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Yeah, let’s bring a camel to Wisconsin. Egypt, Wisconsin, camels. It probably sounded like a guaranteed laugh riot, in the Daily Show’s production meeting.

But reality has a way of intruding on bad show biz ideas. Apparently, they forgot that Wisconsin has snow and ice in February.

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283 comments
1 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:14:29pm

Oh man, that poor thing has probably never stood on snow. Looks like he was having a hard time with the slipping.

2 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:15:02pm

Poor animal. The Daily Show is going to hear about this.

3 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:15:21pm

Why.

4 brookly red  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:15:47pm

re: #1 BigPapa

Oh man, that poor thing has probably never stood on snow. Looks like he was having a hard time with the slipping.

re: #2 Gus 802

Poor animal. The Daily Show is going to hear about this.

I would be OK with criminal charges…

5 brookly red  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:18:17pm

re: #4 brookly red

re: #2 Gus 802

I would be OK with criminal charges…

in fact I demand them.

6 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:18:48pm

I hope that fence piece the poor camels leg was trapped in did not break that leg in the fall. Damn.

7 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:19:41pm

re: #2 Gus 802

Poor animal. The Daily Show is going to hear about this.

And they should. He could have broke his leg if he didn’t.

8 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:20:13pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Why.

They wanted to liken the protests Madison to those in Cairo. Not really a close analogue, though. Gov. Walker was honestly elected, after all.

9 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:20:19pm

Someone is a real dumbass.

10 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:21:04pm

The camel stands up in the end.

11 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:21:44pm

re: #5 brookly red

in fact I demand them.

What charge?

12 wee fury  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:21:54pm

That is so NOT funny. Animal cruelty in my opinion.
[Link: asci.uvm.edu…]

13 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:21:54pm

re: #6 Rightwingconspirator

I hope that fence piece the poor camels leg was trapped in did not break that leg in the fall. Damn.

Acording to this article posted downstairs, it seemed OK:

After several minutes, firefighters free the camel and the animal is able to stand up and walk.
14 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:22:06pm

re: #10 JasonA

The camel stands up in the end.


[Video]

I’m not getting anything or is it just me. Anyway, glad s/he’s standing.

15 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:22:13pm

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Someone is a real dumbass.

I would like to note that camels are generally incredibly recalcitrant sons of bitches that are difficult to persuade to do anything at all.

16 SpaceJesus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:22:21pm

Idiots

17 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:22:23pm

Dromedary or Bactrian?

Bactrian’s are snow beasts.

18 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:22:33pm

So, the camel trainers, owners, handlers didn’t know about this?

Wasn’t the animal properly shoed?

19 the yankee  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:22:54pm

I bet you that Camel is from Wisconsin. Do you really think The Daily show could afford to bring a Camel all the way from Egypt.

20 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:23:21pm

re: #18 ggt

So, the camel trainers, owners, handlers didn’t know about this?

Wasn’t the animal properly shoed?

Shod.

21 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:23:23pm

re: #17 austin_blue

Dromedary or Bactrian?

Bactrian’s are snow beasts.

It’s a dromedary. Bactrians have two humps.

Where did they find a camel in Wisconsin, anyway, and for what purpose?

22 brookly red  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:24:14pm

re: #11 Obdicut

What charge?

cruelty.

23 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:28pm

re: #18 ggt

So, the camel trainers, owners, handlers didn’t know about this?

Wasn’t the animal properly shoed?

Can’t do that with a camel, as they don’t have hoofs. They have soft feet that cannot be shod as a horse would be.

24 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:41pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Shod.

And being an even-toes ungulate, it’s never shod.

25 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:43pm

re: #21 Alouette

It’s a dromedary. Bactrians have two humps.

Where did they find a camel in Wisconsin, anyway, and for what purpose?

The could bring it from a zoo. We have a live nativity down the street every Christmas and they have a “ancient village” which includes sheep, goats and camels.

26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:44pm

Notice that the Daily Show’s John Oliver told the guy shooting the video to turn his camera off.

27 lostlakehiker  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:44pm

Going off topic right quick, I wonder what immigration-concerned Republicans will think about this little prospect that ties in with AGW?

50 million refugees

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Fifty million “environmental refugees” will flood into the global north by 2020, fleeing food shortages sparked by climate change, experts warned at a major science conference that ended here Monday.

“In 2020, the UN has projected that we will have 50 million environmental refugees,” Cristina Tirado, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, said at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

“When people are not living in sustainable conditions, they migrate,” she said, outlining with the other speakers how climate change is already impacting the amount of food we have — food security — and food safety, or the healthfulness of that food.

Southern Europe is already seeing a sharp increase in what has long been a slow but steady flow of migrants from Africa, many of whom risk their lives to cross the Straits of Gibraltar into Spain from Morocco or sail in makeshift vessels to Italy from Libya and Tunisia.

The flow recently grew to a flood after a month of protests in Tunisia, triggered by food shortages and widespread unemployment and poverty, brought down the government of long-time ruler Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, said Ewen Todd, a professor at Michigan State University, predicting there would be more of the same.

Food prices are soaring. Partly, it’s because prices across the board are soaring, and partly, that’s because we’re issuing a lot of money. But part of the problem is that there’ve been some crop failures here and there. Drought in Russia, flooding in Pakistan, etc. These have always happened, so it’s hard to be absolutely sure that this is signal not noise. Still.

Sometimes, by the time the signal is “air raid pearl harbor this is no drill”, you’re wishing you’d heeded the first, slightly ambiguous radar sighting.

28 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:51pm

re: #14 marjoriemoon

I’m not getting anything or is it just me. Anyway, glad s/he’s standing.

Youtube has been having some odd links lately.

Try this.

29 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:25:54pm

My god you people are soft. The animal got his foot stuck in the fence and eventually got back up. Probably could of happen in the best of weather.

30 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:26:01pm

re: #24 austin_blue

And being an even-toes ungulate, it’s never shod.

Toed.

PIMF

31 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:26:19pm

re: #21 Alouette

It’s a dromedary. Bactrians have two humps.

Where did they find a camel in Wisconsin, anyway, and for what purpose?

Well, they have camels at the Milwaukee County Zoo (I’m a member there).

32 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:26:29pm

re: #26 Charles

Notice that the Daily Show’s John Oliver told the guy shooting the video to turn his camera off.

Yeah. That was kind of creepy.

33 freetoken  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:27:33pm

re: #27 lostlakehiker

I think they are rushing the timing and numbers on that a bit… but as the decades go by mass migrations do change societies and bring about fundamental changes.

Europe could see quite an increase in immigration from Africa.

34 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:28:09pm

re: #19 the yankee

I bet you that Camel is from Wisconsin. Do you really think The Daily show could afford to bring a Camel all the way from Egypt.

Thanks for clearing that up.

35 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:28:41pm

re: #27 lostlakehiker

Going off topic right quick, I wonder what immigration-concerned Republicans will think about this little prospect that ties in with AGW?

50 million refugees

Food prices are soaring. Partly, it’s because prices across the board are soaring, and partly, that’s because we’re issuing a lot of money. But part of the problem is that there’ve been some crop failures here and there. Drought in Russia, flooding in Pakistan, etc. These have always happened, so it’s hard to be absolutely sure that this is signal not noise. Still.

Sometimes, by the time the signal is “air raid pearl harbor this is no drill”, you’re wishing you’d heeded the first, slightly ambiguous radar sighting.

“Whiskey’s for drinkin’, water’s for fightin’.”

Old Texas adage, more relevant today than ever before.

36 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:29:01pm

re: #28 Gus 802

Youtube has been having some odd links lately.

Try this.


[Video]

Thanks Gus, yes I saw hit on P.S.’s link above it.

37 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:29:04pm

re: #29 The Yankee

My god you people are soft. The animal got his foot stuck in the fence and eventually got back up. Probably could of happen in the best of weather.

They put an animal in a frightening situation, for LAUGHS, and it slipped and fell. It could have broken a leg and then they would have had to put it down.

And you’re fine with that?

38 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:30:04pm

Didn’t whatshisname take camels over the alps into Italy from Spain? Along with elephants?

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Can’t do that with a camel, as they don’t have hoofs. They have soft feet that cannot be shod as a horse would be.

re: #30 austin_blue

Toed.

PIMF

Thanks for clearing that up! So the camel is really suited for the desert. Seems like they could have booties like the sled dogs.

39 brookly red  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:30:19pm

re: #33 freetoken

I think they are rushing the timing and numbers on that a bit… but as the decades go by mass migrations do change societies and bring about fundamental changes.

Europe could see quite an increase in immigration from Africa.

and Africa could see quite an increase in immigration from China… lots of forces at play here.

40 freetoken  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:30:19pm

Um, wrong kind of camel for snow. This is what they needed, but Mongolia is not quite the same as Egypt.

41 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:30:38pm

re: #29 The Yankee

My god you people are soft. The animal got his foot stuck in the fence and eventually got back up. Probably could of happen in the best of weather.

And in the best of weather it still would have been a stupid idea.

42 wee fury  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:31:24pm

re: #29 The Yankee

My god you people are soft. The animal got his foot stuck in the fence and eventually got back up. Probably could of happen in the best of weather.

A responsible animal owner would never have put his/her animal in a situation that the Camel found itself in. (poor weather conditions, poor fencing, no bedding, standing/falling on hard concrete, etc.).

43 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:31:26pm

re: #38 ggt

Didn’t whatshisname take camels over the alps into Italy from Spain? Along with elephants?

Hannibal. Most of the elephants died during the trip, few made it to Italy.

44 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:31:39pm

re: #34 Gus 802

Thanks for clearing that up.

Sorry for the straw-man, I just met that the camel probably lives there or near that state. The animal was obviously distress. But that happens when ever you work with animals. Though it would kind of suck if that animal had to be put down cause it got hurt during a stunt for a 10 second joke.

45 shai_au  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:31:41pm

It was very stupid of them. They’ll probably release some sort of apology, as well they should. I hope they’ll put a little more thought into these things from now on.

46 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:31:55pm

re: #21 Alouette

It’s a dromedary. Bactrians have two humps.

Where did they find a camel in Wisconsin, anyway, and for what purpose?

Circus, petting zoo, private farm, etc.

47 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:31:56pm

re: #37 Charles

They put an animal in a frightening situation, for LAUGHS, and it slipped and fell. It could have broken a leg and then they would have had to put it down.

And you’re fine with that?

I am definitely NOT okay with that. But then again, given the invasion of Iraq, and given that the animal was uninjured in the end…

Let’s just call it stupid and move on.

IMHO

48 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:32:09pm

re: #40 freetoken

Um, wrong kind of camel for snow. This is what they needed, but Mongolia is not quite the same as Egypt.

ah! That’s what I was thinking of.

49 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:33:03pm

re: #38 ggt

Didn’t whatshisname take camels over the alps into Italy from Spain? Along with elephants?

Hannibal? Yes, he did. They did very poorly on the passage, and when his brother Hasdrubal crossed the Alps he left the camels behind. Horses and Oxen were much better in the cold (though Hasdrubal crossed at a warmer time of year).

50 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:33:11pm

re: #37 Charles

I, personally, agree with you, that people shouldn’t do shit like this.

But we still have legal horse-racing, which takes place for just as trivial a reason, and winds up with injured animals all the time.

Of course, those animals live pampered lives the rest of the time.

51 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:33:47pm

re: #37 Charles

They put an animal in a frightening situation, for LAUGHS, and it slipped and fell. It could have broken a leg and then they would have had to put it down.

And you’re fine with that?

Exactly…stupid gag is stupid.

I would have thought The Daily Show crew would have had more sense than this…they’re damn lucky the camel’s apparently OK.

52 CarleeCork  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:33:54pm

re: #50 Obdicut
And dog racing…..

53 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:34:08pm

re: #44 The Yankee

Sorry for the straw-man, I just met that the camel probably lives there or near that state. The animal was obviously distress. But that happens when ever you work with animals. Though it would kind of suck if that animal had to be put down cause it got hurt during a stunt for a 10 second joke.

OK

54 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:34:09pm

The people involved did seem rather concerned. The handler didn’t leave the animal and seemed to be working to keep it calm.

I really don’t understand what Wisconson firefighters could contribute that the handlers couldn’t.

55 webevintage  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:34:24pm

Damn, thank would have been such a hilarious segment…but yeah, not cool guys and such a massive fail and I hate seeing animals in distress.

Let’s try getting laughs with fake animals instead (unless you are making a cat video, then you need real cats…but don’t try to ride them.)
Yeesh…..

56 wee fury  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:34:41pm

re: #50 Obdicut

I, personally, agree with you, that people shouldn’t do shit like this.

But we still have legal horse-racing, which takes place for just as trivial a reason, and winds up with injured animals all the time.

Of course, those animals live pampered lives the rest of the time.

Hugely poor comparison.
As is my above sentence structure.

57 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:34:42pm

re: #54 ggt

The people involved did seem rather concerned. The handler didn’t leave the animal and seemed to be working to keep it calm.

I really don’t understand what Wisconson firefighters could contribute that the handlers couldn’t.

extra hands and stratergizing.

58 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:34:47pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Hannibal? Yes, he did. They did very poorly on the passage, and when his brother Hasdrubal crossed the Alps he left the camels behind. Horses and Oxen were much better in the cold (though Hasdrubal crossed at a warmer time of year).

Thank you.

59 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:35:15pm

re: #55 webevintage

Yes. oliver in a camel outfit would have been far funnier.

I hate all the youtube videos of people blowing pot smoke in their pet’s faces, too. What the fuck is up with that?

60 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:35:32pm

re: #56 wee fury

Hugely poor comparison.
As is my above sentence structure.

Feel free to, you know, say why you think it’s a poor comparison.

61 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:35:53pm

Some roles are just better suited to giant puppets.

62 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:36:14pm

re: #59 Obdicut

Yes. oliver in a camel outfit would have been far funnier.

I hate all the youtube videos of people blowing pot smoke in their pet’s faces, too. What the fuck is up with that?

Thoughtless cruelty would be the phrase that comes to mind.

63 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:36:22pm

re: #37 Charles

They put an animal in a frightening situation, for LAUGHS, and it slipped and fell. It could have broken a leg and then they would have had to put it down.

And you’re fine with that?

Short answer yes and no. I seen tons of movies with horse falling and animals doing dangerous things. So it doesn’t totally bother me the reason why they had the animal in those conditions (which is for a joke).
The execution was bad at least for that moment.
So do you guys not like having animals being used in entertainment at all?

64 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:36:33pm

re: #61 jaunte

Some roles are just better suited to giant puppets.

See, Code Pink does have a good idea once in a while :)

65 webevintage  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:36:46pm

re: #59 Obdicut

Yes. oliver in a camel outfit would have been far funnier.

I hate all the youtube videos of people blowing pot smoke in their pet’s faces, too. What the fuck is up with that?

OMG! Seriously?
I had no idea…that’s like getting your dog drunk, funny maybe, but not nice at all.

66 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:37:25pm

I went to Egypt in January of 1980. It was cold and foggy the day my mob and I went to the Pyramids. The camels were blowing a lot of steam but there was no ice. Some of my colleagues had apparently slept through part of the briefing and did not bother to bring warm clothes. They didn’t realize Cairo would be cold in January. I asked them if they ever looked at a map. If they had they would have seen that Cairo is about as far north as Lubbock. The temperature in that part of the world will get down around freezing, or a little below at times, but snow and ice are practically unheard of.

Camels, btw, are really mean, ill-tempered bastards, practically 4-legged baboons. Of course, I actually rather like baboons. According to my treasured 1963 World Book Encyclopedia, they are “hard fighters,” and “fierce, quarrelsome animals,” but “take tender care of their young.”

67 CarleeCork  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:37:51pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon
Immaturity comes to my mind.

68 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:37:59pm

re: #59 Obdicut

Yes. oliver in a camel outfit would have been far funnier.

I hate all the youtube videos of people blowing pot smoke in their pet’s faces, too. What the fuck is up with that?

Pot smokers tend to be fucking idiots.

69 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:38:07pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Thoughtless cruelty would be the phrase that comes to mind.

or sometimes, shit just goes wrong. I’m pretty sure a Wisconsin camel is used to snow.

70 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:38:08pm

re: #54 ggt

The people involved did seem rather concerned. The handler didn’t leave the animal and seemed to be working to keep it calm.

I really don’t understand what Wisconson firefighters could contribute that the handlers couldn’t.

Maybe it was just the manpower they needed. It’s quite a large animal to get untangled and firefighters are good with getting people and animals unstuck.

God bless Colbert who settled for Christianne Amanpurrr.

71 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:38:22pm

re: #65 webevintage

OMG! Seriously?
I had no idea…that’s like getting your dog drunk, funny maybe, but not nice at all.

I don’t know. Did the dog get lucky?

;-)

72 webevintage  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:38:36pm

re: #65 webevintage

OMG! Seriously?
I had no idea…that’s like getting your dog drunk, funny maybe, but not nice at all.

Not that I have ever done that to one of my dogs…just to be clear…I only make them wear stupid hats or stick tape on their faces and LOL as they try to get it off.

73 wee fury  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:40:01pm

re: #60 Obdicut

Feel free to, you know, say why you think it’s a poor comparison.

No, thanks.
Will not get into a debate that will go nowhere.
Thanks, anyway.

74 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:40:18pm

Well, like it or not, without a way to make the animals profitable, we would have less of them—or way, way too many. Depending on the animal.

I’m thinking of the whole horse-meat controversy.

75 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:40:20pm

re: #29 The Yankee

Not fucking funny. I deal with yahoos and four legged animals all the time, and a lot of times animals get hurt, maimed, or injured to the point they have to be euthanized all because some idiot decided to do something unsafe or they were totally unqualified to do.

Animals don’t get to choose, and they’re at the mercy of their handlers. Their handlers owe it to them to keep them safe and not abuse them either directly, or by consequence of their ridiculously stupid and cruel things they attempt to do with them. The best they can offer when it all goes wrong is, “Gee, sorry.” or “Gosh, I didn’t know…”

For these people, I recommend buffalo or grizzlies as housepets.

76 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:40:32pm

re: #59 Obdicut

Yes. oliver in a camel outfit would have been far funnier.

I hate all the youtube videos of people blowing pot smoke in their pet’s faces, too. What the fuck is up with that?

It’s a horrible thing to force a living being to do something it wouldn’t do on its own. Would you do that to your kid? Of course not.

77 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:40:33pm

re: #72 webevintage

Not that I have ever done that to one of my dogs…just to be clear…I only make them wear stupid hats or stick tape on their faces and LOL as they try to get it off.

Peanut butter on the roofs of their mouths.

Endless hilarity.

78 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:41:15pm

re: #50 Obdicut

I, personally, agree with you, that people shouldn’t do shit like this.

But we still have legal horse-racing, which takes place for just as trivial a reason, and winds up with injured animals all the time.

Rodeos seem to be far worse.

79 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:41:19pm

Best Barbara Walters quote just now on CNN: “He tried to pitch a tent in Westchester.”

80 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:41:51pm

re: #71 austin_blue

I don’t know. Did the dog get lucky?

;-)

Cats seem to enjoy cat nip.

:0

81 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:42:15pm

Alright. I’m going to go to bed.

Animals are nifty. We should be nice to them.

This message brought to you by the Don’t Be A Dick, Man, Foundation.

82 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:42:18pm

re: #13 publicityStunted

Acording to this article posted downstairs, it seemed OK:

Whew!

83 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:42:29pm

re: #78 publicityStunted

Rodeos seem to be far worse.

The barrel racing is nice :)

My cousin and I went to the rodeo once. We had no clue and just thought it would be a fun day. I was horrified.

But the barrel racing was nice :)

84 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:43:06pm

re: #77 austin_blue

Peanut butter on the roofs of their mouths.

Endless hilarity.

my dog LOVES peanut butter. I enjoy watching him lick the spoon, then his teeth, then his jowels, then his ears … .

85 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:44:02pm

O/T
This morning I promised to page a few shots from my photo assignment today at the factory of my employer. So, paged it is.

86 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:44:06pm

I’m a big fan of the Daily Show. But this was a real fuck-up, and I hope Jon Stewart apologizes for it.

87 freetoken  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:44:08pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

88 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:44:47pm

re: #86 Charles

I’d bet a very nice lunch he will. He is a class act.

89 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:45:03pm

re: #75 theheat

So are you guys against using animals for stunts?
I am for animal rights as well, just but not to the level of PETA. I just think that what happened in that video is not out of the ordinary. Also sort of think it was reasonable chance if the animal has been on snow before.

90 reine.de.tout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:45:42pm

re: #63 The Yankee

Short answer yes and no. I seen tons of movies with horse falling and animals doing dangerous things. So it doesn’t totally bother me the reason why they had the animal in those conditions (which is for a joke).
The execution was bad at least for that moment.
So do you guys not like having animals being used in entertainment at all?

I think it’s fine to put animals in distressing and frightening situations “for a joke” about as often as you’ve ever had a spelling/grammar lesson.

That is, never.

91 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:45:55pm

There are camels at the Madison Zoo - as an exhibit and as riding animals run by some local group. I’ve never cared to ride one so I can’t say much more than that. That said it’s a silly bit that didn’t end badly, thankfully. But it’s no worse than when they bring cows on the concourse every June (dairy month, you know.) Holstein’s aren’t too bright, even by dairy standards, and anything out of their routine bothers them.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:46:33pm

Ah, Jaysus. That poor animal. What a dumbass thing to do.

93 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:46:34pm

re: #50 Obdicut

Actually, a good many racehorse don’t live pampered lives when their racing career is over, or they weren’t competitive. Look up what happened to Kentucky Derby winner Ferdinand. A pampered retirement is a fairy tale sold to the public so they can sleep at night thinking about all the pretty horsies living better than they do.

Horse slaughter is not humane. Don’t even get me started. I’ve been in the trenches with this issue and all the bullshit reasons idiots think it’s “necessary” for more than a decade and it’s the fastest way to raise my blood pressure or get popped in the chops if you’re within standing distance.

94 CarleeCork  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:46:43pm

re: #78 publicityStunted

Rodeos seem to be far worse.


Mr. Cork and I attended the stock show rodeo this year and I remembered why I don’t like them. Talk about cruelty!

95 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:47:10pm

The poltroons at the Daily Show really dodged a bullet on this one. If the camel had broken a leg, it would almost certainly have had to be put down. The Daily Show would see its rating go to zero, its revenue disappear, and its name cursed and reviled from coast to coast.
The producers would have to deal with all this only after they bailed out of the Milwaukee lock-up and they would still have to return for trial, in a city and state that are noted for animal friendly attitudes.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:47:14pm

re: #1 BigPapa

Oh man, that poor thing has probably never stood on snow. Looks like he was having a hard time with the slipping.

It looks to me like it tries to manage for a couple of seconds and then just goes down and plans to stay down.

97 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:47:30pm

re: #89 The Yankee

So are you guys against using animals for stunts?
I am for animal rights as well, just but not to the level of PETA. I just think that what happened in that video is not out of the ordinary. Also sort of think it was reasonable chance if the animal has been on snow before.

I think the one guy fucked-up by leading the camel thru the snow/slush and not onto the clear part of the street. And building the paddock around him seems a little lazy.

Personally, I think the animal would be much less freaked out if the fence parts were in place before he was take from the truck. Then he would know exactly where he was supossed to go and there wouldn’t be the noise from moving the fence parts.

98 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:48:30pm

re: #89 The Yankee

I’m for using people for stunts, since they get to choose, and they can prepare and take precautions. I’m not for putting an animal through hell for entertainment, no. And I’m certainly against anything that results in harm or abuse to the animal.

99 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:50:05pm

Like it or not the owner of the animal made the choice to allow him to be used.

Where exactly do you want to draw the line between property rights and animal rights? As it is the “animal cop” budget is pretty low in most large municipalities.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:50:26pm

re: #19 the yankee

I bet you that Camel is from Wisconsin. Do you really think The Daily show could afford to bring a Camel all the way from Egypt.

I assume they rented it from some local place that has animals for advertisers and filmmakers and such.

101 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:51:44pm

re: #99 ggt

Where exactly do you want to draw the line between property rights and animal rights? As it is the “animal cop” budget is pretty low in most large municipalities.

People’s property rights don’t give them free license to harm or abuse an animal any more than they give free rein to harm or abuse anything else living, like their kids.

102 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:52:09pm

re: #89 The Yankee

So are you guys against using animals for stunts?

When animals are used in stunts, serious precautions are taken to make sure they don’t get hurt.

Do you really not see the difference between carefully staged animal stunts, and this botched attempt at humor, with NO safety precautions visible at all?

103 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:52:14pm

Ot: Rush: “Dare I Say This: It Doesn’t Look Like Michelle Obama Follows Her Own Nutritionary, Dietary Advice”

The problem is — and dare I say this — it doesn’t look like Michelle Obama follows her own nutritionary, dietary advice. And then we hear that she’s out eating ribs at 1,500 calories a serving with 141 grams of fat per serving, yeah it does — what do you mean, what do I mean?

What is it - no, I’m trying to say that our First Lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you.

Throw up yet?

104 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:52:17pm

re: #89 The Yankee

So are you guys against using animals for stunts?
I am for animal rights as well, just but not to the level of PETA. I just think that what happened in that video is not out of the ordinary. Also sort of think it was reasonable chance if the animal has been on snow before.

Dangerous stunts are done these days with graphics anyway, like the horse scenes in LOTR. Actually, that’s a few horses running and then the imaged is copied over and over. The falling is all graphics.

Animals performing is not a problem. Animals being subjected to dangerous situations is always wrong. The animal doesn’t have a say so in that.

105 webevintage  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:52:53pm

re: #99 ggt

Like it or not the owner of the animal made the choice to allow him to be used.

Where exactly do you want to draw the line between property rights and animal rights?

Wherever the invisible hand of the market draws it?
/

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:53:24pm

re: #38 ggt

Didn’t whatshisname take camels over the alps into Italy from Spain? Along with elephants?

re: #30 austin_blue

Thanks for clearing that up! So the camel is really suited for the desert. Seems like they could have booties like the sled dogs.

Hannibal. And I have no idea. Did he have camels?

107 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:53:26pm

re: #101 theheat

People’s property rights don’t give them free license to harm or abuse an animal any more than they give free rein to harm or abuse anything else living, like their kids.

iirc, if the animal is fed, sheltered and sees the vet regularly, the owner is in compliance with the law.

My question was about the law. What can we feasibly do and how much can we afford to spend?

108 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:53:39pm

re: #91 wlewisiii

There are camels at the Madison Zoo - as an exhibit and as riding animals run by some local group. I’ve never cared to ride one so I can’t say much more than that. That said it’s a silly bit that didn’t end badly, thankfully. But it’s no worse than when they bring cows on the concourse every June (dairy month, you know.) Holstein’s aren’t too bright, even by dairy standards, and anything out of their routine bothers them.

The issue was the animal slipping on ice (apparently) and getting caught in the barricade which is a situation someone should have thought about.

109 steve_davis  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:53:39pm

re: #71 austin_blue

I don’t know. Did the dog get lucky?

;-)

good thing about being a dog is that if you wake up with a dog, you got lucky!

110 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:53:54pm

re: #105 webevintage

Wherever the invisible hand of the market draws it?
/

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his ungulate?

111 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:54:00pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

It looks to me like it tries to manage for a couple of seconds and then just goes down and plans to stay down.

Icy streets are just nasty. It’s even worse if you’re not used to it.

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:54:01pm

re: #40 freetoken

Um, wrong kind of camel for snow. This is what they needed, but Mongolia is not quite the same as Egypt.

I used to teach some Mongolian kids. One of them was telling me that his uncle had camels, and explained that they were the two-humped kind.

113 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:54:20pm

re: #93 theheat

Actually, a good many racehorse don’t live pampered lives when their racing career is over, or they weren’t competitive. Look up what happened to Kentucky Derby winner Ferdinand. A pampered retirement is a fairy tale sold to the public so they can sleep at night thinking about all the pretty horsies living better than they do.

Horse slaughter is not humane. Don’t even get me started. I’ve been in the trenches with this issue and all the bullshit reasons idiots think it’s “necessary” for more than a decade and it’s the fastest way to raise my blood pressure or get popped in the chops if you’re within standing distance.

Ditto for greyhounds. I know a lot of friends who work for Greyhound rescue in Miami and others who have adopted them.

114 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:54:25pm

re: #43 BigPapa

Hannibal. Most of the elephants died during the trip, few made it to Italy.

Elephants were not really designed by nature to go over Alps.

115 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:54:29pm

re: #102 Charles

When animals are used in stunts, serious precautions are taken to make sure they don’t get hurt.

Except in Mexico and some foreing countries. Look at old spaghetti Westerns, or Conan The Barbarian (filmed in Spain, I believe). Horse tripping is/was one of the most common stunts, and led to a lot of broken legs and dead animals. Absolutely barbaric.

116 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:54:29pm

re: #103 JasonA

Ot: Rush: “Dare I Say This: It Doesn’t Look Like Michelle Obama Follows Her Own Nutritionary, Dietary Advice”

Throw up yet?

What an idiot! Because she doesn’t look like Halle Berry?

117 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:09pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Hannibal. And I have no idea. Did he have camels?

Dark Falcon and austin blue answered that above. Quite well too!

118 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:11pm

re: #103 JasonA

Ot: Rush: “Dare I Say This: It Doesn’t Look Like Michelle Obama Follows Her Own Nutritionary, Dietary Advice”

“I’m trying to say that our First Lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you.”

And Rush doesn’t project the image of a man I would want within 1,000 feet of my person under any circumstances for any reason.

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:38pm

re: #50 Obdicut

I, personally, agree with you, that people shouldn’t do shit like this.

But we still have legal horse-racing, which takes place for just as trivial a reason, and winds up with injured animals all the time.

Of course, those animals live pampered lives the rest of the time.

Also, racehorses seem to like to race. That camel clearly did not approve of the situation he was in.

120 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:41pm

re: #103 JasonA

There’s a man with a lot of cheek, as they say.

121 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:50pm

re: #116 ggt

What an idiot! Because she doesn’t look like Halle Berry?

Yes. Let’s tell women that even if they Michelle Obama’s body they’re not all that.

122 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:55pm
123 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:55:56pm

re: #115 theheat

Except in Mexico and some foreing countries. Look at old spaghetti Westerns, or Conan The Barbarian (filmed in Spain, I believe). Horse tripping is/was one of the most common stunts, and led to a lot of broken legs and dead animals. Absolutely barbaric.

I know that used to be the case, but those kinds of stunts haven’t been used in the US for many years.

124 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:56:31pm

re: #105 webevintage

Wherever the invisible hand of the market draws it?
/

I guess that is the answer.

I’d like to think that every animal owner would treat their animals like I do mine. Fact is, they don’t.

This situation with the camel was obviously not well planned or executed. If any actual laws were broken? I don’t know.

125 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:56:33pm

re: #107 ggt

“I you can’t feed it, don’t breed it.”

Not having the resources to properly care for something doesn’t grant anyone immunity for failing to care for it. Either own it and take care of it, or don’t own it.

126 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:57:36pm

g’night people (and camels).

127 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:57:38pm

re: #87 freetoken

[Video]

Excellent, if a bit sad. I salute our courageous primate brother, defeated by superior numbers but only after he put one of the big cats to flight and showed them up for the big pussies they really are.

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:57:45pm

re: #65 webevintage

OMG! Seriously?
I had no idea…that’s like getting your dog drunk, funny maybe, but not nice at all.

My dad gave the dog wine once or twice. My mom got on his case about it.

129 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:57:59pm

re: #118 publicityStunted

And Rush doesn’t project the image of a man I would want within 1,000 feet of my person under any circumstances for any reason.

Exactly, like he has room to talk. …

130 webevintage  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:58:21pm

re: #110 JasonA

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his ungulate?

We need to be careful or all the camels will go Galt and then where will we be?

(BTW have y’all seen the trailer for Who is John Galt movie?)

131 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:58:30pm

re: #129 ggt

Exactly, like he has room to talk… .

He has plenty of… room.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:58:30pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

I went to Egypt in January of 1980. It was cold and foggy the day my mob and I went to the Pyramids. The camels were blowing a lot of steam but there was no ice. Some of my colleagues had apparently slept through part of the briefing and did not bother to bring warm clothes. They didn’t realize Cairo would be cold in January. I asked them if they ever looked at a map. If they had they would have seen that Cairo is about as far north as Lubbock. The temperature in that part of the world will get down around freezing, or a little below at times, but snow and ice are practically unheard of.

Camels, btw, are really mean, ill-tempered bastards, practically 4-legged baboons. Of course, I actually rather like baboons. According to my treasured 1963 World Book Encyclopedia, they are “hard fighters,” and “fierce, quarrelsome animals,” but “take tender care of their young.”

I like camels. They’re smart, bad-tempered SOBs.

133 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:58:31pm

re: #103 JasonA

Ot: Rush: “Dare I Say This: It Doesn’t Look Like Michelle Obama Follows Her Own Nutritionary, Dietary Advice”

Throw up yet?

Oh yea, that big tub of lard has some nerve talking about what other people are eating! LOL

134 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:58:44pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

Stay Classy, Rush, you worthless choad.

He has 3 hours a day to fill up. Talk about dead fucking air, harping on the First Lady.

Priceless comment in the MM comments section:

‘Michelle is only guilty of being First Lady While Black.’

135 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:58:56pm
136 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:59:14pm

re: #103 JasonA

Ot: Rush: “Dare I Say This: It Doesn’t Look Like Michelle Obama Follows Her Own Nutritionary, Dietary Advice”

Throw up yet?

This coming from an obese, Manzere™ wearing, knuckle dragging, windbag that sounds like a steam powered animatron? Typical misogynist stupidity.

137 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:59:44pm

re: #123 Charles

Most US movies today have some note at the bottom of the credits that say “no animals were harmed in the making of this film,” or say it was filmed under supervision by one of the major animal welfare groups.

In Mexico, Spain, parts of Europe - there’s often no boundaries.

138 The Yankee  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 7:59:57pm

re: #102 Charles

It just seem like most of the posters were against The Daily Show using an animal for a silly stunt. I disagree with that. I also think that using a camel that is probably use to the snow in snow isn’t a horrific idea either.
Also even if all the precautions were taken accidents can still happen. That said it doesn’t look like they were well prepared. And that might have more to do with the animals handlers then The Daily Show.
The people who owned the animal should of made better decisions, and The Daily Show should of known the odds of something like this happening in the best situation and should of decided on rather it is worth the risk to their rep.

139 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:01:00pm

re: #125 theheat

Not having the resources to properly care for something doesn’t grant anyone immunity for failing to care for it. Either own it and take care of it, or don’t own it.

If the animal was brought in from Egypt, the owner should sue the hell out of The Daily Show and the city of Madison for the slippery streets. They want democracy? Suing is the American way!! hehe

140 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:01:52pm

Does anyone consider this abusive?

141 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:02:20pm

re: #138 The Yankee

It just seem like most of the posters were against The Daily Show using an animal for a silly stunt [because the chance of injury is inherent - no, why would anyone be against that?]. I disagree with that. I also think that using a camel that is probably use to the snow in snow isn’t a horrific idea either [obviously, see how well it turned out?].

Read what you just wrote, then take your right hand, reach around, and pull your head out of your ass. It might take two hands, so pull hard.

142 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:02:32pm

re: #140 ggt

Does anyone consider this abusive?


[Video]

The cat made his choices…

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:03:18pm

re: #103 JasonA

Ot: Rush: “Dare I Say This: It Doesn’t Look Like Michelle Obama Follows Her Own Nutritionary, Dietary Advice”

Throw up yet?

Yes, because what Michelle Obama said was that if you ate healthy foods, you would have the figure of a slightly anorexic goddess, and if she can’t prove that, it’s solid evidence that healthy eating is a hoax.

///

144 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:03:26pm

re: #140 ggt

It won’t play for me. Definitely abusive.

145 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:03:36pm

re: #140 ggt

Does anyone consider this abusive?


[Video]

It’s not nice, I guess. Freaked out the cat, but not abusive.

146 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:04:06pm

re: #137 theheat

Most US movies today have some note at the bottom of the credits that say “no animals were harmed in the making of this film,” or say it was filmed under supervision by one of the major animal welfare groups.

In Mexico, Spain, parts of Europe - there’s often no boundaries.

yes, and this is a good thing.

I don’t know if it is compliance based on public opinion or compliance under the law.

147 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:04:26pm

Behold the vision of manly beauty. The Adonis. The anal cyst…

Image: rush-limbaugh-old.jpg

148 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:05:04pm

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, because what Michelle Obama said was that if you ate healthy foods, you would have the figure of a slightly anorexic goddess, and if she can’t prove that, it’s solid evidence that healthy eating is a hoax.

///

Hey, is that the logic behind mocking AGW because it’s cold out, too?

149 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:05:21pm

re: #146 ggt

It’s compliance under guidelines set by animal welfare groups the movie studios agree to adhere to. Basic care, ground preparation, avoiding injury, etc.

150 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:05:23pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Behold the vision of manly beauty. The Adonis. The anal cyst…

Image: rush-limbaugh-old.jpg

Oh Lord have mercy. Most people look better when they’re younger!

151 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:05:58pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Behold the vision of manly beauty. The Adonis. The anal cyst…

Image: rush-limbaugh-old.jpg

Love the porn ‘stache.

152 BryanS  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:06:36pm

Normally, the camel would probably be ok walking around, but Madison today was pretty much a glare ice city from an ice storm we had the previous night.

153 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:06:50pm

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, because what Michelle Obama said was that if you ate healthy foods, you would have the figure of a slightly anorexic goddess, and if she can’t prove that, it’s solid evidence that healthy eating is a hoax.

///

Rush is beside himself with jealously because no woman with her good looks, brains and style would ever give him the time of day.

154 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:06:58pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Isn’t that Ron Jeremy?

155 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:07:03pm

re: #140 ggt

Does anyone consider this abusive?


[Video]

Yes. If you’re just playing with a cat, that’s fine. But trying to get the cat to slip and run into something is wrong.

156 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:07:27pm

re: #154 jaunte

Isn’t that Ron Jeremy?

I was thinking Rob Reiner in All in the Family. I.e. Meathead.

157 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:08:05pm

re: #156 Gus 802

I got distracted by the shirt/tie pattern combo.

158 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:08:38pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Yes. If you’re just playing with a cat, that’s fine. But trying to get the cat to slip and run into something is wrong.

That’s the thing with cats. Some will like it, others will be totally freaked out.

kinda like humans.

159 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:09:15pm
160 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:09:34pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Behold the vision of manly beauty. The Adonis. The anal cyst…

Image: rush-limbaugh-old.jpg

He looks better now.

161 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:09:41pm

re: #152 BryanS

Normally, the camel would probably be ok walking around, but Madison today was pretty much a glare ice city from an ice storm we had the previous night.

Chicago got luckier. We also had rain, but not a freeze. We did have an ice storm this winter, and it was nasty.

162 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:09:51pm

re: #159 Gus 802

Zardoz!

163 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:10:06pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Chicago got luckier. We also had rain, but not a freeze. We did have an ice storm this winter, and it was nasty.

Roads in my part of the world got slippery after sunset.

164 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:10:30pm

re: #159 Gus 802

Yikes!

Image: 340x.jpg

Come, son of Jorel, and KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:11:00pm

Conan just made a funny joke.
(as I remember it)
“President Obama filled in as his daughter Sasha’s basketball teams coach yesterday. It seems that she listened to her dad and ended up driving down the middle every play and pissing everyone off.”

166 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:11:33pm

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist

He looks better now.

This what he looks like now…

Image: ex_rush_limbaugh_headshot.jpg

Far from being able to say anything about the FLOTUS.

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:11:39pm

Snowing like a mofo right now in Philly.

168 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:12:39pm

re: #163 ggt

Roads in my part of the world got slippery after sunset.

It was a bit better up north, but some of that might have been the salt trucks.

169 Four More Tears  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:13:29pm

re: #166 Gus 802

This what he looks like now…

Image: ex_rush_limbaugh_headshot.jpg

Far from being able to say anything about the FLOTUS.

Those teeth look unnaturally perfect.

170 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:13:44pm

re: #166 Gus 802

This what he looks like now…

Image: ex_rush_limbaugh_headshot.jpg

Far from being able to say anything about the FLOTUS.

You know, not terrible. Middle-aged dude. I’d think he looked fine if he was someone’s dad.

But the idea that healthy eating is somehow disproven because a woman in her late forties doesn’t have the body of a twenty-year-old swimsuit model—OY.

171 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:14:19pm
172 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:15:03pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Image: dune%201984%20baron.jpg

No workie.

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:15:33pm

re: #172 Gus 802

No workie.

I think you can guess.

174 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:15:35pm

re: #166 Gus 802

This what he looks like now…

Image: ex_rush_limbaugh_headshot.jpg

Far from being able to say anything about the FLOTUS.

AND another example of objectifying women.

She’s not the current Western vision of lovliness, so we can find a way (following diets) to scorn her.

Every see Beyonce out of costume on the cover of those rags at the grocery store? She is solid muscle, but not a perfect hourglass shape. Most women don’t look that great in “street” clothes, regardless of their figure.

If the condition of Michelle’s arms are any indication, she spends time a the gym.

175 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:15:36pm

re: #170 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, not terrible. Middle-aged dude. I’d think he looked fine if he was someone’s dad.

But the idea that healthy eating is somehow disproven because a woman in her late forties doesn’t have the body of a twenty-year-old swimsuit model—OY.

Or that you can’t eat some ribs after you’ve indoctrinated America’s youth to eat arugula: HYPOCRITE COMMUNIST.

Rush is really an ugly person. Despite his physical appearance.

176 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:16:36pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Ugh bad link….
Image: Baron-Vladimir-Harkonnen.jpg

177 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:17:18pm

Is it just me, or have we been having more “bad linkys” since Charles fiddled with the link adjustments a few days ago?

178 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:17:26pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Ugh bad link…
Image: Baron-Vladimir-Harkonnen.jpg

YOUR DISEASES ARE MY CHILDREN

179 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:17:58pm

re: #177 ggt

Is it just me, or have we been having more “bad linkys” since Charles fiddled with the link adjustments a few days ago?

The bad links I’ve posted were my own stupidity.

180 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:18:27pm

re: #175 BigPapa

Or that you can’t eat some ribs after you’ve indoctrinated America’s youth to eat arugula


I think that’s the chickensaladhawk logical fallacy.

181 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:18:38pm

re: #179 mracb

The bad links I’ve posted were my own stupidity.


The bad links I’ve posted were my own stupidity too.

182 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:18:54pm

re: #178 WindUpBird

YOUR DISEASES ARE MY CHILDREN

That would be this guy.

Image: Nurgle.jpg

183 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:19:13pm

re: #180 jaunte

I think that’s the chickensaladhawk logical fallacy.

Chickensaladhawk? How Jauntean!

184 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:19:20pm

re: #179 mracb

re: #181 Killgore Trout

ok, maybe it’s because I’m on mostly at night?

:0

185 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:19:41pm

re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That would be this guy.

Image: Nurgle.jpg

OMG! That is the spitting image of Rush!

186 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:19:48pm

I went over to my mom’s and cooked dinner for her. Sesame oil is really strong. I’m still tasting it three hours later.

187 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:19:53pm

re: #184 ggt

re: #181 Killgore Trout

ok, maybe it’s because I’m on mostly at night?

:0

Mostly.

/Newt mode

188 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:20:59pm

re: #186 mracb

I went over to my mom’s and cooked dinner for her. Sesame oil is really strong. I’m still tasting it three hours later.

hmmm, I’ve never noticed that effect of sesame oil. Are you sure you aren’t really smelling it on your clothes and that is making your brain remember the taste?

189 What, me worry?  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:21:18pm

re: #174 ggt

AND another example of objectifying women.

She’s not the current Western vision of lovliness, so we can find a way (following diets) to scorn her.

Every see Beyonce out of costume on the cover of those rags at the grocery store? She is solid muscle, but not a perfect hourglass shape. Most women don’t look that great in “street” clothes, regardless of their figure.

If the condition of Michelle’s arms are any indication, she spends time a the gym.

Actually, she is the vision of loveliness, in my mind anyway. She has a great figure. I should have such a nice figure.

Few middle-aged women look like anorexic swimsuit models. And if he thinks that she’s promoting “cardboard and tofu”, he doesn’t know anything about healthy eating. But obviously, that’s a given.

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:21:43pm

re: #186 mracb

I went over to my mom’s and cooked dinner for her. Sesame oil is really strong. I’m still tasting it three hours later.

I have some in my cabinet. I don’t know what to use it for.

I’m afraid.

191 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:21:50pm

re: #185 ggt

OMG! That is the spitting image of Rush!

Nurgle is a lot more fun than Rush.

192 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:22:52pm

Frankly, I think if Michelle’s coutiers were working to make her less of a First Lady and more of a vixen, they wouldn’t have such a hard time. Tiny waist, flat abs, and CURVES!

193 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:23:06pm

Grrrrrrr.

194 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:23:20pm

Michelle Obama is the first FOTUS since Jackie O that is attractive. The cartoon a few days ago showing her fat and chowing down on bad food was pretty rank. I like raw and off color humor as much as anybody, even uber dry, but that was just gross.

195 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:23:40pm

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have some in my cabinet. I don’t know what to use it for.

I’m afraid.

I used a 1/2 teaspoon and some cornstarch to flavor 2 lbs of shrimp. I did it about 45 minutes before cooking so maybe they absorbed more than the normal amount of flavor. (recipe said 10 minutes)

196 theheat  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:24:33pm

re: #15 Obdicut

I would like to note that camels are generally incredibly recalcitrant sons of bitches that are difficult to persuade to do anything at all.

Actually, with care and training, camels and many other animals, are capable of performing amazing things. Witness this. In costume, no less:

FWIW - My old pet banty hen did tricks.

197 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:25:39pm

I saw a Page about Anonymous saying ‘It’s war!’ today, and something about V for Vendetta. I can’t stop thinking ‘Foulke Off! and Foulke You you Foulking Foulke!’

‘For Foulke’s Sake!’

198 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:25:50pm

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have some in my cabinet. I don’t know what to use it for.

I’m afraid.

Tofu bulgogi
[Link: koreanrecipes.org…]

199 efuseakay  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:26:18pm

Frackin’ idiots. Geez. Camels are mean, but that’s just wrong. WTF did they think would happen? Ugh.

200 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:26:27pm

Checking the bottle, it’s Toasted Sesame Oil, maybe I got the wrong stuff.

201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:29:00pm

re: #200 mracb

I’m almost toasted. Last night? Totally toasted.

202 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:29:18pm

What’s a ‘burke?’

Letters of Note

203 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:29:28pm

We found a new Mediterranean restaurant in our area today. hmmmmmm!

Eggplant au gratin (with some sort of spice blend I decided not to try to figure-out) spread on bread. OMG!

Spiced veggies on hummus and rice.

and water.

204 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:30:51pm

re: #202 BigPapa

What’s a ‘burke?’

Letters of Note

No idea.

I don’t like Dawkin’s war on religion. I find it as offensive as Creationism.

205 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:31:16pm

Sorry, all, but I have to turn in. Good night, sweet dreams.

206 BryanS  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:31:47pm

Off topic but…


UN council to discuss Libya

An extraordinary meeting of the Arab League will also take place on Tuesday as leaders express alarm over crackdown.

OK, when other Arab League countries are freaked out by your extreme acts of oppression, perhaps it’s time to tone it down some//

207 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:33:17pm

Burke (v.) Look up Burke at Dictionary.com
family name (first recorded 1066), from Anglo-Norman pronunciation of O.E. burgh. Not common in England itself, but it took root in Ireland, where William de Burgo went in 1171 with Henry II and later became Earl of Ulster. As shorthand for a royalty reference book, it represents “A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the United Kingdom,” first issued 1826, compiled by John Burke (1787-1848). As a verb meaning “murder by smothering,” it is abstracted from William Burk, executed in Edinburgh 1829 for murdering several persons to sell their bodies for dissection.

from the online etymology dictionary.

208 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:33:58pm

re: #177 ggt

I’m blaming youtube for this one, kinda odd-Copy and pasting works… It failed earlier I have no idea why…

209 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:34:13pm

Off topic, but I just found this:

Shay_JR‎ RT @NZStuff: US Ambassador @DavidHuebner says he’s having difficulty locating former Dep Sec of State Richard Armitage.

I think we all see the problem of us not knowing were the Deputy Secretary of State is.

210 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:34:54pm

re: #206 BryanS

After the events of the past 72 hours, I sincerely hope he’s gone by the end of the week.

211 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:36:05pm

re: #209 ProLifeLiberal

Looks like they found him:
[Link: twitter.com…]

212 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:36:45pm

re: #208 Rightwingconspirator

I’m blaming youtube for this one, kinda odd-Copy and pasting works… It failed earlier I have no idea why…


[Video]

One was embed was disabled by YouTube.

2nd worked fine.

Nice link.

213 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:36:49pm

re: #209 ProLifeLiberal

Update, he’s been found and is being evacuated somewhere. Sorry for false alarm.

214 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:38:28pm

re: #213 ProLifeLiberal

Update, he’s been found and is being evacuated somewhere. Sorry for false alarm.

I’m lost on this one. Where is he?

215 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:40:37pm

re: #212 ggt

Thanks, I used links not embeds in the original page & post. But I got no code skills at all. Only Charles making it easy lets me do any of this.

216 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:40:46pm

re: #214 ggt

Richard Armitage was in Canterbury, NZ for a regional conference of some sort. He was found is being taken somewhere.

217 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:41:22pm

re: #216 ProLifeLiberal

Richard Armitage was in Canterbury, NZ for a regional conference of some sort. He was found is being taken somewhere.

ah, thanks for the update.

218 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:41:45pm

re: #215 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks, I used links not embeds in the original page & post. But I got no code skills at all. Only Charles making it easy lets me do any of this.

I still can’t get a search on Pages to work. …

219 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:42:57pm

re: #216 ProLifeLiberal

Richard Armitage was in Canterbury, NZ for a regional conference of some sort. He was found is being taken somewhere.

Was he anywhere near the quake center?

220 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:42:59pm

Radio New Zealand building in the city collapsed, leaving 200 trapped.

[Link: www.3news.co.nz…]

221 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:45:26pm

re: #219 ggt

Yeah, right in it. Christchurch area to be specific.

222 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:46:01pm

re: #221 ProLifeLiberal

Yeah, right in it. Christchurch area to be specific.

yegh my kiwi friend’s family lives there :P

223 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:47:53pm

Set the record straight!

Buffalo’s Muslims Battle Stereotype After Murder

Remla Parthasarathy, an instructor at the Women, Children, and Social Justice Clinic at University at Buffalo Law School, says the Hassan murder was a clear-cut case of domestic abuse.

“Honor killings are something that is sanctioned and approved by the extended family, that wasn’t the case here,” she said. “Religious leaders in the Muslim community came out and denounced it and they said it wasn’t an honor killing and I respect that.”

In fact, no one could recall ever seeing Mo Hassan at the mosque.

As time went on, Muslim community leaders were presented with a stark choice: either allow others to stereotype the community or move aggressively to redefine the killing. They came up with a novel approach: embark on a domestic violence education campaign that allowed them to battle the honor killing stereotype while at the same time providing new protection for battered women in the community.

Domestic abuse had been an issue in the immigrant and Muslim communities of Western New York all along. But according to Kathy Jamil, the principal of a local Islamic school, it was something that was kept under wraps.

No one wanted to admit it was a problem, “but when this happened everyone wanted to respond — they had to respond — because it became really real for them,” she said. “I think a lot of that was because Islam was under attack.”

Whatever the motivation, leaders in the community began setting up town hall meetings and discussion groups.

“There were trainings for imams, training for the community,” said Suzanne Tomkins, who founded the Social Justice Clinic at University at Buffalo Law School. “They brought in national and other speakers to talk about this issue. And we’re starting to see a great deal more collaboration.”

Two years after the murder, she says imams are still holding local meetings, and asking for advice on how to spot domestic abuse and trying to figure out the best ways to report it.

224 freetoken  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:50:36pm

Gallery of photos from Christchurch:

[Link: www.brisbanetimes.com.au…]

225 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:50:51pm

Since I knew very little about it, I thought I’d share what I just read.

Strong Quake Causes Injuries In New Zealand

226 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:54:23pm

re: #224 freetoken

Gallery of photos from Christchurch:

[Link: www.brisbanetimes.com.au…]

[Link: www.daylife.com…]

227 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:55:10pm

my IRC friend sent this youtube link of Christchurch.

228 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:55:14pm

Image: x999.jpg

The four-storey Pyne Gould Corporation building lies in ruin in central Christchurch February 22, 2011. A strong quake hit New Zealand’s second-biggest city of Christchurch on Tuesday for the second time in five months, toppling buildings, causing “multiple fatalities,” trapping people beneath rubble and sparking fires.

229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:57:10pm

Poor freakin’ camel. What did he do to them?

230 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:57:43pm

re: #228 Gus 802

Four stories accordianed into 1-1.5 stories. Very bad situation. There were around 200 people trapped in it earlier.

231 prairiefire  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 8:59:49pm

Has there been a camel toe joke yet? I’m catching up.

232 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:00:26pm

re: #231 prairiefire

Has there been a camel toe joke yet? I’m catching up.

No, we’ve all remained gentlemen.

233 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:01:23pm

re: #227 mracb

Part of that video was surreal. Major earthquake going on, and right afterwards, a guy is sweeping a small amount of dirt out of the street. This Youtube comment is a good summary.

WTF is up with the dude sweeping? The Titanic is sinking, let’s wash the windows.

234 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:02:18pm

re: #230 ProLifeLiberal

Four stories accordianed into 1-1.5 stories. Very bad situation. There were around 200 people trapped in it earlier.

Rescue operations are still underway. The 200 number is probably from this report:

2.50pm – One lady trapped on the roof of the Pyne Gould Guiness building has been rescued by the Fire Service. The building has been completely demolished; a witness on the street outside says she estimated there would have been 200 people inside.

Currently they are saying that there are 30 people trapped in that building.

Now “trapped” is a general description because that implies that all people remaining in the building are still alive. The lower number sounds more accurate.

235 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:04:42pm

re: #234 Gus 802

Thanks for the information. I went off that report it seems like. Thanks again for the update.

236 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:06:22pm

I have a friend on the north island, she hasn’t been online since the quake but I don’t she can feel those quakes on the south island. I was hoping she’d pop up on IRC soon.

237 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:07:06pm

Jesus Crispies staying classy…..Hope for Hitchens?: Finding the Way in the Land of Malady

Christopher Hitchens complains that Christians hope that he, in his esophageal cancer, should find God. But perhaps the Christians have a point.


Good luck with that.
/

238 prairiefire  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:07:29pm

Drat, I can’t find a good Sally O’Malley clip. Molly Shannon, the first to do camel toe on network TV.

239 prairiefire  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:07:48pm

re: #238 prairiefire

Drat, I can’t find a good Sally O’Malley clip. Molly Shannon, the first to do camel toe on network TV.

On purpose.

240 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:09:38pm
Christopher Hitchens may or may not find the Way, the Truth and the Life in the midst of such extraordinary hardship. But it is there for him, waiting to be found. Suffering makes us visible to ourselves in all our poverty and powerlessness, and discloses the secret that the one thing needful can never be taken away, and in our suffering we may hear the call of the suffering Christ. Perhaps it is true, for Hitchens as for many of us, that the Way can be found nowhere else. Perhaps some have to pass through the valley of the shadow of death in order to learn that the Lord is their shepherd, whose goodness and love will follow them all their days and take them to dwell in the house of the Lord forever.


Go fuck yourself.

241 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:11:26pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

From The Big Kahuna:

Phil Cooper: It doesn’t matter whether you’re selling Jesus or Buddha or civil rights or ‘How to Make Money in Real Estate With No Money Down.’ That doesn’t make you a human being; it makes you a marketing rep. If you want to talk to somebody honestly, as a human being, ask him about his kids. Find out what his dreams are - just to find out, for no other reason. Because as soon as you lay your hands on a conversation to steer it, it’s not a conversation anymore; it’s a pitch. And you’re not a human being; you’re a marketing rep.
242 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:14:08pm

Live news from Christchurch…

[Link: www.abc.net.au…]

243 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:14:29pm

NZ news latest info for the quake.

[Link: www.stuff.co.nz…]

244 prairiefire  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:16:30pm

i did not know NZ even had an active fault line.

245 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:18:18pm

re: #244 prairiefire

i did not know NZ even had an active fault line.

Yep, big dangerous ones. They are probably more prone to big quakes than CA, but less than Chile.

246 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:20:05pm

re: #244 prairiefire

i did not know NZ even had an active fault line.

Image: plates1.gif

247 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:21:06pm

re: #244 prairiefire

i did not know NZ even had an active fault line.

I think any land that borders the Pacific is at risk.

248 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:22:48pm

Night all!

Have a great night!

249 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:23:56pm

re: #247 ggt

I think any land that borders the Pacific is at risk.

Many people don’t realize that Alaska, Pacific Canada and the Pacific Northwest are in active seismic zones…it’s the “Ring of Fire” for a reason.

250 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:24:34pm

Well, I’ve got a test tomorrow, so Good Night. Don’t know what to expect in the morning from Libya. And the death toll in New Zealand will have climbed beyond 17.

251 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:26:04pm

Tectonic Summary

The February 21, 2011 South Island, New Zealand earthquake occurred as part of the aftershock sequence of the M 7.0 September 3, 2010 Darfield, NZ earthquake. The February 21st earthquake involved oblique-thrust faulting at the easternmost limit of previous aftershocks, and like the mainshock itself is broadly associated with regional plate boundary deformation as the Pacific and Australia plates interact in the central South Island, New Zealand.

This latest shock is significantly closer to the main population center of Christchurch, NZ, than is the September 2010 mainshock, in the vicinity of several other moderate (M 4 to 5) sized aftershocks located east of the main rupture zone of the 2010 event. There is no specific structure directly linking this event to the main fault of the 2010 mainshock, although there have been numerous aftershocks along generally east-west linear trends extending east from the end of the previous rupture. The north or north-east trends to the possible fault planes and the oblique thrust faulting mechanism as seen in the focal mechanism solution may reflect an association with similarly-trending faults previously mapped in the Port Hills region, just to the south of Christchurch.

Since the September 3, 2010 mainshock, there have been approximately 6 M>=5.0 aftershocks in the Christchurch region. The February 21st earthquake represents the largest aftershock to date, more that half a magnitude unit larger than the previous largest aftershock.

252 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:27:07pm
253 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:29:53pm

re: #247 ggt

I think any land that borders the Pacific is at risk.

New Madrid is probably the scariest fault in the USA.

254 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:31:33pm

re: #250 ProLifeLiberal

Well, I’ve got a test tomorrow, so Good Night. Don’t know what to expect in the morning from Libya. And the death toll in New Zealand will have climbed beyond 17.

Death toll is now 65.

255 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:33:56pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

Go fuck yourself.

They just can’t deal with Hitchens, can they?

256 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:36:21pm

re: #255 BigPapa

They just can’t deal with Hitchens, can they?

Some people simply do not deal all that well with the idea that other people’s religious beliefs

257 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:36:42pm

re: #256 SanFranciscoZionist

Some people simply do not deal all that well with the idea that other people’s religious beliefs

Sorry.

Some people simply do not deal all that well with the idea that other people’s religious beliefs are not their business to comment on.

258 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:37:33pm

re: #253 mracb

If Yellowstone goes, a good portion of the west is screwed.

259 Soap_Man  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:41:08pm

Stupid Daily Show. Wisconsin is no place for a camel. They needed to bring one of these bad boys.

I hope someone didn’t already do that. Didn’t actually read all of the comments. :/

260 jaunte  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:41:33pm
261 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:42:37pm

re: #258 prononymous

If Yellowstone goes, a good portion of the west third of the Earth is screwed.

FTFY

262 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:46:12pm

Innocent When You Dream


It’s such a sad old feeling
the fields are soft and green
it’s memories that I’m stelaing
but you’re innocent when you dream
when you dream
you’re innocent when you dream
263 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:50:03pm

re: #258 prononymous

If Yellowstone goes, a good portion of the west is screwed.

but that’s not really a fault, and it’s not as regular as a quake. quakes happen a lot more often, and you can prepare for those. Not much prearation for a super-volcano unless you live 1500 miles away.

264 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 9:57:24pm

re: #263 mracb

but that’s not really a fault, and it’s not as regular as a quake. quakes happen a lot more often, and you can prepare for those. Not much prearation for a super-volcano unless you live 1500 miles away.

Of course, if it produces a verneshot, we’re all screwed.

265 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:01:31pm

re: #264 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course, if it produces a verneshot, we’re all screwed.

My favorite scifi book for re-reading is Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. ;-D

266 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:03:09pm

Same thing, coming from a different direction.

268 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:06:07pm

I saw that show. I think SF is mostly safe. Sucks to be the mid-west.

269 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:08:43pm

re: #268 mracb

I saw that show. I think SF is mostly safe. Sucks to be the mid-west.

Sure. But didn’t you ever see Earthquake (1974) with Charlton Heston?

//

270 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:09:18pm

re: #269 Gus 802

Sure. But didn’t you ever see Earthquake (1974) with Charlton Heston?

//

yes, in Sensurround!

271 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:09:47pm
272 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:12:05pm

re: #271 Gus 802

[Video]

HE HE, what time was that award ceremony? 5:12A.M.?

273 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:14:45pm

Seems like it was 1000 years ago…

NBC News on 1989 San Francisco Earthquake - Oct., 1989!

The death toll here was grossly inflated. I remember we were mumbling about that on the street.

274 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:17:32pm

Brokaw and his Dunkirk reference. Funny.

275 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:18:50pm

I was 60 miles from the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989. We had no structural damage, but I had to deal with lots of traffic lights that suffered damage from power fluctuations, and one short traffic pole that had rusted threads on it’s base and it fell over. I worked till about 11 at might. I would have gone to help in Oakland, but I had been working 16 hours at that point. I think the best video was the start of the baseball game.
.

276 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:29:45pm

I remember an earlier quake where we had the building checked for structural stability. The engineer said, “Yeh it’s ok, these can take an 8.5.” Somebody asked, “How many 5.9’s can it take?” He said, “Oh, three.”

277 Gus  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:33:47pm

Oh brother. Get a load of these baseball fans from 1989 right after the earthquake…

News footage of 1989 San Francisco Earthquake

The chimps begin to gather around 0:45.

278 freetoken  Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:43:09pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

I left a reply at the link in question.

Repeated here:

This essay, or “meditation” as some may wish to call it, is too highly polished. Instead of clarity and reality it packages reconstructed phrases from Evangelical Christian doctrine under the guise of illuminating the situation in which Hitchens finds himself. The excessive use of flowery, and bygone, language (e.g., “hear the call of the suffering Christ”) is a substitute for original thought and understanding.

Suffering is suffering, and if any given person creates some sort of meaning out of it, as Mr. Dalrymple has done with his, then that is a personal experience that frankly may not apply to anyone else.

One could even challenge the doctrines presented, such as “But it is there for him, waiting to be found”, skipping the oft quoted Pauline teaching of “Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. ” Nevertheless this essay does not pretend to discuss theology, but there is plenty of pretense in this essay none the less.

Above all else, what is wrong with this essay is that it is simply exploiting Mr. Hitchens’ suffering for the sake of preaching to the converted, and perhaps also for Mr. Dalrymple to reassure himself of his own convictions of his own chosen position.

279 simoom  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 12:14:21am

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

They wanted to liken the protests Madison to those in Cairo. Not really a close analogue, though. Gov. Walker was honestly elected, after all.

Just a guess, but I’d bet that would have been the point. Usually the Daily Show anchors cover an event in some outrageous/ridiculous fashion and then Stewart back in the studio plays the straight man, acting shocked and dumbfounded by it.

280 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 3:41:27am

re: #86 Charles

I’m a big fan of the Daily Show. But this was a real fuck-up, and I hope Jon Stewart apologizes for it.

Word.

281 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 7:02:11am

re: #138 The Yankee

It just seem like most of the posters were against The Daily Show using an animal for a silly stunt. I disagree with that. I also think that using a camel that is probably use to the snow in snow isn’t a horrific idea either.
Also even if all the precautions were taken accidents can still happen. That said it doesn’t look like they were well prepared. And that might have more to do with the animals handlers then The Daily Show.
The people who owned the animal should of made better decisions, and The Daily Show should of known the odds of something like this happening in the best situation and should of decided on rather it is worth the risk to their rep.

And you should have written “should have” instead of “should of”.

Sorry, my pet peeve.

282 andres  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 7:30:31am

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Hannibal. And I have no idea. Did he have camels?

Sorry for the late reply, but yes, camels were used in warfare. It was a tactical decision: horses aren’t used to the camel’s strong odor and become very frighten when encountering one for the first time. On a time when mounted units were common, camels provided an upper hand.

283 LoWil  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 8:38:59am

Aw poor camel, I wouldn’t even let my cat out in that weather.


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