Why Does the GOP Hate Clean Air?

EnvironmentJanuary 2011 • Views: 28,833

The Republican Party isn’t only planning to block climate change rules put into effect by the Obama administration; they’re also targeting the 40-year old Clean Air Act.

Ed Whitfield (R-KY) thinks that some dirty air is okay and is not afraid to say so. In a recent interview with National Journal Daily, the coal state Republican talked about his desire to roll back provisions of the Clean Air Act, saying:

This is a much broader issue than the health of the American people and lungs and emphysema; it’s how can we balance that in the global marketplace for jobs.

Your lungs or your job. Is that the trade-off that Whitfield is asking American voters to accept? There likely wouldn’t be many takers.

Whitfield says that he wants to re-debate the wisdom of the Clean Air Act and hammer home the idea�that the clean air rules are hampering the economy.

Ever since I’ve been in Congress, various groups on the business side, those entities that are creating jobs out there, have felt that the Clean Air Act is really—that�there are all sorts of presumptions in favor of the environmentalists….they feel very strongly and we feel very strongly as members that we need to revisit the Clean Air Act.

It is quite telling—and a bit scary—that Whitfield describes strong clean air protections as “presumptions in favor of environmentalists.” Are we to believe no one else really wants clean air?

The Clean Air Act, which President Nixon signed into law 40 years ago, passed Congress by a vote of 374-1 in the House and 73-0 in the Senate. You cannot get much more bipartisan than that.

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75 comments

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:34:54am

why is it that fallout 3 is beginning to feel more and more like a training sim than a video game?

Kragar Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:35:00am

You fucking bastards.

Kragar Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:36:03am

Signed into law by Nixon, and well all know what a tree hugging hippy liberal Nixon was.

Stanghazi Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:36:30am

The Clean Air Act, which President Nixon signed into law 40 years ago, passed Congress by a vote of 374-1 in the House and 73-0 in the Senate. You cannot get much more bipartisan than that.

I yearn for the good ole SANE days.

Kid A Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:37:15am

"This is a much broader issue than the health of the American people and lungs and emphysema; it’s how can we balance that in the global marketplace for jobs."

"...they feel very strongly and we feel very strongly as members that we need to revisit the Clean Air Act."

This is tame compared to what else is coming.

## Head bangs against wall ##

Interesting Times Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:38:15am

This is a much broader issue than the health of the American people and lungs and emphysema; it’s how can we balance that in the global marketplace for jobs.

Yeah! Let's scrape by at third-world wages while our lungs look like this! FREEDOM!!11!!1!

Michael McBacon Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:38:34am

Be a man and get that asbestos in ya!
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:38:54am

i foresee a return of the commercials that say "CO2 some call it pollution, we call it life"

lawhawk Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:39:17am

Repeated for emphasis:

The Clean Air Act, which President Nixon signed into law 40 years ago, passed Congress by a vote of 374-1 in the House and 73-0 in the Senate. You cannot get much more bipartisan than that.

Nixon not only established the Clean Air Act, but the EPA itself.

Rolling back environmental protections would be insanely stupid and costly - as air and water quality directly affects public health. Improving air quality around the nation can and has reduced exposure to various particulates, including lead (after eliminating lead from gasoline), mercury and other heavy metals from power generating facilities, COx, SOx, and other noxious chemicals that are irritants and can lead to asthma and other respiratory ailments.

The same goes for water protections - and it's cheaper to prevent groundwater contamination than to clean up contaminated water sources.

Randy W. Weeks Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:40:34am

Just...speechless here.

The Clean Air Act would have zero chance of passing today.

argh!!!!

Kragar Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:41:10am

Its almost like the GOP's underlying reasoning for doing this is "Fuck you, that why!"

webevintage Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:41:40am

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You fucking bastards.

yep.

jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:41:49am

If you visit American City
You will find it very pretty...
Just two things of which you must beware
Don't drink the water and don't breath the air!

---Tom Lehrer

webevintage Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:43:25am

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its almost like the GOP's underlying reasoning for doing this is "Fuck you, that why!"

I that is their answer to everything.
That and "SHUT UP! Because we said so, that's why".....

It is just nuts.

Jadespring Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:43:36am

I predict more and more news and radio warnings....

There is an air alert alert across XXX region, stretching for 800 kms. Seniors and any one with respiratory problems such as asthma are advised to stay indoors..."

Oh wait...we already have those. Looking forward to having them everyday. Such fun it will be.

theheat Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:43:38am

And for all those people who pick a "good Republican" here and thee to vote for, all it does is strengthen the position of the Collective. These same "good" Republicans will be supporting these anti-everything pricks at the national convention, because that's what's expected of them. No matter what, they further the cause of something a lot more sinister than little ole them. And that cause shits up and down the rest of us.

I think it's time to label the GOP as a hate group, and there's plenty of evidence to support that claim. Namely, they hate every one and every thing.

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:43:47am

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Signed into law by Nixon, and well all know what a tree hugging hippy liberal Nixon was.

By the current standards of the knuckle-dragging, anti-science, anti-reason crowd that makes up the GOP, Nixon was a tree hugging hippie liberal. Hell, so was Teddy Roosevelt.

It's pathetic, really. You'd think conservatives would want to help conserve the world we live in, but that's apparently too much to ask. =P

jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:44:03am

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Signed into law by Nixon, and well all know what a tree hugging hippy liberal Nixon was.

FEED YOUR HEAD!!!! I'M MEETING YOU HALFWAY HIPPIES!

Ming Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:44:22am

Republicans seem to hate the very green technology that could reduce our dependence on Middle Eastern oil.
I suspect that part of where they are coming from is the desire to be "tough". There's something about exploring for oil, hurting the environment, and fighting wars to keep oil supplies open that appeals to some people. To them, it's "wimpy" to work with others to develop new technologies, and a cleaner environment.

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:45:10am

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its almost like the GOP's underlying reasoning for doing this is "Fuck you, that why!"

That's because it is.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:45:48am

re: #15 Jadespring

I predict more and more news and radio warnings...

There is an air alert alert across XXX region, stretching for 800 kms. Seniors and any one with respiratory problems such as asthma are advised to stay indoors..."

Oh wait...we already have those. Looking forward to having them everyday. Such fun it will be.

Think of all the jobs in the air filter and face mask industry!

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:45:53am

The GOP has gone from conservative to backward to actually evil in such a short time. If you still consider yourself a republican, I suggest you ask yourself when your soul died.

theheat Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:46:31am

re: #22 Fozzie Bear

I'm with LVQ: they are evil.

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:47:24am

re: #19 Ming

Republicans seem to hate the very green technology that could reduce our dependence on Middle Eastern oil.

That's because good, obedient whores don't question their pimps. They just do what they're told. =P

Sorry if that's harsh or offends anyone, but it's pretty much the truth.

Kragar Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:47:28am

re: #21 Alouette

Think of all the jobs in the air filter and face mask industry!

BUY PERRI-AIR!

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:48:29am

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BUY PERRI-AIR!

Designer air!

Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:48:56am

Canned air from Druidia!

lawhawk Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:49:45am

re: #27 oaktree

The GOP has gone from suck to blow.

jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:50:04am

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BUY PERRI-AIR!

Clearly this problem will only be solved when we build a giant spaceship that can turn itself into a huge maid with a vacuum cleaner to fly to other planets and steal their atmosphere....

What, me worry? Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:50:33am

Lessee now. Where can we cut the budget?

Old people - check!
Poor people - check!
The environment - check!

He's just following Bush's example who was quite miserable on the environment.

[Link: www.nrdc.org...]

elizajane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:51:29am

First remove all the environmental regulations and then make sure that 50 million Americans have no health insurance.

The unemployment rate will fall because people will be too sick to work. Or just plain dead.

Big Steve Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:51:36am

So I guess we are now attributing the work of Richard Nixon to be on par with the founding fathers and the constitution and immutably correct just because. The Clean Air has some very positive aspects, some unnecessarily onerous parts, and some glaring holes.

Political Atheist Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:52:54am

re: #19 Ming

It's a perfect storm of stupid. Alternative energy faces all kinds of hurdles from the left as well. Solar Farms? Oh no, there could be an impact on the ground species. Wind farms? Oh no the construction may impact ground species, and birds get killed by the spinning blades.

Nuclear? Oh no, we have no storage for the waste. Yucca Mountain for storage? Oh no there might be a problem in 10,000 years, or a truck might crash on the way. Perfect Catch 22

I do not see how any of this can overcome resistance from both sides of the aisle, I really just do not see it.

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:53:09am

re: #32 Big Steve

And gutting the Clean Air Act fixes those glaring holes how, exactly?

iossarian Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:53:20am

re: #32 Big Steve

So I guess we are now attributing the work of Richard Nixon to be on par with the founding fathers and the constitution and immutably correct just because. The Clean Air has some very positive aspects, some unnecessarily onerous parts, and some glaring holes.

Which is why the GOP will go out of its way to retain the positive aspects of the Clean Air act.

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General Nimrod Bodfish Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:53:55am

re: #17 Lidane

By the current standards of the knuckle-dragging, anti-science, anti-reason crowd that makes up the GOP, Nixon was a tree hugging hippie liberal. Hell, so was Teddy Roosevelt.

I would love to think that if TR was alive, he would have beaten these Republicans over the head with his Big Stick. Sadly, he would be a RINO in today's GOP.

re: #9 lawhawk

Rolling back environmental protections would be insanely stupid and costly - as air and water quality directly affects public health. Improving air quality around the nation can and has reduced exposure to various particulates, including lead (after eliminating lead from gasoline), mercury and other heavy metals from power generating facilities, COx, SOx, and other noxious chemicals that are irritants and can lead to asthma and other respiratory ailments.

The same goes for water protections - and it's cheaper to prevent groundwater contamination than to clean up contaminated water sources.

And the health of the people also directly relates to the productivity of industry/commerce, as with a clean environment, the workforce can get more done and not take as many sick days off, where as if the Clean Air Act was rolled back/repealed, productivity would plummet thanks to a sicker workforce. Why does the GOP hate the workforce? (Rhetorical question)

The GOP is no longer the "Know Nothing" party today, but the "FUCK YOU!" party. Disgusting.

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:54:35am

United States of Exxon!
Fuck yeah!

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:55:37am

The wingnuts over at Hot Air are thrilled the GOP is trying to destroy the environment. It's what the base wants.

jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:57:08am

re: #32 Big Steve

So I guess we are now attributing the work of Richard Nixon to be on par with the founding fathers and the constitution and immutably correct just because. The Clean Air has some very positive aspects, some unnecessarily onerous parts, and some glaring holes.

Care to explain to us what those problems/glaring holes are?

Political Atheist Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:57:14am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

I gues we can call them Hot Dirty Air now. :)

Kragar Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:57:30am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

The wingnuts over at Hot Air are thrilled the GOP is trying to destroy the environment. It's what the base wants.

YAY! WE'LL HAVE JOBS IN THE MINES TILL WE DIE OF THE BLACK LUNG AT 45! HUZZAH FOR THE ECONOMY!

iossarian Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:58:25am

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

YAY! WE'LL HAVE JOBS IN THE MINES TILL WE DIE OF THE BLACK LUNG AT 45! HUZZAH FOR THE ECONOMY!

Can't wait to spend my BlackwaterBucks at the company store!

I heard they're getting in some good quality dogfood this week!

What, me worry? Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:58:28am

re: #34 Lidane

And gutting the Clean Air Act fixes those glaring holes how, exactly?

It's the same BS against welfare. Because of continuing problems, despite Clinton's fixes, people still want to scrap it. And to that, I quote Dr. King.l

"It’s all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps." - Martin Luther King Jr.

Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:58:50am

re: #31 elizajane

First remove all the environmental regulations and then make sure that 50 million Americans have no health insurance.

The unemployment rate will fall because people will be too sick to work. Or just plain dead.

I believe that's called claiming the moral high ground.

And they can top it off by adding health or health insurance -related criteria to the voting requirements. Permanent majority!!!11!!!

lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:58:53am

If all but one Republican voted for the bill, and the president who signed it was Republican, that sounds as if, institutionally, Republicans favor the clean air act.

Apart from this one oddball, does he have a bandwagon? Would repeal pass, if only Republicans got to vote on the question? It might just squeak by if only West Virginia Republicans got to vote on it.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:59:07am

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

YAY! WE'LL HAVE JOBS IN THE MINES TILL WE DIE OF THE BLACK LUNG AT 45! HUZZAH FOR THE ECONOMY!

We'll all earn enough money to pay for our own funerals, so our widows and orphans won't be indentured to the company store! YAAAYY!

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:59:35am

re: #36 commadore183

I would love to think that if TR was alive, he would have beaten these Republicans over the head with his Big Stick. Sadly, he would be a RINO in today's GOP.

So would the real Ronald Reagan, since the only version these idiots seem to recognize is the mythical canonization of St. Ronald of Reagan that has no basis in reality.

Shiplord Kirel Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:00:06am

Time to tell a dirty secret about these people (though it isn't a secret to a lot of folks): I've known a lot of oil execs. I have literally never known one who didn't keep a wet bar in his office and drink on the job. One of these assholes made a point of driving around his neighborhood in his Porsche convertible with a glass of whiskey in his hand, just to flaunt his immunity to the law. They are massive, epic, assholes at a personal level, with very few exceptions, and their involvement in the political process does not bode well for this country.

Jadespring Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:00:21am

Just wanted to point out that this is a particular concern for Canadians as well. Unfortunately there is no such thing as an air barrier at the borders. Where I live in Ontario a good portion of the crap comes up from the south and mixes with our crap. I wasn't exagerating with the 800km wide air quality alerts well maybe by 50 kms. That the extreme end but they do happen. I live about 300 kms from the big city part of Ontario and in the summer the air quality alerts regularly extend to where I live. It's pretty bizzare to be sitting, surrounded by field, forests, lakes and general country beauty and have the radio tell you that if you have asthma you might want to stay inside.

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:01:30am

re: #45 lostlakehiker

If all but one Republican voted for the bill, and the president who signed it was Republican, that sounds as if, institutionally, Republicans favor the clean air act.

Correction -- they favored the Clean Air Act 40 years ago.

These days, you'd be hard pressed to find an elected Republican that's not an anti-science Creationist who thinks that AGW is a hoax, and therefore environmental protections are rubbish.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:02:09am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

Time to tell a dirty secret about these people (though it isn't a secret to a lot of folks): I've known a lot of oil execs. I have literally never known one who didn't keep a wet bar in his office and drink on the job. One of these assholes made a point of driving around his neighborhood in his Porsche convertible with a glass of whiskey in his hand, just to flaunt his immunity to the law. They are massive, epic, assholes at a personal level, with very few exceptions, and their involvement in the political process does not bode well for this country.

I don't think they could get away with that in Saudi Arabia.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:02:21am

The Clean Air Act, which President Nixon signed into law 40 years ago, passed Congress by a vote of 374-1 in the House and 73-0 in the Senate.

Who was the Representative who voted against it?

Shiplord Kirel Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:03:01am

Say what you will about Nixon, but if were president today, he would already have been to Tehran, where he would have shut down their nuclear industry, stolen half the oil, pocketed most of the palace silverware, and left the clueless Ahmedinejad pleased and flattered to have been of service.
/

Kragar Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:03:45am

re: #50 Lidane

Correction -- they favored the Clean Air Act 40 years ago.

These days, you'd be hard pressed to find an elected Republican that's not an anti-science Creationist who thinks that AGW is a hoax, and therefore environmental protections are rubbish.

It's God's Plan, which apparently means he's going back to the Old Testament playbook of plagues and famines. The Evangelicals will be so happy now.

Shiplord Kirel Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:04:45am

re: #51 Alouette

I don't think they could get away with that in Saudi Arabia.

Actually they do. Influential foreigners and the royal family are exempt from alcohol prohibition as long as they don't imbibe in public or provide it to the proles.

Obdicut Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:04:57am

re: #45 lostlakehiker

If all but one Republican voted for the bill, and the president who signed it was Republican, that sounds as if, institutionally, Republicans favor the clean air act.

You have a problem with tenses.

Republicans of today are not the Republicans of yesteryear. Republican elected officials these days are, overwhelmingly, insanely idiotically bad on environmental issues. Aggressively terrible.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:05:57am

What's staggering to me is that these principled Supply-side, Reagonomic, Anti-Keynesian politicians have usually accused their opponents of having fallen for the broken window fallacy. Now they are commiting it themselves by promising jobs through unscrupulous destruction of the environment for profits.

William of Orange Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:05:57am

Lawrence O'Donnell on fire!!

He gives Congress man Trent Franks (R-AZ) an ass whooping!!

Via C & L.

Nail in the coffin:

"I blame the shooter for the first 10 bullets. I blame the law for the next 21."

Bullseye!! (Pun intended...)

lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:06:36am

re: #43 marjoriemoon

It's the same BS against welfare. Because of continuing problems, despite Clinton's fixes, people still want to scrap it. And to that, I quote Dr. King.l

As to bootstraps, the Chinese came in on the very bottom rung. But they are the world champions at coping with and then escaping from poverty, and not just here in the U.S.

Welfare, with its current rules, is more fixed than not. Every one of our institutions has its faults. Those with faults we don't know how to fix without undoing other fixes, we have to muddle through with.

lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:12:54am

re: #50 Lidane

Correction -- they favored the Clean Air Act 40 years ago.

These days, you'd be hard pressed to find an elected Republican that's not an anti-science Creationist who thinks that AGW is a hoax, and therefore environmental protections are rubbish.

AGW isn't the only reason to want environmental protections. AGW has a bit of an abstract and ethereal feel to it. Some Republicans seem to think that anything that's abstract and comes more than a decade later is theology, and usurps God's role. (As if God will do for us the very work he gave us to do, to keep the Earth and tend it.)

But soot, sulfuric acid, etc. is in the here and now. An AGW nonbeliever can still see that lethal fogs, those choking, killing amoeba that used to move across London or Pittsburgh and leave scores of bodies behind, are man's fault and that the law both can and must prevent them.

Get back to me when the Republicans call hearings on repealing the clean air act. I don't imagine that's even a remote possibility.

Obdicut Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:16:58am

re: #60 lostlakehiker

Get back to me when the Republicans call hearings on repealing the clean air act. I don't imagine that's even a remote possibility.

Why on earth do you think that?

BongCrodny Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:19:19am

re: #9 lawhawk

Repeated for emphasis:

Nixon not only established the Clean Air Act, but the EPA itself.

Rolling back environmental protections would be insanely stupid and costly - as air and water quality directly affects public health. Improving air quality around the nation can and has reduced exposure to various particulates, including lead (after eliminating lead from gasoline), mercury and other heavy metals from power generating facilities, COx, SOx, and other noxious chemicals that are irritants and can lead to asthma and other respiratory ailments.

The same goes for water protections - and it's cheaper to prevent groundwater contamination than to clean up contaminated water sources.

I've noticed what seems to be a lot of people with asthma puffers in recent times. I've seen puffers lying about at three different friends' house over the past few weeks.

I know the above is anecdotal, but it's also a rather large subset of said universe.

latitude51 Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:27:48am

Surely their ambition is to wander the political wilderness for forty years. I can't wait to hear their next brilliant idea.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:51:26am

re: #1 Dreggas

why is it that fallout 3 is beginning to feel more and more like a training sim than a video game?

no kidding

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:52:37am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

The wingnuts over at Hot Air are thrilled the GOP is trying to destroy the environment. It's what the base wants.

are we in a pixar cartoon? Are we in some weird psychedelic world where there's a bad guy like Gargamel who wants to eat the sun? :D

Lidane Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:00:31pm

re: #60 lostlakehiker

Get back to me when the Republicans call hearings on repealing the clean air act. I don't imagine that's even a remote possibility.

Because the only way to gut the Clean Air Act is by going for full repeal. I mean, it's not like these GOP assholes can't just find a way to render it useless with legalese and jargon, making it all but impossible to enforce.

Face it-- the Republican party that voted for the Clean Air Act 40 years ago isn't the same one that exists now. The new breed of Republican -- particularly those who hold elective office -- are anti-science, anti-reason, anti-intellectual Creationist nutbars who would rather see this world end so that their God will return and Rapture them while he smites the unbelievers. They don't give a shit about the environment, or about anything that gets in the way of them getting what they want, and to hell with anyone who disagrees.

Robert O. Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:06:27pm

The Republicans are trying to lower our wages and environmental standards to the point where we can start competing with China.... (...cough...and I mean it)

Big Steve Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:10:30pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

Time to tell a dirty secret about these people (though it isn't a secret to a lot of folks): I've known a lot of oil execs. I have literally never known one who didn't keep a wet bar in his office and drink on the job. One of these assholes made a point of driving around his neighborhood in his Porsche convertible with a glass of whiskey in his hand, just to flaunt his immunity to the law. They are massive, epic, assholes at a personal level, with very few exceptions, and their involvement in the political process does not bode well for this country.

This is complete bullshit. I am an oil exec and I don't even drink.

Big Steve Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:14:24pm

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Care to explain to us what those problems/glaring holes are?

Sorry to get back to you late but yes. For example the NESHAPs laws (part of the clean air act) sets individual standards for pollutants. So under NESHAPS for boilers you must put NOx emissions controls in place which actually INCREASE particulate emissions. And yet you are totally 100% in compliance with the laws even though you are increasing particulates.

wrenchwench Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:15:08pm

re: #68 Big Steve

This is complete bullshit. I am an oil exec and I don't even drink.

He said, "...I have literally never known one who..."

It's only complete bullshit if you are known by Shiplord Kirel.

Well?

mikefromArlington Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:46:33pm

These cretins are under some kind of spell from Koch.

Spell = $$$ I think.

nines09 Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:37:41pm

When you ain't got nothing, something, anything looks good. Like This
After the drillers walk away this is going to make acid mine cleanup look like a cakewalk.

garhighway Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:03:00pm

Hypothesis:

The American Petroleum Institute is this century's Tobacco Institute.

Discuss.

boxhead Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:45:52pm

I wish this web site was like Usenet and allowed cross postings. This and two other threads really piss me off in that the GOP displays complete lack of foresight and blatantly ignore good science. the worst part is that I don't know if it is for short term political gain, or are they that stupid/ignorant. I am also at a loss deciding which is worse....

happyface Fri, Jan 21, 2011 3:31:46pm

Less government (regulation) makes for a better regulated government.

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