I'd rather watch Obama on Mythbusters....

A lot of tech nerds are going to get to go on TV!

Remember the deodorant, guys, and zip those flies.

re: #2 Obdicut

A lot of tech nerds are going to get to go on TV!

Remember the deodorant, guys, and zip those flies.

And don't forget to shoot the camera...after all, it's a "camera shoot"...

Reading the previous threads, people seem to have the idea that these guys are just a bunch of kids who are 'taking a break from a video game' to go fuck shit up on the internet because they are impulsive idiots and you know, keeping the web presence of major corporations like Visa under siege is just that easy!

It's not, these things take very highly motivated, highly skilled and coordinated teams.

re: #4 SilentAlfa

Reading the previous threads, people seem to have the idea that these guys are just a bunch of kids who are 'taking a break from a video game' to go fuck shit up on the internet because they are impulsive idiots and you know, keeping the web presence of major corporations like Visa under siege is just that easy!

It's not, these things take very highly motivated, highly skilled and coordinated teams.

It takes a email blast to spread the word, or a forum, and enough children running about 4 lines of code to start a DOS attack on a site.

re: #3 darthstar

And don't forget to shoot the camera...after all, it's a "camera shoot"...

Groan. Not more of that wretched 'Jersey Shore' jetsam...

re: #4 SilentAlfa

Anon distributed a botnet client to which logs into an invite only IRC channel to coordinate their actions. It's the troll equivalent of folding@home. My guess is that there are only a few people who actually know what they're doing. Everyone else is just in it for the lulz.

re: #7 BishopX

Anon distributed a botnet client to which logs into an invite only IRC channel to coordinate their actions. It's the troll equivalent of folding@home. My guess is that there are only a few people who actually know what they're doing. Everyone else is just in it for the lulz.

Um... what is folding@home?

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Um... what is folding@home?

[Link: folding.stanford.edu...]

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Um... what is folding@home?

Folding@home ("Folding at Home") (sometimes abbreviated as FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing (DC) project designed to perform computationally intensive simulations of protein folding and other molecular dynamics (MD), and to improve on the methods available to do so. It was launched on October 1, 2000, and is currently managed by the Pande Group, within Stanford University's chemistry department, under the supervision of Professor Vijay Pande.

Folding@home is the most powerful distributed computing cluster in the world, according to Guinness,[2] and one of the world's largest distributed computing projects.[3] The goal of the project is "to understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases."[4]

re: #4 SilentAlfa

Reading the previous threads, people seem to have the idea that these guys are just a bunch of kids who are 'taking a break from a video game' to go fuck shit up on the internet because they are impulsive idiots and you know, keeping the web presence of major corporations like Visa under siege is just that easy!

It's not, these things take very highly motivated, highly skilled and coordinated teams.

People who are highly motivated, highly skilled, and have an attention span longer than a nanosecond are pulling down the big bucks as security consultants for major corporations. They are not pulling the equivalent of graffiti tags on subway cars.

re: #5 Walter L. Newton

It takes a email blast to spread the word, or a forum, and enough children running about 4 lines of code to start a DOS attack on a site.

Absolutely, assuming they limit themselves to this.

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Um... what is folding@home?

It's this project where researchers basically have you play this puzzle game to fold proteins as efficiently as possible to help them learn more about how proteins are folded.

The BBC has a good overview of the difficulty prosecuting Assange.

-SNIP-
Mr Assange's lawyers could also argue in court that the Espionage Act does not apply to foreign nationals acting outside of US territory.

But even getting Mr Assange to the US would prove troublesome, according to Jacques Semmelman, a New York lawyer and authority on extradition law.

Espionage is seen as a political crime, and political offences are not subject to extradition under the US-UK, US-Sweden and UK-Sweden treaties, Mr Semmelman said.

re: #11 Alouette

People who are highly motivated, highly skilled, and have an attention span longer than a nanosecond are pulling down the big bucks as security consultants for major corporations. They are not pulling the equivalent of graffiti tags on subway cars.

ok im wrong :(

re: #10 Varek Raith

...snip

Folding@home is the most powerful distributed computing cluster in the world, according to Guinness,[2] and one of the world's largest distributed computing projects.[3] The goal of the project is "to understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases."[4]

The Mima.

The inventor was himself completely dumbstruck
the day he found that one half of the mima
he'd invented lay beyond analysis.
That the mima had invented half herself.

--Aniara

re: #13 BishopX

The BBC has a good overview of the difficulty prosecuting Assange.

I suspect the extradition deal has already been planned.

re: #16 Killgore Trout

I suspect the extradition deal has already been planned.

Briton also has troops in harms way so this may become more than a political crime to them... we shall see.

re: #16 Killgore Trout

I suspect the extradition deal has already been planned.

Agreed. Asange has made himself hated enough that much of the letter of the law may be cast aside. When you piss off enough powerful people, you're in for a world of hurt no matter what the law says.

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Asange has made himself hated enough that much of the letter of the law may be cast aside. When you piss off enough powerful people, you're in for a world of hurt no matter what the law says.

an extended vacation in Cuba perhaps?

re: #11 Alouette

People who are highly motivated, highly skilled, and have an attention span longer than a nanosecond are pulling down the big bucks as security consultants for major corporations. They are not pulling the equivalent of graffiti tags on subway cars.

you'd be surprised - money isn't the be all and end all for some.

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Given the way holder has a tendency to shoot off his mouth, I doubt that they are anywhere near ready to charge Assange, let alone extradite him. None of this stuff is new, the US has know Assange had this stuff for months. If they had anything easy to charge him with, they would have acted sooner.

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Asange has made himself hated enough that much of the letter of the law may be cast aside. When you piss off enough powerful people, you're in for a world of hurt no matter what the law says.

You see this as a bad thing correct Dark?

re: #20 wozzablog

you'd be surprised - money isn't the be all and end all for some.

Well, those people are psychotic.

Evening lizards!

It looks like the cyberpunk attacks are heating up today. How hard is it to locate these idiots?

re: #22 jamesfirecat

You see this as a bad thing correct Dark?

Its not a good thing, but its The Way It Is.

More Trutherism on Fox....
Geraldo Rivera Tells Bill O'reilly Recent Domestic Terror Plots Are Fake

This has become so common that even I hesitate to bother posting it anymore.

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Its not a good thing, but its The Way It Is.

This might be what evolution looks like now.

re: #26 Killgore Trout

More Trutherism on Fox...
Geraldo Rivera Tells Bill O'reilly Recent Domestic Terror Plots Are Fake

[Video]This has become so common that even I hesitate to bother posting it anymore.

Well, thankfully O'Reilly doesn't believe that. Hopefully, he holds to that. The FBI is doing good work putting away these scum.

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Its not a good thing, but its The Way It Is.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't bring up how evil/wrong it should be whenever we find ourselves dealing with the issue just because it is business as usual.

We should confront the Banality of evil whenever it presents itself to us....

re: #23 Alouette

Well, those people are psychotic.

I don't believe money to be the biggest measure in the success of someones life, neither do the developers of open source software like OpenOffice or the folks at the Mozilla foundation. Or the thousands of gifted Linux developers.

re: #2 Obdicut

A lot of tech nerds are going to get to go on TV!

Remember the deodorant, guys, and zip those flies.

Also, will it kill you to comb your hair?

re: #29 jamesfirecat

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't bring up how evil/wrong it should be whenever we find ourselves dealing with the issue just because it is business as usual.

We should confront the Banality of evil whenever it presents itself to us...

I don't confront those things that I cannot change. No matter what the rules are, they will get thrown aside if too much power gets too angry. The key is to keep it from being easy for that to happen, and in America that has been done.

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Well, thankfully O'Reilly doesn't believe that. Hopefully, he holds to that. The FBI is doing good work putting away these scum.

I don't take much comfort in O'Reilly's rebuttal. It shouldn't even be given airtime. Fox News is making a conscious editorial decision to mainstream this stuff.

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

I don't confront those things that I cannot change. No matter what the rules are, they will get thrown aside if too much power gets too angry. The key is to keep it from being easy for that to happen, and in America that has been done.

///Conservative - n. one who is is enamored with the same old evils, as compared to a Liberal who wishes to replace them with new ones.

[Link: www.devilsdictionarydefiled.com...]

Philly company accepting donations for Wikileaks

A tech startup based in Philadelphia says it is taking donations for Wikileaks.

Xipwire (pronounced Zipwire) says on its website that anyone who wishes to support Wikileaks through a donation should be able to do so.

The company says WikiLeaks supporters will be able to donate either through their website, or by text message if they have a Xipwire account. The announcement comes after MasterCard, along with a string of U.S.-based companies - including Visa, Amazon.com and PayPal - cut ties to WikiLeaks amid intense U.S. government pressure.

Xipwire says it is waiving all fees so that 100% of the donations collected will be directly passed on to WikiLeaks.

Well, PayPal is still functional, I just paid for a Christmas gift there!

Ron Paul Goes on 9-11 Truther Napolitano's Fox show to announce that his oversight of the Federal Reserve will be confirmed....

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Philly company accepting donations for Wikileaks

I think they're due for a boycott.

re: #34 jamesfirecat

///Conservative - n. one who is is enamored with the same old evils, as compared to a Liberal who wishes to replace them with new ones.

[Link: www.devilsdictionarydefiled.com...]

You need new evils when the old evils cease to work.

re: #36 Floral Giraffe

If anyone messes with my credit card or LGF subscription, it's war.

OT: Just watched Maddow interview the author of Uganda's anti-gay bill. Need to go shower now.

re: #41 JasonA

OT: Just watched Maddow interview the author of Uganda's anti-gay bill. Need to go shower now.

Did the first directly cause the second?

re: #41 JasonA

OT: Just watched Maddow interview the author of Uganda's anti-gay bill. Need to go shower now.

i started to watch that ep earlier - tuned out when the Obama bashing reached brainfreeze proportions in the first two segments.

re: #43 wozzablog

i started to watch that ep earlier - tuned out when the Obama bashing reached brainfreeze proportions in the first two segments.

I take it she doesn't like the deal Obama cut.

re: #30 wozzablog

I don't believe money to be the biggest measure in the success of someones life, neither do the developers of open source software like OpenOffice or the folks at the Mozilla foundation. Or the thousands of gifted Linux developers.

I'd rather make less money at a job that I love, than a whole bunch of money doing something that is very stressful. But having no job and using one's skills for criminal mischief instead of being productive is psychotic.

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

I take it she doesn't like the deal Obama cut.

no one does... that is how you know it is fair.

re: #46 brookly red

no one does... that is how you know it is fair.

At this point I'm actually starting to like it since I saw this Graph...

Image: taxdealchart.jpg

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

I take it she doesn't like the deal Obama cut.

that's a fair assessment.
well, possibly not so much this deal as that there was a deal at all.

She's a very smart lady but fails to see that none of what got passed vis-a-vis the lower income tax cut or the extended unemployment insurance (or the other good stuff) would have come during the GOP majority.

Obama realised the GOP were prepared to drive those on incomes under $250k over a cliff if they didn't get the upper income tax cut. Simple as that. His "hostage" analogy was apt.

re: #45 Alouette

I'd rather make less money at a job that I love, than a whole bunch of money doing something that is very stressful. But having no job and using one's skills for criminal mischief instead of being productive is psychotic.

... what? oh sorry I didn't think you were watching.

Here we see the advantage of paper, pens, envelopes, diplomatic bags & lead seals on a string.

Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.

A goat head should be used for playing football.

I'm applying to this program, and they want a personal statement, minimum two pages, discussing my 'background' and 'experience', as well as what I want out of the program.

How much detail do they actually want? I'm thirty-seven. I have a lot of 'background' and 'experience'.

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm applying to this program, and they want a personal statement, minimum two pages, discussing my 'background' and 'experience', as well as what I want out of the program.

How much detail do they actually want? I'm thirty-seven. I have a lot of 'background' and 'experience'.

Also, do they mean two pages doublespaced? That's what I would mean.

re: #48 wozzablog

that's a fair assessment.
well, possibly not so much this deal as that there was a deal at all.

She's a very smart lady but fails to see that none of what got passed vis-a-vis the lower income tax cut or the extended unemployment insurance (or the other good stuff) would have come during the GOP majority.

Obama realised the GOP were prepared to drive those on incomes under $250k over a cliff if they didn't get the upper income tax cut. Simple as that. His "hostage" analogy was apt.

The question is, which is the better move, to let the tax cuts lapse on lower and middle class and rightfully blame the GOP for being so partisan, or do what may not be the best political thing to do, but will hopefully spurr the economy a fair bit more...

Why the public is pissed with bankers:

Christopher Marconi was in the shower when he heard a loud banging on his door. By the time he grabbed a towel and hustled to his front step, a U.S. marshal's sedan was peeling out of his driveway. Nailed to Marconi's front door was a foreclosure summons from Wells Fargo, naming him as a defendant. But the notice was for a house Marconi had never seen — on a mortgage he never had.

Tom Williams was in his kitchen thumbing through the mail when he opened a letter from GMAC. It informed him that the bank would confiscate his house unless he immediately paid off his mortgage balance of $276,000. But Williams had never missed a mortgage payment. And his loan wasn't due to mature until 2032.

Warren Nyerges opened his front door in Naples, Fla., to find a scraggly-haired summons server standing on his stoop. He plopped a foreclosure notice from Bank of America in Nyerges' hands. But Nyerges had paid for his house in cash. And he'd never had a checking account, much less a mortgage, with Bank of America.

By now, you may have heard the stories of bank robo-signers powering through hundreds of foreclosure affidavits a day without verifying a single fact. But most of those involved homeowners who had stopped paying their mortgage. They were genuine defaulters. Now a new species of homeowner is getting pushed into foreclosure hell.

People have always loved to complain about their banks. The push-button circus that passes for customer service. The larding on of fees. But the false foreclosure cases are hardly the usual complaints. These homeowners paid their mortgages — or loan modifications — on time. Some even paid off their loans. Worse, those on the receiving end of a bad foreclosure claim tell similar stories of getting bounced from one bank official to the next with no resolution while the foreclosure process continues apace.

I'm a conservative, but this one is very clearly over the line. The bank officials who caused this go to on should be prosecuted.

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm applying to this program, and they want a personal statement, minimum two pages, discussing my 'background' and 'experience', as well as what I want out of the program.

How much detail do they actually want? I'm thirty-seven. I have a lot of 'background' and 'experience'.

maybe you should ask them for a credit card number ;)

Well leave it to Berkley to do something this insane...

Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?

An Army private jailed for allegedly leaking sensitive military data is a hero and should be freed, according to a resolution under consideration by the Berkeley City Council.

The council is expected to vote Tuesday on whether to declare its support for Pfc. Bradley Manning, who's suspected of providing WikiLeaks with classified military documents and a video depicting an Army helicopter attack in Baghdad in which 11 civilians were killed.

Manning, 22, currently in the brig in Quantico, Va., faces 52 years in prison if convicted. Manning has not commented on his guilt or innocence.

"If he did what he's accused of doing, he's a patriot and should get a medal," said Bob Meola, the Berkeley peace and justice commissioner who authored the resolution. "I think the war criminals should be the ones prosecuted, not the whistle-blowers."

The proposed resolution originated from the same commission that declared the Marine Corps "unwanted intruders" in Berkeley in 2008. The council's ensuing approval - and reversal - ignited some of the city's most raucous protest in years and prompted more than 25,000 e-mails to City Hall.

This time, however, the commission's vote was not unanimous. The resolution passed on a 7-3 vote, and it's likely to be just as contentious when it meets the City Council.

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm applying to this program, and they want a personal statement, minimum two pages, discussing my 'background' and 'experience', as well as what I want out of the program.

How much detail do they actually want? I'm thirty-seven. I have a lot of 'background' and 'experience'.

They want to know if you are an underprivileged minority.

re: #53 jamesfirecat

The question is, which is the better move, to let the tax cuts lapse on lower and middle class and rightfully blame the GOP for being so partisan, or do what may not be the best political thing to do, but will hopefully spurr the economy a fair bit more...

in my mind there is no question, and they managed to get it right for once in the senate when they found a way to decouple the tax cuts higher/lower on an up and down vote so they can hold the GOP to it later electorally.

The republicans put in a tonne of measures to screw up the deficit even further. That's on their conscience.

re: #58 wozzablog

in my mind there is no question, and they managed to get it right for once in the senate when they found a way to decouple the tax cuts higher/lower on an up and down vote so they can hold the GOP to it later electorally.

The republicans put in a tonne of measures to screw up the deficit even further. That's on their conscience.

They have consciences?

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

You may find this article about mortgage and "control fraud" quite interesting:

Fraud with a capital F

re: #56 NJDhockeyfan

Well leave it to Berkley to do something this insane...

Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?

Walter brought this up on the previous thread. The reaction there was as hostile as yours is and justly so.

LGF to Berkeley commission: Bark, moonbats, bark!

re: #53 jamesfirecat

The question is, which is the better move, to let the tax cuts lapse on lower and middle class and rightfully blame the GOP for being so partisan, or do what may not be the best political thing to do, but will hopefully spurr the economy a fair bit more...

So he's not a Kenyan, he's a melancholy Dane.

re: #45 Alouette

I'd rather make less money at a job that I love, than a whole bunch of money doing something that is very stressful. But having no job and using one's skills for criminal mischief instead of being productive is psychotic.

who says these people are unemployed?.

A few guys write the code for an automated ddos programme and a bunch of wage slaves download an app to their computer that performs the ddos attack while their out delivering pizza or working at your local bank.

re: #1 jamesfirecat

I'd rather watch Obama on Mythbusters...

I really wanted that solar weapon to work... :(

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

Walter brought this up on the previous thread. The reaction there was as hostile as yours is and justly so.

LGF to Berkeley commission: Bark, moonbats, bark!

It made the rounds.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Philly company accepting donations for Wikileaks

Good...now I know to avoid this company like the plague.

re: #45 Alouette

I'd rather make less money at a job that I love, than a whole bunch of money doing something that is very stressful. But having no job and using one's skills for criminal mischief instead of being productive is psychotic.

Some folks are raised in a "psychotic" manner. I'm not condoning it. I think a lot of the lower income folks that live around me were raised that way. It tells in their words and deeds.

re: #60 Ojoe

You may find this article about mortgage and "control fraud" quite interesting:

Fraud with a capital F

Interesting, but the remedy it describes will never happen. A bank holiday would leave millions in the lurch. People who don't use cash much would get pummeled.

re: #64 boxhead

I really wanted that solar weapon to work... :(

here, have a magnifying glass and go look for some ants... ;)

re: #62 Decatur Deb

So he's not a Kenyan, he's a melancholy Dane.

To be, or not to be– that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And, by opposing, end them.

re: #66 talon_262

Good...now I know to avoid this company like the plague.

Get the word out. Post this story on all your favorite websites.

re: #63 wozzablog

who says these people are unemployed?.

A few guys write the code for an automated ddos programme and a bunch of wage slaves download an app to their computer that performs the ddos attack while their out delivering pizza or working at your local bank.

"Throws up her hands." Somebody smarter than me should get this under control. Any young MIT grads up for it?

Paypal is getting hit by the hackers right now. I can't log in to make a payment on a purchase at Ebay.

Damn.

re: #70 wozzablog

To be, or not to be– that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The bankers theft of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of blue dogs
And, by opposing, end the cuts.

I recall a lot of Assange supporters here claiming that they are advocating for free and open internet but Assange and his supporters are doing everything they can to make a mess of the internet. They are destroying what they claim to be protecting. This is going to result new laws.

re: #73 celticdragon

Paypal is getting hit by the hackers right now. I can't log in to make a payment on a purchase at Ebay.

Damn.

I'm going to go buy something to check!

re: #72 prairiefire

"Throws up her hands." Somebody smarter than me should get this under control. Any young MIT grads up for it?

it's almost impossible.
the hackers are usually atleast 2 steps ahead.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

This coming Congress is going to be quite the circus.

re: #73 celticdragon

Paypal is getting hit by the hackers right now. I can't log in to make a payment on a purchase at Ebay.

Damn.

Nice to know they feel so passionately about Wikileaks. I wish they could show that same spirit in actual defense of freedom.

/spits

re: #69 brookly red

here, have a magnifying glass and go look for some ants... ;)

LOL

re: #75 Killgore Trout

They are destroying what they claim to be protecting.

Don't worry, Ron Paul will save the internet for you.

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Send them your standard resume. Let them ask, if they want more detail.

You know. For a while there I was reading about Scientology. I soon realized that while Scientology is a strange outfit, people like "anonymous" have Scientology Derangement Syndrome. They're pretty obsessed and the anti-Scientology people are almost a cult themselves.

re: #81 freetoken

Don't worry, Ron Paul will save the internet for you.

how can he?
you know it's not a big truck, right?

I knew there was something special about December 8th. Happy Birthday gorgeous.

re: #73 celticdragon

It was slow to load, but I made a payment a little while ago.
Uplifting the economy, don't you know!

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I recall a lot of Assange supporters here claiming that they are advocating for free and open internet but Assange and his supporters are doing everything they can to make a mess of the internet. They are destroying what they claim to be protecting. This is going to result new laws.

Not that I was supporting Assange in any way but on what basis do you claim what some 'internet group' is doing was in any way supported by Assange?

re: #85 rwmofo

thread goes down hill in

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re: #83 Gus 802

You know. For a while there I was reading about Scientology. I soon realized that while Scientology is a strange outfit, people like "anonymous" have Scientology Derangement Syndrome. They're pretty obsessed and the anti-Scientology people are almost a cult themselves.

I suspect you might be right.

re: #76 prairiefire

I'm going to go buy something to check!

It is frickin down, no joke. This will get a lot of attention.

re: #64 boxhead

I really wanted that solar weapon to work... :(

Both Archimedes and Tesla's dreams of a death ray have come to naught...

re: #85 rwmofo

I knew there was something special about December 8th. Happy Birthday gorgeous.

Send that woman an "all you can eat" gift certificate to In & Out Burger.
PLEASE!

re: #85 rwmofo

I knew there was something special about December 8th. Happy Birthday gorgeous.

I used to like her, but not anymore.

We should release the blueprints for all of our weapons systems.
Secrecy is bad.
/I'm having fun with this wikileaks mentality.
:)

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I used to like her, but not anymore.

What was their ever to like about her Dark?

Not blaming you just want to understand the rational conservative mind better...

re: #92 Floral Giraffe

Send that woman an "all you can eat" gift certificate to In & Out Burger.
PLEASE!

i

re: #94 Varek Raith

We should release the blueprints for all of our weapons systems.
Secrecy is bad.
/I'm having fun with this wikileaks mentality.
:)

Oh but they already have the blueprints for our weapons systems. It wouldn't make a difference.

//

re: #96 wozzablog

i

what the heck happened there?

re: #88 wozzablog

thread goes down hill in

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How about the latest Helen Thomas quotes?

Defending her controversial comments in Dearborn, journalist Helen Thomas said on a radio show aired Tuesday that a prominent Jewish group was intimidating her. And she maintained her belief that Zionists are controlling U.S. foreign policy.

"I just think that people should be enlightened as to who is in charge of the opinion in this country," Thomas, 90, told the Marion, Ohio, radio station, WMRN-AM. "I mean, they've gotten the First Amendment."

In response, ADL Director Abe Foxman told the Free Press today that the group has a right to criticize Thomas, whose bigoted comments are "doing body blows to her image."

After she said Thursday in Dearborn that Zionists control major U.S. institutions, the head of the Anti-Defamation League, Abe Foxman, said her comments were "classic...anti-Semitism." He called upon groups and universities to disassociate themselves from her by removing any honors in her name. Hours later, Wayne State University pulled a journalism award in her name.

"I'm going to tell the Anti-Defamation League to back off," Thomas said on the radio show. "They think they have the right of intimidation."

"They already got my job. They want to get my honorary degrees. I mean, who are these people? What's the matter, they can't take freedom of speech?"

She added: "I'm getting tired of this intimidation. I'm going to report him (ADL director Abe Foxman) to President Obama and all the proper authorities. He better stop intimidating me. He has to shut up everyone in the country who is against Israeli tyranny. That's his job. That's what he is paid for."

re: #85 rwmofo

I knew there was something special about December 8th. Happy Birthday gorgeous.

Sorry, she's a wizened, hateful person.

Nobody makes blueprints anymore, but they would actually be safer, as they cannot be hacked, or stored on a thumb drive, etc.

Good night.

re: #85 rwmofo

I knew there was something special about December 8th. Happy Birthday gorgeous.

The fact that she thinks that I am in need of being "perfected" because I am a Jew is significantly less than gorgeous.

If there's a chance your kid can grow up to be a starting MLB pitcher, there's a better than average ROI. The bidding begins at $140M.

re: #92 Floral Giraffe

Send that woman an "all you can eat" gift certificate to In & Out Burger.
PLEASE!

i love in and out burger :-)
my gf dragged me around their assorted locations in vegas. very nice.

Although i did much prefer Goodburger in colorado though. And Wendys.

Still - some better than average burgers.

re: #97 Gus 802

Oh but they already have the blueprints for our weapons systems. It wouldn't make a difference.

//

Wonder how long before Assange and his supporters realize that opening the Pandora's Box that is government secrecy wasn't actually a good idea...

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

(swoons)

my hero.....................

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

How about the latest Helen Thomas quotes?

Crazy lady is crazy.

Hope you weren't trying to say Thomas is the Democrat version of Coulter though... I don't see her releasing a book series any time soon....

re: #102 bratwurst

The fact that she thinks that I am in need of being "perfected" because I am a Jew is significantly less than gorgeous.

As a Christian, she is "the vine grafted on" and is not really in a place of authority.

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

Helen Thomas is pretty far down in that hole but seems to have an endless supply of shovels.

re: #104 wozzablog

i love in and out burger :-)
my gf dragged me around their assorted locations in vegas. very nice.

Although i did much prefer Goodburger in colorado though. And Wendys.

Still - some better than average burgers.

My favorite burger is Whataburger... but I think there is only one left some where in Denver.

re: #105 Varek Raith

Wonder how long before Assange and his supporters realize that opening the Pandora's Box that is government secrecy wasn't actually a good idea...

Some will and some won't. The ones that won't are generally anarchist types that don't care about the wider ramifications. We're looking at a good deal of nihilism here.

re: #104 wozzablog

i love in and out burger :-)
my gf dragged me around their assorted locations in vegas. very nice.

Although i did much prefer Goodburger in colorado though. And Wendys.

Still - some better than average burgers.

You went to Vegas and did not get married?/

re: #105 Varek Raith

Wonder how long before Assange and his supporters realize that opening the Pandora's Box that is government secrecy wasn't actually a good idea...

Transparency is necessary for some Government processes. Others, not so much. Exposing documents that can put folks in harms way is unacceptable. Exposing documents showing how money influences politicians would be welcome.

re: #109 rwmofo

Helen Thomas is pretty far down in that hole but seems to have an endless supply of shovels.

She's considered a wonderful heroic woman at HuffPo. Maybe they will hire her.

re: #113 boxhead

Transparency is necessary for some Government processes. Others, not so much. Exposing documents that can put folks in harms way is unacceptable. Exposing documents showing how money influences politicians would be welcome.

/now that there might just be harms way...

re: #113 boxhead

Transparency is necessary for some Government processes. Others, not so much. Exposing documents that can put folks in harms way is unacceptable. Exposing documents showing how money influences politicians would be welcome.

Which is precisely what wikileaks is not doing.
They were/are careless at redacting names of informants.
Wikileaks just does document dumps without care.

re: #105 Varek Raith

Wonder how long before Assange and his supporters realize that opening the Pandora's Box that is government secrecy wasn't actually a good idea...

I doubt it. Anarchists love violence and destruction. This is right up their alley without having to travel anywhere.

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

My favorite burger is Whataburger... but I think there is only one left some where in Denver.

i heard about it but never made it.

Goodburger rocked socks at 1am coming back from the Bluebird.

Best burger i had over there period was at a pub in Boulder called The Hungry Toad.
bacon, avocado and cheddar cheese on some wickedly awesome prime steak mince and crackingly good bun

re: #101 Ojoe

Nobody makes blueprints anymore, but they would actually be safer, as they cannot be hacked, or stored on a thumb drive, etc.

Good night.

Blueprints is a generally accepted word for any type of drawing prints. The last were a diazo process print which were blue line (with a white background). As I'm sure you know.

As print and display technology has advanced, the traditional term "blueprint" has continued to be used informally to refer to each type of image.

re: #95 jamesfirecat

What was their ever to like about her Dark?

Not blaming you just want to understand the rational conservative mind better...

She's always been over the top, but it was not until one of her books a couple years ago that she finally just got too crazy for me. I've never been a fan of over-the-top, but for a while she did a good enough job smacking down liberalism that I was willing to overlook it. But when she moved to just fighting her own fictional version of liberalism, she lost me and she's just kept on going down hill.

re: #112 prairiefire

You went to Vegas and did not get married?/

not the first person to point that out ;-)

re: #121 wozzablog

not the first person to point that out ;-)

Ruh-roh!
/

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

She's always been over the top, but it was not until one of her books a couple years ago that she finally just got too crazy for me. I've never been a fan of over-the-top, but for a while she did a good enough job smacking down liberalism that I was willing to overlook it. But when she moved to just fighting her own fictional version of liberalism, she lost me and she's just kept on going down hill.

I think Jon Stewart had her on once in 2003... he said that the way she was trying to fight Liberalism was like one of those Japanese soldiers in the 1950's who refuses to believe that the war is actually over...

re: #113 boxhead

Transparency is necessary for some Government processes. Others, not so much. Exposing documents that can put folks in harms way is unacceptable. Exposing documents showing how money influences politicians would be welcome.

But!
I do agree that there needs to be transparency for political contributions.

re: #116 Varek Raith

To be completely fair, that isn't how they're handling the cables. They asked the state dept for redactions, and when they were turned down, decided to publish all of them.

I think they realized that they screwed the pooch with the Iraq/Afganistan war logs.

re: #116 Varek Raith

Which is precisely what wikileaks is not doing.
They were/are careless at redacting names of informants.
Wikileaks just does document dumps without care.

yeah.... maybe there was a noble kernel in the beginning, but wikileaks has acted irresponsibly... to the nth degree.

re: #116 Varek Raith

Which is precisely what wikileaks is not doing.
They were/are careless at redacting names of informants.
Wikileaks just does document dumps without care.

Anarchists. People always refer to Julian Assange as a genius. I think otherwise. He certainly lacks common sense.

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, do they mean two pages doublespaced? That's what I would mean.

They might mean single-spaced. That's what we'd mean at our program. Background and experience only as they are relevant to this program (or as you can make them seem relevant).
Good luck!!!

re: #116 Varek Raith

Which is precisely what wikileaks is not doing.
They were/are careless at redacting names of informants.
Wikileaks just does document dumps without care.

Assange just wanted to "end the war", not thinking about how it should end or what sort of regime Iraq and Afghanistan would have after it ended. He is the classic narcissist: "Let my will be done, no matter the cost!"

re: #128 elizajane

They might mean single-spaced. That's what we'd mean at our program. Background and experience only as they are relevant to this program (or as you can make them seem relevant).
Good luck!!!

Single spaced, 8 pt font.
10 pages.
:P

From Roger Ebert's tweets:

Judge Freezes Assets of Beck's Gold Advertiser
The lawsuit alleged that among other things, Superior had defrauded its customers by overcharging them, fraudulently inducing them to buy overpriced collectors' coins rather than the bullion that they wanted, and taking customers' money for coins they never produced.

re: #130 Varek Raith

Single spaced, 8 pt font.
10 pages.
:P

you never saw my dissertation on death rays in sci-fi..................

Evenin again, lizards.

Charles are you around? Have you thought about having a "show users" button on the Pages?

Luke Scott...slugger for the Baltimore Orioles ...and birther...

"[Obama] was not born here," Scott asserted to Answer Man in the session's last segment. "That's my belief. I was born here. If someone accuses me of not being born here, I can go — within 10 minutes — to my filing cabinet and I can pick up my real birth certificate and I can go, 'See? Look! Here it is. Here it is.' The man has dodged everything. He dodges questions, he doesn't answer anything."

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Concentrate on overall teaching philosophy. Also, any concrete programs you initiated or helped to support. You have certainly always appreciated the structured support you have received from your private school teaching background!

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Luke Scott...slugger for the Baltimore Orioles ...and birther...

I cannot... I have the California equivalent that Obama has released.... i suspect many people would be in that position...

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Luke Scott...slugger for the Baltimore Orioles ...and birther...

Oy.
I don't have access to my original birth certificate.
Got no clue where it is or what happened with it.
I've got a short form type of dealie.
Guess I'm an illegal alien.
:P

re: #135 prairiefire

In other words, try to kiss up when you can.

re: #127 Gus 802

Anarchists. People always refer to Julian Assange as a genius. I think otherwise. He certainly lacks common sense.

Well he is considered a hero in Berkley.

re: #104 wozzablog

Very interesting company too.
Family owned, MANY executives killed in a plane crash,
En Wikipedia
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #137 Varek Raith

Oy.
I don't have access to my original birth certificate.
Got no clue where it is or what happened with it.
I've got a short form type of dealie.
Guess I'm an illegal alien.
:P

just say it was destroyed when the pod entered the earths atmosphere..............

What they should do is prioritize Bradley Manning's military court martial. That should send some shock waves through the Wikileaks cult community.

re: #137 Varek Raith

Oy.
I don't have access to my original birth certificate.
Got no clue where it is or what happened with it.
I've got a short form type of dealie.
Guess I'm an illegal alien.
:P

I knew it!!!

re: #127 Gus 802

Anarchists. People always refer to Julian Assange as a genius. I think otherwise. He certainly lacks common sense.

Genius? Maybe the kid who reminded the teacher that she forgot to assign homework, but genius doesn't seem to apply to this guy.

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

Very interesting company too.
Family owned, MANY executives killed in a plane crash,
En Wikipedia
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

the numbers of bible verses printed on the bottom of packs of fries too.........

re: #139 NJDhockeyfan

Well he is considered a hero in Berkley.

What's the deal with Berkley? I only know it in BSD sense, is there some other meaning?

re: #137 Varek Raith

So, how do you know you are a Swede?/ Kidding.

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

Very interesting company too.
Family owned, MANY executives killed in a plane crash,
En Wikipedia
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Now I want a burger.

re: #139 NJDhockeyfan

Well he is considered a hero in Berkley.

No doubt. Although I did find one guy from the "Peace & Justice Commission" that voted against it. That's the real name of the commission too. Apparently it goes to city council next. It may or may not pass. The Israel divestment initiative failed to pass city council several years ago. Otherwise, I'm sure he would find many sympathetic ears in Berkeley.

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Now I want a burger.

What an odd reaction to a plane crash and people dying...
..
.
:P

re: #142 Gus 802

What they should do is prioritize Bradley Manning's military court martial. That should send some shock waves through the Wikileaks cult community.

I doubt it. They don't care about Manning. Assange used him and now that he's caught he's not useful anyways.

re: #133 marjoriemoon

Evenin again, lizards.

Charles are you around? Have you thought about having a "show users" button on the Pages?

Reccomended, so he can look at it, if he's not around!

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

Very interesting company too.
Family owned, MANY executives killed in a plane crash,
En Wikipedia
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

i enjoyed reading about the firm when i was over there. their portions seem to have remained fairly consistent - unlike macdonalds who kept going bigger, bigger bigger.

re: #142 Gus 802

What they should do is prioritize Bradley Manning's military court martial. That should send some shock waves through the Wikileaks cult community.

put him in general population in Guantanamo...

re: #150 Varek Raith

What an odd reaction to a plane crash and people dying...
..
.
:P

don't ask if he was ever stranded in the Andes

re: #150 Varek Raith

What an odd reaction to a plane crash and people dying...
..
.
:P

Think of it as homage.

re: #151 Killgore Trout

I doubt it. They don't care about Manning. Assange used him and now that he's caught he's not useful anyways.

Yeah, probably not. He'll become a martyr to their cause. And he'll spend the next 50 years learning how to make boulders into pebbles. That's if he gets hard labor.

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Luke Scott...slugger for the Baltimore Orioles ...and birther...

What are the odds he thinks the moon landings were faked?

re: #146 yasharki

What's the deal with Berkley? I only know it in BSD sense, is there some other meaning?

University California Berkley or Cal as it is called is in the city of Berkley, tends to have a very progressive populace bordering on extreme. Often San Fransisco gets bundled with Berkley's politics where SF is very diverse.

re: #154 brookly red

put him in general population in Guantanamo...

That way he can be with his countrymen.

/

re: #154 brookly red

put him in general population in Guantanamo...

I wouldn't give those scum the satisfaction. They'd enjoy killing the 'infidel' too much.

g'night

re: #162 wozzablog

g'night

Night, wozza.

re: #162 wozzablog

g'night

nite

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

I wouldn't give those scum the satisfaction. They'd enjoy killing the 'infidel' too much.

He slipped on a bar of soap.
//

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

I wouldn't give those scum the satisfaction. They'd enjoy killing the 'infidel' too much.

But they wouldn't kill a peace loving person like Bradley Manning. They never do.

//

re: #157 Gus 802

Yeah, probably not. He'll become a martyr to their cause. And he'll spend the next 50 years learning how to make boulders into pebbles. That's if he gets hard labor.

I think extraditing Assange on espionage charges is what's really going to send ripples through Wikileaks. They are suddenly going to realize the game they are playing has consequences for them.

re: #158 rwmofo

What are the odds he thinks the moon landings were faked?

He'll tell you all about that after his chemtrail speech.

re: #159 boxhead

University California Berkley or Cal as it is called is in the city of Berkley, tends to have a very progressive populace bordering on extreme. Often San Fransisco gets bundled with Berkley's politics where SF is very diverse.

Progressive to the point of bordering anarchism or nihilism I take it. I think I now understand references made to Berkley in prior comments. Thanks!

re: #130 Varek Raith

Single spaced, 8 pt font.
10 pages.
:P

8 pt? That's awfully large for something like that. I want 2pt flyspeck roman.

///
Got a EULA once that I swear really was printed in that...

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I think extraditing Assange on espionage charges is what's really going to send ripples through Wikileaks. They are suddenly going to realize the game they are playing has consequences for them.

Quite Concur. Once the bars slam home on Assange, they'll know its for real.

Good analysis of the arm-twisting ability of governments in regard to Wikileaks:

State Power and the Response to Wikileaks
...there is a set of tools that states can use to greater effect. The Internet and other networks provide some private actors with a great deal of effective transnational power. Banks that operate across multiple jurisdictions can shape financial flows between these jurisdictions. Information companies may be able to reshape flows of information in ways that advantage or disadvantage particular actors. These private actors are often large, relatively immobile, and partially dependent on state approval for their actions. They thus provide a crucial resource for states. Even if states cannot directly regulate small agile actors outside their jurisdiction, they can indirectly regulate them by pressganging big private actors with cross-jurisdictional reach.
[Link: crookedtimber.org...]

re: #170 wlewisiii

8 pt? That's awfully large for something like that. I want 2pt flyspeck roman.

///
Got a EULA once that I swear really was printed in that...

_{Warning. This pill may cause sudden bleeding from the eyes; vomiting; organ failure; renal failure; hallucinations; and sudden death.}

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. Once the bars slam home on Assange, they'll know its for real.

Right. Just wait a couple of years.

re: #169 yasharki

Progressive to the point of bordering anarchism or nihilism I take it. I think I now understand references made to Berkley in prior comments. Thanks!

you are welcome...

BTW.. in case you did not know, BSD was developed at UCB with the support of AT&T. Later AT&T had a falling out with Cal over BSD. Generally, the University is considered VERY good, especially in math and sciences.

_{Eric Holder = lame.}

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I think extraditing Assange on espionage charges is what's really going to send ripples through Wikileaks. They are suddenly going to realize the game they are playing has consequences for them.

Based on the requirements to win a Pulitzer Prize, Assange has placed himself in the VIP line.

re: #152 Floral Giraffe

Reccomended, so he can look at it, if he's not around!

Thank ye! I thought it was getting a little crowded on some pages ;)

'Nite. all.

re: #174 Gus 802

Right. Just wait a couple of years.

It'll take a while, that's a fact.

re: #179 Decatur Deb

'Nite. all.

nite to you

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Now I want a burger.

What you REALLY want are their fries.
Handmade, and OH SO TASTY.
(I'm on a diet, so they are not in my future, but man, they are excellent!)

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

What you REALLY want are their fries.
Handmade, and OH SO TASTY.
(I'm on a diet, so they are not in my future, but man, they are excellent!)

animal fries......

re: #169 yasharki

Progressive to the point of bordering anarchism or nihilism I take it. I think I now understand references made to Berkley in prior comments. Thanks!

Berkley is also known as Berserkeley.

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. Once the bars slam home on Assange, they'll know its for real.

Only true so far as it goes. They'll dig in using tools like Tor, Freenet , I2P and whatever the next generation of highly encrypted dark net is hiding in plain sight in the open net. As the saying goes, the tighter they squeeze, the more that slips out through the fingers.

Is this good? Is this bad? DIIK. It is real though.

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

What you REALLY want are their fries.
Handmade, and OH SO TASTY.
(I'm on a diet, so they are not in my future, but man, they are excellent!)

If you can manage a diet this time of year, you're my new hero!

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

It'll take a while, that's a fact.

Now I don't want to be like China and this is certainly not an endorsement. But remember that nut that killed all of those kids in China not too long ago? They already executed him.

re: #185 wlewisiii

Only true so far as it goes. They'll dig in using tools like Tor, Freenet , I2P and whatever the next generation of highly encrypted dark net is hiding in plain sight in the open net. As the saying goes, the tighter they squeeze, the more that slips out through the fingers.

Is this good? Is this bad? DIIK. It is real though.

There is need for such dark networks, but it has, is and will be used for bad things.

re: #183 boxhead

animal fries...

Thus speaks a fan!

re: #189 Floral Giraffe

Thus speaks a fan!

Image: 20070227-In-N-Out_Animal_Style_Fries_4.jpg

re: #187 Gus 802

Now I don't want to be like China and this is certainly not an endorsement. But remember that nut that killed all of those kids in China not too long ago? They already executed him.

And how many were killed that quickly that weren't guilty of anything? In China, that is, we already have a good idea about Texas... :oops:

It's looking extremely unlikely that Assange will be extradited on espionage charges. Such charges are shaky at best, and even if found to be valid, European countries such as the UK or Sweden (as well as the Australian government) would be pretty unwilling to extradite with so many in the US calling for the death penalty.

The focus should remain on the sources of the leak (likely Manning at this point), not those publishing the leaks (which includes dozens of high-profile traditional newspapers which would need to be targeted as well for consistency).

re: #175 boxhead

you are welcome...

BTW.. in case you did not know, BSD was developed at UCB with the support of AT&T. Later AT&T had a falling out with Cal over BSD. Generally, the University is considered VERY good, especially in math and sciences.

If you're assuming I mean Unix when I say BSD, you almost got it right :) However Unix was originally developed at AT&T Labs, it's the BSD flavor of it which was later developed in UCB, but you're right there was some kind of disagreement between the two, based on copyrights if memory served...

re: #187 Gus 802

Now I don't want to be like China and this is certainly not an endorsement. But remember that nut that killed all of those kids in China not too long ago? They already executed him.

Here he is...

[Link: www.executedtoday.com...]

Killed 8 kids on March 23rd . Executed on April 28th

re: #190 boxhead

Image: 20070227-In-N-Out_Animal_Style_Fries_4.jpg

I'm sure my hubby would die 20 years younger if that was available in our region!

re: #194 Gus 802

Here he is...

[Link: www.executedtoday.com...]

Killed 8 kids on March 23rd . Executed on April 28th

Good. I hope it was a painful death for that creep.

re: #186 marjoriemoon

An embarassing number of pounds so far, with an equal number yet to go.
It is coming off this body, and yes, it's hard.

re: #190 boxhead

Image: 20070227-In-N-Out_Animal_Style_Fries_4.jpg

Dear god, I could feel my arteries shrinking just looking at it...

re: #191 wlewisiii

And how many were killed that quickly that weren't guilty of anything? In China, that is, we already have a good idea about Texas... :oops:

Don't forget Illinois.

Aretha Franklin Has Cancer.

Sigh.

I hope she fully recovers. If you don't like to hear her sing, there's something wrong with you.

re: #193 yasharki

If you're assuming I mean Unix when I say BSD, you almost got it right :) However Unix was originally developed at AT&T Labs, it's the BSD flavor of it which was later developed in UCB, but you're right there was some kind of disagreement between the two, based on copyrights if memory served...

Hold that thought, it was Bell Labs and "memory serves" :) Thanks for pointing out what Berkley means nowadays anyway, I had no idea.

re: #193 yasharki

If you're assuming I mean Unix when I say BSD, you almost got it right :) However Unix was originally developed at AT&T Labs, it's the BSD flavor of it which was later developed in UCB, but you're right there was some kind of disagreement between the two, based on copyrights if memory served...

Yes... I mean Unix, and yes, I know AT&T Bell Labs created Unix. I worked on AT&T 3B2 mini computer systems in the late 80's. We used System V Rel 3.2 of the Unix operating system... :) AT&T did not like the fact that BSD unix was very good and being used by folks AT&T would like to charge.

yes... I am a nerd... :)

re: #196 NJDhockeyfan

Good. I hope it was a painful death for that creep.

Mike Farrell sent his condolences.

//

re: #202 boxhead

yes... I am a nerd... :)

That makes two of us :)

Let us pause to remember Tookie Williams.

//

re: #184 NJDhockeyfan

Berkley is also known as Berserkeley.

Make fun of Berkeley if you will, but I wouldn't want to live without it. It has an awesome history.

[Link: www.berkeleypubliclibrary.org...]

Particularly the 60s when so much was going on. Race relations, free speech, Vietnam, non-violent resistance, student activism. We owe a great deal to Berkeley.

[Link: www.berkeleypubliclibrary.org...]

The mainstream of American politics is moderate-to-conservative, but there is also an important tradition of home-grown radicalism in the United States. Episodic rather than ideological, American radicalism usually appears attached to some great cause such as abolition, women's suffrage, trade union organization or pacifism. Never dominant in these movements, the radical tradition has nevertheless profoundly affected them, and occasionally profoundly affects the society and culture as a whole. Such was the case during "The Sixties," actually a decade stretching from about 1964 to 1974, when the issues of racial justice and the Vietnam War absorbed the nation. It was also an era of social and cultural rebellion against conformity and "the establishment." No place was more affected by the politics and rebellions of these years than Berkeley. The city's image as "the People's Republic of Berzerkeley" derives from this period and probably best expresses the common popular understanding (or misunderstanding) of the experience and heritage of Berkeley in the sixties.

re: #204 yasharki

That makes two of us :)

my first email address was mark@calstate.edu... w00t I worked in the CSU Chancellor's office's main network hub. I was a Usenet admin, sysadm and other fun stuff... I even hosted MUDs... lol

re: #187 Gus 802

Now I don't want to be like China and this is certainly not an endorsement. But remember that nut that killed all of those kids in China not too long ago? They already executed him.

If that's not endorsement what is it?

re: #205 Gus 802

Let us pause to remember Tookie Williams.

//

Hey, he wrote children's books. He was a great guy!
//

re: #202 boxhead

Yes... I mean Unix, and yes, I know AT&T Bell Labs created Unix. I worked on AT&T 3B2 mini computer systems in the late 80's. We used System V Rel 3.2 of the Unix operating system... :) AT&T did not like the fact that BSD unix was very good and being used by folks AT&T would like to charge.

yes... I am a nerd... :)

Never used a 3B2, but the 3B1 was fun, the AT&T Unix PC (aka 7300) was even more fun.

Image: 3b1.gif

Thank god I found Minix around then.

re: #208 recusancy

If that's not endorsement what is it?

It's an example of swift justice in China. Now in this particular case he was caught red handed -- literally. He deserved to be executed. So yes, I am endorsing this particular case. As for the remaining record on China that's a different story altogether.

PayPal downed by ‘hackers’ for Wikileaks censure

In addition to Visa and Mastercard, online payment processing giant PayPal has been knocked offline tonight by a loosely affiliated group of web users protesting the financial restraints placed on the Wikileaks operation.

As of now, Visa is back up and running and Mastercard appears to be mostly operational. However, PayPal is not accessible- although BoingBoing reports that the service is still functioning despite the site outage.

Mashable posted a list of attacks associated with Operation Payback:

* After pulling the plug on payments to WikiLeaks, Mastercard’s website was taken down and remains out of service.
* Senator Joe Lieberman’s website was taken down for 12 minutes (the first .gov site to be attacked).
* Sarah Palin’s website was taken offline by a small group of Anonymous attackers.
* The group sent spam faxes to Joe Lieberman’s office
and to PostFinance.
* PostFinance was attacked the hardest, leaving customers without the ability to conduct online banking.
* They took down the website of the lawyer representing the two women who were allegedly raped/assaulted by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
* The group took down Assange’s Swedish prosecutor’s website.

PayPal has not addressed the outage on their Twitter feed as of yet.

re: #210 wlewisiii

Image: 3b1.gif

Now I know where SUN ripped off their keyboard from.

re: #210 wlewisiii

Never used a 3B2, but the 3B1 was fun, the AT&T Unix PC (aka 7300) was even more fun.

Image: 3b1.gif

Thank god I found Minix around then.

dude... I had a lab of both of those I managed... the first GUI Unix PB... awesome... but horribly slow.

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

* Sarah Palin’s website was taken offline by a small group of Anonymous attackers.

She still has the twitter!

re: #205 Gus 802

Let us pause to remember Tookie Williams.

//

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Obama: Tax deal will look better with more scrutiny

does scrutiny taste like ketchup?

and, um, aren't you supposed to put on the scrutiny BEFORE THE DEAL?

i think it's all cold now...

re: #215 marjoriemoon

She still has the twitter!

Twitter and Facebook will be the next likely targets...

re: #215 marjoriemoon

She still has the twitter!

They are going after Twitter next.

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

PayPal downed by ‘hackers’ for Wikileaks censure

PayPal has not addressed the outage on their Twitter feed as of yet.

Visa, Master Card...

Yawn.

You want to see a revolt? If these guys were to take down porn sites, now THAT would bring all the ninjas out of their...mom's basements.

re: #56 NJDhockeyfan

Now that is just embarrassing. That place has teh crazy.

re: #219 NJDhockeyfan

They are going after Twitter next.

They keep this up they're going to end up hacking themselves.

re: #214 boxhead

dude... I had a lab of both of those I managed... the first GUI Unix PB... awesome... but horribly slow.

You guys sound like dinasours :) The first Unix I had to deal with was Irix on a 16 cpu SGI box, our CSE's pride and joy.

re: #210 wlewisiii

Never used a 3B2, but the 3B1 was fun, the AT&T Unix PC (aka 7300) was even more fun.

Image: 3b1.gif

Thank god I found Minix around then.

oh and the network topology we used was StarLan from AT&T. Some weird hybrid between Ethernet and token ring.

re: #213 yasharki

Now I know where SUN ripped off their keyboard from.

Heh, other way around. The Sun 1 came out in May 1982. The AT&T didnt ship till '85.

re: #222 Gus 802

They keep this up they're going to end up hacking themselves.

They are already, just don't tell them OK?

re: #225 wlewisiii

Heh, other way around. The Sun 1 came out in May 1982. The AT&T didnt ship till '85.

It used a OS based on BSD. Hence the lawsuits later.... :) I liked old SunOS. Solaris embraced the AT&T kernel.

re: #218 Varek Raith

Twitter and Facebook will be the next likely targets...

Oh noesss! My co-op will wither and die!

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

PayPal downed by ‘hackers’ for Wikileaks censure

PayPal has not addressed the outage on their Twitter feed as of yet.

WE WILL CENSOR YOU FOR CENSORING WIKILEAKS!
WE BELIEVE IN OPEN INTERNET!
OPPOSE US AND WE'LL SHUT YOU DOWN!

re: #226 Floral Giraffe

Hello good lady how are ya?

I demand to know the names of the hackers now! I also want their emails and other personal documents! This corruption must end at once and I demand hacker transparency!

//

re: #220 rwmofo

Visa, Master Card...

Yawn.

You want to see a revolt? If these guys were to take down porn sites, now THAT would bring all the ninjas out of their...mom's basements.

It is the Holiday season! If they don't get it fixed soon, it will be a very big deal.

I'll never understand the bloodlust of the conservative mind.

re: #233 recusancy

I'll never understand the bloodlust of the conservative mind.

Yep. Conservative.

re: #228 marjoriemoon

Oh noesss! My co-op will wither and die!

I'll send you something!

re: #223 yasharki

You guys sound like dinasours :) The first Unix I had to deal with was Irix on a 16 cpu SGI box, our CSE's pride and joy.

You might appreciate my secondary system then - an SGI Octane2 with 2xR12k@300, 1gb, 2x73gb, & V8. Alas, my macbook run rings around it but it is even more elegant than a mac which is saying something!

re: #229 Varek Raith

WE WILL CENSOR YOU FOR CENSORING WIKILEAKS!
WE BELIEVE IN OPEN INTERNET!
OPPOSE US AND WE'LL SHUT YOU DOWN!

Once we control the means of production they will have no choice but to service Wikileaks!

//

re: #235 prairiefire

I'll send you something!

hehe Actually, I think it already did. I haven't played in awhile :p

re: #233 recusancy

I'll never understand the bloodlust of the conservative mind.

What bloodlust? Gus was talking about some people who deserved to die and got executed. That's not bloodlust, that's a desire for justice.

re: #224 boxhead

oh and the network topology we used was StarLan from AT&T. Some weird hybrid between Ethernet and token ring.

You have my sincere sympathy. I remember the papers in the Bell journal. I didn't realize that mess ever made it into the wild.

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

What bloodlust? Gus was talking about some people who deserved to die and got executed. That's not bloodlust, that's a desire for justice.

Last I checked the death penalty was still around in California.

re: #240 wlewisiii

You have my sincere sympathy. I remember the papers in the Bell journal. I didn't realize that mess ever made it into the wild.

lol it worked for the setting we had.

re: #224 boxhead

oh and the network topology we used was StarLan from AT&T. Some weird hybrid between Ethernet and token ring.

Not entirely sure what that is, but it sounds....like a bad idea.

re: #237 Gus 802

Once we control the means of production they will have no choice but to service Wikileaks!

//

THE HACKERS ARE MARXISTS!!!11 OBAMA IS LEAGUE WITH THEM TO INSTITUTE SOCIALISM!!1 TUNE IN TO MY NEXT SHOW AT 4PM TO LEARN MORE!!!1 BUY GOLD!11

/Glenn Beck

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

What bloodlust? Gus was talking about some people who deserved to die and got executed. That's not bloodlust, that's a desire for justice.

The death penalty is barbaric. That aside it's the reveling in it. The enthusiasm for it.

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

What bloodlust? Gus was talking about some people who deserved to die and got executed. That's not bloodlust, that's a desire for justice.

But yeah. I always lose my liberal t-shirt when I start talking that way. Used to happen when I would hang out with my obnoxious friends who I soon gave up. It's pretty easy you know. Once you stray from the strict orthodoxy you're either considered a conservative and thence become an outcast from the group.

re: #236 wlewisiii

You might appreciate my secondary system then - an SGI Octane2 with 2xR12k@300, 1gb, 2x73gb, & V8. Alas, my macbook run rings around it but it is even more elegant than a mac which is saying something!

The SGI boxen I was talking about had at least 15 years on Octane2s, but that's not the best piece of hardware I had a privilege of using. My math teacher (I finished highschool in US, just the senior year), managed to acquire a NeXT box somehow, in 1992, that was a thing of beauty!

re: #245 recusancy

The death penalty is barbaric. That aside it's the reveling in it. The enthusiasm for it.

Being flippant doesn't equal enthusiasm. That is you don't necessarily leap from point A to point M as you have.