Giuliani Gearing Up for 2012?

PoliticsJanuary 2011 • Views: 40,450

Apparently he’s not going to let the total failure of his 2008 candidacy deter him: Rudy Giuliani gearing up for DC run.

Giuliani’s failure in 2008 wasn’t just due to strategic blunders; he played on his 9/11 experiences so much that for many people (myself included) he crossed the line into exploitation. That’s the image he’ll have to shake if he wants to have a chance at the presidency.

And he has some other huge problems, given the GOP’s current state of insanity — he’s pro-choice, not a creationist, and doesn’t deny the existence of human-caused global warming, and that’s a package of Tea Party deal breakers if I’ve ever seen one.

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182 comments

jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:28:04pm

He's pro-choice.

The base will squish him like a bug, end of story.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:28:07pm

I do not think that Giuliani would have been a viable primary candidate without 9/11, and if he couldn't get the primary last time, he can't get it now.

He's a multiply-divorced Italian Catholic from the big city. He's not workable right now.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:28:20pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

He's pro-choice.

The base will squish him like a bug, end of story.

That too.

Linden Arden Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:29:01pm

"There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11." -- Joe Biden, on Rudy Giuliani

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:29:36pm

Giuliani’s failure in 2008 wasn’t just due to strategic blunders; he played on his 9/11 experiences so much that for many people (myself included) he crossed the line into exploitation.

Rudy tried to run as a strong national security candidate. Since then the Republicans have turned their back on national security as an issue. They rants against the DHS, TSA, patriot act, and even common sense airport security screenings. Fox news now promotes 9-11 Truth conspiracy theories. Rudy hasn't got a chance in hell.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:30:29pm

All I can think of, when I think of Rudy running for prez is this epic post on balloon juice

jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:32:19pm

re: #6 Dreggas

All I can think of, when I think of Rudy running for prez is this epic post on balloon juice

Huh... you know I've been meaning to ask, there's a lot/at least some of derision /dislike of both Kos and Huffpo on this blog (I don't want to talk about if it is deserved or not) what is LGF's feelings on Balloon Juice?

Surabaya Stew Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:33:34pm

Remember his "I will appoint strict constitional judges only?" stichick? This from a (then) pro-gay rights, pro-choice, former mayor of millions of Liberials?

Fat chance, Rudy. Stay retired and leave us alone.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:36:50pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Huh... you know I've been meaning to ask, there's a lot/at least some of derision /dislike of both Kos and Huffpo on this blog (I don't want to talk about if it is deserved or not) what is LGF's feelings on Balloon Juice?

Personally I like Cole and Co. and have talked with Cole on a few occasions. I used to post there a lot but now I just read the entries for the most part.

bratwurst Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:37:25pm

A message to you, Rudy:

Stop your messing around!

Youtube Video

BishopX Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:41:07pm

Any bets on this turning park51 into a campaign issue? He might (unfortunately) get some mileage running against Muslims.

Surabaya Stew Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:41:17pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Huh... you know I've been meaning to ask, there's a lot/at least some of derision /dislike of both Kos and Huffpo on this blog (I don't want to talk about if it is deserved or not) what is LGF's feelings on Balloon Juice?

I used to post there when John Cole was making his epic switch to sanity and still read it from time to time. I just prefer the LGF experience better, primarrly due to Charles's heroic efforts in coding and oversight.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:43:00pm

re: #12 Surabaya Stew

I used to post there when John Cole was making his epic switch to sanity and still read it from time to time. I just prefer the LGF experience better, primarrly due to Charles's heroic efforts in coding and oversight.

The comments here beat constantly refreshing I have to say.

prairiefire Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:43:49pm

This is going to be so much fun.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:44:11pm

as usual, you all have it wrong...aside from voters in the densely populated east, he has no base to mollify, he will create his own...he is an extremely jovial and likable guy who has a reputation for as tough, get it done sort, that will take no shit from anybody and folks will thrive on his patriotism...he understands the economy and where to cut out the redundant fat...he is no rookie when it comes to the cameras and idiot pundits and will express supreme confidence on the circuit...people love his knack for a clever ripost and his easy smile....once he ramps up his "cocktail party" personna, folks will fall for him like a favorite neighbor....pro choice will be a reference to the Mets or Yankees and bad hair will be popular again...don't count Rudi out, the guy is super charged

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:44:23pm

re: #11 BishopX

Any bets on this turning park51 into a campaign issue? He might (unfortunately) get some mileage running against Muslims.

Maybe, but I really don't know if it can be brought back and turned into a national campaign issue.

Fenris Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:45:51pm

Bearing in mind that I'm speaking off of experiences from two years ago, Guiliani is one of those cases where if he did get the nomination, I might have voted for him. I'm honestly curious in which exact manner the new Party will throw him under the bus.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:47:03pm

re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe, but I really don't know if it can be brought back and turned into a national campaign issue.

it really is NOT going to be a campaign issue...way too hot, or maybe it's cooled off to ho hum status

jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:47:22pm

re: #17 fenrisdesigns

I'm honestly curious in which exact manner the new Party will throw him under the bus.

I'm guessing "repeatedly" what do I win?

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:49:11pm

Culturally speaking, Giuliani is the un-Palin.

He's screwed. I don't think they'll bring in an actual Palin for this one, but I do think the Republican nominee is going to need to be able to play an honest all-American ruralite a tad better.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:49:51pm

He's certainly to the left of Mitt Romney or ..as is being whispered,John Huntsman.

Surabaya Stew Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:49:53pm

re: #15 albusteve

as usual, you all have it wrong...aside from voters in the densely populated east, he has no base to mollify, he will create his own...he is an extremely jovial and likable guy who has a reputation for as tough, get it done sort, that will take no shit from anybody and folks will thrive on his patriotism...he understands the economy and where to cut out the redundant fat...he is no rookie when it comes to the cameras and idiot pundits and will express supreme confidence on the circuit...people love his knack for a clever ripost and his easy smile...once he ramps up his "cocktail party" personna, folks will fall for him like a favorite neighbor...pro choice will be a reference to the Mets or Yankees and bad hair will be popular again...don't count Rudi out, the guy is super charged

Before 2008 I used to think that way about Rudy too.

Then he went nuts.

And he lost the primaries badly.

Huckabee has a far better chance, IMHO.

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:50:29pm

If he's serious, I will bet he reverses his pro-choice stance.

jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:51:17pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

If he's serious, I will bet he reverses his pro-choice stance.

FLIP FLOPPER!

Does anybody know if he believes in global warming or evolution?

Fenris Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:51:29pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

If he's serious, I will bet he reverses his pro-choice stance.

Because we need two John McCains now.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:52:19pm

re: #22 Surabaya Stew

Before 2008 I used to think that way about Rudy too.

Then he went nuts.

And he lost the primaries badly.

Huckabee has a far better chance, IMHO.

Hackaby would be blown out in a one on one with Rudi

qubit2020 Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:52:23pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

FLIP FLOPPER!

Does anybody know if he believes in global warming or evolution?

He believes in his ambition.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:53:19pm

re: #20 SanFranciscoZionist

Culturally speaking, Giuliani is the un-Palin.

He's screwed. I don't think they'll bring in an actual Palin for this one, but I do think the Republican nominee is going to need to be able to play an honest all-American ruralite a tad better.

They don't have any of those, but plenty who play one on TV. I think the wingularity (scroll to Wingularity, The) would actually occur if Palin, Bachmann, Rudy, Gingrich, Romney, and Huckabee were all on the same stage for a debate at the same time.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:53:27pm

re: #26 albusteve

Hackabee that is

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:53:52pm

re: #27 qubit2020

He believes in his ambition.

everybody should...good point

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:54:12pm

is it 2008 again? really? Guiliani didn't get the picture last time?

prairiefire Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:54:35pm

Romney is currently ahead in New Hampshire:[Link: www.magellanstrategies.com...]

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:55:55pm

SFZ & Prairie (et al) check out the Mudflats today.

[Link: www.themudflats.net...]

Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:56:06pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

FLIP FLOPPER!

Does anybody know if he believes in global warming or evolution?

He's good on science. Not a creationist, doesn't deny global warming.

Another reason he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

Gus Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:56:21pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

I do not think that Giuliani would have been a viable primary candidate without 9/11, and if he couldn't get the primary last time, he can't get it now.

He's a multiply-divorced Italian Catholic from the big city. He's not workable right now.

Plus he got one of them there funny Eyetalian accents.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:56:36pm

re: #34 Charles

He's good on science. Not a creationist, doesn't deny global warming.

Another reason he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

he'll change those positions in a heartbeat as well.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:56:47pm

re: #32 prairiefire

Romney is currently ahead in New Hampshire:[Link: www.magellanstrategies.com...]

I think Mitt is probably the best candidate the Republicans can hope for at this point. It's pretty slim pickings from the current crop of candidates.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:57:05pm

re: #20 SanFranciscoZionist

Ruralite!!
One should never try to be a Ruralite unless they can ACTUALLY HIT THE BROADSIDE OF A BARN!
Is that what you meant?/

Fenris Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:57:54pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

FLIP FLOPPER!

Does anybody know if he believes in global warming or evolution?

Says Giuliani as of 2006: "Darwin’s theories are a very accepted part of science ... I am a Christian, and I can accommodate that to my beliefs."

He also seems to believe in AGW: "There is global warming. Human beings are contributing to it. I think the best answer to it is energy independence."

Bye-bye nomination.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:57:56pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Huh... you know I've been meaning to ask, there's a lot/at least some of derision /dislike of both Kos and Huffpo on this blog (I don't want to talk about if it is deserved or not) what is LGF's feelings on Balloon Juice?

I don't care for the rubbery aftertaste, but it will get you fucked up, so I guess it'll do in a pinch.

/wait, what?

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:58:07pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I think Mitt is probably the best candidate the Republicans can hope for at this point. It's pretty slim pickings from the current crop of candidates.

Multiple Mitt won't pass the test unless he suddenly decides he's no longer a mormon and kisses the decayed feet of Jerry Falwell declaring himself a new born again talibangelist.

Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:58:22pm

re: #38 reloadingisnotahobby

Ruralite!!
One should never try to be a Ruralite unless they can ACTUALLY HIT THE BROADSIDE OF A BARN!
Is that what you meant?/

He'll need Hillary's fake southern accent.
//

Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:58:56pm

Guiliani: No Big Tent For You!

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:59:51pm

re: #38 reloadingisnotahobby

Ruralite!!
One should never try to be a Ruralite unless they can ACTUALLY HIT THE BROADSIDE OF A BARN!
Is that what you meant?/

I have no opinions on whether impersonating them is OK--merely that part of Giuliani's problem is that he's too urban to play.

Although he may be a good shot.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:59:57pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I think Mitt is probably the best candidate the Republicans can hope for at this point. It's pretty slim pickings from the current crop of candidates.

especially when every other goofball tosses their hat in the ring, diluting and polluting...Mitt has the hair and the twinkle in his eye, remembering of course that experience and principle have nothing to do with it anymore

blueraven Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:00:07pm

re: #15 albusteve

as usual, you all have it wrong...aside from voters in the densely populated east, he has no base to mollify, he will create his own...he is an extremely jovial and likable guy who has a reputation for as tough, get it done sort, that will take no shit from anybody and folks will thrive on his patriotism...he understands the economy and where to cut out the redundant fat...he is no rookie when it comes to the cameras and idiot pundits and will express supreme confidence on the circuit...people love his knack for a clever ripost and his easy smile...once he ramps up his "cocktail party" personna, folks will fall for him like a favorite neighbor...pro choice will be a reference to the Mets or Yankees and bad hair will be popular again...don't count Rudi out, the guy is super charged

haha...good one!

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:00:45pm

re: #42 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've picked up a country drawl ...I CAN hit the broadside of a barn...
and I'm not a young earther!!
Should I throw in my Stetson??
///

jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:00:45pm

re: #35 Gus 802

Plus he got one of them there funny Eyetalian accents.

//

Bonjourno!

Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:01:36pm

re: #47 reloadingisnotahobby

I've picked up a country drawl ...I CAN hit the broadside of a barn...
and I'm not a young earther!!
Should I throw in my Stetson??
///

Don't forget your pouch of Red Man.:)

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:02:41pm

G-d dammit. Yahoo replaced the link to My Yahoo on their front page with a link to Yahoo en Espanol!!!!11ty. Now it's just like the phones telling me to press 1 for English!!!!11ty

Seriously, it is kind of annoying but it is funny when looked at from the wingnut point of view.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:02:46pm

re: #47 reloadingisnotahobby

I've picked up a country drawl ...I CAN hit the broadside of a barn...
and I'm not a young earther!!
Should I throw in my Stetson??
///

you have to be outside the barn Gomer

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:03:12pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

SFZ & Prairie (et al) check out the Mudflats today.

[Link: www.themudflats.net...]

What a beautiful tribute.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:03:21pm

re: #49 Cannadian Club Akbar

My hands are too calloused and my temper to short to ever be ...Political!

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:04:36pm

re: #51 albusteve

Funny story about that right there...
Has to do with hunting so I probably won't go there!LOL

Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:05:38pm

Gotta run for the night. Nice seeing ya'll again. Chat soon.

prairiefire Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:06:48pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

SFZ & Prairie (et al) check out the Mudflats today.

[Link: www.themudflats.net...]

OMG, Elizabeth Taylor. That was a wonderful tribute.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:07:25pm

Okay, now I'm getting real freakin' angry!

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:08:48pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, now I'm getting real freakin' angry!

all I can say is...WTF!!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:09:16pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #56 prairiefire

I'm really glad you read it. AKM writes a mean blog.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:09:32pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, now I'm getting real freakin' angry!

tall glass is skinnier....has to be

blueraven Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:09:59pm

re: #58 reloadingisnotahobby

all I can say is...WTF!!

Capitalism run amok!

sizzleRI Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:10:42pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

My first trip over, thank you it is awesome. And I can't help but cry every time I read daughter to mother tributes. I guess i always imagine what I would/should write to mine.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:10:59pm

speaking of Rudi...sounds like this show is picking up steam
[Link: marquee.blogs.cnn.com...]

8.45m must be a lot of people

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:11:38pm

re: #58 reloadingisnotahobby

Pretty nice scam, huh? Change the shape of the cup to appear larger while maintaining the same volume, and charge an extra $1.25 for it. Crafty assholes.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:11:58pm

re: #61 blueraven

Capitalism run amok!

I guess we should not say anything!
I don't want the STATE WEIGHTS AND MEASURES going into the bars!!

Ojoe Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:12:13pm

Guliani is of Italian extraction. THAT will be interesting, all the Berlusconi & Al Capone innuendoes.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:12:16pm

re: #61 blueraven

Capitalism run amok!

That's anarcho-capitalism to you, buddy.
/

Bob Dillon Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:12:17pm

The earth just moved under our feets here in Walnut Creek CA.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:12:57pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, now I'm getting real freakin' angry!

Now I plan to always get the small...

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:13:15pm

re: #68 Bobibutu

Pardon me....

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:13:43pm

re: #68 Bobibutu

Stay safe!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:13:49pm

re: #62 sizzleRI

My first trip over, thank you it is awesome. And I can't help but cry every time I read daughter to mother tributes. I guess i always imagine what I would/should write to mine.

You will definitely mention the orange nails!!!

Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:14:48pm

re: #68 Bobibutu

The earth just moved under our feets here in Walnut Creek CA.

A refinery blowing up in Pacheco?

sizzleRI Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:16:08pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

You will definitely mention the orange nails!!!

Hahaha, absolutely.

At my grandfather's funeral the eulogizer at one point mentioned how my grandfather loved any joke as long as it was "appropriate". I promised my mom that I would say she loved any joke as long as it was in poor taste.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:16:48pm

re: #68 Bobibutu

The earth just moved under our feets here in Walnut Creek CA.

Let us know when the sky comes a tumblin down...K?
Stay in the door way for a while.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:17:50pm

re: #68 Bobibutu

The earth just moved under our feets here in Walnut Creek CA.

whoa...hang on....arms out, knees slightly bent

Ojoe Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:18:03pm

re: #75 reloadingisnotahobby

I'm about 130 mi from Walnut Creek & no motion here. It's not The Big One, at any rate.

Bob Dillon Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:18:44pm

re: #73 BigPapa

A refinery blowing up in Pacheco?

One would think a sonic boom would accompany that event. This was just an east to west shaker.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:18:45pm

re: #75 reloadingisnotahobby

Of course you know, I now must link this.

Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:18:49pm

re: #77 Ojoe

I'm about 130 mi from Walnut Creek & no motion here. It's not The Big One, at any rate.

I'm about 2319.198 miles from Walnut Creek, nothing here. It's hot though.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:19:34pm

re: #79 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL!!
YES indeed!

Ojoe Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:19:50pm

Extra cool Towercam, with shadow stripes on the Mountains. San Gabriel Range, Pacific time zone.

BBL

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:21:09pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, now I'm getting real freakin' angry!

At the Mastodon/Alice in Chains show, a cup of beer (loooked to be about 16 oz) was TEN DOLLARS

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:21:15pm

re: #80 BigPapa

Watch for the Tsunami Brah!!

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:22:04pm

re: #84 reloadingisnotahobby

Watch for the Tsunami Brah!!

P.S. say yo to Dog for me ...Stupid F'ER will NEVER find me!

webevintage Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:22:33pm

re: #6 Dreggas

All I can think of, when I think of Rudy running for prez is this epic post on balloon juice

hahahahahaha
That is epic.

I read 3 places everyday.
BJ for the pet pic and epic rants.
Wonkette for the crazy.
and here for sanity and the occasional Twitter fun.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:23:55pm

re: #82 Ojoe

Extra cool Towercam, with shadow stripes on the Mountains. San Gabriel Range, Pacific time zone.

BBL

Nice shot!!
By the way...I love your Jacuzzi Topper dude!

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:24:05pm

re: #83 WindUpBird

Same thing at the Black Sabbath show I saw in SJ. Fuck that shit, gawt-damned highway robbers.

I get drunk in the parking lot.

Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:24:28pm

re: #34 Charles

He's good on science. Not a creationist, doesn't deny global warming.

Another reason he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

A "snowball's chance in hell." What kind of science is that? A snowball has no chance in hell, the physics are impossible.

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:25:50pm

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

A "snowball's chance in hell." What kind of science is that? A snowball has no chance in hell, the physics are impossible.

Excuse me!!
Earth is warming therefore hell is cooling!
Give it TIME!!/

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:26:51pm

BreakingNews

Bay Area quake update: Magnitude raised to 4.1 - usgs.gov [Link: bit.ly...]

Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:28:11pm

I'll have to call Ma in Dublin and check on her.

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:29:00pm

re: #79 Slumbering Behemoth

Of course you know, I now must link this.

funny stuff, now I'll do some surfin

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:29:12pm

re: #92 BigPapa

Ireland??
It's a 4.1 man!
/

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:30:18pm

BreakingNews

Bay Area quake update: Magnitude now revised downward to 2.1 - usgs.gov [Link: bit.ly...]

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:30:41pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

BreakingNews

Bay Area quake update: Magnitude now revised downward to 2.1 - usgs.gov [Link: bit.ly...]

wha? Come on guys!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:32:43pm

re: #92 BigPapa

I'll have to call Ma in Dublin and check on her.

She's fine, but you should still call sonny.

Linden Arden Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:32:50pm

re: #86 webevintage

You like Wonkette?

I was in the middle of the Reason/Wonkette blog war!

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:32:52pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

It's like the ambient temp and chill factor...It was a 2.1 but it FELT like a 4.1!

100

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:33:00pm

The bird was placed under arrest [Link: www.projo.com...]

101

albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:33:03pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

wha? Come on guys!

come on where?...what do you want?

102

sagehen Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:33:14pm

re: #21 reloadingisnotahobby

He's certainly to the left of Mitt Romney or ..as is being whispered,John Huntsman.

John Huntsman is a great 2016 choice, but I don't see how he could do 2012.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:33:29pm

Ok, this is pretty fucked up MSNBC Breaking News!

BreakingNews

Quake correction: 4.1 magnitude quake was followed by 2.6, 2.1 aftershocks - usgs.gov [Link: bit.ly...]

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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:34:42pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

She's fine, but you should still call sonny.

Ever here of a starquake?
We detected one on a neutron star at magnitude 32.
Asteroid that killed the dinos, magnitude 12.5
Scary, no?

105

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:34:44pm

re: #88 Slumbering Behemoth

Same thing at the Black Sabbath show I saw in SJ. Fuck that shit, gawt-damned highway robbers.

I get drunk in the parking lot.

I actually rarely drink at rock shows that aren't at tiny clubs, it just sorta fatigues me :P

Now, when it's some weird industrial act and there's only 80 people in the joint and you can just sorta hang out and drink cheap well drinks, then I'm game

106

reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:35:03pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

Ok, this is pretty fucked up MSNBC Breaking News!

BreakingNews

Quake correction: 4.1 magnitude quake was followed by 2.6, 2.1 aftershocks - usgs.gov [Link: bit.ly...]

All kidding aside!Holy Shitsky!
Hope everyone is safe!!

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albusteve Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:35:23pm

re: #102 sagehen

John Huntsman is a great 2016 choice, but I don't see how he could do 2012.

as I see it, he has to run in 012 just to try and inject some decency and common sense into the GOP

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Bob Dillon Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:35:28pm

re: #92 BigPapa

I'll have to call Ma in Dublin and check on her.

Epicenter SW San Jose - that was more than a 2 pointer. We are 50 miles NNW and got movement. 2 pointers in the Bay Area ya don't even notice.

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webevintage Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:35:39pm

re: #98 Linden Arden

You like Wonkette?

I was in the middle of the Reason/Wonkette blog war!

I think Wonkette is hi-larious somedays....

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:36:15pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

BreakingNews

Bay Area quake update: Magnitude raised to 4.1 - usgs.gov [Link: bit.ly...]

I didn't feel a thing, right here in West Contra Costa.

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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:36:17pm

Ignore my typos...
;)

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:36:27pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Yes!!
The things you keep in that big brain of yours...Scary!
LOL

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Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:37:07pm

re: #108 Bobibutu

Epicenter SW San Jose - that was more than a 2 pointer. We are 50 miles NNW and got movement. 2 pointers in the Bay Area ya don't even notice.

4.1 in SJ and you felt it in WC? That's odd. Or maybe you have sensitive feets!

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:37:13pm

re: #109 webevintage

I think Wonkette is hi-larious somedays...

I love Wonkette. Love it.

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Obdicut Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:37:51pm

re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist

4.1 is not a hell of a lot. That'll barely knock over a precarious coffeecup.

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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:38:26pm

re: #112 reloadingisnotahobby

Yes!!
The things you keep in that big brain of yours...Scary!
LOL

If that quake occurred on a star within 10 light years of the earth...
Mass extinctions.
The Universe is trying to kill us!
:P

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:38:33pm

15 km (10 miles) E (90°) from Seven Trees, CA
17 km (10 miles) ESE (121°) from Alum Rock, CA
18 km (11 miles) N (354°) from Morgan Hill, CA
21 km (13 miles) ESE (106°) from San Jose City Hall, CA

(actually, this is already too many posts for a 4.1, let's save it for my live blog of a biggie - if internet connection survives)

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Bob Dillon Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:39:31pm

re: #108 Bobibutu

Epicenter SW San Jose - that was more than a 2 pointer. We are 50 miles NNW and got movement. 2 pointers in the Bay Area ya don't even notice.

Correction - Epi - SE San Jose - towards Morgan Hill.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:40:01pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

If that quake occurred on a star within 10 light years of the earth...
Mass extinctions.
The Universe is trying to kill us!
:P

I don't blame it!

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:40:30pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

15 km (10 miles) E (90°) from Seven Trees, CA
17 km (10 miles) ESE (121°) from Alum Rock, CA
18 km (11 miles) N (354°) from Morgan Hill, CA
21 km (13 miles) ESE (106°) from San Jose City Hall, CA

(actually, this is already too many posts for a 4.1, let's save it for my live blog of a biggie - if internet connection survives)

True. But like my mom always says, an earthquake didn't really happen until you talk it over.

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Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:40:40pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

15 km (10 miles) E (90°) from Seven Trees, CA
17 km (10 miles) ESE (121°) from Alum Rock, CA
18 km (11 miles) N (354°) from Morgan Hill, CA
21 km (13 miles) ESE (106°) from San Jose City Hall, CA

2384 miles from Kona, HI

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:40:52pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Well" Mr. Universe" can just get to the back of the line pilgrim!!
...That was not actually John Wayne but an actor....etc

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:41:14pm

re: #121 BigPapa

2384 miles from Kona, HI

You still are calling your Mom, right?

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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:41:33pm

re: #115 Obdicut

4.1 is not a hell of a lot. That'll barely knock over a precarious coffeecup.

True, but if it's shallow and close, it will sound like a truck hit your house.

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Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:42:15pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

You still are calling your Mom, right?

Of course! She felt it before Bobitu, way before, maybe 7 or 8 seconds.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:42:50pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

True, but if it's shallow and close, it will sound like a truck hit your house.

In the building I'm living in now, all noticeable quakes feel exactly like someone backing into the building with a vehicle.

It's weird. Very jolty, almost no shake.

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:42:58pm

He doesn't have a chance if you ask me. He ran an awful campaign last time and I see no reason why he would do better this time. Rudy's social views if they came up would kill him in critical primary/caucus states like Iowa, South CArolina, and others.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:43:47pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

re: #121 BigPapa

2384 miles from Kona, HI

Nobody told me there was going to be math!!

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:44:03pm

The last Quake I remember in cali...the side walks had waves
rippling toward us....Awe struck!

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Bob Dillon Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:44:09pm

re: #113 BigPapa

4.1 in SJ and you felt it in WC? That's odd. Or maybe you have sensitive feets!

The specific fault line runs just east of SJ up under the I-680 and ends just south of WC.

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:44:57pm

Someone needs to tell Rudy G. that if we wants to even have a shot at it in 2012, he might want to start his campaign in Iowa, and not wait until Florida like he did in 2008. I still to this day can not think what the G's campaign was thinking when the made that "decision."

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:45:21pm

re: #129 reloadingisnotahobby

The last Quake I remember in cali...the side walks had waves
rippling toward us...Awe struck!

How many times did I tell you back then

DON'T EAT THE BROWN ACID!!

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:46:24pm

re: #132 sattv4u2

You never said anything about the Shrooms dude!

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sagehen Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:48:55pm

re: #115 Obdicut

4.1 is not a hell of a lot. That'll barely knock over a precarious coffeecup.

Do I remember that you're a former Californian, now a New Yorker? 4.1 in these parts is HUUUUGGE, we've got a different kind of bedrock that transmits much more efficiently.

Are you aware there's a fault-line running under 125th St? Pre-war buildings are unreinforced masonry; a 4.1 here would be devastating.

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:48:57pm

I just can't see his national security issues working with a Republican base that wants a strong social conservative. Remember, there was going to be mass fury when it was rumored McCain may have chosen Tom Ridge as his running mate. Ridge like Rudy is pro choice and more open to gun control than your average Republican and had strong national security creds.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:53:54pm

re: #131 Kid A

Most of these people that run nowadays KNOW they have no shot at it. Look at list of both the Repubs and Dems for 2008

You really think Kucinich and Gravel thought they could outdo Hillary or Pres. Obama or even Biden?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

You really think Gilmore or Brownback thought they could compete against McCain or Romney?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

What these people want is two things, imho

A) exposure, which helps their future tries for any office, especially financially
B) a seat at the table,, a voice ,,

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:54:14pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I just can't see his national security issues working with a Republican base that wants a strong social conservative. Remember, there was going to be mass fury when it was rumored McCain may have chosen Tom Ridge as his running mate. Ridge like Rudy is pro choice and more open to gun control than your average Republican and had strong national security creds.

Rudy has no platform without 9/11. We've healed quite a bit.

Although, this is really going to be a popcorn primary. I just don't see any good front runner who's sane.

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:56:11pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

let's save it for my live blog of a biggie - if internet connection survives)

LOL ...Damn Stanley hold still...your video camera's shaking and we can't see the EARTH QUAKE!!...Doh!

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:56:59pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I was one that thought the Baggers were only about the fiscal stuff until as the election got closer and closer, they couldn't keep the social stuff inside themselves any longer, and opened the door wide open for all to see. I -mistakenly - thought a lot of the racial/gay animus was isolated to a few of the kooks.

But as I listened and watched more and more, the hypocrisy was striking since no one was doing any of the protests, and rallies, etc. when Bush was president. I then knew it was about Obama all along. I tried to deny it, but there's no other real explanation. I bet that if Obama were to lose in 2012, the Baggers will pack up, go home, never to be heard from again.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:57:27pm

re: #138 reloadingisnotahobby

let's save it for my live blog of a biggie - if internet connection survives)

LOL ...Damn Stanley hold still...your video camera's shaking and we can't see the EARTH QUAKE!!...Doh!

The camera is steady
It's your head twitch bobbing thats causing that

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:57:33pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

Rudy has no platform without 9/11. We've healed quite a bit.

Although, this is really going to be a popcorn primary. I just don't see any good front runner who's sane.

Yeah I don't see any Republican front runner who is sane either. I agree wqith about Rudy and 9-11. And I would also add that his focus on national security isn't going to help him with Republican primary voters who are mainly angry at the Obama administration's economic and social policies. Rudy going on about how the administration has weakened the country's security may reasonate with some but it's not going to get him far.

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Obdicut Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:58:23pm

re: #134 sagehen

Yep. I'm a former San Franciscan.

Man, yeah, it looks like this area really hasn't had any real activity in quite awhile.

[Link: neic.usgs.gov...]

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:58:27pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Rudy going on about how the administration has weakened the country's security may reasonate with some but it's not going to get him far.

Couldn't agree more.

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Kronocide Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:58:47pm

Rudy's only hope is if he blames 9/11 on Obama.

Sadly he is about the only relatively sane GOPer there is.

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:59:41pm

re: #140 sattv4u2

Oh sure...Pick on the guy with Turrets...meanie!!

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:02:03pm

re: #139 Kid A

I was one that thought the Baggers were only about the fiscal stuff until as the election got closer and closer, they couldn't keep the social stuff inside themselves any longer, and opened the door wide open for all to see. I -mistakenly - thought a lot of the racial/gay animus was isolated to a few of the kooks.

But as I listened and watched more and more, the hypocrisy was striking since no one was doing any of the protests, and rallies, etc. when Bush was president. I then knew it was about Obama all along. I tried to deny it, but there's no other real explanation. I bet that if Obama were to lose in 2012, the Baggers will pack up, go home, never to be heard from again.

I knew they were full of crap because honestly these were some of the biggest social conservative candidates I've seen in my years following politics. I recited this andecote earlier today but a friend of mine asked a Tea Party candidate how he could claim to be a supporter of individual rights and stuff while supporting our state's effort to ban gay marriage. If I recall, KEith Finian also opposed civil unions as well.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:02:10pm

re: #138 reloadingisnotahobby

let's save it for my live blog of a biggie - if internet connection survives)

LOL ...Damn Stanley hold still...your video camera's shaking and we can't see the EARTH QUAKE!!...Doh!

Basically the whole reason I signed up for twitter. For ME to become the news by reporting it!!! Now I love it for the fast info received.

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:04:03pm

Ya know I don't even think George W. Bush could be nominated by the Republican party as it stands today. His views on immigration would be a huge dealbreaker.

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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:05:47pm

Time to make dinner!
A friend came home from Alaska with 1200 lbs of Salmon and Halibut!!
I think he has 5 freezers plugged in!
Damn!

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:05:52pm

Here's a clip of Bachmann (R-Mars) and Lips (Glenn Beck) on Freakazoid's radio show today going on about debt ceilings and her ~~absolutely no fucking way in hell Americans would vote for this stupid ahem~~ chances against the GOP/Obama in 2012.
Your text to link...

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:06:12pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Ya know I don't even think George W. Bush could be nominated by the Republican party as it stands today. His views on immigration would be a huge dealbreaker.

Hard to tell. Right now they're flailing around insisting they'll be more hard core than anyone, but honestly, the Religious Right fell in line for decades behind Republican candidates who were never, never going to give them what they wanted, and I think the People of the Tea will do the same.

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prairiefire Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:06:19pm

re: #113 BigPapa

4.1 in SJ and you felt it in WC? That's odd. Or maybe you have sensitive feets!

I had an excellent filet at a restaurant right on the water the last time we were in Kona. Then we watched the eels come out for their evening meal.

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:08:13pm

re: #151 SanFranciscoZionist

Hard to tell. Right now they're flailing around insisting they'll be more hard core than anyone, but honestly, the Religious Right fell in line for decades behind Republican candidates who were never, never going to give them what they wanted, and I think the People of the Tea will do the same.

I think you're right I guess. I guess my point is that I don't see how Bush could be nominated in today's atmosphere but then again I thought McCain would have never been nominated in 2008 given how much hositilty I saw him from the right.

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compound idaho Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:09:47pm

re: #142 Obdicut

"Only fools, charlatans and liars predict earthquakes." -- Charles Richter

However,

"The greatest lesson of life is that even fools are right sometimes."
-- Winston Churchill

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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:11:19pm

In 2012, we should live blog the end of the world.

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:12:56pm

re: #155 Varek Raith

I'm in!

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:13:24pm

I'm taking my first shot at making homemade sourdough bread. I think I discovered a shortcut and I'm trying a homemade 24 hour sourdough starter. Let's hope this works.

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:15:08pm

I also dug some salsify from the garden today and I'll have roasted salsify with my fried fish. I'll make a page out it this weekend. The stalkers love my gardening posts.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:16:12pm

re: #151 SanFranciscoZionist

Hard to tell. Right now they're flailing around insisting they'll be more hard core than anyone, but honestly, the Religious Right fell in line for decades behind Republican candidates who were never, never going to give them what they wanted, and I think the People of the Tea will do the same.

You know what I love? It seems like Sr. Sarah's reality show killed her chances. :)

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MarkAM Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:17:17pm

For all his "moderation," Giuliani scares the crap out of me. His ego is boundless; his personality is authoritarian (as evidenced by many of his behaviors as mayor including but not limited to his flirtation with canceling the '01 election;) and his judgment and connections are questionable (Kerik is the tip of the iceberg.)

Fortunately, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell. . .

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:18:08pm

OK, random info here. I'm sooo behind in new music, I fail big time.

Just listening to John Mayer & Herbie Hancock "Stitched Up" for the first time.

Holy shit, what a song.

(thought I'd share)

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:21:42pm

re: #160 MarkAM

For all his "moderation," Giuliani scares the crap out of me. His ego is boundless; his personality is authoritarian (as evidenced by many of his behaviors as mayor including but not limited to his flirtation with canceling the '01 election;) and his judgment and connections are questionable (Kerik is the tip of the iceberg.)

Fortunately, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell. . .

His negatives are apocalyptic, there's no way he would survive a primary

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BryanS Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:22:52pm

re: #160 MarkAM

For all his "moderation," Giuliani scares the crap out of me. His ego is boundless; his personality is authoritarian (as evidenced by many of his behaviors as mayor including but not limited to his flirtation with canceling the '01 election;) and his judgment and connections are questionable (Kerik is the tip of the iceberg.)

Fortunately, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell. . .

Of course then there's the cross dressing. Yes, he and J. Edgar Hoover have a lot in common :)

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:23:22pm

Here's some good 'ol fashion' Obama bashin' courtesy of Hot Air. This is in response to the woman in Alaska who can see Russia from her front porch on Laura Ingraham's radio show today where she basically said that Obama hates the country and might as well be the devil himself.

1.) Obama hates this country, and it’s high time that conservatives start beating him over the head about it.

BuckeyeSam

2.) And by the way … Obama has two plans … “A” and “B” …

PLAN A is to transform America into the Socialist paradise he believes in – a nation ruled by men instead of laws.

failing that …

PLAN B is to weaken America to the point that his buddies, Bill Ayers et al, can make the transformation themselves in the streets.

Either plan calls for a WEAKENED AMERICA – since a strong America under the status quo – does not transform the nation – but maintain the capitalist status quo.

HondaV65

3.) Top Down, Bottom Up, Inside Out.

Plus, Soro’s is egging Obama on the path of economic destruction.

Kini

4.) Obama’s father hated this Country. It drove him back to Kenya. Little Barry blames America for his father leaving their family and is enjoying bringing us to our knees as revenge.

portlandon

5.) YES, Obama hates America. He hates everything that has made America great. This is a dipsh!t who says our Constitution is “fundamentally flawed” and America must have “fundamental change.”

In Texas you used to see a lot of bumper stickers that said “America, Love It Or Leave It” It’s time for Obama to GO!

gary4205

WOW! But the Baggers are only about fiscal responsibility and getting rid of all the debt, right? FAIL.

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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:25:01pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I also dug some salsify from the garden today and I'll have roasted salsify with my fried fish. I'll make a page out it this weekend. The stalkers love my gardening posts.

Let them eat kale!

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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:25:45pm

re: #165 Floral Giraffe

Let them eat kale!

That was a funny night.

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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:29:10pm

re: #164 Kid A

Here's some good 'ol fashion' Obama bashin' courtesy of Hot Air. This is in response to the woman in Alaska who can see Russia from her front porch on Laura Ingraham's radio show today where she basically said that Obama hates the country and might as well be the devil himself.

1.) Obama hates this country, and it’s high time that conservatives start beating him over the head about it.

BuckeyeSam

2.) And by the way … Obama has two plans … “A” and “B” …

PLAN A is to transform America into the Socialist paradise he believes in – a nation ruled by men instead of laws.

failing that …

PLAN B is to weaken America to the point that his buddies, Bill Ayers et al, can make the transformation themselves in the streets.

Either plan calls for a WEAKENED AMERICA – since a strong America under the status quo – does not transform the nation – but maintain the capitalist status quo.

HondaV65

3.) Top Down, Bottom Up, Inside Out.

Plus, Soro’s is egging Obama on the path of economic destruction.

Kini

4.) Obama’s father hated this Country. It drove him back to Kenya. Little Barry blames America for his father leaving their family and is enjoying bringing us to our knees as revenge.

portlandon

5.) YES, Obama hates America. He hates everything that has made America great. This is a dipsh!t who says our Constitution is “fundamentally flawed” and America must have “fundamental change.”

In Texas you used to see a lot of bumper stickers that said “America, Love It Or Leave It” It’s time for Obama to GO!

gary4205

WOW! But the Baggers are only about fiscal responsibility and getting rid of all the debt, right? FAIL.

The stupid, it hurts. :) Seriously, they can question his policies all they want but to actually question the president's love of hte country is simply pathetic and they know it.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:30:56pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

What is so fucked up is these people, due to the Limbaugh and Beckster believe this to be true.

I get so disgusted. No one really talks about Bush bashing anymore do they?

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:36:13pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Agreed. I disagree with Obama about a lot of things. His lack of leadership on DADT; no end in sight for Afghanistan; his lack of "feel" in his management style the first two years. But my god, I don't HATE the man! You should go to some of these blogs (oh, and the left-leaning blogs don't get a pass either. Some of the stuff they wrote about Bush was mind-boggling) and read these vapid, vile comments. Sometimes I just want to point my finger at it, laugh, and move on. But honestly, I can't laugh at it anymore. I guess what a great country we live in where you can be as uneducated as possible, hate everything in sight, and call yourself a "Real American." Pass the barf bag, please.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:41:04pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I also dug some salsify from the garden today and I'll have roasted salsify with my fried fish. I'll make a page out it this weekend. The stalkers love my gardening posts.

They do, strange to say.

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William of Orange Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:44:05pm

Everybody spits him out. He was one of the first quitters in last presidential race. Besides, he suffers from a severe case of Gilles de la 9/11.

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:49:02pm

I don't know if any of you read Nate Silver's 538 blog over at nytimes.com, but, as usual, Nate is right on the money about the G.
Your text to link...

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prairiefire Fri, Jan 7, 2011 6:05:47pm

re: #147 Stanley Sea

Basically the whole reason I signed up for twitter. For ME to become the news by reporting it!!! Now I love it for the fast info received.

I hope I am a little old lady when Stanley posts about the big one. re: #159 Stanley Sea

You know what I love? It seems like Sr. Sarah's reality show killed her chances. :)

You are right. Those 20% floater Independents did not like what they saw.

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prairiefire Fri, Jan 7, 2011 6:10:22pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

What is so fucked up is these people, due to the Limbaugh and Beckster believe this to be true.

I get so disgusted. No one really talks about Bush bashing anymore do they?

Bush had Andrew Card calling journalists up to tell them it was illegal to speak ill about the president.

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Lidane Fri, Jan 7, 2011 6:24:54pm

Noun + Verb + 9/11 = Rudy Giuliani

Plus, the pro-choice stance automatically disqualifies him, especially with the current GOP base, who are dominated by the Tea Party.

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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Fri, Jan 7, 2011 6:44:19pm

re: #175 Lidane

You forgot that he sides with those dastardly gays.

///

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sagehen Fri, Jan 7, 2011 7:07:31pm

re: #164 Kid A

Here's some good 'ol fashion' Obama bashin' courtesy of Hot Air. This is in response to the woman in Alaska who can see Russia from her front porch on Laura Ingraham's radio show today where she basically said that Obama hates the country and might as well be the devil himself.

5.) YES, Obama hates America. He hates everything that has made America great. This is a dipsh!t who says our Constitution is “fundamentally flawed” and America must have “fundamental change.”

WOW! But the Baggers are only about fiscal responsibility and getting rid of all the debt, right? FAIL.

If it wasn't fundamentally flawed... why did the big Official Reading need to leave out all the parts that were so awful they needed to later be removed or altered?

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palomino Fri, Jan 7, 2011 11:33:32pm

re: #15 albusteve

as usual, you all have it wrong...aside from voters in the densely populated east, he has no base to mollify, he will create his own...he is an extremely jovial and likable guy who has a reputation for as tough, get it done sort, that will take no shit from anybody and folks will thrive on his patriotism...he understands the economy and where to cut out the redundant fat...he is no rookie when it comes to the cameras and idiot pundits and will express supreme confidence on the circuit...people love his knack for a clever ripost and his easy smile...once he ramps up his "cocktail party" personna, folks will fall for him like a favorite neighbor...pro choice will be a reference to the Mets or Yankees and bad hair will be popular again...don't count Rudi out, the guy is super charged

You're dead wrong. Where was any of this super Rudy back in 2008? If he didn't show up then, why now? No reason to think things will be any different if he runs now; he's just four years less relevant.

As for being pro-choice, it's a dealbreaker in the gop. And the base thought McCain was too moderate. They'll self-combust over a pro-choicer.

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Wozza Matter? Sat, Jan 8, 2011 6:40:34am

maybe if he announces early this time he'll remember to campiagn before Florida..................

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ihateronpaul Sat, Jan 8, 2011 7:21:40am

Rudy Gui9/11ani

seriously dude, how about you stop exploiting a national tragedy with crocodile tears....every time you are near a microphone

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steve_davis Sat, Jan 8, 2011 8:26:55am

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Huh... you know I've been meaning to ask, there's a lot/at least some of derision /dislike of both Kos and Huffpo on this blog (I don't want to talk about if it is deserved or not) what is LGF's feelings on Balloon Juice?

I may well be the only person here whose managed to get banned by both Free Republic and Daily Kos. Free Republic gave me about 10 seconds before I made the mistake of saying something nice about Jimmy Carter. I made it about 7 years with Kos before I had to write a Goodbye Cruel Kos diary and have Meteor Blades deactivate my account permanently. I really find I just detest hyperbolic anti-semitic blowhardery on both sides. And really, Kos has gotten almost as bad as Free Republic in its hatred of the president, which probably means the man is doing his job.

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teh flowah Sat, Jan 8, 2011 12:42:56pm

he definitely had strategic blunders too. not aggressively campaigning until Florida.

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