President Obama’s Tucson Speech
Well, I just have one comment after watching the President’s speech: what an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s shallow statement. A Grand Canyon of contrast.
Well done, Mr. President.
Well, I just have one comment after watching the President’s speech: what an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s shallow statement. A Grand Canyon of contrast.
Well done, Mr. President.
3 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:59pm |
re: #1 brookly red
he spoke well...
It's called speaking from the heart, despite your detractors. Others should follow his example.
4 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:13pm |
5 | Jeff In Ohio Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:22pm |
This is why he's the President and the rest are crows cackling in the trees.
6 | Merryweather Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:46pm |
Just what the doctor ordered. A truly great speech by a truly great human being.
7 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:46pm |
re: #1 brookly red
he spoke well...
You know you are an asshole. I wish you would repeat some of the words of this speech to yourself as you go to sleep tonight. But no, you don't have a fucking unpartisian heart.
Fuck you for always being the downer.
8 | Nadnerb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:22:05pm |
So incredibly well done. Inspiring and uplifting, just what we need now. Thank you Obama for your words.
9 | lostlakehiker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:22:13pm |
Truly an excellent speech. Not just the delivery, but the content. He must have worked very hard on it; speechwriters don't have it in them to craft that kind of honest, from-the-heart stuff.
10 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:22:25pm |
Maybe he does deserve that Nobel Peace prize now.
11 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:23:01pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
You know you are an asshole. I wish you would repeat some of the words of this speech to yourself as you go to sleep tonight. But no, you don't have a fucking unpartisian heart.
Fuck you for always being the downer.
maybe a few deep breaths & a cup of tea? sheesh
12 | abolitionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:23:24pm |
Good speech. Liked that part about "hand over your heart" --something he'd received much criticism over.
13 | zora Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:23:49pm |
well done indeed. the tone was pitch perfect. the victims and heroes were honored well. the american family rules! 300 mil strong. so proud obama is my pres.
14 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:23:50pm |
re: #9 lostlakehiker
Truly an excellent speech. Not just the delivery, but the content. He must have worked very hard on it; speechwriters don't have it in them to craft that kind of honest, from-the-heart stuff.
He writes most of his own speeches, and those that speechwriters prepare are revised, revised, revised, until he agrees with every word. It's part of what makes him such a great statesman. It would suck to be an Obama speechwriter, because he'd work your ass off.
16 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:05pm |
Btw, I noticed the Kay in Maine is no longer on the plain lol Good move.
17 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:11pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
You know you are an asshole. I wish you would repeat some of the words of this speech to yourself as you go to sleep tonight. But no, you don't have a fucking unpartisian heart.
Fuck you for always being the downer.
What the fuck is wrong with his comment. Did you see his other comment toward the end of the last thread... another positive comment about the speech.
I think you your heart jumps to partisan conclusions.
18 | avanti Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:36pm |
Hot Air comment:
"I’m betting that the 20-year-old staffer who helped save Giffords’ life is an illegal immigrant and that he’ll be the poster child for the next-go-round."
19 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:16pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
It's a good time to let personal beefs go for a few hours.
20 | researchok Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:17pm |
re: #16 marjoriemoon
Btw, I noticed the Kay in Maine is no longer on the plain lol Good move.
OD on patchouli?
21 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:21pm |
"But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another."
Sorry, Mr. President. That hasn't seemed to have stopped us.
22 | Merryweather Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:22pm |
I think Sarah Palin is going to really regret the timing of her nasty, divisive statement. She now looks extremely small, especially compared to Obama. When will she learn to think before she speaks? (Answer: Never)
23 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:35pm |
25 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:51pm |
26 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:54pm |
Man I just caught the end of it and heard the last of Obama's speech, sounded good.
It was weird to hear all the cheering afterward, it sounded like a political rally. But I guess he knocked it out of the park. I'll have to get the recording.
27 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:09pm |
re: #18 avanti
Bah. Fuck those people. Let them stew in their impotent rage.
28 | zora Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:11pm |
re: #16 marjoriemoon
Btw, I noticed the Kay in Maine is no longer on the plain lol Good move.
what happened?
29 | Kruk Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:11pm |
"I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it to be. I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it to be."
I just about cried at that point. He speaks for all of us, American and non-American alike, who believe America is something much better, something much greater than people would have you believe. It's a concept, an ideal, a goal that may never be achieved, but we have to keep trying to get there.
30 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:21pm |
re: #22 Merryweather
I think Sarah Palin is going to really regret the timing of her nasty, divisive statement. She now looks extremely small, especially compared to Obama. When will she learn to think before she speaks? (Answer: Never)
She doesn't have the mental capacity to understand the difference between what she said and what the President said tonight. Her followers probably don't see the difference, either.
32 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:28pm |
re: #16 marjoriemoon
She is a former lizard? She was dumb.
33 | researchok Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:41pm |
34 | Fozzie Bear Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:50pm |
Palin fell on her own sword today. She's done. Stick a fork in her.
35 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:27:00pm |
re: #17 Walter L. Newton
What the fuck is wrong with his comment. Did you see his other comment toward the end of the last thread... another positive comment about the speech.
I think you your heart jumps to partisan conclusions.
look I think " shut up and listen" said it all... there is no pleasing some people.
36 | Girth Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:27:14pm |
re: #29 Kruk
"I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it to be. I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it to be."
I just about cried at that point. He speaks for all of us, American and non-American alike, who believe America is something much better, something much greater than people would have you believe. It's a concept, an ideal, a goal that may never be achieved, but we have to keep trying to get there.
Same here.
37 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:27:17pm |
38 | researchok Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:27:46pm |
39 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:27:58pm |
re: #34 Fozzie Bear
Palin fell on her own sword today. She's done. Stick a fork in her.
She falls on her own sword every day. Doesn't do any good.
40 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:10pm |
42 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:17pm |
re: #29 Kruk
I just about cried at that point.
I damn near lost it when he got to the "rain puddles in Heaven" line. My god.
43 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:26pm |
re: #29 Kruk
"I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it to be. I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it to be."
Yes, that was pretty heavy, I tuned in just before that.
44 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:52pm |
re: #34 Fozzie Bear
Palin fell on her own sword today. She's done. Stick a fork in her.
gee, I thought the tread was about Obama...
45 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:55pm |
re: #17 Walter L. Newton
What the fuck is wrong with his comment. Did you see his other comment toward the end of the last thread... another positive comment about the speech.
I think you your heart jumps to partisan conclusions.
Give me a break. I've been here long enough. Brookly is an ass who just loves to populate the blog with his asshole statements.
hmmm
46 | Linden Arden Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:58pm |
Justice Kennedy there - a symbol of the middle in a divided 4-4 partisan country.
47 | SpaceJesus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:29:00pm |
palin's bucket of mud and lies was trumped hard by obama's class today
48 | JamesWI Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:29:04pm |
Just remember folks:
People telling Sarah Palin and other right-wingers to stop talking about armed revolution and using all kinds of violent rhetoric......
Is just the same as.......
People saying Jews kill Christian children to get their blood.
Remember the real victims, people.......Sarah Palin and conservatives everywhere.
49 | Nadnerb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:29:13pm |
re: #29 Kruk
"I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it to be. I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it to be."
I just about cried at that point. He speaks for all of us, American and non-American alike, who believe America is something much better, something much greater than people would have you believe. It's a concept, an ideal, a goal that may never be achieved, but we have to keep trying to get there.
Really, the best part that...
50 | zora Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:29:15pm |
re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist
Banstick got her.
damn. i thought she might be a keeper. should have got the sweet pea ice cream recipe.
51 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:29:27pm |
53 | prairiefire Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:05pm |
re: #16 marjoriemoon
Btw, I noticed the Kay in Maine is no longer on the plain lol Good move.
I like breathless enthusiasm, just not crazy breathless enthusiasm.
54 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:05pm |
Since Dark wanted a talking points LGF LOL-Troll cat, here is the squeaky wheel getting the grease
55 | Girth Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:06pm |
HIghlights for me, the beginning and the end.
The blessing was fantastic and I could hear the heads exploding across the country, and Obama's conclusion was one of the best Presidential moments I can remember in my lifetime.
56 | albusteve Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:07pm |
a reasonable speech...fairly average, it didn't rock my world....best part was he didn't mess it up....all in all, good enough
57 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:09pm |
Boehner offered a seat on AF1 by President Obama. He stayed in Washington to host a cocktail party for the Republican Party. Hold the fucking tears, Boehner, when you get grilled for your insensitivity.
58 | Fozzie Bear Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:21pm |
re: #39 darthstar
Her political career is over, and her brand is tainted. She pursued celebrity, got it, and now she's only got a cult following.
59 | Merryweather Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:48pm |
re: #39 darthstar
She falls on her own sword every day. Doesn't do any good.
She's made so many should-be-career-ending moves over the last couple of years (quitting being the prime example), and yet she's still being taken seriously.
And they said Reagan was made of Teflon.
60 | Alexzander Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:54pm |
There are a lot of great moments in the speech. Here is a very salient one:
If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should, let’s make sure it’s worthy of those we have lost. Let’s make sure it’s not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.
(Repost - didn't realise we moved onto a new thread)
61 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:31:02pm |
re: #29 Kruk
"I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it to be. I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it to be."
As I said in the previous thread, THAT is a grand slam in speech form. Frickin' beautiful...
62 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:31:03pm |
re: #53 prairiefire
I like breathless enthusiasm, just not crazy breathless enthusiasm.
Honestly, you summed that up very well, my dear.
63 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:31:13pm |
64 | recusancy Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:31:56pm |
re: #56 albusteve
a reasonable speech...fairly average, it didn't rock my world...best part was he didn't mess it up...all in all, good enough
A non amateur would have done better right?
65 | researchok Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:32:04pm |
Krauthammer gives great props to Obama speech all around.
Nice.
66 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:32:13pm |
re: #56 albusteve
If those are your standards for average and reasonable, I'd hate to see what you consider a barn burner speech.
68 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:32:43pm |
re: #57 darthstar
Boehner offered a seat on AF1 by President Obama. He stayed in Washington to host a cocktail party for the Republican Party. Hold the fucking tears, Boehner, when you get grilled for your insensitivity.
What is this? Is this true?
Boehner standing behind the President would have been a significant statement on many levels. It would be a shame if that opportunity existed and was passed.
69 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:32:55pm |
It's really good news about Congresswoman Gifford!
I hope it continues.
Nicely done, Mr. President.
70 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:13pm |
re: #18 avanti
What a terrible person. Even if he was an illegal, I'd take a hundred of him in exchange for a thousand of people like this horrible jerk.
71 | researchok Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:28pm |
72 | Girth Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:31pm |
re: #65 researchok
Krauthammer gives great props to Obama speech all around.
Nice.
Must have taken his anti-ODS meds tonight.
73 | recusancy Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:35pm |
re: #67 Girth
Well, let's see what Fox has to say...
They're breaking it down like they're speech instructors in a high school speech class.
74 | CuriousLurker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:43pm |
re: #29 Kruk
"I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it to be. I want America to be as good as Christina imagined it to be."
I just about cried at that point. He speaks for all of us, American and non-American alike, who believe America is something much better, something much greater than people would have you believe. It's a concept, an ideal, a goal that may never be achieved, but we have to keep trying to get there.
I DID start blubbering at that point and didn't stop till he was done. Beautiful speech. Well done, Mr. President, you did us proud.
75 | albusteve Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:47pm |
give your opinion and get slammed every time....LOL
76 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:47pm |
77 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:54pm |
re: #56 albusteve
a reasonable speech...fairly average, it didn't rock my world...best part was he didn't mess it up...all in all, good enough
It was important because it's what the country needed. The speech doesn't have anything to do with what you think of President Obama, if you agree with him in any sort of way, or if you wish he would just disappear. That has nothing to do with it. It doesn't even have anything to do with even if he believed a single word he said.
What is important is he said it... and hopefully everyone listening will pause one fucking minute, and I mean everybody, and absorb the meaning behind the words he spoke.
Words do have meaning... and that works both ways.
78 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:55pm |
re: #51 BigPapa
Worth your time. Was a lovely speech.
Funny, the first time I saw the "hero's" of the day. 22 year old kid with a machine gun pistol (for lack of a better word) taken out by the Golden Girls.
Fuckin' poetic. HUZZAH!
79 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:34:19pm |
re: #77 Walter L. Newton
It was important because it's what the country needed. The speech doesn't have anything to do with what you think of President Obama, if you agree with him in any sort of way, or if you wish he would just disappear. That has nothing to do with it. It doesn't even have anything to do with even if he believed a single word he said.
What is important is he said it... and hopefully everyone listening will pause one fucking minute, and I mean everybody, and absorb the meaning behind the words he spoke.
Words do have meaning... and that works both ways.
Now... waiting for the down dings...
80 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:34:19pm |
re: #68 BigPapa
What is this? Is this true?
Boehner standing behind the President would have been a significant statement on many levels. It would be a shame if that opportunity existed and was passed.
Boehner not standing behind the President is a significant statement. It's half-time folks.
81 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:34:46pm |
82 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:34:55pm |
re: #73 recusancy
They're breaking it down like they're speech instructors in a high school speech class.
How many times did he use the word "I"?
83 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:35:16pm |
85 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:35:22pm |
re: #73 recusancy
Pfft. As if any of those Stepford robots would know what they're talking about. =P
87 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:35:36pm |
re: #68 BigPapa
What is this? Is this true?
Boehner standing behind the President would have been a significant statement on many levels. It would be a shame if that opportunity existed and was passed.
Rachel Maddow reported it, so I'm guessing it's true.
89 | bratwurst Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:35:53pm |
re: #66 Lidane
If those are your standards for average and reasonable, I'd hate to see what you consider a barn burner speech.
I would say that the fact Steve didn't call the President a drooler or an idiot means it WAS a barn burner!
90 | BryanS Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:01pm |
People are sick of gutter politics, and he gave the speech that the country needed and wanted. Obama did what a president should do in this case--stayed above the fray and represented the country well. I'm reminded of the moment when I listened to Reagan explain the Challenger disaster to school children and adults alike. I think he just bought himself a whole lot of good will from the American people with this speech, and who knows, maybe from his political foes.
91 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:13pm |
And why doesn't everyone stop the sniping? We don't you all discuss THE SPEECH and what we can do to put something of what he said to practical use?
92 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:22pm |
re: #74 CuriousLurker
The rain puddles part made me cry a little. He basically dedicated the speech to Christina and I didn't expect that.
Obama has a 9 year old daughter and it showed.
93 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:39pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
How many times did he use the word "I"?
well I was pleasantly surprised that it was not so often, as I said he spoke well.
94 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:43pm |
95 | zora Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:46pm |
re: #76 Lidane
Yes, it's true:
[Link: www.rollcall.com...]
in all fairness, he can't go to schools. they make him cry.
96 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:48pm |
re: #75 albusteve
give your opinion and get slammed every time...LOL
I still love you even if you are a gun totin wacko.
You have good taste in music anyway.
97 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:36:52pm |
re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal
That picture broke my heart.
98 | Big Joe Ghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:19pm |
I can't believe I up-dinged Walter. Maybe you will grow on me.
99 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:19pm |
re: #67 Girth
Well, let's see what Fox has to say...
Well right this moment it's quite good actually.
Talking about Christina Green reference and living up to expectations.
"Good conversation to have" etc..
"Pulled on the heartstrings.."
100 | CuriousLurker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:25pm |
re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal
The rain puddles part made me cry a little. He basically dedicated the speech to Christina and I didn't expect that.
Obama has a 9 year old daughter and it showed.
Yeah, you know he had to be thinking about them.
101 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:33pm |
re: #18 avanti
Hot Air comment:
"I’m betting that the 20-year-old staffer who helped save Giffords’ life is an illegal immigrant and that he’ll be the poster child for the next-go-round."
WTF? That's like those BNP assholes who verbally attacked the British soldier who won the Victoria Cross in Iraq because he is of West Indian origin. Such words are utterly depraved.
102 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:48pm |
103 | albusteve Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:49pm |
re: #77 Walter L. Newton
It was important because it's what the country needed. The speech doesn't have anything to do with what you think of President Obama, if you agree with him in any sort of way, or if you wish he would just disappear. That has nothing to do with it. It doesn't even have anything to do with even if he believed a single word he said.
What is important is he said it... and hopefully everyone listening will pause one fucking minute, and I mean everybody, and absorb the meaning behind the words he spoke.
Words do have meaning... and that works both ways.
it was an okay speech...I think under the circumstances he is sort of limited with what he can convey and therefore somewhat predictable, but he covered all the bases...that's the way it is...I would have expected pretty much the same from anybody
104 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:50pm |
CNN is now explaining the President to the American people. Idiots.
105 | webevintage Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:38:02pm |
"our hearts are broken by their sudden passing"
It was just a lovely speech and I think the cheers and applause was a cathartic reaction to the pain the people in Tuscon have been dealing with for days. It was a memorial, but also a celebration of life.
106 | Fozzie Bear Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:38:25pm |
re: #104 Decatur Deb
CNN is now explaining the President to the American people. Idiots.
That speech requires no explanation.
107 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:38:40pm |
re: #104 Decatur Deb
CNN is now explaining the President to the American people. Idiots.
CNN or the people?
108 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:38:41pm |
re: #42 Lidane
I damn near lost it when he got to the "rain puddles in Heaven" line. My god.
I've got to quote President Bartlet:
"We did not expect nor did we invite a confrontation with evil. Yet the true measure of a people's strength is how they rise to master that moment when it does arrive...The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels tonight. They're our students and our teachers and our parents and our friends. The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels, but every time we think we have measured our capacity to meet a challenge, we look up and we're reminded that that capacity may well be limitless. This is a time for American heroes. We will do what is hard. We will achieve what is great. This is a time for American heroes and we reach for the stars."
109 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:39:22pm |
111 | recusancy Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:39:30pm |
re: #105 webevintage
"our hearts are broken by their sudden passing"
It was just a lovely speech and I think the cheers and applause was a cathartic reaction to the pain the people in Tuscon have been dealing with for days. It was a memorial, but also a celebration of life.
Part of it was cathartic but part of it also was idiot kids. I say that as barely older then an idiot kid.
112 | Bubblehead II Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:39:33pm |
113 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:39:46pm |
re: #104 Decatur Deb
CNN is now explaining the President to the American people. Idiots.
They don't know what to say. I swear, Wolf Blitzer is a dolt.
114 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:39:49pm |
re: #50 zora
damn. i thought she might be a keeper. should have got the sweet pea ice cream recipe.
Turned out to be an anti-Semite who wants to kill 'Conservanazis'. Not a keeper.
Sorry about the ice cream.
:(
115 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:39:53pm |
re: #100 CuriousLurker
Yeah, you know he had to be thinking about them.
Any father of young children would be thinking of them at a time like that.
116 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:40:08pm |
re: #103 albusteve
it was an okay speech...I think under the circumstances he is sort of limited with what he can convey and therefore somewhat predictable, but he covered all the bases...that's the way it is...I would have expected pretty much the same from anybody
well yes, but he did it well this time.
117 | abbyadams Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:40:30pm |
re: #105 webevintage
I don't get the problem with the applause. I won't lie - I wished the audience would have toned it down a little. But I can and will not tell people how to act at a community memorial service when I am not in that community. This is not about me. Or anybody on #tcot, or DKos either.
118 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:40:36pm |
119 | ProGunLiberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:05pm |
re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal
I still have tears in my eyes about that. Though I am a fairly emotional person.
120 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:07pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
Turned out to be an anti-Semite who wants to kill 'Conservanazis'. Not a keeper.
Sorry about the ice cream.
:(
It's a terrible loss to science. If only we had a reliable containment facility.
121 | researchok Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:13pm |
Krauthammer:
'Speech was quite remarkable...successful'.
122 | abbyadams Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:25pm |
re: #113 marjoriemoon
Would that I could upding you many more times for that. Wolf needs to hang it up.
123 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:28pm |
re: #59 Merryweather
She's made so many should-be-career-ending moves over the last couple of years (quitting being the prime example), and yet she's still being taken seriously.
And they said Reagan was made of Teflon.
I thought Clinton was the Teflon president.
124 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:50pm |
125 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:41:58pm |
re: #61 Dante41
As I said in the previous thread, THAT is a grand slam in speech form. Frickin' beautiful...
It's stunning.
It will be immediately attacked.
126 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:42:30pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
Both.
///Don't let Buck hear you say that or else he'll be all over here with how the people of LGF are sure that "the masses are asses"
127 | Reginald Perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:42:34pm |
re: #18 avanti
Hot Air comment:
"I’m betting that the 20-year-old staffer who helped save Giffords’ life is an illegal immigrant and that he’ll be the poster child for the next-go-round."
Some of the more deranged blogs have talk of the President claiming to have been responsible for Gabby opening her eyes. They claim it is proof of his Messiah complex.
128 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:42:35pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
It's stunning.
It will be immediately attacked.
Well Fox is holding back for a bit at least.
129 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:42:45pm |
re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist
I thought Clinton was the Teflon president.
Clinton was the doubleknit wool president.
130 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:43:05pm |
re: #70 moderatelyradicalliberal
What a terrible person. Even if he was an illegal, I'd take a hundred of him in exchange for a thousand of people like this horrible jerk.
Yeah. If he's illegal, let's find out where to get some more.
That said, I seriously doubt he is.
131 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:43:12pm |
re: #127 Reginald Perrin
Some of the more deranged blogs have talk of the President claiming to have been responsible for Gabby opening her eyes. They claim it is proof of his Messiah complex.
Talk about reading what you want into something.
Wow.
132 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:43:58pm |
re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh I'm sure he's a citizen too.
133 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:01pm |
re: #121 researchok
Krauthammer:
'Speech was quite remarkable...successful'.
He's a smart man and quite insightful. Thankfully Fox News put three sane people on its panel. Even Fox understands that this is not the time to hate on anyone.
134 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:37pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm not so sure. With the backlash that has been happening, coupled with this amazing speech that called for unity, instead of trying to demonize the Right, I don't think anyone in their right mind would try and attack it.
The usual suspects have been out of their minds for a while, of course.
135 | zora Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:41pm |
re: #112 Bubblehead II
Typical Jew Basher/Troofer meltdown.
and she seemed all fuzzy and cute, too. soon as i turned my head she turned into a gremlin. oh, well.
136 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:41pm |
re: #133 Dark_Falcon
They're saving that for tomorrow or Friday. =P
137 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:53pm |
Fox: President behaved with dignity and grace.
138 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:56pm |
re: #122 abbyadams
Would that I could upding you many more times for that. Wolf needs to hang it up.
lol He was talking on Sunday. I never watch TV news, but I wanted updates. I wish I could remember what he asked one of the witnesses at the rally/meeting. It was so freaking stupid, I left the room.
139 | BryanS Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:45:52pm |
re: #103 albusteve
it was an okay speech...I think under the circumstances he is sort of limited with what he can convey and therefore somewhat predictable, but he covered all the bases...that's the way it is...I would have expected pretty much the same from anybody
No, I think you are incorrect to think that just about anyone would have given the same speech. Look--I don't agree with much of Obama's politics. But he could have injected partisan undertones and he went out of his way not to. I for instance would not have expected this speech from Bill Clinton. Oh sure, Clinton would have had those emotional moments in his speech, but I don't think he would have avoided putting more blame on partisanship itself.
141 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:46:38pm |
re: #117 abbyadams
I don't get the problem with the applause. I won't lie - I wished the audience would have toned it down a little. But I can and will not tell people how to act at a community memorial service when I am not in that community. This is not about me. Or anybody on #tcot, or DKos either.
The applause really only bothered me when Obama was talking about the people who were killed. That just didn't feel right to me.
I didn't mind the applause for Gabrielle's husband or for Daniel Hernandez.
142 | albusteve Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:46:51pm |
re: #137 Jadespring
Fox: President behaved with dignity and grace.
well duh...good call Fox
nothing like having an indignant and disgraceful POTUS at your service
143 | abbyadams Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:47:01pm |
re: #138 marjoriemoon
"HAPPENING NOW" = Nails on chalkboard. He may be a good journalist, but I think he rode his name and coverage of Desert Storm into more than he's qualified for.
144 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:47:43pm |
re: #133 Dark_Falcon
He's a smart man and quite insightful. Thankfully Fox News put three sane people on its panel. Even Fox understands that this is not the time to hate on anyone.
I can't get to a TV at the moment, but I assume that Shep Smith is one of them?
145 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:47:45pm |
146 | BryanS Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:48:10pm |
re: #121 researchok
Krauthammer:
'Speech was quite remarkable...successful'.
Krauthammer is right--he usually is, in particular when he identifies a strength in his political opponenst.
147 | albusteve Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:48:16pm |
re: #139 BryanS
No, I think you are incorrect to think that just about anyone would have given the same speech. Look--I don't agree with much of Obama's politics. But he could have injected partisan undertones and he went out of his way not to. I for instance would not have expected this speech from Bill Clinton. Oh sure, Clinton would have had those emotional moments in his speech, but I don't think he would have avoided putting more blame on partisanship itself.
partisan undertones are out of the question at this point....nobody is that stupid
148 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:48:21pm |
re: #139 BryanS
Also, he basically dedicated the speech to the little girl who was killed and I don't think that was expected by anyone. The speech was for her and by extension all of American's children. As I said before President Obama has a 9 year-old daughter, and it really showed where his heart is.
149 | Fozzie Bear Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:48:31pm |
"He behaved with dignity and grace"
translation: he's so well spoken for a black man.
150 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:48:35pm |
re: #144 Dante41
Have they let Shep out of his studio or on a panel since he said that we don't torture?
151 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:49:13pm |
re: #141 Charles
The applause really only bothered me when Obama was talking about the people who were killed. That just didn't feel right to me.
I didn't mind the applause for Gabrielle's husband or for Daniel Hernandez.
I took a cue from Christina's parents. Her mother really clapped when he he first talked about her. I figure that if they seemed okay with it then it was okay.
152 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:49:45pm |
re: #148 moderatelyradicalliberal
As I said before President Obama has a 9 year-old daughter, and it really showed where his heart is.
Yep. You could see how strongly that little girl's death affected him. It was powerful stuff.
153 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:49:58pm |
re: #144 Dante41
Actually he isn't. Krauthammer, Wallace and Hume.
154 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:11pm |
re: #150 Lidane
Have they let Shep out of his studio or on a panel since he said that we don't torture?
Oh yes. He is their go-to guy when news happens. Sort of like Peter Jennings. Even Fox realizes that they have a genuine newsman on their hands.
155 | BryanS Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:17pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
It's stunning.
It will be immediately attacked.
I don't think it will...but we'll see. Leading by magnanimous example is pretty impervious to petty attack.
156 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:17pm |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
"He behaved with dignity and grace"
translation: he's so well spoken for a black man.
Nah, not in this case. There was more to it then just that phrase.
157 | Bubblehead II Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:23pm |
re: #135 zora
and she seemed all fuzzy and cute, too. soon as i turned my head she turned into a gremlin. oh, well.
If it still up, click on her nick and go through her Blog. Bad Crazy there. BTW, Did you know Dick Cheney was responsible for the Anthrax attacks?
Yeah, She/it is that loony.
158 | Reginald Perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:23pm |
partisan undertones are out of the question at this point...nobody is that stupid
Someone should tell that to Ms. Palin.
159 | Big Joe Ghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:28pm |
re: #141 Charles
It seemed to me the applause was over miked, they seemed to have cut it after the president spoke. I missed the earlier part of the ceremony.
160 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:34pm |
161 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:44pm |
re: #144 Dante41
I can't get to a TV at the moment, but I assume that Shep Smith is one of them?
No. Brett Baer is hosting. The panel consists of Brit Hume, Chris Wallace and Charles Krauthammer.
162 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:50:54pm |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
Dammit. C'mon fozzie... not fair.
163 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:51:08pm |
re: #120 Decatur Deb
It's a terrible loss to science. If only we had a reliable containment facility.
Oh, hell, you if want more, I can go down to Sproul Plaza with a butterfly net and get you a whole bunch of them.
164 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:51:53pm |
Well, I had my crisis today. One neighbor gave me some food and another gave me a pack of cigarettes.
165 | celticdragon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:51:57pm |
re: #18 avanti
Hot Air comment:
"I’m betting that the 20-year-old staffer who helped save Giffords’ life is an illegal immigrant and that he’ll be the poster child for the next-go-round."
He is also gay. Wait untill they start on that. A gay Latino hero. They will go fucking insane with that.
166 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:52:09pm |
re: #163 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, hell, you if want more, I can go down to Sproul Plaza with a butterfly net and get you a whole bunch of them.
But this one was ours.
167 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:04pm |
G'night folks.
One night of kindness. Let's hope for just one night of kindness.
168 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:19pm |
re: #165 celticdragon
Oh hey, cd! Long time, no see. You still purgin' heretics for the Emperor?
169 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:32pm |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
"He behaved with dignity and grace"
translation: he's so well spoken for a black man.
No. Charles Krauthammer is no racist. He meant exactly what he said.
170 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:40pm |
re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dammit. C'mon fozzie... not fair.
I agree. That sort of thing was not and under tone at all when he was talking.
171 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:43pm |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
G'night folks.
One night of kindness. Let's hope for just one night of kindness.
See 164.
172 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:57pm |
re: #135 zora
and she seemed all fuzzy and cute, too. soon as i turned my head she turned into a gremlin. oh, well.
Did someone feed Kay after midnight?
DAMNIT!
173 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:53:57pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
Well....? Which did you use/eat and which did you shit can??
174 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:13pm |
BTW Tucson has great Pizza. Who knew? If you ever go...Papa Johns.
175 | Bubblehead II Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:17pm |
176 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:18pm |
re: #169 Dark_Falcon
Yeah, I think so too. He pulled no punches and there was no snark. He spoke plainly.
177 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:21pm |
Hey, I apologize for shitting the thread. Lucky me had to go to the store and heard NPR re-playing the speech. I'm good.
Sorry
178 | Alexzander Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:38pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
Well, I had my crisis today. One neighbor gave me some food and another gave me a pack of cigarettes.
???
179 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:51pm |
re: #173 reloadingisnotahobby
Well...? Which did you use/eat and which did you shit can??
I'm still working on it. Smoking on of the cigarettes now. Won't throw out anything.
180 | abbyadams Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:55:05pm |
re: #141 Charles
I agree with you, but I'm trying to not let my personal experiences prevent me from seeing it another way. I wasn't there on Saturday, thank God...so I don't know what that community needs. I don't think I would act like that at a memorial. However, maybe the feel of the room is different than what I feel in my living room.
There are people on other boards absolutely apoplectic about the applause. It made me uncomfortable, but I'm reluctant to say that it's completely wrong.
181 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:55:25pm |
re: #174 Rightwingconspirator
BTW Tucson has great Pizza. Who knew? If you ever go...Papa Johns.
Is that the place where John McCain promises to serve you just what the people want and then brings you a pizza smothered with Alaskan Fruitcake?
182 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:55:41pm |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
"He behaved with dignity and grace"
translation: he's so well spoken for a black man.
I'm not going to read that in.
183 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:55:54pm |
re: #80 Decatur Deb
Boehner not standing behind the President is a significant statement. It's half-time folks.
Yes, true. He didn't do anything necessarily wrong by not being there, but it would have been the right thing to do.
Opportunity for the country lost.
185 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:56:48pm |
re: #177 Stanley Sea
Sorry my ass...hand me a beer!
...;-)
186 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:56:50pm |
re: #117 abbyadams
I don't get the problem with the applause. I won't lie - I wished the audience would have toned it down a little. But I can and will not tell people how to act at a community memorial service when I am not in that community. This is not about me. Or anybody on #tcot, or DKos either.
It was in a basketball arena which are designed to amplify crowd noise, FWIW.
188 | celticdragon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:57:11pm |
re: #168 Dante41
Oh hey, cd! Long time, no see. You still purgin' heretics for the Emperor?
Heh! I played my chaos army this last weekend and it was a masacre. The Imperial Guard went down hard...
I had a bloodthirster chomp on the Lord castallen Creed and his bodyguard. Buh bye!
Working on Battle Fleet Gothic stuff right now, and some Skaven.
189 | abbyadams Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:57:34pm |
And now I must kiss my own little girls good night, and tuck them in a little tighter. And hope for healing.
190 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:57:47pm |
re: #180 abbyadams
There are people on other boards absolutely apoplectic about the applause. It made me uncomfortable, but I'm reluctant to say that it's completely wrong.
APPLAUSEGATE!!!!11!1!!1!
...if this meme gets started for real, please don't tell me...
191 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:57:56pm |
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
194 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:58:41pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
No moola.
I here you, brother. It's tough for me too, though I'll likely be able to pay all my bills.
195 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:58:50pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
Did you at least have a quixotic adventure while you were gone? ;)
197 | Kefirah Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:04pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
glad to see you back. very glad. you missed some delightful words with an antisemitic gremlin.
198 | celticdragon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:06pm |
re: #183 BigPapa
Yes, true. He didn't do anything necessarily wrong by not being there, but it would have been the right thing to do.
Opportunity for the country lost.
Rachel Maddow pointed out that Boehnor turned down an offer to go with th POTUS on Air Force One and instead went to a GOP cocktail party.
No comment.
200 | Alexzander Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:10pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
No moola.
Feel you. Haven't had a job since September; existing off a near depleted line of credit (no welfare for me). But I might be starting temp work monday. In the meantime, still volunteering. All night shift tonight.
201 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:18pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
Did you at least have a quixotic adventure while you were gone? ;)
Multiple adventures!
202 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:18pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Missed you.
Glad to see you back.
*smooch*
203 | freetoken Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:43pm |
Color me skeptical when it comes to whether this speech by the President will make any difference in how his self-declared enemies act.
For example, the conversation going on between Dan Spencer and tcot:
[Link: twitter.com...]
Or that Farah has changed one bit - he's still pushing the birther meme for all it$ worth.
And so on.
204 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:52pm |
re: #194 Dark_Falcon
I here you, brother. It's tough for me too, though I'll likely be able to pay all my bills.
Wish I could say the same. I leave most of that to the answering machine. Sometimes I feel like throwing the phone against the wall but that would be a bad move.
206 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:00:31pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
He's ALIIIIIVE!!!
207 | calochortus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:00:32pm |
Good to see you back Ludwig.
Just a quick drive-by wave, though, I have a meeting to go to.
208 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:00:34pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
Welcome back LVQ, I'd like to appologize for some comments I made while you were away that while light hearted in nature could easily be seen in a less than kind/kick them while they are down manner...
Glad to have you back all the same... I think I need to make a LOL-Troll cat in your honor...
209 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:00:37pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
DAMN GLAD TO SEE YOU!
210 | CuriousLurker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:00:47pm |
*sheepish grin* Ahem. Okay, that was a little undignified.
211 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:01:16pm |
re: #198 celticdragon
Rachel Maddow pointed out that Boehnor turned down an offer to go with th POTUS on Air Force One and instead went to a GOP cocktail party.
No comment.
Yeah, well... his actions said it all.
Wifey demands attention. I'm going to try and find a video of the speech and not read it.
212 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:01:26pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Yea...Yea...What ever!
Did you bring back some good imported booze??
...What? I'm off for the next four days!
Welcome back...
213 | PhillyPretzel Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:01:41pm |
re: #210 CuriousLurker
It is okay. We missed someone whom we all liked.
214 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:02:23pm |
re: #181 jamesfirecat
LOL
Er no, I said good pizza :-) >
Hey does that look like a tongue or the goatee I have?
215 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:02:52pm |
Heh...facebook post from one of my friends who spends way too much time on twitter:
noticed that the word CU*T was trending on Twitter, my first thought was "What did Sarah Palin do now?".
217 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:02:57pm |
re: #188 celticdragon
Heh! I played my chaos army this last weekend and it was a masacre. The Imperial Guard went down hard...
I had a bloodthirster chomp on the Lord castallen Creed and his bodyguard. Buh bye!
Working on Battle Fleet Gothic stuff right now, and some Skaven.
Ah, I see you have embraced the power of Chaos! My desire to build a CSM army was reignited by reading The First Heretic, but alas, my funds ran so low I actually had to pawn my IG army. I'll get them back and get started on my Chaos soon enough. (What legion I am going to do is another matter....)
Oh! Have you seen the stuff from IA 9&10? Forgeworld outdid themselves.
218 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:03:24pm |
Sen. Gillibrand, Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Debbie Wasswerman-Shultz were in the room with her husband when Rep. Giffords opened her eyes.
219 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:03:25pm |
Wow thanks all.
OK a LOL troll cat? Let me guess... the stalkers are now weeping? Ohh darn...
Reality is either exciting or not depending on viewpoint...
I went to a conference and then got involved in a very serious project that ate up all of my time when I wasn't snatching little breaks to see family over the holidays.
220 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:03:28pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey! Good to see you. Missed you too.
221 | palomino Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:03:46pm |
re: #65 researchok
Krauthammer gives great props to Obama speech all around.
Nice.
Must be mellowing in his old age. But he's always been less of a partisan hack than his fellow "Fox All Stars(?)" panelists Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes.
222 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:03:46pm |
re: #200 Alexzander
Feel you. Haven't had a job since September; existing off a near depleted line of credit (no welfare for me). But I might be starting temp work monday. In the meantime, still volunteering. All night shift tonight.
I did that a couple of years ago. BOA is angry at me. They'll have to wait in line.
223 | sizzleRI Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:04pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
Yay! So glad you're back!
224 | Sionainn Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:06pm |
re: #137 Jadespring
Fox: President behaved with dignity and grace.
WTH did they expect him to do? Good grief.
225 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:15pm |
Can I just give a big "fuck you" to those on the far Right who have decided to make this all about them?
226 | Bubblehead II Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:27pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
Check for Borg Implants.
227 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:28pm |
re: #183 BigPapa
Yes, true. He didn't do anything necessarily wrong by not being there, but it would have been the right thing to do.
Opportunity for the country lost.
The cocktail party/fund raising aspect doesn't help. But no one will notice.
228 | darthstar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:50pm |
re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote
Welcome back...good to see you are well. Peace.
229 | celticdragon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:04:51pm |
re: #217 Dante41
Ah, I see you have embraced the power of Chaos! My desire to build a CSM army was reignited by reading The First Heretic, but alas, my funds ran so low I actually had to pawn my IG army. I'll get them back and get started on my Chaos soon enough. (What legion I am going to do is another matter...)
Oh! Have you seen the stuff from IA 9&10? Forgeworld outdid themselves.
I must have missed that. What was the stuff from FW?
Sorry to hear you had to pawn your IG Army :( I hope you don't owe too much on them!
230 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:10pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
I missed you...
231 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:23pm |
re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote
Wow thanks all.
OK a LOL troll cat? Let me guess... the stalkers are now weeping? Ohh darn...
Reality is either exciting or not depending on viewpoint...
I went to a conference and then got involved in a very serious project that ate up all of my time when I wasn't snatching little breaks to see family over the holidays.
Ludwig! OMG dude how the heck are you! You have truly been missed! I hope you're feeling better!
232 | palomino Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:27pm |
re: #79 Walter L. Newton
Now... waiting for the down dings...
Sorry, but I think you'll have to keep waiting.
233 | freetoken Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:30pm |
re: #224 Sionainn
WTH did they expect him to do? Good grief.
Well, they expect him to say "God Damn America!"
His is, after all, the Manchurian Muslim Marxist.
234 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:39pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
Yay! I am so relieved to hear this (I confess I was beginning to fear something really bad might have happened, and thought of emailing you, but then figured I'd wait until at least a month had passed since your last post...and here you are :) )
235 | McSpiff Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:44pm |
re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote
Wow thanks all.
OK a LOL troll cat? Let me guess... the stalkers are now weeping? Ohh darn...
Reality is either exciting or not depending on viewpoint...
I went to a conference and then got involved in a very serious project that ate up all of my time when I wasn't snatching little breaks to see family over the holidays.
Noticed you were on gmail this evening (me? a creeper? nooo). Emailed you a week or two ago.
236 | palomino Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:55pm |
237 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:05:57pm |
re: #190 publicityStunted
APPLAUSEGATE!!!11!1!!1!
...if this meme gets started for real, please don't tell me...
Applausegate. Track it.
238 | moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:06:16pm |
239 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:06:17pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
No moola.
If you're hard up enough for cash that you're having to bum food off neighbors, set up a pay pal account and I'm willing to bet more than a few people here would chip in a few bucks or so.
241 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07:04pm |
242 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07:46pm |
re: #241 LudwigVanQuixote
Great to see our sword master back LVQ.
243 | celticdragon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07:48pm |
BBL. I have to email an assignment for my history class.
244 | austin_blue Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07:50pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all! I am back after a bit.
Some questions answered if curious:
No, I am not dead.
Yes, I had a misunderstanding that escalated into some unfortunate posts with some folks here.
No, I am not angry about it.
No, I was not staying away because I was angry.
Unfortunately, all of that happened right before a Shabbos followed by an intense period of travel and work.
Anyway I am back. I missed a lot of you.
Welcome back.
2011 tied 2005 for hottest EVAH!
245 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07:55pm |
re: #226 Bubblehead II
Check for Borg Implants.
Is that why a radio dish comes out of my bottom and I sometimes poop fire?
246 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:07:55pm |
re: #239 Conservative Moonbat
If you're hard up enough for cash that you're having to bum food off neighbors, set up a pay pal account and I'm willing to bet more than a few people here would chip in a few bucks or so.
Thanks. I'm sure they would. Right now my Pay Pal account is dead since it's connected to my bank account.
248 | mr.fusion Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:08:27pm |
re: #151 Jadespring
I took a cue from Christina's parents. Her mother really clapped when he he first talked about her. I figure that if they seemed okay with it then it was okay.
For a city that's been grieving for the past 5 days, I can understand the need to applaud for the victims, first responders, and basically any other reason you could think of.
I won't lie.....originally it felt like a campaign event, and I'm sure this will be the focus of certain people tomorrow......but personally the more it happened the more emotional it got.
250 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:09:26pm |
re: #246 Gus 802
Thanks. I'm sure they would. Right now my Pay Pal account is dead since it's connected to my bank account.
Overdrawn?
251 | albusteve Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:09:34pm |
re: #194 Dark_Falcon
I here you, brother. It's tough for me too, though I'll likely be able to pay all my bills.
hope so because your taxes just went up 66% today...wow
[Link: chicago.cbslocal.com...]
252 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:09:50pm |
re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote
Wow thanks all.
OK a LOL troll cat? Let me guess... the stalkers are now weeping? Ohh darn...
Reality is either exciting or not depending on viewpoint...
I went to a conference and then got involved in a very serious project that ate up all of my time when I wasn't snatching little breaks to see family over the holidays.
Its something I started doing more or less right before you left, encapsulating responses to common trolls that show up here on LGF in Lol-cat macros.
re: #208 jamesfirecat
Welcome back LVQ, I'd like to appologize for some comments I made while you were away that while light hearted in nature could easily be seen in a less than kind/kick them while they are down manner...
Glad to have you back all the same... I think I need to make a LOL-Troll cat in your honor...
But this one I made Just for you...
254 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:10:12pm |
255 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:10:34pm |
re: #229 celticdragon
I must have missed that. What was the stuff from FW?
Sorry to hear you had to pawn your IG Army :( I hope you don't owe too much on them!
They did the Badab War. Fleshed it out nicely, I must say. Gave alot of the involved chapters fairly nice backstories. Mantis Warriors are guerrilla warfare specialists, for instance.
They also renamed the Space Sharks the Carcharodons Astra, and gave them a special character to match the new name: Tyberos the Red Wake. He has dual lightning claw chainfists, and can direct his attacks.
I owe $300 bucks on the IG. Fortunately, a friend decided to help me out and offered to pawn them from me. He is a 40K fan himself, so if I can't pay him off he still got a great deal.
256 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:10:37pm |
re: #245 LudwigVanQuixote
Glad you're back... I've been getting worn out trying to dominate these threads by myself :)
257 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:11:21pm |
258 | SpaceJesus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:11:38pm |
re: #165 celticdragon
He is also gay. Wait untill they start on that. A gay Latino hero. They will go fucking insane with that.
I swore off going to freep for a while the other day. I might have to break that promise now.
259 | Kruk Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:12:02pm |
re: #84 Locker
Yo.. wing nuts... THAT is how to be Presidential. Take notes.
A little off-topic, but if the wingnuts find taking notes from Obama too much, they could do a lot worse than emulate GWB during the hand-over and afterwards. He did an interview on Oprah a while back, and was aked why he hadn't criticised Obama. His response was along these lines:
"I'm treating him the way I would like to have been treated. It's a hard enough job being president without other people taking punches at at you".
GWB has his flaws, but personal nastiness or vindictiveness are not among them. I don't know how history will judge his presidency, but I think it'll judge him well as a person.
260 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:12:17pm |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
Ah well, you win a few, you lose a few ;)
261 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:13:26pm |
re: #242 Rightwingconspirator
re: #234 publicityStunted
re: #240 celticdragon
re: #234 publicityStunted
re: #228 darthstar
re: #223 sizzleRI
re: #231 Dragon_Lady
re: #216 makeitstop
re: #230 brookly red
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
re: #202 Floral Giraffe
re: #235 McSpiff
re: #244 austin_blue
re: #199 Decatur Deb
re: #222 Gus 802
re: #209 Dark_Falcon
Thank you all and anyone that I missed in going up the thread to find people to thank. I promise nothing dire happened. I really was dealing with a lot of travel and a lot of work.
262 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:14:12pm |
re: #251 albusteve
hope so because your taxes just went up 66% today...wow
[Link: chicago.cbslocal.com...]
It's not the end of the world, but it is the loss of some income. I don't know if witholding will be at a higher rate. For now, the payroll tax holiday will cover it. 2012 is when it will hurt. But this is why I voted against Quinn.
263 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:14:37pm |
re: #248 mr.fusion
For a city that's been grieving for the past 5 days, I can understand the need to applaud for the victims, first responders, and basically any other reason you could think of.
I won't lie...originally it felt like a campaign event, and I'm sure this will be the focus of certain people tomorrow...but personally the more it happened the more emotional it got.
well if your are a politician every thing is a campaign event, like it or not it comes with the job... but as I said he spoke well tonight.
264 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:14:58pm |
re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote
Yea.. you missed someone... don't get up.
265 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:15:29pm |
re: #151 Jadespring
I took a cue from Christina's parents. Her mother really clapped when he he first talked about her. I figure that if they seemed okay with it then it was okay.
I saw it as applause of agreement and embracing him. "Thank you for coming. It means so much to us." kinda thing.
266 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:16:10pm |
re: #256 Walter L. Newton
LOL...Ah...I'll be busy the next couple of days and wanted to tell you
We'll miss ya grumpy old bast....Have a great trip and be safe!!
A dog needs walked and I'm headin for bed!
267 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:16:21pm |
re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote
OK enough of the kissy kissy... what do you want to argue about?
268 | PhillyPretzel Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:16:24pm |
I got to go. Welcome back LVQ. Great news about Giffords. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.
269 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:16:47pm |
re: #265 marjoriemoon
I saw it as applause of agreement and embracing him. "Thank you for coming. It means so much to us." kinda thing.
Exactly, these people are hurting. Their Rep was shot, the constituents dead.
Whatever.
270 | BenghaziHoops Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:17:39pm |
re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote
Hi Ludwig!
I just want you to know some something..
There is nothing better than Kona Coffee!
Welcome home
271 | Jadespring Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:18:08pm |
re: #265 marjoriemoon
I saw it as applause of agreement and embracing him. "Thank you for coming. It means so much to us." kinda thing.
That's a good way of describing it.
272 | Bubblehead II Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:18:14pm |
re: #245 LudwigVanQuixote
Is that why a radio dish comes out of my bottom and I sometimes poop fire?
Could be. But you did miss a live one today. Watching you rip it a new one would have been fun.
273 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:19:27pm |
re: #266 reloadingisnotahobby
LOL...Ah...I'll be busy the next couple of days and wanted to tell you
We'll miss ya grumpy old bast...Have a great trip and be safe!!
A dog needs walked and I'm headin for bed!
Thanks... I be thinking of you while I'm in Paris... er.. well... I'll try to think of you while I'm in Paris... hmmm... oh fucking forget it... remind me who you are when I get back :)
274 | CuriousLurker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:19:41pm |
The President gave a great speech, Ludwig came back, and I have the rambling incoherencies of a real live moonbat to study. All in all a good day, so I'm going to quit while I'm ahead.
Have a great night, everyone. ;o)
275 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:19:42pm |
re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote
Thank you all and anyone that I missed in going up the thread to find people to thank. I promise nothing dire happened. I really was dealing with a lot of travel and a lot of work.
Welcome back!
I really missed you.
276 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:21:06pm |
re: #272 Bubblehead II
Could be. But you did miss a live one today. Watching you rip it a new one would have been fun.
Hey did you notice you never see Ludwig and KateinMaine in the same thread? I'm just askin...
277 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:22:08pm |
re: #273 Walter L. Newton
Thanks... I be thinking of you while I'm in Paris... er.. well... I'll try to think of you while I'm in Paris... hmmm... oh fucking forget it... remind me who you are when I get back :)
OK Walter we got the point... your going to Paris.
278 | BongCrodny Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:22:35pm |
re: #276 Decatur Deb
Hey did you notice you never see Ludwig and KateinMaine in the same thread? I'm just askin...
Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen Kay and mofo in the same thread, either. :-)
279 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:22:45pm |
re: #277 brookly red
OK Walter we got the point... your going to Paris.
Where... I didn't hear you :)
280 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:24:10pm |
re: #278 BongCrodny
Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen Kay and mofo in the same thread, either. :-)
There is no way that those two orientations could live in the same head.
281 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:24:22pm |
283 | BongCrodny Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:26:06pm |
re: #280 makeitstop
There is no way that those two orientations could live in the same head.
Maybe it could be like a matter/anti-matter kind of thing -- or in this case, maybe anti-matter/anti-anti-matter.
284 | What, me worry? Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:27:12pm |
re: #269 Stanley Sea
Exactly, these people are hurting. Their Rep was shot, the constituents dead.
Whatever.
I mentioned on the other thread, it's a release, which can be a bit manic. Tucson is a small town really. They get about 250,000 this time of year with the snowbirds, but yes, it's a huge shock. I think the applause is a natural response with the president there.
285 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:27:19pm |
286 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:28:11pm |
re: #285 BigPapa
Wow, that's a pretty powerful picture on a couple of different levels.
Here's another one:
287 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:28:25pm |
re: #285 BigPapa
Wow, that's a pretty powerful picture on a couple of different levels.
Lotta earpieces.
288 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:28:48pm |
re: #257 marjoriemoon
And there I was washing dishes.
{{{ludwig}}} good to see you friend!
Great to see you too...
And all of my other friends here.
It was probably very good for my blood pressure and general state of well being that I wasn't on any number of threads discussing recent events. Not that I would have lost it with anyone. Certainly not that such things aren't important to discuss. We all saw things like the shootings, were inevitable given the incitement of right wing whakos - or the inability of those scum to reflect on their role in inciting the whackjobs.
Then there are the dozen other ways that the nation is being left to a lowest common denominator fed by the basest instincts and ignorance. We all get that.
And yes, I do need to vent about this stuff like the rest of you. And I missed you guys and I will be back to my old irascible Republican abusing self. The difference is that I am interested in not just talking about everything that is messed up, but convincing people to act (in beneficial ways).
It falls on plain old average Americans, like us, to be the adults. It is awesome that we know about what is going on and talk about it, but we need some real action. I don't mean violence. I mean educated voices loudly and clearly saying enough.
I managed to have a while thinking of nothing but physics, work and family.
I published a rather important (in as much as people are reading it and liking it) paper.
I started plotting with some rabbinic friends to get the Jewish community involved in AGW action as well.
I am going to be getting married. I want children. I want to leave them a better world, not one that is declining.
289 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:29:00pm |
Very odd reaction from wingnuts. They seem to think Obama threw his liberal supporters under the bus by not blaming Palin and Fox News. They actually kinda liked the speech. Go figure.
291 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:29:47pm |
re: #270 HoosierHoops
Hi Ludwig!
I just want you to know some something..
There is nothing better than Kona Coffee!
Welcome home
Well Kona is my first love, but this Kuaii is just phenomenal as well. Hoops you are always the best.
293 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:30:37pm |
re: #288 LudwigVanQuixote
Great to see you too...
And all of my other friends here.
It was probably very good for my blood pressure and general state of well being that I wasn't on any number of threads discussing recent events. Not that I would have lost it with anyone. Certainly not that such things aren't important to discuss. We all saw things like the shootings, were inevitable given the incitement of right wing whakos - or the inability of those scum to reflect on their role in inciting the whackjobs.
Then there are the dozen other ways that the nation is being left to a lowest common denominator fed by the basest instincts and ignorance. We all get that.
And yes, I do need to vent about this stuff like the rest of you. And I missed you guys and I will be back to my old irascible Republican abusing self. The difference is that I am interested in not just talking about everything that is messed up, but convincing people to act (in beneficial ways).
It falls on plain old average Americans, like us, to be the adults. It is awesome that we know about what is going on and talk about it, but we need some real action. I don't mean violence. I mean educated voices loudly and clearly saying enough.
I managed to have a while thinking of nothing but physics, work and family.
I published a rather important (in as much as people are reading it and liking it) paper.
I started plotting with some rabbinic friends to get the Jewish community involved in AGW action as well.
I am going to be getting married. I want children. I want to leave them a better world, not one that is declining.
Due to some concerns about using someone elses artwork without their permission I had to take the old Quixote cat down... say hello to The new Quixote cat!
294 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:30:44pm |
WTF? My brother, my sister, and I were all in the same room with my father this morning at 10:00am talking to Hospice about our options. Apparently each one of us heard what that person wanted to hear, according to my wanna be psychoanalyst brother anyway...
I know exactly what what the two ladies from Hospice said verbatim, word for word, my memory works that way, beats me what the hell their names are, but I know what they said.
Both my brother and sister have widely divergent recollections of what they said, hence the disagreements...
So fine, we will be putting him into a nursing home for a bit, just for the physical therapy machinery and staff they have there. When they fail to show progress and fail at getting him back on his feet I will be bringing him home. Screw my brother and sister and their "he might live longer in a home" all Dad has ever said is that he wants to die at home, who cares about "longer" when you are only talking about weeks or perhaps a month or two at most?
With Hospice to help and the equipment they will provide I will take care of him here, I really don't care what my siblings think about it. As long as Dad is still conscious he will agree to let me bring him home, I don't need their agreement.
*And that's the way it was in the Garcia Household on 01/12/2011*
296 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:32:06pm |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
Very odd reaction from wingnuts. They seem to think Obama threw his liberal supporters under the bus by not blaming Palin and Fox News. They actually kinda liked the speech. Go figure.
///I can't hate this... that must mean its conservative!
297 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:32:14pm |
re: #294 ausador
{{{Ausador}}}
The hospice folks can be of a great help.
Continue your strength!
I commend you.
298 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:32:23pm |
re: #293 jamesfirecat
Due to some concerns about using someone elses artwork without their permission I had to take the old Quixote cat down... say hello to The new Quixote cat!
LOL Thank you.
300 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:32:46pm |
re: #293 jamesfirecat
Spear looks about right!
301 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:33:14pm |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
Very odd reaction from wingnuts. They seem to think Obama threw his liberal supporters under the bus by not blaming Palin and Fox News. They actually kinda liked the speech. Go figure.
Any reaction from the far left for him NOT "blaming" Palin, Fox et al?
302 | ryannon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:33:25pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
You know you are an asshole. I wish you would repeat some of the words of this speech to yourself as you go to sleep tonight. But no, you don't have a fucking unpartisian heart.
Fuck you for always being the downer.
It's un-American, you know.
303 | Bubblehead II Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:34:03pm |
Night Lizards . Time to spend some quality time with the wife.
*SLAP*
Get you're minds up to side walk level. We are going to watch Despicable Me.
Night.
304 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:34:23pm |
re: #294 ausador
WTF? My brother, my sister, and I were all in the same room with my father this morning at 10:00am talking to Hospice about our options. Apparently each one of us heard what that person wanted to hear, according to my wanna be psychoanalyst brother anyway...
I know exactly what what the two ladies from Hospice said verbatim, word for word, my memory works that way, beats me what the hell their names are, but I know what they said.
Both my brother and sister have widely divergent recollections of what they said, hence the disagreements...
So fine, we will be putting him into a nursing home for a bit, just for the physical therapy machinery and staff they have there. When they fail to show progress and fail at getting him back on his feet I will be bringing him home. Screw my brother and sister and their "he might live longer in a home" all Dad has ever said is that he wants to die at home, who cares about "longer" when you are only talking about weeks or perhaps a month or two at most?
With Hospice to help and the equipment they will provide I will take care of him here, I really don't care what my siblings think about it. As long as Dad is still conscious he will agree to let me bring him home, I don't need their agreement.
*And that's the way it was in the Garcia Household on 01/12/2011*
You are acting with love and honor. This sucks so much. I am so sorry, but you truly are acting with love and honor.
305 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:34:43pm |
re: #294 ausador
You're clear about who has the medical POA, I trust.
If/when your Dad isn't competent, there needs to be ONE decision maker, and if the rest support you that's great, otherwise you do what YOU think best.
Hang in there.
307 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:35:49pm |
re: #303 Bubblehead II
Neat little flick. The bald guy did it.
309 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:37:01pm |
re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote
Well Kona is my first love, but this Kuaii is just phenomenal as well. Hoops you are always the best.
Aloha Ludwig you firecracker. Place is less lively without you.
If you want the real stuff without getting ripped off and direct from the farms look here. I'm drinking a cup of Kona right now.
310 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:37:15pm |
re: #304 LudwigVanQuixote
Wait, what? Ludwig? Nice to see you back. I admit I wondered whether you whether you were pissed at the timeout.
311 | Peter Kaufman Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:37:32pm |
Hey, Frank, won't you pack your bags
And meet me tonight down at Liberty Hall
Just one kiss from you, my brother
And we'll ride until we fall
Well sleep in the fields
We'll sleep by the rivers
And in the morning we'll make a plan
Well if you can't make it stay hard, stay hungry, stay alive if you can
And meet me in a dream of this hard land
--Bruce Springsteen, "This Hard Land"
312 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:37:49pm |
re: #303 Bubblehead II
Night Lizards . Time to spend some quality time with the wife.
*SLAP*
Get you're minds up to side walk level. We are going to watch Despicable Me.
Night.
That's a very good movie.
My son is coming with the grandkids in two weeks. Even though I have "Despicable Me" on Blu Ray and a whole bunch of Disney cartoons, my son doesn't allow his kids to watch TV or movies unless it's "educational" so I downloaded some National Geographic episodes on HD. The kids can watch "Nature's Fury" (AGW) or "Great Migrations" (evolution).
313 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:38:18pm |
re: #303 Bubblehead II
We are going to watch Despicable Me.
I loved that movie. After I watched it, I wanted my own army of tiny Minions. They're awesome. :D
314 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:38:33pm |
re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote
Well Kona is my first love, but this Kuaii is just phenomenal as well. Hoops you are always the best.
You're in Kauai? Where are you staying? I spent quite a bit of time on Kauai playing various hotels in my bar band days.
315 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:39:00pm |
re: #313 Lidane
I loved that movie. After I watched it, I wanted my own army of tiny Minions. They're awesome. :D
Not when they get cranky, they're not!
316 | brookly red Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:39:46pm |
317 | Kruk Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:39:54pm |
re: #301 sattv4u2
Any reaction from the far left for him NOT "blaming" Palin, Fox et al?
I really, really, hope not. People forget that while an elected head of state has to be political, he or she also has to sometimes transcend politics and bring people together. I would be very disappointed in "my side" if anyone expected Obama to score political points at a memorial service.
318 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:41:04pm |
re: #294 ausador
I feel for you dude. In the future I'm looking at someting similar but it'll be both of my folks and there is no way I'm gonna let a bunch of strangers take care of my folks in some smelly hospice, or nursing home. I hate those places, the stench is unbelievable. I won't describe it, I'll just let you use you're imagination. My best friends dad died in one and I couldn't get out of there fast enough!
319 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:41:07pm |
re: #314 Charles
You're in Kauai? Where are you staying? I spent quite a bit of time on Kauai playing various hotels in my bar band days.
me thinks he's DRINKING Kauai (coffee), not STAYING there,, unless he has a Really BIG cup!
320 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:41:08pm |
re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote
Well Kona is my first love, but this Kuaii is just phenomenal as well. Hoops you are always the best.
cowabunga
JUST LIKE YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME GOOD HAWAIIAN TERIYAKI SOMETHING, half my favorite restaurants in Portland are all hawaiian
322 | bratwurst Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:41:37pm |
re: #317 Kruk
I really, really, hope not. People forget that while an elected head of state has to be political, he or she also has to sometimes transcend politics and bring people together. I would be very disappointed in "my side" if anyone expected Obama to score political points at a memorial service.
I have a hard time believing that there is anyone with any kind of measurable brainwave activity who expected Obama to namecheck Palin or Fox tonight.
323 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:42:19pm |
[Link: tammybruce.com...]
In an interview with GOP radio host Tammy Bruce Mansour (a Palin rep) defended the map. They weren't gun sights but "surveyor's symbols."
And that wretching sound is not the sound of a grown man dazed by chutzpah so intense it could cause a trans dimensional rift to open into a dimension of pure hypocrisy - no not at all - it was just a little gas...
324 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:42:27pm |
re: #315 sattv4u2
Pfft. You're talking about children. I'm talking about these little guys:
325 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:42:31pm |
re: #314 Charles
You're in Kauai? Where are you staying? I spent quite a bit of time on Kauai playing various hotels in my bar band days.
I saw Blue Oyster Cult when I was a teenager (1991ish) at a hotel in Bremerton, one of the best shows I have ever seen
326 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:43:03pm |
re: #324 Lidane
Pfft. You're talking about children. I'm talking about these little guys:
[Video]
I WAS talking about those "little guys!"!!
327 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:43:42pm |
328 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:43:59pm |
re: #325 WindUpBird
D_L & I saw them in Long Beach. Godzilla, Don't fear the reaper... Burning for you. Great stuff.
329 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:44:04pm |
re: #90 BryanS
People are sick of gutter politics, and he gave the speech that the country needed and wanted. Obama did what a president should do in this case--stayed above the fray and represented the country well. I'm reminded of the moment when I listened to Reagan explain the Challenger disaster to school children and adults alike. I think he just bought himself a whole lot of good will from the American people with this speech, and who knows, maybe from his political foes.
Whatever you think of President Reagan or his politics, he could turn it on in a time of crisis. I remember his address to the nation after Challenger...I was 11 then and whenever I hear the "slipped the surly bonds of Earth and touched the face of God" clip nowadays, I get misty.
330 | webevintage Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:44:53pm |
331 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:45:06pm |
They just cannot leave it alone, can they?
332 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:46:26pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
It's stunning.
It will be immediately attacked.
Watch the comparisons to the Wellstone memorial from the wingnuts...
333 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:46:38pm |
334 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:47:06pm |
re: #331 makeitstop
They just cannot leave it alone, can they?
Make it stop! ;)
[sigh] Can't they ever shut up?
335 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:47:26pm |
re: #308 Charles
David Frum on MSNBC, with David Corn.
I'll say this, Frum's a tolerant sort. He won't win any points from the wingnuts for going on MSNBC, but I do thank him for showing the flag of sane conservatism.
336 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:47:52pm |
re: #310 Charles
Wait, what? Ludwig? Nice to see you back. I admit I wondered whether you whether you were pissed at the timeout.
In truth, I was very briefly pissed, because I felt a bit misunderstood, but I also understand that you needed to do something to stop an argument which was clearly spiraling - and I frankly should have just let lie. There was no way my interlocutor (who I happen to like in real life as well as here) was going to see what I was trying to say, and frankly there was no way I was going to see her side at that point. The bickering aspect of it is a bit embarrassing for me.
Anyway, any negativity...I got over it pretty much the instant I stepped away.
Then it was Shabbos. The I went on a trip. The all sorts of things got hopping in my life.
Don't worry buddy, you are still my fav blogger.
337 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:47:52pm |
re: #333 JasonA
wtf?
That's what I said!
And apparently, Tammy Bruce felt the need to compare Obama's address to the Paul Wellstone service. Here we go.
338 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:48:08pm |
re: #331 makeitstop
They just cannot leave it alone, can they?
Free T-shirts?
SOCIALISMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
339 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:48:48pm |
re: #327 sattv4u2
HEY ,..where ya been ???
LTNS!
Oh, just hanging around. Doing housework for my folks, still looking for a job. My unemployment bennies have run out as of last week and I have approached my two well off siblings to help me out so that I can spend my time taking care of my parents instead of looking for a job that will only pay minimum wage. Got me a new iPad for Xmas, which I'm blogging from. RWC dominates the pc so it's real hard to join the blogging fray. Hows with you?
340 | BongCrodny Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:48:51pm |
re: #331 makeitstop
They just cannot leave it alone, can they?
They were waiting for the "It's all about ME" t-shirts.
341 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:48:56pm |
re: #332 talon_262
Watch the comparisons to the Wellstone memorial from the wingnuts...
You called it. Tammy Bruce tweeted the comparison.
They wouldn't be so shameless as to try that again, would they?
342 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:49:02pm |
re: #331 makeitstop
They just cannot leave it alone, can they?
Another nontroversy.
What CAN'T they get their knockers in a knot over?
343 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:49:35pm |
re: #314 Charles
You're in Kauai? Where are you staying? I spent quite a bit of time on Kauai playing various hotels in my bar band days.
I'm actually back home. But I recently got about six kilograms of fabulous Hawaiian coffees.
344 | Decider Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:49:37pm |
re: #335 Dark_Falcon
I'll say this, Frum's a tolerant sort. He won't win any points from the wingnuts for going on MSNBC, but I do thank him for showing the flag of sane conservatism.
"Sane Conservatism" is a oxymoron.
345 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:49:55pm |
re: #342 Floral Giraffe
Another nontroversy.
What CAN'T they get their knockers in a knot over?
This... this is like the grand notroversey to end all ontroversies... next to the Christmas ornament one at least...
346 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:50:17pm |
re: #328 Rightwingconspirator
D_L & I saw them in Long Beach. Godzilla, Don't fear the reaper... Burning for you. Great stuff.
I am a giant weepy dork for the following albums: Imaginos, Fire of Unknown origin, Secret Treaties, Club Ninja, Revolution By Night, Cultosaurus
347 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:50:27pm |
348 | Lidane Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:50:28pm |
re: #326 sattv4u2
Ok. Fair enough. :D
I don't remember them getting cranky, but I'd have to watch the movie again. Either way, I want my own army of those little guys. It would be fun. Hehe.
349 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:51:37pm |
re: #328 Rightwingconspirator
D_L & I saw them in Long Beach. Godzilla, Don't fear the reaper... Burning for you. Great stuff.
The problem is there is very little totally unabashed sci-fi hard rock, it basically is BOC, Hawkwind, the french-canadian psychedelic metal band Voivod, Alchemist from Australia, and uh not much else
350 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:51:50pm |
re: #342 Floral Giraffe
Another nontroversy.
What CAN'T they get their knockers in a knot over?
351 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:51:58pm |
re: #344 Decider
"Sane Conservatism" is a oxymoron.
Lets not be broad brush...
The Sane Conservative is in much the same position as the purebred wolf... it is at the moment being marched down the road to extinction as its environment changes in ways that are unfavorable to it and so it is rapidly being replaced with the hybrids known as Socialius Gosepellius, and Libertarnius Randnuttius....
353 | avanti Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:52:47pm |
re: #331 makeitstop
They just cannot leave it alone, can they?
Check on Hot Air, they think the T shirts say "Organizing for America", and the POTUS had them handed out to everyone there at a cost of 70K. A few problems with that.
1. The shirts say Tucson/America
2. The University gave them out.
3 Only a few rows up front got them, not 70K worth.
But don't let that stop it from going viral.
"I'm having a physical reaction to the T-shirts," Amanda Carpenter, a speech writer for Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) tweeted tonight. "I'm tearing up. This feels wrong."
354 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:52:55pm |
355 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:52:55pm |
my cat literally just closed the lgf window
356 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:53:08pm |
she's a bugeyed little fucker, she totally hates blogs
357 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:53:22pm |
re: #344 Decider
"Sane Conservatism" is a oxymoron.
So you would insult me? I ask because your words seem to call me insane.
358 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:53:26pm |
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Sarah Palin's handlers' war room tonight. Imagine the drama.
I say "Palin's handlers" because when she's finished giving a statement, they turn her off and store her in a closet until the next one.
359 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:54:10pm |
re: #347 makeitstop
Not an oxymoron. An endangered species.
Amen! I'm try to keep my sanity but the talking heads keep making my head spin and spitting green stuff!
360 | zora Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:54:36pm |
re: #344 Decider
"Sane Conservatism" is a oxymoron.
stay a while and meet a few. we have some that are sane but not tame. so watch your step.
362 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:55:12pm |
re: #344 Decider
"Sane Conservatism" is a oxymoron.
No no no. That's the kind of shit that turned me off from Limbaugh and Co long ago, the incessant 'liberals = bad' shit. You're saying the same thing.
It does not belong here.
363 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:55:25pm |
re: #350 Gus 802
Tammy Bruce: Yet another person who drank the Wingnut Kool Aide and went nuts.
Very sad.
364 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:55:34pm |
re: #357 Dark_Falcon
So you would insult me? I ask because your words seem to call me insane.
I've seen you say enough Liberalism to know that you don't have a leg to stand on, DF.
With that I'll say that the comment was out of line.
365 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:55:36pm |
re: #359 Dragon_Lady
Amen! I'm try to keep my sanity but the talking heads keep making my head spin and spitting green stuff!
That's gotta hurt. :-)
366 | engineer cat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:55:44pm |
foxnoose:
Palin Criticizes Manufacturers of 'Blood Libel' as Proponents of Speech Limits Cite Sharron Angle
fox lying with a heavy hand about purported censorship
beware
368 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:55:45pm |
Holy shit. Over at national Journal, there's still shit like this being posted:
As the scripture says "may his days be few, and may another take his office"
Right after a moving speech about political assassination-- a fervent desire for Obama's death.
I have used up all my tolerance. Anyone who can watch that speech from Obama and not realize we are in this together, I don't think there's much hope for.
Fuck it. I think I'm going to get into politics. It got weird enough for me.
369 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:56:00pm |
re: #349 WindUpBird
The problem is there is very little totally unabashed sci-fi hard rock, it basically is BOC, Hawkwind, the french-canadian psychedelic metal band Voivod, Alchemist from Australia, and uh not much else
I'd have to include early Pink Floyd, Amon Duul II, Can, and Guru Guru.
BOC and Hawkwnd for sure...... More Cowbell!
370 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:56:21pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Just don't let any get on you.
371 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:56:28pm |
re: #358 Charles
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Sarah Palin's handlers' war room tonight. Imagine the drama.
I say "Palin's handlers" because when she's finished giving a statement, they turn her off and store her in a closet until the next one.
It is possible that she will be the sacrificial lamb ultimately for this. A nice martyr for various GOP types to cry crocodile tears over, while there is a slight toning down in the rhetoric. She has sufficient enemies in the party that she would fill their long term strategies while shutting her down.
Overall though the GOP message of fear, hatred and lies with intense rhetoric reminiscent of the days of yellow journalism, is too much of a winning strategy and money maker to be toned down for long.
372 | jaunte Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:56:37pm |
re: #358 Charles
Frum's 'melting iceberg' metaphor was pretty good, too.
373 | austin_blue Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:56:40pm |
re: #294 ausador
WTF? My brother, my sister, and I were all in the same room with my father this morning at 10:00am talking to Hospice about our options. Apparently each one of us heard what that person wanted to hear, according to my wanna be psychoanalyst brother anyway...
I know exactly what what the two ladies from Hospice said verbatim, word for word, my memory works that way, beats me what the hell their names are, but I know what they said.
Both my brother and sister have widely divergent recollections of what they said, hence the disagreements...
So fine, we will be putting him into a nursing home for a bit, just for the physical therapy machinery and staff they have there. When they fail to show progress and fail at getting him back on his feet I will be bringing him home. Screw my brother and sister and their "he might live longer in a home" all Dad has ever said is that he wants to die at home, who cares about "longer" when you are only talking about weeks or perhaps a month or two at most?
With Hospice to help and the equipment they will provide I will take care of him here, I really don't care what my siblings think about it. As long as Dad is still conscious he will agree to let me bring him home, I don't need their agreement.
*And that's the way it was in the Garcia Household on 01/12/2011*
First, hang in there.
Second, my deepest sympathies.
374 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:56:50pm |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
Tammy Bruce: Yet another person who drank the Wingnut Kool Aide and went nuts.
Very sad.
Seriously. Talk about cynically deranged.
375 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:57:00pm |
re: #313 Lidane
I loved that movie. After I watched it, I wanted my own army of tiny Minions. They're awesome. :D
I want an army of "Brain bots" from the movie "Megamind." Much better than Minions, they can fly for starters...
376 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:57:09pm |
re: #358 Charles
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Sarah Palin's handlers' war room tonight. Imagine the drama.
I say "Palin's handlers" because when she's finished giving a statement, they turn her off and store her in a closet until the next one.
it's that scene in airplane 2, where they run out of coffee
377 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:57:16pm |
re: #362 BigPapa
No no no. That's the kind of shit that turned me off from Limbaugh and Co long ago, the incessant 'liberals = bad' shit. You're saying the same thing.
It does not belong here.
Excuse me? I beg your pardon? Did you say something?
378 | palomino Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:58:14pm |
re: #358 Charles
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Sarah Palin's handlers' war room tonight. Imagine the drama.
I say "Palin's handlers" because when she's finished giving a statement, they turn her off and store her in a closet until the next one.
Think maybe the black man with a brain had a better day than the whiny little diva from Wasilla?
The blowback on Palin today all over the internet was just awesome - makes me proud.
379 | engineer cat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:58:48pm |
the speech is already being spun in a way that makes it easy for the wingnuts to claim victory:
Rich Lowry
The pep-rally atmosphere was inappropriate and disconcerting, but President Obama turned in a magnificent performance. This was a non-accusatory, genuinely civil, case for civility, in stark contrast to what we’ve read and heard over the last few days. He subtly rebuked the Left’s finger-pointing, and rose above the rancor of both sides, exactly as a president should. Tonight, he re-captured some of the tone of his famous 2004 convention speech. Well done
380 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:59:04pm |
re: #358 Charles
And they bound and gag her.
381 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:59:10pm |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
Tammy Bruce: Yet another person who drank the Wingnut Kool Aide and went nuts.
Very sad.
she didn't drink the koolaid, she's self-aware!
she knows exactly what she's doing, who she's manipulating.
The thing is, a lot of these people who are pushing out all these creepy media noises on the far right are not true believers at all. They are 100% aware that they are manipulating people, the way advertising manipulates people.
382 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:59:21pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Holy shit. Over at national Journal, there's still shit like this being posted:
Right after a moving speech about political assassination-- a fervent desire for Obama's death.
I have used up all my tolerance. Anyone who can watch that speech from Obama and not realize we are in this together, I don't think there's much hope for.
Fuck it. I think I'm going to get into politics. It got weird enough for me.
We are thinking along similar lines.
383 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:59:37pm |
re: #379 engineer dog
the speech is already being spun in a way that makes it easy for the wingnuts to claim victory:
Rich Lowry
The pep-rally atmosphere was inappropriate and disconcerting, but President Obama turned in a magnificent performance. This was a non-accusatory, genuinely civil, case for civility, in stark contrast to what we’ve read and heard over the last few days. He subtly rebuked the Left’s finger-pointing, and rose above the rancor of both sides, exactly as a president should. Tonight, he re-captured some of the tone of his famous 2004 convention speech. Well done
That's Rich "Starbursts through the screen" Lowry.
384 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:00:07pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Fuck it. I think I'm going to get into politics. It got weird enough for me.
Better you than me, I'll just write you checks for your campaign
385 | reginald perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:00:25pm |
re: #371 LudwigVanQuixote
Welcome back, stranger.
I was sorry to see Space Jesus trounce you and C.J. in last week's election.
386 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:00:38pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Fuck it. I think I'm going to get into politics. It got weird enough for me.
Best line I've read tonight.
387 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:01:03pm |
re: #379 engineer dog
the speech is already being spun in a way that makes it easy for the wingnuts to claim victory:
Rich Lowry
The pep-rally atmosphere was inappropriate and disconcerting, but President Obama turned in a magnificent performance. This was a non-accusatory, genuinely civil, case for civility, in stark contrast to what we’ve read and heard over the last few days. He subtly rebuked the Left’s finger-pointing, and rose above the rancor of both sides, exactly as a president should. Tonight, he re-captured some of the tone of his famous 2004 convention speech. Well done
Partisan, but overall Lowery is sane and respectful. Hopefully those who are not so are shunned.
388 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:01:07pm |
re: #369 Mr Pancakes
I'd have to include early Pink Floyd, Amon Duul II, Can, and Guru Guru.
BOC and Hawkwnd for sure... More Cowbell!
Floyd I love to the depths of my being (saw them for Division bell) but they're bigger than sci-fi :D
Amon Dull, you have a point :D
390 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:01:32pm |
re: #339 Dragon_Lady
Oh, just hanging around. Doing housework for my folks, still looking for a job. My unemployment bennies have run out as of last week and I have approached my two well off siblings to help me out so that I can spend my time taking care of my parents instead of looking for a job that will only pay minimum wage. Got me a new iPad for Xmas, which I'm blogging from. RWC dominates the pc so it's real hard to join the blogging fray. Hows with you?
Same ole same ole
Work ,, home ,, sleep,,, house projects ,, work ,, home,, sleep ,, etc etc
As far as RWC dominating the PC ,, SMACK him!!
391 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:01:33pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
I can paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson
"when the going gets weird, the weird get going"
Politics doesn't pay well enough, for the personal exposure, in it today, IMO.
392 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:01:35pm |
393 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:02:05pm |
re: #386 JasonA
Best line I've read tonight.
Eventually you start to realize that it's not soylent green that's made of people, it's America
'Wait a minute. These are all just jackasses that ran for office!"
394 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:02:40pm |
re: #392 BigPapa
She stepped away for a moment, finishing up dinner. She misunderstood your post. It's all good.
395 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:02:53pm |
re: #391 Floral Giraffe
I can paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson
"when the going gets weird, the weird get going"
Politics doesn't pay well enough, for the personal exposure, in it today, IMO.
Isn't it 'When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro?'
396 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:02:54pm |
re: #391 Floral Giraffe
I can paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson
"when the going gets weird, the weird get going"
Politics doesn't pay well enough, for the personal exposure, in it today, IMO.
The weird turn pro :)
(I already turned pro, but I'm way too weird for politics, they'd dig up my sordid internet history before breakfast :D )
397 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:03:05pm |
re: #380 Floral Giraffe
And they bound and gag her.
Well, I did find the riding crop if Ludwig needs it. :D
398 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:03:10pm |
re: #391 Floral Giraffe
I can paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson
"when the going gets weird, the weird get going"
Politics doesn't pay well enough, for the personal exposure, in it today, IMO.
Normal is weird.
399 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:17pm |
re: #395 makeitstop
To me, that quote means: once you realize you have a very strong expressive personality that is very unusual, that there's a market for that
See, beat authors, see rock stars, see anyone with cool work who makes less sense
400 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:22pm |
re: #385 reginald perrin
Welcome back, stranger.
I was sorry to see Space Jesus trounce you and C.J. in last week's election.
What? What election? Stalkers? Ohhh... well if I was so busy, I couldn't post with my friends here - and I truly was unbelievably busy, then I certainly didn't have time to look at any stalkers.
Seriously, conference, holidays, papers, proposals and a patent process.
401 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:23pm |
re: #385 reginald perrin
Welcome back, stranger.
I was sorry to see Space Jesus trounce you and C.J. in last week's election.
It's going to be interesting watching the 'fan club' react to Ludwig's return.
402 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:35pm |
re: #391 Floral Giraffe
I can paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson
"when the going gets weird, the weird get going"
Politics doesn't pay well enough, for the personal exposure, in it today, IMO.
It doesn't pay well at all, the media hounds you, and people are shooting at you.
Seriously, I always said I'd never get into politics, but I really am going to. I went to a labor meeting tonight and saw just how goddamn scared so many people are-- but I also met a lot of smart, engaged, driven people who want to make things better.
Everything is fucking terrible and there's hope.
403 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:37pm |
404 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:40pm |
re: #390 sattv4u2
LOL. I offered but then I'd be on the Ipad.
405 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:04:56pm |
Oh here we go again. For some reason, Newsmax is targeting LGF with anti-Obama ads through Adsense. The question is always whether to block those kinds of ads (which I can do) or let them pay me for being one of their worst enemies. I usually decide the latter, but not always. I blocked the Church of Appliantology ads.
406 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:05:02pm |
re: #394 Rightwingconspirator
She stepped away for a moment, finishing up dinner. She misunderstood your post. It's all good.
Sweet. I'm not ready for a dustup right now, I'm halfway through Obama's memorial video. My wife is sniffling and it's getting me a little too.
407 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:05:18pm |
re: #388 WindUpBird
Floyd I love to the depths of my being (saw them for Division bell) but they're bigger than sci-fi :D
Amon Dull, you have a point :D
Division Bell isn't Sci Fi (saw that concert too) more like love songs.... that's why I said early Pink Floyd.
408 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:05:23pm |
re: #394 Rightwingconspirator
She stepped away for a moment, finishing up dinner. She misunderstood your post. It's all good.
Giver her the PC
She's WAY more interesting than you !!!
409 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:05:51pm |
re: #402 Obdicut
It doesn't pay well at all, the media hounds you, and people are shooting at you.
Seriously, I always said I'd never get into politics, but I really am going to. I went to a labor meeting tonight and saw just how goddamn scared so many people are-- but I also met a lot of smart, engaged, driven people who want to make things better.
Everything is fucking terrible and there's hope.
This really is quite a great turn of phrase.
410 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:06:05pm |
re: #406 BigPapa
Here too. Besides we keep our squabbling to the analog world. :-) >
411 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:06:22pm |
re: #407 Mr Pancakes
Division Bell isn't Sci Fi (saw that concert too) more like love songs... that's why I said early Pink Floyd.
I know, Divbell just happened to be the tour, my favorite records are A) the Wall and B) Animals.
412 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:06:26pm |
re: #405 Charles
Anyone visiting this site with serious intent is going to be immune to those ads. Those who aren't, are already going to agree with them. I'd say it's a wash.
413 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:06:32pm |
re: #405 Charles
Oh here we go again. For some reason, Newsmax is targeting LGF with anti-Obama ads through Adsense. The question is always whether to block those kinds of ads (which I can do) or let them pay me for being one of their worst enemies. I usually decide the latter, but not always. I blocked the Church of Appliantology ads.
Take their money, I always laugh when I see a Goldline ad on a Beck thread.
414 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:06:33pm |
re: #399 WindUpBird
To me, that quote means: once you realize you have a very strong expressive personality that is very unusual, that there's a market for that
See, beat authors, see rock stars, see anyone with cool work who makes less sense
Dead on.
As someone (or around here, another one) who made a living playing guitar for a long time, I can relate. :)
415 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:07:24pm |
re: #405 Charles
Oh here we go again. For some reason, Newsmax is targeting LGF with anti-Obama ads through Adsense. The question is always whether to block those kinds of ads (which I can do) or let them pay me for being one of their worst enemies. I usually decide the latter, but not always. I blocked the Church of Appliantology ads.
Let them pay you, it's sorta a disconnected mist of anti-obama dumbass sentiment versus people with a brain being empowered.
416 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:07:27pm |
re: #402 Obdicut
It doesn't pay well at all, the media hounds you, and people are shooting at you.
Seriously, I always said I'd never get into politics, but I really am going to. I went to a labor meeting tonight and saw just how goddamn scared so many people are-- but I also met a lot of smart, engaged, driven people who want to make things better.
Everything is fucking terrible and there's hope.
Let us know. I am ALWAYS up to support an upstanding politician.
(And you need to take paypal!)
It'd be really cool of you to get into the fray & try to make things better.
417 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:07:53pm |
re: #405 Charles
Oh here we go again. For some reason, Newsmax is targeting LGF with anti-Obama ads through Adsense. The question is always whether to block those kinds of ads (which I can do) or let them pay me for being one of their worst enemies. I usually decide the latter, but not always. I blocked the Church of Appliantology ads.
Why not create a simple space above where your ads are posted with a disclaimer?
418 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:08:27pm |
re: #353 avanti
Check on Hot Air, they think the T shirts say "Organizing for America", and the POTUS had them handed out to everyone there at a cost of 70K. A few problems with that.
1. The shirts say Tucson/America
2. The University gave them out.
3 Only a few rows up front got them, not 70K worth.But don't let that stop it from going viral.
"I'm having a physical reaction to the T-shirts," Amanda Carpenter, a speech writer for Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) tweeted tonight. "I'm tearing up. This feels wrong."
Great, DeMint. Would the crazy unemployed man with the action-figure plan have been such a bad idea after all?
419 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:08:30pm |
re: #408 sattv4u2
Sadly true. I used to joke the IDPA shooters we hang with put up with me to keep her hanging out. LOL.
420 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:08:42pm |
re: #417 LudwigVanQuixote
Why not create a simple space above where your ads are posted with a disclaimer?
like in Road and Track, where there's like THIS IS AN ADVERISIING SECTION and then it's just nothing but glowing prose about the latest BMW advancement
421 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:08:51pm |
re: #355 WindUpBird
my cat literally just closed the lgf window
Your cat is trying to tell you something.
422 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:09:09pm |
re: #405 Charles
I'd say take their money. Every dollar wasted here is a dollar they can't use someplace else.
Of course, this doesn't apply to the Church of you-know-who.
423 | jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:09:44pm |
re: #421 SanFranciscoZionist
Your cat is trying to tell you something.
In particular, that its time for you to feed him/her.
424 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:09:47pm |
re: #405 Charles
Take their money & mock them, however you choose to do so.
My advice, is worth what you paid for it!
425 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:09:48pm |
I have a tshirt that says "SPACE LORD MOTHER FUCKER" on it
this is the reason I can't run for office :D
426 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:01pm |
re: #405 Charles
How about:
LGF graciously thanks the hardworking astrotufers of the far right for supporting our attempts to shine a light on them with their advertisement dollars.
427 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:18pm |
re: #385 reginald perrin
Welcome back, stranger.
I was sorry to see Space Jesus trounce you and C.J. in last week's election.
The whackadoodles believe that SOMEONE meddled with the ballots.
428 | laZardo Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:20pm |
re: #425 WindUpBird
I can't run for office because people will think I'm a SECRET FILIPINO. O_O
429 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:20pm |
re: #421 SanFranciscoZionist
Your cat is trying to tell you something.
yeah, that she likes for my attention to be on her headbutting my face
430 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:27pm |
re: #416 Floral Giraffe
I'm going to get in on the city level first. And not just running for something without any clue of what I'm doing. Too many candidates doing that sort of crap these days.
There's probably some politicians worth working for here in NYC. Big place.
431 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:40pm |
re: #421 SanFranciscoZionist
Your cat is trying to tell you something.
She's saying "Pay attention to me." ;)
432 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:54pm |
re: #425 WindUpBird
I have a tshirt that says "SPACE LORD MOTHER FUCKER" on it
this is the reason I can't run for office :D
Monster Magnet!
433 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:10:58pm |
re: #428 laZardo
I can't run for office because people will think I'm a SECRET FILIPINO. O_O
They'll come out of the vents! Middle America won't stand for it!
434 | reginald perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:11:14pm |
re: #400 LudwigVanQuixote
Apparently they had a vote for biggest meanie and you and C. J. tied for second. S.J. won claiming something close to 90% of the vote. So it wasn't you who rigged the poll? Maybe it was our old friend, Larry Snork Reisinger, I've been told he flounced at about that time.
435 | laZardo Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:11:30pm |
re: #433 WindUpBird
They'll come out of the vents! Middle America won't stand for it!
Soon the country will be blanketed in the steamy haze of a million rice cookers!
436 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:11:35pm |
437 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:11:41pm |
re: #398 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Normal is weird.
Nuh uh. Weird is normal! Trust me, living in L.A. Is all about everything goes, and then some! ;)
438 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:11:49pm |
re: #401 Dark_Falcon
It's going to be interesting watching the 'fan club' react to Ludwig's return.
Yeah...I think they'd given up hope, too.
439 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:12:00pm |
re: #426 LudwigVanQuixote
How about:
LGF graciously thanks the hardworking astrotufers of the far right for supporting our attempts to shine a light on them with their advertisement dollars.
Loves it!
440 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:12:10pm |
re: #436 WindUpBird
Dude, my favorite band
okay, 4 way diablo was not great
But Mastermind was SO FANTASTIC I cried
441 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:12:11pm |
re: #411 WindUpBird
I know, Divbell just happened to be the tour, my favorite records are A) the Wall and B) Animals.
Mine are Obscured by Clouds, Meddle, and Ummagumma. Obscured by Clouds was the album just before DSOTM and is very good spacy stuff ....... not too many people know of it.
I forgot to mention Pink Fairies..... they were stablemates of Hawkwind and shared band members.
442 | Stanghazi Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:12:22pm |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
Tammy Bruce: Yet another person who drank the Wingnut Kool Aide and went nuts.
Very sad.
She is one of Sister Sarah's posse.
443 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:12:38pm |
re: #425 WindUpBird
I have a tshirt that says "SPACE LORD MOTHER FUCKER" on it
this is the reason I can't run for office :D
Ah, Monster Magnet. Great band
444 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:12:39pm |
re: #430 Obdicut
People who care CAN make a difference.
Rudy Guilliana, NYC. As an example.
You let us know, there's a good chunk of VOTING supporters, here.
445 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:13:00pm |
re: #401 Dark_Falcon
It's going to be interesting watching the 'fan club' react to Ludwig's return.
Notice has already been taken.
446 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:13:42pm |
re: #441 Mr Pancakes
No argument here, they're all genius :D
there's three bands that feed my entire music library, it's Floyd, Sabbath, and The Melvins
447 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:14:10pm |
re: #434 reginald perrin
Apparently they had a vote for biggest meanie and you and C. J. tied for second. S.J. won claiming something close to 90% of the vote. So it wasn't you who rigged the poll? Maybe it was our old friend, Larry Snork Reisinger, I've been told he flounced at about that time.
LOL!
448 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:14:19pm |
re: #429 WindUpBird
yeah, that she likes for my attention to be on her headbutting my face
I seem to recall that at some point in the past, a lizard, or someone on another blog, told us that his cat had just headbutted him and split his lip.
449 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:14:23pm |
450 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:15:24pm |
re: #443 makeitstop
Ah, Monster Magnet. Great band
It's as if you combined a brainiac comic book store owner and a rock star in one body, but you made the mistake of telling him
so then he just runs amok with his band, with full knowledge of his powers
451 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:15:35pm |
452 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:15:52pm |
453 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:16:08pm |
re: #405 Charles
Or even better:
LGF graciously thanks the hardworking astroturfers of the far right for supporting us with their advertisement dollars. We hope they continue to misconstrue what our site truly thinks of them with the same brilliant research skills they apply to the basic science of evolution or AGW.
454 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:17:05pm |
re: #449 Charles
yay *_*
saw MM three times, twice as a supporting act for Powertrip (Van Halen+Gary Cherone tour, Rob Zombie tour), once for Monolithic Baby where they HEADLINED and they played THIRD ALTERNATIVE at Dante's in Portland
And I was very very happy :D
455 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:17:46pm |
at the Dante's show they had the crowd vote on Space Lord versus Bummer for the encore, I was very conflicted. :D
456 | reginald perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:17:53pm |
re: #427 SanFranciscoZionist
The whackadoodles believe that SOMEONE meddled with the ballots.
I wonder if they have tried to blame Acorn for the inflated vote?
457 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:09pm |
re: #446 WindUpBird
No argument here, they're all genius :D
there's three bands that feed my entire music library, it's Floyd, Sabbath, and The Melvins
I bought Black Sabbath's first LP the day it came out for $3.00 ..... I drooled on the cellophane while I opened it. I was getting burned out on Led Zeppelin and Grand Funk Railroad.
458 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:12pm |
459 | Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:18pm |
re: #453 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, I'd love to, but I think a statement like that might violate the Adsense TOS.
460 | BongCrodny Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:22pm |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
Partisan, but overall Lowery is sane and respectful. Hopefully those who are not so are shunned.
Here are a few of the responding comments to Lowry's commentary. They're running a bit more to the negative than positive, maybe about 70-30, maybe 60-40 (if you want to be charitable) anti-Obama/anti-Lowry.
"Rich has a history of being suckered in by The One, so that's one reason why so many of us are disappointed in him."
"A community organizer extraordinaire such as our president did what most community organizers do in times of crisis - they hide in upstairs apartment while the volunteers do all the street work."
"I honestly can't understand why conservatives contribute money to this website or have subscriptions."
"This was a political spectacle; that's all it was. Conducted by a man who just kicked off his re-election campaign atop the bodies of the dead and wounded victims. And, quite frankly, you're just about as disgusting as he is for praising him for it."
"The guys is a wannabe professorial boor. But thanks for just spouting the conventional wisdom Rich, it's super helpful."
"I have to wonder if Rich saw the same speech I did. This was one of the smarmiest performances from a politician I have ever seen and the competition is fierce."
"Oh, spare me! He's not sincere. He's never been sincere. President "Bring A Gun To A Knife Fight, Whose Ass Do I Kick?, They're Being Hostage Takers" Obama had to go fulfill his Mourner-in-Chief duties and did the usual above-average job reading what the TelePrompTer told him to say. Yay for reading!"
"The whole scene was extremely distasteful and unpresidential."
"Mr. Lowry, never give Barack Obama anything. He's a radical adversary, and when he behaves as if he weren't, it's fraudulent and in the service of his radical ends. You've just helped his radical agenda, and served no other purpose in so doing."
"I believe your "take" on Obama's performance is less sophisticated than appropriate. Obama the "community organizer" (read "left-wing agitator": the only real job he ever had) is employing one of the oldest tricks of incremental incitement/agitation in the book (Alinsky?). It is to have others do the dirty work, while pretending to be above the fray."
Sane conservativism, indeed!
461 | austin_blue Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:30pm |
Night all.
Sweet dreams.
As the Texas Legislature is now in session, please understand that many small villages across This Great State have sent their idiots here to Austin for 140 days of mayhem, drunken debauchery, and a boost in income at "Gentlemen's Clubs" all across town. With a $27 B-b-b-billion hole in the budget over two years...
God Help Us, Every One.
462 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:50pm |
re: #434 reginald perrin
Apparently they had a vote for biggest meanie and you and C. J. tied for second. S.J. won claiming something close to 90% of the vote. So it wasn't you who rigged the poll? Maybe it was our old friend, Larry Snork Reisinger, I've been told he flounced at about that time.
Well, they gave me "The Irish Rose Award" for being the "Biggest LGF Sycophant". I'd just say I was polite to my host and tried to keep an open mind. But to the worst elements of the right, politeness to someone who is not a conservative and keeping an open mind are evidence of bad character. I actually feel sorry for people who think like that, since it robs them of so much happiness.
463 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:18:58pm |
re: #457 Mr Pancakes
I bought Black Sabbath's first LP the day it came out for $3.00 ... I drooled on the cellophane while I opened it. I was getting burned out on Led Zeppelin and Grand Funk Railroad.
I'm sorry I ever gave you a hard time *_*
(I was a little upset at the time re the nirvana thing)
465 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:19:16pm |
re: #434 reginald perrin
Apparently they had a vote for biggest meanie and you and C. J. tied for second. S.J. won claiming something close to 90% of the vote. So it wasn't you who rigged the poll? Maybe it was our old friend, Larry Snork Reisinger, I've been told he flounced at about that time.
Wait what? Larry flounced? Are you serious? I go away for just a little bit and then LARRY goes away? OMG, reading me truly was the only reason for his existence... WOW... Are you serious?
466 | SpaceJesus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:19:27pm |
re: #453 LudwigVanQuixote
welcome back to secret marxist progressive headquarters, sir
468 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:20:22pm |
re: #466 SpaceJesus
welcome back to secret marxist progressive headquarters, sir
Your chrome throne surrounded by LCD screens and the wafting of incense is waiting
469 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:20:25pm |
470 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:20:40pm |
re: #456 reginald perrin
I wonder if they have tried to blame Acorn for the inflated vote?
I think they suspect SpaceJesus, but it's really all the same, innit?
471 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:20:51pm |
re: #466 SpaceJesus
welcome back to secret marxist progressive headquarters, sir
Marxist? Heresy! We are orthodox Trotskyists! Missed you too buddy.
472 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:21:02pm |
re: #460 BongCrodny
*facepalm*
You know, I wish I was a necromancer. You know why? So I could make Teddy Roosevelt come back to life and smack the living daylights outta the people who took over his party.
473 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:21:22pm |
re: #457 Mr Pancakes
I bought Black Sabbath's first LP the day it came out for $3.00 ... I drooled on the cellophane while I opened it. I was getting burned out on Led Zeppelin and Grand Funk Railroad.
I will say you would like Monster Magnet
I defy you to dislike this song:
474 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:22:23pm |
re: #472 Dante41
*facepalm*
You know, I wish I was a necromancer. You know why? So I could make Teddy Roosevelt come back to life and smack the living daylights outta the people who took over his party.
necROMANCER
475 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:22:43pm |
And then, we have the faces that will be the future of Rock as we know it
476 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:22:59pm |
re: #459 Charles
Actually, I'd love to, but I think a statement like that might violate the Adsense TOS.
OK, so what if we had it in a more roundly phrased way still prominent, but not directly over the ads. Surely you can at the very least, even if that is not allowed, surely you can post something along the lines of:
These ads are randomly generated and may not reflect the views of LGF.
477 | Kruk Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:23:25pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Holy shit. Over at national Journal, there's still shit like this being posted:
Gee, who was it who said "The Devil may quote Scripture to his purpose"?
478 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:23:54pm |
re: #464 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
GODDAMNIT YOU BEAT ME
If I had a top ten MM, it'd involve Superjudge, Baby Gottendammerung, Big God, Melt, Bummer, Silver Future, Third Alt, King of Mars, and Mastermind *_*
479 | Kronocide Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:24:26pm |
I watched the whole Obama speech. Very good, very presidential. He slipped a little emotionally at the end speaking of the little girl but recovered for the final run.
He addressed, touched on the unresolved issues, but left it at that. Very well broached. Hard to find anything wrong with it at all, all kinds of good.
Upding Obama.
480 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:24:43pm |
re: #463 WindUpBird
I'm sorry I ever gave you a hard time *_*
(I was a little upset at the time re the nirvana thing)
I know..... I was being a dick that night and I mentioned the other day in some thread that I felt bad for acting that way.
Love ya WUB! In a bearded manly man way.
481 | SpaceJesus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:01pm |
as for stalker poll, i really had nothing to do with it.
482 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:19pm |
re: #475 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
And then, we have the faces that will be the future of Rock as we know it
[Video]
Dear HAshem - WHERE did that coe from.. Where? That is Subgenius level brilliant if a parody - and sub genius level insane if real.
483 | lostlakehiker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:35pm |
re: #14 darthstar
He writes most of his own speeches, and those that speechwriters prepare are revised, revised, revised, until he agrees with every word. It's part of what makes him such a great statesman. It would suck to be an Obama speechwriter, because he'd work your ass off.
This one is for the books, though. Heck, most of Lincoln's speeches were written in water, so to speak. Most occasions simply don't present the opportunity for excellence; all one can do is get it said straight, quick, clean, and with maybe a little grace.
The other thing about great speeches is, you have to have something to say that needs to be said. You have to issue a call to action which needs to be heeded, and which will be heeded because you put it right.
It would be exhilarating to be the speechwriter. Doing a job that matters, where getting it right matters? Where the president knows the difference between boilerplate and good work, and gives you a lot to work with? Gives you the speech, but as with any writing, another pass with another eye can improve it, and that other eye is yours?
Scary. Exhausting. But exhilarating. Life comes, life goes. The best you can do is get something done that matters, and get it done right.
484 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:42pm |
A bowl of Cling Peaches in heavy syrup with whipped creme on them
A big glass of ice cold milk
A 3 pack of Hostess Orange Zingers
LGF on the screen
Is my life GREAT, or what
((well,, all except the fact that I'vebbenatworkfor48straightFRAKKINhourswithatleast11moretogo!!!))
485 | RadicalModerate Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:43pm |
Switched on Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC to watch David Frum's comments post-speech, and caught afterward an interview with Congressman Bob Filner regarding the election-night antics of his opponent - Tea Party candidate Nick Popaditch and his supporters, which could best be described as a thuggish mob. During the interview, MSNBC segment also included a online statement from one of Popatitch's supporters - who just so happens to be a white nationalist member of Stormfront - regarding Jared Loughner:
I'm sure he was justified and I am enjoying this moment because this is how a revolution begins people, and it's funny I'm going to celebrate! - Aurick, "The Great White Elf"
There's video of the mob's antics- one to the supporters' accosting of Finer (including a Popditch supporter calling Filner a "dirty Jew" ~1:25 on the video), also, note that the guy in the eyepatch is Nick Popoditch, leading the mob.
486 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:43pm |
re: #478 WindUpBird
GODDAMNIT YOU BEAT ME
If I had a top ten MM, it'd involve Superjudge, Baby Gottendammerung, Big God, Melt, Bummer, Silver Future, Third Alt, King of Mars, and Mastermind *_*
Monster Magnet is pretty good, but I was always an Anthrax man at heart.
487 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:25:57pm |
re: #460 BongCrodny
Here are a few of the responding comments to Lowry's commentary. They're running a bit more to the negative than positive, maybe about 70-30, maybe 60-40 (if you want to be charitable) anti-Obama/anti-Lowry.
"Rich has a history of being suckered in by The One, so that's one reason why so many of us are disappointed in him."
"A community organizer extraordinaire such as our president did what most community organizers do in times of crisis - they hide in upstairs apartment while the volunteers do all the street work."
"I honestly can't understand why conservatives contribute money to this website or have subscriptions."
"This was a political spectacle; that's all it was. Conducted by a man who just kicked off his re-election campaign atop the bodies of the dead and wounded victims. And, quite frankly, you're just about as disgusting as he is for praising him for it."
"The guys is a wannabe professorial boor. But thanks for just spouting the conventional wisdom Rich, it's super helpful."
"I have to wonder if Rich saw the same speech I did. This was one of the smarmiest performances from a politician I have ever seen and the competition is fierce."
"Oh, spare me! He's not sincere. He's never been sincere. President "Bring A Gun To A Knife Fight, Whose Ass Do I Kick?, They're Being Hostage Takers" Obama had to go fulfill his Mourner-in-Chief duties and did the usual above-average job reading what the TelePrompTer told him to say. Yay for reading!"
"The whole scene was extremely distasteful and unpresidential."
"Mr. Lowry, never give Barack Obama anything. He's a radical adversary, and when he behaves as if he weren't, it's fraudulent and in the service of his radical ends. You've just helped his radical agenda, and served no other purpose in so doing."
"I believe your "take" on Obama's performance is less sophisticated than appropriate. Obama the "community organizer" (read "left-wing agitator": the only real job he ever had) is employing one of the oldest tricks of incremental incitement/agitation in the book (Alinsky?). It is to have others do the dirty work, while pretending to be above the fray."
Sane conservativism, indeed!
So now Rich Lowery and the magazine William F. Buckley founded are being called RINOs for being respectful. I have never been that kind of "conservative" nor is such a hater even conservative as I see the term. I prefer the term "reactionary hater" to describe their ilk.
488 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:26:33pm |
re: #486 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I love me some Anthrax! Both belladonna and John Bush era *_*
489 | Kruk Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:26:37pm |
490 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:27:13pm |
re: #480 Mr Pancakes
I know... I was being a dick that night and I mentioned the other day in some thread that I felt bad for acting that way.
Love ya WUB! In a bearded manly man way.
We are good!
491 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:27:42pm |
re: #475 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
And then, we have the faces that will be the future of Rock as we know it
[Video]
Also ironically, I have been thinking a lot about being a dad lately - no, Miss S is not pregnant (that I know of) yet.
It occurs to me that *this* is exactly the music that my kids could listen to to completely rebel against me...
Creepy really.
492 | BongCrodny Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:27:44pm |
re: #472 Dante41
*facepalm*
You know, I wish I was a necromancer. You know why? So I could make Teddy Roosevelt come back to life and smack the living daylights outta the people who took over his party.
Sad thing is, when I started reading there were 68 comments, and I only got about 1/3 of the way through before I thought "enough."
There are a lot more responses to the piece echoing the same or similar sentiments.
493 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:27:45pm |
re: #475 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
The kids really are all right, they are listening to Mastodon
494 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:27:51pm |
re: #482 LudwigVanQuixote
Dear HAshem - WHERE did that coe from.. Where? That is Subgenius level brilliant if a parody - and sub genius level insane if real.
It was a real band backed by a Church youth group. I recommend using it for further applications of Ludovico treatment.
495 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:28:11pm |
re: #484 sattv4u2
A bowl of Cling Peaches in heavy syrup with whipped creme on them
A big glass of ice cold milk
A 3 pack of Hostess Orange Zingers
LGF on the screen
Is my life GREAT, or what
((well,, all except the fact that I'vebbenatworkfor48straightFRAKKINhourswithatleast 11moretogo!!!))
Orange Zingers, are not food, they;re just sugar & preservatives.
496 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:28:12pm |
re: #473 WindUpBird
I will say you would like Monster Magnet
I defy you to dislike this song:
[Video]
Great song.... good to see someone carrying the torch! Thank god.... I'll check them out more.
497 | Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:28:15pm |
498 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:28:39pm |
re: #495 Floral Giraffe
Orange Zingers, are not food, they;re just sugar & preservatives.
and your point is ,,,???
499 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:28:58pm |
re: #484 sattv4u2
Looks like ya know how to make the best of it Sat.
500 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:28:59pm |
re: #493 WindUpBird
when a bunch of teenagers are enraptured by a band with a jazz-inflected drummer who worships Genesis and a hybrid picking banjo-turned-sludge-metal-warlock guitarist, the kids are FINE
501 | Kruk Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:10pm |
re: #495 Floral Giraffe
Orange Zingers, are not food, they;re just sugar & preservatives.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
502 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:10pm |
re: #484 sattv4u2
A bowl of Cling Peaches in heavy syrup with whipped creme on them
A big glass of ice cold milk
A 3 pack of Hostess Orange Zingers
LGF on the screen
Is my life GREAT, or what
((well,, all except the fact that I'vebbenatworkfor48straightFRAKKINhourswithatleast 11moretogo!!!))
Dude I just gained the last three lbs I lost last week just reading about your desert! Enjoy a bite for me, I have ten more lbs to loose before spring and don't get to indulge like that. :-(
503 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:14pm |
re: #494 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
It was a real band backed by a Church youth group. I recommend using it for further applications of Ludovico treatment.
Horrorshow!
504 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:20pm |
505 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:41pm |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
Also ironically, I have been thinking a lot about being a dad lately - no, Miss S is not pregnant (that I know of) yet.
It occurs to me that *this* is exactly the music that my kids could listen to to completely rebel against me...
Creepy really.
Om the bright side, my youngest's favorite bands are currently Elvis, Buddy Holly and Led Zeppelin.
506 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:43pm |
re: #496 Mr Pancakes
Great song... good to see someone carrying the torch! Thank god... I'll check them out more.
Clutch also carries the torch. o_o
507 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:29:59pm |
re: #505 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Om the bright side, my youngest's favorite bands are currently Elvis, Buddy Holly and Led Zeppelin.
GOOD
508 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:30:05pm |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
Meh, you will love them, and treat them as they deserve.
That is what is important, their music tastes will be started off of yours, but they will blossom.
509 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:30:09pm |
510 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:30:13pm |
re: #465 LudwigVanQuixote
Wait what? Larry flounced? Are you serious? I go away for just a little bit and then LARRY goes away? OMG, reading me truly was the only reason for his existence... WOW... Are you serious?
Yes, for real. The final straw was when he wanted to start up an anti-LGF hate-spew on Christmas Eve. But even on the "Blogmocracy" most of the posters wanted to talk about positive subjects due to the holiday. They ignored "snork" and he left in a huff. He has yet to return.
512 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:30:46pm |
re: #499 Rightwingconspirator
Looks like ya know how to make the best of it Sat.
Roads here (Atlanta) have been virtually impassable since Sunday night. Left the house with a bag packed late Monday afternoon for what is usually a one to one and a quarter hour drive in
took me over 3 hours to get here
513 | jaunte Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:31:01pm |
re: #468 WindUpBird
Your chrome throne surrounded by LCD screens and the wafting of incense is waiting
PZ Myers was just tweeting about this one: [Link: scienceblogs.com...]
514 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:31:29pm |
re: #502 Dragon_Lady
Dude I just gained the last three lbs I lost last week just reading about your desert! Enjoy a bite for me, I have ten more lbs to loose before spring and don't get to indulge like that. :-(
You can do it
Smacking RWC to get him off the PC is GREAT aerobics!!
515 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:31:46pm |
516 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:31:56pm |
re: #505 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Om the bright side, my youngest's favorite bands are currently Elvis, Buddy Holly and Led Zeppelin.
Well that's hopeful!
518 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:32:13pm |
re: #514 sattv4u2
You can do it
Smacking RWC to get him off the PC is GREAT aerobics!!
dammit, a laptop is like less than a car payment!
520 | jaunte Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:32:34pm |
re: #515 WindUpBird
Needs a massive pipe organ to go with it.
521 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:32:53pm |
And then we have my 40k battle theme from Anthrax. My buddies know when this song starts, a butt whipping is about to be unleashed.
522 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:32:56pm |
re: #510 Dark_Falcon
Yes, for real. The final straw was when he wanted to start up an anti-LGF hate-spew on Christmas Eve. But even on the "Blogmocracy" most of the posters wanted to talk about positive subjects due to the holiday. They ignored "snork" and he left in a huff. He has yet to return.
So what will Larry do? He has no purpose at all now does he?
523 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:33:08pm |
524 | reginald perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:33:15pm |
re: #470 SanFranciscoZionist
I think they suspect SpaceJesus, but it's really all the same, innit?
They are over it now that their mutual man crush has returned.
525 | lostlakehiker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:33:27pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Holy shit. Over at national Journal, there's still shit like this being posted:
Right after a moving speech about political assassination-- a fervent desire for Obama's death.
I have used up all my tolerance. Anyone who can watch that speech from Obama and not realize we are in this together, I don't think there's much hope for.
Fuck it. I think I'm going to get into politics. It got weird enough for me.
Pigs are flying---I'm gonna agree with you. That's way sick.
526 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:33:39pm |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
Also ironically, I have been thinking a lot about being a dad lately - no, Miss S is not pregnant (that I know of) yet.
It occurs to me that *this* is exactly the music that my kids could listen to to completely rebel against me...
Creepy really.
Just make sure your kids grow up around good music made by real people without a committee, and they'll know crap for what it is
527 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:33:44pm |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
Also ironically, I have been thinking a lot about being a dad lately - no, Miss S is not pregnant (that I know of) yet.
It occurs to me that *this* is exactly the music that my kids could listen to to completely rebel against me...
Creepy really.
You want creepy, Ludwig?
Check this out. In particular, the 'About' and 'Employment' pages.
529 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:34:27pm |
re: #514 sattv4u2
You can do it
Smacking RWC to get him off the PC is GREAT aerobics!!
Yeah but he's a black belt! Think I'll pass, at least until he crashes for the night. ;)
530 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:34:40pm |
re: #521 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
as an nathrax fan, how do you feel about Sound of White Noise
I am an classic Belladonna anthrax fan, but I also looove the John Bush stuff
531 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:34:54pm |
re: #493 WindUpBird
The kids really are all right, they are listening to Mastodon
[Video]
That band is just frighteningly good. I saw them on the Mayhem Festival tour a few years ago with Slipknot. Heroic.
532 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:35:02pm |
re: #508 Floral Giraffe
Meh, you will love them, and treat them as they deserve.
That is what is important, their music tastes will be started off of yours, but they will blossom.
Actually, given the context, I was going to joke about sending them to their rooms and not coming out until they could play the behind blue eyes or paint it black.
533 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:36:37pm |
re: #529 Dragon_Lady
Hey... I know when to keep my hands in my pockets.
534 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:36:41pm |
re: #530 WindUpBird
as an nathrax fan, how do you feel about Sound of White Noise
I am an classic Belladonna anthrax fan, but I also looove the John Bush stuff
I had heard Armored Saint a few times before he took over for Anthrax, so I thought he would be a good fit.
535 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:36:43pm |
re: #524 reginald perrin
They are over it now that their mutual man crush has returned.
I don't think so, but if you do, I will defer to you experience!
536 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:37:05pm |
re: #506 WindUpBird
Clutch also carries the torch. o_o
[Video]
I detect a bit of Alice in Chains in there........ good stuff. I got an album by a band called Wolfmother that seemed to mimic some of the music I liked back in the 70's...... don't know much about them but I like them.
537 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:37:18pm |
re: #531 makeitstop
That band is just frighteningly good. I saw them on the Mayhem Festival tour a few years ago with Slipknot. Heroic.
I have seem them three times, every time I get the feeling I'm witnessing something that will be talked about when i'm a grumpy 55 year old
The first time I have ever just hurled myself into a mosh pit since I became a Responsible Adult, was for The Last Baron, during the first Mastodon tour where they played all of Crack The Skye
Sorta one of those moments, where you just suddenly realize that a thing is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU
539 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:37:25pm |
re: #533 Rightwingconspirator
Hey... I know when to keep my hands in my pockets.
as long as they're YOUR pockets
(and your hands, for that matter)
540 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:37:47pm |
re: #536 Mr Pancakes
I detect a bit of Alice in Chains in there... good stuff. I got an album by a band called Wolfmother that seemed to mimic some of the music I liked back in the 70's... don't know much about them but I like them.
well, Clutch and AIC are basically contemporaries, they came about in the 90;s
541 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:38:11pm |
re: #527 makeitstop
You want creepy, Ludwig?
Check this out. In particular, the 'About' and 'Employment' pages.
Yeah I had to click on the 3000 yrs link...
The Feynman diagram snookered me into looking more....
Product Description
Professor John Bennett has just done the impossible-by altering the electrical characteristics of space itself, he has actually managed to change the speed of light. Now, after so many years of trying, he's finally about to realize his dream of becoming the most famous physicist in the world. But that dream is abruptly shattered when John discovers that his girlfriend, Dawn Whitmore, a cultural anthropologist, suffers from an incurable disease and has less than three years to live. Her only chance for survival requires that John sacrifice his career and use his technology to travel into the future to find a solution. Together with their friend Sam Tobin, John and Dawn enter into a secretive fifty-year stasis and ultimately emerge into the year 2055. But the incredibly divisive world they discover is not what they had hoped for: California has splintered into five states, each with dramatically different laws; increasingly sophisticated nano-viruses-a malicious form of nanotechnology-are continually released by anarchists known as nano-hackers; people live in constant fear of being electronically branded with the Scarlet Letter of the 21st Century. Has John really helped Dawn, or has he inadvertently signed her death warrant?
Now my brain hurts! You bastard!
542 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:38:45pm |
re: #536 Mr Pancakes
I detect a bit of Alice in Chains in there... good stuff. I got an album by a band called Wolfmother that seemed to mimic some of the music I liked back in the 70's... don't know much about them but I like them.
Wolfmother is excellent, sorta neo-Zeppelin in their way. The Sword is sorta in the same ballpark but more with the doomy Sabbath stuff
543 | William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:39:17pm |
re: #79 Walter L. Newton
Now... waiting for the down dings...
Not this time Walter. You are at your finest when you talk about language and it's arts. Please remember that.
544 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:39:30pm |
re: #542 WindUpBird
Wolfmother is excellent, sorta neo-Zeppelin in their way. The Sword is sorta in the same ballpark but more with the doomy Sabbath stuff
I'm still a fan of the classics
545 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:40:18pm |
re: #534 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I had heard Armored Saint a few times before he took over for Anthrax, so I thought he would be a good fit.
yay :D
he was almost the singer for Metallica! I'd say my favorite Anthrax records are White Noise and Persistence of Time, but man State of Euphoria is genius :D
546 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:41:03pm |
re: #544 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I regret never seeing Exodus live *_*
are you a Voivod fan? They are at times, the Canadian Exodus mixed with the canadian BOC :D
547 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:41:29pm |
re: #545 WindUpBird
yay :D
he was almost the singer for Metallica! I'd say my favorite Anthrax records are White Noise and Persistence of Time, but man State of Euphoria is genius :D
I think Persistence of Time rates up there as one of the top Metal Albums ever.
548 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:41:38pm |
re: #532 LudwigVanQuixote
LOL!
I am so glad you are back!
I am more glad that you are doing well.
549 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:41:39pm |
re: #547 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I think Persistence of Time rates up there as one of the top Metal Albums ever.
agreed
550 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:42:33pm |
re: #537 WindUpBird
I have seem them three times, every time I get the feeling I'm witnessing something that will be talked about when i'm a grumpy 55 year old
The first time I have ever just hurled myself into a mosh pit since I became a Responsible Adult, was for The Last Baron, during the first Mastodon tour where they played all of Crack The Skye
Sorta one of those moments, where you just suddenly realize that a thing is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU
At Mayhem, they played most of Crack The Skye before it was out. I didn't know anything they played except 'Colony Of Birchmen,' which was what won me over in the first place.
Disturbed was on the bill as well and came on after Mastodon. I could not have been less interested at that point.
551 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:42:43pm |
re: #546 WindUpBird
I regret never seeing Exodus live *_*
are you a Voivod fan? They are at times, the Canadian Exodus mixed with the canadian BOC :D
Heard them a couple times I think.
Remember Corrosion of Conformity?
552 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:43:55pm |
553 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:44:09pm |
re: #547 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Oh 1990 for metal was really great
Seasons in the Abyss, Persistence of Time, Act 3, Empire, Beg To Differ
554 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:44:50pm |
re: #548 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
I am so glad you are back!
I am more glad that you are doing well.[Video]
BIG HUGS
((LVQ)))
Great song, and a great choice. (((Floral)))
555 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:44:59pm |
re: #551 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Are you kidding? :D I am a FUCKING NERD for COC
this is their latest:
556 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:45:16pm |
re: #537 WindUpBird
I have seem them three times, every time I get the feeling I'm witnessing something that will be talked about when i'm a grumpy 55 year old
The first time I have ever just hurled myself into a mosh pit since I became a Responsible Adult, was for The Last Baron, during the first Mastodon tour where they played all of Crack The Skye
Sorta one of those moments, where you just suddenly realize that a thing is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU
The last time I was in a mosh pit, I think I was nineteen, and Cordelia's Dad was playing.
557 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:45:42pm |
re: #541 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah I had to click on the 3000 yrs link...
The Feynman diagram snookered me into looking more...
Now my brain hurts! You bastard!
A friend's son went to audition for the band project they're apparently putting together. Before he played a note they made him fill out a questionnaire asking his opinions on Obama, Hilary, Norman Schwatzkopf (!) and Fox News. Her thought it was kinda weird.
Since the kid is a very good player, eh got an email asking fo a second meeting - with a confidentiality agreement attached that he had to sign before the meeting. He turned them down, but he said there were some real good players there.
A right-wing Monkees, just what we need.
558 | Reginald Perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:45:45pm |
re: #535 Floral Giraffe
I don't think so, but if you do, I will defer to you experience!
They have ADD, they probably have been through 100 new outrageous outrages since the vote last week.
559 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:46:06pm |
re: #553 WindUpBird
Oh 1990 for metal was really great
Seasons in the Abyss, Persistence of Time, Act 3, Empire, Beg To Differ
Saw Pro-Pain, Green Jello and Testament live in a club venue back in early 90s. I almost got run over by Weird Al in the parking lot and Gene Simmons showed up to announce the bands.
560 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:46:21pm |
re: #556 SanFranciscoZionist
The last time I was in a mosh pit, I think I was nineteen, and Cordelia's Dad was playing.
So I was like 33 and dodging elbows from guys twice my weight class and trembling from the majesty of it. Metal is really something when it's this good and this amazing :-)
561 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:46:49pm |
re: #559 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Saw Pro-Pain, Green Jello and Testament live in a club venue back in early 90s. I almost got run over by Weird Al in the parking lot and Gene Simmons showed up to announce the bands.
We really could have crossed paths. I saw Testament for the Ritual tour *_*
562 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:47:12pm |
re: #557 makeitstop
A friend's son went to audition for the band project they're apparently putting together. Before he played a note they made him fill out a questionnaire asking his opinions on Obama, Hilary, Norman Schwatzkopf (!) and Fox News. Her thought it was kinda weird.
Since the kid is a very good player, eh got an email asking fo a second meeting - with a confidentiality agreement attached that he had to sign before the meeting. He turned them down, but he said there were some real good players there.
A right-wing Monkees, just what we need.
Norman Schwartzkopf?
I haven't heard a word about him in YEARS.
563 | Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:47:14pm |
re: #552 SanFranciscoZionist
You're under stress, dude.
Yeah. Especially when I don't eat enough or go cold turkey against my will.
564 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:47:22pm |
re: #553 WindUpBird
Oh 1990 for metal was really great
Seasons in the Abyss, Persistence of Time, Act 3, Empire, Beg To Differ
Prong! I knew Tommy Victor when he did sound at CBGB. They were pretty scary live, too.
565 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:49:02pm |
re: #550 makeitstop
At Mayhem, they played most of Crack The Skye before it was out. I didn't know anything they played except 'Colony Of Birchmen,' which was what won me over in the first place.
Disturbed was on the bill as well and came on after Mastodon. I could not have been less interested at that point.
The song that made me realize they were genius was Seabeast, but the album that really made me a devoted maniac for them was Blood Mountain, the record Birchmen is on
You just listen to it and you realize "these guys are the Van Halen of my time. How the fuck do people come up with hard rock this bizzare?"
566 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:49:22pm |
re: #562 SanFranciscoZionist
Norman Schwartzkopf?
I haven't heard a word about him in YEARS.
Yeah, how weird is that?
567 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:49:56pm |
re: #561 WindUpBird
We really could have crossed paths. I saw Testament for the Ritual tour *_*
Grew up in LA County, so a bunch of the local bands got a ton of airplay back on KNAC at the time. Big Suicidal Tendencies fan as well.
568 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:50:23pm |
re: #558 Reginald Perrin
They have ADD, they probably have been through 100 new outrageous outrages since the vote last week.
ADD does not cause a need for Outrageous Outrages!!1. I have ADD and get along fine with out them.
569 | Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:50:43pm |
re: #485 RadicalModerate
Four top AZ GOP leaders resigned this week because they are afraid of the crazy TPers. One was the head of the AZ GOP, the first black chair in AZ history. They feared for their lives. They've had "crosshairs" type of shit against them and one of the TP leaders did the finger-gun thing (like bang bang you're dead) and it freaked the ex-GOP chair out. The one guy was a McCain guy (I don't remember if he was the head of McCain's campaign - something like that - and all had GOP cred. I'm on my iPhone or I'd post the link. Google it. Scary, scary shit.
570 | Donna Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:50:49pm |
Gonna log off now, my poor little iPad has decided it don't wanna load anymore posts tonight. RWC logged out to let me use the pc long enough to say night night to all you in Lizard Land.
Hugs to everyone. ;)
571 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:51:28pm |
re: #560 WindUpBird
So I was like 33 and dodging elbows from guys twice my weight class and trembling from the majesty of it. Metal is really something when it's this good and this amazing :-)
My first mosh pit craziness was at a Dead Kennedy show.... it was nuts.
I love people who are passionate about music........ we'll have to talk again on this subject. And what was up with the Amon "Dull" comment?
572 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:51:36pm |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, there will be some spankings, of a different kind!
LOL!
And you will mean them, in a different way!
573 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:51:49pm |
re: #564 makeitstop
Prong! I knew Tommy Victor when he did sound at CBGB. They were pretty scary live, too.
I have seen Prong live, they're SO GOOD, they are just right precisely in my sweet sport of smart alt-industrial-metal, Killing Joke, Course of Empire, Prong, Voivod, Samael, Athiest, Godflesh, Cynic, Alchemist, Front Line Assembly, Vast, Rorshach Test, Nine Inch Nails, Young Gods, Skinny Puppy
574 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:51:56pm |
OK, random rant: sometimes being a woman in public places is just a pain in the ass. I'm walking over the hill to talk to someone about a tutoring job, and a guy slows his car and makes eye contact. So I think he need fricking directions, and I stop.
"What's your name?" he asks.
"Why do you need to know?" I answer.
"Because," he says, "You're incredibly beautiful."
"Thank you," says I, and I start walking again.
Luckily he left it there and kept driving.
Note: I am not 'incredibly beautiful'. I am a rather average, zaftig lady in her late thirties. What distinguishes me physically is a rather large rack.
What do people expect to get out of these encounters? And what do they expect ME to get out of them?
575 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:52:26pm |
re: #567 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Grew up in LA County, so a bunch of the local bands got a ton of airplay back on KNAC at the time. Big Suicidal Tendencies fan as well.
I was in the outer subruban northwest, frustrated by the disconnect *_*
576 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:53:36pm |
re: #574 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, random rant: sometimes being a woman in public places is just a pain in the ass. I'm walking over the hill to talk to someone about a tutoring job, and a guy slows his car and makes eye contact. So I think he need fricking directions, and I stop.
"What's your name?" he asks.
"Why do you need to know?" I answer.
"Because," he says, "You're incredibly beautiful."
"Thank you," says I, and I start walking again.
Luckily he left it there and kept driving.
Note: I am not 'incredibly beautiful'. I am a rather average, zaftig lady in her late thirties. What distinguishes me physically is a rather large rack.
What do people expect to get out of these encounters? And what do they expect ME to get out of them?
so ,, whats your name !?!?!
//
577 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:53:36pm |
re: #567 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Grew up in LA County, so a bunch of the local bands got a ton of airplay back on KNAC at the time. Big Suicidal Tendencies fan as well.
would you believe I was in my own stupid Seattle town as a teenager, but knew KNAC? Word got up to the suburbs that this was The Station :D
578 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:54:18pm |
re: #574 SanFranciscoZionist
What do people expect to get out of these encounters? And what do they expect ME to get out of them?
579 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:54:22pm |
re: #571 Mr Pancakes
My first mosh pit craziness was at a Dead Kennedy show... it was nuts.
I love people who are passionate about music... we'll have to talk again on this subject. And what was up with the Amon "Dull" comment?
okay, now I hate you for sheer jealousy :D
580 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:54:38pm |
re: #574 SanFranciscoZionist
LOL!
You are beautiful, or he wouldn't have spoken to you.
People get human contact out of the encounter. He needed it, you didn't.
Be well.
581 | Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:54:59pm |
re: #577 WindUpBird
would you believe I was in my own stupid Seattle town as a teenager, but knew KNAC? Word got up to the suburbs that this was The Station :D
If you listened to metal, you heard of KNAC.
582 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:55:19pm |
re: #567 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Grew up in LA County, so a bunch of the local bands got a ton of airplay back on KNAC at the time. Big Suicidal Tendencies fan as well.
KNAC was a good station as well as KLOS at the time..... but my favs were KROQ on the 80's and KMET in the 70's.
583 | William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:55:39pm |
re: #369 Mr Pancakes
I'd have to include early Pink Floyd, Amon Duul II, Can, and Guru Guru.
BOC and Hawkwnd for sure... More Cowbell!
Rush as well. But for me it's BOC all the way.
584 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:56:01pm |
re: #571 Mr Pancakes
we're talking about the same band, right? [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I;m a fan, don't worry *_* I worship at the twin temples of krautrock and northwest stoner grunge
585 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:56:35pm |
re: #582 Mr Pancakes
Jim Ladd and his "harmonica" club. LOL.
586 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:57:16pm |
re: #581 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
If you listened to metal, you heard of KNAC.
Me and my idiot friends were trying to imitate Queensryche in my parents' garage in 1990, I know KNAC :D
587 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:57:45pm |
re: #584 WindUpBird
we're talking about the same band, right? [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I;m a fan, don't worry *_* I worship at the twin temples of krautrock and northwest stoner grunge
Yea same band...... I didn't consider that Dull (for Duul) might have been a typo!
588 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:58:03pm |
re: #574 SanFranciscoZionist
Hey, did you get my mail?
Just checking.
589 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:58:25pm |
re: #583 wlewisiii
Rush as well. But for me it's BOC all the way.
I'm a fan of both *_* Rush for the musicianship, BOC for the personality
and if you like both, I can recommend you a few bands :D
590 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:58:48pm |
re: #582 Mr Pancakes
KNAC was a good station as well as KLOS at the time... but my favs were KROQ on the 80's and KMET in the 70's.
KROQ in the 80s was an incredible station. That was the soundtrack to my short stay in LA. And when I got back to NY, I found WLIR on Long Island had flipped their format to KROQ East.
591 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:59:09pm |
re: #583 wlewisiii
Rush as well. But for me it's BOC all the way.
Rush to me is a bit more prog than Sci-Fi....... but I do love them.... many people can't get past Geddy's vocals.
592 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:59:11pm |
re: #587 Mr Pancakes
Yea same band... I didn't consider that Dull (for Duul) might have been a typo!
^_^;
593 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:01:18pm |
And as expected, the Stalkers put up a "Diary of Dorkus" thread to mark Ludwig's return. As with any such thread devoted to Ludwig, the hate flows like a river on that thread.
594 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:01:41pm |
re: #591 Mr Pancakes
Rush to me is a bit more prog than Sci-Fi... but I do love them... many people can't get past Geddy's vocals.
Vocals = frontman, and frontmen are the dealbreaker, but yeha. I love Geddy, and there's a band called Coheed and Cambria who are sort of the kid's band doing the same sort of work :D
and it really is a fucking amazing song, it's unassailabe, it's awesome, full of superior vocals and guitar
595 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:03:09pm |
re: #593 Dark_Falcon
those are children :)
596 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:04:26pm |
re: #585 Rightwingconspirator
Jim Ladd and his "harmonica" club. LOL.
Living in San Diego at the time you kinda had to hold your antenna while standing on your head and pointing your left leg to LA to get reception..... but it was worth it.
597 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:04:50pm |
re: #593 Dark_Falcon
Let them drown in that river. Hate is why we have this thread.
599 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:05:43pm |
re: #597 Rightwingconspirator
Hate is what President Obama set aside tonight.
600 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:06:56pm |
re: #593 Dark_Falcon
Too bad they only have lives stalking Charles.
It's quite pathetic, when you think about it.
Waves her boonie at the stalkerz.
601 | Reginald Perrin Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:08:05pm |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
Yea.. you missed someone... don't get up.
To save space he skipped the trolls.
602 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:08:42pm |
I've been listening to an internet station out of Dublin for the past couple of weeks, and a band I've been taken with is a Scottish trio called Biffy Clyro. They're pretty schizo musically, veering between very poppish material and some pretty cool hard proggish rock. And Simon Neil can write a song.
I recommend 'Boom Blast & Ruin' and 'That Golden Rule' to you rock guys.
604 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:10:44pm |
re: #594 WindUpBird
Vocals = frontman, and frontmen are the dealbreaker, but yeha. I love Geddy, and there's a band called Coheed and Cambria who are sort of the kid's band doing the same sort of work :D
[Video]and it really is a fucking amazing song, it's unassailabe, it's awesome, full of superior vocals and guitar
That was a great song.
There was a band in the 70's more Geddy than Geddy. Pavlov's Dog
605 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:12:09pm |
re: #599 Rightwingconspirator
Hate is what President Obama tried to set aside tonight.
FTFY.
I don't think the hard right will listen.
I do think President Obama has tried!
606 | prairiefire Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:14:41pm |
re: #402 Obdicut
It doesn't pay well at all, the media hounds you, and people are shooting at you.
Seriously, I always said I'd never get into politics, but I really am going to. I went to a labor meeting tonight and saw just how goddamn scared so many people are-- but I also met a lot of smart, engaged, driven people who want to make things better.
Everything is fucking terrible and there's hope.
Good for you, Obdi. There's always hope.
607 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:15:05pm |
re: #588 Floral Giraffe
Hey, did you get my mail?
Just checking.
Yes, sorry, day ran away with me. Will respond!!
608 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:15:22pm |
re: #597 Rightwingconspirator
Let them drown in that river. Hate is why we have this thread.
DID YOU HERE THAT?!!1 RWC IS SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS!!11 HE'S A TOTALITARIAN FASCIST WHO WANTS TO KILL ALL REAL CONSERVATIVES!!!111
/ Twadjie, AKA Dorkus
609 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:16:22pm |
re: #605 Floral Giraffe
No they won't. Not even with the lesson that the hate of one twisted young soul is why we have this awful event to get past.
Contempt becomes anger. Anger becomes violence. Violence reduces us all. May we rise to a better way.
Let the stalkers mock all they wish. Let them swim their river of hate. We know the better way.
611 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:33:01pm |
612 | Mr Pancakes Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:34:29pm |
re: #610 Rightwingconspirator
Did I kill the thread?
Since you killed the thread I'm going to go watch a movie.
613 | Daniel Ballard Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:36:19pm |
re: #611 Mr Pancakes
I'm done for the night. Be well all.
614 | Mark Winter Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:41:46pm |
re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote
Welcome back Ludwig. The windmills must have been restless all that time.
615 | Mark Winter Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:46:22pm |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
Very odd reaction from wingnuts. They seem to think Obama threw his liberal supporters under the bus by not blaming Palin and Fox News. They actually kinda liked the speech. Go figure.
Obama has class. He doesn't need to state the obvious
616 | dragonfire1981 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 11:26:18pm |
The response may have been tame tonight but I guarantee the right-wing will be dissecting and blasting the speech for all kinds of reasons. Should.make for some fun posts.
617 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 13, 2011 12:10:15am |
What a nasty, partisan hack bitch:
Once again Urkel has found his props--a bunch of murdered people.
Everyone involved in this obscene debacle should hang their heads in shame
This entire event was an abomination, a disgrace. The exploitation of *everyone* was obscene.
A reminder what this disgusting creature had to say about Sarah Palin's "blood libel" speech just hours earlier:
With courage & grace, @SarahPalinUSA provides the dignified leadership missing for far too long. Thank you Governor.
Unbelievable.
618 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Jan 13, 2011 8:35:55am |
re: #617 000G
Who the hell is she? Pamella Geller lite?
619 | Semper Fi Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:49:05am |
re: #294 ausador
WTF? My brother, my sister, and I were all in the same room with my father this morning at 10:00am talking to Hospice about our options. Apparently each one of us heard what that person wanted to hear, according to my wanna be psychoanalyst brother anyway...
I know exactly what what the two ladies from Hospice said verbatim, word for word, my memory works that way, beats me what the hell their names are, but I know what they said.
Both my brother and sister have widely divergent recollections of what they said, hence the disagreements...
So fine, we will be putting him into a nursing home for a bit, just for the physical therapy machinery and staff they have there. When they fail to show progress and fail at getting him back on his feet I will be bringing him home. Screw my brother and sister and their "he might live longer in a home" all Dad has ever said is that he wants to die at home, who cares about "longer" when you are only talking about weeks or perhaps a month or two at most?
With Hospice to help and the equipment they will provide I will take care of him here, I really don't care what my siblings think about it. As long as Dad is still conscious he will agree to let me bring him home, I don't need their agreement.
*And that's the way it was in the Garcia Household on 01/12/2011*
That's the way I see it too. You're the primary care provider and it's all your call. Also, I truly think the home environment gives greater chance for longer life. Good luck and G-d bless you and your efforts.