Tonight’s insanity break: the classic tale of Oedipus, starring a Potato, and featuring a Tomato, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Garlic, and Billy Dee Williams as the Bartender. Directed by Jason Wishnow.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:35:34pm |
It's a wee bit tricky, considering that potatoes have exactly one parent, (they sprout from a bit of an old potato that was stuck in the ground.)
On the other hand, the same actor has played more than one role before.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:36:33pm |
a story featuring incest and veggies. Sounds like some sort of really bad prono.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:38:27pm |
re: #2 Dark_Falcon
a story featuring incest and veggies. Sounds like some sort of really bad prono.
//
Hey, a potato "parent" DIES to give birth to dozens of plants which will have dozens of potatoes.
That's some pretty impressive parenting.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:39:43pm |
I mean, I get cranky if I get woken up from a nap.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:40:39pm |
Ooh. Muse is playing on the Grammy Awards. This is awesome. :D
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:40:53pm |
Oedipus, with Vegetables
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Stay mature, Varek.
Stay mature...
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Dammit!
Lol
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:51:48pm |
did anyone see the "anarchist rock" number at the Grammys? What breathtaking bullshit. People who are all about making money, doing an "anarchist" number.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:53:50pm |
re: #7 Alouette
did anyone see the "anarchist rock" number at the Grammys? What breathtaking bullshit. People who are all about making money, doing an "anarchist" number.
The song was written about the G20 protests. That's why it was staged the way it was.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:54:12pm |
re: #5 Lidane
Ooh. Muse is playing on the Grammy Awards. This is awesome. :D
I just don't get the cognitive dissonance of the anarchist thing.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:55:39pm |
re: #8 Lidane
The song was written about the G20 protests. That's why it was staged the way it was.
Still lame. Those protesters are just a bunch of lefty posers.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:56:34pm |
re: #9 Alouette
I just don't get the cognitive dissonance of the anarchist thing.
It's not cognitive dissonance. The song was written from the point of view of the G20 protesters because the band were caught in the middle of it while on tour.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:57:34pm |
re: #10 Dark_Falcon
Still lame. Those protesters are just a bunch of lefty posers.
Eh. I like the song. I like the album. I think they're a great band, and it was a good performance. I don't get caught up in whether or not I agree with the anarchists that protested at G20.
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jaunte Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:58:27pm |
That's a big production for 8 minutes:
It took two years, a volunteer crew of more than 100 people, and post production resources donated by Industrial Light + Magic and Skywalker Sound. One of the first stop-motion films shot on a digital still camera. Official Selection: 70+ film festivals on nearly every continent, including Sundance, Seattle, São Paulo, Rome, and Hong Kong.[Link: www.wishnow.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:59:28pm |
re: #11 Lidane
It's not cognitive dissonance. The song was written from the point of view of the G20 protesters because the band were caught in the middle of it while on tour.
I'm not impressed by these gangs of anarchists who have the money and the time to attend globalist conventions in luxury resort towns. Normal working people can't afford to do that. So who is paying for all their plane tickets and hotel accommodations to "protest" the "rich"?
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:01:15pm |
re: #14 Alouette
Like I said above-- I don't give a shit about the protesters. To me, that's not the point. It's just the context of what the song Muse played is about. That's it.
In general, I think it's a good protest song. I'm also biased, since I'm a Muse fan. The rest is details, IMO.
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BishopX Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:07:59pm |
re: #14 Alouette
You can set a lot of money aside when you a)have a non-minimum wage job b) don't have dependents c)don't invest in the latest and greatest tech and d)avoid recreational spending like the movies/starbucks/alcohol. You can also get a lot more bang for your buck when traveling when you a)sleep on someones floor rather than a mote b)know about the trip a year in advance and c)only bring 1 change of clothes.
Sufficient dedication can get you far.
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:10:25pm |
Check out this website tracking the protests (attempts at, safe being to them) in Iran
[Link: www.enduringamerica.com...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:15:12pm |
re: #16 BishopX
You can set a lot of money aside when you a)have a non-minimum wage job b) don't have dependents c)don't invest in the latest and greatest tech and d)avoid recreational spending like the movies/starbucks/alcohol. You can also get a lot more bang for your buck when traveling when you a)sleep on someones floor rather than a mote b)know about the trip a year in advance and c)only bring 1 change of clothes.
Sufficient dedication can get you far.
Minimum wages only pays for rent, utilities, food, clothes, etc.
Someone else would have to be paying for your day-to-day expenses for you to save enough to fly to another country.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:15:55pm |
re: #15 Lidane
Like I said above-- I don't give a shit about the protesters. To me, that's not the point. It's just the context of what the song Muse played is about. That's it.
In general, I think it's a good protest song. I'm also biased, since I'm a Muse fan. The rest is details, IMO.
Well, Muse just won "Best Rock Album of the Year", so that's something for you.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:16:09pm |
re: #18 EmmmieG
Minimum wages only pays for rent, utilities, food, clothes, etc.
Someone else would have to be paying for your day-to-day expenses for you to save enough to fly to another country.
That's why his first point was having a non-minimum wage job.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:17:14pm |
re: #20 Lidane
That's why his first point was having a non-minimum wage job.
Oops. Misread. Still, if you have a non-minimum wage, aren't you part of the global economy?
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:17:56pm |
re: #19 Dark_Falcon
Heh. That's cool. I stopped watching the Grammy Awards. I only tuned in to see what was going on and happened to stumble on Muse playing. Besides, I think I missed Lady GaGa hatching from her egg, so why bother with the rest of the show? ;)
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:18:08pm |
re: #18 EmmmieG
Minimum wages only pays for rent, utilities, food, clothes, etc.
Someone else would have to be paying for your day-to-day expenses for you to save enough to fly to another country.
Fundraising.
And people that chose to live together to share expenses, which isn't uncommon.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:18:25pm |
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:18:54pm |
re: #21 EmmmieG
Oops. Misread. Still, if you have a non-minimum wage, aren't you part of the global economy?
Sure. But not to the same degree as a CEO making hundreds of times what you earn in a year.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:20:18pm |
re: #23 Jadespring
Fundraising.
And people that chose to live together to share expenses, which isn't uncommon.
"Hi, would you like to buy some of my anarchy cookies? Not sure what they're like, because I can't check out the cookbook without the feds tracking my library card."
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:20:22pm |
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:23:17pm |
I noticed that a lot of our Google search hits were coming from their image search pages, so the new search requests feature of our referrers page now has popup images for any Google image searches.
It's interesting to see which images people find through Google.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:32:14pm |
Oh god Bob Dylan. At least I can tell its Maggie's Farm so there's that.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:33:03pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:35:56pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
Looks like a bullfrog.
Posted before I read the article. It's a bullfrog. They are notorious eaters of smaller frogs. For a time, Killgore was worried about one of them snacking on his frogs.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:39:59pm |
The cauliflower made great sheep!
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:41:44pm |
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:43:47pm |
OK. So I had to go and buy that Mumford & Sons album. Those guys are really good.
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:47:18pm |
re: #36 Lidane
OK. So I had to go and buy that Mumford & Sons album. Those guys are really good.
They were great.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:48:15pm |
re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Jeremiah has fallen on hard times.
Big bullfrog: Jeremiah? I eated him. [burp]
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Political Atheist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:50:47pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
And he always had some mighty fine wine
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:52:15pm |
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:53:21pm |
Somewhere inside this old man lurks an 18 year old girl. I watched the inteview with Lady Gaga tonight on 60 minutes. I watched her hatch on the Grammys. I think she is awesome.
Sexy
Talented
Smart, smart, smart
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:54:24pm |
OK, the frog-eat-frog page had a link to this story:
Shame of Britain's Muslim schools: Secret filming shows pupils being beaten and 'taught Hindus drink cow p***'
t is an assembly hall of the sort found in any ordinary school. Boys aged 11 and upwards sit cross-legged on the floor in straight rows. They face the front of the room and listen carefully. But this is no ordinary assembly. Holding the children’s attention is a man in Islamic dress wearing a skullcap and stroking his long dark beard as he talks.
‘You’re not like the non-Muslims out there,’ the teacher says, gesturing towards the window. ‘All that evil you see in the streets, people not wearing the hijab properly, people smoking . . . you should hate it, you should hate walking down that street.’
He refers to the ‘non-Muslims’ as the ‘Kuffar’, an often derogatory term that means disbeliever or infidel.
Welcome to one of Britain’s most influential Islamic faith schools, one of at least 2,000 such schools in Britain, some full-time, others part-time. They represent a growing, parallel education system.
The school is the Darul Uloom Islamic High School in Birmingham, an oversubscribed independent secondary school. Darul Ulooms are world-renowned Islamic institutions and their aim is to produce the next generation of Muslim leaders. In fact, these schools have been described as the ‘Etons of Islam’.
This school is required by its inspectors to teach tolerance and respect for other faiths. But the Channel 4 current affairs programme Dispatches filmed secretly inside it – and instead discovered that Muslim children are being taught religious apartheid and social segregation.
Nasty stuff.
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 6:59:13pm |
Oops, I may have to do it but I failed in execution.
One more time Oedipus Rex
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:00:16pm |
OK, what I'm trying to link to is a YouTube of Tom Lehrer's Oedipus Rex. For some reason I can't do it.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:00:26pm |
re: #43 Dark_Falcon
Very ugly and probably true. Bummer.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:05:05pm |
re: #46 calochortus
OK, what I'm trying to link to is a YouTube of Tom Lehrer's Oedipus Rex. For some reason I can't do it.
Just copy and paste the URL
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:06:02pm |
re: #47 Killgore Trout
Very ugly and probably true. Bummer.
It's surveillance footage, not a 'sting'. It its properly authenticated, then those schools need to be taken over by the government and reformed.
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:06:58pm |
Okey Dokey:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScdJURKGWM
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:07:48pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
Hate speech has no place in anyone's education.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:08:30pm |
This story is about two good friends of mine.
Very sad and really uplifting.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:08:52pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:09:13pm |
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:10:25pm |
re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yes, exactly like that. How did you do it?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:10:52pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
It's surveillance footage, not a 'sting'. It its properly authenticated, then those schools need to be taken over by the government and reformed.
SAdly there are no credible voices left to raise the alarm. It's nice that the MSM is covering it but all the bloggers have sided with the EDL and Geert Wilders.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:11:33pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:12:03pm |
The Paulification of the GOP continues....
GOP rep: I made a 'terrible mistake' in last year's Patriot Act vote
A California Republican said Friday that he made a "terrible mistake" in previously voting to extend provisions of the Patriot Act that allow the government to hack into e-mail and bank accounts without a search warrant.Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) said on Fox Business Network that it is the reason why the Patriot Act "is so dangerous."
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angel Graham Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:12:12pm |
re: #46 calochortus
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:13:09pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
Again shows the difference between the communities in the UK, and the communities in the US. I've gotten flack from a few of my friends (Christian, Muslim, and Atheist) for saying that a person who goes over to Britain and meets with British Muslim groups should be put on a watch list. Too many British Muslims are radical.
I hope I don't look bizarre for saying this.
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:13:51pm |
re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I did, it didn't post. Sometimes I hate being computer-challenged...
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:13:52pm |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This story is about two good friends of mine.
Very sad and really uplifting.
wow. best wishes to them.
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:16:18pm |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes, all the best to them.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:17:30pm |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This story is about two good friends of mine.
Very sad and really uplifting.
TBI is nasty. I hope he recovers.
TBI = Traumatic Brain Injury.
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blueraven Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:20:31pm |
re: #61 calochortus
I did, it didn't post. Sometimes I hate being computer-challenged...
Copy the URL from your browser address bar on the youtube page...not from the embed.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:21:58pm |
I'd rather have my toenails ripped out than have to watch the Grammy's....another insider industry group fuck...the fact that this shit is even legal proves America is doomed....it's not about music, it's about some sort of monetary gratification
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:22:16pm |
re: #65 blueraven
Well, I thought I had done that, but perhaps my fingers weren't doing what I thought they were. It has been known to happen.
Thanks.
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calochortus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:22:55pm |
re: #66 albusteve
There's an easy way to deal with that. Don't watch. It's what I do.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:25:06pm |
re: #66 albusteve
Apparently, Bob Dylan performed tonight. Haven't found a video for it yet, but they were pimping his performance when I watched earlier.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:25:49pm |
Also, I finally saw Gaga hatch from her egg. Meh.
Maybe it's because the song sounds so much like Madonna's "Express Yourself" that I wasn't impressed. Ah well.
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:26:10pm |
I need to get a horse so I can justify wearing a cowboy hat.
Just thought everyone should know this. :)
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:27:18pm |
re: #69 Lidane
Apparently, Bob Dylan performed tonight. Haven't found a video for it yet, but they were pimping his performance when I watched earlier.
It was not pretty. No worse than the two times I saw him in person but just once again reminds me that I was born too late to see my favorite musician perform live.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:28:31pm |
re: #68 calochortus
There's an easy way to deal with that. Don't watch. It's what I do.
a major reason why the quality of pop music has sunk so low...a couple of generations now of people who have swilled on that slop have perverted the music beyond recognition...why even call it music when most of it is theatrical noise making?....the Grammy Noise Awards....haha!....HONK!
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:30:29pm |
acarvin Andy Carvin
Video allegedly showing someone putting a #25Bahman protest sticker on an Iranian police car:
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:30:53pm |
re: #69 Lidane
Apparently, Bob Dylan performed tonight. Haven't found a video for it yet, but they were pimping his performance when I watched earlier.
He growled Maggies Farm with a preposterous number of stringed instruments and an accordian in the background. Hey, it worked.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:31:19pm |
re: #71 Jadespring
I need to get a horse so I can justify wearing a cowboy hat.
Just thought everyone should know this. :)
Why not just use a plastic bag?
Rubberbandits - Horse Outside
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:31:23pm |
re: #73 sizzleRI
It was not pretty. No worse than the two times I saw him in person but just once again reminds me that I was born too late to see my favorite musician perform live.
Dylan puked out 30 years ago...no big deal except his fans expect something more than he mails in for a show...long ago, he had more disappointed fans than happy fans
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:32:18pm |
re: #77 Killgore Trout
Why not just use a plastic bag?
Rubberbandits - Horse Outside[Video]
Mmmm....not quite the right look for me.
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:32:45pm |
re: #78 albusteve
Dylan puked out 30 years ago...no big deal except his fans expect something more than he mails in for a show...long ago, he had more disappointed fans than happy fans
Bob Dylan can do no wrong.
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:34:27pm |
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:38:51pm |
Mick Jagger. Dude one step ahead of the grim reaper and still doin it. Not too sure that's a good thing. Not going gently that is for sure.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:39:13pm |
re: #80 The Shadow Do
Bob Dylan can do no wrong.
yeah, the bar is pretty low these days...and an awesome live band like Little Feat gets zero recognition, and have to 175 gigs a year to make any money....it's pathetic, the presence of the artist is of greater value than the product
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:40:56pm |
re: #83 albusteve
yeah, the bar is pretty low these days...and an awesome live band like Little Feat gets zero recognition, and have to 175 gigs a year to make any money...it's pathetic, the presence of the artist is of greater value than the product
But how can they be a great band without a series on MTV, Disney or Nickelodeon, with their own line of merchandising to go with it?
/
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:41:38pm |
re: #82 The Shadow Do
Mick Jagger. Dude one step ahead of the grim reaper and still doin it. Not too sure that's a good thing. Not going gently that is for sure.
Jagger has never much indulged in drugs, especially narcotics...never drank much, hasn't smoked in decades, and is a runner/fitness freak....he's probably in better shape than you
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:41:40pm |
re: #83 albusteve
yeah, the bar is pretty low these days...and an awesome live band like Little Feat gets zero recognition, and have to 175 gigs a year to make any money...it's pathetic, the presence of the artist is of greater value than the product
Sucks, but good for some of us who will still get a chance to pay to see Little Feat.
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Ben G. Hazi Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:42:20pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
SAdly there are no credible voices left to raise the alarm. It's nice that the MSM is covering it but all the bloggers have sided with the EDL and Geert Wilders.
And they're going to go to town on this, citing this crap as reasons to treat all Muslims as criminals or subhumans...
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:42:33pm |
re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
But how can they be a great band without a series on MTV, Disney or Nickelodeon, with their own line of merchandising to go with it?
/
Ga Ga Bobble Heads
$129.95
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:42:59pm |
re: #85 albusteve
Jagger has never much indulged in drugs, especially narcotics...never drank much, hasn't smoked in decades, and is a runner/fitness freak...he's probably in better shape than you
No doubt about that statement. I could take him in checkers maybe.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:47:26pm |
re: #86 The Shadow Do
Sucks, but good for some of us who will still get a chance to pay to see Little Feat.
unbelievable jam band...since they practically invented that riff...but others in the business know how good they are regardless, and they are very appreciative of those people...I have witnessed first hand the frustration those guys have gone through...anybody that pops Chinese Work Songs on the platter and denies they are a superior band knows nothing in the first place...and their live shows are legendary, I've seen about 200 of them
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Transfromnation Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:48:10pm |
I remember watching this video in high school. The sex scene was, needless to say, pretty awkward on multiple levels.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:49:44pm |
re: #78 albusteve
Dylan puked out 30 years ago...no big deal except his fans expect something more than he mails in for a show...long ago, he had more disappointed fans than happy fans
Well, Mick Jagger still brought the needed energy and talent tonight.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:50:31pm |
re: #93 Dark_Falcon
Well, Mick Jagger still brought the needed energy and talent tonight.
he did?...what did he do?
what an old softie
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:50:33pm |
Who remembers their first R&R concert? For me it was the Stones, 1964, they did not even have a hit song. Did not hear one note due to the screaming young girls. They were British and that was enough then.
Been a fan forever though. Greatest rock band of all time. So say I.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:52:16pm |
re: #95 The Shadow Do
Who remembers their first R&R concert? For me it was the Stones, 1964, they did not even have a hit song. Did not hear one note due to the screaming young girls. They were British and that was enough then.
Been a fan forever though. Greatest rock band of all time. So say I.
Iron Maiden, with Anthrax opening.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:52:20pm |
Barbara Streisand on now. She's still got talent, more than many at the Grammy's
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:53:16pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Barbara Streisand on now. She's still got talent, more than many at the Grammy's
Babs is a moron but I love her anyway
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:54:06pm |
re: #94 albusteve
he did?...what did he do?
what an old softie
Well, he was soloing tonight, so Keith Richards wasn't there. Likely that's because the Rolling Stone could still blow most pop acts clear off the stage.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:56:06pm |
re: #95 The Shadow Do
Who remembers their first R&R concert? For me it was the Stones, 1964, they did not even have a hit song. Did not hear one note due to the screaming young girls. They were British and that was enough then.
Been a fan forever though. Greatest rock band of all time. So say I.
no question about it...and further, nobody else is even a close second
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:56:50pm |
re: #99 Dark_Falcon
Well, he was soloing tonight, so Keith Richards wasn't there. Likely that's because the Rolling Stones could still blow most pop acts clear off the stage.
PIMF
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:58:00pm |
re: #100 albusteve
no question about it...and further, nobody else is even a close second
Start me up Steve
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:58:28pm |
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:59:36pm |
Check out this live blog from Tehran
[Link: www.pbs.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 7:59:50pm |
re: #95 The Shadow Do
Who remembers their first R&R concert? For me it was the Stones, 1964, they did not even have a hit song. Did not hear one note due to the screaming young girls. They were British and that was enough then.
Been a fan forever though. Greatest rock band of all time. So say I.
I'm not sure I've ever BEEN to a rock concert.
Does Black 47 count as rock?
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:01:05pm |
re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm not sure I've ever BEEN to a rock concert.
Does Black 47 count as rock?
Uh oh, what is a Black 47?
I suck
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:01:54pm |
don't recall my first gig...something around 1966 tho...we had a place in Kalamazoo called the Crazy Horse and they booked a lot of Detroit bands we saw there...Amboy Dukes, Rotary Connection, Seger, Brownsville Station, MC5, Mitch Ryder....whoever it was, I had no clue I'd go off and see 1000s of R/R and blues shows in my day, and it's never stopped...Joe Bonamassa is coming to town in a couple of weeks
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:03:48pm |
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:05:10pm |
re: #87 Stanley Sea
Iran tomorrow. Getting my twitter feed ready
A month ago I didn't think much of twitter and only reluctantly got an account to use for business. Then Egypt happened. I'm not going to bad mouth it anymore.
I'm going to have to get another account for business now though. Don't think all this revolutionary stuff and following all of these revolutionaries is going to mesh that well. :)
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:05:14pm |
re: #107 albusteve
wow, I am impressed. Got Amboy Dukes, Seger and Mitch Ryder on my done that list. Envy.
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:07:13pm |
Holy crap. It just sounded like my roof was coming off. Scared me half to death.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:07:57pm |
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:11:09pm |
re: #110 The Shadow Do
wow, I am impressed. Got Amboy Dukes, Seger and Mitch Ryder on my done that list. Envy.
all local bands that I saw many times...I have friends in NYC and Philly....you should hear their tales, I envy them too
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:13:22pm |
re: #113 albusteve
all local bands that I saw many times...I have friends in NYC and Philly...you should hear their tales, I envy them too
I still love Canned Heat
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:13:52pm |
re: #112 Dark_Falcon
[Video]
the Stones were better than they ever had been in the 90s....just terrific shows and they took their performances very seriously....
Shine A Light...
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JAFO Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:13:53pm |
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:16:58pm |
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:17:16pm |
re: #114 HoosierHoops
I still love Canned Heat
a really under rated blues band...one of the best in their day
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justaminute Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:18:58pm |
My husband and I went to dinner with friends tonight and I heard a slightly interesting story. It is funny as my husband's first cousin called today and told him news about his job. The cousin is a petroleum engineer and a department head for a large petroleum company. My husband's friend is a vice-president for a company the makes oil field equipment. My husband's other friend also is in management for another oil company. The cousin already lives in Houston and the other two friends anticipated moving to Houston this summer. These are completely separate companies.
Two have been notified this week that the moves to Houston are off. It seems the headquarters are moving to Europe. My husband's cousin's company is also moving their headquarters to Europe. The friend that is the vice-president of the oil field tool company said Europe is closer to the Middle East and Africa. It is also an easier commute to China. He said he anticipates all oil companies to follow the same path.
They said globalization puts America in kind of a tough position. We enjoyed being protected by two oceans but now it may play against us. Dinner was really interesting. I thought you might enjoy the gossip.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:20:16pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:22:30pm |
re: #115 albusteve
the Stones were better than they ever had been in the 90s...just terrific shows and they took their performances very seriously...
Shine A Light...[Video]
True. Those mid-90's shows were classics, and the Stones were at their peak of cultural influence. Heck, Melrose Place fought hard just to be allowed to use a RS song (Out of Tears) in one of their episodes. And Start Me Up was the song Microsoft used for the launch of Windows 95/
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:23:22pm |
re: #120 justaminute
My husband and I went to dinner with friends tonight and I heard a slightly interesting story. It is funny as my husband's first cousin called today and told him news about his job. The cousin is a petroleum engineer and a department head for a large petroleum company. My husband's friend is a vice-president for a company the makes oil field equipment. My husband's other friend also is in management for another oil company. The cousin already lives in Houston and the other two friends anticipated moving to Houston this summer. These are completely separate companies.
Two have been notified this week that the moves to Houston are off. It seems the headquarters are moving to Europe. My husband's cousin's company is also moving their headquarters to Europe. The friend that is the vice-president of the oil field tool company said Europe is closer to the Middle East and Africa. It is also an easier commute to China. He said he anticipates all oil companies to follow the same path.
They said globalization puts America in kind of a tough position. We enjoyed being protected by two oceans but now it may play against us. Dinner was really interesting. I thought you might enjoy the gossip.
Never a good idea to move too far away from your key customer, but I get it. There will be some regret in some of these moves.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:23:38pm |
re: #119 The Shadow Do
On the road again
[Video]
Alan Wilson was the guy who tracked down legendary bluesman Son House and talked him into performing again in his old age...myth has it that Wilson had to reteach House his own riffs...Wilsons death was a tragic loss
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:24:54pm |
re: #115 albusteve
the Stones were better than they ever had been in the 90s...just terrific shows and they took their performances very seriously...
Shine A Light...[Video]
The Imax Stones were something to behold. Told my kid they were the greatest band ever. I think she got it.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:24:59pm |
re: #123 The Shadow Do
I'm just getting reinforcement for my views of having a much closer relationship with Canada, along with heavily increased Nuclear Power. These two are related.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:25:09pm |
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:25:36pm |
re: #121 ProLifeLiberal
What happened?
After what you said about Twitter, I might get it too.
All the snow slid we got this week slid off the roof with no warning. Shook the entire house.
As for twitter if your at all interested in following what's going on the Middle East right it's really worth while. You get info that doesn't appear in the news, more personal accounts and see things before they appear in any news.
Plus it was pretty damn cool to actually talk to someone who is there and involved.
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:26:12pm |
re: #119 The Shadow Do
On the road again
[Video]
Blind Alan Wilson..OD from drugs
Big Bear..Heart attack
I loved those guys..Inspired me to play guitar
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justaminute Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:26:49pm |
re: #123 The Shadow Do
Never a good idea to move too far away from your key customer, but I get it. There will be some regret in some of these moves.
They seemed to hint that in the coming years Americans are going to be but one of their good customer's.
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:28:15pm |
re: #130 justaminute
They seemed to hint that in the coming years Americans are going to be but one of their good customer's.
They are wrong.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:29:30pm |
re: #122 Dark_Falcon
True. Those mid-90's shows were classics, and the Stones were at their peak of cultural influence. Heck, Melrose Place fought hard just to be allowed to use a RS song (Out of Tears) in one of their episodes. And Start Me Up was the song Microsoft used for the launch of Windows 95/
those tours were the stuff of legend now...Watts and Richards were extremely adamant that if they were going to tour, then they would put up studio quality performances....Chuck Leavell (piano) was made musical director and was very strict about their arrangements, timing, attack and overall sound quality...he does not fuck around
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freetoken Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:31:05pm |
re: #123 The Shadow Do
Never a good idea to move too far away from your key customer, but I get it. There will be some regret in some of these moves.
Ahh, but they probably are moving closer to their key customers.
The people described sound like they are part of the up-stream portion of the industry.
BTW, Haliburton moved to the Persian Gulf in part for this reason.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:31:22pm |
re: #125 The Shadow Do
The Imax Stones were something to behold. Told my kid they were the greatest band ever. I think she got it.
both my kids, 26 and 28, really dig the Stones...and my baby grandson will too
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:32:08pm |
re: #125 The Shadow Do
The Imax Stones were something to behold. Told my kid they were the greatest band ever. I think she got it.
I saw that concert at the Omnimax at the Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry. Great stuff. The only classic Stones song they didn't do was "Sympathy for the Devil". But I think that was because kids were allowed to see the show and that song isn't child friendly. It's a very good song, though.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:34:17pm |
From Black 47:
Oh Maria, I'm so sorry I wrecked your wedding
You've just gotta believe me
But just the thought of you takin' your clothes off for that jerk
Oh, it got me drinkin' and then suddenly I'm staggerin' into church
And I'm dancin' like Baryshnikov all across the high altar
Oh I bet that you're still mortified
But just think, girl,
No one's ever gonna be forgetting
The day I wrecked your wedding.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:34:43pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
I saw that concert at the Omnimax at the Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry. Great stuff. The only classic Stones song they didn't do was "Sympathy for the Devil". But I think that was because kids were allowed to see the show and that song isn't child friendly. It's a very good song, though.
when my daughter figured out the lyrics and the gist of Midnight Rambler she was stunned....heh, well what can I say?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:35:04pm |
re: #134 albusteve
both my kids, 26 and 28, really dig the Stones...and my baby grandson will too
A few years ago, one of my high school students came up to me and said, "Do you know about a band called Led Zeppelin?"
I said, "Yes, of course."
She said, "Aren't they amazing?"
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freetoken Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:36:55pm |
re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist
A few years ago, one of my high school students came up to me and said, "Do you know about a band called Led Zeppelin?"
I said, "Yes, of course."
She said, "Aren't they amazing?"
I'm waiting for them to discover Benny Goodman.
I could be waiting for a while...
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:38:17pm |
re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist
A few years ago, one of my high school students came up to me and said, "Do you know about a band called Led Zeppelin?"
I said, "Yes, of course."
She said, "Aren't they amazing?"
kids are so cute...their time will come
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:39:14pm |
re: #125 The Shadow Do
The Imax Stones were something to behold. Told my kid they were the greatest band ever. I think she got it.
Horizon to horizon three story Keith Richards makes one long lasting impression
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:40:07pm |
re: #134 albusteve
both my kids, 26 and 28, really dig the Stones...and my baby grandson will too
Thats funny. I'm 27, my sister is 26, and my dad thinks the Stones are the greatest rock band ever. Bar none. We both really dig them. Parental brainwashing is very effective when it is for a worthwhile goal.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:42:06pm |
re: #142 sizzleRI
Thats funny. I'm 27, my sister is 26, and my dad thinks the Stones are the greatest rock band ever. Bar none. We both really dig them. Parental brainwashing is very effective when it is for a worthwhile goal.
they just played throughout the house all the time....sometimes ma and pa would dance and the kids would join in, yelling out the chorus at the top of their lungs....good times
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:42:15pm |
First, I am not amused at the winners this year. Mainly because several people I do like who were nominated lost.
Second, I just saw this amusing tweet a couple times:
She was at the VMAs covered in meat. Now she's at the Grammys dressed as an egg. Two more red carpets and Gaga will be a Denny's Grand Slam.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:42:34pm |
re: #141 The Shadow Do
Horizon to horizon three story Keith Richards makes one long lasting impression
True that. but it was the sound quality that really stole the show. It allowed the Stones' incredible music to be heard to its best effect.
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:42:49pm |
re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist
A few years ago, one of my high school students came up to me and said, "Do you know about a band called Led Zeppelin?"
I said, "Yes, of course."
She said, "Aren't they amazing?"
Thats how I was about Bob Dylan.
This is so shameful, but I'll share. When I was in middle school The Wallflowers had some hits. I told my dad that I heard maybe Jacob Dylan's dad was famous or something?
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The Shadow Do Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:44:38pm |
re: #146 sizzleRI
Thats how I was about Bob Dylan.
This is so shameful, but I'll share. When I was in middle school The Wallflowers had some hits. I told my dad that I heard maybe Jacob Dylan's dad was famous or something?
LOL!
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:45:43pm |
re: #146 sizzleRI
Thats how I was about Bob Dylan.
This is so shameful, but I'll share. When I was in middle school The Wallflowers had some hits. I told my dad that I heard maybe Jacob Dylan's dad was famous or something?
children need to find their own path
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Henchman 25 Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:47:14pm |
Aaaauuuuugghh. My mom and her friend are such fucking racist tools.
Fox News, Glenn Beck, FUCK YOU for helping this along.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:47:44pm |
re: #149 SteelPH
Aaaauuugghh. My mom and her friend are such fucking racist tools.
Fox News, Glenn Beck, FUCK YOU for helping this along.
Hug.
I'm so sorry.
Tell the Lizards, let us make it better.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:47:55pm |
did i just watch a potato have sex with a tomato
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:48:31pm |
I just saw a few people on Twitter some saying that France is providing large amounts of crowd surpression stuff to the Algerian Government.
Why does France talk to us about Human Rights again? They've got a much worse record than we do, what with the Algerian War, and their involvement in the Rwanda Genocide.
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:48:51pm |
re: #149 SteelPH
Aaaauuugghh. My mom and her friend are such fucking racist tools.
Fox News, Glenn Beck, FUCK YOU for helping this along.
Oh no. :( What happened?
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:49:58pm |
re: #154 ProLifeLiberal
didn't watch the video up there, eh?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:52:09pm |
Now, to lead this back to politics, I keep thinking back to how, when they were rioting in Tehran I kept listening to "Rock the Casbah".
I wonder if modern Iranian kids know The Clash.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:52:20pm |
re: #149 SteelPH
Aaaauuugghh. My mom and her friend are such fucking racist tools.
Fox News, Glenn Beck, FUCK YOU for helping this along.
I think you have it backwards, your mom is helping Beck along...into the high dollar world of TV ratings...unless she was somehow hypnotized into racism
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:52:31pm |
re: #155 SpaceJesus
I will now. I was watching the conversation.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:53:38pm |
re: #155 SpaceJesus
didn't watch the video up there, eh?
many people don't read or watch the posts, and just go straight to the comments
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:56:24pm |
re: #160 albusteve
interesting. i almost always read the main entry, then never read any of the comments before posting whatever asinine thing it is i have to say
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:56:40pm |
re: #152 ProLifeLiberal
I just saw a few people on Twitter some saying that France is providing large amounts of crowd surpression stuff to the Algerian Government.
Why does France talk to us about Human Rights again? They've got a much worse record than we do, what with the Algerian War, and their involvement in the Rwanda Genocide.
Being France means never having to say you're sorry.
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BishopX Sun, Feb 13, 2011 8:57:12pm |
re: #156 SanFranciscoZionist
Speaking of Egypt, the NYtimes has a really excellent article talking about what was going on behind the scenes during the protests and prior to them. Interestingly they talk about how Tunisian and Egyptian youth activists were collaborating for several years prior to the protests.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:00:06pm |
re: #161 SpaceJesus
I usually don't watch videos, though I do read the stories through a few times.
That video scarred me, I have need of Brain Bleach.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:00:24pm |
re: #149 SteelPH
Aaaauuugghh. My mom and her friend are such fucking racist tools.
Fox News, Glenn Beck, FUCK YOU for helping this along.
Please do explain this.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:03:17pm |
re: #151 SpaceJesus
did i just watch a potato have sex with a tomato
Speaking of which, I think some people might enjoy this:
Sex at the Natural History Museum - audio slideshow
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:05:35pm |
I had forgotten how incredibly bizarre the video for "Rock the Casbah" is, what with the oil sheikh, and the Chasid, and the armadillo.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:07:32pm |
re: #161 SpaceJesus
We love you for yourself!
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:07:33pm |
i think im gonna watch Black Dynamite on instant watch on netflx tonight. such a thing of cinematic beauty.
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:07:47pm |
re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist
I had forgotten how incredibly bizarre the video for "Rock the Casbah" is, what with the oil sheikh, and the Chasid, and the armadillo.
Armadillo!
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:09:14pm |
re: #169 SpaceJesus
i think im gonna watch Black Dynamite on instant watch on netflx tonight. such a thing of cinematic beauty.
"I threw that before I came in the room!"
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albusteve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:09:38pm |
re: #161 SpaceJesus
interesting. i almost always read the main entry, then never read any of the comments before posting whatever asinine thing it is i have to say
back in the day I used to try and read every comment, or at least surf them very close...not anymore, but I like to have a feeling for what's goin down...and I always read the main post, otherwise why bother?
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:10:18pm |
re: #171 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"First Lady, I'm sorry I pimp-slapped you into that china cabinet"
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:10:59pm |
re: #170 sizzleRI
Armadillo!
The armadillo is a key part of the video. My favorite shot is the one where you can see not only the armadillo, but also a Winchell's Donuts sign.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:11:02pm |
re: #173 SpaceJesus
"First Lady, I'm sorry I pimp-slapped you into that china cabinet"
Or when Roscoe jumps up, "CHICKEN AND WAFFLES?! I GOT TO GO!"
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steve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:11:09pm |
re: #16 BishopX
You can set a lot of money aside when you a)have a non-minimum wage job b) don't have dependents c)don't invest in the latest and greatest tech and d)avoid recreational spending like the movies/starbucks/alcohol. You can also get a lot more bang for your buck when traveling when you a)sleep on someones floor rather than a mote b)know about the trip a year in advance and c)only bring 1 change of clothes.
Sufficient dedication can get you far.
Also helps if you share rent for apartments and utilities with 2 to 4 other people.
I managed to put my way through college (probably like many others here) on minimum wages. Paid back all of my loans for college on wages just above minimum wage while working my way up to a sufficient salary to be able to afford some luxuries. i.e. android tab 7
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:11:19pm |
re: #172 albusteve
yeah, i only read the comments when my liberal progressive spider sense tells me there is a conservative lurking in here someplace
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steve Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:13:34pm |
re: #166 freetoken
Speaking of which, I think some people might enjoy this:
Sex at the Natural History Museum - audio slideshow
That is what they used to call "in the can" on the nature show on tv a few years+ ago.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:14:56pm |
re: #173 SpaceJesus
"First Lady, I'm sorry I pimp-slapped you into that china cabinet"
Wouldn't work with Michelle Obama. She's just choke slam you into oblivion. Strong lady, and a visible symbol of the benefits of clean living.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:15:07pm |
re: #149 SteelPH
Aaaauuugghh. My mom and her friend are such fucking racist tools.
Fox News, Glenn Beck, FUCK YOU for helping this along.
Right there with you dude, my mom & stepdad.
"Why can't I get a copy of Obama's birth certificate? I don't care about Hawaiian State law. Why is there more black on white crime than white on black crime? Our financial conservative black friend likes Obama, it must be because he's black not because the market is up 93% since March '09. Why did so few blacks vote for McCain, they must be racist. I'm sure McCain voting against MLK day is irrelevant. Why won't Obama/Holder made a federal case out of those two black NBP guys in Illinois that intimidated us months later when we saw them on FOX News? I never heard that the Bush DOJ passed on criminally prosecuting those two black guys, but now that I do know I don't care, Obama should assuage our ridiculous sense of white victimhood. We just got back from Egypt and it was DIRTY. You should read this forwarded email I got from ex PNW Jew David Dolan, he says that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to govern themselves. What do you mean he's not Jewish? What do you mean he's an apocalypse worshiping fundie Christian who dabbled in the occult and says he was once tempted by a demon? I don't know anything about that guy Dolan I obviously subscribe to and told you to read, I just thought it was an interesting read. War of Gog and Magog? That was in the email I forwarded you that I either obviously didn't read or wouldn't have sent you? Don't tell me I should unsubscribe from World Net Daily, that's censorship! Let's not talk politics in email or restaurants anymore! It's a shame you close yourself off from such intelligent people."
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:18:58pm |
re: #177 SpaceJesus
LOL!
Spidey sense!
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:19:44pm |
re: #180 goddamnedfrank
You made mah head hurt.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:20:57pm |
re: #180 goddamnedfrank
Sorry they went that way, Frank. I understand how that hurts. I know we don't really like each other, but I really do regret that you've had to suffer through that. Keep trying though, since they might someday see the error of their ways. They'll need you on that day.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:21:25pm |
re: #180 goddamnedfrank
I have ants here. I curse them daily.
God Damn Ants.
Makes me laugh every time I see your Nic.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:26:42pm |
anybody want to give me their address so i can send you law and order valentines day cards? im adding candy to the ones im giving out tomorrow
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:29:44pm |
re: #185 SpaceJesus
Good candy, or cheesy hearts?
It makes a difference...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:31:19pm |
re: #185 SpaceJesus
How would I do that? :D
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:32:19pm |
re: #185 SpaceJesus
Send mine to Reggie, I think you have his addy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:32:47pm |
re: #185 SpaceJesus
this reminds me of my friend the iphone developer and occasional humorist who sent me a hello kitty valentine that he wrote "be mine or I'll cut myself and post it on myspace and then you'll love me"
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:33:59pm |
re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist
I had forgotten how incredibly bizarre the video for "Rock the Casbah" is, what with the oil sheikh, and the Chasid, and the armadillo.
Heh. That video was shot here in Austin. Blame the weirdness on that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:34:44pm |
re: #180 goddamnedfrank
basically, what has happened is there are so many people in their world telling them this gibberish looney stuff that you can't compete :P
Believe me, I seen it happen first hand. And there's no solution except "I don't discuss politics and any attempt to bring up politics will result in me exiting the conversation and then declining invitations in the future."
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SpaceJesus Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:35:27pm |
re: #179 Dark_Falcon
i don't think black dynamite would mess with mrs. o on his best day
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:35:52pm |
re: #190 Lidane
Heh. That video was shot here in Austin. Blame the weirdness on that.
Sister city! Image: KeepPortlandWeird.JPG Image: keep_austin_weird.gif
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:36:16pm |
re: #193 ProLifeLiberal
But they ARE native to Texas. Hell, I saw an armadillo walking down my street once.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:36:17pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
not the watermelon? The watermelon ones are sorta upsetting
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:36:30pm |
re: #196 Lidane
But they ARE native to Texas. Hell, I saw an armadillo walking down my street once.
see my 194 *_*
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:36:51pm |
re: #192 SpaceJesus
i don't think black dynamite would mess with mrs. o on his best day
Like I said, she's too tough to mess with.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:37:17pm |
re: #198 WindUpBird
see my 194 *_*
LMAO! Serves me right for clicking reply without checking the link first. XD
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:37:34pm |
re: #190 Lidane
do you also agree with Patton Oswalt that once you spend long enough in a place like Austin or Madison or Portland or Arcata, if you spend enough time there you have to stay because the rest of the world no longer makes any sense? :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:38:27pm |
re: #200 Lidane
One of these days I'm doing SXSW
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:38:56pm |
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:39:06pm |
re: #201 WindUpBird
do you also agree with Patton Oswalt that once you spend long enough in a place like Austin or Madison or Portland or Arcata, if you spend enough time there you have to stay because the rest of the world no longer makes any sense? :D
I don't know about the rest of the world, but after 12+ years in Austin, I won't live in any other part of Texas. It makes sense here, dammit.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:39:09pm |
re: #196 Lidane
But they ARE native to Texas. Hell, I saw an armadillo walking down my street once.
I saw an armadillo drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:39:25pm |
re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I saw an armadillo drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics...
His hair was perfect
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:40:09pm |
re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Upding for Warren Zevon. Excitable Boy is still in my rotation. Great album.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:41:19pm |
re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And my favorite Zevon song "transverse city" does not seem to be on youtube. :(
So here's my second favorite
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:41:55pm |
re: #208 Lidane
Upding for Warren Zevon. Excitable Boy is still in my rotation. Great album.
what is this rotation you speak of? :D I think I'm the last person on earth who never ever uses shuffle
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:43:52pm |
re: #210 WindUpBird
what is this rotation you speak of? :D I think I'm the last person on earth who never ever uses shuffle
I live on shuffle play. With thousands of songs on my iPod, it's the only way to not get bored.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:44:14pm |
re: #205 Lidane
I don't know about the rest of the world, but after 12+ years in Austin, I won't live in any other part of Texas. It makes sense here, dammit.
My friend who used to live in Austin who visited Portland says "it's all the same people, but it's much more moist."
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:46:49pm |
re: #211 Lidane
I live on shuffle play. With thousands of songs on my iPod, it's the only way to not get bored.
me and shuffle don't get along. If I hit shuffle, I get ambient 30 minute soundscapes up against some 300 bpm death metal songs, with the occasional prog rock epic, Cyndi Lauper tune, or some deep track on a skinny puppy record that's mostly screaming and a drum machine
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:47:25pm |
re: #191 WindUpBird
basically, what has happened is there are so many people in their world telling them this gibberish looney stuff that you can't compete :P
Believe me, I seen it happen first hand. And there's no solution except "I don't discuss politics and any attempt to bring up politics will result in me exiting the conversation and then declining invitations in the future."
My informal survey shows that the common denominator is they ALL leave FOX News playing even when they're not at home, like they're trying to brainwash the furniture while they're out lest it rise up against them.
It's like we're living some kind of weird 1950's sci-fi B movie plot.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:48:32pm |
re: #214 goddamnedfrank
My informal survey shows that the common denominator is they ALL leave FOX News playing even when they're not at home, like they're trying to brainwash the furniture while they're out lest it rise up against them.
It's like we're living some kind of weird 1950's sci-fi B movie plot.
What sucks is FOX is really good at it, and it's working on people. Most people simply do not have the will to question that shit.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:49:06pm |
re: #212 WindUpBird
My friend who used to live in Austin who visited Portland says "it's all the same people, but it's much more moist."
HA! I found that out in reverse. I visited Portland to go to a cousin's wedding right before I moved here to Austin. Fell in love with both cities, but I prefer the weather here.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:49:36pm |
re: #214 goddamnedfrank
My informal survey shows that the common denominator is they ALL leave FOX News playing even when they're not at home, like they're trying to brainwash the furniture while they're out lest it rise up against them.
It's like we're living some kind of weird 1950's sci-fi B movie plot.
A sane person would turn off Fox, so they will know if someone broke into the house while they were gone.
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:53:17pm |
Fox or some other station, I just don't get how people can have any news channels on all day. They drive me mental no matter who it is.
Exception being when there is something major going on.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 9:55:31pm |
Ah, new project time. Cleaning up some spare parts and realized I can get another whole squad together using my bits.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:04:25pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
Watermelon or Cinnamon?
It makes a difference!
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Kragar Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:05:22pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:08:33pm |
re: #222 Floral Giraffe
He was good friends with Carl Hiaasen, the reporter in Miami.
An interesting pair.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:16:42pm |
re: #216 Lidane
HA! I found that out in reverse. I visited Portland to go to a cousin's wedding right before I moved here to Austin. Fell in love with both cities, but I prefer the weather here.
see, I can't stand heat, so I think we both chose correctly *_*
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freetoken Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:23:13pm |
re: #216 Lidane
I've been in Austin (as in visiting, not driving through) only once - went dancing downtown at the place known as the local spot for Salsa dancing. People were friendly (dancers usually are), but on the whole I concluded that Texas is just too, well, cowboy to do justice to the Caribbean influenced dance form.
I've driven through Texas a few times, and stayed here or there (San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, Amarillo ...) Certainly has a definite nature about it.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:27:28pm |
re: #151 SpaceJesus
did i just watch a potato have sex with a tomato
Yes, you did.
AND you LIKED it!
LOL@
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:30:55pm |
re: #149 SteelPH
Sorry for your pain!
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:33:52pm |
re: #202 SpaceJesus
But, do you think he'd appreciate cherry or hot?
LOL, or maybe which would be appreciated more!????
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:40:48pm |
Hey all!
How is the evening for everyone?
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:41:30pm |
You DOD people are well, what it the best word?
Amazing, or frightening? Or maybe it's loosers.
I'll go for loosers.
Put the silly fools hats on & dance the night away.
If it fits....
You're wearing it.
If it makes you feel any better, you do look cute it in it.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:43:37pm |
re: #210 WindUpBird
what is this rotation you speak of? :D I think I'm the last person on earth who never ever uses shuffle
shuffle doesn't work well with audiobooks.
;0
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:47:54pm |
Am putting together small Valentines bags for my family to find when they wake-up.
Silly things that make me smile!
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sagehen Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:52:14pm |
re: #185 SpaceJesus
anybody want to give me their address so i can send you law and order valentines day cards? im adding candy to the ones im giving out tomorrow
The RNC actually has a cute one:
[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com...]
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:55:49pm |
Nucking Futz.
Enjoy your popcorn.
Goodnignt to the Lizardia.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:03:51pm |
The Grammy's were tonite? Who knew? I'm actually suprised I didn't. Anyway, the winners are here.
I recognize many of the artist, but don't think I know any of the songs. I feel old, but I'm not sure I missed much.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:11:46pm |
Italian Women Protest Against Silvio Berlusconi
"More than 100,000 Italian women and their supporters turned out across the country to protest against Premier Silvio Berlusconi, saying his dalliances with young women humiliate the sex as a whole and degrade female dignity.Backers of the 74-year-old Berlusconi, who is under investigation for allegedly paying for sex with a 17-year-old girl, dismissed the protests as strictly political.
The teenager, a Moroccan night club dancer, has said Berlusconi lavished cash and jewelry on her. Both deny having had sex with each other.
Prostitution isn't a crime in Italy, but paying a minor for sex is. Prosecutors are requesting to put him quickly on trial in what has been the most sensational probe against Berlusconi in over a decade of criminal cases against him, mainly for dealings in his billion-dollar empire of TV, film, advertising and other business interests."
&
In the main protest, Rome's Piazza del Popolo, a central square which can hold about 100,000 people, was packed with mothers, daughters, grandmothers and many husbands and boyfriends as the music blasted across the space, including Aretha Franklin's song "Respect."
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:21:34pm |
re: #230 Floral Giraffe
How short are you?
Not that anyone cares.
Except you.
Luidwig, you're clearly not.
You know, a real man!
If you can recognize one.
Honestly, height is not an issue, if you have the other qualities.
H0nesty, Integrity, Love, the basics....
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:25:53pm |
re: #14 Alouette
I'm not impressed by these gangs of anarchists who have the money and the time to attend globalist conventions in luxury resort towns. Normal working people can't afford to do that. So who is paying for all their plane tickets and hotel accommodations to "protest" the "rich"?
I know this was posted much earlier in the thread, but its so incredibly wrong that I have to comment. The majority of anarchists are indeed quite poor (although not necessarily). But when there is an anarchist presence at something like the G20 in Toronto, its not like anarchists are flying in from all over the globe. I'd say the vast majority (maybe 90 percent) were from southern Ontario. Those who traveled from farther away often came together in buses, splitting the cost. Some still hitchhike. Toronto was relatively easy to get too, and its a big city, not a luxury resort town. The G8 component of the meeting was held at a smaller northern town in Ontario, but there was virtually no anarchist presence there.
Secondly, it is hilarious that you think they are staying at hotels. There are huge networks and they help each other out, offering accommodation/food etc. I myself stayed at such a house during the G20 in Toronto (I was writing a story on the whole thing). They dumpster dived for food and cooked for everyone. I spent nearly nothing while I was there. Your suggestion that someone is bankrolling these protests is bizarrely conspiratorial.
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:29:48pm |
re: #238 Alexzander
I know this was posted much earlier in the thread, but its so incredibly wrong that I have to comment. The majority of anarchists are indeed quite poor (although not necessarily). But when there is an anarchist presence at something like the G20 in Toronto, its not like anarchists are flying in from all over the globe. I'd say the vast majority (maybe 90 percent) were from southern Ontario. Those who traveled from farther away often came together in buses, splitting the cost. Some still hitchhike. Toronto was relatively easy to get too, and its a big city, not a luxury resort town. The G8 component of the meeting was held at a smaller northern town in Ontario, but there was virtually no anarchist presence there.
Secondly, it is hilarious that you think they are staying at hotels. There are huge networks and they help each other out, offering accommodation/food etc. I myself stayed at such a house during the G20 in Toronto (I was writing a story on the whole thing). They dumpster dived for food and cooked for everyone. I spent nearly nothing while I was there. Your suggestion that someone is bankrolling these protests is bizarrely conspiratorial.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:30:01pm |
About a week ago, 20-year-old Travis Broyles woke up to news that his driver's license had been suspended for failing to pay a speeding ticket.
Then, when he logged onto his computer, his e-mail contained a series of overdraft alerts from his bank.
Broyles hung his head. He'd been between jobs since being let go from a full-time gig as a copywriter in Atlanta, where he lives.
"I said, 'You know what, I'm not leaving bed until I do something about this,'" he tells Weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz.
So Broyles rolled over, grabbed his computer and wrote an ad to place on Craigslist.
Web Resources
See Broyles' Craigslist Ad
Follow Broyles' Progress On His Blog'I DO ANYTHING'
The title of the ad is "I DO ANYTHING." Broyles was serious. "I will do whatever you want me to do for less money than whoever you are paying to do it now," he wrote.
Want him to compose and perform your own personal theme song? $20.
Want him to "try to fly in a public place for an hour"? $50.
Want him to "tell your kids which one is actually your favorite and what the others could do to improve their standing?" $100.
Oh — and if there's something you want him to do that he doesn't suggest in his ad, he just wants to emphasize: He does anything.
"Anything legal," he adds. "I've gotten a lot of e-mails asking me, 'Can you please punch this person in the face for me?' I'm not on board with that."
Broyles says he's received hundreds of e-mails from all over the world requesting he do anything. On Valentine's Day, he'll be someone's Valentine for $19.66.
"For texting, e-mailing and letting her know she's my one-and-only," he explains.
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:30:21pm |
The tide of resistance spreads to Saudi Arabia:
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:31:29pm |
re: #239 sizzleRI
I think your comment somehow didn't make it into that post.
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:33:43pm |
re: #239 sizzleRI
Didn't mean to do that.
Anyway. I have a very particular issue with the fact that protestors/freegans who dumpster dive think they are existing off the grid. By definition that is not possible. And it is annoying.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:36:07pm |
Off to bed!
Happy Valentines Day all!
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engineer cat Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:36:20pm |
Tea Bag Protests Pressure Muboehner To Resign
demand gop leaders stop hiding perpetual motion machine
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:37:17pm |
re: #243 sizzleRI
I have a very particular issue with the fact that protestors/freegans who dumpster dive think they are existing off the grid. By definition that is not possible. And it is annoying.
I'd agree that its stupid to think that dumpster diving is living off the grid. Of course its not. What it often is however, is free perfectly fine food. For many it helps them exist on otherwise minimum wage jobs. For others, it allows them to work less. Whatever works I guess.
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laZardo Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:41:17pm |
So I'm reading that "What to do if the Russians come" that Sergey linked a couple days ago and there is something nervously foreboding about their section on the John Birch Society:
Even more encouraging is the example of Piasecki, once the leader of the very small and very extreme Polish Fascist party. When he fell into Russian hands, he was told by Ivan Serov himself, deputy head of the Soviet secret police, that he was as good as dead already, but if he agreed to collaborate, the Russians could use him. He was made head of PAX, a body directed toward the subversion of the Catholic Church and, at the same time, was allowed or encouraged to carry out private financial transactions that made him the richest man in Poland. So you can see that there is no need to despair, and that, paradoxically, if you are a right-wing politician with a strong anti-Communist record, you may yet have a better future (at least for the time being) than many of your more "progressive" colleagues.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 13, 2011 11:48:38pm |
re: #247 laZardo
So I'm reading that "What to do if the Russians come" that Sergey linked a couple days ago and there is something nervously foreboding about their section on the John Birch Society:
"What To Do When The Russians Come"? My dad has an old copy of that.
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simoom Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:03:28am |
From Fox Nation:
Horseman of Apocalypse Shows up in Cairo?
This is an incredible piece of video. At the 1:20 mark you clearly see some greenish figure moving through the crowd.Between the crowds of protesters and barricades, the video shows a flowing, pale green image that resembles an erect rider atop a horse in Medieval-like barding. The ethereal figure remains for a few moments before floating over protesters' heads and off the screen.
Is this the Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse?
I have no words... :P
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:04:51am |
re: #246 Alexzander
I'd agree that its stupid to think that dumpster diving is living off the grid. Of course its not. What it often is however, is free perfectly fine food. For many it helps them exist on otherwise minimum wage jobs. For others, it allows them to work less. Whatever works I guess.
Let's face it, the "grid" is incredibly wasteful. The term off has multiple meanings, "living off the grid" doesn't have to mean living away from, without or independent of society anymore than the term "living off the land" means life aboard a boat at sea.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:10:19am |
re: #249 simoom
It also resembles an optical effect on the camera lens, but it looks cool as hell. The guy seems to be riding backwards.
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simoom Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:18:14am |
re: #251 ralphieboy
Heh, the first comment under the article is an O'Reilly proves God meme reference:
thinkingcap 10 hours ago
Reflective light on a camera lensYou can't explain that
22 people liked this.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:22:43am |
The Horseman rides in, the Horseman rides out, no miscommunication there...
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:23:55am |
re: #249 simoom
From Fox Nation:
Horseman of Apocalypse Shows up in Cairo?
I have no words... :P
Lens flare of the Apocalypse!
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simoom Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:25:14am |
Also, I wonder why they decided it looks like the fourth horseman... why not the second or the third? Maybe the author had previously seen the first three already elsewhere. :P
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:26:32am |
re: #249 simoom
This confirms, again, that the Fox Nation crowd really is the true-believer portion of the late night radio crowd that Art Bell tapped.
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simoom Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:29:29am |
re: #253 ralphieboy
The Horseman rides in, the Horseman rides out, no miscommunication there...
Meme Generator to the rescue!
Image: xzmYk.jpg
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:30:14am |
re: #256 simoom
Also, I wonder why they decided it looks like the fourth horseman... why not the second or the third? Maybe the author had previously seen the first three already elsewhere. :P
Because the optical artifact wasn't black or red, but pale green. Give the wingnuts credit where it's due, they do know their scripture. They don't understand it but they know it.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Feb 14, 2011 12:51:34am |
Thomas Friedman lets Israel have it:
Rather than even listening to what the democracy youth in Tahrir Square were saying and then trying to digest what it meant, this Israeli government took two approaches during the last three weeks: Frantically calling the White House and telling the president he must not abandon Pharaoh – to the point where the White House was thoroughly disgusted with its Israeli interlocutors – and using the opportunity to score propaganda points: “Look at us! Look at us! We told you so! We are the only stable country in the region, because we are the only democracy.’’
Israel’s government seemed oblivious to the irony of its message: “We are your only reliable ally because we are a democracy and whatever you do don’t abandon Mubarak and open the way there for democracy.’’
...
Well, that’s what happened here. The ferocity and popularity of Mubarak’s ouster should have told Israelis that they need to get to work immediately on building a relationship with the dynamic new popular trend here, not to be trying to cling to a dictator who was totally out of touch with his people. And, as we sit here today, the popular trend is not with the Muslim Brotherhood. Indeed, what makes the uprising here so impressive – and in that sense so dangerous to other autocracies in the region – is precisely the fact that it is not owned by, and was not inspired by, the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Feb 14, 2011 1:54:32am |
Any government poplarly elected by the Egyptian people is going to be a lot more pro-Muslim than most Americans would like to see, especially the conservatives.
It will be painted as a foreign policy "disaster" and a foreboding of the Caliphate. The Pale Rider is just a warning of what we will see.
...
"Morning, Death"
"Hello, Famine, Hello Plague. Where's War?"
"He couldn't make it today"
"Oh well, it isn't The End of the World."
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Feb 14, 2011 2:10:27am |
Flounce: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Feb 14, 2011 2:14:16am |
Pam Geller is the very soul of Civility, really...
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 2:35:15am |
re: #261 ralphieboy
I have no doubt that any truly representative government in Egypt will have voices that hold to religiously conservative Islam and that there will even be some who are influence by the MB.
However, I also am quite sure that what we are seeing going on in Egypt is much more complex than the Beckian/Geller-ite crowd will ever acknowledge.
re: #260 goddamnedfrank
I usually don't have much time for Friedman (his pieces on environment and energy tend to be too detached from the messiness of reality), but I do think he has a point here. I'm afraid that as new generations come into power around the world with speed accelerated by modern communications, that the old guard (in all sorts of nations) just aren't adapting fast enough.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:19:26am |
re: #261 ralphieboy
That "Mornin' Death" bit is funny as hell.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:22:28am |
re: #262 WindUpBird
What is it about an 8 post flouncer that makes them think we give a shit if they flounce?
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:36:15am |
And so it begins, the opening counter in the great budget battle:
Obama to offer $3.7 trillion budget blueprint
Ultimately, the leaders are going to have to try and sell the American people the truth - though I expect them to put it off to the very, very end.
And what is the "truth"? In this case, that that Reagan voodoo type of economics is doo-doo.
Taxes will have to be levied, and disproportionately so on the upper quartile of incomes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:41:11am |
re: #268 freetoken
It doesn't seem that long ago that they were making a big deal about a trillion dollar budget.
Glad we've got that number "undecillion". We'll need it before long (regardless of who's in the WH)
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:48:56am |
re: #269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Glad we've got that number "undecillion". We'll need it before long (regardless of who's in the WH)
Perhaps we should just switch to scientific notation?
And, when the undecillion becomes too small, we still have the googolplex!
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:51:35am |
Sigh... the Vatican is at it again. They are lamenting that world population growth is actually slowing down.
At UN, nuncio laments falling birthrates, links economic growth, rising population
Addressing the United Nations Economic and Social Council on February 11, Archbishop Francis Chullikatt lamented the extent of world poverty and urged a UN body to view the family, founded upon the marriage of a man and a woman, as central to development.
[...]
“While policy makers often state that population growth is detrimental to development, the reality is that where economic growth has increased, it is often accompanied with population increases,” the archbishop continued. “In developed regions, we are now witnessing dwindling and ageing populations and many nations are struggling to maintain social services and economic growth as the ratio of workers to non-workers decreases. In the developing regions, we are witnessing an unprecedented decline in fertility [and] birth rate – a decline advocated often as the best means to achieve development. However, many nations in the developing world are now at risk of growing old before they grow rich.”
Yes, that's right, the problem the world faces is that there just isn't enough people.
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 3:59:05am |
Krugman hits a home-run:
On Friday, House Republicans unveiled their proposal for immediate cuts in federal spending. Uncharacteristically, they failed to accompany the release with a catchy slogan. So I’d like to propose one: Eat the Future.
[...]
The key point to understand is that while many voters say that they want lower spending, press the issue a bit further and it turns out that they only want to cut spending on other people.
That’s the lesson from a new survey by the Pew Research Center, in which Americans were asked whether they favored higher or lower spending in a variety of areas. It turns out that they want more, not less, spending on most things, including education and Medicare. They’re evenly divided about spending on aid to the unemployed and — surprise — defense.
The only thing they clearly want to cut is foreign aid, which most Americans believe, wrongly, accounts for a large share of the federal budget.
Pew also asked people how they would like to see states close their budget deficits. Do they favor cuts in either education or health care, the main expenses states face? No. Do they favor tax increases? No. The only deficit-reduction measure with significant support was cuts in public-employee pensions — and even there the public was evenly divided.
The moral is clear. Republicans don’t have a mandate to cut spending; they have a mandate to repeal the laws of arithmetic.
[...]
I call this the Las Vegas Worldview. That something can be had for nothing. And, I'm afraid a large share of our fellow citizenry fall into this trap.
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:07:13am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:10:31am |
re: #238 Alexzander
I know this was posted much earlier in the thread, but its so incredibly wrong that I have to comment. The majority of anarchists are indeed quite poor (although not necessarily). But when there is an anarchist presence at something like the G20 in Toronto, its not like anarchists are flying in from all over the globe. I'd say the vast majority (maybe 90 percent) were from southern Ontario. Those who traveled from farther away often came together in buses, splitting the cost. Some still hitchhike. Toronto was relatively easy to get too, and its a big city, not a luxury resort town. The G8 component of the meeting was held at a smaller northern town in Ontario, but there was virtually no anarchist presence there.
Secondly, it is hilarious that you think they are staying at hotels. There are huge networks and they help each other out, offering accommodation/food etc. I myself stayed at such a house during the G20 in Toronto (I was writing a story on the whole thing). They dumpster dived for food and cooked for everyone. I spent nearly nothing while I was there. Your suggestion that someone is bankrolling these protests is bizarrely conspiratorial.
Sounds pretty well organized for a bunch of anarchists.
Good Morning Lizards!
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:14:03am |
Entitlements represent at least 60% of the federal budget.
In other words, that money is already spent- year in and year out.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:14:33am |
The budget for 2007 was a measly $2.8 Trillion. That's almost a 40% increase in spending in a few short years and yet any talk of even a modest 10% across the board cut is labeled "draconian".
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:15:37am |
re: #277 RogueOne
The budget for 2007 was a measly $2.8 Trillion. That's almost a 40% increase in spending in a few short years and yet any talk of even a modest 10% across the board cut is labeled "draconian".
To his credit, Obama is beginning to deal with the issue.
Time will tell.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:17:24am |
re: #273 freetoken
It's a good one. It's like we're back in June 1937 & getting ready to kill the recovery again with the same misguided over concern with deficits. We have to fix the damage done before we can work on the deficits but that's not what all the people who have bought into the "Taxed Enough Already" fantasy want to hear.
Raise spending, raise taxes & fix the nation.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:20:23am |
re: #278 researchok
We're going to disagree. This is a pathetic start. He's going to let the repubs go at it with an axe so he can demagogue going into the next election cycle guaranteeing whoever wins the presidency has to deal with a repub house and senate.
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:21:39am |
re: #279 wlewisiii
Not sure about "fix the nation" - a concept I can't quite grok.
Nevertheless, I'd be happy if people would just stop pretending. Taxes have to go up to pay for all the promises we have made.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:22:31am |
re: #279 wlewisiii
It's a good one. It's like we're back in June 1937 & getting ready to kill the recovery again with the same misguided over concern with deficits. We have to fix the damage done before we can work on the deficits but that's not what all the people who have bought into the "Taxed Enough Already" fantasy want to hear.
Raise spending, raise taxes & fix the nation.
That argument, raising taxes when the economy is barely rumbling along, will guarantee a repub president to go with the repub legislative branches.
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:22:53am |
re: #280 RogueOne
We're going to disagree. This is a pathetic start. He's going to let the repubs go at it with an axe so he can demagogue going into the next election cycle guaranteeing whoever wins the presidency has to deal with a repub house and senate.
Not an altogether bad scenario.
Bottom line- more spending on infrastructure, less on everything else. The idea of status quo increased spending is absurd.
Even Obama recognizes this.
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:22:55am |
re: #280 RogueOne
The question is, who is going to demagogue whom?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:23:17am |
re: #281 freetoken
Not sure about "fix the nation" - a concept I can't quite grok.
Nevertheless, I'd be happy if people would just stop pretending. Taxes have to go up to pay for all the promises we have made.
In order for us to raise any significant revenue, you've got to tax the middle class more too. It is a fantasy that a tax on the rich will solve our revenue stream problem.
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:24:01am |
re: #281 freetoken
Not sure about "fix the nation" - a concept I can't quite grok.
Nevertheless, I'd be happy if people would just stop pretending. Taxes have to go up to pay for all the promises we have made.
Agreed- as long as their are spending cuts and a real effort to cut waste.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:24:13am |
re: #285 rwdflynavy
In order for us to raise any significant revenue, you've got to tax the middle class more too. It is a fantasy that a tax on the rich will solve our revenue stream problem.
And upding for grok!
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:24:56am |
I was NOT impressed with the Grammys. The first number that I watched was the "Ode to Anarchism" which was very well staged and performed, all created by artists and technicians earning the top rate, so WTF kind of a message are they attempting to project?
The second number that I watched, for about 10 seconds, was Justin Bieber. "baby baby baby yeah yeah yeah ooh ooh ooh." Shake his hair, pucker his lips. "ooh ooh ooh yeah yeah yeah baby baby baby."
Why is everyone groveling and oohing and aahing over this infant? Shove the pacifier back in his mouth and change his diapers.
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freetoken Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:25:06am |
Definition of "demagogue":
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:25:29am |
re: #285 rwdflynavy
In order for us to raise any significant revenue, you've got to tax the middle class more too. It is a fantasy that a tax on the rich will solve our revenue stream problem.
I believe if the population believes their is real spending reform they will accept tax hikes if they know that will help fix the problem.
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:28:49am |
ALL OF OUR GROWERS HAVE INVOKED THE ACT OF GOD CLAUSE ON OUR CONTRACTS DUE TO THE FOLLOWING RELEASE. WE WILL BE CONTACTING YOU PERSONALLY TO REVIEW HOW THIS WILL AFFECT OUR CONTRACTED ITEMS WITH YOU GOING FORWARD.THE DEVASTATING FREEZE IN MEXICO IS WORST FREEZE IN OVER 50 YEARS
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:30:54am |
re: #284 freetoken
The question is, who is going to demagogue whom?
I'm not one who believes the president is the smartest man on the planet but he's not a moron. He knows this level of spending is unsustainable. He's going to pass the leadership role over to the house so they can take the grief from the press ("they want grandma to starve") in the hope that will win him re-election. It might, but it's going to cost him the senate.
These numbers are too easy to understand. We're spending 2x as much money as we were just a short few years ago. Any claims of "draconian cuts" isn't going to fly.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:33:56am |
re: #238 Alexzander
I know this was posted much earlier in the thread, but its so incredibly wrong that I have to comment. The majority of anarchists are indeed quite poor (although not necessarily). But when there is an anarchist presence at something like the G20 in Toronto, its not like anarchists are flying in from all over the globe. I'd say the vast majority (maybe 90 percent) were from southern Ontario. Those who traveled from farther away often came together in buses, splitting the cost. Some still hitchhike. Toronto was relatively easy to get too, and its a big city, not a luxury resort town. The G8 component of the meeting was held at a smaller northern town in Ontario, but there was virtually no anarchist presence there.
Secondly, it is hilarious that you think they are staying at hotels. There are huge networks and they help each other out, offering accommodation/food etc. I myself stayed at such a house during the G20 in Toronto (I was writing a story on the whole thing). They dumpster dived for food and cooked for everyone. I spent nearly nothing while I was there. Your suggestion that someone is bankrolling these protests is bizarrely conspiratorial.
I think I created a Black Bloc page back during the last G-Something. One of their tools, of course is new media. The site below is one of several they use to talk to themselves, and set up actions. (Or it's The Man.)
Link is to a Googled cache, not straight to the A-Infos site, in case you're squeamish:
[Link: www.google.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:34:34am |
re: #291 researchok
Looks like I'm going canned goods shopping today.
By the way, what happened fifty years ago that made the weather so messed up?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:35:03am |
re: #292 RogueOne
I'm not one who believes the president is the smartest man on the planet but he's not a moron. He knows this level of spending is unsustainable. He's going to pass the leadership role over to the house so they can take the grief from the press ("they want grandma to starve") in the hope that will win him re-election. It might, but it's going to cost him the senate.
These numbers are too easy to understand. We're spending 2x as much money as we were just a short few years ago. Any claims of "draconian cuts" isn't going to fly.
you want some real spending decreases? Universal health care.
Course, it'll never happen because HEAVENS TO MERGATROID IT'S THE SOCIALIST MUSLIM PRESIDENT AETNA TOLD ME TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M A TOOL
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:35:25am |
re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Looks like I'm going canned goods shopping today.
By the way, what happened fifty years ago that made the weather so messed up?
UFO crash
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:35:59am |
Ouch:
Niall Ferguson Blasts Obama's Foreign Policy
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
The contrast between the foreign policy of the Nixon-Ford years and that of President Jimmy Carter is a stark reminder of how easily foreign policy can founder when there is a failure of strategic thinking. The Iranian revolution of 1979, which took the Carter administration wholly by surprise, was a catastrophe far greater than the loss of South Vietnam.Remind you of anything? "This is what happens when you get caught by surprise," an anonymous American official told The New York Times last week. "We've had endless strategy sessions for the past two years on Mideast peace, on containing Iran. And how many of them factored in the possibility that Egypt moves from stability to turmoil? None."
I can think of no more damning indictment of the administration's strategic thinking than this: It never once considered a scenario in which Mubarak faced a popular revolt.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:36:15am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:36:33am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:38:24am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:38:26am |
re: #296 WindUpBird
you want some real spending decreases? Universal health care.
Course, it'll never happen because HEAVENS TO MERGATROID IT'S THE SOCIALIST MUSLIM PRESIDENT AETNA TOLD ME TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M A TOOL
Sorry. No one believes HCR is actually going to lower costs, not even the ones who were running around trying to sell us that load of BS last year. BTW, how much did your insurance costs drop this year?
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researchok Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:39:45am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:40:12am |
I miss Bill Clinton and not just because it's valentines day.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:40:26am |
re: #301 Decatur Deb
Get some sleep.
I have the controls.
I usually sleep 6-7am to noonish. I worked graves and evening shifts in health care for over 10 years. I am currently at the relaxing-with-a-beer-and-some-information portion of my day. :D
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:44:07am |
Via DailyBeast:
Army aims to restore Egypt normalcy
[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]
Egypt's military leaders are reportedly preparing to ban strikes and act against "chaos and disorder" in an attempt to restore order in the country following weeks of protests that led to overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak.A military source said the Supreme Military Council would issue an order on Monday that would ban meetings by labour unions or professional syndicates, effectively forbidding strikes, and would tell all Egyptians to get back to work.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:45:03am |
re: #302 RogueOne
Sorry. No one believes HCR is actually going to lower costs, not even the ones who were running around trying to sell us that load of BS last year. BTW, how much did your insurance costs drop this year?
And now poof! As if by magic? You've become a talking point.
Listen up, Sir 'Rogue One', if that is your real call sign. ;-) my partner is now a registered nurse. My friends are registered nurses and managers of care facilities and respite facilities in Portland. I've rocked a health care job since the mid nineties. Between the people I drink with, we literally have two hundred years of experience in the field of health care. We added this shit up over pints! And we know without a doubt, that you, and your party, are full of dogshit about health care reform.
Sorry to say, you're a moron who is gobbling the cock of the GOP. Sorry to have to be the guy to tell you that.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:48:44am |
re: #307 WindUpBird
Sorry to say, you're a moron who is gobbling the cock of the GOP. Sorry to have to be the guy to tell you that.
Great argument.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:50:13am |
re: #307 WindUpBird
The last paragraph was unnecessary.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:50:22am |
re: #307 WindUpBird
Retired RN lurking on our laptop concurs. (I'm not a HC worker, and don't care if the total costs go up. My goal is civilized policies, not lower taxes for corporations.)
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:53:38am |
re: #302 RogueOne
Sorry. No one believes HCR is actually going to lower costs, not even the ones who were running around trying to sell us that load of BS last year. BTW, how much did your insurance costs drop this year?
Real health care reform will decrease costs. The joke passed as HCR won't.
Single. Payer.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:58:58am |
re: #312 wlewisiii
Costs are always going to go up. Period.
Nothing short of a catastrophic instant death plague on the entire world population of folks over 75 years old is going to decrease costs.
The idea of reducing costs of health care is simply, IMO, a pipe dream.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 4:59:43am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:00:18am |
re: #314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not that I am rooting for such a catastrophe.
DEATH PANELS!
CAROUSEL!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:02:09am |
My father in law is a remarkably healthy 80 year old guy.
Until he was seventy five, probably consumed about a thousand dollars in healthcare (I am serious).
After seventy five? Two months in hospitals, bypass surgeries, kidney stones, infections, and other maladies.
Probably a half a million since he turned 75.
Bunch of folks are turning 75.
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schnapp Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:04:37am |
re: #312 wlewisiii
Real health care reform will decrease costs. The joke passed as HCR won't.
Single. Payer.
I'm all for universal health care but what makes you think that the government is any better at controlling costs?
You know, the government that got the US into a debt crisis gradually over the last 10 years and more?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:05:13am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:10:59am |
re: #316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My father in law is a remarkably healthy 80 year old guy.
Until he was seventy five, probably consumed about a thousand dollars in healthcare (I am serious).
After seventy five? Two months in hospitals, bypass surgeries, kidney stones, infections, and other maladies.
Probably a half a million since he turned 75.
Bunch of folks are turning 75.
My FIL was the original tough old bird. He took armor ashore at Oran, Siciily, and Anzio, led the breakout from Pusan. He was riding and rebuilding his Harley at 85. At 86, he found out the cough was lung cancer and put a bullet through his head. A serious man.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:16:08am |
re: #317 schnapp
I'm all for universal health care but what makes you think that the government is any better at controlling costs?
You know, the government that got the US into a debt crisis gradually over the last 10 years and more?
1) "The Government" didn't get us into this deficit. Republican leaders of the government did by increasing spending and refusing to increase revenue by appropriate taxation.
2) I still trust any government agency more than I trust any insurance company I've ever had to deal with.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:29:10am |
re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can't bring yourselves to up-ding a plague?
heh
Ding whore posted an un-ding-able post.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:29:57am |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:32:31am |
My mom is 87 and this summer she is going on vacation to Spain!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:34:23am |
re: #320 wlewisiii
1) "The Government" didn't get us into this deficit. Republican leaders of the government did by increasing spending and refusing to increase revenue by appropriate taxation.
No. Overspending has been a downfall of BOTH sides of the aisle for a much longer time than you seem to imply. Raising taxes can only go so far to generating the revenue necessary to cover the runaway pork-barrel spending.
2) I still trust any government agency more than I trust any insurance company I've ever had to deal with.
Personally speaking, I don't trust the government any further than I could throw it. That doesn't mean I trust the insurance companies, but at least with the government, they're GUARANTEED to screw it up eventually.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:35:54am |
re: #324 thedopefishlives
No. Overspending has been a downfall of BOTH sides of the aisle for a much longer time than you seem to imply. Raising taxes can only go so far to generating the revenue necessary to cover the runaway pork-barrel spending.
Personally speaking, I don't trust the government any further than I could throw it. That doesn't mean I trust the insurance companies, but at least with the government, they're GUARANTEED to screw it up eventually.
Yeah--guess we should just shutter the Department of Defense.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:36:52am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:37:11am |
re: #325 Decatur Deb
I first read that as "shudder".
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:38:23am |
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:38:26am |
re: #317 schnapp
I'm all for universal health care but what makes you think that the government is any better at controlling costs?
You know, the government that got the US into a debt crisis gradually over the last 10 years and more?
Because single payer health care does, in fact, control costs.
Medicare and government health schemes, both here and overseas, spend far, far less in wasted administrative costs than private schemes. That's actual saved money. The colossal waste of healthcare dollars on administrative costs, marketing, and other things that do not benefit either doctors or patients in any way is one of the biggest factors in the spiraling costs of health care, and these elements either vanish or are substantially reduced in public health plans.
That alone would reduce costs to sustainable levels. However, public plans and national pharmacies also allow the power of economies of scale, where the huge single player can much more effectively negotiate lower prices for drugs and health care. Every other First World nation does it.
Single payer health care and a national pharmacy are the only ways in which health care costs will be controlled. It will, however, take years to get there, for no other reason than huge swathes of the American public have been fooled into voting against their own interests by slogans.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:45:13am |
re: #328 rwdflynavy
Hey!//
You're part of the screw-up government that made us the 3rd world hellhole we are today.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:46:36am |
re: #330 Decatur Deb
You're part of the screw-up government that made us the 3rd world hellhole we are today.
Yes, because that's exactly what I said. No, what I was trying to say is, pork-barrel spending is not solely a Republican problem.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:50:30am |
re: #331 thedopefishlives
Yes, because that's exactly what I said. No, what I was trying to say is, pork-barrel spending is not solely a Republican problem.
"Guaranteed to screw it up eventually" goes beyond party. It is a facile RW meme that attacks the notion of governanace.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:50:39am |
re: #331 thedopefishlives
Yes, because that's exactly what I said. No, what I was trying to say is, pork-barrel spending is not solely a Republican problem.
Like Robert Byrd.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:53:01am |
re: #332 Decatur Deb
"Guaranteed to screw it up eventually" goes beyond party. It is a facile RW meme that attacks the notion of governanace.
Oh, psh. That was meant to be partially facetious. The amazing thing about a bureaucracy is that the process is, by definition, guaranteed to produce results in a finite period of time. The relative inefficiency of such is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Ericus58 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:06:21am |
Boehner says facts show Obama a Christian, citizen
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
"WASHINGTON – House Speaker John Boehner says Americans have a right to think what they want to think, even when they're wrong about President Barack Obama's citizenship and his religion.
Some people believe that Obama, a native of Hawaii, was actually born outside the U.S. or in some other way is not a natural-born citizen eligible to be president. There is also a persistent belief among some that Obama, a Christian, is actually a Muslim.
When the host of NBC's "Meet the Press" asked Boehner whether he, as speaker of the House, had a responsibility to "stand up to that kind of ignorance," Boehner told David Gregory: "It's not my job to tell the American people what to think. Our job in Washington is to listen to the American people."
Boehner continued: "Having said that, the state of Hawaii has said that he was born there. That's good enough for me. The president says he's a Christian. I accept him at his word." He later called those "the facts" of Obama's background."
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:08:43am |
re: #335 Ericus58
John Boehner is a pansy. He doesn't have the balls to call the Nirthers on their crap, and he doesn't have the balls to go whole hog in their camp, either. Pick a side, Mr. Boehner, it will determine the future of your party.
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:10:34am |
re: #323 Alouette
My mom is 87 and this summer she is going on vacation to Spain!
I've met world travelers who say Spain is their favorite destination.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:14:40am |
re: #337 prairiefire
I've met world travelers who say Spain is their favorite destination.
I hope she has a fabulous time! She is traveling with my sister, and I hope that my sister meets a hot Spanish guy. :)
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:17:31am |
re: #338 Alouette
I hope she has a fabulous time! She is traveling with my sister, and I hope that my sister meets a hot Spanish guy. :)
If not,, when she comes back, maybe we can introduce her to my dad, a lukewarm Sicilian/ Irish/ American!
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:31:11am |
re: #337 prairiefire
I've met world travelers who say Spain is their favorite destination.
I'm not sure it was my favorite, but the Spanish Riviera near Barcellona is a real delight. I'd love to go back there again someday.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:34:56am |
re: #340 wlewisiii
I'm not sure it was my favorite, but the Spanish Riviera near Barcellona is a real delight. I'd love to go back there again someday.
I can't think of any place I want to visit, except for Israel. That's my favorite, of course my daughter lives there. :)
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darthstar Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:36:03am |
re: #335 Ericus58
Boehner continued: "Having said that, the state of Hawaii has said that he was born there. That's good enough for me. The president says he's a Christian. I accept him at his word." He later called those "the facts" of Obama's background."
What a fucking cowardly weasel. I'd love to see him choke on his words.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:37:17am |
re: #338 Alouette
I hope she has a fabulous time! She is traveling with my sister, and I hope that my sister meets a hot Spanish guy. :)
I hope she has a fabulous time too!
I had a great-aunt who travelled to Europe with some friends when she was in her late 70's.
She was very put out that in Italy, they "must have thought we were old or something, they kept trying to help us across the street".
LOL.
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darthstar Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:37:32am |
re: #343 darthstar
What a fucking cowardly weasel. I'd love to see him choke on his words.
Figuratively speaking, of course, we know what pussies people like Boehner are if they think something can be interpreted or cried about on Fox News as a "death threat"...fucking assholes.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:46:38am |
re: #344 reine.de.tout
I hope she has a fabulous time too!
I had a great-aunt who travelled to Europe with some friends when she was in her late 70's.
She was very put out that in Italy, they "must have thought we were old or something, they kept trying to help us across the street".
LOL.
Was on a crowded city bus in Italy, a few seats back from a kid in studded leather jacket, Doc Martens, piercings, hair gel, the works. A 60-70 year old woman came down the aisle, and he gave her his seat. I love Italy.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:48:48am |
re: #346 Decatur Deb
Was on a crowded city bus in Italy, a few seats back from a kid in studded leather jacket, Doc Martens, piercings, hair gel, the works. A 60-70 year old woman came down the aisle, and he gave her his seat. I love Italy.
Zedushka and I were on a train in Frankfurt, Germany with a bunch of luggage, and Zedushka had his cane. A bunch of kids were on the train. Nobody gave us a seat.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:50:11am |
re: #347 Alouette
Zedushka and I were on a train in Frankfurt, Germany with a bunch of luggage, and Zedushka had his cane. A bunch of kids were on the train. Nobody gave us a seat.
I don't love Germany. Something to do with FW-190's.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:51:05am |
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:52:42am |
re: #348 Decatur Deb
I don't love Germany. Something to do with FW-190's.
Germany is a terribly contradictory country. I find I like it better the closer to Munich I get but then again, I was there as a member of the US Army. It gives things a slightly different perspective when you're there wearing a high & tight vs. being a normal tourist ;)
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darthstar Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:53:27am |
re: #346 Decatur Deb
Was on a crowded city bus in Italy, a few seats back from a kid in studded leather jacket, Doc Martens, piercings, hair gel, the works. A 60-70 year old woman came down the aisle, and he gave her his seat. I love Italy.
Any kid who can afford all that crap probably comes from an upper middle class family. Back in my punk rock days, I dressed pretty "out there"...but I never forgot my manners. Mom wouldn't tolerate rudeness.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:53:40am |
re: #320 wlewisiii
1) "The Government" didn't get us into this deficit. Republican leaders of the government did by increasing spending and refusing to increase revenue by appropriate taxation.
2) I still trust any government agency more than I trust any insurance company I've ever had to deal with.
That's almost entirely accurate. I've said 183 times (count 'em/) that Bush increased spending by 104% during his 8 years and now Obama has matched that in just 2 short years. Almost all of those increases have nothing to do with non-discretionary spending.
Check out the graph in this article:
[Link: www.aolnews.com...]
Image: 1279146680723.JPEG
(notice that tax revenues remain roughly static over the last 50 years?)
and the tax revenues during the Bush years:
[Link: www.usgovernmentrevenue.com...]
Tax revenues during the Bush years increased (with the exception of 1 year), the problem wasn't that we weren't bringing in enough tax money but that we continually raised spending rates well above what we were bringing in. It's not about tax rates, it's never been about tax rates, it's about spending.
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garhighway Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:54:22am |
re: #298 RogueOne
Ouch:
Niall Ferguson Blasts Obama's Foreign Policy
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
Absolutely right.
We should have a strategic plan for every possibility of political turmoil for every country on Earth.
If the mayor of Madrid is slipping in the polls, we should have a plan.
Because it's all about us.
/
Seriously, we talk like we love democracy, but we sure as hell get wiggy when someone actually tries some, don't we?
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:55:42am |
re: #348 Decatur Deb
I don't love Germany. Something to do with FW-190's.
We had an 8-hour layover and thought we would leave the airport and do some sightseeing.
We were not dressed for the climate. It was late November and already snow flurries, and we were coming from Israel and had only light sweaters. Not much fun seeing the sights, and the lunch at the Jewish Community Center was way overpriced.
We did meet some interesting people. Everyone wanted to stop and chat with the Juden. At the Frankfurt JCC and synagogue (which is absolutely gorgeous, and worth the trouble of leaving the airport!) no one wanted to speak German. Preferred languages were Hebrew, Russian and English.
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darthstar Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:57:10am |
Heh...Sunday best took on a new meaning. My friend shot this pic yesterday on her walk to the beach. There's a close-up as well...the zipper that runs up the butt is also fairly transparent.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:57:41am |
re: #350 wlewisiii
Germany is a terribly contradictory country. I find I like it better the closer to Munich I get but then again, I was there as a member of the US Army. It gives things a slightly different perspective when you're there wearing a high & tight vs. being a normal tourist ;)
It's personal with me. If you google "fw-190", you get 4 images on the text page. The second one is a recreation of Gelb-11, which shot down the Decatur Deb 28 May 44.
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garhighway Mon, Feb 14, 2011 6:58:10am |
OT: today's Krugman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:00:19am |
re: #353 garhighway
We should have a strategic plan for every possibility of political turmoil for every country on Earth
Actually, as someone who had a relative rather high up in a previous state dept told me, we actually do!
No,, not for some dog catcher in East Dogwhistle Austria, but a plan/response for IF a world leader is deposed by opposition, be it through the ballot box or ousted by popular or military demand
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:01:01am |
re: #356 Decatur Deb
It's personal with me. If you google "fw-190", you get 4 images on the text page. The second one is a recreation of Gelb-11, which shot down the Decatur Deb 28 May 44.
Thank goodness you don't hold grudges!
/
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:01:17am |
OT: But what a goal for Manchester United. Wow!
[Link: deadspin.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:02:04am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:02:18am |
re: #353 garhighway
That is what we pay them for. It's bad enough not being on the ball but when you add to that the multiple contradictory stances and statements.....
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
The mixed messages have been confusing and at times embarrassing — a reflection of a policy that, by necessity, has been made up on the fly. “This is what happens when you get caught by surprise,” said one American official, who would not speak on the record. “We’ve had endless strategy sessions for the past two years on Mideast peace, on containing Iran. And how many of them factored in the possibility that Egypt,” and presumably whatever dominoes follow it, “moves from stability to turmoil? None.”
I know, I know, the NYT and the Daily Beast are both part of the right wing noise machine. No need for an AAR.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:03:06am |
re: #360 wlewisiii
OT: But what a goal for Manchester United. Wow!
[Link: deadspin.com...]
Bicycle kicks ALWAYS make the highlight reel
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:03:28am |
re: #359 sattv4u2
Thank goodness you don't hold grudges!
/
The joke is on me--I learned these details only in the last couple years. For decades I bore a grudge against the wrong country.
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andres Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:04:13am |
re: #61 calochortus
I did, it didn't post. Sometimes I hate being computer-challenged...
You're using Chrome, right? To the URL, add http :// (without the space in between.
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garhighway Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:05:31am |
re: #362 RogueOne
That is what we pay them for. It's bad enough not being on the ball but when you add to that the multiple contradictory stances and statements...
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
I know, I know, the NYT and the Daily Beast are both part of the right wing noise machine. No need for an AAR.
I agree that Wisner and Clinton went off-message in a stupid and embarrassing way.
To me, the right answer was pretty obvious: keep in close touch with the Egyptian military, with whom we have a deep relationship, and otherwise, just keep saying that we support democracy in Egypt, just like we do everywhere else. And then stay the hell out of the way, lest we screw things up.
Doing much more than that risks massive blowback.
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:08:51am |
re: #358 sattv4u2
I thought I had read that we do. So now Boehner wants an investigation as to why the US was caught "flat footed" in Egypt?
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:10:24am |
re: #362 RogueOne
That article is from 2/5. Things have changed.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:10:37am |
re: #355 darthstar
For some folks? Spandex. Is okie dokie.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:12:00am |
re: #369 prairiefire
I thought I had read that we do. So now Boehner wants an investigation as to why the US was caught "flat footed" in Egypt?
Ridiculous pol. I can't imagine a better outcome in Egypt, except for a lower body count.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:12:29am |
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:13:57am |
I'm getting this book for my hubby: "Stuntman" by Hal Needham[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]
He is 80 now!
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:14:29am |
re: #366 Decatur Deb
The joke is on me--I learned these details only in the last couple years. For decades I bore a grudge against the wrong country.
????
If you've told that story, I'm sorry I missed it.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:15:27am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:16:35am |
re: #377 sattv4u2
The student is now the TEACHER!
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:16:58am |
re: #368 garhighway
I would hope that if there was one thing the people in this country could agree on it's that we would always stand with whomever is putting their lives/well-being on the line in order to bring individual freedoms (freedom of religion/press/speech) to their country. Boiler-plate talk about "democracy" doesn't cut it, especially if the majority of the country in question believes apostates should get the death penalty. That's how you end up with Hamas/Hezbollah in charge. Rolling around in the hay with pieces of shit just to keep "stability" doesn't accomplish anything other than leaving you covered with crap.
Take a look at the beating the president took in that poll posted a few days ago:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
The people in those crowds that are out there fighting for freedom of speech/press will always remember that while the US talks a good game, when it comes down to it, we'll sit on the sidelines.
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Turkey Jihad Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:18:14am |
OT, sorry. Radiohead's new album "The King of Limbs" available this Saturday as a download. Longest five days of my life.
Your text to link...
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:19:17am |
re: #369 prairiefire
I thought I had read that we do. So now Boehner wants an investigation as to why the US was caught "flat footed" in Egypt?
Boehner and McConnell have both been supportive of the presidents stance on egypt. There isn't really much of a difference when it comes to foreign policy between the parties. They both prefer the status quo since it's "stable" and predictable.
Boehner credits Obama for handling of Egypt crisis
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:19:46am |
re: #375 wlewisiii
???
If you've told that story, I'm sorry I missed it.
Not much to it, My family knew nothing of the military, and told me dad went down in a B-29. They only flew against Japan. It is a sign of the real power of the internet that I have traced so much in the last couple years. (The pilot of the Gelb-11 lived a couple weeks more, was killed flying ground attack against the D-Day landings.) I might do a page for Memorial Day or 6 June.
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:20:02am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:21:59am |
re: #381 Obdicut
And we were supposed to do what?
Obama should have called on Mubarak to leave and he should make it clear that we believe people are born with the right to speak their minds and practice their religion and that a free press is essential in a democracy. When your choices are the individual freedoms crowd and the non I don't see why it's a difficult choice to pick a side.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:23:21am |
re: #381 Obdicut
And we were supposed to do what?
BTW, we've had this argument before during the Iran uprising. I want our president, regardless of party, to always (at a minimum) speak up in support of the individual rights of people regardless of where they reside.
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:24:42am |
re: #383 RogueOne
Boehner and McConnell have both been supportive of the presidents stance on egypt. There isn't really much of a difference when it comes to foreign policy between the parties. They both prefer the status quo since it's "stable" and predictable.
Boehner credits Obama for handling of Egypt crisis
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Hmm, yes you are right. I can't find the quote by google so I must have mis heard it on the am radio.
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:24:53am |
re: #386 RogueOne
Ah. So instead of standing around on the sidelines talking a good game, we should have stood around on the sidelines talking a good game in a slightly different way.
Great point.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:25:45am |
re: #384 Decatur Deb
Not much to it, My family knew nothing of the military, and told me dad went down in a B-29. They only flew against Japan. It is a sign of the real power of the internet that I have traced so much in the last couple years. (The pilot of the Gelb-11 lived a couple weeks more, was killed flying ground attack against the D-Day landings.) I might do a page for Memorial Day or 6 June.
Ah, that would do it. I thought maybe a confused bit in Europe - perhaps incorrectly thinking an Italian pilot or perhaps one of the ones shot down by mistake after straying over Switzerland.
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:26:17am |
re: #387 RogueOne
BTW, we've had this argument before during the Iran uprising. I want our president, regardless of party, to always (at a minimum) speak up in support of the individual rights of people regardless of where they reside.
And regardless of whether it will actually benefit those people.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:27:42am |
re: #349 sattv4u2
"You've got mail"
btw,,, I'll be sending you a recipe later today!
great!
You've got mail too.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:27:42am |
re: #389 Obdicut
Ah. So instead of standing around on the sidelines talking a good game, we should have stood around on the sidelines talking a good game in a slightly different way.
Great point.
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:28:17am |
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:28:55am |
re: #389 Obdicut
Ah. So instead of standing around on the sidelines talking a good game, we should have stood around on the sidelines talking a good game in a slightly different way.
Great point.
Once the shit hit the fan we even stopped talking the good talk. You don't think those young Egyptians will remember that?
This isn't anything new for us, we do this to everybody. For example, look at what happened after the first gulf war and how we've dealt with Iran. "You guys go ahead and revolt, we got your backs" and then when the shit hits the fan our tune changes to "Well, we didn't mean it literally. Good luck with all that".
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:31:13am |
re: #395 RogueOne
I think you rather missed the point. Your criticism was that we just stood around talking the good talk, but staying on the sidelines. I'm asking what you wanted us to do-- what would involve coming off of the sidelines?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:33:50am |
re: #396 Obdicut
I think you rather missed the point. Your criticism was that we just stood around talking the good talk, but staying on the sidelines. I'm asking what you wanted us to do-- what would involve coming off of the sidelines?
I see it's you that "missed the point"
what would involve coming off of the sidelines
Rogue stated it clearly
Reread the 1st 8 words of #386
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:36:02am |
re: #397 sattv4u2
I'm kind of baffled how more talk would involve coming off of the sidelines.
To me, shouting stuff is what you do from the sidelines.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:39:44am |
re: #398 Obdicut
I'm kind of baffled how more talk would involve coming off of the sidelines.
To me, shouting stuff is what you do from the sidelines.
Who said anything about "shouting" stuff?
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:41:26am |
re: #396 Obdicut
I think you rather missed the point. Your criticism was that we just stood around talking the good talk, but staying on the sidelines. I'm asking what you wanted us to do-- what would involve coming off of the sidelines?
I think we're getting our metaphors mixed. I want my government to support to those people who are pushing for individual freedoms. Not just in Egypt but everywhere. If that means giving them money then so be it. It's better, in my mind, to give the pro-freedoms crowd money for political uses than to give it to the government to buy tear gas.
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RogueOne Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:42:17am |
Valentines day festivities break is over. I have to get back to my spouse, enjoy the day people.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:42:39am |
[Link: www.rferl.org...]
Russia's political community is reeling over allegations by a court employee that high officials pressured a judge into convicting former oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky on fresh fraud charges.
An aide to the judge who presided over the recent trial of jailed former oil executive Mikhail Khodorkovsky says the court was pressured from above into delivering a guilty verdict.
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Obdicut Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:45:09am |
re: #400 RogueOne
Giving money to whom?
It's kind of baffling that you think, with the attitudes people have in the Middle East towards the US, that the US funding movements attempting to topple the government wouldn't have the rather obvious downside-- i.e. that they could simply be painted as pawns of the US.
If you're simply saying we shouldn't support tyrants, I'm on board with that. But the idea of 'getting off the sidelines' in the Middle East sounds great, but is really dim.
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:48:04am |
I posted this yesterday, but for those who missed, here is an excellent live blog of whats happening in Tehran.
[Link: www.pbs.org...]
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Ericus58 Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:50:10am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:51:52am |
re: #405 Ericus58
Gee... didn't see that coming...
I sure didn't. She's in a world of trouble now, though.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:55:50am |
Interestingly, Khodorkovsky's lawyers were sure that the verdict literally was not written by the Judge long before Vasilyeva's revelation.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:02:17am |
Uh oh. In Tehran they switched off the internet and cell phone networks.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:04:17am |
I hope that this time it works in Iran.
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prairiefire Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:05:09am |
re: #400 RogueOne
I think we're getting our metaphors mixed. I want my government to support to those people who are pushing for individual freedoms. Not just in Egypt but everywhere. If that means giving them money then so be it. It's better, in my mind, to give the pro-freedoms crowd money for political uses than to give it to the government to buy tear gas.
We gave Egypt a lot of money for a lot of years to essentially bribe them to not attack Israel.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:07:35am |
re: #410 prairiefire
We gave Egypt a lot of money for a lot of years to essentially bribe them to not
attackget their ass kicked by Israel.
fixd
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:08:51am |
re: #410 prairiefire
We gave Egypt a lot of money for a lot of years to essentially bribe them to not attack Israel.
Looks like all that money may have found its way to Mubarak's personal bank accounts.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:18:47am |
So... Lady Antebellum won a whole lot of awards last night at the Grammy's. Interesting turn our music industry is taking, awarding top honors to a musical group who's very name celebrates the racist south, before the civil war.
Antebellum, latin for "before the war" as per Wiki " Specifically, the era in the history of the United States after the American Revolution and the establishment of the U.S. as a sovereign nation, yet before the U.S. Civil War. "
The overt and covert racism in this country is running rampant. Everything from very public dismissals of our Presidents policies, to the clever, but not so hidden meaning of the name of a COUNTRY AND WESTERN group.
See the trend?
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BishopX Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:21:16am |
re: #413 Walter L. Newton
It's like the 1920s all over again.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:22:20am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:22:27am |
re: #414 BishopX
It's like the 1920s all over again.
Fine... fluff off my observation... but that doesn't change the overt racism in inherent in the name of that group.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:24:47am |
re: #416 Walter L. Newton
Fine... fluff off my observation... but that doesn't change the overt racism in inherent in the name of that group.
Maybe Lady Antebellum is named after a wife of one of the Roman Generals during the Punic wars? Why do you assume it is about the U.S.?
//
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:27:45am |
re: #412 Alouette
Not all of it, but enough to look real bad. I would significantly discount the claims that he pilfered the $40 billion or more at the top end, but wouldn't double that he squirreled away a couple billion dollars that should rightfully belong to the Egyptian people.
Same goes for many of the cronies connected with him and whatever shell companies and entities he established to shield his assets from scrutiny.
Problem is that there's little chance that the monies will be fully recovered but that shouldn't stop them from trying to collect.
It's interesting to see how many people view the military junta as a step towards democracy, when they could just as easily turn away and select another leader from among their own cadre. That they haven't done so and are saying all the right things to the Egyptian people and the various opposition leaders who have come to the bargaining table speaks actually quite well of their professionalism and dedication to the state and future of Egypt.
They're looking to begin discussions on a new constitution within a couple of weeks, which is a hopeful sign as well.
Now, if only they can figure out how to deal with the high unemployment, poor socio-economic conditions and the lack of economic opportunities to expand and preserve rights that we take for granted here in the US and the West. Those issues, which helped spark the demonstrations in the first place aren't so easy to go away - not when so much of the country lives in abject poverty.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:28:12am |
re: #413 Walter L. Newton
So... Lady Antebellum won a whole lot of awards last night at the Grammy's. Interesting turn our music industry is taking, awarding top honors to a musical group who's very name celebrates the racist south, before the civil war.
Antebellum, latin for "before the war" as per Wiki " Specifically, the era in the history of the United States after the American Revolution and the establishment of the U.S. as a sovereign nation, yet before the U.S. Civil War. "
The overt and covert racism in this country is running rampant. Everything from very public dismissals of our Presidents policies, to the clever, but not so hidden meaning of the name of a COUNTRY AND WESTERN group.
See the trend?
Did Justin Baby, er, Bieber, win anything? I turned off the show about 10 seconds after he started his infantile number.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:30:53am |
re: #419 Alouette
Did Justin Baby, er, Bieber, win anything? I turned off the show about 10 seconds after he started his infantile number.
I didn't watch any of it. Who is Justin Baby?
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:32:42am |
7:55 p.m. Imam Hossein Square in Tehran is currently the scene of clashes between protesters and security forces. And we can confirm that a protest took place today in the city of Rasht, on the Caspian Sea coast. To this point, that makes five cities where we can confirm protests have happened: Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Kermanshah, and Rasht.
[Link: www.pbs.org...]
Really want to hear from justaminute.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:32:42am |
re: #417 rwdflynavy
Maybe Lady Antebellum is named after a wife of one of the Roman Generals during the Punic wars? Why do you assume it is about the U.S.?
//
I was almost going to consider your proposition... until I googled some information and I can't find any Punic generals who had wives who were in any way associated with proto-roma ballads or barbarian war songs.
You were trying to trick me. Didn't work.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:33:56am |
re: #420 Walter L. Newton
I didn't watch any of it. Who is Justin Baby?
The juvenile alleged "phenom" who for some reason has attracted a following of hysterical pre-pubescents.
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:37:17am |
re: #423 Alouette
It's the hair.
Although I have to say that he managed to hold his own against Usher in the dance category - although both were trying to channel Michael Jackson during that routine...
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:38:54am |
The Iranian protesters are up against a regime that has shown itself to be able to brutally put down opposition with extreme prejudice, and they're already working from the same playbook.
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BishopX Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:43:16am |
re: #416 Walter L. Newton
Fine... fluff off my observation... but that doesn't change the overt racism in inherent in the name of that group.
I didn't mean to imply that Lady Antebellum wasn't an overtly racist name. The 1920s were a dark time in America's political history. The KKK marched on Washington, we instituted a disgustingly racist immigration system and the federal government crushed the American socialist party.
For me, saying something is like the 20's isn't a compliment.
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:43:58am |
re: #419 Alouette
We had the Grammys going on in the background while the Mrs. was reading the final book of the Steeg Larrson trilogy and I was playing on the 'puter. Only time I looked up was when Mumford and Sons came on and had a real unique sound - with real musical instruments. The collaboration with Dylan and that other band didn't work nearly as well b/c Dylan sounded awful (when his mic was actually working).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:44:05am |
Good Morning all!
Looks like I have another dog that has to go to the Vet --butt issues.
How has your morning been?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:44:48am |
re: #419 Alouette
Did Justin Baby, er, Bieber, win anything? I turned off the show about 10 seconds after he started his infantile number.
If the Grammys were truly saavy 30 seconds in Bieber would have disappeared in a sudden puff of sulferous smoke... and been replaced by Ozzy singing something suitably satanic.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:44:55am |
re: #427 lawhawk
We had the Grammys going on in the background while the Mrs. was reading the final book of the Steeg Larrson trilogy and I was playing on the 'puter. Only time I looked up was when Mumford and Sons came on and had a real unique sound - with real musical instruments. The collaboration with Dylan and that other band didn't work nearly as well b/c Dylan sounded awful (when his mic was actually working).
Dylan always sounded awful.
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:49:14am |
Watch out, Pigford is the new Acorn.
hmm, what do they have in common?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:53:49am |
White Nationalist Recruiter Rebuffed At CPAC
It's a nice start but I would be more impressed if they did this with Youth for Western Civilization and the John Birch Society, both of which were sponsors of CPAC. They only objected because he's an old school racist and doesn't know how to use the softer modern code words.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:55:21am |
re: #249 simoom
From Fox Nation:
Horseman of Apocalypse Shows up in Cairo?
I have no words... :P
REALLY?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 14, 2011 8:59:14am |
re: #433 ggt
REALLY?
Yeah, that story was floating around WND and David Ike type sites a few weeks ago.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:00:34am |
re: #430 Alouette
Dylan always sounded awful.
Great song writer and lyricist. Awful voice. It's was pretty bad forty years ago and all the smoking he did did nothing to improve it since then. My brother has gotten bootleg tapes of concerts of his and says that he is essentially impossible to listen to live, and has been for at least a decade.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:03:56am |
I missed the Grammys. Didn't even know they were on.
I'm not regretting it either.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:06:05am |
re: #435 oaktree
Great song writer and lyricist. Awful voice. It's was pretty bad forty years ago and all the smoking he did did nothing to improve it since then. My brother has gotten bootleg tapes of concerts of his and says that he is essentially impossible to listen to live, and has been for at least a decade.
A singer he was not.
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:08:03am |
Wow, check out this cartoon.
Add it to the file of ODS, worse than we've ever seen.
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:08:53am |
Confirmed: China Has World's No. 2 Economy; Passes Japan
""China passed Japan in 2010 to become the world's second-largest economy after the U.S.," The Wall Street Journal writes, adding that this is "a historic shift that has drawn mixed emotions in the two Asian powers: resignation tinged with soul-searching in long-stagnant Japan, pride but also caution in an ascendant China wary of shouldering new global responsibilities."
The Journal says "the Japanese government made official the long-expected flip Monday morning in Tokyo, reporting that the economy shrank at a 1.1 percent annual rate for the last three months of the year, a period when China's gross domestic product surged 9.8 percent from a year earlier. With those figures, Japan's full-year GDP was $5.47 trillion — about 7 percent smaller than the $5.88 trillion China reported in January."
America's GDP is approaching $15 trillion annually. And as the Brookings Institution reminded everyone over the weekend, on a per capita basis the U.S. economy is even further ahead of China's. In 2009, U.S. per capital GDP was nearly $42,000. China's was about $6,200."
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:09:56am |
re: #438 Stanley Sea
Wow, check out this cartoon.
Add it to the file of ODS, worse than we've ever seen.
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
WTF? Leave the FLOTUS alone.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:12:12am |
re: #438 Stanley Sea
Wow, check out this cartoon.
Add it to the file of ODS, worse than we've ever seen.
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
Vulgar - check.
Dumb - check.
Not funny - check.
The Trifecta!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:13:15am |
From my facebook, a message from Planned Parenthood:
Friends, we are sure glad you love us...cuz we need you to show the love TODAY. The House of Reps is deciding whether or not to cut Title X funding, particularly for Planned Parenthood. That's money for pap smears and birth control and everything good. It's HUGE and we need you! Take action right now and please spread the word.
[Link: www.ppaction.org...]
www.ppaction.org
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:15:34am |
Gotta Go!
Happy Valentines Day everyone!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:15:37am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:16:08am |
The comments are a hoot too. And look at the karma there. The smaller the karma, the saner the person, and vice versa.
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:18:45am |
re: #445 Sergey Romanov
The comments are a hoot too. And look at the karma there. The smaller the karma, the saner the person, and vice versa.
Gah
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:21:54am |
re: #445 Sergey Romanov
The comments are a hoot too. And look at the karma there. The smaller the karma, the saner the person, and vice versa.
Comments where?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:22:54am |
re: #447 Alouette
Breitbart's place.
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Varek Raith Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:22:57am |
re: #249 simoom
From Fox Nation:
Horseman of Apocalypse Shows up in Cairo?
I have no words... :P
Come on!
Can't a guy enjoy his vacation?!
Even us evil types need downtime!
Sheesh.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:32:45am |
re: #419 Alouette
Did Justin Baby, er, Bieber, win anything? I turned off the show about 10 seconds after he started his infantile number.
My niece Facebooked that she was going to see the Justin Bieber movie.
I told her that God would forgive her, but only because she is a teenage girl.
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:39:13am |
re: #449 Varek Raith
Did someone call out the Horsemen? (metallica live - cussing is present).
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Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, Feb 14, 2011 11:00:48am |
re: #413 Walter L. Newton
So... Lady Antebellum won a whole lot of awards last night at the Grammy's. Interesting turn our music industry is taking, awarding top honors to a musical group who's very name celebrates the racist south, before the civil war.
Antebellum, latin for "before the war" as per Wiki " Specifically, the era in the history of the United States after the American Revolution and the establishment of the U.S. as a sovereign nation, yet before the U.S. Civil War. "
The overt and covert racism in this country is running rampant. Everything from very public dismissals of our Presidents policies, to the clever, but not so hidden meaning of the name of a COUNTRY AND WESTERN group.
See the trend?
The East German judge gives this troll a 1.2.
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