Why Does Glenn Beck Hate Science?
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Glenn Beck isn’t going to be fooled by those tricksy scientists. He knows better.
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:27:23pm |
Does anyone ever look at the Media Matters web-site? Geez. They’re more obsessed with Fox News than I am with boobs.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:29:07pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:31:03pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
Does anyone ever look at the Media Matters web-site? Geez. They’re more obsessed with Fox News than I am with boobs.
I am not going to slam MM, but their 501c3 status is kinda dubious at best.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:31:21pm |
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jaunte Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:31:43pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
mediamatters.org
Fox News is a rich vein.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:32:06pm |
No crazier than believing in any sort of god. Pots calling the kettle black.
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:35:17pm |
re: #6 jaunte
“Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center… “
Progressive. Yeah, right.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:36:24pm |
re: #6 jaunte
Fox News is a rich vein.
re: #1 rwmofo
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
[Link: mediamatters.org…]
yet to be a 501c3, they technically need to be non-partisan, & by their own admission they are not…
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jaunte Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:39:17pm |
re: #9 brookly red
Unless Fox is running for office, I think they’re clear.
To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates
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Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues.
irs.gov
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:39:34pm |
Would Beck be including MIT scientists who are self-professed conservatives?
According to the conventional wisdom that liberals accept climate change and conservatives don’t, Kerry Emanuel is an oxymoron.Emanuel sees himself as a conservative. He believes marriage is between a man and a woman. He backs a strong military. He almost always votes Republican and admires Ronald Reagan.
Emanuel is also a highly regarded professor of atmospheric science at MIT. And based on his work on hurricanes and the research of his peers, Emanuel has concluded that the scientific data show a powerful link between greenhouse gas emissions and climate change.
“There was never a light-bulb moment but a gradual realization based on the evidence,” Emanuel said. “I became convinced by the basic physics and by the better and better observation of the climate that it was changing and it was a risk that had to be considered.”
As a politically conservative climatologist who accepts the broad scientific consensus on global warming, Emanuel occupies a position shared by only a few scientists.
In much the same role that marriage and abortion played in previous election cycles, denial of climate change has now become a litmus test for the right.
The vast majority of Republicans elected to Congress during the midterm election doubt climate science, and senior congressional conservatives — Republican and Democrat — have vowed to fight Obama administration efforts to curtail greenhouse gas emissions.
That’s why scientists such as Emanuel rattle the political pigeonholes. Some are speaking out, using their expertise and conservative credentials to challenge what many researchers consider widespread distortions about climate change.
More please. And faster.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:40:40pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:41:04pm |
re: #9 brookly red
What does Media Matters have to do with this, besides the fact that they provided the video?
Did you bother taking the time to actually watch the video before you attacked Media Matters?
If so, what objection do you have with the video Charles posted?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:42:21pm |
Hot Air has an article in thier Headlines section: “Conservative MIT scientist: Yes, global warming is real”. Of course the wingnuts all consider him an Obama supporter trying to discredit real conservatives.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:42:53pm |
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:42:55pm |
OK, I’ll bite. Whom does Glenn Beck believe?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:43:48pm |
re: #18 calochortus
OK, I’ll bite. Whom does Glenn Beck believe?
Oil companies, Kock Bros. and the John Birch Society.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:44:40pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
Hot Air has an article in thier Headlines section: “Conservative MIT scientist: Yes, global warming is real”. Of course the wingnuts all consider him an Obama supporter trying to discredit real conservatives.
They’ve already decided on the storyline: Any scientist who believes in AGW is a “Obama Supporter” and a “Totalitarian Progressive”.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:44:45pm |
re: #9 brookly red
re: #1 rwmofo
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
[Link: mediamatters.org…]yet to be a 501c3, they technically need to be non-partisan, & by their own admission they are not…
I think “partisan” in this case must be more like Dem/Repub, and less like Left/Right ideologies.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:45:06pm |
re: #15 Reginald Perrin
What does Media Matters have to do with this, besides the fact that they provided the video?
Did you bother taking the time to actually watch the video before you attacked Media Matters?
If so, what objection do you have with the video Charles posted?
yes I did watch the video, and I snarked I believe I will have another beer… I also said I would not slam them (a point you left out when saying I attacked them) but I do find their tax status somewhat interesting… now go find someone else to bother.
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:45:21pm |
Becky’s ratings are down. I tuned in yesterday to his radio show, and his whole schtick for the new year sounds like something from Oprah.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:45:59pm |
re: #21 Decatur Deb
I think “partisan” in this case must be more like Dem/Repub, and less like Left/Right ideologies.
perhaps…
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:46:18pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:46:29pm |
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:46:42pm |
Does here: #19 Killgore Trout
Reliable, unbiased sources all.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:47:01pm |
re: #22 brookly red
It was a diversionary tactic…. and very lame. Come on BR, you have got to up your game some, this is LGF.
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Locker Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:47:31pm |
Laugh I watching people talk shit and then cry when corrected. I’m speaking of Gren Breck of course!
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:47:40pm |
re: #23 prairiefire
Becky’s ratings are down. I tuned in yesterday to his radio show, and his whole schtick for the new year sounds like something from Oprah.
Shocka!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:47:54pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:48:44pm |
re: #23 prairiefire
Becky’s ratings are down. I tuned in yesterday to his radio show, and his whole schtick for the new year sounds like something from Oprah.
Crazy gets you ratings for a time, but it gets old after a while. And Glenn Beck has nothing to replace the crazy with.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:49:23pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
Does anyone ever look at the Media Matters web-site? Geez. They’re more obsessed with Fox News than I am with boobs.
Maybe if Fox News didn’t lie so much they wouldn’t have to be corrected so often….
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:49:25pm |
re: #28 Reginald Perrin
It was a diversionary tactic… and very lame. Come on BR, you have got to up your game some, this is LGF.
I think he’s doing fine.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:50:42pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:50:49pm |
re: #22 brookly red
You haven;t answered my question, what is so objectionable about the Media Matters video?
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:50:51pm |
re: #9 brookly red
re: #1 rwmofo
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
[Link: mediamatters.org…]yet to be a 501c3, they technically need to be non-partisan, & by their own admission they are not…
I thought 501(c)(3) just said non-profit what’s the code for a non profit partisan organization?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:51:00pm |
re: #31 Decatur Deb
Yeah—there will be gray areas where lawyers frolic.
those areas are considered billable hours
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:51:12pm |
Now down-dinging diversionary comments. Nothing personal. But you know what you were doing.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:51:42pm |
re: #23 prairiefire
Becky’s ratings are down. I tuned in yesterday to his radio show, and his whole schtick for the new year sounds like something from Oprah.
Watch for the radio stations to start dumping him.
Or for his schtick to ramp up & attempt to revive ratings.
ALA Dr. Laura.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:52:20pm |
re: #28 Reginald Perrin
It was a diversionary tactic… and very lame. Come on BR, you have got to up your game some, this is LGF.
diversionary tactic ? oh you learned an new phrase after only hearing it once! I am so proud of you.
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Linden Arden Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:52:25pm |
I recently saw a Beck clip where he shows “proof” that Israelites founded America by showing a Bat Creek Stone that was buried a couple thousand years ago with Hebrew inscriptions.
He went on to say scientists hadn’t caught the Hebrew writing because they examined the stone holding it upside down.
The guy is comedy gold until I realize that his gullible fans believe his crazy shit.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:52:35pm |
re: #28 Reginald Perrin
It was a diversionary tactic… and very lame. Come on BR, you have got to up your game some, this is LGF.
diversionary tactics?….sounds vewy vewy insidious
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jaunte Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:52:36pm |
re: #37 jamesfirecat
There are tons of conservative leaning 501(c)(3) organizations, too.
They just don’t talk about the foolish things Fox news does.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:52:41pm |
re: #32 Dark_Falcon
Crazy gets you ratings for a time, but it gets old after a while. And Glenn Beck has nothing to replace the crazy with.
Even more crazy?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:53:04pm |
re: #35 freetoken
Tricksy, tricksy, scientists…
[Video]I wonder if Glenn Beck talks to himself too?
He obsesses over the One Ring because it is solid gold. It reciprocates by pumping even more Bad Craziness into his head.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:53:52pm |
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:01pm |
I hardly ever watch FNC. If I can catch Red Eye, I will.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:14pm |
re: #28 Reginald Perrin
It was a diversionary tactic… and very lame. Come on BR, you have got to up your game some, this is LGF.
You really can do better, if you try!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:32pm |
re: #45 jamesfirecat
Even more crazy?
That doesn’t really work. Lasting success really does require substance, which Beck lacks.
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:36pm |
re: #45 jamesfirecat
Even more crazy?
Maybe the corporate lawyers reined him in a bit after the nutcase who was arrested on his way to shoot up the Tides Foundation mentioned Beck’s influence.
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blueraven Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:38pm |
re: #4 brookly red
I am not going to slam MM, but their 501c3 status is kinda dubious at best.
No more dubious than Fox as a legitimate news organization.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:41pm |
If someone can interpret Andrew Breitbart’s latest tweet to me, I’d be much obliged.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:54pm |
re: #46 Dark_Falcon
He obsesses over the One Ring because it is solid gold. It reciprocates by pumping even more Bad Craziness into his head.
Solid gold?
I disbelieve.
If it was “solid gold” then a Dawrven battle axe would have gone through it like hot knife through butter!
(I pick weird things to get hung up on don’t I?)
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:54:59pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
Does anyone ever look at the Media Matters web-site? Geez. They’re more obsessed with Fox News than I am with boobs.
Someone has to do it since the MSM refuses to call them on their bullshit….
Boobs are nice.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:55:28pm |
re: #36 Reginald Perrin
You haven;t answered my question, what is so objectionable about the Media Matters video?
I never said I objected, in fact it amused me to the point I snarked about it… now as far as your authority to demand answers to your questions, I really think you need to stop watching so many cop shows, OK?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:55:41pm |
re: #53 Charles
If someone can interpret Andrew Breitbart’s latest tweet to me, I’d be much obliged.
Not qualified—even sane tweets don’t make a lot of sense to me.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:56:27pm |
re: #45 jamesfirecat
Even more crazy?
I could see some sort of quasi evangelical political gig for him…complete with huge audiences and phone banks etc
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:56:32pm |
re: #53 Charles
If someone can interpret Andrew Breitbart’s latest tweet to me, I’d be much obliged.
cRAZY FUCKTARD.
Does that answer the question?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:56:57pm |
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:57:02pm |
re: #55 webevintage
Someone has to do it since the MSM refuses to call them on their bullshit…
Boobs are nice.
See that? It’s not really so hard to find common ground every once in a while and boobs have a way of bring us all together.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:57:41pm |
re: #42 Linden Arden
A Mormon mythology.
Beck does that - weave Mormonism (of a sort) in with the Bircherism. Glenn Beck is very much trying to live up to his “mentor”, Skousen.
It’s all part of the Tabloid Television of Rupert Murdoch - sell to as many niches in the viewing audience as possible, that haven’t been already tapped out. That’s how Murdoch made so much money - realizing he could replace (expensive) journalism with cheaper tabloid trash. Not just with Fox News, but with many of his other enterprises too.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:57:55pm |
re: #52 blueraven
No more dubious than Fox as a legitimate news organization.
OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:58:05pm |
re: #53 Charles
He’s prepping to be creepy stalker some day soon.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:58:45pm |
re: #54 jamesfirecat
Solid gold?
I disbelieve.
If it was “solid gold” then a Dawrven battle axe would have gone through it like hot knife through butter!
(I pick weird things to get hung up on don’t I?)
It was gold, but the power that Sauron poured into it when he forged the One Ring meant that no weapon could damage it. Of course the irony, explained by Tolkien in one of his letters, is that by forging the Ring Sauron had created a way to destroy him. But he had to put much of his power into the One, for the Elven Rings were very powerful in their own right and his Ring was intended to control them.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:58:47pm |
re: #53 Charles
If someone can interpret Andrew Breitbart’s latest tweet to me, I’d be much obliged.
I’d like to invite @MMFA + Aryan @lizardoid to my MCing CORE MLK Jr Dinner! bit.ly Be our guest, be our guest, be our guest!
I’ll take a shot at it…
“I’d like to Invite Media Matters Foundation and the Ayran who has a Lizard email account to my being Master of Ceremonies at the Matrin Luther King Jr. Dinner. Be our guest, be our guest, be our guest!”
That’s all I can make of it….
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:59:33pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:59:34pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:00:01pm |
re: #64 jaunte
He’s prepping to be creepy stalker some day soon.
I think he’s just incredibly insecure…a small bruise would be a huge victory for him, with regard to sparring with Charles
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:00:01pm |
re: #63 brookly red
OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.
What does paying taxes have to do with anything?
The News papers that say that Elvis was abducted by Bigfoot may pay taxes but that doesn’t make them legitimate sources of news….
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:00:11pm |
re: #63 brookly red
OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.
Heh. Yeah, but ya know there’s a contingent claiming, “It’s still not enough!”
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blueraven Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:00pm |
re: #63 brookly red
OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.
Yes, they are a “for profit” TV entertainment. I hope they pay taxes.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:08pm |
re: #66 jamesfirecat
I’d like to invite @MMFA + Aryan @lizardoid to my MCing CORE MLK Jr Dinner! [Link: bit.ly…] Be our guest, be our guest, be our guest!
Shorter:
I”m NoT A RACisT ARGGGhhhhHHHHHHH!!!11111!!!!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:28pm |
re: #70 jamesfirecat
What does paying taxes have to do with anything?
The News papers that say that Elvis was abducted by Bigfoot may pay taxes but that doesn’t make them legitimate sources of news…
why wouldn’t it, if the story were true?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:29pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:38pm |
re: #63 brookly red
OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.
So do some whorehouses in Nevada.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:46pm |
re: #70 jamesfirecat
What does paying taxes have to do with anything?
The News papers that say that Elvis was abducted by Bigfoot may pay taxes but that doesn’t make them legitimate sources of news…
well it has to do with 501 status… comparing Fox (no matter how you feel about them) a business that pays taxes with MM, a tax free entity is kinda apples & oranges, no?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:02:56pm |
re: #66 jamesfirecat
I’d like to invite @MMFA + Aryan @lizardoid to my MCing CORE MLK Jr Dinner! [Link: bit.ly…] Be our guest, be our guest, be our guest!
I’ll take a shot at it…
“I’d like to Invite Media Matters Foundation and the Ayran who has a Lizard email account to my being Master of Ceremonies at the Matrin Luther King Jr. Dinner. Be our guest, be our guest, be our guest!”
That’s all I can make of it…
CORE = Congress On Racial Equality
“Be our guest” of course comes from the Disney version of “Beauty and the Beast”. Of course the lesson of that movie on prejudice is entirely lost on Andrew Breitbart, who plays to prejudice to gain money and influence.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:03:27pm |
re: #66 jamesfirecat
CORE appears to have transitioned into a front group for the fossil fuel industry:
Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) was originally a leading civil rights organisation that has more recently aligned with conservative think tanks and anti-environmental campaigns (e.g. see Roy Innis).
…
According to the Village Voice, with regard to fundraising, “Ethical or moral questions at CORE have been raised as far back as 1976, when the state received complaints that CORE was browbeating companies into donations. In 1981, the state accused CORE of illegal fundraising practices, questioning the way the group represented itself. Under a settlement agreement, Innis, CORE’s chairman, admitted no wrongdoing, but had to pay $35,000 to CORE out of his own funds. Innis charged racism.” [1]
ExxonMobil has given CORE $275,000 from 2003 to 2006, including $15,000 for “Climate Change Outreach Efforts” in 2003, $75,000 for “Climate Change Regulation/Legislation” and $60,000 for “Global Climate Change Issues” in 2004, and $75,000 for “Global Climate change Environmental Outreach” in 2005. [18]
“At a 2004 ExxonMobil shareholders’ meeting, [Paul] Driessen referred to CORE as ‘one of America’s oldest and most respected civil rights organizations’ and called for greater funding for the group,” according to Chris Mooney.[19]
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:04:21pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:04:31pm |
re: #75 Charles
Yeah, I’m familiar with Roy Innis. Is it supposed to be news that his organization would support what Breitbrat does?
I poked around their website a bit. Kind of an interesting look into the very few black libertarians (Alan Keyes, etc). Pretty nutty stuff.
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:04:59pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:05:26pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:05:27pm |
re: #76 Decatur Deb
So do some whorehouses in Nevada.
/when they try to institute the BJ tax there will be fighting in the streets…
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:05:55pm |
re: #77 brookly red
well it has to do with 501 status… comparing Fox (no matter how you feel about them) a business that pays taxes with MM, a tax free entity is kinda apples & oranges, no?
I was only objecting to the idea that you responded to
” No more dubious than Fox as a legitimate news organization.”
With
“OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.”
As if Fox paying taxes proves they are a “legitimate news organization”… or did I not understand the meaning of your words?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:06:11pm |
re: #79 freetoken
CORE appears to have transitioned into a front group for the fossil fuel industry:
Yeah, it seems they’re a group for hire who will support anything they are paid for. I guess that explains the racial diversity of the Tea Parties.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:06:32pm |
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:08:32pm |
re: #87 Decatur Deb
Dunno, but they had a union called “Coyote”.
That’s a California based organization-not exactly a union.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:08:33pm |
Charles, looks like you’ve been asked on a date by Andrew.
He’s kinda attractive in a scruffy “I’m crazy so don’t get too close” older dude way….
I’d go, just keep a safe distance.
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sod Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:08:35pm |
I like Media Matters’ little jingle thing at the end. Kinda spooky.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:09:14pm |
re: #88 calochortus
That’s a California based organization-not exactly a union.
I think of the AMA and ABA as unions.
Coyote:
prostitution.procon.org
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:10:24pm |
re: #85 jamesfirecat
I was only objecting to the idea that you responded to
” No more dubious than Fox as a legitimate news organization.”
With
“OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.”
As if Fox paying taxes proves they are a “legitimate news organization”… or did I not understand the meaning of your words?
they are a legitimate bussiness, they have sponsors & pay taxes, if you agree with them or not… MM is just as partisan and claims to be a charity… kinda hard to justify IMO.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:10:32pm |
re: #86 Killgore Trout
Yeah, it seems they’re a group for hire who will support anything they are paid for. I guess that explains the racial diversity of the Tea Parties.
well that has some nasty implications, and it would take some primo pretzel logic to explain their influence pedaling
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:11:38pm |
re: #49 Floral Giraffe
You really can do better, if you try!
If you’re talking to me, you’re right. I have told you before, I am always holding back. My aim is not to battle trolls, it’s to see what reaction I get. It’s research.
Have you noticed that BR can’t answer the question about what he found so objectionable about the video Charles posted.
Maybe BR could explain why he downdinged my first comment. Was it a gesture of defiance because Charles dinged it up?
BTW, I was going to make this an email but decided to share it with the room.
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:11:52pm |
re: #91 Decatur Deb
I didn’t express myself as clearly as I might have. While they certainly would support rights for legal prostitutes in Nevada, their primary focus at least used to be the decriminalization of sex-work. So sort of a union, but not particularly Nevada-centric.
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blueraven Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:12:50pm |
re: #92 brookly red
they are a legitimate bussiness, they have sponsors & pay taxes, if you agree with them or not… MM is just as partisan and claims to be a charity… kinda hard to justify IMO.
Good grief brookly, MM doesn’t claim to be a charity.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:13:06pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:13:33pm |
re: #92 brookly red
they are a legitimate bussiness, they have sponsors & pay taxes, if you agree with them or not… MM is just as partisan and claims to be a charity… kinda hard to justify IMO.
True, but it’s still within the letter of the law. True, MediaMatters only goes after conservatives (which is why any reporting or editorializing the site does isn’t worth crap), but they do not actually endorse a party or candidate. So its sometimes sleezy, but its legal. But MM didn’t do anything wrong here, all they did was post a clip.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:13:44pm |
re: #92 brookly red
they are a legitimate bussiness, they have sponsors & pay taxes, if you agree with them or not… MM is just as partisan and claims to be a charity… kinda hard to justify IMO.
I thought they claimed to be a non profit organization which is not the same thing as a charity. (To my mind I might be mistaken)
I will agree with you that Fox is a legitimate business. they doubtlessly know how to make money.
If they are legitimate “news organization” however is a bit harder to say…
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:14:09pm |
re: #94 Reginald Perrin
If you’re talking to me, you’re right. I have told you before, I am always holding back. My aim is not to battle trolls, it’s to see what reaction I get. It’s research.
Have you noticed that BR can’t answer the question about what he found so objectionable about the video Charles posted.Maybe BR could explain why he downdinged my first comment. Was it a gesture of defiance because Charles dinged it up?
BTW, I was going to make this an email but decided to share it with the room.
no it was because I repaid your favor… and can you please have a thought with out mentioning Charles?
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:14:12pm |
re: #95 calochortus
I didn’t express myself as clearly as I might have. While they certainly would support rights for legal prostitutes in Nevada, their primary focus at least used to be the decriminalization of sex-work. So sort of a union, but not particularly Nevada-centric.
Perhaps a guild…. of seamstresses?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:14:31pm |
re: #95 calochortus
I didn’t express myself as clearly as I might have. While they certainly would support rights for legal prostitutes in Nevada, their primary focus at least used to be the decriminalization of sex-work. So sort of a union, but not particularly Nevada-centric.
more like an advocacy group….unless they collect dues from members and set price structures….but that might violate anti trust laws…hahaha!
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:14:46pm |
re: #94 Reginald Perrin
You are an awesome fighter.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:14:50pm |
re: #95 calochortus
I didn’t express myself as clearly as I might have. While they certainly would support rights for legal prostitutes in Nevada, their primary focus at least used to be the decriminalization of sex-work. So sort of a union, but not particularly Nevada-centric.
Back in the day, their cause was nation-wide. For the dig at BR, I had to pick a state where I was sure taxes were paid.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:15:05pm |
re: #53 Charles
If someone can interpret Andrew Breitbart’s latest tweet to me, I’d be much obliged.
I am afraid any help I could offer would be akin to pouring gasoline on a bonfire. I am going to take the fifth on this one and remain silent.
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:15:42pm |
re: #91 Decatur Deb
I think of the AMA and ABA as unions.
Coyote:
[Link: prostitution.procon.org…]
“COYOTE was founded in 1973…”
Hopefully there’s been some attrition in that “workforce.”
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:16:24pm |
re: #107 rwmofo
“COYOTE was founded in 1973…”
Hopefully there’s been some attrition in that “workforce.”
You got a problem with seniority, Bub?
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:16:28pm |
re: #93 albusteve
well that has some nasty implications, and it would take some primo pretzel logic to explain their influence pedaling
It is my understanding that if you sleep in a pretzel formation, you will be straight the next day.
Get back to us on this, OK?
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:16:58pm |
re: #89 webevintage
Charles, looks like you’ve been asked on a date by Andrew.
He’s kinda attractive in a scruffy “I’m crazy so don’t get too close” older dude way…
I’d go, just keep a safe distance.
Ha!
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:17:42pm |
re: #105 Decatur Deb
Back in the day, their cause was nation-wide. For the dig at BR, I had to pick a state where I was sure taxes were paid.
And that would be Nevada :) Since they also work to remove the stigma involved, that works.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:17:55pm |
re: #101 brookly red
Why, It is Charle’s blog.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:18:12pm |
Charles is PWNing Breitbart something awful. it’s going to be fun watching Breitbart fans whip themselves into a frenzy.
[waves to the Stalkers]
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:18:44pm |
re: #109 Floral Giraffe
It is my understanding that if you sleep in a pretzel formation, you will be straight the next day.
Get back to us on this, OK?
you need all your body parts for that…but I’m curious now
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:18:48pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:19:49pm |
re: #113 Dark_Falcon
Charles is PWNing Breitbart something awful. it’s going to be fun watching Breitbart fans whip themselves into a frenzy.
[waves to the Stalkers]
are you tweeting?
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:21:02pm |
re: #108 Decatur Deb
You got a problem with seniority, Bub?
Heh. Are you wearing an IBEW baseball cap?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:22:06pm |
re: #116 albusteve
are you tweeting?
No, but I don’t need to. When Charles is letting a wingnut blockhead like Breitbart have it, the Stalkers are sure to be stalking. Charles lives in their heads.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:22:18pm |
re: #92 brookly red
they are a legitimate bussiness, they have sponsors & pay taxes, if you agree with them or not… MM is just as partisan and claims to be a charity… kinda hard to justify IMO.
IRS Rules Allow Nonpartisan Voter Education and Participation Activity by Charities
This checklist summarizes IRS rules for 501(c)(3) organizations for conducting candidate debates, sending out candidate questionnaires and voter guides, briefing candidates on your issues and activities, registering voters and helping them get to the polls.
Efforts to educate voters and encourage participation in elections are necessary to make our democracy work. All of these activities are completely legal, as long as your 501(c)(3) avoids any appearance of support or opposition to a candidate.
Your organization’s 501(c)(3) election-related activities must be nonpartisan. This means it cannot support or oppose candidates, even indirectly. Violation of this rule can result in loss of tax-exempt status, as well as financial liability for directors and managers. Nonpartisan, however, does not mean organizations cannot take positions on issues, or engage in voter education activity, especially in the following four areas:
* Candidate Debates and Forums
* Voter Guides and Candidate Questionnaires
* Candidate Briefings
* Get Out the Vote and Voter Registration Drives
[…]
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:23:00pm |
re: #117 rwmofo
Heh. Are you wearing an IBEW baseball cap?
I still carry an IUE card from the largest local in the East. Worked my way through school on a GE line.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:23:22pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
No, but I don’t need to. When Charles is letting a wingnut blockhead like Breitbart have it, the Stalkers are sure to be stalking. Charles lives in their heads.
Sounds like they live in your head?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:23:30pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
No, but I don’t need to. When Charles is letting a wingnut blockhead like Breitbart have it, the Stalkers are sure to be stalking. Charles lives in their heads.
typically I wouldn’t care, but Andy is a relentless chump and even I’d like to follow it
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:24:26pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:24:50pm |
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BryanS Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:25:35pm |
I don’t trust scientists either—but I do trust science. The whole point of experimental science is to perform studies that are reproducible and peer reviewed to weed out bad scientists.
The media however are science retarded. They publish results of individual studies as if that is any kind of conclusion in and of itself, with no context on what other body of evidence supports the same findings of said study. This allows people like Beck to report science as if it is a debate among ideologies.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:26:03pm |
re: #124 Walter L. Newton
IMO… really.
my head is a small bunkhouse…just room enough for me and the laundry girls
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blueraven Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:26:18pm |
re: #122 albusteve
typically I wouldn’t care, but Andy is a relentless chump and even I’d like to follow it
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recusancy Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:27:14pm |
re: #63 brookly red
OK, you have every right to criticize them… but they do pay taxes.
The Chamber of Commerce is a 501(c).
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:27:39pm |
I don’t know. Might want to find another time to harp on Media Matters. They are open to criticism but you really should consider that it is the source of the topic of this thread. If you’re going to argue that MM is partisan you have to remind yourself that Fox News claims to be non-partisan as does Glenn Beck which itself is rather laughable.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:27:42pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:28:04pm |
re: #104 Floral Giraffe
You are an awesome fighter.
I’m`not fighting anyone… what I am trying to do is to point out how certain individuals always seem to derail threads by using diversionary tactic.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:28:35pm |
re: #128 recusancy
The Chamber of Commerce is a 501(c).
501(c)(1) — Corporations Organized Under Act of Congress (including Federal Credit Unions)
501(c)(2) — Title Holding Corporation for Exempt Organization
501(c)(3) — Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations
501(c)(4) — Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees
501(c)(5) — Labor, Agricultural, and Horticultural Organizations
501(c)(6) — Business Leagues, Chambers of Commerce, Real Estate Boards, etc.
501(c)(7) — Social and Recreational Clubs
501(c)(8) — Fraternal Beneficiary Societies and Associations
501(c)(9) — Voluntary Employees Beneficiary Associations
501(c)(10) — Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations
501(c)(11) — Teachers’ Retirement Fund Associations
501(c)(12) — Benevolent Life Insurance Associations, Mutual Ditch or Irrigation Companies, Mutual or Cooperative Telephone Companies, etc.
501(c)(13) — Cemetery Companies
501(c)(14) — State-Chartered Credit Unions, Mutual Reserve Funds
501(c)(15) — Mutual Insurance Companies or Associations
501(c)(16) — Cooperative Organizations to Finance Crop Operations
501(c)(17) — Supplemental Unemployment Benefit Trusts
501(c)(18) — Employee Funded Pension Trust (created before June 25, 1959)
501(c)(19) — Post or Organization of Past or Present Members of the Armed Forces
501(c)(21) — Black lung Benefit Trusts
501(c)(22) — Withdrawal Liability Payment Fund
501(c)(23) — Veterans Organization (created before 1880)
501(c)(25) — Title Holding Corporations or Trusts with Multiple Parents
501(c)(26) — State-Sponsored Organization Providing Health Coverage for High-Risk Individuals
501(c)(27) — State-Sponsored Workers’ Compensation Reinsurance Organization
501(c)(28) — National Railroad Retirement Investment Trust
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:28:55pm |
re: #120 Decatur Deb
I still carry an IUE card from the largest local in the East. Worked my way through school on a GE line.
I was a dues paying member for a while 30 years ago. Got a first-hand look at the pros and cons.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:29:10pm |
re: #126 albusteve
my head is a small bunkhouse…just room enough for me and the laundry girls
Lucky you—all I’ve got is this choir of dead nuns.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:29:18pm |
re: #132 Walter L. Newton
WTF is that all about?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:29:27pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:30:31pm |
re: #136 Floral Giraffe
WTF is that all about?
It’s a list of all the different 501(c) categories. Wasn’t that evident?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:30:46pm |
re: #135 Charles
Got him really wound up now.
Yeah, he’s in froth mode. He can’t handle being called out and retreats to lies and insults.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:31:01pm |
re: #133 rwmofo
I was a dues paying member for a while 30 years ago. Got a first-hand look at the pros and cons.
The only thing worse than a unionized line is an un-unionized line.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:31:26pm |
re: #137 Dark_Falcon
I disagree, but I’ll avoid them for a time just to be sure.
Do they talk about me over there… where… there… where is there… How many are there… I get the impression there is more than one… or am I mistaken… anyway, do they talk about me much?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:31:32pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:31:58pm |
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bratwurst Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:33:04pm |
re: #141 Walter L. Newton
anyway, do they talk about me much?
Nobody could come close to talking about you as much as you talk about yourself. :)
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:33:35pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:33:48pm |
re: #144 bratwurst
Nobody could come close to talking about you as much as you talk about yourself. :)
I suspect you’re right. Too bad you can’t stop me.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:34:14pm |
re: #141 Walter L. Newton
Do they talk about me over there… where… there… where is there… How many are there… I get the impression there is more than one… or am I mistaken… anyway, do they talk about me much?
Not often. Mostly when they see you “deviating from the party line”. Their meme is that you’ll eventually get banned. They don’t really fixate on you.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:34:32pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:35:07pm |
re: #136 Floral Giraffe
WTF is that all about?
Maybe he is feeling left out and it`s about getting some attention.
YGM
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:35:11pm |
re: #146 Walter L. Newton
I suspect you’re right. Too bad you can’t stop me.
shut your donut hole….
GLAZE!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:36:12pm |
re: #149 Reginald Perrin
No. He was inserting useful classifications into the 501(c) discussion.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:36:22pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
Does anyone ever look at the Media Matters web-site? Geez. They’re more obsessed with Fox News than I am with boobs.
Wow, I didn’t know this was open mic night
Are you going to tell us the one about the dude?
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:36:33pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:37:00pm |
re: #147 Dark_Falcon
Not often. Mostly when they see you “deviating from the party line”. Their meme is that you’ll eventually get banned. They don’t really fixate on you.
That’s odd… I didn’t realize I was ever really “in line” with much of anything… is there some sort of betting line on the banning… maybe I can arrange something with Charles and make a few dollars off of them.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:37:17pm |
WTF is this Bircher shill going on about? I haven’t seen, heard or read anything about the gov’t using invisible, Wonder Woman spy planes to kill those birds.
What I did see on the news, was that some scientists autopsied a large number of those birds and found internal injuries indicating blunt force trauma consistent with a flock of birds unfortunately getting caught in hail storm clouds.
And of course, he has to bring in the whole “AGW is a hoax, the world’s scientists are lying” garbage.
Gawt-damn, what an idiot.
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recusancy Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:37:49pm |
re: #151 Decatur Deb
No. He was inserting useful classifications into the 501(c) discussion.
The original point being, I don’t think anyone believes the CoC is non partisan yet it’s a tax exempt 501(c).
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:38:06pm |
re: #152 WindUpBird
Wow, I didn’t know this was open mic night
Are you going to tell us the one about the dude?
The Dude abides.
And that’s all there is to it.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:38:14pm |
re: #155 Slumbering Behemoth
WTF is this Bircher shill going on about? I haven’t seen, heard or read anything about the gov’t using invisible, Wonder Woman spy planes to kill those birds.
What I did see on the news, was that some scientists autopsied a large number of those birds and found internal injuries indicating blunt force trauma consistent with a flock of birds unfortunately getting caught in hail storm clouds.
And of course, he has to bring in the whole “AGW is a hoax, the world’s scientists are lying” garbage.
Gawt-damn, what an idiot.
Bill O’Reilly thinks tides are a mystery.
Fucking magnets.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:38:17pm |
the bets thing about reading tweets from angry political hacks is they sound like internet baby talk
WHERE WR U WHEN
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:38:29pm |
re: #154 Walter L. Newton
That’s odd… I didn’t realize I was ever really “in line” with much of anything… is there some sort of betting line on the banning… maybe I can arrange something with Charles and make a few dollars off of them.
They have an “LGF Dead Pool” but its mostly just them being assholes.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:39:10pm |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
They have an “LGF Dead Pool” but its mostly just them being assholes.
Well… next time you’re over there… tell them “hi” for me.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:39:20pm |
re: #153 Varek Raith
Shut your pie hole…
APPLE!
/
hold the tip of your tongue and say “you are an apple, mom”
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Fear the Blah People Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:40:21pm |
re: #28 Reginald Perrin
It was a diversionary tactic… and very lame. Come on BR, you have got to up your game some, this is LGF.
Oh RP, could I upding this more.
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avanti Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:40:59pm |
re: #154 Walter L. Newton
That’s odd… I didn’t realize I was ever really “in line” with much of anything… is there some sort of betting line on the banning… maybe I can arrange something with Charles and make a few dollars off of them.
Yep, just the other day they suggested I was on a short rope for disagreeing with Charles.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:41:10pm |
re: #127 blueraven
[Link: twitter.com…]
“You’re part of artificial PC Democrat matrix”
See, I knew The matrix was real.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:41:45pm |
re: #165 avanti
Yep, just the other day they suggested I was on a short rope for disagreeing with Charles.
You disagreed with Charles? Please… stay away from my comments… ok… you’re toxic :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:42:48pm |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
They have an “LGF Dead Pool” but its mostly just them being assholes.
It’s sorta like we have our own private beardo TMZ, they’re only interested in this place as gossip fodder
OH MY GOD LAURIE DID YOU HEAR WHAT DIANE DID? SHE WENT ALL ANTI-SEMITE RIGHT THERE ON THE BLAWWWG
WHO LET JOEY PICK OUT THAT AVATAR, IT CLASHES WITH THE GREEN
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:01pm |
re: #155 Slumbering Behemoth
WTF is this Bircher shill going on about? I haven’t seen, heard or read anything about the gov’t using invisible, Wonder Woman spy planes to kill those birds.
What I did see on the news, was that some scientists autopsied a large number of those birds and found internal injuries indicating blunt force trauma consistent with a flock of birds unfortunately getting caught in hail storm clouds.
And of course, he has to bring in the whole “AGW is a hoax, the world’s scientists are lying” garbage.
Gawt-damn, what an idiot.
I’m trying to figure out what he’s trying to prove. It’s not like he’s going to change anyone’s mind at this point being that “he’s preaching to the choir”. All he’s doing is increasing the fear and outrage of his viewers everytime they hear him speak. Even if one weren’t a fan you can also see that he’s old and stale as he repeats the same talking points day in, and day out.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:04pm |
re: #158 Varek Raith
Bill O’Reilly thinks tides are a mystery.
Fucking magnets.
Dead Birds=Cloaked Warships
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:10pm |
re: #166 webevintage
“You’re part of artificial PC Democrat matrix”
See, I knew The matrix was real.
Read that as “aritifical PC Dominatrix”. Got to see an opthamologist or an exorcist.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:41pm |
re: #166 webevintage
“You’re part of artificial PC Democrat matrix”
See, I knew The matrix was real.
FOR MAKE BENEFIT OF MATRIX STYLE INTERGOOGLES, YES?
God I love twitter because it makes for such tortured grammar
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:46pm |
re: #161 Walter L. Newton
Well… next time you’re over there… tell them “hi” for me.
I don’t post over there, and I’m going to avoid it for the next few days. You’re right, I get too into the whole ‘blog war’ thing.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:49pm |
re: #149 Reginald Perrin
Maybe he is feeling left out and it`s about getting some attention.
Nada esta aqui, Senor.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:44:05pm |
re: #171 Decatur Deb
Read that as “aritifical PC Dominatrix”. Got to see an opthamologist or an exorcist.
they have those on Second Life, it’s a whole thing
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:44:35pm |
re: #168 WindUpBird
It’s sorta like we have our own private beardo TMZ, they’re only interested in this place as gossip fodder
OH MY GOD LAURIE DID YOU HEAR WHAT DIANE DID? SHE WENT ALL ANTI-SEMITE RIGHT THERE ON THE BLAWWWG
WHO LET JOEY PICK OUT THAT AVATAR, IT CLASHES WITH THE GREEN
LOL, loves it!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:45:36pm |
re: #176 Gus 802
Ugh. I’ve been trying really hard to stop thinking about “them”.
Them! is a 1954 American black and white science fiction film about man’s encounter with a nest of gigantic irradiated ants. It is based on an original story treatment by George Worthing Yates. It was developed into a screenplay by Ted Sherdeman and Russell Hughes for Warner Bros. Pictures Inc., and was produced by David Weisbart and directed by Gordon Douglas. It starred James Whitmore, Edmund Gwenn, Joan Weldon and James Arness.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:45:49pm |
re: #158 Varek Raith
Bill O’Reilly thinks tides are a mystery.
Fucking magnets.
I saw that clip the other day. WTF?
“The tide comes in, the tide goes out, and you can’t explain that”.
Um, yes actually, you can. It was explained a long time ago.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:46:05pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:46:13pm |
re: #169 Gus 802
I’m trying to figure out what he’s trying to prove. It’s not like he’s going to change anyone’s mind at this point being that “he’s preaching to the choir”. All he’s doing is increasing the fear and outrage of his viewers everytime they hear him speak. Even if one weren’t a fan you can also see that he’s old and stale as he repeats the same talking points day in, and day out.
he’s enlarging his inner power….Glen is setting himself up for his next gig, something beyond mere mortal infoblab…what that is, I suspect we’ll find out in the near future…he’s young and wealthy, and far from healthy (Humble Pie)
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:46:36pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:46:55pm |
re: #173 Dark_Falcon
I don’t post over there, and I’m going to avoid it for the next few days. You’re right, I get too into the whole ‘blog war’ thing.
It’s okay, I used to be into it! But then, it was my blog :D This was in the early 2000s. When you guys were on LGF post 9/11, I had my own stupid little blog full of wacky nerd flamewars, that occasionally veered into politics, but they mostly were tiny little nerd skirmishes.
Those days are behind me, because I like making art more than trolling people on other blogs
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:47:31pm |
and now Rick Addams joins in the fun:
croyen Rick Addams
@AndrewBreitbart Actually you are your worst enemy. You lack the ability to tell the truth. Your very existence (cont) tl.gd
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:48:10pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:48:59pm |
re: #144 bratwurst
Nobody could come close to talking about you as much as you talk about yourself. :)
Touché
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:49:19pm |
re: #185 Decatur Deb
One of the 5 or 6 “greats”.
I would agree. Even though the device, giant ants, sounds cheezy, there is actually a good suspenseful build up tot he ants, and there is actually decent dialog and plot points. By the time you get to the ants, there has been enough establishment to accept the premise.
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:50:07pm |
Here is some more from those scientists.
online.wsj.com
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:50:32pm |
re: #189 Walter L. Newton
I would agree. Even though the device, giant ants, sounds cheezy, there is actually a good suspenseful build up tot he ants, and there is actually decent dialog and plot points. By the time you get to the ants, there has been enough establishment to accept the premise.
Best shot: Big ant tidies up the hill, dropping a ribcage from it’s mandibles.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:50:51pm |
re: #188 Reginald Perrin
Touché
Are you on a dial up, or does it take you that long to compose a one word retort? It’s like a fucking cricket game.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:50:57pm |
re: #184 WindUpBird
It’s okay, I used to be into it! But then, it was my blog :D This was in the early 2000s. When you guys were on LGF post 9/11, I had my own stupid little blog full of wacky nerd flamewars, that occasionally veered into politics, but they mostly were tiny little nerd skirmishes.
Those days are behind me, because I like making art more than trolling people on other blogs
Yeah, that’s why I’m going to step back from it. I’ve got something I want to write, so I’m going to focus on that. But I’ll still be here, since I’m just writing up a game scenario.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:51:35pm |
re: #151 Decatur Deb
No. He was inserting useful classifications into the 501(c) discussion.
Floral was referring to his insult of Dark Falcon. I agree with Floral, that was a low blow.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:51:48pm |
When Man entered the atomic age, he opened a door into a new world. What we’ll eventually find in that new world, nobody can predict. — Dr. Harold Medford:
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:52:13pm |
re: #194 Reginald Perrin
Floral was referring to his insult of Dark Falcon. I agree with Floral, that was a low blow.
Ah. Lost in the thread.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:52:45pm |
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jaunte Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:52:46pm |
re: #190 PhillyPretzel
Here is some more from those scientists.
[Link: online.wsj.com…]
Next: Horde of mutant microbes emerge from Gulf, eating cars, refineries in insatiable search for hydrocarbons.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:52:50pm |
re: #173 Dark_Falcon
I don’t post over there, and I’m going to avoid it for the next few days. You’re right, I get too into the whole ‘blog war’ thing.
Sounds like a good idea Dark if you have one noticeable major fault it is that sometimes you think in terms of tribe rather than in terms of facts….
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:54:16pm |
re: #192 Walter L. Newton
That was a wicked googley!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:54:19pm |
re: #194 Reginald Perrin
Floral was referring to his insult of Dark Falcon. I agree with Floral, that was a low blow.
It didn’t really bother me. Walter had a point: I do focus on the Stalkers too much sometimes. So I officially dismiss the charge of “low blow” in favor of a characterization of “harsh but within proper boundaries”.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:54:56pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
When Man entered the atomic age, he opened a door into a new world. What we’ll eventually find in that new world, nobody can predict. — Dr. Harold Medford:
Yet now we know. There’s a creationist blocking the doorway claiming “That way lies Satan worship”.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:55:07pm |
re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was a wicked googley!
Big upding if that was from “Hope and Glory”.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:55:11pm |
re: #198 jaunte
Next: Horde of mutant microbes emerge from Gulf, eating cars, refineries in insatiable search for hydrocarbons.
You can tell them apart from the good microbes because they smoke cigarettes.
//
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:55:23pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
When Man entered the atomic age, he opened a door into a new world. What we’ll eventually find in that new world, nobody can predict. — Dr. Harold Medford:
I’ve got to watch that movie again. I must have seen it 30 or more times in my life, always loved it. I first saw it on NYC local channel in the early 60’s, a nightly movie show called “Million Dollar Movie” which would play the same movie at the same time 5 nights in a row… and then a different movie the next week… and so on.
When there was a movie on that I liked, I would watch it over and over all week long.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:56:02pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
It didn’t really bother me. Walter had a point: I do focus on the Stalkers too much sometimes. So I officially dismiss the charge of “low blow” in favor of a characterization of “harsh but within proper boundaries”.
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to fucking awesome powers!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:56:54pm |
re: #207 Varek Raith
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to fucking awesome powers!
Did you read that on a box of cereal?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:57:01pm |
The Office UK - Tim and Dawn wind up Gareth
Youtube Video
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:57:20pm |
re: #205 Walter L. Newton
I’ve got to watch that movie again. I must have seen it 30 or more times in my life, always loved it. I first saw it on NYC local channel in the early 60’s, a nightly movie show called “Million Dollar Movie” which would play the same movie at the same time 5 nights in a row… and then a different movie the next week… and so on.
When there was a movie on that I liked, I would watch it over and over all week long.
We had it as our Friday night movie at the boarding (reform) school. If you screwed up during the week, the nuns made you sit facing backwards during the flick.
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:57:35pm |
Hooray!! New Masterpiece Theater, “Downtown Abbey”:thedailybeast.com
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:57:59pm |
re: #204 Gus 802
You can tell them apart from the good microbes because they smoke cigarettes.
//
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:58:21pm |
re: #205 Walter L. Newton
I’ve got to watch that movie again. I must have seen it 30 or more times in my life, always loved it. I first saw it on NYC local channel in the early 60’s, a nightly movie show called “Million Dollar Movie” which would play the same movie at the same time 5 nights in a row… and then a different movie the next week… and so on.
When there was a movie on that I liked, I would watch it over and over all week long.
I watched it the last time I mentioned “them” at LGF. Must have been about a year and half ago. It was on Google videos. Dr. Harold Medford was almost your typical Hollywood scientist although a “good scientist.” A little eccentric and with a generic accent.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:58:58pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
It didn’t really bother me. Walter had a point: I do focus on the Stalkers too much sometimes. So I officially dismiss the charge of “low blow” in favor of a characterization of “harsh but within proper boundaries”.
I’ve spanked you good for that stalker shit, but it didn’t interfere with out buddyship….some people are just nosey and looking for trouble….then they trip over themselves….regardless of your personal habits, I would never hold that against you…it wasn’t a low blow, just Walter being Walter
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:59:10pm |
Charles please remove my comment #190. No one seems to understand it.
Thank you.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:59:33pm |
re: #207 Varek Raith
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to fucking awesome powers!
Varek to Andrew Breitbart: I find your lack on candor… upsetting.
[Varek then uses the Dark Side to delete all of Breitbart’s Twitter followers.]
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:59:33pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:59:41pm |
re: #210 Decatur Deb
We had it as our Friday night movie at the boarding (reform) school. If you screwed up during the week, the nuns made you sit facing backwards during the flick.
If that help in not having to look at the nuns… it was probably worth it. I didn’t do reform school, but I did do 12 whole years of Catholic school… old fashioned Catholic school… corporal punishment and all the perks.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:59:48pm |
re: #182 albusteve
he’s enlarging his inner power…Glen is setting himself up for his next gig, something beyond mere mortal infoblab…what that is, I suspect we’ll find out in the near future…he’s young and wealthy, and far from healthy (Humble Pie)
Upding for the Humble Pie ref. My favorite band of that era, bar none.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:00:00pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:01:42pm |
re: #207 Varek Raith
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to fucking awesome powers!
And the most pathetic minions ever conceived. Saw one of your flunkies in my star system recently, BTW?
I was gonna send his corpse back to you as a warning, but I eated it.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:02:07pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:02:11pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
It didn’t really bother me. Walter had a point: I do focus on the Stalkers too much sometimes. So I officially dismiss the charge of “low blow” in favor of a characterization of “harsh but within proper boundaries”.
You were one of my first friends at LGF and I have covered your back both on and off this blog. DF, maybe it`s time for you to stand up for yourself and be less passive.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:02:33pm |
re: #213 Gus 802
I watched it the last time I mentioned “them” at LGF. Must have been about a year and half ago. It was on Google videos. Dr. Harold Medford was almost your typical Hollywood scientist although a “good scientist.” A little eccentric and with a generic accent.
I just put it into my Instant Queue at Netflix… can watch it on the TV over the network… I’ll save it for this weekend.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:02:47pm |
Sorry but I have to post Charles next to latest reply to Breitbart, because it captures the essence of Breitbart’s tweets perfectly:
Lizardoid Charles Johnson
@andrewbreitbart Illogical, crazed attacks and personal insults that bear no relationship to reality. Seen it many times.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:02:48pm |
re: #220 makeitstop
Upding for the Humble Pie ref. My favorite band of that era, bar none.
woohoo!..another one pops up….I post their stuff once in a great while but nobody cares
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:03:09pm |
re: #210 Decatur Deb
We had it as our Friday night movie at the boarding (reform) school. If you screwed up during the week, the nuns made you sit facing backwards during the flick.
That’s my preference when I’m at my GF’s house since she usually wants to have the LMN channel on. (or as I call it, “The Funeral Channel”)
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:03:11pm |
re: #211 prairiefire
Hooray!! New Masterpiece Theater, “Downtown Abbey”:[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]
I’m looking forward to it.
I was just reading an article about the new Aurelio Zen mysteries they will be showing (Fall? On BBC now) later this year. I hope they are as good as the Wallender and Sherlock productions have been.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:03:28pm |
re: #224 Reginald Perrin
You were one of my first friends at LGF and I have covered your back both on and off this blog. DF, maybe it`s time for you to stand up for yourself and be less passive.
I would kind of like to upding that, but, friends support friends, Sir.
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avanti Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:03:49pm |
Interesting thread on Hot Air about the birther at the reading of the constitution in the house. They think it was a liberal plant, but every now and than, someone ID’s the crazy birther lady, but the liberal plant “plot” just thickens. They are not ones to be confused with facts.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:03:57pm |
re: #226 Dark_Falcon
Sorry but I have to post Charles next to latest reply to Breitbart, because it captures the essence of Breitbart’s tweets perfectly:
Lizardoid Charles Johnson
@andrewbreitbart Illogical, crazed attacks and personal insults that bear no relationship to reality. Seen it many times.
I’m sure he sees it every time that he looks at his teleprompter.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:04:29pm |
re: #224 Reginald Perrin
You were one of my first friends at LGF and I have covered your back both on and off this blog. DF, maybe it`s time for you to stand up for yourself and be less passive.
then maybe not….is your unsolicited advice expensive?
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:05:04pm |
re: #229 webevintage
If you are ever in KC, you can come over and watch British TV with me and me mum.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:07:18pm |
re: #232 jamesfirecat
I’m sure he sees it every time that he looks at his teleprompter.
Andy’s getting hammered…we should take up a collection for flowers
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:07:35pm |
What would a giant ant do? Would they prey on humans or learn how to play the piano? I think they would make a beeline for Kansas and eat a lot of corn.
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:07:37pm |
re: #231 avanti
Interesting thread on Hot Air about the birther at the reading of the constitution in the house. They think it was a liberal plant, but every now and than, someone ID’s the crazy birther lady, but the liberal plant “plot” just thickens. They are not ones to be confused with facts.
Everything happens because of liberal plants. When I catch the toe of my shoe on the sidewalk and end up doing that trip/jog maneuver that makes everyone look stupid, it’s because of insidious, liberal plants.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:07:49pm |
re: #227 albusteve
woohoo!..another one pops up…I post their stuff once in a great while but nobody cares
[Video]
I grew up in Philly, and that’s where the Small Faces played their first US show. Because they were so well received, Mariott made it a point to open every US tour in Philly. I saw them twice at the Spectrum in Philly, and I had literally never seen a band with such great rock star moves. They were no slouches musically, either.
Back when a lot of performers stood stock still on stage, Humble Pie became a very tough act to follow.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:08:30pm |
re: #236 Gus 802
What would a giant ant do? Would they prey on humans or learn how to play the piano? I think they would make a beeline for Kansas and eat a lot of corn.
//
They would grab huge magnifying glasses and burn us.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:08:34pm |
re: #236 Gus 802
What would a giant ant do? Would they prey on humans or learn how to play the piano? I think they would make a beeline for Kansas and eat a lot of corn.
//
Actually. I think an ant would probably make a better drummer.
//
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:09:01pm |
re: #234 prairiefire
If you are ever in KC, you can come over and watch British TV with me and me mum.
You got it.
Our DVD player is on its last leg and I told hubby the other day that when he buys a new one he has to get an all regions player. I’m tired of waiting for things to maybe (or never) show up on Netflix.
(I don’t think I’m asking much too much to have The Thick of It available in a Region 1 format.)
| 243 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:09:30pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:10:18pm |
re: #230 Floral Giraffe
I would kind of like to upding that, but, friends support friends, Sir.
I am offering him advice. He know’s that as long as he is in the right on an issue, old Reggie will always be there for him.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:10:26pm |
“Don’t look now Bob but there’s a giant ant coming for us and he’s holding a giant magnifying glass! Quick! Run for the hills. We’re not safe until we get to Boobkin Air Force Base!”
//
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:11:04pm |
re: #244 Reginald Perrin
I am offering him advice. He know’s that as long as he is in the right on an issue, old Reggie will always be there for him.
LOL! Old Reggie?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:12:16pm |
re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth
Everything happens because of liberal plants. When I catch the toe of my shoe on the sidewalk and end up doing that trip/jog maneuver that makes everyone look stupid, it’s because of insidious, liberal plants.
it can be hard to admit you’ve got nutcases in your ranks.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:12:44pm |
re: #242 webevintage
You got it.
Our DVD player is on its last leg and I told hubby the other day that when he buys a new one he has to get an all regions player. I’m tired of waiting for things to maybe (or never) show up on Netflix.
(I don’t think I’m asking much too much to have The Thick of It available in a Region 1 format.)
If you need a new DVD player, consider this. I bought a under 100 dollar blue-ray player for the family for Christmas… not for the blue-ray functionality, but for the ability to hook up to a network and stream Instant Queue Netflix movies.
Purchased a 50 foot Cat 5 cable, ran it from the router through the ceiling to the DVD player, and we can stream movies right from Netflix to the TV. Really makes your Netflix account well worth the monthly rate.
And we only have DSL up here in the mountains, and it works fine.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:12:58pm |
re: #244 Reginald Perrin
I am offering him advice. He know’s that as long as he is in the right on an issue, old Reggie will always be there for him.
Yeah, I know.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:13:52pm |
re: #248 Walter L. Newton
If you need a new DVD player, consider this. I bought a under 100 dollar blue-ray player for the family for Christmas… not for the blue-ray functionality, but for the ability to hook up to a network and stream Instant Queue Netflix movies.
Purchased a 50 foot Cat 5 cable, ran it from the router through the ceiling to the DVD player, and we can stream movies right from Netflix to the TV. Really makes your Netflix account well worth the monthly rate.
And we only have DSL up here in the mountains, and it works fine.
Do you do house calls?
| 251 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:16:23pm |
OH NOES!!! LIBRUL PLANTS HAZ INFILTRAYTUDS OUR RANKS AN IZ TAKIN OVURS!!!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:16:40pm |
re: #250 reine.de.tout
Do you do house calls?
It’s really automatic. Get one of the new DVD players that have the network hook up. Make sure it is Netflix capable, buy some Cat 5 cable, and plug one end into the DVD player, the other end into one of the 4 hard wired prots on the back of the DSL router or the broadband router… turn the DVD player on and you should have a connection.
It’s really plug and play. There should be no need to do anything else.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:17:17pm |
Grand Funk Railroad - I’m Your Captain
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:17:22pm |
re: #238 makeitstop
I grew up in Philly, and that’s where the Small Faces played their first US show. Because they were so well received, Mariott made it a point to open every US tour in Philly. I saw them twice at the Spectrum in Philly, and I had literally never seen a band with such great rock star moves. They were no slouches musically, either.
Back when a lot of performers stood stock still on stage, Humble Pie became a very tough act to follow.
oh yeah, Marriott was kick ass, his band really….saw them only once, at the Grande ball Room in Detroit I think….they did a very cool acoustic thing…they were huge in Detroit where they kill you if you don’t tear up the joint…good times
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:17:52pm |
re: #247 Dark_Falcon
it can be hard to admit you’ve got nutcases in your ranks.
Not for Dems. We keep them as housepets.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:18:21pm |
re: #224 Reginald Perrin
Good night, Sir.
DF, be well.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:18:39pm |
re: #248 Walter L. Newton
If you need a new DVD player, consider this. I bought a under 100 dollar blue-ray player for the family for Christmas… not for the blue-ray functionality, but for the ability to hook up to a network and stream Instant Queue Netflix movies.
Purchased a 50 foot Cat 5 cable, ran it from the router through the ceiling to the DVD player, and we can stream movies right from Netflix to the TV. Really makes your Netflix account well worth the monthly rate.
And we only have DSL up here in the mountains, and it works fine.
The Netflix streaming also works from an Xbox 360, that’s how I do it
So if you are more interested in the net functionality than the bluray discs, that works too!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:18:40pm |
re: #238 makeitstop
grew up in Philly?…music heaven in the east…
do wop baby
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:18:51pm |
re: #238 makeitstop
I grew up in Philly, and that’s where the Small Faces played their first US show. Because they were so well received, Mariott made it a point to open every US tour in Philly. I saw them twice at the Spectrum in Philly, and I had literally never seen a band with such great rock star moves. They were no slouches musically, either.
Back when a lot of performers stood stock still on stage, Humble Pie became a very tough act to follow.
Who was their other guitar player? Oh yeah. This guy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:19:21pm |
re: #255 Decatur Deb
Not for Dems. We keep them as housepets.
We embrace our crazy, we just don’t let them steer the ship :D
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:19:22pm |
re: #253 ozbloke
That tune is so bad ass.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:19:36pm |
re: #248 Walter L. Newton
If you need a new DVD player, consider this. I bought a under 100 dollar blue-ray player for the family for Christmas… not for the blue-ray functionality, but for the ability to hook up to a network and stream Instant Queue Netflix movies.
I think Netflix Instant is may be on of the best things ever.
I watched this:
To The Ends of the Earth
over the weekend.
My problem is that a lot of what I want to watch is not available streaming and are only on Region 2 DVDs.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:12pm |
re: #251 Slumbering Behemoth
OH NOES!!! LIBRUL PLANTS HAZ INFILTRAYTUDS OUR RANKS AN IZ TAKIN OVURS!!!
I haz found dah liberal plant iz enough 4 every1!
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:17pm |
re: #236 Gus 802
What would a giant ant do? Would they prey on humans or learn how to play the piano? I think they would make a beeline for Kansas and eat a lot of corn.
//
Actually, they would collapse into a pile of chiton and goo because of the inverse square law of body mass vs. exoskeletons. There’s a damn good reason that the biggest arthropods are in the ocean.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:24pm |
Speaking of aliens.
Assassin or hero? Pakistan’s great divide over killer of governor
…”Apart from the killer, nobody’s been arrested. There doesn’t seem to be any kind of crackdown, and it seems the government is backing off from doing anything. And that, of course, is proving to be very disturbing for liberals and moderates all across Pakistan.”
Taseer’s family couldn’t find a well-known maulvi, or Islamic cleric, to read the funeral prayers. “The government… maulvi refused to do it, even though he was a government servant,” Rashid said.
“And then, people went around to the leading mosques, to the leading maulvis, trying to find someone who would read the funeral prayers. They all refused to do so.”
The message seems to be: shut up, or get shot…
Blech.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:31pm |
re: #244 Reginald Perrin
I am offering him advice. He know’s that as long as he is in the right on an issue, old Reggie will always be there for him.
I’m sure he feels that much more secure, at night when it’s dark and lonely…thanks for watching out for him
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:35pm |
re: #262 webevintage
I think Netflix Instant is may be on of the best things ever.
I watched this:
To The Ends of the Earth
over the weekend.My problem is that a lot of what I want to watch is not available streaming and are only on Region 2 DVDs.
your other option is to get all clever with a PC and re-burn DVDs into something a US region player will eat, but that’s probably going to be a colossal pain in the technical ass
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:50pm |
O/T
I can’t frakking believe this one.
U.S. teenager tortured in Kuwait and barred re-entry into the U.S.
…At all times, Mohamed traveled on an American passport and had valid visas for all the countries he visited. He has never been arrested nor — until two weeks ago — was he ever involved with law enforcement in any way, including the entire time he lived in the U.S.
Approximately two weeks ago (on December 20), Mohamed went to the airport in Kuwait to have his visa renewed, as he had done every three months without incident for the last year. This time, however, he was told by the visa officer that his name had been marked in the computer, and after waiting five hours, he was taken into a room and interrogated by officials who refused to identify themselves. They then handcuffed and blindfolded him and drove him to some other locale. That was the start of a two-week-long, still ongoing nightmare during which he was imprisoned for a week in an unknown location by unknown captors, relentlessly interrogated, and severely beaten and threatened with even worse forms of torture….Mohamed says he was repeatedly beaten with a stick on the bottom of his feet and his palms, hit in the face, and hung from the ceiling. He also says his captors threatened him with both the arrest of his mother and electric shock, and told him that he should forget his family.
He still does not know why he was detained and beaten, nor does he know what is happening to him now. Indeed, although Mazzetti writes that he was detained and beaten by Kuwait captors, Mohamed actually has no idea who was responsible, and told me that at least some of the people interrogating him spoke English. He has been told that he will be deported back to the U.S., but is now on a no-fly list and has no idea when he will be released. American officials told Mazzetti that “Mr. Mohamed is on a no-fly list and, for now at least, cannot return to the United States.” He’s been charged with no crime and presented with no evidence of any wrongdoing.
*This was scooped by the NYT this morning and is being carried by Balko as well at The Agitator.*
What the hell is going on with our country? I am actually frightened of what the government is doing. I have never heard of de facto exileing an American citizen who is not charged with any crime, nor of defending said action with secret evidence.
I actually think it may be time to consider leaving America. Something ugly and ruthless is afoot, and I want no part of it.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:21:55pm |
re: #255 Decatur Deb
Not for Dems. We keep them as housepets.
Yeah, but how do you toilet train them?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:22:47pm |
re: #257 WindUpBird
The Netflix streaming also works from an Xbox 360, that’s how I do it
So if you are more interested in the net functionality than the bluray discs, that works too!
Good advice. We needed a new DVD player anyway, the older one was a Wal-mart throw a way, and was acting squirrelly, and most of the even under players with network capabilities are under 100 dollars, so, went for the blue-ray, just in case we ever need that feature.
But it was a given that for under 100 dollars, any box that streams network connections to the TV is worth the cash.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:23:04pm |
re: #254 albusteve
oh yeah, Marriott was kick ass, his band really…saw them only once, at the Grande ball Room in Detroit I think…they did a very cool acoustic thing…they were huge in Detroit where they kill you if you don’t tear up the joint…good times
I saw the original lineup twice, and once after Clem Clemson replaced Frampton, so I actually saw them a total of three times. The Clemson lineup was really good, but that original lineup with Frampton was nearly super-human. Talk about grabbing the crowd by the throat - Marriott never let up on stage.
He and Frampton were planning to write and record at the time that Steve died in a house fire. Too bad that idea never came to fruition.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:23:09pm |
re: #266 Gus 802
Speaking out against summary executions of Christian women seems to be dangerous over there.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:23:17pm |
re: #270 Dark_Falcon
Yeah, but how do you toilet train them?
Hey come on, even us nutsos understand what a portapotty is, we use them at concerts
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:23:48pm |
re: #269 celticdragon
I can’t frakking believe this one.
I can’t believe that you still believe anything Glenn Greenwald has to say about anything.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:24:02pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:24:05pm |
re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth
That tune is so bad ass.
I played the album to death as a kid, played that tune in a band in the late 70’s always went over well in the pub’s.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:24:23pm |
re: #271 Walter L. Newton
Good advice. We needed a new DVD player anyway, the older one was a Wal-mart throw a way, and was acting squirrelly, and most of the even under players with network capabilities are under 100 dollars, so, went for the blue-ray, just in case we ever need that feature.
But it was a given that for under 100 dollars, any box that streams network connections to the TV is worth the cash.
There’s also that Raku thing, which I am so out of the loop I had no idea existed, it’s all moving so fast
I’ve basically realized my tech knowledge is shrinking before my eyes, the very act of sitting at a desktop computer to do your computing is becoming obsolete
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:24:53pm |
re: #269 celticdragon
CD, that story is by Glenn Greenwald. I’m not sure its trustworthy.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:25:44pm |
re: #268 WindUpBird
your other option is to get all clever with a PC and re-burn DVDs into something a US region player will eat, but that’s probably going to be a colossal pain in the technical ass
I think this is what we are looking at:
amazon.com
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:25:57pm |
re: #275 Killgore Trout
I can’t believe that you still believe anything Glenn Greenwald has to say about anything.
Read the rest where the NYT ran the story this morning, including where officials said he was not allowed to come back to the US, nor was he charged with anything. Greenwald talked to the teenager for 50 minutes by phone from his detention cell today.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:26:09pm |
re: #272 makeitstop
I saw the original lineup twice, and once after Clem Clemson replaced Frampton, so I actually saw them a total of three times. The Clemson lineup was really good, but that original lineup with Frampton was nearly super-human. Talk about grabbing the crowd by the throat - Marriott never let up on stage.
He and Frampton were planning to write and record at the time that Steve died in a house fire. Too bad that idea never came to fruition.
I was going to say that HP was dangerously close to a super group, but didn’t….Frampton, obviously was never better…and you are right about their stage presence….the fans loved them
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:26:13pm |
re: #278 WindUpBird
There’s also that Raku thing, which I am so out of the loop I had no idea existed, it’s all moving so fast
I’ve basically realized my tech knowledge is shrinking before my eyes, the very act of sitting at a desktop computer to do your computing is becoming obsolete
Now you lost me… is that like parkour?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:26:19pm |
re: #275 Killgore Trout
well, the story does seem to have some mass, it at least exists in normal human world: washingtonpost.com
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:26:22pm |
re: #265 austin_blue
Actually, they would collapse into a pile of chiton and goo because of the inverse square law of body mass vs. exoskeletons. There’s a damn good reason that the biggest arthropods are in the ocean.
And yet, I have still not heard one damn good reason why people pay top dollar to eat those disgusting sea bugs.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:26:55pm |
re: #279 Dark_Falcon
CD, that story is by Glenn Greenwald. I’m not sure its trustworthy.
So look it up at the NYT…or are we saying that newspapers are untrustworthy librul media as well??
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:26:55pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:27:21pm |
re: #279 Dark_Falcon
CD, that story is by Glenn Greenwald. I’m not sure its trustworthy.
story’s real, glenn’s take may be bonksters, but the story exists
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:27:23pm |
re: #284 WindUpBird
well, the story does seem to have some mass, it at least exists in normal human world: [Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
Another one…
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:28:17pm |
re: #286 celticdragon
So look it up at the NYT…or are we saying that newspapers are untrustworthy librul media as well??
just the Times…it’s reached rag status imo
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:28:22pm |
re: #280 webevintage
I think this is what we are looking at:
[Link: www.amazon.com…]
Oh kick ass :D
Yeah I had no idea they were so cheap, for some reason I always figured region free players would cost a ton
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:29:19pm |
re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth
And yet, I have still not heard one damn good reason why people pay top dollar to eat those disgusting sea bugs.
Lobsters are sea roaches. And damn good with drawn butter and lemon.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:29:22pm |
re: #258 albusteve
grew up in Philly?…music heaven in the east…
do wop baby
What a great music town. When I was a wee lad, one of my sisters worked at a vinyl pressing plant where all the Cameo-Parkway stuff was pressed. Chubby Checker, Dee Dee Sharp, The Orlons… I listened to them until the Beatles came along.
I’m a guitarist, and when I started playing around the city I played shows in coffeehouses and high schools with Hall & Oates and Todd Rundgren. You could just tell that those guys were on their way to big things. Those were great days.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:29:31pm |
re: #290 albusteve
just the Times…it’s reached rag status imo
My bad. Maybe I should quote from Newsmax from now on.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:30:04pm |
re: #289 Gus 802
It doesn’t exactly seem like it is AN AMAZINGLY UNLIKELY OCCURENCE that the Kuwati security might be a little rough on folks
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:30:05pm |
Breitbart has gone into the normal Stalker Meme of fixating on Charles’ ponytail. That’s one those hater themes that I just don’t understand.
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:30:16pm |
re: #286 celticdragon
So look it up at the NYT…or are we saying that newspapers are untrustworthy librul media as well??
Yes. Yes we are. Throw AP stories into that bucket as well.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:30:23pm |
re: #287 WindUpBird
[Link: www.roku.com…]
ROku, raku is pottery
oof
I thought so… that’s why I made the snarky comment… Roku… saw the link… makes sense… a network box “hard programed” with a Netflix app.
Hell… my Ipod Touch has a Netflix app on it and I can stream the same Instant Q stuff any where in the world that I have Wifi.
Yes… computing has left the building.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:30:27pm |
re: #281 celticdragon
The teenager, Gulet Mohamed, a Somali-American who turned 19 during his captivity, said in a telephone interview on Wednesday from a Kuwaiti detention cell that he was beaten with sticks, forced to stand for hours, threatened with electric shocks and warned that his mother would be imprisoned if he did not give truthful answers about his travels in Yemen and Somalia in 2009.
American officials have offered few details about the case, except to confirm that Mr. Mohamed is on a no-fly list and, for now at least, cannot return to the United States. Mr. Mohamed, from Alexandria, Va., remains in a Kuwaiti detention center even after Kuwait’s government, according to his brother, determined that he should be released.
Are you going to pretend to be surprised when we find out why he’s on the no fly list? From the NYT…
The teenager, Gulet Mohamed, a Somali-American who turned 19 during his captivity, said in a telephone interview on Wednesday from a Kuwaiti detention cell that he was beaten with sticks, forced to stand for hours, threatened with electric shocks and warned that his mother would be imprisoned if he did not give truthful answers about his travels in Yemen and Somalia in 2009.American officials have offered few details about the case, except to confirm that Mr. Mohamed is on a no-fly list and, for now at least, cannot return to the United States. Mr. Mohamed, from Alexandria, Va., remains in a Kuwaiti detention center even after Kuwait’s government, according to his brother, determined that he should be released.
Too bad GITMO is no longer accepting reservations for a nice waterboarding follwed by a chicken Pilaf cous cous with steamed chickpeas.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:30:28pm |
re: #292 austin_blue
Lobsters are sea roaches. And damn good with drawn butter and lemon.
Sea roaches? Yes.
Damn good? Tri-Tip tastes better, and at a fraction of the price.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:31:06pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart has gone into the normal Stalker Meme of fixating on Charles’ ponytail. That’s one those hater themes that I just don’t understand.
Allow me to give you a clue.
*Ahem*
GET A HAIR CUT YOU HIPPIE!
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:31:50pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart has gone into the normal Stalker Meme of fixating on Charles’ ponytail. That’s one those hater themes that I just don’t understand.
What. A. Dweeb.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:31:55pm |
re: #302 jamesfirecat
Allow me to give you a clue.
*Ahem*
GET A HAIR CUT YOU HIPPIE!
I resent that. My hair is down over my shoulders… and I’m not a hippie… I’m not even hip :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:32:01pm |
re: #294 celticdragon
My bad. Maybe I should quote from Newsmax from now on.
Newsmax is perhaps the funniest name for a right wing website I’ve ever heard
I just imagine a guy in a helmet with that pro wrestler monster truck rally announcer voice flexing and going NEWSMAAAAX and then his head flies off and his biceps explode into laser light and there’s a stock explosion sound
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:32:47pm |
re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth
Sea roaches? Yes.
Damn good? Tri-Tip tastes better, and at a fraction of the price.
Pigs will eat anything too.
Let ‘em eat pork!
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:32:52pm |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
I thought so… that’s why I made the snarky comment… Roku… saw the link… makes sense… a network box “hard programed” with a Netflix app.
Hell… my Ipod Touch has a Netflix app on it and I can stream the same Instant Q stuff any where in the world that I have Wifi.
Yes… computing has left the building.
aaaaaagh I haven’t even TRIED that, and I’ve had an ipod touch for ages :D
I literally only use the thing for music, bookworm, and guitar scales
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:33:42pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart has gone into the normal Stalker Meme of fixating on Charles’ ponytail. That’s one those hater themes that I just don’t understand.
Charles could cure cancer, and those brain dead fanatics would find a way to hate him for it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:33:45pm |
re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth
Sea roaches? Yes.
Damn good? Tri-Tip tastes better, and at a fraction of the price.
I like shrimp, shrimp ain’t so spendy *_*
Really though, just give me salmon and maybe some unagi sushi, and a fuck load of that hitachino japanese micro, i’ll be set for life
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:33:50pm |
re: #295 WindUpBird
It doesn’t exactly seem like it is AN AMAZINGLY UNLIKELY OCCURENCE that the Kuwati security might be a little rough on folks
Do you think that Kuwaiti security would beat an American citizen without our knowledge and connivance? That is pushing credulity past breaking for me. As I also said…I have never heard of consigning a US citizen into practical exile before…not to mention he has not been charged or even remotely implicated in anything. I didn’t even know that was possible.
Apparently, it is. Yes, that scares me to death.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:34:03pm |
Just watched the Clash of the Titans remake. In a word, meh.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:34:33pm |
re: #308 Slumbering Behemoth
Charles could cure cancer, and those brain dead fanatics would find a way to hate him for it.
Think of all the doctors and pharmacists out of work because of him!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:35:00pm |
re: #304 Walter L. Newton
I resent that. My hair is down over my shoulders… and I’m not a hippie… I’m not even hip :)
I thought that artistic types were automatically hipsters.
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:35:13pm |
re: #307 WindUpBird
aaagh I haven’t even TRIED that, and I’ve had an ipod touch for ages :D
I literally only use the thing for music, bookworm, and guitar scales
Get with the program, old dude.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:35:19pm |
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:35:27pm |
re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth
Sea roaches? Yes.
Damn good? Tri-Tip tastes better, and at a fraction of the price.
Oh, I don’t disagree. But lobster tastes good. King crab tastes good. Shrimp tastes good. Blue crab tastes good.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:35:37pm |
re: #308 Slumbering Behemoth
Charles could cure cancer, and those brain dead fanatics would find a way to hate him for it.
they’re really not fanatics so much as they’re just angry dejected resentful internet. They were part of an internet culture, it moved away from them, they got pissed and crazy.
Trust me, I been blogging a long time, there’s a great deal of “dejected resetful internet” I’ve had to deal with over the years, a lot of sea changes where internet friends get lost or leave the culture or in fact go raving nuts, oh yes *_*
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:36:25pm |
re: #294 celticdragon
My bad. Maybe I should quote from Newsmax from now on.
hehe Well, the NYT article clearly indicated he was being detained because of trips to Somalia, but more importantly Yemen. I can see why they would question him. Torture him is a whole other issue, of course, but it isn’t clear who did it, or if the U.S. was behind it. Secondly Greenwald said he has no idea why he was detained, and that isn’t so.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:36:33pm |
re: #293 makeitstop
What a great music town. When I was a wee lad, one of my sisters worked at a vinyl pressing plant where all the Cameo-Parkway stuff was pressed. Chubby Checker, Dee Dee Sharp, The Orlons… I listened to them until the Beatles came along.
I’m a guitarist, and when I started playing around the city I played shows in coffeehouses and high schools with Hall & Oates and Todd Rundgren. You could just tell that those guys were on their way to big things. Those were great days.
I have a great friend born and raised in Philly…unbelievable how much music originated in that town….he’s a blast to visit, because he’s so knowledgeable about that stuff….it’s a treat for me…so any tid bits are well received by me…I grew up midway between Detroit and Chicago but in the early days we had to make sure we saw the premier bands, and we did….that was the best we could do….no nightly gigs at the Filmore for us, but looking back, I did okay
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:36:33pm |
Not this again. Yeah, don’t read or listen to anything from:
• AP
• ABC
• CBS
• CNN
• MSNBC
• NBC
• New York Times
• Reuters
• Washington Post
That’s so 2004. /
Just watch Fox News. //
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:37:11pm |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
Hell… my Ipod Touch has a Netflix app on it and I can stream the same Instant Q stuff any where in the world that I have Wifi.
Are you confident about that Walter, I think netflix will determine your location via the ip and probably not stream to some countries.
They won’t /don’t stream to Australia
;_;
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:37:17pm |
re: #309 WindUpBird
I like fish, but I am entirely unimpressed with crustaceans.
If someone else were picking up the tab, I’d still rather have a five dollar hamburger than a twenty-five dollar lobster.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:37:22pm |
re: #307 WindUpBird
aaagh I haven’t even TRIED that, and I’ve had an ipod touch for ages :D
I literally only use the thing for music, bookworm, and guitar scales
Guitar scales? Have you seen the Pocket Guitar app… amazing. I also have the same software developers “Pocket Organ C3B3” which is a virtual Hammond B3 organ, with a Leslie rotating speaker, in a Touch.
I also have some very professional synth apps and a drum kit app. I could literally sit in with any band just using my Touch and an amp to plug into.
Beyond real.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:37:54pm |
re: #314 prairiefire
Get with the program, old dude.
I stay above water at the tiny bits of technology I need to know, if it has to do with clever digital music shit or art or games (less so games these days), I am sorta tech savvy. When it comes to anything else, I’m hosed :D
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:38:07pm |
re: #294 celticdragon
My bad. Maybe I should quote from Newsmax from now on.
I sure don’t mean anything about the story…I just like knifing the NYT
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:38:18pm |
re: #316 austin_blue
Oh, I don’t disagree. But lobster tastes good. King crab tastes good. Shrimp tastes good. Blue crab tastes good.
Tri-Tip tastes better! :P
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:38:26pm |
re: #310 celticdragon
Do you think that Kuwaiti security would beat an American citizen without our knowledge and connivance? That is pushing credulity past breaking for me. As I also said…I have never heard of consigning a US citizen into practical exile before…not to mention he has not been charged or even remotely implicated in anything. I didn’t even know that was possible.
Apparently, it is. Yes, that scares me to death.
Maybe they had intel on him. sometimes people are put on the no-fly list as a result of secret intel. It’s unfortunate, but sometimes the government can’t explain such decisions. They should make provision for his return, even if cuffed and with an air marshal.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:38:28pm |
re: #174 Floral Giraffe
There must be a plugged tube on the internets, so I just sent you another copy.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:38:36pm |
re: #322 ozbloke
Are you confident about that Walter, I think netflix will determine your location via the ip and probably not stream to some countries.
They won’t /don’t stream to Australia
;_;
Oh… I didn’t know that… I just assumed I can get a stream over any WiFi link… I’ll test that in France next weekend.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:38:49pm |
re: #326 albusteve
I sure don’t mean anything about the story…I just like knifing the NYT
Maria! Maria! I just met a girl named Maria…
//
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:39:03pm |
re: #320 albusteve
I grew up midway between Detroit and Chicago but in the early days we had to make sure we saw the premier bands, and we did…
Detroit? You must have caught your share of Mitch Ryder shows, then. Another great showman. Great pipes, too.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:39:05pm |
re: #316 austin_blue
Oh, I don’t disagree. But lobster tastes good. King crab tastes good. Shrimp tastes good. Blue crab tastes good.
/no they don’t! they are horrible & eating them makes you listen to Rush Limbaugh… no liberal should ever eat a sea bug… not even if Michelle loves em!
hey, gotta keep the price down, ya know.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:39:27pm |
re: #296 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart has gone into the normal Stalker Meme of fixating on Charles’ ponytail. That’s one those hater themes that I just don’t understand.
he’s punch drunk…staggering, his hand are down and leading with his jaw at this point
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:39:48pm |
re: #319 marjoriemoon
hehe Well, the NYT article clearly indicated he was being detained because of trips to Somalia, but more importantly Yemen. I can see why they would question him. Torture him is a whole other issue, of course, but it isn’t clear who did it, or if the U.S. was behind it. Secondly Greenwald said he has no idea why he was detained, and that isn’t so.
yeah the question is was there a beatdown
I consider a beatdown by aimless police/security thugs to not really be torture. Horrible, yes, assault and battery, yes, torture, eh. Torture implies a level of sadistic intent, I figure.
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:39:56pm |
re: #323 Slumbering Behemoth
I like fish, but I am entirely unimpressed with crustaceans.
If someone else were picking up the tab, I’d still rather have a five dollar hamburger than a twenty-five dollar lobster.
They are $35 now.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:40:12pm |
re: #324 Walter L. Newton
Guitar scales? Have you seen the Pocket Guitar app… amazing. I also have the same software developers “Pocket Organ C3B3” which is a virtual Hammond B3 organ, with a Leslie rotating speaker, in a Touch.
I also have some very professional synth apps and a drum kit app. I could literally sit in with any band just using my Touch and an amp to plug into.
Beyond real.
Have you seen the video of the band on the subway playing an original song on their iPhones? My jaw dropped when i saw that.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:40:32pm |
re: #300 Killgore Trout
I guess it doesn’t concern you in the slightest that a US citizen can be abandoned in a 3rd world hell hole prison to be tortured, refused entry to the United States, and even denied the ability to fly on an airplane all on secret, unchallenged government evidence that he or she is not privy to!
Glad I have that straight, Kilgore. I honestly thought better of you. That is not part of any free United States that I grew up in.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:40:37pm |
re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth
Tri-Tip tastes better! :P
Well, much the same way I want a Ferrari Daytona AND a dune buggy AND an Audi RS4…
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:40:57pm |
re: #333 brookly red
/no they don’t! they are horrible & eating them makes you listen to Rush Limbaugh… no liberal should ever eat a sea bug… not even if Michelle loves em!
hey, gotta keep the price down, ya know.
Never gonna happen. There’s a damn good reason seafood costs more than beef.
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rwmofo Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:41:08pm |
re: #321 Gus 802
Not this again. Yeah, don’t read or listen to anything from:
• AP
• ABC
• CBS
• CNN
• MSNBC
• NBC
• New York Times
• Reuters
• Washington PostThat’s so 2004. /
Just watch Fox News.
Fox definitely has the hottest babes. Of course having attractive people on air seems to be the networks’ preference anyway, which is why you hardly ever see any NY Times reporters on TV.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:41:17pm |
re: #334 albusteve
he’s punch drunk…staggering, his hand are down and leading with his jaw at this point
I love it: Andy the Punchdrunk Palooka.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:41:40pm |
re: #338 celticdragon
I guess it doesn’t concern you in the slightest that a US citizen can be abandoned in a 3rd world hell hole prison to be tortured, refused entry to the United States, and even denied the ability to fly on an airplane all on secret, unchallenged government evidence that he or she is not privy to!
Glad I have that straight, Kilgore. I honestly thought better of you. That is not part of any free United States that I grew up in.
I don’t think this exchange is going to bear fruit ;-)
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:42:24pm |
re: #318 prairiefire
He was on the “no fly’ list.
No shit. He wasn’t before…but he is now. He doesn’t know why, and he has not been charged or accused in any criminal wrongdoing. We would know real quick if he was.
The gubnimt is always right…
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:42:50pm |
re: #335 WindUpBird
yeah the question is was there a beatdown
I consider a beatdown by aimless police/security thugs to not really be torture. Horrible, yes, assault and battery, yes, torture, eh. Torture implies a level of sadistic intent, I figure.
I’m sure he has marks to prove what he went through. I can’t agree with that, even if they think he had terrorist ties.
But he’s in the Kuwait airport. He traveled to Yemen to learn Arabic. He can’t learn Arabic in the states? I mean really… This is why you listen to your mother. She told him not to go. (If I’m remembering what I just read.)
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:43:07pm |
re: #337 makeitstop
Have you seen the video of the band on the subway playing an original song on their iPhones? My jaw dropped when i saw that.
I haven’t seen that one, but I have seen videos of people using their Ipod/Iphone like a band would use musical instruments.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:43:10pm |
re: #340 austin_blue
Never gonna happen. There’s a damn good reason seafood costs more than beef.
That’s part of why I prefer steak to lobster. The other part is that lobster is too lacking in flavor for my tastes.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:43:24pm |
re: #340 austin_blue
Never gonna happen. There’s a damn good reason seafood costs more than beef.
shut up & keep calling them sea bugs, OK?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:44:22pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:44:39pm |
re: #324 Walter L. Newton
Guitar scales? Have you seen the Pocket Guitar app… amazing. I also have the same software developers “Pocket Organ C3B3” which is a virtual Hammond B3 organ, with a Leslie rotating speaker, in a Touch.
I also have some very professional synth apps and a drum kit app. I could literally sit in with any band just using my Touch and an amp to plug into.
Beyond real.
I have GTK lite, guitar app wise, which is pretty miraculous *_* I don’t have anything that MAKES music on it yet, but that’s only because I never go anywhere with the thing besides the car, all my noisemaking apparatus is here at my desk :D
I was impressed with the app that was an amp modeller , that was pretty fabulous
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:44:44pm |
re: #348 brookly red
shut up & keep calling them sea bugs, OK?
Roaches. Sea Roaches. Nobody envisions themselves eating a roach (retch).
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:45:06pm |
re: #346 Walter L. Newton
I haven’t seen that one, but I have seen videos of people using their Ipod/Iphone like a band would use musical instruments.
I’ll try to find the link for you. I’m heading to bed now, but I’ll be back tomorrow with the link if I can find it.
‘Night, Lizards.
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BryanS Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:45:31pm |
re: #345 marjoriemoon
I’m sure he has marks to prove what he went through. I can’t agree with that, even if they think he had terrorist ties.
But he’s in the Kuwait airport. He traveled to Yemen to learn Arabic. He can’t learn Arabic in the states? I mean really… This is why you listen to your mother. She told him not to go. (If I’m remembering what I just read.)
Immersing yourself in a language most definitely a very good way to learn it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:45:36pm |
re: #345 marjoriemoon
I’m sure he has marks to prove what he went through. I can’t agree with that, even if they think he had terrorist ties.
But he’s in the Kuwait airport. He traveled to Yemen to learn Arabic. He can’t learn Arabic in the states? I mean really… This is why you listen to your mother. She told him not to go. (If I’m remembering what I just read.)
Yeah, it seems HELLA RISKY to me! But I’m a really risk averse person. i don’t like flying on planes to a state away!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:45:51pm |
re: #351 austin_blue
Roaches. Sea Roaches. Nobody envisions themselves eating a roach (retch).
Well, Renfield maybe.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:46:08pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:46:31pm |
Fuck lobster. Crab and crayfish are sustainable and more affordable.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:46:38pm |
re: #341 rwmofo
Fox definitely has the hottest babes. Of course having attractive people on air seems to be the networks’ preference anyway, which is why you hardly ever see any NY Times reporters on TV.
Steady now! OK, I admit, I used to think Patti Ann Browne was pretty cute during my “Red Eye” viewing days. She has a lot of other qualities of course.
Browne earned a Masters Degree (GPA 4.0) in Communication Arts from the New York Institute of Technology in Old Westbury, NY. She attended on a full scholarship (teacher assistantship), which involved teaching news-writing and production skills to undergraduates. She was also a general assignment reporter for NYIT’s award-winning news program “LI News Tonight”, which airs nightly on Long Island cable.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:46:45pm |
re: #332 makeitstop
Detroit? You must have caught your share of Mitch Ryder shows, then. Another great showman. Great pipes, too.
he was alot of fun…the MC5, Stooges, Brownsville Station, Amboy Dukes…of course Bob Seger, who I never thought much of…lots of music
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:46:45pm |
re: #328 Dark_Falcon
Maybe they had intel on him. sometimes people are put on the no-fly list as a result of secret intel. It’s unfortunate, but sometimes the government can’t explain such decisions. They should make provision for his return, even if cuffed and with an air marshal.
I don’t buy that whole secret evidence thing in a free country. Secret evidence stinks of authoritarian dictators and “fog and night” bullshit. If you have an accusation to make in this country, fucking make it and put it in court.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:47:16pm |
I took an extra minute and found the video.
Sorry, don’t know how to embed yet.
Anyway, good night. This time I mean it.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:48:30pm |
re: #350 WindUpBird
I have GTK lite, guitar app wise, which is pretty miraculous *_* I don’t have anything that MAKES music on it yet, but that’s only because I never go anywhere with the thing besides the car, all my noisemaking apparatus is here at my desk :D
I was impressed with the app that was an amp modeller , that was pretty fabulous
Get Pocket Guitar.. 1.99, has acoustic guitar, electric/acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass guitar and uke. Four effect pedals built in, and you can actually finger it like a guitar…
Pocket Guitar and Pocket Organ… “Burn”
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:48:59pm |
re: #345 marjoriemoon
I’m sure he has marks to prove what he went through. I can’t agree with that, even if they think he had terrorist ties.
But he’s in the Kuwait airport. He traveled to Yemen to learn Arabic. He can’t learn Arabic in the states? I mean really… This is why you listen to your mother. She told him not to go. (If I’m remembering what I just read.)
You didn’t notice he went to stay with his extended family?? Visiting your relatives is now a problem if they have the wrong skin color and religion?
BTW…Jews go to Israel to study in Hebrew schools rather often. Is that a problem? Do we really want to go there?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:49:57pm |
re: #362 Walter L. Newton
Get Pocket Guitar.. 1.99, has acoustic guitar, electric/acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass guitar and uke. Four effect pedals built in, and you can actually finger it like a guitar…
Pocket Guitar and Pocket Organ… “Burn”
[Video]
Sorry… this is the better video…
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:50:13pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:50:27pm |
re: #360 celticdragon
I don’t buy that whole secret evidence thing in a free country. Secret evidence stinks of authoritarian dictators and “fog and night” bullshit. If you have an accusation to make in this country, fucking make it and put it in court.
The problem is that with terrorists, sometimes you can’t get confirmation till their plans are quite advanced. Sorry, but I’m not willing to run the risk. If one is suspected as a terrorist, then you have to be kept away from places where you could do damage.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:50:41pm |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
Fuck lobster. Crab and crayfish are sustainable and more affordable.
Guess that means any day now lobster will be banned in San Francisco.
// //
//Jumps in fox hole!
//Don’t shoot!
//
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:50:49pm |
re: #361 makeitstop
I took an extra minute and found the video.
Sorry, don’t know how to embed yet.
Anyway, good night. This time I mean it.
whoa…booked it, thanks
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:51:01pm |
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:51:15pm |
re: #364 celticdragon
You didn’t notice he went to stay with his extended family?? Visiting your relatives is now a problem if they have the wrong skin color and religion?
BTW…Jews go to Israel to study in Hebrew schools rather often. Is that a problem? Do we really want to go there?
Dude, it’s Somalia and Yemen! Two hotbed breeding places for terrorists! Israel is a democratic society. Apples and oranges.
LIke I say, he shoulda listened to his momma. This isn’t a time to go adventuring to places like Yemen.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:52:16pm |
re: #362 Walter L. Newton
oh nice! GTK lite isn’t an amp, tho, it’s a chord library and a scale finder thingy, shows intervals and a fretboard, etc.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:52:23pm |
re: #368 Gus 802
Guess that means any day now lobster will be banned in San Francisco.
// //
//Jumps in fox hole!
//Don’t shoot!
//
only if toys come with them
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:52:25pm |
re: #364 celticdragon
You didn’t notice he went to stay with his extended family?? Visiting your relatives is now a problem if they have the wrong skin color and religion?
BTW…Jews go to Israel to study in Hebrew schools rather often. Is that a problem? Do we really want to go there?
Last I noticed, Joos weren’t attacking us and our interests. But your point may be valid. But why was he studying in Yemen when his family was in Kuwait?
Just sayin’.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:53:05pm |
re: #351 austin_blue
Roaches. Sea Roaches. Nobody envisions themselves eating a roach (retch).
Cockroaches are probably the last things you wish to see in your kitchen. They often serve as an indictment on the cleanliness of the place. But in some abodes, they belong in the kitchen because they are part of the meal. Here’s a simple recipe for the critters.
Method:
Simmer cockroaches in vinegar then boil with butter, farina flour, pepper and salt to make a paste. Spread on buttered bread.
Stir Fried Cockroach
Ingredients:
4 or 5 cockroaches (recently frozen)
1 onion
1 red pepper
1 green pepper
1 tbs salt
1 tbs corn starch
4 tbs cooking oil
2 cups rice
Method:
1. Remove and discard the solid wing covering flaps and all legs of the cockroach.
2. Put the whole cockroaches into a pot of boiling oil and quickly fry for 15 seconds.
3. Heat a wok until hot. Add four spoons of oil and put all vegetables into it to stir fry for three minutes.
4. Put the half cooked cockroaches in to the wok and add salt and corn starch.
5. Serve on or with a bed of white rice.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:53:24pm |
re: #367 Dark_Falcon
The problem is that with terrorists, sometimes you can’t get confirmation till their plans are quite advanced. Sorry, but I’m not willing to run the risk. If one is suspected as a terrorist, then you have to be kept away from places where you could do damage.
Risk comes with a free country. If you want safety, your best bet was Moscow in 1967. Safest place in the world even at 2 AM. It is not the primary job of the government to protect us. The primary job is to safeguard essential liberties…or at least it used to be. Maybe not now.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:53:38pm |
re: #374 austin_blue
Last I noticed, Joos weren’t attacking us and our interests. But your point may be valid. But why was he studying in Yemen when his family was in Kuwait?
Just sayin’.
He’s Somalian. He was visiting relatives in Somalia and learning Arabic in Yemen, if I remember the article.
And Celtic, I never said I agreed with him being tortured.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:53:39pm |
re: #373 albusteve
only if toys come with them
Bob’s Lobster Shack Special!
Kid’s Happy Lobster Meal includes candy cigarettes and a toy machine gun.
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:53:55pm |
re: #374 austin_blue
Last I noticed, Joos weren’t attacking us and our interests. But your point may be valid. But why was he studying in Yemen when his family was in Kuwait?
Just sayin’.
wouldn’t YOU flee to a terrifying dictatorship to escape your family if you’re a teenager? :D :D :D
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:54:16pm |
Nice send-up of O’Reilly not understanding how tides work on the Colbert Report just now. Neil DeGrasse Tyson explains it all.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:54:46pm |
re: #372 WindUpBird
oh nice! GTK lite isn’t an amp, tho, it’s a chord library and a scale finder thingy, shows intervals and a fretboard, etc.
Got it… listen the the second version of “Burn” I linked to, the app author used more overlaid tracks and video panels.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:55:07pm |
re: #371 marjoriemoon
Dude, it’s Somalia and Yemen! Two hotbed breeding places for terrorists! Israel is a democratic society. Apples and oranges.
LIke I say, he shoulda listened to his momma. This isn’t a time to go adventuring to places like Yemen.
so Is Mexico. Lotsa violent drug killers in Mexico. Maybe we need to start turning away US citizens who go there on vacation, hmm? You can never be really sure, can you?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:55:12pm |
re: #380 calochortus
Where’s ICP when i need them
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:55:16pm |
Hey! after only a week of heavy overtime they managed to take the snow plow off of the garbage truck and actually picked up some of the trash on my street… of course they couldn’t finish cause they needed to get back to the yard & put the plows back on cause it might snow again tomorrow.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:55:58pm |
re: #384 brookly red
Hey! after only a week of heavy overtime they managed to take the snow plow off of the garbage truck and actually picked up some of the trash on my street… of course they couldn’t finish cause they needed to get back to the yard & put the plows back on cause it might snow again tomorrow.
Maybe I need to head north with a snowplow… I could use some work.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:56:05pm |
re: #382 celticdragon
so Is Mexico. Lotsa violent drug killers in Mexico. Maybe we need to start turning away US citizens who go there on vacation, hmm? You can never be really sure, can you?
Oy… You don’t get it. I’m sorry. Read a little about Yemen, particularly the last year.
I’m off to bed.
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:03pm |
re: #359 albusteve
he was alot of fun…the MC5, Stooges, Brownsville Station, Amboy Dukes…of course Bob Seger, who I never thought much of…lots of music
Upding for Brownsville Station. “School Punks” was my favorite album while growing up.
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:10pm |
Adios, dear lizards. Sleep deeply and have sweet dreams.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:10pm |
re: #377 marjoriemoon
He’s Somalian. He was visiting relatives in Somalia and learning Arabic in Yemen, if I remember the article.
And Celtic, I never said I agreed with him being tortured.
And that right there would be enough to catch the attention of the CIA. Given that a number of Somali-Americans have gone to Somalia to fight on behalf of Radical Islam, his interrogation (not the beating, but an interrogation) and placement on the ‘no-fly’ list seem warranted to me as a war measure.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:10pm |
re: #77 brookly red
well it has to do with 501 status… comparing Fox (no matter how you feel about them) a business that pays taxes with MM, a tax free entity is kinda apples & oranges, no?
Not unless the discussion is about taxes.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:14pm |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
this is genius :D
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:42pm |
re: #385 Walter L. Newton
Maybe I need to head north with a snowplow… I could use some work.
what? they shoot scabs in these parts… not a good idea.
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:57:48pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:58:49pm |
re: #390 SanFranciscoZionist
Not unless the discussion is about taxes.
over 300 comments later? tardy even for you…
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:59:03pm |
re: #386 marjoriemoon
Oy… You don’t get it. I’m sorry. Read a little about Yemen, particularly the last year.
I’m off to bed.
I get that I sure as hell wouldn’t go to Yemen…but American citizens still have the right to travel there last I checked.
Do we now have secret laws as well? Serious question. Is it a violation of an unwritten and unspoken “law” to go to certain countries now even though there is no explicable ban on travel to theem like you have to Cuba?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 8:59:51pm |
re: #92 brookly red
they are a legitimate bussiness, they have sponsors & pay taxes, if you agree with them or not… MM is just as partisan and claims to be a charity… kinda hard to justify IMO.
They claim to be a nonprofit, which they are.
This is the stupidest way of trying to discredit Media Matters I’ve ever seen, even here. There are hundreds of conservative nonprofits. They do no gain or lose legitimacy by having nonprofit status.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:01:37pm |
re: #389 Dark_Falcon
And that right there would be enough to catch the attention of the CIA. Given that a number of Somali-Americans have gone to Somalia to fight on behalf of Radical Islam, his interrogation (not the beating, but an interrogation) and placement on the ‘no-fly’ list seem warranted to me as a war measure.
Engaging in free and lawful travel is now enough to have criminal style sanctions placed on you? The kid has not been charged with anything!
If this is the case, then just admit that we are not really a free country anymore and live with that.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:01:59pm |
re: #387 BongCrodny
Upding for Brownsville Station. “School Punks” was my favorite album while growing up.
pretty obscure…I saw them many times
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:02:29pm |
re: #391 WindUpBird
this is genius :D
Yep… great apps… I owned the hardware version of that virtual Hammond organ… bought it 6 years ago when I was still making big money… cost me 3200 dollars… that Ipod Touch app… 1.99… genius is right.
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celticdragon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:02:46pm |
I’m tired and I need to hit the sack Goodnight all.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:03:46pm |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
Got it… listen the the second version of “Burn” I linked to, the app author used more overlaid tracks and video panels.
[Video]
that is just really cool
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:04:39pm |
Radio keep changing: fmqb.com
Don’t underestimate Bubba the Love Sponge, he’s as razor sharp as any of the best broadcasters in histroy
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:05:13pm |
re: #401 albusteve
that is just really cool
It really is… imagine having that kind of musical instrumentation in you handheld device?
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:05:50pm |
re: #389 Dark_Falcon
And that right there would be enough to catch the attention of the CIA. Given that a number of Somali-Americans have gone to Somalia to fight on behalf of Radical Islam, his interrogation (not the beating, but an interrogation) and placement on the ‘no-fly’ list seem warranted to me as a war measure.
Agreed, with the caveat that the government should repatriot citizens on the no-fly list if they’ve been placed on the list while overseas. Otherwise its defacto removal of citizenship without judicial oversight, and I’m not comfortable with that at all.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:05:52pm |
re: #389 Dark_Falcon
And that right there would be enough to catch the attention of the CIA. Given that a number of Somali-Americans have gone to Somalia to fight on behalf of Radical Islam, his interrogation (not the beating, but an interrogation) and placement on the ‘no-fly’ list seem warranted to me as a war measure.
So it would be the view that ANY Somali-Americans who travel to Somali should go on a no fly list?
Dark I don’t think thats what you meant, could you please re read what you wrote?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:06:31pm |
re: #403 Walter L. Newton
It really is… imagine having that kind of musical instrumentation in you handheld device?
bottom line, a bunch of guys actually play the damned thing…maybe there is hope after all
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:07:03pm |
re: #395 celticdragon
Don’t be stupid. Americans travel all over the world and visit Cuba and Yemen with no problems. What makes you think this is why he’s being tuned up by the Yemeni interrogators? There’s almost certainly more to the story that what Glenn Greenwald is telling you. If he’s innocent it’s a truly horrific ordeal but this is the consequence of shutting down the medically supervised interrogations by US interrogators. These people are now subjected to car batteries to their naughty bits with rusty jumper cables in a 3rd world country with no human rights laws. We tried but failed and this is what we have left. I’d much rather be a jihad suspect under Dubbya than Obama.
/Change!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:08:12pm |
re: #406 albusteve
bottom line, a bunch of guys actually play the damned thing…maybe there is hope after all
It certainly makes it easier than hauling a 420 pound B3 organ around… I did in the 70’s… took 4 people to move it into a club or hall.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:08:35pm |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
Don’t be stupid. Americans travel all over the world and visit Cuba and Yemen with no problems. What makes you think this is why he’s being tuned up by the Yemeni interrogators? There’s almost certainly more to the story that what Glenn Greenwald is telling you. If he’s innocent it’s a truly horrific ordeal but this is the consequence of shutting down the medically supervised interrogations by US interrogators. These people are now subjected to car batteries to their naughty bits with rusty jumper cables in a 3rd world country with no human rights laws. We tried but failed and this is what we have left. I’d much rather be a jihad suspect under Dubbya than Obama.
/Change!
yes, well said
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:09:16pm |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
If he’s innocent it’s a truly horrific ordeal but this is the consequence of shutting down the medically supervised interrogations by US interrogators. These people are now subjected to car batteries to their naughty bits with rusty jumper cables in a 3rd world country with no human rights laws. We tried but failed and this is what we have left. I’d much rather be a jihad suspect under Dubbya than Obama.
/Change!
Yes, because America doesn’t torture others will.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:10:11pm |
re: #298 rwmofo
Yes. Yes we are. Throw AP stories into that bucket as well.
So, who do you go to for your well-vetted news, then?
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:10:32pm |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
You do know these type of interrogations were common under the Bush admin as well right? For example, being deported from JFK airport to be tortured in Syria: en.wikipedia.org
Key bit:
The Syrian government shared the results of its investigation with the United States.[30] Arar believes that his torturers were given a dossier of specific questions by United States interrogators, noting that he was asked identical questions both in the United States and in Syria.[31]
Nice try though. Better luck on the next talking point.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:12:11pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:12:44pm |
re: #408 Walter L. Newton
It certainly makes it easier than hauling a 420 pound B3 organ around… I did in the 70’s… took 4 people to move it into a club or hall.
ah, the iconic B3…Billy Payne of Little Feat hauled his for decades until he finally gave up…Kohner and Yamaha were that good by then…but imo nothing sounds as good
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:13:09pm |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
Medically supervised interrogation? Would that be medically supervised so they can nearly kill you and then carefully revive you? That’s what the worst sort of serial killers do so they can prolong the pleasure of the kill. What kind of doctor would participate in that and why would you prefer it to any other sort of torture?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:13:39pm |
re: #406 albusteve
bottom line, a bunch of guys actually play the damned thing…maybe there is hope after all
dammit we gen-xers care as much about music as you do, you know ;-)
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:13:51pm |
re: #415 albusteve
ah, the iconic B3…Billy Payne of Little Feat hauled his for decades until he finally gave up…Kohner and Yamaha were that good by then…but imo nothing sounds as good
Well now… yes… that $1.99 Iphone app does.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:14:30pm |
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:15:20pm |
re: #398 albusteve
pretty obscure…I saw them many times
Before my concert-going days, unfortunately, although I saw Cub Koda solo at a small pub in Old Orchard Beach, Maine about 20 years ago. A lot of that one is lost in the fog of weed abuse, but as I recall he played all the well-known Brownsville stuff and quite a few old blues classics.
Damn shame they fell into obscurity.
“Never eat at a place called ‘EAT.’” — Cub Koda
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:15:28pm |
re: #416 calochortus
Medically supervised interrogation? Would that be medically supervised so they can nearly kill you and then carefully revive you? That’s what the worst sort of serial killers do so they can prolong the pleasure of the kill. What kind of doctor would participate in that and why would you prefer it to any other sort of torture?
Go ahead and take your chances with the Pakistani and Yemeni interrogators. Idon’tgiveafuckistan.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:15:33pm |
re: #417 WindUpBird
dammit we gen-xers care as much about music as you do, you know ;-)
yeah, I know that….all hail LIVE MUSIC!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:15:33pm |
re: #404 McSpiff
Agreed, with the caveat that the government should repatriot citizens on the no-fly list if they’ve been placed on the list while overseas. Otherwise its defacto removal of citizenship without judicial oversight, and I’m not comfortable with that at all.
That I can accept. He would need to pay for the cost of an armed air marshal escort, but I’d accept that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:15:48pm |
re: #415 albusteve
ah, the iconic B3…Billy Payne of Little Feat hauled his for decades until he finally gave up…Kohner and Yamaha were that good by then…but imo nothing sounds as good
it is kinda nifty that they’re getting close with amp and organ modelling
The real thing is the real thing, but if the simulation is pretty good and some kid with his VST instruments and his Ableton can get a love for the sound, awesome
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:16:01pm |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
Yeah, that’s pretty much it.
So logically the world would stop torturing if the USA could just get serious about torturing.
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:16:36pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and take your chances with the Pakistani and Yemeni interrogators. Idon’tgiveafuckistan.
How about we don’t condone or practice torture? Its ineffective at best.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:16:43pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:17:38pm |
re: #427 calochortus
How about we don’t condone or practice torture? Its ineffective at best.
I sorta assume that Kuwait has a bunch of puffed up junior fascist assholes running their security, I don’t think anything we do will change that :D
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:17:45pm |
re: #416 calochortus
Medically supervised interrogation? Would that be medically supervised so they can nearly kill you and then carefully revive you? That’s what the worst sort of serial killers do so they can prolong the pleasure of the kill. What kind of doctor would participate in that and why would you prefer it to any other sort of torture?
/ Theres something calming about knowing the pliers and hammers are sanitized.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:18:10pm |
re: #405 ozbloke
So it would be the view that ANY Somali-Americans who travel to Somali should go on a no fly list?
Dark I don’t think thats what you meant, could you please re read what you wrote?
Not all of them, but this guy also went Yemen to “study”. That’s normally a cover for terrorist training. Somalia by itself might not warrant action, but put the two together and the probabilities are too high not to act.
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:18:54pm |
re: #423 Dark_Falcon
That I can accept. He would need to pay for the cost of an armed air marshal escort, but I’d accept that.
Seems weird just letting them go home when they reach the US… but I guess being on the no fly list isn’t a criminal conviction.. place them under tight surveillance?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:18:55pm |
re: #425 WindUpBird
it is kinda nifty that they’re getting close with amp and organ modelling
The real thing is the real thing, but if the simulation is pretty good and some kid with his VST instruments and his Ableton can get a love for the sound, awesome
I’m a Hammond player from the 60’s… I know the Hammond sound, and that app is as close to modeling a real B3 than you could ever ask for.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:19:05pm |
I just sorta assume
that
THE FIFTH RICHEST COUNTRY ON EARTH
has thugs on airport security. Maybe that’s my prejudice :D
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:19:16pm |
re: #429 WindUpBird
I sorta assume that Kuwait has a bunch of puffed up junior fascist assholes running their security, I don’t think anything we do will change that :D
Even if we don’t change Kuwait’s behavior we can stand for something better.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:20:15pm |
Lizards, time to call it a day. Two things before I go though.
1. I really expected to get a few eeewww posts from my link to the cockroach recipe. I’m disappointed.
and
2. 24 hr rule (at least) about the dude being detained in Kuwait. There is more to this than has been released. Consider the source(s) and all that.
Night.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:20:49pm |
re: #425 WindUpBird
it is kinda nifty that they’re getting close with amp and organ modelling
The real thing is the real thing, but if the simulation is pretty good and some kid with his VST instruments and his Ableton can get a love for the sound, awesome
you can’t stop progress and I won’t try….kids and music is the important thing
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:21:07pm |
re: #434 Walter L. Newton
I’m a Hammond player from the 60’s… I know the Hammond sound, and that app is as close to modeling a real B3 than you could ever ask for.
awesome *_*
it’s funny, I’ve been playing drums for 20 years, I really have no instrument to fetishize, much as I’d like to, it’s just like “hey! Shit to bang on! Two kick drums! Mayhem!” I have a real kit, and an electronic kit, and both are useful and neither are really that different for what I do
I’m always sorta jealous of the really good guitarist with a story behind each of their instruments, I love rock mythology
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:22:16pm |
re: #426 ozbloke
So logically the world would stop torturing if the USA could just get serious about torturing.
Go ahead and write a letter to Yemen and ask then to stop torturing this fuckhead. It’s a waste of a stamp but go for it.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:22:29pm |
re: #426 ozbloke
So logically the world would stop torturing if the USA could just get serious about torturing.
We don’t need to use the crude tactics used in Yemen. Waterboarding is less damaging and more effective.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:22:30pm |
re: #436 calochortus
Even if we don’t change Kuwait’s behavior we can stand for something better.
Oh we can! Absolutely! But I just figure it comes with the territory of setting foot into Crazy Tiny Oil Nation With a Gazillion Dollars. It’s like going into another dimension.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:23:20pm |
re: #442 Dark_Falcon
We don’t need to use the crude tactics used in Yemen. Waterboarding is less damaging and more effective.
dude, sometimes you say things that sound REALLY WEIRD
(I’m not busting your balls, the tone you write with is just, um, often extremely alien to me)
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:23:37pm |
re: #432 Dark_Falcon
Not all of them, but this guy also went Yemen to “study”. That’s normally a cover for terrorist training. Somalia by itself might not warrant action, but put the two together and the probabilities are too high not to act.
I won’t down ding you, but Dark I really struggle with that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:23:50pm |
re: #441 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and write a letter to Yemen and ask then to stop torturing this fuckhead. It’s a waste of a stamp but go for it.
I updinged this for the purity of the voice of it
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:24:22pm |
re: #433 McSpiff
Seems weird just letting them go home when they reach the US… but I guess being on the no fly list isn’t a criminal conviction.. place them under tight surveillance?
Not too tight. Keeping surveillance too tight will mean that you never find out if they’re working with someone. Keep an eye on them, but don’t be obvious about it.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:24:27pm |
Going to take my Ipod Touch, go to bed, and play a little “Smoke on the Water” in bed… got to get up early tomorrow and go… wait… I got laid off… ok… well… I have to go to bed so I can get back up sometime.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:24:39pm |
re: #440 WindUpBird
awesome *_*
it’s funny, I’ve been playing drums for 20 years, I really have no instrument to fetishize, much as I’d like to, it’s just like “hey! Shit to bang on! Two kick drums! Mayhem!” I have a real kit, and an electronic kit, and both are useful and neither are really that different for what I do
I’m always sorta jealous of the really good guitarist with a story behind each of their instruments, I love rock mythology
so do I…I love studying the Delta blues and the anthology to where we are now….Memphis, Chicago etc…but it’s all tasty stuff
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:25:26pm |
re: #448 Walter L. Newton
Going to take my Ipod Touch, go to bed, and play a little “Smoke on the Water” in bed… got to get up early tomorrow and go… wait… I got laid off… ok… well… I have to go to bed so I can get back up sometime.
What?! Shit, sorry to hear that Walter…
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calochortus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:25:32pm |
re: #443 WindUpBird
Probably true. And I have no clue about what the guy was up to, if anything. I just get riled up at the idea that torture is OK.
Anyway, I think its time for me to turn in. ‘Night all.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:27:08pm |
I boycott Yemen for the horrific torture of this douchebag! I will not buy products manufactured in Yemen, I will not buy food produced in Yemen, I will cancel my vacation in Yemen and I will lobby to have Yemen removed from the Human Rights council of the UN.
/Derp
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:27:17pm |
re: #439 albusteve
you can’t stop progress and I won’t try…kids and music is the important thing
A funny thing about my favorite extreme industrial band skinny puppy, they started making horrifying and weird soundtracky-digital-hell music in the early 80’s
Now it’s the late 2000’s and the newest Skinny Puppy records have acoustic classical guitar on them!
Coming from my weird extreme music background, I have seen it happen may times, the berzerkly heavy metal band that starts off noisy, ends up beautiful after a few records, ends up with their sound drawing from the blues, or arias, or classical music, they sort of start extreme with their STATEMENT!! and then end up just falling in love with music in all its forms
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:27:28pm |
re: #442 Dark_Falcon
We don’t need to use the crude tactics used in Yemen. Waterboarding is less damaging and more effective.
Yes I think many countries have used it.
I do not accept that torture is effective, but you have heard all these arguments before.
Here you can have a down ding now.
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:28:25pm |
re: #447 Dark_Falcon
Not too tight. Keeping surveillance too tight will mean that you never find out if they’re working with someone. Keep an eye on them, but don’t be obvious about it.
Excellent point. So, am I writing up the proposal to the TSA or do you to get this one?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:28:27pm |
re: #445 ozbloke
I won’t down ding you, but Dark I really struggle with that.
I understand. I’m not saying we should waterboard this guy, BTW. But when this many warning signs go up, preventative measures have to be activated. Islamist terrorists are too dangerous to just wait.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:28:50pm |
I’ll just leave this song here for albusteve
it’s kind of a badass little blues rock tune :D
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:28:59pm |
re: #450 McSpiff
What?! Shit, sorry to hear that Walter…
Yea… this past Tuesday… laid off with recall, meaning I am on the list to be called back as soon as Kroger decides they are making enough money to need a few slaves called back.
Nothing I can do… it was a nine month haul, better than some of my past jobs over the last 5 years.
Not worried about it either. Got the paid for France trip coming up next Friday, and I can collect some of that stimulus that Nancy Pelosi says is so good for our country… the unemployment check.
| 460 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:29:17pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:30:32pm |
re: #441 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and write a letter to Yemen and ask then to stop torturing this fuckhead. It’s a waste of a stamp but go for it.
According to celticdragon I think it was Kuwait, not that it matters to you.
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:30:37pm |
re: #457 Dark_Falcon
I understand. I’m not saying we should waterboard this guy, BTW. But when this many warning signs go up, preventative measures have to be activated. Islamist terrorists are too dangerous to just wait.
Waterboarding and other physical forms of interrogation should be pretty friggin far down the list. The standard argument has always been ‘ticking time bomb’ scenario and I’m just not seeing any aspect of that to this case. Certainly doesn’t sound like this guy was a priority target.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:30:56pm |
re: #458 WindUpBird
I’ll just leave this song here for albusteve
[Video]it’s kind of a badass little blues rock tune :D
Clutch is just mighty.
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McSpiff Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:31:01pm |
re: #461 Walter L. Newton
Anyhow… night all.
Sounds like you got it under control. If I don’t run into you, have a lovely trip.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:33:44pm |
re: #457 Dark_Falcon
I understand. I’m not saying we should waterboard this guy, BTW. But when this many warning signs go up, preventative measures have to be activated. Islamist terrorists are too dangerous to just wait.
Ah, a preemptive strike.
A cunning plan…
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:34:47pm |
re: #462 ozbloke
According to celticdragon I think it was Kuwait, not that it matters to you.
Go ahead and change the zip code. Make s no difference.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:35:28pm |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and change the zip code. Make s no difference.
The stamp might be cheaper.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:35:36pm |
re: #456 McSpiff
Excellent point. So, am I writing up the proposal to the TSA or do you to get this one?
Send it to the FBI, instead. This is their baliwick, after all.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:38:03pm |
re: #464 makeitstop
Clutch is just mighty.
They really just keep making so much good music I can’t even believe it
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:39:25pm |
I think it’s pretty simple. Gulet Mohamed is an American citizen. He has not been charged with anything but is still being held in Kuwait. I can disregard his alleged treatment but as an American citizen he should at least be remanded to US custody until this matter is either cleared up or he is charged. Had he not been an American citizen this would be a different matter. Right now the USA should take Gulet Mohamed in custody.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:39:55pm |
re: #466 ozbloke
Ah, a preemptive strike.
A cunning plan…
Sometimes such tactics are needed. I don’t like them, but waiting for a clear indication of a specific target is sometimes not an option.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:40:39pm |
This could be dangerous
Just arrived at work and looks as if a client (better late than never) sent in a 4 POUND TIN of Danish Butter Cookies for the holidays,, 5 different varieties!
Lessee ,,, there’s a gallon of milk in the fridge,,, 4 LBs of cookies within my reach ,, and I’m here alone for the next 8 hours
YOU do the math!
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:41:10pm |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and change the zip code. Make s no difference.
I know its ridiculous to think that if the US puts some one on a no fly list, and they give that list to say some country that the USA defends in a war, and that guy is traveling on a US passport. I mean who wouldn’t expect that he could be tortured.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:41:59pm |
re: #471 Gus 802
I think it’s pretty simple. Gulet Mohamed is an American citizen. He has not been charged with anything but is still being held in Kuwait. I can disregard his alleged treatment but as an American citizen he should at least be remanded to US custody until this matter is either cleared up or he is charged. Had he not been an American citizen this would be a different matter. Right now the USA should take Gulet Mohamed in custody.
/ Ridiculous
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43:02pm |
re: #473 sattv4u2
I always eat the ones shaped like pretzels
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43:53pm |
re: #474 ozbloke
I know its ridiculous to think that if the US puts some one on a no fly list, and they give that list to say some country that the USA defends in a war, and that guy is traveling on a US passport. I mean who wouldn’t expect that he could be tortured.
I just sorta assume that everywhere besides Portland is completely insane :D
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:44:10pm |
re: #470 WindUpBird
They really just keep making so much good music I can’t even believe it
They’re touring with Motorhead. Playing Nokia (or Best Buy now) Theater NYC on the last day of Feb. I’m there, it’ll be my third time seeing them.
| 480 |
sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:44:16pm |
re: #476 WindUpBird
I always eat the ones shaped like pretzels
yeah ,, you can actually see the sugar chrystals on them
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:44:51pm |
re: #478 WindUpBird
I just sorta assume that everywhere besides Portland is completely insane :D
Gee ,, and the REST of the country sees it just the other way!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:46:39pm |
re: #479 makeitstop
They’re touring with Motorhead. Playing Nokia (or Best Buy now) Theater NYC on the last day of Feb. I’m there, it’ll be my third time seeing them.
FUUUUUUCK I want to be there
I’ve only seen Clutch once, here in Portland, and of course because they’re sweethearts they played Oregon for us :D
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:46:46pm |
re: #478 WindUpBird
I just sorta assume that everywhere besides Portland is completely insane :D
Dude—wrong side of the looking glass.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:47:11pm |
re: #481 sattv4u2
Gee ,, and the REST of the country sees it just the other way!
Man I keep looking around and seeing all the things we do better than the rest of the USA, and I can sorta understand their predicament :D
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:47:52pm |
re: #477 Gus 802
Yeah. That citizen stuff gets ya’ all the time.
//
Your a wild and crazy sorta guy - Steve Martin.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:48:33pm |
re: #483 EmmmieG
Dude—wrong side of the looking glass.
Bike lanes: check
Awesome mass transit: check
cheap rent: check
low cost of living: check
awesome music scene: check
awesome restaurant scene: check
great weed: check
drag racing: check
Floater: check
Will there be anything else? :D
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:48:41pm |
re: #484 WindUpBird
Man I keep looking around and seeing all the things we do better than the rest of the USA, and I can sorta understand their predicament :D
Do you DRIVE?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:49:38pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:49:40pm |
re: #487 WindUpBird
Will there be anything else? :D
More than a half a dozen days a year of sunshine might be nice!
| 491 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:50:20pm |
re: #488 EmmmieG
Do you DRIVE?
Occasionally! I have a really fast car that sits in the driveway most days because I work from home and it’s easier to take mass transit downtown to get trashed at a metal show.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:50:28pm |
re: #485 ozbloke
Your a wild and crazy sorta guy - Steve Martin.
It’s a little cornfusing. If he’s in custody by the “Kuwait CIA” then how did he communicate all of this information to his lawyer?
“OK, we’re not letting you go. We’ll beat and ‘torture’ you but we’ll let you phone home and tell everybody what we’ve been doing to you.”
| 493 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:51:24pm |
re: #490 sattv4u2
Will there be anything else? :D
More than a half a dozen days a year of sunshine might be nice!
THAT
uh you may have a point :D
Thankfully, I hate the sun and love rain, so my mossy ass is fine. Buuut it does chase away the sun worshippers, I know someone who moved here from california and got seasonal affective disorder
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:51:32pm |
re: #487 WindUpBird
Bike lanes: check
Horrible freeways: check
Awesome mass transit: check
I do agree.
cheap rent: check
If the rental market tracks the buying market, no.
low cost of living: check
awesome music scene: check
Wouldn’t know, but remember, the last place I lived is Austin, TX.
awesome restaurant scene: check
great weed: check
Again, wouldn’t know.
drag racing: check
She no cares.
Floater: check
????
Will there be anything else? :D
Yes, I would like freeways that aren’t insane, and a bridge that isn’t ancient.
And why did you not include Powells?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:52:22pm |
re: #492 Gus 802
It’s a little cornfusing. If he’s in custody by the “Kuwait CIA” then how did he communicate all of this information to his lawyer?
“OK, we’re not letting you go. We’ll beat and ‘torture’ you but we’ll let you phone home and tell everybody what we’ve been doing to you.”
See my take is he sorta got beat around by the bullies at the station, but they’re more cops than anything,t hey still want to be DONE with him. They’re not like a dungeon, they’re bored jerks with a kid they think needs to be beat up.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:53:21pm |
re: #495 WindUpBird
See my take is he sorta got beat around by the bullies at the station, but they’re more cops than anything,t hey still want to be DONE with him. They’re not like a dungeon, they’re bored jerks with a kid they think needs to be beat up.
Yeah. I was thinking that they probably beat everyone in Kuwati jails.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:53:24pm |
re: #492 Gus 802
It’s a little cornfusing. If he’s in custody by the “Kuwait CIA” then how did he communicate all of this information to his lawyer?
“OK, we’re not letting you go. We’ll beat and ‘torture’ you but we’ll let you phone home and tell everybody what we’ve been doing to you.”
I got no idea whether the story is true, I’m replying to those who would suggest what happened to him is ok if it happened like it’s been written.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:53:39pm |
Ah well
Gotta go
1) install some new equipment
2) write a report
3) attack the tin of butter cookies
(not necessarily in that order)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:54:02pm |
re: #494 EmmmieG
Yes, I would like freeways that aren’t insane, and a bridge that isn’t ancient.
And why did you not include Powells?
you rule :D How about that sellwood bridge? Pretty close to where I used to live, too
(and the reason is because I’m drinking and not thinking clearly)
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:54:38pm |
re: #482 WindUpBird
FUUUCK I want to be there
I’ve only seen Clutch once, here in Portland, and of course because they’re sweethearts they played Oregon for us :D
I saw them in a small club on LI last year. Completely no nonsense, they just come out, burn the house down and leave.
I want to see Motorhead again, too. I saw them for the first time last year but they had Matt Sorum playing drums because Mikkey Dee signed up for some reality show in Finland and couldn’t do the tour. Sorum was okay, but everything was too slow. I want to see the real lineup.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:54:50pm |
re: #496 Gus 802
Yeah. I was thinking that they probably beat everyone in Kuwati jails.
YES! Of course!
I’d almost be outraged if they didn’t!
“What? He was in a jail in a hyper rich oil nation and they baked him BROWNIES?!?”
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:55:00pm |
re: #487 WindUpBird
Bike lanes: check
Awesome mass transit: check
cheap rent: check
low cost of living: check
awesome music scene: check
awesome restaurant scene: check
great weed: check
drag racing: check
Floater: check
Will there be anything else? :D
no top-flight museums though, nor major league sports. But if you’re happy to live there (and its a good place, i agree) then I’m happy you’re happy).
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:55:27pm |
re: #499 WindUpBird
you rule :D How about that sellwood bridge? Pretty close to where I used to live, too
(and the reason is because I’m drinking and not thinking clearly)
I meant the I-5 bridge.
Coolness aside, if a bridge is a part of the major West Coast artery, it needs to be a little bigger.
(One of my clearest, sharpest memories is driving over the bridge with my grandparents. I remember this because my grandmother was driving 35, and I was thinking I wouldn’t live to see the other side of the bridge.)
| 504 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:55:33pm |
re: #500 makeitstop
I saw them in a small club on LI last year. Completely no nonsense, they just come out, burn the house down and leave.
I want to see Motorhead again, too. I saw them for the first time last year but they had Matt Sorum playing drums because Mikkey Dee signed up for some reality show in Finland and couldn’t do the tour. Sorum was okay, but everything was too slow. I want to see the real lineup.
can I tell you Mikkey Dee was the drummer at the first rock concert I ever saw?
Drumming…for Don Dokken :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:55:53pm |
re: #502 Dark_Falcon
no top-flight museums though, nor major league sports. But if you’re happy to live there (and its a good place, i agree) then I’m happy you’re happy).
What? We have thew Portland Trailblazers! Or does the NBA not count? :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:56:53pm |
re: #503 EmmmieG
I meant the I-5 bridge.
Coolness aside, if a bridge is a part of the major West Coast artery, it needs to be a little bigger.
(One of my clearest, sharpest memories is driving over the bridge with my grandparents. I remember this because my grandmother was driving 35, and I was thinking I wouldn’t live to see the other side of the bridge.)
yeha, that bridge is way too small *_* i’m used to it though, I only notice the psycho east-west river portland bridges that want me dead
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:57:24pm |
re: #505 WindUpBird
What? We have thew Portland Trailblazers! Or does the NBA not count? :D
The NBA counts
The JailBlazers don’t!
:)
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:57:26pm |
re: #505 WindUpBird
What? We have thew Portland Trailblazers! Or does the NBA not count? :D
Yeah, they count. I just had a memory failure is all.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:57:47pm |
re: #504 WindUpBird
can I tell you Mikkey Dee was the drummer at the first rock concert I ever saw?
Drumming…for Don Dokken :D
Rockin’ with Dokken! :-)
I saw a bunch of metal acts back in the day, but Dokken wasn’t one of them.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:58:25pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:58:59pm |
re: #502 Dark_Falcon
no top-flight museums though, nor major league sports. But if you’re happy to live there (and its a good place, i agree) then I’m happy you’re happy).
From the standpoint of a parent: OMSI compared at just a little lower than the Seattle Science Center, but higher than the Portland Telus Science Center. Foodwise, it was the only one with decent catering.
Our zoo is terrific, again, with good catering. The forestry center is smaller, but unique.
The Oregon Historical Society I thought highly of, although the Royal BC museum in Victoria was better.
I haven’t been to the Art museum recently, because I have active boys, but I remembered they had a selection of Northwest Indian art that I liked.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:59:04pm |
re: #509 makeitstop
Rockin’ with Dokken! :-)
I saw a bunch of metal acts back in the day, but Dokken wasn’t one of them.
They opened for Poison, wheee
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:59:17pm |
re: #511 EmmmieG
From the standpoint of a parent: OMSI compared at just a little lower than the Seattle Science Center, but higher than the Portland Telus Science Center. Foodwise, it was the only one with decent catering.
Our zoo is terrific, again, with good catering. The forestry center is smaller, but unique.
The Oregon Historical Society I thought highly of, although the Royal BC museum in Victoria was better.
I haven’t been to the Art museum recently, because I have active boys, but I remembered they had a selection of Northwest Indian art that I liked.
PACIFIC science center!
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:59:35pm |
re: #507 sattv4u2
The NBA counts
The JailBlazers don’t!
:)
Ouch.
As a Knick fan I can relate to an irrelevant team. It’s only now the Knicks are starting to get back a little respect.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:00:19pm |
re: #513 WindUpBird
PACIFIC science center!
Did I miss a word in the Seattle place? Oh, well, I just remember that although we enjoyed the exhibits, the catering was like open hostility to parents, and like the other two places, it’s not exactly located where it’s easy to get other food.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:00:22pm |
re: #512 WindUpBird
They opened for Poison, wheee
Yikes! That’s a couple of cases of hairspray right there.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:00:26pm |
re: #155 Slumbering Behemoth
WTF is this Bircher shill going on about? I haven’t seen, heard or read anything about the gov’t using invisible, Wonder Woman spy planes to kill those birds.
What I did see on the news, was that some scientists autopsied a large number of those birds and found internal injuries indicating blunt force trauma consistent with a flock of birds unfortunately getting caught in hail storm clouds.
And of course, he has to bring in the whole “AGW is a hoax, the world’s scientists are lying” garbage.
Gawt-damn, what an idiot.
He is just regurgitating stuff he heard on the Alex Jones show. Or, more recently, Coast to Coast AM:
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:00:35pm |
re: #497 ozbloke
I got no idea whether the story is true, I’m replying to those who would suggest what happened to him is ok if it happened like it’s been written.
Like I mentioned early regarding him being a US citizen. If he is innocent it send a very bad message to all naturalized Muslims in the USA. At the same time it’s a very confusing situation as noted. Attorneys tend to over dramatize things for their clients. Right now he’s lawyered up with a CAIR attorney and the ACLU. He is on currently on a no-fly-list which happened while he was in transit. The question seems to be whether he had met with Anwar al-Awlaki which he denies. I think it would be best for the USA to retain him in custody but fly him back to the USA.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:01:49pm |
re: #502 Dark_Falcon
no top-flight museums though, nor major league sports. But if you’re happy to live there (and its a good place, i agree) then I’m happy you’re happy).
I will say this: Portland is sort of a participatory town. It is not a destination city. If you make music or art or go out and Do Stuff and do community building and bar olympics and zany karaoke, then Portland is a cool town. But we don’t have Big City Draws, we’re not really a big city so much as a gigantic small town.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:02:11pm |
re: #514 makeitstop
Ouch.
As a Knick fan I can relate to an irrelevant team. It’s only now the Knicks are starting to get back a little respect.
Willis Reed
Gutsiest thing I ever saw
Even as a Boston born and raised lifelong Celtics fan, I had to tip my hat to him!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:02:14pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:03:19pm |
re: #515 EmmmieG
Did I miss a word in the Seattle place? Oh, well, I just remember that although we enjoyed the exhibits, the catering was like open hostility to parents, and like the other two places, it’s not exactly located where it’s easy to get other food.
it’s okay, it’s just that I grew up in Seattle and used to go to the Pacific Science Center for school events and later, LASER FLOYD and LASER RUSH and LASER ZEPPELIN and LASER (whoever else was popular)
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:03:43pm |
re: #520 sattv4u2
Willis Reed
Gutsiest thing I ever saw
Even as a Boston born and raised lifelong Celtics fan, I had to tip my hat to him!
Yeah, but Clyde actually won that game. He had a huge night that night.
But that footage of Willis coming out on the floor still gives me chills ever time.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:04:02pm |
I’m Afraid Of Americans
Youtube Video
/Namaste, y’all
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:04:18pm |
re: #522 WindUpBird
it’s okay, it’s just that I grew up in Seattle and used to go to the Pacific Science Center for school events and later, LASER FLOYD and LASER RUSH and LASER ZEPPELIN and LASER (whoever else was popular)
My cousin worked there. Met his wife there. Now she’s a science teacher and he’s getting his PhD in chemistry.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:04:31pm |
re: #522 WindUpBird
also, very important Pacific Science Center art nouveaou-ey sculpture things that mimic the space needle: Image: 0809SEA-008-011pan_Pacific-Science-Center.jpg
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:04:44pm |
re: #525 EmmmieG
My cousin worked there. Met his wife there. Now she’s a science teacher and he’s getting his PhD in chemistry.
They automatically win
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:05:35pm |
re: #525 EmmmieG
My cousin worked there. Met his wife there. Now she’s a science teacher and he’s getting his PhD in chemistry.
Tell them the kid from 1991 with the ratty queensryche t-shirt says hi, he really liked your science museum
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:06:11pm |
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:06:13pm |
re: #521 WindUpBird
Good show, though *_*
Poison was fun, definitely. Bret has been playing the NE extensively lately. A friend of mine booked a lot of the dates for him, but I haven’t gotten out to see him.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:10:11pm |
Totally OT: Reading the comment section about the birther protest. (I would put this on the right thread, but I’m sure it’s fairly dead by now.)
Some mouth-breathing cretin is stating that Obama can’t be a natural born citizen because his father was never a citizen.
Yeah, because, you know, we women, we’re just furniture.
(Why I do not read the comment section, exhibit A)
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:14:30pm |
Late evening/early morning fellow Lizards. Insomnia sucks. So it’s time to sit down with a cup of tea, some cats lying about, and read (or chat) until I get tired enough to sleep or it’s time to go to work.
| 534 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:18:38pm |
Heh. Not listening to the Nuge right now - actually listening to this.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:20:41pm |
re: #534 oaktree
Heh. Not listening to the Nuge right now - actually listening to this.
[Video]
Not really a Nuge fan. Just had a strange urge.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 10:21:39pm |
re: #531 EmmmieG
Totally OT: Reading the comment section about the birther protest. (I would put this on the right thread, but I’m sure it’s fairly dead by now.)
Some mouth-breathing cretin is stating that Obama can’t be a natural born citizen because his father was never a citizen.
)
wow
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 11:01:08pm |
11pm PDX time, my day is only about half over
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Michael Orion Powell Fri, Jan 7, 2011 9:13:06am |
There could be a really good segment somewhere about why newspapers are irrelevant. Alas, Glenn Beck is not the man to do it. This is beyond a mess. A mess at least can be cleaned up.
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