Here’s an open thread to discuss the aftermath of President Obama’s State of the Union speech, as we wait for Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) to share her wisdom with us…
In a classic Bachmann moment, she delivered her entire speech while looking into the wrong camera.
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tnguitarist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:38:32pm |
You gonna put up the video? Thanks in advance…
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darthstar Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:39:07pm |
Looking forward to watching the looks on the faces of MSNBC’s panel when Batshit gives her response.
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:40:04pm |
Is CNN showing it? or just MSNBC? or everyone.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:40:14pm |
In School Sex Clinics! Konstitution! Founding Fathers Eradicated Slavery! Taking over 1/6th of the economy! Crown Jewel of socialism! Death Panels!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:40:34pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:41:32pm |
Know what’s scary? This is the best person the tea party has available to give this speech. Think about it.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:41:34pm |
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webevintage Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:42:26pm |
re: #4 marjoriemoon
Is CNN showing it? or just MSNBC? or everyone.
I hope MSNBC I hate the idea of even clicking on CNN and taking the chance I might have to listen to some pearls of wisdom from Erik son of Erik.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:42:27pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Yeah, Who’s got the link?
It’s supposed to be streamed live at the TP Express website, but Bachmann is not on at the moment.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:42:32pm |
CNN with be carrying the speech by the Minnesota Loon live.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:42:35pm |
re: #4 marjoriemoon
Is CNN showing it? or just MSNBC? or everyone.
Yeah it’s going to be on CNN.
I’m watching the channel right now. I don’t get MSNBC.
Oh and this is the first time I’ve ever seen Erickson live.
What a knobber.
He just said he’s seen the transcripts of the speeches and likes Bachman’s better.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:42:39pm |
Fox claims this link will work for mars:
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com…]
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:43:01pm |
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:43:33pm |
re: #11 webevintage
I hope MSNBC I hate the idea of even clicking on CNN and taking the chance I might have to listen to some pearls of wisdom from Erik son of Erik.
That’s where it is, and that’s where the son of son guy is. Also (my pet peeve, the English entertainment dude who took over for Larry King - so appropriate)
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:43:34pm |
re: #11 webevintage
I hope MSNBC I hate the idea of even clicking on CNN and taking the chance I might have to listen to some pearls of wisdom from Erik son of Erik.
Roland Martin and Wolf Blitzer. They could show the SOTU on Roland’s noggin.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:43:50pm |
re: #11 webevintage
I hope MSNBC I hate the idea of even clicking on CNN and taking the chance I might have to listen to some pearls of wisdom from Erik son of Erik.
Don’t worry, he’s not on the panel. You’re safe. These SOTU panels don’t contain crazies.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:44:05pm |
Crazy lady’s working the crowd. Building anticipation like when Iron Butterfly shows up two hours late for their own concert. It’s all part of the masterful Tea Party agenda
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webevintage Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:44:07pm |
re: #14 Jadespring
Oh and this is the first time I’ve ever seen Erickson live.
What a knobber.
He just said he’s seen the transcripts of the speeches and likes Bachman’s better.
Goody, that means the crazy is at a high level….
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:44:46pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
Crazy lady’s working the crowd. Building anticipation like when Iron Butterfly shows up two hours late for their own concert. It’s all part of the masterful Tea Party agenda
There’s a half hour delay between here and Mars…
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charlz Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:44:57pm |
re: #8 JasonA
Know what’s scary? This is the best person the tea party has available to give this speech. Think about it.
OK. she’s a cheaper version than SPalin? the TP is now going to analyze polling data to see how far they can plumb the lowest common demominator?
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:45:12pm |
I’m doing far too much multi-tasking! I missed E son of E.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:45:24pm |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
Don’t worry, he’s not on the panel. You’re safe. These SOTU panels don’t contain crazies.
He is on the CNN panel.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:45:44pm |
re: #23 JasonA
There’s a half hour delay between here and Mars…
In space nobody can hear you scream.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:46:03pm |
re: #24 charlz
OK. she’s a cheaper version than SPalin? the TP is now going to analyze polling data to see how far they can plumb the lowest common demominator?
We’re just lucky she’s not doing it in Revolutionary War era garb.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:46:09pm |
I’m going to watch on CNN. My PC is too slow to use for live video when I don’t need to.
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tnguitarist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:46:35pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:46:36pm |
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thatthatisis Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:46:44pm |
Blitzer just called it the “official” response of the Tea party. Are they organized enough to have official anythings? When was she elected as their nominee?
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:47:02pm |
re: #29 JasonA
We’re just lucky she’s not doing it in Revolutionary War era garb.
Oh, what I would pay to see that.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:47:15pm |
re: #29 JasonA
We’re just lucky she’s not doing it in Revolutionary War era garb.
That would involve a headscarf, and her supporters would then scream that turned into a Muslim.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:47:48pm |
King Of Mars
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:47:59pm |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
In space nobody can hear you‘re eyes scream.
I swear, if you could get your ear close enough to one of Bachmann’s crazy eyeballs, you would hear a faint screaming sound.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:03pm |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
Don’t worry, he’s not on the panel. You’re safe. These SOTU panels don’t contain crazies.
Pretty sure he just spoke.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:12pm |
Fox News live feed, starts off with a PB commercial (not kidding).
They have raw footage of her settling up now. Somebody left the feed open
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:26pm |
Unedited backstage Bachmann:
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com…]
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:26pm |
They’re showing the prep on that fox link I posted…
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:31pm |
Founding fathers…Constitution…limited government…runaway spending…job killing health care bill…taxes…
Repeat…
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:35pm |
re: #8 JasonA
Know what’s scary? This is the best person the tea party has available to give this speech. Think about it.
Minneapolis Tea Party Slams Bachmann: ‘One Person Has No Right To Speak For The Whole Organization’
Heh.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:48pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:49pm |
Got the soundtrack covered
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:48:49pm |
Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…Founding fathers…
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:11pm |
re: #42 Gus 802
Founding fathers…Constitution…limited government…runaway spending…job killing health care bill…taxes…
Repeat…
Socialism?
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Mark Winter Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:28pm |
2010: 1 response of the GOP
2011: 2 responses from GOP and Tea Party
2012: 3 responses from GOP, Tea Party and Coffee Party
2013: 4 responses from GOP, Tea Party, Coffee Party and…
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:40pm |
Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…Constitution…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:45pm |
re: #40 Charles
Unedited backstage Bachmann:
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com…]
lots of mic banging and other noise.
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webevintage Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:47pm |
On Twitter:
davidfrum
Boehner holding Bachmann’s ankle in hope of delaying her until all DC switches to weather channel
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:49pm |
re: #33 thatthatisis
Blitzer just called it the “official” response of the Tea party. Are they organized enough to have official anythings? When was she elected as their nominee?
It’s a “leaderless movement” bit. She provides as little leadership imaginable.
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charlz Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:49pm |
re: #33 thatthatisis
Blitzer just called it the “official” response of the Tea party. Are they organized enough to have official anythings? When was she elected as their nominee?
“official” is the new hyperbole.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:49:49pm |
WHAT IS UP WITH HER GENE SIMMONS EYES, CHRIST
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:50:17pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:50:22pm |
It’s creepy how she’s not looking at the camera.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:50:35pm |
re: #29 JasonA
We’re just lucky she’s not doing it in Revolutionary War era garb.
Now that I would like.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:50:56pm |
she looks like Alice Cooper, it’s the creepy angled eyebrows and the too much eyemakeup, and then the lighting gives her the shadow to make it look ever worse
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Mark Winter Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:00pm |
Wasn’t Ross Perot the last guy with charts?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:04pm |
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:07pm |
Egads she has charts.
What would it be without the stimulus, Michele?
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:09pm |
This speech sounds like it should have come from Troy McClure.
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tnguitarist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:14pm |
She’s not even looking at the camera. Just reading.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:22pm |
re: #66 Gus 802
Oh dear. I think she over did the smokey eyes.
Well, she’s got a W.A.S.P gig after this :D
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:23pm |
re: #69 JasonA
She’s like a cross between a Stepford Wife and Ross Perot, except this time, that giant sucking sound is your brain trying to escape from having to process her crazy.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:24pm |
She’s opening up with an anti-stimulus salvo.
Now, she’s using a chart. That’s a decent touch.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:29pm |
She’s totally going into lulu land with her use of numbers.
She’s counting on Americans being innumerate - the the NBER has always shown that unemployment is a lagging indicator.
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elizajane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:36pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:38pm |
What’s on her lapel pin?
That’s not an American flag
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:40pm |
re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth
I swear, if you could get your ear close enough to one of Bachmann’s crazy eyeballs, you would hear a faint screaming sound.
this is the worst thing you’ve ever said :D
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:51:59pm |
re: #75 JasonA
This speech sounds like it should have come from Troy McClure.
Oh wow, honest laugh out loud on that one
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:08pm |
This is like watching Duane Gish speaking about Evolution.
Oh, …
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:12pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
She’s opening up with an anti-stimulus salvo.
Now, she’s using a chart. That’s a decent touch.
Using charts = Ross Perot in drag
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:17pm |
She’s reading a teleprompter.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:21pm |
re: #84 elizajane
It’s the Beck thing. Soon she will start drawing arrows!
If she pulls a Godwin I will totally down a bottle of booze.
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Ghost of Sionainn Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:23pm |
They should have put the teleprompter next to the camera.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:34pm |
MY MICHELLE!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:51pm |
“What did we buy, instead of a leaner, smart government?
We bought a bureaucracy, which is now going to tell us what light bulbs we can buy.”
That’s a good line on her part.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:52:54pm |
It’s like she’s talking to kindergarten children
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Mark Winter Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:07pm |
Her makeup looks like she borrowed it from Katherine Harris
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:07pm |
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:16pm |
re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth
She’s reading a teleprompter.
But Obama uses Teleprompters! That makes them EVIL! Why would a good Tea Party patriot use anything that Obama does?
/wingnut
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Decider Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:19pm |
It is like a rehash of 2 years of Fox News talking points.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:32pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:40pm |
Why is Michele Bachmann staring at my left shoulder?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:43pm |
MICHELLE! WE’RE OVER HERE!
/WAVES FRANTICALLY
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:48pm |
re: #104 Mark Winter
Her makeup looks like she borrowed it from Katherine Harris
And she’s just as crazy!
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Interesting Times Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:49pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:53:55pm |
Please, Michelle, say something that isn’t a talking point. Anything. Talk about the weather. I don’t care.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:02pm |
re: #86 WindUpBird
this is the worst thing you’ve ever said :D
Dig through the archives, you’ll find worse.
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webevintage Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:02pm |
omg1111!!!!!11111
I am just dying here….
IRS agents!!!!!!!1111!!!
UNIONS!!!!!1111!!!!!
FINEST HEALTHCARE!!1111!!!!
OBAMA SUCKS!!!!!!!
The President could….the President could….the President could….
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:05pm |
I’m listening to My Michelle and Bachmann at the same time
It’s starting to trouble me *_*
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:11pm |
re: #109 Decider
It is like a rehash of 18 years of Fox News talking points.
FTFY. It’s the same shit they’ve been shoveling since Clinton was POTUS.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:36pm |
re: #113 Charles
Why is Michele Bachmann staring at my left shoulder?
Its your sexy side. Rawr.
////Can’t believe I’m posting this.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:42pm |
re: #104 Mark Winter
Her makeup looks like she borrowed it from Katherine Harris
That’s low. Go after the substance, not after a woman’s looks.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:54:47pm |
Yeah, like when South Carolina seceded. History turned there, too.
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prairiefire Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:06pm |
re: #56 webevintage
On Twitter:
davidfrum
Boehner holding Bachmann’s ankle in hope of delaying her until all DC switches to weather channel
Ha!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:09pm |
“We believe in a limited view of government”.
Heh, I do believe you do.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:13pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
When she has no substance to speak of, the only thing left are her looks.
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:16pm |
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:20pm |
re: #123 WindUpBird
I’m listening to My Michelle and Bachmann at the same time
It’s starting to trouble me *_*
Careful. You could wind up hating Beethoven.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:25pm |
Whoops, I made an error. She’s not talking to kindergarden… it’s preschool.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:26pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
That’s low. Go after the substance, not after a woman’s looks.
I agree. Catherine Harris did nothing to deserve that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:27pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
That’s low. Go after the substance, not after a woman’s looks.
That substance on her face really should have been applied with a lighter touch
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:36pm |
re: #131 Slumbering Behemoth
“We believe in a limited view of government”.
Heh, I do believe you do.
HAHAHAHAHA
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calochortus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:37pm |
“Over the incursion against the Japanese”? And she’s reading…
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:45pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
“What did we buy, instead of a leaner, smart government?
We bought a bureaucracy, which is now going to tell us what light bulbs we can buy.”
That’s a good line on her part.
Yeah heaven forbid the American people start buying lightbulbs that last longer and do less environmental damage, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO INFERIOR PRODUCTS!
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:48pm |
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Decider Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:55:54pm |
Do we need to help with the deficit if we are not one of the “real Americans”?
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:03pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:05pm |
The Iwo Jima picture could have been an effective tool, but she tripped over her lines.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:06pm |
I bet the Japanese are shaking in their boots now.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:15pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
That substance on her face really should have been applied with a lighter touch
Me, you, beer. Can’t breath, laughing too hard.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:26pm |
She’s High Fiving the stage hands on the Fox feed.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:46pm |
re: #135 Decatur Deb
Careful. You could wind up hating Beethoven.
The Doors Ogf Bachmann’s Perception Are Opening o_0
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:56:54pm |
Well, that was about as substantive as the cupcakes to which she referred before they started the broadcast.
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:02pm |
Now for a dose of Family Guy to get my head back on straight.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:11pm |
re: #148 JasonA
That’s it?
she just slams the mic down, screams BROOKLYN, and stalks off in a wave of feedback
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:12pm |
Amazing how someone who speaks so loudly has so little to say.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:14pm |
re: #157 Stanley Sea
My twitter feed is, uh, quite epic
I’m sure that Charles is currently laughing at his Twitter feed. I know I would in his place.
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Decider Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:19pm |
Fox News is just showing the Sean Hannity show. It is actually the same thing.
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Mark Winter Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:31pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
That’s low. Go after the substance, not after a woman’s looks.
There’s a difference between looks and makeup
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:32pm |
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:36pm |
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:39pm |
re: #153 Dark_Falcon
…seriously? Its one of the worst base appeals to emotion I’ve seen in a while. Totally cheap and unnecessary.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:57:43pm |
Somehow I’m just not interested in what Bachman has to say. Obama gave an excellent speech. Hear, hear.
The work of this Congress is to take him up on an extraordinary offer. Just do it. Go into all negotiations with the attitude that you’re not going to get rolled, but you’re going to cut a deal along the general lines of the terms he offered.
WHETHER OR NOT his policies are best for the nation, this offer is the best that can be realized over the next two years. And then we’ll have another election where we can thrash out just what to do with what the health care reform bill will have become, say.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:03pm |
re: #170 Mark Winter
There’s a difference between looks and makeup
If you paint yourself up like the Crypt Keeper, people are going to have concerns, man!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:26pm |
re: #162 freetoken
Freetoken, why do you hate cupcakes?
/
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:32pm |
IwojimaCupcakesKonstitutionLibertyTaxes
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:32pm |
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:35pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:36pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
That substance on her face really should have been applied with a lighter touch
True, but I was just trying to keep the focus on the speech.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:38pm |
Ha!
@JamesUrbaniak:
All Tea Party members to henceforth avoid eye contact.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:58:54pm |
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tnguitarist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:00pm |
re: #175 BishopX
No, I missed it. What was it?
She showed the shot of Iwo Jima and then alluded to fighting back a ‘totalitarian aggressor”.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:05pm |
“I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world”
That just doesn’t sound right to me.
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webevintage Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:08pm |
It looked like she was on a local public access channel show….
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:16pm |
Michelle has a unique grasp of US history to say the least.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:20pm |
Here’s to smaller government! That’s why I’m essentially employed by the government making a very nice 6 figure salary with great benies and also take in farm subsidies on the side.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:24pm |
re: #186 Jadespring
“I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world”
That just doesn’t sound right to me.
Because you’re literate.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 7:59:59pm |
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:08pm |
re: #186 Jadespring
“I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world”
That just doesn’t sound right to me.
It shouldn’t. She basically said that every other country could be destroyed and it would be okay as long as America remained untouched.
It’s American Exceptionalism mixed with weapons grade idiocy.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:28pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
True, but I was just trying to keep the focus on the speech.
///Yeah, but you’d expect the Republicans to have learned their lesson from Nixon V JFK….
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:29pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
True, but I was just trying to keep the focus on the speech.
That’s like focusing on infinity, dude
There’s no speech, just some words in semi-random order that a dumb, uneducated woman read off a TV monitor for the purpose of scaring other dumb uneducated people
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:29pm |
re: #186 Jadespring
“I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world”
That just doesn’t sound right to me.
The rest are dispensible, apparently. I say we start with Japan. They’re just too damn weird for me…
/
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:39pm |
re: #183 WindUpBird
what do you get when…
Uh… you cross Michele Bachman with a… brain? History lesson?
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:50pm |
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:00:59pm |
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:01:14pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:01:19pm |
I could actually feel my IQ dropping, point…by…point, while listening to her talk. It was like watching Glenn Beck in drag.
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:01:20pm |
re: #187 webevintage
It looked like she was on a local public access channel show…
I bet Glenn Beck created her talking board.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:01:23pm |
re: #173 McSpiff
…seriously? Its one of the worst base appeals to emotion I’ve seen in a while. Totally cheap and unnecessary.
It could have been a good closing point. But to do that she would have needed to talk about the economy more and talk about the debt and recession as the adversary we need to beat. She misused the image in my opinion.
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Mark Winter Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:01:30pm |
A dim bulb talking about light bulbs.
Sums up the Tea Party program
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:01:58pm |
re: #202 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I could actually feel my IQ dropping, point…by…point, while listening to her talk. It was like watching Glenn Beck in drag.
I won’t be able to sleep tonight thank to you.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:01pm |
re: #188 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Michelle has a unique grasp of US history to say the least.
Like a tightened fist trying to contain a portion of sand.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:08pm |
re: #202 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I could actually feel my IQ dropping, point…by…point, while listening to her talk. It was like watching Glenn Beck in drag.
She actually reminded me a bit of (not very) instructional videos I would be forced to watch in my health care jobs
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:27pm |
re: #199 JasonA
Why does he hate America?
Iwojima was an inside job! Iwojima-care! The world is secretly run by Japanese bankers!
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:31pm |
Government telling us what light bulbs to buy, and what side of the road to drive on.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:45pm |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
It could have been a good closing point. But to do that she would have needed to talk about the economy more and talk about the debt and recession as the adversary we need to beat. She misused the image in my opinion.
You’re analyzing something that is too stupid to be analyzed. ;-)
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calochortus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:45pm |
At least someone was smart enough to include only odd numbered years on her unemployment chart so the 2008 numbers weren’t there.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:55pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:02:55pm |
That speech pretty much could work as a summary of all the substance that Tea Partyism has brought to American polity.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:03:10pm |
re: #209 Killgore Trout
Iwojima was an inside job! Iwojima-care! The world is secretly run by Japanese bankers!
Black Kimonoed shadow cabal?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:03:20pm |
re: #210 jaunte
Government telling us what light bulbs to buy, and what side of the road to drive on.
WHO DO THOSE LIBERAL FAIRIES THINK THEY ARE, TELLING ME I CAN’T HAVE 50,000 POUNDS OF DYNAMITE
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:03:25pm |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
It could have been a good closing point. But to do that she would have needed to talk about the economy more and talk about the debt and recession as the adversary we need to beat. She misused the image in my opinion.
I wish Sergey was here, but there’s a Russian saying to the effect of “If only my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle”
Yes, if she had made a good speech, and properly used her closing imagery it would have been a well spoken speech with proper closing imagery.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:03:35pm |
Erick son of Erick referred to her as talking simply.
Yep. I agree with that. Though I don’t think in the way he intended.
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charlz Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:03:48pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
True, but I was just trying to keep the focus on the speech.
bless you for trying; it must be tough. 8-)
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:04:06pm |
re: #207 Slumbering Behemoth
Like a tightened fist trying to contain a portion of sand.
Governor Tarkin: You don’t know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.
Princess Leia: I’m surprised that you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.
Governor Tarkin: Princess Leia, before your execution, you will join me at a ceremony that will make this battle station operational. No star system will dare oppose the Emperor now.
Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:04:09pm |
re: #147 jamesfirecat
Yeah heaven forbid the American people start buying lightbulbs that last longer and do less environmental damage, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO INFERIOR PRODUCTS!
Don’t we? We have a right to make all sorts of inferior choices. Especially choices that seem inferior in the eyes of the government.
I’ve got a handful of fixtures where the light is on maybe an hour a year. Equipping those with incandescent bulbs seems quite reasonable to me. The right way to prompt people to buy the right bulbs is to just get the truth out there on how much electricity various bulbs use and how much that costs, and to have a carbon tax so that coal-fired electricity prices reflect what have until now been treated as externalities.
Telling the truth about how long CF bulbs actually tend to last would help with trust, too. They don’t actually last nearly as long as the official numbers say. This, from a fan of them. They’re still the best choice for most fixtures, but exaggerating their merits leads to distrust and closed minds when next we try to get people to switch over to the coming great thing, LEDs.
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:04:24pm |
I missed it!
Did MSNBC not air it?!?!?! I was looking forward to a great laugh, and I actually wish this response eclipses Ryan’s!
Is it in YouTube/Facebook?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:04:43pm |
re: #214 freetoken
That speech pretty much could work as a summary of all the substance that Tea Partyism has brought to American polity.
So is she in fact the dumbest current member of congress? Not craziest. STUPIDEST.
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Decider Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:05:04pm |
re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
MICHELLE! WE’RE OVER HERE!
/WAVES FRANTICALLY
Teleprompters are for Socialists.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:05:11pm |
Of course, Iwo Jima was one of the culminations of a multi-year collective effort lead by FDR. But of course Michelle Bachmann won’t say that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:05:19pm |
re: #218 Jadespring
Erick son of Erick referred to her as talking simply.
Yep. I agree with that. Though I don’t think in the way he intended.
Is that the only good thing he had to say about her? :D
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:05:25pm |
re: #220 jamesfirecat
Governor Tarkin: You don’t know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.
Princess Leia: I’m surprised that you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.
Governor Tarkin: Princess Leia, before your execution, you will join me at a ceremony that will make this battle station operational. No star system will dare oppose the Emperor now.
Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
Of course later,
Leia: They let us go. It was the only reason for the ease of our escape.
And then she goes to Yavin right away anyways.
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:05:30pm |
re: #221 lostlakehiker
Don’t we? We have a right to make all sorts of inferior choices. Especially choices that seem inferior in the eyes of the government.
I’ve got a handful of fixtures where the light is on maybe an hour a year. Equipping those with incandescent bulbs seems quite reasonable to me. The right way to prompt people to buy the right bulbs is to just get the truth out there on how much electricity various bulbs use and how much that costs, and to have a carbon tax so that coal-fired electricity prices reflect what have until now been treated as externalities.
Telling the truth about how long CF bulbs actually tend to last would help with trust, too. They don’t actually last nearly as long as the official numbers say. This, from a fan of them. They’re still the best choice for most fixtures, but exaggerating their merits leads to distrust and closed minds when next we try to get people to switch over to the coming great thing, LEDs.
Why can’t I use lead paint or lead gasoline???
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:05:35pm |
MishaRN
I am writing to my congresspeople tonight to demand that Michele Bachmann respond to every speech POTUS gives from now on. #LovedIt
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:03pm |
re: #221 lostlakehiker
Don’t we? We have a right to make all sorts of inferior choices. Especially choices that seem inferior in the eyes of the government.
And we don’t have the right to make other ones.
I’ve got a handful of fixtures where the light is on maybe an hour a year. Equipping those with incandescent bulbs seems quite reasonable to me. The right way to prompt people to buy the right bulbs is to just get the truth out there on how much electricity various bulbs use and how much that costs, and to have a carbon tax so that coal-fired electricity prices reflect what have until now been treated as externalities.
You mean a tax on the coal companies and electric utilities, right, not the consumers?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:14pm |
re: #222 ElCapitanAmerica
I missed it!
Did MSNBC not air it?!?!?! I was looking forward to a great laugh, and I actually wish this response eclipses Ryan’s!Is it in YouTube/Facebook?
Got the transcript.
Herp derp de herpa derpa herpa derp.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:20pm |
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:20pm |
re: #216 WindUpBird
WHO DO THOSE LIBERAL FAIRIES THINK THEY ARE, TELLING ME I CAN’T HAVE 50,000 POUNDS OF DYNAMITE
One the other hand You can buy flamethrowers so we’re not doomed yet…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:41pm |
re: #221 lostlakehiker
I can’t believe this came out of a Bachmann thread, hahahaha
LET’S CONSIDER WHAT THIS VERY INTELLIGENT WOMAN HAS TO SAY ABOUT CONSERVATION
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:41pm |
Deggans
I cannot wait to see what SNL dies with slightly creepy Michelle Bachmann response to #SOTU. Please let Kristen Wiig play her…
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:06:51pm |
So, now I guess I’m waiting on the Palin response, followed by the Paul response to round things out. Or is the Tea Party now going with Michele as their spokesnut?
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:07:41pm |
re: #232 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Got the transcript.
Herp derp de herpa derpa herpa derp.
Herp. Derp de. Herpa < blank stare to left> derpa. Herpa. Derwewedp.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:07:44pm |
re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, now I guess I’m waiting on the Palin response, followed by the Paul response to round things out. Or is the Tea Party now going with Michele as their spokesnut?
Unless they offer Sarah some scratch I think you’re gonna be waiting for a while.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:07:59pm |
re: #228 recusancy
Why can’t I use lead paint or lead gasoline???
He wrote SO MUCH TEXT
in response to something the celebrated thinker Michelle Bachmann said! As if Michelle Bachmann could tell time, let alone have some deep observation
Oh the poor man, I feel bad, I do
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:13pm |
re: #239 JasonA
Unless they offer Sarah some scratch I think you’re gonna be waiting for a while.
Palin and Bachmann are BFFs you know.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:20pm |
re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, now I guess I’m waiting on the Palin response, followed by the Paul response to round things out. Or is the Tea Party now going with Michele as their spokesnut?
Rand Paul unleashed his idiocy before the SOTU. The budget cuts he wants were hilariously bad and entirely unrealistic. Never, ever happen. Ever.
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:37pm |
LOL, MSNBC playing clips … why is she looking at the wrong camera?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Please I need the whole thing, awesome!!!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:39pm |
re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, now I guess I’m waiting on the Palin response, followed by the Paul response to round things out. Or is the Tea Party now going with Michele as their spokesnut?
I would like nothing more than for Bachmann to run for president
it’ll be like the Twilight Zone
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:54pm |
re: #238 McSpiff
Herp. Derp de. Herpa < blank stare to left> derpa. Herpa. Derwewedp.
I can’t wait for the Jim Hoft translation of that.
/DERP!
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:58pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:08:59pm |
re: #244 ElCapitanAmerica
LOL, MSNBC playing clips … why is she looking at the wrong camera?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Please I need the whole thing, awesome!!!
Youtube better be remixing this shit
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:03pm |
re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, now I guess I’m waiting on the Palin response, followed by the Paul response to round things out. Or is the Tea Party now going with Michele as their spokesnut?
Did anyone catch the Palin Facebook post about Reagan being the life guard?(my guess is she’s going to declare on his 100 bday this Feb)
But it was plagiarized from a column long ago. No press yet, probably fucking with her head.
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avanti Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:07pm |
re: #147 jamesfirecat
Yeah heaven forbid the American people start buying lightbulbs that last longer and do less environmental damage, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO INFERIOR PRODUCTS!
I’m pissed that my car has to have working brakes and lights./
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:22pm |
re: #242 Lidane
Rand Paul unleashed his idiocy before the SOTU. The budget cuts he wants were hilariously bad and entirely unrealistic. Never, ever happen. Ever.
I gotta admit, I actually applaud him for being the only Republican so far to come out and call for defense cuts. Not gonna win him any friends, but at least he’s the only one that’s come close so far to the “fiscal conservative” BS.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:27pm |
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:29pm |
re: #244 ElCapitanAmerica
LOL, MSNBC playing clips … why is she looking at the wrong camera?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Please I need the whole thing, awesome!!!
They were filming The Krusty The Klown show on that one?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:30pm |
re: #247 JasonA
Momma Grizzlies scavenge together.
did you know bears can subsist entirely on a diet of garbage? :D
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:48pm |
Her unvarnished idiocy cracks me up most of the time, until I remember there is a movement backing people like her, and an electorate that keeps electing her to office. At that point, I feel like swimming to the bottom of a vat of grain alcohol and drinking my way out.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:09:58pm |
re: #250 avanti
The government requires autos to be sold with seat belts (and crash bags). Isn’t that just as much an infringement upon person “liberty”?
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:10:02pm |
re: #252 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’ll wait for the autotune.
You sir, have given me a reason to wake up tomorrow. Thank you.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:10:04pm |
re: #251 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
6.5% of defense cuts. Compared to 100% for HUD and many other agencies.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:10:09pm |
re: #251 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
He wants a 6.5% cut. Even the Joint Chiefs could come up with more than that if given half a chance.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:10:10pm |
re: #250 avanti
I’m pissed that my car has to have working brakes and lights./
STUPID GOVERNMENT Making it hard for me to dump gallons of used turpentine into the river!
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:10:16pm |
re: #251 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I gotta admit, I actually applaud him for being the only Republican so far to come out and call for defense cuts. Not gonna win him any friends, but at least he’s the only one that’s come close so far to the “fiscal conservative” BS.
Except for the pro-life stuff…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:10:31pm |
re: #256 freetoken
The government requires autos to be sold with seat belts (and crash bags). Isn’t that just as much an infringement upon person “liberty”?
My liberty to skateboard down I-5 has been infringed
goddamn nazis
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:11:09pm |
re: #260 WindUpBird
STUPID GOVERNMENT Making it hard for me to dump gallons of used turpentine into the river!
Pfft. They have to catch you first. Starve the beast!
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:11:13pm |
re: #238 McSpiff
Herp. Derp de. Herpa < blank stare to left> derpa. Herpa. Derwewedp.
IMMMMA CHARGIN’ DAHHH LZAAAAAOOOR!
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:11:21pm |
re: #259 Lidane
He wants a 6.5% cut. Even the Joint Chiefs could come up with more than that if given half a chance.
True enough. But that’s compared to the previous bills put forward so far, which call for rollbacks on all non-defense spending to ‘08 levels, if not farther back. Yeah, he’s not actually calling for real cuts, but he’s calling for cuts. In my book, that counts for something.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:11:30pm |
re: #251 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I gotta admit, I actually applaud him for being the only Republican so far to come out and call for defense cuts. Not gonna win him any friends, but at least he’s the only one that’s come close so far to the “fiscal conservative” BS.
well yea, but his proposals are a TINY defense cut and then massive cuts everywhere ;-)
Even Rand Paul’s fiscal conservatisim got no calories, man
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:11:41pm |
re: #262 WindUpBird
My liberty to skateboard down I-5 has been infringed
goddamn nazis
I like my heavy metal infused tooth paste from the Gahozu Industrial Works!
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charlz Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:11:51pm |
re: #259 Lidane
He wants a 6.5% cut. Even the Joint Chiefs could come up with more than that if given half a chance.
and they would if it could get thru the bureaucracy.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:12:11pm |
re: #265 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, he’s not actually calling for real cuts, but he’s calling for cuts. In my book, that counts for something.
Except that all his other ideas are shit, so even his meager defense cuts don’t count for anything.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:12:20pm |
re: #263 JasonA
Pfft. They have to catch you first. Starve the beast!
“You mean I can’t build a toxic waste factory here? HOW DARE YOU! I’m an American!”
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:12:31pm |
Heh.
BACHMANN TRAINWRECK BLOGGING
10:50 PM: I’m not even sure what to say about this.
—Josh Marshall
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:12:40pm |
re: #265 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
True enough. But that’s compared to the previous bills put forward so far, which call for rollbacks on all non-defense spending to ‘08 levels, if not farther back. Yeah, he’s not actually calling for real cuts, but he’s calling for cuts. In my book, that counts for something.
Seriously? Saying you want insane cuts gets you points? I managed to piss in the bowl earlier tonight, how many does that get me?
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:12:45pm |
re: #245 WindUpBird
I would like nothing more than for Bachmann to run for president
it’ll be like the Twilight Zone
Personally, I’m looking at the current potential field and laughing my ass off.
Sarah Palin
Michele Bachmann
Ron Paul
Newt Gingrich
Just those 4 alone will make the primaries this year worth the price of admission.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:02pm |
re: #267 McSpiff
I like my heavy metal infused tooth paste from the Gahozu Industrial Works!
Says Coalgate, right on the label.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:05pm |
re: #271 JasonA
Heh.
BACHMANN TRAINWRECK BLOGGING
10:50 PM: I’m not even sure what to say about this.—Josh Marshall
He’s been terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:15pm |
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:21pm |
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:31pm |
No video at teaparty express or whatever their website is called. Nothing on her YouTube either … :-(
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:52pm |
re: #273 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Personally, I’m looking at the current potential field and laughing my ass off.
Sarah Palin
Michele Bachmann
Ron Paul
Newt GingrichJust those 4 alone will make the primaries this year worth the price of admission.
Exciting times!
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:13:53pm |
re: #279 ElCapitanAmerica
No video at teaparty express or whatever their website is called. Nothing on her YouTube either … :-(
Go to CNN. They aired it.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:14:03pm |
If I were a wingnut I’d be furious with Fox. They put her setup for the speech on a live feed and she had no idea she was being broadcasted. They’re very lucky she was only talking about cupcakes.
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palomino Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:14:11pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
“What did we buy, instead of a leaner, smart government?
We bought a bureaucracy, which is now going to tell us what light bulbs we can buy.”
That’s a good line on her part.
Those light bulbs you mock actually do save a lot of energy. Her snark on the issue is moronic. Just like during the 2008 campaign when gop laughed at Obama for suggesting proper tire inflation. These folks really are proud of being ignorant.
Just know-nothing populism. Why you find that appealing I have no clue.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:14:12pm |
re: #272 McSpiff
Seriously? Saying you want insane cuts gets you points? I managed to piss in the bowl earlier tonight, how many does that get me?
2,000,000….quatloos.
Eh, it’s like Christmas gifts, it’s the thought that counts. I’m personally still laughing my ass off at the suggestion to fold DoE into the DoD. How exactly is that supposed to work outside of the little fantasy world inside his head?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:14:24pm |
re: #279 ElCapitanAmerica
No video at teaparty express or whatever their website is called. Nothing on her YouTube either … :-(
You mean idiot racist beardos can’t maintain a web presence?
Never saw that one coming
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:15:02pm |
re: #284 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
2,000,000…quatloos.
Eh, it’s like Christmas gifts, it’s the thought that counts. I’m personally still laughing my ass off at the suggestion to fold DoE into the DoD. How exactly is that supposed to work outside of the little fantasy world inside his head?
heh I’ll give you that. Who knows, none of that shit actually makes sense.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:15:14pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
If I were a wingnut I’d be furious with Fox. They put her setup for the speech on a live feed and she had no idea she was being broadcasted. They’re very lucky she was only talking about cupcakes.
well, they’re in charge, not Bachmann
Fox essentially is driving opinion in the party, the GOP belongs to them for the time being
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:15:35pm |
re: #283 palomino
Those light bulbs you mock actually do save a lot of energy. Her snark on the issue is moronic. Just like during the 2008 campaign when gop laughed at Obama for suggesting proper tire inflation. These folks really are proud of being ignorant.
Just know-nothing populism. Why you find that appealing I have no clue.
because he’s a partisan republican!
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:15:37pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
If I were a wingnut I’d be furious with Fox. They put her setup for the speech on a live feed and she had no idea she was being broadcasted. They’re very lucky she was only talking about cupcakes.
Tea Party professionalism!
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What, me worry? Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:15:49pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
If I were a wingnut I’d be furious with Fox. They put her setup for the speech on a live feed and she had no idea she was being broadcasted. They’re very lucky she was only talking about cupcakes.
I missed her cupcakes. I count myself thankful, although it was probably the best part of the speech.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:15:59pm |
re: #283 palomino
Those light bulbs you mock actually do save a lot of energy. Her snark on the issue is moronic. Just like during the 2008 campaign when gop laughed at Obama for suggesting proper tire inflation. These folks really are proud of being ignorant.
Just know-nothing populism. Why you find that appealing I have no clue.
Or “Volcano Research.”
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:16:27pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
If I were a wingnut I’d be furious with Fox. They put her setup for the speech on a live feed and she had no idea she was being broadcasted. They’re very lucky she was only talking about cupcakes.
I had the cnn feed going at the same time because I didn’t want to miss it. CNN cut in when her speech began and cut out when it ended. Fox broadcasted her setup and the breakdown at the end when the techs were taking her mic off. Careless and sloppy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:16:49pm |
re: #293 Killgore Trout
I had the cnn feed going at the same time because I didn’t want to miss it. CNN cut in when her speech began and cut out when it ended. Fox broadcasted her setup and the breakdown at the end when the techs were taking her mic off. Careless and sloppy.
bonus features!
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:17:02pm |
Random question… the flag on Iwo Jima was raised by Marines and a Navy corpsman IIRC. Is G.I. acceptable nomenclature for Marines?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:17:21pm |
re: #292 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Or “Volcano Research.”
Or the fruit-fly research that only goes onto help cure down syndrome…. why should Sarah Palin be in favor of that?
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:17:22pm |
re: #284 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
2,000,000…quatloos.
Eh, it’s like Christmas gifts, it’s the thought that counts. I’m personally still laughing my ass off at the suggestion to fold DoE into the DoD. How exactly is that supposed to work outside of the little fantasy world inside his head?
Probably means he wants to strip away everything but the special weapons work, much (most) of which is funded under DoE.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:17:53pm |
re: #295 McSpiff
Random question… the flag on Iwo Jima was raised by Marines and a Navy corpsman IIRC. Is G.I. acceptable nomenclature for Marines?
Nope.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:17:57pm |
re: #294 WindUpBird
bonus features!
Yeah, I now know she buys cupcakes for Fox employees. OMG, Cupcakegate! Scandal! Outrage!
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:18:41pm |
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:18:47pm |
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palomino Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:18:53pm |
re: #289 WindUpBird
because he’s a partisan republican!
I guess that would explain it, but even a lot of the partisan republicans here realize that Bachmann is an imbecile. And that the entire tea party movement she co-leads is toxic reactionary populism.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:19:08pm |
I knew it. I knew that the wingers would talk about the solar shingles in a poo poo manner and Erick didn’t let me down.
Thanks Erick. You affirmed my faith in you.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:19:19pm |
So she actually got everything wrong. Hilarious.
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charlz Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:20:01pm |
ok gotta go for my 4:50am alarm
leaving you with this:
elevation of love by Esbjörn Svensson Trio
stay with it — it gets intense.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:20:15pm |
“I was hoping for crazy Anderson but I didn’t get it. Got corny though!”
I’ll agree with that.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:20:34pm |
Bwahahahaha!
Justice Scalia disappointed the TPers!
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
[Link: blogs.wsj.com…]
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:20:43pm |
re: #304 McSpiff
So she actually got everything wrong. Hilarious.
Lots of people get the GI thing wrong. I mean, we call it the GI Bill, even though it’s for all military.
Not the biggest deal.
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palomino Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:20:48pm |
re: #303 Jadespring
I knew it. I knew that the wingers would talk about the solar shingles in a poo poo manner and Erick didn’t let me down.
Thanks Erick. You affirmed my faith in you.
If it doesn’t burn and produce smoke, it’s not real energy. Just ask a Texas oilman, he’ll give you the honest truth.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:20:56pm |
re: #304 McSpiff
So she actually got everything wrong. Hilarious.
100/100. Truly, this woman is presidential timber.
///
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:21:22pm |
Wait, did she deliver a speech or did Fox broadcast an interview? I was thinking she was going to do a YouTube/Facebook video thing like Mama Bear, not a Fox sponsored broadcast.
It sounds so horrible I wouldn’t be surprised Fox doesn’t play it ever again …
UPDATE: Wait, they’re going to go over it on MSNBC next. Stay tuned!!!
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:21:29pm |
re: #310 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wooden be prudent.
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mikefromarlington Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:22:16pm |
Please let the GOP candidates be Palin/Bachmann!!!!
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Peter Kaufman Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:22:27pm |
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:22:44pm |
re: #311 Gus 802
Bradley was Navy.
Yup, I acknowledged the corpsman in my first post. Didn’t know his name though, thank you!
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:23:04pm |
re: #307 moderatelyradicalliberal
Bwahahahaha!
Justice Scalia disappointed the TPers!
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
[Link: blogs.wsj.com…]
Lol.
Parts of the conversation were lost on some members in attendance. Justice Scalia “talked about a couple of old cases” and tossed around “lots of Latin phrases,” said Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D., Ill.).
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:23:06pm |
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:23:13pm |
re: #309 palomino
If it doesn’t burn and produce smoke, it’s not real energy. Just ask a Texas oilman, he’ll give you the honest truth.
It wasn’t even that. A synopisis- It was weird. I don’t understand what Sputnik has to do with solar shingles. “
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:24:16pm |
OK, I just got President Obama’s email.
We do big things…
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:24:45pm |
re: #321 Stanley Sea
OK, I just got President Obama’s email.
We do big things…
Things that make us go?
Sorry, got in touch with my inner Pakled there for a moment.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:24:53pm |
re: #316 McSpiff
Yup, I acknowledged the corpsman in my first post. Didn’t know his name though, thank you!
Ah. I missed that. So 5 jarheads and a squid.
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Tigger2 Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:24:53pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
“What did we buy, instead of a leaner, smart government?
We bought a bureaucracy, which is now going to tell us what light bulbs we can buy.”
That’s a good line on her part.
That’s funny I just bought light bulbs last night and I didn’t have anyone standing there and telling me which ones I had to buy.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:24:53pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:24:53pm |
re: #320 McSpiff
I really, really don’t like Eric Ericson.
You must be a goat-fucking child molester…
///
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:25:11pm |
Pam_Spaulding
RT @jc_christian: Ha. Eddie Munster is trending. YEAH BABY!
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:25:59pm |
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:26:04pm |
Anyone watching CNN? This is sad. We can’t afford to teach anymore folks.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:26:28pm |
re: #319 Jadespring
It wasn’t even that. A synopisis- It was weird. I don’t understand what Sputnik has to do with solar shingles. “
I missed the majority of the SOTU, what was the Sputnik reference about?
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:27:10pm |
Erick really liked something from Obama’s speech. The simplifing the tax code part.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:27:25pm |
re: #330 McSpiff
Anyone watching CNN? This is sad. We can’t afford to teach anymore folks.
Um, no, I don’t watch TV. What went wrong?
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Peter Kaufman Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:27:52pm |
re: #314 mikefromarlington
That is one thing that I can promise will never, ever happen.
There’s only room for one crazy,populist,MILF, Lina Lamont, and while they’re both idiots, they are each smart enough to recognize that.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:28:39pm |
Eugene_Robinson
Scoring the speeches on a scale of 1-10: Obama: 8; Ryan: 4; Bachman: -3 (the whole time she looked at wrong camera)
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:28:50pm |
re: #330 McSpiff
Anyone watching CNN? This is sad. We can’t afford to teach anymore folks.
Ari is an ass. How in the hell is paying for more teachers wealth redistribution when taxes already pay teachers salaries?
Fuck these people.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:29:37pm |
re: #335 Stanley Sea
Eugene_Robinson
Scoring the speeches on a scale of 1-10: Obama: 8; Ryan: 4; Bachman: -3 (the whole time she looked at wrong camera)
///Maybe they were planning to fix it in post, and tilt the screen, a Battlefield Earth thing you know?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:30:03pm |
re: #333 freetoken
Um, no, I don’t watch TV. What went wrong?
Gergen asked Ari if he would be in favor of taking the tax cuts for the top 2% and applying it to hiring more teachers and Ari said no because it would be wealth redistribution.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:30:06pm |
re: #335 Stanley Sea
Eugene_Robinson
Scoring the speeches on a scale of 1-10: Obama: 8; Ryan: 4; Bachman: -3 (the whole time she looked at wrong camera)
She was glued to the teleprompter which the Fox News idiots didn’t put near the fucking camera. Amateur hour.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:30:13pm |
re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth
Sputnik triggered NASA and the National Defense Education Act, which made improving technical and science education a national security issue. Obama thinks that would be a good idea.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:30:21pm |
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:31:03pm |
re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth
I missed the majority of the SOTU, what was the Sputnik reference about?
He was basically referencing when the Soviets put up Sputnik and the enormous amount of innovation and work that the US did to catch up and go further then the soviets and related that to what’s needed to be down now in terms of research, innovation and adapting to a cleaner energy economy. He used a roofing company as an example of adaptation and innovation. When the recession hit half their warehouse/factory wasn’t used and with a government loan they started making solar shingles which are now being sold around the country and the world.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:31:09pm |
re: #339 Killgore Trout
She was glued to the teleprompter which the Fox News idiots didn’t put near the fucking camera. Amateur hour.
It’s almost as if they were sabotaging her. Maybe they are embarrassed too?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:31:14pm |
re: #339 Killgore Trout
She was glued to the teleprompter which the Fox News idiots didn’t put near the fucking camera. Amateur hour.
THE TELEPROMPTER WAS OBVIOUSLY AN OBAMA SYMPATHIZER!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:32:00pm |
re: #336 moderatelyradicalliberal
Ari is an ass. How in the hell is paying for more teachers wealth redistribution when taxes already pay teachers salaries?
Fuck these people.
I really am just never going to watch cable news again, I’m done with it, it’s a garbage medium with very few exceptions
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:32:39pm |
re: #336 moderatelyradicalliberal
Ari is an ass. How in the hell is paying for more teachers wealth redistribution when taxes already pay teachers salaries?
Fuck these people.
Really made me uncomfortable. He seemed honestly mortified that anyone would ask him to pay for teachers. Couldn’t fathom it when there’s a threat of his taxes going up. Creep.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:32:40pm |
re: #338 moderatelyradicalliberal
Wealth redistribution is their boogeyman.
Yet, every tax redistributes wealth.
And, here’s something the Tea Partiers just can’t grasp - every economic transaction is a redistribution of wealth. Every time something is sold/bought/traded there is a transfer of wealth of some kind.
re: #341 Slumbering Behemoth
You’ll live a happier life if you don’t watch TV.
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:33:22pm |
2 things I thought I heard her say.
1. Obama is responsible for 9% unemployment even though we hit that number 5 months into his presidency.
2. Did she say that the US had the highest corporate tax rate in the world?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:33:40pm |
re: #344 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
THE TELEPROMPTER WAS OBVIOUSLY AN OBAMA SYMPATHIZER!
///YOU FOOL IT WASN’T JUST A SYMPATHIZER, OBAMA IS LORD OF THE TELEPROMPTER, HE CAN CONTROL ALL OF THEM ACROSS THE WORLD! THAT IS WHY SHE SARAH PALIN NEEDED TO WRITE HER NOTES ON HER HAND!!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:33:51pm |
re: #346 McSpiff
Really made me uncomfortable. He seemed honestly mortified that anyone would ask him to pay for teachers. Couldn’t fathom it when there’s a threat of his taxes going up. Creep.
The country is FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS
The how dare you take my money solipsists, they’re America
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:34:12pm |
re: #348 Petero1818
2 things I thought I heard her say.
1. Obama is responsible for 9% unemployment even though we hit that number 5 months into his presidency.2. Did she say that the US had the highest corporate tax rate in the world?
you’re parsing the words of a disabled woman, don’t even try
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:34:14pm |
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:35:16pm |
re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist
Apparently derived from ‘government issued’.
I thought is was general infantry.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:35:34pm |
re: #350 WindUpBird
The country is FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS
The how dare you take my money solipsists, they’re America
And this is where it all comes down to.
Fraudulence
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:36:01pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:39:45pm |
My scaring of the night…
Obama: 7 - Same hollow promises about education and clean energy as Dubbya. Nothing new and nothing serious.
Ryan: 0 - I have no recollection of what he said. Those Brain cells seems to have died already.
Bahcmann: Eleventy!!@!11! - Most awesomest speech evah! Loved the Cupcake preferences of Fox employees at the start and loved the surprise Iwojimma analogy.
Big Tea Party Win!
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:39:54pm |
re: #351 WindUpBird
you’re parsing the words of a disabled woman, don’t even try
Since when is willful ignorance a disability?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:41:08pm |
re: #348 Petero1818
2 things I thought I heard her say.
1. Obama is responsible for 9% unemployment even though we hit that number 5 months into his presidency.2. Did she say that the US had the highest corporate tax rate in the world?
1. See? He was president for only five months, and he managed to get 9% unemployment. What will happen if he gets a second term?
2. Probably. She also said that the Founders worked tirelessly until slavery was gone.
//
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:42:22pm |
re: #353 recusancy
I thought is was general infantry.
So did I, but most of the internet sources seem to say that’s a misinterpretation.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:42:31pm |
I’ve decided that I hope Bachman runs for and get the nomination for President. Just in order to see her in the debates.
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jordash1212 Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:42:40pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:43:28pm |
re: #361 Jadespring
I’ve decided that I hope Bachman runs for and get the nomination for President. Just in order to see her in the debates.
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!”
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:43:32pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:43:34pm |
re: #356 Killgore Trout
On the sixth day God created cupcakes,
And He instructed the Man, whom he made just previously,
To go forth and make more cupcakes,
Giving them to all Creation.
And for this reason did God predestine America,
To spread cupcakes to all the righteous
And to withhold cupcakes from the wicked.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:44:39pm |
re: #346 McSpiff
Really made me uncomfortable. He seemed honestly mortified that anyone would ask him to pay for teachers. Couldn’t fathom it when there’s a threat of his taxes going up. Creep.
Gergen seemed to be having a hard time staying in his chair. He was genuinely incredulous. I think he wanted to slap some sense into him. I think I figured it out. If poor kids started getting decent educations, than Ari’s kids would have too much competition. Academic smarts and street smarts is a kick ass combination.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:45:04pm |
re: #366 Jadespring
The Fox vid link was live several minutes before the actual speech, during which time the Elect discussed cupcakes.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:45:54pm |
re: #367 moderatelyradicalliberal
Gergen seemed to be having a hard time staying in his chair. He was genuinely incredulous. I think he wanted to slap some sense into him. I think I figured it out. If poor kids started getting decent educations, than Ari’s kids would have too much competition. Academic smarts and street smarts is a kick ass combination.
Not that I’d ever advocate violence, but that would have been incredible.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:46:59pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:48:34pm |
re: #340 jaunte
Sputnik triggered NASA and the National Defense Education Act, which made improving technical and science education a national security issue. Obama thinks that would be a good idea.
Is that how Obama put it? If so, good.
Despite being born too late to witness the “OH SHIT! SCIENCE!” moment that Sputnik inspired, I do understand that it inspired us to get off our asses and start seriously competing with other nations in the scientific realm.
We should be having another “OH SHIT! SCIENCE!” moment right now, but other forces in our nation have been depressingly successful with the “Nothing to see here, move along” rhetoric.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:49:01pm |
Joe Biden looks so genuinely happy when Obama talks about repealing DADT. That’s just awesome.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:49:32pm |
re: #362 jordash1212
Here’s the transcript:
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
She’s hoping for a miracle.
But thanks to you, there’s reason for all of us to have hope that real spending cuts are coming, because last November, you went to the polls, and you voted out the big-spending politicians and you put in their place great men and women with a commitment to follow our Constitution and cut the size of government.
…snip…
Just the creation of this nation itself was a miracle. Who can say that we won’t see a miracle again?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:50:01pm |
re: #345 WindUpBird
I really am just never going to watch cable news again, I’m done with it, it’s a garbage medium with very few exceptions
It’s TV. It’s designed to appeal to a targeted mass market, not to someone as smart as you.
/Not snark. You really are smarter and more aware than average.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:50:22pm |
Andddd Ari gets called out for being a fat cat covered by the top tax cut. Beautiful.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:51:10pm |
I can see why the GOP leadership was so hacked over CNN carrying this speech. Tomorrow, Ryan’s boilerplate is going to be crowded out by Bachmann’s sideshow act and the reality that the GOP is anything but “united.”
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:51:31pm |
re: #375 jaunte
Reading that literally, it sounds like she is hoping for the creation of another country?
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:51:35pm |
The Tea Party response, video;
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
I’m not kidding, my Orville Redenbacher Microwave popcorn just finished popping and I’m ready to enjoy this. :-)
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:52:00pm |
re: #375 jaunte
She’s hoping for a miracle.
You mean the miracle that she’ll be taken seriously when primary season starts up? You betcha!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:52:20pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:52:38pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
It’s depressing. Now I have to figure out how to replace it.
I have a CRT I’m not using. You’re welcome to it, you just have to pick it up.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:52:41pm |
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deranged cat Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:52:49pm |
read the transcript. i think a lot of my braincells just died trying to comprehend the gibberish she just said.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:52:56pm |
re: #378 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yep. It knocks them off message and makes Bachmann the story.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. Heh.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:53:29pm |
re: #382 Dark_Falcon
Short Version: Paul Ryan is wrong and EVIL! Krugman is a hack.
No, Ryan played the FEAR CARD. Greece! Ireland!
Sorry, we don’t buy it beyond the typical fear mongering.
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albusteve Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:53:39pm |
re: #376 Dark_Falcon
It’s TV. It’s designed to appeal to a targeted mass market, not to someone as smart as you.
/Not snark. You really are smarter and more aware than average.
I’m at 167…top that
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:53:59pm |
re: #377 McSpiff
Anddd Ari gets called out for being a fat cat covered by the top tax cut. Beautiful.
Paul had time to calibrate a response. Gergen was stupefied.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:54:27pm |
re: #382 Dark_Falcon
Short Version: Paul Ryan is wrong and EVIL! Krugman is a hack.
No, just wrong and manipulating based on fear and lies. No more evil than the rest of the GOP in that respect.
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:54:33pm |
re: #382 Dark_Falcon
Short Version: Paul Ryan is wrong and EVIL! Krugman is a hack.
Krugman is not a hack. He’s a freakin economics nobel laureate! He’s rebutting his economics.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:55:36pm |
re: #391 recusancy
Krugman is not a hack. He’s a freakin economics nobel laureate! He’s rebutting his economics.
So much better than the GOP non responsibility party crying GREECE!
such bs
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:55:48pm |
re: #391 recusancy
Krugman is not a hack. He’s a freakin economics nobel laureate! He’s rebutting his economics.
D_F simply recites GOP talking points in these situations. Get your facts and logic out of here. Nobel laureate… more like cheese eating surrender monkey? amirite?
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:56:58pm |
I have realized yet again why I don’t watch pundit panel talks.
I end up yelling at and chucking things at the tv.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:58:06pm |
re: #394 Jadespring
I have realized yet again why I don’t watch pundit panel talks.
I end up yelling at and chucking things at the tv.
That’s sport for some. Usually the type that derives nutritional value from their own bile.
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makeitstop Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:58:52pm |
re: #339 Killgore Trout
She was glued to the teleprompter which the Fox News idiots didn’t put near the fucking camera. Amateur hour.
Hmm. Sabotaging one idiot so she doesn’t overshadow their idiot, maybe?
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:58:54pm |
tweet:
JamesUrbaniak
Bachmann reportedly directed her speech to Tea Party Express’s website camera instead of the one intended for the American public. Symbolic!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:59:07pm |
Now that I think about it, dave Bowman was kinda of a dick. Somebody should remake that from Hal’s point of view. Dave was a real stick in the mud and he got melded with that space fetus in the obelisk. Better than he deserved
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:59:34pm |
From the transcript:
The perilous battle that was fought during World War II in the Pacific at Iwo Jima was a battle against all odds, and yet this picture immortalizes the victory of young GIs over the incursion against the Japanese. These six young men raising the flag came to symbolize all of America coming together to beat back a totalitarian aggressor.
Um, wait.
Just.one.second.
Let’s parse that entire phrase:
…, and yet this picture immortalizes the victory of young GIs over the incursion against the Japanese.
This is as twisted as possible.
Iwo Jima was a Japanese island before WWII. It was the Americans who performed an incursion against the Japanese to take the island as the last useable piece of land before Tokyo (hundreds of miles away.)
Perfect example of Tea Partying stupidity.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:00:14pm |
re: #399 freetoken
Bachmann’s historical illiteracy is the least of her problems, but it’s symbolic of the Tea Party as a whole.
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simoom Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:00:34pm |
[Link: www.factcheck.org…]
Q: Will the IRS hire 16,500 new agents to enforce the health care law?
A: No. The law requires the IRS mostly to hand out tax credits, not collect penalties. The claim of 16,500 new agents stems from a partisan analysis based on guesswork and false assumptions, and compounded by outright misrepresentation.
…
This wildly inaccurate claim started as an inflated, partisan assertion that 16,500 new IRS employees might be required to administer the new law. That devolved quickly into a claim, made by some Republican lawmakers, that 16,500 IRS “agents” would be required. Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas even claimed in a televised interview that all 16,500 would be carrying guns. None of those claims is true.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:00:47pm |
re: #399 freetoken
Come to think of it, how can anyone have a victory over an incursion against something?
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:01:03pm |
re: #400 Lidane
The sentence would have been closer to correct had she said “… during the incursion against the Japanese”.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:01:58pm |
re: #403 freetoken
The sentence would have been closer to correct had she said “… during the incursion against the Japanese”.
Well, sure. But we’re talking about someone who thinks that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery. Historical accuracy isn’t her strong suit.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:02:11pm |
re: #402 jaunte
Heh, those little two letter words in English mean something, eh? Putting in “of” and “over” is just wrong.
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Single-handed sailor Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:02:15pm |
I just watched Michele Bachmann’s response.
WOW!
I need to set my calendar to remind me to watch SNL this week. I hope they aren’t doing reruns.
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:03:54pm |
Is there a link to a copy of the tea party response yet? Youtube or some such?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:04:39pm |
re: #399 freetoken
Aw c’mon. Everyone knows that Iwo Jima is Cherokee for… um…
/
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:04:41pm |
And, btw, the battle was not “against all odds”. By then the US ruled the Pacific and those marines were part of a naval force far superior to the Japanese.
The odds were on our side. The only question was how many American soldiers were going to die.
BTW, I had an uncle in that battle - he lived, but I’m positive it scarred him emotionally for the rest of his life.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:04:44pm |
re: #393 McSpiff
D_F simply recites GOP talking points in these situations. Get your facts and logic out of here. Nobel laureate… more like cheese eating surrender monkey? amirite?
When he’s just dealing with the economics, Krugman tends to stand on solid ground. But when he ventures into politics, he tends to be fairly partisan favoring the Dems. He can be a hack when he gets going in that sort of vein.
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:04:49pm |
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:05:31pm |
re: #410 Dark_Falcon
When he’s just dealing with the economics, Krugman tends to stand on solid ground. But when he ventures into politics, he tends to be fairly partisan favoring the Dems. He can be a hack when he gets going in that sort of vein.
So, since he was dealing with economics in the linked article…
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:06:18pm |
re: #409 freetoken
And, btw, the battle was not “against all odds”. By then the US ruled the Pacific and those marines were part of a naval force far superior to the Japanese.
The odds were on our side. The only question was how many American soldiers were going to die.
BTW, I had an uncle in that battle - he lived, but I’m positive it scarred him emotionally for the rest of his life.
Iwo Jima was actually the only island battle where we suffered more casualties than Japan. Mostly this was due to Gen. Kuribayashi’s excellently laid out defense.
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simoom Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:06:40pm |
re: #407 McSpiff
Is there a link to a copy of the tea party response yet? Youtube or some such?
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:06:41pm |
Speaking of which -
Fuck you, Bachmann, for exploiting my uncle’s life changing experience for your stupid exercise in self aggrandizing.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:06:52pm |
re: #404 Lidane
Well, sure. But we’re talking about someone who thinks that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery. Historical accuracy isn’t her strong suit.
The woman’s not even on speaking terms with reality. She’s been swearing up and down of late that Americans overwhelmingly want the whole of the Affordable Care Act abolished, when depending on which poll you go by, the number of those saying they want it totally abolished sits as high as 20% or as low as 8%.
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:07:14pm |
@407 Here’s a link:
[Link: www.mediaite.com…]
It’s the CNN live feed, i don’t think the Tea Party camera one is out yet. But this version with her looking at the wrong camera is for the history books.
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:07:29pm |
re: #410 Dark_Falcon
When he’s just dealing with the economics, Krugman tends to stand on solid ground. But when he ventures into politics, he tends to be fairly partisan favoring the Dems. He can be a hack when he gets going in that sort of vein.
What part of what Krugman said was wrong?
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:07:50pm |
My favourite line still is:
“And I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world.”
Would it sound better as “I believe that America is the most indispensable nation in the world?”
Or has Bachmann just completely screwed up my literary skills now? I can’t tell anymore it’s like these people make me more stupid.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:08:18pm |
re: #416 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The woman’s not even on speaking terms with reality.
Of course not. She’s part of the Tea Party. They couldn’t find reality even if it bit them in the ass.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:08:36pm |
re: #419 Jadespring
No, you got it right. To her other nations are dispensable.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:09:02pm |
re: #419 Jadespring
She’s just crazy. That line is basically American Exceptionalism mixed with weapons grade idiocy.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:09:14pm |
Except Israel, of course. They are needed to be sacrificed to the Anti-Christ.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:10:58pm |
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:11:44pm |
Sputnik is trending on Twitter.
Somewhere out there, heads are asploding.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:12:01pm |
re: #419 Jadespring
My fav was “We believe in a limited view of government”.
Limited view indeed.
I think she meant “a view of limited government”, but sometimes Freudian slips happen, and reveal more truth than the speaker cares to admit.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:12:13pm |
re: #422 Lidane
She’s just crazy. That line is basically American Exceptionalism mixed with weapons grade idiocy.
Which seems par for the course with the Loony Right.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:12:25pm |
Don’t dwell too deeply on Bachmann, guys. If you try to make sense of her, you’re brain won’t be able to cope and you’ll wind up as nutty as she is.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:12:43pm |
re: #427 Slumbering Behemoth
My fav was “We believe in a limited view of government”.
Limited view indeed.
I think she meant “a view of limited government”, but sometimes Freudian slips happen, and reveal more truth than the speaker cares to admit.
Yes that one was funny too.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:13:45pm |
re: #382 Dark_Falcon
Short Version: Paul Ryan is wrong and EVIL! Krugman is a hack.
Sorry, DF, but Ryan is wrong. His facts about Ireland and England are wrong. If you start an economic premise with the wrong information all you can do is make things worse. Despite being the height of fashion, austerity is bad economic policy and if implemented will tank the economy again as it did in 37/38.
Of course as Janesville, WI & the rest of the 1st Congressional Dist. shows, he’s quite good at helping people make things worse for working Americans.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:14:07pm |
re: #429 Dark_Falcon
Don’t dwell too deeply on Bachmann, guys. If you try to make sense of her, you’re brain won’t be able to cope and you’ll wind up as nutty as she is.
It’s like something out of a Lovecraft story: The more you try to understand her, the less sense she makes. Eventually, if you don’t step away from the abyss, you’ll crack and go mad.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:14:32pm |
re: #427 Slumbering Behemoth
My fav was “We believe in a limited view of government”.
Yep. Small enough to live in your bedroom and a woman’s uterus, and funded entirely by the poor and middle class, while the rich don’t pay in at all.
Definitely a limited view.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:15:05pm |
re: #429 Dark_Falcon
It’s just really odd to see someone responding to the SOTU adress who would seem at home in Dean Wormer’s retinue.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:15:21pm |
re: #429 Dark_Falcon
I gather that the depths of idiocy in that speech can not, in any one setting, be plumbed.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:15:36pm |
re: #429 Dark_Falcon
If you gaze into the Bachmann, the Bachmann gazes also into you.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:16:03pm |
re: #383 Slumbering Behemoth
I have a CRT I’m not using. You’re welcome to it, you just have to pick it up.
My screen just went black again. Still flickering. Been having problems for over a month. I think it’s about to keel over for good her any second now.
I have an old CRT as well. I can’t work on that piece of junk anymore and I sure one set that up at this hour.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:16:15pm |
re: #435 freetoken
I gather that the depths of idiocy in that speech can not, in any one setting, be plumbed.
Never, ever try to parse her idiocy. That way lies madness.
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:16:28pm |
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:16:54pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:17:14pm |
[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com…]
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McSpiff Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:17:39pm |
She reminds me of this guy when she talks about Iwo Jima for some reason. Not sure why.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:19:17pm |
Ha ha tweet from The Onion #sputnik Obama Announces We Are Once More At War With Russians
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:19:29pm |
Does anyone mind if I don’t waste time on her tonight?
I was at a Raingutter Regatta tonight. That’s a pinewood derby with boats.
To nobody’s surprise, the kid who is a competitive swimmer won. Lungs.
I’m kind of miffed that they had the kids race the moms and chose my son to go first, and he picked me. I won. I think I am the only parent who won.
Nobody told me I was supposed to lose. I stopped losing to him on purpose a couple of years ago.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:19:30pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:20:06pm |
re: #431 wlewisiii
Sorry, DF, but Ryan is wrong. His facts about Ireland and England are wrong. If you start an economic premise with the wrong information all you can do is make things worse. Despite being the height of fashion, austerity is bad economic policy and if implemented will tank the economy again as it did in 37/38.
Of course as Janesville, WI & the rest of the 1st Congressional Dist. shows, he’s quite good at helping people make things worse for working Americans.
What he was talking about was acting now to avoid the need for an austerity plan later. He made it clear that he thinks that sort of bad situation can be avoided.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:20:12pm |
re: #438 Lidane
Never, ever try to parse her idiocy. That way lies madness.
Men like John Quincy Adams will not rest until she is fully parsed.
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:20:16pm |
fivethirtyeight
CNN (84% favorable) and CBS (92% approval) polls show a very favorable response the #SOTU. However, ratings that high are quite common.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:20:17pm |
Another tweet:
I know #sputnik refers to the first satellite launched by the Soviets blah blah, but for some reason it always makes me think of potatoes.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:20:56pm |
re: #437 Gus 802
My screen just went black again. Still flickering. Been having problems for over a month. I think it’s about to keel over for good her any second now.
I have an old CRT as well. I can’t work on that piece of junk anymore and I sure one set that up at this hour.
I had the same problem with a CRT monitor over fifteen years ago. Here’s how ignorant and reckless I was at the time.
I kept the back of the case unscrewed so that I could pop it off and adjust the internal POTS as needed, live.
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elizajane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:21:00pm |
The AP has up an extraordinary attack piece on the SOTU. It could have been ghost written by the RNC, if they had a competent writer. What gives?
“Fact Check: Obama and His Imbalanced Ledger”
[Link: www.npr.org…]
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:21:10pm |
re: #433 Lidane
Yep. Small enough to live in your bedroom and a woman’s uterus, and funded entirely by the poor and middle class, while the rich don’t pay in at all.
Definitely a limited view.
I took it to mean they want to limit their view of government to only those parts they agree with. It helps when the rich and powerful fit you from birth with blinders to how “big government” has improved things. I mean, who needs clean air or water? Or a 40-hr work week? Or children in school rather than in the coal mine? If our Founding Fathers had wanted those for us, they’d have written them in the Constitution!
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Skeetghazi Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:21:45pm |
floridaherb68
My Nephew Tommy from Iwo Jima looked just like Eddie Munster when I told him about Sputnik! There! That ought to do it!
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:21:52pm |
re: #451 Slumbering Behemoth
I had the same problem with a CRT monitor over fifteen years ago. Here’s how ignorant and reckless I was at the time.
I kept the back of the case unscrewed so that I could pop it off and adjust the internal POTS as needed, live.
Bzzzt. Boom!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:22:11pm |
re: #442 Gus 802
Good luck, dude. Hope you find a quick and affordable solution.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:22:46pm |
re: #456 Slumbering Behemoth
Good luck, dude. Hope you find a quick and affordable solution.
Thanks. But I doubt it will be affordable. This is going to run about 150 bucks.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:24:05pm |
re: #452 elizajane
The AP has up an extraordinary attack piece on the SOTU. It could have been ghost written by the RNC, if they had a competent writer. What gives?
“Fact Check: Obama and His Imbalanced Ledger”
[Link: www.npr.org…]
It’s simple: He kept talking about projects requiring additional spending, and did not propose cuts to match. Thus his ledger did not balance.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:25:08pm |
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:25:26pm |
I had to work tonite and missed all the hullabaloo.
How is everyone and was it a good SOTU?
I won’t ask about the response, I have a feeling it was hilarious.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:25:53pm |
re: #459 Dark_Falcon
It’s simple: He kept talking about projects requiring additional spending, and did not propose cuts to match. Thus his ledger did not balance.
Yeah, but don’t forget. Invading Iran, Venezuela, Kuwait, Yemen, and Somalia like the GOP wants to do is going to cost even more!
//
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recusancy Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:26:36pm |
re: #452 elizajane
The AP has up an extraordinary attack piece on the SOTU. It could have been ghost written by the RNC, if they had a competent writer. What gives?
“Fact Check: Obama and His Imbalanced Ledger”
[Link: www.npr.org…]
That article attacks the CBO. So take it with a grain of salt. Looks like the AP is trying out the Politco Drudgebait game.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:26:46pm |
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:26:57pm |
re: #460 freetoken
Amazon has some low cost lcd screens:
[Link: www.amazon.com…]
Thanks. But theoretically I need one tomorrow and with cash.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:27:13pm |
re: #455 Gus 802
It never happened, and I foolishly fiddled with it that way several times a day, for well over a month.
But now that I think of it, I was also living with a girlfriend that made a sport of making me miserable, so maybe my subconscious mind was trying to free me from my private hell.
/
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:27:39pm |
re: #447 Dark_Falcon
What he was talking about was acting now to avoid the need for an austerity plan later. He made it clear that he thinks that sort of bad situation can be avoided.
The problem is that any cutting back right now puts us into “austerity” from an economic perspective. We need to be increasing spending on infrastructure, research & education - stimulus and investment in other words - rather than worry too much about the deficit. Ending the bleeding, both literal and monetary, at DoD would do much more to help the economy than anything in Ryan’s proposals.
But then, I believe in the Keynesian Analysis and think that the real problem with the previous stimulus was far too small, so there is my bias on this matter.
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Mickey_being_mickey Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:30:10pm |
Who produced this video? The Degrassi Junior High A/V Club?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:30:21pm |
re: #457 Gus 802
Thanks. But I doubt it will be affordable. This is going to run about 150 bucks.
And sadly, $150 is about the cheapest, new monitor you can find now-a-days.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:30:21pm |
re: #462 Gus 802
Yeah, but don’t forget. Invading Iran, Venezuela, Kuwait, Yemen, and Somalia like the GOP wants to do is going to cost even more!
//
I don’t even know where to begin with that remark.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:31:06pm |
re: #451 Slumbering Behemoth
I had the same problem with a CRT monitor over fifteen years ago. Here’s how ignorant and reckless I was at the time.
I kept the back of the case unscrewed so that I could pop it off and adjust the internal POTS as needed, live.
Oh, my…
Once my job was disassembling CRT’s for recycling and/or rebuilding, depending. I remember one time I grabbed the PS board across two of the big capacitors.
I remember getting up off the floor and feeling queezy the rest of the day.
I crunched the equations that night at home. I shouldn’t have survived it.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:31:18pm |
re: #469 Slumbering Behemoth
And sadly, $150 is about the cheapest, new monitor you can find now-a-days.
Yeah. I’m pretty reluctant about getting one used and buying one with the same problem.
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:31:58pm |
re: #459 Dark_Falcon
It’s simple: He kept talking about projects requiring additional spending, and did not propose cuts to match. Thus his ledger did not balance.
I don’t think it matters really. I think he proposed some good things and things that should be done in order look towards a more prosperous future.
Unfortunately whether the ‘ledger’ balances or not with the political climate as it is these days it’s unlikely much would happen to any great extent.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:32:06pm |
re: #465 Gus 802
Heh, Craigslist may not longer be the spot for finding an exotic quickie, but it does have computer parts:
[Link: denver.craigslist.org…]
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:33:20pm |
re: #474 freetoken
Heh, Craigslist may not longer be the spot for finding an exotic quickie, but it does have computer parts:
[Link: denver.craigslist.org…]
Thanks again. I’ll look into it. Need to round up the money first.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:34:17pm |
re: #471 wlewisiii
Yeah, my futsing with the POTS happened before I new anything about the kinds of charges a capacitor could hold even while “not live”.
It’s a wonder I’m still alive.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:34:55pm |
reine.de.tout
BTW ,, If you’re looking in, I got both your “test” e-mail yesterday afternoon
Just responded a little while ago as I took a break from my work e-mails for a day
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:35:46pm |
re: #473 Jadespring
I don’t think it matters really. I think he proposed some good things and things that should be done in order look towards a more prosperous future.
Unfortunately whether the ‘ledger’ balances or not with the political climate as it is these days it’s unlikely much would happen to any great extent.
The current House is not led by fans of additional spending. And voters knew that when they voted Republican. So yes, most of that new spending is going to meet the Congressional ax.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:36:48pm |
re: #468 Mickey_being_mickey
Who produced this video? The Degrassi Junior High A/V Club?
Pfft. Degrassi is Canadian. That video was pure American Exceptionalism on display, lovingly produced by Fox News and the Tea Party.
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:37:17pm |
re: #472 Gus 802
Yeah. I’m pretty reluctant about getting one used and buying one with the same problem.
Dell Outlet’s a good place to get a decent refurbished monitor.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:38:02pm |
re: #478 Dark_Falcon
The current House is not led by fans of additional spending. /blockquote>
It’s also not led by fans of reality, but that’s okay. At the rate they’re going, they’ve got the next two years to ensure Obama’s re-election.
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Mickey_being_mickey Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:39:25pm |
re: #479 Lidane
Duh, Degrassi is from Canadia. I hope Jeebus will forgive me for besmirching American Exceptionalism
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:40:07pm |
re: #479 Lidane
Pfft. Degrassi is Canadian. That video was pure American Exceptionalism on display, lovingly produced by Fox News and the Tea Party.
Degrassi is actually a good show. I’m one of a good number of people at my office who watch it. As of late, its also been a serious talent pool for the CW netlet, which has used no fewer than 4 actors and actresses from Degrassi as series regulars or recurring characters on its shows.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:40:18pm |
re: #482 Mickey_being_mickey
Duh, Degrassi is from Canadia. I hope Jeebus will forgive me for besmirching American Exceptionalism
Say 10 “Hail Sarah“‘s and buy Beck’s latest book and all will be forgiven, my child.
/
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:41:25pm |
re: #472 Gus 802
Yeah. I’m pretty reluctant about getting one used and buying one with the same problem.
Look here: Dell Outlet - Monitors
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Lidane Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:41:34pm |
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
I didn’t say it was a bad show. I was merely pointing out that it’s Canadian, and therefore wasn’t used by those patriotic Tea Party types to produce anything tonight. Heh.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:43:33pm |
re: #377 McSpiff
Anddd Ari gets called out for being a fat cat covered by the top tax cut. Beautiful.
that guy can eat a full bag of shit, awesome
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:44:32pm |
G’nite all. May we all awake to a better tomorrow, a tomorrow where the Bachmanns of the world serve burgers instead of political pablum.
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Mickey_being_mickey Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:44:49pm |
re: #486 Lidane
Next thing you know, those Candians will want to play the great game of hockey. The game our Founders played when they weren’t busy freeing slaves and paving the way for Michele’s greatness.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:46:12pm |
re: #472 Gus 802
Yeah. I’m pretty reluctant about getting one used and buying one with the same problem.
look for an LCD with IPS (in-plane switching) LCD technology if you can, better quality and viewability, and 99% of outlet places don’t know the difference
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Jadespring Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:46:32pm |
re: #478 Dark_Falcon
The current House is not led by fans of additional spending. And voters knew that when they voted Republican. So yes, most of that new spending is going to meet the Congressional ax.
I’m not talking just about spending. I’m talking just as much about vision. Obama is 100% right when he was talking about China and India and the need to keep on top through science and research, innovation and education. He was politely saying if we don’t get together and get our butts into some real high gear we’re gonna be left behind. Same with the energy issues.
Do the Republicans and other opponents talk like this at all? Nope. For the most part they refuse to recognize it or even talk about. America is good and is destined to always be good! That’s all that matters and if you say we ain’t then you’re some sort of traitor. It’s really myopic and backward thinking.
It’s also missing out on a huge opportunity. Less stable times, less uncertain times when things aren’t working quite right are often the best times to revamp, innovate and figure out better and even perhaps new ways to move forward into something even better.
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:47:49pm |
re: #490 WindUpBird
look for an LCD with IPS (in-plane switching) LCD technology if you can, better quality and viewability, and 99% of outlet places don’t know the difference
It doesn’t sound like an IPS screen is in Gus’ budget…
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:49:55pm |
re: #493 Gus 802
Probably not.
What size are you looking for? Dell Outlet has an 18.5” 1366 x 768 monitor for $99.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:50:01pm |
re: #493 Gus 802
Probably not.
How about an Etch-A-Sketch
To change screens, hold over head and shake vigorously
To change fonts, hold over head and shake vigorously
To delete work, hold over head and shake vigorously
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:51:15pm |
re: #494 talon_262
What size are you looking for? Dell Outlet has an 18.5” 1366 x 768 monitor for $99.
I’ve been using a standard screen 20 inch for a while now. Can’t find those anymore so it would have to be something like a 22 inch wide screen.
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ElCapitanAmerica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:51:16pm |
Is teapartyexpress dot org the official Tea Party website? Funny because they’re showing a video from Rand Paul not Bachmann, wonder if even they are too embarrassed by her.
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:51:53pm |
re: #494 talon_262
And for the record, I’ve bought a few refurb monitors and a couple of refurb systems from Dell Outlet over the years, for myself and others…I’ve never had a problem with any of them and they generally carry the same basic warranties as their new items.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:52:35pm |
re: #494 talon_262
What size are you looking for? Dell Outlet has an 18.5” 1366 x 768 monitor for $99.
Like this one…
[Link: www.bestbuy.com…]
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:55:30pm |
re: #499 Gus 802
Like this one…
[Link: www.bestbuy.com…]
Asus is pretty good, though I’ve not used their monitors…pretty good price, too.
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BryanS Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:56:04pm |
Though it was less “exciting” I have to say it was nice not to see the one-side-applause-while-other-side-grimaces kabuki dance when an applause line hit. That, and the inane commentary on the theatrics.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:56:41pm |
re: #490 WindUpBird
look for an LCD with IPS (in-plane switching) LCD technology if you can, better quality and viewability, and 99% of outlet places don’t know the difference
There are a lot of crappy TN panels out there. Especially in the big box stores. Some of them are OK though. Samsungs are pretty good TN panels, they have some lower prices ones.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:56:50pm |
re: #497 ElCapitanAmerica
Their splash page has the Bachmann photo and announcment of her speech…
I think they run the Rand video because he is simply more capable in front of a camera.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 9:57:30pm |
re: #500 talon_262
Asus is pretty good, though I’ve not used their monitors…pretty good price, too.
They’ve also go a 20 inch widescreen HP on sale for 100 bucks. Hmmm.
[Link: www.bestbuy.com…]
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:00:58pm |
re: #502 Amory Blaine
There are a lot of crappy TN panels out there. Especially in the big box stores. Some of them are OK though. Samsungs are pretty good TN panels, they have some lower prices ones.
TN is acceptable for most things, but from a major brand (the major OEMs [Dell, HP] and the major CE companies like Samsung, Asus, etc.)
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:02:46pm |
re: #502 Amory Blaine
There are a lot of crappy TN panels out there. Especially in the big box stores. Some of them are OK though. Samsungs are pretty good TN panels, they have some lower prices ones.
The refurb Dell monitors I’ve had are TN, but do pretty good, even for videos and gaming.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:03:30pm |
re: #506 talon_262
The refurb Dell monitors I’ve had are TN, but do pretty good, even for videos and gaming.
This one probably only needs two 99 cent capacitors to be replaced.
//
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:04:06pm |
-35° + Blowing Bubbles= Fun
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:04:22pm |
re: #507 Gus 802
This one probably only needs two 99 cent capacitors to be replaced.
//
That’ll cost more than a new one to fix, with labor, parts and S&H…
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:04:44pm |
No joke though. I’ve replaced my MX1000 mouse a few time because the stupid switch broke. And that’s probably a 1 dollar part. I’ve repaired it before and it’s a copper connector inside the switch.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:06:21pm |
re: #509 talon_262
That’ll cost more than a new one to fix, with labor, parts and S&H…
Yeah. The full story on this one is that it’s a Samsung 204B. Bought it once. This is my third one. Had two of them breakdown but was covered by the warranty. This one lasted the longest but came with this tiny stupid blotch on the screen. They’re either made in Mexico or China.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:07:07pm |
re: #511 talon_262
You look at Newegg?
Yep. Again, I really need one fast because I’m in the middle of a project.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:07:26pm |
re: #512 Gus 802
Yikes I’ve always liked Samsung. Sorry for recommending them :)
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:08:02pm |
re: #514 Amory Blaine
Yikes I’ve always liked Samsung. Sorry for recommending them :)
Could have been a particular product model thing.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:08:52pm |
My BIL is a radiologist, and had a mega-expensive monitor for working at home.
He kept the thing in his daughters’ room, because he didn’t have his own office.
Made me nervous.
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:09:04pm |
re: #513 Gus 802
Yep. Again, I really need one fast because I’m in the middle of a project.
That’s a pisser…wish you had more time to shop around for a better deal.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:09:26pm |
re: #503 freetoken
Their splash page has the Bachmann photo and announcment of her speech…
I think they run the Rand video because he is simply more capable in front of a camera.
Not a surprise. Yes, he was a dentist. But that at least requires a good level of intelligence as well as a modest level of people skills. Michelle Bachmann is a nightmare version of Mr. Smith goes to Washington, possessing neither the skills nor polish of the man she replaced.
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tnguitarist Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:09:55pm |
They can have my incandescent light bulbs when they pry them from my cold, dead sockets.
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Areopagitica Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:10:00pm |
Something tells me that Michele Bachmann would endorse clubbing baby seals if it meant protecting subsidies to Exxon and its $20 billion profits and allowing BP to drill like there’s no tomorrow in ANWR.
Seriously, she and her ilk have one screwed up vision of where this country should go. China must be loving this; the founding fathers, not so much.
Were any of the stats that Bachmann presented tonight inaccurate? I saw that graph she put up had the logo of the TP
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:11:48pm |
re: #517 talon_262
That’s a pisser…wish you had more time to shop around for a better deal.
Story of my life. Although, my father did say my aunt want to talk with me… hmmm… my birthday is pretty soon. Maybe not. I’m too old for that sort of thing. :)
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TedStriker Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:12:40pm |
re: #521 Gus 802
Story of my life. Although, my father did say my aunt want to talk with me… hmmm… my birthday is pretty soon. Maybe not. I’m too old for that sort of thing. :)
You’re in Cali, right?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:12:51pm |
re: #521 Gus 802
Story of my life. Although, my father did say my aunt want to talk with me… hmmm… my birthday is pretty soon. Maybe not. I’m too old for that sort of thing. :)
Actually, I was just thinking of when my brother in law lost his computer while he was looking for a job and applying to graduate schools.
The final solution was that it was right before Christmas, and both sets of parents and the siblings that had them for Christmas that year pitched in.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:13:04pm |
re: #520 Areopagitica
Something tells me that Michele Bachmann would endorse clubbing baby seals if it meant protecting subsidies to Exxon and its $20 billion profits and allowing BP to drill like there’s no tomorrow in ANWR.
Seriously, she and her ilk have one screwed up vision of where this country should go. China must be loving this; the founding fathers, not so much.
Were any of the stats that Bachmann presented tonight inaccurate? I saw that graph she put up had the logo of the TP
I doubt the actual chart figures were incorrect. It would be too easy to fact check and the Democrats would kill her with any major error.
/not literally kill her, of course.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:14:08pm |
re: #521 Gus 802
Story of my life. Although, my father did say my aunt want to talk with me… hmmm… my birthday is pretty soon. Maybe not. I’m too old for that sort of thing. :)
Honestly, given the hard time you’re having, a small bit of charity is appropriate to take.
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Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:14:21pm |
re: #523 EmmmieG
Actually, I was just thinking of when my brother in law lost his computer while he was looking for a job and applying to graduate schools.
The final solution was that it was right before Christmas, and both sets of parents and the siblings that had them for Christmas that year pitched in.
That’s a life saver.
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BryanS Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:15:24pm |
re: #519 tnguitarist
They can have my incandescent light bulbs when they pry them from my cold, dead sockets.
No problem. Just buy one of these new European “heat balls”. They conveniently fit in light sockets.
Skirting EU law: The rebranding of incandescent bulbs as ‘Heat Balls’
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:16:08pm |
re: #518 Dark_Falcon
Rand looks at the camera and uses prepositions correctly.
Other than that, it was just as loony.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:16:18pm |
re: #379 freetoken
Reading that literally, it sounds like she is hoping for the creation of another country?
I think that’s it!
Some sort of time warp. A certain portion of the populace (tea partiers) is living in a yesterdayland and think that it is today. Others are living in a tomorrowland (I dunno, help me out here—probably the ones that think Utopia is possible on Earth) and also think it is today.
The rest of us are just trying to get thru today and get a good night’s sleep so we can face tomorrow.
Those that are living in yesterdayland are pissed at Obama for trying to face current challenges instead of undoing the mistakes that they see has keeping us from being their vision of yesterdayland.
Tommorrowlanders are pissed at Obama because he isn’t making sweeping changes to correct mistakes they perceive as roadblocks to tomorrowland.
I’m just happy there is still chocolate for sale today.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:16:47pm |
re: #530 BryanS
No problem. Just buy one of these new European “heat balls”. They conveniently fit in light sockets.
Skirting EU law: The rebranding of incandescent bulbs as ‘Heat Balls’
Nice. That may happen here, too. I love it when someone manages to put one past the bureaucracy.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:17:27pm |
re: #531 freetoken
Rand looks at the camera and uses prepositions correctly.
Other than that, it was just as loony.
Yeah, but those things do still make a big difference.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:20:18pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:22:43pm |
If Rand Paul and Michele Bachmann ever do a video wearing black leather corsets…
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:23:07pm |
re: #535 freetoken
[Video]
I KNEW that’s what you were linking before I checked!
Seriously, it is like people are living in a different reality.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:23:35pm |
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BryanS Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:23:35pm |
re: #533 Dark_Falcon
Nice. That may happen here, too. I love it when someone manages to put one past the bureaucracy.
Heat from light bulbs is actually a very efficient way to generate heat—not so much for light. But in a cold winter up north, incandescent in the winter months actually would be a more green option than florescent—the heat they generate would reduce the load of say an oil or gas furnace.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:25:20pm |
re: #535 freetoken
[Video]
seen Tim Curry lately?
Seriously talented, believe it or not.
He does a lot of audio book narrations —excellent! Although I snicker everytime I realize it is TIM CURRY! teehee
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:26:24pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:27:18pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:28:24pm |
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simoom Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:29:29pm |
re: #452 elizajane
The AP has up an extraordinary attack piece on the SOTU. It could have been ghost written by the RNC, if they had a competent writer. What gives?
“Fact Check: Obama and His Imbalanced Ledger”
[Link: www.npr.org…]
Wow… Calvin Woodward had some pretty crazy “fact checks” during the Dem primaries, and during the last SoTU too, but that one takes the cake with being intentionally obtuse, “fact checking”through speculation and supposition, and just plain going off on tangents to complain about something semi-related instead of arguing the validity of statements of fact. He also seems to like factchecking statements concerning future action, for example the pledge to veto future earmarks, which you’d think would be difficult minus a time machine.
Here it is up at msnbc health with Woodward getting the byline:
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freetoken Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:32:41pm |
re: #545 simoom
…for example the pledge to veto future earmarks, which you’d think would be difficult minus a time machine.
See my previous post.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:36:40pm |
re: #547 Gus 802
What is the deal with this show?
I never watch TV, I just see the names of shows on the fronts of tabloids in the grocery store line.
| 550 |
Gus Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:39:32pm |
re: #549 ggt
[Video]What is the deal with this show?
I never watch TV, I just see the names of shows on the fronts of tabloids in the grocery store line.
Never watched it. Not really a fan of pop music, affected nostalgia, singers that bend notes, etc, etc.
| 552 |
FemNaziBitch Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:41:17pm |
re: #550 Gus 802
Never watched it. Not really a fan of pop music, affected nostalgia, singers that bend notes, etc, etc.
Yeah, I’m not going to watch it either.
Well, as happy as I am to be communicating from my VERY OWN laptop, instead of my kid’s, I have to go to sleep.
Have a great morning all!
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simoom Tue, Jan 25, 2011 10:41:48pm |
re: #549 ggt
[Video]
What is the deal with this show?
I watched the first couple episodes on Hulu, but lost interest. It was over auto-tuned for my tastes.
| 555 |
The Optimist Wed, Jan 26, 2011 6:57:22am |
I need a beer. Obama is trying to convince everyone that he has turned around 180 degrees in his policies. I need a beer and breakfast.
| 556 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Jan 26, 2011 6:59:56am |
re: #555 venezuela lover
What are you on about?
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lostlakehiker Wed, Jan 26, 2011 8:28:15am |
re: #231 Obdicut
And we don’t have the right to make other ones.
You mean a tax on the coal companies and electric utilities, right, not the consumers?
What’s the difference? The tax will have the exact same effect no matter who officially bears the cost. There’s even a theorem in economics to that effect.
It’s just like social security. On paper, the employer pays part, and the employee pays part. But everyone would have the same after-tax income if the law had been written differently from the outset, making the employer pay all, or the employee pay all, or anywhere in between.
Supply and demand adjusts to the costs of a tax. When it sorts itself out, the burden of the tax on a transaction between two parties has been split, no matter who initially was tagged “it” to be the one who pays.
The consumer will see somewhat higher electricity prices, more so if their electricity comes entirely from coal-fired plants. Happily for the consumer in this day of new and better lighting technology, he/she can get more lumen hours for less money notwithstanding getting fewer kwh for more money.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Jan 26, 2011 8:48:31am |
re: #557 lostlakehiker
What’s the difference? The tax will have the exact same effect no matter who officially bears the cost. There’s even a theorem in economics to that effect.
There’s lots of theorems in economics. They’re not all true. That one happens not to be. As you apparently always need reminding, one of the main rules of economics is that the price of a good is set at what the market will bear, not by the costs of production. I know it’s an article of faith with you that a manufacturer passes all costs to the consumer, but it’s simply not, and never has been, true.
Furthermore, a tax on the companies— on their profits— would be entirely different from a tax on the per-unit consumption, and different again from a Pigovian tax on the negative externalities produced by that company. So I’m seriously asking you which one you mean:
A) A tax on the companies’ profits from the undesirable activity, a cost born by that company alone, since they cannot increase profits by raising prices since their price point is assumed to already be optimal; if they do raise the price, the consumers will use less, lowering their per-unit profit. The only time they would be right to raise prices is when their profit margin had actually shrunk to unprofitability, otherwise they will always lose money by raising price in an elastic market.
B) A tax on the negative externalities of the companies’ activity; a Pigovian tax on pollution. The amount of pollution a company puts out can be quantified and a tax levied based on that amount. Again, this cost is not passed to the consumer because doing so would adjust the optimum price point of the good. While the facile reading of a Pigovian tax would be that the production of the good would therefore decrease, the real-world effect is that the production of the pollutant decreases— by use of CO2 scrubbers and the like— costs which are born by the polluter and not passed to the consumer.
C) A tax on personal consumption. This will have the effect of lowering the personal consumption where possible, but in cases where it is not possible (energy use was already near optimal), it will simply be a regressive tax on consumers. It will also have the unwanted effect of, since it is causing less product to be consumed, dropping the price on the product— it will alter the optimum price point for the product to a lower level. So, of all the forms of taxation on a pollutant, this is the only one that would potentially not result in any positive outcome; just as much pollutant would be produced, and a regressive tax would be in effect.
I know we’ve had these conversations many, many times, and yet you continue to blindly believe, for no reason that I can understand, that companies pass all costs down the consumer in all cases. It’s really bizarre.
If the customers were willing to pay, say, $1.05 instead of $1.00 per item, and consume the same number of items, why wasn’t the company already charging $1.05?
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RabbitRunner Wed, Jan 26, 2011 8:54:21am |
Well at least someone is doing some political comedy, these SOTU addresses are a horrific bore with out them
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Ming Wed, Jan 26, 2011 9:31:18am |
We can now expect some of the right-wing “pundits” to yell and scream about all the times when Democrats looked into the wrong TV camera when they gave their librul speeches.
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MinisterO Wed, Jan 26, 2011 3:06:37pm |
re: #539 BryanS
Heat from light bulbs is actually a very efficient way to generate heat—not so much for light. But in a cold winter up north, incandescent in the winter months actually would be a more green option than florescent—the heat they generate would reduce the load of say an oil or gas furnace.
This falls on a fine line between kinda smart and really stupid.
Essentially all of the energy used by a home appliance ends up as heat within the home. Computers and televisions and electric stoves and florescent tubes and incandescent bulbs are all equally efficient heaters (at least in a windowless room - light going out a window obviously doesn’t heat the room).
If you’re heating anyway there’s no such thing as waste heat, and you can run whatever appliances you like with a clean conscience. Whether heating that way is greener than burning oil or gas depends on the source of electricity. Oil and gas are usually cheaper, in cost per BTU in the home.
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lostlakehiker Wed, Jan 26, 2011 5:10:02pm |
re: #558 Obdicut
There’s lots of theorems in economics. They’re not all true. That one happens not to be. [Wow. You’re better at economics than the professionals.] As you apparently always need reminding, one of the main rules of economics is that the price of a good is set at what the market will bear, not by the costs of production. [What the market will bear means the INTERSECTION of the demand curve and the supply curve. Shift the supply curve right, reflecting a per unit tax say, and the intersection moves down and right. Higher price, less used. Both producer and consumer share the tax burden.]
I know it’s an article of faith with you that a manufacturer passes all costs to the consumer, [no it isn’t] but it’s simply not, and never has been, true. [Nor did I ever say so.]Furthermore, a tax on the companies— on their profits— would be entirely different from a tax on the per-unit consumption, and different again from a Pigovian tax on the negative externalities produced by that company. So I’m seriously asking you which one you mean:
A) A tax on the companies’ profits from the undesirable activity, …
[Do you have any idea how loaded with assumptions this question is?]B) A tax on the negative externalities of the companies’ activity;[snip That’s the tax I had in mind: a tax on the release of CO2 into the atmosphere.]
C) A tax on personal consumption.[snip…not the one I had in mind anyhow.]
I know we’ve had these conversations many, many times, and yet you continue to blindly believe, for no reason that I can understand, that companies pass all costs down the consumer in all cases. It’s really bizarre.
If the customers were willing to pay, say, $1.05 instead of $1.00 per item, and consume the same number of items, why wasn’t the company already charging $1.05?
If you’d read what I wrote, you’d see that I said the exact opposite of the stance you just put in my mouth. The views I actually hold, and actually express in writing, are very different from the ones you impute to me in your responses. Those views, go figure, are indeed bizarre.
Consider the social security tax. This is a tax on the transaction of labor for wages. The formalities of who pays the tax are beside the point. Whether the tax be levied on the worker, or on the employer, the after tax wages of the worker will be the same. In no case is the employer able to pass all of the cost on to the worker, nor is the worker able to pass all of the cost on to the employer. Both share the burden in reality, however the law is worded. You should know this about economics. It’s not arcana. It’s basic.
A tax on release of CO2 into the atmosphere is, in the medium run, effectively a tax on the consumption of kwh’s. Until new plant can be built, whoever wants to buy kwh’s must buy them from the local utility, which must generate them by burning coal. [Yes, there’s green energy, but too little.] The burden of the tax ends up being shared. When the price of fish at the wharf rises, the price of fish in the supermarket and the restaurant goes up too. The supermarket and the restaurant lose profits AND the consumer buys less and pays more. It’s the same with coal.
In the long run, we’d shift to wind, solar, and nuclear. All would benefit. Our current methods for generating electricity are unsustainable.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Jan 26, 2011 5:29:06pm |
re: #562 lostlakehiker
I know it’s an article of faith with you that a manufacturer passes all costs to the consumer, [no it isn’t] but it’s simply not, and never has been, true. [Nor did I ever say so.]
Then why do you believe taxation is passed to the consumer, when it’s just another cost?
When the price of fish at the wharf rises, the price of fish in the supermarket and the restaurant goes up too.
No, I’m sorry, this is just not true no matter how many times you say it. The price of fish sticks may remain the same during any number of swings of fish prices, because the optimal price point of fish sticks is independent of the cost of fish sticks. Likewise, the price of the broiled scrod at a restaurant will likely remain the same.
I’m really not sure why you basically ignored everything I wrote— while accusing me of putting the opposite words in your mouth.
Supply and demand adjusts to the costs of a tax. When it sorts itself out, the burden of the tax on a transaction between two parties has been split, no matter who initially was tagged “it” to be the one who pays.
This is not true. If the producer has high enough profit margins, they may eat the entire cost of the tax, just as they’d eat the entire cost of any rise in cost, because to raise the price would adjust the price point and lose them money.
I acknowledge you are saying that the price is split; this makes no more sense than saying the whole cost is passed down. What happens in each, individual case depends on what the market will bear. It is not always split. You are wrong.
A tax on release of CO2 into the atmosphere is, in the medium run, effectively a tax on the consumption of kwh’s
Nope. I have no idea why you’re ignoring the fact that companies can act to release less CO2 while producing the same number of KWHs. I know it doesn’t fit in with your argument, but CO2 scrubbers and other technologies really, really do exist. I swear.
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