Hoft, Geller, and McCain Race to the Bottom in Lara Logan Posts

Misogyny, paranoia, and persecution complexes
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The reaction of some right wing bloggers to the assault suffered by CBS News reporter Lara Logan is utterly repulsive. Some of these people are actually gloating over the attack.

DERPJim “Dim” Hoft leads the pack with a stupidly offensive and ugly post that manages to pack bigotry, misogyny, and general sociopathy into just a few moronic sentences: After Sexual Assault & Beating… CBS Reporter Logan Learns That Political Correctness Is a Killer | The Gateway Pundit.

Hoft, of course, thinks Logan is a liberal feminist who was asking for it.

Lara Logan is lucky she’s alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.

Why did this attractive blonde female reporter wander into Tahrir Square last Friday? Why would she think this was a good idea? Did she not see the violence in the square the last three weeks? Did she not see the rock throwing? Did she miss the camels? Did her colleagues tell her about the Western journalists who were viciously assaulted on the Square? Did she forget about the taunts from the Egyptian thugs the day before? What was she thinking? Was it her political correctness that about got her killed? Did she think things would be different for her?

“I ♥ Muslims.”Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller discovers yet another conspiracy by the evil media, to cover up “the vile Islamic anti-semitism at the heart of Islam,” and help the stealth Islamic jihad supremacists take over Egypt: ‘60 Minutes’ Lara Logan was Repeatedly Raped by Egyptian Mob Yelling, ‘Jew, Jew! Jew!’ - Atlas Shrugs

Geller wants President Obama to make a statement condemning the vile heart of Islam. I guess she forgot that Obama’s supposed to be a sekrit Moslem Manchurian usurper himself.

This horrible story gets worse and worse. Worse still, CBS tried to keep the whole thing quiet and was forced to get in front of the story only when it became widely known that other media outlets were on to it. Who are they covering for?

And why? Because the false narrative the media is painting of what is going on in Egypt is patently false, and this brutal sex attack points to something else entirely.

The NY Post is the only news outlet reporting that the Muslims raping her were shouting “Jew, Jew, Jew.” Obama should make a statement addressing this horror and condemning the vile Islamic anti-semitism at the heart of Islam.

“You buy the ticket, you take the ride.”Knuckle-dragging neo-Confederate Robert Stacy McCain, meanwhile, assumes the standard right wing persecution pose, and whines and complains that people criticize him when he spews misogynistic comments: Paging Jill Filipovic : The Other McCain

McCain is singling out Jill Filipovic because his fragile white supremacist’s ego is still damaged from his last encounter with her, when he said about victims of date rape, “You buy the ticket, you take the ride.”

Please tell me what I am permitted to say when a gang of Egyptian men celebrates the end of the Mubarak regime by sexually assaulting an American TV news reporter…

I suppose any sign of sympathy is too much to ask.

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224 comments
1 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:52:31am

Nothing says classy quite like attacking a rape victim.

2 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:55:01am

I think Debbie's postings should be included with this.

Vile Creatures all.

3 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:56:30am

Just when you think they can't stoop to a new low. Wingnut bloggers manage to outdo themselves every day. The only way to describe them is as "stark raving crazy".

4 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:56:44am

It's great this is all documented and organized all in one place (LGF). When I get asked why I'm gone from the GOP and maybe even conservatism a few links such as these should make my point for me.

5 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:57:29am

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?

6 McSpiff  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:58:09am

re: #3 Gus 802

Just when you think they can't stoop to a new low. Wingnut bloggers manage to outdo themselves every day. The only way to describe them is as "stark raving crazy".

Attacking a rape victim gets you a few extra labels with that...

7 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:58:17am

They say this shit to get attention. It worked.

Catch you in the next thread.

8 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:58:20am

In the words of Cyrus the Virus, "These people are somewhere between pond scum and that white stuff that collects on the corner of your mouth when you sleep."

Sick, sick people.

9 Girth  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:59:09am

Note to all men writing about a rape victim. If what you have to say boils down to "she was asking for it," go fuck yourself.

10 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:59:20am

re: #5 harald

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?

I'll wait for someone other than The New York Post to report on it before I'll believe it.

11 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 11:59:49am

re: #5 harald

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?

Yeah, that's the report.

12 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:00:10pm

Does anyone actually know what Logan's politics are?

13 Lidane  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:00:26pm

re: #9 Girth

Note to all men writing about a rape victim. If what you have to say boils down to "she was asking for it," go fuck yourself.

That gets multiplied by infinity if the writer is a woman.

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:01:19pm

re: #5 harald

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?

I frankly would not be surprised if that detail were true, however I'd wait until someone other than the New York Post prints it to actually take it for fact. They're a little--excitable--at the Post.

15 Lidane  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:01:24pm

re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist

Does anyone actually know what Logan's politics are?

Nope. All these assholes are just assuming they know because she is a reporter for CBS. That's the "lamestream" media, so she's clearly a filthy librul.

16 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:01:28pm

You would think that attractive women would know by now they shouldn't leave the house.

///

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:01:43pm

re: #9 Girth

Note to all men writing about a rape victim. If what you have to say boils down to "she was asking for it," go fuck yourself.

Women too.

18 S'latch  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:02:03pm

If CBS really did try to keep this quiet, I suspect it was for the benefit of this poor reporter.

19 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:02:09pm

re: #10 Romantic Heretic

I'll wait for someone other than The New York Post to report on it before I'll believe it.

Excactly.

20 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:03:07pm

re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist

Does anyone actually know what Logan's politics are?


....she works for CBS....HELLO!/////
...price of tea in China??

21 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:05:45pm

re: #15 Lidane

Nope. All these assholes are just assuming they know because she is a reporter for CBS. That's the "lamestream" media, so she's clearly a filthy librul.

I'm still shocked on the stupidity on display.

Just a few news cycles ago rationale people thought that a nutter who shot a congresswoman might be influenced by heated rhetoric, the majority of which seems to come from Teabaggia.

These same pundits attacked the rationale people for making assumptions while at the same time pointing out that there is no connection but that there is a lot of left wing violence.

And these people get paid to write on blogs and have followers. MegaDerp Hurr Hurr Zombies.

22 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:07:07pm

It is a shame anyone felt they had to report it at all.....
Hard to insure the privacy of the victim under these circumstances...

23 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:07:24pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You would think that attractive women would know by now they shouldn't leave the house.

///

I shall remove the sarc tags: how dare women become attractive to anyone other than their husband. They should cover up out in public.

Yeah, I just went there.

24 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:08:41pm

re: #23 BigPapa

...you forgot barefoot and bun in oven reference!//
*duck*

25 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:09:26pm

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

I frankly would not be surprised if that detail were true, however I'd wait until someone other than the New York Post prints it to actually take it for fact. They're a little--excitable--at the Post.

People should also keep in mind that Logan was "rescued" by Egyptian women (I read 20 this morning) and members of the Egyptian army.

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:09:30pm

re: #22 reloadingisnotahobby

It is a shame anyone felt they had to report it at all...
Hard to insure the privacy of the victim under these circumstances...

True, but I also doubt she was the only woman assaulted in the crowd, and she may be the only one whose story makes it to the press.

27 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:10:28pm

Why am I not surprised in the least that those 3 bottom feeders would say something like this?

28 Slap  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:11:09pm

re: #18 Lawrence Schmerel

That was precisely what I heard on a local CBS affiliate. If I'm not mistaken, their official statement said as much, referring to the family of the victim's desire for some degree of privacy.

29 Lidane  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:11:17pm

re: #21 BigPapa

I'm still shocked on the stupidity on display.

I'm not. As a liberal and a woman, I've seen this kind of shit for years. It's not new. The only thing that's changed is that the Internet makes all this garbage more accessible and gives it a higher profile.

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:11:55pm

re: #25 Gus 802

People should also keep in mind that Logan was "rescued" by Egyptian women (I read 20 this morning) and members of the Egyptian army.

And thank God for them.

//I don't like feeling positively toward the Egyptian military. 'Tain't natural.

31 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:12:02pm

...the nerve...someone stuck thier head in the door and ask me to do
something!!!
...Gotta go.........
Hope it's not HEAVY!

32 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:12:05pm

To add something nice to this thread. Many Egyptians are of course upset about this. Many Egyptians are actually calling for something to be done about it. Not just in bringing the perpetrators to justice but dealing with the over all attitudes and social issues that allow this sort of thing. Much like many women and men call for here.

There is talk about organizing a protest or march.

Then there are things like this.

[Link: www.change.org...]

Sexual harassment is one of the ugliest forms of mental & physical abuse. The effects of which can be long lasting and severely harmful to the mental health of those who suffer this abuse. It remains to be one of the last standing tarnishing factors on the reuptation of Egypt

With our new found "freedom" from an intrinsically opressive system, it is now high time to call for a legal end to this sickening phenomenon.Time to take this revolutionary Tahrir spirit to the streets of the nation to quell the very notion of sexual harassment. Time to make this an offence severely punishable by law.

When, as a nation, we called to "bring down the system", this is the exact sort of thing we were calling for. Not just the dismantling of an ailing, opressive political system, but also the vile, rotten systems of thought and action within a few, perverted Egyptians.

It is safe to say that after witnessing the pure spirit of Tahrir, this sickening phenomenon represents only a few terrible seeds in society. Seeds that have turned into devilish shrubs, that must now be weeded out, for good. True Egyptians were protecting their sisters, wives, daughters and ladies they don't even know in the fight to earn our freedom. The Egyptians that stood up to bullets, tear gas, knives, swords, thugs, sniper fire and petrol bombs can and will stand against sexual harassment

Please add your voice to this peitition, pledging to not accept and to take action against any forms of sexual harasssment. In addition, it will also serve as an apology of the people to each and every single person that has suffered from this. Most recently CBS reporter Lara Logan.

Lara Logan, I apologize sincerely with all my heart

To every girl, woman, mother harassed, I apologize sincerely with all my heart

To my mother nation Egypt, I apologize sincerely with all my heart

& promise you all that I will try the very best that I can to bring an end to this, in the quest to have our sisters "Walk Free"

Thank You

33 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:12:39pm

Gawd, I have to lay off the coffee or re-read my posts, so much garmer erors. I'm not even drunk!

At least I can still think logically and order of magnitude above very faulty reasoning of many of these 'respected right wing bloggers.'

I'm just waiting for any of my conservative FB friends to post a link from any of these scoundrels, they'll get hammered. Either they accept the broadside or they'll have to disconnect with me because I will be relentless.

34 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:13:52pm

re: #32 Jadespring

Also the comments on the petition are worth reading. Lots from Egyptian women who are quite candid about how they feel.

35 lostlakehiker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:14:42pm

The tacit assumption in most of the coverage is that the attack on Logan was the work of those celebrating the fall of Mubarak. But that doesn't make sense. Every other attack on reporters came from the pro-M side. It was Mubarak and his claque that were claiming that reporters were meddling in Egyptian affairs and that ordinary Egyptians loved M.

You don't celebrate a win by raping those who just helped you win and are now helping you broadcast your victory party.

As to the cause being that Logan was PC-blind, that's cruel. Logan had to have known that she was risking everything. So were all the reporters. They covered the story anyway because unless the risk is prohibitive, that's what reporters do. They report.

She, and the rest of them and their crews, deserve a salute.

36 webevintage  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:15:32pm

I am just ENRAGED by some of the responses to her attack...let alone the attack on Logan herself.

Either it is her fault for being pretty or white or losing her crew or being an uppity woman who thinks she can do a dude's job or because she's a lib (? who knows Logan is not even American) or her sex life (yeah, really the LA Times blog had to go into her sex life)..... I could go on and on.

or it is the fault of CBS....why did they send a woman of all people to Egypt. Never mind Logan is seriously experienced at reporting from dangerous places. From what I understand she left London and traveled on her own to get to Afghanistan when the war started.

Or it is because Muslim brown men are unable to control themselves as if gang rape never happens in Western countries with large Christan populations.

The last month has been one big "fuck you" to women from the GOP and now this story brings out all the "fairer sex" shit and "what did she expect" shit.

It just never ends.....

and I have a feeling CBS only released the story after Logan gave her permission.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:16:33pm

re: #35 lostlakehiker

The tacit assumption in most of the coverage is that the attack on Logan was the work of those celebrating the fall of Mubarak. But that doesn't make sense. Every other attack on reporters came from the pro-M side. It was Mubarak and his claque that were claiming that reporters were meddling in Egyptian affairs and that ordinary Egyptians loved M.

You don't celebrate a win by raping those who just helped you win and are now helping you broadcast your victory party.

As to the cause being that Logan was PC-blind, that's cruel. Logan had to have known that she was risking everything. So were all the reporters. They covered the story anyway because unless the risk is prohibitive, that's what reporters do. They report.

She, and the rest of them and their crews, deserve a salute.

Well said on all points.

People who do this kind of reporting are not naive. They know the risks, and they take them.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:17:47pm

I keep thinking that her crew must be feeling incredibly guilty about this. Not their fault--but I would feel like hell if this had happened to a reporter I was working with.

39 lostlakehiker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:19:12pm

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

And thank God for them.

//I don't like feeling positively toward the Egyptian military. 'Tain't natural.

:-)

This military has conducted itself honorably from the start of the demonstrations up to the current day. Not that this is unalloyed good news for Israel. An honorable military that has earned the trust of the nation is that much stronger for it.

40 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:19:27pm

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

Well said on all points.

People who do this kind of reporting are not naive. They know the risks, and they take them.

Daniel Pearl found that out all too well...

41 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:19:46pm

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but I also doubt she was the only woman assaulted in the crowd, and she may be the only one whose story makes it to the press.

Yes. But if it is true that multiple men repeatedly raped an American reporter in the middle of the square while shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!" I would say this story is quite exceptionally horrendous.

The more I think about it, the angrier I get. Those piss-ant bloggers mentioned above can go fuck themselves, but the men who assaulted her - different league of evil.

42 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:22:31pm

re: #34 Jadespring

Also the comments on the petition are worth reading. Lots from Egyptian women who are quite candid about how they feel.

It sounds as if the Egyptian women are sick and tired of being sick and tired.

43 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:23:08pm

Monsters the whole lof of them: Her rapists, teh right wing assholes saying she deserved it, and their douchebag commenters. I've had enough of right wing shitheads saying that the left is hateful then they post shit like this.

44 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:23:17pm

Don't any of these men have sisters, wives, mothers?

And the women, what excuse do they have for their complete lack of decency & compassion? Do they not realize it could just as easily happen to them in the cities where they live??

re: #23 BigPapa

I shall remove the sarc tags: how dare women become attractive to anyone other than their husband. They should cover up out in public.

Yeah, I just went there.

Oh, it gets worse than that. I had a Pakistani guy tell me once how when he was much younger (and stupider) some guy kept stalking his sister, following her home form school, trying to talk to her, etc. When she told him about it because it was scaring her, he said he slapped her.

Utterly confused, I asked him why in the hell he'd done that. His response was, "Because I assumed she must've been doing SOMETHING to encourage him, otherwise he wouldn't have kept bothering her." My head almost exploded on the spot. Of course, by the time he was relaying the story to me he realized that he'd been wrong, but sheesh. Talk about an eye-opener.

In any event, it was exactly the same sort of misogynistic thinking that's on display today by these vile bloggers, right here in the good old US of A.

45 lostlakehiker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:23:38pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep thinking that her crew must be feeling incredibly guilty about this. Not their fault--but I would feel like hell if this had happened to a reporter I was working with.

Yeah...it'd feel like having been on the launch crew for Challenger 13. On a bad day, you go around wanting to puke. On a really bad day, you have to go to the book of Job for words.

The crew wasn't made of supermen. Sometimes the odds are just impossible.

46 mr.fusion  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:24:27pm
Worse still, CBS tried to keep the whole thing quiet and was forced to get in front of the story only when it became widely known that other media outlets were on to it. Who are they covering for?

The victim Pam.....they were covering for the victim

47 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:24:44pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep thinking that her crew must be feeling incredibly guilty about this. Not their fault--but I would feel like hell if this had happened to a reporter I was working with.

Before this incident, she and her crew were detained and arrested by the military:[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

48 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:27:24pm

re: #32 Jadespring

To add something nice to this thread. Many Egyptians are of course upset about this. Many Egyptians are actually calling for something to be done about it. Not just in bringing the perpetrators to justice but dealing with the over all attitudes and social issues that allow this sort of thing. Much like many women and men call for here.

There is talk about organizing a protest or march.

Then there are things like this.

[Link: www.change.org...]

I fully believe that the animals who did this were either security forces in civilian cloths, recently released/escaped prisoners orpro-Mubarak supporters.

49 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:28:10pm

re: #29 Lidane

I'm not. As a liberal and a woman, I've seen this kind of shit for years. It's not new. The only thing that's changed is that the Internet makes all this garbage more accessible and gives it a higher profile.

I think it's a combination of things, at least for me. I don't think I was as sensitive to this stuff before being in other circles and mindsets. Add to that, maybe when it did bubble up I did not give it the heed I should have or laughed it off. I have a touch of shame about it.

On top of that I think it really is coming all out now. People are really getting their freak on, it is heightened.

This recent 'blame Lara' outburst is another big moment for me reviewing what conservatism is and where I stand. Possibly, moving from passively acknowledging I was a GOP voter and conservative to active deprecation for being influenced by all that bullshit for so many years.

What's worse? A liberal, or an ex-conservative who rejected the GOP after becoming 'too conservative?'

What is happening is akin to the guy at the party who tells off color race jokes about 'black people.' After some laughs and no rejection, they get a little worse. After further lack of pushback, they turn into outright 'n*****' jokes. This is happening on a grand scale, on the order of thousands and millions. It's very depressing.

50 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:29:05pm

re: #44 CuriousLurker

Don't any of these men have sisters, wives, mothers?

And the women, what excuse do they have for their complete lack of decency & compassion? Do they not realize it could just as easily happen to them in the cities where they live??

In any event, it was exactly the same sort of misogynistic thinking that's on display today by these vile bloggers, right here in the good old US of A.

Yep. Birds of a feather.

51 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:30:31pm

re: #48 Ericus58

I fully believe that the animals who did this were either security forces in civilian cloths, recently released/escaped prisoners orpro-Mubarak supporters.

I'm not sure there's really any reason to believe this.

'Bad guys' aren't responsible for every bad act. And 'good guys' aren't always total angels. Humans can do horrible things whether motivated by anger or euphoria. Just because we pick one side as the good guys and one as the bad guys doesn't mean it really is that way, or that one side is responsible for every terrible thing.

52 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:30:45pm

re: #5 harald

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?


From what I'm reading, only the NY Post (a murdock rag) is reporting that and that's because "a network source" told them. So, really, no idea what the truth is since nobody will put their name to it (I'd like to know why they wouldn't want their name but that's just me).

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:30:46pm

re: #42 EmmmieG

It sounds as if the Egyptian women are sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Stuff like this can be a teaching moment. I bet a lot of Egyptian men are saying "What monsters. Where do people like this come from?" and their wives and sisters are saying, "Right down the street. Let's talk about some stuff that didn't catch your attention when it wasn't the whole country being embarassed in front of the world."

54 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:33:04pm

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

Stuff like this can be a teaching moment. I bet a lot of Egyptian men are saying "What monsters. Where do people like this come from?" and their wives and sisters are saying, "Right down the street. Let's talk about some stuff that didn't catch your attention when it wasn't the whole country being embarassed in front of the world."

If what I've seen on things like twitter is an example of what others are saying then you would be correct in your assessment. Many woman are saying it.

55 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:36:23pm

OK. Why did I suddenly get 9 conservative followers on Twitter? At least I think they are. Just out of the blue. Weird.

56 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:37:53pm

re: #55 Gus 802

OK. Why did I suddenly get 9 conservative followers on Twitter? At least I think they are. Just out of the blue. Weird.

Heh, you must've tweeted something that got their attention.

57 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:39:19pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

Heh, you must've tweeted something that got their attention.

Maybe. I rarely make any comments. Just links. It went from 50 followers to 60 within 15 minutes it seems.

58 mr.fusion  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:39:21pm

re: #55 Gus 802

OK. Why did I suddenly get 9 conservative followers on Twitter? At least I think they are. Just out of the blue. Weird.

Must've been that "show us the birth certificate!!11!!!1" tweet you sent out

59 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:40:18pm

re: #57 Gus 802

Maybe. I rarely make any comments. Just links. It went from 50 followers to 60 within 15 minutes it seems.

That is pretty good. Jesus had only 12. And one turned out to be no good.

60 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:40:24pm

I will retweet David Frum from time to time. :) I like Frum.

61 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:42:30pm

re: #5 harald

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?

I don't know why it would matter. Fucking rapists happen to be rabid anti-semites: dog bites man.

Not to diminish antisemitism, but why is this of any real relevance?

62 darthstar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:49:23pm

McCain, Hoft, and Geller are three seriously fucked up people.

63 CuriousLurker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:50:35pm

re: #60 Gus 802

I will retweet David Frum from time to time. :) I like Frum.

He's one of the few conservative I read on a regular basis.

64 darthstar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:51:05pm

re: #5 harald

Admittedly, I have not been following this story closely, but were they really shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!"?

If Geller is reporting it, there's a good chance it's bullshit. And even if it's true, it's simply further indication that Mubarak's absence will be a good thing.

65 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:52:16pm

re: #41 harald

Yes. But if it is true that multiple men repeatedly raped an American reporter in the middle of the square while shouting "Jew! Jew! Jew!" I would say this story is quite exceptionally horrendous.

The story might be true, but at this point the only source for it is the New York Post, and that makes it questionable.

It wouldn't be surprising that thugs and criminals who rape and beat women are also antisemites. But it also wouldn't be surprising if the Post report is exaggerated or outright wrong.

66 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:55:54pm

re: #61 BigPapa

I don't know why it would matter. Fucking rapists happen to be rabid anti-semites: dog bites man.

Not to diminish antisemitism, but why is this of any real relevance?

There were reports from Alexandria, starting around Jan. 28, I think, that the crowds were being told that all the journalists, no matter where they were from, were Israeli spies and/or Jews.

I hope the majority of Egyptians realize that they were taught antisemitism so that it could be used as a tool against themselves. Journalists were the best friends to would-be revolutionaries at that point, and if the guys in power could get the masses to turn on the journalists, what a victory for the fascists.

Whether that was any part of this attack is irrelevant, in my opinion. It would be another example of antisemitism being incidental to the events, if true, and incidental to the reports, if untrue.

67 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:58:18pm

Never fails. I can sit by my desk for 5 hours straight, no calls. I leave for 15 minutes and the one guy I've been waiting on calls and leaves a message.

68 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 12:59:39pm

On another note, LGF has been very slow the past couple of days. Other sites are normal, but this one takes a very long time to load, and frequently fails. It seems to be mostly the Pages and/or Top and Bottom Comments that hangs, or hitting the 'New Comments' button.

69 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:00:50pm

OT...

The lone survivor of that infamous Somali pirate incident of 2009 was sentenced to 33 years.

Somali pirate sentenced to 33 years in US prison

He'll be released when he's 54 years old or in the year 2044.

70 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:01:11pm

Anyone who would gloat about the attack suffered by Lara Logan is loathsome and a total asshole. I have a great deal of trouble imagining how anyone who claims to have morals and values can possibly think attacking Ms Logan is anything other than a criminal act to be 100% condemned.

71 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:05:17pm

Speaking of Pamela Geller, she (and her chums in the EDL) feature prominently in this new BBC expose of Geert Wilders:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

72 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:06:18pm

on a personal note ..... my family is on the way to London tonight to see our son who is studying there. we'll be back next week. will try to check in with weather reports from the UK or something :)

73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:07:17pm

re: #66 wrenchwench


I hope the majority of Egyptians realize that they were taught antisemitism so that it could be used as a tool against themselves. Journalists were the best friends to would-be revolutionaries at that point, and if the guys in power could get the masses to turn on the journalists, what a victory for the fascists.

Kind of like how ther right wing/Faux News works to turn people against the so-called "liberal media". An uninformed populace is very pliable...

74 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:07:31pm

re: #72 _RememberTonyC

on a personal note ... my family is on the way to London tonight to see our son who is studying there. we'll be back next week. will try to check in with weather cricket reports from the UK or something :)

FTFY!

75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:07:41pm

re: #9 Girth

Note to all men writing about a rape victim. If what you have to say boils down to "she was asking for it," go fuck yourself.

well, it's informative when they say stuff like that, because then you know what vicious place they're coming from, and you can just discard them summarily

76 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:09:14pm

re: #73 dreggas

Kind of like how ther right wing/Faux News works to turn people against the so-called "liberal media". An uninformed populace is very pliable...

You know who is really good at that? Limbaugh. He has regular working class people thinking that the Republican Party is their friend and Savior.

77 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:09:38pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

FTFY!


Thanks Wrenchwench ..... actually, i was hoping to catch a soccer (football) match while in the UK :)

78 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:10:18pm

Hasta later.

79 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:10:33pm

re: #77 _RememberTonyC

Thanks Wrenchwench ... actually, i was hoping to catch a soccer (football) match while in the UK :)

I've seen curling, now I want to see cricket!

80 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:11:03pm

re: #78 Gus 802

Hasta later.

We're ships passing in the night! :(
See you soon I hope.

81 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:11:14pm

Oh. And before I leave....

Winny Spencer. I apologize for calling you an a-hole yesterday. I could have worded it differently.

82 Gus  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:11:53pm

re: #80 iceweasel

We're ships passing in the night! :(
See you soon I hope.

Later Iceweasel!

Hold the fort. ;)

83 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:15:05pm

re: #62 darthstar

McCain, Hoft, and Geller are three seriously fucked up people.

now think of all the people who read them with devoted eyes every day!

84 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:17:06pm

re: #83 WindUpBird

They've gotta have their haterade and shots of rageahol.

85 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:17:28pm

Andy Carvin

RT @chanadbh: Good photos of the day from Lulu Roundabout: [Link: bit.ly...] #Bahrain #Feb14

Really good photos

86 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:18:14pm

re: #71 Jimmah

Speaking of Pamela Geller, she (and her chums in the EDL) feature prominently in this new BBC expose of Geert Wilders:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Watched it. Sadly the documentary makers beclown themselves by giving a platform to and relying on the testimony of noted Islamist Shaykh Khalid Yasin.
Not too mention the insinuation towards the end that perhaps Wilders is really an Israeli spy working for the evil Zionists.

Just dreadful, not to mention a missed opportunity.

87 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:19:31pm

re: #81 Gus 802

Oh. And before I leave...

Winny Spencer. I apologize for calling you an a-hole yesterday. I could have worded it differently.

If I may address you again: no problem.

88 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:20:41pm

TP surprise: House votes to eliminate F-35 alternate engine, threatening 1000 jobs in Rep Boehner's district. Mr Boehner does not say "So be it."

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

89 recusancy  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:25:03pm

Holy shit! This is a libertarian I can agree with. All "fiscal hawks" should read it.

Is inflation out of control? No, not even close. Are our creditors closing our accounts? No, because our creditors know that all we need to do to pay them off is raise taxes or get out of this recession. When growth picks back up deficits will shrink. The deficit is not a problem in the first place. The whole thing is just a ruse.

Meanwhile, unemployment remains sky-high and so do corporate profits. Everything is rosy except for the American worker, and to them fiscal conservatives and pundits like Sullivan say “Austerity Now” like some grotesque mimicry of that Seinfeld episode. All the hand-wringing over structural unemployment and so forth is just cover for supply-side nonsense that’s captured the American psyche from pundit and politician on down. What we are witnessing is a balance-sheet recession and a crisis of demand. Or at least that’s what all the evidence and data points to.

90 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:26:30pm
This talented reporter will never be the same.

Thank you, Jim Hoft, for perpetrating the notion that rape 'ruins' women, and letting Lara Logan in on the scoop about her recovery.

What a tool.

91 Four More Tears  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:26:58pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

TP surprise: House votes to eliminate F-35 alternate engine, threatening 1000 jobs in Rep Boehner's district. Mr Boehner does not say "So be it."

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

You mean the F-35 engine that the military doesn't even want? Oh the horror.

92 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:27:48pm

re: #91 JasonA

You mean the F-35 engine that the military doesn't even want? Oh the horror.

Why does the House hate America?
/

93 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:29:40pm

re: #89 recusancy

Holy shit! This is a libertarian I can agree with. All "fiscal hawks" should read it.

You're not the only one!

94 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:30:15pm

re: #90 iceweasel

Thank you, Jim Hoft, for perpetrating the notion that rape 'ruins' women, and letting Lara Logan in on the scoop about her recovery.

What a tool.

That notion has appeared all too commonly today and yesterday.

However, the use of "tool" as a pejorative isn't much better...

/

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:31:22pm

re: #90 iceweasel

Thank you, Jim Hoft, for perpetrating the notion that rape 'ruins' women, and letting Lara Logan in on the scoop about her recovery.

What a tool.

He's almost a parody of a scumbag

96 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:31:39pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

TP surprise: House votes to eliminate F-35 alternate engine, threatening 1000 jobs in Rep Boehner's district. Mr Boehner does not say "So be it."

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Let me take three guesses as to his reaction...

97 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:31:54pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

From the AP:

"The win by Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates was a switch from where the House stood last year under Democratic control. It reflected a sustained administration push to win over the votes of scores of Republican freshmen elected last fall on campaign promises to cut the budget.

Many taxpayer watchdog groups also weighed in against the engine program, slated to cost $3 billion over the next few years and $450 million this year alone.

The 233-198 tally was a loss for House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, whose state reaps about 1,000 jobs from the engine program, built by the General Electric Co. and Rolls-Royce.

It was a big victory for lawmakers from Democrat-dominated Connecticut, where the main F-35 fighter engine is built by Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies Corp. Former President George W. Bush had also tried to kill the second engine.

The showdown vote came just hours after Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen testified against the alternative engine before the Armed Services Committee, which has repeatedly backed it.

"I've been doing money a long time, I can't make sense out of a second engine," Mullen said."

98 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:31:56pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

That notion has appeared all too commonly today and yesterday.

However, the use of "tool" as a pejorative isn't much better...

/

heh. That did occur to me as I was typing, then I was further enraged by the lack of epithets for males that mirror those for females. I just gave up.

99 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:32:03pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

That notion has appeared all too commonly today and yesterday.

However, the use of "tool" as a pejorative isn't much better...

/

How about prick, dick, pecker, dickhead, wiener, peckerwood, or just jackoff.

100 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:32:28pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

However, the use of "tool" as a pejorative isn't much better...

True. Tools are useful. Jim Hoft isn't.

101 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:33:20pm

Hey all!

how is the day?

102 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:33:45pm

OK, this is beyond repulsive. Gloating for any woman to be gang raped is horrid beyond my ability to express. We knew that these wingnut creatures were scum. Now they have proven that no depth is too low for them to sink.

The only lesson from them is that it does not matter who you are, simply if there is a hint that you are not with them, then any horror that befalls you fills their sick hearts with glee.

103 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:34:26pm

re: #98 iceweasel

heh. That did occur to me as I was typing, then I was further enraged by the lack of epithets for males that mirror those for females. I just gave up.

Wrenchwench is dedicate to preserving the honor of tools, real tools. Never try to explain "Big Dick" to her.

104 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:34:38pm

re: #86 Winny Spencer

Watched it. Sadly the documentary makers beclown themselves by giving a platform to and relying on the testimony of noted Islamist Shaykh Khalid Yasin.
Not too mention the insinuation towards the end that perhaps Wilders is really an Israeli spy working for the evil Zionists.

Just dreadful, not to mention a missed opportunity.

Given his track reord, his inclusion was unfortunate, certainly - but I don't think it invalidates the programme or makes it a 'missed opportunity'.

I don't know exactly what Israeli politicians are doing by even giving this creep the time of day, but I would have hoped that politicians there would have the sense to shun him. Unfortunately this does not always seem to be the case, and Israeli wingnuts certainly should be embarrassed when they use him, or allow themselves to be used by him.

105 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:34:41pm

Has This been posted?

Israel: Iran Sending Warships Through Canal

"JERUSALEM—Iran is sending two warships through the Suez Canal en route to Syria, Israel's foreign minister said Wednesday, calling the act a "provocation" that Israel cannot ignore.

The Iranian plan described by Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman would take the warships past Israel's coast. While it would pose no significant military threat to Israel, he said that such a close encounter between forces of the two countries had not occurred in many years.

"Tonight, two Iranian warships are meant to pass through the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean Sea and reach Syria," Mr. Lieberman told a group of Jewish leaders in closed-door remarks that a government spokesman later confirmed. The minister said the plan "proves that the self confidence and cheek of the Iranians is growing from day-to-day" following the resignation of President Hosni Mubarak in Egypt.

"To my regret, the international community is not showing readiness to deal with the recurring Iranian provocations," he added. "The international community must understand that Israel cannot forever ignore these provocations."

107 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:35:26pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

OOPS. make that "King Dick".

108 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:35:36pm

re: #98 iceweasel

heh. That did occur to me as I was typing, then I was further enraged by the lack of epithets for males that mirror those for females. I just gave up.


Well ice, honestly, in the case of these rape gloating bloggers, there are no adequate words. I am simply horrified.

109 darthstar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:36:27pm

re: #106 JasonA

This is... weird.

Bachmann Blasts First Lady And 'Nanny State' -- For Promoting Breastfeeding

She's just upset because someone finally explained to her that the health care reform bill doesn't count as "discretionary spending" and she is powerless to defund it.

110 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:36:34pm

re: #106 JasonA

This is... weird.

Bachmann Blasts First Lady And 'Nanny State' -- For Promoting Breastfeeding

Crazy assed twit just is not strong enough to describe Bachmann.

111 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:36:58pm

re: #108 LudwigVanQuixote

Well ice, honestly, in the case of these rape gloating bloggers, there are no adequate words. I am simply horrified.

Hey cutie!
Yeah, I've been wanting to write about ot but the rage and the stabby get in the way.

112 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:38:04pm

re: #106 JasonA

This is... weird.

Bachmann Blasts First Lady And 'Nanny State' -- For Promoting Breastfeeding

She also completely missed the difference between writing something off as a deduction and the government paying for it.

113 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:38:34pm

re: #106 JasonA

This is... weird.

Bachmann Blasts First Lady And 'Nanny State' -- For Promoting Breastfeeding

Bachmann seems to forget that we already pay for formula thru the WIC program. Wouldn't it cheaper and easier to pay for breast pumps?

114 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:38:44pm

re: #111 iceweasel

Hey cutie!
Yeah, I've been wanting to write about ot but the rage and the stabby get in the way.


Hey, it's good to be on at the same time as you and Jimmah.

Honestly, each and every day the wingnuts give me new reasons to hate them. I'm at the point of a visceral and physical sense of revulsion when I hear them.

115 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:38:49pm

re: #98 iceweasel

heh. That did occur to me as I was typing, then I was further enraged by the lack of epithets for males that mirror those for females.

Rape-cheering blob of Fournier gangrene goo.

116 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:38:52pm

re: #61 BigPapa

I don't know why it would matter. Fucking rapists happen to be rabid anti-semites: dog bites man.

Not to diminish antisemitism, but why is this of any real relevance?

Really. That is very generous of you. Then apply that principle elsewhere and see where it takes you: "Fucking killer just happened to be a member of the KKK: Dog bites man. Not to diminish racism, but why is this of any real relevance?"

117 Four More Tears  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:39:13pm

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

She also completely missed the difference between writing something off as a deduction and the government paying for it.

That's what happens when you try to focus on something but your eyes are looking three feet to the right.

118 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:40:44pm

re: #117 JasonA

That's what happens when you try to focus on something but your eyes are looking three feet to the right.

OVER HERE! I'M OPEN!

119 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:40:51pm

re: #115 publicityStunted

Rape-cheering blob of Fournier gangrene goo.

How in the hell did you even know to look that up?!!!

120 recusancy  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:41:38pm

re: #116 harald

Really. That is very generous of you. Then apply that principle elsewhere and see where it takes you: "Fucking killer just happened to be a member of the KKK: Dog bites man. Not to diminish racism, but why is this of any real relevance?"

If it was the motivation for the killing it would matter. Otherwise a killer's a killer regardless of his rampant bigotry.

121 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:41:51pm

re: #114 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey, it's good to be on at the same time as you and Jimmah.

Honestly, each and every day the wingnuts give me new reasons to hate them. I'm at the point of a visceral and physical sense of revulsion when I hear them.

Time to take a mental health break when that happens. I just can't even look at Freepers or Hot Air or anywhere. Im getting my news about rightwing blogs from leftwing ones at the moment. Hipwaders aren't enough for those places.

122 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:42:26pm

re: #120 recusancy

Yes. Excactly. Motivation. Relevance.

123 shiplord kirel  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:42:58pm

re: #106 JasonA

This is... weird.

Bachmann Blasts First Lady And 'Nanny State' -- For Promoting Breastfeeding

Sheesh! She actually did it, she actually went and did it: She's gone after Mom.
Are apple pie and baseball next?

124 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:43:35pm

re: #90 iceweasel

Thank you, Jim Hoft, for perpetrating the notion that rape 'ruins' women, and letting Lara Logan in on the scoop about her recovery.

What a tool.

Might be nice if he pointed out as Frederick Douglas did: "Slavery is as insidious to the slave as it is to the slaveholder."

I consider rape to be slavery.

You'd think that a (I assume, "Christian") man might want to discourage rape by also pointing out what it does to the soul of the rapist. I couldn't imagine having to make amends or forgive myself for committing such a crime.

Focusing on the women, like in prostitution or absentee fathers, takes all the attention from the man. The societal blame goes to the woman.

125 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:44:16pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

How in the hell did you even know to look that up?!!!

LOL, somehow I wound up doing a Google image search for it, and thought, what a perfect thing to post in response to trolls :P

Not that I've been evil enough to do that just yet...mostly out of respect for innocents who may get caught in the crossfire *_*

126 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:44:25pm

re: #114 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey, it's good to be on at the same time as you and Jimmah.

Honestly, each and every day the wingnuts give me new reasons to hate them. I'm at the point of a visceral and physical sense of revulsion when I hear them.

Are we talking on a cellular level?
/

127 Four More Tears  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:44:27pm

Did you know that all African-Americans started out po' and in da ghetto?

Florida Gov. Rick Scott Assumes ‘You Guys’ (All Black Lawmakers) Grew Up Poor

“I grew up probably in the same situation as you guys,” Scott said to the group of 20 Democrats. “I started school in public housing. My dad had a sixth-grade education.”

Rep. Betty Reed, D-Tampa, said she was offended by the remark, but did not protest at the time because she said it was more important to have a productive dialogue with the new governor.

Afterward, she said, “He assumed that everyone [in the room] was poor and that can only be because you’re black.”

Rep. Joe Gibbons, D-Hallandale Beach, said Scott’s choice of words was unfortunate even if he was trying to “empathize” with the black caucus.
...

128 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:45:16pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

How in the hell did you even know to look that up?!!!

I'm impressed! Scared, but impressed!

129 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:45:16pm

News coming out about protests in Libya. Some police stations have been burned down as well.

130 recusancy  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:45:22pm

re: #122 harald

Yes. Excactly. Motivation. Relevance.

So... what are you arguing?

131 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:48:10pm

re: #124 ggt

Might be nice if he pointed out as Frederick Douglas did: "Slavery is as insidious to the slave as it is to the slaveholder."

I consider rape to be slavery.

You'd think that a (I assume, "Christian") man might want to discourage rape by also pointing out what it does to the soul of the rapist. I couldn't imagine having to make amends or forgive myself for committing such a crime.

Focusing on the women, like in prostitution or absentee fathers, takes all the attention from the man. The societal blame gis s to the woman.

This post is fantastic and I hope it winds up in the top ten. Or do a page on it! Or both! more tpeople should see it. Loved it!

132 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:48:45pm

Libyan police stations torched

Hundreds of protesters have reportedly torched Libyan police outposts in the eastern city of Beyida, while chanting: "People want the end of the regime."

"All the people of Beyida are out on the streets," said 25-year-old Rabie al-Messrati, who said he had been arrested after spreading a call for protests on Facebook.

Online calls of dissent have been growing rapidly over the past few days, with Facebook groups calling for "Uprising on February 17" doubling in popularity between Monday and Wednesday.

In the southern city of Zentan, 120km south of Tripoli, hundreds of people marched through the streets and set fire to security headquarters and a police station, then set up tents in the heart of the town, as a wave of unrest spread south and westwards across the country.

Activists had earlier clashed with government supporters and police, who reportedly shot rubber-coated steel bullets and used water cannon in Benghazi city.

Demonstrators gathered in the early hours of Wednesday morning in front of Benghazi's police headquarters and chanted slogans against the "corrupt rulers of the country", Al Jazeera's sources said.

Chants including "No God but Allah, Muammar is the enemy of Allah," can be heard on videos of demonstrations uploaded to YouTube. Independent confirmation was not possible as Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's administration keeps tight control over the movements of media personnel.

133 shiplord kirel  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:49:18pm
Lara Logan is lucky she’s alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.

Dim Jim once again lives up to his nickname, proving that he knows nothing about the person he is deriding and couldn't be bothered to take three minutes to find out. It also demonstrates that somewhere in the mass of smegma that passes for his brain, it is more tolerable to rape a liberal woman than a conservative one.

134 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:49:31pm

re: #130 recusancy

So... what are you arguing?

I'm arguing that the shouting of "Jew! Jew! Jew!" while multiple men are raping a woman is not irrelevant to the story. If that part of the story is true, that is.

135 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:49:48pm

re: #131 iceweasel

This post is fantastic and I hope it winds up in the top ten. Or do a page on it! Or both! more tpeople should see it. Loved it!

I don't know if I could make a page on my own post. Other people can do it, for me, it would seem arrogant.

Thanks tho! :)

136 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:50:49pm

re: #135 ggt

I don't know if I could make a page on my own post. Other people can do it, for me, it would seem arrogant.

Thanks tho! :)

Don't be silly! People do it all the time. I will do it if you won't. :)

137 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:51:05pm

re: #133 shiplord kirel

Dim Jim once again lives up to his nickname, proving that he knows nothing about the person he is deriding and couldn't be bothered to take three minutes to find out. It also demonstrates that somewhere in the mass of smegma that passes for his brain, it is more tolerable to rape a liberal woman than a conservative one.

Smegma!

One of my favorite words!

138 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:51:08pm

re: #114 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey, it's good to be on at the same time as you and Jimmah.

Honestly, each and every day the wingnuts give me new reasons to hate them. I'm at the point of a visceral and physical sense of revulsion when I hear them.

Hey Ludwig - book recommendation for you:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Seriously, this is the most acutely observed description and analysis of the wingnut mental condition I've ever read. And, just as a bonus, it's Scottish.

139 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:51:46pm

re: #136 iceweasel

Don't be silly! People do it all the time. I will do it if you won't. :)

You do it.

140 shiplord kirel  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:53:36pm

re: #137 ggt

Smegma!

One of my favorite words!

Some of the lizardoids were looking for new epithets for those annoying male persons of the wingnut persuasion. I present this one for their consideration.

141 darthstar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:53:44pm

Banksy bein' bad...

Image: banksy-billboard-20110216-153119.jpg

142 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54:27pm

I'd also like to repeat what I've said before.

Rape, as slavery, will not be taken seriously by society or the courts until it is treated the same as murder in our legal system.

It is obscene to me that slavery isn't at that level already.

143 Big Steve  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54:28pm

The 60 Minutes site has a very terse statement about this and then ends by saying they will not be commenting on this and they would that Ms Logan's privacy be respected. I couldn't agree more and further I suppose that 60 Minutes will be observing the same for others they are investigating who request that their privacy be respected.

144 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:55:04pm

re: #140 shiplord kirel

Some of the lizardoids were looking for new epithets for those annoying male persons of the wingnut persuasion. I present this one for their consideration.

I second!

145 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:55:30pm

re: #140 shiplord kirel

Some of the lizardoids were looking for new epithets for those annoying male persons of the wingnut persuasion. I present this one for their consideration.

"Fucking Dickwad" is another good one.

146 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:55:42pm

re: #140 shiplord kirel

Some of the lizardoids were looking for new epithets for those annoying male persons of the wingnut persuasion. I present this one for their consideration.

Smegheads is always a classic.

147 darthstar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:55:59pm

More Banksy from Hollywood this week:

Image: charlie-brown-banksy-20110215-185410.jpg
Image: banksy-flower-gun-20110215-185528.jpg

148 recusancy  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:56:14pm

re: #143 Big Steve

The 60 Minutes site has a very terse statement about this and then ends by saying they will not be commenting on this and they would that Ms Logan's privacy be respected. I couldn't agree more and further I suppose that 60 Minutes will be observing the same for others they are investigating who request that their privacy be respected.

Seriously? You're using this to take a shot at 60 minutes?

149 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:56:51pm

"Pencil Dick"

"Hamster Prick"

150 Four More Tears  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:57:31pm

re: #149 ggt

"Pencil Dick"

"Hamster Prick"

Rage Boehner.

151 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:59:07pm

re: #150 JasonA

Rage Boehner.

I've got it! The worst possible:

"Assange"

152 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:59:21pm

re: #142 ggt

I'd also like to repeat what I've said before.

Rape, as slavery, will not be taken seriously by society or the courts until it is treated the same as murder in our legal system.

It is obscene to me that slavery isn't at that level already.

I made your page and linked your comment. I would love to continue this conversation with you sometime as well.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

153 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:59:41pm

Later folks :)

Youtube Video
154 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:59:55pm

re: #152 iceweasel

I made your page and linked your comment. I would love to continue this conversation with you sometime as well.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Anytime, It's one of my hot buttons.

155 Big Steve  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:00:14pm

re: #148 recusancy

Seriously? You're using this to take a shot at 60 minutes?

Absolutely....how many times has 6o Minutes shoved their cameras into the face of people who have suffered horrible losses and have plead to be left alone.

156 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:00:40pm

South Dakota welcomes population increase

The new data, which was submitted to Gov. Dennis Daugaard, a Republican, and state legislature Wednesday, are likely to be welcome news.

"Population's a serious issue here," says Kenneth Blanchard, professor of political science at Northern State University in Aberdeen. "We used to have two seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, but we lost one after the last Census. It wasn't because we were losing population, it was because we were growing really slowly and the rest of the country was growing really fast."

157 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:04:28pm

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

South Dakota welcomes population increase

And yet they try to pass laws that will drive all the fertile women away.

158 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:05:23pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

And yet they try to pass laws that will drive all the fertile women away.

How are they supposed to grow if the shameless hussies can get abortions?
/

159 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:05:42pm

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

South Dakota welcomes population increase

You know, I've BEEN to South Dakota. Rather recently.

I didn't find a lot to attract me to stay for more than a visit. Lovely geography, but, it was hot and dry in the summer. I imagine it is cold in the winter.

I couldn't for the life of me figure-out why someone would go thru that terrain on a horse way back when. The praire-dog holes alone would be treacherous for the horse. Then my husband reminded me there was some gold to be had.

I'm not surprised there is a declining population. I don't even think there was a decent mall in the whole state. I did find an authentic Israeli restaurant that was worth driving all the way from Chicago to dine in.

160 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:06:04pm

re: #55 Gus 802

OK. Why did I suddenly get 9 conservative followers on Twitter? At least I think they are. Just out of the blue. Weird.

I got a conservative Christian columnist following me on twitter. Beats the frak out of me.

161 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:06:22pm

re: #116 harald

Really. That is very generous of you. Then apply that principle elsewhere and see where it takes you: "Fucking killer just happened to be a member of the KKK: Dog bites man. Not to diminish racism, but why is this of any real relevance?"

What, rape motivated by antisemitism?

162 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:09:42pm

re: #161 BigPapa

What, rape motivated by antisemitism?

Objectfy the person, they are no longer human, they become objects.

If you have a view of the world that includes the concept that some humans don't count, then they are nothing but fodder for your personal or societal use with no moral implications.

We've been thru this in this country. It has been part of our debate since the beginning. WE SHOULD ALL KNOW BETTER.

163 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:10:14pm

re: #123 shiplord kirel

Sheesh! She actually did it, she actually went and did it: She's gone after Mom.
Are apple pie and baseball next?

If Michelle Obama said said that children should learn to read, Bachmann would scream "Soshulism!!11ty!" and demand to see a birth certificate.

Also, the tide went out this morning and the sun rose in the East.

Welcome to conservatism as rabid tribal identity.

164 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:11:21pm

re: #162 ggt

Objectfy the person, they are no longer human, they become objects.

If you have a view of the world that includes the concept that some humans don't count, then they are nothing but fodder for your personal or societal use with no moral implications.

Are you speaking of Dim Hoft or the rapists of Logan?

165 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:12:35pm

re: #162 ggt

Objectfy the person, they are no longer human, they become objects.

If you have a view of the world that includes the concept that some humans don't count, then they are nothing but fodder for your personal or societal use with no moral implications.

We've been thru this in this country. It has been part of our debate since the beginning. WE SHOULD ALL KNOW BETTER.

Kinda like when Mama Grizzley goes to suburban Bible Belt locations and tells the audience that it is nice to be among "real Americans"?

Interesting that her concept of loving America means that half of the people have to be dehumanized and hatred.

166 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:13:07pm

re: #164 BigPapa

Are you speaking of Dim Hoft or the rapists of Logan?

As I understand, it applies to both.

167 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:16:05pm

One of the things I find particulary offensive about the Whacko Christians is that they seem to have a real twisted sense of their "duty" as Christians.

They separate the world into those who "have been saved" and those that "need to be saved".

While doing so, they take the soul that Christian says we all have, from both sides of the coin and therefore, objectify everyone.

168 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:18:12pm

On a side note...any prayers or positive thoughts this week would be appreciated. I have had a very bad week with my usual back pain, and have had to miss several classes. Along with that, we have to dish out over 600 dollars on car repairs...and I just finished writing a monumental piece of drek for my European History class on the early Soviet Zhenotdel women's collective and the failure of the Soviet State to honor promises regarding equal women's rights.

Sigh.

I need to see my pain mngt doctor about this though. If it gets any worse, I may not be able to finish the semester. Thanks for letting me vent for a moment.

169 Slap  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:21:59pm

Too many damned reasons to be pissed off in our world.

Sometimes, it's worth falling into warmth and joy. In my mind, one of the greatest songs ever written, and this is the performance. The Band and the Staple Singers for your afternoon, midweek grace:

Youtube Video
170 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:24:09pm

re: #169 Slap

Too many damned reasons to be pissed off in our world.

Sometimes, it's worth falling into warmth and joy. In my mind, one of the greatest songs ever written, and this is the performance. The Band and the Staple Singers for your afternoon, midweek grace:


[Video]

I'll take it, thanks.

171 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:24:44pm

SenGillibrand Kirsten Gillibrand
by owillis

I've asked Sec. @RayLaHood to redirect the $2.4b in #highspeedrail funding that FL rejected to NY. #HSR is crucial to NY's economic growth.

172 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:25:00pm

re: #168 celticdragon

On a side note...any prayers or positive thoughts this week would be appreciated. I have had a very bad week with my usual back pain, and have had to miss several classes. Along with that, we have to dish out over 600 dollars on car repairs...and I just finished writing a monumental piece of drek for my European History class on the early Soviet Zhenotdel women's collective and the failure of the Soviet State to honor promises regarding equal women's rights.

Sigh.

I need to see my pain mngt doctor about this though. If it gets any worse, I may not be able to finish the semester. Thanks for letting me vent for a moment.

I've determined to make 2011 better than 2010. Like you I've had some major set-backs.

Vent away!

173 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:26:04pm

This made me smile

The Westminster Dog Show made history this week by naming a Scottish deerhound as the Grand Champion. What's next for the now-famous dog?

174 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:27:29pm

this break from rape, evil, and mayhem brought to you by me:


They're almost done remodeling my favoritest arcade :D :D

[Link: remodel.groundkontrol.com...]

175 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:28:03pm

re: #161 BigPapa

What, rape motivated by antisemitism?

A possibility, sure, yes. Rape can serve many purposes: Lust, vengance, power, war... Americans are often seen as Jews, or representatives of Jews, in this region.

Anyway, this incident was not a result of a sudden collective euphoria-generated horniness that needed a random outlet, I think.

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:28:50pm

re: #167 ggt

One of the things I find particulary offensive about the Whacko Christians is that they seem to have a real twisted sense of their "duty" as Christians.

They separate the world into those who "have been saved" and those that "need to be saved".

While doing so, they take the soul that Christian says we all have, from both sides of the coin and therefore, objectify everyone.

I don't get along with anyone who comes up to me from the position of trying to convert me

That's a thing that pretty much automatically makes me not want to be in the same room as a person, it's insulting and childish

177 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:30:22pm

re: #124 ggt

Might be nice if he pointed out as Frederick Douglas did: "Slavery is as insidious to the slave as it is to the slaveholder."

I consider rape to be slavery.

You'd think that a (I assume, "Christian") man might want to discourage rape by also pointing out what it does to the soul of the rapist. I couldn't imagine having to make amends or forgive myself for committing such a crime.

Focusing on the women, like in prostitution or absentee fathers, takes all the attention from the man. The societal blame goes to the woman.

upding forever

178 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:35:52pm

gaycivilrights Gay Civil Rights

Prop 8: California Supreme Court Rules, Will Hear Arguments On Standing [Link: nblo.gs...]

179 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:35:58pm

Bad news for wingnuts....
Fed raises growth forecast for 2011

Minutes from the most recent meeting of the Federal Reserve released Wednesday show that policymakers anticipate a bigger bump in economic growth for 2011 than they thought just a few months ago.

The Fed estimates that the nation's gross domestic product will rise between 3.4% to 3.9% in 2011, up from its November estimate of an increase of 3.0% to 3.6%.

180 Stanghazi  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:53:38pm

For a laugh

acarvin Andy Carvin

I can't believe I spent the last 30 mins photoshopping that pic. I needed a break, I guess. [Link: flic.kr...] #jan25 #egypt #cigarguy

181 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:55:12pm

For those of you who saw it last night, the Honey Badger.

Image: 291c30b1-fb33-443e-b281-743a3bbfafe6.jpg

182 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 2:58:16pm

Hey, look who's on Twitter -- religious right Neanderthal Bryan Fischer:

[Link: twitter.com...]

183 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:00:06pm

re: #182 Charles

Hey, look who's on Twitter -- religious right Neanderthal Bryan Fischer:

[Link: twitter.com...]

What a wonderful person he is!

Another Marine to prison for killing Iraqi. When's the last time you heard soldiers praised for killing bad guys? [Link: ow.ly...] #tcot

184 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:01:44pm

Good grief. His entire twitter page in crazy talk.

185 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:01:48pm

re: #61 BigPapa

I don't know why it would matter. Fucking rapists happen to be rabid anti-semites: dog bites man.

Not to diminish antisemitism, but why is this of any real relevance?

It's not, particularly. If it's true, it illustrates the particular bigotries of the region, but we knew about those.

A white friend of mine was once addressed as 'n***** bitch' by a man who pistol-whipped her and robbed the theater she was working at. It wasn't relevent to the crime, but it did provide some insight into the innner workings of his head.

186 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:02:29pm

re: #64 darthstar

If Geller is reporting it, there's a good chance it's bullshit. And even if it's true, it's simply further indication that Mubarak's absence will be a good thing.

Mubarak didn't create anti-Semitism in Egypt, and I strongly doubt that his departure will do anything much to diminish it.

187 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:03:11pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

There were reports from Alexandria, starting around Jan. 28, I think, that the crowds were being told that all the journalists, no matter where they were from, were Israeli spies and/or Jews.

I hope the majority of Egyptians realize that they were taught antisemitism so that it could be used as a tool against themselves. Journalists were the best friends to would-be revolutionaries at that point, and if the guys in power could get the masses to turn on the journalists, what a victory for the fascists.

Whether that was any part of this attack is irrelevant, in my opinion. It would be another example of antisemitism being incidental to the events, if true, and incidental to the reports, if untrue.

IIRC, some guys from Aftonbladet were roughed up by people who said they were Mossad agents.

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:03:41pm

re: #72 _RememberTonyC

on a personal note ... my family is on the way to London tonight to see our son who is studying there. we'll be back next week. will try to check in with weather reports from the UK or something :)

Enjoy. London is a wonderful city.

189 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:05:03pm

re: #183 Varek Raith

What a wonderful person he is!

Bryan Fischer is a complete fucking idiot.

190 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:05:32pm

Have a wonderful evening all!

I need to take my nap.

191 Locker  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:06:46pm

I wonder what any of these fucktards would say if it were a Fox News reporter who was attacked. This is all just bullshit... they are all just happy that some liberal bitch got what was coming to her.

Fuck you. Jerks.

192 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:06:50pm

re: #182 Charles

Hey, look who's on Twitter -- religious right Neanderthal Bryan Fischer:

[Link: twitter.com...]

"Wingers on left calling Lara Logan attack "horrific." It is by Chriatian standards, but not by Muslim standards."

I guess thats why Muslim women and soldiers came to her rescue.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:07:32pm

re: #90 iceweasel

Thank you, Jim Hoft, for perpetrating the notion that rape 'ruins' women, and letting Lara Logan in on the scoop about her recovery.

What a tool.

Without dismissing the trauma of rape at all, I'm always amazed by the way rape is supposed to be worse than absolutely anything else that could happen to you.

There was a woman Army pilot shot down, I think, during the First Gulf War, and eventually retrieved. In an interview in 2003, she said that an interviewer finally had the guts to ask her if she'd been sexually assaulted while she was being held by the Iraqis. She said yes, but added that at the time she had two broken arms, and wasn't sure if her navigator was dead, so those things had been more traumatic and more on her mind.

IIRC, she said they seemed frustrated with the answer. The sexual attack was supposed to be the WORST PART.

194 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:10:06pm

re: #181 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

For those of you who saw it last night, the Honey Badger.

Image: 291c30b1-fb33-443e-b281-743a3bbfafe6.jpg

That's me after a long day.

195 darthstar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:11:43pm

I took Bflat to the vet today.

Image: roflbot-wkqA.jpg

196 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:12:07pm

re: #123 shiplord kirel

Sheesh! She actually did it, she actually went and did it: She's gone after Mom.
Are apple pie and baseball next?

Yes. To be replaced with lutefisk and curling.

197 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:14:21pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

She's a 1-star, now (and an MD), on the HQDA staff.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:14:43pm

re: #183 Varek Raith

What a wonderful person he is!

Fischer is obsessed with this idea that soldiers are not given enough pats for killing the enemy.

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

I think Bryan Fischer thinks this is what the recruiting process should really be like.

199 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:15:45pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

I can relate.

200 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:16:00pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Arlo upding.

201 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:19:06pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Bryan Fischer seems to be mistaking Christianity with a Khornate Cult.

Its a common mistake.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:20:00pm

re: #189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer is a complete fucking idiot.

He hates grizzly bears, and talks smack about MoH recipients. Frankly, he couldn't get much lower in my book.

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:20:49pm

re: #191 Locker

I wonder what any of these fucktards would say if it were a Fox News reporter who was attacked. This is all just bullshit... they are all just happy that some liberal bitch got what was coming to her.

Fuck you. Jerks.

If it had been a Fox news reporter, they would still be gushing racist drek, but the reporter would be a heroine and martyr. And I use that word advisedly.

204 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:21:13pm

re: #201 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer seems to be mistaking Christianity with a Khornate Cult.

Its a common mistake.

Someone must have given him the new and improved translation. That would be the one with "Thou shalt wish ill on thy neighbor," and "Those who think they are without sin can go ahead and cast that first stone."

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:21:28pm

re: #192 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Wingers on left calling Lara Logan attack "horrific." It is by Chriatian standards, but not by Muslim standards."

I guess thats why Muslim women and soldiers came to her rescue.

Taqiyya!

///I'm goin' to the special hell...

206 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:21:49pm

I suppose I should confess that when we were discussing the people that killed that little girl the other day, I did wish ill on my neighbor. Except that I don't exactly live in Arizona.

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:22:16pm

re: #197 Decatur Deb

She's a 1-star, now (and an MD), on the HQDA staff.

Very nice! She seemed like one hell of a gal in the interview.

208 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:22:48pm

re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist

He hates grizzly bears, and talks smack about MoH recipients. Frankly, he couldn't get much lower in my book.

In Fischer's book, Desmond Doss was a worthless pussy because he got the MOH and didn't kill a single enemy soldier.

209 BishopX  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:23:14pm

re: #201 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Crucifixions for the Crucified god?

wine for the blood god?

//

More seriously, I recently read some of the malleus maleficarum and it read like something straight out of 40k, it was rather disturbing how closely GW's fluff matches historical precedent.

210 brookly red  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:23:52pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Fischer is obsessed with this idea that soldiers are not given enough pats for killing the enemy.

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

I think Bryan Fischer thinks this is what the recruiting process should really be like.

I saw that performed live... old, do I feel.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:24:45pm

re: #204 EmmmieG

Someone must have given him the new and improved translation. That would be the one with "Thou shalt wish ill on thy neighbor," and "Those who think they are without sin can go ahead and cast that first stone."

"Those that are without sin, sin being herein defined only as the use of unprescribed narcotics and gay sex, or can convince others that they without those specified sins, may cast stones at will."

212 M. Dubious  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:26:59pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

"Those that are without sin, sin being herein defined only as the use of unprescribed narcotics and gay sex, or can convince others that they without those specified sins, may cast stones at will."

THAT IS NOT FAIR!
-Ted Haggard

213 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:28:23pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

"Those that are without sin, sin being herein defined only as the use of unprescribed narcotics and gay sex, or can convince others that they without those specified sins, may cast stones at will."

"It was a foolish man who built his house upon the sand."

214 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:33:42pm

re: #209 BishopX

Crucifixions for the Crucified god?

wine for the blood god?

//

More seriously, I recently read some of the malleus maleficarum and it read like something straight out of 40k, it was rather disturbing how closely GW's fluff matches historical precedent.

Nothing weird about it. They borrow shamelessy for back story.

The name of the Night Lord Primarch, Konrad Curze, is a combination of Joseph Conrad and his famous work Heart of Darkness, of which Kurtz is a central character. The Night Lords' homeworld of Nostramo is also named after another of Conrad's books, Nostromo. His assassin was named M'Shen, who they admitted was short for Martin Sheen, for his role in Apocalypse Now.

Then we have the grenade called "The Holy Orb of Antioch".

215 Jeff Zazlow  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:53:28pm

re: #65 Charles

Charles -
It wouldn't surprise me if it is true they were yelling anti Jew slurs...
But what I was thinking when I heard this story was she was unfortunately likely more than just 'sexually accosted'....
They hushed the story up for days -
They say she's been in the hospital for several days
That a group of people had to finally come in and save her...

ALL THOSE point to something unfortunately a lot worse than the 'official' vague description intimates.
And we'll probably never know the truth since they're never going to get the thugs who did it so she'll want to keep private the details of what actually happened....

It reminds me of when Elizabeth Smart was first found and rescued they never said that she was raped let alone repeatedly... only years later when she testified at the trial did it come out....

Jeff

216 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 3:57:54pm

re: #214 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nothing weird about it. They borrow shamelessy for back story.

The name of the Night Lord Primarch, Konrad Curze, is a combination of Joseph Conrad and his famous work Heart of Darkness, of which Kurtz is a central character. The Night Lords' homeworld of Nostramo is also named after another of Conrad's books, Nostromo. His assassin was named M'Shen, who they admitted was short for Martin Sheen, for his role in Apocalypse Now.

Then we have the grenade called "The Holy Orb of Antioch".

My favorite has to be Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov.

217 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 4:04:05pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

My favorite has to be

218 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 4:04:26pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov: "There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty."

219 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 4:15:44pm

re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov: "There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty."

Is he supposed to be a telepath, or is it just "The Imperial Authorities can never be wrong!" BS?

220 Kragar  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 4:19:56pm

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Is he supposed to be a telepath, or is it just "The Imperial Authorities can never be wrong!" BS?

Strict Amalathian. If you weren't guilty, you wouldn't have been called before the Inquisition.

221 sproingie  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 5:08:26pm

No indeed, it's not a new low. That would give them credit for having previously had the decency or at least restraint as opposed to simply not having the convenience of an opportunity.

These are just bad people.

222 tradewind  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 6:16:16pm

New low? Repulsive?
Here's a new, repulsive low for you... and it was, until a little while ago, teaching law at NYU. In fact, it was a Dept. Chair.
Thank God and Greyhound, he's gone.
And the now-ED, Karen Greenberg, refers to him quaintly as ' always provocative '.
Yeah.
[Link: dailycaller.com...]

223 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Wed, Feb 16, 2011 7:05:10pm

re: #215 Jeff Zazlow

Whether or not the savages yelled "Jew" or not, this incident is still disgusting and disturbing. I hope no one here wishes this on anyone.......even their political enemies. Ya hear?

224 Jeff Zazlow  Thu, Feb 17, 2011 9:43:24am

Like I said the "attack" is sadly probably a lot worse than a "sexual assault".... and is being under reported on details and description out of respect for Logan's privacy now... though it looks like at first bcs it would have defeated the narrative from Tahir Square....

20-30 minutes by a mob of some 200 men - she's been in the hospital for days now - and now described by CBS as a a 'brutal' attack...

Graham adds in some commentary on the culture which some may or may not like however as far as the attack I think the article shows the painting of the story is sadly probably a lot worse than we would have hoped....

[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]

“[60 Minutes] correspondent Lara Logan was repeatedly sexually assaulted by thugs yelling, ‘Jew! Jew!’ as she covered the chaotic fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo’s main square Friday.”

And it was The Wall Street Journal that reported “the separation and assault lasted roughly 20 to 30 minutes.”

Only when other media had the story did CBS break the news that its own chief foreign correspondent was the victim of “a brutal and sustained sexual assault.”

Five days of silence — not even “60 Minutes” coverage of the Egypt story. No mention of the "mob of more than 200 people whipped into frenzy” who attacked their own reporter.

But I’m with liberal columnist Richard Cohen of The Washington Post:

“The sexual assault of a woman in the middle of a public square is a story  . . .  particularly because the crowd in Tahrir Square was almost invariably characterized as friendly and out for nothing but democracy,” Cohen wrote.

Watching the same complicit media we all saw, Cohen notes most journalists covered the mobs “as if they were reporting from Times Square on New Year’s Eve, stopping only at putting on a party hat.”

Even CBS’s own statement said Logan was “covering the jubilation” and was attacked “amidst the celebration.”

Having 200 “good guys” gang assault a female reporter while screaming “Jew! Jew!” doesn’t fit the narrative. Is that why CBS sat on the story?

Larimore wonders if “Logan’s attack [is] an anomaly, or is it to be expected from men raised in a culture that treats women as lesser citizens?”

I would point her to the 2008 broadcast on the Al-Aribiya network of a female (!) lawyer arguing that it’s OK for Muslim men to sexually assault Israeli women, because the Jews have “raped the land.” Or this week’s story of Hena, the 14-year-old Bangladeshi girl raped by a family member, then sentenced to 100 lashes by Muslim authorities for having sex out of wedlock. After 80 lashes, Hena died.


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