Just When You Thought Sharron Angle Was Gone (or, The Return of the Loon)

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Bloggers won’t be running out of material any time soon, with the GOP’s goofiest right wing extremist, Sharron Angle, forming a new TeaBagger umbrella group called “Patriot Caucus.”

Former Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle is angling to lead the tea party movement heading into 2012.

Angle over the weekend unveiled the Patriot Caucus, a PAC that she says has the support of tea party organizers in 15 states and which will “organize a ground game across most battleground states for the 2012 election cycle.” The group plans to open offices in Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada – states with early presidential primaries and caucuses – in early 2011.

Here’s their website, created by Eric Odom, with a hideous logo that looks like an explosion in a font factory: The Patriot Caucus PAC.

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369 comments
1 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:38:14pm

First O'Donnell, now Angle. Don't these people get that they really aren't any good at this, and that the longer they try to stay in the spotlight the more damage they do to their cause?

Are there no grownups in that movement?

2 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:41:13pm
a hideous logo that looks like an explosion in a font factory

LMAO! True that.

3 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:41:19pm

This confirms my long held belief to be skeptical of anything with the word "patriot" in the title.

4 jaunte  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:42:38pm

re: #2 CuriousLurker

Beware the vertical ligature patriot!

5 researchok  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:42:58pm

She's circling the drain and doesn't know it.

6 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:44:28pm

SOMEONE STOP HER BEFORE SHE DISCOVERS COMIC SANS!

7 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:46:57pm

re: #4 jaunte

Beware the vertical ligature patriot!

*snort*

8 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:47:06pm

Those "C"s look an awful lot like crescents....
/

9 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:47:43pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SOMEONE STOP HER BEFORE SHE DISCOVERS COMIC SANS!

That's what was missing!

10 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:47:46pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SOMEONE STOP HER BEFORE SHE DISCOVERS COMIC SANS!

I've got $20 that says she thinks a font is a kind of pen.

11 jaunte  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:48:16pm

re: #8 Varek Raith

The whole logo looks like some kind of a Holiday on Ice show.

12 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:48:45pm

re: #4 jaunte

Beware the vertical ligature patriot!

Now all I can see is a giant "j" in the middle of the logo.

13 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:48:50pm

re: #11 jaunte

The whole logo looks like some kind of a Holiday on Ice show.

...from the 70's.
XD

14 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:49:24pm

re: #11 jaunte

The whole logo looks like some kind of a Holiday on Ice show.

Its practically begging to be on a Powerpoint Slide.

15 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:49:47pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

Now all I can see is a giant "j" in the middle of the logo.

I read it as "The Patr Cauc Jots Pac."

16 nines09  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:49:55pm

So she will join This Genius hand in hand staring off into that glorious future they have in mind? Maybe King and Queen?

17 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:50:37pm

re: #13 Varek Raith

...from the 70's.
XD

Is the color teal?
/ I had a teal jumpsuit in the 70's

18 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:50:44pm

Speaking of Has-Beens...

Christine O'Donnell compares Obama tax cut deal to Pearl Harbor attack and Elizabeth Edwards' death

"Tragedy comes in threes," O'Donnell told the audience. "Pearl Harbor, Elizabeth Edwards's passing and Barack Obama's announcement of extending the tax cuts, which is good, but also extending the unemployment benefits."

19 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:51:25pm

The Patriot Caucus logo looks like something from a swinger's resort in Miami circa 1987

20 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:51:58pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of Has-Beens...

Christine O'Donnell compares Obama tax cut deal to Pearl Harbor attack and Elizabeth Edwards' death

I read that a couple of day ago.
Actually, read it multiple times.
My head asploded trying to figure out what those three have in common.

21 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:52:24pm

re: #8 Varek Raith

Those "C"s look an awful lot like crescents...
/

And a STAR too. OMG—look how the O sits on top of the S—it looks like a Muslim in mid-bow during prayer!!11!

22 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:52:29pm

Is it really new? Because the messages on the site are quite old, e.g.:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Or did she just "overtake" some old group?

23 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:52:38pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of Has-Beens...

Christine O'Donnell compares Obama tax cut deal to Pearl Harbor attack and Elizabeth Edwards' death

Lumping Pearl Harbor in with the other two is just strange. Off by decades and 1,000s of deaths. Just weird.

24 KayInMaine  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:53:16pm

What does the big "J" stand for in the logo? Jew? Jester? Joshing ya? Jeb? Not sure!

25 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:53:39pm

re: #15 Charles

I read it as "The Patr Cauc Jots Pac."

Thats silly its, "The Patr jot Cauc Spac"

26 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:54:02pm

re: #24 KayInMaine

What does the big "J" stand for in the logo? Jew? Jester? Joshing ya? Jeb? Not sure!

JIHAD! *gasp, thud*

27 Okami  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:54:53pm

re: #24 KayInMaine

What does the big "J" stand for in the logo? Jew? Jester? Joshing ya? Jeb? Not sure!

The connection between the i and u represents the strenuous connection they have with reality.

28 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:55:46pm

re: #25 ozbloke

Thats silly its, "The Patr jot Cauc Spac"

Dont forget the star

The Patr Jostart Cauc Js Pac.

I think its Welsh, could be Slovakian.

29 elizajane  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:56:12pm

re: #1 garhighway

First O'Donnell, now Angle. Don't these people get that they really aren't any good at this, and that the longer they try to stay in the spotlight the more damage they do to their cause?
?

But they're better at this than at anything else.

Cf. The Fair Christine's previous employment success (< nil). Compare that to her remaining cash at the end of running for the Senate ($1 million).

30 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:56:12pm
31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:56:15pm

re: #22 Sergey Romanov

Is it really new? Because the messages on the site are quite old, e.g.:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Or did she just "overtake" some old group?

I suspect it was "repurposed."

Eric Odom has quite a long history with LGF, by the way. Reginald Perrin can tell you a lot about Odom's involvement with various stalker sites.

32 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:56:54pm

No addresses or WHOIS dumps, please. You can link to a WHOIS page, but don't post it here.

33 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:57:08pm

re: #31 Charles

Thanks, I'll ask him when I see him here.

34 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:57:31pm

re: #32 Charles

No addresses or WHOIS dumps, please. You can link to a WHOIS page, but don't post it here.

Apologies Charles, I wasn't aware.

35 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:57:47pm

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or, a bunch of gaming-o-holics in Vegas are especially fond of their favorite New England football team.

36 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:57:58pm

re: #34 ozbloke

They have names and addresses.

37 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:59:05pm

re: #36 freetoken

They have names and addresses.

I'm accepting of Charles decision, though it is also public information.

My first deletion.

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 2:59:09pm

Some messages there are a hoot:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

(No, I'm not saying they necessarily characterize the whole site, since I don't know whether' it's actively moderated, etc.)

39 recusancy  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:00:02pm

re: #32 Charles

No addresses or WHOIS dumps, please. You can link to a WHOIS page, but don't post it here.

It's done by this guy. [Link: ericjodom.com...]

He's a "libertarian minded web strategist". haha

40 Tigger2005  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:00:13pm

re: #23 garhighway

Lumping Pearl Harbor in with the other two is just strange. Off by decades and 1,000s of deaths. Just weird.

You guys need to subscribe to right-wing e-news mailings like Newsmax and Special Guests, Inc. I guarantee you Christine O'Donnell is reading them.

Their emailing from Tuesday, Dec. 7, uses just this meme. It explicitly compares the health care plan to Pearl Harbor. I have no doubt this is where she picked up this talking point.

The following is the article the e-mail links to, at specialguest.com:


DECEMBER 7, 2010-- Sixty nine years ago today, the Japanese Navy launched a surprise attack on the U.S. military installations on Hawaii. Called “…a day that will live in infamy…” by FDR, the attacks focused on the Naval base at Pearl Harbor and killed more than 2400 Americans.

Available to be your Talk Show interview guest on this subject is Captain Jim Kinney (U.S. Navy ret.), who shares that at the very moment of the attack, Japanese diplomats in Washington were declaring their peaceful intention in the war torn Pacific. The duplicity of the moment has not been lost in history. Captain Kinney contends that President Roosevelt was right when he said Japan “deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.”

Roosevelt continued, saying “Long will we remember the character of the onslaught against us.” And he promised, “I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will see to it that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.”

In a long bitter battle the United States did prevail…and now we must do so again.

Stated Kinney, “March 21, 2010 is also “A day that will live in infamy. That was the day our Congress ‘deliberately sought to deceive us by false statements and expressions of hope’, and, using every deceitful and bullying tactic available, forced upon the American people a bill whose implementation will utterly destroy the greatest health care system in the world.”

“As FDR said to the Japanese, so we say to Congress, ‘Long will we remember the character of your assault against us’. With Roosevelt of 1941, we the people today ‘assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will see to it that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.’”

Captain Kinney puts ‘Progressives’ on notice: “November 2nd was simply the opening battle in our efforts to reclaim our constitutional government and limit your ability to steal our wages, demand we comply with unconstitutional regulations and force a socialist welfare state on our country.”

Kinney concluded, “As Yamamoto said December 7, 1942, when he learned that none of the American carriers were in port, ‘I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant’…so today, we say to our Washington elites…you have awakened a sleeping giant, we the people have joined the fight and things will never be the same again!”

41 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:00:41pm

re: #37 ozbloke

I'm accepting of Charles decision, though it is also public information.

My first deletion.

Just because information is public doesn't mean anyone has to publish it. Cuts down on bad business in the long run.

42 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:01:30pm

re: #40 Tigger2005

Everyone knows the Jews were behind Pearl Harbor.

43 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:02:03pm

BTW, my whole take on Sharron Angle is that she is the perfect result of the nuttiness that is endemic to Vegas and the surrounds. It's a fantasy world propped up by addiction.

Reality is coming their way, though. I've been meaning to post something on Lake Meade, water, and the big problem that is emerging, and with today's special issue of PNAS on Southwestern drought it's probably a good time to do it so if I can I will later.

What Las Vegas is about to experience is their water being cut back (more than the voluntary restrictions to date.) Someday it may just be cut off. Those fantasies, including the "patriotic" ones, are going to come crashing down.

44 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:02:11pm

re: #38 Sergey Romanov

Some messages there are a hoot:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

(No, I'm not saying they necessarily characterize the whole site, since I don't know whether' it's actively moderated, etc.)

O_o

Obama installs Marxist politics into America's STAR TREK-Obama promises are all fabrications-lies-THE TEA PARTY WAGING POLITICAL WAR AGAINST THE OBAMA MARXIST REGIME
45 Tigger2005  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:02:48pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Everyone knows the Jews were behind Pearl Harbor.

Really? I thought it was a Care Bear/Smurf conspiracy.

46 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:03:01pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just because information is public doesn't mean anyone has to publish it. Cuts down on bad business in the long run.

LOOK LOOK!1!
A wikileaks supporter, Oh what we should only publish private information!1!

47 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:03:35pm

re: #44 Varek Raith

TELL EM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR

I'M THE SILVER TONGUE DEVIL THEY WILL BELIEVE ME

RACIST

WE THE PEOPLE

TERRORIST

MUSLIMS

BIRTH CERTIFICATE

BIRTHERS

HOMOSEXUAL PERVERTS

IMMORAL IDEAS A NEW VERSION OF DRUGS SEX ROCK N ROLL LEVELED ON YOUR CHILDREN

FORGERY

HALF WHITE HALF BLACK LINEAGE A MULATTO IN THE WHITE HOUSE LET'S TELL THE TRUTH HERE

NAACP TEA PARTY WHO ARE THE REAL RACIST HERE

ABORTION

THE LEFT DESTROYS ALL VISTAGES OF RESPECT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL

SNOT NOSED JOURNALIST NEED TO BE TAKEN TO THE WOOD SHED

THE LEFT SAY'S WE WANT YOUR CHILDREN

48 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:04:45pm

re: #47 Sergey Romanov

That's some weapon's grade crazy right there.
Yikes!

50 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:05:38pm

re: #40 Tigger2005

You guys need to subscribe to right-wing e-news mailings like Newsmax and Special Guests, Inc.

Do I have to?

Please tell me that I don't have to.

51 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:05:45pm

It gets better (or worse):

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Ladies and Gentlemen of America-these [bigoted word]s can't build a mosque anywhere if our builders unions
our banks-

and our city governments do not support them-

if our trade unions -

carpenters-

brick layers-

electricians-

plumbers-etc refuse to work on the job

this and other Muslim mosques would not and could not be built!!!!!

52 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:06:02pm

re: #45 Tigger2005

Really? I thought it was a Care Bear/Smurf conspiracy.

Why do you think the signal to launch the attack was "TORAH! TORAH! TORAH!"???

53 Tigger2005  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:06:26pm

re: #50 garhighway

Do I have to?

Please tell me that I don't have to.

Know thine enemy.

54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:06:27pm

re: #47 Sergey Romanov

ahahaha only homosexual perverts! Straight perverts are totally cool

55 Michael McBacon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:06:42pm

I'd say the font looks late 70s-early 80s.

"Introducing 'The Patriot Caucus PAC', an exciting new game for the Atari VCS."

56 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:06:44pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Irony: Beck invokes 9-11 in interview with Truther Napolitano

That's not irony. I suspect that's Beck going truther. Anyone know the indecent he's referring too?

57 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:07:22pm

re: #55 UNIXon

I'd say the font looks late 70s-early 80s.

"Introducing 'The Patriot Caucus PAC', an exciting new game for the Atari VCS."

requires paddle controllers

58 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:08:00pm

re: #51 Sergey Romanov

this and other Muslim mosques would not and could not be built!!!

//I wonder if that means Jewish & Christian mosques are okay...

59 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:08:54pm

Copies in case the messages are removed:

[Link: www.webcitation.org...]

[Link: www.webcitation.org...]

60 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:09:19pm

re: #55 UNIXon

I'd say the font looks late 70s-early 80s.

"Introducing 'The Patriot Caucus PAC', an exciting new game for the Atari VCS."

Or 70's TV game show: "Introducing The Patriot Game!

Where participating audience members mangle the Constitution for fun and prizes! And now here's your host, Bob Eubanks!"

61 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:09:21pm

re: #58 CuriousLurker

//I wonder if that means Jewish & Christian mosques are okay...

Muslim Cathedrals are totally ok!
:)

62 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:09:39pm

I lose all respect for someone if I see them put a star in the middle of a circle... the only exception is Captain America.

63 recusancy  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:09:39pm

re: #55 UNIXon

I'd say the font looks late 70s-early 80s.

"Introducing 'The Patriot Caucus PAC', an exciting new game for the Atari VCS."

It's a Bauhaus font. German, 1920's and 1930's.

64 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:09:48pm

re: #57 WindUpBird

Image: dr_02.jpg

65 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:10:31pm

So far we've established the potential existence of Christian mosques for straight perverts. What will the other postings bring us?

66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:10:55pm

re: #64 Obdicut

YES

67 APox  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:11:02pm

"Great, beautiful song. Excellent video! The evil people in charge are destroying America as we watch in horror, powerless to do anything (at least for now!) but we must NEVER stop fighting them! I have never seen elected officials behave like them, it's like they are driven with hate for you and I because we are American citizens. We must rid ourselves of them, vote them out of office, I wish the election were today! Obama, Pelosi, Reid, to name a few, need to be impeached....now! We've never had a president that shows hate for America, the way Obama does. He shows favoritism to Islam and the Muslims and disgust for America. We must cry out to God for His help during this trying time. Jesus Christ is the only way! "

In response to [Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

ROFL.

It's funny listening to that song and then somehow trying to equate what they are talking about to Republican actions in government. The irony is almost too much.

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:12:21pm

A rather unexpected take on Assange:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

69 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:12:32pm

re: #15 Charles

I read it as "The Patr Cauc Jots Pac."

heh.
That's what I saw, too.

70 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:12:54pm

Well, when they say you can leave early because they're ripping out the ceiling, you leave. Later.

71 garhighway  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:13:39pm

Going drinking, then going home.

See y'all.

72 Michael McBacon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:14:54pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

That's not irony. I suspect that's Beck going truther.

He's a step away from Alex Jones.

73 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:14:55pm

Well, it's looking more and more like a sperate political entity to the GOP..... one that could easily launch a splitter candidate of it's own in '12......

(woo-hooo)

74 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:15:32pm

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

A rather unexpected take on Assange:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Some of that is the TeaParty libertarianesque ideology coming through.
Some of it is "Hey! We can use this to bash Obama.
And it may just be what it says.

75 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:16:07pm

anyone else spend the weekend getting worked over by a rhinovirus?

good times.

76 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:16:48pm

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

A rather unexpected take on Assange:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

That's not very surprising to me. Ron Paul, the Birch Society and other extremist right wing groups are pretty supportive of Wikileaks.

77 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:17:24pm

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Since the Health Care Reform Bill is supposed to be about health care...improving it....and the people are supposed to love it so, maybe someone can explain to me:


1. Why it authorizes the formation of an army and


2. What that has to do with health care that anyone wants?


This is a copy of the Senate bill that was approved Sunday night. Pg 1312 is the forces (LINE 13).


[Link: democrats.senate.gov...]


IT LOOKS LIKE B.O. JUST GOT HIS OWN PRIVATE ARMY.

That's a new one for me.

78 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:17:28pm

re: #74 Varek Raith

Some of that is the TeaParty libertarianesque ideology coming through.
Some of it is "Hey! We can use this to bash Obama.
Or it may just be what it says.


Hmmm...
Did my post make sense to anyone else?
It looks odd to me.
:/

79 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:18:14pm

re: #75 Aceofwhat?

anyone else spend the weekend getting worked over by a rhinovirus?

good times.

///Is that where your entire body suddenly realizes that however much it craves Fiscal spending within the bounds of the revenue the government takes in, it also desires to address the social injustices of the American society?

80 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:18:32pm

re: #78 Varek Raith

Hmmm...
Did my post make sense to anyone else?
It looks odd to me.
:/

Makes sense to me.

81 Spocomptonite  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:18:42pm

Their graphic design is almost as bad as their politics. Am I the only one that immediately saw a giant J stand out from their logo and is now incapable of reading it any other way besides, "The PatrJot CaucJs PAC"?

82 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:19:18pm

re: #79 jamesfirecat

///Is that where your entire body suddenly realizes that however much it craves Fiscal spending within the bounds of the revenue the government takes in, it also desires to address the social injustices of the American society?

that's a different affliction, and nearly as difficult to cure/

83 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:19:51pm

Prepare for a major headache.

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Ever stop and ask yourself why it is called the theory of evolution and not the facts of evolution?

Maybe I can share something most folks do not know about, which may be of interest to you.

My background has made me privy to things many folks have absolutely no idea about concerning Nature and mankind.

One part of this involves Electro-magnetic Energy Frequencies, which each Species of animals and plants are part of a Specific Major Frequency and when the Frequency changes there is a Different Species.

These frequencies can be measured and have been by a few privy scientists.

Of course you cannot find this interesting measuring device at the local Monkey shop.

Within each Species there is what we may call Micro-frequencies, which are what allow for the adaptation to the varied environmental conditions a Species may find it's self in giving rise to different colors, shapes etc, but the Species stays the same.

Example: Cows, we have Jersey cows, Holstein cows, Angus cows, etc, but they are still cows.

It is same for the monkey family, all Monkeys.

It is the same for the Bird family, Cat family, dog family etc.

And he goes on and on.

84 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:21:09pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

PS: that's how fucking magnets apparently work.

85 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:21:13pm

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

A rather unexpected take on Assange:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Not surprising to me. As KT has pointed out, these tea partying types are from the Paulian brand of libertarian kookiness, which overlap in their groupings with the anarchists.

86 jaunte  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:21:42pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Privy scientists!

87 APox  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:22:01pm

re: #84 Sergey Romanov

PS: that's how fucking magnets apparently work.

What's their specific major frequency?!

/

88 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:22:37pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Prepare for a major headache.

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

And he goes on and on.

"Ever stop and ask yourself why it is called the theory of evolution and not the facts of evolution?"

Stop right there.

Its also called "the theory of gravity".

If you have any other answer I invite you to disprove gravity by jumping off a cliff.

89 Michael McBacon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:22:50pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Prepare for a major headache.

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

And he goes on and on.

This is hilarious, well worth the headache.

90 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:23:19pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Is there a point at the end and how the micro electricity or whatever it was disproves evolution?

91 APox  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:24:01pm

But before you make fun of electro-magnet guy:

[Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com...]

92 jaunte  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:24:04pm

re: #90 jamesfirecat

Don’t you want to be one of their Socialists Monkey Nuts only getting to eat the Rotten Nuts they decide to throw you?


The response can only be 'monkey nuts.'

93 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:24:18pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

pseudo-scientific (and that's being kind) writing where random nouns are capitalized reminds me so much of 19th-century travelling potion salesman adverts...

94 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:24:49pm

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

A rather unexpected take on Assange:

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

Its not an uncommon meme:
Rudd blames US, not Assange for leaks

95 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:24:55pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Prepare for a major headache.

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

And he goes on and on.

Oh brother. Not unusual, though. You can find this kind of nutty stuff at any Tea Party site.

96 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:25:03pm

re: #86 jaunte

Privy scientists!

Either royal household wonks of the 1500s, or the NASA guys working on the Orbital Outhouse project.

97 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:26:39pm

re: #94 ozbloke

Its not an uncommon meme:
Rudd blames US, not Assange for leaks

I honestly don't see anything too wrong with that meme.

Its not like Assange stole the data... if whoever leaked it too him had really wanted to leak it, then it would have gotten out one way or another.

98 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:28:19pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Have you read Conservopedia's take on the Theory of Relativity?
Rofl...

99 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:28:32pm

re: #91 APox

But before you make fun of electro-magnet guy:

[Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com...]

the comment section is entertaining. i'm inclined to agree with the guy who sees no soul in his dog every time it poops in the house. i like our dog fine, but when i look in her eyes, all i see is a desire to poop, eat and sleep.

100 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:28:44pm

re: #97 jamesfirecat

And again, I think this overlooks the human elements of the leak. Manning could have leaked it through alternate means. He did it through Assange. The people involved matter.

101 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:29:14pm

re: #97 jamesfirecat

I honestly don't see anything too wrong with that meme.

Its not like Assange stole the data... if whoever leaked it too him had really wanted to leak it, then it would have gotten out one way or another.

Are we convinced that Assange didn't coerce Manning?
I would like to know more about that before I make any conclusions.

102 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:29:27pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Prepare for a major headache.

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

And he goes on and on.

Holy cow.
That's one of the stupidest and also one of the most badly written things I've ever read.

103 AK-47%  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:29:37pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

This person does not have the basic grasp of science to understand what a hypothesis and what a theory is. This is the sort of mental swampland that allows this sort of thinking to flourish in America.

104 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:31:22pm

re: #101 ozbloke

Are we convinced that Assange didn't coerce Manning?
I would like to know more about that before I make any conclusions.

I would like to know more as well.

I've heard that Assange was in contact with Manning before the leaks took place, but unless Assange was holding Manning's family hostage, I don't especially expect to be swayed by the argument that Assange was anything more than the catalyst to Manning's actions.

Once again assuming that Manning is the guilty party which hasn't been proven yet...

105 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:32:12pm

A tragedy:

Storm threatens Herod's port

A massive storm that battered the eastern Mediterranean destroyed the breakers protecting the Roman-era port of Caesarea, threatening to wash away the historic site, Israeli officials said.

"Now the port is exposed to the full force of the waves," said Zeev Margalit, the head of development and preservation at the Israel Nature and Parks Authority.

"It is a matter of time until it all collapses."

More at the link.

106 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:32:28pm

re: #102 reine.de.tout

Holy cow.
That's one of the stupidest and also one of the most badly written things I've ever read.

It's so bad it's g^H ... it's just bad. But funny. Holy cow also has her private microfrequency.

107 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:33:16pm

re: #106 Sergey Romanov

It's so bad it's g^H ... it's just bad. But funny. Holy cow also has her private microfrequency.

Wonder what the person thinks of the Theory of Gravity, considering that we don't fully understand it.
XD

108 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:33:57pm

re: #104 jamesfirecat

I would like to know more as well.

I've heard that Assange was in contact with Manning before the leaks took place, but unless Assange was holding Manning's family hostage, I don't especially expect to be swayed by the argument that Assange was anything more than the catalyst to Manning's actions.

Once again assuming that Manning is the guilty party which hasn't been proven yet...

You reckon Manning (if guilty) isn't thinking, 'What the fu@* have I done' now?

Odds on he will be looking for some type of deal, I would.

109 Tigger2005  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:34:13pm

re: #103 ralphieboy

This person does not have the basic grasp of science to understand what a hypothesis and what a theory is. This is the sort of mental swampland that allows this sort of thinking to flourish in America.

I honestly don't know how people whose thinking is so muddled manage to function. Maybe they don't. I don't know. But it's clear that not everybody who thinks like this lives in his mother's basement. They are out there running for office. And winning.

I guess they are able to compartmentalize and think rationally enough in a few basic areas to get by.

110 Aye Pod  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:34:28pm

re: #75 Aceofwhat?

anyone else spend the weekend getting worked over by a rhinovirus?

good times.

Luckily for me, not at the moment. I had a particularly interesting one a couple of years back, though. It affected my hearing in a strange way, making music sound horribly out of tune and voices sound like daleks. The effect lasted for a couple of days.

111 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:35:24pm

re: #110 Jimmah

Luckily for me, not at the moment. I had a particularly interesting one a couple of years back, though. It affected my hearing in a strange way, making music sound horribly out of tune and voices sound like daleks. The effect lasted for a couple of days.

nah, you just left your radio on a hardcore dance music station............

112 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:35:38pm

re: #43 freetoken

BTW, my whole take on Sharron Angle is that she is the perfect result of the nuttiness that is endemic to Vegas and the surrounds. It's a fantasy world propped up by addiction.

Reality is coming their way, though. I've been meaning to post something on Lake Meade, water, and the big problem that is emerging, and with today's special issue of PNAS on Southwestern drought it's probably a good time to do it so if I can I will later.

What Las Vegas is about to experience is their water being cut back (more than the voluntary restrictions to date.) Someday it may just be cut off. Those fantasies, including the "patriotic" ones, are going to come crashing down.

This is the first small shoot of a tree that will grow much bigger and bear bitter fruit. As temperatures drift higher and precipitation tends more to come as rain and less as snow, water supplies will get increasingly tight.

For a while, cities such as Las Vegas will cope by reducing their water use. Xeriscaping, reduced-flow toilets, washing machinery that uses less water, and so forth will be put in place.

The best way to move this along would be to price water however high it has to go to drive demand down to meet the supply, but even Republicans lack the moral courage to bear bad news to the voters. Instead, the job will be accomplished by the less efficient and more disruptive expedient of rationing.

Las Vegas, and the West generally, face another problem. Cities that live by cheap transportation for light and casual purposes die by expensive transportation. Cities where everything is far from everything else are in that much worse a fix.

The decline and fall of this sector of the nation will drive millions to seek for human-driven explanations for the slow disaster, rather than look the facts in the face: exhaustion of oil+AGW=trouble.

And we in this country will be far less hard hit than many. The first few decades of a disaster that can assume near-comic dimensions, or be the ruin of our civilization, are pretty much baked in the cake. After that, what will happen will depend on what we do in the meantime.

Bangladesh is in for it. So is Pakistan, it would seem. China, Vietnam, Australia, India perhaps? And random other places that if we could simulate the climate well enough, we'd be able to name, but as it is, we just know the tornado will put down here and there and deal out random destruction.

113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:35:58pm

re: #98 Varek Raith

Have you read Conservopedia's take on the Theory of Relativity?
Rofl...

Yeah. There are a lot of people trying to refute Einstein.

114 AK-47%  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:36:35pm

re: #109 Tigger2005


I fear it is because American schools have been neglecting teaching the basics, like what comprises a scientific theory, the difference between an historical document, a written history and a work of fiction, and how to form coherent arguments and debate them.

We will pay the price for these omissions. Or rather, we are paying the price as we speak...

115 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:36:54pm

re: #110 Jimmah

Luckily for me, not at the moment. I had a particularly interesting one a couple of years back, though. It affected my hearing in a strange way, making music sound horribly out of tune and voices sound like daleks. The effect lasted for a couple of days.

i'd have taken that...mine started on Friday, and flying back home, i had a helluva time equalizing the pressure in my head on the way down. eardrum rupture would definitely have added insult to injury, but i finally yawned just the right way and escaped with my hearing intact.

116 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:37:21pm

re: #113 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. There are a lot of people trying to refute Einstein.

Einstein ruined my dream for an FTL stardrive.
:P

117 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:38:14pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Einstein ruined my dream for an FTL stardrive.
:P

Damn Albert!

*yells at a cloud*

118 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:38:53pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Einstein ruined my dream for an FTL stardrive.
:P

your's - maybe. me? - i'm jumping in less than 30 seconds with the damn cylons hot on my trail. again.

laters.

119 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:39:42pm

re: #118 wozzablog

your's - maybe. me? - i'm jumping in less than 30 seconds with the damn cylons hot on my trail. again.

laters.

Beware of their...Plan.

120 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:40:14pm

re: #117 Sergey Romanov

Damn Albert!

*yells at a cloud*

Image: grandpa_simpson_yelling_at_cloud_001.jpg

121 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:41:08pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

That's what I meant, ty. :)

122 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:42:15pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Einstein ruined my dream for an FTL stardrive.
:P

he's also the enemy of UFO enthusiasts everywhere...(full disclosure: i am not a member of that particular club)

123 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:42:18pm

re: #121 Sergey Romanov

That's what I meant, ty. :)

Oh.
Yes.
I, uh, knew that.
:)

124 Spocomptonite  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:42:45pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

Prepare for a major headache.

[Link: www.thepatriotcaucus.net...]

And he goes on and on.

GAAAA. This is like arguing that American cities are in America because they are American. International borders, like animal classes, are arbitrary human constructs to help us explain, sort, and differentiate aspects of the world around us.
I mean, yes, there is science to the classification of living things, but my point is that our current classifications are trying to explain the complexity of nature. They seem to be arguing that nature bases itself upon our classification.

But I guess this kind of ignorance I should expect from what I'm not going to phonetically call "The Pater-Jot Cock-Js" political action committee. Stupid logo.

125 webevintage  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:42:58pm

There is lots o' cash to be made from a PAC if you know what you are doing....

126 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:43:44pm

re: #112 lostlakehiker

Even if the Southwest had many of the wettest years on record of the past century we would still run out of water.

There are just too many people expecting to live off of the Colorado River.

(But don't tell the real estate agents in Vegas - according to them it's easy sailing ahead.)

Now, compound that fact (of too many people) with the aperiodic but deep droughts endemic to the region, and on top of that higher temperatures (global warming) which causes even more loss due to evaporation - what we end up with is tough times for many people that has the potential to bring down the major cities out here.

We've gotten to the point where the Corp of Engineers is discussing destroying Lake Powell. The current outflow of Lake Powell is insufficient and to increase the outflow new outlets will have to be burrowed. Eventually, and I think this is a real possibility before the end of this decade, the damn-system that was created to make Lake Powell will just be demolished. They'll do that to try and keep the power generators going at Hoover Dam besides having Lake Meade's water level high enough for Las Vegas to pump water.

127 Spocomptonite  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:44:36pm

re: #124 Spocomptonite

But I guess this kind of ignorance I should expect from what I'm now going to phonetically call "The Pater-Jot Cock-Js" political action committee.

Typo. Gives it a different meaning than what I intended.

128 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:45:11pm

re: #119 Varek Raith

Beware of their...Plan.

Always.

129 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:46:05pm

Theory of gravity?

Ever stop and ask yourself why it is called the theory of gravity and not the facts of gravity?

Maybe I can share something most folks do not know about, which may be of interest to you.

My background has made me privy to things many folks have absolutely no idea about concerning Nature and mankind.

One part of this involves Electro-magnetic Energy Frequencies, which each planet and moon is part of a Specific Major Frequency and when the Frequency changes there is a Different Frequency.

These frequencies can be measured and have been by a few privy scientists.

Of course you cannot find this interesting measuring device at the local telescope shop.

Within each System there is what we may call Micro-systems, which are what allow for the adaptation to the varied gravitational conditions a System may find it's self[sic] in giving rise to different colors, shapes, phases etc, but the System stays the same.

Example: we have Europa, Io, etc. but they are all still moons of Jupiter.

It is same for the Saturn family, all Saturns.

It is the same for the Asteroid family, all asteroids.

The Earth family is a Specific family of planet and moon and by Nature can never grow from capture of members of any other family Naturally.

This means the idea of Natural Accretion is Impossible for one Specific System to produce another System. Who has ever seen a bunch of asteroids accrete to form a moon, or a bunch of moons accrete to form a planet? Rocks don't just fall from the sky!!!!!!!!!! !!! !!!! !!!!!!!

Gravity is just a False theory of Religion that Liberals worship! Did the Liberals have you Fooled into believing they had Separation between Religion and State or Government?

In Fact Gravity is one of the Biggest Lies the Liberals are Brainwashing our Kids with in the National schools of America.

The REAL REASON things fall down is because downness is their NATURE. They have an affinity for members of their System sharing the Same FReeuquencies.

130 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:47:05pm

night all.

131 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:48:33pm

'Raging centre' courts US voters

Powerful voices in the United States have combined to launch a new moderate political movement aimed at curbing the partisan nature of politics.

Calling itself No Labels, the movement is a coalition of moderate politicians and activists who want to reward political figures who are willing to compromise.

No Labels hopes to tap into voter disenchantment with political extremism and says it will score politicians' performances based on their civility and ability to reach beyond the Democrat and Republican party machines.

Seen by some as an antidote to the grassroots conservative Tea Party movement, No Labels has endorsements from both sides of politics, with figures like New York mayor Michael Bloomberg and retiring Democrat senator Evan Bayh offering their support.

More at link.

132 Spocomptonite  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:48:37pm

re: #129 lostlakehiker

Props. You get them. Nice rewording.

133 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:52:28pm

re: #131 ozbloke

'Raging centre' courts US voters

Powerful voices in the United States have combined to launch a new moderate political movement aimed at curbing the partisan nature of politics.

Calling itself No Labels, the movement is a coalition of moderate politicians and activists who want to reward political figures who are willing to compromise.

No Labels hopes to tap into voter disenchantment with political extremism and says it will score politicians' performances based on their civility and ability to reach beyond the Democrat and Republican party machines.

Seen by some as an antidote to the grassroots conservative Tea Party movement, No Labels has endorsements from both sides of politics, with figures like New York mayor Michael Bloomberg and retiring Democrat senator Evan Bayh offering their support.

More at link.

Proof will be in the social politics. It's sort of harder to split the difference on the social side of thingd

134 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:54:35pm

re: #133 WindUpBird

How's Windsagio doing?

135 Lidane  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:57:48pm

re: #3 freetoken

This confirms my long held belief to be skeptical of anything with the word "patriot" in the title.

Anything that says Patriot, Family, Values, or Liberty in its name immediately gets the side eye from me.

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:57:57pm

re: #134 Varek Raith

How's Windsagio doing?

he's fine! Busy with work, visiting his sister and his niece a lot.

137 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:58:09pm

re: #133 WindUpBird

Proof will be in the social politics. It's sort of harder to split the difference on the social side of thingd

I'm guessing it will please the 33% who are the middle and piss off 66% of the people.

For the math 1% can be apathetic.

138 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:58:23pm

re: #129 lostlakehiker

Theory of gravity?

Ever stop and ask yourself why it is called the theory of gravity and not the facts of gravity?

Maybe I can share something most folks do not know about, which may be of interest to you.

My background has made me privy to things many folks have absolutely no idea about concerning Nature and mankind.

One part of this involves Electro-magnetic Energy Frequencies, which each planet and moon is part of a Specific Major Frequency and when the Frequency changes there is a Different Frequency.

These frequencies can be measured and have been by a few privy scientists.

Of course you cannot find this interesting measuring device at the local telescope shop.

Within each System there is what we may call Micro-systems, which are what allow for the adaptation to the varied gravitational conditions a System may find it's self[sic] in giving rise to different colors, shapes, phases etc, but the System stays the same.

Example: we have Europa, Io, etc. but they are all still moons of Jupiter.

It is same for the Saturn family, all Saturns.

It is the same for the Asteroid family, all asteroids.

The Earth family is a Specific family of planet and moon and by Nature can never grow from capture of members of any other family Naturally.

This means the idea of Natural Accretion is Impossible for one Specific System to produce another System. Who has ever seen a bunch of asteroids accrete to form a moon, or a bunch of moons accrete to form a planet? Rocks don't just fall from the sky!!! !!! !!! !!!

Gravity is just a False theory of Religion that Liberals worship! Did the Liberals have you Fooled into believing they had Separation between Religion and State or Government?

In Fact Gravity is one of the Biggest Lies the Liberals are Brainwashing our Kids with in the National schools of America.

The REAL REASON things fall down is because downness is their NATURE. They have an affinity for members of their System sharing the Same FReeuquencies.

Gravity lies. Gravity lies all the time.

It lied to me this morning when I got on the scale.

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 3:58:25pm

re: #135 Lidane

Anything that says Patriot, Family, Values, or Liberty in its name immediately gets the side eye from me.

yeah, no kidding

140 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:00:27pm

re: #135 Lidane

Anything that says Patriot, Family, Values, or Liberty in its name immediately gets the side eye from me.

Patriotic Families for Values and Liberty!

141 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:01:23pm

re: #3 freetoken

This confirms my long held belief to be skeptical of anything with the word "patriot" in the title.

Last refuge of a scoundrel and all that.

142 bubba zanetti  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:02:12pm

re: #15 Charles

Paint my cock with a jock strap?

143 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:02:35pm

re: #142 bubba zanetti

Well hello there.

144 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:03:10pm

re: #143 Obdicut

Well hello there.

Lol.

145 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:03:33pm

re: #142 bubba zanetti

four martinis in already?

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:04:20pm

re: #145 Aceofwhat?

four martinis in already?


work is the curse of the drinking class

147 darthstar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:04:24pm

Wow...talk about giving.

Youtube Video
148 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:04:25pm

re: #145 Aceofwhat?

If you look at the post he's responding to, it actually make sense in context.

But it's funnier pretending it doesn't have any.

149 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:04:58pm

re: #147 darthstar

I love that dude. I've been showing him to everyone.

He is totally violating the fuck out of caste rules, too. Good for him.

150 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:06:47pm

re: #146 WindUpBird

work is the curse of the drinking class

Well, if you join the Patriotic Families for Values and...uhhh...Judean... whatever, we'll let you in to our Insider's Mercantile Gold Society, at the vastly discounted price of $79,990...you'll never have to work again!

151 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:06:49pm

re: #83 Sergey Romanov

re: #98 Varek Raith

This stuff would be funny were it not a.) mind numbingly poorly written and b.) sad.
I did particularly like the Conservapedia article section on the political implications of relativity.

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:07:31pm

re: #150 Aceofwhat?

Well, if you join the Patriotic Families for Values and...uhhh...Judean... whatever, we'll let you in to our Insider's Mercantile Gold Society, at the vastly discounted price of $79,990...you'll never have to work again!

I can ride the rails!

153 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:08:11pm

re: #147 darthstar

He also is really doing much more good by giving the physical touch, as well, and the respect; Sapolsky's research has shown much of the poor health that the poor and indigent suffer isn't from lack of food and medical care, but from rampaging cortisone due to the humiliation and stress that being poor has. Being given respect and, yes, love, can help that enormously.

154 KayInMaine  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:09:02pm

re: #26 CuriousLurker

JIHAD! *gasp, thud*

Ah ha! That's it! Oh for the love of the Banana Cupcakes....

155 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:09:49pm

re: #113 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. There are a lot of people trying to refute Einstein.

That's not an attempted refutation. It's an illiterate pastiche. Real technical articles go somewhere. This one just pecks away at the fact that relativity isn't a perfect theory of everything, and is therefore not The Cosmic Truth.

What relativity is, is a very good way of looking at physics situations in which something reasonably big is either going really fast, or is really really big.

In its sphere, relativity gives an amazingly good match to observations. It's also been studied mathematically and it holds together.

The notion that there's something screwy about relativity because it rejects gravitational action at a distance is screwy. Relativity also rejects electrostatic action at a distance, and behold, we get an explanation of electromagnetic waves. They're a side effect of the finite speed of light, plus electrostatics.

By analogy, the logical thing to do is to reject gravitational action at a distance, and expect gravitomagnetic waves. And behold, these are not so easily measured. But rapidly rotating, very dense systems lose energy at a rate nicely consistent with what theoretical computations give for their gravitomagnetic radiation.

In other words, the places where they say relativity fails, are in fact places where it's a magnificent triumph.

Humph. Refutation my ----.

156 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:09:53pm

re: #148 Obdicut

If you look at the post he's responding to, it actually make sense in context.

But it's funnier pretending it doesn't have any.

i also realized that while we drop the f-bomb around here quite a bit (you're a virtuoso, and i apologize in advance for the backhand in that compliment), we less often make graphic reference to our genitalia. funny how "graphic" depends so heavily on familiarity.

157 palomino  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:10:20pm

There's no red or navy blue in that logo. And they call themselves patriots? What a bunch of frauds.

158 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:11:35pm

re: #147 darthstar

Wow...talk about giving.


[Video]

Damm you LGF, why not more than one upding.

159 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:11:41pm

And look how feminine the font of "the" is. Real patriots are manly!!!!

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:13:54pm

Haru Mamburu

Youtube Video
161 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:13:54pm

re: #153 Obdicut

He also is really doing much more good by giving the physical touch, as well, and the respect; Sapolsky's research has shown much of the poor health that the poor and indigent suffer isn't from lack of food and medical care, but from rampaging cortisone due to the humiliation and stress that being poor has. Being given respect and, yes, love, can help that enormously.

That's what I found moving about it. (I saw it on Killgore's Page, which gives the opportunity for more dings...) He doesn't drop off a sandwich, he feeds people with his own fingers, after they get a big hug and smile. After cooking the food himself.

162 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:15:41pm

re: #158 ozbloke

Damm you LGF, why not more than one upding.

I keep staring at the video, trying to figure out how to donate to this man's cause. That's why.

163 compound idaho  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:16:45pm

re: #138 EmmmieG

gravity sucks!

164 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:17:21pm

re: #161 wrenchwench

Thanks for the heads up.

165 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:17:57pm

re: #147 darthstar

Wow...talk about giving.


[Video]

What a good man.
No matter what his faults and sins are - this is a good man.
Wow.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:18:51pm

re: #1 garhighway

First O'Donnell, now Angle. Don't these people get that they really aren't any good at this, and that the longer they try to stay in the spotlight the more damage they do to their cause?

Are there no grownups in that movement?

To them, 'grownup' equals 'RINO'.

167 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:20:05pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of Has-Beens...

Christine O'Donnell compares Obama tax cut deal to Pearl Harbor attack and Elizabeth Edwards' death

Wait...tragedies come in threes, and we've been waiting since Pearl Harbor for this week to finish the trio?

168 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:21:37pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

To them, 'grownup' equals 'RINO'.

yes, a thousand times, yes, exactly.

169 ozbloke  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:21:44pm

re: #162 EmmmieG

I keep staring at the video, trying to figure out how to donate to this man's cause. That's why.

Maybe here: [Link: www.akshayatrust.org...]

170 allegro  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:22:19pm

re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyone who believes that unemployment benefits in an economy without jobs is a tragedy is just plain evil.

171 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:22:52pm

re: #165 reine.de.tout

What a good man.
No matter what his faults and sins are - this is a good man.
Wow.


You took the words right out of my mouth -Wow, just wow. And, what a good man

172 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:23:41pm

re: #58 CuriousLurker

//I wonder if that means Jewish & Christian mosques are okay...

You laugh, but I used to teach at a synagogue in London called the St. John's Wood Jewish Synagogue.

I always wondered if this was to distinguish it from the St. John's Wood Buddhist Synagogue.

(It was quite near a very large mosque, whose congregants I rode the bus with from Camden Town, but no one ever seemed confused about where to go.)

173 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:23:44pm

re: #170 allegro

Anyone who believes that unemployment benefits in an economy without jobs is a tragedy is just plain evil.

Or is so mentally feeble that she will just repeat verbatim whatever her handlers tell her

174 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:24:17pm

Going where no human made object has gone before:

The wind is no longer at Voyager’s back

Voyager 1 is one of the most successful space missions of all time. Launched in 1977, it visited Jupiter and then Saturn, providing better close-ups of the two planets than had ever been seen before.

But it sailed on, crossing the orbits of both Uranus and Neptune (a sister craft, Voyager 2, actually flew by the two planets). Over all those years, there has been one constant in the Voyager flight: the solar wind blowing past it. This stream of subatomic particles leaves the Sun at hundreds of kilometers per second, much faster than Voyager. But now, after 33 years, that has changed: at 17 billion kilometers (10.6 billion miles) from the Sun, the spacecraft has reached the point where the solar wind has slowed to a stop. Literally, the wind is no longer at Voyager’s back.

[...]

In a few years Voyager will truly enter interstellar space - more at NASA:

[...]
Scientists believe Voyager 1 has not crossed the heliosheath into interstellar space. Crossing into interstellar space would mean a sudden drop in the density of hot particles and an increase in the density of cold particles. Scientists are putting the data into their models of the heliosphere's structure and should be able to better estimate when Voyager 1 will reach interstellar space. Researchers currently estimate Voyager 1 will cross that frontier in about four years.

[...]

175 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:24:22pm

re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist

You laugh, but I used to teach at a synagogue in London called the St. John's Wood Jewish Synagogue.

I always wondered if this was to distinguish it from the St. John's Wood Buddhist Synagogue.

(It was quite near a very large mosque, whose congregants I rode the bus with from Camden Town, but no one ever seemed confused about where to go.)

I bought so many albums when I was at Camden Town *_*

176 elizajane  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:25:13pm

re: #113 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. There are a lot of people trying to refute Einstein.

Next they'll all take on Newton and go jumping out of trees (or, preferably, off cliffs) because gravity is, after all, only a THEORY.

Lemmings.

177 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:26:23pm

re: #147 darthstar

Wow...talk about giving.


[Video]

re: #165 reine.de.tout

What a good man.
No matter what his faults and sins are - this is a good man.
Wow.

Verily I say
unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these
my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

This guy's a Hindu, but he's a better Christian, without trying to be and without professing any such belief, than most of us who do try, at least a little.

As to how to give to his cause, specifically, I've not a clue. But his cause is not his alone, and the Salvation Army runs a reasonably tight ship. They don't siphon off hardly anything for administrative costs. And their kettles are everywhere. Just drop in a bigger bill than you might normally, and it's done.

178 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:26:27pm

Oh, hell.

@jaketapper
Jake Tapper
ABC News has learned that Richard Holbrooke has died.
179 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:26:37pm

re: #113 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. There are a lot of people trying to refute Einstein.

Unfortunately, the ones at Conservapedia know jack about physics, which may make the task slightly harder.

180 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:27:16pm

re: #177 lostlakehiker

re: #165 reine.de.tout

This guy's a Hindu, but he's a better Christian, without trying to be and without professing any such belief, than most of us who do try, at least a little.

As to how to give to his cause, specifically, I've not a clue. But his cause is not his alone, and the Salvation Army runs a reasonably tight ship. They don't siphon off hardly anything for administrative costs. And their kettles are everywhere. Just drop in a bigger bill than you might normally, and it's done.

Salvation Army does do excellent work.
I put a $5 into every kettle I pass during Christmas season.

181 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:27:27pm

re: #178 reine.de.tout

I'm truly sorry to hear that.

182 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:27:56pm

Poe's law, elizajane, Poe's law.

[Link: toddcwood.blogspot.com...]

The first was a talk by E. Michael Jones, who actually has a Wikipedia page. In the program, he was described as "Catholic scholar and writer, specializing in historical analysis." The title of his presentation was "English Ideology, Newton & the Exploitation of Science."

The argument goes something like this: We know that Darwin was inspired by the economics of his day, since he took the inspiration for natural selection from Malthus. So too, Newton was inspired by the economics of his day in developing his physics, or to put it in other terms, "Newtonian physics is likewise a projection of economics on nature." With Newtonian physics, motion was no longer an intrinsic drive or teleological. Motion was imposed on objects from outside "forces," the idea for which Jones said came from English capitalism. Jones spent a lot of time describing Newton's life and how the Whigs of the day could exploit this notion of externally-imposed force to political advantage.

183 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:28:28pm

re: #75 Aceofwhat?

anyone else spend the weekend getting worked over by a rhinovirus?

good times.

I got lucky and missed Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday because of it.

184 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:28:34pm

re: #178 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell.

Damn.

185 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:28:35pm

re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist

You laugh, but I used to teach at a synagogue in London called the St. John's Wood Jewish Synagogue.

. . .

LOL.
How did that happen?
Name of the neighborhood or area?

186 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:29:10pm

The REAL REASON things fall down is because downness is their NATURE. They have an affinity for members of their System sharing the Same FReeuquencies

this, of course, explains why the earth will come apart if an augmented fourth is sounded

187 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:30:20pm

re: #180 reine.de.tout

Salvation Army does do excellent work.
I put a $5 into every kettle I pass during Christmas season.

My kids hated me this weekend when I gave them a dollar each to give to the Salvation Army guy and then didn't have a dollar to give them to the girl offering a cupcake for a dollar donation.

188 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:30:32pm

re: #185 reine.de.tout

LOL.
How did that happen?
Name of the neighborhood or area?

LOL, it took me a couple of minutes to process that too.

189 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:30:59pm

re: #177 lostlakehiker

Our Catholic kids worked with a Salvation Army mobile team on Katrina. They have a slight touch of fanaticism that keeps them honest. (Love 'em, but I'm still not putting anything in a bellringer's bucket before Thanksgiving.)

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:31:34pm

re: #185 reine.de.tout

LOL.
How did that happen?
Name of the neighborhood or area?

Yeah, it's what the neighborhood is called. Non-Orthodox synagogues, and some Orthodox ones, in Britain, don't tend to give synagogues Hebrew names the way we do in the states. And St. John's Wood is a classy address, so they wanted everyone to know.

191 freetoken  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:32:25pm

Fine arts are optional in the Great Recession:

Judge OKs Honolulu Symphony's request to liquidate

A U.S. bankruptcy court judge has approved a request by the Honolulu Symphony to liquidate, bringing an end to the nation's oldest symphony west of the Rocky Mountains.

I bet Lady Gaga doesn't have to worry.

192 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:32:36pm

re: #182 Sergey Romanov

Intersting, by the way, how the religious right, so indignant at the "leftist relativism" and postmodernism so easily engages in it themselves (all the talk about evolutionary and creationist paradigms, assumptions, influence etc.).

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:33:01pm

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Our Catholic kids worked with a Salvation Army mobile team on Katrina. They have a slight touch of fanaticism that keeps them honest. (Love 'em, but I'm still not putting anything in a bellringer's bucket before Thanksgiving.)

I like the Salvation Army collectors at Japantown. Instead of screaming "Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas", they bow when you put something in the bucket. It's much less nerve-wracking, and one can bow back, which makes the whole exchange very civilized and pleasant.

194 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:35:50pm

re: #190 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, it's what the neighborhood is called. Non-Orthodox synagogues, and some Orthodox ones, in Britain, don't tend to give synagogues Hebrew names the way we do in the states. And St. John's Wood is a classy address, so they wanted everyone to know.

Venetian Catholics meet you half-way. Church of San Moise:

[Link: easywebsite.net...]

195 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:37:09pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

I like the Salvation Army collectors at Japantown. Instead of screaming "Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas", they bow when you put something in the bucket. It's much less nerve-wracking, and one can bow back, which makes the whole exchange very civilized and pleasant.

That reminds me of a story in the NY Daily News several years back about two Santas who got in a smackdown and ended up rolling around on the sidewalk. Gotta love NYC.

196 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:37:30pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

I like the Salvation Army collectors at Japantown. Instead of screaming "Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas", they bow when you put something in the bucket. It's much less nerve-wracking, and one can bow back, which makes the whole exchange very civilized and pleasant.

Growing up, a Japanese market my family used to go to had Shogun Santa make appearances over the holiday. Older Japanese guy in a Santa suit and samurai armor giving treats to all the little kids. It was cool.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:38:17pm

re: #196 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Growing up, a Japanese market my family used to go to had Shogun Santa make appearances over the holiday. Older Japanese guy in a Santa suit and samurai armor giving treats to all the little kids. It was cool.

That sounds delightful.

199 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:40:05pm

re: #196 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Growing up, a Japanese market my family used to go to had Shogun Santa make appearances over the holiday. Older Japanese guy in a Santa suit and samurai armor giving treats to all the little kids. It was cool.

F*** I would happily read a comic book series about "Shogun Santa"

200 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:40:20pm

re: #197 Varek Raith

Richard Holbrooke, U.S. Diplomat, Dead at 69

R.I.P.

You just never know when your number's gonna be up. One day you're fine then...*poof*

201 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:40:58pm

re: #196 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Growing up, a Japanese market my family used to go to had Shogun Santa make appearances over the holiday. Older Japanese guy in a Santa suit and samurai armor giving treats to all the little kids. It was cool.

There's a John Belushi bit in there..

202 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:41:21pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

That sounds delightful.

Yeah, I remember he wore a Christmas themed sashimono and had jingle bells on his armor, must have been like 25 years ago at least.

203 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:42:52pm

Bottom comments almost sweeped.

204 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:43:11pm

re: #202 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Yeah, I remember he wore a Christmas themed sashimono and had jingle bells on his armor, must have been like 25 years ago at least.

Damn, that's awesome.

205 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:44:23pm

This is the ancestor to the logo as posted by Charles:

Image: RowanAndMartinsLaughInLPFront.jpg

206 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:44:57pm

re: #205 imp_62

This is the ancestor to the logo as posted by Charles:

Image: RowanAndMartinsLaughInLPFront.jpg

Your link isn't working for me...

207 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:45:12pm

re: #205 imp_62

This is the ancestor to the logo as posted by Charles:

Image: RowanAndMartinsLaughInLPFront.jpg

Blogspot doesn't allow external linking.

208 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:45:16pm

re: #205 imp_62

dammit. trying again:
Image: laugh%20in.jpg

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:46:00pm

re: #197 Varek Raith

Torn aorta. That's what killed John Ritter.

210 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:46:38pm

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Torn aorta. That's what killed John Ritter.

That's what killed my dad.

211 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:46:39pm

re: #203 Sergey Romanov

Bottom comments almost sweeped.

this guy?

Lanzman
12/13/2010 1:33:19 pm PST

Costs should cover expenses. That's how a free market works.

the utter self confidence that comes with total ignorance

212 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:46:49pm

re: #197 Varek Raith

Richard Holbrooke, U.S. Diplomat, Dead at 69

That's a real shame and a loss for the US diplomatic corps.

213 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:47:34pm

re: #197 Varek Raith

Richard Holbrooke, U.S. Diplomat, Dead at 69

Obviously, this is Obama's fault.
///

214 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:47:48pm

re: #211 engineer dog

this guy?

the utter self confidence that comes with total ignorance

Wait. What?

That's like saying: This programme has been close captioned for the blind.

215 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:49:53pm

hideous logo that looks like an explosion in a font factory

bad graphic designer, no cappucino

216 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:50:43pm

Here's a nice Santa story I saved from 2001:

Claus to rejoice Big, bearded anonymous guy hands out thousands

Twas a week before Christmas and all through the town, a Secret Santa doled out cash to folks who were down.

Ben Franklins in hand, a hat of red felt, he gave complete strangers the gift of free gelt.

His accent was Southern, but this was no hick. For many New Yorkers, this was St. Nick.

"I was standing on 34th St. doing my job and a big guy came up to me and said, 'Hi,' " James Frazier, a Macy's security guard, said yesterday. "I said, 'Hi,' and he gave me a $100 bill."

More...

217 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:50:46pm

re: #211 engineer dog

this guy?

the utter self confidence that comes with total ignorance

Especially considering that he was talking about the post office...

Sometimes a government agency existing to preform a service, exists only to provide a service and damn the profits/deficits...

218 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:51:22pm

re: #214 imp_62

Wait. What?

That's like saying: This programme has been close captioned for the blind.

You've never heard of the Dunning Kruger effect?

219 darthstar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:51:31pm

Richard Holbrook has died. Peace to his family.

220 darthstar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:51:58pm

re: #219 darthstar

Richard Holbrook has died. Peace to his family.

Holbrooke...excuse me.

221 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:54:05pm

So I was checking the kids Netflix queue for what they can stream to the TV, expecting carebears or spongebob.

The complete Starship Troopers cartoon series, Jaws 1,2 and 3, assorted Doctor Who and 2 documentaries on horses.

222 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:54:38pm

re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So I was checking the kids Netflix queue for what they can stream to the TV, expecting carebears or spongebob.

The complete Starship Troopers cartoon series, Jaws 1,2 and 3, assorted Doctor Who and 2 documentaries on horses.

LOL

223 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:55:02pm

re: #218 jamesfirecat

You've never heard of the Dunning Kruger effect?

I have now :)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

224 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:56:05pm

re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So I was checking the kids Netflix queue for what they can stream to the TV, expecting carebears or spongebob.

The complete Starship Troopers cartoon series, Jaws 1,2 and 3, assorted Doctor Who and 2 documentaries on horses.

The Starship Troopers cartoon was pretty good if memory serves... better than the movies...

225 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:57:29pm

re: #222 CuriousLurker

LOL

The inexorable march of progress. This seems like eons ago:


Youtube Video
226 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 4:58:53pm

re: #224 jamesfirecat

The Starship Troopers cartoon was pretty good if memory serves... better than the movies...

The cartoons were fine for a kids cartoon. The movies were utter and complete shit.

Don't get me started on the movies.

227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:00:34pm

re: #226 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Doogie Howser was great in the movie!

228 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:01:46pm

I found it! Evil Santa vs. good Santa, 1998:

BOGUS SANTAS ARE CLAUS FOR CONCERN - COPS

Yes, Virginia, there are bad Santa Clauses, too.

Several unauthorized Santas are running a scam on the streets of New York, pretending to collect money for charities and instead putting the proceeds in their fleece-lined pockets.

In some cases, these greedy Grinches have even tried to strong-arm legitimate Santas, employed by the Volunteers of America, off choice locations.

On Wednesday, for example, open warfare broke out when a genuine Santa collecting for charity was threatened by one of the bogus Santas.

More...

229 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:02:17pm

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doogie Howser was great in the movie!

HIS CHARACTER DIED IN THE FIRST PART OF THE BOOK!

DIZZIE DIED IN THE FIRST CHAPTER AND WAS A MAN!

Grrr.

230 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:02:21pm

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doogie Howser was great in the movie!

Fat... FYI... tonight... the Geminid meteor shower... up to 160 an hour.

231 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:02:39pm

MNF and a few glasses of wine. Later, all

232 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:03:00pm

re: #226 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The cartoons were fine for a kids cartoon. The movies were utter and complete shit.

Don't get me started on the movies.

What I was impressed by in the cartoons was the fact that if memory serves they had a "skinny" serving on the team.

That was a nice touch something that we never even read about happening in the books (though we do read about the MI trying to break up the skinnies and the bugs) and wasn't even CLOSE to alluded to in the movies.

(Sorry Kragar something tells me I just got you started...)

233 shutdown  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:03:25pm

re: #230 Walter L. Newton

Fat... FYI... tonight... the Geminid meteor shower... up to 160 an hour.

Snow storm here. Ceiling at a few hundred feet max and near zero visibility.

234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:04:29pm

re: #230 Walter L. Newton

Fat... FYI... tonight... the Geminid meteor shower... up to 160 an hour.

I know! Cloudy here and cold. I'd be all up innit if I could see it.

235 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:04:46pm

re: #233 imp_62

Snow storm here. Ceiling at a few hundred feet max and near zero visibility.

Then be careful... you won't be able to see them coming in and you could get hit :)

236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:05:00pm

re: #230 Walter L. Newton

Oh! And thanks!

237 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:05:44pm

re: #229 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

But, you're not bitter!

238 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:06:16pm

re: #234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I know! Cloudy here and cold. I'd be all up innit if I could see it.

Too bad. We have partly cloudy... not too many clouds right now... and we are suppose to have a rather warm night... low of 38 degrees (f)... would be perfect for standing outside in a tee shirt and enjoying the fireworks.

239 darthstar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:06:57pm

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doogie Howser was great in the movie!

Doogie was a dick in that movie. I was glad when he died. Merry Christmas, everyone.

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:08:31pm

re: #239 darthstar

I just spewed beer... And I thank you.

241 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:09:01pm

re: #239 darthstar

Doogie was a dick in that movie. I was glad when he died. Merry Christmas, everyone.

He didn't die, though he should of.

And the main character was not a blonde white guy.

242 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:09:29pm

Reginald, I see you're here. Can you tell about Odom?

243 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:21:06pm

re: #241 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

He didn't die, though he should of.

And the main character was not a blonde white guy.

Hey Kragar, nobody else is doing anything else, what did you think of Paul Verhoeven's, Starship Troopers?

244 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:22:43pm

Set up PAC, begin grift.

245 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:23:12pm

re: #243 jamesfirecat

Hey Kragar, nobody else is doing anything else, what did you think of Paul Verhoeven's, Starship Troopers?

Youtube Video
246 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:27:16pm

re: #234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cloudy here too-with increasing fog. I don't hold out much hope for seeing anything.

247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:27:53pm

re: #245 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I like Michael Ironside though, so perhaps this would be better for you.

Youtube Video
248 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:27:59pm

re: #245 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

[Video]

Well it seems so sterile and nice when you put it like that.

Try this

Youtube Video


From 1:12 forward...

249 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:28:30pm

re: #246 calochortus

Cloudy here too-with increasing fog. I don't hold out much hope for seeing anything.

Clear as a bell here, but cooooold (well, much colder than usual for us).
I'm hoping to see a few.

250 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:29:01pm

Damn.
Would anybody object if I bragged on my kid a bit?

251 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:30:17pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Damn.
Would anybody object if I bragged on my kid a bit?

No... go ahead

252 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:30:26pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Please do.

253 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:30:39pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Damn.
Would anybody object if I bragged on my kid a bit?

Seeing at he most exciting thing to go on in this thread at the moment is me playfully trolling Kragar I'd say roll with it...

254 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:31:20pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Damn.
Would anybody object if I bragged on my kid a bit?

let it rip!

255 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:31:28pm

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

256 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:32:18pm

re: #248 jamesfirecat

Well it seems so sterile and nice when you put it like that.

Try this

[Video]


From 1:12 forward...

I now present an accurate simulation of me meeting Paul Verhoeven, the Producers, and executive assistants of the film.

Youtube Video
257 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:33:13pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Damn.
Would anybody object if I bragged on my kid a bit?

Go for it.

258 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:33:24pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

WOOT!

259 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:33:43pm

re: #257 b_sharp

Go for it.

Yikes!
I was out of the house all day and didn't go look for that model number. I'll do it tomorrow.

260 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:33:59pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

Hooray!

261 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:33:59pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

Hooray for her!

262 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:34:14pm

Steele running for re-election

Stunning supporters and critics alike, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele announced his reelection bid by e-mail shortly after a conference call with committee members tonight: "I come to my bosses with a record that only you can judge, based upon directions you made clear to me from the very beginning. Yes, I have stumbled along the way, but have always accounted to you for such shortcomings. No excuses. No lies. No hidden agenda. Going forward, I ask for your support and your vote for a second term."

263 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:34:43pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

Congrats!

264 jaunte  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:35:10pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

Nice work, both of you!

265 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:35:13pm

re: #256 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Are you the guy in black doing the fighting, or the other guy looking on malevolently?

266 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:35:23pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

Wow, give her a high five for me! Well done, mom.

267 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:35:41pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

///Well yeah, but who couldn't get an A in "Music Appreciation"?

I'm actually very happy for you though I'm surprised her college gives out grades this early...

268 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:35:47pm

re: #256 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I now present an accurate simulation of me meeting Paul Verhoeven, the Producers, and executive assistants of the film.

Here is my version.

Youtube Video
269 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:36:00pm

re: #262 CuriousLurker

I'm trying to think of something witty to say, but mostly, I'm stunned too. What is he smoking?

270 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:36:13pm

She's a good kid, my kid is, and she worked very hard. Thanks, all, for letting me holler it out, been dyin' to tell somebody all day long.

271 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:36:25pm

re: #259 reine.de.tout

Yikes!
I was out of the house all day and didn't go look for that model number. I'll do it tomorrow.

No worries, I have lots to do.

272 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:36:29pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

Are you the guy in black doing the fighting, or the other guy looking on malevolently?

For the sake of the simulation, I'll say both.

273 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:36:51pm

re: #271 b_sharp

No worries, I have lots to do.

I'm sure you do!
I do appreciate you offer of assistance.
Didn't want you to think I didn't.

274 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:37:08pm

re: #268 b_sharp

Here is my version.

[Video]

Equally valid.

275 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:37:38pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

She's a good kid, my kid is, and she worked very hard. Thanks, all, for letting me holler it out, been dyin' to tell somebody all day long.

You are more than welcome.

276 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:38:48pm

re: #269 calochortus

I'm trying to think of something witty to say, but mostly, I'm stunned too. What is he smoking?

I had to do a double-take myself to be sure I was reading it right.

277 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:39:10pm

re: #267 jamesfirecat

///Well yeah, but who couldn't get an A in "Music Appreciation"?

I'm actually very happy for you though I'm surprised her college gives out grades this early...

yikes. i should have gone to your school...

278 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:39:21pm

re: #274 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Equally valid.

Is this is the correct neighborhood?

Youtube Video
279 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:39:47pm

Watching all the party wags turn on Steele for not stepping down is going to be fun.

280 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:41:23pm

re: #276 CuriousLurker

I had to do a double-take myself to be sure I was reading it right.

IIRC,+63 in the House, +6 in the Senate. How can they deny him?

281 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:41:51pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

When does she get to take the mad scientist lab? You know, the one where you get to transplant fully functional human frequencies into mouse bodies and then laugh maniacally.

282 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:42:10pm

re: #267 jamesfirecat

///Well yeah, but who couldn't get an A in "Music Appreciation"?

I'm actually very happy for you though I'm surprised her college gives out grades this early...

They've got everything on computers, the grades are posted really quickly.

283 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:42:29pm

re: #280 Decatur Deb

IIRC,+63 in the House, +6 in the Senate. How can they deny him?

But how much of that can be credited to Steele?

284 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:42:33pm

re: #281 prononymous

When does she get to take the mad scientist lab? You know, the one where you get to transplant fully functional human frequencies into mouse bodies and then laugh maniacally.

That's next semester. She's already signed up.
heh.

285 laZardo  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:42:35pm

re: #282 reine.de.tout

TAKE HER OUT FOR ICE CREAM. o:

286 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:42:50pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

I'm proud for you and your daughter both, Reine.

287 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:43:28pm

re: #283 calochortus

But how much of that can be credited to Steele?

I blame Bush.

288 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:43:30pm

re: #278 jamesfirecat

Is this is the correct neighborhood?

[Video]

More like this;

Youtube Video
289 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:43:34pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

She just finished her first semester of college.
Biology for Science majors, Biology Lab, Animal Science, Animal Science, Math and Music Appreciation.

She just got her grades.
All A's.

I could burst with pride.

Wonderful news!

290 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:44:01pm

re: #197 Varek Raith

Richard Holbrooke, U.S. Diplomat, Dead at 69

Just read. Sad d d

291 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:44:27pm

re: #288 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

More like this;


[Video]

You fight like a cow!

292 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:44:45pm

re: #282 reine.de.tout

They've got everything on computers, the grades are posted really quickly.

freaked me out when i took my GMAT back in '04...i went to the guy to sign out when i was finished and he handed me a piece of paper with my score on it. i'm used to having a few weeks to prepare for little pieces of paper like that, you know;)

293 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:44:49pm

re: #280 Decatur Deb

IIRC,+63 in the House, +6 in the Senate. How can they deny him?

They won in spite of Steele, not because of him. Karl Rove was more instrumental in producing the victory than was Michael Steele.

294 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:46:10pm

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

They won in spite of Steele, not because of him. Karl Rove was more instrumental in producing the victory than was Michael Steele.

That will be for the TPGOP to sort out, heh...heh...heh.

295 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:46:21pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

I blame Bush.

Sure, why not?

But in real life, I think most rational Republicans (and there must be a few out there somewhere) know that their gains in the last elections were people upset with the fact all our problems haven't been magically fixed.

296 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:47:47pm

re: #295 calochortus

Sure, why not?

But in real life, I think most rational Republicans (and there must be a few out there somewhere) know that their gains in the last elections were people upset with the fact all our problems haven't been magically fixed.

I wasn't joking. The economy was left in such a shambles that it wasn't going to heal in two years.

297 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:47:48pm

re: #292 Aceofwhat?

freaked me out when i took my GMAT back in '04...i went to the guy to sign out when i was finished and he handed me a piece of paper with my score on it. i'm used to having a few weeks to prepare for little pieces of paper like that, you know;)

Yeah, exactly!
She knew what her final test grades were for most of her classes by the time she got back to the dorm after taking the test. Amazing. We used to have to wait and wait and wait, and then check the lists on the classroom door to find our names to see how we did.

298 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:48:02pm

re: #291 jamesfirecat

You fight like a cow!

Reminds me of pirate fights in the Monkey Island :)

299 calochortus  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:49:27pm

re: #296 Decatur Deb

Got it.

Dinner time, I'm out.

300 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:49:47pm

re: #298 Sergey Romanov

Reminds me of pirate fights in the Monkey Island :)

International Talk LIke a Pirate Day.

Unleash your inner buccaneer, and you can fight like a pirate, not a cow. Or even a holy cow.

301 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:50:10pm

re: #256 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I now present an accurate simulation of me meeting Paul Verhoeven, the Producers, and executive assistants of the film.


[Video]

The second last guy in that clip is me going up against my Sifu's 20 year old son in Hapkido.

302 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:50:47pm

re: #242 Sergey Romanov

Reginald, I see you're here. Can you tell about Odom?

Eric Odom is king of the trolls...

He pioneered the use of "watch" blogs to attack his political adversaries and promote the talking points from the Astroturf Spin-machine. Quite a few of these blogs were thinly veiled stalker troll sites.
Odom has received funding from both the Kochs and Dick Armey's FreedomWorks

303 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:50:53pm

re: #296 Decatur Deb

I wasn't joking. The economy was left in such a shambles that it wasn't going to heal in two years.

BIOB, you say?

Well HRWTPTRTCIG to you good sir.

304 laZardo  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:51:40pm

re: #300 reine.de.tout

YARR FUCK NINJAS.

P)

305 OIFVet  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:51:43pm

re: #295 calochortus

Sure, why not?

But in real life, I think most rational Republicans (and there must be a few out there somewhere) know that their gains in the last elections were people upset with the fact all our problems haven't been magically fixed.

It's funny how both sides equally call the other side stupid, irrational, blind, ignorant, etc. I love being independent and watching the fireworks.

306 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:52:30pm

re: #300 reine.de.tout

I kind of share Orac's opinion on this custom.

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

;-)

307 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:52:41pm

re: #302 Reginald Perrin

Eric Odom is king of the trolls...

He pioneered the use of "watch" blogs to attack his political adversaries and promote the talking points from the Astroturf Spin-machine. Quite a few of these blogs were thinly veiled stalker troll sites.
Odom has received funding from both the Kochs and Dick Armey's FreedomWorks

If memory serves, wasn't he the one who gave Rodan AKA Trajan AKA Twajie his start in blogtrolling?

308 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:53:25pm

re: #303 jamesfirecat

? Once had a Captain Video decoder ring, lost it during a duck-and-cover.

309 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:53:31pm

re: #305 OIFVet

It's funny how both sides equally call the other side stupid, irrational, blind, ignorant, etc. I love being independent and watching the fireworks.

What if one side actually is irrational blind and ignorant?

The truth does not always lie in the middle my good friend.

310 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:53:41pm

re: #306 Sergey Romanov

I kind of share Orac's opinion on this custom.

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

;-)

heh.
I got a bit tired of the pirate thing; we had someone here for awhile who talked like a pirate for an entire year. Drove everybody nuts.

311 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:54:56pm

re: #310 reine.de.tout

heh.
I got a bit tired of the pirate thing; we had someone here for awhile who talked like a pirate for an entire year. Drove everybody nuts.

Ha!

312 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:55:09pm

re: #306 Sergey Romanov

I kind of share Orac's opinion on this custom.

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

;-)

I like the idea of talk like Beaker day.

313 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:55:54pm

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

If memory serves, wasn't he the one who gave Rodan AKA Trajan AKA Twajie his start in blogtrolling?

Speaking of certain trolls are you ever gonna finish Tomb of the Dead Political Gods?

You were just starting civil war woods when you broke it off what feels like 6 months ago....

314 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:56:28pm

re: #310 reine.de.tout

heh.
I got a bit tired of the pirate thing; we had someone here for awhile who talked like a pirate for an entire year. Drove everybody nuts.

You had a parrot?

Did you finally eat it when you'd had enough?

315 Digital Display  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:56:52pm

re: #310 reine.de.tout

heh.
I got a bit tired of the pirate thing; we had someone here for awhile who talked like a pirate for an entire year. Drove everybody nuts.

Yup..Can't remember his name...
To err is human
to Yarr is Pirate

Great news about your daughter!

316 compound idaho  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:57:29pm

re: #295 calochortus

There are a few. I consider myself one of them. I make my living as a self employed consulting scientist. Talk about a results oriented performance career. I cannot go around telling my customers that the earth is 4,000 years old and put food on the table (and shoes on Mrs Compounds feet). But where do you go if you think government should be smaller, do less, and tax less? The answer in my mind is clear. I could vote libertarian I guess? Seriously, not all republicans are bible toting (although I consider myself a man of faith), young earth, home schooling (not a bad idea if you put in the effort) morons.

317 OIFVet  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:57:36pm

re: #309 jamesfirecat

What if one side actually is irrational blind and ignorant?

The truth does not always lie in the middle my good friend.

Don't confuse me with the "middle." I am socially very liberal (yes for gay marriage, legalizing drugs), fiscally conservative. I support national health care/insurance (single payer), a smaller military, and a balanced budget where expenditures equals income.

I just giggle every time I see one side or the other freak out about the extremes of the other party. Really, the U.S. is very centrist and the majority of Democrats and Republicans would get along quite well with out their respective extremes..

318 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:58:08pm

re: #314 b_sharp

You had a parrot?

Did you finally eat it when you'd had enough?

hehehehe.
Nope.
I got tired of the damned bird pooping on my shoulder or my head everytime he came around and let him out the window.
Not really, never had a bird. But my sister-in-law did, and that's exactly what the damned bird did, and I was very thankful when the bird finally died a peaceful and natural death.

319 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:58:25pm

re: #304 laZardo

YARR FUCK NINJAS.

P)

I would say it depends entirely on the ninja in question.

320 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:58:37pm

Here we go.

Youtube Video
321 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:59:17pm

re: #316 compound idaho

There are a few. I consider myself one of them. I make my living as a self employed consulting scientist. Talk about a results oriented performance career. I cannot go around telling my customers that the earth is 4,000 years old and put food on the table (and shoes on Mrs Compounds feet). But where do you go if you think government should be smaller, do less, and tax less? The answer in my mind is clear. I could vote libertarian I guess? Seriously, not all republicans are bible toting (although I consider myself a man of faith), young earth, home schooling (not a bad idea if you put in the effort) morons.

///No just it seems like all the ones running for office are.

(Seriously how many Republican Senators at the moment are willing to say they believe Evolution is by far the best way to explain how human life came to be, and that neither ID or Creationism belong anywhere but a religious studies class?)

322 Digital Display  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:59:25pm

re: #310 reine.de.tout

heh.
I got a bit tired of the pirate thing; we had someone here for awhile who talked like a pirate for an entire year. Drove everybody nuts.

I remember his name! Loflyer from Atlanta..

323 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:59:53pm

re: #322 HoosierHoops

I remember his name! Loflyer from Atlanta..

YES! That was it, I couldn't recall it.

324 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:00:25pm

re: #310 reine.de.tout

Ooh! I had forgotten about him.
He did drive me nuts.

325 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:01:29pm

re: #318 reine.de.tout

hehehehe.
Nope.
I got tired of the damned bird pooping on my shoulder or my head everytime he came around and let him out the window.
Not really, never had a bird. But my sister-in-law did, and that's exactly what the damned bird did, and I was very thankful when the bird finally died a peaceful and natural death.

You always carry a hammer in your purse for such needs, I'll bet.;P

326 OIFVet  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:01:33pm

re: #321 jamesfirecat

///No just it seems like all the ones running for office are.

(Seriously how many Republican Senators at the moment are willing to say they believe Evolution is by far the best way to explain how human life came to be, and that neither ID or Creationism belong anywhere but a religious studies class?)

Or they catered to the nutty teabaggers. My father is heavily involved in county politics (and I respect his opinion even though I disagree with a lot of it). He is not religious, not insane, and trying to get the teabaggers to disappear because they are "wrecking the Republicans" as he put it.

327 jaunte  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:01:36pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

Ooh! I had forgotten about him.
He did drive me nuts.

I think there's a pirate joke about that.

328 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:02:17pm

re: #321 jamesfirecat

///No just it seems like all the ones running for office are.

(Seriously how many Republican Senators at the moment are willing to say they believe Evolution is by far the best way to explain how human life came to be, and that neither ID or Creationism belong anywhere but a religious studies class?)

I'll guess zero.

What do I win?

329 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:02:20pm

re: #326 OIFVet

Or they catered to the nutty teabaggers. My father is heavily involved in county politics (and I respect his opinion even though I disagree with a lot of it). He is not religious, not insane, and trying to get the teabaggers to disappear because they are "wrecking the Republicans" as he put it.

Your father sounds like the kind of man the GOP needs more of, desperately.

330 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:02:39pm

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

If memory serves, wasn't he the one who gave Rodan AKA Trajan AKA Twajie his start in blogtrolling?

Yes he did, Odom made Martinez a "contributor" at his Olbermann Watch stalker blog. What was weird was the fact that Martinez never posted even a single thread. The title was payment for trolling progressive blogs and spamming their comment threads. For a very brief time Martinez and a couple cohorts ran Odom's ThinkProgress Watch, but that ended very badly for the Tampa Twit. I am proud to say I played a part in making that blog a dismal failure.

331 palomino  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:05:34pm

This was 150 years ago. The bad guys lost, get over it, move on. Dressing up like Rhett Butler and pretending that the south will rise again is laughable.

332 palomino  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:06:35pm

Ignore 331. Got threads mixed up.

333 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:06:40pm

Yar, me maties.

Youtube Video
334 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:07:35pm

re: #313 jamesfirecat

Speaking of certain trolls are you ever gonna finish Tomb of the Dead Political Gods?

You were just starting civil war woods when you broke it off what feels like 6 months ago...

I'm actually still having a hard time with civil war woods. I did write the chapter for the party that had gotten enough of the soul gems:

It All Comes Out In the Wash

2

3

4

5

6

7

335 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:07:47pm

re: #321 jamesfirecat

///No just it seems like all the ones running for office are.

(Seriously how many Republican Senators at the moment are willing to say they believe Evolution is by far the best way to explain how human life came to be, and that neither ID or Creationism belong anywhere but a religious studies class?)

I'm going to go way out and say I don't think "creationism" or "ID" (as these are defined by Discovery Institute and others), don't belong in religion class, either.

Religion class should be a study of God and faith; the biblical story of how man was created is of course part of that, but nowhere near what's really important about faith and living according to faith.

Of course I'm saying this as a person of faith who recognizes and realizes that science cannot be denied, and the evolutionary process is indeed how we came to be (in my mind, it's the method by which God caused us to be).

If you're teaching ID and creationism, you're teaching something that denies science, so no matter what is taught in a science class, you're getting a whole contradictory message from religion class. I don't think the two things, faith and science, are contradictory, and I cannot for the life of me understand why people think they are. It just makes no sense to me, that people will deny the wonder of this world we live in, by denying scientific discoveries (and in my mind, that's a HUGE insult to God).

336 OIFVet  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:07:56pm

re: #333 b_sharp

I'm so confused...

337 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:08:33pm

some Amazing Facts from our friends in sharon angle's "patriot" caucus, from

Progressive Thought Defined

I have been asked to define what a progressive is in the past and struggled to get the point across without having an example that someone can relate to. I think this is a great case study to get the point across. Progressives take the theory of evolution and apply it to morality and the society. They believe that society evolves and that laws that were made in the past are not necessarily needed in the same form today. Laws are not static. They are dynamic and subject to change with the circumstances.

i believe he means to imply that this would be a Bad Idea. on the other hand, the social darwinism aspect of wingnut thinking is i guess invisible to him

...Breyer, like other progressives, believes that as human behavior evolves, safeguards against tyranny become obsolete...

burning strawmen can help keep you warm during this holiday season!

Another belief that progressives hold is that since human behavior evolves, the more intelligent among us must lead society to its future. This is a very dangerous belief

clearly, the more stupid of us are already on the job

338 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:09:53pm

re: #330 Reginald Perrin

Yes he did, Odom made Martinez a "contributor" at his Olbermann Watch stalker blog. What was weird was the fact that Martinez never posted even a single thread. The title was payment for trolling progressive blogs and spamming their comment threads. For a very brief time Martinez and a couple cohorts ran Odom's ThinkProgress Watch, but that ended very badly for the Tampa Twit. I am proud to say I played a part in making that blog a dismal failure.

And I'm thankful that you helped make it fail. It revealed him to be the ass that he really is.

339 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:11:34pm

re: #337 engineer dog

some Amazing Facts from our friends in sharon angle's "patriot" caucus, from

Progressive Thought Defined

I have been asked to define what a progressive is in the past and struggled to get the point across without having an example that someone can relate to. I think this is a great case study to get the point across. Progressives take the theory of evolution and apply it to morality and the society. They believe that society evolves and that laws that were made in the past are not necessarily needed in the same form today. Laws are not static. They are dynamic and subject to change with the circumstances.

i believe he means to imply that this would be a Bad Idea. on the other hand, the social darwinism aspect of wingnut thinking is i guess invisible to him

...Breyer, like other progressives, believes that as human behavior evolves, safeguards against tyranny become obsolete...

burning strawmen can help keep you warm during this holiday season!

Another belief that progressives hold is that since human behavior evolves, the more intelligent among us must lead society to its future. This is a very dangerous belief

clearly, the more stupid of us are already on the job

EVOLUTION LEADS TO COMMUNISM!!!11

/Member of "Patriot Caucus"

340 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:11:43pm

re: #337 engineer dog

some Amazing Facts from our friends in sharon angle's "patriot" caucus, from

Progressive Thought Defined

I have been asked to define what a progressive is in the past and struggled to get the point across without having an example that someone can relate to. I think this is a great case study to get the point across. Progressives take the theory of evolution and apply it to morality and the society. They believe that society evolves and that laws that were made in the past are not necessarily needed in the same form today. Laws are not static. They are dynamic and subject to change with the circumstances.

i believe he means to imply that this would be a Bad Idea. on the other hand, the social darwinism aspect of wingnut thinking is i guess invisible to him

...Breyer, like other progressives, believes that as human behavior evolves, safeguards against tyranny become obsolete...

burning strawmen can help keep you warm during this holiday season!

Another belief that progressives hold is that since human behavior evolves, the more intelligent among us must lead society to its future. This is a very dangerous belief

clearly, the more stupid of us are already on the job

Even with all the straw being thrown about willy-nilly, I have to wonder if the author has the intellect to know which end of the match to strike.

341 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:12:15pm

re: #337 engineer dog

some Amazing Facts from our friends in sharon angle's "patriot" caucus, from

Progressive Thought Defined

I have been asked to define what a progressive is in the past and struggled to get the point across without having an example that someone can relate to. I think this is a great case study to get the point across. Progressives take the theory of evolution and apply it to morality and the society. They believe that society evolves and that laws that were made in the past are not necessarily needed in the same form today. Laws are not static. They are dynamic and subject to change with the circumstances.

According to the logic that we should stick with the laws we always had and not change anything, we would not have laws regulating automobile traffic, because there was no need for them in the past (there being no cars).

That person is making no sense.

342 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:13:40pm

re: #335 reine.de.tout

I'm going to go way out and say I don't think "creationism" or "ID" (as these are defined by Discovery Institute and others), don't belong in religion class, either.

Religion class should be a study of God and faith; the biblical story of how man was created is of course part of that, but nowhere near what's really important about faith and living according to faith.

Of course I'm saying this as a person of faith who recognizes and realizes that science cannot be denied, and the evolutionary process is indeed how we came to be (in my mind, it's the method by which God caused us to be).

If you're teaching ID and creationism, you're teaching something that denies science, so no matter what is taught in a science class, you're getting a whole contradictory message from religion class. I don't think the two things, faith and science, are contradictory, and I cannot for the life of me understand why people think they are. It just makes no sense to me, that people will deny the wonder of this world we live in, by denying scientific discoveries (and in my mind, that's a HUGE insult to God).

Absolutely. I don't get when anyone says this thing about the religious class. Both IDC and so-called scientific creationism are attempts to fit data to a specific interpretation of the Bible, Quran etc.. As such, both have been shown to be a tissue of lies and misrepresentations. Telling about the Bible, Quran etc. and their creation stories in religious studies is not equivalent to teaching ID or creationism.

343 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:15:05pm

re: #335 reine.de.tout

I'm going to go way out and say I don't think "creationism" or "ID" (as these are defined by Discovery Institute and others), don't belong in religion class, either.

Religion class should be a study of God and faith; the biblical story of how man was created is of course part of that, but nowhere near what's really important about faith and living according to faith.

Of course I'm saying this as a person of faith who recognizes and realizes that science cannot be denied, and the evolutionary process is indeed how we came to be (in my mind, it's the method by which God caused us to be).

If you're teaching ID and creationism, you're teaching something that denies science, so no matter what is taught in a science class, you're getting a whole contradictory message from religion class. I don't think the two things, faith and science, are contradictory, and I cannot for the life of me understand why people think they are. It just makes no sense to me, that people will deny the wonder of this world we live in, by denying scientific discoveries (and in my mind, that's a HUGE insult to God).

A philosophy class might be better.

344 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:15:41pm

Wow it really says something when I suggest Creationism and Intelligent Design should stick to religious classes, and I get slapped on the wrist for insulting religious classes.

(Knew there was a reason I liked LGF)

345 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:16:01pm

re: #341 reine.de.tout

According to the logic that we should stick with the laws we always had and not change anything, we would not have laws regulating automobile traffic, because there was no need for them in the past (there being no cars).

That person is making no sense.

I think when that writer says "laws" they mean the Constitution. If so, the point becomes more comprehensible, but it still has a number of logic holes (the 27 Amendments to the Constitution being the greatest of those holes).

346 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:17:16pm

Where be everybody, boyos? And Darlins.

Bloody hell I'm in a weird mood.

347 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:18:20pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

I think when that writer says "laws" they mean the Constitution. If so, the point becomes more comprehensible, but it still has a number of logic holes (the 27 Amendments to the Constitution being the greatest of those holes).

Your constitution must be broken if you had to fix it 27 times.

More roughage.

348 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:18:33pm

Evening lizards!

What is going on? What are we talking about? Who do ya know? Where is my other sock?

349 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:19:24pm

re: #346 b_sharp

Where be everybody, boyos? And Darlins.

Bloody hell I'm in a weird mood.

Playing with one of these: [Link: line6.com...]

And also workin'

350 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:20:26pm

re: #343 b_sharp

A philosophy class might be better.

Could be.

My daughter went to a Catholic school, so of course she took a religion class, and they discussed other faiths' beliefs and practices, but nowhere was it ever taught to her that faith, or the practice of it, was contradictory to scientific truth.

And that's where the teaching of creationism and ID comes into play. It will teach that evolution (not other things, for some reason evolution is the boogeyman) is contradictory to their faith, and at some point they'll have to make a choice. What a terrible disservice to a person, to put them in a position where they will have to choose this or that, when it isn't necessary!

351 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:20:34pm

re: #82 Aceofwhat?

that's a different affliction, and nearly as difficult to cure/

There are no cures for any viral infection. You can only hope to survive it.

352 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:23:46pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

Playing with one of these: [Link: line6.com...]

And also workin'

I wants. Me must have.

The work, not so much.

I've been trying to set up my recording area but I can't find the cord from my Delta44 to the breakout box.

I can hook my effects box to the BO box through the mixer but I can't get the sound to my 'puter. AArrgg!

353 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:24:40pm

re: #346 b_sharp

Where be everybody, boyos? And Darlins.

Bloody hell I'm in a weird mood.

They be with Cap'n Brownbeard of the pirate ship, The Jolly Rogering, swabbing the poopdeck.

354 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:25:41pm

re: #351 Romantic Heretic

There are no cures for any viral infection. You can only hope to survive it.

Cure, maybe not, but treatment, yup.

355 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:26:26pm

re: #353 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They be with Cap'n Brownbeard of the pirate ship, The Jolly Rogering, swabbing the poopdeck.

Barf.

356 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:28:29pm

re: #353 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They be with Cap'n Brownbeard of the pirate ship, The Jolly Rogering, swabbing the poopdeck.

Sounds like something out of Munchkin Booty.

357 Kragar  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:29:45pm

re: #355 b_sharp

Barf.

That be the cook's name.

358 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:30:44pm

alrighty. the rhinovirus induces another early night...good night, all

359 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:30:55pm

re: #344 jamesfirecat

Wow it really says something when I suggest Creationism and Intelligent Design should stick to religious classes, and I get slapped on the wrist for insulting religious classes.

(Knew there was a reason I liked LGF)

Now James, that wasn't a slap on the wrist, it was, well, an expression of my opinion. That's all!
:-)

360 compound idaho  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:31:47pm

re: #350 reine.de.tout

The current stereotype of republicans just is not as extreme as many would have you believe. When I go to church (baptized Methodist, member Lutheran [got to love that whole German beer thing], currently attend Presbyterian [pastor is a genius]) I just do not find these extremists. Maybe it is the community, but the guy or gal in the pew next to me if very often a PhD. nuclear physicist or a chemist who is not big on ID or the creation story is an explanation of why we are here, not how we got here.

361 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:34:48pm

re: #335 reine.de.tout

I don't think the two things, faith and science, are contradictory, and I cannot for the life of me understand why people think they are. It just makes no sense to me, that people will deny the wonder of this world we live in, by denying scientific discoveries (and in my mind, that's a HUGE insult to God).

I'm in complete agreement with you on this. I don't think it has to be an either/or choice as religion & science serve different purposes. If I have a person/spiritual problem, I'll go to a trusted imam for advice; if I get sick, I'll go see a doctor. It's not that complicated.

362 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:37:42pm

re: #360 compound idaho

The current stereotype of republicans just is not as extreme as many would have you believe. When I go to church (baptized Methodist, member Lutheran [got to love that whole German beer thing], currently attend Presbyterian [pastor is a genius]) I just do not find these extremists. Maybe it is the community, but the guy or gal in the pew next to me if very often a PhD. nuclear physicist or a chemist who is not big on ID or the creation story is an explanation of why we are here, not how we got here.

Those people aren't being vocal enough. All we hear in the news, and on the various media, are the extreme and the loony.

363 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:39:40pm

re: #361 CuriousLurker

I'm in complete agreement with you on this. I don't think it has to be an either/or choice as religion & science serve different purposes. If I have a person/spiritual problem, I'll go to a trusted imam for advice; if I get sick, I'll go see a doctor. It's not that complicated.

My lovely wife agrees with both of you ladies. I, nasty atheist that I am, have slightly differing opinions.

364 laZardo  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:39:47pm

re: #351 Romantic Heretic

There are no cures for any viral infection. You can only hope to survive it.

i.e. Drink lots of fluids and man up.

q:

365 laZardo  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:40:43pm

re: #364 laZardo

This goes for women too, as it were. 0:

366 compound idaho  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:42:18pm

re: #335 reine.de.tout

re: #364 laZardo

Personally, I have yet to see the contradiction between science and religion. I will continue to try to treat my fellow man better than I do.

367 compound idaho  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:44:24pm

re: #364 laZardo

i.e. Drink lots of fluids and man up.

q:

368 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 6:47:00pm

re: #360 compound idaho

The current stereotype of republicans just is not as extreme as many would have you believe. When I go to church (baptized Methodist, member Lutheran [got to love that whole German beer thing], currently attend Presbyterian [pastor is a genius]) I just do not find these extremists. Maybe it is the community, but the guy or gal in the pew next to me if very often a PhD. nuclear physicist or a chemist who is not big on ID or the creation story is an explanation of why we are here, not how we got here.

I think you mean just not as "prevalent" rather than "extreme" because Charles has shown us just how extreme and crazy some people in the GOP can be, its just that you argue (if I read you correctly) that the crazy pants people aren't anywhere near as numerous as some would expect...

369 Mentis Fugit  Mon, Dec 13, 2010 10:18:36pm

re: #81 Spocomptonite

Their graphic design is almost as bad as their politics. Am I the only one that immediately saw a giant J stand out from their logo and is now incapable of reading it any other way besides, "The PatrJot CaucJs PAC"?


I read it as "The Patrjot Cauc Spac".


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