Video: Palin’s Statement, Minus the Statement
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Another egregious case of breath libel.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:36:18pm |
LOL!
As an aside, I just see nothing of any consequence behind those eyes of hers...
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:40:51pm |
re: #1 talon_262
LOL!
As an aside, I just see nothing of any consequence behind those eyes of hers...
THE ABYSS! IT GAZES BACK!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:42:40pm |
Still sounds better than me, with all the gasping I've been doing lately.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:47:31pm |
I'm watching Sunshine, the SciFi flic by Danny Boyle. It has all this breathing sounds, men in space suits, fighting, gasping. Kinda weird coincidence. Gonna get nightmares I think.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:51:46pm |
Evening all!
Are we having fun yet?
How is everyone tonite?
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:52:38pm |
I have just been made aware that a "Barret Brown" went down to the blog too lame to be mentioned and made a childish comment that mimicked the rantings of Charles stalkers. He even included a knock against Reine.
What the hell is going on?
What did this blog do to set him off that bad? I really didn't follow his meltdown after it left the blog.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:54:31pm |
That the most sense I have ever seen Mrs. Palin make in a video.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:55:37pm |
re: #10 Reginald Perrin
His meltdown merely coincides with his appearance here.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:58:09pm |
re: #10 Reginald Perrin
I have just been made aware that a "Barret Brown" went down to the blog too lame to be mentioned and made a childish comment that mimicked the rantings of Charles stalkers. He even included a knock against Reine.
What the hell is going on?
What did this blog do to set him off that bad? I really didn't follow his meltdown after it left the blog.
There was some unpleasantness.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 9:58:47pm |
It's the little square of reflected light in the upper-right portion of her left lens.
I don't know, I think it's distracting.
:0
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:00:50pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
You called his BS off the bat.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:01:00pm |
re: #15 ggt
It's the little square of reflected light in the upper-right portion of her left lens.
I don't know, I think it's distracting.
:0
That would be her "Career Dissipation" warning light kicking in.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:01:21pm |
re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
That would be her "Career Dissipation" warning light kicking in.
ah!
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:03:06pm |
re: #12 Rightwingconspirator
His meltdown merely coincides with his appearance here.
To be honest, it was literally tuned it out when he went into full troll mode. What is he thinking is being accomplished calling C.J. names at a blog run by a couple of Eric Odom's inept trolls?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:04:53pm |
re: #10 Reginald Perrin
I have just been made aware that a "Barret Brown" went down to the blog too lame to be mentioned and made a childish comment that mimicked the rantings of Charles stalkers. He even included a knock against Reine.
What the hell is going on?
What did this blog do to set him off that bad? I really didn't follow his meltdown after it left the blog.
He thought that because Charles publicly "left the Right" he would receive Barrett Brown uncritically. My own assessment is that Barrett Brown saw LGF as a place whose notable status he could use to give heft to his support of Julian Assange. However, he is still very young and he did not understand that his anarchism would be very badly received by the patriotic Americans found in large numbers here (some liberal, some consevative, all of whom love their country). Lots of people took exception to his words, and Killgore was especially effective in refuting them. Barrett Brown couldn't adjust to this and so he left. But still lacking in self-reflection, he decided that Charles and LGF were the problem, not anything he had done. So he joined the Stalkers, but has had a rough go there too since they don't like his philosophy either (and they throw ugliness to an extent not tolerated here). I don't think he'll last there either. He's not going to be able to deal with strong disagreement with his views until he does some growing uo.
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tnguitarist Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:05:16pm |
re: #15 ggt
It's the little square of reflected light in the upper-right portion of her left lens.
I don't know, I think it's distracting.
:0
teleprompter?
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:06:11pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
There was some unpleasantness.
I understand the unpleasantness, what interests me more is how it escalated after he was banished from the blog. That was weeks ago and he is still fired up about it. Something is missing.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:06:58pm |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
He thought that because Charles publicly "left the Right" he would receive Barrett Brown uncritically. My own assessment is that Barrett Brown saw LGF as a place whose notable status he could use to give heft to his support of Julian Assange. However, he is still very young and he did not understand that his anarchism would be very badly received by the patriotic Americans found in large numbers here (some liberal, some consevative, all of whom love their country). Lots of people took exception to his words, and Killgore was especially effective in refuting them. Barrett Brown couldn't adjust to this and so he left. But still lacking in self-reflection, he decided that Charles and LGF were the problem, not anything he had done. So he joined the Stalkers, but has had a rough go there too since they don't like his philosophy either (and they throw ugliness to an extent not tolerated here). I don't think he'll last there either. He's not going to be able to deal with strong disagreement with his views until he does some growing uo.
QFT
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:09:07pm |
re: #16 Floral Giraffe
You called his BS off the bat.
I just helped him make his point without his help.
/nuance
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:09:15pm |
re: #22 Reginald Perrin
I understand the unpleasantness, what interests me more is how it escalated after he was banished from the blog. That was weeks ago and he is still fired up about it. Something is missing.
Perhaps the sudden realization that he wasn't drinking Pabst ironically?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:10:00pm |
re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
That would be her "Career Dissipation" warning light kicking in.
Upding for the "Backdraft" reference. Excellent movie, made even better by its being set and filmed in Chicago. The firehouse Robert de Niro's character works out of in the movie is still in use, located at Wentworth and Cermak right next to Moon Palace, my favorite restaurant in Chinatown.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:10:54pm |
re: #10 Reginald Perrin
Isn't that kind of like asking what Pamela Gellar thinks? And why?
You're never going to get an answer to why, other than crazy.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:13:18pm |
Hiya Hoops!
Hope all is well?
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:13:27pm |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
When you fuck up like Brown did, it's a good idea not to double down on the stupid and make an arse of yourself on a blog run by the odious Odomites.
He has pissed away any chance of being taken seriously.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:15:06pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:15:14pm |
re: #28 Floral Giraffe
Hiya Hoops!
Hope all is well?
Hi You..If Steve Martin wasn't on TV I'd be asleep right now..
Damn you Steve!
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:15:33pm |
re: #29 Reginald Perrin
Well, he writes for Vanity Fair, so what does that say?
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:16:03pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
Quoted For Truth.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:16:03pm |
re: #29 Reginald Perrin
When you fuck up like Brown did, it's a good idea not to double down on the stupid and make an arse of yourself on a blog run by the odious Odomites.
He has pissed away any chance of being taken seriously.
No, it's not a good idea, but that's what he did. Letting hate rule you is always a bad idea.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:16:25pm |
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:18:21pm |
re: #27 Floral Giraffe
I am the last person to defend her, but at least the shrieking harpy isn't hanging around with the stalker trolls and making childish remarks about three lizards.
LVQ and Dark Falcon were the other two.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:18:29pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
Quoted For Truth. Well done DF.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:20:10pm |
re: #29 Reginald Perrin
When you fuck up like Brown did, it's a good idea not to double down on the stupid and make an arse of yourself on a blog run by the odious Odomites.
He has pissed away any chance of being taken seriously.
He's out recruiting for his freedom of information internet activism, or whatever he wants to call it. Anarchy maybe.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:20:31pm |
re: #32 Floral Giraffe
All Vanity. No fair.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:22:21pm |
re: #36 Reginald Perrin
That's fair, she is forging her own way.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:22:38pm |
IDK. I turned on RW radio (local) this afternoon and the host says straight up that half the school board is stupid or corrupt right on the radio. No attempt at a balanced argument. You never hear that language on public radio. I had to shut it off. I don't think they're going to slow down.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:23:37pm |
re: #41 Amory Blaine
IDK. I turned on RW radio (local) this afternoon and the host says straight up that half the school board is stupid or corrupt right on the radio. No attempt at a balanced argument. You never hear that language on public radio. I had to shut it off. I don't think they're going to slow down.
To do so would mean admitting they might have gone too far, which they will never do.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:24:54pm |
Well, the pursed lip action reinforces my original assumption about the vid. She was pissed, but trying to be compassionate.
Anyone up for a duel??
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shai_au Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:25:47pm |
God help me, but I think I've become addicted to reading the comments at Hot Air.
Want to.... stop.... but.. can't... help
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:26:52pm |
re: #34 Dark_Falcon
No, it's not a good idea, but that's what he did. Letting hate rule you is always a bad idea.
It's not hate that leads to the meltdown, it's the combination of an inflated ego and a closed mind. He is Breitbart wannabe. I would love to see a cat fight between those two momma boys.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:29:54pm |
re: #43 Stanley Sea
Mud wrestling or Jello?
You can pick the color.
///
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:29:58pm |
re: #32 Floral Giraffe
Well, he writes for Vanity Fair, so what does that say?
Seriously, the print edition?
Are the editors aware of his rather irrational behavior?
“Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:32:03pm |
I'm sure there was a point to that.
I don't like these glasses as well as the dark-rimmed ones, and pink lip gloss is really not OK past thirty-five, even if you're being ironic.
(Yes, I like to play dress-up with public figures. Sue me.)
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:32:08pm |
re: #44 shai_au
God help me, but I think I've become addicted to reading the comments at Hot Air.
Want to... stop... but.. can't... help
Viddy well.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:32:13pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:32:17pm |
re: #47 Reginald Perrin
Well, according to him. It's big in his Biography. I don't think he would dare to lie about that. And it's their on line edition, not the magazine.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:33:41pm |
re: #10 Reginald Perrin
I have just been made aware that a "Barret Brown" went down to the blog too lame to be mentioned and made a childish comment that mimicked the rantings of Charles stalkers. He even included a knock against Reine.
What the hell is going on?
What did this blog do to set him off that bad? I really didn't follow his meltdown after it left the blog.
Charles' apparent superpower is to be able to make various sorts of wingnuts melt down and resent him for it for ages and ages.
This is not the superpower I personally would have chosen, but you take what you get.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:33:43pm |
re: #51 Floral Giraffe
Well, according to him. It's big in his Biography. I don't think he would dare to lie about that. And it's their on line edition, not the magazine.
An almost somebody significant.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:33:52pm |
re: #21 tnguitarist
teleprompter?
got called away, just catching-up.
Good Call!
Teleprompter telling her to breath? Is she really a blonde? :0
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:34:05pm |
re: #50 Reginald Perrin
It's pay per view, so yes.
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ClaudeMonet Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:34:54pm |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
He's not going to be able to deal with strong disagreement with his views until he does some growing up.
That applies to both Brown and Palin IMO.
re: #41 Amory Blaine
IDK. I turned on RW radio (local) this afternoon and the host says straight up that half the school board is stupid or corrupt right on the radio. No attempt at a balanced argument. You never hear that language on public radio. I had to shut it off. I don't think they're going to slow down.
Other than college basketball games and the news, I never listen to AM radio anymore. I find the people on it and the people who call in ignorant, rude, prejudiced, and incredibly aggravating.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:35:14pm |
re: #53 Reginald Perrin
Yes, a "close but no cigar". Probably not much of a paycheck, either.
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palomino Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:35:19pm |
re: #26 Dark_Falcon
Upding for the "Backdraft" reference. Excellent movie, made even better by its being set and filmed in Chicago. The firehouse Robert de Niro's character works out of in the movie is still in use, located at Wentworth and Cermak right next to Moon Palace, my favorite restaurant in Chinatown.
Can a movie directed by Ron Howard really be called "excellent?"
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:35:55pm |
re: #58 palomino
Can a movie directed by Ron Howard really be called "excellent?"
Why do you hate Willow?
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:36:19pm |
re: #54 ggt
Bottle Blonde, does that qualify as real, to you?
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palomino Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:36:57pm |
re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Why do you hate Willow?
I guess I'm subconsciously anti-midget little people.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:37:19pm |
re: #60 Floral Giraffe
Bottle Blonde, does that qualify as real, to you?
No, I was suggesting that she is a Bottle Brunnette.
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shai_au Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:39:00pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:39:52pm |
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SpaceJesus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:40:11pm |
re: #53 Reginald Perrin
An almost somebody significant.
Yeah, your email was great. I kinda guessed as much.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:41:45pm |
Someone explain what is going on with the repeal/vote thingy on the Health Care Bill. Is this the Bill that nobody read before it was voted on?
Yes, I've been in hibernation.
Thanks for your assistance.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:42:06pm |
re: #63 shai_au
:O
THEY'RE IN MY HEAD
Like carrion banshees who lurk in the shadow places, waiting to pluck the unwary from this world to the space beyond.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:42:23pm |
re: #55 Floral Giraffe
Then that explains why he couldn't handle having his ass kicked by a bunch of common bloggers. He failed to understand that bull shit doesn't go far at LGF. Did he really think he was going to be able to out debate this entire blog?
He bit off more than he can chew and cracked under pressure, that is unfortunate, but not fatal. Acting like you are in grade school and taunting your adversary from a stalker blog could be career derailing.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:42:49pm |
re: #66 Floral Giraffe
LOL! She probably is!
Actually, I had blonde highlights for a while and, yes, it made a difference in my cognitive abilities. :) So Bottled Blondes do count as blonde.
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shai_au Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:43:13pm |
re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Like carrion banshees who lurk in the shadow places, waiting to pluck the unwary from this world to the space beyond.
And the space beyond is Hot Air?
That would make a lot of sense, actually.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:43:24pm |
re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Viddy well.
[Video]
Love that tune. It always comes to mind while pulling weeds and killing slugs.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:45:11pm |
re: #71 shai_au
And the space beyond is Hot Air?
That would make a lot of sense, actually.
No, Hot Air is the space between Michelle Malkin's ears.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:45:40pm |
re: #72 Killgore Trout
Love that tune. It always comes to mind while pulling weeds and killing slugs.
Someone needs to mail the kids some Pennywise.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:49:47pm |
re: #65 SpaceJesus
Yeah, your email was great. I kinda guessed as much.
I have made it my hobby raining on their parades. They are used for training purposes, I am out of shape and need to practice.
I am working on something that may give Andy Breitfart, a Barret Brown style meltdown.
Many are called but few are chosen
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:50:02pm |
Off Topic:
The Loyalty Islands in the Pacific are having a really bad day. They got hit by a 7.0 earthquake earlier today, and they now have Tropical Cyclone Vania socking them.
I think could use some prayers after the day they had.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:53:50pm |
re: #75 Reginald Perrin
Sleep well and keep fighting on.
Sir.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:54:44pm |
re: #58 palomino
Can a movie directed by Ron Howard really be called "excellent?"
I love most of his directorial/producing work:
Director
[edit]Films
Year Title Oscar nominations Oscar wins Notes
1969 Old Paint Short film
Deed of Daring-Do Short film
Cards, Cads, Guns, Gore and Death Short film
1977 Grand Theft Auto Also writer
1982 Night Shift
1984 Splash 1
1985 Cocoon 2 2
1986 Gung Ho Also executive producer
1988 Willow 2
1989 Parenthood 2 Also writer
1991 Backdraft 3
1992 Far and Away Also writer/producer
1994 The Paper 1
1995 Apollo 13 9 2
1996 Ransom
1999 EDtv Also producer
2000 How the Grinch Stole Christmas 3 1 Also producer
2001 A Beautiful Mind 8 4 Also producer
2003 The Missing Also producer
2005 Cinderella Man 3 Also producer
2006 The Da Vinci Code Also producer
2008 Frost/Nixon 5 Also producer
2009 Angels & Demons Also producer
2011 The Dilemma Also producer
2013 The Dark Tower
[edit]Television
Year Film Notes
1978 Cotton Candy Writer/Director
1980 Skyward Director/Executive producer
1981 Through the Magic Pyramid Director/Executive producer
1983 Littleshots Director
1987 Take Five Director/Executive producer
2003 Arrested Development Executive producer
2010 Parenthood Executive producer only
[edit]
He's had the magic touch for sure.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:57:12pm |
re: #78 talon_262
Sorry about the formatting on the Wiki quote...here's the page.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:58:06pm |
re: #76 ProLifeLiberal
Off Topic:
The Loyalty Islands in the Pacific are having a really bad day. They got hit by a 7.0 earthquake earlier today, and they now have Tropical Cyclone Vania socking them.
I think could use some prayers after the day they had.
Seems like a lot of bad weather/nature stuff this month.
Snow is the least of the problems.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:59:25pm |
re: #45 Reginald Perrin
It's not hate that leads to the meltdown, it's the combination of an inflated ego and a closed mind. He is Breitbart wannabe. I would love to see a cat fight between those two momma boys.
Quite Concur. I wish there was a Scared Straight film we could show Barrett Brown, to let him know just how miserable he'll end up if he keeps going down the path he's on.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:00:29pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:01:43pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
Quite Concur. I wish there was a Scared Straight film we could show Barrett Brown, to let him know just how miserable he'll end up if he keeps going down the path he's on.
Hate gives a special kind of energy-euphoric for some. Can be really hard to give-up. Usually it burns itself out, or results in some ugly medical condition if the person doesn't deal with it.
Sad, IMHO. I know because I had to deal with it. Makes me sad when I see it in others.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:01:51pm |
re: #77 Floral Giraffe
Sleep well and keep fighting on.
Sir.
What fight?
There is no fight, this is all about having fun at a moron's expense.
I am a prankster blogger who is setting up his second big one. I work slow and do it to wind down after a long stressful day at work.
You see, my first big one ended badly because I of some unforeseen consequences. It's one of the reasons the stalkers have been given a pass, the last thing I could handle would be setting off a drunk gun freak like Martinez.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:02:10pm |
re: #58 palomino
Can a movie directed by Ron Howard really be called "excellent?"
I'd say so. And I always give bonus points to a good depiction of Chicago.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:02:51pm |
re: #85 Dark_Falcon
I'd say so. And I always give bonus points to a good depiction of Chicago.
The Apollo movie was very good. I liked it anyway.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:03:08pm |
re: #82 Killgore Trout
Perhaps the need to be "corrected"
[Video]
Btw, the full unedited scene for that is awesomely dark. I forgot how much has been taken out of that movie over the years.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:04:06pm |
A Beautiful Mind and Frost/Nixon weren't nothing to sneer at.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:04:21pm |
OT (actually do we have a topic right now?) - Do we still have the poster here who was living in Thailand? I can't remember his handle... I remember reading his posts about the political unrest over there...
I actually need to get in touch with somebody in Thailand about shipping items from there to the U.S. of A. There's a shop in Bangkok which sells some motorcycle accessories I'd like to put on my bike (a luggage rack which is not sold here in the U.S. - I have a small displacement bike and the manufacturer doesn't see my fellow U.S. 250-riders as worthy customers). Unfortunately the shop that sells this gear is asking really, REALLY high prices for shipping, and I wanted to know from an informed source if their quote for shipping was B.S.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:06:33pm |
re: #82 Killgore Trout
Perhaps the need to be "corrected"
[Video]
That book was the only book I ever read that gave me the heebeegeebees. Of course, I was in 8th grade. Never read another Stephen King since!
The movie never came close to the book. IMHO.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:06:57pm |
re: #90 Gus 802
Tom Hanks
"The last n***** on earth, starring..."
Sorry, flashed right to Chappelle.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:07:06pm |
Ah, I see the stalker blog of "true conservatives" is letting Barrett Brown Promote some rally of radical leftists in support of treason and espionage. Progressive Chen Zen is even feeding them anti-global warming threads. What a bunch of fucking lemmings.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:07:30pm |
re: #83 ggt
Hate gives a special kind of energy-euphoric for some. Can be really hard to give-up. Usually it burns itself out, or results in some ugly medical condition if the person doesn't deal with it.
Sad, IMHO. I know because I had to deal with it. Makes me sad when I see it in others.
Me too. But there's nothing we can do in Barrett Brown's case. He's either going to because a full-fledged hater, in which that hate truly will consume him, or (and thankfully this is the likely outcome) he'll eventually bottom out and with help come to see that the hatred is getting him nowhere.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:08:00pm |
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:08:48pm |
re: #95 ggt
It's on the Wiki List posted above?
Oh. I was thinking about Apollo 13. Tom Hanks played Jim Lovell.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:09:04pm |
re: #91 ggt
That book was the only book I ever read that gave me the heebeegeebees. Of course, I was in 8th grade. Never read another Stephen King since!
The movie never came close to the book. IMHO.
I Never read the book but I snuck (sneaked?) into the movie when I was just a little bit too young (about 11 or so). Scared the fuck out of me for decades.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:09:52pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
I Never read the book but I snuck (sneaked?) into the movie when I was just a little bit too young (about 11 or so). Scared the fuck out of me for decades.
READ THE BOOK.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:10:50pm |
re: #86 ggt
The Apollo movie was very good. I liked it anyway.
Apollo 13 was great, as well as the HBO miniseries From the Earth to the Moon (his other Apollo-era NASA project with Tom Hanks).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:11:35pm |
Ok, I've been without MY laptop since Monday. I get to use my kids when he isn't doing homework, which is most of the day. I shouldn't complain.
My audio-book and podcast selections on my iPhone is almost depleted. If I try to download from his iTunes, it could be a mess. I've done it before and created some sort of havoc.
My life is soooooo hard. :)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:12:41pm |
re: #99 talon_262
Apollo 13 was great, as well as the HBO miniseries From the Earth to the Moon (his other Apollo-era NASA project with Tom Hanks).
I got to see a couple of episodes from the mini-series. Someday, I'll gather all the DVD's from things I want to see and have a marathon.
Of course, by then everything will be dowloaded directly to the TV and I'll be too old to figure-out how to get at them. ha!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:13:00pm |
re: #98 ggt
READ THE BOOK.
I can't stand Steven King. There have been some decent movie adaptations of some of his stuff like Stand By Me, Shawshank, Shining, etc but most of it just seems like garbage. I don't have much patience for mass produced fiction novels. He probably has some good stuff but if I'm going to read I generally go with non fiction.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:15:04pm |
re: #102 Killgore Trout
I can't stand Steven King. There have been some decent movie adaptations of some of his stuff like Stand By Me, Shawshank, Shining, etc but most of it just seems like garbage. I don't have much patience for mass produced fiction novels. He probably has some good stuff but if I'm going to read I generally go with non fiction.
The Shining was one of his first. He wasn't into the "formula" quite so hard, I gather.
There is so much more drama/anticipation in the book. He describes what is going on in Jack's head in a way a movie can't depict.
Seriously creepy, and I remember all that from XX years ago.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:15:54pm |
The more you talk about them the more it feeds them. They thrive on the attention. Of course I can't talk but I'm making an effort to embargo those folks as of late.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:15:56pm |
Kilgore, I take that back I tried reading the first of his Dark Tower? series. Couldn't get into it at all.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:16:01pm |
re: #93 Killgore Trout
Ah, I see the stalker blog of "true conservatives" is letting Barrett Brown Promote some rally of radical leftists in support of treason and espionage. Progressive Chen Zen is even feeding them anti-global warming threads. What a bunch of fucking lemmings.
Chen Zhen reposted my #20. To him and Barrett Brown I say: Gentlemen, if you think me wrong in my assessment, make a case to show me where I am wrong. Put up a post on it, and I promise to read it.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:17:50pm |
re: #103 ggt
The Shining was one of his first. He wasn't into the "formula" quite so hard, I gather.
There is so much more drama/anticipation in the book. He describes what is going on in Jack's head in a way a movie can't depict.
Seriously creepy, and I remember all that from XX years ago.
I liked a lot of his short stories. As for his books, I liked Needful Things best.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:18:50pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
This isn't normal behavior for an adult, especially the name calling.
The consider the ones he was attacking, how many of them were significant participants on that thread. I thought that Kilgore was the one that lead the charge.
He is sucking up to twajie because he knows how much he currently hates those three lizzards. It like he went from the penthouse to the outhouse in only a few weeks.
I promise not to squeal to the editors, but I bet there will be at least one reader pissed off enough to do the dirty deed.
*hint*
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:19:51pm |
The hardest part of the Radical Conservative mind-set to get thru to is the part that wants to "return" to the perfect past.
Someone recently quoted some statistic to me from the 1870-80's about the percentage of voter turn-out. Something extraordinarily high. I had to point out to them that a significant portion of the population was not able to vote. Oh, it was after the Civil War--when I guess, technically speaking, blacks were allowed to vote.
I then had to point out that WOMEN did not vote then--1/2 (approx) of the population.
The figures do not compare.
The look in their eyes made me hope that maybe, maybe, the cogs were beginning to turn.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:23:05pm |
re: #109 ggt
The hardest part of the Radical Conservative mind-set to get thru to is the part that wants to "return" to the perfect past.
Someone recently quoted some statistic to me from the 1870-80's about the percentage of voter turn-out. Something extraordinarily high. I had to point out to them that a significant portion of the population was not able to vote. Oh, it was after the Civil War--when I guess, technically speaking, blacks were allowed to vote.
I then had to point out that WOMEN did not vote then--1/2 (approx) of the population.
The figures do not compare.
The look in their eyes made me hope that maybe, maybe, the cogs were beginning to turn.
I hope so as well. Historical ignorance is a very serious problem in America. There are a number of people here who actively work to counter it. Charles is the greatest of that number, but I would also count myself as one actively in the fight for historical truth. But the liars are very loud and the truth tellers few, which makes the task very hard.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:25:02pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
I hope so as well. Historical ignorance is a very serious problem in America. There are a number of people here who actively work to counter it. Charles is the greatest of that number, but I would also count myself as one actively in the fight for historical truth. But the liars are very loud and the truth tellers few, which makes the task very hard.
Historical Truth and Historical Perspective.
The figure quoted probably was the "historical truth" quoted from the time it was published. In perspective, it is not accurate as it only took in to account the percentage of registered voters.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:25:09pm |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
IMO, what you should do is take a stand, and stick to it. The stalkez, well, they are stalkerz, and not worth anyone's time. F them. Who cares? Why do you even go read there? Deranged minds are feeding on the attention.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:27:55pm |
re: #112 Floral Giraffe
IMO, what you should do is take a stand, and stick to it. The stalkez, well, they are stalkerz, and not worth anyone's time. F them. Who cares? Why do you even go read there? Deranged minds are feeding on the attention.
Killgore mentioned it to me. When people say I'm badly off base in my analysis, it is my custom to ask them to make the case that I have so erred.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:28:04pm |
re: #109 ggt
The hardest part of the Radical Conservative mind-set to get thru to is the part that wants to "return" to the perfect past.
Someone recently quoted some statistic to me from the 1870-80's about the percentage of voter turn-out. Something extraordinarily high. I had to point out to them that a significant portion of the population was not able to vote. Oh, it was after the Civil War--when I guess, technically speaking, blacks were allowed to vote.
I then had to point out that WOMEN did not vote then--1/2 (approx) of the population.
The figures do not compare.
The look in their eyes made me hope that maybe, maybe, the cogs were beginning to turn.
Ah the good old days. Most of our impressions of the past are generally framed around literature or the works and writings of the idle rich of the day. It is a reflection of Madison Avenue and not Five Points. Many people did vote but that was because they would pay you to vote. Vote early, and vote often. Corruption was rampant all across America. Living was rough and poverty was everywhere. The romanticism and reality were two different things.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:28:06pm |
re: #93 Killgore Trout
Ah, I see the stalker blog of "true conservatives" is letting Barrett Brown Promote some rally of radical leftists in support of treason and espionage. Progressive Chen Zen is even feeding them anti-global warming threads. What a bunch of fucking lemmings.
It appears that there has been drawing of lines between the different factions at the stalker blog. They are having a civil war. Barret Brown is an anarchist, maybe he thinks he can somehow influence the outcome of the war and use the stalkers in some sort of fight against LGF.
Martinez once asked me to help him take over LGF, so it isn't out of the question. I just found out about it tonight, so it is strictly conjecture at this point.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:29:41pm |
re: #115 Reginald Perrin
It appears that there has been drawing of lines between the different factions at the stalker blog. They are having a civil war. Barret Brown is an anarchist, maybe he thinks he can somehow influence the outcome of the war and use the stalkers in some sort of fight against LGF.
Martinez once asked me to help him take over LGF, so it isn't out of the question. I just found out about it tonight, so it is strictly conjecture at this point.
hahahahahaha
I think Charles would make that a bit difficult.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:32:10pm |
re: #114 Gus 802
Ah the good old days. Most of our impressions of the past are generally framed around literature or the works and writings of the idle rich of the day. It is a reflection of Madison Avenue and not Five Points. Many people did vote but that was because they would pay you to vote. Vote early, and vote often. Corruption was rampant all across America. Living was rough and poverty was everywhere. The romanticism and reality were two different things.
I know, but when people have the "facts". . . .
All I can do is try to put it in perspective. "Do you really want to go back to a time when only white men could vote?" Only the most vehement racists and misogynist , which I think are very few, would want that.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:35:13pm |
re: #116 ggt
hahahahahaha
I think Charles would make that a bit difficult.
I having been pissing in their coffee for four years, we're talking about the gang that can't shoot straight. It's going to be fun and just sit back and watch twajie and crew perform another epic fail.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:36:45pm |
re: #115 Reginald Perrin
He also claims to be recruiting Lizards, that are supporting him.
Good luck with that!
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:37:30pm |
re: #117 ggt
I know, but when people have the "facts". . . .
All I can do is try to put it in perspective. "Do you really want to go back to a time when only white men could vote?" Only the most vehement racists and misogynist , which I think are very few, would want that.
Correct. And what you mention adds to the reality of the so called good old days. They were terrible except for a select few. There could be so much more to add like medicine and life expectancy which was abysmally low. Not only white men but white men of wealth and those that owned land or in many cases slaves. The only people that would want to return to that would have to be racists and misogynists. But even then they're fooling themselves because most of these people today are working class runts that would not have been given the time of day in "the good old days". They want that only to avoid paying 23 percent of their taxes? Have they forgotten about debtors prisons? Being shot for desertion?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:37:36pm |
re: #112 Floral Giraffe
IMO, what you should do is take a stand, and stick to it. The stalkez, well, they are stalkerz, and not worth anyone's time. F them. Who cares? Why do you even go read there? Deranged minds are feeding on the attention.
ahh, I've been looking for an excuse to repost this.
I really like this song. Kudos to whomever originally posted it. Killgore?
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:38:16pm |
re: #118 Reginald Perrin
I having been pissing in their coffee for four years, we're talking about the gang that can't shoot straight. It's going to be fun and just sit back and watch twajie and crew perform another epic fail.
LOL!
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:38:51pm |
re: #119 Floral Giraffe
He also claims to be recruiting Lizards, that are supporting him.
Good luck with that!
There may be some veracity to that claim, time will tell.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:39:18pm |
Cholera, Indian "wars", polio, dust bowls, riots, lynchings, hangings, slavery, drought, etc.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:39:31pm |
re: #119 Floral Giraffe
He also claims to be recruiting Lizards, that are supporting him.
Good luck with that!
We've heard that from those fellows time and again. It never amounts to a hill of beans. If they want to talk like that, I'm not going to worry about it.
Goodnight, all.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:43:14pm |
re: #124 Gus 802
Cholera, Indian "wars", polio, dust bowls, riots, lynchings, hangings, slavery, drought, etc.
No ANTIBIOTICS!
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:43:15pm |
re: #121 ggt
OK, WHERE did you get the video of my live performance?
That was awesome!
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palomino Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:43:18pm |
re: #78 talon_262
I love most of his directorial/producing work:
He's had the magic touch for sure.
I guess I'm a movie snob, but I think Ron Howard is kind of a lightweight. He doesn't have the wit, innovative visual style, weighty themes or risktaking of great directors like the Coens, Aronofsky, Egoyan, Scorsese, Eastwood, et al. He's too pat, too Hollywood, too happy ending.
But he can push buttons emotionally. I'll admit I've cried during several of his films.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:43:25pm |
From a local disease, cholera became one of the most widespread and deadly diseases of the 19th century, killing an estimated tens of millions of people. In Russia alone, between 1847 and 1851, it is estimated that the death toll exceeded one million. In the United States, there were 150,000 cholera deaths during the second pandemic. In the two decades between 1900 and 1920, perhaps eight million Indians died of cholera.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:43:36pm |
re: #125 Dark_Falcon
We've heard that from those fellows time and again. It never amounts to a hill of beans. If they want to talk like that, I'm not going to worry about it.
Goodnight, all.
D.F, you have to accept reality, it is not out of the realm of possibility. Nothing would shock me after Cato flounced.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:44:21pm |
re: #131 Reginald Perrin
D.F, you have to accept reality, it is not out of the realm of possibility. Nothing would shock me after Cato flounced.
Cato flounced?
Well, I'll be . . .
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:44:46pm |
re: #128 Floral Giraffe
OK, WHERE did you get the video of my live performance?
That was awesome!
You are soooo awesome!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:45:25pm |
NO ELECTRICITY, no computers, no LGF
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:46:21pm |
re: #135 ggt
NO ELECTRICITY, no computers, no LGF
eeek!
They didn't even have simple things like Anbesol. Aspirin if they were lucky.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:49:01pm |
Typhus, typhoid fever, diphtheria, rickets, tuberculosis and scarlet fever.
Ah, the good old days.
What was the life expectancy? 50 years old tops?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:50:00pm |
re: #138 Gus 802
Typhus, typhoid fever, diphtheria, rickets, tuberculosis and scarlet fever.
Ah, the good old days.
What was the life expectancy? 50 years old tops?
According to the chart I referenced above, it didn't reach 50 until 1900, and just barely.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:50:25pm |
re: #139 ggt
According to the chart I referenced above, it didn't reach 50 until 1900, and just barely.
Not for blacks until 1940.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:50:50pm |
re: #139 ggt
According to the chart I referenced above, it didn't reach 50 until 1900, and just barely.
I see that. Whew. In 1850 it was 39.5 for white women and 23.0 for black women.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:52:34pm |
re: #140 ggt
Not for blacks until 1940.
Excerpt:
But it is clear that much of the decline was due to rapid reductions in specific infectious and parasitic diseases, including tuberculosis, pneumonia, bronchitis, and gastro-intestinal infections, as well as such well-known lethal diseases as cholera, smallpox, diphtheria, and typhoid fever. Nineteenth-century cities were especially unhealthy places, particularly the largest ones. This began to change by about the 1890s, when the largest cities instituted new public works sanitation projects (such as piped water, sewer systems, filtration and chlorination of water) and public health administration. They then experienced rapid improvements in death rates. As for the present, rural-urban mortality differentials have converged and largely disappeared. This, unfortunately, is not true of the differentials between whites and blacks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:52:43pm |
re: #141 Gus 802
I see that. Whew. In 1850 it was 39.5 for white women and 23.0 for black women.
The organization that owns the website did some adustments --looks like anyway. I don't know them, just googled for the info.
It doesn't look far off tho.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:54:19pm |
re: #144 Gus 802
Public works! Socialism!
//
I was wondering how much the rise of the corporate structure also affected things. More transportation, more jobs, more affordable goods etc.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:55:36pm |
re: #145 ggt
I was wondering how much the rise of the corporate structure also affected things. More transportation, more jobs, more affordable goods etc.
Did corporations pay taxes back then? How much of the public works were endowed/underwritten by the corporations, who were then going to get contracts --here we go with big city corruption between officials and corporations . . .
ha!
It was the beginning of the end . . . .
/
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:56:44pm |
re: #131 Reginald Perrin
Sleep tight, Sir.
Good Night this time.
Be well, all.
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Gus Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:56:59pm |
re: #145 ggt
I was wondering how much the rise of the corporate structure also affected things. More transportation, more jobs, more affordable goods etc.
The industrial age. The decline in corruption. The prevalence of building standards and clean water, sewage, etc. Child labor laws. Yes, corruption has declined since the days of Boss Tweed.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:57:39pm |
re: #148 Gus 802
The industrial age. The decline in corruption. The prevalence of building standards and clean water, sewage, etc. Child labor laws. Yes, corruption has declined since the days of Boss Tweed.
I know . . . :)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 13, 2011 11:59:22pm |
Well, it's time to sleep. I'll be dreaming of the good ole' days.
Have a great morning/day all!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 14, 2011 12:10:50am |
re: #141 Gus 802
I see that. Whew. In 1850 it was 39.5 for white women and 23.0 for black women.
I feel remarkably elderly now.
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Jan 14, 2011 12:17:42am |
It appears I misspoke earlier, Barret Brown did not make the comment toward Reine. It was part of a comment made in reply to Barret. I received a tip and went down to see it and the blog isn't loading properly, must have something to do with traffic.
Barret Browns childish rant was in fact directed towards Charles, so it is still not Vanity Fair behavior. And the fruitcake was reading this thread and ran back to stalkers blog and cried fowl.
He also sploded the irony meter....
His dig at C.J. was accusing him of constantly reading the stalker's blog, and he made it while he was reading Charles blog. He must have been reading Charles's because he ran back to the stalker's and cried fowl, at 220am EST.
Mr. Brown, get over it, you fucked up and are making a fool of yourself.
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Jan 14, 2011 12:18:21am |
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Jan 14, 2011 12:25:39am |
i just read the requirements for my cooking class. holy f*cking sh*t batman. boot camp for intro to cooking. i kid you not.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 14, 2011 12:45:04am |
Don't forget, Mr. Brown regularly declined to debate or discuss things here at LGF and instead invited Lizards to engage him at a blog where he could see their otherwise "private info" (IP Address, etc), and got bounced from that blog for exposing such info of one commenter in a thread at said blog.
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boxhead Fri, Jan 14, 2011 12:46:07am |
re: #156 eclectic infidel
i just read the requirements for my cooking class. holy f*cking sh*t batman. boot camp for intro to cooking. i kid you not.
Is the class called The Next iron Chef?
/
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boxhead Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:04:25am |
oh well.... I guess I will play video games instead.... :p
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AK-47% Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:08:26am |
re: #156 eclectic infidel
i just read the requirements for my cooking class. holy f*cking sh*t batman. boot camp for intro to cooking. i kid you not.
I guess I am lucky for having had the opportunity to learn cooking from family and friends and to learn to have fun doing it...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:17:26am |
It's time for your medication, Mr. Brown.
G'nite y'all.
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:43:54am |
re: #161 ralphieboy
I guess I am lucky for having had the opportunity to learn cooking from family and friends and to learn to have fun doing it...
I enjoy cooking, that's why I am attending a culinary program - so I can turn the passion into a career. I had no idea what to expect in terms of rules and expectations, so it's a bit of a shock, but nothing I can't handle.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:05:20am |
re: #129 palomino
I guess I'm a movie snob, but I think Ron Howard is kind of a lightweight. He doesn't have the wit, innovative visual style, weighty themes or risktaking of great directors like the Coens, Aronofsky, Egoyan, Scorsese, Eastwood, et al. He's too pat, too Hollywood, too happy ending.
But he can push buttons emotionally. I'll admit I've cried during several of his films.
Ron Howard's movies are, basically, directed by Opie Taylor.
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Mardukhai Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:06:06am |
Actually, that video just seemed a little creepy...
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:08:59am |
So Barrett Brown joined the stalkers. Did he flounce when people didn't buy his BS about Assange and Wikileaks?
How could he possibly expect people to agree with him on that?
WTF.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:15:05am |
re: #138 Gus 802
Typhus, typhoid fever, diphtheria, rickets, tuberculosis and scarlet fever.
Ah, the good old days.
What was the life expectancy? 50 years old tops?
You had none of your modern food additives back then either. Folks were content with good old honest to goodness lead chromate in their milk to give it that nice and creamy look. No wonder people were so healthy. /
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:19:19am |
re: #168 Jimmah
So Barrett Brown joined the stalkers. Did he flounce when people didn't buy his BS about Assange and Wikileaks?
How could he possibly expect people to agree with him on that?
WTF.
Barrett kept telling us we were ignorant and that he had met Assange several times and we just didn't get his vision. Calls for Barrett to help create a free and open society without secrets by posting his credit card numbers went unanswered...
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AK-47% Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:20:31am |
re: #170 Jimmah
You had none of your modern food additives back then either. Folks were content with good old honest to goodness lead chromate in their milk to give it that nice and creamy look. No wonder people were so healthy. /
I think a lot of women's low life expectncy had to do with so many dying of complications from childbirth.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:23:24am |
re: #172 ralphieboy
And "life expectancies" that are usually given are averages, which tend to not tell one about the actual distribution.
Still, disease was tricky for anyone. I notice that cholera is mentioned upstream. To me the hallmark of civilization is a sewer system.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:24:21am |
re: #173 freetoken
And "life expectancies" that are usually given are averages, which tend to not tell one about the actual distribution.
Still, disease was tricky for anyone. I notice that cholera is mentioned upstream. To me the hallmark of civilization is a sewer system.
The lowly sanitation engineer turns out to be one of the biggest heroes of mankind.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:26:26am |
Morning... leaving for the airport in about 60 minutes. I was looking over Continental's web site and trying to find out if there was any option for me to per-order the type of pat down I wanted.
I think that could be an marketable option, maybe of frequent flyers or Elite class passengers or something like that.
Please select from the following options...
1) Touching of the genitals twice, one pat on the ass.
2) Breast pat down... one handed.
3) Breast pat down... two handed (size 36d and larger).
4) Full orifice search (along 20 extra minutes for after search cigarette and shower)
I think the airlines are missing something.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:27:59am |
re: #175 Walter L. Newton
Morning... leaving for the airport in about 60 minutes. I was looking over Continental's web site and trying to find out if there was any option for me to per-order the type of pat down I wanted.
I think that could be an marketable option, maybe of frequent flyers or Elite class passengers or something like that.
Please select from the following options...
1) Touching of the genitals twice, one pat on the ass.
2) Breast pat down... one handed.
3) Breast pat down... two handed (size 36d and larger).
4) Full orifice search (along 20 extra minutes for after search cigarette and shower)I think the airlines are missing something.
Security Kabuki Theater.
Have a great trip Walter!!!
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AK-47% Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:28:44am |
Three engineers discussing the nature of God:
The mechanical engineer maintains "God was a mechanical engineer: just look at how the system of bones and joints all fit and work together so perfectly in the human body."
The electrical engineer maintains: "No, he was an electrical engineers, just look at our nervous system and how incredibly effective it is in relaying information and commands."
The civil engineer responds, "No, god was a civil engineer: who else would have put a sewage outlet right in the middle of a recreation area?"
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:30:33am |
re: #104 Gus 802
The more you talk about them the more it feeds them. They thrive on the attention. Of course I can't talk but I'm making an effort to embargo those folks as of late.
Me too. Just one point though - I just had a look there now to see BB - first time I've looked in ages - and I see chenZen (as the minotaur...lol) raking up old posts featuring idiots like "little old lady" getting lots of updings for making inane pretend food eating posts, and "mandy mannners" for saying things like "I hope everyone who didn't vote for Mcain are fucking happy now". Sure, it was pathetic that those sort of omments used to get so many updings - but most of those responsible aren't here anymore - they are over there, and at the other stalker blog.
They are taking the piss out of themselves and they are too stupid to realise it. They are the ones who were obsessed with karma in an unhealthy way, and that obsession continues over there now, which is very funny.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:33:32am |
re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
That would be her "Career Dissipation" warning light kicking in.
Perfect application of an Airdale meme.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:34:14am |
re: #172 ralphieboy
I think a lot of women's low life expectncy had to do with so many dying of complications from childbirth.
Absolutely.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:38:30am |
re: #10 Reginald Perrin
I have just been made aware that a "Barret Brown" went down to the blog too lame to be mentioned and made a childish comment that mimicked the rantings of Charles stalkers. He even included a knock against Reine.
What the hell is going on?
What did this blog do to set him off that bad? I really didn't follow his meltdown after it left the blog.
Communications gap. On the great psychic spectrum, BB was somewhat closer to James O'Keefe than he was to Reine.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:43:25am |
Morning, but I can't stay. We're traveling this morning, not (sob) to Paris.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:44:48am |
Rev. Pat Robertson sparked controversy in today's broadcast of his "700 Club" program when he claimed that God created the blizzard currently battering the Northeast "to punish Americans who were planning to drive to do something gay."
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
BBL
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:46:37am |
re: #151 Gus 802
I have a book of his photos here someplace.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:47:05am |
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:47:05am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:47:05am |
re: #185 Decatur Deb
Morning, but I can't stay. We're traveling this morning, not (sob) to Paris.
You'll be with me in heart. All of LGF. (Well... all of LGF except... )
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:47:55am |
re: #191 Walter L. Newton
You'll be with me in heart. All of LGF. (Well... all of LGF except... )
Bring back pastries.
For all of us.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:48:34am |
re: #189 Decatur Deb
Anniston, Alabama "The City of Blights".
Who did you piss off to get that assignment?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:50:16am |
re: #194 researchok
Kid married-in there. I'm babysitting for the "Half-Naked Marathon".
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:53:54am |
re: #195 Decatur Deb
Kid married-in there. I'm babysitting for the "Half-Naked Marathon".
Ahhhh.
Not so bad then.
Here's what you do: Before you leave, sugar the kids up- kool aid, doughnuts, like that.
I threaten my daughter with that when she has kids.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:54:21am |
re: #193 researchok
Bring back pastries.
For all of us.
Keep me away from cigarettes. I'm so tempted to have a smoke with a good cup of espresso when I get there.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:55:09am |
re: #197 Walter L. Newton
Keep me away from cigarettes. I'm so tempted to have a smoke with a good cup of espresso when I get there.
I hear that.
They do coffee well. Really well.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:55:45am |
re: #197 Walter L. Newton
Keep me away from cigarettes. I'm so tempted to have a smoke with a good cup of espresso when I get there.
Gauloise. Got a beret and pencil moustache?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:57:26am |
re: #199 Decatur Deb
Gauloise. Got a beret and pencil moustache?
And a yellowed copy of Jacques Kerouac?
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:59:23am |
Zee French
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freetoken Fri, Jan 14, 2011 3:59:32am |
María Luisa Anido playing Boceto indígena:
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:00:33am |
re: #198 researchok
re: #199 Decatur Deb
Well... you two aren't being of any help.
And yes... Gauloises were my brand of choice when visiting France. When I was smoking I love a strong cigarette with a bite. I went through 2 packs of Gauloises a day when I was there... and always brought back the maximum allowed by customs without a duty.
It's a psychological trigger that I haven't had to deal with since I stopped smoking. I do now.
And on top of all that, I've had some good Cuban Havana's offered to me from a ex-pat friend.
Grrrrr......
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:01:20am |
re: #203 Walter L. Newton
re: #199 Decatur Deb
Well... you two aren't being of any help.
And yes... Gauloises were my brand of choice when visiting France. When I was smoking I love a strong cigarette with a bite. I went through 2 packs of Gauloises a day when I was there... and always brought back the maximum allowed by customs without a duty.
It's a psychological trigger that I haven't had to deal with since I stopped smoking. I do now.
And on top of all that, I've had some good Cuban Havana's offered to me from a ex-pat friend.
Grrr...
Pauvre enfant...
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:01:35am |
re: #200 Decatur Deb
And a yellowed copy of Jacques Kerouac?
I had a pencil mustache last a year ago, around Xmas, for a role at the theatre... going for that John Waters look.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:02:41am |
re: #205 Walter L. Newton
I had a pencil mustache last a year ago, around Xmas, for a role at the theatre... going for that John Waters look.
I am so glad you didn't say Ed Woods.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:04:16am |
re: #206 researchok
I am so glad you didn't say Ed Woods.
Any difference? Waters is just a contemporary Ed Woods. But Waters went mainstream.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:04:18am |
re: #202 freetoken
María Luisa Anido playing Boceto indígena:
[Video]
I don't know where you find this stuff, but it's damn good.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:04:20am |
re: #206 researchok
I am so glad you didn't say Ed Woods.
I was thinking the mock Fred Astaire beat in "Funny Face".
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:06:20am |
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:07:12am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:07:24am |
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freetoken Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:07:35am |
re: #208 researchok
I don't know where you find this stuff, but it's damn good.
Thanks. I'm working on the hypothesis that everything ever recorded and intended for release can be found on the internet, somewhere.
Plenty of stuff not intended for release, too...
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:09:00am |
re: #214 freetoken
Thanks. I'm working on the hypothesis that everything ever recorded and intended for release can be found on the internet, somewhere.
Plenty of stuff not intended for release, too...
I'm actually pretty hooked on your music links.
Eases me into the morning.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:10:23am |
re: #213 Walter L. Newton
Grrr...
What? You think you're going to Paris, leaving the rest of us behind and not have to deal with projected envy?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:11:03am |
re: #214 freetoken
Thanks. I'm working on the hypothesis that everything ever recorded and intended for release can be found on the internet, somewhere.
Plenty of stuff not intended for release, too...
Belle Barth "party" records? There's your test case.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:12:05am |
re: #212 researchok
That and Walter's fine Cubans.
Nice.
I think I've mentioned it, but I'm meeting a Lizard in Paris... for anonymity purposes, I'll keep the screen name to myself.
This will make the 3rd Lizard that I will have met face to face in Europe... and there has been 4 here in the US, including those who have bedded down here at the Secret Mountain Lair.
And the interesting thing about all that, out of 7 Lizards, only 1 of them were politically in line with me. The other 6 were left of center. We all get along.
Lizards are basically adults... who at most times can agree to disagree.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:13:22am |
re: #218 Walter L. Newton
I think I've mentioned it, but I'm meeting a Lizard in Paris... for anonymity purposes, I'll keep the screen name to myself.
This will make the 3rd Lizard that I will have met face to face in Europe... and there has been 4 here in the US, including those who have bedded down here at the Secret Mountain Lair.
And the interesting thing about all that, out of 7 Lizards, only 1 of them were politically in line with me. The other 6 were left of center. We all get along.
Lizards are basically adults... who at most times can agree to disagree.
Yeah, away from the comment 'momentum', we're a pretty good lot, overall.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:13:24am |
re: #217 Decatur Deb
Belle Barth "party" records? There's your test case.
Forget it--she's on YouTube. Watch on your own time.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:17:59am |
Gotta split. "The hills are alive with the sound of wheezing runners". Have a good time Walter. If you cash in your return ticket, you can probably afford a month in a garrett.
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AK-47% Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:19:35am |
re: #219 researchok
Yeah, away from the comment 'momentum', we're a pretty good lot, overall.
I am a Eurolizard of American origin.
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researchok Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:22:27am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:26:56am |
re: #218 Walter L. Newton
Lizards are basically adults... who at most times can agree to disagree.
Sez you, ya big poopy head !
Fly Safe!
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AK-47% Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:27:37am |
re: #223 researchok
I am an American lizard of Euro origin.
Maybe we could meet on a raft in the middle of the Atlantic, or on St. Helena...
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:28:28am |
re: #225 sattv4u2
Lizards are basically adults... who at most times can agree to disagree.
Sez you, ya big poopy head !
Fly Safe!
Ben Voages... I'm out of here.
Catch you on Greenwich Mean Time.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:29:03am |
re: #226 ralphieboy
Maybe we could meet on a raft in the middle of the Atlantic, or on St. Helena...
Not to surre St Helena wants the two of you on her at the same time
(and if so, at the very least buy her dinner and flowers 1st!)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:29:39am |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Ben Voages... I'm out of here.
Catch you on Greenwich Mean Time.
12:29:30 as we "speak"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:47:02am |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Enjoy, Walter! Good sailing!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:47:47am |
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:51:55am |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was probably funnier that way.
I'm laughing, anyway.
It looks like an angry robot melting down.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:53:16am |
re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wish Sharmuta was around. Look what I found! (I made a rhyme)
┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩&# 9488;
Sorry, but I left my Captain Crunch Super Decoder ring at home
BTW ,, how's your wife doing?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:53:58am |
Copied and pasted it, then, didn't preview. If the symbols ain't on my keyboard, I have no idea where to find them.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:54:31am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:57:39am |
re: #234 sattv4u2
Something I'll never understand... sports scores.
So, a team beats another team 28-14. Then looses to the same team 45-3.
Looking forward to Sunday's game. I've been rooting for the Jets this year (though I have grown to respect Brady).
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:58:18am |
re: #236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That is so freaking weird. Like I said, my brother had an atrial fibrillation at the same time, with the same diagnosis. And I just found out my grandmother had an atrial fibrillation, too, right about the same time, with a non-specific diagnosis.
I hate coincidences.
But I'm really glad to hear that the heart is healthy and strong.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:01:12am |
(:/)
Hey! It's a South Park Canadian Emoticon!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:03:48am |
re: #238 Obdicut
It was weird. They attributed the numbness in her arm to a pinched nerve. Her heart (They ran "Hey! She has insurance" tests) and the nurse commented how healthy her fifty(ish) heart is.
I was very relieved. Now, when I get the co-pay bill? I'll have heaviness in the chest and numbness in my left arm.
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palomino Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:15:32am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:16:01am |
WHOOO HOOOO
YIPP PPPEEE
YAAA HHOOOO
FINALLY
I've finished the RFP (request for proposal) technical specs for the contract NBC wants us to sign!
Been working on this now for about two months
All the "I"s have been dotted and the "T"s crossed
All I have to do is hit SEND and off it goes to legal and corporate
Yippee For Me ,,,, REST ,,BLISSFUL REST
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Surabaya Stew Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:25:32am |
re: #242 sattv4u2
WHOOO HOOO
YIPP PPPEEE
YAAA HHOOO
FINALLY
I've finished the RFP (request for proposal) technical specs for the contract NBC wants us to sign!
Been working on this now for about two months
All the "I"s have been dotted and the "T"s crossedAll I have to do is hit SEND and off it goes to legal and corporate
Yippee For Me ,,, REST ,,BLISSFUL REST
Hey, thats a great feeling to have! Sleep tight....
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deranged cat Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:26:33am |
damn. if i knew you guys were up i'd have hung out here. but now it's time for me to sleep (5:30am) and i am an idiot for staying up so late.
good night and GOOD MORNING NORMAL PEOPLE WITH NORMAL LIVES.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:27:22am |
re: #243 Surabaya Stew
Hey, thats a great feeling to have! Sleep tight...
Yup,,, now I can go back to my "normal" 60-70 hour work week!!!
:(
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Surabaya Stew Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:33:29am |
re: #245 sattv4u2
Yup,,, now I can go back to my "normal" 60-70 hour work week!!!
:(
I'd say there's nothing "normal" about that....except for the fact that as an Architect, I know firms and people who do that crap even when its quite useless. (12 hours at the job yesterday for me). I know a bit about your line of work, and I can honestly say that television/film is a harder industry to deal with when it comes to time management. 8 hour days turning into 16 hour days happens all the damn time....at least it did for me!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:40:46am |
re: #242 sattv4u2
I love that "The moment it is too late 'preview is my friend'" moment.
Actually... I hate that moment. That moment sucks.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:44:04am |
re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love that "The moment it is too late 'preview is my friend'" moment.
Actually... I hate that moment. That moment sucks.
My part of the proposal goes to corporate so they can brush up any grammatical faux pas I may have made. They won't touch the technical stuff because they have no idea what it is, and when NBC gets the proposal what I wrote is for THEIR techies, not their legal and "suits"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:46:34am |
re: #248 sattv4u2
The edit folks won't catch grammar. Hard to check sentence structure when you don't know what the hell you are reading.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:46:43am |
re: #246 Surabaya Stew
I'd say there's nothing "normal" about that...except for the fact that as an Architect, I know firms and people who do that crap even when its quite useless. (12 hours at the job yesterday for me). I know a bit about your line of work, and I can honestly say that television/film is a harder industry to deal with when it comes to time management. 8 hour days turning into 16 hour days happens all the damn time...at least it did for me!
We're in satellite/ fiber optic broadcasting worldwide. We do olots of work for all the major networks as well as the Turner Family (CNN, TNT , TBS, etc) and LOTS of sports,.,, ESPN ,, We send NFL to Europe and South America via satellite
We're 24/7 and there are 5 of us
YOU do the math!!
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:48:10am |
re: #250 sattv4u2
We're in satellite/ fiber optic broadcasting worldwide. We do olots of work for all the major networks as well as the Turner Family (CNN, TNT , TBS, etc) and LOTS of sports,.,, ESPN ,, We send NFL to Europe and South America via satellite
We're 24/7 and there are 5 of us
YOU do the math!!
5 + 24 / 7 = 11ty!
Did I get it right?
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:52:47am |
It's Friday, I get out of work at 3:00.
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:53:59am |
BIB I have to go do some stuff with animals.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:55:08am |
re: #252 Alouette
It's Friday, I get out of work at 3:00.
It's Friday,, I get to LEAVE work at 11 (although I have been here since 9 last night) and get to come BACK to work at 10 tonight!!
YYIIPPPEE FOR ME
Oh well,, At least I got to go home for a few hours yesterday for a power nap and a shower after having been here from Monday night at about 7 till yesterday morning at about 10!
(WOW ,, how my son has grown!!)
//
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 5:56:19am |
re: #253 jadespring
BIB I have to go do some stuff with animals.
Are you one of those Men That Talk To Goats!?
(and if it's anything else ,,, I donnwannaknow!!)
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:04:01am |
re: #254 sattv4u2
It's Friday,, I get to LEAVE work at 11 (although I have been here since 9 last night) and get to come BACK to work at 10 tonight!!
YYIIPPPEE FOR MEOh well,, At least I got to go home for a few hours yesterday for a power nap and a shower after having been here from Monday night at about 7 till yesterday morning at about 10!
(WOW ,, how my son has grown!!)
//
I'm sure the big buck you earn make it all worth it.
//
Seriously I did that around-the-clock overtime thing years ago, made a bunch of money, missed a bunch of birthdays, my anniversaries, etc. until I decided that it really wasn't worth it. Rather earn less and spend the time with my family.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:08:39am |
re: #256 Alouette
I'm sure the big buck you earn make it all worth it.
//
Seriously I did that around-the-clock overtime thing years ago, made a bunch of money, missed a bunch of birthdays, my anniversaries, etc. until I decided that it really wasn't worth it. Rather earn less and spend the time with my family.
This one wasn;t planned nor mandatory
We had a "big" snowstorm here in Atlanta that started Sunday late night into Monday very early a.m.. Left us with 3-4 inches of snow, but early Monday morning it turned into freezing rain. So all the roads are covered with a thin sheet of ice. Driving here is always a "pleasure" but add the ice and the people here not used to those conditons and what fun it is!!
It usually takes me 60-75 minutes to get to or from work. Monday it took me just over 3 HOURS,,
In that I was scheduled for a 12 hour shift with a 12 hour turnaround before the next one it just didn;'t make sense to drive 6 hours (3 each way) just to be back to where I already was!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:10:13am |
re: #256 Alouette
re: #258 sattv4u2
This one wasn;t planned nor mandatory
We had a "big" snowstorm here in Atlanta that started Sunday late night into Monday very early a.m.. Left us with 3-4 inches of snow, but early Monday morning it turned into freezing rain. So all the roads are covered with a thin sheet of ice. Driving here is always a "pleasure" but add the ice and the people here not used to those conditons and what fun it is!!
It usually takes me 60-75 minutes to get to or from work. Monday it took me just over 3 HOURS,,
In that I was scheduled for a 12 hour shift with a 12 hour turnaround before the next one it just didn;'t make sense to drive 6 hours (3 each way) just to be back to where I already was!
PLUS the excellent chance someone sliding into me on the road!
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:11:46am |
re: #258 sattv4u2
This one wasn;t planned nor mandatory
We had a "big" snowstorm here in Atlanta that started Sunday late night into Monday very early a.m.. Left us with 3-4 inches of snow, but early Monday morning it turned into freezing rain. So all the roads are covered with a thin sheet of ice. Driving here is always a "pleasure" but add the ice and the people here not used to those conditons and what fun it is!!
It usually takes me 60-75 minutes to get to or from work. Monday it took me just over 3 HOURS,,
In that I was scheduled for a 12 hour shift with a 12 hour turnaround before the next one it just didn;'t make sense to drive 6 hours (3 each way) just to be back to where I already was!
Sucks when shit happens.
All that overtime I put in years ago was for another "natural" disaster: Y2K!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:11:53am |
here was my point back a few weeks ago...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
this treaty is only as good as the paper it's written on....the GOP was trying to get some concessions from the Russians to try and prevent this very thing from happening....but they were merely fucking with BO and endangering the US, right?....such partisan bullshit
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:14:24am |
re: #260 Alouette
Sucks when shit happens.
All that overtime I put in years ago was for another "natural" disaster: Y2K!
OH NOES,,,,, TEH END OF TYMES!!!
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ClaudeMonet Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:15:26am |
re: #190 researchok
This is the week for crazy.
Really crazy.
Every week is crazy, just as all times are "perilous".
Crazy, but not boring.re: #205 Walter L. Newton
I had a pencil mustache last a year ago, around Xmas, for a role at the theatre... going for that John Waters look.
I've tried to go the pencil-thin mustache route, but I always wind up with the full 'stache. I never get those kind of roles, anyway; lately it's been a run of useless, clueless authority figures. I need a good, old-fashioned villain role.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:15:58am |
re: #261 albusteve
We also reserve the right to withdraw from a pact. There's no sort of pact that a country could sign that would somehow prevent them from withdrawing from it. The GOP was not trying to get concessions from the Russians to prevent 'this very thing'-- there's no way of preventing a country from withdrawing from a pact at the instant they choose to.
The point is the actual draw-down in warheads and delivery systems. They could withdraw from it at any time-- that doesn't mean they can magically make those warheads and delivery systems reappear.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:16:52am |
re: #261 albusteve
here was my point back a few weeks ago...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
this treaty is only as good as the paper it's written on...the GOP was trying to get some concessions from the Russians to try and prevent this very thing from happening...but they were merely fucking with BO and endangering the US, right?...such partisan bullshit
heh ,, ya gotta luv it
could withdraw from the pact if it felt threatened by the West.
Who decides what a "threat" is?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:17:59am |
re: #263 ClaudeMonet
lately it's been a run of useless, clueless authority figures.
Type casting!?!?!
///
:)
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otoc Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:20:30am |
Lol, I'm gonna have to lurk a bit longer to remotely understand some of the topics here.
But this video? Great editing. The only thing I see in the eyes is hypocrisy regarding teleprompters. But the lips and the gasps? Either that's an attempt to push a contrived subliminal message of frustration that others don't see her point of view or she's simply frustrated that people don't buy into her media packaging. Then again it could simply be the whimpering victim act.
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ClaudeMonet Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:20:45am |
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dmon Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:23:59am |
[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]
An Open Letter to Parents Following the Tragedy in Tucson
Dear parents,
Like so many Americans all across the country, Barack and I were shocked and heartbroken by the horrific act of violence committed in Arizona this past weekend. Yesterday, we had the chance to attend a memorial service and meet with some of the families of those who lost their lives, and both of us were deeply moved by their strength and resilience in the face of such unspeakable tragedy.
As parents, an event like this hits home especially hard. It makes our hearts ache for those who lost loved ones. It makes us want to hug our own families a little tighter. And it makes us think about what an event like this says about the world we live in – and the world in which our children will grow up.
In the days and weeks ahead, as we struggle with these issues ourselves, many of us will find that our children are struggling with them as well. The questions my daughters have asked are the same ones that many of your children will have – and they don’t lend themselves to easy answers. But they will provide an opportunity for us as parents to teach some valuable lessons – about the character of our country, about the values we hold dear, and about finding hope at a time when it seems far away.
We can teach our children that here in America, we embrace each other, and support each other, in times of crisis. And we can help them do that in their own small way – whether it’s by sending a letter, or saying a prayer, or just keeping the victims and their families in their thoughts.
We can teach them the value of tolerance – the practice of assuming the best, rather than the worst, about those around us. We can teach them to give others the benefit of the doubt, particularly those with whom they disagree.
We can also teach our children about the tremendous sacrifices made by the men and women who serve our country and by their families. We can explain to them that although we might not always agree with those who represent us, anyone who enters public life does so because they love their country and want to serve it.
Christina Green felt that call. She was just nine years old when she lost her life. But she was at that store that day because she was passionate about serving others. She had just been elected to her school’s student council, and she wanted to meet her Congresswoman and learn more about politics and public life.
And that’s something else we can do for our children – we can tell them about Christina and about how much she wanted to give back. We can tell them about John Roll, a judge with a reputation for fairness; about Dorothy Morris, a devoted wife to her husband, her high school sweetheart, to whom she’d been married for 55 years; about Phyllis Schneck, a great-grandmother who sewed aprons for church fundraisers; about Dorwan Stoddard, a retired construction worker who helped neighbors down on their luck; and about Gabe Zimmerman, who did community outreach for Congresswoman Giffords, working tirelessly to help folks who were struggling, and was engaged to be married next year. We can tell them about the brave men and women who risked their lives that day to save others. And we can work together to honor their legacy by following their example – by embracing our fellow citizens; by standing up for what we believe is right; and by doing our part, however we can, to serve our communities and our country.
Sincerely,
Michelle Obama
Nice letter from the First Lady. Unfortunately I found the link at Free Republic, need to go barf and scrub my brain down with bleach after reading the comments. Seriously, what could any person find fault with in this letter?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:25:06am |
re: #264 Obdicut
We also reserve the right to withdraw from a pact. There's no sort of pact that a country could sign that would somehow prevent them from withdrawing from it. The GOP was not trying to get concessions from the Russians to prevent 'this very thing'-- there's no way of preventing a country from withdrawing from a pact at the instant they choose to.
The point is the actual draw-down in warheads and delivery systems. They could withdraw from it at any time-- that doesn't mean they can magically make those warheads and delivery systems reappear.
and the Russians can toss it away whenver they feel threatened...
The amendments stipulate that Russia could withdraw if military deployments or even plans by the United States or NATO jeopardize its security.
They highlight lingering rifts over U.S. plans for a European anti-missile shield and Russian concerns over other weapons it fears the United States or NATO could deploy.
my point was and is that you cannot trust the Russians, and the treaty has less to do with numbers of warheads, than it does with strong arming the US over anti-missile defense....basically it's worthless
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ClaudeMonet Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:28:07am |
re: #266 sattv4u2
lately it's been a run of useless, clueless authority figures.
Type casting!?!?!
///
:)
Useless and clueless, yes; authority figure, no. At my "base" theater group, I got roped into being Duh Prez again after the previous President stressed out; that means I get to preside over board meetings and tell the other board members and production teams, "Feel free to let me know something, some time."
I say "base" theater group because I have to go elsewhere to get any rewarding parts. Fortunately, there's a lot of groups here.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:28:23am |
re: #270 albusteve
and the Russians can toss it away whenver they feel threatened...
Read the whole article, Steve.
The Duma's warnings of a possible withdrawal are largely a matter of emphasis, because the treaty itself includes broad language allowing either side to pull out if it decides its "supreme interests" are threatened.
Would you really want us to enter into a treaty that we couldn't back out of if the Russians started building, say, massive biotech weapons?
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otoc Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:29:04am |
re: #269 dmon
[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]
Seriously, what could any person find fault with in this letter?
A person so rigid in a mindset that examples that might erode their position are seen in a filtered light?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:29:51am |
Washington Times trashes the memorial service in Tucson...more of the same actually...
President Obama is cynically exploiting the tragic shooting in Tucson for political gain. His memorial address Wednesday night was a surreal spectacle in narcissistic self-congratulation. It dishonored the victims, those who were murdered and maimed by Jared Lee Loughner, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Arizona Democrat.
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:30:46am |
re: #269 dmon
I'm guessing a lot of people would find fault with this part:
We can teach them the value of tolerance – the practice of assuming the best, rather than the worst, about those around us. We can teach them to give others the benefit of the doubt, particularly those with whom they disagree.
Probably a lot of wingnuts saying that assuming the best is weakness, or would lead to assuming the best about the Nazis, etc. etc.
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dmon Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:31:01am |
re: #273 otoc
I do have to admit some bias on my part...... I've had a big crush on Michelle for a while now.......In fact if she ever dumps that big eared guy who is horning in on my personal crush,,,,,theres always extra room at my house.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:31:57am |
re: #272 Obdicut
Read the whole article, Steve.
Would you really want us to enter into a treaty that we couldn't back out of if the Russians started building, say, massive biotech weapons?
of course the US can pull out...what's the big deal?...the treaty does not bind anybody to anything...little would change if there was no treaty at all....1500, 3500, whatever it takes
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:32:26am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Gov. Christie was in my neck of the woods yesterday at an open house and touched on a wide range of issues, but this one stuck out in a big way. On the same day that the state Supreme Court was looking into whether Christie's education budget was somehow violative of the constitution's requirements for a thorough and efficient education system (I believe the court and proponents of this action are seriously misreading the constitutional requirement), Christie proposed a new method of providing education services for autistic students. He proposes that each county provide a single school for autistic students so that they can focus on such services rather than spread that money out to individual schools and school districts.
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dmon Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:32:31am |
re: #275 Obdicut
"Who is Michelle Obama to tell me I should raise my kids to be decent human beings? That decision should be left the parents"
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:34:41am |
re: #277 albusteve
The treaty changes the number of nuclear warheads and launches around. That is the point of the treaty.
Can you explain why you think things would be no different without a treaty?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:35:01am |
wow...
90 Pregnancies At One Memphis High School...
a whole lotta shakin goin on
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otoc Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:35:30am |
re: #276 dmon
I do have to admit some bias on my part... I've had a big crush on Michelle for a while now...In fact if she ever dumps that big eared guy who is horning in on my personal crush,,,theres always extra room at my house.
lol, my point was to support your observation. Too much info! Need to wipe the coffee off my face...
Without lust in my heart, I think she wrote a well thought out opinion.
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dmon Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:36:42am |
re: #282 otoc
There you have it....... the lusters and non-lusters can agree....its a new day in America
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:36:54am |
re: #280 Obdicut
The treaty changes the number of nuclear warheads and launches around. That is the point of the treaty.
Can you explain why you think things would be no different without a treaty?
because of the provisions for withdrawal if 'threatened', whatever that is...and the fact that there is little difference between 1500 or 2500 if you decide to use them...
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:37:59am |
re: #278 lawhawk
The central schools for autists could be a seriously, seriously bad idea. Autism is a spectrum disorder. The difference between a child who has mild autism and one who has severe autism is extreme. A child with mild autism is more closely related to a child with some other form of learning disability than they are to a child with a more extreme form of autism.
Furthermore, for those with mild autism, access to 'normal' peers helps them. Sectioning them off with the more autistic is almost certainly going to result in worse outcomes.
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McSpiff Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:39:38am |
re: #284 albusteve
because of the provisions for withdrawal if 'threatened', whatever that is...and the fact that there is little difference between 1500 or 2500 if you decide to use them...
Well yes, there's always a provision in these treaties to withdraw. But if I'm not mistaken, the weapons or launchers must be stored in a certain manner that makes entering them back into service at least somewhat difficult in all cases. Its not a 20 minute type operation, which helps.
About the numbers... well, we gotta start somewhere, and look at how difficult it was to even get this reduction.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:39:43am |
re: #285 Obdicut
That's a possibility, but it will be interesting to see how he fleshes out the idea and whether it gets implemented in any form.
From the Star Ledger:
The news came as a welcome surprise to Linda Meyer, executive director of Autism New Jersey, a family advocacy and research group."We know the governor has prioritized education reform for everyone,’’ Meyer said. "It sounds like he is aiming for equality and access for all. He wants to increase access, not just those who live in certain zip codes.’’
"I am really excited about his attention and confident he will come through for us,’’ she added.
The idea of how to best educate a child with autism has evolved over 40 years, starting with parents in the 1970s insisting children attend public schools but are taught separately. In the 1980s and 1990s, parents fought for "inclusion" inside classrooms with other children.
"Now we see a trend toward segregated programs," said Lisa Ruble, an associate professor at the University of Kentucky’s Department of Educational, School, and Counseling Psychology Ruble said.
Ruble, who specializes in autism research, said she was not familiar with Christie’s proposal of creating more separate schools.
"I personally believe that each program must be individualized and that some children may benefit for a period of time in a specialized program that does not include typical peers," she said. "But I have observed, and research also shows, that children with autism benefit from social skills interventions and need access to typical peers for this learning."
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:40:16am |
re: #284 albusteve
Again: If you withdraw, you can't simply cast 'summon nuclear missile' and have them appear. The treaty limits the number of warheads and active launchers. Withdrawing would mean you had to take time to build up again.
.and the fact that there is little difference between 1500 or 2500 if you decide to use them...
That part is true. Mainly what the treaty does is allow us to save a shitload of money, and to inspect Russian nuclear weapons. One of the benefits of this in the current time is that the Russians are, basically, run by ex-KGB and gangsters who are unpredictable and unscrupulous in the extreme. It is vitally important that we be able to track Russian warheads, both to prevent them being sold to an extremist group and to be able to verify simply that they're being properly maintained.
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ClaudeMonet Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:40:31am |
re: #274 albusteve
Shaking my head.
Yes, a lot of the speech was boilerplate, and the fact that the President came to Tucson and made the speech itself could be seen as political--but that's because any President is a politician. This speech was about as apolitical as a President's speech can be, and still the haters jump on him about it. It takes a strong man (or woman) to not tell the RW crowd and its media outlets to f*** off.
I see no harm in either the President's speech or Mrs. Obama's letter, and possibly some good. Even if the words are standard issue, the fact that they came to the scene of the tragedy is good in itself. It would have been the perfect opportunity for the haters to pretend to be considerate, even gracious, but once again they have shown their true selves. And what we're seeing isn't pretty.
I thought that things couldn't be worse than the rampant BDS we saw during the last Presidency. I was wrong. ODS is far worse, both in numbers, severity, and potential threat.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:43:57am |
re: #287 lawhawk
Chris Christie is someone who supports 'choice' on vaccination, and has linked vaccination to autism. He's not a guy who I trust at all to make anything approaching to an informed decision on the subject.
We need to look at all the different things affecting autism in New Jersey because we have the highest rate in the country. Not just the environmental concerns but vaccinations.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:46:03am |
Economic reality is colliding with legal reality and the results are not pretty. In 2010, for the first time ever, more than one million homes were seized by banks. The number of foreclosure filings, which includes default notices, houses sold at auction, and those which were repossessed, hit 2.9 million, also a record. That’s economic reality.
Right now about 5 million borrowers are at least two months behind on their mortgages, and many of those mortgages are “underwater,” meaning the owners owe more on their mortgages then their homes are currently worth.
we have a very long way to go before the market comes about and strikes bottom...scary thought, our economic bulldozer is in such desperate condition
[Link: frontpagemag.com...]
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dmon Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:46:35am |
re: #274 albusteve
I find it fascinating. After the speech those in the middle, many on the left and many on the right, saw his comments about civility being aimed at both sides and at no one in particular. The far right though has taken his comments as a personal attack.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:47:10am |
re: #284 albusteve
because of the provisions for withdrawal if 'threatened', whatever that is...and the fact that there is little difference between 1500 or 2500 if you decide to use them...
Less Russian nukes = Lesser chance of one of them being stolen by bad guys.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:48:23am |
re: #293 Varek Raith
Or just blowing up due to lack of maintenance.
Not in a critical reaction, probably, but a missile with a warhead exploding wouldn't exactly be awesome.
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:48:43am |
re: #255 sattv4u2
Are you one of those Men That Talk To Goats!?
(and if it's anything else ,,, I donnwannaknow!!)
:D
Well I did try to have a chat with the cockerels while I was out there. Told them to behave or else find themselves in the stew pot. Don't think they listened.
May have to do that anyway. It's sucks to be male on a farm.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:49:08am |
re: #286 McSpiff
Well yes, there's always a provision in these treaties to withdraw. But if I'm not mistaken, the weapons or launchers must be stored in a certain manner that makes entering them back into service at least somewhat difficult in all cases. Its not a 20 minute type operation, which helps.
About the numbers... well, we gotta start somewhere, and look at how difficult it was to even get this reduction.
I'm not opposed to the treaty per se....I think the hand wringing and undy bunching if it doesn't get signed is unsubstantiated
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:50:32am |
re: #296 albusteve
I'm not opposed to the treaty per se...I think the hand wringing and undy bunching if it doesn't get signed is unsubstantiated
No treaty = No inspectors on the ground in Russia. They were far from unsubstantiated.
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McSpiff Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:50:39am |
re: #296 albusteve
I'm not opposed to the treaty per se...I think the hand wringing and undy bunching if it doesn't get signed is unsubstantiated
You're mellowing out.
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iossarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:51:17am |
re: #296 albusteve
I'm not opposed to the treaty per se...I think the hand wringing and undy bunching if it doesn't get signed is unsubstantiated
What is the upside of the treaty not being signed?
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otoc Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:52:29am |
re: #283 dmon
There you have it... the lusters and non-lusters can agree...its a new day in America
lol, that it is. Or at least a more extreme day compared to the past since the internet has linked so many of the same mind without placing an idiot filter between the keyboard and the database. And this is why I no longer believe we should abolish the electoral component of presidential elections.
btw, lust is good. She's just not my type.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:52:43am |
re: #288 Obdicut
Again: If you withdraw, you can't simply cast 'summon nuclear missile' and have them appear. The treaty limits the number of warheads and active launchers. Withdrawing would mean you had to take time to build up again.
That part is true. Mainly what the treaty does is allow us to save a shitload of money, and to inspect Russian nuclear weapons. One of the benefits of this in the current time is that the Russians are, basically, run by ex-KGB and gangsters who are unpredictable and unscrupulous in the extreme. It is vitally important that we be able to track Russian warheads, both to prevent them being sold to an extremist group and to be able to verify simply that they're being properly maintained.
no question...this is one of the most pressing international problem on the books and if the treaty breaks ground here then that's a good thing, but if the Russians want to lose warheads they will do it regardless
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:54:08am |
re: #301 albusteve
If the Russians 'lose' a warhead, we will know about it-- if we have this treaty in place. That is one of the main provisions of the treaty; tracking the warheads.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:55:15am |
re: #299 iossarian
What is the upside of the treaty not being signed?
can't think of one, which is why I said sign the damned thing and be done with it....back then
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:56:39am |
re: #293 Varek Raith
Less Russian nukes = Lesser chance of one of them being stolen by bad guys.
it's my understanding that there are already lost warheads and more than a few...maybe I read it in a Ludlum book....LOL
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iossarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:57:28am |
re: #303 albusteve
can't think of one, which is why I said sign the damned thing and be done with it...back then
Well, I think this answers the question as to why there is "hand-wringing and panty-bunching".
There is no upside to not signing the treaty. There are significant advantages to doing so.
And yet, there is delay.
(Someone should ask the John Boehner how much it costs the government to maintain the extra warheads, and how many JOBS THAT KILLS!!!!!)
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 6:57:36am |
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iossarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:01:22am |
re: #305 iossarian
"Is"/"was" - past tense applies in previous comment.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:02:14am |
Interesting map.
[Link: www.genecurtis.com...]
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iossarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:02:51am |
BTW, love this paranoia from the comments to the Yahoo article:
The rest of the world sees us as a joke. The left has been pushing the PC movement for many years now and it's resulted in the wussification of the United States. You know why countries like Russia screw with us like this? Because they can and they know we won't do diddly about it. It'd be great if people all around the world could hold hands and sing but frankly the world doesn't work like that. We look like the biggest chumps in the world right now.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:03:14am |
re: #308 Varek Raith
Interesting map.
[Link: www.genecurtis.com...]
An Estimated 92 Lost Nuclear Bombs Rest at These 15 Sites
[Link: www.genecurtis.com...]
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:04:41am |
Texas is moving on their budget deficit...a non-partisan approach it looks like
AUSTIN — An estimated 8,000 state jobs would be slashed and the remaining workers could face furloughs under starting-point budget plans to cope with a revenue shortfall, legislative leaders said on Thursday.
"The introduced bill will cut state employees," Pitts said at a question-and-answer session hosted by the Texas Tribune. "There will be less state employees when we're completed probably with this budget process, because we are going to have a whole lot less money to spend."
[Link: www.chron.com...]
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:10:17am |
re: #311 albusteve
Playing shell games with their budget finally caught up with them, eh?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:10:25am |
Silvio is in the news again...the Gangster Of Love
ROME — Prosecutors are investigating whether Premier Silvio Berlusconi had sex with a teenage prostitute and then abused his power in trying to cover up the encounters with the girl, officials said Friday.
The latest allegations are tawdry even for scandal-jaded Italians, however, and they come at a moment of particular vulnerability for the blunt-speaking, high-living prime minister.
[Link: www.chron.com...]
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:11:16am |
re: #312 Varek Raith
Playing shell games with their budget finally caught up with them, eh?
most states are in the same shape to some degree...unfunded mandates
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McSpiff Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:13:50am |
re: #304 albusteve
it's my understanding that there are already lost warheads and more than a few...maybe I read it in a Ludlum book...LOL
The problem with the Russian nukes in my mind is really two fold, and this treaty does nothing to address either of them...
1) Brain power. The North Korean ICBMs are awfully similar to Soviet Submarine launched missiles. Which is odd, because the NK's don't have a submarine launch platform. Most likely, these guys were outta work and they got hired up by the North Koreans in 90's. There's a lot of Soviet experts out there that could really be a force multiplier for anyone looking to develop a WMD, be it chemical, biological or nuclear. Plus delivery systems.
2) What would a terrorist group really want in a nuke? I'm including groups like Syria, North Korea in here as well. Well, something relatively portable. These groups are unlikely to get their hands on a complete Soviet launch system, so if they have a Soviet ICBM warhead, they're either just going to turn it into a dirty bomb (lame), or make sure you understand how to properly arm it (without the original launch computers), odds are you're going to just be trucking it in, so realistically you'll need a way to say "screw targeting, screw altitude, just detonate in your 'silo'".
Now what's easy are unguided or semi-guided missiles and artillery shells. We've seen in Iraq and Afghanistan that you can turn those into IEDs, all kind of fun stuff. The tactical nukes. That's what everyone and their uncle Ahmed want. And that's the one thing we aren't including in these treaties. Because that's the one thing the Russians will not even consider reducing. NATO is on their boarders now. Its not a matter of hurling Nukes across the Atlantic anymore. Its lobbing them 50km into Lithuania. Quite frankly, Russia is happy to reduce their strategic stockpiles because they know their missiles are now just rotting in their silos anyway. A limited, but more modern force based around the road mobile Topol-M is their ideal situation. And America essentially agreed to not try to "out shoot" the Russians.
So while this treaty is certainly a positive, but I think we're missing the larger picture if we think this is a game charger.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:14:08am |
re: #311 albusteve
Texas is moving on their budget deficit...a non-partisan approach it looks like
AUSTIN — An estimated 8,000 state jobs would be slashed and the remaining workers could face furloughs under starting-point budget plans to cope with a revenue shortfall, legislative leaders said on Thursday.
"The introduced bill will cut state employees," Pitts said at a question-and-answer session hosted by the Texas Tribune. "There will be less state employees when we're completed probably with this budget process, because we are going to have a whole lot less money to spend."[Link: www.chron.com...]
From your link:
According to a state audit report for fiscal year 2010, an average of just over 310,941 full-time equivalent employees were employed in state agencies or higher education institutions.
Andy Homer, of the Texas Public Employees Association, said state government runs efficiently and cuts would affect vital services. He said it is unclear how many of the position cuts would translate to layoffs.
I don't know what happens in Texas.
I know in Louisiana, when they talk of "cutting positions", 99% of what are cut are VACANT positions for which no money is outflowing at the current time - few people are actually taken off the payroll.
In many states these things are an illusion, to satisfy the public that something is being done; it's the same thing with "early retirement" bills for public employees.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:15:15am |
Conservative radio talk show host Mark Levin has put out a stunning challenge to those left-wing media personalities accusing conservative talk radio stars and Sarah Palin of encouraging murder.
First, he offered $100,000 to Chris Matthews to find any example where Sarah Palin or Levin himself had "promoted the murder of anybody."
some big money in the rhetoric business these days...AmIdol prize money is not pocket change
[Link: spectator.org...]
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:17:17am |
re: #312 Varek Raith
That compares with Illinois, where the lame duck legislature pushed through a huge tax hike. They say it's only temporary (four years), but it's resulting in a 66% increase in the personal income tax rate (from 3 to 5%), big hikes in corp tax rate (4.8% to 7%), and other taxes and fees. Curiously, no hike on tobacco products.
The tax hikes wont close the budget deficit fully, and the failure to pass the debt financing for the balance uncovered by the tax hikes means that the budget will remain a mess. The state did pass a debt financing measure to cover its pension obligations, but that just kicks the problem down the road.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:18:20am |
re: #315 McSpiff
nice post, and I agree with all of it....there are some seriously big fish to fry out there where a sternly worded letter just doesn't get it done...a much larger threat than the Russians and their potential made up fears
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:20:01am |
re: #316 reine.de.tout
From your link:
I don't know what happens in Texas.
I know in Louisiana, when they talk of "cutting positions", 99% of what are cut are VACANT positions for which no money is outflowing at the current time - few people are actually taken off the payroll.
In many states these things are an illusion, to satisfy the public that something is being done; it's the same thing with "early retirement" bills for public employees.
are you implying that a state govt might not be upfront with the voters?...let me think about that a second
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:20:19am |
re: #316 reine.de.tout
From your link:
I don't know what happens in Texas.
I know in Louisiana, when they talk of "cutting positions", 99% of what are cut are VACANT positions for which no money is outflowing at the current time - few people are actually taken off the payroll.
In many states these things are an illusion, to satisfy the public that something is being done; it's the same thing with "early retirement" bills for public employees.
There's really not much a governmental entity can do to substantially reduce spending without cutting services; and no legislator in his right ever wants to do it.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:20:57am |
re: #285 Obdicut
The central schools for autists could be a seriously, seriously bad idea. Autism is a spectrum disorder. The difference between a child who has mild autism and one who has severe autism is extreme. A child with mild autism is more closely related to a child with some other form of learning disability than they are to a child with a more extreme form of autism.
Furthermore, for those with mild autism, access to 'normal' peers helps them. Sectioning them off with the more autistic is almost certainly going to result in worse outcomes.
Completely agree. We have always pushed for our son to be in with as high functioning peers as possible, including mainstream inclusion. The social interaction with regularly developing kids is cruicial, especially to mid-high functioning autistic kids.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:21:04am |
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:21:54am |
re: #318 lawhawk
The main difference would be that tax hikes actually bring in money to pay for things.
I really wish people would start thinking about how much money it costs to cut services. I'd hoped the fire department that watched the house burn would get people thinking about it, but apparently not.
When someone talks about cutting a program, I'd really like for them to address what the costs of cutting that program will be.
When someone talks about funding a program, I want them to explain the science and logic behind why it will actually work, and isn't a waste of money.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:22:00am |
re: #318 lawhawk
That compares with Illinois, where the lame duck legislature pushed through a huge tax hike. They say it's only temporary (four years), but it's resulting in a 66% increase in the personal income tax rate (from 3 to 5%), big hikes in corp tax rate (4.8% to 7%), and other taxes and fees. Curiously, no hike on tobacco products.
The tax hikes wont close the budget deficit fully, and the failure to pass the debt financing for the balance uncovered by the tax hikes means that the budget will remain a mess. The state did pass a debt financing measure to cover its pension obligations, but that just kicks the problem down the road.
[Link: the-guiding-light-message-board.529340.n2.nabble.com...]
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McSpiff Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:27:23am |
re: #319 albusteve
nice post, and I agree with all of it...there are some seriously big fish to fry out there where a sternly worded letter just doesn't get it done...a much larger threat than the Russians and their potential made up fears
There is some great work being done on the non-proliferation front though, just doesn't make the front page. Which is the way it should be done, IMO.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:29:52am |
Fuck this ain't good:
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:29:59am |
re: #324 Obdicut
For example, NY increased state spending by 5% all while raising taxes and fees last year into the teeth of a recession and its budget forecast on revenues fell well short - exacerbating the annual and long term deficits. Watch the same thing happen in IL when the tax revenues expected don't materialize and leave the state in an even bigger budget hole - forcing still more tax hikes and cuts.
In places like NY - keeping the budget level at the same level as the previous year is treated as a cut, even though it is nothing of the sort particularly when inflation is at such low levels.
The states kept ramping up spending without regard to how it was paying for any of it. Debt payments are a significant drain on the ongoing operations for states around the country and defaults are a real risk according to folks like Warren Buffet and other experts.
The ARRA of 2009 masked many of the state budget problems with one-shot payments that covered operational budgets, but that money is no longer available to paper over the serious problems at the state level. Decisions that should have been made on spending were delayed and are now coming due - and the results wont be pretty.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:32:52am |
re: #328 lawhawk
But you need to ask the question, for every piece of spending, if that spending was needed. In some cases, an increase in spending is going to save you money. Just as failure to properly deal with the debt is kicking the can down the road, slashing spending is very often simply delaying problems. Slash spending on school maintenance, save money in the short term, but four, five years, you'll have to spend more money than you did in the first place.
There is no benefit to be had from simplistically analyzing spending levels. Or simplistically analyzing tax levels.
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laZardo Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:38:00am |
Speaking of bad breath, here's an animé to cleanse your mind of today's bad craziness.
It's like Japan is making fun of what 'filthy gaijin' think of their animated works.
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:38:01am |
Oh dear. The cockerels (hatched in Sept) are getting there 'crows'. They seem to be having a practice session right now. Sounds like they're dying.
Think of the rooster version of young boys voices changing and cracking at puberty and deciding to sit around a yell at each other...
That's what my back yard sounds like right now.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:39:08am |
re: #327 Obdicut
Fuck this ain't good:
Funny how they're always 'disguised in police uniforms'...These kinds of 'prison breaks' are awfully common over there. One would think it might be a good idea for the guards to know how many police are inside at a given time. One goes in carrying a backpack full of clothes, and seven officers come out. Hell, just a log book where you sign in/sign out on the same line could prevent that kind of exodus.
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McSpiff Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:42:41am |
re: #332 darthstar
Funny how they're always 'disguised in police uniforms'...These kinds of 'prison breaks' are awfully common over there. One would think it might be a good idea for the guards to know how many police are inside at a given time. One goes in carrying a backpack full of clothes, and seven officers come out. Hell, just a log book where you sign in/sign out on the same line could prevent that kind of exodus.
Or guards who like us even.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:44:41am |
re: #332 darthstar
Or: Don't hire the guards who are actually insurgents. Just a thought.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:48:46am |
re: #329 Obdicut
An increase in spending could save money long term - say in infrastructure maintenance (think painting bridges to prevent corrosion and structural failure). Yet spending can go out of control even on programs that appear to be worthwhile. New Jersey's school construction fund was a multibillion dollar flop where the billions of dollar set aside didn't result in building schools, because lack of oversight, corruption, and inefficiencies meant that instead of hundreds of schools getting rehabilitated, built, or expanded, just a handful got any meaningful improvements and that billions more had to be spent in a supplemental by Gov. Corzine to make sure that projects that were started were completed.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:51:09am |
re: #335 lawhawk
Exactly. Facile analysis gets nowhere. Only detailed, competent analysis of spending-- and taxation-- is going to solve problems. There is no broad-based idea that'll work. Like almost anything worth doing, it'll take a lot of hard work, a lot of intelligence, and a lack of simplistic tax-and-spending-bashing, and a lack of if-we-spend-enough-money-the-problem-has-got-to-get-fixed-ing.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:52:32am |
re: #334 Obdicut
One of the long term strategies to bring about reconciliation among sectarian groups was to take guys who had formerly been members of militias and insurgents was to give them jobs in security positions after they had been screened. The theory was to coopt the insurgents by giving them jobs and putting them to work so as to keep them from engaging in acts of terrorism.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:55:11am |
Teabagger freshman congressman gets PWNED in town hall on health care repeal:
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darthstar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 7:56:03am |
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darthstar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:02:02am |
Made a crab & jack cheese souffle last night. Half way through, realized I'd run out of white flour (for the bechamel) and only had whole wheat (much heavier). Said, "Fuck it" and made it anyway. Turned out quite well, I must say. Big, fluffy, and actually contained a bit of fiber. Who knew souffles were so forgiving?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:03:05am |
re: #341 darthstar
Made a crab & jack cheese souffle last night. Half way through, realized I'd run out of white flour (for the bechamel) and only had whole wheat (much heavier). Said, "Fuck it" and made it anyway. Turned out quite well, I must say. Big, fluffy, and actually contained a bit of fiber. Who knew souffles were so forgiving?
Is there a joke about the French in there?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:04:10am |
When the 168 members of the Republican National Committee vote to choose a new chairman Friday, they’ll be selecting more than a political tactician-in-chief.
get rid of that spineless, kiss ass chump, Steele
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]
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iossarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:05:45am |
re: #341 darthstar
I got some whole wheat pastry flour by mistake last week instead of all-purpose. Presto! Awesome chocolate chip cookies.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:06:22am |
(Tucson, AZ) -- Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords continues along the road to recovery with a what could be a major milestone today.
Doctors confirmed yesterday that the critically injured congresswoman can move both legs, both arms and open both eyes.
This, less than a week after she was shot in the back of the head at point blank range.
Another big test is expected today when Giffords will likely be moved from her hospital bed to a sitting position in a chair.
After that, the next big hurdle will be to remove her breathing tube.
[Link: mystateline.com...]
whooo hooo!
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darthstar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:09:11am |
Poor Sarah. No tweets since Wednesday...I guess her "enduring strength" isn't so durable. Wonder how long she'll stay curled up on her couch licking her self-inflicted wounds and eating Oreos before she jumps back into the spotlight pretending nothing ever happened. I'm sure her handlers are probably encouraging her to put down the bottle of sherry, get out of her well-stained snuggie, and go do a couple of book signings.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:09:52am |
I need a good lay-but-intelligent book about Living Trusts. I got one from Amazon that was highly rated, but found it uninformative.
Any ideas?
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darthstar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:11:58am |
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:12:50am |
re: #341 darthstar
Made a crab & jack cheese souffle last night. Half way through, realized I'd run out of white flour (for the bechamel) and only had whole wheat (much heavier). Said, "Fuck it" and made it anyway. Turned out quite well, I must say. Big, fluffy, and actually contained a bit of fiber. Who knew souffles were so forgiving?
I use King Arthur "Whole Wheat White Flour" since regular whole wheat makes Zedushka gag. Now I can feed him whole wheat and he doesn't even know.
I haven't tried this in challah.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:13:33am |
re: #348 ggt
NOLO Press has pretty good information about living trusts. Your library might have a copy.
NY AG office living trust info.
Texas has a similar document, and each state has some peculiarities when it comes to dealing with the trusts.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:14:34am |
I've tried all kinds of flour in making pasta. Semolina works best, but I can't seem to find any that doesn't end-up gritty. If I mix at least 1/3 with regular all-purpose flour, I can use just about any flour and it works well. Well, soy-flour, not so good, bad taste.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:14:56am |
re: #351 lawhawk
NOLO Press has pretty good information about living trusts. Your library might have a copy.
NY AG office living trust info.
Texas has a similar document, and each state has some peculiarities when it comes to dealing with the trusts.
Thank You
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:15:39am |
re: #351 lawhawk
NOLO Press has pretty good information about living trusts. Your library might have a copy.
NY AG office living trust info.
Texas has a similar document, and each state has some peculiarities when it comes to dealing with the trusts.
NY AG link didn't work.
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:15:40am |
re: #352 ggt
I've tried all kinds of flour in making pasta. Semolina works best, but I can't seem to find any that doesn't end-up gritty. If I mix at least 1/3 with regular all-purpose flour, I can use just about any flour and it works well. Well, soy-flour, not so good, bad taste.
Have you ever tried quinoa or amaranth flours?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:17:54am |
re: #355 jadespring
Have you ever tried quinoa or amaranth flours?
quinoa, but not amaranth. Adds a nice nutty flavor.
Had to mix all-purpose in with it.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:18:37am |
re: #354 ggt
Yeah, sorry about that - the AG site is going through a redesign, so stuff isn't where it had been (new AG in charge and all that).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:19:39am |
re: #357 lawhawk
Yeah, sorry about that - the AG site is going through a redesign, so stuff isn't where it had been (new AG in charge and all that).
No prob!
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jaunte Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:19:47am |
re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist
Charles' apparent superpower is to be able to make various sorts of wingnuts melt down and resent him for it for ages and ages.
This is not the superpower I personally would have chosen, but you take what you get.
I had to log in just to upding that.
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:20:07am |
re: #356 ggt
quinoa, but not amaranth. Adds a nice nutty flavor.
Had to mix all-purpose in with it.
Cool. I would expect it would have to be a mix since there is no gluten in it.
I'm trying out growing quinoa this year and am planning to make some flour with it if it works.
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S'latch Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:31:54am |
Whoever edited the words out of Sarah Palin's speech has performed for her a great favor.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:33:18am |
re: #362 Lawrence Schmerel
Whoever edited the words out of Sarah Palin's speech has performed for her a great favor.
she needs to be edited out of the news altogether...
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:36:15am |
FORT QUITMAN, Texas -- At least one Mexican gunman fired a high-powered rifle across the border at four U.S. road workers Thursday in an isolated ghost town east of Fort Hancock, Hudspeth County sheriff's officials said.
it's called probing fire....try to determine if the workers will fire back (not likely)
but it's just another brick in the wall
[Link: www.elpasotimes.com...]
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justaminute Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:39:44am |
I really got a laugh when I saw a blog post on Palins inability to hold a press conference. It was titled: Sarah bin Palin, come out of your cave!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:42:52am |
Loose-money policies in the United States have combined with robust growth in China and other emerging nations in recent months to set off a price spiral in food, energy and other basic goods needed to run the economy.
The trend threatens to pick up speed and become an obstacle for the global economy this year as growth in the United States accelerates to as high as 4 percent and contributes to burgeoning demand for basic goods obtained in global markets.
wow, that's quite a leap....I wonder how that figure is determined?
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:43:45am |
re: #365 justaminute
I really got a laugh when I saw a blog post on Palins inability to hold a press conference. It was titled: Sarah bin Palin, come out of your cave!
The righties are complaining because it compares her to Osama bin L. ha! tough shit.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:46:19am |
re: #365 justaminute
Personally, I'm in favor of Palin giving as few press conferences as possible.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:49:57am |
Rep. Giffords condition continues improving and doctors may remove the breathing tube today. That's great news and it looks like she's making remarkable progress.
Elsewhere in that hospital, however, it looks like some staffers broke the law by improperly accessing medical records of patients involved in the attempted assassination of Rep. Giffords. Three people were fired by the hospital.
It was not immediately clear whose records were accessed or for what purpose, but the hospital told the Star it is not aware of any records being released to the public."The hospital has terminated three clinical support staff members this week for inappropriately accessing confidential electronic medical records, in accordance with UMC's zero-tolerance policy on patient privacy violations," UMC officials said in a statement issued Wednesday.
The hospital said it had notified the patients' families of the breach.
Someone may have been looking to make a buck or two by leaking that info to the tabloids or news outlets, or maybe someone's curiosity got the better of them. The dismissals underscore the importance of maintaining patient confidentiality.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:50:02am |
San Joaquin Valley....12% US agriculture, 40% unemployment due to water diversion to save the minnows...monster floods in Australia will probably damage their wheat crop, and fires in Russia last year...and what about inflation?...is there any wonder that food prices will soar?...will oil go back up to $100 a barrel?
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garhighway Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:51:10am |
re: #261 albusteve
here was my point back a few weeks ago...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
this treaty is only as good as the paper it's written on...the GOP was trying to get some concessions from the Russians to try and prevent this very thing from happening...but they were merely fucking with BO and endangering the US, right?...such partisan bullshit
The article says, in part:
RIGHT TO WITHDRAW
The Duma's warnings of a possible withdrawal are largely a matter of emphasis, because the treaty itself includes broad language allowing either side to pull out if it decides its "supreme interests" are threatened.
Russia stressed its right to withdraw because of concerns over the U.S. anti-missile shield in a statement it adopted when Presidents Dmitry Medvedev and Barack Obama signed the treaty last April.
"The Russians are using their law on ratification to reflect their concerns, and it really is an answer to some of the language in the U.S. Senate ratification resolution," said Steven Pifer, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
The U.S. Senate stressed that a clause in the pact's preamble acknowledging an "interrelationship" between strategic offensive and defensive arms placed no legal constraint on U.S. missile defense plans.
The Duma ratification law says the points in the preamble are "indisputable" and must not be ignored.
"The most important thing is, the treaty is being ratified without a requirement for amendment," Pifer said.
I'm not sure I see the problem.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:51:38am |
re: #368 Obdicut
Personally, I'm in favor of Palin giving as few press conferences as possible.
she needs to fall into a black hole....she is toxic and not just to the right, we all suffer from her stupidity and vanity
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:52:57am |
re: #370 albusteve
If the economy grows anywhere like 4%, you can expect energy prices to rise as demand picks up - and it's the energy prices that will likely keep the economic growth tempered. Energy prices may also explain why the recovery since the end of the recession hasn't been what it had been in prior economic cycles since the prices have been higher than they were relative to other economic cycles and that the increased economic activity pushes those prices higher still limiting economic growth.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:56:39am |
re: #370 albusteve
The construction/housing collapse has hit SJ a lot harder, actually.
[Link: forecast.pacific.edu...]
Water diversion due to environmental regulations increased unemployment by .1%.
Oh, and unemployment isn't at 40% across the SJ valley-- it's at 15.4%. Areas in the valley approach 40%, but it's nowhere near 40% overall.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:58:04am |
DOHA, Qatar—Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, adopting a tone reminiscent of the Bush administration, blasted Arab governments for stalled political change, warning that extremists were exploiting a lack of democracy to promote radical agendas across the Middle East.
Hilary flexing her muscles...except it means little to the people she's speaking to...the west is spending untold billions on security, while oil inches toward $100 again...but it has to be said I guess
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 8:58:45am |
re: #370 albusteve
San Joaquin Valley...12% US agriculture, 40% unemployment due to water diversion to save the minnows...monster floods in Australia will probably damage their wheat crop, and fires in Russia last year...and what about inflation?...is there any wonder that food prices will soar?...will oil go back up to $100 a barrel?
Russia's wheat yields last year due to extreme heat was dropped about 40%. 100 million tons to 60 million tons. Moscows temps were 14 degrees above the normal means.
Just been reading an article about it.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:00:50am |
re: #376 Obdicut
The construction/housing collapse has hit SJ a lot harder, actually.
[Link: forecast.pacific.edu...]
Water diversion due to environmental regulations increased unemployment by .1%.
Oh, and unemployment isn't at 40% across the SJ valley-- it's at 15.4%. Areas in the valley approach 40%, but it's nowhere near 40% overall.
I messed up that part...but just looking at the mess overall, and I suppose there is little to be done about it, worldwide
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:01:32am |
re: #378 jadespring
Forgot the rest of the chain.. The drop led to an export ban which pushed world wheat prices up 60% in two months.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:02:32am |
re: #380 jadespring
And yet fucking morons start joking about 'what global warming' as soon as winter sets in. It's an unreal level of stupidity.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:03:25am |
re: #374 lawhawk
If the economy grows anywhere like 4%, you can expect energy prices to rise as demand picks up - and it's the energy prices that will likely keep the economic growth tempered. Energy prices may also explain why the recovery since the end of the recession hasn't been what it had been in prior economic cycles since the prices have been higher than they were relative to other economic cycles and that the increased economic activity pushes those prices higher still limiting economic growth.
seems to me I read where OPEC wants oil at $100 as a new point of reference for even further hikes...but it's tricky, like you say...it depends on growth and all commodities in some sort of harmony....it's over my head
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:07:05am |
re: #381 Obdicut
And yet fucking morons start joking about 'what global warming' as soon as winter sets in. It's an unreal level of stupidity.
a national security issue....it's the only way now, but the EPA may not be the best way to slow down emissions because of the political nature....there must be some free market solution, green must be a money maker somehow....I have no clue how to balance the role of the feds with that of the market...subsidizing ethanol is not an answer tho
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:10:40am |
re: #381 Obdicut
And yet fucking morons start joking about 'what global warming' as soon as winter sets in. It's an unreal level of stupidity.
It is really.
Here's the sciency type numbers. Crop scientists estimate that for each season temp rise of 1 degree C (1.8 F) above the seasonal norm drops wheat yields by 10 %. Transpose that to the US, if the heat wave that had happened there was centered in Chicago US production would see a similar drop of 40 to even 50%.
I know LVQ posted a lot before about the potential for crop losses. What happened in Russia last year and the consequences of such a thing occuring are a real world example of what 'reduced yields' mean beyond paper theory.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:10:52am |
what's next?...bombs from coffee mugs?
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:19:08am |
My thoughts are with Gus this morning. I hope his visit to the doctor goes well.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:20:12am |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
Let's hope it's one of those times modern medicine provides quick and effective relief. I'm glad he sought care.
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SpaceJesus Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:21:14am |
wow, i just woke up to the shock this morning that my zodiac has changed from so what? to, who gives a shit?
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:21:44am |
re: #383 albusteve
a national security issue...it's the only way now, but the EPA may not be the best way to slow down emissions because of the political nature...there must be some free market solution, green must be a money maker somehow...I have no clue how to balance the role of the feds with that of the market...subsidizing ethanol is not an answer tho
Free market won't work because right now the system is set up based on the cheapness of fossil fuels, the whole AG system depends on it. Agriculture and the food system being one of the biggest fossil fuel user percentage wise. It's caught in this horrible vicious cycle where the incentives to fix the problem end up destroying the very system (as it stands now) and there's two many market interests that depend on the system. It's unlikely to happen in any meaningful way.
The overall system has to change. It will change whether we want it to or not though but it sure isn't going to be pretty. Lost of retroactive scrambling and fumbling.
I also think that too many people think that there is more of separation (at least in the case of the ag. ) between Feds and the "Market" then there really is. They're intertwined. Neither has the 'incentives' to do what really has to be done. It's a massive problem.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:23:20am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:23:27am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:24:38am |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:25:12am |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:27:49am |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:28:03am |
Ga8dl9i1a9 - (Logged in)
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How does one even remember that??
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abbyadams Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:28:15am |
re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks for this. I was having a bit of an off day, and the lip gloss remark made me LOL.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:28:27am |
re: #394 reine.de.tout
In the thread last night, he revealed that he has a host of medical problems, from an existing hernia to a cough to heart flutteriness. He's going in to get checked out.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:28:39am |
re: #374 lawhawk
The economy went down as the gas went up
The economy went down as the gas went up
The economy went down as the gas went up
And Bush laughed all the way to the bank.
/
The economy went to shit when gas hit four bucks a gallon last time.
At least, mine did.
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Kronocide Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:28:42am |
re: #388 SpaceJesus
wow, i just woke up to the shock this morning that my zodiac has changed from so what? to, who gives a shit?
If I find out I'm not actually a taurus but an aries I'm going to just lose it.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:29:45am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:30:06am |
Bad news. Clothes washer on the fritz.
Good news. Moved the washer, found three bucks.
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Kragar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:30:24am |
re: #399 BigPapa
If I find out I'm not actually a taurus but an aries I'm going to just lose it.
I went from Virgo to Leo. Whats up with that shit? My whole life is a lie.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:31:01am |
re: #400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Seriously?
Oh sorry, I was thinking of my other comment...
No, never heard of the song. I do love Kristofferson, but not what you'd call a big fan.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:31:24am |
re: #399 BigPapa
If I find out I'm not actually a taurus but an aries I'm going to just lose it.
Well - I just found out I'm Aquarius, not Pisces.
I did lose it.
Then decided I would just stick to my guns and be Pisces.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:31:28am |
FYI:
According to the Minnesota Planetarium Society, here is where the real signs of the Zodiac should fall. Get ready for your world to change forever.
Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces: March 11-April 18.
Aries: April 18-May 13.
Taurus: May 13-June 21.
Gemini: June 21-July 20.
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17. (Yep, this one is new — read all about the Ophiuchus way of life here)
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.
Read more: [Link: newsfeed.time.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:31:29am |
re: #403 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No. Now it just means that you have a great personality and now? Chicks dig you.
I'm a Leo.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:31:46am |
re: #403 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I went from Virgo to Leo. Whats up with that shit? My whole life is a lie.
Damn.
Now you sound like my daughter- that's what she's complaining about.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:32:22am |
re: #406 Stanley Sea
FYI:
According to the Minnesota Planetarium Society, here is where the real signs of the Zodiac should fall. Get ready for your world to change forever.
Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces: March 11-April 18.
Aries: April 18-May 13.
Taurus: May 13-June 21.
Gemini: June 21-July 20.
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17. (Yep, this one is new — read all about the Ophiuchus way of life here)
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.Read more: [Link: newsfeed.time.com...]
And Pluto is no longer a planet.
LIARS ALL OF THEM.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:33:00am |
re: #397 Obdicut
In the thread last night, he revealed that he has a host of medical problems, from an existing hernia to a cough to heart flutteriness. He's going in to get checked out.
Good.
I've had heart flutteriness for 30 years. If it's not serious heart problems, it can be controlled, but he does need to get checked out for that, and the other stuff as well.
| 411 |
garhighway Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:33:03am |
re: #366 albusteve
Loose-money policies in the United States have combined with robust growth in China and other emerging nations in recent months to set off a price spiral in food, energy and other basic goods needed to run the economy.
The trend threatens to pick up speed and become an obstacle for the global economy this year as growth in the United States accelerates to as high as 4 percent and contributes to burgeoning demand for basic goods obtained in global markets.
wow, that's quite a leap...I wonder how that figure is determined?
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Most forecasts I've seen talk about 3% - 4% GDP growth, so to say "as strong as" 4% is on the bare edge of accurate.
I like how they talk about a trend that hasn't surfaced at all "accelerating". If the CPI goes from 0% to 1%, is it "accelerating"?
| 412 |
What, me worry? Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:33:14am |
Lunch bell is ringing. Ciao my scaly friends.
| 413 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:33:16am |
re: #409 marjoriemoon
And Pluto is no longer a planet.
LIARS ALL OF THEM.
I've covered my ears & eyes. I'm not giving up my hard fought Scorpio personality.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:33:20am |
re: #404 marjoriemoon
Frankly, it's eerie how much he sounds like John Prine.
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:33:35am |
Well I went from Cancer/Gemini to Gemini/Taurus. I think I can deal.
| 416 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:34:22am |
re: #415 jadespring
Well, Cancer sucks. Glad you got it out of your life.
| 418 |
Kronocide Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:37:15am |
re: #405 reine.de.tout
Then decided I would just stick to my guns and be Pisces.
Yeah, screw those fools. I've learned to exemplify taurian traits, cannot just change it up now. I will continue to live the lie!
| 419 |
webevintage Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:38:20am |
it's like you can see the mice that move the wheel in her head spelling out ohshitohshitohshitohshit in real time.
| 420 |
prairiefire Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:38:42am |
re: #406 Stanley Sea
Ha! I'm still a Virgo. I'm a super duper uber Virgo./
| 422 |
Kronocide Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:39:04am |
| 423 |
garhighway Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:41:02am |
Greetings from 39000 feet over Iowa.
Here's today's Krugman, which is arguably relevant to the topic of the thread.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:43:33am |
re: #422 BigPapa
"If my zodiac symbol has been changed to a Libra, what am I supposed to do with my Scorpio tattoo?!?!," read one tweet Thursday.
LOL! I thought astrology was a science like zoology and phsychology?
/
Ha ha. :)
| 425 |
jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:45:40am |
I remember at one job we'd get the paper with the horoscopes in it. Someone would read them out loud to people. When it was my turn I'd ask, "so what are you?' and then pick another sign to actually read. No matter what, they always seemed to fit. Funny dat. :)
| 426 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:48:16am |
re: #424 jadespring
Well if you want a change that could really bake your noodle, the FAA requires an ongoing review of airport runway designations to reflect magnetic north shifting 40 miles every year.
The primary runway at the airport is designated 18R/36L, which means the runway is aligned along 180 degrees from north (that is, due south) when approached from the north and 360 degrees from north when approached from the south. Now the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has requested the designation be changed to 19R/1L to account for the movement of the magnetic north pole. Similar changes are also taking place at the Peter O. Knight airport in Tampa. Later in the month Tampa International Airport’s east parallel and east-west runways will also be closed to allow their signage to be changed. Over 100 sign panels and 40 signs will need to be changed, along with painted signs on the runways.The magnetic north pole is always slowly moving and is currently heading towards Russia from its current position in far northern Canada. The magnetic north pole moves by around 64 km (40 miles) a year because of changes within the Earth’s core (unlike the true north pole which moves very slowly due to tectonic plate movements). It has moved from extremes of around 10 degrees east in the late 16th century to 25 degrees west early in the 19th century, and is now at around 3 degrees west. The north and south magnetic poles can also switch places, and this last happened about 780,000 years ago.
| 427 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:53:52am |
Call for Fox News to drop Glenn Beck
Ten thousand sign petition for rightwing talkshow host to be removed amid accusations that he has whipped up hatred in the wake of the Arizona shooting
The organisers, Jewish Funds for Justice (JFSJ), a charity that campaigns for social change, delivered a petition with 10,000 signatures.
where do I sign?...will he respond to these guys?
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
| 428 |
Reginald Perrin Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:58:05am |
re: #425 jadespring
I remember at one job we'd get the paper with the horoscopes in it. Someone would read them out loud to people. When it was my turn I'd ask, "so what are you?' and then pick another sign to actually read. No matter what, they always seemed to fit. Funny dat. :)
James Randi gave out identical horoscopes to everyone in a class of college students and then asked them to rate how accurately it applied to them.
| 429 |
jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:03:02am |
re: #426 lawhawk
Well if you want a change that could really bake your noodle, the FAA requires an ongoing review of airport runway designations to reflect magnetic north shifting 40 miles every year.
Yeah...
There's some speculation that this speeding up could be a prelude to a complete pole flip. In geological time we're overdue for that.
Now that could make things go really wonky. :)
Lots of 2012 world ending fear have a lot riding on the pole flip scenario. You can even download guides on how to survive it. :)
| 430 |
Big Steve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:03:59am |
Just a little understood astrology fact. To say you are in a certain zodiac sign means that that constellation is directly overhead of the sun at noon during the day. So to actually see your zodiac constellation, you need to look over head at night six months later.
| 431 |
jadespring Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:08:02am |
re: #429 jadespring
Yeah...
There's some speculation that this speeding up could be a prelude to a complete pole flip. In geological time we're overdue for that.
Now that could make things go really wonky. :)
Lots of 2012 world ending fear have a lot riding on the pole flip scenario. You can even download guides on how to survive it. :)
Should add which is dumb because even if the poles do flip entirely the more likely scenario is that it will not be some sort of instant flip. It's quick by geological time standards 1000-3000 years but not human. The world ending catastrophic flipping scenarios are based on a quick flip (a few years) which has been theorized about but it's not likely.
| 432 |
prairiefire Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:11:07am |
re: #427 albusteve
Call for Fox News to drop Glenn Beck
Ten thousand sign petition for rightwing talkshow host to be removed amid accusations that he has whipped up hatred in the wake of the Arizona shooting
The organisers, Jewish Funds for Justice (JFSJ), a charity that campaigns for social change, delivered a petition with 10,000 signatures.where do I sign?...will he respond to these guys?
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
I don't know. There have already been a lot of petitions against him.
| 433 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:15:08am |
Feel the good Christian love directed at me on Twitter:
@Lizardoid you are proof of God's graciousness. Remember.God to, has a boundary and when you reach it....the gates of hell will swing wide.
| 434 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:17:04am |
some cool pics of Mt Etna blowing...
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
| 435 |
Kronocide Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:17:07am |
re: #433 Charles
Feel the good Christian love directed at me on Twitter:
Jesus loves you Charles. Or go to hell!
| 436 |
Kragar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:18:50am |
re: #433 Charles
Feel the good Christian love directed at me on Twitter:
I AM FUCKING FILLED WITH CHRIST'S FUCKING LOVE, YOU BASTARD!
| 437 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:19:16am |
o ye!....the gates of hell will swing wide, thou fat assed heathen!
so that's what awaits me...whats beyond the gates?....good whiskey and easy women?
| 438 |
Kragar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:21:27am |
re: #437 albusteve
o ye!...the gates of hell will swing wide, thou fat assed heathen!
so that's what awaits me...whats beyond the gates?...good whiskey and easy women?
The lurkers at the threshold...
| 439 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:21:55am |
re: #433 Charles
Feel the good Christian love directed at me on Twitter:
@Lizardoid you are proof of God's graciousness. Remember.God to, has a boundary and when you reach it...the gates of hell will swing wide.
With just a touch of illiteracy, for the lolcat effect.
Got to haz a bowndaree...
| 440 |
CuriousLurker Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:25:08am |
Looks like the Tunisian coup is actually going down now:
Tunisian President Leaves Country Amid Unrest
| 441 |
Randy W. Weeks Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:26:20am |
Man, I wish Charles would put up a new post so that freaking face would get off my screen!!! ;)
| 442 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:27:24am |
re: #438 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The lurkers at the threshold...
[Video]
respect, obey?...what if I don't?
that's my divine question
| 444 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:28:51am |
re: #440 CuriousLurker
Looks like the Tunisian coup is actually going down now:
Tunisian President Leaves Country Amid Unrest
my yurt is UNDERWATER!
| 445 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:29:46am |
| 446 |
Kragar Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:30:35am |
| 447 |
MinisterO Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:32:43am |
re: #370 albusteve
San Joaquin Valley...12% US agriculture, 40% unemployment due to water diversion to save the minnows...monster floods in Australia will probably damage their wheat crop, and fires in Russia last year...and what about inflation?...is there any wonder that food prices will soar?...will oil go back up to $100 a barrel?
The Central Valley's problems are mostly due to drought, though it is fashionable in certain circles to blame the rules protecting the delta smelt.
A billion or so people live on less than $1 per day and get most of their calories from rice. Rice prices have doubled in the last 5 years, reaching an all-time high in early 2008, yet production is flat. Apparently supply is inelastic and demand is increasing -> price will continue upward and eventually a lot of people will starve.
It always comes back to the oil, modern agriculture being the process of converting fossil fuel calories to human-consumable calories.
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CuriousLurker Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:37:48am |
re: #444 albusteve
my yurt is UNDERWATER!
Sorry, but I'm not laughing at this.
An unstable Tunisia sandwiched between Algeria with its radical Islamist problem and Libya with its gunao crazy dictator is not good news. I hope I'm wrong.
| 449 |
Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Jan 14, 2011 10:52:12am |
Wow interesting video cut, last time I heard noises like that was when my last girlfriend was...err...uhh...TMI I guess?
Creepy seeing Palin and being forced to think of intimacy at the same time, I certainly hope it never happens again. ;)
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ClaudeMonet Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:07:04pm |
re: #338 darthstar
Renacci rode the anti-incumbent wave into office, upsetting a long-time Congressman. The district is a mixture of old-style blue-collar (Canton) and the rural areas to the west IIRC. Unless he really gets his sh** together, he could easily be swept right back out in 2012.
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