Bill O’Reilly interviews Barack Obama before the Super Bowl.
My favorite moment was near the end, when O’Reilly said, “I hope you think I’m fair to you, I try to be.”
And Obama just looked at him, long enough to make the point.
Youtube Video(Note: this video clip may disappear from YouTube soon.)
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:40:08pm |
You think FNC is going to try to memory hole this O’Reilly disaster, Charles?
/You betcha!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:41:26pm |
re: #1 talon_262
They’re very aggressive about protecting their copyrights on YouTube, and they have the right.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:43:27pm |
Repeated from the Superbowl thread.
Can I just say as an non American, that I really like your President.
You all should be very proud.
I admire the America he believes in.
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:49:00pm |
re: #2 Charles
They’re very aggressive about protecting their copyrights on YouTube, and they have the right.
FNC definitely does have the right to request their materials be pulled from YT per the provisions of the DMCA. However, IMO, it doesn’t make it right, even if the clip makes O’Reilly look like a walking dick; seems like a case for fair use to me.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:49:46pm |
re: #4 talon_262
FNC definitely does have the right to request their materials be pulled from YT per the provisions of the DMCA. However, IMO, it doesn’t make it right, even if the clip makes O’Reilly look like a walking dick; seems like a case for fair use to me.
It’s more than 14 minutes. It’s not just a clip, it’s the whole interview.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:50:05pm |
Questions on O’Reilly’s B list:
Mr President, do you still kick puppies?
Mr President, tell us what you remember about being born in Kenya?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:53:08pm |
re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Questions on O’Reilly’s B list:
Mr President, do you still kick puppies?
Mr President, tell us what you remember about being born in Kenya?
To be fair, O’Reilly has never been a birther and he’s always dismissed them as foolish.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:53:40pm |
re: #7 Dark_Falcon
To be fair, O’Reilly has never been a birther and he’s always dismissed them as foolish.
Thats why it was on the B list.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:54:44pm |
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:55:22pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
It’s more than 14 minutes. It’s not just a clip, it’s the whole interview.
Shit, didn’t notice that since I’m at work and can’t really play it here. In that case, FNC is within their rights to have the file pulled; if it were an excerpt, fair use could apply, but not on the whole thing.
My bad…
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:56:53pm |
re: #10 talon_262
Still doesn’t make O’Reilly any less of a walking dick, though…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:56:54pm |
re: #10 talon_262
Shit, didn’t notice that since I’m at work and can’t really play it here. In that case, FNC is within their rights to have the file pulled; if it were an excerpt, fair use could apply, but not on the whole thing.
My bad…
No problem.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 6:59:13pm |
re: #10 talon_262
Shit, didn’t notice that since I’m at work and can’t really play it here. In that case, FNC is within their rights to have the file pulled; if it were an excerpt, fair use could apply, but not on the whole thing.
My bad…
Unless they are idiots, the WH Public Affairs people would have maintained rights in the interview.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:02:25pm |
I do like how Obama laughed at the “big government liberal” thing. Fox News talking points are a laughable joke.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:06:22pm |
wow talk about culture shock going from Masterpiece Theater to Hawaii 50
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:08:04pm |
re: #15 PhillyPretzel
What is so funny about the WSJ?
Their op ed section went off the rails after the election. They started running wild conspiracy theories, bogus information, hysterical doom and gloom predictions. Part of that is Murdoch broke his promise to tamper with the content of the paper and the other factor was a black man in the white house. They really went nuts.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:08:54pm |
re: #19 Killgore Trout
Their op ed section went off the rails after the election. They started running wild conspiracy theories, bogus information, hysterical doom and gloom predictions. Part of that is Murdoch broke his promise to tamper with the content of the paper and the other factor was a black man in the white house. They really went nuts.
Well, the news sections is still good.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:09:34pm |
re: #19 Killgore Trout
That is why I was very upset when the Bancroft and Ottaway family sold the paper to him. I am still not happy about the sale.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:10:00pm |
Got to love Fox’s spin
O’Reilly Obama Interview Shows That President Still Hasn’t Changed Course
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darthstar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:10:52pm |
Good news, everyone! Football season is officially over!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:12:39pm |
re: #21 PhillyPretzel
That is why I was very upset when the Bancroft and Ottaway family sold the paper to him. I am still not happy about the sale.
I think it does damage their brand. The Op ed pages are a complete joke. Hopefully the paper will recover it’s image someday. It used to be a very serious paper.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:12:46pm |
re: #24 darthstar
Good news, everyone! Football season is officially over!
Sad part is we probably won’t have much, if any, 2011 season.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:13:34pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:13:37pm |
re: #21 PhillyPretzel
That is why I was very upset when the Bancroft and Ottaway family sold the paper to him. I am still not happy about the sale.
It used to be my go to conservative source. Now it’s not even fit to be fish wrap.
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Linden Arden Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:14:03pm |
S&P 500 up from 660 to 1300 since March 2009, Obama cuts taxes several times, helps out small biz with tax credits, allows accelerated depreciation of one year on capital purchases for the first time, and Fox News assholes ask “Why are you a socialist”?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:14:39pm |
re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Got to love Fox’s spin
O’Reilly Obama Interview Shows That President Still Hasn’t Changed Course
Fox Nation is outraged that he’s not wearing a tie: No Tie?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:15:42pm |
re: #27 wlewisiii
Sad part is we probably won’t have much, if any, 2011 season.
You really think the labor dispute is going to kill the entire season?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:17:31pm |
re: #31 Linden Arden
S&P 500 up from 660 to 1300 since March 2009, Obama cuts taxes several times, helps out small biz with tax credits, allows accelerated depreciation of one year on capital purchases for the first time, and Fox News assholes ask “Why are you a socialist”?
I’ll be furious if the Republicans fuck up the healthcare reform efforts. I but my own private insurance and it’s swamping me. It has almost tripled in the past five years and it’s as much as the rest of my bills combined. It’s insanity.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:19:00pm |
I thought Obama looked good, sounded good, and spoke to the point and with confidence.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:20:49pm |
re: #34 Killgore Trout
I’ll be furious if the Republicans fuck up the healthcare reform efforts. I but my own private insurance and it’s swamping me. It has almost tripled in the past five years and it’s as much as the rest of my bills combined. It’s insanity.
I don’t think of it as “fucking things up”. The bill that passed is bad, it needs to be majorly altered.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:21:10pm |
re: #35 Gus 802
I thought Obama looked good, sounded good, and spoke to the point and with confidence.
I’ll give O’riely a little credit too. He got in his stupid talking points but wasn’t nearly as rude as the last Fox guy who kept interrupting the President and kept trying to give him some condescending lecture.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:21:15pm |
Lowlife crazy people with no life and IQ of 95 are in an uproar about him not wearing a tie.
Film @ 11.
Let us hope that someday that modern medicine and research will find a cure for Wingnuttia Complex.
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Girth Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:21:28pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:22:28pm |
re: #24 darthstar
Good news, everyone! Football season is officially over!
It never ends……. next up…. the combine and the draft.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:23:10pm |
re: #40 Girth
And of course the pic that grab from the video is one such that someone in the comments can say
look at those eyes , this mother f—-er is high on somethimg
No, Bill always kind of looks like that.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:23:21pm |
re: #40 Girth
And of course the pic that grab from the video is one such that someone in the comments can say
look at those eyes , this mother f—-er is high on somethimg
Those assholes stopped the video to get the worst possible still they could find. Now they’re plastering it all over Fox News. Fuck Fox Nation and all of these unpatriotic, un-American assholes that hate Obama.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:23:28pm |
re: #37 Dark_Falcon
I don’t think of it as “fucking things up”. The bill that passed is bad, it needs to be majorly altered.
I haven’t seen much criticism of the bill that I take seriously. Death Panels, Socialism and bogus numbers from the Cato Institute. Meh. I don’t trust the Republicans to add anything of value to healthcare reform. If there are reasonable tweaks they’re going to have to come from the Dems.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:24:19pm |
re: #38 Killgore Trout
I’ll give O’riely a little credit too. He got in his stupid talking points but wasn’t nearly as rude as the last Fox guy who kept interrupting the President and kept trying to give him some condescending lecture.
Saddest part is that bit at the end about being fair - I think O’Reilly really means it because I think, deep down, he really doesn’t get it. Unlike Beck, I pity him.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:25:10pm |
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
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BlarneyStone Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:25:58pm |
re: #26 Killgore Trout
The WSJ op-ed page rushing to “defend” Palin against their own blogger was embarrassing. Palin unsurprisingly got the facts wrong.
Palin:
Mr. Reddy takes aim at this. He writes: “Grocery prices haven’t risen all that significantly, in fact.” Really? That’s odd, because just last Thursday, November 4, I read an article in Mr. Reddy’s own Wall Street Journal titled “Food Sellers Grit Teeth, Raise Prices: Packagers and Supermarkets Pressured to Pass Along Rising Costs, Even as Consumers Pinch Pennies.”
Reddy:
The Nov. 4 Wall Street Journal article noted, in its first sentence, “the tamest year of food pricing in nearly two decades.” It does indeed report that supermarkets and restaurants are facing cost pressures that could push their retail prices higher — but it hasn’t happened yet on a large scale. Critics of the Fed’s quantitative easing policy are focused primarily on concerns about potential future inflation.
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Charleston Chew Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:26:10pm |
Here we have a brief lesson in poise: one man represents the “do”s and one the “don’t”s. And I don’t need to spell out which is which.
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SilentAlfa Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:28:30pm |
re: #37 Dark_Falcon
I don’t think of it as “fucking things up”. The bill that passed is bad, it needs to be majorly altered.
maybe if the republicans were willing to compromise then the bill wouldnt be so bad
if you’re a republican congressman and you’re going to refuse to negotiate in good faith with the other party, then you cant really complain about how bad the bill is when it finally passes
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webevintage Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:31:02pm |
re: #39 Gus 802
Lowlife crazy people with no life and IQ of 95 are in an uproar about him not wearing a tie.
Film @ 11.
Let us hope that someday that modern medicine and research will find a cure for Wingnuttia Complex.
FOXNation is just a cesspool of ugly and hate.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:32:59pm |
re: #37 Dark_Falcon
I don’t think of it as “fucking things up”. The bill that passed is bad, it needs to be majorly altered.
I don’t really believe that the bill was all that bad. That said, the Republican party has refused from day one to negotiate in good faith. Given that, it’s no better than a power plant NIMBY for them to complain when it’s not what they want (as I try to tie various things together ;) )
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Irenicum Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:33:24pm |
I had hoped President Obama was gonna explain to Bill how tides work.
///
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:33:42pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
Geeze, just leave Michelle Obama alone, Fox. If you don’t like what she suggests, don’t serve it.
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Linden Arden Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:33:46pm |
re: #50 SilentAlfa
GOP nothing but liars who pretend
1- selling across state lines
2- tort reform
will fix everything. Which is bullshit.
Aetna, Cigna, Wellpoint, UHC all sell in 50 states anyway and there are tort limits in 29 states.
To pretend that selling Wyoming’s policy will lower costs more than 2% in California is insane.
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Girth Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:33:52pm |
re: #47 BlarneyStone
Mr. Reddy takes aim at this. He writes: “Grocery prices haven’t risen all that significantly, in fact.” Really? That’s odd, because just last Thursday, November 4, I read an article in Mr. Reddy’s own Wall Street Journal titled “Food Sellers Grit Teeth, Raise Prices: Packagers and Supermarkets Pressured to Pass Along Rising Costs, Even as Consumers Pinch Pennies.”
Well, I think we can tell just from the bolded part that she’s lying.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:34:15pm |
re: #52 wlewisiii
I don’t really believe that the bill was all that bad. That said, the Republican party has refused from day one to negotiate in good faith. Given that, it’s no better than a power plant NIMBY for them to complain when it’s not what they want (as I try to tie various things together ;) )
The bill is bad and needs to be replaced—with single payer or universal Medicare.
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Charleston Chew Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:34:16pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
I find a comment from that same article interesting (emphasis mine):
And fried chicken; Kobe Beef; Australian Lobster Tails; BBQ Pork Ribs; Watermelon; Collard greens; ham hocks; fried catfish; and they’ll wash it all down with 40 oz. cans of Schlitz Malt brew and a bottle or two of Mogan David fortified wine…..mmm mmm mmm .. Moochelle “The Wookie” Obama……diet queen of the White House….
According to this person, the black First Family is somehow both too high class and too low class at the same time. What an interesting dissonance hate can breed.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:35:09pm |
re: #57 Decatur Deb
The bill is bad and needs to be replaced—with single payer or universal Medicare.
The day I support that is the day I shrivel up and turn purple.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:36:12pm |
Fox Nation. Home to slack jawed, ignorant, lowlife, low-class, un-American dipshits.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:37:01pm |
re: #59 Dark_Falcon
The day I support that is the day I shrivel up and turn purple.
Purple is a good color for lizards.
[Link: www.arcadja.com…]
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Charleston Chew Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:37:06pm |
re: #53 Irenicum
I had hoped President Obama was gonna explain to Bill how tides work.
///
Would have been a great tie-in to the President’s emphasis on education to give Bill a little “teachable moment” of astrophysics.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:39:46pm |
re: #60 Gus 802
Fox Nation. Home to slack jawed, ignorant, lowlife, low-class, un-American dipshits.
That whole part of the site is a sewer. I never go there.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:40:08pm |
re: #57 Decatur Deb
The bill is bad and needs to be replaced—with single payer or universal Medicare.
Well, yes, that’s true. But there are too many who believe the Big Lie that socialism is evil so I expect to need another generation who are taught Christian ethics for real before we get that.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:40:46pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
That whole part of the site is a sewer. I never go there.
I started reading the comments and had to stop.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:40:47pm |
re: #59 Dark_Falcon
The day I support that is the day I shrivel up and turn purple.
That’s a shame, because it is inevitable. America cannot ignore the fact that single payer healthcare is more efficient, less expensive, and better for not only the health of the populace, but also the economy, forever.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:40:57pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
If she had served raw celery and tahini dip, they’d be bitching about that too.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:41:04pm |
re: #60 Gus 802
I think they’re just people looking for some kind of meaning in a society that is fundamentally hostile to “average” people.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:41:26pm |
re: #67 Renaissance_Man
That’s a shame, because it is inevitable. America cannot ignore the fact that single payer healthcare is more efficient, less expensive, and better for not only the health of the populace, but also the economy, forever.
I disagree.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:41:44pm |
re: #64 Jimmah
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Wow. The intensity of butthurt on display in the comments is something else. Fox’s deliberate encouragement of these fucktards, inviting ever dumber and nastier responses to increasingly idiotic outrages - is plain to see. Disgusting.
Seriously. I’ve never seen so many l-o-s-e-r-s!
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:42:01pm |
re: #70 Dark_Falcon
I disagree.
You think they can ignore that fact forever? That’d be a shame for this great nation.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:42:22pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
That’s the actual headline!
LOL.
I thought it was you poking fun at Fox. They didn’t need you, did they? They managed all on their own. Wow.
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jaunte Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:42:52pm |
re: #58 Charleston Chew
a bottle or two of Mogan David
It always adds to the boomerang effect of the insult when the poster can’t spell.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:43:05pm |
re: #59 Dark_Falcon
The day I support that is the day I shrivel up and turn purple.
DF, you’re a good man. That said, I hope that someday we can sit down over beers and discuss this so that I can have a chance to change your mind.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:43:27pm |
My wife just turbotaxed our returns. Even though I’m disgustingly healthy and she is past the worst of her medical problems, our co-pays and insurance costs were 24% of my retirement income. We have Medicare (me) and Fed insurance, the “Gold-plated” package the congressmen get.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:44:21pm |
re: #75 wlewisiii
DF, you’re a good man. That said, I hope that someday we can sit down over beers and discuss this so that I can have a chance to change your mind.
What are you going to do if he shrivels up and turns purple while you’re both having a beer?
//
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:44:34pm |
re: #76 Decatur Deb
Just be thankful you didn’t go bankrupt from being shot in the head at a minor political event.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:45:33pm |
re: #72 Renaissance_Man
You think they can ignore that fact forever? That’d be a shame for this great nation.
I don’t think its a “fact”.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:46:05pm |
But… but… I didn’t realize I needed getting-shot-in-the-head insurance!
What do you mean I owe you 10,000 dollars?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:46:43pm |
re: #76 Decatur Deb
, our co-pays and insurance costs were 24% of my retirement income.
That is what is wrong with American and what is destroying us economically. The only way to fix it, I honestly believe, is for the government to be the sole insurer of all Americans. AKA single payer.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:48:33pm |
re: #58 Charleston Chew
According to this person, the black First Family is somehow both too high class and too low class at the same time. What an interesting dissonance hate can breed.
Ah, the “Wookie” meme is still around I see. Lovely folks.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:50:15pm |
re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist
If she had served raw celery and tahini dip, they’d be bitching about that too.
Isn’t that tahini stuff Zionist food?
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Jimmah Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:51:05pm |
re: #82 Killgore Trout
Ah, the “Wookie” meme is still around I see. Lovely folks.
And from the same charmer - “Fried chicken” and “watermelon”.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:51:40pm |
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:52:51pm |
re: #83 Decatur Deb
tahini [Link: www.thefreedictionary.com…]
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:53:37pm |
re: #85 Jimmah
And from the same charmer - “Fried chicken” and “watermelon”.
He’s just pissed off because the dry cleaners could get a grass stain out of his Klan robes.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:53:38pm |
re: #79 Dark_Falcon
I don’t think its a “fact”.
Obviously not, yet the facts remain what they are. Virtually every other nation in the First World has demonstrated that some form of universal health care, especially when mixed with private health insurance, serves the populace better as a whole, and simultaneously saves money. The American system is both more expensive and less effective. This state of affairs cannot last forever; people can be convinced to vote against their best interests for only so long. A national pharmacy and some form of universal health care will be the only way to make any sort of meaningful impact on the cost of health care. And it will happen - the only question is how many lives and careers it costs along the way.
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:53:41pm |
re: #58 Charleston Chew
I find a comment from that same article interesting (emphasis mine):
According to this person, the black First Family is somehow both too high class and too low class at the same time. What an interesting dissonance hate can breed.
What.The.Fuck?!?!?
People like that truly have ugly, twisted souls as black as coal…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:54:03pm |
re: #88 Dark_Falcon
He’s just pissed off because the dry cleaners couldn’t get a grass stain out of his Klan robes.
PIMF
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:55:05pm |
re: #81 wlewisiii
That is what is wrong with American and what is destroying us economically. The only way to fix it, I honestly believe, is for the government to be the sole insurer of all Americans. AKA single payer.
Think how many jobs could be created alone if employers didn’t have to pay for health insurance. Think how much money could be saved by removing the entirely wasted extraneous costs of health care. Universal health care is the fiscally responsible choice.
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:55:20pm |
re: #74 jaunte
It always adds to the boomerang effect of the insult when the poster can’t spell.
You just know they would have typed “Mad Dog” or “MD 20/20” if they could have…
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:55:38pm |
re: #89 Renaissance_Man
This state of affairs cannot last forever; people can be convinced to vote against their best interests for only so long.
You’d think so, but the GOP have managed to convince people to vote against their own interests for decades now by focusing on God, gays, and guns.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:56:39pm |
re: #95 Lidane
You’d think so, but the GOP have managed to convince people to vote against their own interests for decades now by focusing on God, gays, and guns.
This is the truth.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:56:42pm |
re: #91 Ojoe
Sorry to hear you’ve not found a new position yet.
For many specialists it does appear to be a jobless recovery. Both the commercial real estate bust along with the still enormous backlog of residential real estate has put quite the crimp in any job associated either of those.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:56:42pm |
Decatur Deb tahini is an ingredient in hummus.
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Ojoe Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:57:11pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
Actually this is really doing something about health.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:58:22pm |
re: #99 PhillyPretzel
Decatur Deb tahini is an ingredient in hummus.
Yeah—I was snarking. I’m probably the only male goy in Alabama with a secret hummus recipe.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:58:53pm |
re: #93 Renaissance_Man
Think how many jobs could be created alone if employers didn’t have to pay for health insurance. Think how much money could be saved by removing the entirely wasted extraneous costs of health care. Universal health care is the fiscally responsible choice.
It would also free a helluva lot of people trapped in plans they can’t afford to spend some of that money on tangible goods and services.
The health outcomes of the American system which spends a third more as a whole than the conglomeration of western democracies of aggregated populations are actually worse. Administration costs - particularly at the private insurers are massively inflated taking money away from patient care which doesn’t happen in the not for profit/social insurance or flat out Govt Run plans world wide.
Jus’ sayin :p
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Ojoe Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:59:02pm |
re: #98 freetoken
I’m driving trucks for the local food bank (day job). (No new buildings to design.)
It’s a close thing at the food bank, there are more people coming & fewer donations. Somehow we make it day by day.
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Timmeh Sun, Feb 6, 2011 7:59:17pm |
President Obama will sit down for an interview with Bill O’Reilly, but you won’t see Palin go on Meet the Press.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:00:11pm |
re: #102 Decatur Deb
Yeah—I was snarking. I’m probably the only male goy in Alabama with a secret hummus recipe.
To me…… bean dip is much tastier. Maybe it was the brand I bought.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:00:33pm |
re: #104 wozzablog
It would also free a helluva lot of people trapped in plans they can’t afford to spend some of that money on tangible goods and services.
What, you mean divert money away from the health insurance industry?
This cannot be tolerated! Send in the lobbyists!
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:01:52pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:02:24pm |
re: #107 Mr Pancakes
To me… bean dip is much tastier. Maybe it was the brand I bought.
Sabra is decent for store-bought, not any of the others we can get here.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:06:09pm |
I’m sorry to see former posters that I liked, going over to the 2.0.
I had thought better of them. Wished for more.
Sucks to see them as a stalker.
Thanks for all the fish.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:06:41pm |
re: #112 Lidane
Heh:
Bill Kristol Slams Conservative ‘Hysteria’ On Egypt, Calls Out Beck’s Delusional ‘Caliphate’ Theory
Stopped clocks etc.
Fair play, I’m glad that someone like Kristol can at least recognize different kinds of crazy.
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Political Atheist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:09:04pm |
re: #114 Floral Giraffe
Hi Floral!
That is a damn shame.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:10:17pm |
re: #116 Rightwingconspirator
Yes, it is.
Hope you are feeling better?
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:12:31pm |
Wozza - did you get anything out of Chelsea-Liverpool?
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:12:46pm |
re: #104 wozzablog
It would also free a helluva lot of people trapped in plans they can’t afford to spend some of that money on tangible goods and services.
The health outcomes of the American system which spends a third more as a whole than the conglomeration of western democracies of aggregated populations are actually worse. Administration costs - particularly at the private insurers are massively inflated taking money away from patient care which doesn’t happen in the not for profit/social insurance or flat out Govt Run plans world wide.
The reality is so apparent that the real question is no longer how to improve the US health care system, but this: what problems exist in the US political system that prevent its government from taking actions that save money and benefit the people and the nation? How has the US political system been allowed to so egregiously fail its constituency?
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jaunte Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:13:52pm |
Anyone following the Raymond Davis story?
Drama in Lahore: US diplomat faces double murder charge
LAHORE:
Two cases, including one for a double murder, have been registered against US diplomats involved in a dramatic shooting and hit-and-run incident, which claimed the lives of three men in Lahore on Thursday.
Latest development:
ISLAMABAD: The government’s reluctance to free Raymond Davis is attributed to the fact that the two killed in the Lahore shooting were believed to be the intelligence operatives.“Yes, they belonged to the security establishment….they found the activities of the American official detrimental to our national security,” disclosed a security official.[Link: tribune.com.pk…]
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:15:31pm |
I am amazed at the Charles haters. AMAZED.
Like, WTF, get a J O B dude.
Yes, if you”re reading this and upset, you need to own this.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:15:35pm |
re: #119 Renaissance_Man
Because people think* that freedom of speech means that anyone can spend as much money as they like to buy votes.
* think = “have been persuaded”
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:15:39pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Also from Fox Nation: Michelle Obama’s Shocking Anti-Obesity Super Bowl Menu
Outrage!
How stupid to you have to be to have a logical disconnect about the difference between the food we eat every day and the food we eat on special occasions?
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:15:57pm |
re: #118 iossarian
Wozza - did you get anything out of Chelsea-Liverpool?
not much to be honest. i’m an Arsenal fan - we only managed to make a point over Chelsea and Man U over the weekend, could’ve been better as we pissed away a 4-0 lead.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:17:03pm |
re: #115 iossarian
Stopped clocks etc.
Fair play, I’m glad that someone like Kristol can at least recognize different kinds of crazy.
More Good News: Rich Lowery of National Review posted a link and agreed with Kristol. And Charles Krauthammer, though more skeptical of the protesters, did write a sensible column whose thrust was one ideas to help Egypt towards democracy. I hope those guys stand tall and refuse to excuse Beck’s mania. It’s time for the sane conservatives to win a round. If some Beck supporters flounce, I say let them flounce.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:17:13pm |
re: #120 jaunte
Anyone following the Raymond Davis story?
Drama in Lahore: US diplomat faces double murder charge
Latest development:
Wow. That’s fucked up. Sounds like a real mess.
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andres Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:18:41pm |
re: #70 Dark_Falcon
I disagree.
Although I’ll be going offline soon, I’d like to hear why you think the current system is better than single payer.
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jaunte Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:18:53pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
Truly.
I just saw it on Twitter, from afpakchannel (Katherine Tiedemann)
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:18:58pm |
re: #119 Renaissance_Man
The reality is so apparent that the real question is no longer how to improve the US health care system, but this: what problems exist in the US political system that prevent its government from taking actions that save money and benefit the people and the nation? How has the US political system been allowed to so egregiously fail its constituency?
I don’t know buddy.
If a working guy with no insurance falls ill and $1000 of meds would get him better and stop him having to retire or go on dissbillity……….the state gains many fold in tax revenue/saves on paying out benefits by keeping him well.
I don’t know how much of a simpler case i can put to the doubters.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:20:21pm |
re: #122 iossarian
Because people think* that freedom of speech means that anyone can spend as much money as they like to buy votes.
* think = “have been persuaded”
That is true, but it can’t be that simple. Money corrupts politics everywhere in the world, yet democratic governments are by and large still able to take action when things are so clearly in the best interests of the nation. There’s something else, something institutional.
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Political Atheist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:20:21pm |
re: #117 Floral Giraffe
Yes I am. The Dragon_Lady and I went up to the new start up company gig, and it went really well. Start ups are always chancy, but lending our skills was really fun and rewarding. Lots to learn too of course.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:20:52pm |
re: #129 wozzablog
I don’t know buddy.
If a working guy with no insurance falls ill and $1000 of meds would get him better and stop him having to retire or go on dissbillity…the state gains many fold in tax revenue/saves on paying out benefits by keeping him well.
I don’t know how much of a simpler case i can put to the doubters.
But if the penniless sod does the patriotic thing, and dies, we save a bundle on Social Security.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:21:17pm |
re: #124 wozzablog
Still in the box seat should Man U slip up further.
I have plenty of Arsenal friends, and am gradually coming round to appreciating Wenger (helped by the fact that they haven’t won anything for a few years now!).
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:21:33pm |
re: #125 Dark_Falcon
More Good News: Rich Lowery of National Review posted a link and agreed with Kristol. And Charles Krauthammer, though more skeptical of the protesters, did write a sensible column whose thrust was one ideas to help Egypt towards democracy. I hope those guys stand tall and refuse to excuse Beck’s mania. It’s time for the sane conservatives to win a round. If some Beck supporters flounce, I say let them flounce.
You’ve mentioned some of the best of conservatives out there. It would be nice if some grownups took more leadership. But it’s hard when the flame throwers catch all the attention of the press.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:21:56pm |
re: #121 Floral Giraffe
I am amazed at the Charles haters. AMAZED.
Like, WTF, get a J O B dude.
Yes, if you”re reading this and upset, you need to own this.
It’s just horrid. That nutcase Rodan even used Charles putting up a Superbowl thread as an excuse to hate. He can’t go even one day with hating.
[flips Stalkers the bird]
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b_sharp Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:22:03pm |
Just a drive by comment folks, I have to get to bed.
I had a good day, the Packers won by beating the Steelers, and Obama won by beating O’Reilly.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:22:23pm |
re: #132 Decatur Deb
But if the penniless sod does the patriotic thing, and dies, we save a bundle on Social Security.
Ding for the overall comment. Would that I could give a further ding for “penniless sod”.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:22:54pm |
re: #132 Decatur Deb
But if the penniless sod does the patriotic thing, and dies, we save a bundle on Social Security.
I yield to the honorable Gentleman from the Tea Party.
Fire Departments are going that way too.
WHEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:25:25pm |
re: #130 Renaissance_Man
I think it’s something of a “tipping point” thing - in the 80s, you could get elected in the US even if you didn’t have stacks of money. Now it’s more or less impossible.
Basically, I think people took their eye off the ball, and now it’s a plutocracy, more or less.
As an optimist, I hope things can go back the other way.
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:26:20pm |
re: #132 Decatur Deb
But if the penniless sod does the patriotic thing, and dies, we save a bundle on Social Security.
See, I don’t know why smokers catch such crap over the costs of their care—they die before they get social security and medicare in greater numbers. Maybe it’s a morbid thought, but don’t they actually reduce costs to these programs?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:26:45pm |
re: #125 Dark_Falcon
More Good News: Rich Lowery of National Review posted a link and agreed with Kristol. And Charles Krauthammer, though more skeptical of the protesters, did write a sensible column whose thrust was one ideas to help Egypt towards democracy. I hope those guys stand tall and refuse to excuse Beck’s mania. It’s time for the sane conservatives to win a round. If some Beck supporters flounce, I say let them flounce.
I’ll upding so far as it goes, but DF, why are we praising these people for simply seeing reality? I’m not fond of Kristol or Krauthammer but I do know neither is pure stupid so they should be fighting Beck.
It’s really sad when you have to congratulate your enemies for not being as stupid as they could be :eek:
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:27:27pm |
re: #133 iossarian
Still in the box seat should Man U slip up further.
I have plenty of Arsenal friends, and am gradually coming round to appreciating Wenger (helped by the fact that they haven’t won anything for a few years now!).
LOL.
There is no one out there who could possibly replace Wenger - when he took over we were 7th and going no where, first full season we won the double.
Arsenal are the lowest spenders in the top 5 of the league, but per million spent we have more league points and better finishes.
Arsenal don’t have the resources to compete with the Man Utd debt mountain or the Billionaire who runs chelsea - so we don’t try to compete on their spending.Our youth development system is much better than both of theirs too.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:28:33pm |
re: #140 BryanS
See, I don’t know why smokers catch such crap over the costs of their care—they die before they get social security and medicare in greater numbers. Maybe it’s a morbid thought, but don’t they actually reduce costs to these programs?
The NHS actually did a study a few years ago into precisely this issue.
I think in the end they decided that the money question was too complicated to figure out if you included everything (lifetime productivity, the cost of depression in your close relatives and so forth).
Overall they still seem to think that we’re better off trying to persuade people not to smoke.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:29:23pm |
re: #140 BryanS
See, I don’t know why smokers catch such crap over the costs of their care—they die before they get social security and medicare in greater numbers. Maybe it’s a morbid thought, but don’t they actually reduce costs to these programs?
Some time ago I dug out a tobacco lobby paper prepared for the Czech government that made exactly that case. They were preparing anti-smoking legislation.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:30:14pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
Our “friend” has whole heartedly joined the stralkerz.
I don’t get it, but there seems to be a plot.’I hope it works out for him.
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dragonfire1981 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:31:07pm |
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”
The TEN most terrifying words in the English language are: “I’m from Fox News and I will treat you fairly.”
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tnguitarist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:32:31pm |
O’Reilly quote:
What is it about the job that’s surprised you the most since you weren’t prepared for it coming in here?
That’s not biased at all!
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:33:01pm |
re: #144 Decatur Deb
Some time ago I dug out a tobacco lobby paper prepared for the Czech government that made exactly that case. They were preparing anti-smoking legislation.
Talk about bad PR—a company extolling the benefits to society of their product by killing off people before they get old!
re: #143 iossarian
Of course there are lots of reasons to encourage people not to smoke. It’s suspiciously convenient the NHS found it too complicated to determine the costs.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:33:17pm |
re: #142 wozzablog
Yeah, I think initially I was put off by the fact that Wenger (rightly or not) built his team without regard for developing English players. To be fair he did well looking outside the system and in any case has recently developed some good “home-grown” players.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:33:19pm |
re: #144 Decatur Deb
Some time ago I dug out a tobacco lobby paper prepared for the Czech government that made exactly that case. They were preparing anti-smoking legislation.
Discussion here: Note link is to a .pdf, might be large.
[Link: www.google.com…]
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:34:20pm |
re: #146 dragonfire1981
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the
governmentRepublicans and I’m here to help.’”
Fixed that for you.
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:34:52pm |
re: #147 tnguitarist
O’Reilly quote:
That’s not biased at all!
I don’t recall that being his phraseology. I thought it was a leading question, but when I heard it, I didn’t think he made the statement “since you weren’t prepared [for the office]”.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:36:06pm |
re: #148 BryanS
Of course there are lots of reasons to encourage people not to smoke. It’s suspiciously convenient the NHS found it too complicated to determine the costs.
Well, I’m too lazy to look into it right now. I think the point was: yes, smokers might cost less by dying young, but there are all these other costs associated with dying young, over and above the costs of smoking, so it’s still a bad idea.
I don’t mind smokers. We all have our weaknesses.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:37:21pm |
re: #145 Floral Giraffe
Our “friend” has whole heartedly joined the stralkerz.
I don’t get it, but there seems to be a plot.’I hope it works out for him.
Oh, hell.
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tnguitarist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:38:04pm |
re: #152 BryanS
I don’t recall that being his phraseology. I thought it was a leading question, but when I heard it, I didn’t think he made the statement “since you weren’t prepared [for the office]”.
Around the 9:30 mark. I typed directly from actually listening to it.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:39:02pm |
re: #149 iossarian
Yeah, I think initially I was put off by the fact that Wenger (rightly or not) built his team without regard for developing English players. To be fair he did well looking outside the system and in any case has recently developed some good “home-grown” players.
When he came into the game young english players were either - fragile, primadonnas or cloggers.
Stepphen Hughes & Francis Jeffers are both examples of people he persisted with and couldn’t make fit into his system.
It’s getting better though - our youth team has always been there or there abouts and when the young english lads have been put in (Justin Hoyte (now departed), Kieran Gibbs, Henri Lansbury and many others over the last five years they have acquited themselves admirably.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:39:37pm |
re: #145 Floral Giraffe
You know, from everything I read about those stalker types, I’m glad I don’t even know where that site is. It just seems like a real negative place to be, and I don’t need that in my life.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:40:19pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
Oh, hell.
Someone was over there as “prebanned” but i don’t know who’s jumped now.
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Irenicum Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:41:05pm |
Hey gang, thanks for putting me over 8000 on the karma! Mucho appreciado! (I’m sure I spelled that wrong, but you get my point)
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:43:20pm |
re: #155 tnguitarist
Around the 9:30 mark. I typed directly from actually listening to it.
I re-listened to the part you cite. He stated :
What is it about the job that’s surprised you the most
sincethat you weren’t prepared for it coming in here?
I think Obama would have commented on the premise of the question if it was stated in the way you made it seem. And the “that” was referring to a surprising element of the job, not intended to describe his preparation for the office.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:43:48pm |
Glee ends with a funny note from Diane Sawyer. Sue gets PWNed as back as Rodan.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:45:20pm |
re: #156 wozzablog
I remember when Jeffers was the next big thing.
Big ears is all he really brought to the table.
I can’t really fault Wenger. Incidentally I just went and confirmed on Wikipedia - the 1998 FA cup final team had an all-English back 5 plus the Razor, and Wright on the bench.
It was after those veterans all retired that the team took a rather French turn.
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:45:31pm |
re: #157 Lidane
You know, from everything I read about those stalker types, I’m glad I don’t even know where that site is. It just seems like a real negative place to be, and I don’t need that in my life.
One of them is literally nothing but a site dedicated entirely to the topic of Charles and this blog. I don’t understand the fixation—seems an unhealthy obsession to me.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:45:42pm |
re: #161 Dark_Falcon
Glee ends with a funny note from Diane Sawyer. Sue gets PWNed as back as Rodan.
i’m not a glee-aholic but this has been through my speakers a couple of dozen times today -
(pokerface)
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tnguitarist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:45:46pm |
re: #160 BryanS
Try again. He said since. Then he gave him a condescending look.
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prairiefire Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:45:49pm |
re: #161 Dark_Falcon
Glee ends with a funny note from Diane Sawyer. Sue gets PWNed as back as Rodan.
I like Glee quite a bit, I just have my 13 year old watch it when the 8 year old is not around as it is pretty sexual.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:46:29pm |
re: #141 wlewisiii
It’s really sad when you have to congratulate your enemies for not being as stupid as they could be :eek:
Seriously. I mean, Kristol is a stopped clock when it comes to Beck and his delusions, but he’s still a hack when it comes to damn near everything else. Pointing out that Beck’s crazy doesn’t suddenly redeem him.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:47:30pm |
re: #162 iossarian
I remember when Jeffers was the next big thing.
Big ears is all he really brought to the table.
I can’t really fault Wenger. Incidentally I just went and confirmed on Wikipedia - the 1998 FA cup final team had an all-English back 5 plus the Razor, and Wright on the bench.
It was after those veterans all retired that the team took a rather French turn.
Viera, Petit, Wiltord and Henry all came into the team while the Old Guard were still there. Bould/Adams/Dixon/Winterburn/Seaman & Keown all played into their mid-thirties and well, Razor (the Romford Pele) is a legend.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:47:34pm |
re: #166 prairiefire
I like Glee quite a bit, I just have my 13 year old watch it when the 8 year old is not around as it is pretty sexual.
Good idea. Glee isn’t for children. It’s well-suited for teenagers, but under 12s shouldn’t be watching it.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:48:09pm |
re: #141 wlewisiii
It’s really sad when you have to congratulate your enemies for not being as stupid as they could be :eek:
Didn’t see this at the time but am now lol-ing.
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Irenicum Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:50:04pm |
The new revised DSM should definitely consider including stalker sites as a new mental illness.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:51:43pm |
re: #168 wozzablog
Razor (the Romford Pele) is a legend.
Never heard that before. Genius. “The White Pele” is usually sung to this tune:
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:53:48pm |
re: #167 Lidane
Seriously. I mean, Kristol is a stopped clock when it comes to Beck and his delusions, but he’s still a hack when it comes to damn near everything else. Pointing out that Beck’s crazy doesn’t suddenly redeem him.
But he is pointing out that reasonable people can disagree on the way forward in Egypt, and that the conservative tradition is to support democracy. His article is a call for conservatives to live up to their ideals and show the GOP as being Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln’s party. It’s a vital call to stand on principle. Beck can’t be allowed to win this one, and honestly, this is a hill the Weekly Standard and Nation Review should be willing to die on. If they lose, then its time for them to truly do a rethink. Whose idea of what it means to be conservative is what’s at stake:
Is it to be that of Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley, or that of Glenn Beck and Pam Geller?
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Kragar Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:55:29pm |
Coptic Christians shoulder to shoulder with Muslims in Tahrir Square
At Sunday Mass in Tahrir Square, thousands of Christians swayed to the sound of hymns blasted from a pair of tired speakers, not far from a makeshift trauma unit used to tend to the injured and count the dead on earlier, more violent days.
Above the faithful, an effigy of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak swung ever so gently in the breeze, dangling from a red noose that has already begun to fray.
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:55:51pm |
re: #165 tnguitarist
Try again. He said since. Then he gave him a condescending look.
Sure enough…I re-re-listened and you are correct :) I still think Bill was referring not to Obama’s preparation for the job, but to the “surprising aspect”. Bill can be an idiot, no doubt (“the tides come and go, but what causes that, nobody knows”). But O’Reilly flatly stating Obama was not prepared to become president doesn’t seem to fit with the tenor of the interview. I don’t think Obama took it that way, or he would have challeneged the premise of the question.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:56:49pm |
re: #173 iossarian
Never heard that before. Genius. “The White Pele” is usually sung to this tune:
[Video]
thats blocked on copyright grounds over here :p
but his ten best goals are here:
(the romford pele monicker is heavily ironic)
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tnguitarist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 8:59:34pm |
re: #176 BryanS
Sure enough…I re-re-listened and you are correct :) I still think Bill was referring not to Obama’s preparation for the job, but to the “surprising aspect”. Bill can be an idiot, no doubt (“the tides come and go, but what causes that, nobody knows”). But O’Reilly flatly stating Obama was not prepared to become president doesn’t seem to fit with the tenor of the interview. I don’t think Obama took it that way, or he would have challeneged the premise of the question.
I think that’s exactly what Bill intended it to sound like. That was the whole knock on him when he was running. I believe the look he gives him after the question conveys his purpose.
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:00:23pm |
re: #174 Dark_Falcon
But he is pointing out that reasonable people can disagree on the way forward in Egypt, and that the conservative tradition is to support democracy. His article is a call for conservatives to live up to their ideals and show the GOP as being Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln’s party. It’s a vital call to stand on principle. Beck can’t be allowed to win this one, and honestly, this is a hill the Weekly Standard and Nation Review should be willing to die on. If they lose, then its time for them to truly do a rethink. Whose idea of what it means to be conservative is what’s at stake:
Is it to be that of Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley, or that of Glenn Beck and Pam Geller?
Agreed. As a conservative, I applaud when I see those on my side take positions like Kristol, Krauthammer, and Lowry have done in criticizing positions of nutjobs like Beck.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:02:31pm |
re: #177 wozzablog
Brilliant.
Number 10: “A rare headed goal for Arsenal. Even rarer for Ray Parlour!”
Marc Overmars - premier gay footballer of the 1990s.
I remember watching some of those goals live. Great Jam soundtrack as well.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:03:57pm |
re: #180 iossarian
Brilliant.
Number 10: “A rare headed goal for Arsenal. Even rarer for Ray Parlour!”
Marc Overmars - premier gay footballer of the 1990s.
I remember watching some of those goals live. Great Jam soundtrack as well.
you have to bear in mind - that is a top ten of what wiki assures me were only 22 goals in 300+ games
:p
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:06:06pm |
I think that LGF’ers giving thought or looks to the 2.0, the borg, or the village of the banned, whatever you want to call it, is feeding the mental illness that is stalking….It goes both ways. Both are directions in illness. Both need help, please seek it.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:07:13pm |
re: #181 wozzablog
Funny thing is, Parlour’s one of those players where he always seemed to be good in games that you watched (as a casual watcher). Must have been incredibly frustrating if you were going to every game.
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tnguitarist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:08:59pm |
re: #182 Floral Giraffe
I think that LGF’ers giving thought or looks to the 2.0, the borg, or the village of the banned, whatever you want to call it, is feeding the mental illness that is stalking…It goes both ways. Both are directions in illness. Both need help, please seek it.
Who bounced?
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:09:34pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:10:36pm |
re: #179 BryanS
Agreed. As a conservative, I applaud when I see those on my side take positions like Kristol, Krauthammer, and Lowry have done in criticizing positions of nutjobs like Beck.
Me too. The difference between Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer on Egypt is one of tactics. The difference between them and Glenn Beck is one of first principles. Kristol’s column honestly did change my mind on the situation: If conservatives are going to hold true to their principles, we have to support movement towards democracy. Liberals do, too. Yes, there is risk, but I now realize that in this case hypocrisy would actually be its own risk and a serious form of failure.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:11:57pm |
re: #183 iossarian
He always put in 100% every game. I was never disappointed in him. He could have scored a few more goals - but in a team with Wright, Kanu, Bergkamp, Overmans, Lgungberg, Pires, Henry (etc etc) the pressure was never on him to contribute goals. He was a solid midfield clogger who did everything without fuss - just got on with it and arsenal now have Alex Song to do a similar job.
We badly miss his physical strength on the wing though. Very badly.
Most frustrating - without question - John Jensen - one goal in his entire arsenal career and i was there to see it in the north bank against QPR.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:12:25pm |
re: #182 Floral Giraffe
I think that LGF’ers giving thought or looks to the 2.0, the borg, or the village of the banned, whatever you want to call it, is feeding the mental illness that is stalking…It goes both ways. Both are directions in illness. Both need help, please seek it.
I’m OK, Floral. It’s just that I have trouble ignoring the haters sometimes. I’m quick defend my honor and that of my friends.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:12:36pm |
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BryanS Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:12:59pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
Me too. The difference between Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer on Egypt is one of tactics. The difference between them and Glenn Beck is one of first principles. Kristol’s column honestly did change my mind on the situation: If conservatives are going to hold true to their principles, we have to support movement towards democracy. Liberals do, too. Yes, there is risk, but I now realize that in this case hypocrisy would actually be its own risk and a serious form of failure.
That was also a GW Bush policy. Obama seems to have come to a similar position, albeit with an understandable tepidness when it comes to our longstanding support of the Mubarak regime.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:13:57pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
If conservatives are going to hold true to their principles, we have to support movement towards democracy. Liberals do, too. Yes, there is risk, but I now realize that in this case hypocrisy would actually be its own risk and a serious form of failure.
Quoted for truth.
This is the most important thing you’ve posted here in awhile, DF. I hope you see why.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:15:01pm |
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
*smooch*
It’s the hard, when folks you thought were friends tun out to be nutwads.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:15:51pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
If conservatives are going to hold true to their principles, we have to support movement towards democracy. Liberals do, too. Yes, there is risk, but I now realize that in this case hypocrisy would actually be its own risk and a serious form of failure.
Can you CC that to the Foundation for the Defence Of Democracies….?…..
;-)
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:16:45pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:17:01pm |
Don’t surround yourself with yourself,
Move on back two squares,
Send an instant karma to me,
Initial it with loving care yourself.
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iossarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:18:52pm |
re: #187 wozzablog
To be fair, it’s a screamer (if copyright allows):
Anyway, off to bed now. Be good, people!
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freetoken Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:19:55pm |
re: #105 Ojoe
Good architects are inherently valuable, even if the market for their services is currently in the tank.
I think many of us in that vast, non-descriptive part of life called “middle age” have found ourselves with plans that have been sidelined.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:20:17pm |
re: #194 iossarian
Thing is, when people get banned, I often* see it as a failure of “us” to maintain some kind of civilized discussion.
* Obviously there are some people who just set out to offend: they can get lost.
Generally people who go off in a humph have been acting like an ass before they get swarmed.re: #196 iossarian
G’night.
Loudest and longest cheer at a football match i’ve ever been to.
Even the ref clapped him.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:20:47pm |
re: #196 iossarian
To be fair, it’s a screamer (if copyright allows):
[Video]Anyway, off to bed now. Be good, people!
G’night.
Loudest and longest cheer at a football match i’ve ever been to.
Even the ref clapped him.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:21:14pm |
re: #198 wozzablog
any chance of a mulligan or that garbled mess being delete?
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:22:48pm |
I hope that the mentally ill posters reading this, reach out for help.
Help is available you just have to ask. Please reach out and get help.
Your life will be much better,
Do it for yourself.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:24:34pm |
re: #191 wlewisiii
Quoted for truth.
This is the most important thing you’ve posted here in awhile, DF. I hope you see why.
Yeah, I see why. My real life really sucked last month and it bled through and left me beaten down. This month is better, and I’m able to relax a little. And since I’m not afraid as much, I’m able to see things I missed before.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:33:26pm |
Good, bad or indifferent?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:33:57pm |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
Yeah, I see why. My real life really sucked last month and it bled through and left me beaten down. This month is better, and I’m able to relax a little. And since I’m not afraid as much, I’m able to see things I missed before.
I hear you. Take care of yourself, ok?
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:41:42pm |
Must Suck, to have Charles living rent free in your head, 24/7.
Have at it, haters. Feel the pain.
I wish you all well.
A pain free life.
Get over your hate.
You know what your name is.
OWN it, Sir.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:43:05pm |
re: #182 Floral Giraffe
I think that LGF’ers giving thought or looks to the 2.0, the borg, or the village of the banned, whatever you want to call it, is feeding the mental illness that is stalking…It goes both ways. Both are directions in illness. Both need help, please seek it.
meh, if you’re gonna flip your shit about what those idiots have to say, they chances are you flipped your shit a long time ago already.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:48:33pm |
re: #207 SpaceJesus
You can flip it for me anytime.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:50:55pm |
re: #205 wlewisiii
I hear you. Take care of yourself, ok?
I will. But now I’m going to head off to bed. Goodnight, all.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:59:20pm |
re: #209 Dark_Falcon
I will. But now I’m going to head off to bed. Goodnight, all.
Good idea :D I’m going off as well so take care all. BBmL ;)
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:59:58pm |
I just got from watching the football game. Has anybody posted the Palin speech from the Reagan Birthday event?
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:00:43pm |
jsut got back
yes there may have been alcohol consumned
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:04:05pm |
Somebody handed her a real speech, written by a professional team. That’s not Team Sarah product.
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:15:20pm |
knock, knock, knock.
is this thing on?
is it working?
I think this thread broke.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:18:33pm |
re: #214 mracb
Sunday nights get pretty quiet, evidently even more so on Super Sunday.
It is, after all, past 1am on the East Coast.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:19:23pm |
Out here in the land of sunshine we’re still going strong… but I’ve been off reading physics textbook reviews (don’t ask why)…
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:24:19pm |
re: #216 freetoken
Out here in the land of sunshine we’re still going strong… but I’ve been off reading physics textbook reviews (don’t ask why)…
Yeh I was out after dark in a t-shirt. I think this weather this weekend has been great. I just hope this isn’t the end of our winter. We only have 9.5” of rain for the season.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:24:36pm |
Fact: at this very moment, I have no idea who won the super bowl. I haven’t looked online, nor turned on the radio.
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:25:10pm |
re: #218 eclectic infidel
Fact: at this very moment, I have no idea who won the super bowl. I haven’t looked online, nor turned on the radio.
do you want to avoid a spoiler?
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:25:54pm |
Some team that wasn’t the 49ers won it so I don’t really care.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:29:47pm |
re: #217 mracb
. We only have 9.5” of rain for the season.
That would be an average year for San Diego rainfall (though there is considerable year to year variance.)
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freetoken Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:30:45pm |
re: #218 eclectic infidel
I don’t know either. I was at the gym during the game, and while some of the TVs had the game on I just don’t watch the TV screens while I’m exercising.
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:34:36pm |
re: #221 freetoken
a good year for us in the east bay is around 23”. We haven’t had many good years in the past 10. last year was a good year.
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:36:21pm |
We’ve had a tenth of an inch in the last 3 weeks and we have no rain in sight. not good for February, our rainiest month of the year.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 10:44:16pm |
re: #58 Charleston Chew
I find a comment from that same article interesting (emphasis mine):
According to this person, the black First Family is somehow both too high class and too low class at the same time. What an interesting dissonance hate can breed.
people really can be just beasts sometimes
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spiderx Mon, Feb 7, 2011 2:20:54am |
i wonder why the mainstream media; CBS Sixty Minutes or one of the news magazine shows, hasn’t done some kind of expose on Fox News and this Fox Nation hate site. A news organization in America is running a site that is probably one of the most partisan websites on the internet, with its sole purpose to attack and delegitimize a President of the United States. And there’s not a peep in the media about it.
The 4th estate is also there to keep the 4th estate in line, not just government.
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Justine Defarge Mon, Feb 7, 2011 5:55:10am |
It was almost shocking to see how dismissive and contemptuous O’Reilly was towards the President. I hope that his viewers got a glimpse of how altogether level-headed and intelligent Mr. Obama’s actual words were.
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William of Orange Mon, Feb 7, 2011 10:17:31am |
If this interview falls off the Youtube-radar, it’s also up on Crooks and liars.
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morrisab Mon, Feb 7, 2011 10:22:41am |
re: #19 Killgore Trout
Their op ed section went off the rails after the election. They started running wild conspiracy theories, bogus information, hysterical doom and gloom predictions. Part of that is Murdoch broke his promise to tamper with the content of the paper and the other factor was a black man in the white house. They really went nuts.
And the quality of the editing really tanked. It used to be that the NYT and the WSJ could be counted on for correct grammar and punctuation, and while it has also gone downhill at the NYT, it became sadly and obviously noticeable at the WSJ, to the point that even front page stories had typos, incorrect grammar and incorrect punctuation. The NYT has not yet approached that (lack of) standard.
I know that sounds like a crazy, small thing but it was such a glaring, and sudden, change that it seemed clear there was more behind it. This is about the time that the headlines for the articles began to have a very sensationalistic spin. Also, not coincidentally, about the time my spouse and I cancelled our 15 year subscription.
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