Overnight Video: Two Fifty Three Kelvin
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Some icy imagery for an overnight thread, in a short film titled “Two Fifty Three Kelvin,”
by Bart van der Gaag.
260 comments
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:48:16pm |
I, on the other hand, am perfectly comfortable at about 293 Kelvin.
Interesting how much difference that one digit makes.
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jaunte Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:52:36pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The Gaag is a canal in Zuid-Holland, between Schipluiden and Den Hoorn.
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jaunte Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:53:38pm |
There's something especially cold looking about scenes from the Netherlands in winter. [Link: www.flickr.com...]
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:53:58pm |
Evening all!
How cold is where you are?
How is everyone?
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:54:34pm |
The red sky is pretty amazing on the blue snow.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:54:56pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:57:24pm |
Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
The Dimona complex in the Negev desert is famous as the heavily guarded heart of Israel’s never-acknowledged nuclear arms program, where neat rows of factories make atomic fuel for the arsenal.
Over the past two years, according to intelligence and military experts familiar with its operations, Dimona has taken on a new, equally secret role — as a critical testing ground in a joint American and Israeli effort to undermine Iran’s efforts to make a bomb of its own.
Behind Dimona’s barbed wire, the experts say, Israel has spun nuclear centrifuges virtually identical to Iran’s at Natanz, where Iranian scientists are struggling to enrich uranium. They say Dimona tested the effectiveness of the Stuxnet computer worm, a destructive program that appears to have wiped out roughly a fifth of Iran’s nuclear centrifuges and helped delay, though not destroy, Tehran’s ability to make its first nuclear arms.
“To check out the worm, you have to know the machines,” said an American expert on nuclear intelligence. “The reason the worm has been effective is that the Israelis tried it out.”
Outstanding!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:57:28pm |
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Randall Gross Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:59:37pm |
With all the blue and cool it looks closer to the 9600k "cool" monitor scale setting that basically mimicked ektachrome where the normal NTSC and Sony 6500 "warm" setting mimicked Kodachrome
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 8:59:54pm |
re: #12 NJDhockeyfan
Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
Outstanding!
more effective than vultures?
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Randall Gross Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:02:23pm |
I managed to take apart my pedometer, dry it out, and reassemble it after I dropped it in the sink. I'm now the proud owner of an extra really tiny phillips head screw, but the pedometer works fine.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:04:01pm |
Frank says:Anyone who is disturbed by the idea of newts in a nightclub is potentially dangerous.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:05:01pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:11:11pm |
re: #14 ggt
No, No, I read it wrong, the unit is named after a River and the Lordship came after the unit, so His Lordship chose the name of the River.
He also had some interesting dialogs about Darwin and estimated the age of the Earth as some 20-40 million years old. He considered himself a "fundamentalist" and favored creationism.
My, how concepts can change in 100 years.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:11:41pm |
‘Khamenei ordered Hariri killing, Hizbullah takeover'
A UN tribunal investigating the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri is expected to accuse Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei of ordering the killing, while Lebanon’s caretaker prime minister said that dialogue is the only way out of the country’s political crisis after a Hizbullah-led coalition toppled his Western-backed government.
According to the US-based Newsmax website, the investigative body will lay out evidence showing that the 2005 murder was committed by Iran’s Quds force, along with Hizbullah.
Prepare for mass amounts of exploding heads in Lebanon.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:14:32pm |
re: #21 NJDhockeyfan
‘Khamenei ordered Hariri killing, Hizbullah takeover'
Prepare for mass amounts of exploding heads in Lebanon.
Has the head of a country ever been accused of such a heinous crime by the UN before?
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bratwurst Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:15:18pm |
re: #21 NJDhockeyfan
According to the US-based Newsmax website
Translation: take this with a SHAKER of salt.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:16:30pm |
re: #22 ggt
Has the head of a country ever been accused of such a heinous crime by the UN before?
I don't remember one. This would be a great leap by the UN if this story checks out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and the popcorn ready.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:17:36pm |
re: #24 NJDhockeyfan
I don't remember one. This would be a great leap by the UN if this story checks out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and the popcorn ready.
LOL
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:19:13pm |
re: #23 bratwurst
Translation: take this with a SHAKER of salt.
The fact that The Jerusalem Post is reporting on it gives it some credibility IMO. We'll see if the UN has the guts to actually make these accusations official.
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prairiefire Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:20:30pm |
re: #17 Thanos
I managed to take apart my pedometer, dry it out, and reassemble it after I dropped it in the sink. I'm now the proud owner of an extra really tiny phillips head screw, but the pedometer works fine.
Good job on the exercise! My dad had a bypass 2 years ago and is a lot stronger now after sticking with the exercise. He is older at 74.
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elizajane Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:21:04pm |
re: #4 jaunte
The Gaag is a canal in Zuid-Holland, between Schipluiden and Den Hoorn.
Yeah, but the guy's website says he's in Sweden, which makes sense--I kept thinking that all those pine trees could not be in Holland. Beautiful film!
On cold weather in Holland--yes, when it's cold, it's REALLY cold. I moved to Amsterdam in December during one of those hard-freeze periods. Despite the warnings of my friends, I had rented a picturesque 17th-century apartment with no central heating. The canal outside my window froze solid and skaters frolicked on it while I huddled close to the little bottle-gas heater. My front was broiling while my back froze.
One day there was a slight thaw and some heavy mist (what they call "motregen") and then overnight another hard freeze. In the morning, all the streets were thickly encased in ice. It was literally impossible to take one single step without falling over. You had to pull yourself along on the front railings of houses, or propel from one parked car to the next. Basically life came to a complete standstill. I remained glued to my little stove...
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:22:10pm |
re: #21 NJDhockeyfan
‘Khamenei ordered Hariri killing, Hizbullah takeover'
Prepare for mass amounts of exploding heads in Lebanon.
I hate to say it, but the Jerusalem Post used NewsMax as a primary source, so it's immediately suspect...
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:23:00pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:23:30pm |
re: #30 talon_262
More like a truckload...
24 hour rule applies, but still it is a compelling article.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:23:56pm |
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:25:40pm |
re: #31 ggt
24 hour rule applies, but still it is a compelling article.
If it's indeed true, it's absolute dynamite, but NewsMax isn't exactly known for a long-term record of unbiased, truthful reporting of facts...
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:25:59pm |
re: #29 talon_262
I hate to say it, but the Jerusalem Post used NewsMax as a primary source, so it's immediately suspect...
With all that said, it wouldn't be so far out if it were, indeed, true.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:28:37pm |
re: #34 marjoriemoon
With all that said, it wouldn't be so far out if it were, indeed, true.
The sad part is that is that what would be the shocker is not that the Ayatollah was involved, but that the UN was actually making a stand.
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bratwurst Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:30:23pm |
re: #26 NJDhockeyfan
The fact that The Jerusalem Post is reporting on it gives it some credibility IMO.
The fact that The Jerusalem Post is using something from Newsmax as a primary source for a story like this is another nail in the coffin of journalism IMO.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:31:38pm |
re: #35 ggt
The sad part is that is that what would be the shocker is not that the Ayatollah was involved, but that the UN was actually making a stand.
Indeed! The UN, though, is pretty active in Lebanon so I can see where they wouldn't like the "interference."
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:32:10pm |
re: #36 bratwurst
The fact that The Jerusalem Post is using something from Newsmax as a primary source for a story like this is another nail in the coffin of journalism IMO.
Maybe it is the only source they could name?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:34:06pm |
Speculation is fun, but 24 hour rule is important to remember, regardless of any journalistic source.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:41:20pm |
re: #36 bratwurst
The fact that The Jerusalem Post is using something from Newsmax as a primary source for a story like this is another nail in the coffin of journalism IMO.
Oh quit your fucking whining. This story is being reported by lots of news websites including AFP, Haaretz, Arab News, and even Al Jazeera.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:43:19pm |
Well, you'll find out on Monday no? Anyway the article in question was written by Ken Timmerman:
Israel Cautiously Monitors Lebanese Crisis
He also wrote:
Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit
And here's his personal website:
[Link: www.kentimmerman.com...]
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Kragar Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:44:09pm |
Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
Behind Dimona’s barbed wire, the experts say, Israel has spun nuclear centrifuges virtually identical to Iran’s at Natanz, where Iranian scientists are struggling to enrich uranium. They say Dimona tested the effectiveness of the Stuxnet computer worm, a destructive program that appears to have wiped out roughly a fifth of Iran’s nuclear centrifuges and helped delay, though not destroy, Tehran’s ability to make its first nuclear arms.
“To check out the worm, you have to know the machines,” said an American expert on nuclear intelligence. “The reason the worm has been effective is that the Israelis tried it out.”
Though American and Israeli officials refuse to talk publicly about what goes on at Dimona, the operations there, as well as related efforts in the United States, are among the newest and strongest clues suggesting that the virus was designed as an American-Israeli project to sabotage the Iranian program.
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bratwurst Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:51:22pm |
re: #41 NJDhockeyfan
re: #41 NJDhockeyfan
Oh quit your fucking whining. This story is being reported by lots of news websites including AFP, Haaretz, Arab News, and even Al Jazeera.
No whining going on here, just showing a healthy skepticism for a source that has proven to be correct only slightly more often than a broken clock.
I would also suggest that your reading comprehension is lacking as the Haaretz story is the only one of the four you linked that mentions the Newsmax report.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:54:08pm |
re: #45 bratwurst
re: #41 NJDhockeyfan
No whining going on here, just showing a healthy skepticism for a source that has proven to be correct only slightly more often than a broken clock.
I would also suggest that your reading comprehension is lacking as the Haaretz story is the only one of the four you linked that mentions the Newsmax report.
Haaretz is also a left-leaning news website. Have they suddenly lost their mind?
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prairiefire Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:54:39pm |
re: #42 Gus 802
Well, you'll find out on Monday no? Anyway the article in question was written by Ken Timmerman:
Israel Cautiously Monitors Lebanese Crisis
He also wrote:
Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit
And here's his personal website:
[Link: www.kentimmerman.com...]
A birther!
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:55:17pm |
re: #46 NJDhockeyfan
Haaretz is also a left-leaning news website. Have they suddenly lost their mind?
Doesn't matter.
Newsmax is almost always full of shit.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:55:32pm |
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:57:37pm |
re: #49 Gus 802
Pretty much. He was like one of the first. Here's another one:
Then there was this:
Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age
But al-Mansour’s sponsorship of Obama as a prospective Harvard law student is important for another reason beyond his Islamic and anti-American rhetoric and early Black Panther ties.
At the time Percy Sutton, a former lawyer for Malcolm X and a former business partner of al-Mansour, says he was raising money for Obama’s graduate school education, al-Mansour was representing top members of the Saudi Royal family seeking to do business and exert influence in the United States.
In 1989, for example — just one year after Obama entered Harvard Law School — The Los Angeles Times revealed that al-Mansour had been advising Saudi billionaires Abdul Aziz and Khalid al-Ibrahim in their secret effort to acquire a major stake in prime oceanfront property in Marina del Rey, Calif., through “an elaborate network of corporate shells in California, the Caribbean and Europe.”
A lot of old school Obama conspiracy theories.
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bratwurst Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:57:50pm |
re: #46 NJDhockeyfan
Haaretz is also a left-leaning news website. Have they suddenly lost their mind?
The fact that both Fox News AND NPR reported that Congresswoman Giffords had died didn't make the report correct. The fact that both Jerusalem Post AND Haaretz are both lending credibility to something from Newsmax doesn't make that correct either.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:59:13pm |
re: #51 bratwurst
The fact that both Fox News AND NPR reported that Congresswoman Giffords had died didn't make the report correct. The fact that both Jerusalem Post AND Haaretz are both lending credibility to something from Newsmax doesn't make that correct either.
I guess we will find out on Monday, won't we?
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 9:59:14pm |
re: #51 bratwurst
But neither circumstance called for an outright dismissal either.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:00:12pm |
re: #55 Rightwingconspirator
But neither circumstance called for an outright dismissal either.
Sorry, but anything from Newsmax gets an immediate dismissal from me.
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bratwurst Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:01:03pm |
re: #55 Rightwingconspirator
But neither circumstance called for an outright dismissal either.
I refer you to my #23.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:01:04pm |
re: #54 NJDhockeyfan
I guess we will find out on Monday, won't we?
Yeah. Just wait. I mean, I'm willing to concede that he could be right on this matter even if he does seem like a birther Obama-conspiracy weirdo.
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:01:37pm |
re: #56 Varek Raith
When it's on multiple sources?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:02:26pm |
Ok, the accusation of an accusation is out there.
How will the Ayatollah or his valet respond?
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:02:46pm |
re: #59 Rightwingconspirator
When it's on multiple sources?
As in if multiple sources use Newsmax as a source?
Yes.
If they independently verify?
No.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:03:37pm |
re: #60 ggt
Ok, the accusation of an accusation is out there.
How will the Ayatollah or his valet respond?
They'll deny everything and proceed to ignore the UN. SNAFU
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:04:46pm |
re: #60 ggt
Ok, the accusation of an accusation is out there.
How will the Ayatollah or his valet respond?
They will blame the Zionists like they always do.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:05:00pm |
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:05:05pm |
re: #61 Varek Raith
Did you look at the links in NJD's #41?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:05:20pm |
re: #63 NJDhockeyfan
They will blame the Zionists like they always do.
Yes, that goes without saying.
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:06:10pm |
re: #23 bratwurst
I went to two on the links, did ctrl-F with newsmax as the word.
Nothin.
We'll see Monday.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:07:58pm |
Seems interesting that it is in the Arab press. Bet the readership is all abuzzin'?
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:08:07pm |
re: #65 Rightwingconspirator
Did you look at the links in NJD's #41?
I got no issues with those.
I'm just focusing on Newsmax and its proven ability to be full of shit.
That's all.
The story is probably true.
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justaminute Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:08:15pm |
re: #29 talon_262
I hate to say it, but the Jerusalem Post used NewsMax as a primary source, so it's immediately suspect...
I asked my Iranian American husband if he knew anything about this. He said yes, they are reporting this and the government is denying Iranian involvement of course. He said it is reported that Iranian spokesman said this is just propaganda because Iran meets next week about all the nuclear stuff. The Iranian gov. said this is a set up because the United States was not asked to be involved in the discussion. This doesn't make sense to me but this is what my husband said he read in Iranian websites.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:10:38pm |
re: #70 Varek Raith
I got no issues with those.
I'm just focusing on Newsmax and its proven ability to be full of shit.
That's all.
The story is probably true.
Just trying to stir up the humans on a Saturday Night?
:0
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:11:27pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:13:07pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:13:11pm |
re: #69 ggt
Seems interesting that it is in the Arab press. Bet the readership is all abuzzin'?
I found it more interesting that Al Jazeera is reporting on it. So is Fars News Agency and they are already whining about it. I wont post a link to them, something weird popped up when I went to their site.
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:13:15pm |
re: #54 NJDhockeyfan
I guess we will find out on Monday, won't we?
Exactly...if the info from NewsMax is correct, it'll blow this story wide open. If not, it'll be more of what we've come to expect from NewsMax (which is a rock-bottom level of honesty and integrity) and more honest, more reputable news outlets will have egg on their collective face.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:13:17pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:14:24pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:15:01pm |
I had to deal with teenagers all night who think being at work means gathering in a circle and talking.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:15:12pm |
re: #69 ggt
Seems interesting that it is in the Arab press. Bet the readership is all abuzzin'?
The Arabs have never been too fond of the Iranians. Don't you read Wikileaks?? :p (But for reals, no love lost there).
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:16:02pm |
re: #80 ggt
I had to deal with teenagers all night who think being at work means gathering in a circle and talking.
Ha ha ha! I remember those days when I was a teenager :)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:16:03pm |
re: #81 marjoriemoon
The Arabs have never been too fond of the Iranians. Don't you read Wikileaks?? :p (But for reals, no love lost there).
Ah, I forgot the whole "Persian" angle.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:16:42pm |
re: #50 Gus 802
Then there was this:
Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age
A lot of old school Obama conspiracy theories.
Because Bush had no involvement with the Saudi family!
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:17:45pm |
re: #85 marjoriemoon
Because Bush had no involvement with the Saudi family!
It's an American tradition.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:18:11pm |
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:18:32pm |
re: #70 Varek Raith
I got no issues with those.
I'm just focusing on Newsmax and its proven ability to be full of shit.
That's all.
The story is probably true.
Precisely...if what has come from NewsMax is being independently corroborated (which it appears to be), then this is absolute dynamite. I just have issues with NewsMax being a primary source for anything other than the weather...and even then, I'd have to fact-check them.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:18:36pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:19:06pm |
re: #85 marjoriemoon
Because Bush had no involvement with the Saudi family!
He did! He let them attack us on 9-11 then flew the families out of the country to prevent arrests.
//
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:19:31pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:19:40pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:20:49pm |
re: #88 talon_262
Precisely...if what has come from NewsMax is being independently corroborated (which it appears to be), then this is absolute dynamite. I just have issues with NewsMax being a primary source for anything other than the weather...and even then, I'd have to fact-check them.
The sky is blue.
-Newsmax.
*Goes out and checks*
:)
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:21:14pm |
re: #90 NJDhockeyfan
He did! He let them attack us on 9-11 then flew the families out of the country to prevent arrests.
//
I know you're joshing, but you don't think blaming Obama for a conspiracy with the Saudis is just plain ridiculous?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:23:57pm |
re: #94 marjoriemoon
I know you're joshing, but you don't think blaming Obama for a conspiracy with the Saudis is just plain ridiculous?
Sure it is. I never have agreed with insane idiots from either side.
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BryanS Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:24:12pm |
re: #76 NJDhockeyfan
I found it more interesting that Al Jazeera is reporting on it. So is Fars News Agency and they are already whining about it. I wont post a link to them, something weird popped up when I went to their site.
This result has been expected for some time...and is it any coincidence that the Lebanese government falls shortly before the anticipated release of this report? Lebanon is a cauldron right now, and Iran/Syria are stoking the flames.
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:24:15pm |
re: #93 Varek Raith
How about AFP? That kinda held my attention.
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:24:32pm |
re: #94 marjoriemoon
I know you're joshing, but you don't think blaming Obama for a conspiracy with the Saudis is just plain ridiculous?
I think that was a conspiracy theory leveled again W, not Obama...it's still crap IMO.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:25:54pm |
Speaking of idiots...
"...the United States of America is the most violent country in the history of civilization. "
~ Spike Lee on The Today Show
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:28:31pm |
re: #100 NJDhockeyfan
Spike outta stick to questionable movies. They far exceed his opinion for credibility.
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:28:34pm |
re: #100 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of idiots...
"...the United States of America is the most violent country in the history of civilization. "
~ Spike Lee on The Today Show
He should stick to making movies and sitting in his courtside seat at Knicks games, lest he open his mouth at inopportune times and come off looking like a jackass.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:29:24pm |
re: #100 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of idiots...
"...the United States of America is the most violent country in the history of civilization. "
~ Spike Lee on The Today Show
Don't think Spike has read many scholarly books on history, heh?
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:29:48pm |
re: #101 Rightwingconspirator
Spike outta stick to questionable movies. They far exceed his opinion for credibility.
I've not seen Miracle at St. Anna yet, but I heard it's pretty good. That said, I'm not a Spike Lee fan.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:30:04pm |
re: #96 NJDhockeyfan
Sure it is. I never have agreed with insane idiots from either side.
Bush and his family had a real relationship with the Saudis. One that made many Americans very unhappy. I'm not sure any of that could be called a conspiracy, as such, but it certainly wasn't some concocted BS about writing letters to Harvard about Obama, the Black Panthers and Saudi billionaires.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:31:33pm |
re: #100 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of idiots...
"...the United States of America is the most violent country in the history of civilization. "
~ Spike Lee on The Today Show
Sigh. Talk about opening ones mouth and proving ones stupidity...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:31:39pm |
re: #91 talon_262
Especially the British...
Yes, Charles plays golf and goes on hunting expeditions (or some such shit) with the Saudi Royals. Aren't too many Royals left on the planet, Charles has a hard time finding a "proper" peer group, I guess.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:31:53pm |
re: #99 talon_262
I think that was a conspiracy theory leveled again W, not Obama...it's still crap IMO.
No, Gus posted a Newsmax article about Obama and some Saudi big wig upthread.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:32:17pm |
re: #100 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of idiots...
"...the United States of America is the most violent country in the history of civilization. "
~ Spike Lee on The Today Show
I would say that Russia wins that category (Stalin). Which is not to say that we don't have our own violent history because we do. But I still don't see it as exceeding those of Russia, Japan, or Germany in modern history. WWII alone resulted in nearly 60 million deaths and the fault lies squarely with the Axis powers.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:33:36pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
I would say that Russia wins that category (Stalin). Which is not to say that we don't have our own violent history because we do. But I still don't see it as exceeding those of Russia, Japan, or Germany in modern history. WWII alone resulted in nearly 60 million deaths and the fault lies squarely with the Axis powers.
"History of Civilization" is a long, long, long time. Much of it was never written. Stupid, stupid, stupid statement.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:33:54pm |
Oh yeah?
Nothing beats the deaths caused by the The Chicxulub event.
:P
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:34:36pm |
re: #111 Varek Raith
Stupid superfluous word!
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:35:57pm |
re: #110 ggt
"History of Civilization" is a long, long, long time. Much of it was never written. Stupid, stupid, stupid statement.
America has been the most violent country for thousands of years!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:35:57pm |
re: #112 Varek Raith
Stupid superfluous word!
you just like it 'cause it has an "x" in the middle. Bet you even practiced pronouncing it . .
teehee
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:36:44pm |
re: #115 ggt
you just like it 'cause it has an "x" in the middle. Bet you even practiced pronouncing it . .
teehee
Badass name for the impact the killed the dinos, among others.
:)
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:36:59pm |
re: #108 marjoriemoon
No, Gus posted a Newsmax article about Obama and some Saudi big wig upthread.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Oops, saw that one...being from NewsMax, it's still crap.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:37:37pm |
re: #116 Varek Raith
Badass name for the impact the killed the dinos, among others.
:)
I don't know, anything with "cheeks" in the pronunciation invites comedy rather than awe.
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prairiefire Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:37:54pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
I would say that Russia wins that category (Stalin). Which is not to say that we don't have our own violent history because we do. But I still don't see it as exceeding those of Russia, Japan, or Germany in modern history. WWII alone resulted in nearly 60 million deaths and the fault lies squarely with the Axis powers.
We have not been oppressed. We have been a democratic society. Japan is a bit different because they do consider the emperor a deity.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:39:17pm |
IRS --now, there is a word (well initials) that can produce fear.
MARINES --that produces awe.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:40:53pm |
re: #118 ggt
I don't know, anything with "cheeks" in the pronunciation invites comedy rather than awe.
[Link: www.carloslabs.com...]
Choose your target on the map.
Go to "Select Weapon".
Use the "Asteroid Impact".
Hit the "Nuke It" button.
Awe.
:P
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:41:37pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
I would say that Russia wins that category (Stalin). Which is not to say that we don't have our own violent history because we do. But I still don't see it as exceeding those of Russia, Japan, or Germany in modern history. WWII alone resulted in nearly 60 million deaths and the fault lies squarely with the Axis powers.
Which make the infamous Stalin quote, "Quantity has a quality all its own" (about throwing the Soviet military against the Nazis), even more stomach-churning and soulcrushing when one thinks about how many millions died just because Stalin decided they should.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:42:16pm |
Frank says:There is no such thing as a dirty word. Nor is there a word so powerful, that it's going to send the listener to a lake of fire upon hearing it.
It would be a whole lot easier if we could 'upding' Frank.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:42:19pm |
Off to bed. I'll help you guys fight the world's problems tomorrow :)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:43:39pm |
re: #121 Varek Raith
[Link: www.carloslabs.com...]
Choose your target on the map.
Go to "Select Weapon".
Use the "Asteroid Impact".
Hit the "Nuke It" button.
Awe.
:P
from your link:
Ground ZeroHave you ever wondered what would happen if a nuclear bomb goes off in your city? With Google's Maps framework and a bit of Javascript, you can see the outcome.
And it does not look good.
Not really, figured I'd be dead.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:44:10pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:44:29pm |
re: #122 talon_262
Which make the infamous Stalin quote, "Quantity has a quality all its own" (about throwing the Soviet military against the Nazis), even more stomach-churning and soulcrushing when one thinks about how many millions died just because Stalin decided they should.
More like leading them into a frozen, abandoned city. . . .
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:45:36pm |
re: #125 ggt
from your link:
Not really, figured I'd be dead.
Where's your sense of adventure?!?
...
..
.
Oh, yeah, it was atomized.
:P
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:46:38pm |
re: #128 Varek Raith
Where's your sense of adventure?!?
...
..
.
Oh, yeah, it was atomized.
:P
My sense of adventure diminished quite abit after my joints starting hurting with every car-ride.
Now, I find my adventure in books.
What can I say.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:47:04pm |
Artists always have their opinions though. John Wayne was very opinionated but I still like to watch the knucklehead. Spike Lee makes some pretty good movies. I can't stand Sean Penn's politics (in general and with regards to Chavez) but he's a pretty good actor. There was a point when people were rejecting John Wayne, Bob Hope, and Jimmy Stewart because of their politics but I never bought into that. I feel the same way about that whether they're left or right.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:49:21pm |
Canada Outlaws Glacier Melting
OTTAWA — In a bold move to protect ice zones and glaciers throughout Canada, opposition parties in the Canadian parliament teamed up to pass a bill that bans any further glacial melting within Canadian territories.“Glacier melting had just gone too far for our comfort levels,” said Ontario MP Dennis Brison. “Too many things were getting soggy, and this C-56 Bill has staved off the self-destruction of our precious Canadian glaciers.”
The bill, which had been introduced nine months earlier by Manitoba MP Diane Byrne, gives glaciers 60 days to cease any new melting maneuvers once the bill becomes a law. The bill, backed by the NDP and the Bloc Québécois, passed 167-106 on Wednesday night. All the Conservatives present voted against it.
The law, to be enacted on March 1, guarantees “all glaciers on the Canadian National Inventory of Glaciers will cease and desist from all transformations, by heat, from solid to liquid states, including dissolving, fusing, crumpling, and softening.”
Researchers at the Yukon Institute of Glaciology will have the task of monitoring all glaciers and peri-glacial areas to ensure compliance with the new requirements. The bill specifies fines and jail terms for glaciers that contravene the law. Glaciologist Jenna Muskett said she had “long wondered why no one had such foresight earlier. The bill makes sense because the net mass balances trip up the dynamics of tidewater accumulation areas during tide-gauge wastage contributions from non-polar ice caps and ice fields, roughly 0.8%, especially during those hilarious near-concurrent surges. You know how those are. Parliament deserves a big thumbs up for its courage.”
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prairiefire Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:50:24pm |
re: #130 Gus 802
Artists always have their opinions though. John Wayne was very opinionated but I still like to watch the knucklehead. Spike Lee makes some pretty good movies. I can't stand Sean Penn's politics (in general and with regards to Chavez) but he's a pretty good actor. There was a point when people were rejecting John Wayne, Bob Hope, and Jimmy Stewart because of their politics but I never bought into that. I feel the same way about that whether they're left or right.
Win!
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:50:26pm |
re: #130 Gus 802
Why sure. We all get to withhold our dollars as we choose. I like it like that. I really like artists that manager to have reasonable opinions, especially those I disagree with. I might learn something. As to the case at hand, well I'm not impressed with ridiculous assertions like that.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:50:52pm |
re: #130 Gus 802
Artists always have their opinions though. John Wayne was very opinionated but I still like to watch the knucklehead. Spike Lee makes some pretty good movies. I can't stand Sean Penn's politics (in general and with regards to Chavez) but he's a pretty good actor. There was a point when people were rejecting John Wayne, Bob Hope, and Jimmy Stewart because of their politics but I never bought into that. I feel the same way about that whether they're left or right.
Anymore, tho, I feel like they are just parrots. They have to stay PC or they don't get the attention they seem to crave (and probably some of the income too).
The new Soma tablet is CELEBRITY GOSSIP. Too many idiots seem think what ever actor is popular must be the person to follow. AT the last election, I heard some 20-somethings talking about how uncool it was to vote Republican. Now, I just don't think that being "cool" is a reason to vote one way or the other.
It's enough to put me into hibernation.
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prairiefire Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:52:41pm |
re: #134 ggt
They think it is uncool because they are largely pro-choice and don't care if anyone is gay.
Don't worry, da youths are alright.
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:53:35pm |
re: #130 Gus 802
Artists always have their opinions though. John Wayne was very opinionated but I still like to watch the knucklehead. Spike Lee makes some pretty good movies. I can't stand Sean Penn's politics (in general and with regards to Chavez) but he's a pretty good actor. There was a point when people were rejecting John Wayne, Bob Hope, and Jimmy Stewart because of their politics but I never bought into that. I feel the same way about that whether they're left or right.
I don't begrudge celebrities their political points-of-view, but I can't stand that many of them equate their celebrity to a license to spew said points-of-view whenever and wherever they want...and expecting their adoring fans to lap it up.
Left or right, I don't care for it...if they want to be involved in politics and civics on the down low (as much as a celebrity can, anyway), more power to them. It's just when it spews out on every media outlet and in their work is where it gets on my nerves.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:53:46pm |
re: #135 prairiefire
They think it is uncool because they are largely pro-choice and don't care if anyone is gay.
Don't worry, da youths are alright.
NO issues were discussed. It was all about the hoopla --MTV awards and such. They don't know shit about the issues.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:54:17pm |
re: #133 Rightwingconspirator
Why sure. We all get to withhold our dollars as we choose. I like it like that. I really like artists that manager to have reasonable opinions, especially those I disagree with. I might learn something. As to the case at hand, well I'm not impressed with ridiculous assertions like that.
True. But I also have a theory that people will have ridiculous assertions even if they don't tell us. So I see it as most people having a capacity for making ridiculous assertions -- why even I will engage in that from time to time. It's just casual talk anyway since Spike Lee really isn't a historian so it's easily ignored.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:55:53pm |
OK, my internet keeps going out. I give up. Have a great night lizards!
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:56:01pm |
re: #136 talon_262
I don't begrudge celebrities their political points-of-view, but I can't stand that many of them equate their celebrity to a license to spew said points-of-view whenever and wherever they want...and expecting their adoring fans to lap it up.
Left or right, I don't care for it...if they want to be involved in politics and civics on the down low (as much as a celebrity can, anyway), more power to them. It's just when it spews out on every media outlet and in their work is where it gets on my nerves.
Spike Lee, historian.
//
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:56:16pm |
re: #139 NJDhockeyfan
OK, my internet keeps going out. I give up. Have a great night lizards!
Where do you think it goes?
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:57:04pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:57:43pm |
re: #142 talon_262
To a bar to get smashed?
//
for pizza, to walk the dog, to (ahem) relieve itself?
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:59:47pm |
re: #143 ggt
for pizza, to walk the dog, to (ahem) relieve itself?
Fixing the lines on the off hours.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:59:50pm |
Gotta go crash, have a great night all.
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TedStriker Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:01:13pm |
re: #144 Gus 802
Fixing the lines on the off hours.
That's happened here to me a couple of times lately...frakking Comcast.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:03:29pm |
"Dyed blonde" and "young" must be in fashion:
Miss Nebraska crowned Miss America
Teresa Scanlan of Nebraska will spend the next year as Miss America, besting 52 other pageant hopefuls at Saturday's event in Las Vegas.
The 17-year-old Gerig resident and Scottsbluff High School student played the piano during the competition, and her platform issue was tackling eating disorders. She hopes to attend law school, become a judge and eventually a politician, according to the Miss America website.
[...]
Oh noes, another lefty who has fallen under the spells of Michelle Obama!! All real Americans know that "eating disorders" is just double speak for... communism!!
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:03:44pm |
re: #138 Gus 802
Harsh words with friends or at some party is easier to set aside than statements on TV. Film makers understand a cameras broadcast impact better than you or me.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:05:32pm |
re: #147 freetoken
"Dyed blonde" and "young" must be in fashion:
Miss Nebraska crowned Miss America
Oh noes, another lefty who has fallen under the spells of Michelle Obama!! All real Americans know that "eating disorders" is just double speak for... communism!!
I don't understand beauty pageants. WTF?
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:07:55pm |
re: #148 Rightwingconspirator
Harsh words with friends or at some party is easier to set aside than statements on TV. Film makers understand a cameras broadcast impact better than you or me.
Well. I guess after years of being in a society where most people think I will "burn in hell" for my non-beliefs has made me more tolerant. ;)
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:08:33pm |
re: #149 ggt
I don't understand beauty pageants. WTF?
I ascribe them to the "fantasy f*ck" phenomena of human society.
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Political Atheist Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:08:34pm |
re: #150 Gus 802
An excellent point.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:08:44pm |
re: #150 Gus 802
Well. I guess after years of being in a society where most people think I will "burn in hell" for my non-beliefs has made me more tolerant. ;)
You'll be in good comany, I'll be there. :)
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:09:37pm |
re: #152 Rightwingconspirator
An excellent point.
Some of them will even help me from time to time. :)
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ClaudeMonet Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:10:40pm |
re: #120 ggt
IRS --now, there is a word (well initials) that can produce fear.
MARINES --that produces awe.
One of the "debt resolution" services runs a radio ad that says the three most feared initials in America are I-R-S. I contend that P-M-S is the most fearsome.
MARINES--No kidding. I never argue with a Marine, no matter how long it's been since he or she was on active service. I would much prefer to die of natural causes years and years down the road.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:10:42pm |
re: #151 freetoken
I ascribe them to the "fantasy f*ck" phenomena of human society.
Fake hair, white teeth and being willing to show the world what you look like nearly naked are attributes for which we should all strive.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:11:51pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:12:25pm |
re: #155 ClaudeMonet
One of the "debt resolution" services runs a radio ad that says the three most feared initials in America are I-R-S. I contend that P-M-S is the most fearsome.
MARINES--No kidding. I never argue with a Marine, no matter how long it's been since he or she was on active service. I would much prefer to die of natural causes years and years down the road.
Not initials, but I always felt that hearing your Mother call you by your full name was the most fearsome.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:12:52pm |
re: #157 freetoken
But... but... but... she's going to tackle eating disorders.
That makes everything ok.
Is she going to be able to earn a living along the way?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:15:20pm |
re: #157 freetoken
But... but... but... she's going to tackle eating disorders.
That makes everything ok.
"My goal is to end hunger and work for world peace. After my year of representing Miss America to the world, I intend to work with impoverished children in a third world country while wearing high heels and maintaining my photogenic qualities."
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:18:48pm |
The winner of this skin flick show is going to lecture women about "eating disorders".
The irony - it's killing me.
Tell me, how many young women out there abuse themselves to try and win beauty pageants?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:23:12pm |
re: #162 freetoken
The winner of this
skin flickshow is going to lecture women about "eating disorders".The irony - it's killing me.
Tell me, how many young women out there abuse themselves to try and win beauty pageants?
WE had a family friend in the pageant in the 70's. I read some big booklet she had and one of the qualifications for entering was that the young woman had to be a virgin.
It does award a lot of scholarship money, but there has to be better way.
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ClaudeMonet Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:24:41pm |
re: #161 Gus 802
Three day weekend!
For some. Others of us have little choice but to work for a living.
Enjoy your day off anyway!
re: #156 ggt
Fake hair, white teeth and being willing to show the world what you look like nearly naked are attributes for which we should all strive.
Everybody needs an achievable goal, and for some women, that's it.
I certainly don't mind, so long as I never take seriously anything they say.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:24:47pm |
There are plenty beautiful, qualifed, intelligent young women out there in all shapes and sizes.
With that, I'm off to bed.
Have a great morning/day all!
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:24:50pm |
re: #162 freetoken
The winner of this
skin flickshow is going to lecture women about "eating disorders".The irony - it's killing me.
Tell me, how many young women out there abuse themselves to try and win beauty pageants?
Maybe. But it is a good format for someone to speak since they would be speaking to those that would be most vulnerable. The majority of people with eating disorders are not intent on winning beauty pageants and as far as I know anorexia and bulemia predates the same. There are many causes of eating disorders. Many times it's based on emotional and behavioral reactions or familial environments.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:25:29pm |
Miss body-fat-percentage-less-than-most-male-athletes- and-it's-going-to-make-me-rich is going to lecture corn syrup addled American women on eating disorders.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:25:57pm |
re: #166 Gus 802
Maybe. But it is a good format for someone to speak since they would be speaking to those that would be most vulnerable. The majority of people with eating disorders are not intent on winning beauty pageants and as far as I know anorexia and bulemia predates the same. There are many causes of eating disorders. Many times it's based on emotional and behavioral reactions or familial environments.
It's an extreme form of OCD.
night
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:31:19pm |
re: #166 Gus 802
Well yes, most of them aren't going to enter beauty contests.
Yet eating disorders are no doubt highly influenced by the self-image comparisons made by young women, against their peers and those whose images are thrust constantly in front of them.
There are plenty of other causes of eating disorders too - such as clinical depression.
Yet I'm overwhelmed by the idea that the winner of a competition based on the most fleeting of characteristics - physical beauty - is going to try and help women who are obsessed (in an unhealthy way) with distorted self-images.
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prairiefire Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:36:07pm |
Speaking of feminine beauty, the late great drag queen Craig Russell
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ClaudeMonet Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:40:25pm |
re: #170 freetoken
Well yes, most of them aren't going to enter beauty contests.
Yet eating disorders are no doubt highly influenced by the self-image comparisons made by young women, against their peers and those whose images are thrust constantly in front of them.
There are plenty of other causes of eating disorders too - such as clinical depression.
Yet I'm overwhelmed by the idea that the winner of a competition based on the most fleeting of characteristics - physical beauty - is going to try and help women who are obsessed (in an unhealthy way) with distorted self-images.
Look at it this way--She's probably well aware of the obsession and may have experienced it herself.
Either that, or she's as full of sh** as most beauty pageant contestants.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:42:07pm |
I knew someone who had anorexia as a teen. re: #170 freetoken
Well yes, most of them aren't going to enter beauty contests.
Yet eating disorders are no doubt highly influenced by the self-image comparisons made by young women, against their peers and those whose images are thrust constantly in front of them.
There are plenty of other causes of eating disorders too - such as clinical depression.
Yet I'm overwhelmed by the idea that the winner of a competition based on the most fleeting of characteristics - physical beauty - is going to try and help women who are obsessed (in an unhealthy way) with distorted self-images.
Well. Then the cynical side of me would say it's a bit of a publicity stunt. But it's not as simple as taking one young woman and subjecting her to idealized versions of a woman's figure in popular culture and then seeing a resulting behavior of starving oneself, or anorexia or bulimia. The argument here is that it's not a mere visual response but emotional or psychological. There are cultural factors but there are also other factors which are seen as a cause.
This is from the Mayo Clinic:
Sociocultural. Modern Western culture often cultivates and reinforces a desire for thinness. The media are splashed with images of thin models and actors. Success and worth are often equated with being thin. Peer pressure may fuel the desire to be thin, particularly among young girls. However, anorexia and other eating disorders existed centuries ago, suggesting that sociocultural values aren't solely responsible.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:48:08pm |
re: #172 ClaudeMonet
There is no way that she could be in the physical shape she is unless she was obsessed with her own self-image.
Too many people look at body-builders and just brush it off to genetics. Well, the genes no doubt are important, but for a woman to have as low a body fat percentage as the winner, while at the same time having a significant muscle mass, means she was quite dedicated to the task, over a long period of time.
re: #173 Gus 802
No doubt there is more to it than simply an image being seen. Yet again, what we have here is a woman who will be famous, and rich, and thus get the man (or woman, if she goes that way...) that would be desirable.
The winner's own obsession with beauty and physicality has brought her great success. Now, she has worked hard to maintain a physical ideal that is healthier, no doubt, than the anorexia.
The ultimate lesson of beauty pageants is this: what matters in life is how you look.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:54:14pm |
re: #174 freetoken
There is no way that she could be in the physical shape she is unless she was obsessed with her own self-image.
Too many people look at body-builders and just brush it off to genetics. Well, the genes no doubt are important, but for a woman to have as low a body fat percentage as the winner, while at the same time having a significant muscle mass, means she was quite dedicated to the task, over a long period of time.
re: #173 Gus 802
No doubt there is more to it than simply an image being seen. Yet again, what we have here is a woman who will be famous, and rich, and thus get the man (or woman, if she goes that way...) that would be desirable.
The winner's own obsession with beauty and physicality has brought her great success. Now, she has worked hard to maintain a physical ideal that is healthier, no doubt, than the anorexia.
The ultimate lesson of beauty pageants is this: what matters in life is how you look.
But that's true outside of the beauty pageant experience and true of the human animal experience. The good looking people get hired faster and promoted more often. The obese get poor customer service. The tall white guy gets the top management position. This obsession with physicality has been with us since the dawn of man due to the physical nature or the survival of the fittest. This is an evolutionary component of the human experience and it is found everywhere in human cultures around the world and human history. Beauty pageants only imitate what's already there.
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Gus Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:57:44pm |
Cause and effect. Anorexia was there well before Miss America and Vogue. Obesity was there well before McDonald's.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:25:04am |
re: #147 freetoken
"Dyed blonde" and "young" must be in fashion:
Miss Nebraska crowned Miss America
Oh noes, another lefty who has fallen under the spells of Michelle Obama!! All real Americans know that "eating disorders" is just double speak for... communism!!
I don't think 'dyed blonde' and 'young' has been out of fashion since the Roman Empire, at least.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:25:41am |
re: #155 ClaudeMonet
One of the "debt resolution" services runs a radio ad that says the three most feared initials in America are I-R-S. I contend that P-M-S is the most fearsome.
MARINES--No kidding. I never argue with a Marine, no matter how long it's been since he or she was on active service. I would much prefer to die of natural causes years and years down the road.
How about a Marine with PMS who works for the IRS?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:43:13am |
There was a joke going around once about sending a brigade of lady marines with PMS to lead Operation Desert storm: they fight like bulldogs and they retain water...
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:44:14am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:54:52am |
re: #182 000G
Some people just have the ability to come across as sincere and believable - it makes for a successful career in politics. Reagan and Bush II had it, as did Carter and Clinton.
Gore and Kerry did not have it, which is one major reason they lost against Bush.
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mdey Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:14:20am |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:22:34am |
re: #184 mdey
I wouldn'tre: #182 000G
I wouldn't really take that poll too seriously. I've never heard of that pollster until today, and just look at the comments. They all come from some unhinged Palinbot.
I saw a few wingnut blogs crowing about that poll earlier today. Not only is it from an unknown pollster the results show that 44% or Republicans and 71% of independents still won't vote for her if she runs. Pretty dismal results,
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mdey Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:44:32am |
re: #185 Killgore Trout
You're right about the wingnut blogs. I read a few today, and they are definitely highlighting the parts of the poll they like, and discounting the parts they don't like.
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Flounder Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:42:51am |
Good morning all. A beautiful red sunrise peering in my kitchen window, with the smell of freshly brewing coffee...
I hope everyone's day is better today, yesterday I couldn't get the Friggin oil filter off my car. Now THAT pisses me off, I put it on, how dare I eff myself! It's a purolater, i'll worry about in 5k more miles...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:07:52am |
re: #188 Shropshire_Slasher
If you go to your auto parts store you can buy a filter wrench that fits onto the filter (like a socket) and use a breaker bar. I used to service heavy equipment so I have faced these challenges but oon a much larger scale.
And good morning Honcos.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:17:49am |
re: #5 jaunte
There's something especially cold looking about scenes from the Netherlands in winter. [Link: www.flickr.com...]
Wanna know why? 'Cause it's fucking cold!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:21:47am |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wanna know why? 'Cause it's fucking cold!
If you have windmills you deserve to freeze. Just sayin'.
/
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laZardo Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:27:16am |
So I just noticed Saad Hariri looks a lot like Roman Bellic from GTA IV.
/WANNA GO BOWLING COUSIN?
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:04:55am |
the Pizza War rages on!....some fun comments
[Link: eatocracy.cnn.com...]
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:12:06am |
Good Morning. 29 degrees here in NE Philly. Brrr
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:13:10am |
re: #193 albusteve
the Pizza War rages on!...some fun comments
[Link: eatocracy.cnn.com...]
Last time I was in NYC I packed a half a pie in my luggage and brought it home. Was awesome. I haven't been to Chicago in 30 years.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:13:21am |
New yuk may claim to have invented the pizza, but Chicago perfected it and made it a meal! I think it has to do with the personalities. New yorkers are rude and shallow so the pizza is thin and transparent. Chicago is thoughtful and friendly, so their pizza is some thing that you can take your time to have a conversation while eating it. Nobody can have a conversation with a new yorker, they already think they know everything and are better than anybody else. Gino's East!!!
hahahaha!
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:14:20am |
re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar
Last time I was in NYC I packed a half a pie in my luggage and brought it home. Was awesome. I haven't been to Chicago in 30 years.
this site is hilarious...I'm New Yuk style all the way myself
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:16:38am |
re: #197 albusteve
this site is hilarious...I'm New Yuk style all the way myself
I saw something about pizza wars on the History Channel. The all seemed to hate the guy who started California Pizza Kitchen. Heh.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:16:41am |
I'm a New Yorker who loves both Chicago AND NY style pizza! And I don't feel like a traitor. I feel like a fat girl. But a happy fat girl!
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:18:39am |
re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar
I saw something about pizza wars on the History Channel. The all seemed to hate the guy who started California Pizza Kitchen. Heh.
Chicago or NYC...no other place counts....that's the rule
Chicago Pizza is not real pizza. It's casserole.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:19:38am |
re: #200 albusteve
Chicago or NYC...no other place counts...that's the rule
Chicago Pizza is not real pizza. It's casserole.
We have 3 great pizza places here. All owned by Greeks.
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RogueOne Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:19:42am |
re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar
Morning all, Nice to see ya CCA!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:20:49am |
re: #202 RogueOne
Morning all, Nice to see ya CCA!
Yea, i've been hit and miss with interweb connection.
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Flounder Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:23:18am |
re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yeah, I tried that.
I could always drive a screwdriver in it and turn, but if that don't work I'm really screwed. Arsehole car makers make them so you can't get to the stupid filter.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:26:04am |
re: #204 Shropshire_Slasher
Yeah, I tried that.
I could always drive a screwdriver in it and turn, but if that don't work I'm really screwed. Arsehole car makers make them so you can't get to the stupid filter.
Get a good grip and try to muscle it off. And make sure to hold your tounge in the right position.
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RogueOne Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:26:38am |
Mr. Fuller may have a few screws loose himself:
[Link: www.kpho.com...]
TUCSON, Ariz. -- One of the victims from the Tucson shootings has been arrested and involuntarily committed to a mental health facility, according to the Pima County Sheriff's Office.Eric Fuller was arrested Saturday after authorities said he shouted "You're dead" to Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.
...
During an interview with CBS 5 reporter Elias Johnson just five days after he was shot, Fuller said the shooting made him realize he would save the world some day.Fuller also told Johnson he went to Rep. Gabriel Gifford's public event because he felt he had to "protect" her.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:27:54am |
NY style pizza IS pizza. Chicago is to pizza as the Cubs are to winning baseball titles.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:33:03am |
re: #206 RogueOne
Mr. Fuller may have a few screws loose himself:
[Link: www.kpho.com...]
and here I'd almost forgotten about that guy....I have a theory: the more you talk about crazy people, the more crazy you become
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:33:37am |
re: #208 albusteve
NY style pizza IS pizza. Chicago is to pizza as the Cubs are to winning baseball titles.
I want to say the Cubs paid Carlos Pena 10 million in a one year deal. He'll get his 25-30 HR's, but he'll bat .221.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:37:35am |
re: #210 Cannadian Club Akbar
I want to say the Cubs paid Carlos Pena 10 million in a one year deal. He'll get his 25-30 HR's, but he'll bat .221.
yeah, but they have the greatest park in the game
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:40:55am |
re: #211 albusteve
yeah, but they have the greatest park in the game
And their uniforms are beautiful. This is the year!
Good morning!
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:41:58am |
re: #212 NJDhockeyfan
And their uniforms are beautiful. This is the year!
Good morning!
let's play two!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:43:57am |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:46:52am |
The art of alcoholic drinks through a microscope...
If you have often wondered what exactly lies within the various concoctions that make our favourite alcoholic drinks, then here is your answer.
These incredible pictures show popular cocktails magnified up to 1,000 times under a high-tech laboratory microscope.
Produced by U.S. firm Bevshots, they reveal the incredible molecules and kaleidoscopic colours created by the different combinations.
Capturing the constituent parts of favourite drinks such as vodka, pina colada and Chablis, the pictures were taken in Florida State University's chemistry department.
'What you can see in the magnified pictures are the crystalised carbohydrates that have become sugars and glucose,' explained Bevshots founder Lester Hutt.
'Each image was created by using a pipette of each particular drink and squeezing a crop onto a slide.
'Then the droplets are allowed to dry out and then once they have the slide is placed under the microscope and a picture taken.'
It usually takes around four weeks for the alcohol to dry out completely in an airtight container - although in some cases it could be three months.
'Some drinks such as vodka do not have as many impurities in as say for example a pina colada cocktail,' said Mr Hutt.
'So when they break down into their constituent parts they can fall apart and not dry out properly. This means that photographing something like vodka can take up to 200 attempts to get properly.
'Cocktails can have fruit and soft drinks in which contain citric acids and complex sugars which dry out well and look great photographed.'
...
Fantastic pictures!
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:47:08am |
re: #214 NJDhockeyfan
Ernie Banks is a national legend :)
skinny little infielder hit over 500 homers (that used to mean something)....I saw him play a few times
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:48:33am |
re: #215 NJDhockeyfan
The art of alcoholic drinks through a microscope...
Fantastic pictures!
LOOK!....there's a picture of Jesus in my scotch!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:49:35am |
re: #217 albusteve
LOOK!...there's a picture of Jesus in my scotch!
There's Waldo! I knew I could finally find him.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:50:50am |
re: #215 NJDhockeyfan
The last comment is from Lakewood Ranch in Sarasota. With 48 down dings. She is really giving my state a bad name.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:51:26am |
re: #217 albusteve
LOOK!...there's a picture of Jesus in my scotch!
Golden Casino will give you 20 grand for it!!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:55:49am |
re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm so glad I've PrePaid my tuittion to FSU. Makes me do back flips knowing my children will be in good hands. Yes the images are lovely. BUT MY children are going to be accountants, Attorneys, doctors, teachers.
- Laura, Lakewood Ranch, Sarasota, FLorida
And they will be well informed on the artistic wonders of happy hour drinks! Cheers!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:57:25am |
re: #221 NJDhockeyfan
And they will be well informed on the artistic wonders of happy hour drinks! Cheers!
If she has a daughter I have 3 words for her: "Girls Gone Wild." Heh.
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Jadespring Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:58:45am |
re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar
The last comment is from Lakewood Ranch in Sarasota. With 48 down dings. She is really giving my state a bad name.
It's a bizarre comment.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:59:18am |
re: #222 Cannadian Club Akbar
If she has a daughter I have 3 words for her: "Girls Gone Wild." Heh.
Mom might have a heart attack when she sees her daughter in a GGW commercial one night. Ha ha ha.
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Jadespring Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:00:04am |
I wonder if she realizes that doctors actually take chemistry.
Probably not..
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:01:27am |
re: #224 NJDhockeyfan
Mom might have a heart attack when she sees her daughter in a GGW commercial one night. Ha ha ha.
And dad's shock when he downloads a copy at the office.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:05:49am |
IBM's Watson Computer Wallops 'Jeopardy!' Champs in Trial Run
Our robot overlord isn’t named HAL or SkyNET -- it’s Watson.
After four years of development, IBM on Thursday publicly unveiled a computing system that specializes in analyzing natural human language and answering complex questions. In other words, it’s really good at Jeopardy!.
To test its acumen, the machine was pitted in an exhibition match against the most celebrated human contestants, Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter, to stunning effect. Watson quickly cleared out the entire first category without the humans getting even a buzz in.
Named after IBM founder Thomas J. Watson, the project is a defining breakthrough in artificial intelligence technology, said John E. Kelly III, senior vice president and director of IBM Research.
“We’ve created a system that can interact in a very special way,” he said at the demonstration. “People spend their lifetime trying to advance [the field of artificial intelligence] by inches. What Watson does has demonstrated the ability to advance the field of artificial intelligence by miles.”
Today’s practice run was just a glimpse of what's to come, in other words. IBM announced the contest in December. The official first-ever man vs. machine Jeopardy competition will take place Friday, and will air on February 14, 15, and 16.
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darthstar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:06:08am |
re: #215 NJDhockeyfan
The art of alcoholic drinks through a microscope...
Fantastic pictures!
And this is why I drink scotch.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:08:54am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:09:12am |
re: #229 darthstar
And this is why I drink scotch.
This is why I drink CC.///
[Link: www.funatiq.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:11:32am |
re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar
This is why I drink CC.///
[Link: www.funatiq.com...]
Hey, I think I know one of those girls!
//
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:12:18am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
Hey, I think I know one of those girls!
//
I liked the parking spot for drunks near the bottom.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:13:22am |
re: #228 NJDhockeyfan
It's easy when you load it with all the answers questions...
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:14:11am |
re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar
I liked the parking spot for drunks near the bottom.
I can honestly say I never drove into a tree seated on the drivers side after drinking.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:15:31am |
Dinosaur Graveyard Reveals Oldest T. Rex Relative: Dawn Runner
What may be the earliest known relative of T. rex and all meat-eating dinosaurs has been discovered.
The dog-sized mini-predator would've made its future relatives proud as it fed on small dinosaurs and the young of other reptiles, and is now shaking up what scientists had previously learned about the evolution of those extinct giants.
The small, lanky, two-legged carnivore named Eodromaeus murphi -- Eodromaeus being Greek for "dawn runner," murphi in honor of field volunteer Jim Murphy -- weighed only 10 to 15 pounds (4.5 to 6.8 kilograms) and measured about 4 feet (1.2 meters) in length from snout to tail. The skeletons of two specimens were discovered side-by-side in 230-million-year-old iron-rich stone in the "Valley of the Moon" at the foothills of the Andes in northeastern Argentina, which was once the southwest corner of the supercontinent Pangaea.
"With a hike across the valley, you literally walk over the graveyard of the earliest dinosaurs to a time when they ultimately dominate," said researcher Ricardo Martinez, a paleontologist at the National University of San Juan in Argentina.
Science!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:15:41am |
re: #235 NJDhockeyfan
I can honestly say I never drove into a tree seated on the drivers side after drinking.
On the roof?
///
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:17:24am |
Gotta run for a bit. BBL.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:18:16am |
re: #236 NJDhockeyfan
The small, lanky, two-legged carnivore named Eodromaeus murphi -- Eodromaeus being Greek for "dawn runner," murphi in honor of field volunteer Jim Murphy
"With a hike across the valley, you literally walk over the graveyard of the earliest dinosaurs to a time when they ultimately dominate,"
There was a Law that stated that if anything could go wrong...
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:28:13am |
Journalism group won't give out award named for Helen Thomas
The Society of Professional Journalists is retiring a lifetime achievement award named for former White House correspondent Helen Thomas.Thomas stepped down from Hearst Newspapers last year after saying outside White House Jewish heritage celebrations in May that Jews in Israel should "get the hell out of Palestine" and "go back home to Poland, Germany, America and everywhere else."
"Her comments were offensive," President Obama said after the resignation. "It is a shame, because Helen's someone who has been a correspondent through I don't know how many presidents — was a real institution in Washington. But I think she made the right decision."
The Detroit News reported Friday evening that Thomas, who grew up in the area, caused further controversy by telling a crowd in Dearborn in December that "Zionists" control Congress, Wall Street and Hollywood.
Thomas was the first recipient of the SPJ award in 2000, and other winners included Tom Brokaw.
"SPJ will simply not give a lifetime achievement award (anymore,)" said Scott Leadingham, spokesman for the group.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:45:55am |
Morning all. Watching This Week with Christianne Amanpour. A tear-jerker, but wonderful.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:11:53am |
Satt4u2, what's up?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:20:50am |
Arcimboldo's Feast for the Eyes
Renaissance artist Giuseppe Arcimboldo painted witty, even surreal portraits composed of fruits, vegetables, fish and trees
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:25:31am |
re: #243 Rightwingconspirator
Good morning.
Hola. They just showed Tea Party leader Humphries standing up to say we shouldn't be discussing the political ramifications of this, but it looks like they cut out Fuller's response discussed here [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Anyway, it's a very moving meeting.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:26:15am |
re: #245 marjoriemoon
Yes it is, and I have long admired Christiane Amanpour.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:28:48am |
re: #245 marjoriemoon
Hola. They just showed Tea Party leader Humphries standing up to say we shouldn't be discussing the political ramifications of this, but it looks like they cut out Fuller's response discussed here [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Anyway, it's a very moving meeting.
I spoke too soon.... They just mentioned Fuller's outburst but didn't show the confrontation.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:29:49am |
re: #246 Rightwingconspirator
Yes it is, and I have long admired Christiane Amanpour.
Actually I haven't! But I think she's doing a terrific job with the show, better than any host they ever had.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:34:52am |
re: #248 marjoriemoon
Actually I haven't! But I think she's doing a terrific job with the show, better than any host they ever had.
The first time I saw her she was ducking bullets in Bosnia, IIRC.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:36:10am |
re: #246 Rightwingconspirator
Yes it is, and I have long admired Christiane Amanpour.
She lost me when her favorite painting she has was posted on the NYT website. It appears to be the WTC on fire.
12. Favorite Item in the Apartment: A massive painting that I got in Iran, a few years ago, by Farideh Lashai, a friend who is also Iran’s pre-eminent abstract-expressionist painter. It gives me joy every time I walk in my door.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:37:21am |
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
That subject prompted a very healthy debate here.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:38:43am |
re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar
That subject prompted a very healthy debate here.
I do remember. It could be something else entirely but it looks too much like the burning WTC towers IMO.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:40:18am |
re: #249 Cannadian Club Akbar
The first time I saw her she was ducking bullets in Bosnia, IIRC.
My issue with her is with her stand against Israel.
Actually the Miami Jewish Federation is having a huge meeting this morning to discuss the delegitimization and defamation of Israel going on in college campuses, divesting from Israel, boycotting Israeli foods, etc. It's on the local news now.
Michael Oren, the Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. said a wonderful thing. It's just not anti-Israel and anti-Semitic, it's anti-American.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:41:51am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:42:36am |
re: #254 marjoriemoon
She's Iranian. Her husband is Jewish. I don't know what her deal is.
Is he a self hating Jew?
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:44:21am |
re: #255 Cannadian Club Akbar
Is he a self hating Jew?
I don't know much about him. He's a diplomat and also a journalist.
[Link: www.google.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:44:58am |
re: #254 marjoriemoon
She's Iranian. Her husband is Jewish. I don't know what her deal is.
Christiane Amanpour: The Good Side of Hamas
At CNN’s Anderson Cooper “blog,” Christiane Amanpour shills for the Hamas terror gang: From terrorism to trash collection.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:45:55am |
re: #256 marjoriemoon
I don't know much about him. He's a diplomat and also a journalist.
[Link: www.google.com...]
That's right, James Rubin. I don't recall any comments made while in the WH.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:47:31am |
re: #252 NJDhockeyfan
Anybody who says it is something else is being intellectually dishonest.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 8:49:24am |
re: #258 Cannadian Club Akbar
That's right, James Rubin. I don't recall any comments made while in the WH.
I should have said former diplomat and journalist. Being Iranian doesn't automatically make someone an anti-Semite, of course, but I wouldn't necessarily blame her husband for her stand. There's always James Carville and Mary Matalin.
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