Hawaii Gov. Abercrombie: ‘I Was Here When That Baby Was Born’

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Los Angeles Times writer Michael Memoli has more on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie’s announced intention to debunk the Birthers:

Reporting from Honolulu — Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961, and he has been aggravated by the so-called birther movement, which alleges Obama was not born in the United States and thus should be expelled from office.

Now Abercrombie has an office of his own — he became governor of Hawaii on Dec. 6. — and he intends to do something about it.

What, exactly, is unclear. But in an interview this week at the state Capitol, he left little doubt that torpedoing the conspiracy theorists was a priority.

“What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons,” said Abercrombie, 72. “Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

Abercrombie’s exactly right, of course. But this isn’t just a run of the mill conspiracy theory, it’s an astoundingly brain-dead conspiracy theory, driven in no small part by sheer racism. It’s doubtful that any amount of evidence or rational argument will ever “torpedo” this bad craziness, because it isn’t rational and it isn’t based on evidence. And a whole lot of people on the right believe it with all their hearts.

It should always be noted that one of the main proponents of this idiocy in the right wing blogosphere, right from the beginning, has been Pamela Geller. Who could ever forget her “technical expert” known only as “techdude,” and his hilariously bad “forensic analysis?”

EXCLUSIVE: ATLAS TECH EXPERT DECLARES OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY - Atlas Shrugs

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177 comments

1 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 11:56:43am
2 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:02:51pm
3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:02:55pm

This and the "stolen election" have to be the two most astoundingly idiotic conspiracy theories out there.

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:04:23pm

As I said last night, I truly appreciate where Abercrombie is coming from, but I'm not sure there's a whole lot he can do.

Lingle's approach was, I think, correct, and it got her absolutely nowhere. And she was a Republican.

This guy is a Democrat, and an admitted friend of the family. He's completely without credibility as far as the nuts are concerned. Also, NOTHING he can release will convince them that they are mistaken. I remember when we had a few nirthers around here. They'd go on for hours about how a 'Certificate of Live Birth' didn't mean that Obama was actually born in Honolulu, even though it said he was born in Honolulu.

What I would like is for any politicians or prominent people espousing this stupidity to meet with severe coolness from their colleagues, but as for convincing the crazy people of the country...I don't think Abercrombie has a hope in heck.

5 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:06:12pm

re: #1 MikeySDCA

There is no convincing lunatics, and there is no one more determined than one who believes he has uncovered a conspiracy.

agreed...put the evidence out there, make your statements and leave it at that...otherwise you get sucked into a whack-a-mole thing and that's just unbecoming for an elected official...pressing the issue seen futile

6 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:06:50pm

I have two birth certificates. Both have the same information on them. One was issued by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and has only the basic information on it. The other was issued by the hospital. It too has the basic information on it in beautiful calligraphy. I hate to think what someone with a twisted mind would think.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:15:58pm

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

Calligraphy is a tool of socialism, obviously.

8 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:18:50pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth
You think? Maybe that is why one of my former employers gave me heck when I took both of them into work as verification. I now use the one from the state.

9 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:24:02pm

Well, I am off to do my part to advance yet another Islamic conspiracy this Christmas.

Gonna go help grandma make marmalade filled crescent rolls. Don't tell the Shrieking Harpy.

10 Henchman 25  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:29:19pm

HE'S IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!111!!11TY
//

11 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:33:24pm

I wonder why so many conspiracy theories are so obviously slanted towards fitting a right-wing worldview lately. Take global warming denialists for instance: Those trashing scientific research as a big hoax trying to scare earth's population into a One-World-Government are the same people who will believe any scare story out there regarding water fluoridation or "chemtrails".

The only one that I can think of as of late that seems to resonate more with the left is the whole "cell phone towers cause cancer" spiel.

12 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:37:33pm

ahaha "atlas tech expert"

13 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:39:27pm

re: #11 000G
"cell phone towers cause cancer." That is absolutely silly.

14 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:41:59pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

"cell phone towers cause cancer." That is absolutely silly.

cell phones cause abnormal drooling...not the same thing tho

15 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:45:47pm

The only cure I see for birthers is psychotherapy. Of course, it's difficult to tell who could use the therapy -- birthers or the rest of us normal people.

16 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:48:09pm

re: #15 Gus 802

The only cure I see for birthers is psychotherapy. Of course, it's difficult to tell who could use the therapy -- birthers or the rest of us normal people.

birthers?
lobotomy...problem solved

17 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:51:33pm

re: #16 albusteve

birthers?
lobotomy...problem solved

Hmm. There could be a specific brain chemical imbalance. Maybe what we need is a new pill:

Birtherol™

"One pill every 8 hours and your birther thoughts are gone."

18 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:52:37pm

Join Birthernon™ You're only 12 steps away from freedom.

/

19 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:54:07pm

re: #17 Gus 802

Hmm. There could be a specific brain chemical imbalance. Maybe what we need is a new pill:

Birtherol™

"One pill every 8 hours and your birther thoughts are gone."

First, the lightbulb has to want to change.

20 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:54:57pm

re: #18 Gus 802

Join Birthernon™ You're only 12 steps away from freedom.

/

good one...I was going to suggest some type of mass hypnosis, think of the possibilities, manipulating votes etc

21 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 12:56:12pm

I'm out for a few

22 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:01:27pm

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

First, the lightbulb has to want to change.

Like quitting smoking. Could also employ something like Birther Transplant Surgery. It's a type of brain surgery that replaces the Birther Region of the brain and is replaced by a genetically modified slice from the brain a chimpanzee. Or maybe an iBirthermaker™ which is like a pacemaker but sends electrical impulses to the Birther Region of the brain when the patient has birther thoughts.

//

23 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:01:42pm

The only thing that's going to make Republicans give up the birther conspiracy is to start working on real policies and real world solutions to America's problems. That's not going to happen anytime soon.

24 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:02:56pm

Birther thoughts! ZAP!

25 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:03:29pm

Traitor complains of itchy blanket and mandatory underwear....
Wikileaks suspect Bradley Manning's health 'declining'

He complained to Mr House last week that the blankets he is given are so heavy and uncomfortable they feel like carpet squares.

"He said he would frequently wake up in the morning with carpet burn, a problem exacerbated by the fact that he is required to sleep in his boxers," the journalist said.

26 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:03:50pm

re: #16 albusteve

birthers?
lobotomy...problem solved

Hmm. A Birtherectomy!

/

27 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:04:43pm

Shamir up to Shenanigans again: [Link: hurryupharry.org...]

That news needs the additional info that Shamir seems to deny any formal connection (that he supposedly alleged according to the story in Harry's Place): [Link: www.boingboing.net...]

28 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:05:28pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Traitor complains of itchy blanket and mandatory underwear...
Wikileaks suspect Bradley Manning's health 'declining'

[Link: my.firedoglake.com...]

29 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:05:34pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

The only thing that's going to make Republicans give up the birther conspiracy is to start working on real policies and real world solutions to America's problems. That's not going to happen anytime soon.

No perceived gain in that right now. Proposing something other than opposition causes friction between the crazies demanding purity and the sane people who want results. The GOP will have serious trouble taking action till the crazies get taken down a peg or two.

Also, I thought about what you said earlier regarding that pilot. You had a good point. He should have just blasted those security problems all over YouTube.

31 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:08:28pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

"cell phone towers cause cancer." That is absolutely silly.

It's pretty virulant, though: [Link: www.google.com...]

32 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:08:53pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Traitor complains of itchy blanket and mandatory underwear...
Wikileaks suspect Bradley Manning's health 'declining'

re: #28 000G

[Link: my.firedoglake.com...]

Boo freakin' hoo. He should have thought about that before he decided to leak all those files to Assange.

33 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:09:57pm

re: #30 000G

See also: U.N. to investigate treatment of Bradley Manning

Who's going to lead that investigation? Syria or Lybia?

/

34 researchok  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:10:05pm

re: #15 Gus 802

The only cure I see for birthers is psychotherapy. Of course, it's difficult to tell who could use the therapy -- birthers or the rest of us normal people.

Psychotherapy can't work- they desperately wan't to believe.

35 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:10:47pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

re: #28 000G

Boo freakin' hoo. He should have thought about that before he decided to leak all those files to Assange.

Technically we do not know yet whether it was him who did it. Apart from the chat protocol, I haven't heard of any evidence yet, either.

36 Gus  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:11:10pm

Or maybe Uganda or Sudan. /

37 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:12:10pm
38 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:15:40pm

re: #28 000G

[Link: my.firedoglake.com...]

I can't believe he's only in for 50 years. Should be life. I hope they up the charges before trial.

39 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:16:24pm

re: #30 000G

See also: U.N. to investigate treatment of Bradley Manning

top official
formal investigation
torture expert
blah blah
sternly worded letter
the UN blows chunks...what a bunch of hypocritical, death enabling, perverse observing, money grubbing slime balls

40 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:16:37pm

re: #30 000G

See also: U.N. to investigate treatment of Bradley Manning

Ah, the human Rights Council with such lovely countries as Suadi Arabia.

41 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:16:56pm

re: #35 000G

Technically we do not know yet whether it was him who did it. Apart from the chat protocol, I haven't heard of any evidence yet, either.

Manning took credit for the theft of classified information in online chats and emails. There's very little doubt that he did it.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

42 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:16:58pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

I can't believe he's only in for 50 years. Should be life. I hope they up the charges before trial.

50 years in an institution will effectively wreck him. Society will move on, and he'll be a stranger in a strange land once he comes out.

43 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:17:11pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

I can't believe he's only in for 50 years. Should be life. I hope they up the charges before trial.

52 years, I believe.

44 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:17:18pm

CARPET SQUARES!
TORTURE!

45 researchok  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:17:44pm

Birthirism isn't a compulsion people have to deal with or a disorder that is unwanted or resented.

Birthirism is sought out, welcomed and embraced. There are communities of like minded people who support and endorse each other's beliefs. Unlike religion, birthirism requires no orthodoxy in in tenet or dogma- only a belief in the core, identifying tenet.

Birthirism is just another example of mainstreaming a conspiracy theory

46 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:17:49pm

re: #44 albusteve

CARPET SQUARES!
TORTURE!

Retief reference? :)

47 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:18:20pm

re: #41 Charles

Manning took credit for the theft of classified information in online chats and emails. There's very little doubt that he did it.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

and his chit chat is solid evidence in court

48 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:18:28pm

re: #41 Charles

Manning took credit for the theft of classified information in online chats and emails. There's very little doubt that he did it.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

No idea what e-mails ABC is referencing in there. I only know about the protocol Lamo handed over to the authorities.

49 researchok  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:20:01pm

re: #41 Charles

Manning took credit for the theft of classified information in online chats and emails. There's very little doubt that he did it.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

You can be sure there will be a new theory claiming Manning was set up, a patsy.

Another Oswald.

50 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:20:43pm

re: #47 albusteve

and his chit chat is solid evidence in court

Would it count as more than just testimony, though?

51 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:21:48pm

re: #36 Gus 802

Or maybe Uganda or Sudan. /

If it were Uganda, the 'mistreatment' charges would be thrown out. They don't want to see America hobbled because we've been helping to equipment and fund the Ugandan troops presently kicking Islamist ass in Mogadishu.

52 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:22:18pm

re: #49 researchok

You can be sure there will be a new theory claiming Manning was set up, a patsy.

Another Oswald.

Sure as water's wet, that'll happen.

53 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:23:55pm

re: #50 000G

Would it count as more than just testimony, though?

I don't know...why?, he copped to the offense....his trial should set a record for briefness

54 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:26:32pm

re: #53 albusteve

I don't know...why?, he copped to the offense...his trial should set a record for briefness

If he does not deny it when the trial actually starts, yes. And if he does deny it, I wonder how the prosecution is going to present the case in order to convict him. If they only have his bragging, I figure it will be tough. But of course I don't know whether Manning will want to take that risk and deny the act, so it's idle speculation. I am sure the prosecution is considering the possibility and is right now working on getting together as much evidence as they can above and beyond Manning's confession by bragging.

55 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:29:14pm

Reading up on the NKVD Order No. 00447. Scary stuff.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:32:31pm

re: #55 000G

Reading up on the NKVD Order No. 00447. Scary stuff.

Ay. That's not Christmas reading.

57 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:34:06pm

re: #55 000G

Reading up on the NKVD Order No. 00447. Scary stuff.

Which one was that?

58 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:34:42pm

re: #54 000G

If he does not deny it when the trial actually starts, yes. And if he does deny it, I wonder how the prosecution is going to present the case in order to convict him. If they only have his bragging, I figure it will be tough. But of course I don't know whether Manning will want to take that risk and deny the act, so it's idle speculation. I am sure the prosecution is considering the possibility and is right now working on getting together as much evidence as they can above and beyond Manning's confession by bragging.

I'm sure the IT guys can pin him as well...he was probably yanking this stuff from a designated computer with his own codes etc...he's baked

59 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:35:23pm

re: #58 albusteve

I'm sure the IT guys can pin him as well...he was probably yanking this stuff from a designated computer with his own codes etc...he's baked

Quite Concur.

60 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:35:23pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

Ay. That's not Christmas reading.

To me, it is redeeming enough that I actually can read about this, now. The really depressing stuff is all of the history that I cannot read about but should. Trying to imagine what is still kept under lock and key in archives or of which the evidence has been destroyed… now that ruins a festive mood.

61 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:36:56pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Which one was that?

The one "About repression of former kulaks, criminals, and other anti-Soviet elements" (I am reading the German Wikipedia article which is much better, though).

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:43:12pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Which one was that?

Mass killings in Belarus.

63 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:46:09pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Mass killings in Belarus.

Not just Belarus, all over the Soviet Union. Nikita Khrushchev, then First Secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine, was responsible for thousands of murdered "enemies of the state" within 00447.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:51:52pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Mass killings in Belarus.

Ah, now I remember. The irony of the deployment of so many NKVD units to the western parts of the USSR was that most of them were able to carry in their reign of terror for 4 years (moving west in 1939) only to be overrun by the Germans in 1941. Most of the NKVD killers were in their own turn slaughtered by the Germans who had their own order to annihilate any NKVD units encountered.

65 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:53:40pm

BBL, family Christmas event.

66 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:54:42pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

BBL, family Christmas event.

Ah, the annual lighting of the Ewok.
With fire.
Still eeevil.

67 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 1:57:10pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Ah, now I remember. The irony of the deployment of so many NKVD units to the western parts of the USSR was that most of them were able to carry in their reign of terror for 4 years (moving west in 1939) only to be overrun by the Germans in 1941. Most of the NKVD killers were in their own turn slaughtered by the Germans who had their own order to annihilate any NKVD units encountered.

I have been reading that 00447 actually was carried out very harshly in the Russian Far East. But of course it was only a fraction of the whole that was the Great Terror.

And AFAIK, Political Commissars were only required to be members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, not of the NKVD.

68 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 2:14:06pm

last night Mrs Obama was at NORAD............. (run around screaming.....but sooo cute)

[Link: www.wnyc.org...]

69 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 2:31:39pm
70 albusteve  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 2:50:29pm

re: #69 MikeySDCA

seems not

71 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 2:53:06pm

re: #69 MikeySDCA

Nothing like a cheerful little read. The quotas, especially the Category 1, are puzzling. The quotas are maximums, and the reason for a ceiling on shootings is not immediately apparent.

From Yezhov, we can dismiss humanitarian concerns. A shortage of ammunition seems unlikely.

Any thoughts?

In the original order, the quotas were expressively called mere guiding values based on statistical data that nevertheless could not independently be overstepped. I think the quotas were an instrument by the central government in order to keep the operation under control. Raising of quotas had to be approved by the Lubyanka. Lots of local party leaders requested raising of quotas for their district in a competition to deliver the highest number of purged delinquents to the central government. These requests usually were granted.

72 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 2:55:20pm

Recommended for English readers: [Link: www.massviolence.org...]

74 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:13:57pm

Have people already discussed this article from Haaretz which claims that Wikileaks is going to publish Israeli cables?

Your text to link...

75 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:14:41pm

Doh- forgot to change the link title.... Awkward.

76 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:19:45pm

re: #74 Alexzander

It looks like Wikileaks is telling us what we already know again. Doesn't look like there's any new information there.

77 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:22:26pm

"Sorry 'bout that"
Report: Incoming Mossad chief to apologize for use of U.K. passports in Dubai hit

The Daily Telegraph reports that Tamir Pardo will also pledge to British officials that Israeli agents will never again use fake U.K. documents in overseas operations.
78 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:26:28pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I was just reading about that story on Haaretz too.

79 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:37:26pm
80 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:41:42pm

re: #68 wozzablog

last night Mrs Obama was at NORAD... (run around screaming...but sooo cute)

[Link: www.wnyc.org...]

Man, that is adorable.

81 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:52:36pm

So... this dude claims...

‘I was here when that baby was born.’

... I thought so. Now everything is falling in place. So, Abercrombie must be the one that has been grooming Barak Obama for this manchurian presidency. He must be the one that arranged for Barak to meet and become tutored by Frank Marshall Davis, who then sent him overseas to receive training in Islamic doctrine... and then the Ayers/Emmanuel cabal, in conjunction with Abercrombie, had him returned to the United States, a tabula rasa, a clean slate, void of any exceptional Americans ideas, and the Marxist doctrine was programmed into him and he was released in the city of Chicago, disguised as a humble community organizer, but little did his circle of friends know that this was a decades long subversive plot to bring down the United States by introducing healthy food into the schools of our country.

Dastardly plans.

82 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:54:49pm

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

While I read reading that I was trying to think of what I could add, but I think you've got it all covered. All the pieces have come together.

83 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 3:56:35pm

re: #82 Alexzander

While I read reading that I was trying to think of what I could add, but I think you've got it all covered. All the pieces have come together.

I have a few minor details to work out, I'm trying to figure out how the shape-shifting alien lizards fix into all this, but in general, your right, I got this pegged solid.

84 BishopX  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:02:30pm

re: #82 Alexzander

Meh, He missed how it was all a mossad plot.

85 Amory Blaine  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:08:20pm

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was “not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president”

Hmm half of republicans are stupid and racist. This news will change nothing.

86 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:08:49pm

re: #84 BishopX

I think it's probably some nested meta-matrix scenario, where all of the previous story was a mossad plot, but then we can go one level deeper, where the whole political game is is played out in this false enslaving 'reality, created by the Gnostic/Reptilian overlords.

87 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:10:24pm

My ability to write is awful right now - I think I need to take a nap. Stressful day.

88 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:15:58pm

re: #85 Amory Blaine

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was “not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president”

Hmm half of republicans are stupid and racist. This news will change nothing.

I'm still having trouble with those numbers. My brain simply will not wrap around it.

89 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:17:07pm

Abercrombie is an excitable guy. He ran his recent gubernatorial campaign on a lot of emotional reactions to the the HI budget cuts. ~~Teacher Furloughs! Robbing The Children! No toilet paper in the schools!~~
Stuff like that.

90 Amory Blaine  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:24:31pm

re: #89 prairiefire

Abercrombie is an excitable guy. He ran his recent gubernatorial campaign on a lot of emotional reactions to the the HI budget cuts. ~~Teacher Furloughs! Robbing The Children! No toilet paper in the schools!~~
Stuff like that.

Yeah and the other side doesn't run on hyperbole huh? Lay off teachers or we'll all be slaves to the Chinese!!! Paying garbage men is robbing your childrens future!!!
Excuse me but nothing compares to the emotional hyperbole of the right.

91 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 4:24:32pm

The Rock em Sock Em Robots went over pretty well today.

92 Kronocide  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:15:02pm

re: #90 Amory Blaine

Yeah and the other side doesn't run on hyperbole huh? Lay off teachers or we'll all be slaves to the Chinese!!! Paying garbage men is robbing your childrens future!!!
Excuse me but nothing compares to the emotional hyperbole of the right.

You are correct about 'the right' but GOP candidates in HI are more... well.... what's that word..... moderate. Maybe it's because it's a blue state, maybe it's because they really are moderate or just aligned with the community. Either way I was glad to not find any of that ucky GOP stuff that was making the news on their platforms.

But I sure as hell was asking myself if they were birthers/creationist/AGW deniers. The taint is there, I don't know if it will ever go away.

93 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:30:37pm
94 freetoken  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:31:20pm
95 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:34:10pm

The President's weekly address with the First Lady:[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

96 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:56:27pm

...We can still make fun of birthers.....right?
Someone's going to ruin this for me ...I just know it!
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!
...No..I didn't get a new gun!
But ...I'm now a LIFE TIME MEMBER!!!
...Of ...everything!!

97 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:57:27pm

Hello LGF. I survived family Christmas.

Hope you all are well and had a fun day. (no, I didn't get my iPad - those things I must purchase for myself. sad)

98 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:57:36pm

re: #87 Alexzander

Have more HAM!!

99 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 5:59:03pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Hello LGF. I survived family Christmas.

Hope you all are well and had a fun day. (no, I didn't get my iPad - those things I must purchase for myself. sad)

It should be a Me-Pad then!
Merry Christmas!

100 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:02:16pm

re: #99 reloadingisnotahobby

It should be a Me-Pad then!
Merry Christmas!

I did receive lots of lotions and potions. That works for the non-tech side of my life.

101 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:02:39pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

{{Stanley}} I guess you have to save your pennies. My daughter saved up for an I Pod touch. We provided for texting, so technically she has a phone. She is over the moon.

102 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:02:44pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

I did receive lots of lotions and potions. That works for the non-tech side of my life.

WITCH!!!!

103 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:03:08pm

re: #102 Varek Raith

A good smelling one.

104 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:04:29pm

i am o'd-ing on chocolate and with a lot of booze already consumed - tomorrow may not be pretty.

(sigh)

105 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:05:26pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

Me too...
I think it's a hint...!
The dogs LOVE ME ...I stripped a very large Ham bone with ..ah.. some help!

106 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:05:40pm

re: #104 wozzablog

i am o'd-ing on chocolate and with a lot of booze already consumed - tomorrow may not be pretty.

(sigh)

...
BOOOO!!!!
...
Dammit, yelling on the internet != yelling in real life.
:(

107 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:06:11pm

re: #102 Varek Raith

WITCH!!!

re: #103 prairiefire

A good smelling one.

Ab-so-lutely.

:)

Good going Prairie on your gifting.

108 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:06:15pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

not-so-loud............

109 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:08:37pm

re: #104 wozzablog

Ibuprofen................Stat!!
1 hour before passing out or going to bed!!

110 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:09:20pm

re: #109 reloadingisnotahobby

Ibuprofen...Stat!!
1 hour before passing out or going to bed!!

Which happens first?

111 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:09:49pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

She saved her allowance + one set of grandparents' birthday and Christmas + one grandma's birthday. We pay the monthly Skype. Those little things are expensive!
We gave her a Tonner doll for her main gift.

112 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:10:13pm

re: #109 reloadingisnotahobby

Ibuprofen...Stat!!
1 hour before passing out or going to bed!!

if any lizards do find me slumped in any dank corners..... Ibuprofen is a no-no/

co-dydramol :p

113 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:12:21pm

re: #112 wozzablog

Noted and added to your file!!;-)
...Yes...we have a file.........

114 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:13:24pm

re: #111 prairiefire

She saved her allowance + one set of grandparents' birthday and Christmas + one grandma's birthday. We pay the monthly Skype. Those little things are expensive!
We gave her a Tonner doll for her main gift.

Whoa, I looked up Tonner doll. Amazing.

115 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:14:03pm

re: #111 prairiefire

She's into Project Runway?

116 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:15:00pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

She's into Project Runway?

Oh wait a minute. I landed on the fashion dolls, notice there are Tron dolls too...

hmm

117 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:15:51pm

re: #113 reloadingisnotahobby

Noted and added to your file!!;-)
...Yes...we have a file...

wouldn't have it any other way :p

118 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:17:19pm

re: #117 wozzablog

wouldn't have it any other way :p

Your in good shape!
Stanley is into fashion dolls??
...That's an open file entry right there...LOL

119 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:17:57pm

re: #118 reloadingisnotahobby

Your in good shape!
Stanley is into fashion dolls??
...That's an open file entry right there...LOL

NO, not I. Project Runway, yes. dolls, no.

120 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:21:22pm

re: #111 prairiefire

She saved her allowance + one set of grandparents' birthday and Christmas + one grandma's birthday. We pay the monthly Skype. Those little things are expensive!
We gave her a Tonner doll for her main gift.

Ah - Skype. I love Skype.

it's where my girlfriend lives :-(

121 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:21:55pm

We're going to the inlaws Sunday and must bring the Pup.....
We'll need all the positive Karma and vibs we can get...
The stores are closed so Valium is not available!

122 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:22:39pm

re: #118 reloadingisnotahobby

Ha!

No, my now, 13 (tear) year old daughter.
Ellowyne Wilde to be specific:[Link: www.wildeimagination.com...]

123 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:23:20pm

re: #120 wozzablog

Ah - Skype. I love Skype.

it's where my girlfriend lives :-(

Is she a red head???
Back off Moth%$*^%$!!!
/

124 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:26:12pm

re: #123 reloadingisnotahobby

Is she a red head???
Back off Moth%$*^%$!!!
/

actually she is a redhead ;-)
a damn fine lady.

with the..... and the..... :-p

125 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:30:22pm

re: #124 wozzablog

Am I amazing or what??

126 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 6:37:45pm

re: #125 reloadingisnotahobby

Am I amazing or what??

That you are, that you are.

*adds psychic powers to the file about reloadingisnotahobby*

127 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 7:09:00pm

Watching "Everybody Loves Raymond"....
....This shit is accurate!!LOL

128 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Dec 25, 2010 7:32:46pm

night all
:-)

3:33am on my watch,,,,,,,,,,,

129 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 7:49:42am

re: #27 000G

Shamir up to Shenanigans again: [Link: hurryupharry.org...]

That news needs the additional info that Shamir seems to deny any formal connection (that he supposedly alleged according to the story in Harry's Place): [Link: www.boingboing.net...]

Ugh. This is exactly what I've feared since the moment I've learned that Shamir is tied to WL.

130 Poiks  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 11:52:46am

Yeah, I know, I'm always late to the party. My two faves are the WTC/controlled detonation, and fluoride in drinking-water as toxic-waste disposal.

131 red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:31:31pm

ALL obama would have to do is be honest enough to make the real birth certificate available...not the easily gotten certificate of live birth...and prove that he is Hawaiian born. Why he won't do this is beyond me if he is telling the truth. Why has he spend so much time, effort and someone else's money to hide his birth certificate, school records and health records only encourages questions to be asked.

132 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:32:56pm

Wow, a Birther! Look, everyone.

133 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:37:58pm

re: #131 red fish

Yum, a troll fish. Let me get out the fryer.

134 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:40:33pm

re: #132 Charles

Wow, a Birther! Look, everyone.

The "35 year veteran educator" bit seems a bit mind-boggling.

135 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:40:33pm

re: #131 red fish

the real birth cert is available, you have to go to Hawaii to see it.

How much time and $ has been spent by Obama? Please clarify.

Counter that with how much time/$ has been spent dealing with that moron Taitz.

136 Red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:48:36pm

re: #132 Charles

Charles, don't resort to name calling when you can be better than that. Ask the questions and look for truthful answers. And to BigPapa, from all I have read the "real" birth certificate has not been made available. Can you give me a link where you can verify that it has been? Can you provide any links that show obama's school records at all? I don't think you can.
I liked this site when people really looked for what was true but too often anyone who disagrees with you is subjected to derision, now.
And to BongCrodny, yes, 38 years now is mind boggling.

137 jaunte  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:50:31pm

re: #131 red fish

Why do you think the 1961 Obama birth announcements in both Honolulu papers were fakes?
[Link: www.snopes.com...]

138 Red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 1:57:34pm

re: #137 jaunte

I never said they were fake. I recall reading that others had obtained certificates of live birth in Hawaii at that time when their children were born on the mainland, but I do not have any links to support it. The birth certificate should provide the name of the mother, father, name and identification of the child, the delivering physician and hospital of birth. The document I have seen provided when this question first came up did not provide all that information. I am skeptical enough to ask why none of these records is readily available. For most of us it is.

139 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:00:23pm

re: #138 Red fish

I never said they were fake. I recall reading that others had obtained certificates of live birth in Hawaii at that time when their children were born on the mainland, but I do not have any links to support it.

Then why don't you try to prove this?

140 Red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:02:31pm

re: #139 ozbloke

The simpler thing would be for obama to just provide the documents; birth certificate, school records, medical records...

141 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:03:00pm

The case of Lt.Col. Lakin is a fascinating case of how an otherwise intelligent person can blind himself to facts which don't fit his ideology. An M.D. threw away a 17 year military career and his pension, will spend six months a Leavenworth, and let down his comrades, some of whom may have died in Afghanistan because he wasn't there to treat them, all because Lakin decided he was entitled to his own personal copy of the President's birf cetifkat.

142 jaunte  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:03:34pm

re: #138 Red fish

Most of us weren't born in Hawaii before 2001, when the state discarded all paper birth records. The conspiracy goes deep!

143 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:04:11pm

re: #140 Red fish

The simpler thing would be for obama to just provide the documents; birth certificate, school records, medical records...

wait, i'm confused. isn't a valid birth cert necessary in order to file one's intention to run for POTUS?

144 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:04:30pm

re: #136 Red fish

And to BigPapa, from all I have read the "real" birth certificate has not been made available. Can you give me a link where you can verify that it has been? Can you provide any links that show obama's school records at all? I don't think you can.

That proves nothing. You have to provide evidence that the Cert of Live Birth and the multiple newspaper announcements are frauds. You cannot. Lack of school records as proof of evidence he wasn't born here? That's a separate subject, not relevant.

The lack of accounting of a Cert of Live Birth is a non-sequitor.

But you're 'just asking questions' right?

145 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:05:10pm

re: #140 Red fish

The simpler thing would be for obama to just provide the documents; birth certificate, school records, medical records...

You have had two years to come up with links.
Don't you think somebody would have come up with them by now, anyone?

Doesn't that trouble you at all?

146 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:05:21pm

re: #140 Red fish

The simpler thing would be for obama to just provide the documents; birth certificate, school records, medical records...

You clearly don't understand the mindset of conspiracy theorists. Any document the President produced at this time would be immediately denounced by birfers as a forgery. Facts simply don't matter to conspiracy theorists.

147 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:05:43pm

re: #140 Red fish

The simpler thing would be for obama to just provide the documents; birth certificate, school records, medical records...

Why? Why is this important to supply it to you or Orly Taitz?

148 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:06:00pm

re: #140 Red fish

The simpler thing would be for obama to just provide the documents; birth certificate, school records, medical records...

Why should he do that? The birther meme is to Obama what the Oath of Feanor was to Morgoth in the Simarilion: It has never done him any real harm, and has always rebounded to his enemies' detriment.

149 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:08:34pm

I live in Hawaii... I must be in on the conspiracy.

150 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:08:59pm

re: #140 Red fish

bueller...bueller...

151 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:09:01pm

The Hawaiian administration says he was born there, and Hawaii gets to decide. What happened to the sacredness of State's Rights, or does that only cover slavery?

152 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:09:59pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Why should he do that? The birther meme is to Obama what the Oath of Feanor was to Morgoth in the Simarilion: It has never done him any real harm, and has always rebounded to his enemies' detriment.

I'm hoping the birfers begin inundating Speaker Boehner with demands that he subpoena the President's birf sertifkat from Hawaii.

153 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:10:46pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

The Hawaiian administration says he was born there, and Hawaii gets to decide. What happened to the sacredness of State's Rights, or does that only cover slavery?

and buttsex. don't forget the buttsex.

154 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:12:34pm

re: #153 Aceofwhat?

and buttsex. don't forget the buttsex.

We don't do that in my sovrun' state, but we're considerably less opinionated about animals.

155 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:13:12pm

re: #152 aagcobb

I'm hoping the birfers begin inundating Speaker Boehner with demands that he subpoena the President's birf sertifkat from Hawaii.

Boehner would react to that be refusing to do so. That would have happy effect of the birthers flouncing from the GOP, which would be a very good thing for the party.

156 Red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:15:18pm

re: #143 Aceofwhat?

Interestingly, no it isn't. That's been part of the problem from the beginning. McCain had to go to some lengths to "prove" that he was an American citizen because he was born in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone.

157 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:15:25pm

re: #138 Red fish

I never said they were fake. I recall reading that others had obtained certificates of live birth in Hawaii at that time when their children were born on the mainland, but I do not have any links to support it. The birth certificate should provide the name of the mother, father, name and identification of the child, the delivering physician and hospital of birth. The document I have seen provided when this question first came up did not provide all that information. I am skeptical enough to ask why none of these records is readily available. For most of us it is.


My birth certificate doesn't list the hospital I was born at.

wait a minute -- it's not a birth certificate, but a "Certification of Vital Record."

OH, MY GOD!! I'VE CONSPIRACIZED MYSELF!!

158 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:17:22pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Boehner would react to that be refusing to do so. That would have happy effect of the birthers flouncing from the GOP, which would be a very good thing for the party.

It would be interesting to see if any of the new tea party representatives would provide any sound bites sympathetic to the birfers. When half of the GOP base doubts the President's citizenship, its difficult for politicians to completely write them off as crazy.

159 Red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:19:01pm

re: #157 BongCrodny

I had a Certificate of Live Birth from my birth state and when I applied for a passport I had to request the birth certificate from my birth hospital with all that information. The certificate was not acceptable.

160 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:19:41pm

re: #158 aagcobb

It would be interesting to see if any of the new tea party representatives would provide any sound bites sympathetic to the birfers. When half of the GOP base doubts the President's citizenship, its difficult for politicians to completely write them off as crazy.

There are those who claim doubts, but most of them wouldn't flounce over it. Most would swallow their thoughts of nirth and fall into line. Those that would not are not needed. They can go fishing on election day.

161 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:19:45pm

Anyone point out that for much of our early history a very large number of natural-born Americans didn't have a piece of paper called a "birth certificate"? I doubt Lincoln could produce one from Hodgenville, KY.

162 Red fish  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:22:11pm

Interesting discussion, guys. We aren't going to settle anything but I like the discussion.
I have to go.

163 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:24:43pm

re: #159 Red fish

I had a Certificate of Live Birth from my birth state and when I applied for a passport I had to request the birth certificate from my birth hospital with all that information. The certificate was not acceptable.


I went on a Caribbean cruise in 2003, and they let me into Cozumel with that very same "birth uncertificate."

They even let me back into the U.S. Joke's on them.

164 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:25:33pm

re: #156 Red fish

Interestingly, no it isn't. That's been part of the problem from the beginning. McCain had to go to some lengths to "prove" that he was an American citizen because he was born in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone.

And yet he refused to release the Certificate of Live birth!

165 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:26:41pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Anyone point out that for much of our early history a very large number of natural-born Americans didn't have a piece of paper called a "birth certificate"? I doubt Lincoln could produce one from Hodgenville, KY.


Yeah! Mine reads "Certified Abstract Of A Certificate Of Live Birth."

But it's obviously *not* a birth certificate. :-)

166 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:29:14pm

re: #156 Red fish

Interestingly, no it isn't. That's been part of the problem from the beginning. McCain had to go to some lengths to "prove" that he was an American citizen because he was born in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone.

bzzzt. wrong answer. the secretary of state of the candidate's birth state is responsible for verifying that the candidate was indeed born in their state.

also, passports are kinda hard to get without a certificate. actually, i take that back. they're impossible to get.

shoo.

167 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:30:29pm

re: #166 Aceofwhat?


shoo.

Up ding.

168 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:38:53pm

re: #165 BongCrodny

Yeah! Mine reads "Certified Abstract Of A Certificate Of Live Birth."

But it's obviously *not* a birth certificate. :-)

Lincoln certainly couldn't produce an original after 23 Dec 1864, because John Hunt Morgan burned the Hardin Co courthouse.

169 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:40:31pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Lincoln certainly couldn't produce an original after 23 Dec 1864, because John Hunt Morgan burned the Hardin Co courthouse.

Proving that Lincoln was a Soviet spy from the future.

170 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 2:41:58pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

Proving that Lincoln was a Soviet spy from the future.

And all the laws and Executive Orders of his last year were invalid. And Army doctors didn't have to go to the front.

171 Steve The Man  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 6:47:21pm

test

172 [deleted]  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 7:02:09pm
173 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 7:14:03pm

re: #172 Steve The Man

There's 2 birthers left!

174 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 7:29:37pm

Birthers are NOT welcome at LGF, and that should have been way past obvious by now.

175 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 7:32:00pm

re: #174 Charles

OK, that made me laugh.
Is Orly Taitz gonna post next?

176 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Dec 26, 2010 9:05:35pm

re: #156 Red fish

Interestingly, no it isn't. That's been part of the problem from the beginning. McCain had to go to some lengths to "prove" that he was an American citizen because he was born in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone.

No, he didn't. That was a brief talking point that flopped because it's moronic. This is equally moronic. Both McCain and Obama are the sons of Americans citizens. By jus sanguinis, they are U.S. citizens. End of story, end of problem, no need to invent crap about Africa.

177 Decider  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:33:58pm

There is no way to reason with morons. These people watch Fox News 24/7 and think Obama is a Muslim. Any outside source stating facts is just the "Lamestream Media" to them.


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