A Message from Anonymous

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After I posted the earlier article about the pro-Wikileaks non-organization “Anonymous” and their attack on the Bank of America website, and called them (with my usual tact) “vigilante morons,” the non-organization’s hive mind apparently decided to send a message to Little Green Footballs.

I happened to be keeping an eye on referrals, and noticed several hits come in to that article from the non-organization’s IRC and chat sites, then I was followed on Twitter by someone posting updates on the BofA attack — then within minutes, the LGF web server started being flooded with requests for nonexistent files. Our hosting company acted quickly to redirect the bogus traffic, so we were only down for a short time.

On Saturday the New York Times published an editorial decrying the decisions by several financial sites to stop processing donations to Wikileaks, with this exit question:

What would happen if a clutch of big banks decided that a particularly irksome blogger or other organization was “too risky”?

Right now, I’m more concerned with what happens when this virtual unorganized pro-Wikileaks lynch mob decides to intimidate bloggers who criticize them.

We aren’t Bank of America or Visa, and we don’t have a distributed network of redundant fall-back servers. When they direct their DDoS program at LGF or just about any bloggers’ site, it can very definitely have a big impact.

The message from “Anonymous” came through loud and clear: “we wouldn’t want to see anything happen to this nice little website you got here.”

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160 comments
1 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:20:56pm

I guess it was only a matter of time. Back when these stupid goons went after Co$ servers, I asked those that were cheering it what their opinion of this group would be if they attacked LGF.

I don't think any of those folks are still here.

2 BongGhazi  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:21:15pm

They might not be asking for a percentage, but it sure smells like a protection racket to me.

3 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:22:00pm

I wish you didn't have to deal with this crap Charles.

4 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:24:05pm

We banned someone who was apparently a member from a mental health support site I run and she tried to organize a raid against us. Who the hell attacks a mental health support site? (other than a crazy person) I can kinda understand the mindset of the one person trying to organize the thing, but the 30 or so other people who went along with it just for the lols are beyond me.

5 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:24:50pm

re: #4 Conservative Moonbat

Who the hell attacks a mental health support site? (other than a crazy person)

lol

6 marsl  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:28:01pm

re: #2 BongCrodny

They might not be asking for a percentage, but it sure smells like a protection racket to me.

A mob thing?

7 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:28:23pm

What's really funny to me is that Anon is generally known as the assholes of the internet, and harassing teenage girls is more their normal raison d'etre. These organized actions are the anomalies, not the standard.

8 marsl  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:28:28pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

lol

2x lol

9 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:29:48pm

re: #7 Obdicut

What's really funny to me is that Anon is generally known as the assholes of the internet, and harassing teenage girls is more their normal raison d'etre. These organized actions are the anomalies, not the standard.

They are quickly becoming the standard.

10 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:31:40pm

re: #7 Obdicut

Great group of folks, eh?
/

11 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:32:47pm

Hmm. Civil unrest from your comfy bedroom at your parents house or apartment. No worries about actually having to march, or travel. No worries about tear gas or rocks. Impunity until the FBI shows up if ever. Tough nut to crack, big picture wise.

12 BongGhazi  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:33:41pm

re: #6 marsl

A mob thing?


Ha!

I guess if the cement shoes fit...

13 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:35:45pm

I just checked. There is a LGF E.D. entry. No way am I linking to it.

14 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:37:03pm

re: #13 Conservative Moonbat

I just checked. There is a LGF E.D. entry. No way am I linking to it.

What's that?

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:37:06pm

re: #13 Conservative Moonbat

"E.D. entry"?

16 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:37:31pm

Encyclopedia Dramatica

17 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:37:34pm

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

"E.D. entry"?

Levitra
//

18 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:37:45pm

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

"E.D. entry"?

Enclopedia Dramatica I'd wager.

19 marsl  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:37:50pm

re: #12 BongCrodny

Ha!

I guess if the cement shoes fit...

I bet someone is going to sleep with the fish.....

20 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:38:14pm

re: #18 Varek Raith

Encyclopedia Dramatica I'd wager.


LEARN TO SPELL VAREK

21 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:38:15pm

re: #11 Rightwingconspirator

Hmm. Civil unrest from your comfy bedroom at your parents house or apartment. No worries about actually having to march, or travel. No worries about tear gas or rocks. Impunity until the FBI shows up if ever. Tough nut to crack, big picture wise.

Easy nut to crack. We are many, and they are few. They cannot push us around if we show even a little bit of spunk.

22 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:50:39pm

re: #4 Conservative Moonbat

We banned someone who was apparently a member from a mental health support site I run and she tried to organize a raid against us. Who the hell attacks a mental health support site? (other than a crazy person) I can kinda understand the mindset of the one person trying to organize the thing, but the 30 or so other people who went along with it just for the lols are beyond me.

Didn't the 4chaners hack a support site for epileptics with seizure-inducing graphics, just for teh lulz?

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:51:40pm

Nerdy thugs are nerdy.

24 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:51:56pm
On Saturday the New York Times published an editorial decrying the decisions by several financial sites to stop processing donations to Wikileaks, with this exit question:

What would happen if a clutch of big banks decided that a particularly irksome blogger or other organization was “too risky”?

"Too risky" as in "breaking the law"? That kind of risky?

NYT is afraid of anon?

25 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:52:33pm

WTF? Was that another DDOS attack?

26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:53:18pm

re: #25 Gus 802

WTF? Was that another DDOS attack?

Yep.

27 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:53:26pm

re: #25 Gus 802

WTF? Was that another DDOS attack?

Think so...

28 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:54:42pm

New rule. Anyone that wants to defend Anonymous today, even slightly, should probably take the rest of the day off from posting at LGF.

29 shutdown  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:54:55pm

Ongoing. Interestingly, not preceded by chatter in the usual places, so perhaps planned earlier (like hours ago, not days)

30 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:55:49pm

Okay then...

Fuck Anon. Fuck 4chan. Fuck Assange and fuck wikileaks.

31 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:56:43pm

Gah. Posting from a terrible wireless connection.

re: #21 lostlakehiker

We are many, quite so. But it only takes a few to do damage. Any fool with a hammer can break up sculpture.

32 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:57:02pm

re: #22 Alouette

Didn't the 4chaners hack a support site for epileptics with seizure-inducing graphics, just for teh lulz?

a few of them, yeah!

But 4chan is an enormous and popular and heavily trafficked site, one of the single most influential sites in terms of internet culture on the internet itself. Memes that began at 4chan are repeated here daily. Pretty much everyone I know personally goes to 4chan, but not all channers are anon, not all channers are ddosing people. And all the sub-boards have their own culture.

33 researchok  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:57:09pm

re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay then...

Fuck Anon. Fuck 4chan. Fuck Assange and fuck wikileaks.

The NYT may decide to cancel your subscription.
//

34 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:57:10pm

re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay then...

Fuck Anon. Fuck 4chan. Fuck Assange and fuck wikileaks.

Twice over.

35 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:57:49pm

re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay then...

Fuck Anon. Fuck 4chan. Fuck Assange and fuck wikileaks.

I'm pretty sure the guys on /d/ have very little to do with hassling a political blog ;-)

36 shutdown  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:58:19pm

Weel, it has been an interesting day. Time to open a bottle of wine and see what the evening holds. Back later.

37 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:58:22pm

re: #35 WindUpBird

I'm pretty sure the guys on /d/ have very little to do with hassling a political blog ;-)

Indeed.

38 BongGhazi  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:58:24pm

re: #31 Rightwingconspirator

Gah. Posting from a terrible wireless connection.

We are many, quite so. But it only takes a few to do damage. Any fool with a hammer can break up sculpture.


"It's funny how one insect can damage so much grain." -- Elton John/Bernie Taupin

39 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:58:36pm

re: #26 Charles

Anything we can do to help? Like go easy on the more demanding features for a while?

40 researchok  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:58:42pm

re: #35 WindUpBird

I'm pretty sure the guys on /d/ have very little to do with hassling a political blog ;-)

You might not be safe- didn't you say you like beer?
//

41 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:58:48pm

re: #28 Gus 802

New rule. Anyone that wants to defend Anonymous today, even slightly, should probably take the rest of the day off from posting at LGF.

There is no organization.
There is no planning.
There is no one manipulating things, pulling strings, shouting "GO".

It's small potatoes per some.

434 BishopX

Here, let me make myself clear. Anonymous are a bunch of assholes. What they are doing is wrong. It does not however rise to the level where federal prosecution is warranted. This is small potatoes stuff.

I'm speechless.

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:59:35pm

re: #41 reine.de.tout

There is no organization.
There is no planning.
There is no one manipulating things, pulling strings, shouting "GO".

It's small potatoes per some.

I'm speechless.

I think anon is small potatoes compared to civil rights, yes.

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:59:43pm

re: #41 reine.de.tout

Yay for ANARHY! Now buy this printed hoodie.

44 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 1:59:53pm

re: #39 Rightwingconspirator

Anything we can do to help?

No, nothing unfortunately. HM is on top of the situation though.

45 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:00:29pm

re: #39 Rightwingconspirator

Anything we can do to help? Like go easy on the more demanding features for a while?

That would have little effect. Using it like you normally do places a very low load on the server, on an individual level.

46 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:01:51pm

re: #45 Fozzie Bear

I.e., unless you are using special software to spam the server with requests, you aren't part of the problem.

47 shutdown  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:03:09pm

re: #44 Charles

No, nothing unfortunately. HM is on top of the situation though.

Something to be said for testing lgf's defenses now, considering that - knowing that the likelihood of you retreating is equal to or less than zero - it is only going to get worse.

Good luck

48 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:04:38pm

The error_log is very interesting.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:06:33pm

re: #48 Charles

Informative, I hope.

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:10:01pm

Bleepity bleep!

I lost y'all for a bit.

51 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:12:57pm

A bit of beauty, the view from the deck where we are stayed last evening.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

52 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:16:39pm

"The message from “Anonymous” came through loud and clear: “we wouldn’t want to see anything happen to this nice little website you got here.”

I have a response for that.

53 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:21:31pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

I think anon is small potatoes compared to civil rights, yes.

yes, yes, everyone's civil rights should be protected though, don't you think?

Right now, I’m more concerned with what happens when this virtual unorganized pro-Wikileaks lynch mob decides to intimidate bloggers who criticize them.

We aren’t Bank of America or Visa, and we don’t have a distributed network of redundant fall-back servers. When they direct their DDoS program at LGF or just about any bloggers’ website, it can very definitely have a big impact.

The message from “Anonymous” came through loud and clear: “we wouldn’t want to see anything happen to this nice little website you got here.”

54 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:24:15pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

I think anon is small potatoes compared to civil rights, yes.

could be...that was not the issue tho

55 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:24:43pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

Any individual bigoted act is small potatoes. As they accumulate, so do the consequences for all.

56 freetoken  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:30:56pm

Is digital vandalism an evolved form of plain ol' vandalism?

Probably so.

I still think the whole Anonymous thing is the electronic empowering of juvenile delinquency. In the end they will accomplish nothing for which they can be proud when they reach old age.

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:30:59pm

Just a friendly little reminder.

58 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:31:40pm

Anon, don't push me man!
Image: InternetKIllSwitch.jpg

59 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:31:58pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Just a friendly little reminder.

DOWNDING opportunity!
For those so inclined.

60 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:32:25pm

re: #56 freetoken

Is digital vandalism an evolved form of plain ol' vandalism?

Probably so.

I still think the whole Anonymous thing is the electronic empowering of juvenile delinquency. In the end they will accomplish nothing for which they can be proud when they reach old age.

maybe it's a gateway thing

61 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:32:53pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Just a friendly little reminder.

Thanks.

To answer a question posed earlier, I am not only a supporter of Anonymous but also a participant in some of their activities since 2005. - Barrett Brown

62 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:34:20pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Just a friendly little reminder.

not to worry...they are disorganized and nameless
question: how big is a small potato?

63 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:34:47pm

re: #62 albusteve

not to worry...they are disorganized and nameless
question: how big is a small potato?


This big!

64 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:35:13pm

re: #62 albusteve

it's smaller than a big potato.

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:35:46pm

re: #61 Gus 802

Two attacks on LGF today, that I am aware of. This is the kind shit that guy supports and/or facilitates. The kind of crowd that this guy thinks is just peachy.

KT had his number quite early on.

66 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:36:23pm

These child nerds and their computer attacks.

Is it really about the size of their gonads?

How pathetic.

67 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:36:53pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Two attacks on LGF today, that I am aware of. This is the kind shit that guy supports and/or facilitates. The kind of crowd that this guy thinks is just peachy.

KT had his number quite early on.

Just like with the TeaParty movement.
KT must be a witch or something.
:)

68 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:37:25pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

Just like with the TeaParty movement.
KT must be a witch or something.
:)

Warlock.

69 freetoken  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:37:39pm

re: #68 ggt

Wizard!

70 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:38:03pm

re: #68 ggt

Warlock.

You appear knowledgeable in their terminology.
Which makes you...
A WITCH!

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:38:13pm

re: #62 albusteve

not to worry...they are disorganized and nameless

Heh. Some would have us believe they are some formless, invisible horror, like some elder god from an H.P. Lovecraft story.

72 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:38:42pm

re: #70 Varek Raith

You appear knowledgeable in their terminology.
Which makes you...
A WITCH!

Varek, you obvioiusly don't know how to spell.

I am something much worse.

73 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:38:48pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Two attacks on LGF today, that I am aware of. This is the kind shit that guy supports and/or facilitates. The kind of crowd that this guy thinks is just peachy.

KT had his number quite early on.

The attack is still going on, I think. But the traffic is being redirected.

74 freetoken  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:39:07pm

re: #60 albusteve

maybe it's a gateway thing

... to ... DIGITAL CANNABIS!

75 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:39:27pm

re: #56 freetoken

Is digital vandalism an evolved form of plain ol' vandalism?

Probably so.

I still think the whole Anonymous thing is the electronic empowering of juvenile delinquency. In the end they will accomplish nothing for which they can be proud when they reach old age.

In the end, because it's "small potatoes", and because "nothing really bad has happened" (thus far), and because it's "small potatoes not worth prosecuting", some group (or group of groups) will be able to be manipulated by some non-person sitting in a vacuum somewhere to do something, oh, small-potatoes unimportant enough that will result in major havoc.

76 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:39:29pm

re: #72 ggt

Varek, you obvioiusly don't know how to spell.

I am something much worse.

A which?
A sandwitch?
A sandwich?
:P

77 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:40:41pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

A which?
A sandwitch?
A sandwich?
:P

A WOMAN.

78 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:40:57pm

re: #75 reine.de.tout

In the end, because it's "small potatoes", and because "nothing really bad has happened" (thus far), and because it's "small potatoes not worth prosecuting", some group (or group of groups) will be able to be manipulated by some non-person sitting in a vacuum somewhere to do something, oh, small-potatoes unimportant enough that will result in major havoc.

Once they are mashed, the size of the potatoes is irrelevant.

79 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:41:29pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Once they are mashed, the size of the potatoes is irrelevant.

LOL.
Abso-frikken'-lutely.

80 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:41:37pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Once they are mashed, the size of the potatoes is irrelevant.

At that point, the only thing that is relevant is whether or not garlic is added.

81 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:41:42pm

re: #77 ggt

A WOMAN.

Lol.
There are no women on the internet!
Silly.
///Ducks and/or hides

82 YukonCornelius  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:42:39pm

re: #13 Conservative Moonbat

I just checked. There is a LGF E.D. entry. No way am I linking to it.

It's a pretty outdated entry though, the page was last modified on 11 May 2009, at 17:46.

83 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:42:59pm

re: #80 ggt

Also, the presence of scallions is of import.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:43:04pm

re: #80 ggt

At that point, the only thing that is relevant is whether or not garlic is added.

That the inclusion of garlic in anything should be questioned is distressing.

85 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:43:28pm

re: #82 YukonCornelius

Welcome, hatchling.

86 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:44:18pm

re: #80 ggt

At that point, the only thing that is relevant is whether or not garlic is added.

Always add garlic.

87 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:44:27pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

That the inclusion of garlic in anything should be questioned is distressing.

*Adds SB to his Vampire Hater list*

88 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:44:35pm

re: #83 Obdicut

Also, the presence of scallions is of import.

I've come, lately, to prefer leeks.

89 freetoken  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:44:49pm

re: #75 reine.de.tout

Well, Vandalism is a crime because it costs people their property. Anonymous attacks on internet sites cost the site owners.

I guess we should have expected the "electronic teenage" syndrome to become part of daily life. I

Can Anonymous remain truly anonymous while being so active? I doubt it.

90 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:44:57pm

re: #86 reine.de.tout

Always add garlic.

I've heard there are people who don't.

91 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:45:07pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

That the inclusion of garlic in anything should be questioned is distressing.

Sadly, I have developed an intolerance for garlic and onions. The upside is that skunks no longer stink, to my nose.

92 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:45:14pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Two attacks on LGF today, that I am aware of. This is the kind shit that guy supports and/or facilitates. The kind of crowd that this guy thinks is just peachy.

KT had his number quite early on.

It was interesting to see who got all fired up in defending Anonymous (the elusive collective non-entity) and Julian Assange. Otherwise, it's no secret that many people see freedom of speech as a subjective right.

93 BishopX  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:45:56pm

re: #89 freetoken

They're as anonymous as anyone in a mob. So they are until they are not.

94 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:46:13pm

re: #89 freetoken

Well, Vandalism is a crime because it costs people their property. Anonymous attacks on internet sites cost the site owners.

I guess we should have expected the "electronic teenage" syndrome to become part of daily life. I

Can Anonymous remain truly anonymous while being so active? I doubt it.

Perhaps this all boils down to "property rights" which the children can't understand or think is an obstacle to their freedom.

95 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:46:15pm

re: #87 Varek Raith

*Adds SB to his Vampire Hater list*

It's not that I hate vampires, per se, but that I love garlic so much more.

96 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:46:57pm

Here we go again.

97 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:47:04pm

re: #95 Slumbering Behemoth

It's not that I hate vampires, per se, but that I love garlic so much more.

Alright, fine.
I just won't eat at your house.
:P

98 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:47:08pm

re: #87 Varek Raith

*Adds SB to his Vampire Hater list*

The Vampire/Garlic thing is a fallacy.

99 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:47:27pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Sadly, I have developed an intolerance for garlic and onions. The upside is that skunks no longer stink, to my nose.

My sincerest sympathies.

100 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:48:02pm

re: #98 ggt

The Vampire/Garlic thing is a fallacy.

!
Dammit!
Way too ruin it!
I've been using that to scare the other Vampire lords into declaring me their leader.

101 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:48:42pm

re: #96 Gus 802

Here we go again.

Don't you want to come with us?

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:49:52pm

re: #92 Gus 802

It was interesting to see who got all fired up in defending Anonymous (the elusive collective non-entity) and Julian Assange. Otherwise, it's no secret that many people see freedom of speech as a subjective right.

It is entirely subjective to them, and clearly they see themselves as the arbiter of what constitutes free speech.

Stop doing business with Wikileaks - "You're stifling free speech! People of Anon, attack!"

Criticize Anon's attacks - "You're, um... fuck you and fuck your free speech! Attack!"

103 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:49:53pm

re: #28 Gus 802

New rule. Anyone that wants to defend Anonymous today, even slightly, should probably take the rest of the day off from posting at LGF.

Quite Concur. We don't take kindly to being threaten here.

104 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:49:56pm

Some are awfully fixated with semantics.

105 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:49:59pm

re: #88 ggt

I've come, lately, to prefer leeks.

oH dear, I mean the leek that is part of the Onion family. NOT the other kind.

106 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:50:18pm

Lets make a list of others that like to hide in Anonymity and see how similar they are to this current group of asswipes

I'll start

The KKK

107 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:51:23pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Some are awfully fixated with semantics.

I have a box with nothing inside it so until you prove that there is something inside it there is nothing inside it.

/

108 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:51:24pm

re: #28 Gus 802

New rule. Anyone that wants to defend Anonymous today, even slightly, should probably take the rest of the day decade off from posting at LGF.

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. We don't take kindly to being threaten here.

ftfy

109 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:51:44pm

re: #88 ggt

I've come, lately, to prefer leeks.

Wikileeks?

110 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:51:45pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Some are awfully fixated with semantics.

and Star Wars or whatever cartoon du jour

111 Ghazicide  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:51:54pm

re: #28 Gus 802

New rule. Anyone that wants to defend Anonymous today ever, even slightly, should probably take the rest of the day off from posting at LGF.

Vigilante morons, cyber vandals, all the same.

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:51:59pm

re: #106 sattv4u2

ABD.

113 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:52:07pm

re: #110 albusteve

and Star Wars or whatever cartoon du jour

That hurt, man!

114 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:52:21pm

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

ABD.

you forgot the "C"!!!
//

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:52:23pm

yut oh [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

116 BishopX  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:52:25pm
117 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:52:30pm

re: #94 ggt

Perhaps this all boils down to "property rights" which the children can't understand or think is an obstacle to their freedom.

Then they need to be disconnected from their little online world for a time and properly instructed. If young people do not understand the importance of property rights, then that marks a serious failing of the schools. Property rights are not an obstacle to freedom, they are a cornerstone of freedom.

118 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:53:26pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Wikileeks?

I just wanted to make that VERY CLEAR. :)

119 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:53:52pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Then they need to be disconnected from their little online world for a time and properly instructed. If young people do not understand the importance of property rights, then that marks a serious failing of the schools. Property rights are not an obstacle to freedom, they are a cornerstone of freedom.

And there you have it

There are no individual "property rights" in their one world/ no borders/ socialistic utopian world

120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:54:11pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

In Anarchist Utopia, property owns you.
/

121 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:54:55pm

Coming up next. Are DDOS attacks a human right?

/

122 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:54:59pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Then they need to be disconnected from their little online world for a time and properly instructed. If young people do not understand the importance of property rights, then that marks a serious failing of the schools. Property rights are not an obstacle to freedom, they are a cornerstone of freedom.

schools?...hahaha!
just imagine when out latest crop of children grow up....we're fucked amigo

123 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:55:14pm

re: #107 Gus 802

I have a box with nothing inside it so until you prove that there is something inside it there is nothing inside it.

/

I reject your logic and substitute my own. There is $5,000 in $100 bills in that box little man. I'm going to open it in 18 hours and it had best contain that money or I'll pound on you for stealing from me.

/kidding

124 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:57:22pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Then they need to be disconnected from their little online world for a time and properly instructed. If young people do not understand the importance of property rights, then that marks a serious failing of the schools. Property rights are not an obstacle to freedom, they are a cornerstone of freedom.

Well, you know, there is a whole group of political ideologues that would disagree. Dangerous people, IMHO.

This whole transparency thing about "secrets" etc. has me really worried. I wonder, under the law, if Speech is considered Property. My mind is reeling on all kinds of tangents here.

125 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:57:40pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

I almost agree, but it's a PARENT'S job to teach basic principles like respect.

126 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:58:55pm

re: #122 albusteve

schools?...hahaha!
just imagine when out latest crop of children grow up...we're fucked amigo

I'm more optimistic than you, Steve. I'm sure I could bring the teacher's unions around to this particular change of curriculum: All I'd have to do is remind is remind the union that the Anon crowd sees them as part of the 'power structure' and will both attack their secrets and harass their members unless stopped. Once I've established where their interests lie, the teachers and schools will come around.

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:58:59pm

re: #121 Gus 802

Freedumb of speech, man. It's freedumb of speech.

128 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:59:07pm

re: #92 Gus 802

It was interesting to see who got all fired up in defending Anonymous (the elusive collective non-entity) and Julian Assange. Otherwise, it's no secret that many people see freedom of speech as a subjective right.

Seems to depend on whose freedom of speech is under discussion.

129 Gus  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:59:14pm

My Life Story: By Julian Assange

Steal this book.

/

130 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:59:27pm

re: #124 ggt

Well, you know, there is a whole group of political ideologues that would disagree. Dangerous people, IMHO.

This whole transparency thing about "secrets" etc. has me really worried. I wonder, under the law, if Speech is considered Property. My mind is reeling on all kinds of tangents here.

open the borders, free the oppressed, down with sovereignty!

131 BishopX  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:00:28pm

re: #124 ggt

property=money=speech

If supreme court rulings are transitive (which they should be) then speech=property.

Which sucks

132 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:00:33pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I'm more optimistic than you, Steve. I'm sure I could bring the teacher's unions around to this particular change of curriculum: All I'd have to do is remind is remind the union that the Anon crowd sees them as part of the 'power structure' and will both attack their secrets and harass their members unless stopped. Once I've established where their interests lie, the teachers and schools will come around.

Anon...the Club of Virtue!

133 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:01:03pm

re: #31 Rightwingconspirator

Gah. Posting from a terrible wireless connection.

We are many, quite so. But it only takes a few to do damage. Any fool with a hammer can break up sculpture.

It's not so easy to break a blog. Here we are. And Anonymous is losing more friends than it's dispatching enemies as this goes on. Watch and see. We are not a sculpture, to be broken so easily.

It takes a while, but friends fall away from thugs and opponents gird themselves for the fight. Thugs lose.

134 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:01:09pm

re: #125 Floral Giraffe

I almost agree, but it's a PARENT'S job to teach basic principles like respect.

Good luck with that
Have you not been in a store/ mall/ restaurant lately and seen what "parents" allow their kids to get away with ,, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM!!

Hell ,,,, the parents will even give YOU shit if you dare mention that their lil angel is being rude in public!

135 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:02:00pm

re: #130 albusteve

open the borders, free the oppressed, down with sovereignty!

Hell, if you dare to earn more than a certain amount of money, there are those that think the rest should be theirs (collectively).

So, we are back to property rights. HA!

136 BishopX  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:02:44pm

re: #133 lostlakehiker

This. Anon is pissing in a bonfire. It smells bad but it doesn't dim.

137 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:02:48pm

re: #125 Floral Giraffe

I almost agree, but it's a PARENT'S job to teach basic principles like respect.

I know, but its easier and quicker to aim at schooling than parenting.

138 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:02:48pm

re: #135 ggt

Hell, if you dare to earn more than a certain amount of money, there are those that think the rest should be theirs (collectively).

So, we are back to property rights. HA!

NO MORE PROPERTY RITES!

139 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:03:04pm

re: #134 sattv4u2

Good luck with that
Have you not been in a store/ mall/ restaurant lately and seen what "parents" allow their kids to get away with ,, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM!!

Hell ,,, the parents will even give YOU shit if you dare mention that their lil angel is being rude in public!

I dunno about you, Satt, but my kid got away with all sorts of shit right in front me, quite often. She grew out of it and/or started listening eventually, but geez -

140 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:03:33pm

re: #138 albusteve

NO MORE PROPERTY RITES!

All Hail!

141 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:03:51pm

I feel a demonstration coming on...who's with me?

142 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:04:04pm

re: #139 reine.de.tout

I dunno about you, Satt, but my kid got away with all sorts of shit right in front me, quite often. She grew out of it and/or started listening eventually, but geez -

Under a certain age, it is sometimes easier to ignore. They do grow out of it.

143 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:04:59pm

re: #141 albusteve

I feel a demonstration coming on...who's with me?

I can demonstrate my ability to drink cheap beer. Like that?

144 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:05:25pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I know, but its easier and quicker to aim at schooling than parenting.

parents are worse than the schools...they only enable bad behavior, the schools inspire it

145 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:05:38pm

re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth

I can demonstrate my ability to drink cheap beer. Like that?

Ability or God-Given Right?

146 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:06:48pm

re: #139 reine.de.tout

I dunno about you, Satt, but my kid got away with all sorts of shit right in front me, quite often. She grew out of it and/or started listening eventually, but geez -

Depends on what you mean. Would you allow her to swear at you or a sibling in public (hell, for that matter in your house) without a reprimand?
Would you allow her to be rude to a waiter?

I doubt it

147 albusteve  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:08:02pm

re: #144 albusteve

re: #144 albusteve

whoops...parents inspire, schools enable
like that

148 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 3:14:07pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

Depends on what you mean. Would you allow her to swear at you or a sibling in public (hell, for that matter in your house) without a reprimand?
Would you allow her to be rude to a waiter?

I doubt it

Well, no, of course not.
The thing is that she would do it anyhow

149 boxhead  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 4:44:55pm

Anonymous just proved they are complete twits. Supposedly fighting on behalf of free speech by attacking a web site because they exercised free speech. Ass hats...

150 LRonHoover  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 4:59:27pm

Are these people just Anarchists?

151 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 5:12:42pm

re: #52 ggt

"The message from “Anonymous” came through loud and clear: “we wouldn’t want to see anything happen to this nice little website you got here.”

I have a response for that.

So do I....it's "fuck you, Anonymous".

152 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 5:16:39pm

re: #92 Gus 802

It was interesting to see who got all fired up in defending Anonymous (the elusive collective non-entity) and Julian Assange. Otherwise, it's no secret that many people see freedom of speech as a subjective right.

Yeah...in America, the rule for any of our Constitutional freedoms is summed up in one succinct, to-the-chase phrase:

"Your freedoms end where mine begins"

Chew on that, Anonymous and Assange...

153 Abe Froman  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 6:13:46pm

I heard some of these followers use their real IP's to DOS with. Not too smart.

154 Abe Froman  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 6:16:02pm

Submit the IP's to the abuse@ departments at the carriers who own that ARIN block and start shutting them off. Most ISP's don't play around when they have a clear access log to work with. Our carriers give us 72 hours to respond to these sorts of issues.

155 Stifford  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 6:47:48pm

Most 4chan /b/tards are apathetic to most causes not involving kitties, natural lulz, or striking back against direct attacks upon them. There will always be some folks that try to stir them up, or direct them at a cause, and those folks are usually ignored with NYPA responses ("Not Your Personal Army"). That doesn't mean that some small percentage of them might be not bored enough to gather and cause some cyber-troubles. But those are likely the dumber ones, that don't try to hide their IPs, etc, and eventually get culled from the herd. I don't doubt that stuff like this will become more troublesome in the future, unfortunately, but to pin it to "Anon" acting out in some total organized form is (in most cases) not accurate. And by the way they have come to exist, it is also very easy for other groups to act out against their own targets, and take cover in the guise of Anon. It's a "New World/Age" problem, that everyone (including techies) are trying to get a handle on. But as troubling an evolution in society it may be, I must confess that I (personally) also find it all very interesting.

156 jerk  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 8:55:52pm

Anonymous have headed some great causes like what they did with the CoS. Those people are known to censor and destroy lives by their fair game doctrine, and have been guilty of killing their own members by denying them medication. They also pray to a dead hack of a sci-fi writing pedophile, and get a tax credit to do so. LGF is not CoS. LGF is not even comparable to Gawker. There is always going to be a difference in opinion, but this site does not hold the keys to anything. Anonymous, it would be wise to refocus your efforts on things that should matter more. That's all.

157 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Dec 27, 2010 10:29:48pm

re: #156 jerk

DoS/DDoS attacks are illegal, regardless of the target.

158 scrodd  Tue, Dec 28, 2010 6:46:23am

4chan is down right now. I'm guessing that's just a coincidence

159 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 28, 2010 9:00:35am

re: #155 Stifford

Welcome, hatchling.

160 Idle Drifter  Tue, Dec 28, 2010 7:13:17pm

re: #106 sattv4u2

Lets make a list of others that like to hide in Anonymity and see how similar they are to this current group of asswipes

I'll start

The KKK

FARC.


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