If I'd posted this at LGF in 2007, Asimov would have immediately been accused of being a commie atheist hack sci-fi writer with no idea what the fuck he was talking about.

more proof that global warming is science fiction

Thanks for posting, Charles. Because of your blog, I've definitely become more an more receptive to this issue.

re: #2 SilentAlfa

more proof that global warming is science fiction

you mean science non-fiction?

I had a whole shelf of Asimov books when I was a teenager.

Issac Asimov was a prolific suthor. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

re: #2 SilentAlfa

more proof that global warming is science fiction

so what have you got for proof of this fiction?

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

Issac Asimov was a prolific suthor. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

He was nothing short of amazing. A real polymath. I had a lot of his science books, and learned something new from all of them.

re: #8 Charles

Yes he was. I still remember the Space Dictionary. That was a neat little book of space terms.

re: #7 albusteve

Are you cracking your knuckles, ready to pounce?

re: #10 Kid A

Are you cracking your knuckles, ready to pounce?

not at all...just curious

Across the country the GOP is gutting environmental committees and appointments. It's bad.

If I'd posted this at LGF in 2007, Asimov would have immediately been accused of being a commie atheist hack sci-fi writer with no dea what the fuck he was talking about.

Global Warming is science fiction.

///

Asimov was the first person I read to be a real progressive in the scientific field. His imagination is expansive.

re: #11 albusteve

not at all...just curious

As am I.

However, I suspect that poster doesn't have the balls to stick around and discuss it.

re: #15 b_sharp

How about #13?

re: #12 Charles

Across the country the GOP is gutting environmental committees and appointments. It's bad.

The US is going to fall behind other countries in science research and preparedness for the consequences of a warming world.

re: #16 Kid A

How about #13?

Reginald is being sarcastic.

re: #17 b_sharp
Unfortunately very true.

re: #16 Kid A

How about #13?

What about it?

I read the first comment on this thread and replied before reading the second comment.

re: #12 Charles

Across the country the GOP is gutting environmental committees and appointments. It's bad.

fallout from the CRU bullshit last year, that and some sort of domino effect...I thought it would be bad, but didn't see the GOP leading the way at the time...they could set this thing back decades or even permanently for that matter...there just has to be some sort of resistance or we're really fucked

re: #20 Reginald Perrin

What about it?

I read the first comment on this thread and replied before reading the second comment.

New kid. Doesn't know your attitudes.

re: #15 b_sharp

As am I.

However, I suspect that poster doesn't have the balls to stick around and discuss it.

AlfAlfa fled...darn it

re: #23 albusteve

AlfAlfa fled...darn it

Sir Robin wet his pants and buggered off.

re: #22 b_sharp

New kid. Doesn't know your attitudes.

He/she is only a couple of weeks after me. He/she is silent.

re: #2 SilentAlfa

more proof that global warming is science fiction

Link?

A retired journalist for The New York Times, William K. Stevens wrote: “The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said the likelihood was 90 percent to 99 percent that emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide, spewed from tailpipes and smokestacks, were the dominant cause of the observed warming of the last 50 years. In the panel’s parlance, this level of certainty is labeled 'very likely'. Only rarely does scientific odds-making provide a more definite answer than that, at least in this branch of science, and it describes the endpoint, so far, of a progression.”
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #12 Charles

Charles, I've been reading your blog for some time, and I've watched it and yourself evolve. While the 2012 election is (in political terms) an eternity, where do you see the GOP at 2012 and beyond? I'm just curious on your thoughts. Thanks! -Kid A (Eric)

I got to get up early tomorrow and go to the DMV to get my drivers license renewed. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

re: #24 b_sharp

Sir Robin wet his pants and buggered off.

I feel so...empty

re: #22 b_sharp

Yep. I've only been posting for a month. Sorry that I didn't "get it."

re: #28 PhillyPretzel

I got to get up early tomorrow and go to the DMV to get my drivers license renewed. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

Gird your loins.

re: #5 Charles

I had a whole shelf of Asimov books when I was a teenager.

We still have a shelf of Asimov's books, including two sets of well thumbed Foundation series.

re: #22 b_sharp

New kid. Doesn't know your attitudes.

Change attitudes to singular, I only have a bad attitude.

re: #16 Kid A

How about #13?

Do you see those hash tags at the end of the post?
They're sarcasm tags.

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

Do you see those hash tags at the end of the post?
They're sarcasm tags.

I don't think he knows how to use those.

re: #25 prairiefire

He/she is only a couple of weeks after me. He/she is silent.

Kid A is behind more like a year and a couple of weeks.
You and I joined pretty much at the same time.

look at this old sweetheart...I want one, altho newer (had an 85)
between that and my bunkhouse, I'd continue to be a pretty green guy...the one material toy I really have to have
[Link: www.campertrailersforsale.net.au...]

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

Thanks for the help. I've been wondering what those were. Give me time!

re: #29 albusteve

I feel so...empty

We'll just have to find you another toy to play with.

re: #36 b_sharp

Kid A is behind more like a year and a couple of weeks.
You and I joined pretty much at the same time.

that's NO EXCUSE!
gimme 25!

re: #29 albusteve

I feel so...empty

Patience, patience.

re: #37 albusteve

LOL!
You old hippie, you!
That's pretty sweet.

Geez, what a bunch of commie/atheist propaganda, as if mankind could possibly damage the climate. Everyone knows that only Zeus/Jupiter can control the weather, saying differently is obvious heresy and deserves stoning to death as punishment.

///I'm not bringing Jesus into this one, he never said we couldn't eff up the planet, in fact he actually (kinda) said we would. Too bad the evangelicals are now too stupid to read their own bibles... :(

re: #33 Reginald Perrin

Change attitudes to singular, I only have a bad attitude.

Nah, you're just a softy.

re: #39 b_sharp

We'll just have to find you another toy to play with.

I never give the denialists shit, I'd like to hear what they have to say...but they always dash back to Namby Pamby Land without expressing themselves

re: #40 albusteve

that's NO EXCUSE!
gimme 25!

All I have is 25 Canuck pennies. Is that good enough?

re: #36 b_sharp

Kid A is behind more like a year and a couple of weeks.
You and I joined pretty much at the same time.

I meant SilentAlfalfa. He registered 3 days after you.

re: #44 b_sharp

Nah, you're just a softy.

Shh, now you know that's not true!

///

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You old hippie, you!
That's pretty sweet.

cool huh?...close it up and it has "honey,take your pants off" written all over it!...ahahaha!

re: #37 albusteve

Don't you want one of these?
[Link: www.airstreamclassifieds.com...]

re: #45 albusteve

I never give the denialists shit, I'd like to hear what they have to say...but they always dash back to Namby Pamby Land without expressing themselves

Yup, with soggy pants and their tails between their legs.

re: #46 b_sharp

All I have is 25 Canuck pennies. Is that good enough?

sure, send it to Save the Polar Bears Fund
(and get a receipt)

re: #49 albusteve

cool huh?...close it up and it has "honey,take your pants off" written all over it!...ahahaha!

Ah, the sexual revolution. I just loved it.

re: #44 b_sharp

Nah, you're just a softy.

No way!...not as long as they keep making Cialis.

re: #47 prairiefire

I meant SilentAlfalfa. He registered 3 days after you.

I just looked at his prior comments and if this one is any indication, it seems his #2 on this thread may actually be a joke. If so, too bad it sounds exactly like what denier dimwits say in all seriousness.

re: #54 Reginald Perrin

No way!...not as long as they keep making Cialis.

It's hard to say which is the better, Cialis or Viagra, it could even take more than 4 hours.

re: #50 Floral Giraffe

Don't you want one of these?
[Link: www.airstreamclassifieds.com...]

whoa nellie!...to big and expensive...I had two motor homes and they were sure alot of fun, but I truly loved my Westy, it had style

I'm looking for a VW to recondition...simple, cheap, a one guy thing I can tour in...twist up a fatty, put on some Stones, drive across Utah or wherever...yeah baby

re: #57 albusteve

An Airstream is not that much bigger. They do drive a bit different than a VW.

re: #57 albusteve

whoa nellie!...to big and expensive...I had two motor homes and they were sure alot of fun, but I truly loved my Westy, it had style

I'm looking for a VW to recondition...simple, cheap, a one guy thing I can tour in...twist up a fatty, put on some Stones, drive across Utah or wherever...yeah baby

I'm limited to just one real upding, but I gave you several in my mind.

re: #54 Reginald Perrin

No way!...not as long as they keep making Cialis.

Do you realize that drug is, quite literally, a huge component of socialism? :P

re: #56 b_sharp

It's hard to say which is the better, Cialis or Viagra, it could even take more than 4 hours.

re: #57 albusteve

Here's a camper version: [Link: www.oldbug.com...]

re: #2 SilentAlfa

more proof that global warming is science fiction

Wow, and that horse breaks a leg right out of the gate!

re: #61 Reginald Perrin

When a guy get's past fifty, it often takes all night to do what he used to do all night.

re: #60 publicityStunted

Wit like that is one of the main reasons LGF is my favorite blog. Thanks so much for the wine that I just spewed all over my laptop!

re: #58 prairiefire

An Airstream is not that much bigger. They do drive a bit different than a VW.

but you gotta pull the things with an expensive truck...not rustic enough for me...I knew a guy that had two of them, a huge new one and a small older model which was really cool...he was in the club, the whole nine miles...both were top of the line, really sweet trailers...I need another VW camper

re: #58 prairiefire

An Airstream is not that much bigger. They do drive a bit different than a VW.

LOL!
Yes, they can make it up a hill!
*waves*

re: #59 b_sharp

I'm limited to just one real upding, but I gave you several in my mind.

yeah...just think about it, ahhh! what a life

And also, LGF is without a doubt, the most intellectually diverse blog on the web. Thanks to all of you who contribute the humor and seriousness.

re: #67 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Yes, they can make it up a hill!
*waves*

Depends on how many stoned helpers you have to push.

Part 2

You can watch the complete video here.

Isaac Asimov - How to Save Civilization.

re: #67 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Yes, they can make it up a hill!
*waves*

I lived in an apt. next to a steep, short hill. The guy with the VW bus had it parked at the top of the hill so he could pull out, coast, and get the thing started.
*waves*

By the way guys I saw this post referenced over on a site that admittedly is much more liberal than this one but the source of it looks fairly trustworthy...

[Link: english.ahram.org.eg...]

First time I've found a story with the words "Muslim" and the phrase "Human shield" help bolster my faith in humanity...

re: #69 Kid A

And also, LGF is without a doubt, the most intellectually diverse blog on the web. Thanks to all of you who contribute the humor and seriousness.

What humour?

_{Splodey wingnut heads. :)}

re: #75 b_sharp

What humour?

Ask him how old he is.

re: #77 prairiefire

39.

re: #62 jaunte

Here's a camper version: [Link: www.oldbug.com...]

there it is...what a beautiful old bus...interior is exactly like my 85 Westfalia...I want one bad

re: #77 prairiefire

Ask him how old he is.

You ask him. I'm way too serious to get involved.

re: #1 Charles

If I'd posted this at LGF in 2007, Asimov would have immediately been accused of being a commie atheist hack sci-fi writer with no idea what the fuck he was talking about.

Hell, any AGW supporting posters would have been labeled Commie's on here in 2007. It was a down ding magnet.

re: #67 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Yes, they can make it up a hill!
*waves*

technology has solved that problem...supposedly...even my 85 water pumper strained going uphill...they all did

re: #75 b_sharp

What humour?

that's not funny

re: #80 b_sharp

You ask him. I'm way too serious to get involved.

Oh, ok. What is the current Celsius?

I viewed this clip just the other night.

re: #84 prairiefire

Oh, ok. What is the current Celsius?

Broken.

re: #83 albusteve

that's not funny

You can't be serious.

re: #84 prairiefire

Oh, ok. What is the current Celsius?

commie...stick to feet and inches

Where is everyone?

re: #2 SilentAlfa

more proof that global warming is science fiction

Considering that I have defended global warming on this site before I am more than just a little surprised; I thought it would be great to start off the thread with a sarcastic comment/bad joke for a nice little chuckle. Some people use // to indicate sarcasm, I use all lower-case (not raggin on you albusteve that's just mah style).
I've done this ever since the first time people misinterpreted what I thought was overbearing sarcasm. I honestly still think that the above post I made was really over-the-top, I made an effort to make that one obvious. I have failed you denizens of LittleGreenFootballs and I sincerely apologize next time I will resort to using // (even though this pains me it feels equivalent to typing a joke then at the bottom writing THIS IS A JOKE").

re: #87 b_sharp

You can't be serious.

you're right, I don't even try anymore

re: #90 SilentAlfa

Considering that I have defended global warming on this site before I am more than just a little surprised; I thought it would be great to start off the thread with a sarcastic comment/bad joke for a nice little chuckle. Some people use // to indicate sarcasm, I use all lower-case (not raggin on you albusteve that's just mah style).
I've done this ever since the first time people misinterpreted what I thought was overbearing sarcasm. I honestly still think that the above post I made was really over-the-top, I made an effort to make that one obvious. I have failed you denizens of LittleGreenFootballs and I sincerely apologize next time I will resort to using // (even though this pains me it feels equivalent to typing a joke then at the bottom writing THIS IS A JOKE").

okay...who's got the key to the handcuffs?

re: #90 SilentAlfa

Considering that I have defended global warming on this site before I am more than just a little surprised; I thought it would be great to start off the thread with a sarcastic comment/bad joke for a nice little chuckle. Some people use // to indicate sarcasm, I use all lower-case (not raggin on you albusteve that's just mah style).
I've done this ever since the first time people misinterpreted what I thought was overbearing sarcasm. I honestly still think that the above post I made was really over-the-top, I made an effort to make that one obvious. I have failed you denizens of LittleGreenFootballs and I sincerely apologize next time I will resort to using // (even though this pains me it feels equivalent to typing a joke then at the bottom writing THIS IS A JOKE").

It was a little too Poeish.

re: #89 b_sharp

Where is everyone?

Putting the pretty on?
It's Friday night.
Later, taters!

re: #92 albusteve

okay...who's got the key to the handcuffs?

Which key? The key I just swallowed?

We may have to wait.

re: #92 albusteve

okay...who's got the key to the handcuffs?

LOL.
You're in fine form tonight Steve.

That VW is priced at $22,500 or best offer.
You need to make that call NOW.

re: #89 b_sharp

Where is everyone?

At the bottom of the deep blue sea.

re: #90 SilentAlfa

Considering that I have defended global warming on this site before I am more than just a little surprised; I thought it would be great to start off the thread with a sarcastic comment/bad joke for a nice little chuckle. Some people use // to indicate sarcasm, I use all lower-case (not raggin on you albusteve that's just mah style).
I've done this ever since the first time people misinterpreted what I thought was overbearing sarcasm. I honestly still think that the above post I made was really over-the-top, I made an effort to make that one obvious. I have failed you denizens of LittleGreenFootballs and I sincerely apologize next time I will resort to using // (even though this pains me it feels equivalent to typing a joke then at the bottom writing THIS IS A JOKE").

Thank you please do make sure to use sarc tags in the future.

On the internet nobody can see you raise your eyes or hear you raise your voice a few octaves as you speak.

Always keep Poe's Law in mind... no matter how over the top you try to be, people will think you are serious unless you include a sarc tag or some other way of letting people know you're joking.

re: #90 SilentAlfa

Ok, a post is just one post! You should hang out more often, silental.

re: #90 SilentAlfa

Considering that I have defended global warming on this site before I am more than just a little surprised; I thought it would be great to start off the thread with a sarcastic comment/bad joke for a nice little chuckle. Some people use // to indicate sarcasm, I use all lower-case (not raggin on you albusteve that's just mah style).
I've done this ever since the first time people misinterpreted what I thought was overbearing sarcasm. I honestly still think that the above post I made was really over-the-top, I made an effort to make that one obvious. I have failed you denizens of LittleGreenFootballs and I sincerely apologize next time I will resort to using // (even though this pains me it feels equivalent to typing a joke then at the bottom writing THIS IS A JOKE").

We need an official sarcasm font. Like italics with an eye roll.

re: #98 jamesfirecat

Thank you please do make sure to use sarc tags in the future.

On the internet nobody can see you raise your eyes or hear you raise your voice a few octaves as you speak.

Always keep Poe's Law in mind... no matter how over the top you try to be, people will think you are serious unless you include a sarc tag or some other way of letting people know you're joking we will have heard the exact same argument from a denier.

re: #90 SilentAlfa

Thanks for confirming what I wrote in #55. Downding withdrawn, and consider the fault isn't so much yours as it is the witless wingnuts who say ridiculously over-the-top things like that all the time without it being a joke. That's the main reason sarc tags are useful, especially for infrequent posters whose "style" isn't readily apparent.

re: #96 reine.de.tout

LOL.
You're in fine form tonight Steve.

That VW is priced at $22,500 or best offer.
You need to make that call NOW.

he should not have added the 'best offer'...if the motor is new, it's worth 22k, but BO should not be a penny less than 20k...as for me, for 20k it has to come with a Filipino chauffeur...I do not allow my laundry girls to leave the house

re: #89 b_sharp

Where is everyone?

*open closet door, peeps out from behind coats* We're lurking, observing.

re: #104 CuriousLurker

*open closet door, peeps out from behind coats* We're lurking, observing.

get dressed and join us

re: #104 CuriousLurker

*open closet door, peeps out from behind coats* We're lurking, observing.

What kind of coats? Any money in the pockets?

re: #105 albusteve

get dressed and join us

I would, but I can't thing of anything interesting or clever to say.

It's Friday—I'm brain dead.

It takes years of fighting to get these committees in place. This could set it back a decade or more. Can't wait till they start gutting health care programs.

re: #106 b_sharp

What kind of coats? Any money in the pockets?

Mostly lizard skin coats. Nothing in the pockets but lint & gum wrappers.

after all, it's the FNDT

who want's to bust a move

re: #110 albusteve

after all, it's the FNDT

[Video]

who want's to bust a move

Post some Stones.

From the Guardian Article:

There had been some talk among Republicans of keeping the committee alive so it could be used to mock climate change and harass scientists, but leadership put the kibosh on that idea. It went out on a high note, and on its own terms, so I suppose we can take some small comfort in that.

re: #108 Amory Blaine

It takes years of fighting to get these committees in place. This could set it back a decade or more. Can't wait till they start gutting health care programs.

right, and sooner or later it will cost us thousands of primo jobs...pisses me off...better get a wood burner and start chopping down trees I guess

This has been stuck in my head for the past week and I have no idea why as I hadn't heard it in ages:

re: #111 prairiefire

Post some Stones.

I can do that...here's a studio ballad

has a calming effect

re: #114 CuriousLurker

This has been stuck in my head for the past week and I have no idea why as I hadn't heard it in ages:

[Video]

I'm hoping posting it here will exorcise it. //

Time for my yearly video (2010)of the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drags and my now 78 year old drag racing friend. Here's Ted racing his supercharged stock 1964 Studebaker Lark. He runs in the 12's through stock mufflers and on street tires. Notice when the blower boost kick in against the 396 Chevy SS

I just finished reading one of the strangest and most enjoyable books I've read in a long time.

The Lust Lizard of Melancholy Cove.

Here's a bit of info:

Mavis first began augmenting her parts in the fifties, first out of vanity: breasts, eyelashes, hair. Later, as she aged and the concept of maintenance eluded her, she began having parts replaced as they failed, until almost half of her body weight was composed of stainless steel (hips, elbows, shoulders, finger joints, rods fused to vertebrae five through twelve), silicon wafers (hearing aids, pacemaker, insulin pump), advanced polymer resins (cataract replacement lenses, dentures), Kevlar fabric (abdominal wall reinforcement), titanium (knees, ankles), and pork (ventricular heart valve).

In a nutshell, the plot revolves around a gigantic prehistoric lizard whose slumber deep beneath the ocean surface is interrupted by a radioactive leak from a nearby power plant. At the same time, a woman in Pine Cove hangs herself; the local psychiatrist (who has been prescribing antidepressants to everyone in town with gay abandon) decides the suicide was her fault and yanks everyone's medication; and an elderly black blues singer named Catfish Jefferson arrives to perform at the Head of the Slug saloon. Into this already strange brew mix one schizoid former B-movie starlet, a pot-head town constable, a bereaved local artist, a biologist tracking anomalous behavior in rats, a crooked sheriff, and a pharmacist with a bizarre sexual fixation on sea mammals, and you have a recipe for the kind of madness Moore does so well.

re: #114 CuriousLurker

This has been stuck in my head for the past week and I have no idea why as I hadn't heard it in ages:

[Video]

Thanks for that. I had forgotten about America.

OT: "Best medical care in the world" my ass, this system sucks. Now they want to kick Dad out of the hospital physical therapy unit early because he isn't making the "expected progress."

So I can sign him up for Hospice care and maybe, possibly, bring him home, but he has to give up the chemo treatments that are extending his life. I can send him to a nursing home for extended physical therapy while paying about $42.00 a day (until day 100, then we have to pay it all, over $6,000 a month) also with no chemo. Or I can bring him home with only a daily visit from a nurse not much better than a candy striper to help and somehow attempt to get him to his chemo appointments.

If his skin wasn't so fragile that it tears when you lift him, and he didn't weigh 250lbs, option three would be a no brainer. I need to give this some thought and spend the weekend trying to figure out of there is anything else I can do...

All I know is I put Mom in a nursing home for rehab and twelve days later she was dead, I don't want a repeat. I also know that Dad wants to die at home, I would like to try to make that happen, I just have to figure out how to do it.

re: #118 reine.de.tout

I just finished reading one of the strangest and most enjoyable books I've read in a long time.

The Lust Lizard of Melancholy Cove.

Here's a bit of info:

Hah! Just sent a Kindle sample to my iPad. Thanks.

re: #116 CuriousLurker

Great. Now its in my head. I'm very susceptible!

re: #57 albusteve

whoa nellie!...to big and expensive...I had two motor homes and they were sure alot of fun, but I truly loved my Westy, it had style

I'm looking for a VW to recondition...simple, cheap, a one guy thing I can tour in...twist up a fatty, put on some Stones, drive across Utah or wherever...yeah baby

I had a coworker that had a classic microbus with dual sliding doors but no windows besides the back and the front cabin, sorta had a delivery fan look to it. one on each side, she was always being approached by people wanting to buy it off her

re: #119 b_sharp

Thanks for that. I had forgotten about America.

You're welcome. Me too—it took me way, way back.

re: #117 avanti

Time for my yearly video (2010)of the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drags and my now 78 year old drag racing friend. Here's Ted racing his supercharged stock 1964 Studebaker Lark. He runs in the 12's through stock mufflers and on street tires. Notice when the blower boost kick in against the 396 Chevy SS

[Video]

my nephew went 10.56 in his Maverick this past summer...smokin...a .60 over 351 Cleveland...that Lark was a fun little car, HS buddy had one

Oh, speaking of the Kindle, now that we have one here, and that it connects to the internet, it really does look like witchcraft in person, just like a magical harry potter book-thing

We're all used to TVs and light up screens, this just seems somehow spooky

re: #120 ausador

{ausador}
difficult decisions.

I had to make a decision whether or not to put a feeding tube in my Dad.
I decided against it - the doctor pointed out to me that a loss of apetite is part of the process of dying, that feeding tubes for someone of my Dad's age and condition (heart problems, Alzheimer's) were not shown to actually prolong life - and so it was not as difficult a decision as it could have been.

Please talk to your Dad's doctors and/or get some end of life counseling and advice from a specialist as well as clergy. You need help with this decision.

re: #126 WindUpBird

Oh, speaking of the Kindle, now that we have one here, and that it connects to the internet, it really does look like witchcraft in person, just like a magical harry potter book-thing

We're all used to TVs and light up screens, this just seems somehow spooky

It's very simple compared to the brightness and glitz of computer screens.
And that's one of the reasons I love it.

My daughter just got a Nook - and I do not like it nearly as much as I like my Kindle.

re: #124 CuriousLurker

You're welcome. Me too—it took me way, way back.

I was stoned every time I heard this. Great memories, if I could remember them.

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Hah! Just sent a Kindle sample to my iPad. Thanks.

Weirdest book - but even the sea monster seemed real! The characters are great.

re: #123 WindUpBird

I had a coworker that had a classic microbus with dual sliding doors but no windows besides the back and the front cabin, sorta had a delivery fan look to it. one on each side, she was always being approached by people wanting to buy it off her

not sure I've seen one...maybe from Europe, and yeah, old VWs always have a buyer...bunch of cool ones here in ABQ...drool

re: #118 reine.de.tout

awesome, this sounds almost like slipstream fiction o_o

re: #129 b_sharp

I was stoned every time I heard this. Great memories, if I could remember them.

Who wasn't?

re: #125 albusteve

my nephew went 10.56 in his Maverick this past summer...smokin...a .60 over 351 Cleveland...that Lark was a fun little car, HS buddy had one

Damn, that's fast.

Speed really gives me a rush.

re: #122 sizzleRI

Great. Now its in my head. I'm very susceptible!

LMAO!

The '70s were great. I was talking with a friend earlier this week about how much things have changed. You don't realize it until you really start thinking about all the small stuff.

re: #132 WindUpBird

awesome, this sounds almost like slipstream fiction o_o

Yes it does!
It didn't seem like honest-to-goodness science fiction when I was reading it, the book read like a regular book.

Now I need to fill up my Kindle with some other titles from the same author. . .

re: #57 albusteve

whoa nellie!...to big and expensive...I had two motor homes and they were sure alot of fun, but I truly loved my Westy, it had style

I'm looking for a VW to recondition...simple, cheap, a one guy thing I can tour in...twist up a fatty, put on some Stones, drive across Utah or wherever...yeah baby

You are sooo busted!!
In Utah they PROFILE!!
VW+Out of state plates!!LOL

re: #128 reine.de.tout

It's very simple compared to the brightness and glitz of computer screens.
And that's one of the reasons I love it.

My daughter just got a Nook - and I do not like it nearly as much as I like my Kindle.

it's sorta that weird barrier, the thing that is reflective, like a piece of paper, that can change what's written on it. it's The Future in a way a slightly smaller computer or telephone or Tv can not be, because it's revolutionary

Eyestrain is such a horror with computer screens over long periods of time, I'm wondering when we'll start seeing "digital paper" monitor displays. can't be more than a couple years off, right? Just increase the refresh rate and make it bigger

re: #129 b_sharp

I was stoned every time I heard this. Great memories, if I could remember them.

That song caused endless high debates in college of Neil Young vs. America. Napster always had it listed as Neil Young. Good times.

re: #133 reine.de.tout

Who wasn't?

The world really has turned serious since then, hasn't it?

re: #140 b_sharp

The world really has turned serious since then, hasn't it?

Yes.
And now that I'm the mother of a college student, I'm quite happy it has.
LOL.

re: #136 reine.de.tout

Yes it does!
It didn't seem like honest-to-goodness science fiction when I was reading it, the book read like a regular book.

Now I need to fill up my Kindle with some other titles from the same author. . .

There's a Chuck Palaniuk book, Lullaby, which is like that, it's depicting supernatural events and such, but doing it in such a matter of fact "normal guy in the middle of it in modern times" way

harmony

re: #129 b_sharp

I was stoned every time I heard this. Great memories, if I could remember them.

Same here—1975-1990 is pretty much a fog. LOL

^{//Don't tell anyone I admitted that, 'kay?}

re: #136 reine.de.tout

Yes it does!
It didn't seem like honest-to-goodness science fiction when I was reading it, the book read like a regular book.

Now I need to fill up my Kindle with some other titles from the same author. . .

I've spent more on books in the three months since I got my Kindle than I had the previous 2 years.

re: #144 CuriousLurker

Same here—1975-1990 is pretty much a fog. LOL

^{//Don't tell anyone I admitted that, 'kay?}

Sober!

(okay, I was born in 76)

re: #133 reine.de.tout

Who wasn't?

*GASP!!* You too??

*thud*

re: #142 WindUpBird

There's a Chuck Palaniuk book, Lullaby, which is like that, it's depicting supernatural events and such, but doing it in such a matter of fact "normal guy in the middle of it in modern times" way

Fantastic book.

re: #120 ausador

OT: "Best medical care in the world" my ass, this system sucks. Now they want to kick Dad out of the hospital physical therapy unit early because he isn't making the "expected progress."

So I can sign him up for Hospice care and maybe, possibly, bring him home, but he has to give up the chemo treatments that are extending his life. I can send him to a nursing home for extended physical therapy while paying about $42.00 a day (until day 100, then we have to pay it all, over $6,000 a month) also with no chemo. Or I can bring him home with only a daily visit from a nurse not much better than a candy striper to help and somehow attempt to get him to his chemo appointments.

If his skin wasn't so fragile that it tears when you lift him, and he didn't weigh 250lbs, option three would be a no brainer. I need to give this some thought and spend the weekend trying to figure out of there is anything else I can do...

All I know is I put Mom in a nursing home for rehab and twelve days later she was dead, I don't want a repeat. I also know that Dad wants to die at home, I would like to try to make that happen, I just have to figure out how to do it.

If your area has "211" service, dial them. They have the information on what kind of faciliities of all kinds are available in their area. You'll usually be talking to a United Way volunteer.

re: #145 b_sharp

I've spent more on books in the three months since I got my Kindle than I had the previous 2 years.

THAT is what I was just talking about with a friend of mine, now that i have this thing and I see how cheap and easy it is to SHOP ONLINE FROM THE VERY BOOK YOU ARE READING we assumed that in about five years Amazon will be able to purchase the entire west coast :D

re: #147 CuriousLurker

*GASP!!* You too??

*thud*

ROFL!
Well, yeah.

re: #148 sizzleRI

Fantastic book.

I love his grim yet gleeful creativity, reminds me of Stephen King

re: #134 b_sharp

Damn, that's fast.

Speed really gives me a rush.

oh yeah...we are all car nuts, racers and builders...drag racing is a rush...beautiful track back home, lots of great people with tons of cool cars...roundy round is okay, but I dig the straight line madness...G force junkie

re: #138 WindUpBird

it's sorta that weird barrier, the thing that is reflective, like a piece of paper, that can change what's written on it. it's The Future in a way a slightly smaller computer or telephone or Tv can not be, because it's revolutionary

Eyestrain is such a horror with computer screens over long periods of time, I'm wondering when we'll start seeing "digital paper" monitor displays. can't be more than a couple years off, right? Just increase the refresh rate and make it bigger

Colour might be the problem. I know they're working on it but I don't know how successful they've been.

re: #147 CuriousLurker

*GASP!!* You too??

*thud*

This is why I do art when high, something good had better come from it besides empty Dorito bags :D

re: #154 b_sharp

Colour might be the problem. I know they're working on it but I don't know how successful they've been.

oh i was assuming b/w for the near future. Color seems like it'd be a matter of being able to do it cheaply :P

re: #151 reine.de.tout

ROFL!
Well, yeah.

heh...I love you guys, but pass the bong tho

re: #144 CuriousLurker

Same here—1975-1990 is pretty much a fog. LOL

^{//Don't tell anyone I admitted that, 'kay?}

My lips are sealed.

Please don't judge me by this confession...but
(I'm so ashamed) ...I spent 30 minutes flipping through a "Star" Magazine!
I feel dirty and need a shower!
One point I'm proud of is...I had no idea who 85-90% of those celebrity FREAKS WERE!

re: #152 WindUpBird

I love his grim yet gleeful creativity, reminds me of Stephen King

Grim yet gleeful, I like that. Diary is my favorite.

re: #43 ausador

Geez, what a bunch of commie/atheist propaganda, as if mankind could possibly damage the climate. Everyone knows that only Zeus/Jupiter can control the weather, saying differently is obvious heresy and deserves stoning to death as punishment.

///I'm not bringing Jesus into this one, he never said we couldn't eff up the planet, in fact he actually (kinda) said we would. Too bad the evangelicals are now too stupid to read their own bibles... :(

As much as I would like to believe in a divine toddler gate that will prevent us from falling down the cosmic stairs and going bump, I don't.

re: #160 sizzleRI

Grim yet gleeful, I like that. Diary is my favorite.

he's occasionally on Portland radio, the guy is really REALLY funny, I can just tell he relishes it :D

re: #155 WindUpBird

This is why I do art when high, something good had better come from it besides empty Dorito bags :D

Andy Worhal said the very same thing...
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re: #81 avanti

Hell, any AGW supporting posters would have been labeled Commie's on here in 2007. It was a down ding magnet.

In 2007, evolution was still pretty iffy here, IIRC.

re: #155 WindUpBird

This is why I do art when high, something good had better come from it besides empty Dorito bags :D

LOL—I was one of those people who was totally useless under the influence. I'd just melt into a warm & fuzzy puddle of happy, giggly goo.

Would that I could have back all the $$ I literally burned through...

re: #162 WindUpBird

[Video]

LOL!
I'm stealing that title

re: #164 albusteve

oh well...you can guess

re: #153 albusteve

oh yeah...we are all car nuts, racers and builders...drag racing is a rush...beautiful track back home, lots of great people with tons of cool cars...roundy round is okay, but I dig the straight line madness...G force junkie

I really like open wheel racing now, but I grew up on straight line so it's always my first thought when racing comes up.

re: #120 ausador

Sorry to hear you're having such a tough time. {ausador}

re: #95 b_sharp

Which key? The key I just swallowed?

We may have to wait.

That was a brilliant episode of Coupling. (One of the young men handcuffs his girlfriend to her bed, then accidentally swallows the key to the handcuffs. Comes running to the pub, still wearing his studded leather mask, to ask his friends, in a panic, 'how fast intestines work'.

re: #169 b_sharp

I really like open wheel racing now, but I grew up on straight line so it's always my first thought when racing comes up.

open wheel in the dirt...YOWZW!...gotta have some nads for that...AJ Foyt and the stuff of myth

re: #118 reine.de.tout

I just finished reading one of the strangest and most enjoyable books I've read in a long time.

The Lust Lizard of Melancholy Cove.

Here's a bit of info:

I believe that is by the same man who wrote a very funny book about the life of Jesus.

re: #166 CuriousLurker

LOL—I was one of those people who was totally useless under the influence. I'd just melt into a warm & fuzzy puddle of happy, giggly goo.

Would that I could have back all the $$ I literally burned through...

Thank you! A few days ago WUB and Obdi were writing about how productive they are/were when the smoke and I needed someone in my camp. I am useless. For hours. Bad television. Making food and then leaving various appliances on. Falling asleep while smoking. Just not good.

re: #125 albusteve

my nephew went 10.56 in his Maverick this past summer...smokin...a .60 over 351 Cleveland...that Lark was a fun little car, HS buddy had one

Ted's racing Stude ran in the high 9's with twin turbo's on a Stude V8 until this happened. btw, he was 76 at the time of the crash..

[Link: photography-on-the.net...]

re: #156 WindUpBird

oh i was assuming b/w for the near future. Color seems like it'd be a matter of being able to do it cheaply :P

Take a look.

Turn your sound down first though. The video runs automagically.

re: #159 reloadingisnotahobby

Please don't judge me by this confession...but
(I'm so ashamed) ...I spent 30 minutes flipping through a "Star" Magazine!
I feel dirty and need a shower!
One point I'm proud of is...I had no idea who 85-90% of those celebrity FREAKS WERE!

Please, stand down wind until you take a shower.

Good evening Lizards! The Hoopster is on-line this Friday night...Interesting posts tonight

re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist

I believe that is by the same man who wrote a very funny book about the life of Jesus.

Yes, it is.

re: #175 avanti

Ted's racing Stude ran in the high 9's with twin turbo's on a Stude V8 until this happened. btw, he was 76 at the time of the crash..

[Link: photography-on-the.net...]

staring at the first pic thinking was a very cool car, easily a 10...then I scrolled to the wreck, what a shame

re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist

In 2007, evolution was still pretty iffy here, IIRC.

Really? I would never have suspected.

re: #175 avanti

Ted's racing Stude ran in the high 9's with twin turbo's on a Stude V8 until this happened. btw, he was 76 at the time of the crash..

[Link: photography-on-the.net...]

I think the car is supposed to stay on the other side of the fence.

re: #174 sizzleRI

Thank you! A few days ago WUB and Obdi were writing about how productive they are/were when the smoke and I needed someone in my camp. I am useless. For hours. Bad television. Making food and then leaving various appliances on. Falling asleep while smoking. Just not good.

I just craved french fries.

re: #179 reine.de.tout

Yes, it is.

"The Son of God may not lie with a woman."

"Does that mean he should not, or he can not?"

"I don't know. Does it make a difference?"

"Yes, it makes a difference!"

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

"The Son of God may not lie with a woman."

"Does that mean he should not, or he can not?"

"I don't know. Does it make a difference?"

"Yes, it makes a difference!"

Yeah, I've got that one in the queue. And a few others, as well.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the Lust Lizard.

CSN&Y do some blues...

re: #181 b_sharp

Really? I would never have suspected.

I actually miss the evolution arguments. They were really, really, bizarre.

re: #178 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards! The Hoopster is on-line this Friday night...Interesting posts tonight

howdy bro

re: #174 sizzleRI

Thank you! A few days ago WUB and Obdi were writing about how productive they are/were when the smoke and I needed someone in my camp. I am useless. For hours. Bad television. Making food and then leaving various appliances on. Falling asleep while smoking. Just not good.

Exactly. With me & my best friend it was always brownies or rice crispy treats + music, bad TV, or Cheech & Chong.

CL - check your e-mail, please.

re: #189 CuriousLurker

Exactly. With me & my best friend it was always brownies or rice crispy treats + music, bad TV, or Cheech & Chong.

french fries.

re: #183 reine.de.tout

I just craved french fries.

That was the thing though—once you had something savory, you had to balance it with something sweet. And then there was the constant cotton-mouth to deal with.

re: #188 albusteve

howdy bro

Hey you...I think you should swear allegiance to Formula one racing..
Just do it...
/

re: #190 reine.de.tout

CL - check your e-mail, please.

Will do.

re: #187 SanFranciscoZionist

I actually miss the evolution arguments. They were really, really, bizarre.

I used to argue evolution over at FR. The madness was frightening.

re: #191 reine.de.tout

french fries.

Mmmm, fried potato products. In an effort to lose weight this year I considered switching out beer and replacing with pot (what? its decriminalized here!), but then really. Would I have lost any weight?

re: #193 HoosierHoops

Hey you...I think you should swear allegiance to Formula one racing..
Just do it...
/

I went down to Indy for Fri time trials once...not quite the same thing tho

re: #196 sizzleRI

Mmmm, fried potato products. In an effort to lose weight this year I considered switching out beer and replacing with pot (what? its decriminalized here!), but then really. Would I have lost any weight?

No.

re: #196 sizzleRI

Mmmm, fried potato products. In an effort to lose weight this year I considered switching out beer and replacing with pot (what? its decriminalized here!), but then really. Would I have lost any weight?

No.

re: #198 reine.de.tout

No.

Exactly.

re: #198 reine.de.tout

No.

re: #199 b_sharp

No.

GMTA!

re: #198 reine.de.tout

No.

10 seconds young lady.

re: #193 HoosierHoops

Hey you...I think you should swear allegiance to Formula one racing..
Just do it...
/

look at this beast...is it fast?
[Link: wallpaper-s.org...]

re: #202 b_sharp

10 seconds young lady.

Heh.
And, thanks for the "young".

The good news is that I did get a kitty, I was lonely here with both mom and dad gone. He is a greatly loving, very talkative, and extremely playful kitty, I made a good choice. He does a lot to keep my spirits up...

The bad news is that they are going to kick me out of here almost the second dad goes, to protect their 55 and older tax break on the condo complex. My own condo is still sub-leased for another seven months (you get better rates on a 12 month lease), so I can't go back there yet either. Seems I am going to have to find an apartment that allows cats, not easy in St. Petersburg right this minute...sigh, this sucks.

Going back to life on my own also seems pretty scary right now, 2011 is going to be an interesting year I guess.

re: #196 sizzleRI

Mmmm, fried potato products. In an effort to lose weight this year I considered switching out beer and replacing with pot (what? its decriminalized here!), but then really. Would I have lost any weight?

re: #199 b_sharp

No.

But you might be on to a new medical rationale.

re: #203 albusteve

look at this beast...is it fast?
[Link: wallpaper-s.org...]

Very.

re: #202 b_sharp

10 seconds young lady.

I have seen posts with the exact same time stamp...one was mine

re: #201 reine.de.tout

As a warning because I know you have a daughter who just started college, my stepfather has what he calls the "parental statute of limitations". Now that we're in our late 20s my sister and I disclose stupid/quasi-illegal/illegal things we did in high school and college. He would still prefer not to know.

re: #197 albusteve

I went down to Indy for Fri time trials once...not quite the same thing tho

I'll be going back to Indy next May for the race..It's the 100th anniversary of the track..

re: #204 reine.de.tout

Heh.
And, thanks for the "young".

You're younger and better looking than I am. Probably smarter too.

re: #180 albusteve

staring at the first pic thinking was a very cool car, easily a 10...then I scrolled to the wreck, what a shame

He bought that car for $35 in 1961 and raced it until the wreck. It broke his heart to see her die. More here:

[Link: www.americantorque.com...]

re: #209 sizzleRI

As a warning because I know you have a daughter who just started college, my stepfather has what he calls the "parental statute of limitations". Now that we're in our late 20s my sister and I disclose stupid/quasi-illegal/illegal things we did in high school and college. He would still prefer not to know.

Oh, heck.
I know what she does, she doesn't keep many secrets.
I just keep an eye out for signs of overdoing things.
And I haven't seen any yet, she's a smart kid, she'll be OK, just as her Dad & I turned out OK.

re: #210 HoosierHoops

I'll be going back to Indy next May for the race..It's the 100th anniversary of the track..

really?...what a bash that will be
I rode around the track on a bus one time...very chilling experience, especially when you come out of turn three and see the view down the front stretch...wow!

re: #211 b_sharp

You're younger and better looking than I am. Probably smarter too.

Hm.
No.
Maybe.
Prolly not.

I'll be 58 next month.

FIFTY-FRIKKEN'-EIGHT!

I don't know when it happened.
I don't FEEL 58 in my head.
But according to the birth cert (the real one) - that's what I'll be.
*sigh*

re: #209 sizzleRI

As a warning because I know you have a daughter who just started college, my stepfather has what he calls the "parental statute of limitations". Now that we're in our late 20s my sister and I disclose stupid/quasi-illegal/illegal things we did in high school and college. He would still prefer not to know.

Seven or eight years after we were married, my MIL felt the need to ask my wife about my stuff she had seen in her apartment. (English sucks at pronouns.)

re: #213 reine.de.tout

Oh, heck.
I know what she does, she doesn't keep many secrets.
I just keep an eye out for signs of overdoing things.
And I haven't seen any yet, she's a smart kid, she'll be OK, just as her Dad & I turned out OK.

Sounds like you and hubby are good parents. I'm sure your daughter values your trust.

re: #209 sizzleRI

As a warning because I know you have a daughter who just started college, my stepfather has what he calls the "parental statute of limitations". Now that we're in our late 20s my sister and I disclose stupid/quasi-illegal/illegal things we did in high school and college. He would still prefer not to know.

My son just turned 27, and he does that too occasionally. Gah! Don't want to know!

Hey all!

My lame HP laptop broke, again, and I have been going to major internet withdrawals. Luckily, my wonderful kid let me borrow his tonite. If I wasn't looking at a college bill in two years, I'd have been at the Apple Store yesterday.

How is everyone around here and does Charles still post about autism/vaccination issues?

re: #215 reine.de.tout

Hm.
No.
Maybe.
Prolly not.

I'll be 58 next month.

FIFTY-FRIKKEN'-EIGHT!

I don't know when it happened.
I don't FEEL 58 in my head.
But according to the birth cert (the real one) - that's what I'll be.
*sigh*

Mrs_Sharp and I were just talking about that on the drive home yesterday. She just turned 57 last week. I just turned 55 in August.

My head is still 20 something.

re: #215 reine.de.tout

Hm.
No.
Maybe.
Prolly not.

I'll be 58 next month.

FIFTY-FRIKKEN'-EIGHT!

I don't know when it happened.
I don't FEEL 58 in my head.
But according to the birth cert (the real one) - that's what I'll be.
*sigh*

Yeah, I look in the mirror now (when I get the nerve) and go, "Who hell is that? Surely, it can't be ME... *SIGH*

re: #219 ggt

Hey all!

My lame HP laptop broke, again, and I have been going to major internet withdrawals. Luckily, my wonderful kid let me borrow his tonite. If I wasn't looking at a college bill in two years, I'd have been at the Apple Store yesterday.

How is everyone around here and does Charles still post about autism/vaccination issues?

You mean like that idiot Wakefield?

re: #212 avanti

He bought that car for $35 in 1961 and raced it until the wreck. It broke his heart to see her die. More here:

[Link: www.americantorque.com...]

sounds like a living legend, and a HOFer too...guys like him are who the younger kids emulate...there are very passionate and colorful people hanging out at the drags...I love the scene

re: #219 ggt

Hey all!

My lame HP laptop broke, again, and I have been going to major internet withdrawals. Luckily, my wonderful kid let me borrow his tonite. If I wasn't looking at a college bill in two years, I'd have been at the Apple Store yesterday.

How is everyone around here and does Charles still post about autism/vaccination issues?

The vaxer crap seems to be in abeyance, but several of us are still interested in autism. Grand-daughter here.

re: #217 b_sharp

Sounds like you and hubby are good parents. I'm sure your daughter values your trust.

I just keep thinking back, when something happens that causes me to want to hyperventilate.

A friend of mine, years ago, when daughter was 10 or 11 and staying up late talking on the phone, gave me some most EXCELLENT advice when I asked her what I should do about it:

"You don't always have to DO something".

I try to DO SOMETHING when it's really big enough to warrant it. Otherwise, I may cringe inside (and pray a lot), but some things are phases she just has to go through.

re: #213 reine.de.tout

Oh, heck.
I know what she does, she doesn't keep many secrets.
I just keep an eye out for signs of overdoing things.
And I haven't seen any yet, she's a smart kid, she'll be OK, just as her Dad & I turned out OK.

I'm mostly teasing. The way you talk about her seems very honest and open. For all the problems I may have with my parents (and we all have some!), I value so much being able to talk to them. I just figure its probably hard to let your kid go at 18 and nice to hear that we mostly make it through.

re: #209 sizzleRI

As a warning because I know you have a daughter who just started college, my stepfather has what he calls the "parental statute of limitations". Now that we're in our late 20s my sister and I disclose stupid/quasi-illegal/illegal things we did in high school and college. He would still prefer not to know.

kudos to your step-dad for being a real dad!

re: #221 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I look in the mirror now (when I get the nerve) and go, "Who hell is that? Surely, it can't be ME... *SIGH*

I know for a fact that both of you are still gorgeous. If you doubt me, ask your husbands.

re: #222 b_sharp

You mean like that idiot Wakefield?

Yeah, I just saw a post about it on facebook and wondered if it was still a hot topic around here.

Jenny McCarthy --bleh!

re: #226 sizzleRI

I'm mostly teasing. The way you talk about her seems very honest and open. For all the problems I may have with my parents (and we all have some!), I value so much being able to talk to them. I just figure its probably hard to let your kid go at 18 and nice to hear that we mostly make it through.

Yes, thank you!
It is nice to hear that you mostly make it through

I was 18 once, and I made it through, and so will my kid.
Wish I could redo some things, but hey - it is what it is.

re: #225 reine.de.tout

I just keep thinking back, when something happens that causes me to want to hyperventilate.

A friend of mine, years ago, when daughter was 10 or 11 and staying up late talking on the phone, gave me some most EXCELLENT advice when I asked her what I should do about it:

"You don't always have to DO something".

I try to DO SOMETHING when it's really big enough to warrant it. Otherwise, I may cringe inside (and pray a lot), but some things are phases she just has to go through.

in-action IS action.

re: #120 ausador

OT: "Best medical care in the world" my ass, this system sucks. Now they want to kick Dad out of the hospital physical therapy unit early because he isn't making the "expected progress."

So I can sign him up for Hospice care and maybe, possibly, bring him home, but he has to give up the chemo treatments that are extending his life. I can send him to a nursing home for extended physical therapy while paying about $42.00 a day (until day 100, then we have to pay it all, over $6,000 a month) also with no chemo. Or I can bring him home with only a daily visit from a nurse not much better than a candy striper to help and somehow attempt to get him to his chemo appointments.

If his skin wasn't so fragile that it tears when you lift him, and he didn't weigh 250lbs, option three would be a no brainer. I need to give this some thought and spend the weekend trying to figure out of there is anything else I can do...

All I know is I put Mom in a nursing home for rehab and twelve days later she was dead, I don't want a repeat. I also know that Dad wants to die at home, I would like to try to make that happen, I just have to figure out how to do it.

Take a look at this website. There's a link there: [Link: www.eldercare.gov...] that might be helpful.

For two years, when my mom fell into the donut hole (she's also on life saving medication) it was going to cost her $9,000 for her meds. She found two different agencies to pay her costs. Well she paid some. I think you said $42 a month? She pays $30 something. Anyway, it's affordable. One agency was a philanthropic group, I think the Lions, but I'll ask her about it and if you like, I can ask her who she contacted. I know they make you fill out an application to determine if you're truly at the poverty level. Although the definition of poverty isn't the same across the board. One of her agencies took anyone under $40K a year.

Obamacare, btw, what the GOP wishes to repeal, actually helped her through the donut hole this year.

Unfortunately, you have to be diligent with this stuff. Help is there, but you have to look for it. Much luck, ((ausador)).

re: #169 b_sharp

Straight line, always. Otherwise, how do you know how fast you are going?

re: #227 ggt

Not to get too emotional, but he really is. And my real dad (bio I guess) has always been around too. He loved me and my sister even knowing he would never get full credit for being our "dad". I just feel very lucky for that. My stepfather jokes it took three of them (my dad, mom, and him) to be able to handle me and my sister.

we are all such beautiful people...maybe we are angels?

re: #234 sizzleRI

Not to get too emotional, but he really is. And my real dad (bio I guess) has always been around too. He loved me and my sister even knowing he would never get full credit for being our "dad". I just feel very lucky for that. My stepfather jokes it took three of them (my dad, mom, and him) to be able to handle me and my sister.

Sounds like you lucked out all the way around!

re: #235 albusteve

we are all such beautiful people...maybe we are angels?

You've got that bong all to yourself, doncha?

re: #233 prairiefire

Straight line, always. Otherwise, how do you know how fast you are going?

yeah baby...you got it, slam the pedal to the floor and hang on

re: #226 sizzleRI

I'm mostly teasing. The way you talk about her seems very honest and open. For all the problems I may have with my parents (and we all have some!), I value so much being able to talk to them. I just figure its probably hard to let your kid go at 18 and nice to hear that we mostly make it through.

It's hard to let them go at 18, but they'll be back (with spouses/kids) in their 20's. I used to have 5 hostages to Fate, now I have 13.

re: #234 sizzleRI

Not to get too emotional, but he really is. And my real dad (bio I guess) has always been around too. He loved me and my sister even knowing he would never get full credit for being our "dad". I just feel very lucky for that. My stepfather jokes it took three of them (my dad, mom, and him) to be able to handle me and my sister.

You are VERY lucky! Hug both your dad's for me. (tell them it's from a 20-something tall blonde, they won't know any better)

re: #225 reine.de.tout

I just keep thinking back, when something happens that causes me to want to hyperventilate.

A friend of mine, years ago, when daughter was 10 or 11 and staying up late talking on the phone, gave me some most EXCELLENT advice when I asked her what I should do about it:

"You don't always have to DO something".

I try to DO SOMETHING when it's really big enough to warrant it. Otherwise, I may cringe inside (and pray a lot), but some things are phases she just has to go through.

That is some really good advice and is something I practice with my grandson. My daughter is far too busy doing things with him so I do my best to give him a relaxed environment in which to recover.

re: #237 reine.de.tout

You've got that bong all to yourself, doncha?

no, what bong?

re: #239 Decatur Deb

Oh yeah, we come back. And go. And then back. But you guys like that, right???

re: #242 albusteve

no, what bong?

WE have bongs in the sekrit bunker? Now, we really need Walter to replenish the Oreos!

re: #244 ggt

WE have bongs in the sekrit bunker? Now, we really need Walter to replenish the Oreos!

french fries.

re: #229 ggt

Yeah, I just saw a post about it on facebook and wondered if it was still a hot topic around here.

Jenny McCarthy --bleh!

That group will just leave Wakefield to the dogs and follow somebody else.

re: #235 albusteve

we are all such beautiful people...maybe we are angels?

According to Disraeli (and others), "Half ape, half angel." The mixture may vary.

re: #233 prairiefire

Straight line, always. Otherwise, how do you know how fast you are going?

Hit the wall.

re: #241 b_sharp

That is some really good advice and is something I practice with my grandson. My daughter is far too busy doing things with him so I do my best to give him a relaxed environment in which to recover.

That's exactly why God made grandparents, IMO!

re: #228 b_sharp

I know for a fact that both of you are still gorgeous. If you doubt me, ask your husbands.

Well, if I had one I would. But thanks for the kind words. ;o)

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Well, if I had one I would. But thanks for the kind words. ;o)

OK, special other. I know you have someone who would agree with me.

Where is Walter BTW?