For a Sunday afternoon music break, here’s another performance from the “Three Girls and Their Buddy” tour, featuring Emmylou Harris, Patty Griffin, Shawn Colvin and Buddy Miller. This is a classic Tom Waits song; Shawn Colvin introduces it by saying she’s always loved it, and so have I.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:51:47am |
"...you don't meet nice girls in coffee shops..."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:55:08am |
Is it a bad thing to say that Emmylou Harris is my least favorite on the stage?
I heart Shawn and Patty. Don't know enough about Buddy.
But have never really gotten Emmylou.
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Kronocide Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:55:53am |
Shawn Colvin is smooth.
Catch you guys in Vegas.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:58:26am |
re: #3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Check out anything she did with Gram parsons. To me, everything else she has done since is just a footnote/addendum.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:58:39am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:59:18am |
re: #6 albusteve
He's leaving paradise, going to a parking lot.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:00:29pm |
If anybody saw the movie "The Book of Eli" with Denzel Washington, (DENZEL!), Waits owns the pawnshop.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:01:59pm |
re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If anybody saw the movie "The Book of Eli" with Denzel Washington, (DENZEL!), Waits owns the pawnshop.
That movie any good?
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:02:35pm |
re: #5 ralphieboy
Check out anything she did with Gram parsons. To me, everything else she has done since is just a footnote/addendum.
Parsons turned Keith Richards on to heroin, but was also a huge musical influence on him...you can lay the whole country funk sound on Gram...worthless factoid
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:04:13pm |
re: #9 Varek Raith
I actually enjoyed it. Mila Kunis is turning into something special, too.
It has Denzel (DENZEL!)...
I'm a fan. Can you tell?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:05:56pm |
re: #10 albusteve
'Tis said that Gram showed up once wrecked off his nut in the studio, banged out an intro to "Honky Tonk Women" and then passed out. The Stones picked it up and turned it into the stuff of legend...
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:11:24pm |
re: #12 ralphieboy
'Tis said that Gram showed up once wrecked off his nut in the studio, banged out an intro to "Honky Tonk Women" and then passed out. The Stones picked it up and turned it into the stuff of legend...
never heard that one myself
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:14:05pm |
re: #11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I actually enjoyed it. Mila Kunis is turning into something special, too.
It has Denzel (DENZEL!)...
I'm a fan. Can you tell?
caps reveal everything....EVERYTHING!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:15:48pm |
The lyrics to this song are some of my very favorite. It's impressionistic songwriting - little details from a heartbreaking story that's never quite told.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:19:07pm |
re: #15 Charles
Isn't that Waits' thing? He appears to want to let the listener work it out for themselves.
I was reading a bit about him earlier. He won't even discuss some songs for that reason.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:21:52pm |
re: #13 albusteve
Gram was a rich kid with a big trust fund, he did not need the money and was flattered that the Stones would be ripping him off for material in exchange for letting him hang out with them.
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:41:15pm |
I was messing on my guitar last night and wrote a new crappy song.. It's in Dminor and it's called 'I can't remember you'
Trying to live my life
but it's all in the past
I can't remember our song together
dancing in the wind
Dancing like a wayward feather
I dream emptiness
It's all I got
Every memory is left in the sand
I sit and ponder my fate
who are you to judge
Every morning when I awake
If only I knew you
If only I could remember
The love of my life has passed before my eyes
The love of my life was a lie
If only I could remember you
Before the sun went down
If only I could remember you
The woman of my life
Time has left me..I tried so hard
Stay here beside me..I must be a fool
Catching sands of memories
It's what we do
Time has left me..everything is gone
The woman I can't remember
My life is a dark September
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:41:58pm |
re: #17 ralphieboy
Gram was a rich kid with a big trust fund, he did not need the money and was flattered that the Stones would be ripping him off for material in exchange for letting him hang out with them.
I doubt he had anything to do with that song....and Richards genuinely like Parsons...invited him to play at Altamont with his own band, and he had stayed at Villa Nellcote during the Exile sessions...they were friends
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:44:04pm |
The Reagan brothers are mot certainly not on the same page about the new book.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Ronald Reagan’s conservative son called his liberal half-brother “an embarrassment” Saturday for speculating in a new memoir that their father suffered from Alzheimer’s disease while president.“My brother seems to want [to] sell out his father to sell books,” he added in another tweet.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:47:04pm |
re: #20 Rightwingconspirator
Difficult dynamic. I can't believe they're playing it out in public.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:47:21pm |
re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Difficult dynamic. I can't believe they're playing it out in public.
Twitter is a menace to society.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:48:47pm |
re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist
Twitter is a menace to society.
It seems to have replaced "inner dialogue".
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:49:33pm |
OK, I'm goin' nuts out here. My first assignment for this class is to be given a psychological theory, and write a 500-word definition of it.
I have been assigned 'addiction theory'.
There is a LOT out there. And people break up the ideas differently, and define terms differently, and I have NO idea what the most current concepts are, or the schools of thought underlying them.
My only direction? Don't use Wikipedia as a sole source.
Yeah. I had that part down.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:49:45pm |
re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The whole thing is unfortunate, none of this was necessary to do an honest bio.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:51:38pm |
re: #25 Rightwingconspirator
The whole thing is unfortunate, none of this was necessary to do an honest bio.
they want an audience, simple as that....when you're right, you want everybody to know it....big egos, small brains....a couple of real jerks
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:55:32pm |
re: #20 Rightwingconspirator
The Reagan brothers are mot certainly not on the same page about the new book.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Ronald Reagan’s conservative son called his liberal half-brother “an embarrassment” Saturday for speculating in a new memoir that their father suffered from Alzheimer’s disease while president.“My brother seems to want [to] sell out his father to sell books,” he added in another tweet.
I thought that was an open secret in the press anyway. A lot of covering up and glossing over and what not of "gaffes" and "moments".
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:55:42pm |
re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It seems to have replaced "inner dialogue".
This is what really bothers me about the MyFace generation. With Facebook and Twitter, people grow up terrified of any moment alone with their own thoughts. They have to be connected to someone else at every single moment. Even when talking to someone face to face, which would generally qualify as human connection, they think nothing of texting, checking Facebook, tweets, or anything like that, while very vaguely listening to the person they're talking to. They just cannot function unless they can read regurgitations of other people's thoughts, every minute of every day. And they absolutely cannot bear any time to think to themselves.
This connectivity would be one thing if it were enabling us to share thoughts and information and thus come up with a gestalt greater than the sum of the individual parts. It is early days, but that is manifestly not the case so far.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:58:03pm |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I'm goin' nuts out here. My first assignment for this class is to be given a psychological theory, and write a 500-word definition of it.
I have been assigned 'addiction theory'.
There is a LOT out there. And people break up the ideas differently, and define terms differently, and I have NO idea what the most current concepts are, or the schools of thought underlying them.
My only direction? Don't use Wikipedia as a sole source.
Yeah. I had that part down.
Kids today have it pretty easy but I wonder how well they'll do with higher education where the topics are so obscure that information can only be found in libraries. Do they even learn the Dewy Decimal system anymore?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:01:03pm |
Instapundit is now claiming that Loughner was a "New Age terrorist" because there are reports he was influenced by Zeitgeist . He ignores the fact that it's a popular movie with Alex Jones, JBS, Paulians and Stormfront nazis.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:03:02pm |
Wow, the things you learn about yourself from Andrew Breitbart's sycophants!
Did you know I once had a post that said Palestinians are cannibals? No? Neither did I. (And in fact, I didn't.)
Did you know that I've been engaged in mass deletions of my archives, to hide all evidence of my extremist past? No? Neither did I. (I haven't.)
Did you know that I've deleted a lot of comments from LGF? Actually, yes, that is true, because I block-wiped the entire contributions of some of the worst abusers of LGF's earlier days, people like Iron Fist and the venal little twerps who run the stalker sites. I make no apologies for that whatsoever. Their hateful, often sick comments were laying there like old turds, and the place is cleaner without them.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:03:26pm |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is now claiming that Loughner was a "New Age terrorist" because there are reports he was influenced by Zeitgeist . He ignores the fact that it's a popular movie with Alex Jones, JBS, Paulians and Stormfront nazis.
...they're also claiming he believed New Age mysticism about the myth of global warming.
Wingnuts just keep getting dumber.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:03:39pm |
re: #28 wozzablog
Another view is this was simply a cheap shot by his most ardent critics that flies in the face of real medical examinations and evaluations. 4 different doctors. I went looking at all the excerpts and corollary info I could find yesterday. The book has a glaring factual error about his surgery after a fall of his horse. He hit his head and they drilled a "burr hole" to let fluid out & reduce pressure.
Plus I think we sell our elders short by attaching that label to every bad memory moment. Ever misplace your car keys?
According to the reported excerpt, Ronnie described the surgery as far more invasive, and got the city wrong. That's pretty sloppy, at best.
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:05:27pm |
Nasrallah: US and Israel caused Lebanese gov't collapse
Nasrallah accused Hariri's son, Prime Minister Sa'ad Hariri, of acting under "heavy American influence." He explained that there was an agreement between the two major Lebanese parties, mediated by Saudi Arabia, that the government would denounce the investigation's findings and stop funding the International Court of Justice. However, Hariri traveled to America, where he announced that he would not accept the compromise.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:06:41pm |
re: #34 Rightwingconspirator
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
After leaving office, he announced his condition of Alzheimer's disease in a letter expressing his gratitude of service to the American people. About five million Americans are afflicted with the disease and there is no known cure.
2004.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:10:39pm |
re: #36 wozzablog
It was diagnosed 5 years after his term. A lot can happen in 5 years at that age. Or any. From Wiki
Alzheimer's disease
In August 1994, at the age of 83, Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease,[240] an incurable neurological disorder which destroys brain cells and ultimately causes death.[240][241] In November he informed the nation through a handwritten letter,[240] writing in part:
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:10:52pm |
re: #34 Rightwingconspirator
Another view is this was simply a cheap shot by his most ardent critics that flies in the face of real medical examinations and evaluations. 4 different doctors. I went looking at all the excerpts and corollary info I could find yesterday. The book has a glaring factual error about his surgery after a fall of his horse. He hit his head and they drilled a "burr hole" to let fluid out & reduce pressure.
Plus I think we sell our elders short by attaching that label to every bad memory moment. Ever misplace your car keys?According to the reported excerpt, Ronnie described the surgery as far more invasive, and got the city wrong. That's pretty sloppy, at best.
RWC - IIRC, the announcement of his Alzheimer's came very quickly after he left office.
Thinking about my grandmother, who also had Alzheimer's - there was a period of time when early symptoms were apparent, but she was still able to function perfectly well. It was a very slowly progessing Alzheimer's. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Reagan had the early symptoms of it just before leaving office. Whether he knew or not, is another matter entirely.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:11:37pm |
re: #36 wozzablog
Seems to be a good study by the NYTimes which said he didn't - although he was worried about it himself.
Watching the end of the Bears game anyway.
Laters all.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:12:32pm |
re: #39 jaunte
An unusual lifestyle choice.
I'm just fascinated with Breitbart's compulsion to spam twitter with every thought that enters his head, AND then he also re-tweets everybody else's thoughts about him, positive or negative. I think you hit it right - he likes to see his name.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:14:04pm |
re: #41 reine.de.tout
I'm just fascinated with Breitbart's compulsion to spam twitter with every thought that enters his head, AND then he also re-tweets everybody else's thoughts about him, positive or negative. I think you hit it right - he likes to see his name.
in five years there will be detox centers all across the country for the addicts
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:14:18pm |
re: #37 Rightwingconspirator
I'm not saying there was a diagnosis hidden from the american people - but that those around him saw a condition that was more than just a little absentmindedness.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:14:58pm |
re: #38 reine.de.tout
Well... From 1997, with no good reason to lie-
While Known for Being Forgetful, Reagan Was Mentally Sound in Office, Doctors Say
"But even with the hindsight of Mr. Reagan's diagnosis, his four main White House doctors say they never detected any evidence that his forgetfulness was more than just that. His mental competence in office, they said in a series of recent interviews, was never in doubt. Indeed, they pointed out, tests of his mental status did not begin to show evidence of the disease until the summer of 1993, more than four years after he left the White House."
Seems to me it was after he was out of office.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:16:01pm |
re: #42 albusteve
in five years there will be detox centers all across the country for the addicts
Hm
It would be so great if I could be in twitter detox with Andrew, wouldn't it? I need to step up my game - I mostly just watch.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:16:03pm |
re: #40 wozzablog
Seems to be a good study by the NYTimes which said he didn't - although he was worried about it himself.
Watching the end of the Bears game anyway.
Laters all.
Alzheimer's research has progressed a lot since then. Today he might have been able to get an earlier, or more sure diagnosis.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:17:27pm |
re: #45 Rightwingconspirator
Well... From 1997, with no good reason to lie-
While Known for Being Forgetful, Reagan Was Mentally Sound in Office, Doctors Say"But even with the hindsight of Mr. Reagan's diagnosis, his four main White House doctors say they never detected any evidence that his forgetfulness was more than just that. His mental competence in office, they said in a series of recent interviews, was never in doubt. Indeed, they pointed out, tests of his mental status did not begin to show evidence of the disease until the summer of 1993, more than four years after he left the White House."
Seems to me it was after he was out of office.
Ah, OK.
At the time, I just recall thinking in the later years of his last term, the forgetfulness and hesitation while he was speaking was odd.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:18:26pm |
re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist
A good friend of mine made the decision this morning to put her mom in a home. She's been going down for years. Now she needs professional care.
It is very sad for a family.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:19:52pm |
re: #45 Rightwingconspirator
Well... From 1997, with no good reason to lie-
While Known for Being Forgetful, Reagan Was Mentally Sound in Office, Doctors Say"But even with the hindsight of Mr. Reagan's diagnosis, his four main White House doctors say they never detected any evidence that his forgetfulness was more than just that. His mental competence in office, they said in a series of recent interviews, was never in doubt. Indeed, they pointed out, tests of his mental status did not begin to show evidence of the disease until the summer of 1993, more than four years after he left the White House."
Seems to me it was after he was out of office.
well, one things for sure...in Twitterland the sides have been drawn up, and the issue settled, except for all the required howling and poo slinging
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:21:25pm |
re: #49 reine.de.tout
It is not really a good job for an elder. Look at Obama, and Clinton. It ages even the (for POTUS) very young. One could make the point anything beyond normal retirement age is very risky. As in McCain, folks. That could have had all kinds of problems quite apart from his policies.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:23:48pm |
re: #51 albusteve
Sure. We can listen to the critics, or the medical pros. I guess my opinion on who I trust on this one has been made clear.
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dmon Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:24:18pm |
My own mother has some instances of forgetfullness, not quite as quick as she used to be. We all notice a little slip her and there, sh does too, she is an active vibrant lady who has a schedule i wouldnt attempt to keep up with. At 74 she is totally independent and none of us see any reason to worry about her in the slightest, none of us suspect Alzheimers.
That being said, if five years from now her mental faculties degrade and she were to be diagnosed......... I imagine I'll look back and wonder if some of her small slip ups were early signs. I think its only natural.
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Obdicut Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:24:34pm |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We're doing everything we can to keep my grammy at home, even though she needs 24 hour care, because she gets so confused when she's not in her own home. I strongly feel that she'll die quite quickly after going into a home, or at least lose the last of her personality.
And yes, it's quite sad. Every little sickness seems to sap a bit more of her away.
She's ninety-two, though. She only started to slip at all in the past ten years or so.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:25:28pm |
re: #51 albusteve
well, one things for sure...in Twitterland the sides have been drawn up, and the issue settled, except for all the required howling and poo slinging
At this point, I don't see how it can matter much, one way or the other. He wasn't diagnosed while in office, and there's no apparent medical consensus about how affected he might have been before he stepped down. He was able to fulfill the duties of his office to the end of his term. It may be alarming to think he wasn't entirely mentally present, but you don't step down from the presidency because you're getting a little forgetful.
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dmon Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:26:37pm |
I dont understand how the possibility would be considered a slam.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:27:06pm |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Honestly? I much prefer what happened to my mother... and I hated that with ever thing in me.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:30:49pm |
Someone sent me a copy of the stalker blog's 'memory hole mosaic' recently. I had to laugh.
They have 47 pages that I deleted. There are currently 37,913 posts at LGF by me. That means I've deleted a WHOPPING 0.123% of my archives! Call the police! Wholesale deletion!
There are a couple that weren't deleted at all, they're still visible.
The stalkers include my post with Michael Yon's picture of a soldier holding an Iraqi boy. Michael Yon himself asked that I delete this post; he was being very protective about his copyright, which was his absolute right, so I deleted it.
And of the rest, again - I make no apologies to anyone for deleting any of them. Some were deleted shortly after being posted because they were mistakes or proved to be bad sources. Others were deleted because I want nothing at all to do with the people I linked, like European fascist mouthpiece Fjordman.
And I deleted all the posts about the Flight 93 memorial, because, as I commented at the time when I deleted them, I was seeing a lot of referrals to those old pages from crazy "anti-jihad" blogs, trying to drum up the bogus controversy again, and I did not want them to be used for that purpose. I realized this story was completely full of crap many years ago, and I regret ever posting about it -- and I'm not trying to "hide" something by deleting those entries, I'm trying to keep bad information off the interwebs.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:31:01pm |
re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Honestly? I much prefer what happened to my mother... and I hated that with ever thing in me.
I'm reminded of an NPR story I listened to. They polled nurses on how they would choose to die. The surprising answer? Cancer. Reason? Because you have notice, you have a chance to get all your affairs in order, mend the fences that need to be mended, etc.
Lost my MIL suddenly. That was so hard, one day here, one day gone. No goodbye.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:34:02pm |
re: #59 Charles
I stopped checking their "memory hole" posts because everytime they claim all the comments for an old post have been deleted I click and the comments show up with no problem. I can't imagine why they would even care to revisit a 6 year old thread anyways.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:34:07pm |
re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist
At this point, I don't see how it can matter much, one way or the other. He wasn't diagnosed while in office, and there's no apparent medical consensus about how affected he might have been before he stepped down. He was able to fulfill the duties of his office to the end of his term. It may be alarming to think he wasn't entirely mentally present, but you don't step down from the presidency because you're getting a little forgetful.
This.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:34:36pm |
re: #61 Killgore Trout
I stopped checking their "memory hole" posts because everytime they claim all the comments for an old post have been deleted I click and the comments show up with no problem. I can't imagine why they would even care to revisit a 6 year old thread anyways.
Or spend the amount of time they spend doing that stuff.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:37:27pm |
re: #52 Rightwingconspirator
It is not really a good job for an elder. Look at Obama, and Clinton. It ages even the (for POTUS) very young. One could make the point anything beyond normal retirement age is very risky. As in McCain, folks. That could have had all kinds of problems quite apart from his policies.
the subject does not interest me...the vapid way it's being played out does a little
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:41:21pm |
re: #63 reine.de.tout
Or spend the amount of time they spend doing that stuff.
They make charts and graphs, collate numbers and cross reference stuff, They've turned it into a whole science. I'm pretty obsessive about my garden and even I'm not that weird with it.
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webevintage Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:42:08pm |
We have much more knowledge about Alzheimers then we did when Regan was in office...he may or may not have been in the early stages, but unless his Doctors recognized the symptoms it does not matter.
Like SFZ said:
He was able to fulfill the duties of his office to the end of his term. It may be alarming to think he wasn't entirely mentally present, but you don't step down from the presidency because you're getting a little forgetful.
My FIL died of Alzheimers and when we look back we can see that things that just seemed odd then that we now recognize as the beginnings of his illness, that he was ill at least a year or two before we began to think something was wrong.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:50:24pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
They make charts and graphs, collate numbers and cross reference stuff, They've turned it into a whole science. I'm pretty obsessive about my garden and even I'm not that weird with it.
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austin_blue Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:51:59pm |
re: #68 webevintage
We have much more knowledge about Alzheimers then we did when Regan was in office...he may or may not have been in the early stages, but unless his Doctors recognized the symptoms it does not matter.
Like SFZ said:My FIL died of Alzheimers and when we look back we can see that things that just seemed odd then that we now recognize as the beginnings of his illness, that he was ill at least a year or two before we began to think something was wrong.
Same with my FIL. AD is just one name for a wide range of dementia-related pathologies. In fact, only a post-mortem brain biopsy can confirm AD. Was Reagan forgetful of where his keys were at the end of his second term? Maybe. Did he know what keys were *for*? Sure.
And remember, even if he was in the mid-stage of his particular pathology when he left office, he was in much better shape than Woodrow Wilson, who had a pretty massive stroke and was in terrible health when he left office.
In fact:
"Edith Bolling Galt Wilson (October 15, 1872 – December 28, 1961), second wife of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, was First Lady of the United States from 1915 to 1921. She has been labeled "the Secret President" and "the first woman to run the government" for the role she played when her husband suffered prolonged and disabling illness after a stroke in October 1919. Some even refer to her as "the first female president of the United States."[1]"
Link:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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reloadingisnotahobby Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:55:54pm |
The only thing easier than that .....
Is ...........never imagine that...
Life will blow away our imagination every time!
Yes! personal experience...On my person.
What the hell we're we talking about ?
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Obdicut Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:56:21pm |
My grandfather on my dad's side remained an inspiration to me even after Alzheimers had totally taken his memory away.
Why? All that remained was his sweetness and generosity. He smiled at everyone. He had a line that he'd always say, "I don't know you, but I'd like to". If anyone dropped something, he'd try to pick it up for them. He asked everyone how they were doing. He still noticed when his nurses were tired or upset and told them to be happy because they were beautiful and wonderful.
He'd lived a long life as a warm, generous person, and at the end of his life, when everything else was taken from him, what remained was that warmth and generosity of spirit.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:58:26pm |
I'm trying to look at Pammie's arguments against the new Park51 imam Adhami. Mostly she goes on and on about Adhami's "ties" to Siraj Wahhaj, consisting mostly of praise Adhami offered for SW as well as the fact the he apparently designed SW's mosque (as an architect).
There's an informative article in WSJ about Wahhaj, which is behind the pay wall, but you can find the full text by searching for the headline "One Imam Traces the Path Of Islam in Black America". He seems to be a shady figure, who was a character witness for the Blind Sheikh. (Pammie et al. emphasize the "unindicted co-conspirator" in WTC 1993 bombings angle, but that's basically nothing as far as I'm concerned; first of all, "unindicted co-conspirator" is basically a weasel term when it applies to someone who doesn't have immunity - have evidence - prosecute!; second, the WSJ gives the name of the list as the list of "unindicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators", so it's not even an u.c. list, strictly speaking). It remains to be seen how this all develops.
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austin_blue Sun, Jan 16, 2011 1:58:47pm |
re: #72 Obdicut
My grandfather on my dad's side remained an inspiration to me even after Alzheimers had totally taken his memory away.
Why? All that remained was his sweetness and generosity. He smiled at everyone. He had a line that he'd always say, "I don't know you, but I'd like to". If anyone dropped something, he'd try to pick it up for them. He asked everyone how they were doing. He still noticed when his nurses were tired or upset and told them to be happy because they were beautiful and wonderful.
He'd lived a long life as a warm, generous person, and at the end of his life, when everything else was taken from him, what remained was that warmth and generosity of spirit.
Mine, too. I've seen it go the other way, though. The mean just get meaner.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:02:27pm |
I wonder why none of these people ever talk about Allahpundit's ENTIRE BLOG that disappeared completely?
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:02:32pm |
There have been epic moments of forgetfulness from a couple Presidents.Clinton lost the nuclear launch codes for months. If he were older at the time would the critics presume AD in the face of contrary reports by multiple Doctors? Perhaps, but only the critics IMO.
"At one point during the Clinton administration, the codes were actually missing for months," retired Gen. Hugh Shelton wrote in "Without Hesitation: The Odyssey of an American Warrior."
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austin_blue Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:04:46pm |
re: #75 Charles
I wonder why none of these people ever talk about Allahpundit's ENTIRE BLOG that disappeared completely?
Because they are Wingnuts?
Just sayin'...
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charlz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:05:37pm |
re: #60 Stanley Sea
I'm reminded of an NPR story I listened to. They polled nurses on how they would choose to die. The surprising answer? Cancer. Reason? Because you have notice, you have a chance to get all your affairs in order, mend the fences that need to be mended, etc.
That would be my choice only if I had the option of assisted suicide at the end. There was an excellent article in _Harper's in Nov 2010_, "A good death: Exit strategies" by William T. Vollmann, prompted by his father's painful death from lymphoma. One of the problems with assisted suicide, however, is that unless you've prepared well in advance by the time you're ready you may be deemed not competent to make that decision.
The blurb for the article is at Vollmann. Only subscribers can see the full article, unfortunately.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:13:06pm |
re: #78 charlz
Thank you, Mr. Vollmann.
/
Related... I told my family physician once (pointing out an elderly/infirmed couple) "If you ever see me like that? Euthanize me at once." He replied (without missing a beat), "Hell, I'll do it right now!"
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:13:31pm |
re: #59 Charles
To cover theirs and Odom's asses, they have made entire blogs vanish . I didn't even know that this was possible in the ages of Google and the way-back machine
It is obvious the the word irony does not exist in their dictionary.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:16:39pm |
Sup. I see there's some major butthurt being directed at Charles on Twitter. Andrew Breibart was having another nervous breakdown early this morning. Then there's the rest of the wingnut dregs.
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austin_blue Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:21:36pm |
re: #81 Gus 802
Sup. I see there's some major butthurt being directed at Charles on Twitter. Andrew Breibart was having another nervous breakdown early this morning. Then there's the rest of the wingnut dregs.
Do you get the feeling that many of them thrive on hate and butthurt? I do.
Any way, I'll BBIAB. I have to get some victuals so that She Must Be Obeyed and I can dine in our usual splendor.
Don't care who wins this Jets/Pats football game, I just want it to be competitive.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:23:37pm |
re: #82 austin_blue
Do you get the feeling that many of them thrive on hate and butthurt? I do.
Any way, I'll BBIAB. I have to get some victuals so that She Must Be Obeyed and I can dine in our usual splendor.
Don't care who wins this Jets/Pats football game, I just want it to be competitive.
There's a question as to whether wingnut-butthurt is genetic or a lifestyle choice. It's a tough call considering the genetic disposition they have towards mental entropy. Perhaps it's a combination of the two.
//
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:26:19pm |
re: #81 Gus 802
Sup. I see there's some major butthurt being directed at Charles on Twitter. Andrew Breibart was having another nervous breakdown early this morning. Then there's the rest of the wingnut dregs.
Little ornery Andy will be even more butthurt if SJ is successful with his next mission from Dog.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:26:34pm |
re: #82 austin_blue
Brady's been sacked three times. I don't recall him being sacked three times in one game, much less in a half.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:28:07pm |
re: #75 Charles
It is a very selective science, Charles.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:40:28pm |
This game is pretty good, but I'd rather sit on the deck and listen to music.
What is up with that!!
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:53:00pm |
re: #88 Stanley Sea
[Video]
This game is pretty good, but I'd rather sit on the deck and listen to music.
What is up with that!!
The thing about that song is that its basically some sleaze ball trying to convince a woman to cheat on her husband, so can't really say I like it.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:54:50pm |
re: #84 Reginald Perrin
Little ornery Andy will be even more butthurt if SJ is successful with his next mission from Dog.
Breitbart is actually pulling the "pony tail insult" thing. Can you imagine that? Trying to insult people for having a pony tail in 2011? It's like a throwback to Archie Bunker days. Of course that's a display of the level of discourse they're only capable of which is flinging high school level insults.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 2:56:55pm |
re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The thing about that song is that its basically some sleaze ball trying to convince a woman to cheat on her husband, so can't really say I like it.
heh
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:02:30pm |
re: #90 Gus 802
Breitbart is actually pulling the "pony tail insult" thing. Can you imagine that? Trying to insult people for having a pony tail in 2011? It's like a throwback to Archie Bunker days. Of course that's a display of the level of discourse they're only capable of which is flinging high school level insults.
Some of our Founding Fathers were "pony tailed". Why does Breitbart hate our Founding Fathers?
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:02:55pm |
re: #91 Stanley Sea
heh
bean spilling time. I left my husband, am getting a divorce, and I am haappyy. I love that song. Just me.
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:05:06pm |
re: #93 Stanley Sea
bean spilling time. I left my husband, am getting a divorce, and I am haappyy. I love that song. Just me.
Well, thats different then. I keep bursting the bubble for couples who never really payed attenion to the lyrics.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:05:57pm |
re: #93 Stanley Sea
bean spilling time. I left my husband, am getting a divorce, and I am haappyy. I love that song. Just me.
{Stanley}
I had a feeling sumpin was up.
Here's wishing you the best, even if you're happy, that's still a difficult situation.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:07:00pm |
re: #90 Gus 802
Breitbart is actually pulling the "pony tail insult" thing. Can you imagine that? Trying to insult people for having a pony tail in 2011? It's like a throwback to Archie Bunker days. Of course that's a display of the level of discourse they're only capable of which is flinging high school level insults.
I don't think he's doing it to needle me, because he has to know it just makes me laugh at him. He's doing it for his 31,000 followers.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:07:34pm |
re: #97 Charles
I don't think he's doing it to needle me, because he has to know it just makes me laugh at him. He's doing it for his 31,000 followers.
For the hur, hur factor.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:08:26pm |
re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, thats different then. I keep bursting the bubble for couples who never really payed attenion to the lyrics.
Funny thing, my housemate's daughter who's in college @ UC Santa Cruz sent me this most excellent mix cd. Included with that song are so many odd choices. The Pina Colada song & J. Giles Centerfold. I'm like wtf? She's a cool kid.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:08:52pm |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:09:55pm |
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:10:10pm |
re: #99 Stanley Sea
Funny thing, my housemate's daughter who's in college @ UC Santa Cruz sent me this most excellent mix cd. Included with that song are so many odd choices. The Pina Colada song & J. Giles Centerfold. I'm like wtf? She's a cool kid.
No Cake?
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:11:09pm |
re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Brady's been sacked three times. I don't recall him being sacked three times in one game, much less in a half.
been picked too....first time in like 4 years
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:12:13pm |
re: #105 albusteve
Long way to go... but the Jets are playing very well.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:13:02pm |
re: #105 albusteve
been picked too...first time in like 4 years
I think he was picked this year by Baltimore on a hail Mary play.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:13:02pm |
re: #106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Long way to go... but the Jets are playing very well.
{{grumble grumble grumble}}
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:13:21pm |
re: #106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Long way to go... but the Jets are playing very well.
hell yes, plenty good enough to win, but I doubt it....Sanchez is not Brady, but he did stay in a ......never mind
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:13:25pm |
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:13:28pm |
re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No Cake?
[Video]
CeeLo, the chick's response, Father Figure, 4 songs by Uncle Kracker, Herbie Hancock & John Mayer & the Pussycat Dolls (I'm leaving out about 10 other wild choices)
KIDS these days! Love em.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:13:54pm |
re: #107 Mr Pancakes
I think he was picked this year by Baltimore on a hail Mary play.
91 days....340some attempts
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:14:08pm |
re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
People have asked me to sing "I honestly love you" at weddings (not for years, but they used to) but when I've asked them to read the lyrics, they kind of changed their minds.
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:14:35pm |
re: #90 Gus 802
Breitbart is actually pulling the "pony tail insult" thing. Can you imagine that? Trying to insult people for having a pony tail in 2011? It's like a throwback to Archie Bunker days. Of course that's a display of the level of discourse they're only capable of which is flinging high school level insults.
That is why it is going to be sofa king easy to pwn little Andy.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:15:15pm |
re: #108 sattv4u2
I picked the Jets. I also picked the Falcons. I thought the Falcons was a much safer pick.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:17:15pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I picked the Jets. I also picked the Falcons. I thought the Falcons was a much safer pick.
Met a couple at church this morning who both had on Steelers shirts. They noticed my Patriots watch and told me they are looking forward to the game next week between the Steelers and Pats
I politely asked them to PLEASE SHUT UP until after 8 tonight!!
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:17:41pm |
re: #93 Stanley Sea
bean spilling time. I left my husband, am getting a divorce, and I am haappyy. I love that song. Just me.
Hopefully he ain't making things too difficult. One thing me and my ex are proud of was our ability to not get lawyers involved.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:18:25pm |
re: #117 sattv4u2
Met a couple at church this morning who both had on Steelers shirts. They noticed my Patriots watch and told me they are looking forward to the game next week between the Steelers and Pats
I politely asked them to PLEASE SHUT UP until after 8 tonight!!
Yea... that was some bad juju.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:18:34pm |
re: #118 goddamnedfrank
Nah, piece of cake. No kiddos. That certainly helps.
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:19:15pm |
And now for something completely different,
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:19:53pm |
DAMMIT ,, 3red and 1 and they didn't make it
I gotta go bite a pillow
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:20:03pm |
BreakingNews
Las Vegas fire department responding to reports of a blaze on 26th floor of Bally's hotel - kntv.com [Link: bit.ly...]
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:20:52pm |
re: #122 sattv4u2
DAMMIT ,, 3r
ed and 1 and they didn't make itI gotta go bite a pillow
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:21:26pm |
re: #122 sattv4u2
DAMMIT ,, 3red and 1 and they didn't make it
I gotta go bite a pillow
Dude... bite a tire not a pillow.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:21:31pm |
re: #118 goddamnedfrank
Muppets that drink whiskey and smoke, truly a different era.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:22:32pm |
re: #124 sattv4u2
Most Pats fans are pillow biters. I get it.
/
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:22:47pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I picked the Jets. I also picked the Falcons. I thought the Falcons was a much safer pick.
Pats/Packers....so far I'm good
picking winners is dumb luck anyway
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:22:53pm |
re: #125 Mr Pancakes
Dude... bite a tire not a pillow.
Tires ,,,,, $150 (+/-) to replace
Pillow ,, $5 to replace
YOU do the math
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:23:12pm |
re: #127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Most Pats fans are pillow biters. I get it.
/
But I thought Green Bay were the packers?
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:23:23pm |
re: #127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Most Pats fans are pillow biters. I get it.
/
[Link: instantrimshot.com...]
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:23:26pm |
Breaking
CNN
Univ Tucson Hospital.
Congresswoman Giffords condition has been upgraded from critical to serious.
Heal well Gabby!
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:23:41pm |
re: #129 sattv4u2
Tires ,,, $150 (+/-) to replace
Pillow ,, $5 to replace
YOU do the math
It was more of a social insight not tied to money.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:24:04pm |
One of my GF's is best friends with Mark Sanchez's Mom. Happy lady these days, no doubt.
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prairiefire Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:26:28pm |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:27:12pm |
re: #135 prairiefire
Glad to hear you are alright.
I got divorced 3 times....had it down to a science
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:28:12pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:28:45pm |
re: #136 albusteve
I got divorced 3 times...had it down to a science
Damn, I don't know how people go through that. I really like being single. Very peaceful, no drama, no fights.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:29:13pm |
re: #136 albusteve
I got divorced 3 times...had it down to a science
Funny, I'm in my own state of mind right now, no doubt. But I'm at the never again point. 2 years and out from now on.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:29:18pm |
re: #136 albusteve
I got divorced 3 times...had it down to a science
It's better to have the marriage side down to a science.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:30:16pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Damn, I don't know how people go through that. I really like being single. Very peaceful, no drama, no fights.
you're right about that....I don't know what got into me, but I need to explain it in my autobiography
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:31:38pm |
re: #140 Mr Pancakes
It's better to have the marriage side down to a science.
I read Zen and the Art Of Marriage....didn't help
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:33:00pm |
re: #137 Mr Pancakes
That sucks... I remember the MGM fire which was brutal.
The fire was reported at 2:47 p.m. It is believed to be contained to one room, county fire spokesman Dan Kulin said.
LV Sun
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:33:05pm |
re: #142 albusteve
I read Zen and the Art Of Marriage...didn't help
Should've read Sun Tzu's The Art of War.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:33:31pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Damn, I don't know how people go through that. I really like being single. Very peaceful, no drama, no fights.
And more sex.
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:34:07pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:34:56pm |
re: #130 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Don't ask... don't tell.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:35:12pm |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:35:38pm |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:37:22pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:37:49pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:41:48pm |
So Stanley......
You don't have to answer this if you don't want to.
Do you guys have kids?
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:41:58pm |
re: #152 Mr Pancakes
Riiight ... just interested you mean.
/
I was at a small party one time, when a greasy, homely guy wanted to pay me to have sex with his wife while he taped it....I looked over to see his greasy, homely wife, clucking away to some stranger and nearly burst out laughing...I passed
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:42:47pm |
re: #153 Mr Pancakes
So Stanley...
You don't have to answer this if you don't want to.
Do you guys have kids?
No kids. No prob.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:44:01pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:44:31pm |
re: #155 Stanley Sea
No kids. No prob.
Cool..... while I'm sure the process won't be pleasant ...... that certainly makes things easier.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:45:37pm |
re: #154 albusteve
I was at a small party one time, when a greasy, homely guy wanted to pay me to have sex with his wife while he taped it...I looked over to see his greasy, homely wife, clucking away to some stranger and nearly burst out laughing...I passed
Sometimes I'm glad I'm antisocial. Yikes! Add that to your autobiography.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:46:00pm |
re: #156 albusteve
does he know you are having an affair with LGF?
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:46:09pm |
re: #157 Mr Pancakes
Cool... while I'm sure the process won't be pleasant ... that certainly makes things easier.
uncontested divorce is so easy a caveman could do it...at least in Michigan, where all my drama took place
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:46:44pm |
re: #159 Stanley Sea
oops, my response went poof. Probably good, I am not going to re-type it.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:47:25pm |
re: #161 Stanley Sea
oops, my response went poof. Probably good, I am not going to re-type it.
no need...back to the game for me
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:51:35pm |
"Three Girls and Their Buddy"
At my dad's church their are three men and a woman who perform together. The name of their group? "Three Hits and a Miss".
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:52:18pm |
re: #162 albusteve
no need...back to the game for me
My apologies to the Jet fans with my premature comment about the Jets kicking ass.... that may have been bad juju.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:58:54pm |
Ha! Jim Hoft's latest is another piece of dim-witted genius.
The photographer who took the picture of the Jumbotron that he lifted off Twitter with no concern for the copyright contacted him and told him he had to take it down. So he calls her a leftist and posts a screenshot of her Twitter page instead (what a dick!), and then plays like it means she was trying to hide the troof!
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:00:58pm |
THIS! Is funny.
[Link: madwalrusinabox.tumblr.com...]
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:03:42pm |
ebertchicago
Note to critics of my twitstream: Life is not a banquet you catered. Here's what I'm serving. Dine here or eat elsewhere.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:04:42pm |
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TedStriker Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:05:37pm |
re: #167 Charles
Ha! Jim Hoft's latest is another piece of dim-witted genius.
The photographer who took the picture of the Jumbotron that he lifted off Twitter with no concern for the copyright contacted him and told him he had to take it down. So he calls her a leftist and posts a screenshot of her Twitter page instead (what a dick!), and then plays like it means she was trying to hide the troof!
What a moronic shithead...
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:07:17pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
[Video]
Click on the Closed caption icon
(wild obedience!)
Palin mind control of the NWO!!11ty
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TedStriker Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:08:42pm |
re: #173 talon_262
Seriously...I have to wonder how Hoft (and his fellow travelers and confederates) can manage to rub two live brain cells together in order to tie their shoes in the morning without chalking up any failures as a "leftist conspiracy!!!11ty".
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:11:49pm |
re: #175 talon_262
Seriously...I have to wonder how Hoft (and his fellow travelers and confederates) can manage to rub two live brain cells together in order to tie their shoes in the morning without chalking up any failures as a "leftist conspiracy!!!11ty".
Thats simple.
They buy slip ons.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:12:43pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
[Video]
Click on the Closed caption icon
(wild obedience!)
Blech. I could only take 5 minutes of that blithering idiot.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:13:19pm |
re: #175 talon_262
Seriously...I have to wonder how Hoft (and his fellow travelers and confederates) can manage to rub two live brain cells together in order to tie their shoes in the morning without chalking up any failures as a "leftist conspiracy!!!11ty".
If that Hoff guy had one more brain cell it would die of loneliness.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:20:34pm |
Dimwit Jim Hoft blames Obama for "Tunisian turmoil":
Thanks Barack… Wikileaks Documents Linked to Tunisian Turmoil
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, January 16, 2011, 5:45 PM
This must be more of that smart power we were promised…
A demonstrator holds a placard reading “Game Over” during a rally in front of the Interior Ministry in Tunis. Tunisia’s ousted president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali was officially swept aside on Saturday and the speaker of parliament named as his interim successor by the country’s Constitutional Council. (AFP/Fethi Belaid)
Officials are blaming the turmoil in Tunisia on revelations from the leaked Wikileaks documents.
Of course, the Obama Administration did nothing to prevent the greatest mass leak of security documents in US history.
FOX News reported...
I'll take that as an endorsement -- by Jim Hoft -- of the "authoritarian and undemocratic" regime of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali. A country which ranked "144th out of 167 countries" under authoritarian regimes. Does this bird brain realize what he's saying here?
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:27:30pm |
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Interesting Times Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:29:12pm |
re: #180 Gus 802
I'll take that as an endorsement -- by Jim Hoft -- of the "authoritarian and undemocratic" regime of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali. A country which ranked "144th out of 167 countries" under authoritarian regimes. Does this bird brain realize what he's saying here?
Entirely consistent with others on the radical right who drool over Putin and Pinochet.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:33:00pm |
re: #183 publicityStunted
Entirely consistent with others on the radical right who drool over Putin and Pinochet.
And would love to repeat Argentina's dirty war here as well.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:36:06pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:43:57pm |
Interesting thought - if the Jets & Packers win next week, that would be the first Super Bowl meeting between 6th seeds.
But first there is a more important game in Chicago to make the series 1-1.
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JAFO Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:47:24pm |
The AP is reporting that Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier has returned to Haiti after nearly 25 years. Hmmmmm....
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:48:17pm |
re: #183 publicityStunted
Entirely consistent with others on the radical right who drool over Putin and Pinochet.
Someone needs to explain to me how Obama could have stopped Wikileaks. Especially when they were and are already located throughout the world on different servers. But, I guess when someone sees Leprechauns like Hoft anything is possible.
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JAFO Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:48:54pm |
The AP is reporting that Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier has returned to Haiti after nearly 25 years in exile. Hmmm...
pimf
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charlz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:53:17pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
Someone needs to explain to me how Obama could have stopped Wikileaks.
He should have personally redesigned US government classified communications networks, of course!
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:57:24pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
Someone needs to explain to me how Obama could have stopped Wikileaks.
He should have incarcerated in Fema camps, everyone involved with Wikileaks
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:58:57pm |
re: #192 Reginald Perrin
He should have incarcerated in Fema camps, everyone involved with Wikileaks
Yeah. Or you know those guys. They probably think we should have BOMBED the Wikileaks server location in Sweden.
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Obdicut Sun, Jan 16, 2011 4:59:20pm |
re: #192 Reginald Perrin
He should have incarcerated in Fema camps, everyone involved with Wikileaks
Before they were involved, too. Using the same crystal ball that would be used to determine which mentally unstable people will become violent.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:04:40pm |
re: #195 Obdicut
Before they were involved, too. Using the same crystal ball that would be used to determine which mentally unstable people will become violent.
Dey tuk er jobs!
/
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austin_blue Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:07:45pm |
Damn good football game! I like the idea of Jets/Stealers. Smash mouth football. Packers/Bears has promise, too.
Cooking beef stroganoff. Or, if you are into the menu of rude food (creamed corn, kumquats). beef strokinoff.
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Buck Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:08:12pm |
re: #193 Stanley Sea
Ha!
I don't know... if you really look at it, you will see the targets are pinpointed by filled in circles that have a cross on them. No gunsight I ever saw had a filled in center that you could not actually see through.
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KenJen Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:12:19pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:15:02pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:22:48pm |
re: #199 Buck
I don't know... if you really look at it, you will see the targets are pinpointed by filled in circles that have a cross on them. No gunsight I ever saw had a filled in center that you could not actually see through.
So Palin's own words that those are "bulleyes" are not enough for you?
[deleted]
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:25:15pm |
re: #72 Obdicut
Uncle was like that too. Warm, generous & helpful when everything else was gone.
For those new to facing this challenge, the book "The 36 Hour Day" has made a HUGE difference in my life. I highly recommend it. Written for families facing this challenge & how to deal with it, in a loving way.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:29:45pm |
re: #72 Obdicut
My grandfather on my dad's side remained an inspiration to me even after Alzheimers had totally taken his memory away.
Why? All that remained was his sweetness and generosity. He smiled at everyone. He had a line that he'd always say, "I don't know you, but I'd like to". If anyone dropped something, he'd try to pick it up for them. He asked everyone how they were doing. He still noticed when his nurses were tired or upset and told them to be happy because they were beautiful and wonderful.
He'd lived a long life as a warm, generous person, and at the end of his life, when everything else was taken from him, what remained was that warmth and generosity of spirit.
My mother-in-law was like that. She didn't recognize my sons when they came to visit her, but she knew they were important to her and they all laughed and had a good time.
My dad, though, was alert to the very end.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:31:30pm |
re: #209 Alouette
My mother-in-law was like that. She didn't recognize my sons when they came to visit her, but she knew they were important to her and they all laughed and had a good time.
My dad, though, was alert to the very end.
My grandma got very delusional at the end, but she was still basically herself--interested in animals, charming.
She mistook me for my mother, frequently, since I was visiting her with my father, and she got confused when people addressed me by name, since it was her mother's name.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:33:03pm |
re: #199 Buck
Come on, Buck. Sarah Palin herself has already described those symbols as bullseyes. Give it up.
On another note, even though we disagree on almost everything lately, I do want to thank you for tweeting today to Breitbart and his goons that I never accused Palestinians of cannibalism. It's irritating to see these idiots just blithely spreading such a nasty lie, so thanks for chiming in.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:33:43pm |
Big Drudge headline: HU QUESTIONS FUTURE OF DOLLAR
Chinese President Hu Jintao emphasized the need for cooperation with the U.S. in areas from new energy to space ahead of his visit to Washington this week, but he called the present U.S. dollar-dominated currency system a "product of the past" and highlighted moves to turn the yuan into a global currency.
The wingnuts never get tired of this nonsense.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:33:58pm |
re: #211 Charles
Come on, Buck. Sarah Palin herself has already described those symbols as bullseyes. Give it up.
On another note, even though we disagree on almost everything lately, I do want to thank you for tweeting today to Breitbart and his goons that I never accused Palestinians of cannibalism. It's irritating to see these idiots just blithely spreading such a nasty lie, so thanks for chiming in.
The thing is, I can't imagine Breitbart objecting if one of his current friends wrote NOW that Palestinians were cannibals, so why should it be an issue at all?
///
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:33:59pm |
re: #209 Alouette
My brother-in-law's grandmother barely recognized her grandchildren let alone her great grandkids. She remained pleasant to everyone.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:34:58pm |
It's a little slow in here today. Are tight panted men playing with a ball on TV again?
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Buck Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:35:08pm |
re: #205 Sergey Romanov
So Palin's own words that those are "bulleyes" are not enough for you?
[deleted]
No, I just think that there is a difference between bullseyes and gun sights.
Bullseyes are ok right? I mean the Dems used bullseyes a couple of times.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:35:23pm |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
It's a little slow in here today. Are tight panted men playing with a ball on TV again?
I'm not on TV.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:35:43pm |
re: #214 PhillyPretzel
My brother-in-law's grandmother barely recognized her grandchildren let alone her great grandkids. She remained pleasant to everyone.
There's a core personality that seems to continue to operate even when memory isn't working. At least with a lot of people.
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charlz Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:36:06pm |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
It's a little slow in here today. Are tight panted men playing with a ball on TV again?
I only watch for the bing.com commercials.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:37:28pm |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
Big Drudge headline: HU QUESTIONS FUTURE OF DOLLAR
The wingnuts never get tired of this nonsense.
Guess this means that Drudge will once again try to "single-handedly" take down the dollar for rest of the week. Of course you know that the wingnuts would like nothing better than to see the demise of the dollar.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:38:26pm |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
It's a little slow in here today. Are tight panted men playing with a ball on TV again?
The spandex and pig skin sporting event.
//
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:38:34pm |
re: #220 Gus 802
Guess this means that Drudge will once again try to "single-handedly" take down the dollar for rest of the week. Of course you know that the wingnuts would like nothing better than to see the demise of the dollar.
Ron Paul!
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:40:47pm |
re: #222 Killgore Trout
Ron Paul!
Gold and survival seeds unused are gold and survival seeds wasted.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:40:53pm |
re: #216 Buck
No, I just think that there is a difference between bullseyes and gun sights.
Bullseyes are ok right? I mean the Dems used bullseyes a couple of times.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Not longer minusing you today since you helped Charles, but you're missing the point. Palin's words show it's not a surveyor's mark or anything like that. That she called the gunsight a bullseye is another matter. It's certainly not a classic bullseye. That it is not transparent is hardly relevant - nobody aimed for accuracy.
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JAFO Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:41:27pm |
Scope reticles.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:41:54pm |
[Link: news.blogs.cnn.com...]
Is this not the guy that came within a whisker of getting invaded by the US under Clinton? My god this could make things far worse there.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:41:54pm |
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Buck Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:45:52pm |
re: #211 Charles
Come on, Buck. Sarah Palin herself has already described those symbols as bullseyes. Give it up.
On another note, even though we disagree on almost everything lately, I do want to thank you for tweeting today to Breitbart and his goons that I never accused Palestinians of cannibalism. It's irritating to see these idiots just blithely spreading such a nasty lie, so thanks for chiming in.
You are welcome. It is another thing I am very sure of. Frankly you were accused of much worse back then. It was then that I took up the passion of correcting people when they made wild accusations.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:46:30pm |
Stormfront Nazis are warming up to glenn Beck,,,,
Glenn Beck profiles Jewish mind-manipulators
As close as you can get to naming the Jew without actually naming the Jew I guess.
Bingo!
/Soros!
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:46:49pm |
re: #229 Varek Raith
Obviously photoshopped.
/
That's what the brain surgeon said when he saw a brain scan of Jim Hoft's brain.
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:48:51pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:51:56pm |
re: #198 austin_blue
Damn good football game! I like the idea of Jets/Stealers. Smash mouth football. Packers/Bears has promise, too.
I hope the Jets beat the Squealers but they probably won't. Bears vs. Packers..... good old fashion Black and Blue division match-up!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:52:43pm |
re: #213 SanFranciscoZionist
The thing is, I can't imagine Breitbart objecting if one of his current friends wrote NOW that Palestinians were cannibals, so why should it be an issue at all?
Pamela Geller writes much worse than that all the time, and she's a featured contributor at Breitbart's site.
When these people bash me for the "extremism" at LGF back in the day, what they never seem to get is that they're bashing themselves. LGF started to get better when I cleaned out the stables and got rid of THEM, because they sucked.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:54:33pm |
A similar stable cleaning job:
The fifth of Labour of Heracles was to clean the Augean stables. This assignment was intended to be both humiliating (rather than impressive, as had the previous labours) and impossible, since the livestock were divinely healthy (immortal) and therefore produced an enormous quantity of dung. These stables had not been cleaned in over 30 years, and over 1,000 cattle lived there. However, Heracles succeeded by rerouting the rivers Alpheus and Peneus to wash out the filth.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:55:45pm |
re: #231 Killgore Trout
Stormfront Nazis are warming up to glenn Beck,,,
Glenn Beck profiles Jewish mind-manipulators[Video]Bingo!
/Soros!
Edward Bernays - Jewish
Sigmund Freud - Jewish
George Soros - Jewish
Cass Sunstein - Jewish
Plus that SOB Beck is complaining about the development of community health clinics? Did Beck forget about the "good old days" and Cholera, smallpox, typhoid fever, typhus, scarlet fever, tuberculosis, pneumonia, meningitis, dysentery, diptheria, and rheumatic fever?
All thanks to Fox News. Beck is continually brainwashing a significant segment of the US population.
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jaunte Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:56:36pm |
re: #231 Killgore Trout
Stormfront Nazis are warming up to glenn Beck,,,
Glenn Beck profiles Jewish mind-manipulators[Video]Bingo!
/Soros!
Wow, what a load of winking, nudging, dog-whistling mush.
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theheat Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:56:54pm |
re: #236 Charles
Upding because I still clean the stables the old fashioned way, and it sucks. Considering re-routing a river without washing the building and critters away...
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TedStriker Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:56:55pm |
re: #235 Charles
Pamela Geller writes much worse than that all the time, and she's a featured contributor at Breitbart's site.
When these people bash me for the "extremism" at LGF back in the day, what they never seem to get is that they're bashing themselves. LGF started to get better when I cleaned out the stables and got rid of THEM, because they sucked.
They think they're gonna get points for saying that you're a hypocrite for allowing them to stay as long as they did...never mind that the reason for many of them getting the stick from Stinky is that they kept flapping their gums until the ugly came all the way out.
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theheat Sun, Jan 16, 2011 5:58:20pm |
re: #237 Gus 802
My dad still loves that freak, and still calls him "Jeff" Beck. I wonder if Fender will be a new show sponsor?
//
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Kragar Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:00:07pm |
Marine Killed During Training Accident ID'd
The Marines have identified the man who died after his amphibious assault vehicle sank during a training exercise.
An Iraq war veteran, Sgt. Wesley J. Rice, 27, of San Antonio, TX, died on Friday when his AAV sank to the bottom of the Del Mar boat basin at Camp Pendleton, officials said.
He was among six marines who were abroad the vehicle during the exercise. The other five marines were able to make it safely out of the vehicle.
Search and rescue crews worked to pump oxygen into the AAV for Rice who was trapped inside for several hours, according to a spokesperson with the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:00:16pm |
Why Are There So Many Jews In Beck's Rogues Gallery?
January 14, 2011 1:00 am ET by Ned Resnikoff
Glenn Beck has said that "there is no one" more "pro-Jew" than himself, but we've shown that claim to be pretty dubious. Not only has Beck used his show to promote the work of anti-Semitic writers like Eustace Mullins and Elizabeth Dilling, he also flogged anti-Semitic stereotypes during his series of lengthy "reports" on the supposedly shadowy international financier and "puppet master" George Soros. Beck has also repeatedly advanced former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad's claim that Soros was "helped trigger the economic meltdown" of Southeast Asian currencies in 1997 -- which Mahathir had reportedly suggested was part of a Jewish "agenda."
And then there was tonight's episode, the theme of which was that the 20th century should be seen as "the era of the big lie." According to Beck, during the past 100 years a loose association of shadowy figures who believed themselves to be the "intelligent minority" infected the country with their notion that the people are "animals" who can be controlled through propaganda. He further warned that this same elite was leading the modern progressive movement and would similarly seek to manipulate the masses in the twenty-first century.
Continues.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:00:35pm |
re: #241 theheat
My dad stopped listening to Rush Limbaugh because he talked about football. My dad is not a big football fan.
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jaunte Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:01:04pm |
re: #231 Killgore Trout
Bernays used his Uncle Sigmund Freud's ideas to help convince the public, among other things, that bacon and eggs was the true all-American breakfast.
[Link: www.npr.org...]
Looks like it's Cap'n Crunch time for Beck.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:04:41pm |
re: #243 Gus 802
Why Are There So Many Jews In Beck's Rogues Gallery?
January 14, 2011 1:00 am ET by Ned Resnikoff
Glad people are finally noticing. The wall between Beck's crazy theories and classic antisemitism is paper thin.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:04:47pm |
re: #243 Gus 802
Why Are There So Many Jews In Beck's Rogues Gallery?
January 14, 2011 1:00 am ET by Ned Resnikoff
Thanks, I just posted a page, I'll update with that.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:05:36pm |
re: #241 theheat
My dad still loves that freak, and still calls him "Jeff" Beck. I wonder if Fender will be a new show sponsor?
//
Or Gibson perhaps.
[Link: www2.gibson.com...]
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Gus Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:05:39pm |
re: #247 Killgore Trout
Thanks, I just posted a page, I'll update with that.
YW. Looks like the final tally was 8 out of 9. Stormfront of course picked up on this episode as you noted.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:09:45pm |
re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
That was a very sad thing.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:12:56pm |
re: #250 Floral Giraffe
Sure is sad. People forget that just training and being near all that heavy vehicles is dangerous as can be. In the windu to the war to liberate Kuwait, we lost quite a few troops to accidents like this. Rollovers, run overs, crashes. Then you get to the aviation services. Marine air, Air Force etc.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:13:30pm |
re: #251 Rightwingconspirator
Sure is sad. People forget that just training and being near all that heavy vehicles is dangerous as can be. In the windu to the war to liberate Kuwait, we lost quite a few troops to accidents like this. Rollovers, run overs, crashes. Then you get to the aviation services. Marine air, Air Force etc.
Darn it. Wind up not windu
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:14:18pm |
re: #252 Rightwingconspirator
:::passing the white out :::
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:15:49pm |
re: #199 Buck
I don't know... if you really look at it, you will see the targets are pinpointed by filled in circles that have a cross on them. No gunsight I ever saw had a filled in center that you could not actually see through.
You can see through the circles, look at the ones in Florida or NW Pennsylvania, the circles that straddle borders. They aren't 100% transparent, more like 50%, but you CAN actually see through them. Whether they're called targets, bullseyes, reticles, or bomb sights their implication assuredly is not friendly.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:17:54pm |
re: #253 PhillyPretzel
Sometimes I think I should not have a post button anywhere except on the preview. BTW I was able to use the search engine to correct a friend (LWC) who was still thinking Israel bombed the USS Liberty on purpose. The pilots testimony is very compelling.
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Buck Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:18:09pm |
re: #254 goddamnedfrank
You can see through the circles, look at the ones in Florida or NW Pennsylvania, the circles that straddle borders. They aren't 100% transparent, more like 50%, but you CAN actually see through them. Whether they're called targets, bullseyes, reticles, or bomb sights their implication assuredly is not friendly.
They are not supposed to be friendly. The idea was to defeat those targeted people at the voter booths.
Everyone does it, [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:19:52pm |
re: #256 Buck
Does everyone reload instead of retreating?
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TedStriker Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:25:12pm |
re: #245 jaunte
Looks like it's Cap'n Crunch time for Beck.
More like Cocoa Puffs (as in Beck's cuckoo for)...
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:28:11pm |
re: #259 Stanley Sea
Well, the true ladies do!
LOL!
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:30:23pm |
re: #259 Stanley Sea
Fuck yeah!
Wait until you get to be my age, I now have to make a tactical retreat because it takes so long to reload.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:31:00pm |
re: #256 Buck
"Everybody does it" has a couple problems. First, it shows no proportion. Second, it doubles the point made. Both sides engaging in gun style rhetoric is just twice the reason to put a voluntary stop to it. And then we have the horrid "2nd Amendment solution" crap with a legally elected legit administration in office.
Buck, imagine the shit storm if we had heard a lot of that 2nd Amendment stuff after GWB was re-elected.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:31:05pm |
re: #262 Reginald Perrin
all the more fun. glass half full & all that!
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:32:10pm |
re: #263 Rightwingconspirator
"Everybody does it" has a couple problems. First, it shows no proportion. Second, it doubles the point made. Both sides engaging in gun style rhetoric is just twice the reason to put a voluntary stop to it. And then we have the horrid "2nd Amendment solution" crap with a legally elected legit administration in office.
Buck, imagine the shit storm if we had heard a lot of that 2nd Amendment stuff after GWB was re-elected.
The best comparison is to wonder if a, dog forbid, Muslim American did the same shit.
Bullshit defense.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:41:46pm |
re: #265 Stanley Sea
The best comparison is to wonder if a, dog forbid, Muslim American did the same shit.
Bullshit defense.
Not totally sure that model works either, though, since we've got all these folks with the hysterical and over-the-top reaction to anything done by a Muslim. ("Good morning!" What did he mean by that? It's Islamist supremacist code for somethin'!)
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:43:37pm |
re: #264 Stanley Sea
all the more fun. glass half full & all that!
Reminds me of an old joke.....
A guy was sun bathing nude and ended up with a sunburned one eyed trouser snake.
Seeking relief, he dipped it into a glass of cold milk. His girlfriend walks in and says, "I always wondered how guys reloaded ".
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SilentAlfa Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:44:19pm |
re: #265 Stanley Sea
The best comparison is to wonder if a, dog forbid, Muslim American did the same shit.
Bullshit defense.
if a muslim american said he loved america he really means taht he wants to destroy america and usher in a new world caliphate
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Stanghazi Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:48:26pm |
re: #268 SilentAlfa
if a muslim american said he loved america he really means taht he wants to destroy america and usher in a new world caliphate
Sadly true to the baggers, and Ms. Harpy.
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Buck Sun, Jan 16, 2011 6:53:10pm |
re: #257 Reginald Perrin
Does everyone reload instead of retreating?
no some say they will bring a gun to a knife fight. or punish enemies.
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Buck Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:03:45pm |
re: #263 Rightwingconspirator
"Everybody does it" has a couple problems. First, it shows no proportion. Second, it doubles the point made. Both sides engaging in gun style rhetoric is just twice the reason to put a voluntary stop to it. And then we have the horrid "2nd Amendment solution" crap with a legally elected legit administration in office.
Buck, imagine the shit storm if we had heard a lot of that 2nd Amendment stuff after GWB was re-elected.
We did. The daily gwb was the unelected president?
the war criminal, anti war protests?
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Obdicut Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:12:30pm |
re: #271 buck
You can't simply declare things equivalent, Buck. It doesn't work that way.
Yes, calling him a war criminal was a heavy, stupid charge to make. But it's a legal charge. It has nothing to do with advocating armed insurrection.
You are comparing wanting Bush arrested, to wanting people to violently overthrow the government. Even you can't honestly find those two things equivalent.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Jan 16, 2011 9:34:46pm |
re: #29 Renaissance_Man
This is what really bothers me about the MyFace generation. With Facebook and Twitter, people grow up terrified of any moment alone with their own thoughts. They have to be connected to someone else at every single moment. Even when talking to someone face to face, which would generally qualify as human connection, they think nothing of texting, checking Facebook, tweets, or anything like that, while very vaguely listening to the person they're talking to. They just cannot function unless they can read regurgitations of other people's thoughts, every minute of every day. And they absolutely cannot bear any time to think to themselves.
This connectivity would be one thing if it were enabling us to share thoughts and information and thus come up with a gestalt greater than the sum of the individual parts. It is early days, but that is manifestly not the case so far.
Amen. I don't "tweet", or "twit" as I call it. I'm not on Facebook. I use my cell phone as--a phone. I don't even know how to text (if you want to tell me something, talk to me). I don't mind time alone. I try hard to avoid boring people with the minutiae of my everyday existence. And very often, when I have an original thought (or what I think is original), instead of retching it out to the immediate world, I write it down, then come back to it later to see if it's as good as I thought (usually not!).
Apparently, I am a dinosaur.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Jan 16, 2011 9:57:24pm |
re: #248 Mr Pancakes
Or Gibson perhaps.
[Link: www2.gibson.com...]
If it's Glenn Beck, then Mel Gibson is an obvious sponsor.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 17, 2011 7:54:55am |
re: #199 Buck
I don't know... if you really look at it, you will see the targets are pinpointed by filled in circles that have a cross on them. No gunsight I ever saw had a filled in center that you could not actually see through.
By the way, Buck, your argument about filled in circles is shot down by this map:
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Buck Mon, Jan 17, 2011 8:30:32am |
re: #275 Sergey Romanov
By the way, Buck, your argument about filled in circles is shot down by this map:
Sure, but it is not the map/graphic everyone is freaked about.
Look, you can say anything you want. You can see what ever you want. However it does look like you are being biased when you ignore Democratic use of violent rhetoric and are only outraged by SarahPac.
Of course when the Democratics are in power there is a lot less 'anti-government' and targeting of political opponents. However it is still there. It was used very heavily during the Bush administration. The only difference was that there was a lot less whining about it.
IMO, there is balance, it just doesn't happen at exactly the same time, and is not exactly the same words.
Imagine a movie coming out next year that calls itself a documentary and infers that Obama and his family are conspiring with terrorists? Oh ya... they tried that... Well they did it to Bush as well.
What about a "investigative report" from a network that makes up evidence to slander GWB, just before an election? I mean Dan Rather and Eason Jordan were huge towering media giants who were against Buish, and they proved to be biased and liars.
Don't like the racism you see directed at the President? Well a few years ago it was directed at Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. It was the most appalling racial slurs and epithets. It was reported here, of course, and it came from the left.
Again, it is a timing issue. During Republican administrations the hate filled rhetoric comes from the left. AND when there is a Democratic administration .....Same shit different pile.
You are looking for the exact same rhetoric, and it has to be at the same time. Impossible. And not relevant.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 17, 2011 8:33:12am |
re: #276 Buck
Look, you can say anything you want. You can see what ever you want. However it does look like you are being biased when you ignore Democratic use of violent rhetoric and are only outraged by SarahPac.
That's not what's happening. You're ignoring that, for example, you're comparing the charge that Bush is a war criminal-- a legal charge of malfeasance-- to the charge that Obama is actively attempting to destroy the United States, and that 2nd amendment remedies may be necessary to stop him.
It is very, very rare that two sides on an issue are actually equivalent. That you constantly assume they are is the major, gigantic, and highly visible defect in your logic.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 17, 2011 8:40:31am |
re: #276 Buck
Sure, but it is not the map/graphic everyone is freaked about.
Uh, are you saying that this map is irrelevant to interpreting the similar map from the same site?
Look, you can say anything you want. You can see what ever you want. However it does look like you are being biased when you ignore Democratic use of violent rhetoric and are only outraged by SarahPac.
Biased or not, but I don't buy the notion that Rs and Ds are equivalent in this sense. They pander to different cultures. So when Ds have a map with bullseyes and Rs have a map with gunsights (and creepy slogans), yes, it's different, especially if the R say something like "don't retreat, RELOAD" and hint at revolution and 2nd amd remedies.
Imagine a movie coming out next year that calls itself a documentary and infers that Obama and his family are conspiring with terrorists? Oh ya... they tried that... Well they did it to Bush as well.
What mainstream movie would that be?
What about a "investigative report" from a network that makes up evidence to slander GWB, just before an election? I mean Dan Rather and Eason Jordan were huge towering media giants who were against Buish, and they proved to be biased and liars.
So now it's CBS that made up evidence, instead of unknown persons who deceived them?
Don't like the racism you see directed at the President? Well a few years ago it was directed at Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. It was the most appalling racial slurs and epithets. It was reported here, of course, and it came from the left.
I will be grateful for links.
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Buck Mon, Jan 17, 2011 9:24:44am |
re: #278 Sergey Romanov
What mainstream movie would that be?
The one that ties the Bush family to the bin Ladens? Also tying them to the Saudi Royal family? I mean it sort of inferred more than just bowing...
Fahrenheit 9/11 .... Did ya see it?
So now it's CBS that made up evidence, instead of unknown persons who deceived them?
Ya, you see that is where you fall down. Dan Rather said on TV that he knew for sure where the document originated from. He tried to use the trust he had built up to over the years to put aside any questions. He lied. (I can't believe we are discussing this).
I will be grateful for links.
Fine, here is a search of this site for the words "lefty blogs".
It is a really good snapshot of some of the hate filled rhetoric that was directed at the previous administration.
Also See a search of "the Protocols of Daily Kos"
What about a rhetoric so hatefilled, and so prevelant that they gave it a name? "Bush Derangement Syndrome"
Again, after you do the search you have to start at the bottom to see what the left was saying about the right during the Bush Administration.
Also remember the internet amplifies this stuff, and as the internet grows it looks like there is more out there. The internet of 2004 was used very differently than today.
I am trying to walk a line here. I remind you that I am saying that during a Republican administration the Left fires the most hateful rhetoric, and during a Democratic administration the right does. Not "word for word the same", that is a stupid standard. Not at the exact same time, that would also be dumb.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jan 17, 2011 9:51:17am |
re: #279 Buck
I am trying to walk a line here.
You must have one leg shorter than the other, because you keep going around and around in circles.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 17, 2011 10:06:56am |
re: #279 Buck
The Bush family really is tied to the Bin Ladens. Osama Bin Laden is a black sheep of the Bin Laden family. And the Bush family really is tied to the House of Saud. That isn't made up at all.
What you were asked for was to provide links to racist comments about Powell and Rice. You didn't do that. There certainly were terrible things said about them, but it was in no way equiavlent to what is directed at the President.
Your only argument is one of assertion. You repeat, over and over, that the amount of vitriol and hate are equivalent. You have nothing to support this idea, and it is an idea that is amazingly unlikely simply statistically.
Similarly, you defend Palin's use of 'blood libel' and call people attacking her for using it 'assholes'-- which, ironically, means that you're calling a large number of rabbis assholes. Fun!
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Buck Mon, Jan 17, 2011 10:42:49am |
This was in the "lefty blogs" list.
You might want to start your collection of screen shots. It might get difficult to find links six to seven years from now that are still active. I know I am having that difficulty. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
A Wisconsin radio host refuses to apologize for calling Condoleezza Rice an “Aunt Jemima.”
Also, I have a history of not knowing which sites can be linked to. So here is a simple google search.
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Buck Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:01:23am |
Why the Crass Remarks About Rice?
Crass is a nice way to say racist.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:04:51am |
re: #283 Buck
Yep. Racist remarks were made about Rice. And about Powell.
They simply aren't the equivalent to the torrent of racism we've seen against Obama. Certainly nothing approaches the stupidity and racism of the 'birther' smear, which is horrifingly wide-spread on the 'right'.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:10:46am |
re: #283 Buck
Do you have anything to show that it was part of an organized effort by the Democratic Party?
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Interesting Times Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:12:27am |
re: #284 Obdicut
Yep. Racist remarks were made about Rice. And about Powell.
Conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh Monday strongly defended his recent remark that Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama largely because of race, and lashed out at members of the media and Democrats for appearing to take issue with his comment.
Oh, but that doesn't count /
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Buck Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:26:03am |
re: #286 publicityStunted
Oh, but that doesn't count /
Of course it counts.... that is MY point. Are you really not reading anything I write?
It is the left that is saying these sort of comments don't count (if they originate from the left).
As to being organized by the democratic party.... Remember Howard Dean... He became the DNC Chair soon after this fundraiser:
So there were no TV cameras last Monday night when pro-Dean comics took the stage on West 18th St. in Chelsea at a $250-a-head Dean fund-raiser (reduced from $500) and competed to see how often they could use the F-word in the same sentence.
Comic Judy Gold dissed President Bush as “this piece of living, breathing s—-” and Janeane Garofalo ridiculed the Medicare prescription-drug bill that Bush had just signed as the “you can go f—- yourself, Grandma” bill.Just a few days before, rival John Kerry had used the F-word to attack Bush in Rolling Stone magazine in an apparent bid to sound hip, but Dean’s event was “enough to make John Kerry blush,” as rival Dick Gephardt’s spokesman Erik Smith tartly put it.
And the Dean event got a lot worse. Comedian David Cross used the N-word for blacks in a disjointed “joke” apparently based on the premise that it’s fine for a pro-Dean comic to use racial epithets as long as the goal is to claim Republicans are racists.
Comic Kate Clinton evoked Michael Jackson (hit with new child-sex-abuse charges) and said: “Frankly, I’m far more frightened of Condoleezza Rice” - the Bush national security adviser who has nothing in common with Jackson except being black.
Rice seems to drive liberal woman comics especially nuts. Sandra Bernhard insulted her in racial terms with a “Yes Massa” accent at another Dean fundraiser the same night. Perhaps the pro-Dean comics find it unbearable that the most powerful black woman in U.S. history, close friend to the president and his wife - and a brilliant classical pianist to boot - dares to be a Republican.
Actually, there was something to offend everyone. Dean rival Joe Lieberman got ridiculed for being unable to campaign on Jewish holidays because he’s Orthodox. Vice President Dick Cheney was accused of talking “like Mary Jo Buttafuoco.”
I can't possibly be expected to show a link to every example out there. Many links are dead now, seven years later...
I was around then, and I was actively aware of this. As was our host, and many others.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:30:26am |
re: #287 Buck
It is the left that is saying these sort of comments don't count (if they originate from the left).
Except you're lying, because nobody is saying that. WHat people are saying is that there isn't an equivalent amount of these comments coming from 'the left'-- and they're right.
The only reason you believe that they are equivalent is because you desperately want to believe it.
Just as the only reason you believe the people who are attacking Palin over her use of the term 'blood libel' are 'assholes' is because you desperately need to believe that.
It doesn't appear to matter to you that you're calling many, many devout Jews 'assholes' in the process.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:36:55am |
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Interesting Times Mon, Jan 17, 2011 1:07:36pm |
re: #288 Obdicut
Except you're lying, because nobody is saying that. WHat people are saying is that there isn't an equivalent amount of these comments coming from 'the left'-- and they're right.
Nor is there, in at least the last two decades, anything close to an equivalent of this:
- abortion clinic bombings
- Oklahoma City
- the attack on the 1996 summer Olympics in Atlanta
- the Tennessee church shootings (by someone who "blamed liberals" for the country's problems)
- that white supremacist whackjob who posted at freerepublic and then shot up the Holocaust museum
- another white supremacist whackjob who killed police officers in Philadelphia, allegedly because they were "coming to take his guns"
- the leaking of the names of 1300 Hispanic Utah residents because there were "illegals"
- Scott Roeder
- the Tides Foundation shooter, who outright said he was "inspired by Glenn Beck"
In fact, pointing out all the so-called "Bush hate" on the left only serves to underscore the obvious - if it was "just as bad" as what's done by the right, where was the homegrown anti-government violence that even came close to what happened during Clinton's term?
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