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Ron Paul Calls Neo-Confederate Loon As Witness at First Hearing on Fed

Slavery apologist testifies on unemployment
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The Republican Party put anti-Federal Reserve wingnut libertarian Ron Paul in charge of overseeing the Federal Reserve, and today, for his first hearing as chairman, he called one of his friends as a witness — neo-Confederate slavery apologist Thomas J. DiLorenzo.

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul, one of the most outspoken opponents of the Federal Reserve, is hosting his first subcommittee hearing Wednesday as chairman of a House subcommittee overseeing the central bank.

The new chairman of the House Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology Subcommittee has called the hearing to examine the impact of the Fed’s policies on job creation and the unemployment rate.

The roster of witnesses called to testify includes Thomas J. DiLorenzo, professor of economics at Loyola University’s Sellinger School of Business …

At one point, when Paul opened up the hearing to questions from committee members, Rep. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.) directly took on DiLorenzo for his membership in the League of the South, an organization that has been designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “neo-Confederate” hate group advocating for Southern secession.

Clay then rattled off a list of some of DiLorenzo’s articles, including “More Lies about the Civil War,” “In Defense of Sedition,” and “The First Dictator-President,” which examines “how Lincoln’s myth has corrupted America.”

“After reviewing your work and the so-called methods you employ, I still cannot understand you being invited to testify today on the unemployment crisis, but I do know that I have no questions for you,” Clay concluded.

DiLorenzo’s historical revisionism was also featured at last year’s CPAC, sponsored by Ron (and Rand) Paul’s Campaign for Liberty.

This is what the Tea Party has brought to American politics.

(Correction: it’s Ron Paul’s subcommittee, not Rand Paul’s. For some reason I have trouble telling them apart.)

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85 comments

1 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:24:16am

Well, we all know the people want bread and circuses.

2 rwdflynavy  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:26:00am

Good job by Rep. Clay in calling him out for his bigotry and idiocy.

3 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:27:54am
“After reviewing your work and the so-called methods you employ, I still cannot understand you being invited to testify today on the unemployment crisis, but I do know that I have no questions for you,” Clay concluded.

ouch

4 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:28:43am

DiLorenzo is another one of these Austrian Economics kooks. It’s just mind-boggling to see people like this influencing the future of the Federal Reserve.

This is going to end very badly.

5 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:28:53am

I actually kinda met Clay back when I was a congressional intern. I was waiting for the other guys in my carpool and he was taking a smoke break. Seemed like a nice guy. In fact if I recall right, I was actually going to be originally assigned to his office but there was some mix up and I got reassigned.

6 iossarian  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:29:43am

To be fair, the School of Business at Loyola (or “Sellinger” as it is generally referred to in MBA internship circles) is extremely highly regarded, particularly for its strength in macroeconomic policy research.

///

7 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:29:53am

re: #3 Killgore Trout

ouch

Nice burn.

8 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:29:57am

Let’s bring back Confederate currency, one of the greatest monetary success stories of the XIXth century!

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:30:44am

re: #1 EmmmieG

However, in ancient Rome, the Senate didn’t make itself the circus.

10 Jamie  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:30:53am

Your first paragraph says it’s Rand Paul who called him to testify—it was actually Ron Paul. This hearing occurred in the House, rather than the Senate.

11 iossarian  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:30:59am

re: #8 ralphieboy

Let’s bring back Confederate currency, one of the greatest monetary success stories of the XIXth century!

Shh! Don’t mention the hyperinflation!

12 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:31:44am

He’s also connected to the Von Mises Institute which has a whole lot of crazies.

13 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:33:18am

re: #6 iossarian

To be fair, the School of Business at Loyola (or “Sellinger” as it is generally referred to in MBA internship circles) is extremely highly regarded, particularly for its strength in macroeconomic policy research.

///

then this guy got his job as professor under affirmative action for kooks.

14 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:34:02am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

He’s also connected to the Von Mises Institute which has a whole lot of crazies.

It’s depressing how many ‘libertarians’ think that Austrian economics is mainstream, and not a discredited, fringe theory of economics.

15 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:34:07am

Wael Ghonim: Negotiation days with Mubarak are over

Wael Ghonim, the Egyptian activist being hailed by many fellow protesters as a hero, had a message Wednesday for his country’s leaders: “If you are true Egyptians, if you are heroic Egyptians, it’s time to step down.”

In an exclusive interview with CNN, Ghonim, who was freed by Egyptian authorities on Monday after 10 days, said it is “no longer the time to negotiate” with the regime of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

“There’s a lot of blood now” that has been spilled, he said. It’s time for people at the highest levels of the government “to apologize to the families” of those killed, he said.

16 Gus  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:34:23am

Can it be any clearer given Rand Paul’s comments regarding the Civil Rights Act last year?

17 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:34:45am

re: #14 Obdicut

It’s depressing how many ‘libertarians’ think that Austrian economics is mainstream, and not a discredited, fringe theory of economics.

Mountains of money have been spent creating that impression.

18 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:35:11am

re: #14 Obdicut

It’s depressing how many ‘libertarians’ think that Austrian economics is mainstream, and not a discredited, fringe theory of economics.

Its only been discreditted because Jewish Bankers are scared of it!
///

19 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:35:35am

re: #14 Obdicut

It’s depressing how many ‘libertarians’ think that Austrian economics is mainstream, and not a discredited, fringe theory of economics.

I read the wiki article on Austrian economics.
Made. No. Sense.

20 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:35:59am

re: #14 Obdicut

It’s depressing how many ‘libertarians’ think that Austrian economics is mainstream, and not a discredited, fringe theory of economics.

What amazes me is that a “libertarian” would be an apologist for an institution (the CSA_ that dedicated itself to preserving slavery. Agree with you about Austrian school economics even if my understanding of economics is not the best.

21 zora  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:36:00am

Ron Paul holds first hearing on Federal Reserve


Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul, one of the most outspoken opponents of the Federal Reserve, is hosting his first subcommittee hearing Wednesday as chairman of a House subcommittee overseeing the central bank.

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com…]

22 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:36:01am

re: #10 Jamie

You’re right! Now corrected.

23 Gus  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:36:40am

re: #22 Charles

You’re right! Now corrected.

Oops. I better correct some Tweets.

24 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:37:55am

re: #22 Charles

Charles changed a post! He is making antoher craven attempt at covering his blatant errors! Stalker blog alert!1!1!11!!!!

25 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:38:06am

re: #4 Charles

DiLorenzo is another one of these Austrian Economics kooks.

So is another witness, Dr. Richard Vedder.

26 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:38:19am

I gotta go pass-out for a while.

Have a great afternoon all!

27 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:38:52am

For some reason I seem to have difficulty telling Ron and Rand apart. Heh.

28 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:39:39am

Don’t forget their cousin, Kruger Rand…

29 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:41:14am

re: #25 wrenchwench

So is another witness, Dr. Richard Vedder.

I just discovered that too. These are the people now in charge of the Federal Reserve - the extreme right wing libertarian school of economics. I’d bet all of these nuts also want a return to the gold standard.

30 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:43:18am

re: #27 Charles

For some reason I seem to have difficulty telling Ron and Rand apart. Heh.

Actually they have the same relationship as Dr. Evil and Mini-me

31 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:43:58am

re: #30 PT Barnum

Actually they have the same relationship as Dr. Evil and Mini-me

Who is Scott then?

32 Gus  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:45:02am

re: #16 Gus 802

Can it be any clearer given Rand Paul’s comments regarding the Civil Rights Act last year?

OK I suppose this deserves some type of correction. I’m still thinking of apples not falling far from the tree however. Did Ron Paul ever return white supremacist Don Black’s contribution to his campaign?

33 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:45:35am

re: #30 PT Barnum

Actually they have the same relationship as Dr. Evil and Mini-me

Well if this means we get to hear Rand and Ron sing a duet of Just The Two of Us or A Hard Knock Life by Will Smith and Jay Z respectively, I’ll be happy. I’d love to see them rap.

34 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:45:59am

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who is Scott then?

That would be Paul Ryan.

35 Gus  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:46:14am

Back later. Hold the fort!

36 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:47:50am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Well if this means we get to hear Rand and Ron sing a duet of Just The Two of Us or A Hard Knock Life by Will Smith and Jay Z respectively, I’ll be happy. I’d love to see them rap.

I’m thinking they’ll end up singing the duet from Young Frankenstein (Puttin on the Ritz)

Ron: singing..”Go where fashion sits” (points to Rand)
Rand: “puhhin o’ uh Riiiiutt!”

37 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:48:46am

re: #19 Varek Raith

Their premise and their conclusion have nothing to do with each other.

Premise: Modeling economic behavior is very difficult.

True, within bounds.

Conclusion: Therefore, the government should be laissez-faire.

Wait, what? Why?

38 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:51:12am

re: #29 Charles

I just discovered that too. These are the people now in charge of the Federal Reserve - the extreme right wing libertarian school of economics. I’d bet all of these nuts also want a return to the gold standard.

Gee, where could the Von Mises loons find an academic home? Could it be Auburn? Look for the Ayn Rand lawn ornaments.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

39 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:53:04am

re: #36 PT Barnum

I’m thinking they’ll end up singing the duet from Young Frankenstein (Puttin on the Ritz)

Ron: singing..”Go where fashion sits” (points to Rand)
Rand: “puhhin o’ uh Riiiutt!”

SUPAH DUPAH!

40 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:54:22am

re: #37 Obdicut

Their premise and their conclusion have nothing to do with each other.

Premise: Modeling economic behavior is very difficult.

True, within bounds.

Conclusion: Therefore, the government should be laissez-faire.

Wait, what? Why?

Macroeconomics! Who knows how it works?

Perfect for those with Bill O’Reilly’s world view.

41 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:58:23am

re: #37 Obdicut

Their premise and their conclusion have nothing to do with each other.

Premise: Modeling economic behavior is very difficult.

True, within bounds.

Conclusion: Therefore, the government should be laissez-faire.

Wait, what? Why?

The bolded portion is both the premise and the conclusion. Austrian economics isn’t a field of study. It’s a set of axioms and a priori assumptions. It only makes sense if you force yourself not to consider that the purpose of an economic system is to create and distribute goods and services for the betterment of the majority of humanity.

42 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:59:15am

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Gee, where could the Von Mises loons find an academic home? Could it be Auburn? Look for the Ayn Rand lawn ornaments.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Oh, Gee, again—Koch family money involvement:

(Wiki)
The Ludwig von Mises Institute was established in 1982 under the direction of Margit von Mises, widow of Ludwig von Mises, who chaired its board until her death in 1993. Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr is the founder, a former president and currently the chairman (since 2009); Douglas French is the current president. The late economist Murray Rothbard was a major influence on the Institute’s activities and served as its academic vice president until his death in 1995. Among others, Friedrich von Hayek, Lawrence Fertig, and Henry Hazlitt also assisted in both its construction and continued scholarly development.[10]

Some controversy surrounds its creation and the Koch Family Foundations throughout the 1980s.[11] The ensuing ideology-driven drama created a rift between the Mises Institute and organizations like the Cato Institute, whose members had been staunch allies throughout the 1970s and early 1980s.[12]

Taking a break.

43 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:00:37pm

re: #37 Obdicut

Their premise and their conclusion have nothing to do with each other.

Premise: Modeling economic behavior is very difficult.

True, within bounds.

Conclusion: Therefore, the government should be laissez-faire.

Wait, what? Why?

That sounds suspiciously like “modeling biological behavior is very difficult - therefore creationism!”

44 BishopX  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:02:41pm

re: #43 oaktree

Irreducible complexity!

/

45 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:02:51pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Oh, Gee, again—Koch family money involvement:

The Kochtopus strikes again!

46 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:03:58pm

re: #44 BishopX

Irreducible complexity!

/

hehehehe. Applying a term like that to economics systems is actually quite hilarious.

47 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:04:05pm

re: #40 PT Barnum

Macroeconomics! Who knows how it works?

Perfect for those with Bill O’Reilly’s world view.

Money goes in, money goes out.

48 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:05:04pm

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Money goes in, money goes out.

Money goes in, and gets shaken all about.

49 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:06:01pm

re: #48 oaktree

Money goes in, and gets shaken all about.

Hokey Pokey Anonymous: Where you can turn yourself around.

50 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:06:40pm

Egyptian protesters march on parliament

In Cairo, protesters marched on parliament in defiance of a televised plea from vice-president Omar Suleiman, who warned that they risked provoking a situation in which a coup d’etat was possible.

His statement was dismissed by many of the protesters and denounced as a threat by one of the most powerful of opposition groups, the Muslim Brotherhood.

“This amounts to a threat that is unacceptable in the eyes of the Egyptian people,” Mohammed Mursi, a spokesman for the Islamist group, said.

“The protesters have imposed a new legitimacy, and this legitimacy should be respected, for it cannot be threatened.”

An army general who ordered the protesters outside parliament to disperse and go back to Tahrir Square was met by chants of “we are not leaving, he is leaving”.

The frustrated general eventually asked his troops to block off the main road from the south into central Cairo which runs by the parliament.

The demonstrators have set up tents and barricades and say they will not leave until Mr Mubarak leaves office.

51 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:08:31pm

re: #46 oaktree

hehehehe. Applying a term like that to economics systems is actually quite hilarious.

It’s sort of the go-to meme for republicans when dealing with anything that has been rigorously studied, and about which academia has come to a consensus which isn’t consistent with republican goals.

Just make up some bullshit, then, when the academic establishment calls you ca crackpot, create a “think tank”, hire “scholars”, and churn out gobbledygook that means nothing, but convinces stupid people there is a controversy. This approach didn’t start with evolution in American politics, it started with economics.

It has been incredibly successful. Huge numbers of Americans believe things about economics that are provably false, including most democrats.

52 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:12:04pm

re: #51 Fozzie Bear


It is aided by the fact that most people are no longer taught the basics of how theories are developed and formed, be they in science, economics, history, or social/cultural sciences.

It is further aided by the fact that most people are only superficially (if at all) educated in science, economics, history or social/cultural sciences.

53 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:13:00pm

OT, but must see!

ianinegypt Ian Lee
RT @jonjensen: Four young blonde girls call for Mubarak’s ouster

#Tahrir #Egypt
54 William of Orange  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:13:30pm

In Egyptian news:
-
Important! The Wael Ghonim interview on Dream2 Television Channel, with English subtitles.

Youtube also has an English subtitled version of this interview online. Simply press the CC button on the bottom of the screen.

could you please repost them in a new subject so everyone understands the message that is said.

Part one:


Part two:

Part three:

This part will break your heart. Very emotional stuff. This guy is just a humble lad with some computer skills, thrust into an event that was bigger than him. They tried to break him. And in this interview he does, but I really think it made him come out even stronger. This is the leader you’re looking for.

55 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:23:56pm
56 BishopX  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:25:27pm

re: #46 oaktree

I call it the lazy student argument. When I was in my second year of my mechanical engineering degree, I had an assignment where I needed to write a model of the behavior of someone swinging on a swing (for those of you that care, it’s basically a fancy double pendulum with a forcing function) and present it to the class. Sometime around 3am the night before presentation I came around to the idea that since swinging was easy and the math describing it was hard, the math had to be wrong. Because I was sure my math was the best way of modeling it, that meant that the entire mathematical system had to be wrong and that I should simply write a new one not based on rational numbers. That thought was good for a laugh and a trip to the vending machines before I junked my code and started over.

A couple of month later I opened the New York Times and realized that some people don’t stop at the vending machines, they walk out of the building convinced that their education is done and they need to enlighten the world about how things really work. And that’s how I lost my faith in humanity.

57 S'latch  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:25:29pm

Is it true that Dennis Kucinich introduced “End the Fed” legislation? (See, HR6550 “NEED Act”).

If so, there is a strange and unsettling far-left, far-right convergence here.

58 BishopX  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:26:57pm

Speaking of Egypt, I loled at this Tweet:

In tahrir, a bathroom is currently being built :) #jan25

What have they been doing?

59 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:28:01pm

re: #58 BishopX

I think the Egyptian Government may have lost control of the situation. They are now doing complicated construction in the square.

60 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:29:26pm

re: #59 ProLifeLiberal

I think the Egyptian Government may have lost control of the situation. They are now doing complicated construction in the square.

At one tweeter said, it they really want to disperse the crowd, they shoud hire the Black Eyed Peas to come in and perform.

61 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:30:13pm

re: #58 BishopX

Speaking of Egypt, I loled at this Tweet:

What have they been doing?

Setting up a language school.

BreakingNews Breaking News
Egyptian sets up language school in Tahrir Square - @LaurenBohn [Link: twitpic.com…]

62 simoom  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:31:26pm

Some amazing photos of life in Pakistan over at the Boston Globe’s “Big Picture”:
[Link: www.boston.com…]

63 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:31:29pm

re: #57 Lawrence Schmerel

Is it true that Dennis Kucinich introduced “End the Fed” legislation? (See, HR6550 “NEED Act”).

If so, there is a strange and unsettling far-left, far-right convergence here.

I think wingnuts and moonbats alike just want a reboot. Wipe it all away, and start over. They think the system is too fucked to repair.

I can sympathize with that, really. It might just be FUBAR.

64 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:31:52pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

They seem to be busy. Though that does seem to be an undertaking.

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lol. On the other hand, the protesters want a bigger crowd, bring in Bon Jovi.

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:32:27pm

re: #59 ProLifeLiberal

I think the Egyptian Government may have lost control of the situation. They are now doing complicated construction in the square.

Well, there ain’t much point overthrowing the government if everyone catches cholera or something while they’re doing it.

These guys are settling in.

66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:36:28pm
67 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:39:18pm

re: #58 BishopX

Speaking of Egypt, I loled at this Tweet:


What have they been doing?

Maybe they’re building a pyramid for Mubarak.

68 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:39:56pm
69 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:42:23pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Must be a far left communist socialist econut plot. /

70 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:42:59pm

LOL, Craigslist Congressman busted

Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe

[Link: gawker.com…]

71 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:44:12pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

LOL, Craigslist Congressman busted

Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe

[Link: gawker.com…]

Family values :)

72 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:44:31pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

LOL, Craigslist Congressman busted

Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe

[Link: gawker.com…]

When will they scream about this guy being a threat to traditional marriage by seeking to have an affair?

*crickets*

That’s what I thought…

//

73 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:45:07pm
74 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:45:35pm

re: #72 Dreggas

When will they scream about this guy being a threat to traditional marriage by seeking to have an affair?

*crickets*

That’s what I thought…

//

When he becomes pregnant of course.
//

75 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:47:12pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

LOL, Craigslist Congressman busted

Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe

[Link: gawker.com…]

Family Values are so important that you should start 2 or 3 families if you can get away with it.

76 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:50:55pm

re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Family Values are so important that you should start 2 or 3 families if you can get away with it.

Speaking of, I got Uncle Kracker tickets last night - Viejas! heh!

77 Kragar  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:52:39pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

Speaking of, I got Uncle Kracker tickets last night - Viejas! heh!

The real question…who are you going with?

78 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:59:07pm

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The real question…who are you going with?

ha, GF.

79 freetoken  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 1:05:48pm

The video of Paul’s subcommittee hearing can be found here:

[Link: financialserv.edgeboss.net…]

80 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 1:07:31pm

These are a fascinating and sometimes scary bunch of people. I went to a Tea Parry meeting awhile back and they had a local sheriff there talking about gun laws and self defense issues.

At one point someone asked him whether or not it was legal to put IEDs or other booby traps on your property to keep out trespassers in situation where police were not available. The sheriff admitted he wasn’t sure.

Can you imagine someone doing that and accidentally taking out a mailman or one of his neighbors kids or something?

Needless to say I would not want to live anywhere near that guy.

81 freetoken  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 2:08:17pm

DiLorenzo’s opening statement starts at around 29:00 in that video. The others follow.

82 theheat  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 4:55:41pm

re: #29 Charles

One of the ways secessionists (who are usually a nice melting pot of neo-confederate babyklukker pro militia fundies) try to dodge contractual obligations like mortgages and auto loans is bringing the gold standard language into their pleadings. They don’t recognize promissory notes, they claim to be slaves, they challenge the validity of the dollar, they’ll trade liened property between themselves for “one piece of silver” and all kinds of crazy shit.

There are entire forums (usually private) dedicated to discussing how their crazyspeak pleadings delay foreclosures and repossessions, complete with faux attorneys (often disbarred real attorneys or “activists”) that offer to draw up their documents for a fee.

These people love Ron Paul. And these are the people Mr. Heat faces on a regular basis. Yes, they are scary. They’re batshit fucking nuts and they have a rage boner for anyone who injects reality into their lives.

83 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 9, 2011 5:40:26pm

re: #82 theheat

One of the ways secessionists (who are usually a nice melting pot of neo-confederate babyklukker pro militia fundies) try to dodge contractual obligations like mortgages and auto loans is bringing the gold standard language into their pleadings. They don’t recognize promissory notes, they claim to be slaves, they challenge the validity of the dollar, they’ll trade liened property between themselves for “one piece of silver” and all kinds of crazy shit.

This is how crackheads act!

84 Nemesis6  Thu, Feb 10, 2011 6:04:02am

Every single time I hear a Paulian talk, it involves either “keynesianism” or the Austrian economics thing, sprinkle in some “end the fed” and some links to info wars, and you have some good copypasta for youtube videos.

85 Meitantei  Thu, Feb 10, 2011 6:34:31am

re: #70 Stanley Sea

He should resign. Not because of immorality, but if you’re stupid enough to not cover your face or to attempt to hide yourself so that anyone with the Internet can realize that a Congressman is doing this stuff, you don’t deserve to be running this country.


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Wisconsin Supreme Court to Rule Thursday on Union Law, Voter ID
The Wisconsin Supreme Court Thursday is expected to issue three historic rulings affecting union bargaining, election law and same-sex couples. Set for release this morning are long-awaited opinions on whether Gov. Scott Walker's labor law is constitutional, whether voters ...

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Rightwingconspirator
The Stark Beauty Of The Flaw In the Gem. Literally.
It's late, I'm beat and just signed off from a good discussion in Obdi's Page tonight. But I ran across this after signing out and had to share it. I found a kindred style of photography from a part of ...

18 hours, 28 minutes ago
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CriticalDragon1177
Skepchick - Food is for White Liberals What Sex Is For The Religious Right
An interesting commentary by Julia Burke, on the obsession some people on the far left have with food, and how it is similar to how some people on right feel about sex. Do you agree? Do you think the analogy ...

1 day, 2 hours ago
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EiMitch
Cracked: 5 Reasons The Classic American Summer is Totally Dead
They could've called this article "Look at how 'supply-side' economics, anti-environmentalism, and all-around pro-oligarch legislation and ideology has destroyed some of the most iconic, classic Americana." cracked.com Oh, and gentrification-based laws are also robbing us of the classic ice-cream truck ...

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_RememberTonyC
Qatar, Bergdahl, and Hamas
One thing we have learned in the current conflict is that Hamas has three main sponsors: Turkey, Iran, and Qatar. So when Bergdahl was released and the five taliban bigs were released into the "custody" of Qatar, we basically handed ...

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Outside Money Drives a Deluge of Political Ads
WASHINGTON -- An explosion of spending on political advertising on television -- set to break $2 billion in congressional races, with overall spots up nearly 70 percent since the 2010 midterm election -- is accelerating the rise of moneyed ...

3 days, 6 hours ago
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Romantic Heretic
Preventing Poverty Not Allowed As A Goal for Charity
The Canada Revenue Agency (Canada's equivalent of the IRS) has told OXFAM Canada that it cannot list 'preventing poverty' as a goal, only 'alleviating' it. The reason is "Relieving poverty is charitable, but preventing it is not." This is just ...

6 days, 3 hours ago
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FemNaziBitch
Safer Era Tests Wisdom of ‘Broken Windows’ Focus on Minor Crime
While the apparent chokehold fueled much of the initial public outcry, community leaders have begun asking whether focusing police officers so intently on such petty offenses makes sense in a city that is far different and far safer than ...

6 days, 10 hours ago
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Mentis Fugit
Frisson
Over at the quirky Riddled blog, I encountered this music video link. I have the album, but I had last listened long ago, and I had forgotten the lyrics. The lengthy, moody intro slowly drew me back thirty five years, ...

1 week, 1 day ago
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BadExampleMan
The painful futility of war
This makes me furious. These men pledged their loyalty to their country and their country betrayed them. It treated them as disposable, throwing their lives away in a war that was premised on lies, that was chosen gleefully, and that ...

1 week, 3 days ago
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 Frank says:

You think our music- the Monkees music is banal and insipid?" -- Frank replying to Mike Nesmith on an episode of "The Monkees" on which Frank and Mike pretended to be each other for several minutes before the opening theme.