RIP, Elizabeth Edwards
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Elizabeth Edwards died today at the age of 61. I’m sure everyone will join me in expressing our condolences to the Edwards family.
328 comments
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insanity police Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:39:26pm |
Rest in peace. She was intelligent, well-spoken, and a real class act. Heaven has no doubt welcomed her with open arms. Prayers for her family and friends.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:41:08pm |
As she said, our days are numbered. There’s a verse from the Bible, something about when you do something, do it. She did it. Well done, Elizabeth.
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engineer cat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:42:11pm |
she was a good example of how to bear up under some tough breaks
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:46:29pm |
This is tragic. I will never forgive her husband.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:46:49pm |
re: #2 insanity police
Rest in peace. She was intelligent, well-spoken, and a real class act. Heaven has no doubt welcomed her with open arms. Prayers for her family and friends.
Amen.
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Jeff In Ohio Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:48:23pm |
Jame Fallows has a really nice requiem that gives a small peak into the monumental intellect of Elizabeth Edwards:
theatlantic.com
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:48:30pm |
re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote
This is tragic. I will never forgive her husband.
Yeah. I have to say my first thought was, “Oh, her kids”, and my second was, “So, how’s the SOB feeling now?”
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:48:50pm |
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researchok Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:49:33pm |
I wish for a quick healing for her children and family.
May they come to know real inner peace and be strengthened by her love and the example of the good and meaningful life she leaves as her legacy.
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researchok Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:50:39pm |
re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah. I have to say my first thought was, “Oh, her kids”, and my second was, “So, how’s the SOB feeling now?”
Headed to Wilmington, no doubt.
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:53:33pm |
This lady definitely deserves a thread (tks Charles) and to be the lead story in all the news.
She was much much more than her husband’s affair. There’s a lot to be read about her right now, deservedly so.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:54:33pm |
Forgive me if I got this wrong but I think a little mentioned part of the proposed tax compromise was to allow R&D deductions to companies, like the ones that are working on cancer treatments.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Dec 7, 2010 4:54:50pm |
RIP…. my heart goes out to her children.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:01:58pm |
Here’s a nice picture.
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122 Year Old Obama Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:10:05pm |
My heart goes out to the Edwards family.
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wrenchwench Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:15:08pm |
Rest in peace, Elizabeth.
Best wishes to her family and loved ones. Time helps to heal all wounds.
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FreedomMoon Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:23:53pm |
This is such a tragedy. It is really hard for me to wish death on anyone (reallly hard), but her sleaze-ball of an ex-husband should be in her spot. The world would be much better off with a healthy and strong Elizabeth Edwards than a manipulative, self-centered, and narcissistic John Edwards who threw everyone in his family and everyone around him under the bus to pursue his selfish goals. That woman had to wade through shit’s creek, and by golly she did; she persevered through utter, public (national) humiliation like no one else—I really do admire her. Not trying to be cliche, but I think there’s something we can learn from her to be better people.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:27:32pm |
re: #24 tacuba14
This is such a tragedy. It is really hard for me to wish death on anyone (reallly hard), but her sleaze-ball of an ex-husband should be in her spot. The world would be much better off with a healthy and strong Elizabeth Edwards than a manipulative, self-centered, and narcissistic John Edwards who threw everyone in his family and everyone around him under the bus to pursue his selfish goals. That woman had to wade through shit’s creek, and by golly she did; she persevered through utter, public (national) humiliation like no one else—I really do admire her. Not trying to be cliche, but I think there’s something we can learn from her to be better people.
As a partisan Dem, I can’t help but think: if this ruined John Edwards’ career, as it should have, why is Gingrich (with a very similar history, worse in some ways) on the short list of GOP contenders?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:28:21pm |
re: #25 palomino
As a partisan Dem, I can’t help but think: if this ruined John Edwards’ career, as it should have, why is Gingrich (with a very similar history, worse in some ways) on the short list of GOP contenders?
Gee… I was wondering how many comment we could get through before partisan politics took over… not a record tonight, but damn close.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:29:16pm |
re: #25 palomino
As a partisan Dem, I can’t help but think: if this ruined John Edwards’ career, as it should have, why is Gingrich (with a very similar history, worse in some ways) on the short list of GOP contenders?
IOKIYAR
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:29:58pm |
re: #26 Walter L. Newton
Gee… I was wondering how many comment we could get through before partisan politics took over… not a record tonight, but damn close.
I felt like once #24’s death wish was thrown out there, complete with a summation of Edwards’ sins, then it was open season.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:30:22pm |
re: #25 palomino
As a partisan Dem, I can’t help but think: if this ruined John Edwards’ career, as it should have, why is Gingrich (with a very similar history, worse in some ways) on the short list of GOP contenders?
Well Gingrich maybe on someones short list but he is not on the GOPs short list… beleive me when I tell you they will run someone shiny & new.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:32:40pm |
re: #29 brookly red
Well Gingrich maybe on someones short list but he is not on the GOPs short list… beleive me when I tell you they will run someone shiny & new.
Saint Sarah, only she can save us now!
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:33:47pm |
re: #29 brookly red
Well Gingrich maybe on someones short list but he is not on the GOPs short list… beleive me when I tell you they will run someone shiny & new.
Oh, I don’t think he’ll win, but he’s got a following. Why I’m not really sure, but he’s what passes for an intellectual in a crowd of people like Palin, Huckabee and all those boring aw-shucks governors.
Shiny and new would be a great idea for the GOP. A 73 year old guy who was kinda likeable got beaten badly in 2008. A 70 year old man who’s really unlikeable probably isn’t the answer in 2012.
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Four More Tears Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:33:50pm |
I think the most disrespectful thing we can do to Elizabeth Edwards right now is make this all about him.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:33:57pm |
re: #30 jamesfirecat
Saint Sarah, only she can save us now!
she has a following but I think the candidate will be some one we haven’t really seen much of yet.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:35:07pm |
re: #33 brookly red
she has a following but I think the candidate will be some one we haven’t really seen much of yet.
Maybe, but it’s kinda late to just decide to run, given all the groundwork and organizing you need to do in advance.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:35:11pm |
re: #25 palomino
As a partisan Dem, I can’t help but think: if this ruined John Edwards’ career, as it should have, why is Gingrich (with a very similar history, worse in some ways) on the short list of GOP contenders?
Because who’s competing for a slot? Palin? Huckabee? Their personal lives aren’t such a mess, but when it comes to policy, oh dear!
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FreedomMoon Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:35:58pm |
re: #28 palomino
I felt like once #24’s death wish was thrown out there, complete with a summation of Edwards’ sins, then it was open season.
Let me make it clear, I don’t wish death on John Edwards, but I am judging him. If you’re a contender to be President of the United States, you throw yourself in the spotlight to be judged, just as I judge Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney of their actions. And the world would be better if John was in her place. She was an activist for health-care equality, a loving mother who I’m pretty sure would do a much better job raising her children than John. (And FYI I am a Democrat)
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:36:15pm |
re: #34 palomino
Maybe, but it’s kinda late to just decide to run, given all the groundwork and organizing you need to do in advance.
just cause you don’t see it does not mean it is not happening…
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:36:31pm |
re: #35 lostlakehiker
Because who’s competing for a slot? Palin? Huckabee? Their personal lives aren’t such a mess, but when it comes to policy, oh dear!
Don’t forget Governor Mittens… or at least he desperately doesn’t want to be forgotten no matter how much he fails….
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:37:10pm |
re: #38 jamesfirecat
Don’t forget Governor Mittens… or at least he desperately doesn’t want to be forgotten no matter how much he fails…
try thinking outside the box…
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:37:33pm |
re: #37 brookly red
just cause you don’t see it does not mean it is not happening…
Well he better show himself within a year from now…. maybe he’ll try to take the Law & Order guy approach and do great until he decides to actually announce what he’s doing…
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:39:04pm |
re: #40 jamesfirecat
Well he better show himself within a year from now… maybe he’ll try to take the Law & Order guy approach and do great until he decides to actually announce what he’s doing…
I don’t think we can look at the past to predict the future this time around…
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:39:38pm |
re: #36 tacuba14
Let me make it clear, I don’t wish death on John Edwards, but I am judging him. If you’re a contender to be President of the United States, you throw yourself in the spotlight to be judged, just as I judge Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney of their actions. And the world would be better if John was in her place. She was an activist for health-care equality, a loving mother who I’m pretty sure would do a much better job raising her children than John. (And FYI I am a Democrat)
Your comment was totally cool, I’ve got no problem with it. Just pointing out the incongruity of a husband’s choice ruining his career in some cases (Edwards) but not others (Gingrich).
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:40:40pm |
re: #41 brookly red
I don’t think we can look at the past to predict the future this time around…
Well yeah, but the past is all we have…
If we don’t want to try and predict the future based on it what are we suppose to do here to pass the time?
(Pause)
So anybody else excited that Leverage is coming back soon?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:41:39pm |
re: #37 brookly red
just cause you don’t see it does not mean it is not happening…
Really, so the PACs and other grassroots organizations working for Wonderful Candidate X are in hiding?
They really don’t want to be discovered? Because the best thing for a candidate is to not get attention? Get WikiLeaks on the case.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:41:57pm |
re: #39 brookly red
try thinking outside the box…
If they don’t beclown themselves in the next two years, Rubio and Christie have the organizations, yet still have that new car smell. I feel like the guys talking football in the back of the wake.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:43:42pm |
re: #46 Decatur Deb
If they don’t beclown themselves in the next two years, Rubio and Christie have the organizations, yet still have that new car smell. I feel like the guys talking football in the back of the wake.
Rubio compared teaching of evolution to the way that communists in Cuba taught their children to betray their parents and break up the bonds of family.
I could be mistaken about that, but if you ask me that’s a whole three ring circus worth of beclowning if you ask me…
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:43:43pm |
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Decatur Deb Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:45:26pm |
re: #47 jamesfirecat
Rubio compared teaching of evolution to the way that communists in Cuba taught their children to betray their parents and break up the bonds of family.
I could be mistaken about that, but if you ask me that’s a whole three ring circus worth of beclowning if you ask me…
I’m talking Them, not US.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:46:10pm |
re: #46 Decatur Deb
If they don’t beclown themselves in the next two years, Rubio and Christie have the organizations, yet still have that new car smell. I feel like the guys talking football in the back of the wake.
hmmm, but whos wake?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:46:35pm |
re: #46 Decatur Deb
If they don’t beclown themselves in the next two years, Rubio and Christie have the organizations, yet still have that new car smell. I feel like the guys talking football in the back of the wake.
They may have organizations, but they don’t have the organizations to run for president.
Obama was fast, but he had two years more in the Senate than Rubio, a guy who just got elected. And a younger guy with even less experience wouldn’t highlight Obama’s biggest shortcomings: inexperience and all that goes with it.
Remember, if you’re gonna run, you almost certainly need to announce within the next few months. The latecomer candidate who gets drafted is a fantasy that never plays out.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:46:59pm |
re: #50 brookly red
hmmm, but whos wake?
Elizabeth Edwards sadly….
(It’s the obvious answer at least…)
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:47:26pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:48:45pm |
re: #43 palomino
Your comment was totally cool, I’ve got no problem with it. Just pointing out the incongruity of a husband’s choice ruining his career in some cases (Edwards) but not others (Gingrich).
Edwards’ affair might not have ruined his career - may have set it back temporarily, but I’m not sure it would have ruined it.
What completely ruined Edwards for me (and I wasn’t a fan before, just to be clear), was his denial of his own child, as if that child were nothing. Ick.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:50:13pm |
re: #54 reine.de.tout
Edwards’ affair might not have ruined his career - may have set it back temporarily, but I’m not sure it would have ruined it.
What completely ruined Edwards for me (and I wasn’t a fan before, just to be clear), was his denial of his own child, as if that child were nothing. Ick.
he just never was believable…
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:51:13pm |
re: #54 reine.de.tout
Edwards’ affair might not have ruined his career - may have set it back temporarily, but I’m not sure it would have ruined it.
What completely ruined Edwards for me (and I wasn’t a fan before, just to be clear), was his denial of his own child, as if that child were nothing. Ick.
True, Eliot Spitzer made a fairly quick comeback. But Edwards is hated, whereas Spitzer, Sanford, Craig, Vitter, Cinton, et al. were mostly just mocked.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:54:16pm |
re: #25 palomino
hypocrisy as newt himself said to one of his many jilted wives”it doesn’t matter what i do what matters is what i have to say”
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 5:58:10pm |
re: #56 palomino
True, Eliot Spitzer made a fairly quick comeback. But Edwards is hated, whereas Spitzer, Sanford, Craig, Vitter, Cinton, et al. were mostly just mocked.
The difference between Edwards and all the others you mention - the baby. And Edwards denied, denied, denied - what an awful thing for that child to have to grow up with, IMO. I’m sure she’ll grow up to be just fine, most of us get over whatever traumas we suffer - but his denials were for the purpose of preserving his own personal power, and he had no feeling or intention for doing what was in the best interests of that child, as far as I could determine from his actions, until he was forced to. And then the whole thing with his friend, making his friend claim HE had the affair and the baby was HIS, not Edwards’ - the whole thing stunk and was just classless.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:00:32pm |
re: #58 reine.de.tout
The difference between Edwards and all the others you mention - the baby. And Edwards denied, denied, denied - what an awful thing for that child to have to grow up with, IMO. I’m sure she’ll grow up to be just fine, most of us get over whatever traumas we suffer - but his denials were for the purpose of preserving his own personal power, and he had no feeling or intention for doing what was in the best interests of that child, as far as I could determine from his actions, until he was forced to. And then the whole thing with his friend, making his friend claim HE had the affair and the baby was HIS, not Edwards’ - the whole thing stunk and was just classless.
You’re right. And I’m afraid that kid will have serious issues to work through, unfortunately.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:01:39pm |
re: #60 palomino
she’ll be fine.not the first child to have to eventually realize dad’s a d-bag.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:02:30pm |
re: #60 palomino
You’re right. And I’m afraid that kid will have serious issues to work through, unfortunately.
Could turn him into a Republican. And the wake moves into the drunken joking phase…
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Bear Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:02:48pm |
Being away from the computer and without radio all day, it was sad to hear the news report about Mrs. Edwards while driving home. Peace Mrs. Edwards.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:04:03pm |
re: #61 Boondock St. Bender
she’ll be fine.not the first child to have to eventually realize dad’s a d-bag.
I hope so. I’m sure there will be plenty of support for her. BUT her soap opera will play out in public, which is always an aggravating factor. And lots of kids have lifelong issues over these kinds of things.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:07:05pm |
re: #65 Bear
OT Anyone remember about December 7, 1941?
I did!
Watched History Channel Pearl Harbor show today, very good.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:07:46pm |
re: #65 Bear
OT Anyone remember about December 7, 1941?
A day which will live in infamy.
Like Nov 22, 1963 and of course Sep 11, 2001. Days we’ll never forget, even if we weren’t around at the time.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:07:59pm |
re: #66 reine.de.tout
it was good to see the interveiws with the guys who were there
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darthstar Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:08:19pm |
Rest in peace, Elizabeth. You exhibited grace under tremendous pressure, and your children will always benefit from your example.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:08:19pm |
re: #65 Bear
OT Anyone remember about December 7, 1941?
“World at War” marathon did. Started off with the Hiroshima episode.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:09:00pm |
re: #68 Boondock St. Bender
it was good to see the interveiws with the guys who were there
Yes, I quite enjoyed it.
Fewer and fewer of those guys around every year, isn’t it wonderful how these interviews are being captured on film?
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Lidane Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:10:39pm |
re: #32 JasonA
I think the most disrespectful thing we can do to Elizabeth Edwards right now is make this all about him.
Agreed. I can’t bring myself to give a damn about John Edwards. He’s an ass and always will be. Screw him.
Elizabeth Edwards, on the other hand, was a model of grace and dignity, and she was a hell of a sharp mind to boot. Beautiful and a very kind woman. She will be missed. :(
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:12:37pm |
re: #66 reine.de.tout
I did!
Watched History Channel Pearl Harbor show today, very good.
Wait the History channel still does Hitler stuff? I thought they were all pawn stars, top shot, and other reality show bupkiss….
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:13:16pm |
re: #58 reine.de.tout
The difference between Edwards and all the others you mention - the baby. And Edwards denied, denied, denied - what an awful thing for that child to have to grow up with, IMO. I’m sure she’ll grow up to be just fine, most of us get over whatever traumas we suffer - but his denials were for the purpose of preserving his own personal power, and he had no feeling or intention for doing what was in the best interests of that child, as far as I could determine from his actions, until he was forced to. And then the whole thing with his friend, making his friend claim HE had the affair and the baby was HIS, not Edwards’ - the whole thing stunk and was just classless.
And I think this is why Edwards will have a tougher time resurrecting his career.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:14:27pm |
re: #73 Lidane
Agreed. I can’t bring myself to give a damn about John Edwards. He’s an ass and always will be. Screw him.
Elizabeth Edwards, on the other hand, was a model of grace and dignity, and she was a hell of a sharp mind to boot. Beautiful and a very kind woman. She will be missed. :(
I agree.
RIP Elizabeth, and yes, a model of grace and dignity.
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Bear Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:14:38pm |
I was 15 then and remember the weather in the fog belt of San Francisco was warm and sunny. My folks were working in the yard and apal and I were out playing near the cabbage fields so the family did not hear the news until late afternoon when a neighbor told them of the attack.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:15:04pm |
re: #74 jamesfirecat
Wait the History channel still does Hitler stuff? I thought they were all pawn stars, top shot, and other reality show bupkiss…
gotta watch during the day.
They’ve got the good stuff on during the day for all us old retired folks.
*snicker*
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:15:48pm |
re: #74 jamesfirecat
Wait the History channel still does Hitler stuff? I thought they were all pawn stars, top shot, and other reality show bupkiss…
And on that note, the dude from Pawn Stars just said recently that they have an actual Senate seat for sale. I have my Aunt in Las Vegas on it.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:16:28pm |
re: #79 Stanley Sea
And on that note, the dude from Pawn Stars just said recently that they have an actual Senate seat for sale. I have my Aunt in Las Vegas on it.
A Senate seat or a Senate ass?
Oh, nevah mind . . .
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:17:17pm |
re: #80 reine.de.tout
there’s an ass for every seat!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:18:53pm |
re: #75 palomino
And I think this is why Edwards will have a tougher time resurrecting his career.
eh, he’s a lawyer, he’s got skills, he may not have a political career anymore, but whatever
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:19:11pm |
re: #81 Boondock St. Bender
there’s an ass for every seat!
but not a seat for ever ass… many are called.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:20:13pm |
re: #79 Stanley Sea
And on that note, the dude from Pawn Stars just said recently that they have an actual Senate seat for sale. I have my Aunt in Las Vegas on it.
wtf? all senate seats are for sale…
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:20:49pm |
Aw geeze, I would LOVE to have that in my house. Bitterness aside.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:22:55pm |
re: #82 WindUpBird
eh, he’s a lawyer, he’s got skills, he may not have a political career anymore, but whatever
Oh, I wouldn’t worry about him financially. But his public resurrection is a much bigger challenge than even for most disgraced pols.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:27:11pm |
re: #85 Stanley Sea
Aw geeze, I would LOVE to have that in my house. Bitterness aside.
Well, GO FOR IT!
Seriously, if you would really like to have it and it would mean something to you to have it then GO FOR IT.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:27:58pm |
re: #87 reine.de.tout
Well, GO FOR IT!
Seriously, if you would really like to have it and it would mean something to you to have it then GO FOR IT.
And I think it would be a pretty cool thing to have
GO FOR IT.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:28:48pm |
huh? first a tax break & now this?
reuters.com
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:32:02pm |
re: #87 reine.de.tout
Well, GO FOR IT!
Seriously, if you would really like to have it and it would mean something to you to have it then GO FOR IT.
Aunt Joan is on it.
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:33:11pm |
re: #89 brookly red
huh? first a tax break & now this?
[Link: www.reuters.com…]
Ah, you’re back to being a Democrat now? hahaha
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:34:38pm |
re: #91 Stanley Sea
Ah, you’re back to being a Democrat now? hahaha
I tell you something is going on here…
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:36:16pm |
ezraklein (tweet)
Edwards’ push to emphasize health care in her husband’s campaign forced the other campaigns to do the same, and is part of why it passed.’
Yeah. What could have been with Elizabeth Edwards.
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sagehen Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:38:14pm |
re: #86 palomino
Oh, I wouldn’t worry about him financially. But his public resurrection is a much bigger challenge than even for most disgraced pols.
He needs to go join Sean Penn in Haiti — spend a year or two or three doing something genuinely useful, in uncomfortable conditions.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:38:31pm |
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:38:46pm |
re: #93 Stanley Sea
ezraklein (tweet)
Edwards’ push to emphasize health care in her husband’s campaign forced the other campaigns to do the same, and is part of why it passed.’
Yeah. What could have been with Elizabeth Edwards.
I could have voted for her… for him never, never, never.
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austin_blue Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:39:22pm |
Condolences to her family. Horrible thing for her kids on top of everything else that has turned their lives upside down. It’s a rotten shame.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:40:43pm |
re: #25 palomino
As a partisan Dem, I can’t help but think: if this ruined John Edwards’ career, as it should have, why is Gingrich (with a very similar history, worse in some ways) on the short list of GOP contenders?
Republican here. He’s not on my short list, and never will be.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:44:22pm |
My prayers are with her children, who are too young to lose their mother like this.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:49:31pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
Hmmm…thinking more…shouldn’t have posted about Gingrich in an RIP column. Sorry about that.
He’s just a sore spot of mine that I react to.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Dec 7, 2010 6:51:48pm |
Ann Romney posted a statement praising and mourning Elizabeth Edwards.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:00:14pm |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
gotta watch during the day.
They’ve got the good stuff on during the day for all us old retired folks.
*snicker*
Really?
I have tivo and I still can’t find anything worth recording on, all the good programming seems to be on the “Hitler and Civil War Military History Channel”
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:05:08pm |
re: #101 EmmmieG
Ann Romney posted a statement praising and mourning Elizabeth Edwards.
The Romneys are good people. If Mitt Romney wins the GOP nomination in 2012 and things remain as they are with the economy I’ll probably vote for him.
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What, me worry? Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:10:17pm |
re: #103 Gus 802
The Romneys are good people. If Mitt Romney wins the GOP nomination in 2012 and things remain as they are with the economy I’ll probably vote for him.
I agree. One can hardly imagine anyone taking shots at their family now. Will see if it’s beyond Ann Coulter.
And about John. I can’t believe he didn’t love her. She is the mother of his children after all and he’s all those kids have now. For their sake, I hope he doesn’t get run through again. They don’t need that.
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Max Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:15:48pm |
Presenting the future USS Arlington, built to commemorate the victims aboard Flight 77 in the 9/11 attacks.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:15:54pm |
re: #103 Gus 802
The Romneys are good people. If Mitt Romney wins the GOP nomination in 2012 and things remain as they are with the economy I’ll probably vote for him.
Well Mitt still has another year to possibly beclown himself in the search for the Tea Party support, lets wait and see what happens…
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:17:19pm |
re: #103 Gus 802
The Romneys are good people. If Mitt Romney wins the GOP nomination in 2012 and things remain as they are with the economy I’ll probably vote for him.
Romney is palatable because he’s pragmatic, not a fire breather. But given that, and his record in MA (pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-gun control, pro-the original Obamacare), how does he get the GOP nod?
Of course he’s flip flopped on all these issues in the hopes of getting the nomination, but will that be enough to convince a party base that thought McCain was a liberal?
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Interesting Times Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:19:17pm |
re: #106 jamesfirecat
Well Mitt still has another year to possibly beclown himself in the search for the Tea Party support, lets wait and see what happens…
Mitt can haz caption for this picture? :)
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Four More Tears Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:20:20pm |
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:21:44pm |
re: #107 palomino
Romney is palatable because he’s pragmatic, not a fire breather. But given that, and his record in MA (pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-gun control, pro-the original Obamacare), how does he get the GOP nod?
Of course he’s flip flopped on all these issues in the hopes of getting the nomination, but will that be enough to convince a party base that thought McCain was a liberal?
He doesn’t and in fact no one in his generation will… why, oh why cause CNN says he is a contender do you even listen? Let me say this again, new & shiny…
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:21:54pm |
re: #108 publicityStunted
Mitt can haz caption for this picture? :)
Wow under drinks it says “American Steamer”…
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engineer cat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:22:15pm |
mitt’s perpetual smile might tend to wear a bit thin in the long run
what dya suppose his response will be to “what will you do about the fact that it’s 2012 and unemployment is still over 8%?”
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:22:56pm |
re: #110 brookly red
He doesn’t and in fact no one in his generation will… why, oh why cause CNN says he is a contender do you even listen? Let me say this again, new & shiny…
Wake me when we find out who exactly the GOP finds it new great white (or possibly some other color but I wouldn’t bet on it) hope…
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:23:10pm |
Always liked her. She was a very admirable person and a wonderful mother. I feel bad for her kids especially her two youngest for losing their mother at such a young age.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:23:17pm |
re: #112 engineer dog
mitt’s perpetual smile might tend to wear a bit thin in the long run
what dya suppose his response will be to “what will you do about the fact that it’s 2012 and unemployment is still over 8%?”
TAX CUTTTSSSSSS!
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:24:22pm |
re: #113 jamesfirecat
Wake me when we find out who exactly the GOP finds it new great white (or possibly some other color but I wouldn’t bet on it) hope…
well I don’t think it is within my power to wake you, but let’s see where we are in say a year from now?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:25:31pm |
re: #116 brookly red
well I don’t think it is within my power to wake you, but let’s see where we are in say a year from now?
I give it more like six months honestly but we’ll wait and see as before…
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:26:05pm |
Romney? I think the Republicans will nominate someone with a more populist style. You can’t act like Obama is this elitist and then run the poster child for establisthment elite. And I don’t think he’ll win the nomination. Unfortunately for him, his religion has and will be used against him which is wrong but I can totally see it happening again.
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engineer cat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:26:34pm |
re: #110 brookly red
He doesn’t and in fact no one in his generation will… why, oh why cause CNN says he is a contender do you even listen? Let me say this again, new & shiny…
when has the GOP ever nominated “new and shiny”?
if anything, they’ve always nominated “he waited patiently and now it’s his turn”
the last time they failed to do that was goldwater
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:28:03pm |
re: #117 jamesfirecat
I give it more like six months honestly but we’ll wait and see as before…
think about the phrase “fighting the last war” and now substitute the word election for the word war… everything is different now.
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danhenry1 Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:28:47pm |
Thank you Elizabeth…
Maybe it is only fitting, and a bit corny on my part..
There are many hero’s on this day that will be with you forever.
Remember the 7th of December.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:29:18pm |
re: #113 jamesfirecat
Wake me when we find out who exactly the GOP finds it new great white (or possibly some other color but I wouldn’t bet on it) hope…
Bobby Jindal isn’t white.
Now I don’t like Bobby. But it’s got nothing to do with him not being white, and everything to do with him being an awful governor.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:34:09pm |
re: #122 reine.de.tout
Bobby Jindal isn’t white.
Now I don’t like Bobby. But it’s got nothing to do with him not being white, and everything to do with him being an awful governor.
Do you see today’s modern GOP base selecting a non white person to run for president against Barack Obama?
Here are the top four non white GOP people I can think of..
1: Condi Rice who doesn’t even strike me as close to running
2: Colon Powell, same as above.
3: Bobbi Jindal who blew his shot after his horrible performance trying to respond to Obama….
4: Micheal Steele….. yeah…
Assuming whoever runs will at least be holding or have held some important political position before hand who does that leave us with?
Well Marco Rubio also, but hell Obama was elected four years before he ran and I don’t think the people of Flordia would be happy with him using them as a springboard that obviously.
As Sherlock Homes would say, once you eliminate the impossible….
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:34:55pm |
re: #122 reine.de.tout
Bobby Jindal isn’t white.
Now I don’t like Bobby. But it’s got nothing to do with him not being white, and everything to do with him being an awful governor.
know just imagine if I had said that about someone else…
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:35:14pm |
re: #110 brookly red
He doesn’t and in fact no one in his generation will… why, oh why cause CNN says he is a contender do you even listen? Let me say this again, new & shiny…
I’m not saying he’s a contender b/c of CNN; I hate them even more than Fox because they have no spine. I’m saying it because he polls well right now. And because the gop establishment likes him. And because he came in second in 2008 primaries, and the GOP has a long history of rewarding the next guy in place. And because he has presidential hair.
The shiny new object you’re promoting must have a name. If it’s Pawlenty, Pence, Barbour, Jindal or Daniels, think again. They may be new, but there’s nothing shiny about any of those guys.
Maybe you’re thinking of Christie, Rubio or McDonnell. They make more sense, but these guys are all as untested as Obama when he first ran. If Obama’s vulnerable, his relative youth and inexperience will be a factor. Will the country want to turn to someone even younger and less experienced? Also, none of these last three have a campaign operation in place, which Obama and Hillary and Edwards and McCain and of course Romney all had at this point in the game before 2008.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:36:30pm |
re: #119 engineer dog
when has the GOP ever nominated “new and shiny”?
if anything, they’ve always nominated “he waited patiently and now it’s his turn”
the last time they failed to do that was goldwater
Yes indeed. There’s a reason the old saying goes: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:38:05pm |
R.I.P. Elizabeth.
I’ve seen cancer rip very strong families apart. Her family is not alone.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:38:12pm |
re: #127 palomino
I’m not saying he’s a contender b/c of CNN; I hate them even more than Fox because they have no spine. I’m saying it because he polls well right now. And because the gop establishment likes him. And because he came in second in 2008 primaries, and the GOP has a long history of rewarding the next guy in place. And because he has presidential hair.
The shiny new object you’re promoting must have a name. If it’s Pawlenty, Pence, Barbour, Jindal or Daniels, think again. They may be new, but there’s nothing shiny about any of those guys.
Maybe you’re thinking of Christie, Rubio or McDonnell. They make more sense, but these guys are all as untested as Obama when he first ran. If Obama’s vulnerable, his relative youth and inexperience will be a factor. Will the country want to turn to someone even younger and less experienced? Also, none of these last three have a campaign operation in place, which Obama and Hillary and Edwards and McCain and of course Romney all had at this point in the game before 2008.
he polls well because he is offered on the poll… as opposed to newt, or mc cain or palin.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:39:34pm |
elizabeth edwards showed gave all of us a lesson in strength and dignity under very trying times. she deserved better, and she gave the world way more than it deserves.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:39:46pm |
I think the Republican candidate will be Huckabee at this point. Could well be wrong but I just see him establishing a lot of momentum in the early primary/caucus states. Don’t know though. Honestly, I didn’t see McCain having a chance in the 2008 GOP primary after he upset alot in the base with his immigration bill support.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:40:09pm |
re: #124 jamesfirecat
Do you see today’s modern GOP base selecting a non white person to run for president against Barack Obama?
Here are the top four non white GOP people I can think of..
1: Condi Rice who doesn’t even strike me as close to running
2: Colon Powell, same as above.
3: Bobbi Jindal who blew his shot after his horrible performance trying to respond to Obama…
4: Micheal Steele… yeah…
Assuming whoever runs will at least be holding or have held some important political position before hand who does that leave us with?
Well Marco Rubio also, but hell Obama was elected four years before he ran and I don’t think the people of Flordia would be happy with him using them as a springboard that obviously.
As Sherlock Homes would say, once you eliminate the impossible…
Also just to be clear when I said “Do you see today’s modern GOP base selecting a non white person to run for president against Barack Obama?” I was not trying to imply that all or most of todays’ modern GOP were racist.
I was trying to lead into my argument that there’s no non white candidate with a chance of beating Obama interested in running on their side at the moment….
Unless I’ve forgotten someone of course…
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:40:16pm |
re: #128 palomino
Yes indeed. There’s a reason the old saying goes: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.
well right now it seems that a lot of Democrats are falling out of love… if they fall in line remains to be seen.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:40:55pm |
re: #134 brookly red
well right now it seems that a lot of Democrats are falling out of love… if they fall in line remains to be seen.
I’m not a member of an organized political party, I’m a democrat.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:40:58pm |
re: #124 jamesfirecat
Do you see today’s modern GOP base selecting a non white person to run for president against Barack Obama?
Here are the top four non white GOP people I can think of..
1: Condi Rice who doesn’t even strike me as close to running
2: Colon Powell, same as above.
3: Bobbi Jindal who blew his shot after his horrible performance trying to respond to Obama…
4: Micheal Steele… yeah…
Assuming whoever runs will at least be holding or have held some important political position before hand who does that leave us with?
Well Marco Rubio also, but hell Obama was elected four years before he ran and I don’t think the people of Flordia would be happy with him using them as a springboard that obviously.
As Sherlock Homes would say, once you eliminate the impossible…
Powell blew any chance in the gop when he endorsed Obama, and he’s a social liberal anyway. Condi is too reserved, intellectual, not “I feel your pain” enough to be a strong candidate. Also she was in the Bush admin. for 8 years. The GOP figured out in 2009 how to fix their brand—pretend like Bush and Cheney never existed. That would be very hard in her case.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:42:56pm |
re: #130 brookly red
he polls well because he is offered on the poll… as opposed to newt, or mc cain or palin.
What? McCain is running again? Hasn’t that man already suffered enough for one lifetime?
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:44:36pm |
re: #137 palomino
What? McCain is running again? Hasn’t that man already suffered enough for one lifetime?
I am just trying to figure out why people are so concerned with the next election when they have not even come to grips with the last one yet…
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:44:47pm |
re: #136 palomino
Powell blew any chance in the gop when he endorsed Obama, and he’s a social liberal anyway. Condi is too reserved, intellectual, not “I feel your pain” enough to be a strong candidate. Also she was in the Bush admin. for 8 years. The GOP figured out in 2009 how to fix their brand—pretend like Bush and Cheney never existed. That would be very hard in her case.
No chance Powell gets nominated. I think it was small when people used to speculate about it in the 90’s and I think it’s even smaller now even if he hadn’t endorsed Obama. Agree about Rice. Plus, the GOP’s big critique on Obama has been his domestic policies. I am not calling Rice an idiot but she’s a foreign affairs expert primarily. And honestly the days of using the secretary of state position to springboard to the presidency are long gone.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:46:14pm |
re: #134 brookly red
well right now it seems that a lot of Democrats are falling out of love… if they fall in line remains to be seen.
It also seemed that way in 1994 and 95, when Clinton was moving to the center. Liberals were outraged and threatened all kinds of mayhem, none of which materialized. Just getting DADT passed, even by executive order, will make half the currently howling liberals cease and desist.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:47:35pm |
re: #138 brookly red
I am just trying to figure out why people are so concerned with the next election when they have not even come to grips with the last one yet…
Because it’s showtime: big media, big money, lots of glitz and second rate glamor.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:47:45pm |
What? The GOP aren’t pulling out their Young Guns yet?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:48:24pm |
re: #139 HappyWarrior
I am not calling Rice an idiot but she’s a foreign affairs expert primarily. And honestly the days of using the secretary of state position to springboard to the presidency are long gone.
Don’t tell that to Hillary.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:48:46pm |
re: #140 palomino
It also seemed that way in 1994 and 95, when Clinton was moving to the center. Liberals were outraged and threatened all kinds of mayhem, none of which materialized. Just getting DADT passed, even by executive order, will make half the currently howling liberals cease and desist.
yes. I am still waiting for all of those who said they would leave the country if Bush was elected to do so.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:49:23pm |
re: #141 palomino
Because it’s showtime: big media, big money, lots of glitz and second rate glamor.
on this we can agree
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:49:51pm |
re: #140 palomino
It also seemed that way in 1994 and 95, when Clinton was moving to the center. Liberals were outraged and threatened all kinds of mayhem, none of which materialized. Just getting DADT passed, even by executive order, will make half the currently howling liberals cease and desist.
it’s as stupid to talk about liberals not supporting Obama in 2012 as it was to think that Hilary supporters would vote for McCain in droves in 2008. both were silly notions.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:50:43pm |
re: #143 palomino
Don’t tell that to Hillary.
Ha, good point but I guess my point is that Rice has never run for office before. I mean we don’t even really know where Rice stands on basic domestic positions. We do with Hillary by virtue of her being a former senator and presidential contender. Rice is a smart woman but I just don’t see her as presidential material. Perhaps VP if the Bush brand name gets more popujlar in the GOP base again.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:52:08pm |
re: #144 brookly red
yes. I am still waiting for all of those who said they would leave the country if Bush was elected to do so.
Why would they leave NOW?
Seriously, most people aren’t really in a position to do so. But some did—look at Johnny Depp. Couldn’t stand America under Bush, so he lived in France. He’s just as far left as Sean Penn, but he manages it more tactfully.
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:52:10pm |
re: #134 brookly red
well right now it seems that a lot of Democrats are falling out of love… if they fall in line remains to be seen.
Oh, sage, please tell us more.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:53:40pm |
re: #145 brookly red
on this we can agree
talking more about policy doesn’t get the bright shiny object crowd tuned in. And the media loves horse races. The campaigns are like a sporting event, except that it matters.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:54:24pm |
re: #142 Amory Blaine
What? The GOP aren’t pulling out their Young Guns yet?
Wasn’t Mr. Dress as a nazi one of them, and wasn’t he in his 50’s?
That’s the kind of situation you normally can’t find outside of a (bad) Monty Python sketch….
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:54:38pm |
re: #149 Stanley Sea
Oh, sage, please tell us more.
uhh, well OK… the Dems just lost the House. Big time. Both sides are looking at why… and shit happens.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:55:29pm |
re: #150 palomino
talking more about policy doesn’t get the bright shiny object crowd tuned in. And the media loves horse races. The campaigns are like a sporting event, except that it matters.
the media… oh are they still here?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:56:32pm |
re: #152 brookly red
uhh, well OK… the Dems just lost the House. Big time. Both sides are looking at why… and shit happens.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:56:49pm |
re: #146 cliffster
it’s as stupid to talk about liberals not supporting Obama in 2012 as it was to think that Hilary supporters would vote for McCain in droves in 2008. both were silly notions.
Equally silly is the speculation I’ve heard recently that Romney supporters would vote Dem if one of the farther right GOP candidates gets the nod. A few might stay home, a few might vote Dem. But the vast majority of Romney supporters aren’t Susan Collins RINOs, thinking about bolting the party someday.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:56:51pm |
re: #151 jamesfirecat
Wasn’t Mr. Dress as a nazi one of them, and wasn’t he in his 50’s?
That’s the kind of situation you normally can’t find outside of a (bad) Monty Python sketch…
LOL. Your group’s a little long in the tooth if 50 yo members are the young guns.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:59:17pm |
re: #147 HappyWarrior
Ha, good point but I guess my point is that Rice has never run for office before. I mean we don’t even really know where Rice stands on basic domestic positions. We do with Hillary by virtue of her being a former senator and presidential contender. Rice is a smart woman but I just don’t see her as presidential material. Perhaps VP if the Bush brand name gets more popujlar in the GOP base again.
True, running for prez as the first political campaign of your life? Hasn’t been done successfully since Eisenhower, and he was a unique case.
Winning a world war can make up for lack of electoral political experience, but it’s not something many folks can put on their resumes.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:00:51pm |
re: #153 brookly red
the media… oh are they still here?
Yeah, they just look different than in the old days. The interwebs have changed everything.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:02:25pm |
re: #113 jamesfirecat
Wake me when we find out who exactly the GOP finds it new great white (or possibly some other color but I wouldn’t bet on it) hope…
I used to have such high hopes for Condi.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:02:45pm |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:03:17pm |
re: #158 palomino
True, running for prez as the first political campaign of your life? Hasn’t been done successfully since Eisenhower, and he was a unique case.
Winning a world war can make up for lack of electoral political experience, but it’s not something many folks can put on their resumes.
Well yeah and how often these days do you see a guy heavily recruited to run by both parties like Ike was. There were many prominent Democrats including FDR’s sons who wanted to replace Truman with Ike in 1948.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:03:32pm |
re: #159 palomino
Yeah, they just look different than in the old days. The interwebs have changed everything.
well yes the interwebs did change everything & no they don’t look different. same old bullshit & people still watch it… less people every day thank God, but really who cares what they say?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:03:46pm |
re: #161 Alouette
I used to have such high hopes for Condi.
She had 8 pretty good years in the Bush Administration. But that’s not exactly a resume builder these days.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:04:33pm |
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:04:35pm |
re: #158 palomino
True, running for prez as the first political campaign of your life? Hasn’t been done successfully since Eisenhower, and he was a unique case.
Winning a world war can make up for lack of electoral political experience, but it’s not something many folks can put on their resumes.
Ike was not unique. U.S. Grant was there before him. Great war hero, meh president.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:05:14pm |
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:05:26pm |
re: #164 brookly red
well yes the interwebs did change everything & no they don’t look different. same old bullshit & people still watch it… less people every day thank God, but really who cares what they say?
Less people watching dumbass TV shows just means more people looking at dumbass websites. The mode of delivery changes, but the message not so much.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:06:48pm |
re: #165 palomino
She had 8 pretty good years in the Bush Administration. But that’s not exactly a resume builder these days.
True. I think it’s going to be a very long time before we see a Republican Sec of State make a viable run for president. One of the things that always struck me odd about the old Conservative LGF was how much disdain conservatives have for diplomacy in general. They thought the State Dept was some sort of leftist organization with its own agenda.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:07:07pm |
re: #166 brookly red
is that on the public access channel?
The Ojoe Show has no scheduled time. It just pops up occasionally with no apparent purpose and then poof.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:07:53pm |
re: #169 palomino
Less people watching dumbass TV shows just means more people looking at dumbass websites. The mode of delivery changes, but the message not so much.
you make a good point… I will speak well of you to the commissar.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:08:21pm |
re: #167 Alouette
Ike was not unique. U.S. Grant was there before him. Great war hero, meh president.
Terrible prez, a corrupt drunk.
Unique doesn’t have to mean one of a kind, just quite rare. But point taken.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:08:32pm |
re: #172 brookly red
you make a good point… I will speak well of you to the commissar.
You best hope he does, otherwise, he’s going to execute you for heresy….
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:08:48pm |
re: #171 palomino
The Ojoe Show has no scheduled time. It just pops up occasionally with no apparent purpose and then poof.
Outlaw media? fuckin A!
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:09:33pm |
re: #172 brookly red
you make a good point… I will speak well of you to the commissar.
he already knows everything about me…he saw the wikileaks dump.
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:10:40pm |
re: #170 Killgore Trout
True. I think it’s going to be a very long time before we see a Republican Sec of State make a viable run for president. One of the things that always struck me odd about the old Conservative LGF was how much disdain conservatives have for diplomacy in general. They thought the State Dept was some sort of leftist organization with its own agenda.
War? Yeah! Diplomacy? For losers. That’s how I read it. So far from the real world. And their kids weren’t involved.
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Four More Tears Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:12:06pm |
re: #173 palomino
Terrible prez, a corrupt drunk.
Unique doesn’t have to mean one of a kind, just quite rare. But point taken.
No, “unique” really does mean one of a kind.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:12:12pm |
re: #167 Alouette
Ike was not unique. U.S. Grant was there before him. Great war hero, meh president.
Well again he was the hero of Appamatox. Now in the 19th century we nominated quite a few generals who became president. Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison (though he had experience as a territorial governor), Zachary Taylor.
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Four More Tears Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:12:20pm |
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:13:08pm |
re: #176 palomino
he already knows everything about me…he saw the wikileaks dump.
well OK, let me put it this way. When you hear the buzzing sound, try not to be standing next to firecat…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:13:28pm |
re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote
This is tragic. I will never forgive her husband.
Oh, gosh. I just got in and saw this.
It’s a shame that I can’t think of her without him.
She was much better.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:15:21pm |
re: #170 Killgore Trout
True. I think it’s going to be a very long time before we see a Republican Sec of State make a viable run for president. One of the things that always struck me odd about the old Conservative LGF was how much disdain conservatives have for diplomacy in general. They thought the State Dept was some sort of leftist organization with its own agenda.
There was a belief that many career State Dept employees were liberals, who were running amok with their own agenda.
Now I’ve worked for gov’t, and career employees run the gamut of political ideology. However, we weren’t supposed to bring into work with us, and I think it would have been damned hard for a career employee to overrule an agency head.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:16:32pm |
re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
you a lot of times say the same shit I was thinking, and you say it pretty good.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:16:54pm |
re: #183 reine.de.tout
There was a belief that many career State Dept employees were liberals, who were running amok with their own agenda.
Now I’ve worked for gov’t, and career employees run the gamut of political ideology. However, we weren’t supposed to bring into work with us, and I think it would have been damned hard for a career employee to overrule an agency head.
which brings us back to the subject of “leaks”
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:19:33pm |
re: #171 palomino
The Ojoe Show has no scheduled time. It just pops up occasionally with no apparent purpose and then poof.
Wait, wait I got the Ojoe show coming in on the CB and it is re…
shit. It’s just Art Bell. Nevermind.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:20:07pm |
re: #178 JasonA
No, “unique” really does mean one of a kind.
You are mistaken, but not uniquely mistaken, as this particular mistake is quite common. See definition #5.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:21:23pm |
re: #181 brookly red
well OK, let me put it this way. When you hear the buzzing sound, try not to be standing next to firecat…
When I hear the buzzing sound? It almost never stops.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:22:40pm |
re: #187 palomino
somewhat uniquely mistaken. I think it’s very common for people to know what unique means.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:23:25pm |
re: #188 palomino
When I hear the buzzing sound? It almost never stops.
really? do you ever hear faint voices speaking Latin? I hate that shit.
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Four More Tears Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:23:52pm |
re: #187 palomino
You are mistaken, but not uniquely mistaken, as this particular mistake is quite common. See definition #5.
Well if you have to dig all the way down to #5…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:24:03pm |
re: #189 cliffster
somewhat uniquely mistaken. I think it’s very common for people to know what unique means.
How do you catch a unique bird?
Unique up on it.
How do you catch a tame bird?
Tame way.
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tobariv Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:24:18pm |
RIP Elizabeth Edwards. Read her first book.She placed a note on her son’s casket that read “You Know”. She used the same words to express her gratitude to her supporters in her facebook message yesterday. To those of us battling breast cancer she has been a source of strength and validation. You know, Elizabeth.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:25:41pm |
re: #189 cliffster
somewhat uniquely mistaken. I think it’s very common for people to know what unique means.
unique? it means the pitbull got hold of you junk, no?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:26:05pm |
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:26:23pm |
re: #189 cliffster
somewhat uniquely mistaken. I think it’s very common for people to know what unique means.
You have a somewhat uncommonly, thought not uniquely, high opinion of your fellow man’s verbal skills.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:27:00pm |
re: #196 Walter L. Newton
What?
Oh you know the one I’m referring to. It’s the one about sexuality and the Fox News women.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:27:12pm |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Q: How do you catch a unique cat?
A: You don’t.. cats suck
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:27:32pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:28:57pm |
re: #144 brookly red
yes. I am still waiting for all of those who said they would leave the country if Bush was elected to do so.
They ain’t going nowhere. Neither are the guys who were talking big on LGF about how they would go to New Zealand if Obama won.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:29:08pm |
re: #192 JasonA
Well if you have to dig all the way down to #5…
I know I’m being pedantic. Can’t help myself, I’m a fucking teacher.
But the Usage Notes at the bottom of the definition page are interesting. At one point the word did only mean one of a kind. But the word, like many other things (just not human life) evolved over time.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:29:14pm |
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:30:15pm |
re: #204 brookly red
I used to like you… drone bait.
Yeah, well. I’ve always rejected orthodoxy and groupthink.
Calamity strikes again!
//
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:30:34pm |
re: #198 Gus 802
Oh you know the one I’m referring to. It’s the one about sexuality and the Fox News women.
Nope… didn’t see it… I was out to the gym a few hours ago.
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HoosierHoops Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:30:37pm |
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:31:22pm |
re: #206 Walter L. Newton
Nope… didn’t see it… I was out to the gym a few hours ago.
You dinged it down. You must have seen it.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:31:42pm |
re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist
They ain’t going nowhere. Neither are the guys who were talking big on LGF about how they would go to New Zealand if Obama won.
that was Costa Rica… and the weather is very nice here
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:35:09pm |
re: #209 brookly red
that was Costa Rica… and the weather is very nice here
I said I would move to Colorado if he won.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:35:56pm |
my wife has requested that I go out in search of taco bell, as our light dinner has failed to satisfy. as a man it’s my duty to “bring home the burrito”, as they say. (at least in south texas they do)
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:37:24pm |
re: #211 cliffster
my wife has requested that I go out in search of taco bell, as our light dinner has failed to satisfy. as a man it’s my duty to “bring home the burrito”, as they say. (at least in south texas they do)
I always have my burrito on me… for quick emergencies like that.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:38:17pm |
thou shalt always kill
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:38:43pm |
re: #210 Walter L. Newton
I said I would move to Colorado if he won.
much better… OY the gf shot the maid cause she said I was ‘looking” at her… so I shot the pool boy (even though I knew he was gay) and so now the cook quit… now I can’t get dinner. damn.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:39:01pm |
re: #212 Walter L. Newton
I always have my burrito on me… for quick emergencies like that.
bring home the burrito as in “bring home the bacon”. you dirty man
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:39:16pm |
re: #161 Alouette
I used to have such high hopes for Condi.
What Bush did to mcCain regarding his adopted daughter? Will be done fivefold to Condi by her GOP primary opponents if she ran. I’m sure she knows this, and she seems WAY too smart to subject herself to that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:39:37pm |
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:39:38pm |
re: #215 cliffster
bring home the burrito as in “bring home the bacon”. you dirty man
Hard shell tacos.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:40:46pm |
re: #210 Walter L. Newton
I said I would move to Colorado if he won.
And you did!
Actually, as I occasionally mention, I do know one liberal who moved to Canada, but that was because he left my college BFF for some chick in Toronto.
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engineer cat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:44:30pm |
re: #211 cliffster
i like taco bell, but then on the other hand sometimes i want to eat mexican food
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:44:43pm |
re: #211 cliffster
my wife has requested that I go out in search of taco bell, as our light dinner has failed to satisfy. as a man it’s my duty to “bring home the burrito”, as they say. (at least in south texas they do)
WTF? You should be ashamed. What part of south Texas doesn’t have far better Tex-Mex than Taco Bell? Are you fucking kidding me? Only children, drunks and Mexican food neophytes go to Taco Bell. You’re surrounded by the best Tex-Mex in the world and you’re going to Taco Bell!
Someone get a rope.
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:45:38pm |
re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist
They ain’t going nowhere. Neither are the guys who were talking big on LGF about how they would go to New Zealand if Obama won.
I’m sure they really meant it, but were scared off by all of the Orcs.
(And I enter with a cheap and generally unfunny LotR joke)
Evening everyone.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:45:54pm |
re: #221 palomino
WTF? You should be ashamed. What part of south Texas doesn’t have far better Tex-Mex than Taco Bell? Are you fucking kidding me? Only children, drunks and Mexican food neophytes go to Taco Bell. You’re surrounded by the best Tex-Mex in the world and you’re going to Taco Bell!
Someone get a rope.
now you know how I feel about Pizza Hut.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:46:05pm |
re: #221 palomino
Taco bell drive through is great. You’re being a bit elitist.
Now. Excuse me while I grab another Coors Light.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:47:13pm |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:48:07pm |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I get it. You find someone drinking a good beer, and then hit them with the Coors Light and steal their beer.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:48:50pm |
re: #223 brookly red
now you know how I feel about Pizza Hut.
If you live in NYC, the only reason to be in a Pizza Hut is having to take a whizz at 1 a.m. when everything else on the block is closed.
I grew up in Houston in the 70s. We liked PH because we didn’t know better. Then I moved to Boston, NYC and finally LA. Now I know better.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:49:08pm |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Taco bell drive through is great. You’re being a bit elitist.
Now. Excuse me while I grab another Coors Light.
Ooh, ooh I went to a drive through once… it was kinda cool
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:49:14pm |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Taco Bell is bad beer is bad chain pizza, it’s certainly fine sometimes, certainly if offered (free beer is good beer!), but I’m not going out of my way for it :D
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prairiefire Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:49:20pm |
re: #226 Obdicut
I get it. You find someone drinking a good beer, and then hit them with the Coors Light and steal their beer.
I believe we used to call Coors light “piss water”, back in the day. No offense, FBV.
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:49:39pm |
re: #223 brookly red
now you know how I feel about Pizza Hut.
Reminds of the year I lived in the Southwest.
Me: You want to get pizza?
GF: Yeah. There are three places. Papa Johns, Dominos and Pizza Hut.
Me: *vomits a little*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:50:03pm |
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:50:09pm |
re: #227 palomino
If you live in NYC, the only reason to be in a Pizza Hut is having to take a whizz at 1 a.m. when everything else on the block is closed.
I grew up in Houston in the 70s. We liked PH because we didn’t know better. Then I moved to Boston, NYC and finally LA. Now I know better.
your faith as made you whole.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:50:51pm |
re: #231 Soap_Man
definitely pick the Papa Johns! We have a lot of local California-style (sorry, i can’t do the NY style pizza, ick) indie places that deliver here, there’s no reason for a chain since the wicked locals deliver faster with better service
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:51:06pm |
re: #230 prairiefire
I believe we used to call Coors light “piss water”, back in the day. No offense, FBV.
But… but… other kinds get me drunk!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:51:29pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don’t you sleep?
You’re like a lib Sharmuta.
I think I was up until 7am last night playing guitar, sleep is for humans
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:51:57pm |
re: #170 Killgore Trout
they get off on the whole american exeptionalism thing.why treat other nations as equals when they should bow and scrape
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theheat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:52:15pm |
re: #130 brookly red
McCain is a thousand years old and looks every minute of it. No matter who he runs with, voters are voting for McCain’s VP pick as POTUS, because McCain has so few years ahead of him.
After his Palin pick, and his constant waffling to keep his butt in a political seat, I refuse to vote for him. There’s nothing mavericky about him. He’s just a lifetime politician.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:52:19pm |
re: #233 brookly red
your faith as made you whole.
I had a “pie” (really, no cool whip?) in Broolyn. I thought it sucked.
I’m just sayin’…
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prairiefire Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:52:26pm |
re: #236 WindUpBird
I think I was up until 7am last night playing guitar, sleep is for humans
“Yawn”. Night, lizards.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:52:32pm |
re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But… but… other kinds get me drunk!
come to oregon, we have some of the best 4.2%-ish beer you’ll ever have. (and some of the best 10% too)Also, there’s an amazing Utah brewery that does alcoholically weak beer, that’s immensely flavorful, I can’t remember the name
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:53:12pm |
re: #234 WindUpBird
definitely pick the Papa Johns! We have a lot of local California-style (sorry, i can’t do the NY style pizza, ick) indie places that deliver here, there’s no reason for a chain since the wicked locals deliver faster with better service
After some significant searching, I did find a small place ran by some Chicago transplants. The second I opened the box and saw the pizza cut in squares, I put their number in my speed-dial.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:53:40pm |
re: #231 Soap_Man
Reminds of the year I lived in the Southwest.
Me: You want to get pizza?
GF: Yeah. There are three places. Papa Johns, Dominos and Pizza Hut.
Me: *vomits a little*
you know if we could only save a few…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:53:48pm |
re: #242 Soap_Man
After some significant searching, I did find a small place ran by some Chicago transplants. The second I opened the box and saw the pizza cut in squares, I put their number in my speed-dial.
I know there’s a chicago style place here, haven’t tried it, I’m such a creature of habit *_*
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:54:20pm |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Taco bell drive through is great. You’re being a bit elitist.
Now. Excuse me while I grab another Coors Light.
Now this is truly unique: I’ve been accused of elitism a lot over the years, but never for my love of Tex-Mex.
South Texas is Mecca for this kind of food. Real food, not shrink wrapped taco perversions assembled by pimply teenagers.
My best analogy: would you choose to stay at Motel 6 when there was a Ritz-Carlton right next door and the prices were the same?
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:55:59pm |
re: #238 theheat
McCain is a thousand years old and looks every minute of it. No matter who he runs with, voters are voting for McCain’s VP pick as POTUS, because McCain has so few years ahead of him.
After his Palin pick, and his constant waffling to keep his butt in a political seat, I refuse to vote for him. There’s nothing mavericky about him. He’s just a lifetime politician.
over 100 posts old… we can not process your request.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:58:27pm |
re: #245 palomino
taco perversions… a great name for a band.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:59:16pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I sleep five hours a night. Always have.
Right now, I’m waiting for laundry to get done.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:59:52pm |
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 8:59:56pm |
re: #244 WindUpBird
I know there’s a chicago style place here, haven’t tried it, I’m such a creature of habit *_*
It depends on what kind of Chicago-style, deep dish or thin crust. Deep dish is what the tourists eat, thin crust is for the locals.
You should give it a shot (go for the thin crust if available.) Not all of these places are good though, even if they serve “Chicago style.” There are 15 pizza places that deliver to my apartment, and it’s 50/50 as far as quality. (That’s not an exaggeration, I looked it up on GrubHub. The amount of independent pizza places in this city is beyond absurd.)
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Lidane Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:00:04pm |
re: #124 jamesfirecat
Condi Rice — seems to have zero interest in higher office. I think she just wants a private life after all those years in the firing line.
Colin Powell — endorsed Obama. That alone kills him with the GOP base. He could be a staunch conservative and it wouldn’t matter at all.
Bobby Jindal — will forever be associated with his awful Kenneth the Page impression and mocking volcano monitoring. Plus, exorcisms. No way does he get nominated.
Micheal Steele — is exactly what happens when the GOP goes for a blatant race card vote. The country elected a black President, so they felt obligated to name a black RNC chairman. That hasn’t worked out so well.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:00:24pm |
re: #246 brookly red
over 100 posts old… we can not process your request.
Don’t you hate that? I mean I’ll be sitting here sometimes and someone will comment on something I said an hour ago and I’m thinking to myself a) I don’t care anymore and/or b) this sudden temptation to become enraged!
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:00:53pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:02:13pm |
re: #248 Obdicut
I sleep five hours a night. Always have.
Right now, I’m waiting for laundry to get done.
Oh, your parents fucking LOVED that when you were a baby.
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theheat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:02:26pm |
re: #246 brookly red
I already talked about Elizabeth Edwards’ passing. Would it be more appropriate to jump in this thread and talk about food at this juncture - maybe some fruity pizza or something?
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:03:26pm |
re: #252 Gus 802
Don’t you hate that? I mean I’ll be sitting here sometimes and someone will comment on something I said an hour ago and I’m thinking to myself a) I don’t care anymore and/or b) this sudden temptation to become enraged!
I don’t hate… I just reject. Sometimes with extreme prejudice.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:03:38pm |
re: #254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Once I learned how to read I wasn’t much of a hassle. I’d just stay up all night reading.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:04:49pm |
re: #256 brookly red
I don’t hate… I just reject. Sometimes with extreme prejudice.
Oh, right. Yeah, I hate.
BRB, time for my pineapple suppository.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:06:10pm |
re: #221 palomino
WTF? You should be ashamed. What part of south Texas doesn’t have far better Tex-Mex than Taco Bell? Are you fucking kidding me? Only children, drunks and Mexican food neophytes go to Taco Bell. You’re surrounded by the best Tex-Mex in the world and you’re going to Taco Bell!
Someone get a rope.
wait - don’t tie the noose yet. It’s 11pm in the suburbs. there’s no good restaurants open anywhere nearby.. it’s either taco bell or wendy’s.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:06:28pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:07:22pm |
re: #259 Gus 802
BRB, time for my pineapple suppository.
I’m thinking of Little Nicky… Adam Sandler… Hitler… Devil… Pineapple suppository.
I’ll giggle myself to sleep now.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:08:00pm |
re: #262 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m thinking of Little Nicky… Adam Sandler… Hitler… Devil… Pineapple suppository.
I’ll giggle myself to sleep now.
Glad to be of service. Later FBV.
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:08:01pm |
So, the lead story on HuffPo has multiple links, one about how the Tea Party “leaders” hate the tax compromise, and another about how the House Dems hate it.
You know, there is a saying, if partisans on the left and the right hate your proposal, you know you’re on to something.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:08:19pm |
re: #257 Obdicut
Once I learned how to read I wasn’t much of a hassle. I’d just stay up all night reading.
haha you and me both, I had a stack of Xanth books I just tore my way through
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:08:19pm |
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:09:02pm |
re: #253 brookly red
bless you child.
The only good thing about the LA riots of 1992 was that three Taco Bells and a Pizza Hut burned down.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:09:12pm |
re: #266 brookly red
dude, lighten up
That’s funny. I thought my saying pineapple suppository was a hint.
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sizzleRI Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:09:40pm |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I know you’re taking a shot at the Silver Bullet. But I love it. I got drunk at an open bar (damn Jamison, taste of mammal blood I swear) wedding this weekend and the last thing I remember is arguing about DADT and the wonder of Coors Light. I was way angrier at the disagreement about Coors Light.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:10:06pm |
re: #269 Gus 802
That’s funny. I thought my saying pineapple suppository was a hint.
don’t fucking joke about pineapples. not ever.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:10:10pm |
re: #260 cliffster
wait - don’t tie the noose yet. It’s 11pm in the suburbs. there’s no good restaurants open anywhere nearby.. it’s either taco bell or wendy’s.
Are you in San Antonio? Isn’t there at least a Taco Cabana around?
If not, then I retract my earlier wish that you get food poisoning.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:10:23pm |
re: #260 cliffster
wait - don’t tie the noose yet. It’s 11pm in the suburbs. there’s no good restaurants open anywhere nearby.. it’s either taco bell or wendy’s.
like a scene from monty python… blue, uh no green!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:10:40pm |
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:11:11pm |
re: #269 Gus 802
That’s funny. I thought my saying pineapple suppository was a hint.
well I did think of the Little Nick movie too…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:11:43pm |
re: #270 sizzleRI
(I really was getting another Coors Light.)
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:12:12pm |
re: #275 brookly red
well I did think of the Little Nick movie too…
I’m so weird I didn’t even know about that movie.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:12:38pm |
re: #272 palomino
Are you in San Antonio? Isn’t there at least a Taco Cabana around?
If not, then I retract my earlier wish that you get food poisoning.
Try a Del Taco.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:12:47pm |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s all I drink. mmm.
No sarc. Really.
Hot chocolate? Water? Juice?
How can you even type?
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:13:06pm |
OT (if there even is one at this point): I got a new neighbor in the apartment below me. Dude plays the accordion.
I seriously lost the neighbor lottery on this one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:13:16pm |
re: #277 Gus 802
I’m so weird I didn’t even know about that movie.
Oh. It was terrible.
That clip is the best thing in it.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:13:37pm |
re: #280 Soap_Man
OT (if there even is one at this point): I got a new neighbor in the apartment below me. Dude plays the accordion.
I seriously lost the neighbor lottery on this one.
Those are fighting words.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:13:44pm |
re: #272 palomino
Are you in San Antonio? Isn’t there at least a Taco Cabana around?
If not, then I retract my earlier wish that you get food poisoning.
Austin - north side. way north. Cabana is not faaaar, but it’s a couple exits further than I want to go. San Antonio has some awesome mexican food (of course), but I’ve lived there and austin both, and strangely, austin has better. Unless you know the right dives to go to in SA. Blanco Street Cafe in SA is the best mexican food you’ll ever eat.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:14:05pm |
re: #280 Soap_Man
OT (if there even is one at this point): I got a new neighbor in the apartment below me. Dude plays the accordion.
I seriously lost the neighbor lottery on this one.
Noise wars!
Two words. Marshall. Stacks.
/
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:14:11pm |
re: #264 Soap_Man
So, the lead story on HuffPo has multiple links, one about how the Tea Party “leaders” hate the tax compromise, and another about how the House Dems hate it.
You know, there is a saying, if partisans on the left and the right hate your proposal, you know you’re on to something.
Good point. And the two sides hate it for the same reason: there was compromise involved.
This is all kind of silly. We’re arguing about 36% vs. 39% tax rates as if one were communism and the other anarchy. It’s absurd. We’re fiddling while Rome burns.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:14:12pm |
re: #280 Soap_Man
OT (if there even is one at this point): I got a new neighbor in the apartment below me. Dude plays the accordion.
I seriously lost the neighbor lottery on this one.
“Welcome to hell, Maestro. Here’s your accordion.”
- Far Side
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:15:08pm |
re: #280 Soap_Man
OT (if there even is one at this point): I got a new neighbor in the apartment below me. Dude plays the accordion.
I seriously lost the neighbor lottery on this one.
would you care to enroll in the Brookly School of Deniable Accidents?
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Soap_Man Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:16:51pm |
re: #282 Walter L. Newton
Those are fighting words.
The accordion is a fine instrument. In fact, I have a musician friend who knows how to play it and she tells me it’s very difficult.
I just don’t like hearing it through my floor at 11:15 on a weeknight.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:17:47pm |
re: #285 palomino
Be it ever so crumbly
There’s no place like Rome
Nero, he was the ruler
And the palace was his home.
But he loved to play with matches
And a fire he yearned
So he burned Rome to ashes
And fiddled while it burned.
-Bugs Bunny
Now I’ll google to see how close I was.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:18:07pm |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
Try a Del Taco.
No, DON’T. It’s nothing more than a Taco Bell incorrectly spelled backwards.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:18:47pm |
re: #280 Soap_Man
OT (if there even is one at this point): I got a new neighbor in the apartment below me. Dude plays the accordion.
I seriously lost the neighbor lottery on this one.
Is he one of the famous Shmenge brothers? All great accordionists.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:19:18pm |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Damn close, but, not 100%.
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brookly red Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:20:32pm |
The gf is yelling and shooting at something…I gotta go.
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sizzleRI Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:21:11pm |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Its all I want to drink. Seriously.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:21:22pm |
re: #290 palomino
No, DON’T. It’s nothing more than a Taco Bell incorrectly spelled backwards.
I found the best snatch and grab mexican food at a number of outdoor flea markets in the Houston area. Really authentic, same as you would find from street vendors in Mexico.
And pico de gallo that would clean out your sinuses and intestinal tract all in one fell swoop.
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webevintage Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:21:37pm |
re: #285 palomino
Good point. And the two sides hate it for the same reason: there was compromise involved.
This is all kind of silly. We’re arguing about 36% vs. 39% tax rates as if one were communism and the other anarchy. It’s absurd. We’re fiddling while Rome burns.
Today has just been insane.
I don’t think I have ever heard Progressives discuss the deficit and worry about it as much as I have today.
Huffpo and Daily Kos now make my brain hurt and Keith Olberman “special comment” made me embarrassed to have ever called myself a liberal/progressive Democrat.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:24:23pm |
Deep Purple - Burn
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:25:19pm |
re: #283 cliffster
Austin - north side. way north. Cabana is not faaar, but it’s a couple exits further than I want to go. San Antonio has some awesome mexican food (of course), but I’ve lived there and austin both, and strangely, austin has better. Unless you know the right dives to go to in SA. Blanco Street Cafe in SA is the best mexican food you’ll ever eat.
I take back most of what I said earlier. And you are absolutely correct about Blanco Street Cafe. Went there often back in the 90s when I lived in S.A.
But come on, it’s only a couple more exits to Taco Cabana, and you aren’t willing to drive it? They used to say “I’d walk a mile for a Camel cigarette.” Are you really unwilling to drive a mile for real food?
What are your favorite spots in Austin?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:26:17pm |
re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Be it ever so crumbly
There’s no place like Rome
Nero, he was the ruler
And the palace was his home.But he loved to play with matches
And a fire he yearned
So he burned Rome to ashes
And fiddled while it burned.
-Bugs BunnyNow I’ll google to see how close I was.
If you’re off at all, it got by me. The Bunny had really good writers.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:27:51pm |
re: #293 brookly red
The gf is yelling and shooting at something…I gotta go.
She’s shooting at something? And you took the time to type a post before checking things out?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:31:22pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
I found the best snatch and grab mexican food at a number of outdoor flea markets in the Houston area. Really authentic, same as you would find from street vendors in Mexico.
And pico de gallo that would clean out your sinuses and intestinal tract all in one fell swoop.
Ahh, that reminds me of home. Houston was a good town to grow up in, but I don’t miss it that much, except for the Tex Mex and BBQ. When I’m there, I usually have one for lunch, the other for dinner. And then repeat daily.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:31:39pm |
re: #303 palomino
She’s shooting at something? And you took the time to type a post before checking things out?
Well, I didn’t want to say anything…maybe it happens a lot, and there’s no point getting excited.
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:32:01pm |
re: #301 palomino
What are your favorite spots in Austin?
oh man - I’ll stop by Jardin Corona or Curra’s for something quick and cheap. Downtown, I love Nuevo Leon. And then I do of course love Chuy’s, even though it’s burst from the Austin scene now. You’ve had a good sampling of Austin fare?
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:34:35pm |
re: #297 webevintage
Today has just been insane.
I don’t think I have ever heard Progressives discuss the deficit and worry about it as much as I have today.Huffpo and Daily Kos now make my brain hurt and Keith Olberman “special comment” made me embarrassed to have ever called myself a liberal/progressive Democrat.
It was like this for a little while in the mid 90’s, when the left realized that Clinton wasn’t a true believer. Instead, like Obama, he was a left-leaning pragmatist who wanted to get things done, not commit political suicide for unattainable ideals.
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engineer cat Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:35:39pm |
MSNBC headline: For Obama, the tax deal is a back-door stimulus
TMI
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Lidane Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:37:03pm |
re: #306 cliffster
Curra’s is awesome. Love those guys.
Polvos is great too, as are Abuelo’s and Guero’s.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:38:12pm |
re: #306 cliffster
oh man - I’ll stop by Jardin Corona or Curra’s for something quick and cheap. Downtown, I love Nuevo Leon. And then I do of course love Chuy’s, even though it’s burst from the Austin scene now. You’ve had a good sampling of Austin fare?
No, just SA and Houston. But this holiday season I’ll be in Austin for a while too, so I’m always looking for new food, especially BBQ and Tex-Mex. I eat like a pig when I’m in TX and usually gain about 10 lbs in 2 weeks. Then I come back to skinny Cali and burn it off, but it takes a lot more than two weeks.
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Gus Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:40:33pm |
re: #308 palomino
It was like this for a little while in the mid 90’s, when the left realized that Clinton wasn’t a true believer. Instead, like Obama, he was a left-leaning pragmatist who wanted to get things done, not commit political suicide for unattainable ideals.
Grumble. That reminds me. I was rambling off earlier today about people being pissed at Obama when in fact I didn’t vote for Clinton the second time around because I thought he wasn’t enough of a leftist. That would be different now.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:40:58pm |
re: #309 engineer dog
MSNBC headline: For Obama, the tax deal is a back-door stimulus
TMI
So that means for Republicans the tax deal was a front door cockblock?
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cliffster Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:42:09pm |
re: #310 Lidane
Curra’s is awesome. Love those guys.
Polvos is great too, as are Abuelo’s and Guero’s.
polvos! how could I leave that off - great breakfast. speaking of great breakfast.. can’t forget Juan in a Million…
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:43:58pm |
re: #313 Gus 802
Grumble. That reminds me. I was rambling off earlier today about people being pissed at Obama when in fact I didn’t vote for Clinton the second time around because I thought he wasn’t enough of a leftist. That would be different now.
Progressives are having a fit and talking about staying home. All just hyperventilation at this point. Clinton won reelection easily despite the far left’s ambivalence. If Obama loses, it won’t be because of this.
And do these folks really think that Hillary wouldn’t be making similar deals? Does anyone think she would have governed much differently than her husband?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:52:20pm |
re: #314 palomino
So that means for Republicans the tax deal was a front door cockblock?
No, it means the GOP made its play and got much of what they wanted.
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Stanley Sea Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:52:43pm |
re: #314 palomino
So that means for Republicans the tax deal was a front door cockblock?
lol, I check back in and see this. Gracias.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:57:12pm |
A good song for a mourning thread.
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palomino Tue, Dec 7, 2010 11:11:33pm |
re: #319 Dark_Falcon
No, it means the GOP made its play and got much of what they wanted.
I think you missed the context, which was supposedly humorous.
And didn’t the Dems get something out of it as well?
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Summer Seale Tue, Dec 7, 2010 11:48:08pm |
Hey everyone, I know it’s mega late for most of you and I just got into work here in France to start my morning and saw the news.
So I’m just adding my major condolences for a really incredibly strong woman and her family and friends. I have a huge amount of respect for her for what she’s been through.
| 324 |
Taqyia2Me Wed, Dec 8, 2010 2:51:01am |
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Edwards family as they grieve the loss of Elizabeth.
| 325 |
haikugoalie Wed, Dec 8, 2010 4:56:58am |
US politics
is hard on a pol’s family
Especially true here
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KayInMaine Wed, Dec 8, 2010 5:13:53am |
Elizabeth was a terrific mother first and foremost and she was kind, considerate and loyal to those around her. She spent countless hours of her life trying to make things better for those who didn’t have a voice. Her energy and sparkly eyes will be missed. Her husband? An armpit who should be ashamed of himself! May she RIP now after all she’s been through.
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Super-ego Wed, Dec 8, 2010 6:37:11am |
May Elizabeth’s family be strengthened and sustained by the faith that carried her to the end.
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