President Obama's Tucson Speech, Full Video

On my iphone apps the only news agency that hadn’t had some top story on the Arizona Memorial was Fox News. I even hit refresh, nothing. I checked several others, even BBC and Al Jazeera had it as a top story.

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:33:44pm

Evening all. Read the speech, did not see it or listen to it (was getting dinner with the GF at the time)

It was excellent. Probably better off reading it anyway, as I hear the reactions from the crowd didn’t match the somber nature of the speech.

Four More Tears Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:34:11pm

re: #2 Dante41

Next on Fox News: Is Obama secretly T-Pain? We present, you decide!

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Fox News reports that some people (on Fox News between 5-6 and 8-10) are asking questions…

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:35:31pm

re: #2 Dante41

Next on Fox News: Is Obama secretly T-Pain? We present, you decide!

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Everybody has probably seen this already, but posting anyway.

Mich-again Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:40:02pm

Great speech but I could have done without the peanut gallery trying to turn it into a rally.

Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:47:15pm

Scientists plan Uranus probe
Science!

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:48:21pm

I think he did a really good job of trying to bring the nation together, and supporting Congresswoman Giffords struggles. The partisanship fighting has to give, if the nation is going to solve OUR problems.

Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:48:25pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

“Really, Commander?”

jaunte Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:48:33pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Nasa has been working with aliens.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:48:37pm

re: #7 Mich-again

Great speech but I could have done without the peanut gallery trying to turn it into a rally.

Too many people can never give someone they oppose any credit. Thank attitude was not universal among conservatives (Charles Krauthammer and Rich Lowery were respectful and honest) but it is far too widespread and Lowry was called a RINO for being respectful.

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:48:54pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Scientists plan Uranus probe
Science!

You know, I thought that was your own smart-ass headline. Until I clicked the link.

But those professional headline writers never fail to deliver.

Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:50:38pm

re: #13 Soap_Man

You know, I thought that was your own smart-ass headline. Until I clicked the link.

But those professional headline writers never fail to deliver.

Searching for Klingons!

valuepack Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:50:49pm

Ever seen a nail hit directly on the head?

“Those who died here, those who saved lives here – they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.” - Barak Obama

excellent speech

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:53:32pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Too many people can never give someone they oppose any credit. Thank attitude was not universal among conservatives (Charles Krauthammer and Rich Lowery were respectful and honest) but it is far too widespread and Lowry was called a RINO for being respectful.

We have moved to a point in history where I am going to introduce my 30/30 theory.

At no point in the near future will a president achieve higher than 70 percent approval ratings because 30 percent (on the opposite side of that president) will automatically oppose. Likewise, a president will not have ratings less than 30 because 30 percent (on the same side as the prez) will support him/her no matter what.

We have moved past the days of wildly popular or wildly unpopular presidents, no matter how great or incompetent he or she may be.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:54:11pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Scientists plan Uranus probe
Science!

Now that’s science many people would get behind.

Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:54:53pm

An Islamic supremacist blizzard has forced courageous Pamela Geller to cancel her righteous crusade against stealth jihadist Mayor Doomberg and the NYC Council hearing of totalitarian assclowns.

Also, Walmart.

(All hate phrases taken directly from Geller’s site.)

Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:56:28pm

re: #18 Charles

Damn that nefarious Walmart! I knew they were behind this.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:56:32pm

re: #18 Charles

An Islamic supremacist blizzard has forced courageous Pamela Geller to cancel her righteous crusade against stealth jihadist Mayor Doomberg and the NYC Council hearing of totalitarian assclowns.

Also, Walmart.

(All hate phrases taken directly from Geller’s site.)

Even Harpies can’t fly in a blizzard.

Pam, that blizzard is God’s way of telling you your rallies suck!

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:58:19pm

re: #19 Dante41

Damn that nefarious Walmart! I knew they were behind this.

For the record, I was surprised to hear you can buy ammo at a Walmart. Never knew that.

However, I live in Chicago. You can’t even buy a toy gun here, let alone a real one.

abolitionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:58:32pm

Obama Calls for New Era of Civility in U.S. Politics

Aides said Mr. Obama wrote much of the speech himself late Tuesday night at the White House. Laden with religion overtones, Mr. Obama seemed as though he was striking a preacher’s tone with a politician’s reverb.

jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:58:47pm

Guys I have some bad news at the moment, I may soon be yanking my LOL-Troll cats off of Dev art…

Evidently the entire grabbing the first random picture I can find off of Google Image Search, slapping some text on it, and posting it on deviant art as some new piece of art work is sorta kinda leaving the door open to copy write violations.

I could fight this but it wouldn’t be worth my time.

Therefore say good by to Deviant Art LOL Troll cats, and before I go to bed we will be saying hello to Photobucket Lol-Troll cats!

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 8:59:36pm

re: #22 abolitionist

Obama Calls for New Era of Civility in U.S. Politics

A nice thought, and good on him for trying, but it will probably work as well as “post-racial” did.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:00:38pm

So am I supposed to be angry at Wal-Mart?

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:01:16pm

Repost from down thread:

Four top AZ GOP leaders resigned this week because they are afraid of the crazy TPers. One was the head of the AZ GOP, the first black chair in AZ history. They feared for their lives. They’ve had “crosshairs” type of shit against them and one of the TP leaders did the finger-gun thing (like bang bang you’re dead) and it freaked the ex-GOP chair out. The one guy was a McCain guy (I don’t remember if he was the head of McCain’s campaign - something like that - and all had GOP cred. I’m on my iPhone or I’d post the link. Google it. Scary, scary shit.

Also, I read somewhere (but couldn’t find any links) that the university invitations called it “a celebration of life and unity” which could explain some of the applause. I, personally, felt the applause when Obama talked about each person, telling their story of their life, death or heroism on Saturday was appropriate, because it did celebrate each of their lives (even in some of their deaths). It was uplifting to hear about each of those affected people, either how they lived or, sadly, how they died (protecting loved ones, etc.)

The applause that bothered me was when Obama went to the podium and during his first few words. I thought that was out of place.

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:01:28pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Scientists plan Uranus probe
Science!

re: #13 Soap_Man

You know, I thought that was your own smart-ass headline. Until I clicked the link.

But those professional headline writers never fail to deliver.

“…the mission would offer the first close-up view of Uranus in 25 years.”

Okay, now I’m starting to think the writer is doing it on purpose.

HC4BO Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:01:59pm

Well after the President’s speech, I thought NOTHING was going to match it for at least today …

BUT …

I have to say, Tonight’s Colbert Show is one for the History Books !

Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:02:27pm

re: #25 Gus 802

So am I supposed to be angry at Wal-Mart?

Yes. They did something worth raging about. What, we are not sure of yet.

re: #27 Soap_Man

Sometimes, a news writer gets handed a job that he can have a lot of fun on. The results are always amusing to behold.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:04:21pm

re: #29 Dante41

Yes. They did something worth raging about. What, we are not sure of yet.

re: #27 Soap_Man

Sometimes, a news writer gets handed a job that he can have a lot of fun on. The results are always amusing to behold.

City council is against the proposed Wal-Marts and Pam Geller is for the proposed Wal-Marts. Ergo, I must hate Wal-Mart!

Can you imagine a proposed Wal-Mart down the street from Geller’s house?

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:05:30pm

re: #21 Soap_Man

For the record, I was surprised to hear you can buy ammo at a Walmart. Never knew that.

However, I live in Chicago. You can’t even buy a toy gun here, let alone a real one.

The Wal-Marts in Cook County do not sell guns or ammo. However, the ones in Lake County do, at least for rifles.

Skandal Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:05:45pm

Perhaps the best response to Palin’s latest nonsense is satire: Top 10 Reasons to Stop the Blood Libel Schmear Campaign against Honorary Jew Sarah Palin
Apologies if this has already been posted.

Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:05:49pm

re: #18 Charles

An Islamic supremacist blizzard has forced courageous Pamela Geller to cancel her righteous crusade against stealth jihadist Mayor Doomberg and the NYC Council hearing of totalitarian assclowns.

Also, Walmart.

(All hate phrases taken directly from Geller’s site.)

I was wondering how big of a flop that was going to be. Nobody gives a shit anymore. Islamification has given way to Obamafication. A really against the New World Order and Jewish Bankers would get better attendance.

palomino Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:06:01pm

The far right (Limbaugh, Breitbart, Malkin, et al.) will hate this, since they hate everything he does and see him as an America hater.

But this is about as close to a truly uniting speech as is possible given how large, diverse and riven our country has become.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:07:09pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Or at least that’s what I’ve been told. The only Wal-Marts I’ve been in are in Cook County.

Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:07:19pm

re: #30 Gus 802

Oh, that’s what she was going on about? Some sort of petty vengeance? Damn, I thought it was something funny.

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:08:01pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

I think Morton Grove (Cook County) still has a gun ban. I believe other cities in CC might, too.

You can’t buy canned spray paint in Chicago. I had to go to the burbs when I needed some.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:08:12pm

re: #36 Dante41

Oh, that’s what she was going on about? Some sort of petty vengeance? Damn, I thought it was something funny.

Yep. She’s only “for Wal-Mart” because apparently city council is against it. Something like that.

Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:09:41pm

re: #38 Gus 802

Yep. She’s only “for Wal-Mart” because apparently city council is against it. Something like that.

Youtube Video

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:09:45pm

re: #30 Gus 802

City council is against the proposed Wal-Marts and Pam Geller is for the proposed Wal-Marts. Ergo, I must hate Wal-Mart!

Can you imagine a proposed Wal-Mart down the street from Geller’s house?

There is even a Wal-Mart in Chicago now or there soon will. The City Council finally worked out a compromise to allow one earlier this year.

reine.de.tout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:12:18pm

re: #30 Gus 802

City council is against the proposed Wal-Marts and Pam Geller is for the proposed Wal-Marts. Ergo, I must hate Wal-Mart!

Can you imagine a proposed Wal-Mart down the street from Geller’s house?

Somehow, I don’t think Wal-Mart will be building anything in Geller’s neighborhood. Wouldn’t be allowed, I suspect. My neighborhood, now …different story!

Hope you’re doing well, Gus (or at least better than a day or two ago).

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:12:20pm

re: #37 JustJay

I think Morton Grove (Cook County) still has a gun ban. I believe other cities in CC might, too.

You can’t buy canned spray paint in Chicago. I had to go to the burbs when I needed some.

Morton Grove no longer has a gun ban. When the Supreme Court issued the Heller decision, Morton Grove had its lawyers examine the law to see if it would survive a challenge based on Heller. The lawyers concluded that the ban would not have survived such a challenge and so Morton Grove repealed the ban.

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:12:51pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

Or at least that’s what I’ve been told. The only Wal-Marts I’ve been in are in Cook County.

re: #37 JustJay

I think Morton Grove (Cook County) still has a gun ban. I believe other cities in CC might, too.

You can’t buy canned spray paint in Chicago. I had to go to the burbs when I needed some.

So, a quick story. I needed a fake gun for a costume (supposed to be a detective). Went to a Toys R’ Us. All They had was nerf guns. I asked an employee and she said they had a “SWAT kit.”

It included (all plastic): a badge, handcuffs, a fake walkie-talkie, a billy club and a combat knife.

There were a fer things wrong here. First, according to Toys R Us, SWAT members do not carry guns. Also, the combat knife was about seven inches long. So a fake gun is no good, but a knife big enough to gut a rhino is kosher.

Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:13:07pm

Ancient winery found in Armenia

A UCLA-led team reported Monday that it had discovered a 6,000-year-old facility in an Armenian cave that contained everything necessary to produce wine from grapes, including a grape press, fermentation vats, storage jars, wine-soaked pottery shards and even a cup and drinking bowl.

The ancient winery is at least 1,000 years older than any similar installation previously known, and it was found in the same cave where researchers in June announced the discovery of the world’s oldest leather shoe.

William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:13:54pm

re: #21 Soap_Man

For the record, I was surprised to hear you can buy ammo at a Walmart. Never knew that.

However, I live in Chicago. You can’t even buy a toy gun here, let alone a real one.

They sell ammo at them all in WI afaik, and firearms in at least some. This has been controversial in the past. But in many places Walmart has replaced the hardware store & general store and needs to provide what the community needs as well.

Personally I like it - best prices on Winchester white box around… ;)

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:14:06pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

There is even a Wal-Mart in Chicago now or there soon will. The City Council finally worked out a compromise to allow one earlier this year.

Yep. Usually a compromise can be reached in larger cities. Just make the exterior fit in with the surrounding architecture, environs, etc. That’s if it’s a new building. Given that I remember a lot of 5 & 10s and Woolworths in NYC I don’t think it will be a problem in the long run. But, I see that they’re haggling over wages and such. Proposed location is in Brooklyn. I’ll let them figure it out.

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:14:11pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

There is even a Wal-Mart in Chicago now or there soon will. The City Council finally worked out a compromise to allow one earlier this year.

It’s already there. On North Ave. on the West Side. Another one coming to the South Side this year I think.

Charles Johnson Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:15:13pm

By the way, I never thought I’d say it, but Jan Brewer rose to the occasion today and gave a very nice speech herself.

Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:16:43pm

For those who doubted my diagnosis of Politico as a Wingnut site the other day….
Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge’s murder

prairiefire Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:17:07pm

re: #48 Charles

By the way, I never thought I’d say it, but Jan Brewer rose to the occasion today and gave a very nice speech herself.

I know! It was flawless.

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:17:12pm

re: #46 Gus 802

Not here. It’s a BIG traffic concern. Doesn’t look like Wallmart is going to get to use the empty mervyns store here.

chonguey Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:17:51pm

I have found myself almost coldly, clinically detached from the weekends tragedy up until the President’s speech tonight

I couldn’t make it past the first few minutes until I was all teary eyed like a little girl.

Imagine Sarah Palin rising to the occasion to capture the hearts and minds of those who both agree and disagree with her politics and to strike a tone that is both somber, yet hopeful and oddly calming.

Sarah Palin’s self-absorbed comments today stand in stark contrast to the President’s words. The gulf between them has never seemed so stark and so wide.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:17:55pm

re: #13 Soap_Man

You know, I thought that was your own smart-ass headline. Until I clicked the link.

But those professional headline writers never fail to deliver.

My favorite problem headline ever: “British Left Waffles On Falkland Islands”.

jamesfirecat Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:18:40pm

Well it’s official LGF LOL-Troll cats are dead.

On that note, long live Long Live LGF LOL-Troll cats!

I’m going to bed, see you guys!

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:19:53pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

For those who doubted my diagnosis of Politico as a Wingnut site the other day…
Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge’s murder

Ugh. How pathetic. Everyone that’s been reading the news knows that Roll was there on a “friendly visit.”

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:20:49pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Sweet Jeebus…read the comments there. Un-freaking-real.

Soap_Man Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:20:53pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

For those who doubted my diagnosis of Politico as a Wingnut site the other day…
Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge’s murder

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read all day. And I’ve read some pretty dumb things today.

Gotta head out. Stay safe everyone.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:20:57pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

For those who doubted my diagnosis of Politico as a Wingnut site the other day…
Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge’s murder

Good comment there:

The President’s statement is a speech, not testimony. It’s not evidence. And it’s not a statement of the official position of the investigation. This is just a dumb report. No court is going to dismiss, no jury is going to acquit, based on one sentence a President’s speech. What’s next? Theologians question Obama’s claim of puddles in heaven?
Posted By: Modern Esquire | January 12, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:21:08pm

re: #48 Charles

By the way, I never thought I’d say it, but Jan Brewer rose to the occasion today and gave a very nice speech herself.

re: #50 prairiefire

I know! It was flawless.

Thank you both for giving her credit too. You once again showed yourselves to be better people than the wingnuts. Not that I ever thought different of you, of course, you just confirmed what I already knew.

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:21:55pm

re: #38 Gus 802

Yep. She’s only “for Wal-Mart” because apparently city council is against it. Something like that.

Liberals hate Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is getting some pushback about their attempt to move into Manhattan. The mosque was given a permit in Manhattan. Therefore, Pam must ally with the Wal-Martians against Doomberg and the Jihadis.

I don’t quite know what the term is for the kind of logical error contained in this leap of logic, but Pam is very good at them.

Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:22:18pm

re: #58 Gus 802

…and I got that link from the legal luminary that is Glenn Reynolds. It’s complete wingnut garbage.

Dante41 Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:23:24pm

re: #56 JustJay

Sweet Jeebus…read the comments there. Un-freaking-real.

I love the one guy prattling about teleprompters. They can’t break form, even when Obama was very obviously reading from a printed speech in a binder.

prairiefire Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:24:54pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, D_F.
I wish they would call school off for tomorrow already. That would be the fourth day in row. Gah
Night, lizards.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:25:21pm

Obama used the word “I” 15 times!!11ty

Here’s me word count up to “I”

97 the
86 and
84 to
76 of
65 we
52 in
51 our
51 a
46 that
30 for
25 us
24 s
24 is
24 her
23 who
22 as
22 are
20 she
20 on
19 his
17 what
17 this
17 be
16 their
16 it
16 all
15 with
15 those
15 i

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:27:34pm

re: #62 Dante41

Printed speech = the original TelePrompTer. :-)

How come none of them bitched about Palin using a “TelePrompTer” (i.e., her ‘puter) when she read her little diatriibe?

But at least she didn’t talk to the hand…ER, read from the hand.

Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:27:50pm

re: #64 Gus 802

Obama used the word “I” 15 times!!11ty

Here’s me word count up to “I”

/

Do we have a break down of vowels to consonants yet?

Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:29:08pm

re: #65 JustJay

Printed speech = the original TelePrompTer. :-)

How come none of them bitched about Palin using a “TelePrompTer” (i.e., her ‘puter) when she read her little diatriibe?

But at least she didn’t talk to the hand…ER, read from the hand.

What do you call Sarah after she washes her hands?

Speachless.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:29:26pm

re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do we have a break down of vowels to consonants yet?

The only other option I have is word phrases. Here’s some of the top “2 word” phrases we can get outraged about:

12 in the
10 of our
9 we are
8 of us
7 those who
7 on the
7 for the
6 we have
6 to the
6 to be
6 that we
6 our hearts
5 up to
5 this tragedy

SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:29:46pm

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Liberals hate Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is getting some pushback about their attempt to move into Manhattan. The mosque was given a permit in Manhattan. Therefore, Pam must ally with the Wal-Martians against Doomberg and the Jihadis.

I don’t quite know what the term is for the kind of logical error contained in this leap of logic, but Pam is very good at them.

I’m also now considered starting a band called “Doomberg and the Jihadis”.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:30:57pm

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m also now considered starting a band called “Doomberg and the Jihadis”.

Doomageddon!!11ty

Kragar Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:31:48pm

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m also now considered starting a band called “Doomberg and the Jihadis”.

I can hook you up with a gig opening for Black Robed Shadow Cabal.

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:32:04pm

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

THAT was damn funny!

abolitionist Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:32:26pm

re: #62 Dante41

re: #65 JustJay

Re teleprompter comments, NYT wrote, Aides said Mr. Obama wrote much of the speech himself late Tuesday night at the White House. (Link in my #22, above)

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:33:55pm

Just can’t win. Obama plays it cool and strikes a decent centrist chord but the wingnuts still find the dumbest things to get outraged about.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:34:17pm

I just watched Obama’s speech. It was essentially perfect.

My only concern is that in the hopes of “more civil discourse” we do not allow a new spirit of political correctness cover up and smooth over actual evils which need to be called what they are and faced for what they are.

In contrast, I just discovered that Ms. Palin actually was self absorbed, narcissistic and tasteless enough to use the phrase “blood libel” in describing criticisms against her viscous style of rabble rousing and rebellion courting rhetoric.

Charles you wrote that up perfectly.

For me, it was really good that I was in the lab and have been happily productive when she made that asinine and depraved (even for her) comment. Really. There are probably adequate words to express my disgust, but most of the ones that spring to mind have four letters - save their more salty equivalents in other languages.

I suppose I will just say this. I have always refrained from the word shiksa. It is actually incredibly mean, and even most Jews don’t know that it actually means female abomination. Shagitz would be the masculine.

That shiksa Palin has no right to invoke blood libels if only because the Jews were innocent of hideous lie of the blood libel while she certainly has on some level contributed to the delusional fantasies of those paranoids already on the edge.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:34:41pm

re: #73 abolitionist

re: #65 JustJay

Re teleprompter comments, NYT wrote, Aides said Mr. Obama wrote much of the speech himself late Tuesday night at the White House. (Link in my #22, above)

The haters will never believe that. But if that’s true then the President should get an additional round of applause for a job well done.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:35:59pm

re: #75 LudwigVanQuixote

I just watched Obama’s speech. It was essentially perfect.

My only concern is that in the hopes of “more civil discourse” we do not allow a new spirit of political correctness cover up and smooth over actual evils which need to be called what they are and faced for what they are.

In contrast, I just discovered that Ms. Palin actually was self absorbed, narcissistic and tasteless enough to use the phrase “blood libel” in describing criticisms against her viscous style of rabble rousing and rebellion courting rhetoric.

Charles you wrote that up perfectly.

For me, it was really good that I was in the lab and have been happily productive when she made that asinine and depraved (even for her) comment. Really. There are probably adequate words to express my disgust, but most of the ones that spring to mind have four letters - save their more salty equivalents in other languages.

I suppose I will just say this. I have always refrained from the word shiksa. It is actually incredibly mean, and even most Jews don’t know that it actually means female abomination. Shagitz would be the masculine.

That shiksa Palin has no right to invoke blood libels if only because the Jews were innocent of hideous lie of the blood libel while she certainly has on some level contributed to the delusional fantasies of those paranoids already on the edge.

Quite Concur.

valuepack Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:36:04pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

For those who doubted my diagnosis of Politico as a Wingnut site the other day…
Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge’s murder

In real life one might just think to themselves “I’m face to face with with a dumb b*tch right now. Eff it, I’m cool.” and move on. But on the internet… their words sit there, in black and white, staring you in the face perpetually.
Frequently, its almost too much to take. The double edged nature of the internet i guess…

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:37:03pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur.

By the way, viscous was intentional. Listening to her is like moving through tar.

sagehen Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:39:47pm

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Liberals hate Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is getting some pushback about their attempt to move into Manhattan. The mosque was given a permit in Manhattan. Therefore, Pam must ally with the Wal-Martians against Doomberg and the Jihadis.

I don’t quite know what the term is for the kind of logical error contained in this leap of logic, but Pam is very good at them.

But liberals *love* Costco, which has pretty much the same product range at the same prices — but which also pays their employees a living wage, plus health care. They believe that lower turnover and lower theft it really works out the same over the long term, and they’re constantly fighting about it with Wall Street analysts.

TedStriker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:40:30pm

re: #2 Dante41

Next on Fox News: Is Obama secretly T-Pain? We present, you decide!

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Yeah, but has President Obama been on a boat?

Youtube Video

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Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:41:19pm

WTF? Looking at something on Twitter. Maybe I should link it I don’t know. But it’s some freak with the name of “JaredTheJEW” regarding Jared Loughner.

I tell ya’. The internet if full of psychos.

Talking Point Detective Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:41:26pm

Kind of surprised it took this long to uncover this kind of connection:

Arizona massacre gunman Jared Loughner’s downward spiral may have been touched off by a broken high school romance and fueled by drug use — but it was not politically motivated, according to his best friend in high school.

Zach Osler, in an interview Wednesday with ABC’s “Good Morning America,” said: “He did not watch TV.

[…]

Osler said he instead suspects that Loughner was motivated by a documentary called, “Zeitgeist: The Movie,” which slams currency-based economics.

“I really think that this ‘Zeitgeist’ documentary had a profound impact upon Jared Loughner’s mindset and how he viewed the world that he lives in,” he said.

Yeah - I’m sure that libertarian lunatic rightwing vitriol had nothing, whatosever, with driving this guy over the edge.

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:41:58pm

Someone may have written this earlier, but Palin is starting to remind me of bin Laden. Comes out with a video, stirs up some shit, and then am-scrays.

sagehen Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:42:01pm

re: #79 LudwigVanQuixote

By the way, viscous was intentional. Listening to her is like moving through tar.

good save.

Gus Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:44:20pm

re: #82 Gus 802

WTF? Looking at something on Twitter. Maybe I should link it I don’t know. But it’s some freak with the name of “JaredTheJEW” regarding Jared Loughner.

I tell ya’. The internet if full of psychos.

Alternate link.

If I get some money tomorrow I’m going to get myself a gallon of Jack Daniels.

TedStriker Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:44:39pm

re: #74 Gus 802

Just can’t win. Obama plays it cool and strikes a decent centrist chord but the wingnuts still find the dumbest things to get outraged about.

They wouldn’t be wingnuts if they didn’t get off on their perpetual outrageous outrage.

Seriously, wingnuts…life’s too fucking short to get wound up over every perceived slight.

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:45:49pm

re: #79 LudwigVanQuixote

{{{LVQ}}}

Sleepy time here.
So happy to see you back.
But, you know that.
Be well, and don’t be a stranger, OK?

Talking Point Detective Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:47:22pm

From Prison Planet:

ZEITGEIST, The Movie - All The World’s A Stage

Google Video
Tuesday June 12, 2007

Another excellent 9/11 documentary featuring chunks of Alex Jones’ latest feature film Terrorstorm as well as segments from Loose Change and much 9/11 news footage put together with a compelling soundtrack and visual presentation.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:49:18pm

re: #87 talon_262

They wouldn’t be wingnuts if they didn’t get off on their perpetual outrageous outrage.

Seriously, wingnuts…life’s too fucking short to get wound up over every perceived slight.

A hater will always reasons for his hate.

Joanne Wed, Jan 12, 2011 9:49:20pm

G’night all. Thanks for the interesting commentary!

ClaudeMonet Wed, Jan 12, 2011 11:29:03pm

re: #86 Gus 802

Alternate link.

If I get some money tomorrow I’m going to get myself a gallon of Jack Daniels.

How much do you need? I can give you an advance.

You can thank me after the hangover.

ClaudeMonet Wed, Jan 12, 2011 11:29:51pm

re: #79 LudwigVanQuixote

By the way, viscous was intentional. Listening to her is like moving through tar.

Good to see you posting again.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 13, 2011 12:02:25am

What a nasty, partisan hack bitch:

This whole thing is WRONG. I am sure at this point certain people can’t believe this is happening to them again. WELLSTONE.

He “kneels to pray with us today” And will “stand by you tomorrow” Because of course this is all about him

Once again Urkel has found his props—a bunch of murdered people.

Everyone involved in this obscene debacle should hang their heads in shame

The crowd reaction is making this more like grief porn instead of a memorial. Something is very wrong here

This entire event was an abomination, a disgrace. The exploitation of *everyone* was obscene.

Chris Wallace also thinks the speech was great. I guess the Dems were right, Obama did need mass murder to rally his base

A reminder what this disgusting creature had to say about Sarah Palin’s “blood libel” speech just hours earlier:

With courage & grace, @SarahPalinUSA provides the dignified leadership missing for far too long. Thank you Governor.

Unbelievable.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 13, 2011 12:06:38am

The Tea Party has spoken. Ugh.

Obdicut Thu, Jan 13, 2011 2:09:39am

re: #75 LudwigVanQuixote

This is what I said about blood libel.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

sagehen Thu, Jan 13, 2011 2:31:35am

re: #16 Soap_Man

We have moved to a point in history where I am going to introduce my 30/30 theory.

At no point in the near future will a president achieve higher than 70 percent approval ratings because 30 percent (on the opposite side of that president) will automatically oppose. Likewise, a president will not have ratings less than 30 because 30 percent (on the same side as the prez) will support him/her no matter what.

We have moved past the days of wildly popular or wildly unpopular presidents, no matter how great or incompetent he or she may be.

Do you really think things have changed that much in only one administration?

Bush had 90% approval during the rally-round-the-flag phase immediately after 9/11; and he’d fallen to 23% by the time he left (lower than Nixon ever went).

mdey Thu, Jan 13, 2011 3:00:27am

I just watched the speech again. It was beautiful. Bravo Mr President.

deranged cat Thu, Jan 13, 2011 4:21:04am

just starting to watch it now.
geez. why are there random people cheering in the beginning? like..just random hoops and hollers. gimme a break. (Charles, your tweets are right on)

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deranged cat Thu, Jan 13, 2011 4:25:15am

if I didn’t know any better, i’d have thought there were conservative plants trying to mess with the speech by applauding all the time.

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deranged cat Thu, Jan 13, 2011 5:00:32am

Simply amazing. That was an amazing speech. It’s difficult to find words to describe how i feel, except maybe that I feel inspired to be a better person.

I know it’s been quoted a lot, but I really feel the need to repost it. I, along with many other lizards from the look of it, teared up a bit during this part:

She saw public service as something exciting and hopeful.
She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model.
She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.
I want to live up to her expections.
I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it.
I want American to be as good as she imageined it.
All of us — we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations.

Thank you Mr. President.

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Jerk Thu, Jan 13, 2011 6:43:28am

I watched Palin’s video first to keep it fair, and I noticed that after the 2:00 mark, there’s five minutes devoted solely to defending herself. It isn’t about her, duh. Obama’s remarks, though in a different venue, called for unity, and respected the victims. I admit, I cried. He mentioned that she opened her eyes, and did so with great passion.

Palin is toast. She traded leadership for celebrity a long time ago and will never be on the same level as the man she says is hurting America.

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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 13, 2011 8:41:11am

re: #94 000G

She also called the Obama’s “trash living in the White House” so consider the source.

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jeff zazlow Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:15:26am

Everyone ‘raved’ about the president’s speech last night -
Scarborough and his gang all raved - even deuche bag Pat Buchanan had to give him props for taking the middle ground.
Fox and Friends did the same - except the dark haired guy on fox and friends added in it felt like the Wellstone funeral a bit and that they made ‘t-shirts’ for it…

My take is this -
These speeches always end out being shmaltzy and over the top. I personally think Obama doesn’t like these speeches, they’d make me uncomfortable as well, bcs it’s kind of phony rah rah sympathy but people eat the over the top shmaltziness up…. you have to be a bit of a snake oil guy, like Clinton, to master this, Clinton’s snake oil salesman charm is always FLIPPED ON….

I thought the speech was kind over the top and shmaltzy but that’s what people want politicians to do in situations like this I guess…. It kind of irks me… and furthermore, the nonstop over the top ENDLESS “”analysis”” of this…. by the nonstop 24 hour news networks is NAUSEATING….

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Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 13, 2011 1:48:18pm

Personally, my thought after watching the speech was, “That’s one for the history books.”

Well done, Mr. President.

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tomg51spence Thu, Jan 13, 2011 2:02:35pm

Well done.
His best speech that I have heard.
I hope it helps in every way.

Although I wasn’t sure about “expanding my morale compass” or something like that, but never mind - inconsequential in the bigger picture.
(I’m nearly a wingnut - had to point out something…)

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tomg51spence Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:16:01am

Reading Paul Krugman’s column today I see that the exact quote is “expand our moral imaginations”. Heh. Whatever feels good.

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