Big developments in the Senate today; the DREAM Act has been killed by nativist Republicans, but the repeal of DADT is going to pass today when the final vote is taken at 3 pm ET.
The overwhelming majority of Republicans voted to continue denying rights to gays and immigrants, which should come as no surprise.
UPDATE at 12/18/10 12:32:25 pm:
That’s it! DADT is dead. Final vote 65-31.
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Randall Gross Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:03:03am |
This will certainly shore up "bonafides" for the GOP with Nativists of all stripes [well except that one loon from AIM who tweeted back at me once about not using "Nativists" to describe the nativist movement...] At the same time it sets up a generational lock for the Dems with Latinos.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:03:03am |
And they the Democrats had one idiot on their side...
West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, who previously stated he opposes repeal, was the only Democrat to miss the vote.[Link: www.politico.com...]
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jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:04:21am |
You know what's the surest way to become a joke as a political party?
Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking section of the population.
Down the tubes, slow but sure....
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What, me worry? Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:05:40am |
re: #2 Thanos
This will certainly shore up "bonafides" for the GOP with Nativists of all stripes [well except that one loon from AIM who tweeted back at me once about not using "Nativists" to describe the nativist movement...] At the same time it sets up a generational lock for the Dems with Latinos.
Has that ever really been on the table? I mean, outside of South Florida.
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blueraven Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:06:45am |
Props to the republicans who did the right thing: Mark Kirk, Scott Brown, George Voinovich, Lisa Murkowski, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.
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allegro Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:11:54am |
re: #6 blueraven
I have an increasing affection for Scott Brown. Would that his influence spread throughout his party and bring about a righteous change for sanity, comity, and forward-thinking among the backward, hateful theocrats so that this country could once again be a leader in the world.
I know, I know... I can dream though can't I?
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What, me worry? Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:19:17am |
re: #7 allegro
I know, I know... I can dream though can't I?
Big developments in the Senate today; the DREAM Act has been killed by nativist Republicans, but the repeal of DADT is going to pass today when the final vote is taken at 3 pm ET.
Well, no, apparently you can't. Kind of a bittersweet pill.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:19:41am |
The Repeal of DADT is a great thing to have finally.
The DREAM Act failure really hurts though, and I know I'm biased because I have a personal stake in both because of friends and relatives who are either Gay or Bi and wanting to serve, or came to the country as young children and are now young adults trapped in a twilight of having no where to call home.
Whatever you might want to say about Laws and Legal versus Illegal, sometimes it comes down to a point of compassion. If you want to argue that someone who came here as an adult and is here illegally should be kicked out. I can accept that argument. (even if I disagree with a blanket assessment that they should all be kicked out, after all, these are the people who are stubborn enough, hard working enough, and determined enough to get into the country from distant places. That's the type of can do attitude which I think America needs even more of.)
However to tell me that some kid, 6, 8, 10, or even 12 years old who's brought to America by their parents, Raised here, went to school here. graduated high school should be sent back to their home country because of the sins of their parents? A home country they barely remember, and may not even speak the native language of? You may have the law on your side right now. But I don't feel guilty at all when I say, "You have no heart or soul."
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eff Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:24:18am |
Did I read this morning that the DREAM act wasn't just for kids, but affected people who were older, like 30?
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LRonHoover Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:24:51am |
I agree about DADT, but denying rights to immigrants? I don't see that.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:27:04am |
re: #10 eff
It is 29 and under according to The Wall Street Journal. [Link: online.wsj.com...]
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allegro Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:27:44am |
re: #11 LRonHoover
Perhaps because there's a difference about stated "rights" as exist in the law at present and the right thing to do. In the case of the DREAM act, the right thing to do appears to me to be very clear and obvious.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:28:02am |
re: #10 eff
Did I read this morning that the DREAM act wasn't just for kids, but affected people who were older, like 30?
Which is possible, my friend is 25 now, she's been in the US since she was 11 years old.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:33:39am |
I'm back. The girls picked out what they wanted for mommy and already wrapped them up. I let them wrap the presents themselves.
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Opal Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:33:45am |
A bit of "change" I can believe in, but I wish that the DREAM Act had passed. I'm waiting until after 3:00 p.m. before I celebrate the repeal of DADT. Anything could happen. Then...it is on to the New START treaty. Apparently Bob Corker claimed that if DADT passes, the Republicans won't vote for the New START treaty. How's that for patriotism? I'd also like to see the 911 Responders bill pass. I fear, however, that the US Chamber of Commerce which is strongly pushing back against that bill because its funding will be offset by closing tax loopholes, will have its way. They always do.
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lostlakehiker Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:34:05am |
Going off topic right away...it seems that the U.S. is thinking about how to cope in the event of a nuclear attack against some of our cities. An all out attack by, say, Russia would be unsurvivable, because even if you lived through the attack itself, the following nuclear winter would be severe beyond comprehension, with sub-zero temperatures even at the equator, for a while. There is no reason to think that Russia would launch such an attack; the ensuing winter would be doubly unsurvivable for them.
But one or two bombs, or a dozen, would be another story. The fallout won't kill you if you stay out of its way.
At least, you have a much better chance.
After the immediate blast of gamma rays, which can kill but that's irrelevant because the blast and heat will do that anyhow at close range, your problem is how to survive the next few hours and days.
(1) Get out of the "sun". Immediately. Duck behind a tree, a corner, anything. The fireball is chockablock with energy and you'll be burned if your skin is exposed to its light.
(2) Get indoors. Promptly. Any structure offers some protection from what's next: a rain of debris and dust, maybe with water too. Either way, the stuff is highly radioactive. Most of the radiation is coming from elements with a short half life: minutes, hours, days. Much of it has minimal penetrating power. Just don't get it on your skin and you've avoided the worst of it. Wash it off if some does get on; change clothes.
(3) Secure your drinking water supply. Toilet tanks are good drinking water. If you had warning, even a few minutes, you filled your bathtub and some containers.
(4) Build a shelter inside your home. Stack a table with books, magazines, etc. Stack more around the sides. Put your bed under the table. Every inch of shielding matters, and if lead isn't available, anything is better than nothing.
(5) Pay attention to sanitation. A run to the latrine, in a far corner of the house, is safe enough. Diarrhea can kill you just as easily as exotic causes.
(6) Sit tight. The clock is your friend. Elements with a half life of a week are 75% gone in two weeks. Elements with a half life of a day, effectively all gone in two weeks. You won't starve to death even if you have no food whatever.
(7) Fend for yourself. There won't be any doctors, any hospitals, any anything. Even if they're up and running, they're out of reach, because the fallout will have made all travel impossibly dangerous. And even if they were up and running and you could reach them, you'd be one more patient on a miles-long waiting list.
The kind of nuclear attack a North Korea can deliver to the U.S. is not a world-shattering blow. If most everybody outside the relatively small zone of total annihilation took the advice, casualties would be greatly reduced.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:35:01am |
re: #14 bloodstar
Which is possible, my friend is 25 now, she's been in the US since she was 11 years old.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
That googlelabs link at your blog is awesome. Lol.
---
Now, who thinks the GOP will hold START hostage now that DADT will be repealed?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:36:47am |
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lostlakehiker Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:37:12am |
re: #18 Varek Raith
That googlelabs link at your blog is awesome. Lol.
---Now, who thinks the GOP will hold START hostage now that DADT will be repealed?
Bluffs are pointless once they've been called. The GOP will allow a vote on START, I predict.
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Gus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:37:57am |
"You don't have to be straight to shoot straight." -- Barry Goldwater
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:39:19am |
re: #17 lostlakehiker
Going off topic right away...it seems that the U.S. is thinking about how to cope in the event of a nuclear attack against some of our cities. An all out attack by, say, Russia would be unsurvivable, because even if you lived through the attack itself, the following nuclear winter would be severe beyond comprehension, with sub-zero temperatures even at the equator, for a while. There is no reason to think that Russia would launch such an attack; the ensuing winter would be doubly unsurvivable for them.
But one or two bombs, or a dozen, would be another story. The fallout won't kill you if you stay out of its way.
At least, you have a much better chance.After the immediate blast of gamma rays, which can kill but that's irrelevant because the blast and heat will do that anyhow at close range, your problem is how to survive the next few hours and days.
(1) Get out of the "sun". Immediately. Duck behind a tree, a corner, anything. The fireball is chockablock with energy and you'll be burned if your skin is exposed to its light.
(2) Get indoors. Promptly. Any structure offers some protection from what's next: a rain of debris and dust, maybe with water too. Either way, the stuff is highly radioactive. Most of the radiation is coming from elements with a short half life: minutes, hours, days. Much of it has minimal penetrating power. Just don't get it on your skin and you've avoided the worst of it. Wash it off if some does get on; change clothes.
(3) Secure your drinking water supply. Toilet tanks are good drinking water. If you had warning, even a few minutes, you filled your bathtub and some containers.
(4) Build a shelter inside your home. Stack a table with books, magazines, etc. Stack more around the sides. Put your bed under the table. Every inch of shielding matters, and if lead isn't available, anything is better than nothing.
(5) Pay attention to sanitation. A run to the latrine, in a far corner of the house, is safe enough. Diarrhea can kill you just as easily as exotic causes.
(6) Sit tight. The clock is your friend. Elements with a half life of a week are 75% gone in two weeks. Elements with a half life of a day, effectively all gone in two weeks. You won't starve to death even if you have no food whatever.
(7) Fend for yourself. There won't be any doctors, any hospitals, any anything. Even if they're up and running, they're out of reach, because the fallout will have made all travel impossibly dangerous. And even if they were up and running and you could reach them, you'd be one more patient on a miles-long waiting list.
The kind of nuclear attack a North Korea can deliver to the U.S. is not a world-shattering blow. If most everybody outside the relatively small zone of total annihilation took the advice, casualties would be greatly reduced.
I plan on mutating awesome super powers thankyouverymuch.
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jamesfirecat Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:40:05am |
re: #21 lostlakehiker
Bluffs are pointless once they've been called. The GOP will allow a vote on START, I predict.
You can't filibuster a treaty.
The problem is that you need 67 votes to pass it.
So the question is not will they allow a vote on it, but will they vote for it?
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:43:35am |
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a leading opponent of the measure, said just before the vote said before the vote that "Today's a very sad day." He blamed elite liberals with no military experience for pushing their social agenda on troops during wartime."They will do what is asked of them," McCain said of service members. "But don't think there won't be a great cost."
What a bitter, out of touch dickwad. We dodged a bullet in
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Gus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:44:46am |
It's not over yet but it's closer now. The repeal of DADT that is. Of course the homophobes already think that the military will turn into "The Village People" overnight already.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:44:51am |
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simoom Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:45:07am |
re: #3 Walter L. Newton
And they the Democrats had one idiot on their side...
Other no-shows were Jim Bunning, Orrin Hatch and one of my senators, Judd Gregg. It will be interesting to see if any of the four are there for final passage at 3.
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:45:25am |
re: #29 Varek Raith
For a second there, I was afraid you hadn't dodged it!
/
lol, certainly looks that way
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jaunte Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:47:40am |
re: #26 Stanley Sea
He has a pretty low opinion of the adaptive capabilities of our troops.
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Gus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:49:14am |
re: #26 Stanley Sea
What a bitter, out of touch dickwad. We dodged a bullet in
Elite liberals? He must have missed the part where gay military service members were lobbying to have DADT repealed -- none of which I would consider elitist snobs. It's a cheap argument to blame liberals let alone "elite" liberals.
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:50:55am |
re: #33 simoom
Weirdest McCain non sequitur of the debate today:
[Video]
I seriously do not UNDERSTAND that fool. wtf
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Obdicut Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:52:12am |
re: #35 Stanley Sea
Indeed.
We do have Marines at Reed with no limbs.
And some of those Marines are probably gay.
So let's let them serve without living in fear that they'll be discovered and drummed out of the military.
While we're at it, let's let them marry their sweethearts.
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Varek Raith Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:52:32am |
re: #33 simoom
Weirdest McCain non sequitur of the debate today:
[Video]
[Link: images1.memegenerator.net...]
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:53:51am |
re: #36 Obdicut
Indeed.
We do have Marines at Reed with no limbs.
And some of those Marines are probably gay.
So let's let them serve without living in fear that they'll be discovered and drummed out of the military.
While we're at it, let's let them marry their sweethearts.
We have a senator in the Capitol Building with no spine, and his brain may be AWOL.
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Gus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:55:07am |
re: #33 simoom
Weirdest McCain non sequitur of the debate today:
[Video]
That has to be the biggest bunch of bullshit ever to come out of McCain's mouth.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:56:33am |
re: #40 Gus 802
That has to be the biggest bunch of bullshit ever to come out of McCain's mouth.
But wait! There's more! (Simoom's next post.)
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Gus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:57:03am |
re: #39 simoom
More McGrumpy:
[Video]
Especially when you get special treatment in the Navy because your daddy was an admiral.
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blueraven Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:58:13am |
re: #33 simoom
Right...because no gay soldier ever lost a limb.//
Gay retired Staff Sgt. Eric Alva, the first Marine wounded in combat in Iraq, lost his leg there.
[Link: jerseyshorereality.com...]
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:58:26am |
And did he have to pick today to wear a lavender tie? (Or is it just on my monitor...?)
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calochortus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:58:50am |
Just a quick drive-by posting to agree with what appears to be the majority opinion here. I'm happy DADT appears to be on its way out the door.
And I can't believe how mean-spirited some people are towards children who were brought here and now get to exist in limbo. Jeesh. How selfish can we be?
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kirkspencer Sat, Dec 18, 2010 10:58:56am |
re: #38 wrenchwench
We have a senator in the Capitol Building with no spine, and his brain may be AWOL.
Only one?
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:00:04am |
re: #46 kirkspencer
Only one?
Well, no, there are plenty, but I'm just giving McCain his due at the moment.
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simoom Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:01:39am |
Well, I'm off to "partake in the salons of Georgetown" (going into town to pick up some catfood :P). I'll be back for the 3pm vote.
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blueraven Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:02:16am |
re: #39 simoom
From the LIBERAL BASTION...high five's all around!
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:07:11am |
re: #35 Stanley Sea
I seriously do not UNDERSTAND that fool. wtf
LOL, check his cache, he's probably been watching 2guys1stump for research purposes.
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Gus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:11:05am |
Yeah. That's why John McCain divorced his first wife, Carol Shepp, so he could marry into the Hensley family. No elitism there obviously.
"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." -- John McCain
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allegro Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:15:14am |
re: #51 Gus 802
If my husband had EVER spoken to me like that, my ass would have been out the door so fast. I don't get why this woman puts up with it. It can't be for financial reasons since she's the one with the big bucks.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:26:44am |
re: #5 marjoriemoon
Has that ever really been on the table? I mean, outside of South Florida.
I firmly believe that the GOP could compete for the Latino vote if they put some energy into it. Bush Jr. certainly leaned that way, but didn't have the party support.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:27:50am |
re: #7 allegro
I have an increasing affection for Scott Brown. Would that his influence spread throughout his party and bring about a righteous change for sanity, comity, and forward-thinking among the backward, hateful theocrats so that this country could once again be a leader in the world.
I know, I know... I can dream though can't I?
He's representing his constituents, and he appears to be rational and prone to sudden outbursts of bipartisanship. I'm delightfully startled.
I should have known though. He drives a truck!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:31:06am |
re: #26 Stanley Sea
What a bitter, out of touch dickwad. We dodged a bullet in
Elite liberals with no military experience like...David Petraeus?
Hell, I'll take him! Us elite liberals need more guys like him!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:32:24am |
re: #32 jaunte
He has a pretty low opinion of the adaptive capabilities of our troops.
I'm always intrigued by people who figure they can make men march in formation, give up personal freedoms, and run TOWARD the gunfire, but couldn't possibly get them to shower with a black guy, or a gay guy, or whatever.
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SpaceJesus Sat, Dec 18, 2010 11:32:44am |
man im gonna be on an airplane when the final vote comes around. damn.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 18, 2010 12:37:24pm |
That's it! DADT is dead. Final vote 65-31.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 18, 2010 12:45:11pm |
re: #57 SpaceJesus
man im gonna be on an airplane when the final vote comes around. damn.
What does SpaceJesus need an airplane for?
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 18, 2010 1:47:14pm |
re: #45 calochortus
Just a quick drive-by posting to agree with what appears to be the majority opinion here. I'm happy DADT appears to be on its way out the door.
And I can't believe how mean-spirited some people are towards children who were brought here and now get to exist in limbo. Jeesh. How selfish can we be?
(Sings) You ain't seen nothin' yet! B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.
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Basho Sat, Dec 18, 2010 1:48:49pm |
Hooray! The military with 21st century technology has finally gotten rid of it's 12th century personnel restrictions!
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Kid A Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:16:08pm |
re: #58 Charles
An early Christmas gift to us all. "All" being the sane, 2+2=4 types. I can't wait to see what all the kook sites have to say about this. Get your popcorn ready!!!!
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Kid A Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:23:02pm |
I'm pleasantly surprised at this. Allahpundit via Hot Air had this to say about DADT...
I support the move, but if you don’t, look at it this way: As Gates has often said, if it didn’t happen here it probably would have happened in the courts. Civilian control of the military is one thing, judicial control is something else, so the fact that repeal now wears a democratic halo will hopefully make it more tolerable to skeptics inside the branches. For your enjoyment (or irritation), via Think Progress, here’s video of a very peevish Maverick grumbling in his floor speech today about liberal civilians from coast to coast high-fiving over this. True enough, but it ain’t just liberals — support for repeal is upwards of 80 percent in some polls — and it ain’t just civilians. Exit quotation via another Republican senator from Arizona, cited today on the floor by Harry Reid: “You don’t have to be straight to shoot straight.”
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Kid A Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:32:34pm |
WAIT!!!!! Here are some juicy responses over at Hot Air...
1.) This isn’t over by a long shot. The “gay demands” have only begun.
GarandFan
2.) Expect Moo-cow-ski to take a sharp left turn.
Some women just look like a b!tch; Lisa is one.
3.) This poor sick, amoral, valueless country is terminally ill.
rplat
4.) You. must. be. high. The Scriptures have been revered by mankind for millenia as the highest source of wisdom, communication from and knowledge of God and His plan for Creation, not to mention the gold standard (See the Ten Commandments) of upright and moral human behavior. But because you say so, poof, the Bible, The Word of God, is now less than worthless.
5.) Frankly this rises to the level of impeachment during time of war.
Oh, and for Brown, I see it *is* the Kennedy seat. Enjoy your next two years, because you aren’t getting re-elected now.
18-1
6.) Does everyone get a vote?
I vote for the rainbow florescent suit for night patrol
7.) The military was one of the last stands against the homosexual agenda and now it is done. I truly believe that this country is going to receive a chastisement for all that we have done.
Can't you all just feel the love here??!!
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Kid A Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:51:43pm |
Over at Tea Bag Land (Hot Air) it just gets better. Here are some more responses to the DADT repeal. I can not thank God enough that I will never again vote Republican as long as this element of utter stupidity is a part of it.
1.) When do the butt commandos go into action?
2.) Also, In Iraq it is ordinary for men to walk down the street arm in arm. Darn they are all gay. Don’t believe that? Well, why do Arab men kiss one another on their cheeks?
3.) Perhaps some high ranking general will come out as a tootie-frutie. At least that will add some entertainment value to all this.
JackM
4.) What’s next….?
Crossdressers and transexuals?
Gay bars on base and all male mixers?
How long before two soldiers demand to have a full dress gay wedding or a gay cultural center?
“Why doesn’t the base PX sell astro-glide ”
5.) What’s that over there in the corner, is that a humpbot in the shower staring at your junk. Or is it a TSA grouper?
Unintended consequences.
tarpon
6.) I don’t think there will be homosexuals for very much longer, perhaps another 20 or 30 years before a cure is found. I think during this time it’s good to accept these people as full members of the community including military service, but at the same time educate other servicemen to the real dangers of HIV AIDS and other diseases they carry.
Ted Torgerson
7.) Im sure this will make the Jihadis very happy.
William Amos on December 18, 2010 at 2:04 PM
How do you say “sissy” in Fārsi…?
Seven Percent Solution
8.) This is just the beginning, the homosexual agenda won’t be happy until we have “fisting czars” in every classroom.
Rebar
Absolutely vomit inducing, these fucktards. -Kid A
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:54:45pm |
re: #26 Stanley Sea
What a bitter, out of touch dickwad. We dodged a bullet in
Equal rights under the law = McCain has a sad
Cry mccain! Cry cry for the queer invasion
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:54:49pm |
re: #66 Kid A
6.) I don’t think there will be homosexuals for very much longer, perhaps another 20 or 30 years before a cure is found. I think during this time it’s good to accept these people as full members of the community including military service, but at the same time educate other servicemen to the real dangers of HIV AIDS and other diseases they carry.Ted Torgerson
What society needs is a cure for this kind of stupidity.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:56:08pm |
re: #66 Kid A
Funny thing of course is, that there are plenty of gay guys who are more man than these keyboard jocks will ever be, lol
let's see, gay marine versus mamma's basement boy on Hot Air
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:57:28pm |
re: #65 Kid A
this is the best
This poor sick, amoral, valueless country is terminally ill.
Notice how it's always queers that bring guys like this up? There could be rioting in the streets and 50% unemployment, and they'll still be talking about gays
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 18, 2010 2:58:03pm |
re: #70 WindUpBird
this is the best
Notice how it's always queers that bring guys like this up?There could be rioting in the streets and 50% unemployment, and they'll still be talking about gays
wow, that didn't work.
notice how guys like this always bring QUEERS up.
I haven't had caffiene yet :(
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:01:33pm |
re: #69 WindUpBird
Funny thing of course is, that there are plenty of gay guys who are more man than these keyboard jocks will ever be, lol
let's see, gay marine versus mamma's basement boy on Hot Air
No shit. Mamma's skirt is big enough to protect several basement boys.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:02:26pm |
re: #70 WindUpBird
this is the best
Notice how it's always queers that bring guys like this up? There could be rioting in the streets and 50% unemployment, and they'll still be talking about gays
Gays are getting more real sex than they are, they're obviously jealous.
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rwmofo Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:11:43pm |
Credit to DAVID M. HERSZENHORN from the NY Times for reporting the DREAM Act vote in a non-partisan way. Very uncharacteristic for that newspaper.
"The vote by 55-41 in favor of the bill, which is known as the Dream Act, effectively kills it for this year, and its fate is uncertain."
"Five Democrats joined Republicans in opposing the bill. They were Democratic Senators Max Baucus of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Jon Tester of Montana.
And three Republicans joined the balance of Democrats in favor of it: Robert Bennett of Utah, Richard Lugar of Indiana, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska."
If the Democrat Party had united on this vote, the bill would have moved forward.
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Henchman 25 Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:33:23pm |
re: #75 rwmofo
Downding for the "Democrat Party" snipe again.
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Spocomptonite Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:41:30pm |
re: #75 rwmofo
downding for blaming 5 senators in a party that is never that united anyway instead of the 38 Republicans voting against it for DREAM not passing.
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Spocomptonite Sat, Dec 18, 2010 3:46:46pm |
re: #77 Spocomptonite
downding for blaming 5 senators in a party that is never that united anyway instead of the
3836 Republicans voting against it for DREAM not passing.
PIMF. Or rather, simple arithmetic is my friend.
And to be technical, I blame the 5 Democrats and 36 Republicans equally.
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Kid A Sat, Dec 18, 2010 4:49:27pm |
The folks at "Americans For Truth" are not very happy about the decision. Seems that those dastardly "fag" Marines might kiss in public in uniform and we all know that just means Putin is itching to push the button. Click below...
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Jaerik Sat, Dec 18, 2010 5:57:59pm |
FreeRepublic's response to DADT repeal is to go on a Stalin-like purge of all site members who aren't openly homophobic.
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srjh Sat, Dec 18, 2010 7:49:37pm |
Great news on DADT.
The toy-throwing from Hot Air and Freeperland is as expected, if a little hard to distinguish from satire.
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steve Sat, Dec 18, 2010 9:56:09pm |
If you want to come to this country I have no problems with that. Just do it like my mother did. Walk through the doors, apply for entry and then jump through all the hoops to get your citizenship. If you do not want to do that then get out and change your own country.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 19, 2010 1:19:29am |
re: #36 Obdicut
Indeed.
We do have Marines at Reed with no limbs.
And some of those Marines are probably gay.
So let's let them serve without living in fear that they'll be discovered and drummed out of the military.
While we're at it, let's let them marry their sweethearts.
this 4ever
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Dec 19, 2010 1:21:18am |
re: #75 rwmofo
Credit to DAVID M. HERSZENHORN from the NY Times for reporting the DREAM Act vote in a non-partisan way. Very uncharacteristic for that newspaper.
"The vote by 55-41 in favor of the bill, which is known as the Dream Act, effectively kills it for this year, and its fate is uncertain."
"Five Democrats joined Republicans in opposing the bill. They were Democratic Senators Max Baucus of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Jon Tester of Montana.
And three Republicans joined the balance of Democrats in favor of it: Robert Bennett of Utah, Richard Lugar of Indiana, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska."
If the Democrat Party had united on this vote, the bill would have moved forward.
i don't know if you realize this
you're the kick-around boy
I just thought you should know :)
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shai_au Sun, Dec 19, 2010 3:40:25am |
From Hot Air:
I don’t think there will be homosexuals for very much longer, perhaps another 20 or 30 years before a cure is found. I think during this time it’s good to accept these people as full members of the community including military service, but at the same time educate other servicemen to the real dangers of HIV AIDS and other diseases they carry.
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