Glenn Beck: Raped Women Who Have Abortions Are Nazis

The right wing war against women’s rights
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It used to be that only the most extreme Operation Rescue types would advocate forcing raped women to bear their attackers’ babies, or denying women abortions even if it endangers their lives.

Now it’s standard Fox News propaganda, brought to you by anti-abortion wacko Lila Rose and raving freakazoid Glenn Beck, who crazily draws a parallel between raped women who choose abortions and Nazi eugenics.

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256 comments
1 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:34:13pm

In the future, everyone will be a Nazi for fifteen minutes.

2 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:34:29pm

With Beck and Fox News, I'm hardly shocked or surprised anymore. And that's pretty damned bad...

3 Winny Spencer  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:35:29pm

Small government there, Glenn.

4 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:35:38pm

When is someone going to recognize & act upon the irresponsibility of letting this man on air, or his craven "pretends belief" positions?

5 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:36:22pm

It's becoming increasingly mainstream on the right wing to take inhuman, completely insane positions on abortion.

6 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:37:06pm

re: #5 Charles

Yeah. And to think I was recently told by someone here that abortion is no longer a conservative issue. Heh.

7 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:37:14pm

I have never understood this fear and hatred towards women.

I love women. I think women are awesome. God damn, I love being around women. My wife is awesome, but so are all my female friends. I feel so glad that there's, like, a version of humans that's like me, but discernibly different, in a way that's fun and cool and interesting.

I do not get these people for whom women are somehow threatening and scary and their sexuality has to be controlled and they need to be viewed mainly as their biological function of pregnancy machines.

They're missing out on a lot of fun.

8 Kruk  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:37:16pm

Can anyone tell me why a party that supposedly believes in law and order and moral values wants to make it easier for rapists to have children?

9 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:38:26pm

re: #5 Charles

It's becoming increasingly mainstream on the right wing to take inhuman, completely insane positions on abortion.

I'll sadly note that, while the younger evangelicals have gotten more liberal about gay rights, they have gotten more conservative about abortion.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

It may be a tactical move.

10 Winny Spencer  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:38:30pm

Btw, has anyone even heard that "genes"-argument before?

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:39:51pm

re: #10 Winny Spencer

Btw, has anyone even heard that "genes"-argument before?

From which side?

12 Gus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:40:06pm

Glenn Beck: popular leader of the American Taliban.

13 Winny Spencer  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:41:05pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

From which side?

The pro-choice side.

14 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:41:32pm

re: #5 Charles

It's becoming increasingly mainstream on the right wing to take inhuman, completely insane positions on abortion.

FTFY

15 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:41:46pm

re: #7 Obdicut

I have never understood this fear and hatred towards women.

Because Eve tempted Adam with the apple, leading to the Fall of Man. That's why. It's all her fault.

I'd add sarc tags here, but I'm not so sure it's all that far fetched.

16 Jadespring  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:43:43pm

re: #13 Winny Spencer

The pro-choice side.


What's the argument?

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:43:47pm

re: #13 Winny Spencer

The pro-choice side.

No.

Did they show anywhere the part where the young man said anything about genes? Beck picks that up, but I don't think anyone actually SAID that.

18 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:45:52pm

re: #15 Lidane

Because Eve tempted Adam with the apple, leading to the Fall of Man. That's why. It's all her fault.

I'd add sarc tags here, but I'm not so sure it's all that far fetched.

1 Tim. 2:

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

19 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:46:10pm

I just double checked the official LDS policies on abortion. Women were raped can receive an abortion.

He's only speaking for himself.

20 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:46:58pm

re: #7 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

What's up with that?

21 Winny Spencer  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:47:13pm

re: #16 Jadespring

What's the argument?

That pregnancies that are the result up rape should be terminated because the fetus has "rape genes" given to it by the rapist/father.

I think he pulled it out from somewhere the sun don't shine.

22 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:47:19pm

re: #19 EmmmieG

I just double checked the official LDS policies on abortion. Women were raped can receive an abortion.

He's only speaking for himself.

...who were raped...

23 freetoken  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:47:35pm

re: #5 Charles

It's becoming increasingly mainstream on the right wing to take inhuman, completely insane positions on abortion.

As we see in the burgeoning far-right movement in SDakota:


Bill sparks abortion debate

Supporters say it will protect unborn children from violence. Opponents say it legalizes murdering abortion providers. One thing's for certain: House Bill 1171 has stirred up a hornet's nest of controversy.

Supporters of the bill's intent say it's about protecting fetuses from assaults.

"This is a bill that will provide self-defense for the unborn child," said Rep. Phil Jensen, R-Rapid City, the bill's prime sponsor.

But critics see something more sinister: an attempt to legalize murder of abortion providers, whose actions could fall under HB1171's provisions involving threats to the lives of unborn children.

"If the bill passes, in theory, what it could do is provide a justifiable defense for someone who kills an abortion provider," said Kristin Aschenbrenner, a lobbyist with the South Dakota Advocacy Network for Women, which opposes HB1171.

Proponents of the bill say that's neither their intent nor what the bill would do.

"That is so twisted," Jensen said. "This has nothing to do with abortion, because abortion is a legal act."
One of the bill's co-sponsors, Rep. Steve Hickey, R-Sioux Falls, agreed.

"It's being spun in an amazing way, that those who support this bill are hoping to see abortion doctors murdered or something. I can't think of anything further from the truth," he said. "I know that's not the intention of the sponsor. That's not even an unintended consequence."

Because abortion is legal in South Dakota, justifiable homicide laws would not protect someone who killed an abortion provider if HB1171 were law, supporters argue.

"Right now abortion is legal," Hickey said. "It's not a right to go kill an abortionist. This is a self-defense law for acts that are illegal."

[...]

Yeah, right now abortion is legal. Once they succeed in outlawing abortions, then with the proposed bill above it will be open season on abortion providers.

I wonder if there will be a bag limit?

24 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:47:39pm

re: #18 Sergey Romanov

1 Tim. 2:

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

BOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNNGGGGG

Give me tough, loud, opinionated women, and I will love them the rest of my days.

25 Kruk  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:48:02pm

re: #15 Lidane

Because Eve tempted Adam with the apple, leading to the Fall of Man. That's why. It's all her fault.

I'd add sarc tags here, but I'm not so sure it's all that far fetched.

It isn't, actually. There are some who believe that all women carry Eve's sin in perpetuity. Similarly, the crowd crying out "Let his blood be on us and our children" when Jesus was crucified has been used to argue that Jews carry ongoing guilt for Christ's death. People can be pretty inventive when thinking up ways to blame those they are persecuting.

26 mikec6666  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:48:50pm

I think some of this is Obama's fault. Let's face it, the guy is a milquetoast character. Yeah, yeah, I voted him, but facts are facts. The rethugs can smell weakness, and the dems reek of it. The right wing is savaging everything we've ever fought for, argued over or worried about. And the O comes to the table with a measly little budget proposal -- metaphorically cupping his hands and asking for alms. Man, we are so fucked.

27 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:49:00pm

re: #20 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

What's up with that?

Exposure to fundamentalist hellfire and brimstone preaching from a young age without anything to counter it or to offer an alternate view.

28 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:50:04pm

re: #6 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. And to think I was recently told by someone here that abortion is no longer a conservative issue. Heh.

I think that is true, to an extent. It's the wingnut "conservatives" versus everyone else...

29 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:50:07pm

re: #26 mikec6666

When offering criticism, try offering solutions too.

30 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:50:35pm

re: #26 mikec6666
You mistake triangulation politics for weakness, especially in the face of a GOP house. I don't want a President with a bad temperament in charge.

31 recusancy  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:50:35pm

re: #26 mikec6666

I think some of this is your fault.

32 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:50:36pm

re: #26 mikec6666

I think some of this is Obama's fault. Let's face it, the guy is a milquetoast character. Yeah, yeah, I voted him, but facts are facts. The rethugs can smell weakness, and the dems reek of it. The right wing is savaging everything we've ever fought for, argued over or worried about. And the O comes to the table with a measly little budget proposal -- metaphorically cupping his hands and asking for alms. Man, we are so fucked.

Oh please. Dominionist opinions about abortion have something to do with Obama?

33 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:50:58pm

re: #26 mikec6666

Also, saying dumb shit like 'rethugs' isn't really going to achieve anything, no matter how little I may think of the GOP right now.

It's just not clever.

34 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:51:29pm

I posted elsewhere that by Glenn's "logic" any woman who declines to bear any man's child is practicing eugenics.

35 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:51:39pm

re: #20 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

They think of them as sluts trying to steal their husbands/boyfriends or compete with them in other ways? They think that if they put other women down, it raises them up? "Queen Bee" syndrome? Just throwing guesses out there (somewhat based on personal experience - my worst bosses, for example, were all other women *_* )

36 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:52:02pm

re: #25 Kruk

It isn't, actually. There are some who believe that all women carry Eve's sin in perpetuity. Similarly, the crowd crying out "Let his blood be on us and our children" when Jesus was crucified has been used to argue that Jews carry ongoing guilt for Christ's death. People can be pretty inventive when thinking up ways to blame those they are persecuting.

And Paul again, 1 Thess. 2:

14 For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone 16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last.

Way to fuck it up, Paul...

37 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:53:11pm

re: #20 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

What's up with that?

She's a mean girl. You probably knew a few in high school. This is why most women don't like Sarah Palin. She's reeks of the mean girl stench.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:53:52pm

re: #20 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

What's up with that?

Lila strikes me as a narcissistic nutcase, but I may be biased against her because she's on to women like me who hate the unborn.

//

39 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:54:26pm

re: #21 Winny Spencer

That pregnancies that are the result up rape should be terminated because the fetus has "rape genes" given to it by the rapist/father.

I think he pulled it out from somewhere the sun don't shine.

They're stepping up the campaign to associate abortion rights with eugenics. This is just a bit of experimentation along the way.

40 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:54:29pm

So if these assholes had their way, a rapist would have more of right to choose when he would become a father than I would have to choose when to become a mother.

Fuck these people.

41 Kruk  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:54:35pm

re: #20 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

What's up with that?

In countries where female genital mutilation is common, it's very often women who perform the act, and force their daughters to undergo it. I'm not sure this is very different.

42 freetoken  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:55:12pm

re: #36 Sergey Romanov

As mentioned by Wikipedia:

1 Thes. 2:13-16 have often been regarded as a post-Pauline interpolation. The following arguments have been based on the content: (1) It is perceived to be theologically incompatible with Paul's other epistles: elsewhere Paul attributed Jesus's death to the "rulers of this age"(1 Cor 2:8) rather than to the Jews, and elsewhere Paul writes that the Jews have not been abandoned by God for "all Israel will be saved"(Rom 11:26); According to 1 Thes 1:10, the wrath of God is still to come, it is not something that has already shown itself [4](2) There were no extensive historical persecutions of Christians by Jews in Palestine prior to the first Jewish war[5] (3) The use of the concept of imitation in 1 Thes. 2.14 is singular. (4) The aorist eftasen ("has overtaken") refers to the destruction of Jerusalem[6] (5) The syntax of 1 Thes. 2:13-16 deviates significantly from that of the surrounding context.[7]

43 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:55:31pm

re: #24 Fozzie Bear

BOOORRRIIINNNGGG

Give me tough, loud, opinionated women, and I will love them the rest of my days.

How many? ///

44 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:55:44pm

re: #41 Kruk

In countries where female genital mutilation is common, it's very often women who perform the act, and force their daughters to undergo it. I'm not sure this is very different.

It's the same thing. Women are often the worst misogynists.

45 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:56:23pm

re: #20 Obdicut

Oh, and I really don't get women who appear to hate and fear other women, like this Lila Rose woman.

What's up with that?

IIRC , Ms. Rose is a home-schooled Catholic who presumably gets lots of attention and pats on the back for doing what she does. She is young and intellectually sheltered and probably feels she is doing really important work. I'll bet she doesn't know she's being used. She may not care, I really have no idea.

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:56:39pm

re: #27 Lidane

Exposure to fundamentalist hellfire and brimstone preaching from a young age without anything to counter it or to offer an alternate view.

That makes it sound as though she's simply accepted what she's been taught. It goes beyond that. This is girl who's created a career for herself where she is loved, and petted, and admired, and gets to make a living going around talking passionately about how much she loves the little children, and passing judgment on other women, many of them a lot older and a lot wiser in the Lord than she is.

47 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:56:45pm

re: #44 moderatelyradicalliberal

It's the same thing. Women are often the worst misogynists.

I would call Lila self-hating just for the shoes she's wearing.

No sarc.

48 mikec6666  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:57:33pm

re: #31 recusancy

Ok, I accept that.

49 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:58:20pm

re: #43 Sergey Romanov

How many? ///

HAHAHA

That's the thing with tough, loud, opinionated women. You really can only handle one, long term...

However, in the short term, 5 would be nice. Now excuse me while my wife, who is reading this over my shoulder, beats the living shit out of me.

HALP!

50 mikec6666  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:58:21pm

re: #29 Obdicut

Wish i had one.

51 mikec6666  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:59:08pm

re: #33 Obdicut

Sorry, a bit of hyperbole.

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:59:12pm

re: #34 calochortus

I posted elsewhere that by Glenn's "logic" any woman who declines to bear any man's child is practicing eugenics.

Any woman who declines to sleep with any man is practicing eugenics. She's refusing to give his seed a chance!

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 2:59:49pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

In the future, everyone will be a Nazi for fifteen minutes.

*looks at his collection of computer games*

54 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:00:08pm

re: #41 Kruk

In countries where female genital mutilation is common, it's very often women who perform the act, and force their daughters to undergo it. I'm not sure this is very different.

Women who've been brainwashed and coerced by misogynistic culture to think that making themselves worthy of men/marriage, no matter the cost, is the only way they can survive.

55 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:00:27pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

Any woman who declines to sleep with any man is practicing eugenics. She's refusing to give his seed a chance!

I'll try that argument some day, and see if it gets me laid. I'll let you know how it works out. /

56 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:00:38pm

re: #40 moderatelyradicalliberal

So if these assholes had their way, a rapist would have more of right to choose when he would become a father than I would have to choose when to become a mother.

Fuck these people.

Like some sort of medieval fever dream

57 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:01:06pm

re: #42 freetoken

That's just speculation and most of it does not necessarily pertain to the "Jews killed Jesus" bit.

58 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:01:22pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

Any woman who declines to sleep with any man is practicing eugenics. She's refusing to give his seed a chance!

After all, every sperm is sacred!

59 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:01:43pm

re: #54 publicityStunted

Women who've been brainwashed and coerced by misogynistic culture to think that making themselves worthy of men/marriage, no matter the cost, is the only way they can survive.

In a stone age culture, this is true.

We don't live in a stone age culture.

60 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:02:07pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

Lila strikes me as a narcissistic nutcase, but I may be biased against her because she's on to women like me who hate the unborn.

//

I Hate The Unborn will be the name of my experimental industrial black-metal group

Look for us on tour with Skeletonwitch and Wolves In The Throne Room

61 recusancy  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:02:11pm

re: #48 mikec6666

Ok, I accept that.

Not for voting for Obama, which I doubt you did, but for being an ass and contributing nothing of significance to the debate.

62 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:02:15pm

re: #57 Sergey Romanov

That's just speculation and most of it does not necessarily pertain to the "Jews killed Jesus" bit.

Wasn't it probably pagan romans who killed him, in reality?

63 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:02:33pm

re: #56 WindUpBird

Like some sort of medieval fever dream

I'm about ready to get medieval on their asses!

64 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:03:03pm

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

65 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:03:20pm

re: #62 Fozzie Bear

Wasn't it probably pagan romans who killed him, in reality?

We don't really know (if Jesus existed at all; though he probably did).

66 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:03:35pm

re: #62 Fozzie Bear

Wasn't it probably pagan romans who killed him, in reality?

Whoever killed Jesus, they are dead. God can be their judge.

I'm not real big on blaming the living for things that people who had a few things in common with them and lived thousands of years ago did.

(I probably share genes with some pretty nasty people from the middle ages, so I suppose this is self-serving.)

67 Kruk  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:03:55pm

re: #40 moderatelyradicalliberal

re: #40 moderatelyradicalliberal

So if these assholes had their way, a rapist would have more of right to choose when he would become a father than I would have to choose when to become a mother.

Fuck these people.

Not to mention that the rapist would get the chance to be in the child's (and hence the victim's) life forever after if he wins visitation or custody rights. After all, "children need both a mother and a father".

68 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:03:58pm

re: #55 Fozzie Bear

I'll try that argument some day, and see if it gets me laid. I'll let you know how it works out. /

It won't. We're supposed to be the ones evaluating your fitness.

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:03:59pm

re: #41 Kruk

In countries where female genital mutilation is common, it's very often women who perform the act, and force their daughters to undergo it. I'm not sure this is very different.

well, if you're a woman, and you're being subjugated by men, your only power you can hold onto, is over other women.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:04:37pm

re: #64 calochortus

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

The sex appeal is part of what she's selling. A smarter pro-life spokeswoman who was plain and wore modest clothes would not have gotten nearly this far.

See also Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, and Britney Spears back when she was supposed to be a virgin.

71 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:04:37pm

re: #54 publicityStunted

Women who've been brainwashed and coerced by misogynistic culture to think that making themselves worthy of men/marriage, no matter the cost, is the only way they can survive.

And it may be true. Not good, but true.

72 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:04:38pm

re: #64 calochortus

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

I think any woman who appears on Fox is required to wear very short shirts, very high heels, and enough makeup to be mistaken for a drag queen working at a MAC counter.

73 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:05:04pm

re: #64 calochortus

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

look at fox news, these guys really like their female news readers, their female pundits, their female politicians, to be first and foremost, PRETTY IN A VERY WHITE AND SAFE AND CONSERVATIVE WAY

74 recusancy  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:05:31pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

The sex appeal is part of what she's selling. A smarter pro-life spokeswoman who was plain and wore modest clothes would not have gotten nearly this far.

See also Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, and Britney Spears back when she was supposed to be a virgin.

I absolutely do not get what people find sexy about Coulter.

75 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:05:34pm

re: #68 calochortus

It won't. We're supposed to be the ones evaluating your fitness.

Damn. I guess i'll stick to licking my eyebrows. For some reason women love that. Wonder why... /

76 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:05:41pm

re: #66 EmmmieG

The malice in the "Jews killed Jesus" phrase is that it is so intentionally ambiguous. Suppose for a second that those who killed Jesus were Jewish. The phrase implies - and Paul makes a full use of it - the collective responsibility. The "on our children" bit goes even further. This is such obvious illogical silliness that it's horrifying to think how much innocent blood was spilled because of it.

77 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:05:59pm

The longer I watch Republicans and the far-right in action, the dirtier I feel for having supported them during the Bush years. I think of all the times I sat there, laughing at the attention paid by others to loons like these, and feel like retching. Not all the perfumes of Arabia could sweeten the stink that is upon these people.

78 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:05:59pm

re: #64 calochortus

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

Are you kidding?

79 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:06:10pm

re: #74 recusancy

I absolutely do not get what people find sexy about Coulter.

SHE HATES LIBERALS THAT IS WHAT IS SEXY HAR DE HAR

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:06:35pm

re: #54 publicityStunted

Women who've been brainwashed and coerced by misogynistic culture to think that making themselves worthy of men/marriage, no matter the cost, is the only way they can survive.

Read "Pride and Prejudice" for what I consider to be a really tragic look at that.

81 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:06:39pm

re: #74 recusancy

I absolutely do not get what people find sexy about Coulter.

On a purely physical level, she's unattractive to me. She needs a sandwich, stat.

82 mikec6666  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:06:41pm

re: #61 recusancy

Yup, you must know.

83 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:07:24pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Read "Pride and Prejudice" for what I consider to be a really tragic look at that.

"and Zombies"

84 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:07:27pm

re: #76 Sergey Romanov

The malice in the "Jews killed Jesus" phrase is that it is so intentionally ambiguous. Suppose for a second that those who killed Jesus were Jewish. The phrase implies - and Paul makes a full use of it - the collective responsibility. The "on our children" bit goes even further. This is such obvious illogical silliness that it's horrifying to think how much innocent blood was spilled because of it.

I get that it was all really about anti-Semitism, but the whole concept of dragging blame from the past into the future is kind of a non-starter, especially when it was that long ago.

People used to be pretty unkind to each other. Well, still are, but it's mostly illegal now.

85 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:07:34pm

re: #64 calochortus

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

Limbaugh has an ass fetish.
[Link: www.salon.com...]

86 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:07:56pm

re: #75 Fozzie Bear

Damn. I guess i'll stick to licking my eyebrows. For some reason women love that. Wonder why... /

Because we can't resist a joke that's older than our grandparents?

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:08:04pm

re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think any woman who appears on Fox is required to wear very short shirts, very high heels, and enough makeup to be mistaken for a drag queen working at a MAC counter.

I know some drag queens who work at the MAC counter. (All right, I know some boys who work at the MAC counter who could very well be drag queens in their spare time.)

88 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:08:35pm

re: #74 recusancy

I absolutely do not get what people find sexy about Coulter.

She needs to fucking eat...she'd blend in with the surroundings if she turns sideways.

89 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:08:52pm

re: #86 calochortus

Because we can't resist a joke that's older than our grandparents?

Sounds about right. Memories fade, but cheesy one-liners are forever.

90 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:09:01pm

re: #64 calochortus

Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:09:03pm

re: #74 recusancy

I absolutely do not get what people find sexy about Coulter.

Nor I. I desperately want to give her a makeover. And feed her. I think she would be less bitchy if she ate more than a thousand calories a day.

92 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:09:11pm

re: #84 EmmmieG

That's just an extension of collective responsibility in time.

93 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:09:22pm

re: #59 EmmmieG

In a stone age culture, this is true.

We don't live in a stone age culture.

Not in the United States, anyway.

94 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:09:37pm

re: #76 Sergey Romanov

The malice in the "Jews killed Jesus" phrase is that it is so intentionally ambiguous. Suppose for a second that those who killed Jesus were Jewish. The phrase implies - and Paul makes a full use of it - the collective responsibility. The "on our children" bit goes even further. This is such obvious illogical silliness that it's horrifying to think how much innocent blood was spilled because of it.

I can't even relate

it's like people telling me the moon landing was faked, once we start blaming an ethnic group for some plot development in millenia-old-mysticism, we're in Pee Wee's playhouse

95 Winny Spencer  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:09:53pm

re: #85 Kid A

Limbaugh has an ass fetish.
[Link: www.salon.com...]

What a narcissist.

96 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:10:21pm

re: #93 eclectic infidel

Not in the United States, anyway.

Though the Right certainly want to change that, one step at a time.

97 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:10:52pm

No plans to read Pride and Prejudice. Now, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies...

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:11:20pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

Nor I. I desperately want to give her a makeover. And feed her. I think she would be less bitchy if she ate more than a thousand calories a day.

Like Beck, I consider her sort of a PT Barnum figure, I absolutely do not believe she believes a word of her schtick. Some of the pundits smoke their own stash (Hannity, Levin, Lars Larson, o'Reilly), not her, she's 100% a cynic

If she ever retires, she'll probably spill the beans

99 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:11:34pm

re: #97 Sergey Romanov

No plans to read Pride and Prejudice. Now, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies...

I would read it if I could stand the writing style, but unfortunately, even with zombies in it, that style is unreadable.

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:12:08pm

re: #99 Fozzie Bear

I would read it if I could stand the writing style, but unfortunately, even with zombies in it, that style is unreadable.

I had to read it in school ;_;


At the same time as I was reading Elric novels :D

101 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:12:42pm

It's now a graphic novel:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:12:52pm

re: #99 Fozzie Bear

I would read it if I could stand the writing style, but unfortunately, even with zombies in it, that style is unreadable.

Allow me to recommend "Bride and Prejudice", a Bollywood-inspired retelling that has song and dance routines, plus Aishwarya Rai, and Naveen Andrews in a sizzlingly sexy bit role.

103 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:12:52pm

re: #99 Fozzie Bear

I would read it if I could stand the writing style, but unfortunately, even with zombies in it, that style is unreadable.

At least there's this:

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

104 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:13:06pm

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

I know some drag queens who work at the MAC counter. (All right, I know some boys who work at the MAC counter who could very well be drag queens in their spare time.)

I prefer them to stop short of drag queen status. Just be a guy in a dress, dammit! Much cuter

105 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:13:26pm

re: #101 EmmmieG

ahahahaha of course

106 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:14:41pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

Allow me to recommend "Bride and Prejudice", a Bollywood-inspired retelling that has song and dance routines, plus Aishwarya Rai, and Naveen Andrews in a sizzlingly sexy bit role.

OMG Naveen Andrews. Niiice

107 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:14:42pm

re: #98 WindUpBird

Like Beck, I consider her sort of a PT Barnum figure, I absolutely do not believe she believes a word of her schtick. Some of the pundits smoke their own stash (Hannity, Levin, Lars Larson, o'Reilly), not her, she's 100% a cynic

If she ever retires, she'll probably spill the beans

I hear Coulter spends an awful lot of time in West Hollywood. A true believer would never hand out there. GOProud members don't hang out in West Hollywood. It's just too gay.

108 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:14:42pm

re: #101 EmmmieG

It's now a graphic novel:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

They're also supposedly making a film and a video game based on it. :D

109 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:14:48pm

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

drag queens to me are sorta like members of KISS, they're great to look at and look totally awesome when they shoot fireballs out of their mouth, but not sexy

110 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:14:48pm

re: #104 WindUpBird

I prefer them to stop short of drag queen status. Just be a guy in a dress, dammit! Much cuter

Years and years ago, I was supposed to meet a friend for the Dyke March (all-women event the evening before the Pride parade.)

I was on the phone with her, figuring out where to meet up, and as we're talking, she gasps, and says, "Oh, hon, the most beautiful drag queen just got off the bus. Oh. She looks just like a fairy princess."

I howled.

111 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:15:23pm

re: #104 WindUpBird

I prefer them to stop short of drag queen status. Just be a guy in a dress, dammit! Much cuter

What I find very fetching is basic hipster-boy look, plus makeup.

112 Girth  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:15:44pm

As with so many other issues, I cannot help but agree with the wit and wisdom of George Carlin:

People say life begins at conception, I say life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous process.

and of course:

Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?

113 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:15:53pm

re: #64 calochortus

Do conservative men have a leg fetish? Until I read the shoe comments I hadn't really looked at Lila Rose. Could her skirt be any shorter? Its about the same length as the skirts the Women of Fox (patent pending) wear. Generally their cleavage is pretty well covered, but legs are everywhere.
Should a good Catholic girl be such a tease?

Lila Rose may be cute physically, but her soul is ugly to the bone.

114 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:16:08pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

OMG Naveen Andrews. Niiice

I tried to watch Lost just for him, and Heroes for Sendhil Ramamurthy, but I couldn't get into either show. Still, they're both very easy on the eyes.

115 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:16:54pm

re: #109 WindUpBird

drag queens to me are sorta like members of KISS, they're great to look at and look totally awesome when they shoot fireballs out of their mouth, but not sexy

I don't think drag is meant to be sexy. it's all camp and fun. There's a restaurant in Houston with an all drag queen serving staff. They sing and everything. So much fun.

116 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:17:13pm

re: #112 Girth

As with so many other issues, I cannot help but agree with the wit and wisdom of George Carlin:

and of course:

The first one is also scientifically precise ;)

117 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:17:58pm

re: #113 talon_262

Lila Rose may be cute physically, but her soul is ugly to the bone.

Actually, watching the video without sound was rather instructive. She seemed much less sincere...

118 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:18:13pm

re: #114 Lidane

I tried to watch Lost just for him, and Heroes for Sendhil Ramamurthy, but I couldn't get into either show. Still, they're both very easy on the eyes.

The English Patient. Years ago, but still, damn. I never watched Lost.

119 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:18:39pm

re: #114 Lidane

I tried to watch Lost just for him, and Heroes for Sendhil Ramamurthy, but I couldn't get into either show. Still, they're both very easy on the eyes.

Good Lord those are two seriously beautiful Indian men.

120 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:18:45pm

re: #109 WindUpBird

LOL. My hetero status keeps me from having any clue, so I'd just defer to a very recent well known quote by a very prominent pop/club talent.

"Don't be a drag just be a queen".

Sounds like good advice.

121 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:19:06pm
122 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:19:21pm

re: #107 moderatelyradicalliberal

I hear Coulter spends an awful lot of time in West Hollywood. A true believer would never hand out there. GOProud members don't hang out in West Hollywood. It's just too gay.

I saw a photo of her, taken in a gay-owned, gay-staffed, gay-frequented restaurant. It's all bullshit. She's bullshit, and her loyal culture warriors would vomit if they could comprehend the depths to whitch they've been punked. Right up the chute, teabaggers! She's found her niche, she's found that little pocket of immortality so she doens't have to work hard. And it involves manipulating dumb conservatives and selling them dumb books. Feeding time at the zoo. It's genius, honestly, if you look at it from pure cynicism.

Like the band with the one hit that they can keep selling to ad firms, and tour off of.

Ann Coulter is probably a very very smart, cynical, and misanthropic person who's just figured out an angle. She wouldn't hang out with racist homophobic dogshit rabble for fun, because that's work! You gotta be on the clock!

123 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:19:26pm

re: #97 Sergey Romanov

No plans to read Pride and Prejudice. Now, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies...

and don't forget, Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter. The woman I was dating till December last year left it at my apt and since she refuses to retrieve it, I have declared it mine. It's an interesting read.

124 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:19:49pm

re: #109 WindUpBird

drag queens to me are sorta like members of KISS, they're great to look at and look totally awesome when they shoot fireballs out of their mouth, but not sexy

Depends on the drag queen. I remember a few that made me question a whole lot of things, including my love of decidedly masculine men. Heh.

125 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:20:17pm

re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist

Years and years ago, I was supposed to meet a friend for the Dyke March (all-women event the evening before the Pride parade.)

I was on the phone with her, figuring out where to meet up, and as we're talking, she gasps, and says, "Oh, hon, the most beautiful drag queen just got off the bus. Oh. She looks just like a fairy princess."

I howled.

AWESOME

One of these days, you gotta see what we get up to in San Jose right after the holidays ;-)

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:20:56pm

re: #109 WindUpBird

drag queens to me are sorta like members of KISS, they're great to look at and look totally awesome when they shoot fireballs out of their mouth, but not sexy

It's an art form.

127 SpaceJesus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:21:33pm

Conservatives are the worst things on planet Earth

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:21:59pm

re: #114 Lidane

I tried to watch Lost just for him, and Heroes for Sendhil Ramamurthy, but I couldn't get into either show. Still, they're both very easy on the eyes.

He was all that made "The English Patient" tolerable for me. Why couldn't the movie have just been about that guy and Juliette Binoche?

129 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:21:59pm

re: #124 Lidane

Depends on the drag queen. I remember a few that made me question a whole lot of things, including my love of decidedly masculine men. Heh.

Oh, they can totally rock! well, if they tone down the sort of 7 foot kabuki thing. I just have a million opinions about how people should dress as the opposite gender, haha

There's a point where drag queens go from being cute, to looking like rock stars who are meant to be seen from hundreds of feet away on stage. :D

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:22:09pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

It's an art form.

THAT is totally true *_*

131 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:22:52pm

re: #122 WindUpBird

For sure Coulter knows very well what she is doing. I'm still sure she's a true blue conservative though, more to the paleo side.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:23:06pm

re: #115 moderatelyradicalliberal

I don't think drag is meant to be sexy. it's all camp and fun. There's a restaurant in Houston with an all drag queen serving staff. They sing and everything. So much fun.

A science teacher I used to work with asked me once why sixth-grade girls had so much in common with drag queens. I told that they're both acting out an exaggerated version of femininity--the girls because they don't know how to do it right yet, and the guys because they're sending it up.

133 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:23:20pm

Gotta go get stuff done.

134 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:23:37pm

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

For sure Coulter knows very well what she is doing. I'm still sure she's a true blue conservative though, more to the paleo side.

maybe! I would not be surprised if she literally doesn't give a shit about either side.

135 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:24:19pm

re: #128 SanFranciscoZionist

He was all that made "The English Patient" tolerable for me. Why couldn't the movie have just been about that guy and Juliette Binoche?

I still remember a character on King of the Hill describing The English Patient as a long, slow, painful, boring death. I thought that was pretty apt.

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:24:27pm

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

A science teacher I used to work with asked me once why sixth-grade girls had so much in common with drag queens. I told that they're both acting out an exaggerated version of femininity--the girls because they don't know how to do it right yet, and the guys because they're sending it up.

And not surprisingly, a lot of the imagery being fed to sixth grade girls, princess disney imagery, bratz dolls


is the same sort of thing that gets used as raw material for drag imagery :D

137 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:25:15pm

re: #134 WindUpBird

maybe! I would not be surprised if she literally doesn't give a shit about either side.

I think she does and I think her true views are darker than what she presents them to be. If it was strictly about opportunism, we wouldn't see a defense of CCC or an obituary of Joe Sobran. This kind of thing goes against "I'm just making a buck".

138 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:25:32pm

re: #136 WindUpBird

And not surprisingly, a lot of the imagery being fed to sixth grade girls, princess disney imagery, bratz dolls

is the same sort of thing that gets used as raw material for drag imagery :D

Again with the amazon link:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]


(If anyone decides to buy these, make sure you go through Charles' link on the left side of the page.)

139 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:26:21pm

re: #122 WindUpBird

I saw a photo of her, taken in a gay-owned, gay-staffed, gay-frequented restaurant. It's all bullshit. She's bullshit, and her loyal culture warriors would vomit if they could comprehend the depths to whitch they've been punked. Right up the chute, teabaggers! She's found her niche, she's found that little pocket of immortality so she doens't have to work hard. And it involves manipulating dumb conservatives and selling them dumb books. Feeding time at the zoo. It's genius, honestly, if you look at it from pure cynicism.

Like the band with the one hit that they can keep selling to ad firms, and tour off of.

Ann Coulter is probably a very very smart, cynical, and misanthropic person who's just figured out an angle. She wouldn't hang out with racist homophobic dogshit rabble for fun, because that's work! You gotta be on the clock!

You really do know people by the company they keep regularly and Ann does not keep company with the people who read her books and culturally she is not what Palin would call a "real American". She hangs out in West Hollywood, goes clubbing with Bill Maher and was engaged to Bob Guccione, Jr who owns Penthouse magazine.

I think the Boondocks has her pegged

[Link: video.adultswim.com...]

140 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:26:48pm

re: #139 moderatelyradicalliberal

You really do know people by the company they keep regularly and Ann does not keep company with the people who read her books and culturally she is not what Palin would call a "real American". She hangs out in West Hollywood, goes clubbing with Bill Maher and was engaged to Bob Guccione, Jr who owns Penthouse magazine.

I think the Boondocks has her pegged

[Link: video.adultswim.com...]

I LOVE BOONDOCKS SO MUCH

God damn that show is genius :D

141 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:26:52pm

re: #129 WindUpBird

The ones I knew didn't do the 7-foot kabuki thing. They were Madonna impersonators and more like cross-dressers than the over-the-top drag queens. One guy made me insanely jealous because he wore a woman's pantsuit better than I did, and he had fantastically arched eyebrows. Hehehe.

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:26:58pm

re: #135 Lidane

I still remember a character on King of the Hill describing The English Patient as a long, slow, painful, boring death. I thought that was pretty apt.

But the Sikh guy was wonderful.

143 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:27:35pm

re: #140 WindUpBird

I LOVE BOONDOCKS SO MUCH

God damn that show is genius :D

Agreed. Pity it's nearly unquotable.

/

144 Kruk  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:27:51pm

re: #123 eclectic infidel

and don't forget, Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter. The woman I was dating till December last year left it at my apt and since she refuses to retrieve it, I have declared it mine. It's an interesting read.

I'll see your Abraham Lincoln and raise you Jesus Christ

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

145 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:27:55pm

re: #139 moderatelyradicalliberal

she was engaged to Guccione? I did not know that!

MAN that makes a lot of sense! Two people who just built their little junk culture empires

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:28:36pm

re: #141 Lidane

The ones I knew didn't do the 7-foot kabuki thing. They were Madonna impersonators and more like cross-dressers than the over-the-top drag queens. One guy made me insanely jealous because he wore a woman's pantsuit better than I did, and he had fantastically arched eyebrows. Hehehe.

HEY! NOW WE ARE TALKING :D

Yeah, I'm a giant fan for dudes who can do a good Madonna, espeically the 80's and mid 90's Madonnas

147 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:29:01pm

re: #140 WindUpBird

I LOVE BOONDOCKS SO MUCH

God damn that show is genius :D

I literally have peed on myself watching that show. Especially the Stinkmeaner episode.

148 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:29:19pm

re: #143 Sergey Romanov

Agreed. Pity it's nearly unquotable.

/

"Black Entertainment Television is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life"

149 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:29:32pm

re: #147 moderatelyradicalliberal

I literally have peed on myself watching that show. Especially the Stinkmeaner episode.

T...M...I...

150 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:29:44pm

re: #147 moderatelyradicalliberal

I literally have peed on myself watching that show. Especially the Stinkmeaner episode.

WHITE HEAVEN!

151 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:29:50pm

re: #147 moderatelyradicalliberal

tmi

152 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:31:41pm

re: #145 WindUpBird

she was engaged to Guccione? I did not know that!

MAN that makes a lot of sense! Two people who just built their little junk culture empires

Oops, they dated, but were not engaged. But still, ewww.

153 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:32:31pm

re: #150 WindUpBird

WHITE HEAVEN!

LOL!

154 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:32:53pm

re: #149 EmmmieG

T...M...I...

Only a little bit.

155 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:33:20pm

re: #147 moderatelyradicalliberal

I literally have peed on myself watching that show. Especially the Stinkmeaner episode.

The "what if" with MLK surviving was brutal. I don't think I'd laughed that hard in a long time. Also, the one with Riley becoming a fan of Gangstalicious had me in tears.

156 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:36:11pm

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

157 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:36:50pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

You will never regret the time you put into caring for your parents. God bless you and comfort you.

158 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:37:10pm

re: #155 Lidane

The "what if" with MLK surviving was brutal. I don't think I'd laughed that hard in a long time. Also, the one with Riley becoming a fan of Gangstalicious had me in tears.

I very much enjoyed the Santa Claus episode and the A Pimp Named Slickback episode. So many things I shouldn't be laughing at, but I can't stop.

159 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:37:22pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

I am so sorry. Much love.

160 Kruk  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:38:08pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

He was blessed to have a child like you. I hope I can be as good to my parents when the time comes.

161 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:38:11pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

I'm sorry to hear that and God bless you and your family. RIP for your father.

162 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:38:45pm

((ausador))

163 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:39:10pm

re: #158 moderatelyradicalliberal

So many things I shouldn't be laughing at, but I can't stop.

That's what made The Boondocks so visceral for me, especially since I'm Latina. There was always a voice in the back of my head saying I shouldn't have laughed at any of it, but I couldn't help it. It was so well written and acted that I just had to laugh.

164 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:39:54pm

re: #156 ausador

My deepest condolences. Positive vibes to you and your family.

165 Digital Display  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:40:14pm

re: #156 ausador

I am deeply sorry for your loss

166 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:41:14pm

Whoa. SciFi fans re: #156 ausador

My heartfelt sympathy for your loss.

167 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:42:00pm

re: #166 Rightwingconspirator

Oh pimf I was going to post a trailer. My bad. Very sorry.

168 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:43:29pm

re: #156 ausador

{ausador}

169 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:44:47pm

[{ausador}]

170 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:45:04pm

re: #156 ausador

My condolences for your loss. May his passing bring peace to you and yours.

171 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:47:11pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

My deepest sympathies.

172 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:49:21pm

re: #156 ausador

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss.

173 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:52:51pm

re: #156 ausador

Many years ago I sat with my mom at the hospital as we kept a sacred promise to her. Her body had crashed, and the machines were all that kept her alive. I held her hand from the time the nurse shut all that off as promised until she was really gone. In my whole life, no promise was so necessary and so hard to keep. No other promise will really be hard to keep. I feel you on this one. Our parents teach us about all phases of life through to the end. My understanding we are supposed to outlive our parents was little help, but some.

174 sagehen  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:53:45pm

Is it possible (not likely, but just possible) that they're purposely taking what they know to be totally whacko-extremist untenable positions, so that by contrast last week's extremist looks slightly less extremist and therefore almost "reasonable"?

175 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:56:18pm

re: #174 sagehen

Is it possible (not likely, but just possible) that they're purposely taking what they know to be totally whacko-extremist untenable positions, so that by contrast last week's extremist looks slightly less extremist and therefore almost "reasonable"?

Overton Window. Through which America is being defenestrated.

176 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:57:40pm

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

Speaking of Coulter, last time I gathered info on Sobran and her, I forgot this bit:

"That she wanted to leave her New York law firm 'to get away from all these Jews' was one of her gentler remarks," writes Brock

This is from Brock's Blinded by the Right, 2002. I would say that in light of everything Brock's anecdote rings true.

177 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:57:42pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

But the Sikh guy was wonderful.



Couldn't figure out how Detective Sgt. Lewis wound up in British Explosives Odnance Disposal.

178 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 3:59:32pm

Previous topic
Will a decent compromise be found?

Union leaders offer concessions

Top leaders of two of Wisconsin's largest public employee unions announced they are willing to accept the financial concessions called for in Walker's plan, but will not accept the loss of collective bargaining rights.

Nor should they. The Gov should take the deal.

179 Girth  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:00:54pm

re: #156 ausador

Peace be with you and your family.

180 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:03:02pm
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

The Middle East is on fire again, and crazy Muslims with funny names aren't helping things -- Mahmoud, ElBaradei, al-Banna, Barack...

181 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:04:09pm

re: #178 Rightwingconspirator

Previous topic
Will a decent compromise be found?

Union leaders offer concessions

Top leaders of two of Wisconsin's largest public employee unions announced they are willing to accept the financial concessions called for in Walker's plan, but will not accept the loss of collective bargaining rights.

Nor should they. The Gov should take the deal.

He won't, and the unions will lose this one for a couple years. I hope it will be the most expensive law the Koch Bros ever bought.

182 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:06:13pm

re: #180 Sergey Romanov

Same at [Link: nation.foxnews.com...]

183 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:06:28pm

Thank you guys and gals for your support.

One phase of my life just ended, another is just starting, time to start trying to figure out how to restart my own life outside this condo. Going to be interesting times (in a good way I hope).

184 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:07:16pm

re: #178 Rightwingconspirator

As I understand it, the unions have been trying to get hold of him for days, with the intention of saying they'd agree to the financial concessions. And, so far, Walker has just ignored them. This isn't about the money, it never was. It's about crippling the unions, with the eventual goal of driving them into extinction. He apparently has chosen to wait it out until one Democrat can be drug back to give him the representation he needs to ram this bill through.

185 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:07:48pm

I love Patton oswalt's twitter feed SOOO MUCH [Link: twitter.com...]

186 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:07:58pm

Funniest twitter on the internet

187 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:08:24pm

re: #181 Decatur Deb
Well, sorry to hope you are wrong so strongly.

188 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:09:08pm

re: #184 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

As I understand it, the unions have been trying to get hold of him for days, with the intention of saying they'd agree to the financial concessions. And, so far, Walker has just ignored them. This isn't about the money, it never was. It's about crippling the unions, with the eventual goal of driving them into extinction. He apparently has chosen to wait it out until one Democrat can be drug back to give him the representation he needs to ram this bill through.

America, fuck yeah

189 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:09:34pm

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

Well, sorry to hope you are wrong so strongly.

So do I, but he has the numbers, the money, and the law for now.

190 compound idaho  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:10:00pm

re: #66 EmmmieG

Whoever killed Jesus, they are dead. God can be their judge.

I'm not real big on blaming the living for things that people who had a few things in common with them and lived thousands of years ago did.

(I probably share genes with some pretty nasty people from the middle ages, so I suppose this is self-serving.)

I am certainly no theologian, but I thought his death on the cross was the whole point. Christianity sure would be different had Jesus passed quietly in sleep after a long fulling life.

191 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:11:11pm

re: #156 ausador

{{{ausador}}}

192 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:11:33pm

Okay scifi fans, seen this trailer? My home town get blown up again. Sheesh why do aliens always pick on LA?

193 Girth  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:13:20pm

re: #186 WindUpBird

Funniest twitter on the internet

Patton is good. Also very funny:

@MayorEmanuel
@DepressedDarth
@MarylandMudflap
@DRUNKHULK

and of course

@StephenAtHome
@SteveMartinToGo

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:13:31pm

re: #192 Rightwingconspirator

Okay scifi fans, seen this trailer? My home town get blown up again. Sheesh why do aliens always pick on LA?

because that's where all the movie studios are and it's cheaper to film there? :D

195 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:13:35pm

re: #190 compound idaho

I am certainly no theologian, but I thought his death on the cross was the whole point. Christianity sure would be different had Jesus passed quietly in sleep after a long fulling life.

Different? That's putting it mildly. The Atonement is the whole point of Christianity.

196 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:13:43pm

re: #193 Girth

Patton is good. Also very funny:

@MayorEmanuel
@DepressedDarth
@MarylandMudflap
@DRUNKHULK

and of course

@StephenAtHome
@SteveMartinToGo

DRUNK HULK!

197 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:15:49pm

re: #192 Rightwingconspirator

Okay scifi fans, seen this trailer? My home town get blown up again. Sheesh why do aliens always pick on LA?

They apparently picked LA this time as an allusion to the Battle of Los Angeles.

198 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:16:02pm

re: #194 WindUpBird

Yeah but most of CSI Miami and Law & Order NY is too. I saw the required notices of filming for J Edgar recently on Hill street near 6th. Glad to see the work happening.

199 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:17:26pm

re: #192 Rightwingconspirator

Okay scifi fans, seen this trailer? My home town get blown up again. Sheesh why do aliens always pick on LA?

I agree. It would be much better if they attacked Moose Jaw.

200 HAL2010  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:18:02pm

What a fucking prick.


And on that pleasant note, I wish you all a good night.

201 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:18:15pm

re: #199 b_sharp

I agree. It would be much better if they attacked Moose Jaw.

Aliens attack Nebraska

then get bored, shrug and leave

202 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:19:21pm

[{ausador}]

I'm glad you were there with him in his final moments.

Peace.

203 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:19:36pm

re: #201 WindUpBird

Well obviously they did not come to earth looking for intelligent life...
//

204 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:20:35pm

re: #203 Rightwingconspirator

Well obviously they did not come to earth looking for intelligent life...
//

Poor Nebraska. Even made fun of in Unforgiven!

205 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:20:51pm

re: #139 moderatelyradicalliberal

You really do know people by the company they keep regularly and Ann does not keep company with the people who read her books and culturally she is not what Palin would call a "real American". She hangs out in West Hollywood, goes clubbing with Bill Maher and was engaged to Bob Guccione, Jr who owns Penthouse magazine.

I think the Boondocks has her pegged

[Link: video.adultswim.com...]

So, Ann's engaged to Bob Guccione, Jr, huh? Kind of liked Guns n' Roses' take on him...

206 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:21:12pm

Hell RWC, I got one better for ya. The movie wasn't even filmed in the right LA. Apparently, for tax reasons, they filmed it in Louisiana.

207 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:21:13pm

re: #203 Rightwingconspirator

Well obviously they did not come to earth looking for intelligent life...
//

Anyone capable of building a spaceship is capable of finding MIT or Caltech on a map.

208 palomino  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:22:55pm

re: #5 Charles

It's becoming increasingly mainstream on the right wing to take inhuman, completely insane positions on abortion.

Exactly. This isn't just the gop being back in power. The rhetoric now from the gop on abortion is even more extreme than it was in 2000-2006 when the gop controlled everything. So much for the idea that the TP influence wasn't connected to social issues.

209 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:23:16pm

re: #206 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

OMG, LOL. The "other LA" Maybe they got the guns from Red Jacket. Fun reality show "Sons Of Guns".

210 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:26:05pm

re: #205 talon_262

Get In the Ring! Awesome :D

211 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:26:22pm

re: #208 palomino

Exactly. This isn't just the gop being back in power. The rhetoric now from the gop on abortion is even more extreme than it was in 2000-2006 when the gop controlled everything. So much for the idea that the TP influence wasn't connected to social issues.

yes

212 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:27:10pm

But Megan Kelly says there are never Nazi references on Fox...

This must be a liberal commie nazi plant - and a false flag attack...

////

OK more seriously, the past few days has seemed to be a race to the bottom with the GOP freakazoids - and let's be really clear, Fox is the voice of the GOP.

So a raped woman is a sinner - on the order of Nazi Eugenicists - for not wanting to carry her rapist's baby according to these monsters.

Where is the part where the decent people of America, start talking seriously and in loud voices that we will not tolerate such mindless evil? Where is the part where someone has the balls (not some pundit, but an actual politician, with an actual position) to call evil for what it is? Where is the equivalent march on DC from folks who don't want to see this republic sent down the tubes by a bunch of soulless plutocrats who stoke the most base responses of the most ignorant, stupid and heartless of America?

When do the good guys truly say enough is enough and call these scum vermin to their fat faces? Where is the outcry? Where are the people who care? Why do we allow little chipmunk faced abominations like Rove to run policy behind the scenes or fat bastards like Murdoch to brainwash the masses without challenge?

These people lie. Why are we not calling them on it publicly? Why are we not organizing? And I don't just mean us lizards. I mean where are the Dems? Where are all the unions and the educated people and the people who like having health care and the people who want to live in a clean environment instead of a post corporate industrial moonscape?

Where we are is disunified and easily picked off one at a time. Where we are is gutless and perfectly willing to whine, but not willing to get out there and fight and we are paying a terrible price for our cowardice.

213 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:33:14pm

re: #208 palomino

Exactly. This isn't just the gop being back in power. The rhetoric now from the gop on abortion is even more extreme than it was in 2000-2006 when the gop controlled everything. So much for the idea that the TP influence wasn't connected to social issues.

I don't think anybody who was actually paying attention saw the Tea Party as anything more than what they really are: The far-right that Reagan hitched his presidency to becoming ascendant once again. What we saw last year was not "The People" rising up after being "Taxed Enough." It was the bible-thumpers, the fruitloops, the crazy uncles that the GOP had tried so hard to keep hidden riding a wave of anti-Obama sentiment.

214 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:35:58pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

May you have much comfort.

215 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:40:34pm

re: #156 ausador

OT: I was with Dad at Hospice from 7:00am watching him struggle to breath against the pneumonia and the edema in his belly. He finally passed away about 3:30 this evening. At least I had time to get my brother, sister, brother-in-law, aunt, and the two older nephews down there. I guess that is about as good as it gets, being drugged and comfortable with your family there to support your going.

I loved you Dad, and even though I am sorry your gone I'm very glad that you don't have to fight and suffer anymore. R.I.P.

May God comfort you and all other mourners.

216 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:42:13pm

My piece for Talking Points Memo drew the attention of one of VDARE's Neanderthal writers.

Google cache link: [Link: vdare.com...]

217 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:43:09pm

re: #156 ausador

My condolences for your loss.

218 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:44:54pm

re: #216 Charles

My piece for Talking Points Memo drew the attention of one of VDARE's Neanderthal writers.

Google cache link: [Link: vdare.com...]

"Help, help, I'm bein' repressed!"

219 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:45:06pm

re: #216 Charles

My piece for Talking Points Memo drew the attention of one of VDARE's Neanderthal writers.

Google cache link: [Link: vdare.com...]

Honestly Charles, that looks like a great resume to me. If scum like the folks at V-dare hate you for writing the truth, then you are doing all the right things.

220 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:51:48pm

re: #195 EmmmieG

Emmie--for something neat and spooky, go to :20 in this vid.

221 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:55:17pm

re: #216 Charles

My piece for Talking Points Memo drew the attention of one of VDARE's Neanderthal writers.

Google cache link: [Link: vdare.com...]

Money quote:

No, Charles Johnson is wrong—if we have a persecution complex, it's because people like him, Ezra Klein's TPMCafe, and the SPLC are persecuting us. And many of us have the persecution marks to prove it.

Since when does calling people out for what they really are equal persecution? They realllllyy hate that, because it exposes that they are xenophobic, bigoted shitheels who should not be let near civilized society or its reins of political power.

/put that in your pipe, Fulford, and smoke it...

222 Big Joe  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:59:57pm

re: #216 Charles

My piece for Talking Points Memo drew the attention of one of VDARE's Neanderthal writers.

Google cache link: [Link: vdare.com...]

He sounds very butt-hurt. Should that be hyphenated or one word? I read his examples but they don't seem to support his hypothesis that he's unfairly persecuted.

223 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:01:05pm

re: #221 talon_262

Money quote:

Since when does calling people out for what they really are equal persecution? They realllyy hate that, because it exposes that they are xenophobic, bigoted shitheels who should not be let near civilized society or its reins of political power.

/put that in your pipe, Fulford, and smoke it...

Sounded to me like the standard "I hate being called on my bullshit!" whine.

224 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:02:14pm

re: #221 talon_262

What the hell is a persecution mark?

225 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:02:26pm

Distraught mom berates guilty judge in cash scheme

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

226 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:04:48pm

re: #221 talon_262

Money quote:
"No, Charles Johnson is wrong—if we have a persecution complex, it's because people like him, Ezra Klein's TPMCafe, and the SPLC are persecuting us. And many of us have the persecution marks to prove it"

Allow me to encapulate vdare's argument in picture form.

227 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:05:58pm

re: #224 Obdicut

What the hell is a persecution mark?

Maybe it looks like the whip marks on the dead horse they keep beating...

228 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:07:12pm

re: #216 Charles

My piece for Talking Points Memo drew the attention of one of VDARE's Neanderthal writers.

Google cache link: [Link: vdare.com...]

I think the image on the top of their page is really a Mexican Hairless dog. I wonder whether they know...?

Image: DOGS-articleLarge.jpg

229 Big Joe  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:07:33pm

re: #225 Rightwingconspirator

Distraught mom berates guilty judge in cash scheme

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I think I saw a flash of guilt go across his face for a second.

230 Lidane  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:07:54pm

re: #224 Obdicut

What the hell is a persecution mark?

Something that today's fundie Christians, especially here in the States, wouldn't know a damned thing about. They're so determined to be victims that they see persecution in everything.

231 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:08:26pm

re: #225 Rightwingconspirator

That poor woman.

232 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:10:07pm

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

What I find very fetching is basic hipster-boy look, plus makeup.

Speaking as a transgendered woman, I have no idea why some African American guys hit on me when I am wearing a skirt suit.

Is there something about looking like you just came out of a lawyers office??

The attention is a bit flattering, but I am not about to tell them I am actually married...to a woman.

233 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:11:23pm

re: #224 Obdicut

What the hell is a persecution mark?

It's what you pay your dominatrix a lot of money to give you.

234 Gus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:12:08pm

Palin fail! Palin on breastfeeding:

"No wonder Michelle Obama is telling people to breast-feed their babies," Palin said at an event on Long Island. "Yeah, you better, because the price of milk is so high right now."

Nursing children are not generally given cow's milk to replace breast milk, but instead drink baby formula.

H/T Eric Boehlert:

Oh dear God, Palin thinks nursing babies are fed cow's milk? (See bottom of article); [Link: wapo.st...]

235 andres  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:13:55pm

re: #156 ausador

My condolences to you and your family.

236 JoyousMN  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:14:35pm

re: #33 Obdicut

Also, saying dumb shit like 'rethugs' isn't really going to achieve anything, no matter how little I may think of the GOP right now.

It's just not clever.

I agree and thanks for saying this. I really try not to use that kind of terminology any more. I admit I used some of those sort of things when George W Bush was in office. But I won't do that any more after I realized how juvenile it made me sound. It also completely undercuts your arguments; when I see Barry and Obambi and the like, I just stop reading.

Broad brush strokes can be problematic for dialog too. When I see "you stupid liberals" it has the same effect.

Now I'm not perfect about this, I'm sure I get riled up and sarcastic (especially talking about someone like Beck) but I'm really trying to not use derogatory terms.

Who knows if it helps, but it's my small gesture toward civility.

237 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:15:30pm

re: #156 ausador

I am so very sorry. My prayers are with you.

238 Big Joe  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:16:19pm

re: #236 JoyousMN

I prefer to be called "Libtard", even though I'm a democrat and not really a liberal.

239 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:20:43pm

re: #224 Obdicut

What the hell is a persecution mark?

In the of VDare, it's an impression of Charles' bicycle cleats on their collective ass.

240 Tigger2005  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:21:08pm

re: #42 freetoken

As mentioned by Wikipedia:

Paul didn't worship any historical figure. He had no knowledge whatsoever of a thirty-ish bearded prophet/agitator/revolutionary who was nailed to a cross on Calvary. He has nothing to say about this person. What he worships, which he makes abundantly clear in his letters, is a dying/rising redeemer figure who descended into the lower heavens, took on the "likeness" of flesh, and was put to death by the demon rulers of that region (only to descend into Hades, free the captives there, and rise back up through the heavens in glory). It's a completely mythological Christ he worships, that has nothing to do with any actual person.

The Gospels were written after Paul, and show no sign of being historical accounts of remembered events. They're constructed out of Scripture...they're allegorical tales about a mythological figure

241 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:21:13pm

re: #236 JoyousMN

I agree and thanks for saying this. I really try not to use that kind of terminology any more. I admit I used some of those sort of things when George W Bush was in office. But I won't do that any more after I realized how juvenile it made me sound. It also completely undercuts your arguments; when I see Barry and Obambi and the like, I just stop reading.

Broad brush strokes can be problematic for dialog too. When I see "you stupid liberals" it has the same effect.

Now I'm not perfect about this, I'm sure I get riled up and sarcastic (especially talking about someone like Beck) but I'm really trying to not use derogatory terms.

Who knows if it helps, but it's my small gesture toward civility.

I'll admit, I used "Dear Leader" to refer to President (-elect) Obama, up until probably right after his inauguration. IIRC, when Charles cracked the whip in the spring of 2009 on Mandy and others that were using derogatory names for the President, I stopped it. Looking back, I was acting like a putz, rolling with the herd.

242 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:21:32pm

re: #231 Obdicut

Indeed. As part of his sentence he should have to face that from them all.

243 JoyousMN  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:25:18pm

re: #156 ausador

My condolences. My Dad passed away two years ago and I still miss him. Good that all of you were with him and with each other. Being there for your Dad is something you will always remember and treasure.

244 JoyousMN  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:29:01pm

re: #238 mracb

I prefer to be called "Libtard", even though I'm a democrat and not really a liberal.

LOL, that's one of my _favorites_ too.

245 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:32:05pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

In the case of VDare, it's an impression of Charles' bicycle cleats on their collective ass.

246 JoyousMN  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:33:28pm

re: #241 talon_262

I'll admit, I used "Dear Leader" to refer to President (-elect) Obama, up until probably right after his inauguration. IIRC, when Charles cracked the whip in the spring of 2009 on Mandy and others that were using derogatory names for the President, I stopped it. Looking back, I was acting like a putz, rolling with the herd.

That's why I said I know I did it with Bush and now I wish I hadn't. It's the old hate the sin but love the sinner line: I can state why I don't agree with his policies without demeaning him.

It's why I like it here. I like the dialog with both sides. Though I have to say that every time I find a Republican blogger I can respect and argue with they shift left. John Cole, Charles, E.D Kain...

*grin* must be the water...

247 wee fury  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:39:44pm

re: #156 ausador

Deepest sympathy to you and your family.

248 sagehen  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:40:35pm

re: #246 JoyousMN

Though I have to say that every time I find a Republican blogger I can respect and argue with they shift left. John Cole, Charles, E.D Kain...

*grin* must be the water...


They're not shifting left, they're not moving at all; it's the supposed center line that's moving, and people who used to be comfortably on its right suddenly aren't.

249 Canuckistan  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:49:31pm

Wonder what Beck thinks about chemical castration for rapists. That's preventing a subset of society from reproducing, so would he argue that chemical castration is a modern version of eugenics?

250 prairiefire  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 5:55:33pm

re: #212 LudwigVanQuixote

I agree that I am paying the price in my red state. But I have been fighting it since 2003. There are physically about 35% more of them liberals here. They win in a democracy.

251 JoyousMN  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 6:06:01pm

re: #248 sagehen

They're not shifting left, they're not moving at all; it's the supposed center line that's moving, and people who used to be comfortably on its right suddenly aren't.

Yes, I know. It's just been funny. I keep trying to be open-minded and read more "right-wing" bloggers, then they stop being right. It's my own personal joke.

252 calochortus  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 6:56:18pm

re: #156 ausador
I'm only just catching up here, but better late than never.

My deepest condolences. My mom died at home, with us, a few years ago. It was a hard time, but I'm so grateful that we were able to do that for her.

253 Querent  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 8:09:25pm

Moral DERPitude, Exhibit G, for Glenn...

254 Querent  Sat, Feb 19, 2011 9:18:11pm

re: #125 WindUpBird

i take it that means FURther CONfusion...

255 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Feb 20, 2011 1:25:49am

re: #224 Obdicut

What the hell is a persecution mark?

A Reichsmark?

256 CuriousLurker  Sun, Feb 20, 2011 12:52:44pm

re: #156 ausador

{{ausador}}


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