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1 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:26:16pm

I like "The Beard" myself.

2 mojo9  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:26:33pm

They forgot Buff (big ugly fat fucker).

3 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:27:33pm

Tony Bagels gets my vote

4 mojo9  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:27:55pm

And I wonder how "The Vet" got his name?

5 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:28:11pm

My favorite is “Vinny Carwash.”

Probably owns a car wash thats a front for a chop shop/ gambling joint or something along those lines

I'm partial to "Tony Bagels"

6 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:28:51pm

"Junior Lollipops" all the way.

7 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:29:44pm

re: #4 mojo9

And I wonder how "The Vet" got his name?

With the wise guys, it's always something in their past or a personal quirk or a derivitive of their real name

"the vet" was probably a war veteran

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:31:31pm

Yippie for the FBI! I hope they nail a hundred more.

9 mojo9  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:31:59pm

re: #7 sattv4u2

I dunno, I'd wager it's a bit more nefarious.

10 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:34:39pm

re: #9 mojo9

I dunno, I'd wager it's a bit more nefarious.

nahh,,, I knew a lot of "guys" back in Boston. As stated in #7 many times it's just a personal quirk or a physical feature

11 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:34:39pm

re: #9 mojo9

I dunno, I'd wager it's a bit more nefarious.

He killed a man with horse tranquilizers.

12 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:37:05pm

My mafia nickname: Chuckie Greenballs.

13 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:38:42pm

re: #12 Charles

My mafia nickname: Chuckie Greenballs.

I know a doctor that can prescribe a salve to help you with that!

((don't ask!!))

14 mojo9  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:39:06pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

maybe he's just really good with animals!

15 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:40:31pm

re: #12 Charles

My mafia nickname: Chuckie Greenballs.

My Mafia name is Nicky Greco, aka The Butcher, Baker and Candlemaker

16 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:42:49pm

Ah, the 1950s, when LSD was being tested on housewives as a therapeutic drug, lets watch...

18 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:44:03pm

They always have such great nicknames.

Reminds me of some of the nicknames my friends and I called each other back in the day:
Wild Bill, O.D., Fat Larry, GQ, Chewbacca, Pee Pants, Anglo, Chief 3 Beers, Tripod, Spent Jolly and Treehead to name a few. Introducing new people was always entertaining.

19 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:44:56pm

Stanley Shit

20 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:45:30pm

I have no idea what mine is.

21 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:46:04pm

re: #20 Jadespring

I have no idea what mine is.

Baby Buns

22 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:48:58pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Baby Buns

I think I'll change that to "Cinnamon Buns"

23 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:49:39pm

Heh, typed in one of the stalkers name for their Mafia name;

The Squealer

24 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:50:46pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh, typed in one of the stalkers name for their Mafia name;

The Squealer

Typed in where?

25 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:51:07pm

re: #24 Jadespring

Typed in where?

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

26 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:52:32pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

Cool.

I'm "The Compass"


Sounds sinister...

27 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:52:56pm

Hmmm... I wonder if the sanity & reason police raided FAUX headquarters who'd they find....


GLENN BECK also known as "The Brick."

SEAN HANNITY aka "Sarah O'Toole"

...

28 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:55:01pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

Lol. When I typed in my screen name I'm

Jadespring aka "Sweet Nostrils"

29 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:55:37pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

LOL

The Heartbreaker

30 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:56:09pm

Rightwing extremism? What righwing extremism?


Police Seize ‘Large Amount’ Of Weapons From Blogger Who Praised Gifffords Shooting: ‘1 Down And 534 To Go


“I assert that the US federal gov has grown unconstitutionally large, and the legislature exceeds the powers delegated to it by the people,” Corcoran wrote. “As per the Declaration of Indep, when a gov becomes destructive those ends, it may be abolished,” he continued, “and the most moral approach is that which spares the maximum number of lives. Thus, assasination is a legitimate tool.”

He goes on to further justify assassination as “morally legitimate,” citing “Catholic Just War doctrine” among other theories, and explains, “It’s illegal, yes, but it’s not un-American. America was founded on the idea of shooting gov officials. Lexington Concord!” In another tweet, he writes, “I disagree with murder. …but shooting politicians who pass illegitimate, unconstitutional laws is not murder.” And in case there’s any doubt about his sincery, he writes, “Nope, it’s not a joke. I’m 100% serious.”

He also appears to be a fan of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), re-tweeting a positive message about him in May: “Lefties: Before you start fringe-baiting Rand Paul, note that he’s better on civil liberties than most Democratic senators. And Obama.” He seems to dislike liberals, writing, “You so-called liberals make me laugh – you’re all for free speech until someone disagrees, then it’s ‘report him!’” He also accuses the Daily Kos of “Stalinism.”

31 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:56:28pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

Too much fun.

Sarah Palin = Junior Mint

32 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:57:26pm

Barack Obama = The Pope

33 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:58:24pm

re: #30 Talking Point Detective

Rightwing extremism? What righwing extremism?

Police Seize ‘Large Amount’ Of Weapons From Blogger Who Praised Gifffords Shooting: ‘1 Down And 534 To Go

It seems he got his wish on the following:

“You so-called liberals make me laugh – you’re all for free speech until someone disagrees, then it’s ‘report him!’”
34 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:58:41pm

re: #28 Jadespring

Lol. When I typed in my screen name I'm

Jadespring aka "Sweet Nostrils"

It's a scam

When I typed in my real name I got Sweet Nostrils too

Screename ='s "the lemming"

:(

35 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:59:44pm

Mike Huckabee = The Xerox

hmmm

36 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:59:49pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

Bubblehead II = The Umpire

Fits. If I don't have my glasses on, I am blind

37 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:00:06pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

Too much fun.

Sarah Palin = Junior Mint

Heh...John McCain = "The Stare" (yes, if it's blank and disconnected)

38 Chuckie Greenballs  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:00:10pm

Better watch it. We wouldn't want to see anything happen to this nice little website you got here.

39 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:01:06pm

re: #30 Talking Point Detective

That blog was linked to here at some point. I had wondered if what he was writing might get him some heat.

Guess it did.

40 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:01:22pm

Using my full real 1st name (along with my last name)

The Wishbone!

41 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:01:43pm

re: #38 Chuckie Greenballs

Not sure about this one.

42 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:01:49pm

re: #38 Chuckie Greenballs

Better watch it. We wouldn't want to see anything happen to this nice little website you got here.

Holy crap...there's actually a Chuckie Greenballs out there already?

43 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:02:30pm

Looks like this guy

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

has been busted.

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

44 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:02:31pm

re: #42 darthstar

click his nic

45 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:02:52pm

re: #42 darthstar

Holy crap...there's actually a Chuckie Greenballs out there already?

Stalkers sleeper accounts always at the ready to pounce

46 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:03:28pm

Heh.

47 brownbagj  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:03:32pm

Since I am conservative, my mafia name is:
Shit creek, aka no paddle aka nucking futz

48 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:03:50pm

My mob name is ....


Yeah, you guessed it...

Fetus Inajar.

49 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:04:31pm

re: #48 Jeff In Ohio

Sorry,, but imho thats disgusting!

50 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:05:36pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

You like Hootie better?

You don't have to be sorry about being disgusted. It is disgusting.

51 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:05:41pm
BENJAMIN CASTELLAZZO, also known as "Benji," "The Claw" and "the Fang"

He's both clawed, and fanged.

Are they sure he's not just a cat?

52 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:05:54pm

re: #46 Charles

Heh.


I feel like I just got pwned.

53 brownbagj  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:05:59pm

I was reading a book title "Empire of the Summer Moon" about the rise and fall of the Comanche nation.

They gave each other names like:
Ass smells like scared skunk
Pisses on small trees etc.

Good times.

54 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:07:53pm

'Chuckie' is a test account I've had for a long time.

55 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:08:13pm

My screen name gave me "The Venetian". Spooky, and I love it.

56 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:08:23pm
57 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:08:50pm

re: #52 darthstar

I feel like I just got pwned.

re: #54 Charles

'Chuckie' is a test account I've had for a long time.

Ah,, then it was me that was "pwned"

I took the bait and thought for sure it was a sleeper stalker

58 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:09:17pm

The Librarian

59 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:10:31pm

re: #58 researchok

The Librarian

As in smacks behind the stacks.

60 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:10:51pm

re: #54 Charles

'Chuckie' is a test account I've had for a long time.

And you hook to Kos article. Hmm, fooled here.

61 Neutral President  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:10:55pm

re: #52 darthstar

I feel like I just got pwned.

"Nice try Lao Che!"

Indiana Pwns and the Temple of Noobs.

62 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:11:26pm

Running the same name produced the same output--it's not just random.

63 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:12:52pm

I suddenly realized it probably looked like that, so I'd better come clean, spill my guts, and snitch on Chuckie.

64 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:13:41pm

re: #62 Decatur Deb

Running the same name produced the same output--it's not just random.

But it might be limited

I got the same name as you did on one of them

65 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:13:48pm
66 crimsonfisted  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:15:04pm

Oh my!!!! I am The Bastard

67 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:16:17pm

re: #66 crimsonfisted

Oh my!!! I am The Bastard

darthstar = Frankenberry - I'll take that one. My real name gives me "The Ostrich". Yeah...Frankenberry it is.

68 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:16:37pm
69 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:16:40pm

re: #65 researchok

Google chief's $334 million payday: Update

It's #4 on The Best Companies to Work For list
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

70 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:17:23pm

re: #66 crimsonfisted

Oh my!!! I am The Bastard

I would have thought Pedro Kantor.

71 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:17:26pm

re: #66 crimsonfisted

Oh my!!! I am The Bastard

you seem surprised!

WE could have told you that without the name generator!!
//

72 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:19:54pm

re: #67 darthstar

darthstar = Frankenberry - I'll take that one. My real name gives me "The Ostrich". Yeah...Frankenberry it is.

My real name? The Harpoon.

?

73 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:21:33pm
74 Crimsonfisted  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:22:08pm

Actually my nic is a preeettty good mob name in and of itself.

75 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:22:35pm

re: #73 Conservative Moonbat

Fox News Poll: 8 out of 10 Americans Say Prayer Helped Save Congresswoman Giffords

But that 9 year old girl, God just hated her.

//

That's what bugs me most about the power of prayer stuff.

76 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:23:07pm

re: #73 Conservative Moonbat

Fox News Poll: 8 out of 10 Americans Say Prayer Helped Save Congresswoman Giffords

I'm sure having the best neurosurgeons in the country flown in had nothing to do with it.

78 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:24:56pm

re: #73 Conservative Moonbat

Fox News Poll: 8 out of 10 Americans Say Prayer Helped Save Congresswoman Giffords

LOL...

Meanwhile, 71 percent approve and 10 percent disapprove of Obama’s handling of the Tucson shooting. Nineteen percent are unsure.
79 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:25:47pm

re: #30 Talking Point Detective

Rightwing extremism? What righwing extremism?

Police Seize ‘Large Amount’ Of Weapons From Blogger Who Praised Gifffords Shooting: ‘1 Down And 534 To Go

Heh. Glad that fuck is being watched now. What a dick.

80 brownbagj  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:26:22pm

So, Charles is a sock puppet.

What a sad, sad world.

/

81 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:26:46pm

re: #76 Conservative Moonbat

I'm sure having the best neurosurgeons in the country flown in had nothing to do with it.

and the random factors that caused the bullet not to hit parts of her brain that would have been fatal or lead to some sort of paralysis. Nope those had nothing to do with it, it was all prayer because randomness and chance aren't real.

82 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:26:52pm

We used to give ourselves Bowling Names when we were bowling regularly. My pals were Bo and Thud. I was Louise, until we were joined by a nice young lady named Mary Louise. She was nice about it, but did not ignore it. "Do you think I have a funny name?"

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:33:15pm

I must vote for Junior Lollipops as the best of those.

85 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:33:59pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Outrage!
Ice cleared from outside Obama daughters’ school, but not from public school across the street

I AM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT.

Tucker Carlson, your "non-political" blog is a fucking farce.

86 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:34:18pm

re: #81 Dreggas

and the random factors that caused the bullet not to hit parts of her brain that would have been fatal or lead to some sort of paralysis. Nope those had nothing to do with it, it was all prayer because randomness and chance aren't real.

As well as the fact that he was using FMJ v Hollow Points

87 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:34:42pm

re: #81 Dreggas

and the random factors that caused the bullet not to hit parts of her brain that would have been fatal or lead to some sort of paralysis. Nope those had nothing to do with it, it was all prayer because randomness and chance aren't real.

A world that truly contains strong elements of chance isn't really compatible with a worldview based on a highly active and responsive God, who has a plan.

88 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:34:58pm

re: #18 Amory Blaine

They always have such great nicknames.

Reminds me of some of the nicknames my friends and I called each other back in the day:
Wild Bill, O.D., Fat Larry, GQ, Chewbacca, Pee Pants, Anglo, Chief 3 Beers, Tripod, Spent Jolly and Treehead to name a few. Introducing new people was always entertaining.

Someone once explained--as part of a longer article about naming patterns--that he had three friends named Dave, known as "Tall Dave", "Short Dave" and "Dave the Geek" who was in IT.

89 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:35:09pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

I AM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT.

Tucker Carlson, your "non-political" blog is a fucking farce.

I think the Onion has taken over his brain.

90 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:35:52pm

junior lollipops? haha

91 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:36:39pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

I AM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT.

Tucker Carlson, your "non-political" blog is a fucking farce.

Check out the updates on their bogus pedestrian story....
Highway safety spokesperson blames pedestrian deaths on Michelle Obama’s anti-obesity campaign?
They're sticking to it. Drudge is still linking to the story too.

92 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:36:49pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

Hey, this thing sucks. "The Xenophobe". Better call me... "Commie Czar"! More relevant to the US politics anyway ;-)

93 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:37:16pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Outrage!
Ice cleared from outside Obama daughters’ school, but not from public school across the street

Ha and he also manages to make a comment about how socialism doesn't work, cause no one will clean the ice.

Hee hee. What a knob.

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:37:30pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

We used to give ourselves Bowling Names when we were bowling regularly. My pals were Bo and Thud. I was Louise, until we were joined by a nice young lady named Mary Louise. She was nice about it, but did not ignore it. "Do you think I have a funny name?"

Why Louise?

95 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:38:30pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

We used to give ourselves Bowling Names when we were bowling regularly. My pals were Bo and Thud. I was Louise, until we were joined by a nice young lady named Mary Louise. She was nice about it, but did not ignore it. "Do you think I have a funny name?"


My response would have been
"not at all, but can we discuss your clothes!?!"

96 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:38:33pm

re: #93 Jadespring

Ha and he also manages to make a comment about how socialism doesn't work, cause no one will clean the ice.

Hee hee. What a knob.

Yes. As we all know, the USSR was brought to its knees because nobody would put salt down on the sidewalks.

97 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:38:41pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Outrage!
Ice cleared from outside Obama daughters’ school, but not from public school across the street

At least one of the parents from the public school recognized this as a non-issue:

I don’t know who cleared the Sidwell side, but I know somebody over there understood whose responsibility it was. As far as I can tell, it’s that accountability that was missing on our side of the street,

End of story.

98 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:38:55pm

re: #9 mojo9

I dunno, I'd wager it's a bit more nefarious.

Micheal Vicks Veterinarian???

99 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:39:07pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Outrage!
Ice cleared from outside Obama daughters’ school, but not from public school across the street

"The lack of clarity over who should have done the deed is what leads Wattenberg to this philosophical conclusion:

“The Hearst ice illustrates anew an old problem with socializing responsibility: When everybody’s responsible, nobody’s responsible."

WTF? It was Parks and Rec's job. HE'S the one who suggested the parents should have pitched in. So is HE 'socializing responsibility'?

Pretentious idiot.

100 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:40:37pm

re: #93 Jadespring

Ha and he also manages to make a comment about how socialism doesn't work, cause no one will clean the ice.

Hee hee. What a knob.

BTW, My local grocery store carries quinoa in bulk. Very cheap. I had some for dinner last night and it's very tasty. I'll save some for planting. I'm also going to try some Amaranth to see which grows better for me this summer.

101 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:40:40pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Check out the updates on their bogus pedestrian story...
Highway safety spokesperson blames pedestrian deaths on Michelle Obama’s anti-obesity campaign?
They're sticking to it. Drudge is still linking to the story too.

Even the commenters on the wingnut blogs are calling bullshit on that one.

102 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:40:41pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

Why Louise?

I don't know. It seemed like a good bowling name at the time..

103 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:40:57pm

re: #92 Sergey Romanov

Hey, this thing sucks. "The Xenophobe". Better call me... "Commie Czar"! More relevant to the US politics anyway ;-)

Heh, Typed in my real world name. It came back as the Mad Russian.

104 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:41:02pm

It's 70 degrees today in Half Moon Bay. If I want ice, I have to go push a button on the side of my refrigerator. I can't just walk outside and slip on it. People in DC are so lucky.

105 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:41:07pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

I AM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT.

Tucker Carlson, your "non-political" blog is a fucking farce.

Fucker Carlson is a farce period.

106 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:41:56pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

"The lack of clarity over who should have done the deed is what leads Wattenberg to this philosophical conclusion:

“The Hearst ice illustrates anew an old problem with socializing responsibility: When everybody’s responsible, nobody’s responsible."

WTF? It was Parks and Rec's job. HE'S the one who suggested the parents should have pitched in. So is HE 'socializing responsibility'?

Pretentious idiot.

It's amazing that the party of personal responsibility eschews any hint at communal responsibility, even when the communal responsibility can be easily broken down into the actions of small numbers of individuals.

Clearly, asking people to pitch in and deal with a situation not of any human's making is "socializing". Funny, there is an ordinance in my town that states that the owner of any property within city limits is responsible for the condition of the sidewalk adjacent to the property. Does that mean my town is socialist?

107 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:42:24pm

re: #103 Bubblehead II

Heh, Typed in my real world name. It came back as the Mad Russian.

Grigori, my trusty sideckick, that you?

108 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:42:50pm

Outrage: Obama does not put down the toilet seat! Housekeeper strains her hand putting it down, over and over.

Outrage: Sasha wore red colored hair ties to school. Girl in China wears same red hair ties. Coincidence?

109 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:42:54pm

re: #92 Sergey Romanov

Hey, this thing sucks. "The Xenophobe". Better call me... "Commie Czar"! More relevant to the US politics anyway ;-)

I used my nickname and came back with

The Bastard

using my real name I get

The Ostrich

I like my nickname better anyway

110 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:43:11pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

"The lack of clarity over who should have done the deed is what leads Wattenberg to this philosophical conclusion:

“The Hearst ice illustrates anew an old problem with socializing responsibility: When everybody’s responsible, nobody’s responsible."

WTF? It was Parks and Rec's job. HE'S the one who suggested the parents should have pitched in. So is HE 'socializing responsibility'?

Pretentious idiot.

Going to go out on a limb and say the private school probably has their own staff whose job it is to clear the ice, while the public school has to rely on some city worker to do it.

111 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:43:35pm

Speaking of Russian names: how did 'Natasha' morph into 'Sasha' (i.e. Alexandra)?

112 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:44:10pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

BTW, My local grocery store carries quinoa in bulk. Very cheap. I had some for dinner last night and it's very tasty. I'll save some for planting. I'm also going to try some Amaranth to see which grows better for me this summer.

Cool. I'm going to try Amaranth too because I'm beginning to think it might get too hot for Quinoa.

113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:44:12pm

re: #110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Going to go out on a limb and say the private school probably has their own staff whose job it is to clear the ice, while the public school has to rely on some city worker to do it.

at my school it was the janitorial staffs responsibility to clean the sidewalks.

114 celticdragon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:44:40pm

Cool Mafia name generator here.

Call me "Natalia the Fixer".

115 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:45:02pm

re: #113 Dreggas

at my school it was the janitorial staffs responsibility to clean the sidewalks.

Students, at mine.

116 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:45:53pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Students, at mine.

Well at MY school if the sidewalks didn't shovel themselves, we would stand on them and berate them.

117 celticdragon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:47:11pm

re: #89 Jadespring

I think the Onion has taken over his brain.


Tucker's brain actually became an onion.

Then it sprouted and got little smelly soft patches on it.

118 sagehen  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:47:13pm

re: #4 mojo9

And I wonder how "The Vet" got his name?

my guess:

He's who they go to for medical care (hospitals are supposed to report gunshot wounds); but he's not very good at it.

119 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:47:22pm

re: #116 Fozzie Bear

Well at MY school if the sidewalks didn't shovel themselves, we would stand on them and berate them.

Sidewalks? Luxury, in my day, we had to share the gravel road with oncoming traffic, and we were grateful we could!

120 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:48:59pm

We washed every window in the school every Friday, polished the floors, fed, milked the cows, and pasturized the milk. (In fact we ran the whole freakin farm at the HS level.)

121 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:49:38pm

The season premiere of the pivotal 10th season of Fox’s American Idol fell in the ratings compared to last year.

down 13%...man, they have to get this fixed somehow

[Link: insidetv.ew.com...]

122 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:49:49pm

re: #113 Dreggas

at my school it was the janitorial staffs responsibility to clean the sidewalks.

Wasn't a Union school ...../

123 elizajane  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:49:58pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

We used to give ourselves Bowling Names when we were bowling regularly. My pals were Bo and Thud. I was Louise, until we were joined by a nice young lady named Mary Louise. She was nice about it, but did not ignore it. "Do you think I have a funny name?"

You could have said, "Why, are you implying that Thud has a funny name?"

124 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:49:59pm

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sidewalks? Luxury, in my day, we had to share the gravel road with oncoming traffic, and we were grateful we could!

Sheer opulence! In my day, we didn't have any roads. You had to hire a sherpa to guide you to school, and it took three day to get there. We thought ourselves to be fortunate, as our parents had to ride epileptic legless goats that would randomly vibrate their way across the ground toward school.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:51:57pm

re: #111 Sergey Romanov

Speaking of Russian names: how did 'Natasha' morph into 'Sasha' (i.e. Alexandra)?

No idea. Natasha is a diminutive of Natalia, no?

126 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:52:40pm

re: #124 Fozzie Bear

Sheer opulence! In my day, we didn't have any roads. You had to hire a sherpa to guide you to school, and it took three day to get there. We thought ourselves to be fortunate, as our parents had to ride epileptic legless goats that would randomly vibrate their way across the ground toward school.

You walked to school? You had feet?

You had live goats? With epilepsy only- no radiation?

127 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:52:44pm

re: #124 Fozzie Bear

Sheer opulence! In my day, we didn't have any roads. You had to hire a sherpa to guide you to school, and it took three day to get there. We thought ourselves to be fortunate, as our parents had to ride epileptic legless goats that would randomly vibrate their way across the ground toward school.

HIRE A SHERPA? What extravagance! We would have to follow the annual ferret migration just to find the gravel road in the first place, and that took 3 weeks and only occurred twice a year.

128 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:53:29pm

re: #107 Sergey Romanov

Grigori, my trusty sideckick, that you?

Nope. The people who know me don't consider me mad or Russian. Paranoid on the other hand is definatly on the table.

I like to tell them I am not paranoid, but security conscious.

129 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:53:42pm

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Up hill both ways in the snow!
What year did you graduate??lol

130 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:53:42pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

No idea. Natasha is a diminutive of Natalia, no?

Yep.

131 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:53:55pm

re: #124 Fozzie Bear

re: #126 researchok

I wasn't joking--from 4th grade through junior college my schools were basically farming communes.

132 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:54:13pm

re: #129 reloadingisnotahobby

Up hill both ways in the snow!
What year did you graduate??lol

We're waiting for the ferrets to migrate again.

133 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:54:29pm

re: #129 reloadingisnotahobby

Up hill both ways in the snow!
What year did you graduate??lol

The year the war started.

1812

134 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:55:04pm

re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HIRE A SHERPA? What extravagance! We would have to follow the annual ferret migration just to find the gravel road in the first place, and that took 3 weeks and only occurred twice a year.

punchline: no wonder you're so stupid
(applause)

135 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:55:49pm

Palin unfavorable rating at all time high

A new national poll indicates that 56 percent of all Americans have an unfavorable view of Sarah Palin, an all-time high for the former Alaska governor. That 56 percent unfavorable figure is up seven points from just before the midterm elections, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday morning.

Thirty-eight percent of people questioned in the poll say they have a favorable view of the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, down two points from October.

136 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:57:11pm

I just had ANOTHER spinout accident, hit a patch of ice and lost control, hit the freeway divider. My car is totaled, but I just have some cuts and bruises.

I was hoping to just get through another year with that piece of shit, I guess I won't have to spend $800 on a new muffler now.

I had to wait an hour and a half, blocking a freeway lane at rush hour, until the AAA tow truck came. The police never showed up to take a report. EMS came, took my blood pressure, then left me at the side of the road when I said I didn't think I needed to go to the hospital for just a small cut on my hand.

Many thanks to the good Detroit citizens of all races and genders, including the Muslim lady in a headscarf, who stopped and asked if I needed assistance. G-D bless you all.

I just hated that piece of shit totally unsafe car, may it rust in pieces.

137 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:57:18pm

more Facabook Follies...

OAK PARK, Ill. (CBS) – A student at Oak Park-River Forest High School ranked 50 girls on a list and posted humiliating information about them on Facebook
The male student was suspended after distributing the list, which ranked the girls based on their physical appearance and promiscuity, among other descriptions. The student also wrote about each of the girls he ranked, with descriptions they found thoroughly offensive.

[Link: chicago.cbslocal.com...]

138 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:58:00pm

re: #136 Alouette

I just had ANOTHER spinout accident, hit a patch of ice and lost control, hit the freeway divider. My car is totaled, but I just have some cuts and bruises.

I was hoping to just get through another year with that piece of shit, I guess I won't have to spend $800 on a new muffler now.

I had to wait an hour and a half, blocking a freeway lane at rush hour, until the AAA tow truck came. The police never showed up to take a report. EMS came, took my blood pressure, then left me at the side of the road when I said I didn't think I needed to go to the hospital for just a small cut on my hand.

Many thanks to the good Detroit citizens of all races and genders, including the Muslim lady in a headscarf, who stopped and asked if I needed assistance. G-D bless you all.

I just hated that piece of shit totally unsafe car, may it rust in pieces.

Besides the scare, are you alright?

139 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:58:30pm

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Palin unfavorable rating at all time high

good, excellent news!...how is her TV show doing?

140 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:59:09pm

re: #139 albusteve

good, excellent news!...how is her TV show doing?

Not being renewed.

141 Kragar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:59:11pm

re: #139 albusteve

good, excellent news!...how is her TV show doing?

Cancelled.

142 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:59:30pm

re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HIRE A SHERPA? What extravagance! We would have to follow the annual ferret migration just to find the gravel road in the first place, and that took 3 weeks and only occurred twice a year.

Twice a year!?!?! Such pampered luxury! Our sherpas were actually wolves that only took payment in the form of our own internal organs, and were just as likely to eat your parents as they were to guide you to school. And as for the school itself, it only consisted of an enraged homeless man that would beat us with sticks until we spontaneously recited our times tables. Out of an initial class of 100 individuals, Myself and a rabid badger were the only ones to graduate. And we considered ourselves lucky!

143 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:00:41pm

re: #138 researchok

Besides the scare, are you alright?

I'm still shaking.

144 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:00:41pm

re: #140 researchok

Not being renewed.

oh my!...that oughta be a hefty dose of reality

145 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:02:00pm

re: #136 Alouette

I just had ANOTHER spinout accident, hit a patch of ice and lost control, hit the freeway divider. My car is totaled, but I just have some cuts and bruises.

I was hoping to just get through another year with that piece of shit, I guess I won't have to spend $800 on a new muffler now.

I had to wait an hour and a half, blocking a freeway lane at rush hour, until the AAA tow truck came. The police never showed up to take a report. EMS came, took my blood pressure, then left me at the side of the road when I said I didn't think I needed to go to the hospital for just a small cut on my hand.

Many thanks to the good Detroit citizens of all races and genders, including the Muslim lady in a headscarf, who stopped and asked if I needed assistance. G-D bless you all.

I just hated that piece of shit totally unsafe car, may it rust in pieces.

So glad you're okay.

146 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:02:01pm

re: #114 celticdragon

Cool Mafia name generator here.

Call me "Natalia the Fixer".

Ribbed Slim Jimma

Ha

147 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:02:14pm

re: #142 Fozzie Bear

Twice a year!?!?! Such pampered luxury! Our sherpas were actually wolves that only took payment in the form of our own internal organs, and were just as likely to eat your parents as they were to guide you to school. And as for the school itself, it only consisted of an enraged homeless man that would beat us with sticks until we spontaneously recited our times tables. Out of an initial class of 100 individuals, Myself and a rabid badger were the only ones to graduate. And we considered ourselves lucky!

You had to give up your internal organs? Not your siblings or grandparents?

Homeless people? Not the undead?

Some guys have all the luck.

148 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:02:59pm

re: #143 Alouette

I'm still shaking.

Assuming you don't have a lot of delayed pain, can you get to work tomorrow?

149 researchok  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:03:24pm

re: #143 Alouette

I'm still shaking.

Might I suggest a hot toddy or coffee with Baileys. Or two.

Seriously.

150 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:05:07pm

re: #142 Fozzie Bear

Twice a year!?!?! Such pampered luxury! Our sherpas were actually wolves that only took payment in the form of our own internal organs, and were just as likely to eat your parents as they were to guide you to school. And as for the school itself, it only consisted of an enraged homeless man that would beat us with sticks until we spontaneously recited our times tables. Out of an initial class of 100 individuals, Myself and a rabid badger were the only ones to graduate. And we considered ourselves lucky!

That's nothing. In my day there was no such thing as a school! I had to get edjumacted from the back of matchbooks and the tags off my clothes...all by the light of one single candle.

151 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:05:31pm

re: #143 Alouette

I'm still shaking.

Sorry Alouette.

FYI, here in CA, cops never come. Thing of the past, and obviously, your future.

Glad you are OK.

152 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:06:34pm

re: #143 Alouette

I'm still shaking.

I would recommend a nice warm bath with a good cup of salt in it.

153 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:07:27pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

Sorry Alouette.

FYI, here in CA, cops never come. Thing of the past, and obviously, your future.

Glad you are OK.

Don't you need a police report for insurance purposes?

154 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:07:28pm

Does anyone know the original name of the pic used in this cover?

Image: 1001448419.jpg

155 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:07:30pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

Ribbed Slim Jimma

Ha

Phat Crack Smoka

Woo!

156 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:07:51pm

re: #136 Alouette

.....(((Alouette)))
SO GLAD You'll be OK!!

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:08:03pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

Sorry Alouette.

FYI, here in CA, cops never come. Thing of the past, and obviously, your future.

Glad you are OK.

Today a guy stepped on the gas instead of the break and went gunning through the window of the CVS, straight into the makeup section.

The cops did, in fact, come for that.

158 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:08:04pm

re: #136 Alouette

Glad to hear you didn't get hurt. Freeway accidents scare the fuck out of me...not the crash itself, but the other cars around me. On the bright side, congratulations on your future new car!

159 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:08:26pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Today a guy stepped on the gas instead of the break and went gunning through the window of the CVS, straight into the makeup section.

The cops did, in fact, come for that.

brake

160 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:09:09pm

I hope you are ok, Alouette. That sounds like quite an ordeal.

161 blueraven  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:09:42pm

re: #136 Alouette

I just had ANOTHER spinout accident, hit a patch of ice and lost control, hit the freeway divider. My car is totaled, but I just have some cuts and bruises.

I was hoping to just get through another year with that piece of shit, I guess I won't have to spend $800 on a new muffler now.

I had to wait an hour and a half, blocking a freeway lane at rush hour, until the AAA tow truck came. The police never showed up to take a report. EMS came, took my blood pressure, then left me at the side of the road when I said I didn't think I needed to go to the hospital for just a small cut on my hand.

Many thanks to the good Detroit citizens of all races and genders, including the Muslim lady in a headscarf, who stopped and asked if I needed assistance. G-D bless you all.

I just hated that piece of shit totally unsafe car, may it rust in pieces.

(((Alouette))) Thank goodness you are OK. But do be on the lookout for any latent signs of injury. Might be a good idea to get checked by your regular doctor.

The kindness of strangers is always so uplifting!

162 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:11:27pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Today a guy stepped on the gas instead of the break and went gunning through the window of the CVS, straight into the makeup section.

The cops did, in fact, come for that.

That happened at a mini mart I was working at. The driver was pulling her car forward after getting gas, and she hadn't shut her door, so she ended up on her butt. The car didn't get into the building, just smashed the doorway. I was on the other side, but she was still more shook up than I was.

163 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:12:46pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Outrage!
Ice cleared from outside Obama daughters’ school, but not from public school across the street

Obama derangement. Of course, the original blog doesn't even say a peep about the Obamas.

And here's an interesting thing I noticed. Compare the image that Daily Caller posted to the Google Street View of Hearst Elementary School. It's not even in the same location and a completely different environment. Daily Caller just used some BS photo.

164 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:13:09pm

re: #68 researchok

Mob Name Generator

That gave me this one, no kidding:

James 'The Lizard King' Carnegliboni
165 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:13:42pm

re: #143 Alouette

I'm still shaking.

{{Alouette}}

I think you might be sore tomorrow. The bath sounds like a great suggestion.

166 tradewind  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:14:19pm

Lame list. There's a Hootie at #15, but not a Blowfish in sight.

167 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:14:40pm

re: #164 reine.de.tout

That gave me this one, no kidding:

James 'The Lizard King' Carnegliboni

You're our king AND our queen?

168 tradewind  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:16:22pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout
It's Sidwell Friends, IIRC. Shouldn't the students be clearing the PS walks as a service project?

169 sagehen  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:18:42pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

We washed every window in the school every Friday, polished the floors, fed, milked the cows, and pasturized the milk. (In fact we ran the whole freakin farm at the HS level.)

And did you have to personally turn the livestock into lunch?

170 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:21:34pm

re: #169 sagehen

And did you have to personally turn the livestock into lunch?

We had our graduated highschool kids do that a couple times a year with a .45. The younger kids would line up to mourn at the nearby fence, nearest the small slaughterhouse where the guest of honor would be tied for a while. Things were very real at our school.

171 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:23:40pm

Wow.

I know, I know...she's the FLOTUS...one shouldn't objectify...but that dress is stunning on her.

172 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:24:16pm

re: #136 Alouette

Need a new car?
Eh..I know a guy...Your in Detroit right.....Go to Lincoln Blvd and 102nd
The deli there?? You know which one I'm talkin about...After the lunch rush
ask for Carmine...he don't work there but they'll know what ya need !
Kapeeesh;-) leave a # and he'll hook you up!!
Lexus ,Lincoln,Caddy ...What eva.........

173 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:24:25pm

re: #167 wrenchwench


You're our king AND our queen?

some lizards can reproduce asexually....

174 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:25:28pm

re: #171 darthstar

Wow.

I know, I know...she's the FLOTUS...one shouldn't objectify...but that dress is stunning on her.

Front shot

175 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:26:15pm

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Assuming you don't have a lot of delayed pain, can you get to work tomorrow?

I'm not going in to work tomorrow.

176 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:26:43pm

re: #149 researchok

Might I suggest a hot toddy or coffee with Baileys. Or two.

Seriously.

I have Vicodin. :)

177 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:27:27pm

re: #175 Alouette

I'm not going in to work tomorrow.

Good plan.

178 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:27:42pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

Don't you need a police report for insurance purposes?

They can probably get a transcript of the 911 call and the EMS report.

179 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:29:16pm

re: #171 darthstar

Wow.

I know, I know...she's the FLOTUS...one shouldn't objectify...but that dress is stunning on her.

It's gorgeous.

Sometimes I wish I had reasons to wear things like that. :)

180 sagehen  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:29:41pm

re: #171 darthstar

Wow.

I know, I know...she's the FLOTUS...one shouldn't objectify...but that dress is stunning on her.

this one is still my favorite. (from the India dinner)

181 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:30:43pm

re: #171 darthstar

Wow.

I know, I know...she's the FLOTUS...one shouldn't objectify...but that dress is stunning on her.

Well then i'll be a jerk and say it. FLOTUS is hot. Smoking hot. Barack is a very lucky man.

183 sagehen  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:32:23pm

re: #181 Fozzie Bear


184 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:33:16pm

re: #180 sagehen

this one is still my favorite. (from the India dinner)

Yep...that one's a winner too. I have to say, I think she's the most beautiful FLOTUS since Jackie...granted, Pat was dowdy, Nancy was old, Barbara looked like the Quaker Oats guy, Hillary always seemed to be angry at something, and Laura just looked drugged up...but Michelle consistently hits it out of the park - and often with stuff anyone can buy at J Crew or Target.

185 Four More Beers  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:35:29pm

What great week so far for LGF. Two days ago we got the American Idol try-out video from those hillbilly Palin freaks, and then today we get these hysterical mafia nicknames. The only thing that could make this a better week is if Palin said, "Ya knoooooow, that presidential thingy just ain't gonna work out for ya." ## fingers crossed in breathless anticipation ##

186 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:35:47pm

re: #182 Gus 802

Glenn Beck 'You're Going to Have to Shoot Them in the Head' clip found

who the hell is he refering to...what radicals?

187 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:36:17pm

re: #186 albusteve

who the hell is he refering to...what radicals?

Liberals. That's the context.

188 Four More Beers  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:37:54pm

"Junior Lollipops"

HA! HA! HA!

189 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:38:58pm

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

Liberals. That's the context.

seems to me, he's the radical...shooting people in the head, oh well, free speech and all that...gotta live with it

190 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:41:11pm

re: #189 albusteve

seems to me, he's the radical...shooting people in the head, oh well, free speech and all that...gotta live with it

We are living with the consequences of his demagoguery, every day.

191 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:41:21pm

re: #188 Kid A

That has to be one of the least intimidating nicknames in history.

192 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:42:46pm

re: #186 albusteve

who the hell is he refering to...what radicals?

See the thread in question.

193 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:42:50pm

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

Liberals. That's the context.

Actually,, the "context" was him "asking" someone to shoot HIM (Beck) in the head as the only way he'll stop
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

194 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:43:27pm

Kramer's disaster was just one of an average 700 water main breaks nationwide that experts say occur each day. They warn that this is the latest sign of an aging water delivery infrastructure that results in property loss, inconvenience, and threats to public health.
The nation's drinking water system is so troubled, the American Society of Civil Engineers gave it a grade of D minus, in its 2009 Report Card of America's Infrastructure.

on the edge of third worldliness here...clean, convenient drinking water is taken for granted

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

195 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:43:35pm

uuuuuh, how do I try to explain this... a street name is not like a blog nic, you don't get to choose how you are called. You can influence the way you are seen, but you no can pick your nic... if that makes sense.

196 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:43:47pm

re: #191 ProLifeLiberal

That has to be one of the least intimidating nicknames in history.

You don't want to know what "Junior" DID with those "Lolipops" that got him the name!

197 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:45:10pm

re: #193 sattv4u2

Actually,, the "context" was him "asking" someone to shoot HIM (Beck) in the head as the only way he'll stop
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Yes, and he addresses Democrats when he says "you're gonna...", and those to "shoot in the head" are "communists" (which he says Dems are not but which are coopted by Dems). Methinks this is overblown. This is the usual idiotic rhetoric from the King of Clowns, but that's that.

198 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:46:56pm

re: #197 Sergey Romanov

Yes, and he addresses Democrats when he says "you're gonna...",

Meaning Dems will have to do the (probably metaphoric) "shooting":

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

199 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:48:05pm

re: #197 Sergey Romanov

Yes, and he addresses Democrats when he says "you're gonna...", and those to "shoot in the head" are "communists" (which he says Dems are not but which are coopted by Dems). Methinks this is overblown. This is the usual idiotic rhetoric from the King of Clowns, but that's that.

I read that as a warning TO Dems that radicals have co-opted their party

The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

200 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:48:16pm

re: #193 sattv4u2

Actually,, the "context" was him "asking" someone to shoot HIM (Beck) in the head as the only way he'll stop
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

Context...from your link:
"You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about."

Sure...he's addressing Nancy...but he's also addressing those who think Nancy's one of the communists that need to be shot in the head. Beck isn't worth defending...you should know this by now.

201 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:49:01pm

re: #195 brookly red

You watch to much TV. All the made guys I know go their names from name generators on the Internet.

202 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:49:34pm

re: #199 sattv4u2

Dems don't listen to Beck. He's not calling on them to weed out the extremists in their party. He's calling on his fans to weed out the Democratic extremists...and THAT is what his fans are registering.

203 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:49:35pm

re: #200 darthstar

Who's "defending" him

I'm posting the entire quote. That way it can be "in context"

204 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:50:07pm

re: #197 Sergey Romanov

Yes, and he addresses Democrats when he says "you're gonna...", and those to "shoot in the head" are "communists" (which he says Dems are not but which are coopted by Dems). Methinks this is overblown. This is the usual idiotic rhetoric from the King of Clowns, but that's that.

Regardless this is crazy talk. Most folks don't have a Glenn Beck Decoder Ring™ available to make sense out of what's pouring out of his valve. Essentially all we here is "shoot, shoot, shoot" amidst the mumbo jumbo. Only Beck can get away with this BS. And remember that in this current environment we are talking about mentally unstable people listening to his program.

205 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:50:23pm

re: #199 sattv4u2

Isn't that what I wrote?

206 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:50:23pm

Did you guys realize you're trying to make linear, rational sense out of a Glenn Beck diatribe?

207 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:50:52pm

re: #201 Jeff In Ohio

You watch to much TV. All the made guys I know go their names from name generators on the Internet.

well if I had a TV, you might have a point... but, hey greetings from Brooklyn!

208 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:51:35pm

re: #202 darthstar

Dems don't listen to Beck.

Yeah ,, thats why every stupid utterance of his is on Maddow, Olberman and Media Matters!

209 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:52:01pm

re: #205 Sergey Romanov

Isn't that what I wrote?

You hit send as I was still typing!

210 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:52:22pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Did you guys realize you're trying to make linear, rational sense out of a Glenn Beck diatribe?

well for some reason he is in the news here everyday...why?

211 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:52:49pm

re: #204 Gus 802

Regardless this is crazy talk. Most folks don't have a Glenn Beck Decoder Ring™ available to make sense out of what's pouring out of his valve. Essentially all we here is "shoot, shoot, shoot" amidst the mumbo jumbo. Only Beck can get away with this BS. And remember that in this current environment we are talking about mentally unstable people listening to his program.

Agreed that this should be pointed out, but hopefully not in the "Beck really urges TPs to shoot Dems, he really does" frame as I've understood it initially.

212 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:53:35pm

re: #193 sattv4u2

Actually,, the "context" was him "asking" someone to shoot HIM (Beck) in the head as the only way he'll stop
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Ummm... That's some pretty selective reading skills you have there.

The media and the politician have all of this wrong. In every single walk of life — you want to know why TV doesn't reflect you? You want to know why Washington doesn't reflect you? Because they don't understand, from the radical revolutionaries to the Islamic extremists — and yes, DOJ, they do exist — to the Tea Party movements.
Just because you in Washington and you who are so out of touch with life in the media, just because you don't believe in anything doesn't mean nobody else does. We do. You know why you're confused by this show? It's because I believe in something. You don't.
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.
I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.
You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.
They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

Read it again, slowly. Then tell me that isn't a call to action.

213 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:53:51pm

re: #210 albusteve

well for some reason he is in the news here everyday...why?

The strangest animal in the zoo always has the biggest crowd.

214 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:54:20pm

re: #210 albusteve

well for some reason he is in the news here everyday...why?

/well you can't do all Shara all the time, it's not top 40 radio ;)

215 schnapp  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:54:23pm

Scrubs is such a good show. Sitting on the couch watching it right now.

Just saying . . . :)

216 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:54:47pm

re: #208 sattv4u2

Dems don't listen to Beck.

Yeah ,, thats why every stupid utterance of his is on Maddow, Olberman and Media Matters!

They pay attention to him, but they don't take his orders. Now I'd love to debate this with you, but I've had tinnitus for two days and the ringing in my left ear is making me irritable...taking some bourbon and sweet vermouth now to see if that helps.

217 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:55:36pm

re: #215 schnapp

Scrubs is such a good show. Sitting on the couch watching it right now.

Just saying . . . :)

I watched that show a few times...there's some funny stuff there.

218 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:56:29pm
219 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:57:10pm
220 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:57:16pm

re: #216 darthstar

They pay attention to him, but they don't take his orders. Now I'd love to debate this with you, but I've had tinnitus for two days and the ringing in my left ear is making me irritable...taking some bourbon and sweet vermouth now to see if that helps.

But you stated they "don't listen to him"

They "pay attention" without "listening"?
No wonder why they screw up contexts!

221 schnapp  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:57:28pm

re: #217 darthstar

I watched that show a few times...there's some funny stuff there.

One of those shows that just works so well.

222 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:57:35pm

re: #218 Fozzie Bear

Then consider the number of violent acts perpetrated by avid Glenn Beck fans.

Isolated incidents, Fozzie...just like the next one will be, and the one after that.

223 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:57:56pm

re: #218 Fozzie Bear

Then consider the number of violent acts perpetrated by avid Glenn Beck fans.

/funny I don't know anyone who has ever been mugged by a Beck fan...

224 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:58:11pm

Here's how Kos frames this: "Mission accomplished, Glenn Beck". As if moderate Giffords was one of those flaming "communists" Beck was ranting about. Again, the rhetoric is inexcusable (even if metaphoric). But this is overkill IMO.

225 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:58:30pm

re: #219 albusteve

I think you just posted this link

Well, it's extremely pertinent, and apparently ignored by Beck's defenders in this thread.

226 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:59:49pm

re: #225 Fozzie Bear

Well, it's extremely pertinent, and apparently ignored by Beck's defenders in this thread.

I see

Because a couple of us took Becks ENTIRE quote and not just the 'snipped' SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD part we're "defending" him!

227 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:00:39pm

re: #225 Fozzie Bear

Well, it's extremely pertinent, and apparently ignored by Beck's defenders in this thread.

I think the idea was to try and figure out what he was saying

228 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:01:21pm

re: #225 Fozzie Bear

Well, it's extremely pertinent, and apparently ignored by Beck's defenders in this thread.

Just to be clear, do you consider me to be Beck's defender?

229 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:01:34pm

re: #226 sattv4u2

I see

Because a couple of us took Becks ENTIRE quote and not just the 'snipped' SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD part we're "defending" him!

it is the us & them thing... there is no cure, but you can build up an immunity

230 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:01:50pm

re: #228 Sergey Romanov

Just to be clear, do you consider me to be Beck's defender?

No,, just me,,, even though we said the same exact thing!!

:)

231 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:02:03pm

re: #226 sattv4u2

I see

Because a couple of us took Becks ENTIRE quote and not just the 'snipped' SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD part we're "defending" him!

You linked the entire quote above, and i quoted back to you the part of it that demonstrates that he WAS NOT talking about having to shoot him, he was talking about the risk of being shot by radical revolutionaries, and then provides Pelosi as an example of who might shoot you.

I'm sorry, but not only is the context crystal clear, but he is clearly referring to an imminent threat of being shot by communist revolutionaries. You can see the quote in my above post.

232 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:02:39pm

re: #228 Sergey Romanov

Just to be clear, do you consider me to be Beck's defender?

No, that would sattv4u2.

233 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:03:29pm

re: #231 Fozzie Bear

You linked the entire quote above, and i quoted back to you the part of it that demonstrates that he WAS NOT talking about having to shoot him, he was talking about the risk of being shot by radical revolutionaries, and then provides Pelosi as an example of who might shoot you.

I'm sorry, but not only is the context crystal clear, but he is clearly referring to an imminent threat of being shot by communist revolutionaries. You can see the quote in my above post.

No,, he's telling Pelosi
"Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about."

Please notice the comma after her name

234 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:03:59pm

re: #228 Sergey Romanov

re: #230 sattv4u2

No,, just me,,, even though we said the same exact thing!!

:)

re: #232 Fozzie Bear

No, that would sattv4u2.

Did I call it,, or did I call it!!

235 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:05:14pm

re: #230 sattv4u2

No,, just me,,, even though we said the same exact thing!!

:)

I think the point is that people like Loughner and the asshole here in California who was headed to the Tides Foundation before getting into a shooting match with police have limited mental capacity. Beck may have been saying (and he was) that Nancy Pelosi needed to shoot people "in the head" but that's not how his knuckle-dragging, walmart shopping, PT Cruiser driving teabaggers interpret him. Hell, he could say "send them flowers" and they'd probably interpret that as code for "shoot 'em!"...

236 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:06:06pm

re: #233 sattv4u2

No,, he's telling Pelosi
"Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about."

Please notice the comma after her name

Beck's viewers don't see the comma when he's speaking in his breathless "the sky is falling" tone.

237 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:06:24pm

re: #231 Fozzie Bear

You linked the entire quote above, and i quoted back to you the part of it that demonstrates that he WAS NOT talking about having to shoot him, he was talking about the risk of being shot by radical revolutionaries, and then provides Pelosi as an example of who might shoot you.


What? He warns Pelosi about "revolutionaries".

"The Clintons, Bidens, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi — they're not Nazis and they're not communists.
...
Why do you think Code Pink was throwing things and screaming at Nancy Pelosi? They feel betrayed.
...
Again, Nancy, why are you not in tears at this point?"

238 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:06:44pm

OK I am getting confused... defender, denier, such a odd way of describing people.

239 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:07:29pm

He's saying that radical have been brought into Washington DC in sheep's clothing. That these radicals are Communists and believe in revolution and are calling for a revolution.

To this he says clearly that you're going to have to shoot (the radicals) in the head. He ends with the warning that they will essentially shoot back.

He's calling for violence against these perceived radicals "in sheeps clothing". Who defines who these radicals are? Glenn Beck or some crazed lone gunman?

240 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:07:42pm

re: #235 darthstar

I think the point is that people like Loughner and the asshole here in California who was headed to the Tides Foundation before getting into a shooting match with police have limited mental capacity. Beck may have been saying (and he was) that Nancy Pelosi needed to shoot people "in the head" but that's not how his knuckle-dragging, walmart shopping, PT Cruiser driving teabaggers interpret him. Hell, he could say "send them flowers" and they'd probably interpret that as code for "shoot 'em!"...

beats me...I don't see all the fuss....maybe it's best to just ignore the guy and save all that energy...he can't be taken seriously

241 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:08:17pm

re: #237 Sergey Romanov

Again, he is clearly addressing Speaker (at the time) Pelosi

Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

Here is my advice when you're dealing with people who believe in something that strongly — you take them seriously. You listen to their words and you believe that they will follow up with what they say.

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

242 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:08:23pm

re: #233 sattv4u2

No,, he's telling Pelosi
"Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about."

Please notice the comma after her name

The comma only appears in the transcript. People don't say "comma". People watch the show.

Regardless of Beck's intent, he was, once again, invoking violence as a solution to political problems. He has gone on record on countless occasions doing so. And he has had multiple avid fans take up his mantle and try to kill, as has been well documented.

243 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:09:29pm

re: #240 albusteve

beats me...I don't see all the fuss...maybe it's best to just ignore the guy and save all that energy...he can't be taken seriously

No, he isn't taken seriously by people like you, me, and even sattv4u2...but there are people who DO take him seriously...so he must be taken seriously at some level.

244 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:09:37pm

Line by line:

The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose.

You will get the ends.

You've been using them?

They believe in communism.

They believe and have called for a revolution.

You're going to have to shoot them in the head.

But warning, they may shoot you.

245 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:09:54pm

re: #242 Fozzie Bear

The comma only appears in the transcript. People don't say "comma". People watch the show.

Regardless of Beck's intent, he was, once again, invoking violence as a solution to political problems. He has gone on record on countless occasions doing so. And he has had multiple avid fans take up his mantle and try to kill, as has been well documented.


oh gosh...

246 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:10:19pm

re: #239 Gus 802

He's saying that radical have been brought into Washington DC in sheep's clothing. That these radicals are Communists and believe in revolution and are calling for a revolution.

To this he says clearly that you're going to have to shoot (the radicals) in the head. He ends with the warning that they will essentially shoot back.

He's calling for violence against these perceived radicals "in sheeps clothing". Who defines who these radicals are? Glenn Beck or some crazed lone gunman?

that's what I got from the clip...I just didn't know who the radicals were...boy, there sure is a lot more to it tho....I'll pass on the rest, but thanks for the clarification

247 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:10:38pm

re: #245 brookly red

oh gosh...

Yeah, it's quite shocking. Don't say gosh or you may end up in heck for all eternity.

248 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:11:06pm

re: #242 Fozzie Bear

The comma only appears in the transcript. People don't say "comma". People watch the show.

Regardless of Beck's intent, he was, once again, invoking violence as a solution to political problems. He has gone on record on countless occasions doing so. And he has had multiple avid fans take up his mantle and try to kill, as has been well documented.

The comma is in the transcript because he paused when speaking. THAT would be noticed without the need to say COMMA

249 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:11:40pm

re: #246 albusteve

that's what I got from the clip...I just didn't know who the radicals were...boy, there sure is a lot more to it tho...I'll pass on the rest, but thanks for the clarification

I can't think of any "radicals" currently in DC that would require such a response.

250 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:11:41pm

Having read it, yet again, apparently Beck was telling Pelosi that she may have to shoot her supporters, or they will shoot her. How is that better?

251 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:12:23pm

re: #242 Fozzie Bear

The comma only appears in the transcript. People don't say "comma". People watch the show.

Regardless of Beck's intent, he was, once again, invoking violence as a solution to political problems. He has gone on record on countless occasions doing so. And he has had multiple avid fans take up his mantle and try to kill, as has been well documented.

I believe intent is what was under discussion (at first) and mattered most (at first). After all, we all agree Beck is an irresponsible flaming douchebag, and most of us also agree he's dangerous.

252 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:12:34pm

re: #243 darthstar

No, he isn't taken seriously by people like you, me, and even sattv4u2...but there are people who DO take him seriously...so he must be taken seriously at some level.

I don't think so...what level would that be, some higher level than us?....Rupert probably loves the guy...we just have to live with him and his type...maybe his wife could get him to stop

253 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:12:48pm

re: #247 Fozzie Bear

Yeah, it's quite shocking. Don't say gosh or you may end up in heck for all eternity.

OK regardless of intent, he meant what you wanted him to mean... Thank God we have a jury system.

254 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:13:19pm

re: #249 Gus 802

I can't think of any "radicals" currently in DC that would require such a response.

me neither...but I miss stuff lately, I'm not too sharp these days

255 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:13:36pm

re: #253 brookly red

OK regardless of intent, he meant what you wanted him to mean... Thank God we have a jury system.

I want him to go away, or at least shut the fuck up about violent revolution, because that kind of shit gets real people killed.

256 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:14:06pm

re: #248 sattv4u2

The comma is in the transcript because he paused when speaking. THAT would be noticed without the need to say COMMA

They should adopt your habit of using three commas in the transcript, just to,,,you know,,,make is CLEAR there was a pause.

257 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:14:47pm

re: #251 Sergey Romanov

I believe intent is what was under discussion (at first) and mattered most (at first). After all, we all agree Beck is an irresponsible flaming douchebag, and most of us also agree he's dangerous.

Stop defending Beck!!

258 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:15:19pm

re: #250 Fozzie Bear

Having read it, yet again, apparently Beck was telling Pelosi that she may have to shoot her supporters, or they will shoot her. How is that better?

If Beck told his viewers to shoot "commies" it wouldn't be worse?

259 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:15:20pm

re: #247 Fozzie Bear

Yeah, it's quite shocking. Don't say gosh or you may end up in heck for all eternity.

LOL

260 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:15:42pm

re: #256 bratwurst

They should adopt your habit of using three commas in the transcript, just to,,,you know,,,make is CLEAR there was a pause.

Nah

The one in the transcript suffices

That, and the pause when someone speaks!

261 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:16:06pm

re: #257 sattv4u2

Stop defending Beck!!

I hope you'll pardon me if I don't find this shit even a tiny bit funny.

262 McSpiff  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:16:21pm

re: #258 Sergey Romanov

If Beck told his viewers to shoot "commies" it wouldn't be worse?

Seeing as frequently alludes that that Pelosi and her supporters are in fact communists, I'd argue its equivalent to a regular viewer.

263 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:16:39pm

re: #261 Fozzie Bear

I hope you'll pardon me if I don't find this shit even a tiny bit funny.

Sure ,,you're pardoned

264 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:16:45pm

re: #255 Fozzie Bear

I want him to go away, or at least shut the fuck up about violent revolution, because that kind of shit gets real people killed.

yes of course, and if there was even one atom of evidence to support that idea would not the system act?

265 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:18:17pm

re: #264 brookly red

yes of course, and if there was even one atom of evidence to support that idea would not the system act?

There is a mountain of evidence, twice linked in this thread, and there's plenty more. Multiple people have taken Beck's calls to action and set out to kill people.

266 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:18:24pm

It's a "call to arms" against the radicals in DC. The Communists and the revolutionaries as defined by Glenn Beck's lengthy blackboard sessions and paranoid rants. He offers a warning to Pelosi that she should be worried about these radical. He suggests a "2nd Amendment solution" in dealing with the radicals sometimes in the future and that they will shoot back. It's end of times talk laced with Bircher paranoia and the usual Beck lunacy.

267 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:19:16pm

re: #262 McSpiff

Seeing as frequently alludes that that Pelosi and her supporters are in fact communists, I'd argue its equivalent to a regular viewer.

He explicitly says Pelosi is not a commie, but... Well... Yes, I do find a direct appeal for shooting to be much, much, much worse than a violent hypothetical in which Pelosi shoots commie fellow travelers. I guess I'm strange like that ;-)

268 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:19:31pm

re: #261 Fozzie Bear

I hope you'll pardon me if I don't find this shit even a tiny bit funny.

But accusing me of something that I am not while at the same time excusing another poster who said the exact same thing as I did , THATS funny ,,, right!?!?!

269 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:19:33pm

one thing's for sure...I bet Glenn is very happy that he's getting all this attention here....he's beyond the pale and I very much doubt that there is a solution to his madness to be found....but then I might be wrong

270 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:20:13pm

re: #174 darthstar

Front shot

Alexander McQueen.

Quite nice.

271 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:20:43pm

re: #268 sattv4u2

But accusing me of something that I am not while at the same time excusing another poster who said the exact same thing as I did , THATS funny ,,, right!?!?!

Satt, I have already admitted I was mistaken in my reading of that quote. Care to wallow any more before you let it go?

272 zora  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:20:51pm

re: #255 Fozzie Bear

I want him to go away, or at least shut the fuck up about violent revolution, because that kind of shit gets real people killed.

imo, it is irrelevant who beck in talking about being shot in the head. it's over the top and wholly inappropriate.

273 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:21:19pm

re: #180 sagehen

this one is still my favorite. (from the India dinner)

Y'all know that site: Mrs. O

[Link: mrs-o.org...]

274 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:21:54pm

re: #272 zora

imo, it is irrelevant who beck in talking about being shot in the head. it's over the top and wholly inappropriate.

Yes, well, apparently, when people make public calls for political violence, it's time to quibble over exactly who the speaker is advocating be killed.

275 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:12pm

Boo!

276 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:22pm

re: #272 zora

imo, it is irrelevant who beck in talking about being shot in the head. it's over the top and wholly inappropriate.

Could you imagine if Keith Olbermann had said "you're going to have to shoot them in the head"? Or anyone else for that matter.

277 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:34pm

re: #275 b_sharp

Boo!

Eek!

278 McSpiff  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:34pm

re: #267 Sergey Romanov

He explicitly says Pelosi is not a commie, but... Well... Yes, I do find a direct appeal for shooting to be much, much, much worse than a violent hypothetical in which Pelosi shoots commie fellow travelers. I guess I'm strange like that ;-)

Well, we'll have to disagree on that. I don't think the key part is who does the shooting, its the people getting shot part.

279 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:39pm

re: #265 Fozzie Bear

There is a mountain of evidence, twice linked in this thread, and there's plenty more. Multiple people have taken Beck's calls to action and set out to kill people.

Maybe you should be calling Holder? I mean seriously, should not the authorities be involved? Clearly you are alleging criminal activity, I would think on your testimony alone he could be brought up for trial?

280 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:51pm

re: #275 b_sharp

Boo!

Bah!

281 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:52pm

re: #271 Fozzie Bear

Satt, I have already admitted I was mistaken in my reading of that quote. Care to wallow any more before you let it go?

We're not talking about you mistakingly reading a quote

We're discussing an accusation about me personally. Some things can't be "let go" until they're cleared

282 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:55pm

re: #275 b_sharp

Boo!

Hey sharpy...Bflat is lying next to me right now.

283 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:22:59pm

re: #269 albusteve

one thing's for sure...I bet Glenn is very happy that he's getting all this attention here...he's beyond the pale and I very much doubt that there is a solution to his madness to be found...but then I might be wrong

Not really. If conservatives gave Glenn Beck the kind of attention we do he would soon shrink away. He doesn't care what we think, he's only concerned with maintaining his followers. The only solution will be when his audience turns on him.

284 zora  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:24:23pm

re: #273 Stanley Sea

Y'all know that site: Mrs. O

[Link: mrs-o.org...]

i know now. thanks.

285 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:24:31pm

re: #280 Sergey Romanov

Bah!

Thats a very sheepish reply!

287 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:25:20pm

re: #281 sattv4u2

We're not talking about you mistakingly reading a quote

We're discussing an accusation about me personally. Some things can't be "let go" until they're cleared

good luck with that.

288 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:25:22pm

re: #282 darthstar

Hey sharpy...Bflat is lying next to me right now.

Maybe she's A_Sharp. Did you ever think of that?

289 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:26:01pm

re: #278 McSpiff

Well, we'll have to disagree on that. I don't think the key part is who does the shooting, its the people getting shot part.

I don't see how this can be argued. A direct appeal for murder is a direct appeal for murder, while a violent hypothetical merely adds to the violent atmosphere. The former is much more probable to cause an actual shooting. Moreover, for the former Beck would go to prison.

290 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:26:06pm

re: #287 brookly red

good luck with that.

Hope springs eternal

291 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:26:26pm

re: #285 sattv4u2

Thats a very sheepish reply!

This is going to become a died in the wool pun cascade!!

292 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:27:16pm

re: #291 b_sharp

This is going to become a died in the wool pun cascade!!

No it's knit!

293 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:27:21pm

re: #291 b_sharp

This is going to become a died in the wool pun cascade!!

That would be shear idiocy.

294 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:27:24pm

re: #283 Killgore Trout

Not really. If conservatives gave Glenn Beck the kind of attention we do he would soon shrink away. He doesn't care what we think, he's only concerned with maintaining his followers. The only solution will be when his audience turns on him.

I wonder if that's even possible without him somehow inspiring it...maybe some sort of shocking meltdown....the way he pushes the envelope out a bit at a time is pretty clever, in that I doubt his listeners even realize they are being used...and they must really dig his evangelical delivery

295 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:28:26pm

re: #292 sattv4u2

No it's knit!

Ewe couldn't be wronger.

296 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:28:32pm

re: #290 sattv4u2

Hope springs eternal

practice floating, you may need to prove you weigh less than a duck.

297 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:28:48pm

Someone doesn't like foreign cars!!!
Bah!!

298 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:29:34pm

re: #295 b_sharp

Ewe couldn't be wronger.

Doe I detect sarcasm?

299 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:29:38pm

re: #281 sattv4u2

We're not talking about you mistakingly reading a quote

We're discussing an accusation about me personally. Some things can't be "let go" until they're cleared

The only personal accusation made is that you were defending Glenn Beck. Apparently you were merely quibbling over who he was talking about getting shot. For that, I apologize.

However, you might want to consider that such talk is extremely dangerous, and has real world consequences, regardless of the target of such 'hypothetical' discussions. You also may wish to consider the preponderance of evidence that avid Beck fans have, in fact, attempted to kill people (with some success) in acts of violence that are not random, but rather political in nature.

I am NOT referring to the Loughner/Giffords situation, mind you.

300 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:29:41pm
301 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:30:25pm
302 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:30:27pm

re: #294 albusteve

I wonder if that's even possible without him somehow inspiring it...maybe some sort of shocking meltdown...the way he pushes the envelope out a bit at a time is pretty clever, in that I doubt his listeners even realize they are being used...and they must really dig his evangelical delivery

Yeah, the problem is his audience doesn't care and I'm not sure if they ever will. I thought the craziness would blow over before it got this far. Republicans may become more rationale once they get back in power but I'm starting to think they might be stuck like this for the foreseeable future.

303 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:30:43pm

re: #288 b_sharp

Maybe she's A_Sharp. Did you ever think of that?

She's a he. But no, I hadn't considered that. But the ladies at the Vet's office love him and his name.

304 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:30:58pm

re: #298 sattv4u2

Doe I detect sarcasm?

You doe, my deer.

305 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:31:15pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Niiice Boots

From the Condi Rice collection.

306 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:31:29pm

re: #299 Fozzie Bear

For that, I apologize.

Then it's over,, thank you

307 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:31:53pm

re: #279 brookly red

Maybe you should be calling Holder? I mean seriously, should not the authorities be involved? Clearly you are alleging criminal activity, I would think on your testimony alone he could be brought up for trial?

Oh yes, the ding down squad resents being asked for hard evidence... what a surprise. You all need to get over your selves & deal with the kind of facts a judge would allow in court... otherwise you got nothing.

308 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:32:16pm

re: #304 Sergey Romanov

You doe, my deer.

MOOve along

309 Sionainn  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:32:37pm

re: #66 crimsonfisted

Oh my!!! I am The Bastard

Me, too.

310 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:33:14pm

re: #303 darthstar

She's a he. But no, I hadn't considered that. But the ladies at the Vet's office love him and his name.

Big dog?

If so, could be a relative of mine.

311 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:33:29pm

re: #305 Killgore Trout

From the Condi Rice collection.

Bettah, more "today"

I loved Condi's boots. Damn that she got shit. ? assholes

312 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:33:36pm

re: #307 brookly red

Oh yes, the ding down squad resents being asked for hard evidence... what a surprise. You all need to get over your selves & deal with the kind of facts a judge would allow in court... otherwise you got nothing.

We aren't in court, and i'm not Holder.

Regardless, bitching about being down-dinged just gets you more down dings. Quit whining.

313 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:33:50pm

re: #307 brookly red

Oh yes, the ding down squad resents being asked for hard evidence... what a surprise. You all need to get over your selves & deal with the kind of facts a judge would allow in court... otherwise you got nothing.

You're never doing well here on LGF when you find yourself attacking groups of lizards Brook....

314 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:33:53pm

re: #307 brookly red

the ding down squad

We need to find a catchy jingle for them.

Maybe something in the order of Sesame Street, or Mr Rogers with different lyrics

315 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:34:08pm

re: #216 darthstar

They pay attention to him, but they don't take his orders. Now I'd love to debate this with you, but I've had tinnitus for two days and the ringing in my left ear is making me irritable...taking some bourbon and sweet vermouth now to see if that helps.

20 years here.

316 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:34:33pm

So what are we fighting about tonight?

Anything juicy?

317 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:35:00pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the problem is his audience doesn't care and I'm not sure if they ever will. I thought the craziness would blow over before it got this far. Republicans may become more rationale once they get back in power but I'm starting to think they might be stuck like this for the foreseeable future.

I think you are right....it may not escalate much further but what we have now is probably gonna be the statu quo for a long time

318 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:35:09pm

re: #310 b_sharp

Big dog?

If so, could be a relative of mine.

Gin swilling cat.

319 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:35:22pm

Heh. Right. He was "only talking about radical Communists". Now put this in the context of an audience that thinks Obama is a radical Communist. Where many time moderate Democrats are called "far left" by wingnuts. Heck, I even had some idiot on Twitter call me a Marxist. Beck says "the believe in Marx". And here I had to encounter this dipshit calling me a Marxist? This should not be glossed over.

320 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:35:28pm

re: #316 b_sharp

So what are we fighting about tonight?

Anything juicy?

As long as you don't overcook the sheep!

321 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:36:19pm

re: #312 Fozzie Bear

We aren't in court, and i'm not Holder.

Regardless, bitching about being down-dinged just gets you more down dings. Quit whining.

yes and you still can't provide a single shred of evidence... I will take the dings, I laugh at your BS. You still have nothing but ill will & hearsay. Let the record show.

322 KingKenrod  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:36:28pm

I haven't seen anyone mention Beck got kicked out of Philly a few days ago and then went scorched earth:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

323 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:36:43pm

re: #307 brookly red

Oh yes, the ding down squad resents being asked for hard evidence... what a surprise. You all need to get over your selves & deal with the kind of facts a judge would allow in court... otherwise you got nothing.

Says Mr. I am the contrarian of every LGF thread.

324 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:37:00pm

re: #318 darthstar
Some folks would say that is animal cruelty. I think it is cute.

325 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:37:12pm

re: #314 sattv4u2

the ding down squad

We need to find a catchy jingle for them.

Maybe something in the order of Sesame Street, or Mr Rogers with different lyrics

please cast not you pearls...

326 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:37:42pm

re: #316 b_sharp

So what are we fighting about tonight?

Anything juicy?

of course not

327 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:37:44pm

re: #324 PhillyPretzel

Some folks would say that is animal cruelty. I think it is cute.

I think it should be mandatory!

328 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:38:14pm

re: #321 brookly red

yes and you still can't provide a single shred of evidence... I will take the dings, I laugh at your BS. You still have nothing but ill will & hearsay. Let the record show.

When you see blue text, it is a link. When you click on it, it leads to a different website. Shall I link it a third time?

329 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:38:38pm

re: #322 KingKenrod

I haven't seen anyone mention Beck got kicked out of Philly a few days ago and then went scorched earth:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Hit him in the money maker, he goes off: Beck:

“You know the killing streets right there in front of Independence Hall in Philadelphia?” Beck told his producer. “You know how Philadelphia is not a place you want to be?” he added. “I’ll put you on a hidden cam and put you downtown at 6, 7 o’clock at night.” He could not believe his producer would be brave enough to walk around Center City at night. “Philly sucks,” Beck then said.

330 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:39:07pm

Some of those names are indistinguishable from the pseudonyms furries give themselves

NIGHTHAWK

THE VET

MOUSIE

331 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:39:10pm

re: #318 darthstar

Gin swilling cat.

Is he as bad as my cat?

If you've ever seen the 'The Cat Came Back' short, then you've seen the model my cat patterns himself after.

332 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:39:12pm

re: #324 PhillyPretzel

Some folks would say that is animal cruelty. I think it is cute.

Fortunately, he doesn't like beer or bourbon...but when we do have martinis, he's damn near unstoppable. Little bastard loves good gin.

333 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:39:13pm

re: #323 Stanley Sea

Says Mr. I am the contrarian of every LGF thread.

ill will and hearsay... not a spec of fact. If your are comfortable with that more power to you.

334 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:39:44pm

re: #279 brookly red

Maybe you should be calling Holder? I mean seriously, should not the authorities be involved? Clearly you are alleging criminal activity, I would think on your testimony alone he could be brought up for trial?

I'll admit it, I'm just piling on at this point :D

335 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:40:36pm

re: #326 albusteve

of course not

Thank Dog.

336 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:40:40pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Niiice Boots

not shiny enough! :D

337 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:40:48pm

re: #332 darthstar
He knows quality.

338 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:41:52pm

re: #334 WindUpBird

I'll admit it, I'm just piling on at this point :D

of course you are, I don't hold it against you... I do this for the un-named readers who actually seek the facts.

339 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:41:53pm
340 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:41:57pm

re: #332 darthstar

Fortunately, he doesn't like beer or bourbon...but when we do have martinis, he's damn near unstoppable. Little bastard loves good gin.

Shaken or stirred.

341 zora  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:42:36pm

re: #330 WindUpBird

Some of those names are indistinguishable from the pseudonyms furries give themselves

NIGHTHAWK

THE VET

MOUSIE

a furry mafioso. now that would be some scary shit.

342 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:42:38pm

A transcript of Beck's incoherent rant at Fox News:

Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

343 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:42:39pm

re: #312 Fozzie Bear

This is nothing. Nope, nothing to see here:

The 45-year-old "highway shooter" who engaged in a 12-minute shootout with California Highway Patrol officers earlier this year now says Fox News host Glenn Beck has been an inspiration for his activity.
...
Observers of this most recent act were mystified by one of Byron Williams' reported targets: the Tides Foundation, a low-profile charitable organization known for funding environmentalists, community groups, and other organizations.

Beck, it turned out, had attacked Tides 29 times on his Fox News show in the year-and-a-half leading up to the shooting.

If that isn't "evidence", I don't know what is.

344 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:42:43pm

re: #338 brookly red

of course you are, I don't hold it against you... I do this for the un-named readers who actually seek the facts.

we know dude, you're the shining paladin of truth, glory and righteousness, haloed in sunlight and surrounded by doves bearing banners ;-)

345 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:43:38pm

re: #341 zora

a furry mafioso. now that would be some scary shit.

Imagine when they leave the horse head next to you in the bed

and then you wake up

and then you scream

and then IT GETS UP BECAUSE It"S ATTACHED TO A HORSE COSTUME WITH A LEGBREAKER INSIDE IT AHHHHHHH

346 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:44:02pm

re: #344 WindUpBird

we know dude, you're the shining paladin of truth, glory and righteousness, haloed in sunlight and surrounded by doves bearing banners ;-)

well at least I don't pile on ;)

347 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:44:14pm

re: #339 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

Image: 5f1959cb-a8ab-48d4-8353-3b212972e421.jpg

awww!

348 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:44:57pm

re: #343 publicityStunted

Yeah, apparently that's not "evidency" enough for Brookly.

349 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:45:17pm

re: #344 WindUpBird

we know dude, you're the shining paladin of truth, glory and righteousness, haloed in sunlight and surrounded by doves bearing banners ;-)

LOL, for all those unregistered readers. YEAH.

350 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:45:24pm
351 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:45:35pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

I AM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT.

Tucker Carlson, your "non-political" blog is a fucking farce.

he's just pissed because he can't get any of that Olbermann money

352 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:46:15pm

re: #331 b_sharp

Cute short...catchy tune, too.

353 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:46:26pm

re: #349 Stanley Sea

LOL, for all those unregistered readers. YEAH.

yeah the ones who read the ads & pay for the whole thing...

354 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:46:52pm

If Cliffster is reading, DUDE, I have something major in common with your wife tonight. :)

355 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:46:57pm

re: #350 b_sharp

356 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:49:45pm

re: #354 Stanley Sea

If Cliffster is reading, DUDE, I have something major in common with your wife tonight. :)

You're strutting around naked?

357 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:50:53pm

Patterico's having the vapors again:

[Link: patterico.com...]

358 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:51:31pm

re: #343 publicityStunted

This is nothing. Nope, nothing to see here:

If that isn't "evidence", I don't know what is.

you would think that these highly regarded hate speech laws would apply...or are those hate crime laws?...regardless, it would be pretty tough to make a case against Beck I think

359 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:52:00pm

re: #142 Fozzie Bear

Twice a year!?!?! Such pampered luxury! Our sherpas were actually wolves that only took payment in the form of our own internal organs, and were just as likely to eat your parents as they were to guide you to school. And as for the school itself, it only consisted of an enraged homeless man that would beat us with sticks until we spontaneously recited our times tables. Out of an initial class of 100 individuals, Myself and a rabid badger were the only ones to graduate. And we considered ourselves lucky!

And you liked it!

///

360 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:53:01pm

re: #348 Fozzie Bear

Yeah, apparently that's not "evidency" enough for Brookly.

hey I am just a poster... If you got evidence show it to the DA. Put up or shut up as they say... the fact is you got nothing.

361 Henchman 26  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:54:06pm

BBL

362 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:54:21pm

re: #357 Charles

Patterico's having the vapors again:

[Link: patterico.com...]

wow...some mean assed stuff in there....lotta butthurt

363 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:55:08pm

re: #360 brookly red

hey I am just a poster... If you got evidence show it to the DA. Put up or shut up as they say... the fact is you got nothing.

truth hurts huh stunted?

364 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:55:40pm

re: #357 Charles

Patterico's having the vapors again:

[Link: patterico.com...]

Patterico wants you to believe that "Johnson wants you to believe".

365 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:56:53pm

re: #364 Sergey Romanov

Patterico wants you to believe that "Johnson wants you to believe".

I never said any of the things he's responding to! He's having a private debate with a fantasy version of me.

366 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:57:24pm

re: #357 Charles

And the CJ haters are out in full force.

367 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:57:35pm

one side is going to eat the other
(free verse by G. Beck)
rivers of blood
boot on their throat
it is dangerous, what is happening
extraordinarily disturbing
a lot of them have called for violent revolution
you want to know why Washington doesn't reflect you?
because they don't understand
shoot me in the head if you try to change our government
they believe in communism
you're going to have to shoot them in the head
but warning, they may shoot you
the revolution of 1776 was a picnic
compared to what the revolutionaries of today would like to do.
it's not a lot of fun. Usually, millions of people die
I don't know what side Barney Frank is on
there is a war happening
I've got news, gang
you are not in the spectator stands
the socialism of Europe is not enough for radicals
this same kind of revolutionaries with the same kind of think
have their hooks in us now
we have their handbook and much more tomorrow
read it and prepare

368 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:58:52pm

re: #357 Charles

Patterico's having the vapors again:

[Link: patterico.com...]

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

369 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:00:20pm

re: #365 Charles

I never said any of the things he's responding to! He's having a private debate with a fantasy version of me.

He's such a mind-reader! But then why can't we mind-read Beck?

370 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:00:51pm

Who is Patterico?

371 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:01:22pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

Patterico? never heard of em...

372 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:03:22pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

Look at what they're making excuses for - a disturbing, incoherent rant involving shooting lots of people in the head, including Beck himself.

And they wonder why they were banned, and whine like babies, often for years, over the loss of accounts registered to fake names like "Iron Fist," often with throwaway email addresses, that they didn't pay a penny to register.

373 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:04:06pm

Right. Glenn Beck didn't use the present tense. He used the future tense: you're going to have to shoot. So get ready Rambo wannabes! Teh revolution is coming and you have to keep an eye on those "DC radicals in sheeps clothing!!11ty"

374 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:04:17pm

re: #365 Charles

I never said any of the things he's responding to! He's having a private debate with a fantasy version of me.

And to think he's actually one of the "brighter" ones! He's a rare conservative blogger who has seen through RSM's evasions.

375 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:04:39pm

re: #372 Charles

Look at what they're making excuses for - a disturbing, incoherent rant involving shooting lots of people in the head, including Beck himself.

And they wonder why they were banned, and whine like babies, often for years, over the loss of accounts registered to fake names like "Iron Fist," often with throwaway email addresses that they didn't pay a penny to register.

Uh, blogmaster, people are doing that in their round about way here.

It's everywhere!

376 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:05:21pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

I was banned for down dinging...
reminds me of Steve Martin in the Jerk for some reason

377 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:06:09pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

For many of them, it was a defining moment in their lives.
Very sad.

378 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:06:24pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

Another night at the "I was blocked" support group.

379 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:06:28pm

re: #373 Gus 802

I've got news, gang, you are not in the spectator stands


That's a pretty clear invitation for loose cannons.

380 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:07:17pm

re: #379 jaunte

That's a pretty clear invitation for loose cannons.

For sure.

Where did that quote come from?

381 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:08:04pm

re: #357 Charles

His assigning of pronouns is wrong. Is he perhaps a retard?

382 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:08:25pm

re: #380 Gus 802

Beck's rant, right before the last commercial break: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

383 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:09:21pm

"Hello. My name is Bob and I was [snif] blocked from LGF on August 23, 2007 [snif]. It still hurts to think about it and I think about it every day! [snif]

[bawl]

//

384 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:11:30pm

re: #383 Gus 802

"Hello. My name is Bob and I was [snif] blocked from LGF on August 23, 2007 [snif]. It still hurts to think about it and I think about it every day! [snif]

[bawl]

//

But, but you said your name was Gus?

385 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:13:42pm

LGF must have been their entire lives.

LGF is nice and all, but holy shit that is sad.

386 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:13:49pm

re: #319 Gus 802

Heh. Right. He was "only talking about radical Communists". Now put this in the context of an audience that thinks Obama is a radical Communist. Where many time moderate Democrats are called "far left" by wingnuts. Heck, I even had some idiot on Twitter call me a Marxist. Beck says "the believe in Marx". And here I had to encounter this dipshit calling me a Marxist? This should not be glossed over.

the single thing that annoys me the most is the inevitable habit wingnuts have of telling you what you believe: "your friend castro" "i know you love the state and want it to run everything" "yeah, we should have everybody work for the government, that worked so well in the soviet union - oh, wait..." "you democrats think marx is so great but it didn't work in the past and it won't work now" "it raises taxes, you should love that"

387 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:13:50pm

Now some guy whose name is Bob and was blocked is going to read that and think I was referring to him.

[Twilight Zone theme]

388 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:14:54pm

re: #387 Gus 802

Now some guy whose name is Bob and was blocked is going to read that and think I was referring to him.

[Twilight Zone theme]

/and he knows where you live...

389 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:15:12pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Check out the updates on their bogus pedestrian story...
Highway safety spokesperson blames pedestrian deaths on Michelle Obama’s anti-obesity campaign?
They're sticking to it. Drudge is still linking to the story too.

Epidemiologists are seeing a lack of physical exercise as leading to diabetes, obesity, and cardiovacular morbidities at exponentially increasing rates. They are studying how to create public health policies that will increase physical activity levels among youth. Can you imagine the amount of lives and medical care costs that could be saved from successful efforts along those lines?

And you can be your bottom dollar that the rightwing will gin up outrage about government overreach as a result. That was an astonishingly irresponsible statement by a public official.

390 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:15:23pm

re: #375 Stanley Sea

Uh, blogmaster, people are doing that in their round about way here.

It's everywhere!

The one Charles mentioned - no, that stuff is NOT being done here, not even in a round-about way. Seriously. I saw something once, posted when he was drunk, or something - just awful stuff.

391 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:16:47pm

re: #388 brookly red

/and he knows where you live...

According to my scientific study on this phenomenon he's probably having a one-way conversation with me at the very instant.

392 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:17:55pm

re: #372 Charles

Look at what they're making excuses for - a disturbing, incoherent rant involving shooting lots of people in the head, including Beck himself.

And they wonder why they were banned, and whine like babies, often for years, over the loss of accounts registered to fake names like "Iron Fist," often with throwaway email addresses, that they didn't pay a penny to register.

But Charles, by banning them from posting on your blog, you're infringing upon their Constitutionally protected rights of free speech.

393 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:18:13pm

re: #387 Gus 802

Now some guy whose name is Bob and was blocked is going to read that and think I was referring to him.

You weren't? ;)

394 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:18:24pm

re: #390 reine.de.tout

The one Charles mentioned - no, that stuff is NOT being done here, not even in a round-about way. Seriously. I saw something once, posted when he was drunk, or something - just awful stuff.

No, there's been a defense of Beck's statements here, tonight. In the round about way.

The comma

Call the DA

blah blah blah - round about defense.

395 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:19:14pm

re: #391 Gus 802

According to my scientific study on this phenomenon he's probably having a one-way conversation with me at the very instant.

/first you said your name was Gus... then Bob... now Charles. I think your really a chick.

396 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:19:35pm

re: #393 publicityStunted

You weren't? ;)

Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice

397 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:19:55pm

re: #394 Stanley Sea

No, there's been a defense of Beck's statements here, tonight. In the round about way.

The comma

Call the DA

blah blah blah - round about defense.

I don't think so...they were trying to determine what Beck was saying...nobody defended Beck

398 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:21:07pm

re: #395 brookly red

/first you said your name was Gus... then Bob... now Charles. I think your really a chick.

Yeah. They do that with a lot of people here from time to time.

399 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:21:14pm

re: #394 Stanley Sea

No, there's been a defense of Beck's statements here, tonight. In the round about way.

The comma

Call the DA

blah blah blah - round about defense.

blah, blah, blah... you got nothing and it is eating you up.

400 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:21:24pm

re: #397 albusteve

I don't think so...they were trying to determine what Beck was saying...nobody defended Beck

ok. I see it differently.

401 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:22:55pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

And good grief.
People are still telling their "I was banned" stories!

Because it defines them...without it, they're anonymous nobodies that no one gives two shits about.

And they know it.

402 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:23:06pm
403 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:24:29pm

Have you figured out your drag queen name yet? It's the name of your first pet and the the first street you lived on. I'm Shotzie Southwood. My husband is MaMa's Harmony.

:)

404 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:24:53pm

re: #400 Stanley Sea

You have to laugh at people who demand evidence from others when they go around posting drivel like this :)

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

Re the fourth point: if making record profits = being "terrorized", I think anyone would sign up for it :P

405 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:25:38pm

Ok, from the more knowledgable people on here, I need help. A FB "friend" of mine and I were in a debate and he brought up Malkin, saying I needed to listen to her about Liberals. I know Malkin is scum. Can some of you name specific incidents, as I don't really want to looking and make myself angry. I have been angry and bitter enough for the last 2 weeks at the right after the attempted assassination and the poll Charles showed here from CBS shortly thereafter. Frankly, I'm probably going to vent me spleen at this guy to give him an idea how angry I am.

406 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:25:43pm

re: #399 brookly red

blah, blah, blah... you got nothing and it is eating you up.

do I lol? yes I do.

407 brookly red  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:26:59pm

re: #406 Stanley Sea

do I lol? yes I do.

then put it on the table...

408 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:26:59pm

Heh...Rachel just had Michael Steele on...not a bad interview. I suspect he'll become a bit of a regular now that he doesn't have the paranoia of the GOP holding him back.

409 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:27:01pm

Well, Just got off the phone with my MIL. She was looking for recipes for Clay Pot Cookers (Yes, we have one). Suggested she log on and register not only for advice/recipes (Reine ?) but for general conversation as well. This should be fun if she does.

410 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:27:06pm

re: #403 marjoriemoon

Have you figured out your drag queen name yet? It's the name of your first pet and the the first street you lived on. I'm Shotzie Southwood. My husband is MaMa's Harmony.

:)

LOL MM!!!!

I'm

Suki Phillips Circle

grrrrr

411 JAFO  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:29:21pm

re: #402 Gus 802

In other news.

Irony.

Vatican 'troubled' by Berlusconi sex case

They're also troubled that their memos to the Irish Diocese to hide pedophiles from the police was "mis-interpreted".

412 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:29:58pm

re: #405 ProLifeLiberal

Are you aware of Malkin's book "In Defense of Internment"?

Malkin tries to justify the United States government's internment of Japanese Americans in relocation camps during World War II and extend that logic to justifying racial profiling of Arabs during the post-2001 War on Terror. The book's message has been condemned by Japanese American groups and civil rights proponents.[1][2] Its scholarship has been criticized by academics.[3][4]
413 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:30:10pm

re: #405 ProLifeLiberal

Ok, from the more knowledgable people on here, I need help. A FB "friend" of mine and I were in a debate and he brought up Malkin, saying I needed to listen to her about Liberals. I know Malkin is scum. Can some of you name specific incidents, as I don't really want to looking and make myself angry. I have been angry and bitter enough for the last 2 weeks at the right after the attempted assassination and the poll Charles showed here from CBS shortly thereafter. Frankly, I'm probably going to vent me spleen at this guy to give him an idea how angry I am.

Don't bother paying attention to Malkin. She writes for White NAtionalist website named VDARE. She's a racist and white supremacists use her as a token to deflect allegations of racism.

414 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:30:43pm

re: #409 Bubblehead II

Well, Just got off the phone with my MIL. She was looking for recipes for Clay Pot Cookers (Yes, we have one). Suggested she log on and register not only for advice/recipes (Reine ?) but for general conversation as well. This should be fun if she does.

Soak it for a half hour or so, fill it with chopped onions, garlic, bell pepper (and a jalapeno), throw in a whole fish, douche it with soy sauce, fish sauce, a splash of rice vinegar, a couple of tablespoons of Asian garlic chili sauce, and maybe a cup or so of water. Put the lid on it and stick it in the oven at 300 degrees for about 45 minutes.

415 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:31:47pm

re: #409 Bubblehead II

Well, Just got off the phone with my MIL. She was looking for recipes for Clay Pot Cookers (Yes, we have one). Suggested she log on and register not only for advice/recipes (Reine ?) but for general conversation as well. This should be fun if she does.

Alton Brown did some great stuff on clay pot cookers.

416 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:32:34pm

Oh Gabby, we wish you the best. This is kinda sad, because, it's fucking serious.

Photo shows Rep. Giffords with husband outside Tucson hospital looking at mountains - Daily Star [Link: bit.ly...]

417 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:33:14pm

re: #414 darthstar

Soak it for a half hour or so, fill it with chopped onions, garlic, bell pepper (and a jalapeno), throw in a whole fish, douche it with soy sauce, fish sauce, a splash of rice vinegar, a couple of tablespoons of Asian garlic chili sauce, and maybe a cup or so of water. Put the lid on it and stick it in the oven at 300 degrees for about 45 minutes.

Are you (and your wife) for hire?

holy shit

418 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:33:38pm

re: #408 darthstar

Heh...Rachel just had Michael Steele on...not a bad interview. I suspect he'll become a bit of a regular now that he doesn't have the paranoia of the GOP holding him back.

the gutless wonder...what can you say about a man that is afraid of getting rejected by a political party if he doesn't compromise his principles?...and if that was not the case, then he was never principled to begin with...just another hack tool for the GOP....if he was paranoid, then he brought it on himself

419 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:34:18pm

re: #410 Stanley Sea

LOL MM!!!

I'm

Suki Phillips Circle

grrr

That would be Suki Phillips and it's perfect! (I drop the "Road", "Street", "Circle" etc.

420 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:37:09pm

re: #413 Killgore Trout

Don't bother paying attention to Malkin. She writes for White NAtionalist website named VDARE. She's a racist and white supremacists use her as a token to deflect allegations of racism.

They have a whole page of her on VDARE.

421 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:37:53pm

re: #417 Stanley Sea

Are you (and your wife) for hire?

holy shit

Cooking is science, but it's not rocket science. If you like a certain flavor, play with it. If it doesn't taste good, think about what doesn't taste good about it and adjust next time...more ginger, less salt, maybe some dark cocoa powder added? Whatever works for you.

422 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:39:02pm

re: #418 albusteve

Don't throw away your token black guy so quickly...He's still a Republican, after all.

424 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:40:19pm

re: #412 publicityStunted

Vaguely, thanks for the link. And thank you for the info on her connection to VDARE.

I think I was packing when the discussion on Gun Control got detailed, and never said what my thoughts were on it. I guess I would be moderately pro-gun. I generally don't care what kind of gun someone has, so much as who has it. I think there should be stricter rules for background checks for criminal history and mental health, and restrictions on said groups. Being Autistic, I know I would be unable to own a gun. However, I see no problem with that, as I have had periods where my emotions get overly-powerful, a bad thing with guns. I do think the magazine sizes should be restricted for pistols, as they are built usually to a specific number of bullets in a magazine for a default number. Having a 30-bullet magazine for a gun that would usually have 15 is a bit excessive. Also, wouldn't a magazine that oversized change the balance of a gun some?

425 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:42:16pm

re: #423 Killgore Trout

This healthy food must be stopped!
Napolitano Suggests Wal-Mart's Healthy Foods Initiative Is In Response To A Threat From The Obama Administration

Wal-Mart's Healthy Foods Initiative is an inside job!!!11ty

426 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:43:08pm

re: #422 darthstar

Don't throw away your token black guy so quickly...He's still a Republican, after all.

my token black guy?
one of us has no clue

427 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:45:19pm

re: #423 Killgore Trout

This healthiness is being forced down our throats!

428 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:46:56pm

re: #414 darthstar

re: #415 Killgore Trout

I love the thing. Have to soak it in the bathtub, but here is my favorite.
re: #421 darthstar

Cooking is science, but it's not rocket science. If you like a certain flavor, play with it. If it doesn't taste good, think about what doesn't taste good about it and adjust next time...more ginger, less salt, maybe some dark cocoa powder added? Whatever works for you.

No, cooking is an art. Your own post makes that clear. Even if you missed it %-)

429 BishopX  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:47:15pm

re: #424 ProLifeLiberal

The primary issue with the extended magazines is wearing them in a holster. The magazine sticks out can gets in the way/snags on things. Balance isn't as big of an issue since the magazine is contained in the grip. Since your hands are (or at least should be) on the grip, there isn't any leverage (on a rifle where the points of support are offset from the magazine, this isn't true).

430 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:48:09pm

re: #423 Killgore Trout

This healthy food must be stopped!
Napolitano Suggests Wal-Mart's Healthy Foods Initiative Is In Response To A Threat From The Obama Administration

Like people who shop at Wal-Mart need a healthier diet...
Image: 2391.jpg
Image: 2388.jpg
Image: 2389.jpg
Image: 2384.jpg
Image: 2382.jpg
Image: 2371.jpg

Last one's a dude. (love the slide-show feature, Charles)

431 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:48:39pm

re: #429 BishopX

Okay, thanks for the information. My family doesn't own guns, so I don't know.

432 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:48:48pm

re: #427 jaunte

This healthiness is being forced down our throats!

Dare I say! Good health creates less of a burden on an already burdened healthcare system. Less hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, etc.

They hate so much, they don't even know what they're hating anymore.

433 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:50:02pm

re: #430 darthstar

Like people who shop at Wal-Mart need a healthier diet...
Image: 2391.jpg
Image: 2388.jpg
Image: 2389.jpg
Image: 2384.jpg
Image: 2382.jpg
Image: 2371.jpg

Last one's a dude. (love the slide-show feature, Charles)

OMG, I saw a perfect person of Wal Mart when I was there the other day, but my daughter refused to take the picture.

434 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:50:24pm
435 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:51:10pm

re: #432 marjoriemoon

I'm sure that in reaction to Michelle Obama, someone somewhere is going to do some extra overeatin.'

436 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:51:13pm

re: #434 Gus 802

I regretted clicking on that picture. Brain Bleach please.

437 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:52:01pm

re: #424 ProLifeLiberal

Vaguely, thanks for the link. And thank you for the info on her connection to VDARE.

I think I was packing when the discussion on Gun Control got detailed, and never said what my thoughts were on it. I guess I would be moderately pro-gun. I generally don't care what kind of gun someone has, so much as who has it. I think there should be stricter rules for background checks for criminal history and mental health, and restrictions on said groups. Being Autistic, I know I would be unable to own a gun. However, I see no problem with that, as I have had periods where my emotions get overly-powerful, a bad thing with guns. I do think the magazine sizes should be restricted for pistols, as they are built usually to a specific number of bullets in a magazine for a default number. Having a 30-bullet magazine for a gun that would usually have 15 is a bit excessive. Also, wouldn't a magazine that oversized change the balance of a gun some?

absolutely, and also increases the chance of jamming...they are for looks, showboating, and I see no problem having them outlawed....any proper shooter would simply catty multiple magazines, like cops do

438 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:52:47pm

re: #421 darthstar

re: #428 Bubblehead II

I think you have to find some enjoyment in cooking to be good at it. Otherwise, you just want to get it over with. I used to have more time for cooking and enjoyed it more. Now, I wish I had a personal chef.

439 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:54:14pm

re: #430 darthstar

A little exercise apparently wouldn't hurt either.
Pass the brain bleach, please?

440 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:54:54pm

re: #438 marjoriemoon

re: #428 Bubblehead II

I think you have to find some enjoyment in cooking to be good at it. Otherwise, you just want to get it over with. I used to have more time for cooking and enjoyed it more. Now, I wish I had a personal chef.

Cooking is fun...slow-cooking is extremely rewarding. I like taking bigger pieces of meat (5lb pork butt, bone-in prime rib roast, etc.) and cooking slowly over several hours. Now that I have a house, my next 'toy' will be a smoker.

441 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:55:03pm

Wow, the wingnuts on Twitter really don't like that Glenn Beck clip. Apparently, it hit home.

442 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:55:25pm

re: #429 BishopX

The primary issue with the extended magazines is wearing them in a holster. The magazine sticks out can gets in the way/snags on things. Balance isn't as big of an issue since the magazine is contained in the grip. Since your hands are (or at least should be) on the grip, there isn't any leverage (on a rifle where the points of support are offset from the magazine, this isn't true).

balance/weight is a critical issue....carrying one could be done, but that's so far fetched as to be just silly....nobody would do that, even a lunatic

443 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:55:34pm

re: #436 ProLifeLiberal

I regretted clicking on that picture. Brain Bleach please.

Do not click on this!

Image: 573.jpg

444 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:55:41pm

re: #432 marjoriemoon

Dare I say! Good health creates less of a burden on an already burdened healthcare system. Less hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, etc.

They hate so much, they don't even know what they're hating anymore.

Here's a (possibly) related experiment in repackaging carrots to disguise them as a more appealing junk food:
[Link: www.thedieline.com...]

445 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:55:50pm

Count the artificial ingredients:
Image: 2370.jpg

446 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:56:12pm

re: #443 Gus 802

Do not click on this!

Image: 573.jpg


Baby's got back(boobs)!

447 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:56:19pm

re: #434 Gus 802

Image: 1464.jpg

Ugh. Michelle Obama is WRONG, isn't she!!!

448 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:56:33pm

re: #437 albusteve

absolutely, and also increases the chance of jamming...they are for looks, showboating, and I see no problem having them outlawed...any proper shooter would simply catty multiple magazines, like cops do

First, thank you for enlightening me on how that works.

Unfortunately, the end of the sentence caused me to search and post the following picture, which can be described as a WTF.

Here

449 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:58:09pm

re: #448 ProLifeLiberal

There's a Hello Kitty AK-47 out there as well...$1500 though...that's a lot to pay for a gun just so you can fuck with the manliness of the camo-dudes around you at the range.

450 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:58:35pm

re: #447 Stanley Sea

Ugh. Michelle Obama is WRONG, isn't she!!!

There is nothing you can say or show that will convince some people (even around here) that we have to try SOMETHING to address the obesity epidemic. The public health crisis caused by 25% of the population being diabetic is going to make the health impact of smoking seem like an outbreak of pink eye.

451 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:58:39pm

re: #448 ProLifeLiberal

Sheriff Arpaio branching out?

452 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:58:53pm

So let's see. A healthy diet is actually a way of taking personal responsibility for oneself. I thought that was a conservative value. It also lowers health cares costs and reduces government spending on medical expenditures for the uninsured.

453 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:59:01pm

re: #445 darthstar

Count the artificial ingredients:
Image: 2370.jpg

a babies head?....how much per pound are those?

454 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:59:09pm

re: #449 darthstar

There's a Hello Kitty AK-47 out there as well...$1500 though...that's a lot to pay for a gun just so you can fuck with the manliness of the camo-dudes around you at the range.

I think the idea is that it's for the gun-totin mammas.

455 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:59:59pm

re: #448 ProLifeLiberal

First, thank you for enlightening me on how that works.

Unfortunately, the end of the sentence caused me to search and post the following picture, which can be described as a WTF.

Here

yeah, that cute little thing used to get posted once in a while

456 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:00:39pm

re: #455 albusteve

yeah, that cute little thing used to get posted once in a while

You want one, dontcha. Come on. You can admit it.

457 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:00:42pm

re: #449 darthstar

Those two things seem to be something that don't usually go together, which is why it seems so strange to me.

458 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:01:39pm

HA! We've got a biter!
Image: 2367.jpg

459 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:01:51pm

re: #456 marjoriemoon

You want one, dontcha. Come on. You can admit it.

I'm a pistol and shotgun guy...manly man stuff

460 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:01:57pm

I'm just amazed at how many people seem to not have a mirror in their home. Who the heck would leave their house knowing they looked like a person of WalMart?

461 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:02:52pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

462 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:02:54pm

re: #460 reine.de.tout

I'm just amazed at how many people seem to not have a mirror in their home. Who the heck would leave their house knowing they looked like a person of WalMart?

In all honesty, I think some of those folks aren't well. Not gun killin crazy, just... well... not well.

463 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:03:48pm

re: #462 marjoriemoon

In all honesty, I think some of those folks aren't well. Not gun killin crazy, just... well... not well.

Man can not live by watching Glenn Beck alone. Food is necessary.

464 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:06:23pm

re: #342 Charles

A transcript of Beck's incoherent rant at Fox News:

I was going to say that Beck is a toad, but I like toads, and consider them to have balanced political opinions.

That said, I'm suddenly reminded of a scene in one of Ruth McKinney's books, where her sister is complaining about one of their mutual friends from American Communist circles, who criticizes her for not being class-conscious, and wearing Japanese-made stockings. "Someone ought to shoot him," Eileen says, "and the best part is, somebody probably will someday."

465 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:07:17pm

re: #344 WindUpBird

we know dude, you're the shining paladin of truth, glory and righteousness, haloed in sunlight and surrounded by doves bearing banners ;-)

He's from Brooklyn. Those are probably pigeons.

But at least the pigeons are bearing banners. In Brazil or someplace, a pigeon got intercepted trying to carry drugs into a prison.

466 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:07:42pm

re: #460 reine.de.tout

I'm just amazed at how many people seem to not have a mirror in their home. Who the heck would leave their house knowing they looked like a person of WalMart?

If you made it your life's goal to not wind up being a "person of WalMart", you would, by default, avoid so many bad things...

467 Virginia Plain  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:08:40pm

re: #443 Gus 802

Do not click on this!

Image: 573.jpg

Oh my goodness! It's like she has boobs on her back!

468 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:08:47pm

Splodey head Tweet.

469 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:08:56pm

re: #367 jaunte

one side is going to eat the other
(free verse by G. Beck)
rivers of blood
boot on their throat
it is dangerous, what is happening
extraordinarily disturbing
a lot of them have called for violent revolution
you want to know why Washington doesn't reflect you?
because they don't understand
shoot me in the head if you try to change our government
they believe in communism
you're going to have to shoot them in the head
but warning, they may shoot you
the revolution of 1776 was a picnic
compared to what the revolutionaries of today would like to do.
it's not a lot of fun. Usually, millions of people die
I don't know what side Barney Frank is on
there is a war happening
I've got news, gang
you are not in the spectator stands
the socialism of Europe is not enough for radicals
this same kind of revolutionaries with the same kind of think
have their hooks in us now
we have their handbook and much more tomorrow
read it and prepare

I say he and Amiri Baraka should have an open-mike throw-down. I hate them both, so I would be an impartial judge.

470 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:09:14pm

re: #463 darthstar

Man can not live by watching Glenn Beck alone. Food is necessary.

And beer, don't forget the beer!

471 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:09:25pm

re: #466 publicityStunted

If you made it your life's goal to not wind up being a "person of WalMart", you would, by default, avoid so many bad things...

Truth!
I shop at WalMart.
However, I'm most definitely NOT a "person of WalMart".
And while it's not exactly my life's goal, I do make it a point I watch out for.

472 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:10:33pm

check out this vid....really funny
watch where your texting!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

473 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:10:43pm

re: #402 Gus 802

In other news.

Irony.

Vatican 'troubled' by Berlusconi sex case

Well, so am I, but frankly, I find their being troubled by THIS rather hilarious. And troubling.

474 Virginia Plain  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:10:52pm

I am a Target person, and no I haven't seen anyone like the shoppers at Walmart. Then again, even at Wallys in Colorado, I haven't seen a typical Wally shopper.

475 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:12:31pm

re: #471 reine.de.tout

Truth!
I shop at WalMart.
However, I'm most definitely NOT a "person of WalMart".
And while it's not exactly my life's goal, I do make it a point I watch out for.

don't sweat it...all kinds of people shop there, but ridiculing a certain class is fun these days

476 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:12:40pm

re: #431 ProLifeLiberal

Okay, thanks for the information. My family doesn't own guns, so I don't know.

I'm reasonably sure that my relatives have all of the ones you statistically should own.

Don't worry, they're taking good care of them.

477 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:13:26pm

Instapudnit is now linking to Patterico's "shoot them in the head" defense of Beck.

478 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:14:03pm

re: #433 reine.de.tout

OMG, I saw a perfect person of Wal Mart when I was there the other day, but my daughter refused to take the picture.

When I told my mother about People of Wal-Mart, she was worried that it was
'just making fun of fat people'. I assured her you had to be a whole lot more interesting than just FAT to make it to People of Wal-Mart.

479 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:14:21pm

re: #475 albusteve

don't sweat it...all kinds of people shop there, but ridiculing a certain class is fun these days

Steve - our WalMart parking lot has LOTS of Mercedes and Jaguars in it.
And if I go on a Sunday, no matter what time of day, I will run into Bobby Jindal's mom and dad, and they will be in the produce section. I sometimes wonder if they spend their entire Sundays in the produce section of WalMart.

480 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:14:32pm

re: #435 jaunte

I'm sure that in reaction to Michelle Obama, someone somewhere is going to do some extra overeatin.'

Well, Sarah Palin is already dedicating desserts to her.

481 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:14:54pm

I just found a song that I'll play whenever I hear Republican intolerance towards people. It's from Peter, Paul, and Mary. It is called "Listen Mr. Bilbo (Mr. Bigot)"

482 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:15:15pm

re: #478 SanFranciscoZionist

When I told my mother about People of Wal-Mart, she was worried that it was
'just making fun of fat people'. I assured her you had to be a whole lot more interesting than just FAT to make it to People of Wal-Mart.

Oh, my yes.
You have to be at least bordering on eccentric.

483 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:16:10pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

Instapudnit is now linking to Patterico's "shoot them in the head" defense of Beck.

Instaputz strikes again! It's fun watching them squirm because Glenn Beck did say "you're going to have to shoot them in the head". Future tense and referring to "radicals" in DC. EIEIO!

484 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:16:18pm

re: #469 SanFranciscoZionist

I wonder if that needed a little more owl.

485 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:17:17pm

BTW, I fail to see how Patterico's interpretation of Beck's comment is any better. Beck is still telling his audience that progressives are going to shoot them in the head and they might die defending themselves.

486 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:18:09pm

I tend to shop at food co-ops and organic markets, but even there you will find a fair share of freaks. Now I'm retraining myself to use farmer's markets on weekends to try and cut costs.

487 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:19:24pm

re: #483 Gus 802

Instaputz strikes again! It's fun watching them squirm because Glenn Beck did say "you're going to have to shoot them in the head". Future tense and referring to "radicals" in DC. EIEIO!

I don't even know why they're so upset. This isn't the most outrageous thing he's ever said. His show tonight was about the mind controlling jews again with their progressive nazi tactics. He does this kind of thing every day of the week.

488 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:20:47pm

re: #487 Killgore Trout

I don't even know why they're so upset. This isn't the most outrageous thing he's ever said. His show tonight was about the mind controlling jews again with their progressive nazi tactics. He does this kind of thing every day of the week.

Clearly Glenn Beck's their man. You think that by now they would have "embraced the crazy" and just move on.

489 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:21:19pm

re: #486 darthstar

I tend to shop at food co-ops and organic markets, but even there you will find a fair share of freaks. Now I'm retraining myself to use farmer's markets on weekends to try and cut costs.

I'm finally getting away from the supermarkets myself. It takes a lot of scouting but I've found some independent butchers, fishmarkets and veg sellers close to me. All very good quality and very reasonably priced.

490 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:21:27pm

Well totally screwed that one up. But I promise, you will get my clay pot recipe for Honey Dijon Chicken tomorrow.

(Only if Reine promises to include it in Vol #3 of the LGF Cookbook). ;-)

491 BishopX  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:21:44pm

re: #486 darthstar


Have you looks into CSA's (sometimes called farm shares) near you? You give the farmer a lump some before the crops go in, and you get a box or two of veggies for the rest of the season. It's typically cheaper than farmers markets.

492 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:22:49pm

re: #487 Killgore Trout

I don't even know why they're so upset. This isn't the most outrageous thing he's ever said. His show tonight was about the mind controlling jews again with their progressive nazi tactics. He does this kind of thing every day of the week.

Oh, but this quote is TIMELY.

scared frauds

493 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:23:27pm

re: #479 reine.de.tout

Steve - our WalMart parking lot has LOTS of Mercedes and Jaguars in it.
And if I go on a Sunday, no matter what time of day, I will run into Bobby Jindal's mom and dad, and they will be in the produce section. I sometimes wonder if they spend their entire Sundays in the produce section of WalMart.

I don't like to comment really because it's not my gig.

However, if someone caught Beck on camera in Wally World wearing a pair of Spongebob jammies and 5" F* me pumps, not only would I look, but I wouldn't be the least surprised.

494 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:24:15pm

re: #486 darthstar

I tend to shop at food co-ops and organic markets, but even there you will find a fair share of freaks. Now I'm retraining myself to use farmer's markets on weekends to try and cut costs.

Freaks are everywhere!!!

495 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:24:23pm

re: #490 Bubblehead II

Well totally screwed that one up. But I promise, you will get my clay pot recipe for Honey Dijon Chicken tomorrow.

(Only if Reine promises to include it in Vol #3 of the LGF Cookbook). ;-)

Heh.
I wouldn't mind doing a volume 3, if there's interest. I think Jaunte would probably be on board, as well.

496 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:24:32pm

Michelle Bachmann wants to "repeal a president" and "repeal the current Senate."
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

497 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:26:16pm

re: #496 jaunte

Michelle Bachmann wants to "repeal a president" and "repeal the current Senate."
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I saw that earlier! Couldn't figure out what the heck she meant. How do you repeal a person? How do you repeal a legislative body as a whole? Is "repeal" the only word she knows? Inquiring minds are dying to know . . .

498 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:26:38pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

I'm finally getting away from the supermarkets myself. It takes a lot of scouting but I've found some independent butchers, fishmarkets and veg sellers close to me. All very good quality and very reasonably priced.


I now live walking distance from the docks at Half Moon Bay. I suspect my intake of fish will go up in the coming months, and when the stripers start running, I'll be taking the dogs on a morning jog along the beach so I can throw out a nice heavy jig or rubber eel. I have a crab net, so I'll be getting my own dungeness crab.

499 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:26:58pm

Splodey heads!

Obama's approval rating jumps
At the midpoint of Obama's term, an NBC News/Wall Street poll shows an 8-percentage-point increase since December, to 53%, and Gallup says more independent voters now approve of his performance.

500 What, me worry?  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:27:08pm

re: #487 Killgore Trout

I don't even know why they're so upset. This isn't the most outrageous thing he's ever said. His show tonight was about the mind controlling jews again with their progressive nazi tactics. He does this kind of thing every day of the week.

I think it's pretty well up there with mind controlling Jews. From the link:

They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

So, you know, they're already armed. Better get them before they get you.

501 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:27:37pm

re: #497 reine.de.tout

Maybe she settled on repeal as a noncontroversial word that can be used on all occasions.

502 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:28:04pm

re: #501 jaunte

Maybe she settled on repeal as a noncontroversial word that can be used on all occasions.

It's an all-purpose word!

503 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:28:04pm

re: #495 reine.de.tout

I'd freaking contribute this time.

504 Gus  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:28:25pm

re: #501 jaunte

Maybe she settled on repeal as a noncontroversial word that can be used on all occasions.

Repeal the brain cell killing Tea Party caucus!

/

505 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:28:56pm

re: #495 reine.de.tout

Heh.
I wouldn't mind doing a volume 3, if there's interest. I think Jaunte would probably be on board, as well.

I've got a few recipes I'd like to contribute too.

506 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:30:06pm

Well, y'all go ahead and e-mail them to me. I already have a few, and i'll hang onto what you send me in the event we do it again.

507 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:31:59pm

re: #502 reine.de.tout

I enjoyed the historical unconsciousness of Bachmann calling the health care law
the "crown jewel of socialism."

508 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:34:38pm

re: #495 reine.de.tout

Heh.
I wouldn't mind doing a volume 3, if there's interest. I think Jaunte would probably be on board, as well.

Any takers? I know we all liked the first two.

509 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:36:24pm

re: #498 darthstar

I now live walking distance from the docks at Half Moon Bay. I suspect my intake of fish will go up in the coming months, and when the stripers start running, I'll be taking the dogs on a morning jog along the beach so I can throw out a nice heavy jig or rubber eel. I have a crab net, so I'll be getting my own dungeness crab.

Nice! Don't forget about mussels!

510 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:36:43pm

re: #508 Bubblehead II

Any takers? I know we all liked the first two.

I have a few recipes I've grabbed as people have posted them and some folks have sent me some. So . . . if there's interest, folks can e-mail me. But there is no instant gratification, once we get started it's a bit of a loooong-term project, just time consuming and then jaunte does his thing while also trying to work so . . . but I'm game.

511 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:37:12pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

Instapundit is now linking to Patterico's "shoot them in the head" defense of Beck.

King of the passive aggressive link.

512 darthstar  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:38:30pm

re: #509 Killgore Trout

Nice! Don't forget about mussels!

We do an annual mussel-fest about 40 miles south of here with friends. We meet at Davenport beach on a low tide day, pull about 20lbs of mussels off the rocks, and cook them a few ways - steamed with garlic, steamed with asian flavors, etc. - and drink a few bottles of wine...makes for a nice day.

513 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:39:08pm

re: #510 reine.de.tout

I'm in too. It's easier if we do a little bit each week, instead of a big chunk all at once.

514 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:40:18pm

re: #493 marjoriemoon

a pair of Spongebob jammies and 5" F* me pumps

my sister in law manages to dress like this and make it look good

one of my favorite outfits of hers involves a shiny silver dress and knee high pink furry astro boy boots

515 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:40:53pm

re: #510 reine.de.tout

I have a few recipes I've grabbed as people have posted them and some folks have sent me some. So . . . if there's interest, folks can e-mail me. But there is no instant gratification, once we get started it's a bit of a looong-term project, just time consuming and then jaunte does his thing while also trying to work so . . . but I'm game.

I've been putting off posting more food/garden stuff in the link until a little later when people are starting to plan gardens again in the early spring. I plan to start tweeting them to the food areas of twitter hoping to attract some more foodies.

516 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:41:54pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

Instapudnit is now linking to Patterico's "shoot them in the head" defense of Beck.


i think "diminished capacity" would be my approach for a defense of beck

517 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:44:41pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

I'm finally getting away from the supermarkets myself. It takes a lot of scouting but I've found some independent butchers, fishmarkets and veg sellers close to me. All very good quality and very reasonably priced.

There's a small grocery store near my house that sells nice, cheap local produce. Everything else is priced at hilarious yuppie prices, but the fruit and veg is cheap and good. (Also, the owner occasionally issues a newsletter with his grandma's Italian recipes).

518 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:47:54pm

re: #514 engineer dog

my sister in law manages to dress like this and make it look good

one of my favorite outfits of hers involves a shiny silver dress and knee high pink furry astro boy boots

OH


AWESOME

519 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:48:31pm

re: #517 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a small grocery store near my house that sells nice, cheap local produce. Everything else is priced at hilarious yuppie prices, but the fruit and veg is cheap and good. (Also, the owner occasionally issues a newsletter with his grandma's Italian recipes).

It's amazing how the local grocer's work. I have the same. One good for produce, one good for wine. one reasonable for last minutes. 3 different local grocers.

520 prairiefire  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:52:29pm

re: #493 marjoriemoon

What a visual!

521 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:56:48pm

re: #510 reine.de.tout

I have a few recipes I've grabbed as people have posted them and some folks have sent me some. So . . . if there's interest, folks can e-mail me. But there is no instant gratification, once we get started it's a bit of a looong-term project, just time consuming and then jaunte does his thing while also trying to work so . . . but I'm game.

Well Lizards, are we on? Vol. 3 of the LGF Cookbook? Let's rock. Perhaps a slow cook/crock pot section? Reine, Jaunte, Thanks for even considering doing it for a third time.

522 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:57:46pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

Instapudnit is now linking to Patterico's "shoot them in the head" defense of Beck.

My favorite thing is the people going MAN I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW LGF WAS ONLINE I TOTALLY DON'T CARE AND YET I WILL POST MULTIPLE COMMENTS CLAIMING I DON'T CARE

523 webevintage  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:58:42pm

Good evening.....

I'm so glad I had my kid almost 19 years ago because, really, the fetus/baby worship in this country is just a bit out of control.
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

524 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:59:14pm

re: #510 reine.de.tout

I have a few recipes I've grabbed as people have posted them and some folks have sent me some. So . . . if there's interest, folks can e-mail me. But there is no instant gratification, once we get started it's a bit of a looong-term project, just time consuming and then jaunte does his thing while also trying to work so . . . but I'm game.

How about an outrageous outrage theme? 'Forced down our throats' salads, and
'Socialist Crown Jewel' desserts.

525 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:01:07pm

My rib cage is really sore when I breathe in and out. It didn't kick in until just now because first, when I was freaking out I didn't really feel much pain. Then, I took a Vicodin.

I'd ask for a hug, but it would hurt too bad.

526 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:03:34pm

re: #525 Alouette

Smooches Alouette, softly on the cheek.

527 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:05:13pm

re: #524 jaunte

How about an outrageous outrage theme? 'Forced down our throats' salads, and
'Socialist Crown Jewel' desserts.

Conspiracy Cocktails?

528 JAFO  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:07:32pm

A Vicodin really doesn't work well without a rum and Coke.

529 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:09:23pm

re: #527 Stanley Sea

One chilled Alinskytini, shaken, not stirred, garnished with a large maraschino Soros.

530 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:10:54pm

re: #510 reine.de.tout

I have a few recipes I've grabbed as people have posted them and some folks have sent me some. So . . . if there's interest, folks can e-mail me. But there is no instant gratification, once we get started it's a bit of a looong-term project, just time consuming and then jaunte does his thing while also trying to work so . . . but I'm game.

I've got a couple of goodies I'd be up for sharing. If it's a go, I'll get in touch.

531 jaunte  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:11:10pm

Roger Ebert: Leading with my chin

532 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:12:33pm

Some asshole stalker posted at my blog, nominating Charles for "Doofus of the Year." That made me think I should have nominated the stalkers, but my blog is not about stalking stalkers. I just deleted the posts.

533 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:12:39pm

re: #529 jaunte

One chilled Alinskytini, shaken, not stirred, garnished with a large maraschino Soros.

LOL

534 laZardo  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:14:32pm
6. JOHN AZZARELLI, also known as "Johnny Cash"

How...appropriate.

535 sizzleRI  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:15:23pm

re: #523 webevintage

Good evening...

I'm so glad I had my kid almost 19 years ago because, really, the fetus/baby worship in this country is just a bit out of control.
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

Yes Yes, well I'm sure you understand that while pregnant you stop actually being a person.

Kind of like mom jeans?

536 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:16:40pm

re: #525 Alouette

My rib cage is really sore when I breathe in and out. It didn't kick in until just now because first, when I was freaking out I didn't really feel much pain. Then, I took a Vicodin.

I'd ask for a hug, but it would hurt too bad.

((Alouette)) It's probably some bruising and strain from your seat belt. That's what happened to me when I was in an accident. I didn't hurt at all and then a few hours later it appeared. It hurt to breathe and it hurt right across my ribs.

I also ended up with a horrible back neck thing that took several hours to appear as well, if you were going to get something like that you'd likely know by now though.

537 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:16:45pm

Heh. My lastname is on that list. No relation, of course.

538 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:17:42pm

Lizard, time to call it night. I will be going through our (70% are the Mrs) cookbooks for those recipes that I like and think the Lizard Nation would like as well. She even has some Cast Iron/Dutch Oven recipes that I am willing to try.

Will have to dig and line a fire pit to do them though. On the other hand, wonder if I could get away with a dirt filled 1/2 barrel? Any suggestions?

539 prairiefire  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:18:05pm

Oh my law, Todd Palin with a "massuese"?[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

540 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:19:35pm

re: #513 jaunte

I'm in too. It's easier if we do a little bit each week, instead of a big chunk all at once.

Sounds good to me.

541 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:19:56pm

re: #531 jaunte

Roger Ebert: Leading with my chin

Roger Ebert has, through his twitter feed (& his Chicago Sun Times Blog) taken me where I never would have gone. I love him.

It's amazing that a superbly smart voice just got better once it was lost.

Love Roger.

542 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:21:57pm

re: #525 Alouette

My rib cage is really sore when I breathe in and out. It didn't kick in until just now because first, when I was freaking out I didn't really feel much pain. Then, I took a Vicodin.

I'd ask for a hug, but it would hurt too bad.

{Alouette}
So sorry - I saw your earlier comments about the incident today.

My neighbor was in a wreck, and had a lot of bruising and pain from the seatbelt as well as the car's airbag, which deployed. They'll save your life or save you from severe injury, but those things can also injure you. I hope you're better soon. A check-up with your doc might be in order, just to be sure.

543 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:24:46pm

re: #539 prairiefire

Oh my law, Todd Palin with a "massuese"?[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

If you read it in the National Enquirer, you know it's so.

///

544 Stanghazi  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:26:03pm

re: #539 prairiefire


re: #543 SanFranciscoZionist

If anything, I hope this falsity on America is circling the drain.

545 JAFO  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:31:26pm

Now we know where Bristol's baby's name came from. I cringe as I type that.

546 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:31:34pm

re: #543 SanFranciscoZionist

If you read it in the National Enquirer, you know it's so.

///

What was that about Edwards? :eek:

547 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:32:34pm

re: #546 wlewisiii

What was that about Edwards? :eek:

Aaah. Just because they got one scoop doesn't mean they're not a rag.

548 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:33:01pm

re: #543 SanFranciscoZionist

If you read it in the National Enquirer, you know it's so.

///

Weren't they the "lead" in the Edwards' affair?

549 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:36:06pm

re: #539 prairiefire

"My sources reveal that a massage therapist and computer technologist, SHAILEY TRIPP, had an affair with Todd Palin that lead (sic) to her arrest March of 2010," claimed the anonymous e-mail.


Hmmm... "computer technologist"... I wonder with what "computer technology" she is skilled? Perhaps AdultFriendFinder???

550 prairiefire  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:37:15pm

re: #549 freetoken

Hmmm... "computer technologist"... I wonder with what "computer technology" she is skilled? Perhaps AdultFriendFinder???

Web cam technoligist.

551 JAFO  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:44:03pm

I hope this isn't true. I like to mock her for her pandering and senseless rhetoric, I don't want to see her publicly humiliated, and I always like to see the Enquirer with egg on their face.

552 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:46:55pm

re: #539 prairiefire

Oh my law, Todd Palin with a "massuese"?[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]


Duh. I thought it you said Todd Palin was a masseusse at one time. My brain when in an entirely different direction of thought.

553 JAFO  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:47:21pm

re: #552 Jadespring

Duh. I thought it you said Todd Palin was a masseusse at one time. My brain when in an entirely different direction of thought.

Awesome

554 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:47:25pm

re: #551 mracb

It's pretty light on details. Probably nothing there.

555 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:48:30pm

re: #551 mracb

I hope this isn't true. I like to mock her for her pandering and senseless rhetoric, I don't want to see her publicly humiliated, and I always like to see the Enquirer with egg on their face.

I wouldn't like to see the kids traumatized, and I would hate to see a long marriage wrecked by this sort of mess.

Also, I, personally, don't want to suffer through the media circus that would be a Palin divorce. It's a selfish reaction, I know.

556 lostlakehiker  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:49:53pm

re: #87 Fozzie Bear

A world that truly contains strong elements of chance isn't really compatible with a worldview based on a highly active and responsive God, who has a plan.

What it is compatible with is a world in which the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike. This kind of world can seem for all the world like chance is at play, except way down the road when the plan unfolds.

What's more, our understanding of chance and determinism is muddled. Are the digits of pi random? No. They're each determined, one after the other, by calculation. Well, then, subject them to some statistical tests. As many as you like. They're random.

But they're not.

Now, was where the bullet went random? Probably. But to believe otherwise isn't philosophically preposterous.

557 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:53:37pm

re: #554 Obdicut

It's pretty light on details. Probably nothing there.

They got burned bad by the Carol Burnett lawsuit (along with other messes) and have been fairly careful since. If they published this they believe, correctly or not, that they can back it up in court.

I'd bet a small amount of money on it now.

As SFZ said, they are a rag & the worst of the bunch in many ways. But unlike some "news" agencies they have been forced to pay for mistakes and wish to avoid doing so again.

Make of that what you will.

558 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:54:11pm

"computer technologist"

hmmm, not familiar with this job title in the software engineer universe. however, the interwebs yields this summary of a "computer technologist" resume:

•Administered organization’s database, using database management system to organize and store data.
•Determined user requirements, sets up computer databases and tests and coordinates changes.
•Activities involved interaction with development and end-user personnel to determine application data access requirements, transaction rates, volume analysis, and other pertinent data required to develop and maintain integrated databases.

559 prairiefire  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:57:16pm

re: #554 Obdicut

It's pretty light on details. Probably nothing there.


An anonymous , paid source. I say "paid" because I think the mag pays $500 to just about anybody.

560 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:57:21pm

re: #555 SanFranciscoZionist

I wouldn't like to see the kids traumatized, and I would hate to see a long marriage wrecked by this sort of mess.

Also, I, personally, don't want to suffer through the media circus that would be a Palin divorce. It's a selfish reaction, I know.

I get the feeling that even if it's true they wouldn't divorce anyways. Would have to be real, real bad. Totally speculative and based on a couple of clips from her tv show but I think they're not really 'close' right now anyways.

And even if that's true I don't think it's a huge deal anyways. Wouldn't be the first marriage or long married couple that stays together on the outside for reasons other then totally loving each other.

561 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:57:57pm

re: #557 wlewisiii

They've couched it all as 'rumors are swirling', not "We know".

Anyway, I'm going to bed. Have a good night, all.

562 lostlakehiker  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:01:19pm

re: #452 Gus 802

So let's see. A healthy diet is actually a way of taking personal responsibility for oneself. I thought that was a conservative value. It also lowers health cares costs and reduces government spending on medical expenditures for the uninsured.

So it is. Republicans should be holding parades in honor of Michelle Obama's idea on this point. She's right. It's that simple. Get behind it.

563 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:07:47pm

This is interesting.

Walmart and Weight Gain

Two economists tracked extensive health and population data between 1996 and 2005, a period in which 1,569 supercentres — which sell groceries along with household products — opened across the U.S.

Of Walmart's 323 stores in Canada, 119 are supercentres.

The researchers found that one new Walmart supercentre per 100,000 residents meant an average weight gain of 1.5 pounds per person sometime over a 10-year period dating from the store's opening. It also boosted the obesity rate by 2.3 percentage points, meaning that for every 100 people, two who weren't obese ended up in that category after a superstore opened.

"I think the most obvious story is that Walmart lowers the price of foods and a lot of the foods it has big price advantages on are the processed, inner-aisle types of food that aren't that good for you," said Charles Courtemanche, an assistant professor of economics at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro.

"It's not just about Walmart underselling the competitor. It's about the competitors cutting their prices in response to competition from Walmart. Someone might never step foot in a Walmart, but they still might pay less for their food."

Women, low-income families and people living in less densely populated areas are those most likely to put on weight after the arrival of a supercentre, according to Courtemanche and his co-author, Art Carden at Rhodes College.


Read more: [Link: www.montrealgazette.com...]

564 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:08:24pm

re: #555 SanFranciscoZionist

I wouldn't like to see the kids traumatized, and I would hate to see a long marriage wrecked by this sort of mess.

Also, I, personally, don't want to suffer through the media circus that would be a Palin divorce. It's a selfish reaction, I know.

It's probably not true. Anyways. I don't care what the Palins, Clintons or Kenedy's do with their genitals. None of my business.

565 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:08:27pm

re: #560 Jadespring

I get the feeling that even if it's true they wouldn't divorce anyways. Would have to be real, real bad. Totally speculative and based on a couple of clips from her tv show but I think they're not really 'close' right now anyways.

And even if that's true I don't think it's a huge deal anyways. Wouldn't be the first marriage or long married couple that stays together on the outside for reasons other then totally loving each other.

Given Sarah's schedule these days, she could hardly help being less close to her husband than in the recent past. But he's worked in the oil field in the past and that kept him away from her for extended periods. Whatever else is true, Todd and Sarah Palin have a marriage that's survivable against physical separation.

566 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:12:02pm

re: #563 Jadespring

This is interesting.

Walmart and Weight Gain


Read more: [Link: www.montrealgazette.com...]

It should also be noted, though, that Wal-Marts also sell fresh foods whose absence in the inner city is often decried in the "food deserts" concept. Indeed, Wal-Mark used to fact that they sell fresh produce to help convince the Chicago city council to allow them to open stores within the city limits. So, an effective argument can be made the other way too.

567 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:13:02pm

re: #563 Jadespring

The researchers found that one new Walmart supercentre per 100,000 residents meant an average weight gain of 1.5 pounds per person sometime over a 10-year period dating from the store's opening. It also boosted the obesity rate by 2.3 percentage points, meaning that for every 100 people, two who weren't obese ended up in that category after a superstore opened.


I'm not buying it. Too many variables. How does that compare with non-walmart areas? People are getting fat in China and Europe too but it's not walmart. It's not even Mcdonalds. I'm pretty convinced it's just chemical laden processed food. It doesn't matter where they actually purchase the crap.

568 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:15:49pm

re: #566 Dark_Falcon

It should also be noted, though, that Wal-Marts also sell fresh foods whose absence in the inner city is often decried in the "food deserts" concept. Indeed, Wal-Mark used to fact that they sell fresh produce to help convince the Chicago city council to allow them to open stores within the city limits. So, an effective argument can be made the other way too.

I not sure what argument your suggesting is being made in the first place.

All I see from this particular study is a correlation being made. According to the authors it's unclear exactly what has caused this or the specific mechinism involved. They make some speculations but that's it.

569 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:18:25pm

re: #567 Killgore Trout

I'm not buying it. Too many variables. How does that compare with non-walmart areas? People are getting fat in China and Europe too but it's not walmart. It's not even Mcdonalds. I'm pretty convinced it's just chemical laden processed food. It doesn't matter where they actually purchase the crap.


Exactly

How many meals nowadays are made "from scratch"?

Buy a jar of Prego,, a box of "pasta" and in 15 minutes ,, DINNER!

Look at the frozen food sections in the supermarkets. Dozens of varieties of 'complete dinners"

570 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:20:03pm

re: #567 Killgore Trout

It's also the sheer VOLUME of what people eat. Doesn't matter where the food comes from.

571 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:20:06pm

re: #567 Killgore Trout

I'm not buying it. Too many variables. How does that compare with non-walmart areas? People are getting fat in China and Europe too but it's not walmart. It's not even Mcdonalds. I'm pretty convinced it's just chemical laden processed food. It doesn't matter where they actually purchase the crap.

Well I would check out the actual study before completely discounting it. All this is is a news article about it. The authors said they controlled for a whole number of variables but didn't go into detail.

They also said this doesn't mean leap to "It's Walmarts fault or Walmart is to blame'.

And I agree with the processed food angle and one of the suggestions seems to be that places like Walmart provide cheaper and more access to such foods making it more likely that people will buy them. They also suggest other factors could be involved.

572 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:20:49pm

re: #568 Jadespring

I not sure what argument your suggesting is being made in the first place.

All I see from this particular study is a correlation being made. According to the authors it's unclear exactly what has caused this or the specific mechinism involved. They make some speculations but that's it.

I'm suggesting that by selling selling fresh food where it might otherwise be unavailable, an argument could be made that Wal-Mart actually reduces obesity. I'm saying that the facts cut both ways.

573 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:22:43pm

I dunno.
Blaming WalMart for obesity is almost as weird an idea as blaming Michelle Obama for increased pedestrian deaths.

Just doesn't seem to me there's any there there.

574 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:23:08pm

re: #567 Killgore Trout

I'm not buying it. Too many variables. How does that compare with non-walmart areas? People are getting fat in China and Europe too but it's not walmart. It's not even Mcdonalds. I'm pretty convinced it's just chemical laden processed food. It doesn't matter where they actually purchase the crap.

The link goes on:

"I think the most obvious story is that Walmart lowers the price of foods and a lot of the foods it has big price advantages on are the processed, inner-aisle types of food that aren't that good for you," said Charles Courtemanche, an assistant professor of economics at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro.

"It's not just about Walmart underselling the competitor. It's about the competitors cutting their prices in response to competition from Walmart. Someone might never step foot in a Walmart, but they still might pay less for their food."

So, given the correlation they are now trying to come up with hypotheses to explain it.

The lowering of food price is an interesting idea and certainly is congruent with the American experience overall of having more calories/household.

575 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:23:19pm

re: #572 Dark_Falcon

Nonsense, don't you know that Wallmart is EVIL?
////

576 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:23:19pm

re: #570 Floral Giraffe

It's also the sheer VOLUME of what people eat. Doesn't matter where the food comes from.

You mean, when you go to an All You Can Eat buffet, you're not supposed to eat All You Can Eat !?!?!?

577 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:24:11pm

re: #574 freetoken

The link goes on:

So, given the correlation they are now trying to come up with hypotheses to explain it.

The lowering of food price is an interesting idea and certainly is congruent with the American experience overall of having more calories/household.

It seems to me lowering the price of food so that more people can afford to buy food is a pretty good idea.

578 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:24:47pm

re: #576 sattv4u2

You mean, when you go to an All You Can Eat buffet, you're not supposed to eat All You Can Eat !?!?!?

Abusing the privilege of buffet!
For shame.

579 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:25:04pm

re: #575 Floral Giraffe

Nonsense, don't you know that Wallmart is EVIL?
///

Not sure about Wal Mart in general,,, but there's a greeter at my local one that I believe was in the SS (miserable ole bastard!)!!
//

580 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:25:09pm

re: #572 Dark_Falcon

I'm suggesting that by selling selling fresh food where it might otherwise be unavailable, an argument could be made that Wal-Mart actually reduces obesity. I'm saying that the facts cut both ways.

I don't see the argument being made that Wal-Mart increases obesity either only that there is something going related to weight gain when it comes into a locale. To me it has more to do with peoples relation to 'food' and buying food then it does with Walmart.

581 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:25:50pm

re: #577 reine.de.tout

It seems to me lowering the price of food so that more people can afford to buy food is a pretty good idea.

Given our programmed (via evolution) ability to store energy what increased food availability has done in industrialized countries, where people already have what is biologically necessary, has definitely led to obesity.

582 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:26:35pm

re: #475 albusteve

don't sweat it...all kinds of people shop there, but ridiculing a certain class is fun these days

I shop at walmart! Only place around I could get a bike rack at 1am

583 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:27:37pm

re: #578 reine.de.tout

Abusing the privilege of buffet!
For shame.

Ever see the comic John Pinnetts bit about the Buffet?

CLASSIC!

584 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:28:09pm

re: #581 freetoken

Given our programmed (via evolution) ability to store energy what increased food availability has done in industrialized countries, where people already have what is biologically necessary, has definitely led to obesity.

Look - we talk a lot here about the poor, and the obligation we have to help them get what they need.

So . . . WalMart offers low prices, including lower prices on food. And we diss them for it? It makes no sense to me - here we have a store that has made a lot of things affordable for lots of people who could not afford them before, and everybody's pissed off about it. It just makes no sense to me.

585 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:28:36pm

re: #574 freetoken

"I think the most obvious story is that Walmart lowers the price of foods and a lot of the foods it has big price advantages on are the processed, inner-aisle types of food that aren't that good for you," said Charles Courtemanche, an assistant professor of economics at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro.

That's the real kicker. Can you ever recall seeing a 50% off coupon for dried beans or fresh turnips or potatoes? I'm more thrifty than most people but coupons are a scam to get you to buy$2 worth of ingredients for $5.

586 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:29:35pm

re: #585 Killgore Trout

That's the real kicker. Can you ever recall seeing a 50% off coupon for dried beans or fresh turnips or potatoes? I'm more thrifty than most people but coupons are a scam to get you to buy$2 worth of ingredients for $5.

LOL.
So very true.

587 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:30:49pm

re: #584 reine.de.tout


So . . . WalMart offers low prices, including lower prices on food. And we diss them for it?

I'm not really dissing WalMart, and neither are the researchers:

While the most obvious explanation is that cheaper food leads to more eating, Courtemanche said further research is needed to determine the exact connection between Walmart supercentres and obesity. It could be a combination of diet and exercise, he said, noting that their previous research has shown Walmart's product offerings influence leisure activities — with people buying and watching more DVDs, for instance, after a Walmart moves into town and offers them cheaply.

It's also possible that prices drop more steeply on processed foods than they do on fresh fruit and vegetables after Walmart's arrival, he suggested. Previous research has estimated that Walmart causes prices to drop by between eight and 27 per cent across the board, he said.

"We don't want people to look at this and immediately say Walmart is evil. We want people to realize this is one of many things that are going on, and maybe some are good and some are bad," he said. "Certainly our results should not be taken as, 'Ban all Walmarts.' It's part of a very broad debate."

It's a problem endemic to industrialized society worldwide now. A decrease in human physical effort per day combined with greater efficiency in producing high caloric foods is leading to increases in problems like obesity and diabetes.

588 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:30:51pm

re: #584 reine.de.tout

Look - we talk a lot here about the poor, and the obligation we have to help them get what they need.

So . . . WalMart offers low prices, including lower prices on food. And we diss them for it? It makes no sense to me - here we have a store that has made a lot of things affordable for lots of people who could not afford them before, and everybody's pissed off about it. It just makes no sense to me.

Apparently as a liberal I'm supposed to be all wound up about walmart, I'm totally not :D they've saved my ass more than once


I don't like their union busting tactics, but that's America

589 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:31:06pm

re: #582 WindUpBird

I shop at walmart! Only place around I could get a bike rack at 1am

WUB, do I even want to know where the skyline is on this one?

590 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:31:44pm

re: #589 Dark_Falcon

WUB, do I even want to know where the skyline is on this one?

We were about to leave for burning man and my bike rack did not fit my volvo *shrug* so I ran to walmart and got a different one, story over ;-)

591 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:32:06pm

Walmart just makes sugars and fats more affordable to society. Walmart isn't unique in that, they're just better at business than other companies.

592 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:32:07pm

re: #582 WindUpBird

I shop at walmart! Only place around I could get a bike rack at 1am

Perfectly normal

1st thing I always think about at 1 a.m. is bike racks!!

593 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:32:39pm

re: #585 Killgore Trout

That's the real kicker. Can you ever recall seeing a 50% off coupon for dried beans or fresh turnips or potatoes? I'm more thrifty than most people but coupons are a scam to get you to buy$2 worth of ingredients for $5.

No, but I sometimes coupons for oranges or apples. And I end up paying more because I don't really know how to cook.

594 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:33:02pm

re: #592 sattv4u2

Perfectly normal

1st thing I always think about at 1 a.m. is bike racks!!

when you've been packing a car for 8 hours, are already four hours later getting out, and the last thing you do is install the bike rack and then learn that the clips are incompatible with the hatch...


walmart looks pretty good *_*

595 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:33:58pm

re: #594 WindUpBird

when you've been packing a car for 8 hours, are already four hours later getting out, and the last thing you do is install the bike rack and then learn that the clips are incompatible with the hatch...

walmart looks pretty good *_*

OR ,,, you could plan better!!!

596 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:34:10pm

re: #592 sattv4u2

Perfectly normal

1st thing I always think about at 1 a.m. is bike racks!!

also useful: driving through a desolate area of california in the middle of the night on a 14 hour drive back from a con, having one of your wiper blades shear off, and thanking the living Christ there's an all night walmart there to sell you rain-x and blades *_*

597 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:34:41pm

re: #595 sattv4u2

OR ,,, you could plan better!!!

I did plan better! The shit that was supposed to be in the box was not in the box :P

598 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:34:43pm

re: #577 reine.de.tout

It seems to me lowering the price of food so that more people can afford to buy food is a pretty good idea.

On principle yes. I've found though because I've actually done the price checking for a couple business plans, that in the case of a large store like Walmart there isn't a huge difference between it and other stores prices with fresh food. Produce and other staple foods are quite comparable and not very different. Most meats aren't that much cheaper either. The processed stuff is way, way cheaper though, especially with Walmart's own brand. The same frozen dinner, pizza and chips cost way less at a Wal-mart then at the other stores sometimes to the tune of a couple of dollars. Things like processed cheeses are dirt cheap compared to other stores. I've seen cheese slices for instance on for two bucks (compared to three or four) and the bin is pretty much empty.

599 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:35:52pm

re: #587 freetoken

I'm not really dissing WalMart, and neither are the researchers:

It's a problem endemic to industrialized society worldwide now. A decrease in human physical effort per day combined with greater efficiency in producing high caloric foods is leading to increases in problems like obesity and diabetes.

Even when people get sufficient physical activity - people are eating way too much food. People have started thinking that a portion of food they get in a restaurant order is a normal portion of food - and they serve themselves at home similar portion sizes.

A restaurant dinner is enough food for me for 2 or sometimes even 3 meals. It's amazing how much food they serve - and people will eat every bit of it. And go home and fix dinner later with similar size portions.

Portion size is as big a part of the problem as inactivity and high-calorie foods.

600 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:36:09pm

re: #590 WindUpBird

We were about to leave for burning man and my bike rack did not fit my volvo *shrug* so I ran to walmart and got a different one, story over ;-)

Cool. Glad to see you're as full of fun and devoid of "ELEVENTY!!1" as always.

And I guess that my biggest objection to this study. Not the research itself, but the way it'll be used to attack Wal-Mart. The context will be stripped from it and the worst parts of the left will shout "Wal-Mart is making us all fat! WE TOLD YOU, THEY'RE EVIL!!1". I don't mind research but the way it gets used for "ELEVENTY!!1" purposes angers me.

601 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:36:39pm

re: #599 reine.de.tout

Even when people get sufficient physical activity - people are eating way too much food. People have started thinking that a portion of food they get in a restaurant order is a normal portion of food - and they serve themselves at home similar portion sizes.

A restaurant dinner is enough food for me for 2 or sometimes even 3 meals. It's amazing how much food they serve - and people will eat every bit of it. And go home and fix dinner later with similar size portions.

Portion size is as big a part of the problem as inactivity and high-calorie foods.

I agree with this

I eat too much at restaurants, but I only eat at a restauarnt like twice or three times a month

602 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:37:30pm

re: #600 Dark_Falcon

Cool. Glad to see you're as full of fun and devoid of "ELEVENTY!!1" as always.

And I guess that my biggest objection to this study. Not the research itself, but the way it'll be used to attack Wal-Mart. The context will be stripped from it and the worst parts of the left will shout "Wal-Mart is making us all fat! WE TOLD YOU, THEY'RE EVIL!!1". I don't mind research but the way it gets used for "ELEVENTY!!1" purposes angers me.

yeeah, i got no dog in the walmart fight, it's just like a larger box store, we have box stores, they're a thing America has

603 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:38:16pm

re: #582 WindUpBird

I shop at walmart! Only place around I could get a bike rack at 1am

I used to have a Target near the house. That was nice. I enjoyed the Target greatly.

It left. The building is empty. They say a Safeway is coming. I'll believe it when I see it.

The Target relocated to not-too-far away, but now I would have to take the bus, as opposed to just wandering over.

604 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:38:20pm

re: #600 Dark_Falcon

it irritates me that they censor music, but then again, anyone buying a ton of music at walmart probably doens't give a shit anyway :D

605 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:38:51pm

re: #603 SanFranciscoZionist

I used to have a Target near the house. That was nice. I enjoyed the Target greatly.

It left. The building is empty. They say a Safeway is coming. I'll believe it when I see it.

The Target relocated to not-too-far away, but now I would have to take the bus, as opposed to just wandering over.

We have a Target almost within walking distance from me, THAT'S where I shop, it's full of zany cool shit for cheap

606 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:40:49pm

re: #596 WindUpBird

also useful: driving through a desolate area of california in the middle of the night on a 14 hour drive back from a con, having one of your wiper blades shear off, and thanking the living Christ there's an all night walmart there to sell you rain-x and blades *_*

When we visited my in-laws in Louisiana, they were basically living at their local Wal-Mart. Not only did it sell everything, but it had air conditioning.

I've only been to a local one once, since the local one is not all that 'local'.

I prefer Target, for a lot of reasons.

607 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:41:09pm

re: #599 reine.de.tout

Even when people get sufficient physical activity - people are eating way too much food. People have started thinking that a portion of food they get in a restaurant order is a normal portion of food - and they serve themselves at home similar portion sizes.

Once I was out to dinner with a Japanese couple (here in the US) - it was one of those chains that serve semi-upscale American-Mexican cuisines - and when the server brought the plates the Japanese woman mentioned the "アメリカン人 サイズ" (American size) of the portion.

The obsession in this country with restaurant meals to be over 1000 calories per meals is quite a demonstration of "wealth" and foreigners can spot it right away.

608 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:41:28pm

re: #598 Jadespring

On principle yes. I've found though because I've actually done the price checking for a couple business plans, that in the case of a large store like Walmart there isn't a huge difference between it and other stores prices with fresh food. Produce and other staple foods are quite comparable and not very different. Most meats aren't that much cheaper either. The processed stuff is way, way cheaper though, especially with Walmart's own brand. The same frozen dinner, pizza and chips cost way less at a Wal-mart then at the other stores sometimes to the tune of a couple of dollars. Things like processed cheeses are dirt cheap compared to other stores. I've seen cheese slices for instance on for two bucks (compared to three or four) and the bin is pretty much empty.

Trader Joe's--awesome prices on some stuff as compared to the bigger grocery chains.

609 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:42:42pm

re: #599 reine.de.tout

Even when people get sufficient physical activity - people are eating way too much food. People have started thinking that a portion of food they get in a restaurant order is a normal portion of food - and they serve themselves at home similar portion sizes.

A restaurant dinner is enough food for me for 2 or sometimes even 3 meals. It's amazing how much food they serve - and people will eat every bit of it. And go home and fix dinner later with similar size portions.

Portion size is as big a part of the problem as inactivity and high-calorie foods.

Some friends of mine read a book about this phenomenon, and they're currently experimenting with using smaller plates, which is supposed to help break you of this.

610 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:43:01pm

re: #604 WindUpBird

it irritates me that they censor music, but then again, anyone buying a ton of music at walmart probably doens't give a shit anyway :D

It's part of the whole "family friendly" image they try to cultivate.

611 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:44:29pm

re: #593 Dark_Falcon

And I end up paying more because I don't really know how to cook.

Bingo. That's a big part of the issue. Nothing personal because it's a societal thing. Fresh and less processed food is great but if people don't know what to do with it or think it's too much work or whatever then the tendency is to go for the processed stuff.

It's also something that runs across all income levels.

For instance I've talked to people about our local farmers market and why or why not use it. One of the things that's come up as a reason why people don't tend to buy from these places isn't that they don't know that it's good food and better for them it's because they don't know how to deal with it and in at least two cases I've come across they're actually scared of fresh produce.

This is one of the reasons that in my area community kitchens are starting up in most towns as part of initiatives related to the development of a more localized economy and the support of farming community.

612 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:46:20pm

re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist

Their premade pizzas are awesome. Not high fat, or high calorie!
Mmm Mushroom, garlic pizza!

613 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:46:27pm

re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist

Trader Joe's--awesome prices on some stuff as compared to the bigger grocery chains.

I love me a TJs

614 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:47:14pm

re: #609 SanFranciscoZionist

Some friends of mine read a book about this phenomenon, and they're currently experimenting with using smaller plates, which is supposed to help break you of this.

Average plate size has actually increased over the years dramatically. I read an article about this awhile ago where the writer researched this because she had to remodel the kitchen in the old home she had just bought because none of the plates she had gotten as wedding gifts would fit in the original cabinets. People do judge the amount of food they're eating by how much of the plate sizes is covered, as plates increased so did portions.

615 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:47:32pm

re: #611 Jadespring


Didn't I kinda like say that here !?!?!

Exactly

How many meals nowadays are made "from scratch"?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

616 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:48:29pm

re: #614 goddamnedfrank

It's also a Weight Watchers concern.

617 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:48:30pm

re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist

I've had a love/hate relationship with Trader Joe's for several decades now. A good place to shop for things like raw nuts, etc. However, their checkout system has always been ass-backwards, and the store layouts/parking lots (at least here in San Diego) have tended to be disasters.

618 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:50:25pm

re: #617 freetoken

And you have to compare prices.
For the most part, TJ's is a lot cheaper, but then they NAIL you on one item.
You do have to know how to shop, and your prices, or not care!

619 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:50:30pm

re: #609 SanFranciscoZionist

Some friends of mine read a book about this phenomenon, and they're currently experimenting with using smaller plates, which is supposed to help break you of this.

I'm not sure if smaller plates would work. It's not really about portion size of the meal in itself but we have a fucked up perception of the make up of a meal. Our concept of "main course" and "side course is inverted. A big portion of greasy salty meat dish and a few bites if veg on the side is a bad idea. Not healthy and very expensive. Nobody should eat 16 ounces of steak or pot roast in one sitting that's insanity. Load up on nice fresh veg and make meat the savory side dish.

620 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:50:48pm

as for me, I think it's pretty classless to post a bunch of fat people at a certain store then mock both of them....why don't people mind their own fucking business?...you perfect St Person?

621 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:51:38pm

re: #620 albusteve

as for me, I think it's pretty classless to post a bunch of fat people at a certain store then mock both of them...why don't people mind their own fucking business?...you perfect St Person?

{burp},, huh !?!?
//

622 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:52:08pm

re: #605 WindUpBird

We have a Target almost within walking distance from me, THAT'S where I shop, it's full of zany cool shit for cheap

Oh, yes indeed. When I want something cute, it's Target.


re: #606 SanFranciscoZionist

When we visited my in-laws in Louisiana, they were basically living at their local Wal-Mart. Not only did it sell everything, but it had air conditioning.

I've only been to a local one once, since the local one is not all that 'local'.

I prefer Target, for a lot of reasons.

For one thing, there are no people of WalMart there.

623 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:52:31pm

re: #620 albusteve

...you perfect St Person?

Why yes, yes I am. I move pretty cat like for a big man, Luther Vandrossian-like, just call me Big Smoooooth.

624 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:52:53pm

re: #619 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure if smaller plates would work. It's not really about portion size of the meal in itself but we have a fucked up perception of the make up of a meal.

I suppose now you're going to try and convince me that the bowl of Haagen Dazs Chocolate Chocolate Chip ice cream I just had doesn't count as supper?

625 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:54:30pm

re: #624 freetoken

It could be supper, if you didn't have anything else.
Not particularly nutritious, but not evil either.

626 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:55:09pm

re: #619 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure if smaller plates would work. It's not really about portion size of the meal in itself but we have a fucked up perception of the make up of a meal. Our concept of "main course" and "side course is inverted. A big portion of greasy salty meat dish and a few bites if veg on the side is a bad idea. Not healthy and very expensive. Nobody should eat 16 ounces of steak or pot roast in one sitting that's insanity. Load up on nice fresh veg and make meat the savory side dish.

Smaller plates can indeed help.

But you are correct on the other stuff - A large chicken breast is enough "meat" for me for 2 or 3 days, depending. The rest of the meal is veggies or fruit, and salad with zero dressing (I like the taste of the salad itself)

627 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:55:53pm

re: #620 albusteve

as for me, I think it's pretty classless to post a bunch of fat people at a certain store then mock both of them...why don't people mind their own fucking business?...you perfect St Person?

There's a lot of love for Trader Joe's on this thread. I shop there too but I could pull the same gimmick with the self important yuppie octomom assholes who let their precious spawn rub snot all over the store. Don't take it so seriously.

628 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:55:55pm

re: #599 reine.de.tout

Even when people get sufficient physical activity - people are eating way too much food. People have started thinking that a portion of food they get in a restaurant order is a normal portion of food - and they serve themselves at home similar portion sizes.

A restaurant dinner is enough food for me for 2 or sometimes even 3 meals. It's amazing how much food they serve - and people will eat every bit of it. And go home and fix dinner later with similar size portions.

Portion size is as big a part of the problem as inactivity and high-calorie foods.

It's has changed somewhat here since this happened but about ten years ago my sister and I took a trip to Florida. We went to a restaurant and ordered a couple of appetizers and two meals. When the appy's came we were absolutely blown away. They were massive. I ordered deep fried cheese sticks. Usually when I ordered them in a restaurant here you'd get half a dozen. This plate was piled up with them, 18 of them. It was nuts. Then when the dinners came they were on these huge plates mounded with food. My sister and I just sat there and laughed at the craziness of all of this food. We figured there were three to four meals worth of food.

We couldn't take much away because we were traveling so about 3/4 of it ended up in the garbage. After that we would just order one meal and split it to the annoyance of the servers. We never were hungry.

Since then I've seen portion sizes in restaurants slowly increase here but never to the level that we found on that trip. Now when I go out I always know that I'm paying for two meals rather then one. I barely ever come home without lunch or dinner for the next day.

629 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:56:05pm

re: #624 freetoken

I suppose now you're going to try and convince me that the bowl of Haagen Dazs Chocolate Chocolate Chip ice cream I just had doesn't count as supper?

Hm.
You should try low-fat, no sugar-added Menchies frozen yogurt instead.
YUMMY.

630 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:57:05pm

re: #628 Jadespring

It's has changed somewhat here since this happened but about ten years ago my sister and I took a trip to Florida. We went to a restaurant and ordered a couple of appetizers and two meals. When the appy's came we were absolutely blown away. They were massive. I ordered deep fried cheese sticks. Usually when I ordered them in a restaurant here you'd get half a dozen. This plate was piled up with them, 18 of them. It was nuts. Then when the dinners came they were on these huge plates mounded with food. My sister and I just sat there and laughed at the craziness of all of this food. We figured there were three to four meals worth of food.

We couldn't take much away because we were traveling so about 3/4 of it ended up in the garbage. After that we would just order one meal and split it to the annoyance of the servers. We never were hungry.

Since then I've seen portion sizes in restaurants slowly increase here but never to the level that we found on that trip. Now when I go out I always know that I'm paying for two meals rather then one. I barely ever come home without lunch or dinner for the next day.

I'll often just order an appetizer and soup or salad, instead of a full meal. It's just way too much.

631 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:57:34pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

There's a lot of love for Trader Joe's on this thread. I shop there too but I could pull the same gimmick with the self important yuppie octomom assholes who let their precious spawn rub snot all over the store. Don't take it so seriously.

haha!...you're right
just seems rude to me

632 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:57:51pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

There's a lot of love for Trader Joe's on this thread. I shop there too but I could pull the same gimmick with the self important yuppie octomom assholes who let their precious spawn rub snot all over the store. Don't take it so seriously.

Same with Whole Foods ,, (except WF isn't "cheap")

633 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:58:35pm

precious spawn
w00t!

634 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:58:48pm

re: #629 reine.de.tout

I'm losing weight, btw.

I eat the real stuff (like Haagen Dazs, when it's on sale) because it's still made from just a few ingredients. Such as actual milk and ice cream, and the older flavors still use sugar as opposed to HF corn syrup.

re: #625 Floral Giraffe

Just the ice cream. Later I'll have some tuna, and probably an orange and/or some almonds.

635 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:59:09pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

There's a lot of love for Trader Joe's on this thread. I shop there too but I could pull the same gimmick with the self important yuppie octomom assholes who let their precious spawn rub snot all over the store. Don't take it so seriously.

My local TJs is just pure chaos. As someone said, they have never really gotten the knack of where to put lines for the checkers. But people are generally very charming.

Now, if you want to get some pictures of the truly, deeply, pretentious, try Andronico's. I ended up shopping there for a couple of weeks in college, when the local Safeway workers went on strike. It was pretty fun--all of us who were there because we wouldn't cross the picket line could spot one another, usually because we were going into shock over the price of orange juice.

Thank God, the talks resumed.

636 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 9:59:45pm

re: #620 albusteve

as for me, I think it's pretty classless to post a bunch of fat people at a certain store then mock both of them...why don't people mind their own fucking business?...you perfect St Person?

I agree it's completely classless.

But Steve, the people of WalMart are not really necessarily fat, they're just strange.

But it's a vice, I admit it.

637 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:00:36pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

There's a lot of love for Trader Joe's on this thread. I shop there too but I could pull the same gimmick with the self important yuppie octomom assholes who let their precious spawn rub snot all over the store. Don't take it so seriously.

Point taken. My father likes the place though, and he defended them when his local store was picketed for carrying products from Israel. He gave the local moonbats a talking to and they were not able to answer effectively. A very wise man, my father.

638 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:00:45pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

I agree it's completely classless.

But Steve, the people of WalMart are not really necessarily fat, they're just strange.

But it's a vice, I admit it.

They're just to short for their weight!!!

((some of them should be 8 feet tall!!)

639 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:01:10pm

re: #632 sattv4u2

Same with Whole Foods ,, (except WF isn't "cheap")

What a bunch of assholes. I went into whole foods a while back and they were selling Dandelion leaves for $8 a bunch. Lol@trustafarians

640 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:01:14pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

I agree it's completely classless.

But Steve, the people of WalMart are not really necessarily fat, they're just strange.

But it's a vice, I admit it.

For example, this lady. She appears to be of a perfectly average height and weight. But...

641 albusteve  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:01:38pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

I agree it's completely classless.

But Steve, the people of WalMart are not really necessarily fat, they're just strange.

But it's a vice, I admit it.

well whatever they, they don't bother me none

642 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:02:45pm
643 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:03:35pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

What a bunch of assholes. I went into whole foods a while back and they were selling Dandelion leaves for $8 a bunch. Lol@trustafarians

Holy Schnikies

I can remember walking the railroad tracks with my grandmother when I was a lad while she picked them

644 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:03:52pm

re: #637 Dark_Falcon

Point taken. My father likes the place though, and he defended them when his local store was picketed for carrying products from Israel. He gave the local moonbats a talking to and they were not able to answer effectively. A very wise man, my father.

Also, TJ's has absolutely refused to knuckle under to people who've requested (sometimes very aggressively) they boycott Israeli products. One of our local stores even responded to demands they do so by creating a big display of their Israeli products with Israeli flags all over it.

Berkeley Bowl, an independent gourmet-ish grocery store in Berkeley has similarly refused to get rid of their Israeli products.

645 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:04:04pm

re: #637 Dark_Falcon

Point taken. My father likes the place though, and he defended them when his local store was picketed for carrying products from Israel. He gave the local moonbats a talking to and they were not able to answer effectively. A very wise man, my father.

We appreciate your father's good work!

646 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:04:56pm

re: #640 SanFranciscoZionist

For example, this lady. She appears to be of a perfectly average height and weight. But...

Love the bunny slippers!
It's called "taste" and "pride in your appearance".
PS. It's not that hard...

647 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:04:59pm

re: #615 sattv4u2

Didn't I kinda like say that here !?!?!

Exactly

How many meals nowadays are made "from scratch"?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Yes you did. I missed it. :)

The chef that did the community kitchen demo I went to talked about it. She at varying times in her career taught home ec and was involved in trade programs for teens. She said she realized how bad it was getting when she had a class of about 40 and during the first theory session she was babbling on about this and that until one of the students stopped her to ask a question. "Ms X you keep talking about 'from scratch' what does that mean?" So she said okay how many of you have parents or grannies that have down a roast dinner on Sundays.' No hands went up. "Okay have you ever seen any of your parents cut up veggies and make something like soup." Still no hands. One kid "I thought soup only came from a can." Then quite astounded she asked "Okay have you or have you ever seen your parents boil and egg?" No hands went up. She had to literally start from 'scratch'.

Over the years they have had to adjust the program because more and more kids were coming in with practically nothing and no exposure to cooking except from boxes, cans or pouches.

648 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:05:23pm

re: #638 sattv4u2

They're just to short for their weight!!!

((some of them should be 8 feet tall!!)

Like this person?

[Link: www.peopleofwalmart.com...]

649 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:05:35pm

BTW, if anyone is up for some doom and gloom, the following story from yesterday is sort of important in understanding just how bad this last recession was:

Record Low Housing Completions in 2010

The records go back to just after WWII.

The construction industry tanked like it never had before (since WWII).

Something like that takes time to heal.

650 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:07:30pm

re: #646 Floral Giraffe

Love the bunny slippers!
It's called "taste" and "pride in your appearance".
PS. It's not that hard...

IF you have a mirror in your home . . .which I swear, some people can't possibly have.

651 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:10:20pm

re: #650 reine.de.tout

IF you have a mirror in your home . . .which I swear, some people can't possibly have.

Oh, they have mirrors. They CHOOSE not to look in them.
Certainly from their backside perspective. It's nothing short of amazing, NO?

652 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:10:31pm

re: #649 freetoken

BTW, if anyone is up for some doom and gloom, the following story from yesterday is sort of important in understanding just how bad this last recession was:

Record Low Housing Completions in 2010

The records go back to just after WWII.

The construction industry tanked like it never had before (since WWII).

Something like that takes time to heal.

It's December...kinda expect this and the next couple months to be the low point every year. For instance, In Wisconsin where I'm at, the temperature will get to the negative teens tonight. Not a great time to start building a house.

653 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:10:48pm

re: #649 freetoken


The construction industry tanked like it never had before (since WWII).

Something like that takes time to heal.

The perception is that the industry is on the mend, but very slow and tedius. I've noticed design and bid work picking up in the high end in Hawaii but good times are not really around the corner. If anything, Hawaii weathered this recession better than it usually does, it typically gets hit more extreme than the rest of the mainland.

Other parts of the country are in a deep hole and it will be a long time before they're out.

654 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:11:09pm

re: #646 Floral Giraffe

Love the bunny slippers!
It's called "taste" and "pride in your appearance".
PS. It's not that hard...

One suspects there might be a story going on behind that photo. A broken heel? Something.

655 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:11:43pm

re: #644 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, TJ's has absolutely refused to knuckle under to people who've requested (sometimes very aggressively) they boycott Israeli products. One of our local stores even responded to demands they do so by creating a big display of their Israeli products with Israeli flags all over it.

Berkeley Bowl, an independent gourmet-ish grocery store in Berkeley has similarly refused to get rid of their Israeli products.

Glad that both stores stood tall under pressure. The 'boycott' crowd seek to turn Israel into a pariah. Rejecting them is essential.

656 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:11:50pm

re: #647 Jadespring

Yes you did. I missed it. :)

The chef that did the community kitchen demo I went to talked about it. She at varying times in her career taught home ec and was involved in trade programs for teens. She said she realized how bad it was getting when she had a class of about 40 and during the first theory session she was babbling on about this and that until one of the students stopped her to ask a question. "Ms X you keep talking about 'from scratch' what does that mean?" So she said okay how many of you have parents or grannies that have down a roast dinner on Sundays.' No hands went up. "Okay have you ever seen any of your parents cut up veggies and make something like soup." Still no hands. One kid "I thought soup only came from a can." Then quite astounded she asked "Okay have you or have you ever seen your parents boil and egg?" No hands went up. She had to literally start from 'scratch'.

Over the years they have had to adjust the program because more and more kids were coming in with practically nothing and no exposure to cooking except from boxes, cans or pouches.

I have to say, lots and lots of my students come from families that cook, and many of them are quite proud of their own kitchen skills.

657 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:11:57pm

re: #654 SanFranciscoZionist

One suspects there might be a story going on behind that photo. A broken heel? Something.

Just got home from work, feet hurt, took shoes off, put slippers on, kid needed school supplies RIGHT NOW MOM!!!!

At least, that's how it was for me.

658 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:12:17pm

re: #648 BryanS

Like this person?

[Link: www.peopleofwalmart.com...]

Why did you do that to me!?!?!

:(

659 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:12:40pm

re: #652 BryanS

It's December...kinda expect this and the next couple months to be the low point every year. For instance, In Wisconsin where I'm at, the temperature will get to the negative teens tonight. Not a great time to start building a house.

ahhh..they were annual numbers. read stories today about "record low" housing starts in December and conflated that with your link.

Housing takes a long time to turn around--figure 20 year cycles from low to high.

660 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:12:57pm

re: #652 BryanS

The graph shows annual completions.

661 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:13:03pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

What a bunch of assholes. I went into whole foods a while back and they were selling Dandelion leaves for $8 a bunch. Lol@trustafarians

How big was the bunch? I sell and will be selling dandelion greens for about 25 bucks a pound. Micro-green versions go for about 35 a pound.

Sounds awful I know. It's dandelions! But they're considered a 'specialty' and premium and as a grower who likes to eat as well if people and restaurants will pay that much for them I will gladly help them out. Dandelion green production is a labor intensive as any other salad production and it's tricky to get them at the precise time where they're the most edible. They get really bitter if you leave them too long so that means lots of successive seedings to ensure a constant supply.

662 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:13:38pm

And on that note, I have to go work out the bugs in our new monitor wall

663 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:14:30pm

re: #653 BigPapa


Other parts of the country are in a deep hole and it will be a long time before they're out.

From California to Florida, all along the sunbelt, there is still a huge backlog of housing to be moved through the mortgage-default system.

I don't expect housing construction here in California to ever return to its peak of a few years back.

664 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:15:30pm

re: #658 sattv4u2

Why did you do that to me!?!?!

:(

lol....fun pic, eh?

665 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:16:43pm

re: #661 Jadespring

How big was the bunch? I sell and will be selling dandelion greens for about 25 bucks a pound. Micro-green versions go for about 35 a pound.

Sounds awful I know. It's dandelions! But they're considered a 'specialty' and premium and as a grower who likes to eat as well if people and restaurants will pay that much for them I will gladly help them out. Dandelion green production is a labor intensive as any other salad production and it's tricky to get them at the precise time where they're the most edible. They get really bitter if you leave them too long so that means lots of successive seedings to ensure a constant supply.

I'm only a few blocks away from the store and probably drove past over $1,000 worth of dandelions on the way to the store. I'm guilty too, I don't know how many time this fall I bought apples at the store only to remember that the trees across the street from me a filled with them. It happens.

666 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:17:40pm

re: #664 BryanS

lol...fun pic, eh?

Yes ,, (if your idea of fun is having me kneeling in front of the Porcelain Alter losing my dinner!!)

667 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:17:45pm

re: #661 Jadespring

How big was the bunch? I sell and will be selling dandelion greens for about 25 bucks a pound. Micro-green versions go for about 35 a pound.

Sounds awful I know. It's dandelions! But they're considered a 'specialty' and premium and as a grower who likes to eat as well if people and restaurants will pay that much for them I will gladly help them out. Dandelion green production is a labor intensive as any other salad production and it's tricky to get them at the precise time where they're the most edible. They get really bitter if you leave them too long so that means lots of successive seedings to ensure a constant supply.

Just need to stop all weed control--plenty of dandelions to pick whenever you wish every summer.

668 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:18:08pm

re: #656 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to say, lots and lots of my students come from families that cook, and many of them are quite proud of their own kitchen skills.

That's great. One of the projects I'm working on is working with kids and cooking. Mainly doing something with the stuff they grow in the school garden. Many do have families that cook and many don't. Regardless its awesome how excited and proud they get when they do make something. We made applesauce one day and one boy was over the moon when he actually peeled some apples really well. It was the first time he had ever done anything like that.

669 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:19:21pm

re: #666 sattv4u2

Yes ,, (if your idea of fun is having me kneeling in front of the Porcelain Alter losing my dinner!!)

heh...and what is your "monitor wall"? Some big cctv install?

670 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:19:24pm

re: #665 Killgore Trout

...I don't know how many time this fall I bought apples at the store only to remember that the trees across the street from me a filled with them.


Speaking of localvore fruiting, I checked out the neighborhood loquat trees - lots of green fruit just begging to be picked in about 3 months!

671 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:20:28pm

re: #663 freetoken

From California to Florida, all along the sunbelt, there is still a huge backlog of housing to be moved through the mortgage-default system.

I don't expect housing construction here in California to ever return to its peak of a few years back.

Banks do seem to have a rather large backlog of foreclosures to get through. I would expect foreclosure rates to continue to rise even through the point the market stabilizes.

672 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:20:28pm

re: #665 Killgore Trout

I'm only a few blocks away from the store and probably drove past over $1,000 worth of dandelions on the way to the store. I'm guilty too, I don't know how many time this fall I bought apples at the store only to remember that the trees across the street from me a filled with them. It happens.

Most dandy greens you get at the store are not the same as the ones in the lawn. There's specific varieties grown for the greens markets.
Doesn't mean the lawn ones aren't edible. I eat them all the time in the spring. It's free! :)

673 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:21:18pm

re: #663 freetoken

From California to Florida, all along the sunbelt, there is still a huge backlog of housing to be moved through the mortgage-default system.

I don't expect housing construction here in California to ever return to its peak of a few years back.

That's exactly why builders don't want too much inventory, too much dead wood dragging the market down. Banks don't want to finance new construction till they get rid of all their foreclosures.

It's funny how the effects of the real world still affect the high end: there are some luxury developments slated in Hawaii that are permitted, graded, and have infrastructure. The developer has already paid for the land and would rather wait for the market to come back than try to dump them because the banks are holding the notes. They are in no rush to build until there's some pent up demand to drive prices up.

So yeah, the golden years from the early 90's through '07 will be the high point for some time.

674 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:23:57pm

re: #672 Jadespring

Most dandy greens you get at the store are not the same as the ones in the lawn. There's specific varieties grown for the greens markets.
Doesn't mean the lawn ones aren't edible. I eat them all the time in the spring. It's free! :)

Nasturtium leaves are my foraging fave for salads.

675 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:25:00pm

re: #667 BryanS

Just need to stop all weed control--plenty of dandelions to pick whenever you wish every summer.

Growing them on purpose for a market is different then just picking wild ones. For one it takes way to long to do that. In the wild they aren't all at the right stage (baby) at the same time, they're a different variety and they go really bitter quickly. If you want to make money from it you pretty much just grow them like you would a lettuce or spinach crop.

676 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:26:21pm

re: #674 SanFranciscoZionist

Nasturtium leaves are my foraging fave for salads.

Yeah they're yummy. I'm going to be growing those for restaurant this year too. Mostly the flowers though. Them and pansies.

677 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:26:27pm

re: #669 BryanS

heh...and what is your "monitor wall"? Some big cctv install?

Six 60 inch monitors, each able to be segmented into up to 30 different images

We're a satellite tv teleport
[Link: satellite-teleport.atrexx.com...]

[Link: www.level3.com...]

678 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:27:55pm

re: #674 SanFranciscoZionist

Nasturtium leaves are my foraging fave for salads.

It looks like Littlegreenfootballs attracts a number of foragers...

679 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:28:42pm

re: #676 Jadespring

Yeah they're yummy. I'm going to be growing those for restaurant this year too. Mostly the flowers though. Them and pansies.

The flowers don't taste like much to me, although they're pretty.

The leaves are nice and peppery.

680 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:30:35pm

re: #677 sattv4u2

Six 60 inch monitors, each able to be segmented into up to 30 different images


[Video]We're a satellite tv teleport
[Link: satellite-teleport.atrexx.com...]

[Link: www.level3.com...]

Cool...so level 3 is in my town, if i got fiber into their building, I can buy content from them (well, transported by them)?

681 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:31:11pm

This one goes in the "Uh oh!" file:

Tunisia's Islamists eye place in politics
Some worry that radicalism may now take root in this westward-looking nation

By ELAINE GANLEY
The Associated Press
updated 2 hours 43 minutes ago 2011-01-21T01:26:57

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TUNIS, Tunisia — For decades, Tunisians espousing political Islam were banned, jailed and forced underground by their country's autocratic regime.

Now they are seeking a place in government — raising fears that Islamic radicalism might take root in Tunisia, long seen by the West as a bulwark against terrorism.

With the promise that democracy will replace dictatorship, members of the outlawed Ennahdha party have taken to the streets, joining daily protests aimed at banishing all traces of the former ruling party of ousted President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

Such activism by the Islamists — who want a role for Islam in their country's politics — is feeding jitters that extremism may be on the rise in Tunisia, long a Westward-looking nation proud of its modern identity. Women enjoy widespread freedoms, Muslim headscarves are banned in public buildings and abortions, a deep taboo in most Muslim societies, are legal in Tunisia.

Members of Ennahdha, Renaissance in English, say fears of radicalism have no merit.

"The Western media is frightening people, saying that 'the Islamists are rising.' But we are not to be feared," said party spokesman, Hamadi Jebali.

"We are not the Taliban or al-Qaida or Ahmadinejad," he said, referring to the Iranian president. "We will submit to the vote of the people when the time comes."

Response to the passage I bolded: Yeah, right.

682 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:31:15pm

re: #680 BryanS

Cool...so level 3 is in my town, if i got fiber into their building, I can buy content from them (well, transported by them)?

yes

683 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:33:28pm

re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist

The flowers don't taste like much to me, although they're pretty.

The leaves are nice and peppery.

Yeah the flowers are more for show and letting them charge 12 bucks for a small plate of salad. :)

My favorite flowers are chive and red clover. Chive flowers are really spicy and they flavor and look great in something like a potato salad. Clover if you get them at the right time they taste sweet, like a mild honey flavor.

684 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:35:10pm

re: #682 sattv4u2

yes

I've looked into starting an IPTV service for my internet customers. Are they selling IP encoded content?

685 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:35:12pm

re: #683 Jadespring

Clover if you get them at the right time they taste sweet, like a mild honey flavor.

Yes! As a kid I used to go out and eat the clover flowers, on occasion.

686 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:36:49pm

the Barber of Seville

687 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:37:21pm

re: #684 BryanS

I've looked into starting an IPTV service for my internet customers. Are they selling IP encoded content?

No. What we "sell" (for that market) is the delivery system FOR you to deliver content. But we do offer encoding if you need it

688 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:40:09pm

re: #687 sattv4u2

No. What we "sell" (for that market) is the delivery system FOR you to deliver content. But we do offer encoding if you need it

Ahhh....I've looked into working with one of a handful of companies in the region with cable head ends already....encoding and head end gear is uber expensive.

689 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:41:26pm

re: #688 BryanS

Ahhh...I've looked into working with one of a handful of companies in the region with cable head ends already...encoding and head end gear is uber expensive.

Where is "here', if I may ask

690 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:42:47pm

re: #689 sattv4u2

Where is "here', if I may ask

Wisconsin

691 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:43:13pm

re: #685 freetoken

Yes! As a kid I used to go out and eat the clover flowers, on occasion.

Did people think you were weird? :)

I freak people out when we're walking and I'll just grab them and eat them.

692 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:45:49pm

re: #690 BryanS

Wisconsin

We have a presence in Green Bay and Milwaukee (and connectivity to other areas)

[Link: www.level3.com...]

693 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:46:42pm

re: #691 Jadespring

Did people think you were weird? :)

I freak people out when we're walking and I'll just grab them and eat them.

heh,,, same with me when I do that to small animals!!

694 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:47:26pm

re: #693 sattv4u2

heh,,, same with me when I do that to small animals!!

Ooo you're bad.... :)

695 freetoken  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:49:52pm

re: #691 Jadespring

Did people think you were weird? :)

Well, I only did it when I was quite young, and kids will put anything in their mouths...

Once, while sitting in a little neighborhood park in Japan, an old (by Japanese standards) woman comes by, sits not too far from me... and starts to pick the gardenia flowers and eat them! It didn't freak me out, but it was something one wouldn't normally see in a US city park.

696 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:50:39pm

re: #692 sattv4u2

We have a presence in Green Bay and Milwaukee (and connectivity to other areas)

[Link: www.level3.com...]

Yeah...I took a look at that map :) I'm in Madison--Level 3 is there too. Sometimes they forget we are here until you ask the right person. They acquired their Madison assets when they bought Willtel, and for whatever reason it's a crap shoot whether the person you talk to there knows about their fiber and on net locations in town here.

697 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:55:46pm

re: #696 BryanS

Yeah...I took a look at that map :) I'm in Madison--Level 3 is there too. Sometimes they forget we are here until you ask the right person. They acquired their Madison assets when they bought Willtel, and for whatever reason it's a crap shoot whether the person you talk to there knows about their fiber and on net locations in town here.

twah ,,, sorry about that

I'm originally a WilTel guy but as I said, I work at one of our satellite teleports and don't have to deal with the field op fiber nor sales people often

698 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:57:17pm

re: #696 BryanS

If you want, hit me up with an e-mail and I can give you a contact name that WILL know

699 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:58:00pm

re: #697 sattv4u2

twah ,,, sorry about that

I'm originally a WilTel guy but as I said, I work at one of our satellite teleports and don't have to deal with the field op fiber nor sales people often

There are still a number of willtel folks around--just have to put in random inquiries until you get the right person :)

700 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:59:43pm

re: #685 freetoken

Yes! As a kid I used to go out and eat the clover flowers, on occasion.

If you pull periwinkle flowers away from the stem and suck the flower, FAST, you get a little rush of nectar. I loved that as a kid.

701 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:59:55pm

BBL ,, I really have to get this project done!

702 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:00:33pm

re: #700 SanFranciscoZionist

If you pull periwinkle flowers away from the stem and suck the flower, FAST, you get a little rush of nectar. I loved that as a kid.

DONT EAT THE BROWN ONES!

703 BryanS  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:00:44pm

re: #701 sattv4u2

BBL ,, I really have to get this project done!

no problem...i'm fading myself. have a good night.

704 Jadespring  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:02:58pm

re: #700 SanFranciscoZionist

If you pull periwinkle flowers away from the stem and suck the flower, FAST, you get a little rush of nectar. I loved that as a kid.

They're poisonous though so I wouldn't recommend people do that too much.

705 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:35:00pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

There's a lot of love for Trader Joe's on this thread. I shop there too but I could pull the same gimmick with the self important yuppie octomom assholes who let their precious spawn rub snot all over the store. Don't take it so seriously.

haha I can relate. to. this

I'm the asshole in the metal hoodie with two candy bars and a six pack waiting in line as cell phone lady ignores her kids, going FUCK YOU, HEMP-BAG EARTH LADY AND YOUR CHILDREN ARE GODDAMN ANIMALS

706 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Jan 21, 2011 12:17:07am

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: pages.prodigy.net...]

The Jeweler

When I used my full first name, it was "Twenty Eyes"

707 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Jan 21, 2011 12:32:04am

re: #175 Alouette

I'm not going in to work tomorrow.

I can't blame you. Physically and mentally, those few seconds and the impact take a lot out of a person. I speak from experience, although I never damaged a car that badly.

Last night was the first time I had to drive my new car on ice (as opposed to "just" snow), and I found a thoroughly useless "feature" on the dashboard. When the car loses traction, a little light comes on to tell me--as if I couldn't tell??

708 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Jan 21, 2011 12:51:47am

re: #525 Alouette

My rib cage is really sore when I breathe in and out. It didn't kick in until just now because first, when I was freaking out I didn't really feel much pain. Then, I took a Vicodin.

I'd ask for a hug, but it would hurt too bad.

Air hug. I hope that didn't hurt too much.

709 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Jan 21, 2011 12:57:24am

re: #574 freetoken

The link goes on:

So, given the correlation they are now trying to come up with hypotheses to explain it.

The lowering of food price is an interesting idea and certainly is congruent with the American experience overall of having more calories/household.

OMG, they actually lower the cost of food! How awful for the consumer! It's obviously a conspiracy! This must be investigated!

710 freetoken  Fri, Jan 21, 2011 1:13:57am

re: #709 ClaudeMonet

Did you read the linked article?

711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 21, 2011 10:29:52am

Joey "Bag of Donuts"... Dom Irrera.


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