Robert Stacy McCain's Neo-Nazi Friend Convicted of Soliciting Violence

Robert Stacy McCain’s Neo-Nazi Friend Convicted of Soliciting Violence

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Racist blogger Robert Stacy McCain’s neo-Nazi pal Bill White (they met at a 2002 conference of the white nationalist group American Renaissance, and McCain then helped get White’s articles published in the Washington Times), has been convicted in Chicago for using his hate site overthrow.com to incite violence against a jury foreman, and faces up to ten years in prison.

Bill WhiteA neo-Nazi whose online rants struck fear in Roanoke and across the country was convicted of using his website to solicit violence Wednesday, just two weeks before his scheduled release from prison.

William A. White was found guilty of encouraging harm to the foreman of a Chicago jury that convicted a fellow white supremacist in 2004. The verdict came on the third day of a trial in U.S. District Court in Chicago.

White, 33, the leader of a Roanoke-based white supremacy group, has been serving a 2½-year sentence following his convictions last year in Roanoke of threatening a bank employee in Missouri, a university administrator in Delaware and a group of apartment tenants in Virginia Beach.

Since McCain’s friend also threatened me and tried to find my home address and the addresses of my family members, I’ll be very glad to see him go to jail for a long time.

For more information on Robert Stacy McCain’s friendship with Bill White:

Robert Stacy McCain’s Angry Departure From the Washington Times
The Other ‘Other McCain’
Robert Stacy McCain’s Latest Excuse

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123 comments

lawhawk Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:28:44am

A well deserved guilty verdict, and here’s hoping that he gets the max sentence under law.

I hate the (neo) Nazis.

albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:28:56am

whoa….no small thing, completely destroys any cred he thought he had

Obdicut Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:29:57am

Prison is the right place for that asshole, and anyone else who foments violence.

I really like the word foment. Sucks that I have such opportunities these days to use it.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:34:58am

Nice. Let’s hope this new year brings with it more good news like this.

MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:36:39am

re: #2 albusteve

whoa…no small thing, completely destroys any cred he thought he had

For me, it’s simple math. Zero multiplied by anything is still zero.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:36:48am

re: #3 Obdicut

Prison is the right place for that asshole, and anyone else who foments violence.

I really like the word foment. Sucks that I have such opportunities these days to use it.

I am sure he will make lots of new “Aryan Nations” friends in the Big House.

Is there any way to make sure he is only locked up with Blacks and Hispanics? Or would that be cruel & unusual (to the Blacks and Hispanics)

Obdicut Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:37:48am

re: #6 Alouette

I more hope that the jury foreman sues him in civil court and takes every last penny he has.

I really liked the breaking of the Klan that way.

Surabaya Stew Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:38:19am

Sometimes, prison scentences can be too long.

Not this time; 10 years isn’t quite enough, IMHO.

Kragar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:39:11am

re: #7 Obdicut

I more hope that the jury foreman sues him in civil court and takes every last penny he has.

I really liked the breaking of the Klan that way.

Since he used the website of the group he founded, couldn’t the victim sue the group?

Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:39:37am

By the way, if anyone’s on Twitter, I’ve been getting into it with Andrew Breitbart today. Blogger Adam Holland chimed in too. It’s a pretty fun little roast.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:42:47am

re: #6 Alouette

I am sure he will make lots of new “Aryan Nations” friends in the Big House.

Is there any way to make sure he is only locked up with Blacks and Hispanics? Or would that be cruel & unusual (to the Blacks and Hispanics)

I believe that in a lot of places these days they tend to try to house prisoners with people of their own race, to cut down on problems.

That said, I think a whole bunch of incarcerated gentlemen of color, and this one fella, wouldn’t cause many problems.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:46:24am

re: #3 Obdicut

Prison is the right place for that asshole, and anyone else who foments violence.

I really like the word foment. Sucks that I have such opportunities these days to use it.

Using the Jeff Foxworthy Dictionary for Redneck…..
…” Ya’ll hang tight foment”
“Hold on ta this here wire foment”
..” I thought bout jumpin that crek in ma truk foment,then figured
…naw that be stupidd”
..Have fun with it!

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:46:53am

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

I believe that in a lot of places these days they tend to try to house prisoners with people of their own race, to cut down on problems.

That, and they ask you what gang you claim so they can toss you in with your own.

Ericus58 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:48:27am

re: #10 Charles

By the way, if anyone’s on Twitter, I’ve been getting into it with Andrew Breitbart today. Blogger Adam Holland chimed in too. It’s a pretty fun little roast.

Tweek their noses, Charles. They’re trying to punch several classes higher than theirs… Epic Fail for them.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:48:35am

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

To bad….He needs to hangout with the Bloods!

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:49:39am

re: #15 reloadingisnotahobby

To bad…He needs to hangout with the Bloods!

He’s a Crap.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:50:10am

re: #15 reloadingisnotahobby

There’s always the yard, and work details. Not that I condone prison justice, mind you.

reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:51:36am

re: #10 Charles

By the way, if anyone’s on Twitter, I’ve been getting into it with Andrew Breitbart today. Blogger Adam Holland chimed in too. It’s a pretty fun little roast.

Yeah, I’ve been looking at it but can’t figure out who it’s about.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:51:54am

re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth
I wouldn’t condone it either…but some life forms
area waste of useful Oxygen…..

CuriousLurker Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:54:09am

More on the packages in MD from the WSJ:

“DHS is aware and closely monitoring reports of an incident involving two packages that arrived at two Maryland state facilities,” a federal Department of Homeland Security official said.

The Maryland Emergency Management Agency sent out a bulletin that two packages delivered to state facilities had “detonated” creating small explosions. One of the packages looked like a book-mailer, according to the bulletin. All Maryland state agencies were told to lock down their mail rooms immediately.

The packages were delivered to the Jeffrey Building in downtown Annapolis and the Maryland Department of Transportation headquarters in Hanover, near the Baltimore-Washington International Airport.

reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:56:18am

re: #18 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I’ve been looking at it but can’t figure out who it’s about.

Ah. Shirley Sherrod.

dmon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:59:21am

re: #21 reine.de.tout

I’m sure you cant shame Breitbart…..I mean…… this was just a black grandma…… its not like she was a real amerikun grandma or anything/////

Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:00:00pm

re: #18 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I’ve been looking at it but can’t figure out who it’s about.

It started when Breitbart attacked me out of the blue a couple of days ago, for noting that Andrew Napolitano is a 9/11 Truther. He brought up Van Jones in a pathetic attempt to excuse Napolitano, and it’s developed from there into a discussion of his shabby smear of Shirley Sherrod.

Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:03:54pm

re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth

There’s always the yard, and work details. Not that I condone prison justice, mind you.

The penal system here in Idaho is pretty well screwed. It’s partly run by a private company called Corrections Corporation of America

Management by mayhem: Now isn’t that special?

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:05:32pm

re: #23 Charles

It started when Breitbart attacked me out of the blue a couple of days ago, for noting that Andrew Napolitano is a 9/11 Truther. He brought up Van Jones in a pathetic attempt to excuse Napolitano, and it’s developed from there into a discussion of his shabby smear of Shirley Sherrod.

It’s nice to see the 9-11 Truth thing hits a sore spot with them.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:08:55pm

re: #6 Alouette

I don’t think Doughboy here could hang with any of the prison gangs. He’s a wannabe, they are the real deal.

Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:09:51pm

Packages Explode At Maryland State Government Buildings

Maryland officials say two packages have exploded in two government buildings in the state capital and another city.

Maryland state police say there were no serious injuries. The explosions occurred Thursday afternoon at the Jeffrey Building on Francis Street in downtown Annapolis and another at the Maryland Department of Transportation building in Hanover.

Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:11:48pm

Ten years sounds like a slap on the wrist for fucking with the trial system. He needs to be made an example of.

Eclectic Infidel Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:12:05pm

re: #6 Alouette

I am sure he will make lots of new “Aryan Nations” friends in the Big House.

Is there any way to make sure he is only locked up with Blacks and Hispanics? Or would that be cruel & unusual (to the Blacks and Hispanics)

House his nazi ass next to the black Muslim brotherhood. He’d be their entertainment for as long as it takes prison administration to realize the nazi doesn’t have long for the world.

simoom Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:13:37pm

re: #10 Charles

By the way, if anyone’s on Twitter, I’ve been getting into it with Andrew Breitbart today. Blogger Adam Holland chimed in too. It’s a pretty fun little roast.

Uggh, I need turn the brightness down on my display. An afterimage of neon Breitbart heads is now burned into my retinas (from visiting his twitter feed).

Image: eboehlert.jpg

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:15:19pm

re: #26 moderatelyradicalliberal

I don’t think Doughboy here could hang with any of the prison gangs. He’s a wannabe, they are the real deal.

You mean that even the “Aryan Brotherhood” would think he’s a wuss?

Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:15:37pm

Maybe Helen Thomas will cover the story.

Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:16:06pm

re: #30 simoom

Uggh, I need turn the brightness down on my display. An afterimage of neon Breitbart heads is now burned into my retinas (from visiting his twitter feed).

Image: eboehlert.jpg

It’s kind of cute how Breitbart retweets everything negative someone says to him — he’s calling in the knuckle-draggers who follow him. His tweets are invariably followed by a chorus of dim-witted sycophants.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:17:26pm

re: #31 Alouette

Yes. Maybe I watched too many episodes of Oz, but I’m thinking he’s a girl to them. I almost feel sorry for his ass.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:19:29pm

re: #34 moderatelyradicalliberal

Yes. Maybe I watched too many episodes of Oz, but I’m thinking he’s a girl to them. I almost feel sorry for his ass.

I read somewhere that white convicts will join the “Aryan Brotherhood” even if they are completely non-racist, just for protection.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:21:03pm

re: #35 Alouette

I read somewhere that white convicts will join the “Aryan Brotherhood” even if they are completely non-racist, just for protection.

Tis so

CuriousLurker Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:23:35pm

re: #27 Amory Blaine

Packages Explode At Maryland State Government Buildings

I wonder if it was a disgruntled ex-employee or something as I would think lone-wolf jihadis or anti-government types would go after federal facilities, and “professional” terrorists would try for something more spectacular.

I guess we’ll find out soon enough. From what I’ve been reading so far it sounds like there weren’t any serious injuries, thank goodness.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:24:34pm

re: #35 Alouette

This true about a lot of the gangs. Also, this guy was convicted of soliciting violence, not actually doing violence. Thugs don’t get credit from other thugs for soliciting crime, they get credit for doing crime. I’m nice middle class girl who went through a brief “bad boy” phase so a have some passing familiarity with the mindset and this guys has no real bragging rights. I don’t think the Aryan Brotherhood will be impressed.

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:25:48pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

I wonder if it was a disgruntled ex-employee or something as I would think lone-wolf jihadis or anti-government types would go after federal facilities, and “professional” terrorists would try for something more spectacular.

I guess we’ll find out soon enough. From what I’ve been reading so far it sounds like there weren’t any serious injuries, thank goodness.

It doesn’t sound like Jihadis to me. Probably either an anti-government wingnut or someone with a grudge over a traffic ticket/court ruling/Tax dispute.
Thankfully it seems their bomb wasn’t properly constructed.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:28:01pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

It doesn’t sound like Jihadis to me. Probably either an anti-government wingnut or someone with a grudge over a traffic ticket/court ruling/Tax dispute.
Thankfully it seems their bomb wasn’t properly constructed.

Neither was the Times Square “bomber”, but I agree, I don’t think it’s Jihadis

CuriousLurker Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:30:06pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

It doesn’t sound like Jihadis to me. Probably either an anti-government wingnut or someone with a grudge over a traffic ticket/court ruling/Tax dispute.
Thankfully it seems their bomb wasn’t properly constructed.

I hope they catch them soon and put them in jail for a LONG time. No one, and I mean NO ONE has the right to hurt innocent people, no matter what their grievance is. This kind of injustice makes my blood boil.

Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:30:56pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

It doesn’t sound like Jihadis to me. Probably either an anti-government wingnut or someone with a grudge over a traffic ticket/court ruling/Tax dispute.
Thankfully it seems their bomb wasn’t properly constructed.

Do we know for sure these were bombs? There are other things that can explode and/or catch fire — batteries, spray cans, etc.

Ericus58 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:33:01pm

re: #33 Charles

It’s kind of cute how Breitbart retweets everything negative someone says to him — he’s calling in the knuckle-draggers who follow him. His tweets are invariably followed by a chorus of dim-witted sycophants.

Bonus points for “sycophants”!

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:34:06pm

re: #42 Charles

Do we know for sure these were bombs? There are other things that can explode and/or catch fire — batteries, spray cans, etc.

There were two of them so I think a freak accident would be unlikely.

researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:34:58pm

Soon enough Mr White will be sharing a cell or the yard with very large, nice man who goes by the name of Peaches.

Yes, today is a good day.

Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:35:42pm

re: #42 Charles

Do we know for sure these were bombs? There are other things that can explode and catch fire — batteries, spray cans, etc.

They appear to have been incendiary devices.

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:35:49pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

There were two of them so I think a freak accident would be unlikely.

I think he meant something more along the lines of an incendiary device as opposed to a bomb.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:35:50pm

re: #45 researchok

Peaches, LOL!

Ericus58 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:36:03pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

There were two of them so I think a freak accident would be unlikely.

“A law enforcement source tells CBS News the package in Annapolis was addressed to Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley at the governor’s mansion, but was taken to the state offices.

The packages created smoke and an odor when they were opened, and CBS reports one flamed up while the other fizzled. Maryland State Police spokesman Greg Shipley says the packages were small, describing them as about the size of a book.”
[Link: www.wtop.com…]

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:36:29pm

re: #42 Charles

Do we know for sure these were bombs? There are other things that can explode and catch fire — batteries, spray cans, etc.

Two simultaneous “explosions” in two seperate buildings leads me to think it’s more than an improperly packaged can of bug spray being shipped somewhere

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:37:01pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

I think he meant something more along the lines of an incendiary device as opposed to a bomb.

Ah, ok. Yeah, it could have just been road flares rigged to ignite on opening just to create a scene.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:37:36pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

I think he meant something more along the lines of an incendiary device as opposed to a bomb.

If it was constructed to explode, whether or not it was made out of gun powder or an aerosol can or batteries, it’s a BOMB

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:38:25pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Ah, ok. Yeah, it could have just been road flares rigged to ignite on opening just to create a scene.

And that, by definition makes it a bomb I would think!

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:39:26pm

re: #53 sattv4u2

And that, by definition makes it a bomb I would think!

No, it wouldn’t.
An incendiary device is different from a bomb.

Ericus58 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:40:18pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

No, it wouldn’t.
An incendiary device is different from a bomb.

You are correct, Sir.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:40:48pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

re: #51 Killgore Trout

# 2, # 4 and # 13
[Link: dictionary.reference.com…]

MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:41:14pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

No, it wouldn’t.
An incendiary device is different from a bomb.

No matter what it is, I’m sure it’s gonna screw up my commute home.

Yes, it’s all about me.

/ on the second sentence.

Lidane Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:41:14pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

It’s nice to see the 9-11 Truth thing hits a sore spot with them.

It should hit a sore spot with anyone who has more than two brain cells to rub together. I’m still waiting for more people on the right to push back against that garbage, but given their embrace of Alex Jones, I doubt it will ever happen. =P

Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:43:15pm

Incendiary device

Incendiary weapons, incendiary devices or incendiary bombs are bombs designed to start fires or destroy sensitive equipment using materials such as napalm, thermite, chlorine trifluoride, or white phosphorus.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:44:21pm

re: #59 Bubblehead II

t/y

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:46:21pm

dern it

Gotta go pick up my son from school

I will be SO happy when he gets his license in the spring!

MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:47:11pm

re: #61 sattv4u2

dern it

Gotta go pick up my son from school

I will be SO happy when he gets his license in the spring!

You say that now… wait until he has it. It’ll open up a whole new floodgate of issues.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:47:46pm

re: #61 sattv4u2

Only briefly. ;)

Sionainn Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:47:51pm

Holy cow, Charles. I just read the link to the threat from White. I’m shaking my head at the shit you have to put up with.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:50:27pm

re: #61 sattv4u2

dern it

Gotta go pick up my son from school

I will be SO happy when he gets his license in the spring!

Are you getting him his own car?

If not, then you will continue to enjoy picking him up from school.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:51:07pm

re: #62 MrSilverDragon

You say that now… wait until he has it. It’ll open up a whole new floodgate of issues.

Nahh

A) he’s a great, responsible kid
B) right now, I pay $150 a month for his school bus fees. His car insurance wil be half of that
C) no more driving him TOO the bus at 07:00 and picking him up either from the bus or after school if he stays for an activity
D) no more shutteling him to/from friends houses on weekends
E) he’s had his permit for 7 months now and (ssshhh) is already a better driver than Mrs. Satty!!

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:52:12pm

re: #65 Alouette

Are you getting him his own car?

If not, then you will continue to enjoy picking him up from school.

We have 4 vehicles (there’s only me, my wife and him) so he’ll get to take whichever one my wife isn’t using and I don’t take to work on a particular day

Kronocide Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:52:14pm

re: #59 Bubblehead II

Shh! Don’t say THERMITE. When you say THERMITE it gets the THERMITians all worked up. So don’t say THERMITE.

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:52:22pm

re: #66 sattv4u2

Nahh

A) he’s a great, responsible kid
B) right now, I pay $150 a month for his school bus fees. His car insurance wil be half of that
C) no more driving him TOO the bus at 07:00 and picking him up either from the bus or after school if he stays for an activity
D) no more shutteling him to/from friends houses on weekends
E) he’s had his permit for 7 months now and (ssshhh) is already a better driver than Mrs. Satty!!

I just felt a great disturbance in the Force.

MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:52:51pm

re: #66 sattv4u2

Nahh

A) he’s a great, responsible kid
B) right now, I pay $150 a month for his school bus fees. His car insurance wil be half of that
C) no more driving him TOO the bus at 07:00 and picking him up either from the bus or after school if he stays for an activity
D) no more shutteling him to/from friends houses on weekends
E) he’s had his permit for 7 months now and (ssshhh) is already a better driver than Mrs. Satty!!

I will say that I was speaking from my own experiences when I got my license as a teen… I was never one to strictly follow the rules. YMMV. :)

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:52:54pm

re: #69 Varek Raith

I just felt a great disturbance in the Force.

I posted that knowing she’s not in the house and can’t sneak up behind me!

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:53:23pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

I posted that knowing she’s not in the house and can’t sneak up behind me!

Watch out, she already knows.

reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:54:53pm

re: #66 sattv4u2

Nahh

A) he’s a great, responsible kid
B) right now, I pay $150 a month for his school bus fees. His car insurance wil be half of that
C) no more driving him TOO the bus at 07:00 and picking him up either from the bus or after school if he stays for an activity
D) no more shutteling him to/from friends houses on weekends
E) he’s had his permit for 7 months now and (ssshhh) is already a better driver than Mrs. Satty!!

And of course, Mrs. Satty is a better driver than you, correct?
Right?

A few years ago my daughter came to me and asked, Mom, who’s smarter, you or Dad?
“Why, I am, of course!” I answered.

She then trotted into the room where her dad was: Dad, who’s smarter, you or Mom?

“Why, your Mother, of course!” he answered. Smart man.

hehehehe.
She was figuring to start something …didn’t work.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:55:05pm

re: #70 MrSilverDragon

I will say that I was speaking from my own experiences when I got my license as a teen… I was never one to strictly follow the rules. YMMV. :)

Gotchya

I’ve actually been “teaching him” (rules of the road,, what to look for ,, preaching that cars aren’t toys,,, taking him to a freinds owened auto body shop to see what one looks like after a teen was drinking/ driving)

darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:56:00pm

Is Sarah Palin taking a jab at John McCain?

HeyTammyBruce But this hypocrisy is just truly too much. Enuf already—the more someone complains about the homos the more we should look under their bed
10:57 AM Jan 4th via web Retweeted by SarahPalinUSA and 100+ others

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:57:30pm

re: #73 reine.de.tout

And of course, Mrs. Satty is a better driver than you, correct?
Right?

Mrs Satty has hit everything but the lottery!!
3rd week she had her new car, she backed out of a friends
driveway taking the mailbox with her

4 weeks ago she got a tad too close to a drive up ATM machine
(the new drivers side mirror will be installed next week to replace the one that ended up on the banks parking lot)

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:58:44pm

re: #70 MrSilverDragon

re: #74 sattv4u2

Gotchya

I’ve actually been “teaching him” SINCE HE WAS 12 OR SO (rules of the road,, what to look for ,, preaching that cars aren’t toys,,, taking him to a freinds owened auto body shop to see what one looks like after a teen was drinking/ driving)

pimf

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 12:59:32pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

And of course, Mrs. Satty is a better driver than you, correct?
Right?

Mrs Satty has hit everything but the lottery!!
3rd week she had her new car, she backed out of a friends
driveway taking the mailbox with her

4 weeks ago she got a tad too close to a drive up ATM machine
(the new drivers side mirror will be installed next week to replace the one that ended up on the banks parking lot)

Irrelevant.
She’s a better driver than you.
Geez, I’m single and I know this shit!
:P

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:00:57pm

re: #78 Varek Raith

Irrelevant.
She’s a better driver than you.
Geez, I’m single and I know this shit!
:P

K then

YOU drive with her the 600 miles from here to Pawleys Island this summer!! (she’ll have her AAA card with her, fyi!)

Slap Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:02:09pm

re: #74 sattv4u2

Gotchya

I’ve actually been “teaching him” (rules of the road,, what to look for ,, preaching that cars aren’t toys,,, taking him to a freinds owened auto body shop to see what one looks like after a teen was drinking/ driving)

FWIW, as a former Harley rider, I can tell you that the single most useful skill I deep-learned was extending my vision far in front of me. I don’t recall ever hearing that emphasized in any of my training classes as a fledgling driver, but learning it changed me as a driver permanently and positively. You’ll be doing the other drivers of the world a great service if you can manage to get that little nugget embedded in his driving habits….

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:02:20pm

re: #79 sattv4u2

K then

YOU drive with her the 600 miles from here to Pawleys Island this summer!! (she’ll have her AAA card with her, fyi!)

I don’t know and have no opinion.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:02:55pm

re: #80 Slap

FWIW, as a former Harley rider, I can tell you that the single most useful skill I deep-learned was extending my vision far in front of me. I don’t recall ever hearing that emphasized in any of my training classes as a fledgling driver, but learning it changed me as a driver permanently and positively. You’ll be doing the other drivers of the world a great service if you can manage to get that little nugget embedded in his driving habits…

BINGO

Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:03:29pm

BTW, I posted yesterday about a bomb scare here in town. Here is the final report on it.

Twin Falls police investigate, destroy suspicious suitcase left near propane tanks.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:04:25pm

re: #80 Slap

Actually, because “we” have access to work vehicles my company makes us take a mandatory drivers ed course once every three years and the “extended vison” is emphasized

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:05:56pm

re: #80 Slap

re: #84 sattv4u2

Actually, because “we” have access to work vehicles my company makes us take a mandatory drivers ed course once every three years and the “extended vison” is emphasized

[Link: www.smith-system.com…]

Look at the “FIVE KEYS” on the left

brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:06:20pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

Actually, because “we” have access to work vehicles my company makes us take a mandatory drivers ed course once every three years and the “extended vison” is emphasized

my only comment on driving is to always assume the other guy is stupid…

Slap Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:06:27pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

It’s such a common-sense thing — you’d think that we’d know it without being told. But it’s amazing how much of a difference it makes….

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:07:16pm

re: #68 BigPapa

Shh! Don’t say THERMITE. When you say THERMITE it gets the THERMITians all worked up. So don’t say THERMITE.

I have an exterminator comes by once a month and sprays for them !

MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:07:53pm

re: #86 brookly red

my only comment on driving is to always assume the other guy is stupid…

Being that I drive in the DC Metro area, I don’t need to assume, because I already know.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:08:01pm

re: #87 Slap

It’s such a common-sense thing — you’d think that we’d know it without being told. But it’s amazing how much of a difference it makes…

heh,, you can see people driving near you, their eyes focused only on the back of the car in front of them

cliffster Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:08:07pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

It doesn’t sound like Jihadis to me. Probably either an anti-government wingnut or someone with a grudge over a traffic ticket/court ruling/Tax dispute.
Thankfully it seems their bomb wasn’t properly constructed.

primary suspect - terrorist cat

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:08:09pm

Breitbart on Twitter is nothing but trolling. Almost like /b/.

sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:08:36pm

K ,,gotta go

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:08:44pm

re: #91 cliffster

primary suspect - terrorist cat

Cat just told them to piss off.

darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:09:30pm

O’Reilly to Boehner - “Quit your fuckin’ whining”

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:10:28pm

re: #95 darthstar

O’Reilly to Boehner - “Quit your fuckin’ whining”

Must…not…make…obvious gutter…joke…

lawhawk Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:10:39pm

re: #91 cliffster

Upon being told that he was being frisked, the feline got catty and SWAT moved in with extreme force. /odds on the police commissioner being a dog? very high.

brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:11:11pm

re: #90 sattv4u2

heh,, you can see people driving near you, their eyes focused only on the back of the car in front of them

then how do they txt?

lawhawk Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:12:18pm

re: #98 brookly red

By steering with their knees… /do I have to think of everything?! /

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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:18:12pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

re: #84 sattv4u2

[Link: www.smith-system.com…]

Look at the “FIVE KEYS” on the left

Here’s my problem: I couldn’t find the five keys because I was looking on the right. Or as Mr. w often says, “Your OTHER left!”

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Lidane Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:18:51pm

re: #92 000G

Breitbart on Twitter is nothing but trolling. Almost like /b/.

Except that /b/ are far more creative in their trolling. Brietbart is an amateur in comparison. =P

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Stan the Demanded Plan Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:19:11pm

#
# Breaking News BreakingNews

Postal Inspector’s Office confirms third suspicious package at a State Office building in Baltimore - ABC [Link: bit.ly…]

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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:19:46pm

I can remember as a teen learning to drive from the passengers seat so the dog could sit behind the wheel… it seemed funny at the time.

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Ericus58 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:24:25pm

NPR exec resigns as review of Williams’ firing concludes

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

“Ellen Weiss, the NPR executive who fired news analyst Juan Williams by phone in October, resigned Thursday just as NPR’s Board of Directors released recommendations based on an independent review of the incident.

NPR released two statements Thursday, both the Board’s recommendations and news about Weiss’s departure. And each statement mentions the other. Still, NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher told The Cutline that “these are two distinct pieces of news.”“

Riiight.

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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:30:23pm

re: #104 Ericus58

NPR exec resigns as review of Williams’ firing concludes

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

“Ellen Weiss, the NPR executive who fired news analyst Juan Williams by phone in October, resigned Thursday just as NPR’s Board of Directors released recommendations based on an independent review of the incident.

NPR released two statements Thursday, both the Board’s recommendations and news about Weiss’s departure. And each statement mentions the other. Still, NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher told The Cutline that “these are two distinct pieces of news.”“

Riiight.

Before Juan Williams I had never heard of NPR… I was surprised that such a thing existed.

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Buck Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:30:51pm

re: #104 Ericus58

NPR exec resigns as review of Williams’ firing concludes

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

“Ellen Weiss, the NPR executive who fired news analyst Juan Williams by phone in October, resigned Thursday just as NPR’s Board of Directors released recommendations based on an independent review of the incident.

NPR released two statements Thursday, both the Board’s recommendations and news about Weiss’s departure. And each statement mentions the other. Still, NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher told The Cutline that “these are two distinct pieces of news.”“

Riiight.

Her firing was handled very different than his….

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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:37:43pm

Are LGF pages down?

I just made a post about Bachmann and both times the pages didn’t load.

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Ericus58 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:39:22pm

re: #106 Buck

Her firing was handled very different than his…

I listen to NPR/PRI News Hour/The World everyday to and from work. Heck, I try to catch Garrison Keillor too - and him and I are not on the same page politically for the most part.
I enjoy NPR.

But the lazy, crass firing of Juan was just BS.

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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:39:47pm

re: #104 Ericus58

NPR exec resigns as review of Williams’ firing concludes

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

“Ellen Weiss, the NPR executive who fired news analyst Juan Williams by phone in October, resigned Thursday just as NPR’s Board of Directors released recommendations based on an independent review of the incident.

NPR released two statements Thursday, both the Board’s recommendations and news about Weiss’s departure. And each statement mentions the other. Still, NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher told The Cutline that “these are two distinct pieces of news.”“

Riiight.

More dirt here. The LA Times indicates that Vivian Schiller was admonished for her role in this mess as your link indicates will not receive her 2010 bonus.

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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:43:20pm

re: #107 eclectic infidel

Are LGF pages down?

I just made a post about Bachmann and both times the pages didn’t load.

Refresh the page. I see both posted.

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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:46:08pm

Guess everyone already heard that Obama picked William Daley for Chief of Staff. He’s a member of the JP Morgan Chase Executive Committee. He’s also a Board of Director for Merck & Co. Nice combo here. Big bank and big pharma. Vely intellesting.

Move On speaks out:

Meanwhile MoveOn.org, a leading liberal organization, highlighted Daley’s ties to “Big Banks and Big Business,” saying his selection “is troubling and sends the wrong message to the American people.”

“If President Obama listens to that kind of political advice from Bill Daley, Democrats will suffer a disastrous 2012,” said Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which recently launched a television ad in Iowa criticizing the president’s compromise on Bush-era tax rates.

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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 1:50:21pm

re: #111 Gus 802

Guess everyone already heard that Obama picked William Daley for Chief of Staff. He’s a member of the JP Morgan Chase Executive Committee. He’s also a Board of Director for Merck & Co. Nice combo here. Big bank and big pharma. Vely intellesting.

Move On speaks out:

Then there the US Chamber of Commerce connection:

WASHINGTON, D.C.-The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is pleased to announce that A.B. Culvahouse, chairman of O’Melveny & Myers LLP, will succeed Robert K. Steel as co-chair of the Commission on the Regulation of U.S. Capital Markets in the 21st Century. Steel, retired vice chairman of Goldman Sachs & Co., stepped down from the commission following his confirmation by the United States Senate as undersecretary of the treasury for domestic finance. Culvahouse, a member of the commission since its formation earlier this year, will serve as co-chair with William M. Daley, chairman of the Midwest Region of JPMorgan Chase and a former Secretary of Commerce.

What was that about the Chamber of Commerce? Thought I read some things last year. Guess it was leader “retracted”.

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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:05:06pm

Hi. I needed to reset Safari. Still adjusting to being a Mac user.

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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:07:23pm

Will Obama anger the left again by hiring Bill Daley?

When word leaked yesterday that President Obama might be considering former Commerce Secretary Bill Daley as his next chief of staff, the reaction was immediate: Obama was about to start another war with his most liberal supporters.

After all, Daley, a hard-charging pro-business centrist, has a long history of clashing with those on the left. As President Clinton’s Commerce secretary, Daley earned the wrath of the labor movement by pushing for the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) as well as trade with China. In 1999, AFL-CIO president John Sweeney declared Daley to be “squarely on the opposite side of working families.”

115

brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:07:43pm

re: #112 Gus 802

I am not sure what you are getting to?

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cliffster Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:07:46pm

Bill O’Reilly to interview Obama before the Super Bowl

I wonder if he’ll ask about his birth certificate? I wonder if he’ll ask why he hasn’t set up a playoff in College Football?

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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:08:09pm

re: #115 brookly red

I am not sure what you are getting to?

Muckraking. ;)

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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:09:48pm

re: #113 eclectic infidel

Hi. I needed to reset Safari. Still adjusting to being a Mac user.

I am using Safari for the P.C. I have to reset it every now and then because the drop down menus start to flicker (after having multiple windows open) and it messes with my secondary monitor as well (flickering). Anybody else have this problem?

119

Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:10:33pm

re: #117 Gus 802

Muckraking. ;)

From 2000: Gore’s New Chairman Raises Job’s Visibility

“Organized labor and the working men and women are at the heart of this campaign because they’re the ones who will benefit as Al Gore keeps this economy strong,” Daley said on ABC’s “This Week.” He said he has spoken directly to AFL-CIO President John Sweeney and a handful of union leaders to assure them Gore will not walk away from labor’s agenda.

The comments followed expressions of dismay from key labor leaders at Gore’s choice of Daley to succeed Coelho. The union officials cited Daley’s lead role in lobbying for congressional passage of both China trade legislation this year and the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1993.

Sweeney has said those initiatives put Daley “squarely on the opposite side of working families.”

The Teamsters called Daley’s selection a “slap in the face to organized labor.”

U.S. unions have grown increasingly opposed to trade agreements, saying they threaten U.S. jobs, exploit workers in poor countries and lead to environmental degradation.

Daley on Sunday acknowledged an “honest disagreement” with organized labor over trade. He said that “open trade” would be central to Gore’s economic program but that Gore as president would ensure future trade agreements had labor and environmental components, a key issue for labor.

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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:18:09pm

I haven’t come across the flickering myself.

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freetoken Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:19:36pm

Hehe… get this:

Koch Industries Files Lawsuit

Koch Industries has filed suit in Utah seeking to learn who’s behind a media hoax claiming the Wichita-based company was shifting its financial commitments for climate change research and advocacy to more environmentally friendly groups.

Koch issued a statement saying it filed the federal lawsuit in response to identity theft, theft of intellectual property and impersonation that extends beyond the boundaries of free speech.

The lawsuit against unknown defendants stems from a bogus website and fake news release issued last month. The company says the web-hosting companies that registered the domain name and hosted the bogus website are located in Utah.

The companies in question say they have complied with the subpoenas.

A little background: a while back someone put up a spoof Koch website that made Koch look like it was trying to amend its ways of astroturfing anti-environmental groups.

Now, the real Koch is upset, so they’re going to sue whatever person (college student?) was behind creating the fake website.

One could, I suppose, claim that Koch is only trying to protect their trademark and name. Yet, when one realizes the extent to which the Koch brothers have used shadowy connections (astroturfing, deception) to further their own agenda, including undermining national policy on environmental issues, the stunning hypocrisy stands out.

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garhighway Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:02:12pm

re: #119 Gus 802

The guy liked NAFTA and works well with big companies, but has a ton of friends in the Democratic party.

That sounds promising.

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ClaudeMonet Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:50:09pm

re: #16 Alouette

He’s a Crap.

That’s an insult to the turds of the world.

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