Inside the Gawker Security Mess

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Forbes writer Daniel Kennedy has one of the best articles I’ve seen yet on the Gawker security mess, and Gawker Media’s failure to deal with it adequately. Kennedy’s piece supplies a lot more detail about the attack than other articles.

The data breach was not limited to Gawker’s user database; apparently the hackers had root access to Gawker’s entire network for at least a month, during which time they grabbed all kinds of stuff, including credentials for internal systems, access to their statistics, a complete dump of their custom source code, a mock-up of a planned redesign, and even FTP logon credentials for other sites Gawker has worked with. And who knows what kind of back doors, booby traps, or other surprises they left behind. In short, this is a real security disaster for Gawker.

To make things worse, it appears that Gawker employees actually noticed that passwords and usernames were appearing on 4chan — and took no action, because they thought it was just Gawker users who had been compromised. The hackers posted the following screen shot of an internal chat session, in which Gawker’s Hamilton Nolan reacts to the news by writing, “oh, well. unimportant.” Gawker’s Richard Lawson then asks, “just the peasants?”

Credit: thenextweb

There are a lot more details in the Forbes article; read the whole thing. Kennedy’s closing paragraphs:

Gawker has written a pretty big check here, compromising the FTP accounts given to them by other companies, as well as any of their users who use the same password on multiple web sites. Since there are plenty of government (including NASA, the social security administration, a UK official, an Australian official, FTC, NARA, USDA, FDA, the Library of Congress, the Senate offices of Olympia Snowe & Bernie Sanders) a number of military, and corporate e-mail addresses in the file dump, further breaches downstream are possible. At the very least a large number of users are going to start receiving new spam e-mail, having had their e-mail address leaked across the Internet.

Besides their users, Gawker has been heavily affected themselves. Gawker Media’s blogs have ceased posting according to an update to Twitter by Jezebel (a Gawker Media blog): “I’d write a post about how we’ve been hacked and can’t publish”. They have lost their source code, leaked an upcoming redesign, had to restore data on at least one server, and have to sweep for any shells the attackers may have left behind. And there is an element of reputation damage in that they experienced a breach of their user’s data.

Despite this, they do not really seem to be acknowledging the scale of what happened. They still try to put some blame back on users, suggesting that if they had a weak password they might be compromised. Well, that really does not make much of a difference when you expose the entire database table and have way too much faith in the 34 year old encryption algorithm reported to be used to safeguard the data. In truth, they had over a month to find this problem but diagnosed the early warning signs in November improperly, were very obviously breached (and told they were breach by others) on Saturday, and it still took until Monday afternoon to say anything to their user base. And in the meantime their representatives were releasing statements via Twitter up until Saturday evening that were either partially or totally incorrect.

Finally, much like the risk equation information security professionals use when deciding what defensive measures to put in place, in essence figuring out if the benefit of a protective measure exceeds its cost (in money, resource time, etc.), attackers are at least subconsciously using a similar mechanism. When people ask how they can be “secure”, experienced information security professionals generally respond there is no way to be one hundred percent secure; that given enough time, expertise, resources, and dedication an attacker can find their way into an environment. Following that, there are a number of examples where antagonizing the population of would be attackers at large can serve as a motivation for them to expend the time necessary to find a way into a system. For example, claiming publicly that something is unhackable is usually a good way to find out that it is. Making unnecessary statements of bravado, statements potentially divorced from reality, changes the equation for an attacker, it suddenly makes compromising your environment worth more of his or her time.

Put another way, thumbing your nose at an entire world’s population of crackers is usually a lousy idea.

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81 comments
1 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:40:30am

Put another way, thumbing your nose at an entire world’s population of crackers is usually a lousy idea.

Charles, I’m sure you’ve put Stinky on counter measures since LGF has levied serious critique of Assange/Wikileaks.

2 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:42:26am
Put another way, thumbing your nose at an entire world’s population of crackers is usually a lousy idea.

THIS. It’s one thing if you have your own web site and enjoy spending time taunting hackers and thwarting them, but when you have users whose data you’re responsible for it quite another matter.

3 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:43:29am
Put another way, thumbing your nose at an entire world’s population of crackers is usually a lousy idea.


[Link: www.angrywhiteboy.org…]

4 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:43:39am
Put another way, thumbing your nose at an entire world’s population of crackers is usually a lousy idea.

I’m really not feeling that sentiment. I mean sure, it’s not a good idea to go around taunting criminals, but does that mean I deserve to get my head stomped in because I stuck my tongue out at some thug?

5 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:44:30am

I love the Peasants…PULL!

Drifted left.

6 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:44:52am

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m really not feeling that sentiment. I mean sure, it’s not a good idea to go around taunting criminals, but does that mean I deserve to get my head stomped in because I stuck my tongue out at some thug?

You may not deserve it… but you’ll more than likely get it… that’s the lesson.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:46:30am

re: #6 Walter L. Newton

You may not deserve it… but you’ll more than likely get it… that’s the lesson.

I had better get to work building an army then, I guess.

8 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:47:58am

Gawker never learned the lesson of Happy Fun Ball.

Do.Not.Taunt.Happy.Fun.Ball.

Now, it looks like everything Gawker has worked on is potentially in the hands of the hackers who broke into the site. Gawker’s security experts are likely in for a real rude awakening - and I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch get fired for their incompetence/failure to contain the problems.

Nick Denton and everyone else involved should also be held responsible.

And Gawker may have financial liabilities if the work being done on other contracted sites gets out in violation of confidentiality agreements.

In sum, it’s a huge mess for the Gawker organization and those emails show a disregard for the customer secuirty.

9 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:48:20am

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m really not feeling that sentiment. I mean sure, it’s not a good idea to go around taunting criminals, but does that mean I deserve to get my head stomped in because I stuck my tongue out at some thug?

I don’t think that’s the point — it’s just an acknowledgment of reality. It’s a little like walking into a KKK meeting and calling them a bunch of dumb racist hicks. You might be right about that, but you also might get an ass-kicking.

10 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:49:44am

re: #8 lawhawk

Gawker’s security experts are likely in for a real rude awakening - and I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch get fired for their incompetence/failure to contain the problems.

I don’t think Gawker had security experts.

11 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:50:24am

re: #9 Charles

You mean I can’t just cite the First Amendment to prevent the blows from landing?

12 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:53:09am

“Just the peasants?”

Indeed let them eat cake!

13 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:57:40am

re: #10 Charles

I don’t think Gawker had security experts.

They couldn’t have, if they were using DES. Or at least, if they did, they may not have actually been alive.

14 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:00:07pm

Check to see if your email is among those hacked via Slate.

15 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:00:24pm

re: #13 Fozzie Bear

They couldn’t have, if they were using DES. Or at least, if they did, they may not have actually been alive.

Zombie security expert say only way to respond to this attack is to track down hackers and eat their BRRRRAAAAINNNSSS!

16 BishopX  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:00:48pm

Anonymous has now declared war on Snow.

Let me be the first to offer snow a safe haven in Massachusetts (where it is currently raining).

17 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:01:51pm

re: #14 lawhawk

Check to see if your email is among those hacked via Slate.

Excellent feature. Thanks for posting it.

18 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:03:08pm

re: #14 lawhawk

Check to see if your email is among those hacked via Slate.

Man, I’m glad I’ve never registered to any Gawker site…I checked anyway, just to be sure.

19 Skeetghazi  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:04:30pm

OT fun

daveweigel

Grassley (voting for the deal) swings back at McCain for criticizing the ethanol subsidy in the deal. “God only made so much fossil fuel!”

20 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:06:04pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

OT fun

daveweigel

Grassley (voting for the deal) swings back at McCain for criticizing the ethanol subsidy in the deal. “God only made so much fossil fuel!”

Chuck Grassley uttering a non sequitur? Astonishing!

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:07:54pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

“God only made so much fossil fuel!”

Yet apparently His supply of idiots and assholes is inexhaustible.

22 recusancy  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:17:13pm

re: #10 Charles

I don’t think Gawker had security experts.

I don’t think they had experts. Period.

23 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:18:46pm

re: #13 Fozzie Bear

They couldn’t have, if they were using DES. Or at least, if they did, they may not have actually been alive.

And to make it even worse, their code was PHP-based, and PHP has much better options for encryption than DES. I’d never use DES for anything except non-critical encryption - it’s been known for a LONG time that it’s easily decrypted.

24 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:19:10pm

re: #10 Charles

I don’t think Gawker had security experts.

If they did, I am sure they are offering Gawker money to not get named.

25 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:19:26pm

re: #24 000G

If they did, I am sure they are offering Gawker money to not get named.

LOL

26 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:21:35pm

re: #25 Fozzie Bear

LOL

Kind of like my Latin teacher, whenever when he was fed up with us students because even at the end of the class we still wouldn’t have whatever lesson down… he would just sigh, groan and begrudgingly let us go only if we promised not to tell who taught us Latin.

His name was Schmidt. :P

27 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:23:18pm

The thing is, you really don’t have very much to fear from hackers if you are using up-to-date tech, and you aren’t running oodles of different services (that you don’t actually need) on the same machine. You can get DOS’ed, sure, but if you do things correctly, you aren’t terribly likely to get hacked.

The VAST majority of “hackers” out there aren’t doing anything other than exploiting already-identified, known vulnerabilities. Some tiny number of them are actually discovering flaws through code injection, buffer overflows, etc, but really, 99.9% of them get in because people use old software and weak passwords.

28 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:24:13pm

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m really not feeling that sentiment. I mean sure, it’s not a good idea to go around taunting criminals, but does that mean I deserve to get my head stomped in because I stuck my tongue out at some thug?

Free tip: Never poke your tongue out in a bikie bar.

29 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:26:26pm

re: #8 lawhawk

Gawker never learned the lesson of Happy Fun Ball.

Do.Not.Taunt.Happy.Fun.Ball.

Now, it looks like everything Gawker has worked on is potentially in the hands of the hackers who broke into the site. Gawker’s security experts are likely in for a real rude awakening - and I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch get fired for their incompetence/failure to contain the problems.

Nick Denton and everyone else involved should also be held responsible.

And Gawker may have financial liabilities if the work being done on other contracted sites gets out in violation of confidentiality agreements.

In sum, it’s a huge mess for the Gawker organization and those emails show a disregard for the customer secuirty.

Hi Lawhawk, do you think this should also be true for the US Govt re wikileaks re security and also financial compensation?

30 researchok  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:26:41pm

For all you technozards out there…

WikiLeaks - the REAL lessons behind the drama

Everyone out there - consider yourselves on notice about privacy, secrecy, security, encryption, data leakage prevention, and the rest of it.

It’s not the data which WikiLeaks leaked, it’s the leak of the WikiLeaks data.

Transcript here.

31 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:26:58pm

re: #26 000G

Kind of like my Latin teacher, whenever when he was fed up with us students because even at the end of the class we still wouldn’t have whatever lesson down… he would just sigh, groan and begrudgingly let us go only if we promised not to tell who taught us Latin.

His name was Schmidt. :P

There’s a trope for that… [Link: tvtropes.org…]

32 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:28:03pm

re: #29 ozbloke

Hi Lawhawk, do you think this should also be true for the US Govt re wikileaks re security and also financial compensation?

Wikileaks doesn’t show a weakness in the password system because it was an internal leak rather than an external hack. However it probably does say somethings about how we need to restructure who has access to what data….

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:28:26pm

re: #28 ozbloke

Now you tell me. Big Bertha didn’t seem to mind, though.

34 funky chicken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:33:42pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.angrywhiteboy.org…]

LOL

35 elizajane  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:34:39pm

The health care thread has died out but, to go OT on this thread for a moment, I don’t think anybody there noted that the Virginia lawsuit was brought by none other than Kenneth Cuccinelli, of “global warming is a hoax, subpoena Michael Mann” fame.

If winning this case where others have lost brings him more fame and power in the Republican party, we’re all losers on more than health care.

36 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:36:58pm

re: #35 elizajane

My favorite post of the HC thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

TOTAL UNABRIDGED OWNAGE

37 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:37:35pm

re: #35 elizajane

The health care thread has died out but, to go OT on this thread for a moment, I don’t think anybody there noted that the Virginia lawsuit was brought by none other than Kenneth Cuccinelli, of “global warming is a hoax, subpoena Michael Mann” fame.

If winning this case where others have lost brings him more fame and power in the Republican party, we’re all losers on more than health care.

the scumbags are really always at work, aren’t they?

38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:40:25pm

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m really not feeling that sentiment. I mean sure, it’s not a good idea to go around taunting criminals, but does that mean I deserve to get my head stomped in because I stuck my tongue out at some thug?

don’t go into south central tossing the N-word around, and don’t taunt /b/tards when you’re one of the most popular blog networks in America.

it’s not “deserve” so much as it’s just a terrible, terrible idea. Regardless of how illegal it is for those guys to hack sites, it seems EASY for them to do.

39 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:42:00pm

More to the point, I think, don’t mock hackers when you clearly have no idea how to properly secure your own system. It’s like begging someone to shoot you while you are wearing a homemade bulletproof vest made out of styrofoam.

40 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:43:09pm

re: #27 Fozzie Bear

The thing is, you really don’t have very much to fear from hackers if you are using up-to-date tech, and you aren’t running oodles of different services (that you don’t actually need) on the same machine. You can get DOS’ed, sure, but if you do things correctly, you aren’t terribly likely to get hacked.

In a perfect world, yeah. But in the real world few organizations implement 100% of the recommendations security experts make, for varying reasons (even though they’re paying a premium for the advice).

41 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:43:39pm

re: #27 Fozzie Bear

The thing is, you really don’t have very much to fear from hackers if you are using up-to-date tech, and you aren’t running oodles of different services (that you don’t actually need) on the same machine. You can get DOS’ed, sure, but if you do things correctly, you aren’t terribly likely to get hacked.

The VAST majority of “hackers” out there aren’t doing anything other than exploiting already-identified, known vulnerabilities. Some tiny number of them are actually discovering flaws through code injection, buffer overflows, etc, but really, 99.9% of them get in because people use old software and weak passwords.

You’re forgetting the easy way to hack: ask (or trick or be) a guy that works there to let you in, virtually or physically. Social engineering. Dudes on /b/ often have jobs in IT!

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:43:54pm

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

More to the point, I think, don’t mock hackers when you clearly have no idea how to properly secure your own system. It’s like begging someone to shoot you while you are wearing a homemade bulletproof vest made out of styrofoam.

heehee

43 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:44:23pm

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

More to the point, I think, don’t mock hackers when you clearly have no idea how to properly secure your own system. It’s like begging someone to shoot you while you are wearing a homemade bulletproof vest made out of styrofoam.

Heh, true that.

44 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:44:44pm

re: #41 WindUpBird

You’re forgetting the easy way to hack: ask (or trick or be) a guy that works there to let you in, virtually or physically. Social engineering. Dudes on /b/ often have jobs in IT!

“Quiet and sneaky is fine if you’re thinking like a thief. Thieves find entrances, but grifters? Uh-uh. We make them.”

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:45:49pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

“Quiet and sneaky is fine if you’re thinking like a thief. Thieves find entrances, but grifters? Uh-uh. We make them.”

from the movie Sneakers: ” It’s fascinating what fifty bucks will get you at the county recorder’s office.”

46 Ericus58  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:45:53pm

From the Forbes article:

“They also determined his password on the campfire team collaboration tool instance used by Gawker (a real time chat utility) and with it extracted 4 gigabytes of Gawker chat logs. From within those chat logs the attackers were able to extract FTP (file transfer protocol) servers, usernames, and credentials for the sites thq.com, valvesoftware, rockstargames, lucasarts, scea, kotaku, and 2kgames.”

Does this indicate a breach for users of those sites as well?

47 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:46:58pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

“Quiet and sneaky is fine if you’re thinking like a thief. Thieves find entrances, but grifters? Uh-uh. We make them.”

I was never gutsy enough to do this, but some of my high school dirtbag garage band friends would basically compete to see who could talk their way backstage at the most concerts. :D

48 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:47:01pm

re: #46 Ericus58

From the Forbes article:

“They also determined his password on the campfire team collaboration tool instance used by Gawker (a real time chat utility) and with it extracted 4 gigabytes of Gawker chat logs. From within those chat logs the attackers were able to extract FTP (file transfer protocol) servers, usernames, and credentials for the sites thq.com, valvesoftware, rockstargames, lucasarts, scea, kotaku, and 2kgames.”

Does this indicate a breach for users of those sites as well?

Does that mean they could have gotten info on you related to those site even if you didn’t have a Gawker account?

49 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:47:38pm

re: #46 Ericus58

From the Forbes article:

“They also determined his password on the campfire team collaboration tool instance used by Gawker (a real time chat utility) and with it extracted 4 gigabytes of Gawker chat logs. From within those chat logs the attackers were able to extract FTP (file transfer protocol) servers, usernames, and credentials for the sites thq.com, valvesoftware, rockstargames, lucasarts, scea, kotaku, and 2kgames.”

Does this indicate a breach for users of those sites as well?

I’m pretty sure Valve doesn’t let Gawker see their passwords ;-)

50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:49:39pm

re: #46 Ericus58

Kotaku otoh IS part of the gawker network.

51 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:51:26pm

re: #46 Ericus58

That just means they have access to those FTP servers— they’ve got the addresses, the passwords, the usernames to get the content.

I’ll be very surprised if Valve—after their embarrassment long ago— has anything interesting there.

52 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:53:46pm

re: #51 Obdicut

But you know that in a lot of os’s the ftp password is the users password by default.

53 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:54:12pm

re: #41 WindUpBird

You’re forgetting the easy way to hack: ask (or trick or be) a guy that works there to let you in, virtually or physically. Social engineering. Dudes on /b/ often have jobs in IT!

Actually had a guy try that. He’s up on charges now.

54 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:54:52pm

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

More to the point, I think, don’t mock hackers when you clearly have no idea how to properly secure your own system. It’s like begging someone to shoot you while you are wearing a homemade bulletproof vest made out of styrofoam.

Then there was the guy who was demonstrating bulletproof vests. He didn’t properly understand what the vests could do and couldn’t do, and he coaxed an audience member to stab at him with a knife.

The knife went right through, and he died.

55 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:55:37pm

re: #52 ozbloke

But you know that in a lot of os’s the ftp password is the users password by default.

One would hope that they created a virtual account for FTP. One would hope.

56 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:56:47pm
57 Ericus58  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:58:28pm

re: #51 Obdicut

That just means they have access to those FTP servers— they’ve got the addresses, the passwords, the usernames to get the content.

I’ll be very surprised if Valve—after their embarrassment long ago— has anything interesting there.

I still have a Valve account from the early days of gaming online with my son . Occasionally access it. Between Gawker and all the rest of the sites possibly involved, that would be the only one I have exposure on.

58 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:58:53pm

re: #55 Fozzie Bear

One would hope that they created a virtual account for FTP. One would hope.

There are a number of widely used control panels in use by hundreds of thousands of isp’s that don’t.

If I can contact you privately I will share one with you.

59 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 12:59:50pm

re: #58 ozbloke

There are a number of widely used control panels in use by hundreds of thousands of isp’s that don’t.

If I can contact you privately I will share one with you.

web hosting companies not ISP’s necessarily, sorry.

60 Skeetghazi  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:02:46pm

re: #56 WindUpBird

OREGON!

Very cool.

61 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:09:21pm

We use EFS encryption at work..Which is pretty secure..unless somebody steals the private key..Then not so much

62 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:11:49pm

re: #61 HoosierHoops

We use EFS encryption at work..Which is pretty secure..unless somebody steals the private key..Then not so much

I have seen these emailed…

63 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:14:35pm

re: #62 ozbloke

I have seen these emailed…

I had a key emailed to me once when I needed it to decrypt an exec’s laptop’s Hard drive for a transfer..
It happens..haha

64 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:17:35pm

LOL I hope you changed the key soon after.

65 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:19:10pm

The worst part about getting a cold isn’t the stuffy nose, it isn’t the fever, it isn’t the headache, and it isn’t the lack of energy.

No, for me the worst part is that everything tastes like cardboard.

66 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:20:07pm

re: #65 Fozzie Bear

The worst part about getting a cold isn’t the stuffy nose, it isn’t the fever, it isn’t the headache, and it isn’t the lack of energy.

No, for me the worst part is that everything tastes like cardboard.

You were suppose to eat the contents, not the packaging, put the box down.

67 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:21:25pm

re: #62 ozbloke

I have seen these emailed…

Heh, same here. And user creds emailed in plain text.

68 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:21:55pm

Jesus at least make a phone call and TELL the person the password.

69 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:21:59pm

re: #65 Fozzie Bear

The worst part about getting a cold isn’t the stuffy nose, it isn’t the fever, it isn’t the headache, and it isn’t the lack of energy.

No, for me the worst part is that everything tastes like cardboard.

I’m home sick today also…I ate a little fish this morning..Watching daytime TV sucks…So I’m watching Dances with wolves for the millionth time..Help me

70 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:23:08pm

OT:
Just great…. I have relatives who attend this school:

Students and staff were evacuated from Livingston High School this afternoon due to a threat found on a bathroom wall, communications manager Jessica Lipper said.

The threat was found around 1 p.m. Officials from the Essex County prosecutor’s office were searching the school campus before re-opening it, Lipper said.

Hopefully it’s nothing more than a student who didn’t want to take an exam, and nothing something more ominous or dangerous. Scary stuff… that’s for sure.

71 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:23:22pm

re: #69 HoosierHoops

I’m home sick today also…I ate a little fish this morning..Watching daytime TV sucks…So I’m watching Dances with wolves for the millionth time..Help me

Turn off the TV and walk away!

72 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:23:42pm

re: #69 HoosierHoops

I’m home sick today also…I ate a little fish this morning..Watching daytime TV sucks…So I’m watching Dances with wolves for the millionth time..Help me

Hahahaha i’m in the same boat. I have a massive stockpile of chicken soup, at least. My wife’s mom is a real (whatever the female equivalent of a mensch is) and made me some when I got sick. God I love that woman.

73 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:25:05pm

re: #68 Fozzie Bear

Jesus at least make a phone call and TELL the person the password.

With 10,000 feet of tape rolling - Arlo Guthrie

74 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:25:22pm

re: #69 HoosierHoops

I’m home sick today also…I ate a little fish this morning..Watching daytime TV sucks…So I’m watching Dances with wolves for the millionth time..Help me

I almost didn’t make it in to work this morning. Lost traction on a patch of ice and spun out across 3 lanes, then came to rest in a snowbank facing oncoming traffic.

Due to some miracle, there was no damage to myself or to my vehicle! I broke a nail.

Some good Samaritans pushed my car out of the snow and I made it in to work like driving on eggshells.

Now for the drive home.

Tomorrow I’m taking Zedushka’s car. It has a wider wheel base, thicker tires and ABS. I’ll just ignore the missing front fender.

75 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:27:24pm

re: #74 Alouette

Boy the Good Lord was looking after you..Be safe tonight going home

76 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:28:00pm

re: #74 Alouette

I almost didn’t make it in to work this morning. Lost traction on a patch of ice and spun out across 3 lanes, then came to rest in a snowbank facing oncoming traffic.

Due to some miracle, there was no damage to myself or to my vehicle! I broke a nail.

Some good Samaritans pushed my car out of the snow and I made it in to work like driving on eggshells.

Now for the drive home.

Tomorrow I’m taking Zedushka’s car. It has a wider wheel base, thicker tires and ABS. I’ll just ignore the missing front fender.

Buy a lottery ticket.

77 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:28:47pm

The Door is open upstairs..See you there!

78 BishopX  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 1:30:11pm

re: #74 Alouette

Drive slow, it matters more that you get there then when.

79 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:29:34pm

As they try and get people to use harder and harder passwords, there are only so many of those things you can remember so of course you start to reuse them.

80 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:15:29pm

RoboForm2Go is your friend.

81 kirkspencer  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:04:48pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

Wikileaks doesn’t show a weakness in the password system because it was an internal leak rather than an external hack. However it probably does say somethings about how we need to restructure who has access to what data…

Counter-intuitively, the best thing we could do would be to quit classifying so much stuff. With so much being classified, everyone needs a clearance to do their jobs. If they have that clearance they can see the stuff that should really have the classification.

Or to rephrase: if everything is secret then nothing is.


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