship. Due to staff shortages, I am your babe.”

31 jaunte  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:49:23pm

re: #29 albusteve

It’s surprising to see someone glide off down into the desert off Sandia peak, and a few minutes later hear them ripping along above the ridge 50 feet overhead. Very cool place.

32 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:52:13pm

Okay folks I thought of one more kind of post that routinely lands someone on the bottom 10 and so here is our very own LGF troll cat to respond to it with!

jamesfirecat.deviantart.com

He just wants to get to the bottom of things after all….

33 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:52:49pm
34 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:54:12pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Drudge fail

///Well it was a tax hike for those making more than $250k a year… you know the important people….

35 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:55:52pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Drudge fail

not only that, but i’m a ‘we shouldn’t automatically discredit a story based on the source’ sort of guy, and even I think that the WaTimes is about as reliable as the Weekly World News…

36 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:58:39pm

re: #35 Aceofwhat?

not only that, but i’m a ‘we shouldn’t automatically discredit a story based on the source’ sort of guy, and even I think that the WaTimes is about as reliable as the Weekly World News…

I think it says something that the Moonie Times was the closest he could find to support his spin and even that wasn’t enough.

37 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:59:11pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Drudge fail

whoops!

38 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 6:59:46pm

Shooting the 3-Barrel Rapid-Fire Pole Cannon

39 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:01:57pm

re: #7 brookly red

the thumb switch on the left side is the safety… thought you should know.

Nice thing about the newest weapons - blowguns - they aren’t saddled with silly things like safety switches.

40 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:02:12pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Shooting the 3-Barrel Rapid-Fire Pole Cannon

[Video]

Hey, isn’t that the thing which the ming soldiers used on Deadliest Warrior?

41 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:02:53pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Shooting the 3-Barrel Rapid-Fire Pole Cannon

[Video]

neat, device

42 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:05:07pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

Frank Zappa died on this day in 1993.

:(

was this not also the last day for Lennon?

43 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:05:21pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

Okay folks I thought of one more kind of post that routinely lands someone on the bottom 10 and so here is our very own LGF troll cat to respond to it with!

[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]

He just wants to get to the bottom of things after all…

Cute cat, and a great use of LOLcat lingo and pics.

44 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:05:54pm

re: #42 brookly red

was this not also the last day for Lennon?

the 8th I think

45 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:07:21pm

re: #42 brookly red

was this not also the last day for Lennon?

12/8. We are almost there. ugh

46 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:07:31pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

How about a butthurt trollcat featuring a cat licking its backside?

47 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:07:48pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

Cute cat, and a great use of LOLcat lingo and pics.

Yeah can’t wait to see what LVQ has to say about it.

Either way my goal was to make it so that whenever one of the three calmly sighted trolling actions pops up (leaving Union Cat off of that least), no longer will we lizards be constrained with always coming up a witty retort, if instead of being forced to come up with a witty retort, we now have a stand by option ready.

Sort of like “Gaze” but in this case its more like “CAT!”

49 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:09:36pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

How about a butthurt trollcat featuring a cat licking its backside?

eh, i don’t know…i mean, i’m an aficionado of shapely backsides, but cat ass licking just leaves a little to be desired, you know/

50 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:10:02pm

re: #48 JasonA

Taliban go boom.

http://www.slashgear.com/xm-25-airburst-smart-gun- fielded-on-us-troops-in-afghanistan-03117613/

you can run, but you can’t hide….I’ve been following the development of this bad boy

51 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:10:12pm

re: #49 Aceofwhat?

eh, i don’t know…i mean, i’m an aficionado of shapely backsides, but cat ass licking just leaves a little to be desired, you know/

ewe

52 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:10:31pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

Hey, isn’t that the thing which the ming soldiers used on Deadliest Warrior?

I’m not sure. I assumed it was European.

53 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:11:09pm

Here’s a good National Review article. It argues Abraham Lincoln as holding some of the views of today’s economic conservatives. Agree or disagree, it is good to see that national Review is holding the line and making sure that the GOP’s greatest hero remains respected and honored by his party.

54 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:07pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I’m not sure. I assumed it was European.

I think the Chinese had the powder, Europe the iron….no doubt European

55 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:32pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

ewe

hey, it wasn’t my idea!

56 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:47pm

re: #48 JasonA

Taliban go boom.

http://www.slashgear.com/xm-25-airburst-smart-gun- fielded-on-us-troops-in-afghanistan-03117613/

One of those weapons that will redefine military doctrine.

57 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:12:50pm

duty calls…hope I survive

58 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:13:29pm

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

One of those weapons that will redefine military doctrine.

FIX BAYONETS!
all over

59 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:13:48pm

re: #57 albusteve

duty calls…hope I survive

holy shit, so do we.

what a queasy stomach reading of posts tonight. THANKS LGF.

60 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:13:50pm

re: #57 albusteve

duty calls…hope I survive

happy cutting…

61 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:13pm

re: #50 albusteve

you can run, but you can’t hide…I’ve been following the development of this bad boy

Yeah, it’s a great system. That the war has gone on this long is bad, but the good news is that we’ve been able to finally get our next-generation weapons into the fight. And the troops who use those weapons are kicking some serious Islamist ass.

62 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:22pm

re: #54 albusteve

I think the Chinese had the powder, Europe the iron…no doubt European

My gun history is rusty. I think most of the Chinese gunpowder weapons of the era were mostly crude rockets.

63 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:41pm

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

One of those weapons that will redefine military doctrine.

military & doctrine are famous last words…

64 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:14:42pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

ewe

Ewe

65 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:15:13pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

How about a butthurt trollcat featuring a cat licking its backside?

Sorry Dark, the cats I found all looked far too content and happy to be playing around with their back door…

Have a lgf troll dog instead!

jamesfirecat.deviantart.com

66 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:03pm

re: #64 b_sharp

Ewe

It always seemed grammatically correct!

67 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:11pm

re: #58 albusteve

FIX BAYONETS!
all over

No it’s not. Our troops still use the bayonet at times. Because the enemy does not fight well hand to hand, the bayonet still has a role to play.

68 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:17pm

re: #63 brookly red

military & doctrine are famous last words…

Use of cover as a defense against incoming fire has been a pretty effectice doctrine for a few centuries. Against a squad based, programmable air burst weapon, not so much.

69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:16:51pm

re: #57 albusteve

duty calls…hope I survive

I you don’t, let us know and I’ll drink a toast to you.

70 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:17:15pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Use of cover as a defense against incoming fire has been a pretty effectice doctrine for a few centuries. Against a squad based, programmable air burst weapon, not so much.

we don’t need no stinking badges…

71 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:17:58pm

re: #65 jamesfirecat

Sorry Dark, the cats I found all looked far too content and happy to be playing around with their back door…

Have a lgf troll dog instead!

[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]

Perfect! Thank you!

72 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:19:50pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Use of cover as a defense against incoming fire has been a pretty effectice doctrine for a few centuries. Against a squad based, programmable air burst weapon, not so much.

You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?

F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.

Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!

73 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:00pm

re: #72 jamesfirecat

You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?

F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.

Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!

WHAT

74 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:31pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

WHAT

Warhammer 40K, hun.

75 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:33pm

re: #72 jamesfirecat

You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?

F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.

Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!

You always have to roll to wound, because a 1 never wounds.

Says the IG officer laughing off a lascannon shot.

76 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:21:49pm

re: #72 jamesfirecat

You mean we’ve got a way around cover saves?

F*** yes, I for one am tired of those t-shirt wearing, flashlight firing Gue’vesa, getting what amounts to an AP save against my fire warrior’s plasma rifles.

Do we know what its S is? If it’s double their T we won’t need a to wound roll either, and it wont matter how many wounds they have!

Whoa, there guy. Come back to reality. Small steps, son, take small steps and you’ll be alright.

77 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:22:07pm

Niiceee

Hope you aren’t at the game Charles.

BreakingNews

2 stabbed, 3 arrested during brawl among 50-75 fans before USC-UCLA game - latimes.com lat.ms

78 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:22:12pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

Okay folks I thought of one more kind of post that routinely lands someone on the bottom 10 and so here is our very own LGF troll cat to respond to it with!

[Link: jamesfirecat.deviantart.com…]

He just wants to get to the bottom of things after all…

You should put all of these on a Page. Makes it that much easier to have them at the ready :)

79 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:23:43pm

re: #76 b_sharp

Whoa, there guy. Come back to reality. Small steps, son, take small steps and you’ll be alright.

It’s Saturday nite… we reduce the meds. Mostly for the entertainment of the orderly s…

80 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:23:44pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

WHAT

i didn’t know either, if it makes you feel better…but i just chalked it up to james being james and rolled with it;)

81 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:24:20pm

the unsinkable pygmy gecko

82 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:25:58pm

re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You always have to roll to wound, because a 1 never wounds.

Says the IG officer laughing off a lascannon shot.

Damn you’re right.

Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…

83 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:26:12pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Niiceee

Hope you aren’t at the game Charles.

BreakingNews

2 stabbed, 3 arrested during brawl among 50-75 fans before USC-UCLA game - latimes.com [Link: lat.ms…]

Council insists I remind you I am 3,000 miles away…

84 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:27:27pm

re: #82 jamesfirecat

Damn you’re right.

Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…

James, your BS value is already through the roof.;P

85 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:27:42pm

re: #82 jamesfirecat

Damn you’re right.

Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…

your BS value has peaked… sorry.

86 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:27:44pm

re: #82 jamesfirecat

Damn you’re right.

Still if we can ignore cover and AP saves, that’s good, and I hear the thing comes with some kind of range finger that is bound to increase our BS values as well… the fewer dice we need to roll to kill them the better and 2+ are near as good as not rolling…

well, i’ve never played Warhammer, but i think that i can state for the record that your range finger is definitely increasing your BS value/

87 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:28:04pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

the unsinkable pygmy gecko

[Video]

So it’s true: Charles really can walk on water!

88 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:28:37pm

wow…we were on that like rats on a cheeto

89 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:28:40pm

re: #83 brookly red

Council insists I remind you I am 3,000 miles away…

Your alibi is suspect, we know there is no range limit on mind control.

90 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:29:10pm

re: #85 brookly red

your BS value has peaked… sorry.

Beat’cha.

91 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:29:13pm

You know what I haven’t said today? (I’m going to say it till, whenever)

John McCain is either going senile or is one of the slimiest pols I’ve ever had the privilege to follow.

And I saw him at an event in 2000. Shook his damn slimy hand.

92 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:05pm

re: #88 Aceofwhat?

wow…we were on that like rats on a cheeto

BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.

In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…

93 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:24pm

re: #89 b_sharp

Your alibi is suspect, we know there is no range limit on mind control.

shut up & send the check…

94 jaunte  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:33pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Someone is going to figure out a hydrophobic material for raincoats, etc. based on that gecko skin.

95 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:44pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Sorry, but downding.

96 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:30:49pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

the unsinkable pygmy gecko

[Video]

Attenborough, no I don’t think so, but the voice!!

97 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:31:37pm

re: #92 jamesfirecat

BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.

In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…

BS in the here and now… well I hate to be the one to have to tell you.

98 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:09pm

re: #92 jamesfirecat

BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.

In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…

Herp for the Derp God! Lulz for the lul throne!

99 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:15pm

re: #92 jamesfirecat

BS= Ballistic Skill in Warhammer 40K.

In the Grim Dark Future of the 41rst Millenium there is only war… and acronym based humor…

and range fingers?

100 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:15pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

D_F!! He’s a FLIP FLOPPER MOVE THE GOAL POSTS false maverick. Gah.

101 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:32:32pm

re: #93 brookly red

shut up & send the check…

It’s in the mail.

102 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:33:19pm

re: #101 b_sharp

It’s in the mail.

good… now forget this ever happened.

103 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:33:37pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a good National Review article. It argues Abraham Lincoln as holding some of the views of today’s economic conservatives. Agree or disagree, it is good to see that national Review is holding the line and making sure that the GOP’s greatest hero remains respected and honored by his party.

It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?

‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.

104 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:34:05pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, but downding.

My karma is going to suck, because I’m making it a point to make that statement daily. Deal.

105 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:34:38pm

re: #102 brookly red

good… now forget this ever happened.

Huh? Forget what?

106 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:34:54pm

re: #99 Aceofwhat?

and range fingers?

I meant to type “Finders” thank you very much…

107 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:35:29pm

re: #105 b_sharp

Huh? Forget what?

that Stanley dissed McCain.

108 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:35:31pm

re: #103 sagehen

It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?

‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.

non sequitur.

the economy of 150 years ago is to today’s economy as tupperware is to the lute. quite unrelated.

109 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:35:47pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

My karma is going to suck, because I’m making it a point to make that statement daily. Deal.

You get more people agreeing with you than disagreeing with you. The karma will take care of itself.

110 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:36:53pm

re: #109 b_sharp

You get more people agreeing with you than disagreeing with you. The karma will take care of itself.

I work in advertising…

111 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:37:13pm

re: #106 jamesfirecat

I meant to type “Finders” thank you very much…

We only tease you because we love you - and you’re an easy target.

112 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:37:30pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

the unsinkable pygmy gecko

[Video]

We have these little guys in the yard.

113 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:38:23pm

re: #110 brookly red

I work in advertising…

Going for the sympathy vote are you?

114 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:38:37pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

You know what I haven’t said today? (I’m going to say it till, whenever)

John McCain is either going senile or is one of the slimiest pols I’ve ever had the privilege to follow.

And I saw him at an event in 2000. Shook his damn slimy hand.

We’ve been debating this on the other site I hang out at:

Did McCain change, or is this who he always was and it just took awhile for us to realize it?

115 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:39:47pm

re: #108 Aceofwhat?

non sequitur.

the economy of 150 years ago is to today’s economy as tupperware is to the lute. quite unrelated.

The Republican party of 150 years ago were the wild-eyed liberals (The Good Guys). That held, diminished, until at least TR had to bolt for the Bull Moose. The Dems at the eve of Secession were RW. Some still are.

116 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:40:03pm

re: #113 b_sharp

Going for the sympathy vote are you?

if you look in Webster’s sympathy falls between shit & syphilis…

117 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:40:59pm

re: #114 sagehen

We’ve been debating this on the other site I hang out at:

Did McCain change, or is this who he always was and it just took awhile for us to realize it?

He has become the chameleon years of torture made him. He had to learn to bend in the direction of the blowing wind or else break.

118 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:41:08pm

It’s pie night. What kind of pie shall I have? The kind of pie that takes bacon hot sauce. A rich, tropical sort of pie.

HAM AND PINEAPPLE!

119 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:41:12pm

re: #114 sagehen

We’ve been debating this on the other site I hang out at:

Did McCain change, or is this who he always was and it just took awhile for us to realize it?

I honestly don’t know.

My belief is that South Carolina changed him - he saw the true soul of the GOP base and just what it would take to make him popular/electable at a national level with them.

120 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:41:54pm

If we can get off the subject of my difficulties with the English Language, I followed up the advice I was given and there is now a page dedicated to tonights Troll Cats delivered in wonderfully over exuberant infomercial style, leaving aside the questionable “Union Cat” which I don’t think we’ll see quite as much of and only want to bring out when 100% needed.

Anywhere here is the page!

littlegreenfootballs.com

121 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:43:42pm

re: #118 eclectic infidel

It’s pie night. What kind of pie shall I have? The kind of pie that takes bacon hot sauce. A rich, tropical sort of pie.

HAM AND PINEAPPLE!

your nick is “infidel” for a reason…

122 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:44:37pm

re: #114 sagehen

Excellent debate. The guy has either been a complete fraud or is going senile imo. Just watch the 2008 campaign stuff, he’s gone against almost every thing he said.

May I ask what other site? I’m just curious to find other places with chat. LGF is pretty much on it’s own in that way, and I love it, but I can multi task.

123 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:02pm

re: #121 brookly red

your nick is “infidel” for a reason…

arm the torpedoes

124 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:25pm

re: #108 Aceofwhat?

the economy of 150 years ago is to today’s economy as tupperware is to the lute. quite unrelated.

It most certainly was.

By 1860 there were approximately 4,000,000 slaves in the United States, the second largest slave society—slave population—in the world. The only one larger was Russian serfdom. Brazil was close. But in 1860 American slaves, as a financial asset, were worth approximately three and a half billion dollars—that’s just as property. Three and a half billion dollars was the net worth, roughly, of slaves in 1860. In today’s dollars that would be approximately seventy-five billion dollars. In 1860 slaves as an asset were worth more than all of America’s manufacturing, all of the railroads, all of the productive capacity of the United States put together. Slaves were the single largest, by far, financial asset of property in the entire American economy. The only thing worth more than the slaves in the American economy of the 1850s was the land itself, and no one can really put a dollar value on all of the land of North America.


(david blight)

125 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:52pm

re: #123 Aceofwhat?

arm the torpedoes

contact! surface, range 9,000… bearing 135.

126 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:45:56pm

re: #103 sagehen

It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?

‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.

Yes, it does discuss the matter of infrastructure. And its not railroads conservatives don’t favor, its public transit rail services receiving subsidies they don’t tend to like. It’s one of those things where I don’t agree with much of my party, mostly because of where I live. Metra is a great asset to the Chicago area, and not something we could do without. The amount of cars it takes out of commuting duty saves the area millions each year. CTA ‘L’ trains do the same thing.

127 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:46:03pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, but downding.

Sorry, but downdinging your downding.

128 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:47:06pm

re: #127 JasonA

Sorry, but downdinging your downding.

that way lays madness.

129 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:47:38pm

re: #127 JasonA

Sorry, but downdinging your downding.

open silos.

130 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:47:45pm

re: #120 jamesfirecat

If we can get off the subject of my difficulties with the English Language, I followed up the advice I was given and there is now a page dedicated to tonights Troll Cats delivered in wonderfully over exuberant infomercial style, leaving aside the questionable “Union Cat” which I don’t think we’ll see quite as much of and only want to bring out when 100% needed.

Anywhere here is the page!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

James, you have no difficulties with the English language.

The union cat is the best of the bunch.

131 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:49:11pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Excellent debate. The guy has either been a complete fraud or is going senile imo. Just watch the 2008 campaign stuff, he’s gone against almost every thing he said.

May I ask what other site? I’m just curious to find other places with chat. LGF is pretty much on it’s own in that way, and I love it, but I can multi task.

If he had walked away a few years ago, both sides would remember him as a statesman. Now he will be Dr. Frankenstein.

132 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:49:31pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Yes, it does discuss the matter of infrastructure. And its not railroads conservatives don’t favor, its public transit rail services receiving subsidies they don’t tend to like. It’s one of those things where I don’t agree with much of my party, mostly because of where I live. Metra is a great asset to the Chicago area, and not something we could do without. The amount of cars it takes out of commuting duty saves the area millions each year. CTA ‘L’ trains do the same thing.

Washington is the same way, the city streets were laid out to make it impossible for the British to invade… part of the reason I can get by without a car is that my work is only 4 blocks from Metro and metro stop is only like two blocks or so from my house, though my dad or brother can give me a ride to the metro from home and vice versa at least most days.

Still even those 4 blocks is getting to be pretty long as it gets colder… if it weren’t for the metro I would have had to spend a lot less time playing videogames and a lot more learning how to drive…

133 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:49:31pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Yes, it does discuss the matter of infrastructure. And its not railroads conservatives don’t favor, its public transit rail services receiving subsidies they don’t tend to like. It’s one of those things where I don’t agree with much of my party, mostly because of where I live. Metra is a great asset to the Chicago area, and not something we could do without. The amount of cars it takes out of commuting duty saves the area millions each year. CTA ‘L’ trains do the same thing.

very reasonable and none-doctrinaire.

it’s a public good.

Its - essentially also the very same argument the left uses to support more government subsidised healthcare.

134 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:50:41pm

re: #130 b_sharp

James, you have no difficulties with the English language.

The union cat is the best of the bunch.

haven’t seen union cat……….

135 brookly red  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:50:53pm

re: #133 wozzablog

very reasonable and none-doctrinaire.

it’s a public good.

Its - essentially also the very same argument the left uses to support more government subsidised healthcare.

I think it’s time for me to go shoot some pool…

136 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:51:03pm

re: #134 wozzablog

haven’t seen union cat…

Me either. Where is Union Cat?

137 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:51:09pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

If he had walked away a few years ago, both sides would remember him as a statesman. Now he will be Dr. Frankenstein.


You’ve created a monster!

138 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:51:15pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Excellent debate. The guy has either been a complete fraud or is going senile imo. Just watch the 2008 campaign stuff, he’s gone against almost every thing he said.

May I ask what other site? I’m just curious to find other places with chat. LGF is pretty much on it’s own in that way, and I love it, but I can multi task.

ta-nehisi coates, at the atlantic.

Like here, it’s got just the right amount of moderation and host participation in the comments to make for lively discussions with rapid troll removal.

139 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:21pm

good night, good folks-

140 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:36pm

re: #133 wozzablog

very reasonable and none-doctrinaire.

it’s a public good.

Its - essentially also the very same argument the left uses to support more government subsidised healthcare.

The problem is that I see those two matters differently. But I do not wish to have a discussion on health care right now. All it’ll get me is yelled at.

141 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:40pm

re: #139 Aceofwhat?

good night, good folks-

and to the rest of us?>…………………..

142 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:47pm

Since so many people are interested here is “Union Cat” yet again which is a bit more partisan than my other troll cats picking a bone with what I see as an act of semi-trolling but others may see as justified.


jamesfirecat.deviantart.com

If nothing else it is good because god damn I don’t know what they did to that cat but it looks mad as hell….

143 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:52:52pm

re: #135 brookly red

What did Pool do to you? Or is this just business?

144 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:53:14pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that I see those two matters differently. But I do not wish to have a discussion on health care right now. All it’ll get me is yelled at.

I NEVER YELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

145 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:54:18pm
146 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:54:33pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that I see those two matters differently. But I do not wish to have a discussion on health care right now. All it’ll get me is yelled at.

Yeah not to mention honestly even I think it’s a stretch to compare healthcare to mass transit since mass transit, lets not have that argument tonight…

147 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:54:54pm

re: #138 sagehen

ta-nehisi coates, at the atlantic.

Like here, it’s got just the right amount of moderation and host participation in the comments to make for lively discussions with rapid troll removal.

Oh you are excellent.

148 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:55:11pm

re: #139 Aceofwhat?

good night, good folks-

Good night Florida!

149 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:55:50pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

If he had walked away a few years ago, both sides would remember him as a statesman. Now he will be Dr. Frankenstein.

I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.

150 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:56:42pm

re: #146 jamesfirecat

Yeah not to mention honestly even I think it’s a stretch to compare healthcare to mass transit since mass transit, lets not have that argument tonight…

Trust me, i had a really cool analogy ready to go :p

151 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:57:37pm
152 bratwurst  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:57:45pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.

He was never Governor of AZ, but lots of Democrats respected the way he stood up to the swift boaters.

153 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:58:05pm

re: #151 marjoriemoon

James, you so clever!

Please, the trollcats were clever, that was just google fu…

154 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:58:18pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.

Segueing into Sagehen’s mention of Ta-Nehisi Coates, I follow him on twitter and he tweeted that one of his best memories of McCain was McCain’s stance against the MLK holiday.

Did they ever get that in AZ?

155 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:58:31pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

I don’t know about that. I don’t know any Democrats who have love for McCain and that’s from when he was Governor of Arizona.

I saw him as “the opposition”, much like Gerald Ford or GHWB. Plus he had unquestionable service creds. Now he seems a ghost-in-waiting.

156 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:59:00pm

re: #121 brookly red

your nick is “infidel” for a reason…

Ha! The cool thing too, is that Amazona’s is owned and operated by a Brazilian family. Their drivers are warm, lovely people. Piercing blue or green eyes with golden skin and smiles. Time to order.

157 Virginia Plain  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:59:25pm

I love Labyrinth 2.

158 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:00:13pm

re: #152 bratwurst

He was never Governor of AZ, but lots of Democrats respected the way he stood up to the swift boaters.

Oh I’m sorry. I meant Senator.

159 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:00:30pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

Uh, I should receive kudos just to have typed this sentence!!!

Segueing into Sagehen’s

160 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:00:31pm

re: #152 bratwurst

He was never Governor of AZ, but lots of Democrats respected the way he stood up to the swift boaters.

and to the lady who said Obama wasn’t an American.

And - to be honest - thats the point. He has moments where he cuts directly through the noise machine without equivocating and then says:

despite all my pre-conditions for the repeal of DADT being met by the top brass the economy is now too bad…………

161 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:01:12pm

re: #157 Virginia Plain

I love Labyrinth 2.

Why, is Jennifer Connelly naked in that one?

162 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:01:44pm

re: #157 Virginia Plain

I love Labyrinth 2.

Electric boogaloo?

163 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:02:13pm

re: #160 wozzablog

and to the lady who said Obama wasn’t an American.

And - to be honest - thats the point. He has moments where he cuts directly through the noise machine without equivocating and then says:

That sounds like the proud owner of the curved talk wiener mobile, or maybe the reverse motion mumble min-van….

164 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:02:27pm

re: #160 wozzablog

and to the lady who said Obama wasn’t an American.

And - to be honest - thats the point. He has moments where he cuts directly through the noise machine without equivocating and then says:

Ass hole.

he’s a pandering asshole.

Remember Cap & Trade was HIS schtick. Oh yeah, same with campaign finance.

He’s a panderer now. Thanks Tea Party!

165 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:02:37pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

Uh, I should receive kudos just to have typed this sentence!!!

You should, but I twisted my tongue trying to read it out loud and the pain blinded me to your genius.

166 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:03:24pm

re: #165 b_sharp

You should, but I twisted my tongue trying to read it out loud and the pain blinded me to your genius.

Ah, these moments of success.

167 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:01pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Ah, these moments of success.

It seems your success went to my head.

168 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:27pm

‘Nite, all.

169 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:52pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

Ass hole.

he’s a pandering asshole.

Remember Cap & Trade was HIS schtick. Oh yeah, same with campaign finance.

He’s a panderer now. Thanks Tea Party!

He was pandering pre-tea party. They made it much worse though by piutting Hayworth up against him. Yet another wake up call for him about where is bread is buttered with the base.

170 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:57pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

Segueing into Sagehen’s mention of Ta-Nehisi Coates, I follow him on twitter and he tweeted that one of his best memories of McCain was McCain’s stance against the MLK holiday.

Did they ever get that in AZ?

Yea, it is now. He worked with Dems in the Senate on some legislation, which actually drew criticism from the Right when he was running in 2008. I can’t recall now what it was now, but he has strong conservative views overall. The Right kept calling him a Liberal, but we never claimed him.

171 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:05:59pm

re: #161 b_sharp

Why, is Jennifer Connelly naked in that one?

SMACK!

172 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:07:07pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

Yea, it is now. He worked with Dems in the Senate on some legislation, which actually drew criticism from the Right when he was running in 2008. I can’t recall now what it was now, but he has strong conservative views overall. The Right kept calling him a Liberal, but we never claimed him.

McCain/Feingold.

173 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:07:28pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

I appreciate the smack up-side the head D_F, but could you get Jennifer Connelly to do it next time?

174 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:07:34pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

Yea, it is now. He worked with Dems in the Senate on some legislation, which actually drew criticism from the Right when he was running in 2008. I can’t recall now what it was now, but he has strong conservative views overall. The Right kept calling him a Liberal, but we never claimed him.

Were we even trying to claim him? They call people Liberal and RINO these days like its some weird form of political Tourette Syndrome….

175 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:10pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

Ass hole.

he’s a pandering asshole.

Remember Cap & Trade was HIS schtick. Oh yeah, same with campaign finance.

He’s a panderer now. Thanks Tea Party!

You forgot Immigration Reform.

176 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:12pm

re: #173 b_sharp

I appreciate the smack up-side the head D_F, but could you get Jennifer Connelly to do it next time?

While wearing teenie weenie bikini, preferably.

177 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:23pm

re: #174 jamesfirecat

Were we even trying to claim him? They call people Liberal and RINO these days like its some weird form of political Tourette Syndrome…

Nazi!

178 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:40pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

No, it would be FAP.

179 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:09:54pm

re: #176 eclectic infidel

While wearing teenie weenie bikini, preferably.

That goes without saying.

180 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:10:26pm

re: #179 b_sharp

That goes without saying.

Yes indeed.

181 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:11:52pm

re: #180 eclectic infidel

Yes indeed.

talisman.org

182 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:14:16pm

G’night folks.

183 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:14:21pm

Are any of my fellow portlanders online tonight? I need indoor entertainment ideas for out of town guests. Any ideas?

184 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:15:07pm

re: #175 JasonA

You forgot Immigration Reform.

Build a dang fence to keep those gosh darn mexican kids off of my third house’s lawn!

185 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:15:07pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

Are any of my fellow portlanders online tonight? I need indoor entertainment ideas for out of town guests. Any ideas?

Paint guns at 10 paces.

Now I’m really out.

186 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:15:18pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

Are any of my fellow portlanders online tonight? I need indoor entertainment ideas for out of town guests. Any ideas?

Are they the kind of people who’d enjoy Powell’s?

187 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:16:20pm

re: #186 sagehen

Are they the kind of people who’d enjoy Powell’s?

That was my first idea too.

188 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:17:54pm

At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet….

189 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:18:36pm

Leon Russell, “A Song For You”

190 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:18:59pm

omg, this is why I don’t follow MLB as much anymore.

The Padres have reached an agreement to trade first baseman Adrian Gonzalez to the Boston Red Sox for three minor league prospects plus a player to be named later.

All three of the prospects are 21 or younger.

We suck and I have now dis-owned this team.

Thanks for listening.

191 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:19:36pm

re: #188 jamesfirecat

At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet…

is the Browncoat’s name Malcolm?……………. :p

192 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:20:25pm

re: #188 jamesfirecat

At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet…

Surender Loodwig or we wiil out da kittiez!

193 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:20:58pm

re: #188 jamesfirecat

At some point next week if my luck is good I may be able to make a second batch of LGF troll cats based on my own furry friends. For the sake of their anonymity however they will be referred to only as “Browncoat” and “White Paws” I respect their privacy too much to use their real names on the internet…

Perhaps you’ll be inspired to make Boehner-cat and McConnel-cat and Obama-cat?

194 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:21:40pm

re: #193 sagehen

Perhaps you’ll be inspired to make Boehner-cat and McConnel-cat and Obama-cat?

Obama Cat is very, very urban…

195 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:22:20pm

re: #194 JasonA

Obama Cat is very, very urban…

Top Cat - surely, ed.

196 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:22:34pm

Delta Lady

197 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:22:41pm

re: #193 sagehen

Perhaps you’ll be inspired to make Boehner-cat and McConnel-cat and Obama-cat?

What would that be the Boehner version of a Kitler?

198 Bubblehead II  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:23:08pm

Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Now I am going to get drunk.

Good Night Lizards.

199 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:23:25pm

re: #194 JasonA

Obama Cat is very, very urban…

He’s a hep cat.

200 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:24:04pm

re: #198 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Now I am going to get drunk.

Good Night Lizards.

My deepest condolences.

201 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:25:50pm

re: #198 Bubblehead II

Sadness. You have friends here.

202 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:26:00pm

re: #195 wozzablog

Top Cat - surely, ed.

No, that doesn’t really work. Obama doesn’t have Top Cat’s easy charm and improvisational skills, but he understands the fields he operates in better. Top Cat works on the fly, while Obama prefers to act after a good deal of planning and laying the groundwork.

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:28:12pm

re: #201 Stanley Sea

Sadness. You have friends here.

May his memory be a blessing.

204 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:28:12pm

Hummingbird

205 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:29:52pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

No, that doesn’t really work. Obama doesn’t have Top Cat’s easy charm and improvisational skills, but he understands the fields he operates in better. Top Cat works on the fly, while Obama prefers to act after a good deal of planning and laying the groundwork.

he was the most urban of urban cats though……..

206 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:30:06pm

re: #198 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Now I am going to get drunk.

Good Night Lizards.

I’m so sorry…I know your pain

207 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:30:24pm

re: #198 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Now I am going to get drunk.

I’m very sorry to read that. Condolences.
Good Night Lizards.

208 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:30:33pm

re: #191 wozzablog

no Firefly fans in then.

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:31:02pm

re: #208 wozzablog

no Firefly fans in then.

No, I got it.

210 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:03pm

re: #208 wozzablog

no Firefly fans in then.

I did to, but no, “Brown Coat” is Female and so her name isn’t anywhere close to being Malcom…

(Cue “Jayne is a girl’s name joke)

211 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:14pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I got it.

glad someone did.

:p

212 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:46pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat

I did to, but no, “Brown Coat” is Female and so her name isn’t anywhere close to being Malcom…

(Cue “Jayne is a girl’s name joke)

Ah, the hero of Canton. The (woman) they call Jayne……….

213 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:32:56pm

re: #189 prairiefire

re: #196 prairiefire

Leon Russell. Wow. The man has an awesome magnetism. He gives me the chills.

214 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:33:12pm

Regarding Rescue Me:

(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_

Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11

215 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:17pm

re: #214 eclectic infidel

Regarding Rescue Me:

(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_

Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11

Considering that what scant little I know of the show is that it is about fire fighters, this sound like a plan that could easily go off the rails in all kinds of ways…

216 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:20pm

My kids enjoyed watching “Scrooged”. My favorite holiday movie quote: “The bitch hit me with a toaster.”

217 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:23pm

re: #198 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizard. I don’t know who is keeping the prayer list. But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Now I am going to get drunk.

Good Night Lizards.

I’m sorry, Bubblehead :( My sincerest condolences to you.

218 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:34:27pm

re: #206 HoosierHoops

glad you saw that Hoops.

219 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:01pm
220 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:27pm

re: #219 sagehen

[Video]

I wanna go to the crappy town where I’m a hero!

221 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:41pm

re: #214 eclectic infidel

Regarding Rescue Me:

(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_

Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11

THANK YOU.

it will be epic

222 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:35:59pm

re: #214 eclectic infidel

Regarding Rescue Me:

(yeah, yeah, from Wikipedia_

Season 7
The August 28, 2009 TV Guide reported that Season 7 (2011) will have nine episodes, culminating with the series finale on or around the 10th anniversary of 9/11

Sounds wise. 9/11 was the “maguffin” for the entire series so its 10th anniversary is a good place to end the series.

223 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:36:29pm

re: #213 marjoriemoon

re: #196 prairiefire

Leon Russell. Wow. The man has an awesome magnetism. He gives me the chills.

He comes to KC every Sept. or so to play at one of the casinos in a small show. I have got to go see him.

224 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:37:04pm

re: #215 jamesfirecat

Considering that what scant little I know of the show is that it is about fire fighters, this sound like a plan that could easily go off the rails in all kinds of ways…

It’s about a fire house involved in 9/11 and their aftermath.

It will be epic.

225 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:37:25pm

re: #223 prairiefire

He comes to KC every Sept. or so to play at one of the casinos in a small show. I have got to go see him.

Really? Lucky gal!! I was watching some recent vids of him on youtube. He doesn’t look like he’s in good health.

226 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:37:54pm

It’s a little late to start questioning the Birch Society but….
Conservatives question whether John Birch Society should be accepted as part of the Tea Party movement


Heritage Foundation fellow Lee Edwards, who authored “William F. Buckley, Jr.: The Maker of a Movement,” thinks the John Birch Society, which was forced out of the mainstream by Buckley as a result of several conspiracy theories, has no place at all in the Tea Party movement.

Though representatives from Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks did not return TheDC’s requests for comment on their perceptions of the John Birch Society, a Tea Party Express spokesman said it will take an “ally.”

“The Tea Party Express has always been laser-focused on just a few core issues: stop raising taxes, end the bailouts, defeat cap & trade, and reduce the size and scope of the federal government. Anyone who is focused on advancing those principles is a potential ally, regardless of the name of the political party or organization they might be a part of,” Levi Russell, a spokesman for the Tea Party Express, said in an e-mail to TheDC. “To the extent that the JBS is an advocate for our core ideals, they’re a welcome element of the tea party.”

Conservative new media publisher Andrew Breitbart said that, though he believes expanding the universe of voices, he’d consider publishing a Bircher only on a case-by-case basis, a slight improvement for the group that was banned from appearing in the National Review by Buckley.

“I believe in more voices rather than less,” Breitbart told TheDC. “I think the best ideas will win.”

But, Breitbart said, he doubts he’ll be working with Birchers in the near future.

“I don’t foresee there being any Breitbart.com and John Birch Society mixer anytime soon, but if one were to occur, we’d call it the Goldschlager Standard,” Breitbart said in a phone interview.


Of course everybody ignore the elephant in the room. Glenn Beck. Conservatives accept the Birch Society whether they know it or not.

227 palomino  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:38:38pm

re: #205 wozzablog

he was the most urban of urban cats though…

Nice reference to slimeball Rep. Steve King, to whom urban is a dirty word. Sorry, Stevie, we’re not returning to the agrarian ideal envisioned by Thomas Jefferson.

The US is about 80% urban now, and that figure won’t decrease.

228 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:39:47pm

re: #226 Killgore Trout

It’s a little late to start questioning the Birch Society but…
Conservatives question whether John Birch Society should be accepted as part of the Tea Party movement


Of course everybody ignore the elephant in the room. Glenn Beck. Conservatives accept the Birch Society whether they know it or not.

Here’s a hint for you tea party…..

NOOOoooOOOOOO000OOO WAY!

229 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:40:27pm

re: #225 marjoriemoon

He just made some new music with Elton John:npr.org

he was born in 1942.

230 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:41:24pm

It’s sweet. In Season 4, Gina Gershon makes a very sexy appearance…several times.

231 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:42:12pm

re: #228 jamesfirecat

Here’s a hint for you tea party…

NOOOoooOOOOOO000OOO WAY!

Quite Concur. The JBS should be rejected as firmly as possible.

232 Max  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:43:59pm

Who are Sarah Palin’s harshest critics?
The intellectual elite of the conservative movement.

233 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:44:14pm

re: #230 eclectic infidel

It’s sweet. In Season 4, Gina Gershon makes a very sexy appearance…several times.

“How do you want your steak?”

234 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:47:47pm

re: #228 jamesfirecat

Here’s a hint for you tea party…

NOOOoooOOOOOO000OOO WAY!

Yup, that’s the only way to do it but that opportunity passed long ago. All of those stalkers who flounced after the election were outraged that Charles was raising the alarm about the Birch Society. Even today they viciously defend Fox, Glenn Beck and 9-11 truthers. Nobody on the conservative side would be allowed to speak out against the Birch Society. The Tea Partiers wouldn’t stand for it.

235 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:48:14pm

re: #229 prairiefire

He just made some new music with Elton John:[Link: www.npr.org…]

he was born in 1942.

Ah ok. Boy, the man can write love songs.

236 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:49:10pm

re: #230 eclectic infidel

It’s sweet. In Season 4, Gina Gershon makes a very sexy appearance…several times.

That show has broken many of the regular tv cable barriers. I think they said pussy first. lol. I’ve watched from day one. Pillow lips!
Franco

237 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:51:21pm

g’night all.

just seen the clock. eeek.

238 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:53:15pm

Oh here’s a keeper, Leon Russell, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Doug Kershaw. But this is more bluegrass really.

239 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:55:01pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

Yup, that’s the only way to do it but that opportunity passed long ago. All of those stalkers who flounced after the election were outraged that Charles was raising the alarm about the Birch Society. Even today they viciously defend Fox, Glenn Beck and 9-11 truthers. Nobody on the conservative side would be allowed to speak out against the Birch Society. The Tea Partiers wouldn’t stand for it.

Buckley got rid of ‘em once. Now it falls for someone to get rid of ‘em again.

240 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:55:24pm

re: #232 Max D. Reinhardt

Who are Sarah Palin’s harshest critics?
The intellectual elite of the conservative movement.

Nicole Wallace, on Morning Joe the other day, said not to worry, that if Palin makes a serious run and seems on track to get the nomination, “a lot of people who know a lot of things, who’ve been keeping quiet, will suddenly have a lot to say. She won’t be the nominee.”

241 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:55:51pm

re: #238 marjoriemoon

Oh here’s a keeper, Leon Russell, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Doug Kershaw. But this is more bluegrass really.

[Video]

I bet they smoked some really good weed that night.

242 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:57:16pm

re: #241 prairiefire

I bet they smoked some really good weed that night.

What happens on the bayou, stays on the bayou!

243 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:59:50pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Buckley got rid of ‘em once. Now it falls for someone to get rid of ‘em again.

I doubt anyone is going to bother, since an overwhelming majority of the voting public haven’t even heard of the JBS (let alone why they’re bad).

244 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 8:59:54pm

re: #242 marjoriemoon

Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.

245 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:02:30pm

re: #244 prairiefire

Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.

I read they gave him a misdemeanor!! YEAH

246 elizajane  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:02:30pm

re: #240 sagehen

Nicole Wallace, on Morning Joe the other day, said not to worry, that if Palin makes a serious run and seems on track to get the nomination, “a lot of people who know a lot of things, who’ve been keeping quiet, will suddenly have a lot to say. She won’t be the nominee.”

Oooh, I can’t wait. Politics as soap opera.

Honestly, in the amount of time I’ve wasted on Sarah Palin drama, I could have finished my book. Or written a symphony. Or saved humanity!

247 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:03:23pm

re: #244 prairiefire

Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.

lol! Good grief, I’ve always been a Willie fan.

248 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:04:34pm

re: #246 elizajane

Oooh, I can’t wait. Politics as soap opera.

Honestly, in the amount of time I’ve wasted on Sarah Palin drama, I could have finished my book. Or written a symphony. Or saved humanity!

We waste time because remember, we’re scared. Or jealous.

Yeah, that’s the reason.

It’s more the train wreck can’t look and horrible possibility that the American idol people are the real American voters.

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:05:04pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

I read they gave him a misdemeanor!! YEAH

At this point, I think everyone should just assume Willie is carrying at all times. What if we just said that whenever he sees a cop, he has to give him fifty bucks, and that will settle any fines that might result from actually busting him?

(“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.)

250 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:05:32pm

re: #244 prairiefire

re: #245 Stanley Sea

abcnews.go.com

Mickey Raphael, Nelson’s longtime harmonica player, spoke with Rolling Stone magazine regarding the incident and Nelson’s release, telling the magazine that “he said he feels great — he lost six ounces.”

hehehe

251 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:05:39pm

re: #247 marjoriemoon

lol! Good grief, I’ve always been a Willie fan.

He is an honest man. I love him. I think my dad relates to him a lot, he’s always been a big fan. (my dad does not smoke pot).

252 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:10:33pm

re: #251 prairiefire

He is an honest man. I love him. I think my dad relates to him a lot, he’s always been a big fan. (my dad does not smoke pot).

Funny you say that! My dad (born in 1926) was always a rat pack fan, until one day, while cooking biscuits at our restaurant, I walked in on him singing “On the Road Again.” I never knew he was a Willie fan, but apparently he loved him.

Dad didn’t partake either, although at the time I got the “watch out for boys, I know what they want” talk, I got the marijuana talk, too. “Just because I’m your father doesn’t mean I haven’t tried those reefer sticks!”

I miss my daddy!

253 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:11:36pm

re: #240 sagehen

Nicole Wallace, on Morning Joe the other day, said not to worry, that if Palin makes a serious run and seems on track to get the nomination, “a lot of people who know a lot of things, who’ve been keeping quiet, will suddenly have a lot to say. She won’t be the nominee.”

She could still pull a Perot and turn the race into a three-way (not that I’d complain about that, given the most likely result… :) ).

254 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:12:52pm

re: #250 marjoriemoon

re: #245 Stanley Sea

[Link: abcnews.go.com…]

hehehe

Fucking a

255 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:12:56pm

“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.”

You kids keep me informed!

256 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:14:12pm

re: #254 Stanley Sea

Fucking a

I wonder who’s smoking that killer Willie weed.

257 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:14:34pm

re: #246 elizajane

Oooh, I can’t wait. Politics as soap opera.

Honestly, in the amount of time I’ve wasted on Sarah Palin drama, I could have finished my book. Or written a symphony. Or saved humanity!

And who forced you to waste your time on her?

258 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:15:26pm

re: #255 prairiefire

“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.”

[Video]

You kids keep me informed!

OMG this I have not heard.

Wilie is our leader!

259 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:15:58pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Buckley got rid of ‘em once. Now it falls for someone to get rid of ‘em again.

It’s going to be tougher this time. Glenn Beck’s Birch Society chalkboard has replaced conservative intellectualism. Even the brightest conservatives have turned against global warming, evolution and science in general. An intellectual like Buckley would never be taken seriously today. There just isn’t enough support for practical conservative intellectuals anymore and I have no idea how or if they’re going to return, I think it might be a while.

260 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:16:48pm

re: #198 Bubblehead II

{{{Bubblehead II}}
And a soft smooch besides the hug.

261 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:17:01pm

re: #244 prairiefire

Norah Jones made some music with Willie Nelson. An interviewer asked her if she partied with Mr. Nelson and she said “oh no, I can not smoke Willie’s weed.” I think she thought it was too lethal. He just got busted with 6 ounces.

Actually, it turns out he only had 4 ounces on him and in Texas that makes a big difference. 6 ounces would have gotten him a felony possession charge with up to 180 days in jail. 4 ounces means no jail time, just a fine.

262 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:17:22pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

And who forced you to waste your time on her?

It was me. I tied her up and showed her pictures of Palin all day and night for weeks!

263 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:18:14pm

re: #255 prairiefire

“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.”

[Video]

You kids keep me informed!

“You’re really high”

“I’m going to tell our Savior”

oh my god, I’m dying. 1st time and I thank you and SFZ

264 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:19:12pm

re: #252 marjoriemoon

{{{marjorie}}} I’m sure it feels awful. {m}

265 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:20:03pm

Hey you late arriving gals. I held the fort for awhile without you. I was waiting for your support!

266 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:20:59pm

re: #264 prairiefire

{{{marjorie}}} I’m sure it feels awful. {m}

Thanks, sweets. I have good memories!

267 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:21:39pm

re: #265 Stanley Sea

Hey you late arriving gals. I held the fort for awhile without you. I was waiting for your support!

I’m here now!
*smooch*

268 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:22:34pm

re: #249 SanFranciscoZionist

At this point, I think everyone should just assume Willie is carrying at all times. What if we just said that whenever he sees a cop, he has to give him fifty bucks, and that will settle any fines that might result from actually busting him?

(“The Little Dealer Boy” is one of my top ten favorite Christmas songs.)

“Do you smell that?”

“No, and you don’t either….”

(From “Mr. Monk and the Red Headed Stranger)

269 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:25:31pm

re: #265 Stanley Sea

Hey you late arriving gals. I held the fort for awhile without you. I was waiting for your support!

War porn! Gah!

270 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:27:09pm

re: #263 Stanley Sea

“You’re really high”

“I’m going to tell our Savior”

oh my god, I’m dying. 1st time and I thank you and SFZ

“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”

271 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:10pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

lol That’s pretty funny. Is it for real?

272 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:17pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”


[Video]

LOL!….
amateurs

273 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:40pm

Ah. Pizza arrived at 9:10 PST. Good times.

274 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:29:56pm

re: #269 prairiefire

War porn! Gah!

You know you secretly like it!
///

275 jamesfirecat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:30:15pm

I”m going to bed, if any of you guys want trollcats made for particular arguments/situations let me know and I’ll get to work on it as soon as I wake up….

276 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:30:38pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”


[Video]

Oh lol! Dude, if I recall correctly was a cop!

LOL

277 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:31:19pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Drudge fail

Looks like he changed it.

278 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:32:27pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

I read they gave him a misdemeanor!! YEAH

Yup. Made Amurika safer or somethin.

279 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:32:38pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”


[Video]

Time is going by really really slow

This is a fucking classic

280 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:33:18pm

re: #274 Floral Giraffe

Three sarc tags, so it is back to sarc. Good, cause I would much rather watch “Westside Story”
Gym Mambo

281 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:33:20pm

re: #271 marjoriemoon

lol That’s pretty funny. Is it for real?

Yep.

282 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:34:05pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

The wife takes 5 vicoden a day? And he doesn’t know why she’s sprawled out on the floor.

283 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:35:29pm

are there any animals in the house?

This is the best classic. I actually heard it before on Jim Rome.

Guy must have lost his cop job?

284 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:35:38pm

re: #278 eclectic infidel

Yup. Made Amurika safer or somethin.

Wasn’t about that. 6 ounces is considered possession with intent to distribute. 4 ounces is small enough that in Texas they figure that’s just for the possessor himself. And they don’t consider it worthwhile lock someone up for simple possession. Deals are considered a different matter.

285 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:35:57pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

Time is going by really really slow

This is a fucking classic

The thing about doing pot for the first time is you really do need to be on shag carpeting.

286 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:36:04pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

“I think we’re dying. We made brownies and I think we’re dead, I really do.”


[Video]

For the record, I don’t think you can OD on THC - BUT, you can freak out if you’re not used to a certain dosage, and baked products have that potential. I’ve freaked out before and the cure was shutting off all lights and just laying down for a while. It worked.

That caller’s reality was seriously tweaked that’s for sure. “I think we’re dead.” Priceless.

287 lostlakehiker  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:36:06pm

re: #103 sagehen

It’s behind a subscription wall — does it mention about the huge infrastructure investments (railroads) and huge education investments (land grant colleges) and millions and millions of acres of free land to any farmers willing to go park themselves on it and grow stuff?

‘Cause I don’t see today’s economic conservatives supporting those sorts of things.

Investment in real infrastructure by Republicans didn’t go out of style with Lincoln. Eisenhower got the Interstate Highway program going. At the state level, some number of Republican governors have run and then governed as road-builders and maintainers.

All too many states have let infrastructure slide, with the result that the roads, railroads, dams, bridges, and electricity grid are all badly in need of repair or upgrade. I could cite instances of blue states that fit that profile, but there are probably red states that match it too. Oklahoma?

Why is it that, with so much work to be done, and the unemployment rate still drifting above 9%, the administration cannot seem to find much of anything in that line to actually go and do? That state governments continued to neglect infrastructure is easily explained; they cannot just print the money with which to fund the repairs. But since we’re printing money anyhow, what would be the harm in seeing some results from it?

288 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:36:32pm

re: #280 prairiefire

Three sarc tags, so it is back to sarc. Good, cause I would much rather watch “Westside Story”
Gym Mambo

[Video]

oh, honey, that’s not even one of the three best numbers in that movie.

I love the opening rumble, the Jet Song, but my absolute fave is

289 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:37:06pm

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

The thing about doing pot for the first time is you really do need to be on shag carpeting.

nevah evah eat it. Totally different experience. I was there, but hell I never called 911.

290 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:37:36pm
291 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:38:23pm

re: #277 Gus 802

Looks like he changed it.

Heh. So he did.

292 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:39:15pm

re: #281 goddamnedfrank

Yep.

That is one bizarre story.

“If you’re a cop and you’re arresting people and you’re confiscating the marijuana and keeping it yourself, that’s bad. That’s real bad,” said City Councilman Doug Thomas.

Oh my, when I was 17, we got stopped and the cop spotted the bag in my friend’s purse. There was 6 of us in the car. He ended up taking the bag and letting us go.

293 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:39:57pm

re: #290 Gus 802

I like this commercial.

Allstate mayhem commercial - Dean Winters as Teenage Girl in Pink Truck


[Video]

love those commercials….
I’m a teenage girl and emotionally compromised

294 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:40:00pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Heh. So he did.

Yeah. I noticed what you posted earlier today. Not sure if I’ve ever seen Drudge change a headline wording before.

295 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:40:25pm

re: #290 Gus 802

I like this commercial.

Allstate mayhem commercial - Dean Winters as Teenage Girl in Pink Truck


[Video]

Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-

296 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:40:28pm

re: #286 eclectic infidel

For the record, I don’t think you can OD on THC - BUT, you can freak out if you’re not used to a certain dosage, and baked products have that potential. I’ve freaked out before and the cure was shutting off all lights and just laying down for a while. It worked.

That caller’s reality was seriously tweaked that’s for sure. “I think we’re dead.” Priceless.

Technically, there could also have been something on the pot.

297 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:41:32pm

re: #296 marjoriemoon

Technically, there could also have been something on the pot.

PCP is often used to lace low grade pot…that shit is dangerous

298 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:42:31pm

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-

Looks like it…

associatedcontent.com

299 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:43:40pm

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-

Two different actors with the same name I guess.

300 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:44:04pm

Wait. No. Maybe not.

imdb.com

301 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:44:28pm

re: #298 Gus 802

Looks like it…

[Link: www.associatedcontent.com…]

the teenage kid on the lawn tractor is hilarious…drives onto a gravel barrier and shatters the house with rocks

302 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:45:38pm

re: #297 albusteve

PCP is often used to lace low grade pot…that shit is dangerous

Yep. There was also a trend of soaking it in embalming fluid which is delightful. yeesh.

303 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:45:47pm

re: #301 albusteve

the teenage kid on the lawn tractor is hilarious…drives onto a gravel barrier and shatters the house with rocks

304 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:46:36pm

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Is Dean Winters the actor’s name? He was Tommy’s hot as hell brother on Rescue Me till he -died-

Yes, that is his name. He also played Ryan O’Reilly on HBO’s prison series OZ.

305 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:46:37pm

re: #299 Gus 802

Two different actors with the same name I guess.

No, it’s him. Tommy Gavin’s hot younger bro.

I enjoy.

306 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:47:05pm

re: #302 marjoriemoon

Yep. There was also a trend of soaking it in embalming fluid which is delightful. yeesh.

waaaaay beneath my standards….no way would I ever do anything less than top shelf erb

307 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:48:08pm

re: #303 Gus 802

[Video]

classic…these guys are onto something

308 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:48:47pm

re: #306 albusteve

waaay beneath my standards…no way would I ever do anything less than top shelf erb

hehe Hey, how ya feeling?

309 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:49:52pm

re: #305 Stanley Sea

No, it’s him. Tommy Gavin’s hot younger bro.

I enjoy.

Is this what you mean about “before he died”?

Before playing the cause of accidents, Dean Winters went through a near-death experience he’s only recently begun to talk about publicly. In June of 2009, Dean fell ill with a bacterial infection. He collapsed during a consultation with his doctor and his heart stopped beating for 2-1/2 minutes while riding to the hospital in an ambulance. Dean spent three weeks in an intensive care until before he was well enough to be released. His health unfortunately took a turn for the worse one month later. He developed gangrene and had to have one thumb and two toes amputated. He’s since has surgery to rebuild his right hand and his health is much improved.

310 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:50:10pm

re: #307 albusteve

classic…these guys are onto something

Were you able to get that wound cleaned up?

311 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:51:17pm

re: #308 marjoriemoon

hehe Hey, how ya feeling?

I made it…I feel better all ready after draining the infection….one deep jab and presto!…it needs to be irrigated and cleaned better tho…Monday at the docs, thanks

312 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:52:03pm

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

Were you able to get that wound cleaned up?

yup…potato juice and ice for anesthetic
hahaha!….what a rube

313 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:52:09pm

re: #311 albusteve

I made it…I feel better all ready after draining the infection…one deep jab and presto!…it needs to be irrigated and cleaned better tho…Monday at the docs, thanks

Good to hear. Maybe a strong cocktail is in order (if you haven’t already considered it).

314 sagehen  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:52:42pm

For great dancing of a more contemporary flavor, check out The LXD — a web-only live-action comic book; their superpowers manifest through dance.

hulu.com

Most of the episodes are under ten minutes.

315 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:53:28pm

re: #309 Gus 802

Is this what you mean about “before he died”?

somebody knows their CPR
vent bag!

316 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:54:13pm

re: #313 marjoriemoon

Good to hear. Maybe a strong cocktail is in order (if you haven’t already considered it).

heck!…what a groovy idea!
(I’m way ahead of ya)

317 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:57:01pm

re: #309 Gus 802

Dean Winters. Probably not his real name.

Whatever.

(thanks for the info)

318 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:06pm

re: #317 Stanley Sea

Dean Winters. Probably not his real name.

Whatever.

(thanks for the info)

My name is Lex Luther!

/

319 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:09pm

re: #317 Stanley Sea

Dean Winters. Probably not his real name.

Whatever.

(thanks for the info)

his real name is Francis Grubneziac….I’ll find a link

320 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:21pm

re: #316 albusteve

heck!…what a groovy idea!
(I’m way ahead of ya)

whoohoo! Well, if you’re down in Sierra Blanca, Texas, they apparently have some awesome Willie Nelson weed there.

321 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:27pm

OMG! Becky’s not even like, hot!

322 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:58:39pm

re: #318 Gus 802

My name is Lex Luther!

/

WE ARE ALL LUTHER!

323 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:59:37pm

re: #320 marjoriemoon

whoohoo! Well, if you’re down in Sierra Blanca, Texas, they apparently have some awesome Willie Nelson weed there.

I’m sure he does the bomb

324 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:00:00pm

re: #319 albusteve

his real name is Francis Grubneziac…I’ll find a link

Birth Name
Dean Gerard Winters

325 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:00:27pm

re: #324 Gus 802

Birth Name
Dean Gerard Winters

oh poo

326 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:01:14pm

re: #309 Gus 802

Is this what you mean about “before he died”?

I think they mean when his character was ambushed by scumbag criminals and killed.

327 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:02:11pm

re: #326 Dark_Falcon

I think they mean when his character was ambushed by scumbag criminals and killed.

“I think I’m dead”

328 albusteve  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:06:22pm

rock on brothers and sisters

329 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:08:24pm

re: #324 Gus 802

Birth Name
Dean Gerard Winters

ok, now I’m even more in love. sealed the deal.

Gerard? beautiful.

330 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:08:42pm
331 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:09:10pm

re: #326 Dark_Falcon

I think they mean when his character was ambushed by scumbag criminals and killed.

yes.

332 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:09:25pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

ok, now I’m even more in love. sealed the deal.

Gerard? beautiful.

I take it you have a crush. Smitten. ;)

333 Stanley Sea  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:10:48pm

re: #332 Gus 802

I take it you have a crush. Smitten. ;)

I had a freak out when his character on Rescue Me was killed.

But he remembered me and came back as mayhem

334 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:18:06pm

Guess it’s almost honk shear time.

335 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:26:47pm

In other news…

N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects

TRENTON — When state Sen. Sean Kean saw the fierce opposition a proposed wind turbine stirred in his shore-area district, he came up with a solution: bar the construction of industrial electricity-generating windmills within 2,000 feet of any residentially zoned land.

But in the most densely populated state in the nation, environmentalists say it’s a case of “not in my backyard” gone wild. They say it would make it nearly impossible to put windmills on land along the wind-swept Jersey Shore.

Kean (R-Monmouth) drafted the bill after a proposed 325-foot windmill by Department of Military and Veterans Affairs at the National Guard training center in Sea Girt drew protests from hundreds of residents concerned it would threaten birds, cause noise, pose health risks and decrease property values. The Sea Girt council in September passed a resolution opposing building the turbine on the state-owned land.

Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?

336 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:28:10pm

re: #335 Gus 802

In other news…

N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects


Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?

By slowing down the winds, it could mean that allergens are not dispersed and allowed to build up to lethal levels.
/

337 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:28:24pm

re: #335 Gus 802

In other news…

N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects

Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?

More. Grab your barf bag…

The bill says it is meant to prevent “wind turbine syndrome,” in which close proximity to a turbine allegedly causes a host of health problems, including insomnia, headaches and learning disabilities. But the science behind the phenomenon, first published in a study by Dr. Nina Pierpont, is heavily debated.

338 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:28:59pm

re: #336 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

By slowing down the winds, it could mean that allergens are not dispersed and allowed to build up to lethal levels.
/

Yeah. And they also cause “learning disabilities”. WTF?

339 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:29:28pm

re: #335 Gus 802

In other news…

N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects

Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?

Head desk. It will be worth looking into how much of this is Astroturf too.

340 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:30:16pm

re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote

Head desk. It will be worth looking into how much of this is Astroturf too.

Just started looking. OK, are you ready for this?

Wind Turbine Syndrome

341 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:31:26pm

In this engagingly written report by a Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine trained M.D. and Princeton Ph.D., we discover wind energy’s dirty little secret!!11ty

Eleventy!

342 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:32:36pm

re: #340 Gus 802

Just started looking. OK, are you ready for this?

Wind Turbine Syndrome

Read the biography on that site. It’s a hoot.

343 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:33:27pm

re: #342 SanFranciscoZionist

Read the biography on that site. It’s a hoot.

Yeah. She’s a pediatrician and…

I am a board certified pediatrician licensed in the State of New York and Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. These days I limit my practice to behavioral medicine, seeing both adults and (chiefly) children, drawing my patients from an extensive area of upstate New York. I have had considerable post-graduate training in behavioral medicine, which I have been able to integrate with my doctoral training in behavioral ecology. My research on Wind Turbine Syndrome is the natural offspring of behavioral medicine married to behavioral ecology.

Most of all, I love what I do. I believe in compassion and grace and get tremendous pleasure and joy out of my patients. I run my practice out of my home as an old-fashioned doctor’s office. Cheerful, light, airy, the smell of my husband’s burnt toast in the background—Norman Rockwell’s America.

344 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:34:00pm

re: #337 Gus 802

More. Grab your barf bag…

This is going to be crap just like the crap about cell phones being dangerous. It was always, always just bunk in that case because the EM fields cant even penetrate the skin.

However, scare enough people and you need endless research to prove that there is no effect. Then the endless research comes in, but it is a meme and the politicians latch onto it, while a breathless media stirs a nontroversy.

Remember how microwave ovens were going to kill us all as well?

345 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:35:05pm

re: #340 Gus 802

Just started looking. OK, are you ready for this?

Wind Turbine Syndrome

Can you say tobacco doctor! I don’t know for certain, but I will bet five bucks we find her funding comes from some unpleasant folks.

346 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:35:46pm

re: #344 LudwigVanQuixote

This is going to be crap just like the crap about cell phones being dangerous. It was always, always just bunk in that case because the EM fields cant even penetrate the skin.

However, scare enough people and you need endless research to prove that there is no effect. Then the endless research comes in, but it is a meme and the politicians latch onto it, while a breathless media stirs a nontroversy.

Remember how microwave ovens were going to kill us all as well?

I think televisions were supposed to kill us to. Yeah, this borders on chemtrails and other urban myths…

Dr Nina Pierpont, a New York pediatrician and a controversial figure in the wind power discussion, has said that noise can be an important disadvantage of wind turbines, especially when building the wind turbines very close to urban environments. The controversy around Dr. Pierpont’s work centers around her claims made in a self-published, non-peer-reviewed book that ultra-low frequency sounds affect human health. She makes the assertion that wind turbines affect the mood of people and may cause physiological problems such as insomnia, headaches, tinnitus, vertigo and nausea.

en.wikipedia.org

347 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:37:13pm

re: #344 LudwigVanQuixote

This is going to be crap just like the crap about cell phones being dangerous. It was always, always just bunk in that case because the EM fields cant even penetrate the skin.

However, scare enough people and you need endless research to prove that there is no effect. Then the endless research comes in, but it is a meme and the politicians latch onto it, while a breathless media stirs a nontroversy.

Remember how microwave ovens were going to kill us all as well?

LOL. I’m going to survive my microwave?
WHat a relief!
*waves*

348 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:39:03pm

re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote

Head desk. It will be worth looking into how much of this is Astroturf too.

Good, you’re here. I’d been waiting for you so I could post this:

Are Venus’ mystery clouds warning sign for Earth?

Mysterious clouds discovered on Venus are not only helping scientists learn more about Earth’s closest planetary neighbor, they also serve as a cautionary tale for one proposed method of combating climate change on our own planet.

The peculiar sulfur dioxide clouds of Venus have perplexed scientists since they were first discovered in 2008 by the European Space Agency’s Venus Express spacecraft.

Now, computer simulations made by Xi Zhang, a graduate student in the Division of Geological and Planetary Sciences at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif., may explain these high-altitude clouds. [ Photos: Beneath the Clouds of Venus]

The study may also mean that one idea for addressing global warming on Earth — injecting sulfur droplets into Earth’s atmosphere — may not be as effective as previously thought, researchers said.

349 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:40:03pm

For extra double happy fun here’s an article at Alex Cockburn’s “Counterpunch”:

Inconvenient Truths
Wind Turbine Syndrome

By Dr. NINA PIERPONT, MD

Wind turbines majestically threshing the wind — what marvels of human engineering! To stand beneath one is breathtaking. To live near one can be hell on earth. So I have been told by countless people who suddenly find themselves grievously ill from the subtle yet devastating infrasonic jackhammer generated by these “clean, green, renewable energy” giants.

Nina Pierpont, MD, PhD, is a pediatrician and author of “Wind Turbine Syndrome: A Report on a Natural Experiment” (2009). She is the keynote speaker at this weekend’s international symposium in Picton, Ontario, “The Global Wind Industry and Adverse Health Effects: Loss of Social Justice?”

350 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:40:58pm

re: #343 Gus 802

Yeah. She’s a pediatrician and…

If it ducks like a quack…

351 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:42:45pm

re: #349 Gus 802

For extra double happy fun here’s an article at Alex Cockburn’s “Counterpunch”:

Inconvenient Truths
Wind Turbine Syndrome

By Dr. NINA PIERPONT, MD

This sounds like a load…

Sometimes it’s advantageous being a country doctor. Six years ago I began hearing health complaints from people living in the shadow of these gigantic turbines. At first it was merely local and regional, then global. Tellingly, virtually everyone described the same constellation of symptoms. Symptoms that were being triggered, I began to suspect, by vestibular dysregulation.

(1) Sleep disturbance. Not simply awakened, but awakening in a panic (“flight or fight” response).
(2) Headache.
(3) Tinnitus.
(4) Ear pressure.
(5) Dizziness.
(6) Vertigo.
(7) Nausea.
(8) Visual blurring.
(9) Tachycardia.
(10) Irritability.
(11) Problems with concentration and memory.
(12) Panic episodes associated with sensations of internal pulsation or quivering, which arise while awake or asleep. (This latter involving other, non-vestibular organs of balance, motion, and position sense.)

None of these people had experienced these symptoms to any appreciable degree before the turbines became operational. All said their symptoms disappeared rapidly whenever they spent several days away from home. All said the symptoms reappeared when they returned home.

Sounds like they might be suffering from Wind Turbine is in my Backyard Hysteria Syndrome.

352 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:44:03pm

re: #346 Gus 802

innovationtrail.org

We agree that Nina Pierpont’s work should not be used as a basis for determining project approvals. We believe that setbacks need to be determined on a case-by-case basis and need to be reasonable to ensure safety and security and community needs while still enabling project development given the imperative of increasing our reliance on renewable energy to combat climate change and increase energy security. We do not take a position on any given setback distances since the density of population and the specifics of each wind farm site vary.

To our knowledge, Nina Pierpont’s work was self-published and has not appeared in any scientifically credible and peer-reviewed journal. Wind turbines have been in operation for many years in many parts of the world and contribute substantial amounts of energy (in greater percentages of total energy use than in the United States) in densely populated countries such as Germany and Spain apparently without widespread harmful health effects.

health.gov.on.ca

New Report From Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Of Health Says There Is No Direct Causal Link Between Wind Turbines And Adverse Health Effects

Self published and folksy web page…. Hmmmm…

None of her stuff submitted to peer review before she wrote a book!

Right there you know this is crap. It is always crap when they write a book but don’t write a journal paper. She knows her stuff is crap too, otherwise she would have published in a proper journal.

353 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:47:02pm

re: #352 LudwigVanQuixote

[Link: www.innovationtrail.org…]

[Link: www.health.gov.on.ca…]

New Report From Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Of Health Says There Is No Direct Causal Link Between Wind Turbines And Adverse Health Effects

Self published and folksy web page… Hmmm…

None of her stuff submitted to peer review before she wrote a book!

Right there you know this is crap. It is always crap when they write a book but don’t write a journal paper. She knows her stuff is crap too, otherwise she would have published in a proper journal.

Yep. She just wrote a book and the morons are calling it a study. I mean try even finding anything about “vestibular dysregulation” and you won’t find much of anything.

354 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:48:39pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

If it ducks like a quack…

Dude, that is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long assed time.

Thank you. I have to remember that one when dealing with my step mother. (She’s an RN, reasonably intelligent and decent hearted but is easily taken in by quackery and the fundamentalism of her Christian based cult.)

355 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:48:49pm

re: #351 Gus 802

And then there is the sweet, I’m just a country girl who lives in a whitebread Norman Rockwell world aspect.

Scientists don’t try to tell people how sweet they are when discussing science.

This smells like utter astroturf.

I think it is very likely that a little more digging will finde her getting paid in one form or another by some sort of “foundation” with a wholesome name like Concerned Americans for Maintaining Wholesomeness, that is in reality a front for a fossil fuel interest.

356 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:49:06pm

re: #352 LudwigVanQuixote

[Link: www.innovationtrail.org…]

[Link: www.health.gov.on.ca…]

New Report From Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer Of Health Says There Is No Direct Causal Link Between Wind Turbines And Adverse Health Effects

Self published and folksy web page… Hmmm…

None of her stuff submitted to peer review before she wrote a book!

Right there you know this is crap. It is always crap when they write a book but don’t write a journal paper. She knows her stuff is crap too, otherwise she would have published in a proper journal.

Hey but don’t worry. I’m pretty sure Lawrence will be on the case soon.

I can see the wingnuts jumping on this bandwagon.

//

357 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:49:35pm

re: #356 Gus 802

Hey but don’t worry. I’m pretty sure Lawrence will be on the case soon.

I can see the wingnuts jumping on this bandwagon.

//

You know it.

358 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:51:20pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Good, you’re here. I’d been waiting for you so I could post this:

Are Venus’ mystery clouds warning sign for Earth?

Short form. Dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere means making sulfuric acid rain.

Bad bad bad idea.

359 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:51:35pm

re: #357 LudwigVanQuixote

You know it.

Here’s part of the whois for her website:

Registrant:
Calvin Martin
Calvin Martin
XX Clay
Malone, NY 12953

360 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:52:15pm

re: #347 Floral Giraffe

LOL. I’m going to survive my microwave?
WHat a relief!
*waves*

Hey hon!

361 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:52:44pm

re: #351 Gus 802

This sounds like a load…

Sounds like they might be suffering from Wind Turbine is in my Backyard Hysteria Syndrome.

I call it “‘ELEVENTY!!1’ Degenerative Derangement” or EV!DD. It occurs when someone falls for too many “ELEVENTY!!1” stories and progressively degenerates, becoming more and more gullible to tales put out by their “ELEVENTY!!1” provider and less and less able to accept reality.

362 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:53:13pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Here’s part of the whois for her website:

Registrant:
Calvin Martin
Calvin Martin
XX Clay
Malone, NY 12953

Interesting. Calvin Martin would be the husband.

363 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:53:53pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Here’s part of the whois for her website:

Registrant:
Calvin Martin
Calvin Martin
XX Clay
Malone, NY 12953

Here’s his CV. It’s a PDF.

She might be a general purpose kook.

364 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:54:26pm

re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote

*smooch*
Hi Sir!
You’re seeming feisty tonight!
Hope all is well.
another *smooch* for you.
Because I can!
All is well here.

365 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:55:44pm

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

I call it “‘ELEVENTY!!1’ Degenerative Derangement” or EV!DD. It occurs when someone falls for too many “ELEVENTY!!1” stories and progressively degenerates, becoming more and more gullible to tales put out by their “ELEVENTY!!1” provider and less and less able to accept reality.

In that case I think an ordinary house fan, heater fan, and AC would be causing these “symptoms”. Don’t these people drive too?

366 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:56:15pm

re: #358 LudwigVanQuixote

Short form. Dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere means making sulfuric acid rain.

Bad bad bad idea.

Didn’t say it was a good one. But whenever I see tthat sort of article I try to bring it to your attention.

367 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:57:50pm

re: #351 Gus 802

Well, they do make noise as the turbine twirls,
I think many people expect them to be silent. They’re not.
They make machine noises.
If you don’t like hearing machine noises 24/7 this isn’t something you want near your house.

368 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:59:02pm

re: #365 Gus 802

In that case I think an ordinary house fan, heater fan, and AC would be causing these “symptoms”. Don’t these people drive too?

The only cure is to isolate the person from the “ELEVENTY!!1” source and then begin deprogramming.

369 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 10:59:38pm

re: #367 Floral Giraffe

Well, they do make noise as the turbine twirls,
I think many people expect them to be silent. They’re not.
They make machine noises.
If you don’t like hearing machine noises 24/7 this isn’t something you want near your house.

Planes, trains, and automobiles.

If that’s the case then forget about large scale wind turbines near any high density population areas.

370 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:00:12pm

re: #358 LudwigVanQuixote

Short form. Dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere means making sulfuric acid rain.

Bad bad bad idea.

Bad ideas have an honored and cherished place in our history.

371 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:01:03pm

We’ve become a nation of litigious wussies.

372 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:02:29pm

Gahhh…kinda awkward to get into a yelling argument with someone for half an hour and then find out that your both only arguing semantics and actually hold the same basic point of view.

/I really hate it when that happens (basically it shows how much you already dislike each other or it wouldn’t have happened) I gotta try to suck it up and be nice to everyone no matter what for this next week till Mom’s memorial. Wish me luck…

373 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:02:30pm

re: #369 Gus 802

Planes, trains, and automobiles.

If that’s the case then forget about large scale wind turbines near any high density population areas.

It’s kinda like folks who buy houses under airport flight paths.
They SAY they understand it,but then they move in and have to live with it.
It’s NEVER what they expected.

374 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:03:57pm

re: #373 Floral Giraffe

It’s kinda like folks who buy houses under airport flight paths.
They SAY they understand it,but then they move in and have to live with it.
It’s NEVER what they expected.

Oh heck that’s another one. They’ve managed to almost destroy the small airport business.

375 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:05:08pm

re: #372 ausador

Repeat after me.
“They have the same goals that I do.”
“Really, we want the same things.”
“I will go to Alcatraz if I rip her head off, right now, so I must wait”.
*hugs for you*

376 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:06:16pm

There’s no evidence of health impacts from wind energy
Published: Friday, November 26, 2010, 6:00 AM

While there are legitimate issues worth debating with regard to wind energy development, public health impacts are not among them. The Oregonian’s recent coverage of such impacts does a disservice to readers by further amplifying the discredited hypothesis of a single wind opponent, Nina Pierpont, whose self-published work has been widely criticized by sound experts.

While opponents of wind energy have attempted to use self-published reports to block projects, the science is clear. Independent studies conducted around the world consistently find that wind farms have no direct impact on physical health. In fact, with no air or water pollution emissions, wind energy is essential to reducing public health impacts from the energy sector.

A minority of residents living near wind projects may sometimes find the turbine sounds annoying and the same is true with any environmental sound. Annoyance is a subjective effect that varies among people and circumstances. Many residents in Oregon and across the United States find wind turbines to be a non-intrusive neighbor.

In 2009, we participated in an international multidisciplinary scientific advisory panel to review current literature on the perceived health effects of wind turbines. The panel found no evidence that the audible or sub-audible sounds emitted by wind turbines have any direct adverse physiological effects. It is important to note that while this effort was funded by the American and Canadian Wind Energy Associations, we are independent scientists who had no involvement with the wind industry prior to this engagement.

The Australian National Health and Medical Research Council also conducted peer-reviewed research on the issue: Its findings: “There is currently no published scientific evidence to positively link wind turbines with adverse health effects.”

And in May 2010, Ontario’s chief medical officer of health issued a report concluding that the scientific evidence does not support a direct causal link between wind turbine sounds and adverse human health impacts.

A recent Health and Safety Briefing from RenewableUK, formerly the British Wind Energy Association, entitled “Independent review of the state of knowledge about the alleged health condition known as Wind Turbine Syndrome,” included analyses from a team of expert reviewers who were highly critical of Nina Pierpont’s work. One expert states that “Pierpont makes the common mistake of taking a one-dimensional view of sound, considering only frequencies and ignoring the importance of levels … this is a serious failing, as urban dwellers are exposed to similar levels of infrasound to that from wind turbines.”

Inevitably all Oregon communities will weigh the costs and benefits of wind energy differently, but citizens should be presented with accurate and science-based information with which to make their decisions.

Robert J. McCunney is a research scientist in occupational and environmental medicine at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Department of Biological Engineering. Robert Dobie is a clinical professor of otolaryngology at both the University of Texas-San Antonio and the University of California, Davis. David M. Lipscomb is president of Correct Service Inc. in Stanwood, Wash.

377 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:09:49pm

re: #364 Floral Giraffe

*smooch*
Hi Sir!
You’re seeming feisty tonight!
Hope all is well.
another *smooch* for you.
Because I can!
All is well here.

Hey hey! I am fine. I am just not usually around at the birth of a cold fusion like burst of pseudo-scientific flatulence from people who should be respectable.

There are 5 warning signs.

1. It sounds implausible - not for the reason that it is weird, but rather that it does not make any sense at all that there could be a mechanism to do what is claimed. Usually it is an energy conservation argument.

In the case of cold fusion, the issue was that there was no way to overcome the coulomb barrier.

In this case, I simply don’t see how a wind mill, some hundreds of yards away on a windy day could make enough of any sort of sound that it could be easily detected (without a parabolic mic or such) let alone interact detectably with any structure in the human body. How exactly would incredibly faint and distant sounds cause learning disabilities?

This is an automatic red flag

2. There is no mechanism for the effect given. There is merely a claim that something happens. In of itself it is not necessarily bad, but usually people have some idea of how they think something works. This too is a red flag.

3. The data is always in the noise. There is never a clear statistical trend or a signal clearly above noise. In most medical claims, it is a matter of anecdotal evidence and refusal to consider confounding factors. In this case, we have the country doctor drawing inferences from a few of her patients - so she claims. This is really a giant red flag.

4. The work goes to the media before it gets peer reviewed. This is always, always a bad sign. If you have made the most earth shattering discovery ever, your first impulse is to publish in the best journal you can straight away. You want the scientific credit. If you want publicity first, and no one asking questions, then you go to the press. This is what happened with Cold Fusion. This is a super duper red flag.

5. There is a folksy, I am selling you something tone to the writing.

In this case, this whole lavender font, “I am a sweet country girl who loves kids and nature and my hubby’s burnt toast” (she actually said that) smacks of hucksterism. This is another colossal red flag.

378 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:10:10pm

A comment from my original NJ dot com link:

bob December 01, 2010 at 7:34AM
Follow

YOU CALL THE PEOPLE OF NJ SPECIAL INTERESTS.

You are a hartless Big Wind Lobbiest who whats to harm the health of New Jesey women and children. The sound and home shaking vibration of those horrible machines cases health problesm. These windmills kill thousands of birds daily. Falcons nest on these windmills and are destroyed by the props on windy days. The poor birds do not know that the vibration harms their babies.

Only a special interest Liberal would want to put a windmill outside a childs bedroom window.

379 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:10:36pm

re: #376 Gus 802

There’s no evidence of health impacts from wind energy
Published: Friday, November 26, 2010, 6:00 AM

The problem is that those reports only do so much. I’ve been think about this sort of problem and I think the scientific side needs to develop its own dirty-tricks brigade. A group that will work to get the dirt on the most influential cranks and bring them down. It should not manufacture stories, but it should have the purpose of painting the opposition as nut-jobs.

380 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:14:16pm

re: #377 LudwigVanQuixote


Just a searching kinda tune…
381 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:15:37pm

re: #378 Gus 802

A comment from my original NJ dot com link:

I know its not likely him, but that post is written in the same way as Rodan writes: certain that the opposition is just an evil front and utterly convinced of his own correctness and virtue. I half expected the poster to call you a “Peronist Progressive”.

382 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:16:05pm

Oh the pain! I’m reading some more of those comments. Good grief.

383 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:17:55pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Oh the pain! I’m reading some more of those comments. Good grief.

Unmoderated comments on a major science issue tend to be a sewer. The comments are full of weirdos letting their freak flags fly.

384 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:18:29pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Oh the pain! I’m reading some more of those comments. Good grief.

Gus, could you post my five warning signs over wherever this is?

385 Gus  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:19:31pm

re: #384 LudwigVanQuixote

Gus, could you post my five warning signs over wherever this is?

Can you do it? It’s right here…

nj.com

386 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:21:06pm

re: #377 LudwigVanQuixote

I think this ought to have “troll hammer” status.
I will favorite it, to re-use.

387 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:24:33pm

Good night, all.
Sleep well. And for as long as you can!
It’s a gift, that many do not have.
Treasure it, and your selves.
*Snuggles soft sheets*

388 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:27:40pm

re: #387 Floral Giraffe

Good night, all.
Sleep well. And for as long as you can!
It’s a gift, that many do not have.
Treasure it, and your selves.
*Snuggles soft sheets*

I’m gonna pack it in also. Sleep well, all.

389 tnguitarist  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:29:26pm

Good evening, late-nighters. Long time no post. Life got busy.

390 Kragar  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 11:56:41pm

Helen Thomas’ school scraps award over ‘Zionists’ remark

Wayne State University, the Detroit, Michigan, institution that Thomas graduated from in 1942, said in a statement Friday that the school will no longer give out the Helen Thomas Spirit of Diversity in the Media Award.

“Wayne State encourages free speech and open dialogue, and respects diverse viewpoints,” the school’s statement said. “However, the university strongly condemns the anti-Semitic remarks made by Helen Thomas during a conference yesterday.”

391 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:16:22am
392 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:18:32am
393 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:21:30am
394 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:22:15am
395 darthstar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:22:44am

Left my dogs at home listening to “The Bridge” on Sirius 33, thinking some mellow rock would hold them while I went to a Chanukah dinner at a friend’s house. Well, I get back seven hours later to realize that there’s a Paul McCartney marathon this weekend, and the poor boys got nothing but soldier boy, kisses girl the whole time…now they don’t give a shit what the Man has to say.

396 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:24:00am

Sorry Gus, but I don’t feel like dancing.

397 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:27:09am

re: #396 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sorry Gus, but I don’t feel like dancing.

[Video]

Bee Gees!

398 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:31:47am

re: #397 Gus 802

Bee Gees!

A definite strong influence there

Gonna take your mama out all night
Yeah we’ll show her what it’s all about
We’ll get her jacked up on some cheap champagne
We’ll let the good times all roll out
And if the music ain’t good, well it’s just too bad
We’re gonna sing along no matter what

399 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:35:15am

re: #398 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A definite strong influence there

[Video]Gonna take your mama out all night
Yeah we’ll show her what it’s all about
We’ll get her jacked up on some cheap champagne
We’ll let the good times all roll out
And if the music ain’t good, well it’s just too bad
We’re gonna sing along no matter what

Now I’m hearing some Elton John.

400 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:35:45am

re: #399 Gus 802

Now I’m hearing some Elton John.

Yeah, that too.

401 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:36:46am

Burn Down The Mission - Elton John from Tumbleweed Connection

Not related to my above comment. I always liked this album.

402 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:39:18am

Just found them last night, the song that lead them to me was this one.

I can’t decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you’ll probably go to heaven
Please don’t hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It’s cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We’re going for a ride

403 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:39:26am

Elton John - Levon

39 years ago. Tumbleweed is 40 years.

404 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:41:08am

re: #402 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just found them last night, the song that lead them to me was this one.


[Video]I can’t decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you’ll probably go to heaven
Please don’t hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It’s cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We’re going for a ride

Banjo!

406 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:46:20am

re: #390 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Helen Thomas’ school scraps award over ‘Zionists’ remark

That woman is a creep. Maybe she should go back to where she came from.

No, I don’t really mean that. Wherever you are, that is where you are meant to be.

But seriously, FU Helen Thomas!!!

407 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:48:24am
408 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:48:54am

re: #406 eclectic infidel

That woman is a creep. Maybe she should go back to where she came from.

No, I don’t really mean that. Wherever you are, that is where you are meant to be.

But seriously, FU Helen Thomas!!!

Nice to see a sham’s legacy crumble while they’re still around to feel bitter about it.

409 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:52:07am

re: #405 Gus 802

Image: 6-10-17%20city%20hall%20scissor%20sisters%20babyda ddy%20with%20banjo.jpg

An electric banjo seems like it should break some basic fundamental law of nature.

410 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:03:27am

re: #409 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

An electric banjo seems like it should break some basic fundamental law of nature.

A Flying Vee electric banjo, no less…didn’t know such things existed ;-P

411 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:07:43am

‘WikiLeaks WON’T be stopped’: Founder reveals 100,000 encrypted versions of secret files have been sent out as insurance


The founder of WikiLeaks today revealed he has sent out 100,000 encrypted copies of secret diplomatic cables so they will definitely be released whatever happens to him.

Julian Assange, breaking his silence in an online question and answer session, acknowledged there had been death threats against him and his colleagues because of the damaging leaks.

He told for the first time of the insurance policy he had put in place to ensure that his whistleblowing website will not be silenced, whatever drastic steps may be taken by his enemies.

412 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:08:40am

Child porn sentence suspended

A man who was initially sentenced to a dozen years in prison this summer on child pornography charges was set free Tuesday.

Joel Large, 44, of Los Lunas, who was sentenced to 12 years in prison after being convicted on charges that involved producing child pornography and providing alcohol and cigarettes to underage boys, walked out of court a free man.

District Court Judge William Sanchez suspended the remainder of Large’s sentence and placed him on five years probation.

Large had entered a plea of no contest to sexual exploitation of children, drug trafficking and three counts of contributing to the delinquency to a minor, and was sentenced by Sanchez on July 13 to 18 years in prison, with six years suspended.

On Tuesday, Sanchez suspended the remainder of that prison sentence in response to a motion to reconsider sentence filed by Large’s defense attorney, Randy Chavez.

During the hearing, Assistant District Attorney Judith Reed said that the charges were brought to the attention of the Los Lunas Police Department in the fall of 2008 when one of the three juvenile victims reported to police that he was being stalked by Large in a sexual manner.

According to police reports, police served a search warrant at Large’s house and found photographs and videos depicting children as young as 13-years old engaged in explicit situations with other children, and sometimes other adults.

Police also found methamphetamine, syringes and baggies used in packaging. Large told police that he supplied alcohol and cigarettes to juveniles.

During the hearing, Large told Sanchez that he had been using methamphetamines since 1984.

“I was intoxicated on drugs where you’re really not in your right mind to make proper judgment on how you’re living your life,” he said.

He told the judge that he had no intention of distributing the methamphetamines and had no idea that downloading child pornography was a crime.

Because of the nature of the charges, he has spent a great deal of the time he was incarcerated in protective custody.

“That’s really hard to do,” Large said.

“I found God and Jesus Christ and plan to devote my life to doing good things,” he said.

413 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:10:21am

re: #412 Gus 802

Child porn sentence suspended

He could probably do a lot of good ministering to other prisoners as he continues his sentence.

414 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:11:14am

re: #413 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He could probably do a lot of good ministering to other prisoners as he continues his sentence.

Exactly. He wasn’t even in prison for years. Hard to believe that this bullshit still goes on in the justice system.

He”ll be back.

415 freetoken  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:11:27am

Bobby wants to be on the ticket?

Palin ‘Absolutely’ Electable in 2012, Republican Jindal Says


Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said that Sarah Palin is “absolutely” electable as president, a topic of debate among Republicans even though she has yet to announce her intentions for 2012.

“It’s up to her to make the case to voters,” Jindal said in an interview on “Political Capital With Al Hunt” airing this weekend on Bloomberg Television.

Jindal was asked about recent comments by Joe Scarborough, an MSNBC commentator and former Republican congressman from Florida, who said it was time for Republicans to “man up” and recognize the former Alaska governor is a reality TV show star who cannot be elected.

“I think there are several strong contenders,” said Jindal, who stopped short of endorsing Palin and said he doesn’t like “the Republican establishment” telling people how to vote.

[…]

Sooner or later I expect them to start blaming Soros for all those “establishment” Republicans bashing Esther.

416 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:15:45am

re: #415 freetoken

It’s gonna be a freak show. Ironically, the divide and conquer mentality of the gop could backfire as republican factions vie for power come next election cycle. Start eating their young, so to speak.

417 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:21:05am

re: #416 eclectic infidel

It’s gonna be a freak show. Ironically, the divide and conquer mentality of the gop could backfire as republican factions vie for power come next election cycle. Start eating their young, so to speak.

Or in this case they’re already eating the party elders.

It’s rather pathetic. Palin quit in disgrace being governor. Now she has a reality TV show and I read somewhere that Kate Gosselin is going to be a guest.

I guess now the GOP will embrace trash politics by way of Palin. Although many would say they already have by way of the Tea Party.

Be prepared for anything though. Americans are an unpredictable lot that believe in ghosts, goblins, and the literal word of the Bible.

418 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:23:10am
419 freetoken  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:27:42am

re: #416 eclectic infidel

re: #417 Gus 802

Well, the GOP could always go this route:

Ugandan politician urges men to sex strike for votes

A Ugandan opposition politician on Thursday urged his male supporters to go on sex strike until their wives promise not to vote for the ruling party in upcoming national elections.

420 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:29:53am

re: #418 Gus 802

Moron

A definite DERP

421 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:30:06am

re: #419 freetoken

re: #417 Gus 802

Well, the GOP could always go this route:

Ugandan politician urges men to sex strike for votes

Yeah, that should work.

/

422 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:30:44am

re: #419 freetoken

re: #417 Gus 802

Well, the GOP could always go this route:

Ugandan politician urges men to sex strike for votes

Yeah, thats a real threat.

423 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:36:35am

re: #420 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A definite DERP

Mouth breather. I love the way they try to make bear hunting sound like a near death experience. All you need is the right equipment, rifle, scope, and hunt downwind. Then you’re surrounded with other armed hunters and possibly side arms. But I suppose some people think that qualifies her for being president. L.O.L.

424 freetoken  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:37:07am

re: #421 Gus 802

re: #422 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, I take it both of you believe that Republican men aren’t… how can I put this… so desirable to their mates that a strike would be noticed by the women?

425 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:40:29am

re: #424 freetoken

re: #422 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, I take it both of you believe that Republican men aren’t… how can I put this… so desirable to their mates that a strike would be noticed by the women?

Nah. Typically women have the last word on sex in a heterosexual relationship — due in large part to biology and evolution (i.e. they’re the ones that get pregnant, etc.). Men going on a sex strike would be very atypical. Of course, we’re talking about a bunch of knuckleheads in Uganda.

426 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:41:04am

re: #424 freetoken

re: #422 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, I take it both of you believe that Republican men aren’t… how can I put this… so desirable to their mates that a strike would be noticed by the women?

I think that issue transcends political parties.

427 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:42:42am

Husband: I will not have sex with you unless you vote for Jane Doe!

Wife: OK, sounds good to me. Good night dear.

428 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:48:00am

re: #427 Gus 802

Husband: I will not have sex with you unless you vote for Jane Doe!

Wife: OK, sounds good to me. Good night dear.

It could be awkward if done over the phone:

Man: “No sex unless you vote the way I tell you!”
Woman: “Who is this!?”

429 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 1:49:55am

Going to sleep. Later.

430 freetoken  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 2:41:19am
431 freetoken  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 2:43:25am
432 freetoken  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 3:49:27am
433 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 4:11:04am

Pourvu quelles soient douces

434 researchok  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 4:47:03am

Morning, all

435 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:19:30am

Don’t criticize someone until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes.
Because when you do, you’re a mile away and have his shoes.
.


Morning sucks.
:)

436 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:29:09am

re: #435 Varek Raith

I get up at 5:00 AM every morning and five minutes after I’m awake I’m smiling and humming and thinking about what a great day it’s going to be.

437 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:32:08am

re: #436 Obdicut

I get up at 5:00 AM every morning and five minutes after I’m awake I’m smiling and humming and thinking about what a great day it’s going to be.

:/
Image: 38dd41c2-e5a5-45fc-a0ee-3d41a3f0eaab.jpg
:)

438 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:39:50am

re: #437 Varek Raith

My wife is not a morning person. At all. When I went on Welbutrin to quit smoking, it had the side effect of making me even more chipper. It’s a testament to her patience that she didn’t make me go do laps until she could deal.

439 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 5:41:49am

re: #438 Obdicut

My wife is not a morning person. At all. When I went on Welbutrin to quit smoking, it had the side effect of making me even more chipper. It’s a testament to her patience that she didn’t make me go do laps until she could deal.

Heh.
My eyes are very photosensitive. I get migraines if I’m out in it too long.
So, I don’t like the sun.

440 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:06:55am

re: #439 Varek Raith

Heh.
My eyes are very photosensitive. I get migraines if I’m out in it too long.
So, I don’t like the sun.

Yes, but do you sparkle?

441 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:10:28am

re: #439 Varek Raith

Heh.
My eyes are very photosensitive. I get migraines if I’m out in it too long.
So, I don’t like the sun.

Buy a winter home here in Portland. We go months without seeing the sun.

442 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:14:38am

Iraq: Operation Candy Drop

Fascist infidels!

443 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:35:15am

No shit….
Graham: GOP ‘made some pretty poor choices’ for Senate candidates this fall

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said that Republicans “made some pretty poor choices” in choosing their Senate candidates this fall.

Graham, in a Senate floor speech on Saturday, made an aside comment underscoring the frustration the GOP faced after some Tea Party-aligned nominees fell short in their campaigns.

444 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 7:52:06am

re: #443 Killgore Trout

The funny part his he only thinks the ones who lost are the bad choices.

I think every GOP senator who denies AGW, won’t pass tax breaks for the middle class without passing them for the highest 2% as well, and is on board with blocking START is a bad choice.

I.e. just about all of them.

445 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:17:24am

Dear GOP,
STOP SAYING I DON’T PAY TAXES! There are more to taxes than just income tax. Stop pretending otherwise.

Also, stop saying that the extension of unemployment benefits need to be paid for but the Bush tax cuts for the rich don’t.

Jackasses.

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:38:27am

re: #445 Varek Raith

You don’t pay taxes?

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:40:39am

re: #419 freetoken

FBV to Wife… Am I hurting you?
Wife to FBV… No. You are just annoying me.

448 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:44:39am

The Little green football prayer list
On Dec. 5, 1933, national Prohibition came to an end as Utah became the 36th state to ratify the 21st Amendment to the Constitution, repealing the 18th Amendment

Thank you Lord for all the prayers answered every Sunday Morning:
We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..
But we all agree to extend well wishes, Prayers and healing to our fellow lizards…
NJHockeyfan:My friend’s son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
BubbleheadII: But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Obdicut: My friend Pam, who’s ovarian cancer has returned. She’s going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Dark_Falcon: His Mother had a stroke..She is getting better.. Please heal her Lord
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I’d appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.

Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife’s best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.

Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn’t go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could you add my parents?
They’re in their 80’s and slipping in to ALZ…Simultaneously
HoosierHoops: Bring peace and strength to Joe and his family
Thank you Lord..
Amen

449 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:46:49am

re: #369 Gus 802

Planes, trains, and automobiles.

If that’s the case then forget about large scale wind turbines near any high density population areas.

From that earlier wiki link:

“… a 2007 Swedish study report stated, “Annoyance is an adverse health effect.”
en.wikipedia.org

I wonder if political news should have a health warning attached.

450 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:50:16am

re: #448 HoosierHoops

Could you add “prayers for all the GOP senators and house members in Washington, may God guide them in all their decisions”

Walt.

451 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:51:10am

re: #448 HoosierHoops

The Little green football prayer list
On Dec. 5, 1933, national Prohibition came to an end as Utah became the 36th state to ratify the 21st Amendment to the Constitution, repealing the 18th Amendment

Thank you Lord for all the prayers answered every Sunday Morning:
We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..
But we all agree to extend well wishes, Prayers and healing to our fellow lizards…
NJHockeyfan:My friend’s son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
BubbleheadII: But please add this man soul to it.

James S Stoddard.

He was a good Man and my brother.

He will be missed, but not forgotten.

Obdicut: My friend Pam, who’s ovarian cancer has returned. She’s going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Dark_Falcon: His Mother had a stroke..She is getting better.. Please heal her Lord
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I’d appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.

Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife’s best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.

Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn’t go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could you add my parents?
They’re in their 80’s and slipping in to ALZ…Simultaneously
HoosierHoops: Bring peace and strength to Joe and his family
Thank you Lord..
Amen

Hoosier, my dad passed away on Nov. 15. Thanks for your prayers.

452 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:53:02am

re: #451 Alouette

Hoosier, my dad passed away on Nov. 15. Thanks for your prayers.

I should update as well. My father is, thankfully, much better, and my mother-in-law passed away in late September.

Thanks as always for maintaining the list.

453 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:56:29am

re: #451 Alouette

I’m sorry..I removed him from the list..
kind regards

454 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 8:58:16am

Muslims call FBI against mosque attendee who keeps preaching war, only to discover he was a highly paid FBI mole. wapo.st

455 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:02:00am

re: #454 Stanley Sea

Good morning. Great catch, gonna page it?

456 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:06:18am

re: #454 Stanley Sea

That’s fucking terrible.

In the Irvine case, Monteilh’s mission as an informant backfired. Muslims were so alarmed by his talk of violent jihad that they obtained a restraining order against him.

That’s good to hear, but why the hell was he talking about violent jihad, rather than just looking for others talking of it?

This part is funny-sad:

“The community feels betrayed,” said Shakeel Syed, executive director of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, an umbrella group of more than 75 mosques.

“They got a guy, a bona fide criminal, and obviously trained him and sent him to infiltrate mosques,” Syed said. “And when things went sour, they ditched him and he got mad. It’s like a soap opera, for God’s sake.”

457 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:06:25am

re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist

Updated..Thanks

458 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:06:33am

re: #455 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning. Great catch, gonna page it?

Got it from an Ebert tweet.

Will you page it? I’m in fail mode with my computer these days, cannot grab the bookmarklet anymore. Weird, I tried for days and just gave up.

Good morn to you too. I believe rain is on the way!

459 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:08:56am

re: #456 Obdicut

That’s fucking terrible.

That’s good to hear, but why the hell was he talking about violent jihad, rather than just looking for others talking of it?

This part is funny-sad:

It sounds like they used a really inappropriate informant. The part that slays me is that the guy is apparently now approaching Muslims in the gym to apologize for being a jackass.

460 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:09:08am

re: #457 HoosierHoops

Updated..Thanks

Did you add my request?

461 Max  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:10:46am

Ever wonder what Hot Air readers think about the John Birch Society?

Surprisingly, the results are fairly mixed.

462 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:11:46am

re: #460 Walter L. Newton

Did you add my request?

It’s a Lizard’s prayer list Walter

463 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:14:42am

re: #459 SanFranciscoZionist

Informants are always a tricky goddamn business. Using a guy who’s an ordinary criminal to look for terrorism— and, in this case, incite it— is really damn dumb.

Muslims have been giving good information to the FBI. This is going to hurt that. Was it really worth it to risk all that in order to get this informant douchebag to try to find someone he could entrap into agreeing to commit terrorism?

Stupidly short-sighted.

464 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:19:27am

re: #462 HoosierHoops

It’s a Lizard’s prayer list Walter

And I’m not a Lizard?

465 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:20:54am

re: #464 Walter L. Newton

And I’m not a Lizard?

Dear Lawd..
Help Walter be a better comedy writer

466 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:22:10am

re: #465 HoosierHoops

Dear Lawd..
Help Walter be a better comedy writer

I wasn’t kidding about my prayer request. And I suspect you will honor it… right? Considering your header… “We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..” I would hope you would.

467 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:27:50am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

Walter:

A) You’re an atheist, so you don’t really hope that God helps them.

B) You don’t know the GOP senators. You have no personal connection to them. That’s what Hoops meant by it being a list for Lizards.

C) Every normal cliche sounds better if you change one of the words to “lion”.

468 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:29:35am

re: #467 Obdicut

Walter:

A) You’re an atheist, so you don’t really hope that God helps them.

B) You don’t know the GOP senators. You have no personal connection to them. That’s what Hoops meant by it being a list for Lizards.

C) Every normal cliche sounds better if you change one of the words to “lion”.

Are you taking care of the prayer list now? I don’t think so… toss off…. I was requesting this from HH.

469 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:31:05am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

I wasn’t kidding about my prayer request. And I suspect you will honor it… right? Considering your header… “We come from every background at LGF and every opinion About Religion and about you God..” I would hope you would.

Politics and religion don’t mix.. I won’t be posting for the GOP or the Dems or Washington or China or France etc
I’d be happy to add your family or a friend Walter…

470 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:31:19am

re: #468 Walter L. Newton

Ah, come on, Walter. Turn that lion upside down.

471 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:32:07am

re: #470 Obdicut

Ah, come on, Walter. Turn that lion upside down.

or loin. either word adds a great deal…

472 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:32:27am

re: #469 HoosierHoops

Politics and religion don’t mix.. I won’t be posting for the GOP or the Dems or Washington or China or France etc
I’d be happy to add your family or a friend Walter…

Fine… I’ll remember this.

473 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:33:53am

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad lion.

474 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:34:18am

re: #471 Aceofwhat?

When life gives you lemons, make a lion.

475 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:35:18am

re: #473 jaunte

You can tell a lot about a man from his lion.

Behind every successful man is a lion.

A lion is forever.

476 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:35:38am

If at first you don’t succeed, lion lion again.

(bad)

477 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:35:44am

To be or not to be..That is the Lion

478 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:36:36am

re: #475 Obdicut

The mass of men lead lions of quiet desperation.

479 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:37:43am

re: #474 Obdicut

When life gives you lemons, make a lion.

I like to gird my loins. But not with lemons.

480 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:38:08am

This guy is getting cleverer and cleverer…

WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant ‘Insurance’ File if Shut Down

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.

One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.

Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.

foxnews.com

481 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:38:23am

I regret that i have but one loin to give to my country.

482 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:38:30am

In the lion, the mighty lion the jungle sleeps tonight.

483 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:39:54am

re: #463 Obdicut

Informants are always a tricky goddamn business. Using a guy who’s an ordinary criminal to look for terrorism— and, in this case, incite it— is really damn dumb.

Muslims have been giving good information to the FBI. This is going to hurt that. Was it really worth it to risk all that in order to get this informant douchebag to try to find someone he could entrap into agreeing to commit terrorism?

Stupidly short-sighted.

Oh gawd what a mess in LA. The FBI has some serious patching up to do, then they need to work on their informant policies. It’s great the Muslims were reporting him, I can’t wait for Harpy’s comments on that.

484 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:40:13am

re: #481 Aceofwhat?

I regret that i have but one loin to give to my country.

Have you no empathy for the tender-loins of LGF?

//

485 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:40:25am

re: #482 jaunte

You know what they say about March, in like a lion, out like a lion.

486 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:40:42am

Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.

487 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:41:15am

re: #480 Walter L. Newton

This guy is getting cleverer and cleverer…

WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant ‘Insurance’ File if Shut Down

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.

One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.

Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Addendum…


Assange warned: “We have over a long period of time distributed encrypted backups of material we have yet to release. All we have to do is release the password to that material, and it is instantly available.”

This guy has read Digital Fortress one time too many.

488 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:41:54am

re: #484 Gus 802

Have you no empathy for the tender-loins of LGF?

//

nope. off with their lions!

489 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:12am

re: #486 jaunte

Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.

If you order right now..We’ll double your order of Lions..Pay only separate Shipping and Handling

490 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:12am

re: #486 jaunte

Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.

Wikileaks documents reveal that Big Oil has been reaping in massive profits on the backs of Americans while sending emails to each other in the background!

//

491 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:32am

The public interest is best served by the free exchange of lions.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little lion deserve neither liberty nor lion.

492 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:42:44am

re: #486 jaunte

Wikileaks to reveal commercial secret:
$9.98 is a deceptive pricing scheme in which the actual price is closer to $10 than $9.

I like the part where he’s going to reveal information about BP. Because, you know, their reputation is at stake//

493 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:43:20am

re: #491 Obdicut

The public interest is best served by the free exchange of lions.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little lion deserve neither liberty nor lion.

That explains the lionization of Assange.

/

494 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:43:29am

re: #458 Stanley Sea

Okay will do. Yup light rain I think. D_L says Hi to all. Heh, gonna be a natural follow on to the Feds warrantless credit card tracking.

495 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:43:33am

re: #490 Gus 802

BP internal emails said to indicate ‘careless attitude’ about potential lion spills.

496 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:44:01am

re: #492 Aceofwhat?

I like the part where he’s going to reveal information about BP. Because, you know, their reputation is at stake//

“The military papers on Guantanamo Bay, yet to be published, have been supplied by Bradley Manning, Assange’s primary source until his arrest in May. Other documents that Assange is confirmed to possess include an aerial video of a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan that killed civilians, BP files and Bank of America documents.”

497 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:45:17am

re: #495 jaunte

BP internal emails said to indicate ‘careless attitude’ about potential lion spills.

Lions! We’re sorry. — Tony Hayward

498 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:45:59am

re: #496 Walter L. Newton

“The military papers on Guantanamo Bay, yet to be published, have been supplied by Bradley Manning, Assange’s primary source until his arrest in May. Other documents that Assange is confirmed to possess include an aerial video of a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan that killed civilians, BP files and Bank of America documents.”

The BP files are still the best part. It’s not like they contributed heavily to a massive oil spill or anything…oh, wait…

499 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:48:10am

Further…

“AP - WikiLeaks’s main server in France has gone offline, preventing many users from accessing the U.S. State Department cables and other documents the site has posted online, a group of Swiss supporters said Sunday.


The president of the Swiss Pirate Party, which controls the wikileaks.ch Web address, said he was in the process of pointing that domain name to a different server, apparently based in Sweden.

“The WikiLeaks server in France seems to have been switched off,” Denis Simonet told The Associated Press.

“We’re now pointing the domain to another address,” he added. “That’s going to take a few hours.””

france24.com

500 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:48:34am

re: #498 Aceofwhat?

The BP files are still the best part. It’s not like they contributed heavily to a massive oil spill or anything…oh, wait…

I’m sure Joe “I’m Sorry BP” Barton would be sweating it if Assange really has something up his sleeve.

(sinister laugh, pinkie finger sticking up)

501 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:52:01am

re: #500 BigPapa

I’m sure Joe “I’m Sorry BP” Barton would be sweating it if Assange really has something up his sleeve.

(sinister laugh, pinkie finger sticking up)

Yeah, i don’t know…was he covering something up? I thought he was just being an idiot.

502 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:53:53am

re: #501 Aceofwhat?

Yeah, i don’t know…was he covering something up? I thought he was just being an idiot.

I don’t know, but I wonder if he sent a longer ‘no, really Tony, I feel bad for you. I hope this isn’t too bad for you guys.

Are we still on next weekend for bringing the wife and kids on the yacht? They’re really excited!’

503 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:58:42am

Tis education forms the common mind;
Just as the lion is bent, the tree’s inclined.

Alexander Lionpope

504 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 9:58:50am

WikiLeaks: Saudis Largest Source of Terror Funds!

Film @ 11.

505 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:00:03am

Julian Assange:
For the past four years one of our goals has been to lionise the source who take the real risks in nearly every journalistic disclosure and without whose efforts, journalists would be nothing. If indeed it is the case, as alleged by the Pentagon, that the young soldier - Bradley Manning - is behind some of our recent disclosures, then he is without doubt an unparalleled hero.

guardian.co.uk

506 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:03:25am

re: #505 Walter L. Newton

Julian Assange:
For the past four years one of our goals has been to lionise the source who take the real risks in nearly every journalistic disclosure and without whose efforts, journalists would be nothing. If indeed it is the case, as alleged by the Pentagon, that the young soldier - Bradley Manning - is behind some of our recent disclosures, then he is without doubt an unparalleled hero.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

Lionise!

507 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:04:52am

You can’t hide your lion eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you’d realize
There ain’t no way to hide your lionise

OK, you can groan now.

508 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:06:39am

re: #504 Gus 802

WikiLeaks: Saudis Largest Source of Terror Funds! Film @ 11.

I don’t think the seriousness of the Wikileaks document release has anything to do with the present contents of the material that Assange released.

But this whole episode does speak to the future possibilities of someone like Assange holding a real “ace in the hole” that could be capable of doing massive damage to lives and/or worldwide security.

Assange is just a foretaste of what could really happen, that’s the real message in all this.

509 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:23:04am

Ok… I’ll talk about something else besides Assange… just come back.

510 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:24:58am

re: #480 Walter L. Newton

Heh. I can only wonder what secrets are located on my HDD.

511 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:25:42am

re: #510 Sergey Romanov

Heh. I can only wonder what secrets are located on my HDD.

What’s the matter… he didn’t give you the key yet?

512 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:27:14am

re: #511 Walter L. Newton

Guess.

513 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:27:22am

re: #510 Sergey Romanov

Could be a bunch of file porn.

I’d never download an encrypted file I didn’t know the contents of, even if that sentence is rather semantically tricky.

514 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:28:20am

re: #513 Obdicut

Well, it doesn’t beg for porridge, as we say.

515 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:29:08am

re: #514 Sergey Romanov

You mean it doesn’t beg for lions.

516 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:29:21am

re: #512 Sergey Romanov

Guess.

Well, according the the articles I’ve read this morning, both in the British papers, France 24 English language version and Le Monde, no one has been given the key… yet.

517 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:29:54am

re: #515 Obdicut

No, the lion doesn’t beg for porridge.

518 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:30:32am

re: #517 Sergey Romanov

519 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:30:52am

re: #516 Walter L. Newton

Correct.

520 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:31:19am

And there goes Farve.

521 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:31:59am

re: #520 Stanley Sea

And there goes Farve.

What?

522 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:32:51am

re: #514 Sergey Romanov

Well, it doesn’t beg for porridge, as we say.

re: #515 Obdicut

You mean it doesn’t beg for lions.

re: #517 Sergey Romanov

No, the lion doesn’t beg for porridge.

Coming into this thread (true of any thread really) without reading most of the latter comments has lead to some major confusion in my meagre brain.

523 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:33:30am

re: #518 Obdicut

[Video]

This… has also been accomplished. [No.2]

524 lostlakehiker  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:33:55am

re: #335 Gus 802

In other news…

N.J. environmentalists protest proposed bill restricting on-shore wind power projects

Health risks? Wind turbines pose health risks?

Wind turbines pose health risks. They really do.

You might be watching one spin, raptly mesmerized, and drive into a tree. That could hurt your health.

You might go hang-gliding and fly into one. That could really damage your health.

You might buy some suction cups and rope gear and try climbing one, and fall.

You might spend all your money fighting to get them out of your neighborhood, defined as the next state over, and find yourself unable to buy food. That could damage your nutritional balance.

Or you might find yourself convinced by all of the above. Plus, wind turbines cause autism, they damage the immune system, their electricity comes from counterclockwise spinning electrons which upsets the shi balance of homes powered by them, and seeing them spin causes epileptic fits.

The process of coming to believe all that is called, in carefully medical terminology,

going bonkers.

Some environmentalists just don’t get it, that to have a civilization and also protect most of the environment, you must accept that not every last patch of land can be protected from human agency.

525 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:34:00am

re: #520 Stanley Sea

And there goes Farve.

Did you see if it was his right or left wrist?

526 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:38:01am

Tea Party Nation President Says It ‘Makes A Lot Of Sense’ To Restrict Voting Only To Property Owners

PHILLIPS: The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasn’t you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if you’re a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If you’re not a property owner, you know, I’m sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners.

527 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:38:01am

re: #524 lostlakehiker

Some environmentalists just don’t get it, that to have a civilization and also protect most of the environment, you must accept that not every last patch of land can be protected from human agency.

Did you not bother to read the story? The environmentalists are the ones fighting to get the wind power allowed to be built near houses.

When state Sen. Sean Kean saw the fierce opposition a proposed wind turbine stirred in his shore-area district, he came up with a solution: bar the construction of industrial electricity-generating windmills within 2,000 feet of any residentially zoned land.

But in the most densely populated state in the nation, environmentalists say it’s a case of “not in my backyard” gone wild. They say it would make it nearly impossible to put windmills on land along the wind-swept Jersey Shore.

This is environmentalists fighting against NIMBY. The bill restricting the wind power was proposed by Kean, who’s a Republican.

528 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:38:48am

Now Gingrich is using the Wikileaks documents release to call the administration ‘shallow’ and ‘amateurish’. Somehow, I’m pretty sure there’s a moral disconnect there by him using those leaks to make that assessment. Imagine if you will had they released the State Department documents during the Bush White House years. If I remember correctly, the Bush White House used to always claim that most of the State Department was out of their control and populated by civil servant lifers.

thehill.com

529 Kragar  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:40:46am

re: #528 Gus 802

I find Newt using the word shallow to be highly ironic.

530 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:40:47am

re: #528 Gus 802

Now Gingrich is using the Wikileaks documents release to call the administration ‘shallow’ and ‘amateurish’. Somehow, I’m pretty sure there’s a moral disconnect there by him using those leaks to make that assessment. Imagine if you will had they released the State Department documents during the Bush White House years. If I remember correctly, the Bush White House used to always claim that most of the State Department was out of their control and populated by civil servant lifers.

[Link: thehill.com…]

Looks like the bag of hot air is actually trying to blame White House for the Manning leak. Let’s see. That was a result of OPSEC procedures put in place by which administration?

531 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:41:47am

re: #528 Gus 802

I think calling an administration ‘shallow’ is a pretty shallow accusation, really.

I haven’t actually heard a good explanation for why Manning did have access to all those cables. Does anyone know the actual story?

532 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:42:27am

re: #479 Aceofwhat?

I like to gird my loins. But not with lemons.

Or with lions, I would hope.

533 jaunte  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:42:56am

re: #532 reine.de.tout

Too scratchy.

534 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:43:16am

re: #522 b_sharp

re: #515 Obdicut

re: #517 Sergey Romanov

Coming into this thread (true of any thread really) without reading most of the latter comments has lead to some major confusion in my meagre brain.

Mine too, but I’m just tryin’ to go with the flow.

535 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:44:18am

re: #532 reine.de.tout

Or with lions, I would hope.

With evil Islamist lions?

536 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:44:45am

re: #531 Obdicut

I think calling an administration ‘shallow’ is a pretty shallow accusation, really.

I haven’t actually heard a good explanation for why Manning did have access to all those cables. Does anyone know the actual story?

I think it was due in part because of shared information. The DoD had direct access to State Department documents — i.e. secret diplomatic cables. That’s since be revised. Don’t know the details which may or may not be revealed during the military trial. Given that it will be a military CM I doubt we’ll get many details for security reasons. Unless of course they’re leaked.

537 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:47:52am

re: #532 reine.de.tout

Or with lions, I would hope.

i could use velvet…

538 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:48:24am

Damage control as State Department reins in access

The department has pledged to review how classified information should be shared in future.

State Department spokesman Philip Crowley confirmed yesterday that the database link to a specific network - later confirmed to be the Pentagon - had been temporarily severed.

“We have made some adjustments and temporarily narrowed the access to these documents, as we and others work through the implications of this leak and make sure that we have taken the appropriate steps so that it will not happen again,” Mr Crowley said.

A day after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned the WikiLeaks disclosures for putting people in danger and called them illegal, her department launched a vigilant defence of the work performed by diplomats.

With cables indicating officials under Mrs Clinton’s leadership had been asked to collect personal information while working in embassies around the world, Mr Crowley denied that spying was part of their job description.

“Diplomats are diplomats and their job is to interact with people, gather information, gain a perspective of events around the world, and report on those findings in a way that helps inform our policies and inform our actions,” he said. “They are not intelligence assets.”

The State Department’s temporary restriction of access to diplomatic cables comes after US government agencies were criticised for not sharing information in the lead-up to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks there…

I’m sure we all remember the criticism of the lack of inter-agency sharing of intelligence. That changed after 911. Now, if Gingrich wants to play this game, we might want to ask who put the OPSEC procedures in place that allowed Manning access to those documents.

539 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 10:55:05am

From June.

U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

Manning told Lamo that he enlisted in the Army in 2007 and held a Top Secret/SCI clearance, details confirmed by his friends and family members. He claimed to have been rummaging through classified military and government networks for more than a year and said that the networks contained “incredible things, awful things … that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC.”

See! He joined the Army in 2007 and probably got his Top Secret/SCI clearance soon after or at least by 2008. This was during the Bush Administration! Clearly, it’s Bush’s fault!

/Gingrich logic.

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