Indiana Deputy Attorney General Calls for Using ‘Live Ammo’ on WI Protesters

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Last weekend, Indiana deputy attorney general Jeff Cox logged in to Twitter and called for riot police to “use live ammunition” on the demonstrators in Wisconsin. When confronted, Cox doubled down and said, “You’re damned right I advocate deadly force.”

Apparently, Cox was taking a page from the Muammar Gaddafi playbook.

And today, Jeff Cox is in very hot water: Indiana Conducting ‘Immediate Review’ of Official Who Called For Using ‘Live Ammunition’ on Wisconsin Protesters.

The Indiana Attorney General’s Office does not condone the inflammatory statements asserted in the “Mother Jones” article and we do not condone any comments that would threaten or imply violence or intimidation toward anyone. Civility and courtesy toward all constituents is very important to this agency. We take this matter very seriously.

An immediate review of this personnel matter is now under way to determine whether the assertions made in the “Mother Jones” article about an employee are accurate. When that review is complete, appropriate personnel action will be taken.

The reporter who wrote the “Mother Jones” article informs us that the offensive postings over the weekend were made using a personal Twitter account and personal email, not a state government email account.

As public servants, state employees should strive to conduct themselves with professionalism and appropriate decorum in their interactions with the public. This is a serious matter that is being addressed.

UPDATE at 2/23/11 12:19:34 pm

That didn’t take long — Cox has now been fired.

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - The Indiana Attorney General’s office announced Wednesday afternoon its deputy attorney general is no longer employed by the agency, after reviewing political website Mother Jones’ � published allegations that he advocated the use of force against protesters in Wisconsin.

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379 comments
1 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:14:17am

You see that flash of light in the corner of your eye? That’s your career dissipation light. It just went into high gear.

2 jaunte  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:15:00am
…the offensive postings over the weekend were made using a personal Twitter account and personal email, not a state government email account…


‘Being an idiot on his own time’ is not much of an excuse for a deputy attorney general.

3 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:15:31am

Classy! Also, about Planned Parenthood:

Six days ago he opined, “Planned Parenthood could help themselves if the only abortions they performed were retroactive.”

4 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:16:09am

re: #3 abbyadams

Classy! Also, about Planned Parenthood:

He should volunteer for that.

5 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:17:02am

re: #3 abbyadams

Classy! Also, about Planned Parenthood:

He seems like a sensitive soul.

6 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:17:48am

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Someone should be flying dog poop out of Bangkok for this…

7 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:17:50am

This message brought to you by the letter T and the letter 8. thuggery.

8 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:18:01am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

This message brought to you by the letter T and the letter 8. thuggery.

err number.

9 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:18:03am

hey law grads, i smell some jobs opening up

10 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:18:04am

Too late for a job with Mubarak, but he’s sending his resume to Gaddafi as we speak.

11 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:18:05am

If this guy doesn’t lose his job soon, I will have lost what little bit of faith I have left in this country.

12 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:18:25am

Cue the inevitable wingnut martyr brigade calling this an attack on Jeff Cox’s first amendment rights 9_9

13 BigPapa  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:18:52am

Srlsy? OMG.

14 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:19:52am

re: #11 Fozzie Bear

If this guy doesn’t lose his job soon, I will have lost what little bit of faith I have left in this country.

You had faith in our Country at some point, Fozzie?!

I did not know that…..

15 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:20:45am

If by “sensitive soul,” you mean a complete bully with very obvious issues, thenre: #6 lawhawk

Rubber dogsh*t our of Hong Kong, I think it was. I was a 13 year old girl when Top Gun came out. 100+ viewings.

16 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:21:29am

re: #15 abbyadams

Whoops, dunno what happened there. Preview, dammit, preview!!!

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:22:31am

re: #15 abbyadams

If by “sensitive soul,” you mean a complete bully with very obvious issues, then

Rubber dogsh*t our of Hong Kong, I think it was. I was a 13 year old girl when Top Gun came out. 100+ viewings.

You too?

18 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:23:23am

That sound you hear is this guy’s career at the Indiana AG’s office crashing and burning.

OTOH, his career on Fox News should start sometime next week. =P

19 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:23:27am

What was this guy even thinking?

20 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:23:29am

Everytime I hear about “union thugs”, I think of people like this man, a government official no less talking this way.

21 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:23:31am

re: #11 Fozzie Bear

If this guy doesn’t lose his job soon, I will have lost what little bit of faith I have left in this country.

I’m pretty dulled at this point. I expect people to defend his right to call for violence, since they’ve already dug themselves in deep doing so.

22 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:24:01am

re: #15 abbyadams

Yes, you’re right….

23 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:24:06am

anything about this on freep or fox news(big freep)?

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:25:08am

re: #23 SpaceJesus

anything about this on freep or fox news(big freep)?

Big Freep. How cute!

And sadly accurate.

25 Blizard  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:26:04am

It just gets weirder/scarier by the day. Do people not *listen* to themselves?

Maybe investing in more ammo really and stockpiling food really is a good idea?

26 recusancy  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:26:04am

Why are Conservatives on the side of the government telling workers what they can and can’t do?

27 researchok  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:26:44am

The moron ought to be disciplined for not learning anything in kindergarten and for being an idiot.

Then he ought to be disciplined until he learns common sense.

(this is the rewritten version)

28 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:26:54am

it is just raining conservative fail today

29 recusancy  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:27:27am

re: #28 SpaceJesus

it is just raining conservative fail today this century

30 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:27:36am

re: #17 SanFranciscoZionist

Yup, me too. Spent many sleepovers watching and swooning. Meh. What a disappointment Tom Cruise turned out to be.

31 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:28:03am

re: #23 SpaceJesus

anything about this on freep or fox news(big freep)?

Just checked Freeperstan, nothing there yet.

32 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:28:07am

re: #11 Fozzie Bear

If this guy doesn’t lose his job soon, I will have lost what little bit of faith I have left in this country.

Well, if this had been an official state Twitter account, I think there would be no question that he would be out on his ass. Since this was a personal account, though, he may be able to worm his way out of it. Of course, there’s no way he should be allowed to, since, as a public servant, making calls for the use of deadly force (or violence in general) on peaceful protesters is disgusting and should not be tolerated, regardless of where the comments were made.

33 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:28:07am

re: #29 recusancy


bravo

34 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:28:35am

re: #30 abbyadams

I never swooned over Tom Cruise. When it came to Top Gun, I was all about Val Kilmer.

35 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:28:59am

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel


yeah i gave em a quick look, but didnt find much.

fox will probably never post this tho

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:29:24am

re: #34 Lidane

I never swooned over Tom Cruise. When it came to Top Gun, I was all about Val Kilmer.

Yes, but ultimately, didn’t we all want to marry Goose?

37 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:29:37am

re: #19 jamesfirecat

What was this guy even thinking?

He wanted to publicly intimidate the protesters in hopes they’d be afraid of being shot and go home.
I hope this generates enough outrage that some people lose their jobs but I’m not overly hopeful. The wingnuts love their violent rhetoric. This guy might end up getting a promotion. Anything is possible.

38 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:29:38am

re: #25 Blizard

It just gets weirder/scarier by the day. Do people not *listen* to themselves?

Maybe investing in more ammo really and stockpiling food really is a good idea?

You mean I haven’t bought enough?!

39 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:30:14am

re: #23 SpaceJesus

anything about this on freep or fox news(big freep)?

There is literally nothing about this story anywhere on foxnews.com. It isn’t being covered at all there.

40 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:30:14am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but ultimately, didn’t we all want to marry Goose?

Awwwww!

41 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:30:34am

re: #34 Lidane

Oooo, the Iceman. Never did it for me.

Man, I wanted to be Kelly McGillis’ character, though, all shoulderpads and high heels, cool and composed.

42 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:31:14am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Meg Ryan actually… (Goose’s wife).

43 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:31:53am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Goodness Gracious, Great Balls of Fire!

I didn’t even realize that was Meg Ryan until years later.

44 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:32:59am

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

There is literally nothing about this story anywhere on [Link: www.foxnews.com…] It isn’t being covered at all there.

They are still trying to figure if they will make him a 1st Amendment victim (ZOMG THE SEIU THUGS ARE SILENCING COX!!!11ty) or if they want to make him a seekrit librul plant who was told to say those things by Van Jones and the Acorn politburo.

They will get their talking point orders from Rush and go from there.

45 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:33:02am

Deadly Force? By whom? Law Enforcement? The National Guard? The Military?

That statement was beyond STUPID.

It is an example (IMHO) that power is a dangerous drug.

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:33:04am

re: #41 abbyadams

Oooo, the Iceman. Never did it for me.

Man, I wanted to be Kelly McGillis’ character, though, all shoulderpads and high heels, cool and composed.

Damn, she was sexy. And it was so cool that she was the big MIG expert.

“She has a Ph.D. in astrophysics and she’s also a civilian contractor, so you do not salute her. But you’d better listen to her because the Pentagon listens to her about your proficiency. It’s all yours, Charlie.”

47 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:33:30am

re: #19 jamesfirecat

What was this guy even thinking?

“USA! USA! USA!”

48 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:33:36am

re: #34 Lidane

I never swooned over Tom Cruise. When it came to Top Gun, I was all about Val Kilmer.

I could watch that vollyball game over and over and over. It was actually one of the lesser characters that I drooled over.

49 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:33:49am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but ultimately, didn’t we all want to marry Goose?

I can’t remember back that far …

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:34:18am

re: #48 leftynyc

I could watch that vollyball game over and over and over. It was actually one of the lesser characters that I drooled over.

This is hilarious. Who knew that what bound Gen-X women together was Top Gun?

51 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:34:21am

I think this asshole forgot about a little thing called the freedom to assemble. I know it’s not as memorable as speech, religion, press, or even petition but it’s there and has been there since the Bill of Rights was ratified.

52 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:34:27am

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

Damn, she was sexy. And it was so cool that she was the big MIG expert.

“She has a Ph.D. in astrophysics and she’s also a civilian contractor, so you do not salute her. But you’d better listen to her because the Pentagon listens to her about your proficiency. It’s all yours, Charlie.”

Top Gun was a dramatic story about the struggle for one man’s fight between hetero and homo sexuality.

53 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:34:41am

re: #41 abbyadams

Oooo, the Iceman. Never did it for me.

He was more physically impressive than Tom Cruise. That’s what did it for me. Hehe.

These days, I’m all about the most recent Star Trek cast. Lots of good looking men there. :D

54 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:34:43am

re: #15 abbyadams

If by “sensitive soul,” you mean a complete bully with very obvious issues, then

Rubber dogsh*t our of Hong Kong, I think it was. I was a 13 year old girl when Top Gun came out. 100+ viewings.

My reactions to Top Gun?

“That isn’t a Mig. It’s an F5 Tiger painted black with a Russian star. And fighters are designated with odd numbers. That’s a gun shot! If you’re firing a heat seeker why does the exterior shot show a Sparrow dropping away? How can you fire the same missile twice?”

But I do that with most war movies. I like Band of Brothers because I wasn’t constantly going, “Wrong!” I wish I knew where they got Churchill tanks from though.

55 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:35:52am

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

My reactions to Top Gun?

“That isn’t a Mig. It’s an F5 Tiger painted black with a Russian star. And fighters are designated with odd numbers. That’s a gun shot! If you’re firing a heat seeker why does the exterior shot show a Sparrow dropping away? How can you fire the same missile twice?”

But I do that with most war movies. I like Band of Brothers because I wasn’t constantly going, “Wrong!” I wish I knew where they got Churchill tanks from though.

“They” still play the song all the time. I hear it in stores.

I’m really tired of it.

56 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:35:56am

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Top Gun was a dramatic story about the struggle for one man’s fight between hetero and homo sexuality.

Sword fight!

57 McSpiff  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:13am

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

I’m not allowed to talk during Transformer or Iron Man flicks anymore. Apparently they aren’t documentaries and I should just be entertained.

Pfft.

58 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:15am

re: #34 Lidane

Ah, but Val has certainly let himself go these days… those 6-pack abs are more like a kegger and change.

59 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:17am

re: #41 abbyadams

Oooo, the Iceman. Never did it for me.

Man, I wanted to be Kelly McGillis’ character, though, all shoulderpads and high heels, cool and composed.

Exactly! A confident, sexy women with a Ph.D and knows what cool new stuff is coming out of the Sukhoi and Mikoyan Gurevitch design bureaus in Russia.

:)

60 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:22am

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

My wife is like that with medical shows. House is one of the most unrealistic, as awesome as it is— for one thing, all those tests and shit would never be done by the doctors themselves.

Scrubs is actually one of the best at getting what working in a hospital is actually like right.

61 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:52am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

I think this asshole forgot about a little thing called the freedom to assemble. I know it’s not as memorable as speech, religion, press, or even petition but it’s there and has been there since the Bill of Rights was ratified.

Oh, he hasn’t forgotten, but unions are filled with libruls, don’tcha know.

This guy wouldn’t say a goddamn thing if the demonstrations in WI were filled with Tea Party types.

62 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:56am

re: #50 SanFranciscoZionist

This is hilarious. Who knew that what bound Gen-X women together was Top Gun?

A sad, sad generation. Have you already forgotten the Breakfast Club? Me, I’ll hold onto the Brady Bunch and weep sad tears every night that Jan most likely never reached her potential.

63 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:57am

re: #50 SanFranciscoZionist

This is hilarious. Who knew that what bound Gen-X women together was Top Gun?

That movie had something for everyone. Really a “chick flick” with so much action, it was easy to talk the guys into going. I can’t remember the call sign of the one I liked.

64 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:36:58am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but ultimately, didn’t we all want to marry Goose?

See!!! Already, Obama’s decision to not enforce DOMA is leading to women wanting to marry dead people. Don’t say you weren’t warned people.

65 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:37:23am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Sword fight!

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:37:36am

re: #60 Obdicut

My wife is like that with medical shows. House is one of the most unrealistic, as awesome as it is— for one thing, all those tests and shit would never be done by the doctors themselves.

Scrubs is actually one of the best at getting what working in a hospital is actually like right.

Well, then there’s Criminal Minds, where Garcia just taps a couple of keys, and all the information cross-references itself in a matter of seconds…but who really cares?

I love Penelope Garcia.

67 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:37:41am

By the way, this stupid fucker Jeff Cox has also accused Obama of treason.

What’s the penalty for treason again?

68 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:38:07am

re: #60 Obdicut

My wife is like that with medical shows. House is one of the most unrealistic, as awesome as it is— for one thing, all those tests and shit would never be done by the doctors themselves.

Scrubs is actually one of the best at getting what working in a hospital is actually like right.

Like House doing the spinal tap or drilling into someone’s skull in the hospital bed in the hospital room?

69 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:38:12am

re: #58 lawhawk

Heh. Val Kilmer these days is more like a beer truck. It’s depressing because he was hot when he was younger.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:38:32am

re: #61 Lidane

Oh, he hasn’t forgotten, but unions are filled with libruls, don’tcha know.

This guy wouldn’t say a goddamn thing if the demonstrations in WI were filled with Tea Party types.

Can you imagine the wingnutosphere if a deputy AG had proposed firing on the Tea Partiers?

Yeehaw!!

71 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:38:43am

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, then there’s Criminal Minds, where Garcia just taps a couple of keys, and all the information cross-references itself in a matter of seconds…but who really cares?

I love Penelope Garcia.

Dharma’s husband…please.

72 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:38:44am

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Indeed.

73 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:38:59am

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

But I do that with most war movies. I like Band of Brothers because I wasn’t constantly going, “Wrong!” I wish I knew where they got Churchill tanks from though.

Those were Cromwell tanks, btw, rebuilt from British APC’s according to the “Making Of” documentary.

But yes, taking an old surplus US tank. slapping a German cross on it and calling it a Tiger was to me the equivalent of taking a Dodge Dart, mounting a Mercedes star on the hood and calling it an SLK roadster

74 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:39:05am

re: #67 Obdicut

By the way, this stupid fucker Jeff Cox has also accused Obama of treason.

What’s the penalty for treason again?

Watching chick flicks.

75 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:39:18am

re: #68 ggt

Like House doing the spinal tap or drilling into someone’s skull in the hospital bed in the hospital room?

Yes. Or just all the blood tests, fecal tests, CAT scans, etc. And the diseases normally progress at totally unrealistic rates, too.

Also, they’re just all too goddamn gorgeous.

76 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:39:39am

On topic. These are people who agree with Goldwater’s dictum, “Extremism in defence of liberty is no vice.” So they don’t see that killing people for exercising their rights is a bad thing.

Plus it gets their rocks off to say such a thing. It shows what ‘men’ they are, how ‘tough’ they are.

Pretty sad when you think about it.

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:39:41am

re: #62 Jeff In Ohio

A sad, sad generation. Have you already forgotten the Breakfast Club? Me, I’ll hold onto the Brady Bunch and weep sad tears every night that Jan most likely never reached her potential.

The Breakfast Club. Pretty In Pink. Sixteen Candles. Some Kind of Wonderful.

Oh, dear God.

78 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:40:10am

re: #58 lawhawk


he ocassionally tries to run for governor of new mexico too.

79 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:40:13am

JCCentCom is his Twitter account. Interesting. Methink I detect another right wing chickenhawk.

80 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:40:19am
81 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:40:27am

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

The only things I care about in this goddamn life are me and my drums and you.

82 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:40:27am

re: #57 McSpiff

I’m not allowed to talk during Transformer or Iron Man flicks anymore. Apparently they aren’t documentaries and I should just be entertained.

Pfft.

“Thats ridiculous! No power source could possibly power a suit like that. And there isn’t any such thing as repulsor technology. And even if you could make a suit which is impervious to a tank’s main gun, which you can’t, you would be turned to jelly inside the suit from the inertial forces. That’s ridiculous, AI technology is AT LEAST 30 years away from that level of functionality…”

“Honey. Shut up and watch the movie.”

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:40:59am

re: #68 ggt

Like House doing the spinal tap or drilling into someone’s skull in the hospital bed in the hospital room?

My favorite House moment has got to be the one where he gets a body out of the morgue and shoots it so he can see what happens when you put someone with a bullet in their head into the MRI machine—and then ruins the MRI machine.

“He’s dead. I shot him.”

84 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:41:27am

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

The Breakfast Club.

…is still relevant to my interests, especially in grad school.

Pretty In Pink.

…had one of my favorite movie soundtracks of all time. I still shuffle through it from time to time.

85 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:41:34am

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

The Breakfast Club. Pretty In Pink. Sixteen Candles. Some Kind of Wonderful.

Oh, dear God.

Proud to say I’ve seen none of them.

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:41:44am

re: #71 Jeff In Ohio

Dharma’s husband…please.

I love Criminal Minds. I could watch Derek Morgan tackle people for hours.

87 BigPapa  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:41:57am

Awaiting Dim Hoft’s commentary on this…..

88 McSpiff  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:42:01am

New iPads March 2nd :D

89 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:42:24am

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

My reactions to Top Gun?

“That isn’t a Mig. It’s an F5 Tiger painted black with a Russian star. And fighters are designated with odd numbers. That’s a gun shot! If you’re firing a heat seeker why does the exterior shot show a Sparrow dropping away? How can you fire the same missile twice?”

But I do that with most war movies. I like Band of Brothers because I wasn’t constantly going, “Wrong!” I wish I knew where they got Churchill tanks from though.

I have to be careful of that. I love to nitpick technical accuracy. A MiG-28? Huh? I learn to just smile inwardly and go along.

Most of the tanks in BoB were heavily modified (vismoded, as we called it when dealing with American equipment made to like like Russian equipment) from other existing modern vehicles. There are a few collectors in GB trying to salvage and restore other, hard to find tanks like the A34 Comet.

90 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:43:29am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

Can you imagine the wingnutosphere if a deputy AG had proposed firing on the Tea Partiers?

Yeehaw!!

They would be gathering ammo and rifles as we speak to head for the battle, faces pale and penises throbbing.

91 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:43:36am

re: #85 ggt

Proud to say I’ve seen none of them.

My brother has watched Breakfast Club several times he has one comment he repeats every time regardless of who he is watching it with

“And this is what dancing was like in the 80’s….)

92 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:43:52am

re: #73 ralphieboy

Those were Cromwell tanks, btw, rebuilt from British APC’s according to the “Making Of” documentary.

But yes, taking an old surplus US tank. slapping a German cross on it and calling it a Tiger was to me the equivalent of taking a Dodge Dart, mounting a Mercedes star on the hood and calling it an SLK roadster

Oop. Sorry. British WWII tamks are not my forte.

And I see you remember Battle of The Bilge too. I still hum ‘Panzerlied’ when I walk.

93 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:43:56am

re: #89 celticdragon

I have to be careful of that. I love to nitpick technical accuracy. A MiG-28? Huh? I learn to just smile inwardly and go along.

Most of the tanks in BoB were heavily modified (vismoded, as we called it when dealing with American equipment made to like like Russian equipment) from other existing modern vehicles. There are a few collectors in GB trying to salvage and restore other, hard to find tanks like the A34 Comet.

And then we have guys taking modern tanks and turning them into Sci-fi tanks…

94 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:44:25am

re: #87 BigPapa

Awaiting Dim Hoft’s commentary on this…

Here. I’ll help:

“HURR DURR DERP! DERPA DERPA! HURR DERP!”

95 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:45:04am

re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And then we have guys taking modern tanks and turning them into Sci-fi tanks…


[Video]

OUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAL BOXES! THE COWARDS!

96 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:46:04am

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

I love Criminal Minds. I could watch Derek Morgan tackle people for hours.

Well, they had Mandy Potamkin and that was good (Dead Like Me is classic). But a deranged serial killer every week? Ugh…

97 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:46:06am

re: #95 jamesfirecat

OUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAL BOXES! THE COWARDS!

Next, we need a drop pod.

98 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:46:31am

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

The Breakfast Club. Pretty In Pink. Sixteen Candles. Some Kind of Wonderful.

Oh, dear God.

In all honesty, I would take all of them over Justin Bieber’s movie.

99 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:47:08am

re: #82 Fozzie Bear

“Thats ridiculous! No power source could possibly power a suit like that. And there isn’t any such thing as repulsor technology. And even if you could make a suit which is impervious to a tank’s main gun, which you can’t, you would be turned to jelly inside the suit from the inertial forces. That’s ridiculous, AI technology is AT LEAST 30 years away from that level of functionality…”

“Honey. Shut up and watch the movie.”

Yeah…taking a hit from the main gun of a T-72 is pretty high on the list of bad things that will really, really kill you horribly…

Since when can T-72’s engage targets in the air?? The French AMX30 had a coax 20mm with the main gun that could elevate high enough to shoot at helicopters…but shooting at something in the air with a 125mm main gun? WTF?

100 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:47:30am

Attorney Number: 24133 49
Attorney Name: MR JEFFREY ROBERT COX
Firm Name: OFFICE OF THE INDIANA ATTORNEY GENERAL
Address 1: IGCS, 5TH FLOOR…

101 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:47:30am

re: #91 jamesfirecat

My brother has watched Breakfast Club several times he has one comment he repeats every time regardless of who he is watching it with

“And this is what dancing was like in the 80’s…)

Don’t think so. I saw no blood or bruising as a consequence of dancing in The Breakfast Club.

102 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:47:59am

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

That’s like going to any courtroom drama with my dad. “That would never happen”, “he/she would get disbarred or a contempt charge”. It can be maddening.

103 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:48:01am

I’m trying desperately not to laugh during my Info Systems class. I should also be compiling three slides about HTML5 for a group project but I can’t bring myself to get motivated.

104 BigPapa  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:48:14am

I’m going to make a prediction: Sunday we will hear this:

What global warming? Srlsly? ‘

105 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:48:20am

re: #75 Obdicut

Yes. Or just all the blood tests, fecal tests, CAT scans, etc. And the diseases normally progress at totally unrealistic rates, too.

Also, they’re just all too goddamn gorgeous.

And, going into the patient’s home to gather evidence like they’re detectives at a crime scene.

106 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:48:42am

re: #102 leftynyc

That’s like going to any courtroom drama with my dad. “That would never happen”, “he/she would get disbarred or a contempt charge”. It can be maddening.

OBJECTION!

107 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:49:39am

re: #106 jamesfirecat

OBJECTION!

*deadpan* Overruled.

108 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:49:43am

re: #76 Romantic Heretic

On topic. These are people who agree with Goldwater’s dictum, “Extremism in defence of liberty is no vice.” So they don’t see that killing people for exercising their rights is a bad thing.

Plus it gets their rocks off to say such a thing. It shows what ‘men’ they are, how ‘tough’ they are.

Pretty sad when you think about it.


Why is it the only question I want to ask these men is “just how small is your dick?”.

109 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:50:21am

I am under strict instructions not to speak during any viewing of Starship Troopers.

110 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:50:24am

re: #106 jamesfirecat

OBJECTION!

You foolish fool with your foolish tomfoolery!

/Franziska

111 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:50:49am

re: #108 leftynyc

Why is it the only question I want to ask these men is “just how small is your dick?”.

Don’t be harping on somebody’s 5 inches of white fury, now…

112 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:51:23am

re: #62 Jeff In Ohio

That was my first “R” movie, I sneaked seeing over a friend’s house. Probably on BetaMax.

113 McSpiff  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:51:34am

re: #99 celticdragon

Yeah…taking a hit from the main gun of a T-72 is pretty high on the list of bad things that will really, really kill you horribly…

Since when can T-72’s engage targets in the air?? The French AMX30 had a coax 20mm with the main gun that could elevate high enough to shoot at helicopters…but shooting at something in the air with a 125mm main gun? WTF?

I like it here.

114 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:51:34am

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am under strict instructions not to speak during any viewing of Starship Troopers.

Bugs. Mr Rico!! Zillions of ‘em! Ima burnin’ them down!

115 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:52:04am

re: #99 celticdragon

Yeah…taking a hit from the main gun of a T-72 is pretty high on the list of bad things that will really, really kill you horribly…

Since when can T-72’s engage targets in the air?? The French AMX30 had a coax 20mm with the main gun that could elevate high enough to shoot at helicopters…but shooting at something in the air with a 125mm main gun? WTF?

Yeah. And something that’s the size of a human, moving at high speeds…

There’s so much wrong with the iron man movies. I can think of a dozen reasons why a suit that performs like that could literally never be built, at any level of technology, because it violates the laws of physics.

116 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:52:29am
117 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:52:44am

The first R rated movie I can remember attending was Excalibur, I was 7 or 8 at the time.

118 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:53:45am

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am under strict instructions not to speak during any viewing of Starship Troopers.

But, But, But IT’S A double-plus LOUSY MOVIE!

Absolutely horrific. Why even watch it?

119 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:54:37am

re: #118 ggt

But, But, But IT’S A double-plus LOUSY MOVIE!

Absolutely horrific. Why even watch it?

Just heard from my son: Do not watch “Unknown”

It is Teh Suck.

120 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:54:38am

re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I remember when my little brother was 8 years old, he came home and told my mom he’d watched Predator over a friend’s house. You know how Bill Cosby says something about a “fit?” I witnessed one that day.

121 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:54:44am

re: #114 celticdragon

Bugs. Mr Rico!! Zillions of ‘em! Ima burnin’ them down!

Several thousands years of military theory, advanced weaponry and star travel and somehow, they’ve decided that running in a tightly packed mob straight into the enemy assault is the best course of action.

122 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:54:51am

re: #118 ggt

But, But, But IT’S A double-plus LOUSY MOVIE!

Absolutely horrific. Why even watch it?

The eye candy special effects are cool, and the dialogue is a hoot.

123 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:04am

re: #118 ggt

But, But, But IT’S A double-plus LOUSY MOVIE!

Absolutely horrific. Why even watch it?

Severly underrated. What a great movie.

124 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:08am

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am under strict instructions not to speak during any viewing of Starship Troopers.

Is there anything you need to say besides “This sucks”?

125 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:17am

re: #118 ggt

But, But, But IT’S A double-plus LOUSY MOVIE!

Absolutely horrific. Why even watch it?

Dina Meyer’s boobs

126 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:20am

re: #99 celticdragon

Yeah…taking a hit from the main gun of a T-72 is pretty high on the list of bad things that will really, really kill you horribly…

Since when can T-72’s engage targets in the air?? The French AMX30 had a coax 20mm with the main gun that could elevate high enough to shoot at helicopters…but shooting at something in the air with a 125mm main gun? WTF?

Well, I remember from back in the M1A1 training days, a helicopter was one of the main gun targets for the simulator.

127 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:39am

re: #112 abbyadams

That was my first “R” movie, I sneaked seeing over a friend’s house. Probably on BetaMax.

That was R? Huh, my dad took me to see the Valachi Papers when I was 13. I think that qualified as ‘the talk.’

128 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:44am

He’s all over the place…

So many Reasons To Impeach Bush

Now we have another.

Bush really is approaching Jimmy Carter levels of incompetence where he can do nothing right — illegal alien amnesty, Dubai Ports, bothced the Iraq war. This may be the worst yet. Crocs? My Gawd, I know I’m in my own little world far away from everyone else fashionwise, but Crocs? You say, “Croc,” I say, “Fashion Terrorism.” (Kinda like, you say, “spinners,” I say “probable cause.”)

Bush already insists on undermining our culture by allowing in 12 million illegal aliens who don’t speak English and think all of America and half of Canada rightfully belong to the wasteland that is Mexico. Now he undermines it further by wearing Crocs.

Do you think maybe this suggests the Islamofascists have a point? I mean, is a society that wears Crocs really worth defending? Wouldn’t society be better off if Paris Hilton was forced to wear a burqa?

I’m just sayin’ …

I smell booze.

129 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:48am

re: #118 ggt

Sometimes with the right crowd and right beverages, bad movies are better than movies that have budgets. Or a decent script. Or actors.

130 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:55:59am

re: #123 Winny Spencer

Severly underrated. What a great movie.

Book is MUCH, MUCH better!

131 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:56:06am

re: #120 abbyadams

I remember when my little brother was 8 years old, he came home and told my mom he’d watched Predator over a friend’s house. You know how Bill Cosby says something about a “fit?” I witnessed one that day.

My Dad took me.

132 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:56:21am

re: #118 ggt

Dina Meyer….

133 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:56:25am

re: #128 Gus 802

He’s all over the place…

I smell booze.

Sorry, forgot to brush my teeth.

/

134 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:56:34am

re: #119 Alouette

Just heard from my son: Do not watch “Unknown”

It is Teh Suck.

The Crazies was a hell of a lot better than I expected, if sci fi conspiracy/horror is your thing.

135 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:56:47am

re: #116 Gus 802

He’s a vicious racist, too.

I have suggested elsewhere that the vast majority of anti-black racism today is not latent or irrational but rational and reactive as a result of the disparate crime rate among blacks and the general rejection by the black community in most inner cities of efforts to bring that crime rate under control.

136 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:06am

re: #102 leftynyc

That’s like going to any courtroom drama with my dad. “That would never happen”, “he/she would get disbarred or a contempt charge”. It can be maddening.

My favorite courtroom moment on TV EVER: In “Canterbury’s Law”, Canterbury traps a guy into incriminating himself on the stand, and he punches her. In most TV dramas, she would just snap her head to one side, and then glare back at him defiantly. In “CL”, she falls off her dressed-for-court heels, flat on her ass. Two of her young assistant lawyers rush to get her, and she manages to say, through a puffy lip, “The defense rests”.

137 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:13am

re: #125 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dina Meyer’s boobs

Male pig

;)

138 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:15am

re: #76 Romantic Heretic

On topic. These are people who agree with Goldwater’s dictum, “Extremism in defence of liberty is no vice.” So they don’t see that killing people for exercising their rights is a bad thing.

Plus it gets their rocks off to say such a thing. It shows what ‘men’ they are, how ‘tough’ they are.

Pretty sad when you think about it.

Shooting into a crowd of peaceful protesters would not be a defense of liberty, especially not as Goldwater would see it.
He said this in the context of the 1964 primary campaign, when he himself was called an extremist. Today, somebody with Goldwater’s positions (pro-science, gay rights, and reproductive rights) could not even be a Republican, let alone a leader of the conservative wing. He could probably qualify as a Blue-Dog Democrat though. His liberal Republican opponents, Nelson Rockefeller and William Scranton, would rate about where Dennis Kucinich is today.

139 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:27am

re: #127 Jeff In Ohio

Aye, there was no PG-13 way back when.

(can’t believe I’m admitting I’m older than a movie rating.)

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:30am

re: #105 Alouette

And, going into the patient’s home to gather evidence like they’re detectives at a crime scene.

Remember the one where they dug up a body in the middle of the night, without a court order?

141 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:35am

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am under strict instructions not to speak during any viewing of Starship Troopers.

Then don’t watch Battlefield Earth, lest you want your head to explode.

142 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:40am

re: #128 Gus 802

He’s all over the place…

I smell booze.

Crocs are definitely a reason to impeach! Absolute proof of the breakdown of all we hold dear. Evil Plastic!

///////!

143 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:55am

re: #129 abbyadams

Sometimes with the right crowd and right beverages, bad movies are better than movies that have budgets. Or a decent script. Or actors.

This is mutiny, this is treason, which I warn you I must report!

144 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:57:59am

re: #130 ggt

Book is MUCH, MUCH better!

Actually, they were kicking around the script for a generic Sci fi movie, but wanted a hook for merchandising. The studio had the rights, to they did a quick rewrite to a script they had lying around, changed a few character names, then green lit production.

145 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:58:03am

re: #129 abbyadams

Sometimes with the right crowd and right beverages, bad movies are better than movies that have budgets. Or a decent script. Or actors.


I watched ST in Glasgow on New Year’s Eve with a party of revellers. It was enjoyable from that point of view, and once I decided to just stop thinking about the book and try to enjoy it for its own right.

Some of the black humor was good.

But otherwise it sucked.

146 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:58:21am

re: #128 Gus 802

Obviously a man who sits on his ass all day and when he stands, never gets his shoes dirty. I bet he wears those shoe slickers.

COCK PUNCH!

147 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:58:32am

re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Several thousands years of military theory, advanced weaponry and star travel and somehow, they’ve decided that running in a tightly packed mob straight into the enemy assault is the best course of action.

And apparently they lack the ability to fire nukes from orbit… something we could easily do today. (And that people can fire shoulder-mounted nukes at targets directly in line of sight and apparently not have to worry about being vaporized instantly. Funny, I didn’t realize that the light flash from a nuke exploding from a couple hundred yards away could do anything other than reduce you to vapor.)

148 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:58:41am

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Remember the one where they dug up a body in the middle of the night, without a court order?

They buried him upside down!

149 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:59:12am

re: #141 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Then don’t watch Battlefield Earth, lest you want your head to explode.

Starship Troopers is more offensive because it took a great book and turned it into a bad movie…

Battlefield Earth on the other hand….

150 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:59:15am

re: #134 celticdragon

The Crazies was a hell of a lot better than I expected, if sci fi conspiracy/horror is your thing.

Very dissapointed with that one. The ending was just stupid.

Slither was a great B movie though.

151 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 11:59:57am

re: #130 ggt

Book is MUCH, MUCH better!

I’ve read it.
I know.
I concur.

152 iossarian  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:00:47pm

re: #146 Jeff In Ohio

I don’t care if this comes across as creepy: man you’re on fire today. I am seriously thinking of starting a blog entitled:

heyorangejohnwherearethefuckingjobs.blogspot.com

153 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:00:50pm

re: #149 jamesfirecat

Starship Troopers is more offensive because it took a great book and turned it into a bad movie…

Battlefield Earth on the other hand…

Mitt Romney’s favorite novel!

154 122 Year Old Obama  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:00:51pm

This is a good take on the Battlefield Earth film.

155 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:00:54pm

oh man, feels like the roller coaster of this fucked up country is about to hit that big downhill woosh

156 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:01:24pm

Word to the wise: Avoid reading a book before seeing the movie. Because no matter how good the movie is, you will still sit through the film, going “Damnit, they screwed that up!”

157 Jack Burton  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:01:29pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Dina Meyer

THIS.

The only reason to watch that movie.

158 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:01:40pm

re: #126 kirkspencer

Well, I remember from back in the M1A1 training days, a helicopter was one of the main gun targets for the simulator.

If they are nice enough to unmask and sit still for you, I suppose…and sit still low enough to be within your main gun elevation envelope.

Not likely. Possible once in awhile…but not likely. Certainly nothing actually moving.

159 abbyadams  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:02:00pm

re: #130 ggt

They almost always are…

One exception, IMHO: The Cider House Rules.

Movie: Great, succinct story. Book: Went on way too long, IMHO, and that great succinct story was lost.

160 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:02:37pm
Tuesday, November 28, 2006
I can’t believe

George Bush wants to talk to Iran and Syria about bringing down the violence in Iraq. Bill Clinton was a fool to describe Chine as a “strategic partner” in the 1990s, and Bush’s idea here is no better. This idea is so bad in fact that I would have expected it from John Kerry. Remind me why I voted for W again?

Posted by ProCynic at 10:44 PM
Comments

161 Bulworth  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:02:50pm

What right-wing calls to violence? (snark)

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:03:04pm

re: #142 ggt

Crocs are definitely a reason to impeach! Absolute proof of the breakdown of all we hold dear. Evil Plastic!

///!

Back when the Gaza pullout was happening, a woman was refused entry into the Knesset building because she was wearing orange Crocs. It turned out they were a tribute to Mario Batalli, rather than an FU to Ariel Sharon, but Israeli security is careful about such things.

Israelis LOVE Crocs.

So do the parents in my neighborhood. At my local Y, you can tell when Toddler Gym is in session, because a rainbow of teeny Crocs are lined up at the door of the gym.

163 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:03:25pm

re: #160 Gus 802

This guy makes G. Gordon Liddy look restrained and rational.

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:04:01pm

re: #34 Lidane

I never swooned over Tom Cruise. When it came to Top Gun, I was all about Val Kilmer.

the only thing that made me swoon about Top Gun was that Steve Stevens Top Gun theme

Val Kilmer = sexy in Tombstone, Top Gun, ehhhh

165 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:04:19pm

re: #149 jamesfirecat

Starship Troopers is more offensive because it took a great book and turned it into a bad movie…

Battlefield Earth on the other hand…

I still fail to see how 10’ tall powered armor launched from orbit, with each man covering a 2 mile section of a battle line, can be reinterpreted as tweens in BMX armor in a mob firing wildly.

166 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:05:03pm

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

THIS.

The only reason to watch that movie.

So much more fetching than Denise Richards.

167 McSpiff  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:05:08pm

re: #147 Fozzie Bear

Give you super powers.

168 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:05:19pm

re: #158 celticdragon

If they are nice enough to unmask and sit still for you, I suppose…and sit still low enough to be within your main gun elevation envelope.

Not likely. Possible once in awhile…but not likely. Certainly nothing actually moving.

I’m saying that as a former helicopter crewchief and door gunner.

We were not particularly worried about being shot at by Russian main battle tanks. ZSU-30 Shilkas were another matter entirely.

Nasty, nasty, nasty.

169 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:05:34pm

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

THIS.

The only reason to watch that movie.

Well, Denise Richards, but she stayed dressed.

170 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:05:34pm

gotta go

Have a great afternoon!

171 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:06:19pm

re: #165 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Would you like to know more? /

172 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:07:00pm

re: #166 Winny Spencer

So much more fetching than Denise Richards.

I think the only way to fairly judge the two would be a strip pillow fight.

173 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:07:36pm

re: #165 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I still fail to see how 10’ tall powered armor launched from orbit, with each man covering a 2 mile section of a battle line, can be reinterpreted as tweens in BMX armor in a mob firing wildly.

That was my main disappointment: I would love to see a decent film take on the powered armor suits described in the novel.

174 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:07:42pm

Another one…

And what about practicalities? I have suggested elsewhere that the vast majority of anti-black racism today is not latent or irrational but rational and reactive as a result of the disparate crime rate among blacks and the general rejection by the black community in most inner cities of efforts to bring that crime rate under control. Far, far too many times, black thugs commit horrific crimes and the inner city black community often rallies around them and rips the victims, particularly if those victims are white. These days, when police shoot a black thug in commission of a crime, it is now expected to have protests or even riots in support of the criminal.

How do you think those outside the black community view this state of affairs? Non-blacks seeing a young, black male on a street wearing baggy pants that reveal his buttcrack, massive gold chains, gold teeth and a ballcap at an odd angle already fear such individuals — and are called “racists” for doing so by the black community and white liberals. Now, you add on top of that pretty mental image the thought that such an individual has been taught to “hate whitey” and views himself at war with your race. What do you think the reaction will be?

About the only thing good that has come out of this affair is that the subject of black racism, so often taboo, is now open for discussion, because Wright has so visibly demonstrated it, and has provided evidence that it is far, far more prevalent than white racism.

Aside from that — and that it has poisoned the presidential candidacy of a charismatic figure who would make an even worse president than Jimmy Carter, which I didn’t even know was possible — the Wright affair has been a disaster.

Posted by ProCynic at 6:44 PM

Labels: crime, Obama, political correctness, politics, race, racism

Not sure about this being racist but it sure is weird.

175 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:07:59pm

re: #171 lawhawk

Would you like to know more? /

Explain to me Doogie Houser, psychic space nazi.

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:08:14pm

re: #172 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think the only way to fairly judge the two would be a strip pillow fight.

Okay, straight dorks, here you go: Image: slave-leia-pillow-fight-cubby-demotivational-poster-1225773878.jpg (not exactly work safe, but not really anything to worry about)

don’t say the internet never did nothin fer ya

177 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:08:18pm

re: #172 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think the only way to fairly judge the two would be a strip pillow fight.

Oh my Gawd…

The male fantasies are taking over the thread…

178 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:08:32pm

re: #172 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think the only way to fairly judge the two would be a strip pillow fight.

Yes, hence why I arranged one back in the day.

179 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:08:33pm

re: #174 Gus 802

Saying the vast majority of anti-black racism is warranted is, indeed, racist, I’d say.

180 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:08:37pm

re: #128 Gus 802

Good lord. This guy is as bad as the very worst right wing bloggers.

181 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:08:59pm

re: #179 Obdicut

Saying the vast majority of anti-black racism is warranted is, indeed, racist, I’d say.

OK I’m glancing through these.

182 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:09:04pm

re: #173 ralphieboy

That was my main disappointment: I would love to see a decent film take on the powered armor suits described in the novel.

And now I just want to watch this again

183 darthstar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:09:20pm

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming… That was my first thought when I heard about this this morning. What an asshole.

184 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:09:25pm

What.
The.
Fuck.
Is this America?

185 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:09:43pm

re: #177 celticdragon

Oh my Gawd…

The male fantasies are taking over the thread…

We put up with the Top Gun stuff.

186 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:09:49pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Explain to me Doogie Houser, psychic space nazi.

See, the problem is it doesn’t pay it off the way a movie like They Live or Hell Comes To Frogtown does, both starring one Rowdy Roddy Piper, Esquire


If I hear about psychic space nazis, there better be some serious grindhouse entertainment in that reel

187 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:10:01pm

re: #173 ralphieboy

That was my main disappointment: I would love to see a decent film take on the powered armor suits described in the novel.

For most of my childhood, my most cherished dream was to one day own a small Mech. I didn’t want an Atlas or anything. Just a Locust.

Sadly, my parents weren’t quite able to come through for me on that one.

188 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:10:08pm

re: #180 Charles

Good lord. This guy is as bad as the very worst right wing bloggers.

Another psycho “deputy attorney general”. I’m see a pattern here.

189 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:10:09pm

re: #184 Varek Raith

What.
The.
Fuck.
Is this America?

Yep. With all of our sick cultural pathologies coming out in the open.

190 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:10:34pm

re: #185 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We put up with the Top Gun stuff.

Okay, okay…

You got me there.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:10:48pm

I have to confess, I did not like Starship Troopers, the book.

My dad got me to read it when I was a teen—he loves Heinlein. It’s certainly a better adventure story and better put together than some of his later rambling, but I never liked it.

192 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:10:58pm

re: #174 Gus 802

is this all that (fromer) deputy AG Jeff Cox dude?

193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:11:27pm

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

For most of my childhood, my most cherished dream was to one day own a small Mech. I didn’t want an Atlas or anything. Just a Locust.

Sadly, my parents weren’t quite able to come through for me on that one.

I never got into the mech thing, I liked Robotech/Macross, but I was really more into talking cars *_*

194 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:11:59pm

re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to confess, I did not like Starship Troopers, the book.

My dad got me to read it when I was a teen—he loves Heinlein. It’s certainly a better adventure story and better put together than some of his later rambling, but I never liked it.

Joe Haldeman’s “Forever War” is a better story.

195 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:12:00pm

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

For most of my childhood, my most cherished dream was to one day own a small Mech. I didn’t want an Atlas or anything. Just a Locust.

Sadly, my parents weren’t quite able to come through for me on that one.

I want a mad cat.

196 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:12:12pm

re: #192 WindUpBird

is this all that (fromer) deputy AG Jeff Cox dude?

Former? Yeah, this is the cached blog he linked at this Twitter account.

twitter.com

197 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:12:40pm

re: #174 Gus 802

Another one…

Not sure about this being racist but it sure is weird.

It’s racist as hell. He’s actually saying that anti-black racism is justified!

198 Stanley Sea  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:12:55pm

Image: jeff-cox-new-2011-cropped-proto-custom_2.jpg


Dude is a Charger fan. Gee thanks asshole.

199 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:13:22pm

re: #130 ggt

Book is MUCH, MUCH better!

Read this book:
en.wikipedia.org

The Best.

200 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:13:30pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Former? Yeah, this is the cached blog he linked at this Twitter account.

[Link: twitter.com…]

Bio:”all-around weirdo”

201 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:13:35pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

I never got into the mech thing, I liked Robotech/Macross, but I was really more into talking cars *_*

Micheal? Micheal? Don’t you think I should take over driving? You seem to have been drinking with Mel Gibson again. You are handling me in an unsafe manner. Micheal?

202 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:14:00pm
ProCynic

* Gender: Male
* Industry: Law
* Occupation: Lawyer
* Location: Indianapolis : IN

About Me

I’m a lawyer with a bachelor’s degree in National Security Policy Studies from The Ohio State University. I live in Indianapolis, where I follow foreign affairs, defense policy, history, archaeology, sports and dance. My dream in life is to rule the world, watch the Cleveland Browns win the Super Bowl, have a San Diego Chargers jacket with big lightning bolts on the shoulders and take Emmanuelle Vaugier out to dinner at a 5-star restaurant.
Interests

* history
* politics
* defense
* archaeology
* dance
* running
* movies
* Ohio State
* Cleveland Browns
* San Diego Chargers
* Pittsburgh Steelers
* Pittsburgh Penguins
* Cleveland Indians
* Pittsburgh Pirates
* Cleveland Cavaliers
* Los Angeles Lakers

Favorite Movies

* Star Wars
* Naked Gun
* Lord of the Rings
* Alien
* Major League
* Jurassic Park

Favorite Music

* Bond
* Kylie Minogue
* Sweet Sensation
* Cover Girls
* Expose
* Paula Abdul

Favorite Books

* Shattered Sword
* The End of the Bronze Age

203 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:14:02pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

I never got into the mech thing, I liked Robotech/Macross, but I was really more into talking cars *_*

Image: Wing_Zero_02.jpg
>
Your talking car.
:P

204 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:14:26pm

re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to confess, I did not like Starship Troopers, the book.

My dad got me to read it when I was a teen—he loves Heinlein. It’s certainly a better adventure story and better put together than some of his later rambling, but I never liked it.

I thought it was sorta good, but it was eclipsed by all the way more fun stuff I was reading, like spacy Charles Delint novels about the wee fairy folk, I think I was really into Hunter Thompson at the time as wee

I later discovered that Heinlein was just not up to my standards of hallucinogenic WTFness, so I switched to Michael Moorcock

205 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:15:07pm

re: #201 celticdragon

Micheal? Micheal? Don’t you think I should take over driving? You seem to have been drinking with Mel Gibson again. You are handling me in an unsafe manner. Micheal?

I JUST WOKE UP!

206 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:15:14pm

re: #202 Gus 802

The Lakers? What a bandwagon jumper.

207 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:15:30pm
The real cause of global warming

It’s the SUN, dammit! Not cars, not power plants, not cows. The SUN!!!

Posted by ProCynic at 9:18 PM

Labels: envirotards, global warming

208 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:15:44pm

re: #201 celticdragon

Seriously, I have a full energy drink, I haven’t even taken a swig yet, I was still in bed looking for my glasses a few minutes ago :D

209 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:15:46pm

re: #207 Gus 802

Lol.

210 Stanley Sea  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:15:59pm

HE WAS FIRED!!!!

YAY

oliverwillis.com

211 Stanley Sea  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:16:35pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea


wlfi.com

212 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:16:52pm

re: #203 Varek Raith

Image: Wing_Zero_02.jpg
>
Your talking car.
:P

already got two, thanks :D

213 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:17:05pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

Oh, wow. That was impressively prompt.

214 Blizard  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:17:09pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

Yay! That was quick. Good!

215 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:17:32pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

Good news.

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:17:58pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

And there we go.

There is a limit of stupid past which one cannot go and remain in the public employ, and this guy has reached and exceeded that limit.

Now, all that remains to be seen is who is gonna be dumb enough to champion him. Breitbart, I’m looking at you.

217 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:18:12pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It was his brown-suit up days that preceded his GNB banking suit days?

218 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:18:44pm

re: #199 Ericus58

Read this book:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The Best.

Same characters names as the author’s other book, “Vampires”

219 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:19:22pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

He can always find work in Libya…

220 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:19:24pm

re: #213 Simply Sarah

Oh, wow. That was impressively prompt.

Turns out it’s not cool to advocate mass murder

221 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:20:03pm

re: #220 WindUpBird

Turns out it’s not cool to advocate mass murder

Seriously, can you imagine being this guy’s boss, and having this land on your desk?

222 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:20:25pm

What I’m wondering about now is if the state bar will reprimand him in some way. I’d have to think that they’d see this as activity unbecoming of a member.

223 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:02pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

You ARE the weakest link. Goodbye.

224 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:03pm

Next!

225 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:18pm
226 darthstar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:24pm

Too bad they have to use such gentle language “no longer employed by the agency”…at times like this, it’s perfectly acceptable to release an official statement saying, “We fired the fucker.”

227 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:27pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

Oliver Willis isn’t going to like seeing that referral - he hates me with a passion.

228 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:31pm

re: #221 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously, can you imagine being this guy’s boss, and having this land on your desk?

I would imagine his boss calls Cox in, then after Cox sits down, his boss gets up, closes the door, calmly sits back down, stares at him for about five seconds in silence, and THEN flips all the papers on his desk into the air and starts screaming

229 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:21:33pm

re: #224 Gus 802

Next!

Toldja it was a firing tweet!

230 darthstar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:15pm

re: #229 wrenchwench

Toldja it was a firing tweet!

I’m twitterpated by this news.

231 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:24pm

re: #124 ralphieboy

Is there anything you need to say besides “This sucks”?

Nope. That pretty much sums it up.

232 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:25pm

re: #227 Charles

Oliver Willis isn’t going to like seeing that referral - he hates me with a passion.

He’ll cope.

233 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:30pm

re: #227 Charles

He should probably check his camera settings, that’s a terrible photo on his blog

234 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:44pm

Indy Channel 6 News reports…

‘Live Ammunition’ Tweet Sinks Deputy AG
Political Website Calls Comments Into Question

INDIANAPOLIS — A deputy in the Indiana Attorney General’s Office is no longer employed by the office following online comments he made concerning protesters at the Wisconsin Legislature.

235 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:47pm

re: #230 darthstar

I’m twitterpated by this news.

*thumpthumpthump*

236 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:22:55pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]


hmmm. While I am delighted he’s paying the price I’m bothered at how fast this went.

See, I have this opinion that the process should stand, and that by ensuring even the shtheads get their day in court we ensure everyone gets their day if needed.

237 darthstar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:23:36pm

re: #235 WindUpBird

*thumpthumpthump*

Upding for catching the Thumper reference. I loved Bambi…went so well with a good Bordeaux.

238 Winny Spencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:23:44pm
239 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:24:12pm

re: #220 WindUpBird

Turns out it’s not cool to advocate mass murder

And now you know, and knowing is half the battle!

240 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:24:21pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

Fuck you Rush.

241 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:24:40pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

Well, he finds the concept of eating well foreign and threatening, so…

242 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:24:53pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

So sayeth Jabba the Hutt. *rolls eyes*

243 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:01pm

re: #234 Gus 802

Indy Channel 6 News reports…

‘Live Ammunition’ Tweet Sinks Deputy AG
Political Website Calls Comments Into Question

INDIANAPOLIS — A deputy in the Indiana Attorney General’s Office is no longer employed by the office following online comments he made concerning protesters at the Wisconsin Legislature.

Sometimes I feel weird going YEAH THAT GUY LOST HIS JOB LOL WHOO HOO


This guy just sounds like an evil pile of shit who is poison to the very notion of the justice system, I hope he’s pushing paper for some boring divorce attorney for the next twenty years

So in short: YEAH THAT GUY LOST HIS JOB LOL WHOO HOO

244 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:16pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

Does he never know when to shut the hell up? His logic is basically that because the first lady isn’t super skinny that she shouldn’t advocate healthy eating.

245 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:23pm

re: #236 kirkspencer

hmmm. While I am delighted he’s paying the price I’m bothered at how fast this went.

See, I have this opinion that the process should stand, and that by ensuring even the shtheads get their day in court we ensure everyone gets their day if needed.

If he feels he was fired injustly/without cause he can still sue can’t he?

246 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:44pm

re: #199 Ericus58

Read this book:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The Best.

“Armor is a military science fiction novel by John Steakley. It has some superficial similarities with Robert A. Heinlein’s Starship Troopers (such as the military use of exoskeletons and insect-like alien enemies) but concentrates more on the psychological effects of violence on human beings rather than on the political aspects of the military, which was the focus of Heinlein’s novel”

247 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:46pm

That was quick for his dismissal, which means that the inevitable questions of whether the state followed procedure in firing him will be asked in 3…2…1…

I’d say that the grounds were there for his firing as those comments were clearly wrong, inappropriate, and conduct unbecoming an officer of the court.

248 darthstar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:48pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

Rush can’t make headlines with basic bigotry, he’s got to go full racist to get attention any more.

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:52pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

Rush, OTOH, apparently wants everyone to eat bacon double cheeseburgers, and is obviously following his own advice.

//What IS it with this man? The FLOTUS looks fine. She’s a healthy weight, she has good muscle tone—I should look half as good, and I’m a decade younger. WTF?

250 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:25:53pm

re: #236 kirkspencer

hmmm. While I am delighted he’s paying the price I’m bothered at how fast this went.

See, I have this opinion that the process should stand, and that by ensuring even the shtheads get their day in court we ensure everyone gets their day if needed.

When you get fired? I got friends who been fired nine, ten times! They didn’t go to court ;-)

251 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:26:06pm

re: #236 kirkspencer

hmmm. While I am delighted he’s paying the price I’m bothered at how fast this went.

See, I have this opinion that the process should stand, and that by ensuring even the shtheads get their day in court we ensure everyone gets their day if needed.

I would think that they investigated whether he sent the tweet, and upon confirming that he did so, fired him for inappropriate behavior.

What more would you expect?

252 Stanley Sea  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:26:19pm

re: #227 Charles

Oliver Willis isn’t going to like seeing that referral - he hates me with a passion.

(sorry) Oh well.

253 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:26:23pm

re: #243 WindUpBird

Sometimes I feel weird going YEAH THAT GUY LOST HIS JOB LOL WHOO HOO

This guy just sounds like an evil pile of shit who is poison to the very notion of the justice system, I hope he’s pushing paper for some boring divorce attorney for the next twenty years

So in short: YEAH THAT GUY LOST HIS JOB LOL WHOO HOO

He probably already chasing an ambulance.

/

254 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:26:48pm

re: #241 Simply Sarah

Well, he finds the concept of eating well foreign and threatening, so…

Wow! That is an exceptionally ignorant comment, even from him.

255 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:27:10pm

Incidentally, a stalker* has pointed out that I once advocated equipping mounted police with sabers and fur hats so they could ride down anarchist rioters Cossack-style. This is alleged to be hypocrisy on my part in view of my criticism of former DAG Cox.

Three points:
-I actually said this more than once.
-The Madison protesters are not rioting and they are not anarchists.
-The saber/fur hat thing is much less likely to happen after my suggestion than some crazed wingnut deciding to shoot at the protesters on the basis of an endorsement from a state’s attorney.
I would venture to guess that the latter possibility is at least as much a concern to Capitol security as anything the protesters are doing.

*not to be otherwise identified.

256 darthstar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:27:17pm

re: #247 lawhawk

That was quick for his dismissal, which means that the inevitable questions of whether the state followed procedure in firing him will be asked in 3…2…1…

I’d say that the grounds were there for his firing as those comments were clearly wrong, inappropriate, and conduct unbecoming an officer of the court.

Shirley Sherrod. And she was innocent.

257 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:27:21pm

re: #236 kirkspencer

See, I have this opinion that the process should stand, and that by ensuring even the shtheads get their day in court we ensure everyone gets their day if needed.

If you literally mean “day in court”, it doesn’t apply here as he hasn’t been charged with any crime - this was loss of job due to employer finding he did something unbecoming the office.

Ironically enough, if the Indiana “right to work” legislation had gone through, his employer could have fired him without giving any reason at all :)

258 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:27:44pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

And so another wingnut martyr is born.

‘And all he did was advocate killing people for exercising their rights! Waaah!’

259 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:27:56pm

re: #59 celticdragon

Exactly! A confident, sexy women with a Ph.D and knows what cool new stuff is coming out of the Sukhoi and Mikoyan Gurevitch design bureaus in Russia.

:)

I think her Amish parents are terribly disappointed.

260 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:28:05pm

re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist

And speaking of Oliver Willis, how’s this for an interesting catch?

I’d say I was surprised, but i’d be lying. When bad news for the GOP happens, just lie! Fox has the best business model ever. If you have no principles at all, you never have to worry about compromising them.

261 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:28:09pm

For immediate release: Feb 23, 2011
Posted by: [Attorney General]
Contact:
Phone: XXXX
Email: XXXX

Statement from Attorney General’s Office on employee’s online postings

INDIANAPOLIS - Today the Indiana Attorney General’s Office announced that Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Cox is no longer employed by this agency.

The Indiana Attorney General’s Office conducted a thorough and expeditious review after “Mother Jones” magazine today published an article attributing private Twitter postings and private blog postings to Cox.

Civility and courtesy toward all members of the public are very important to the Indiana Attorney General’s Office. We respect individuals’ First Amendment right to express their personal views on private online forums, but as public servants we are held by the public to a higher standard, and we should strive for civility.

262 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:28:34pm

re: #237 darthstar

Upding for catching the Thumper reference. I loved Bambi…went so well with a good Bordeaux.

Bambi is my mother’s favorite disney movie, and she’s a disney obsessive who owns dozens of original cel frames from the feature films, so yeah, I know it well *_*

263 McSpiff  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:28:37pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

…really? Sigh

264 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:28:38pm

And Rush wonders why people raised hell when he was going to be a partner in an ownership group for a football team. It’s simple, Rush. You’re a stupid dickhead who makes his living insulting people. He’s free to make money how he wants to but he must truly be a miserable person inside to have made his livelihood like this.

265 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:28:56pm

re: #261 Gus 802

For immediate release: Feb 23, 2011
Posted by: [Attorney General]
Contact:
Phone: XXX
Email: XXX

Statement from Attorney General’s Office on employee’s online postings

INDIANAPOLIS - Today the Indiana Attorney General’s Office announced that Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Cox is no longer employed by this agency.

The Indiana Attorney General’s Office conducted a thorough and expeditious review after “Mother Jones” magazine today published an article attributing private Twitter postings and private blog postings to Cox.

Civility and courtesy toward all members of the public are very important to the Indiana Attorney General’s Office. We respect individuals’ First Amendment right to express their personal views on private online forums, but as public servants we are held by the public to a higher standard, and we should strive for civility.

“In short: You got caught, dumbass!”

266 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:29:00pm

re: #247 lawhawk

That was quick for his dismissal, which means that the inevitable questions of whether the state followed procedure in firing him will be asked in 3…2…1…

I’d say that the grounds were there for his firing as those comments were clearly wrong, inappropriate, and conduct unbecoming an officer of the court.

Yeah, that’s what I’m assuming. If he had been some random bureaucrat, it may have been different, but I can’t see how an assistant DA can make that sort of comment and expect to continue in her or his job, since it totally destroys his character and credibility.

267 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:29:49pm

re: #266 Simply Sarah

It puts cases at risk, too. Did he prosecute or not prosecute based on his obvious racism, his obvious hatred for anyone not sufficiently right-wing?

268 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:30:13pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

How soon before Fox News hires him?

269 dmon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:30:25pm

Fired? How the hell can that be? According to the right wing its impossible to fire public employees.

As a side note my fire department fired a firefighter a few months back for making threats against other employees.

The firing didnt take lot of effort, they just had have their ducks in a row….the union assured his due process rights, then happily waved goodbye as he left.
You cant find a single guy on the department that would advocate him getting his job back.

270 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:30:30pm

re: #238 Winny Spencer

Rush has apparently found something to really dig into.

Rush On First Lady: “If You’re Gonna Tell Everybody To Eat Twigs And Berries … You Had Better Look Like An Ethiopian”

I just can’t get over that comment. Ethiopia is regularly beset with food shortages. People do starve to death there. That is a joke that is incredibly bad taste. I don’t usually get pissed off by his taunting, but this one is just disgusting.

271 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:30:37pm

re: #249 SanFranciscoZionist

Rush, OTOH, apparently wants everyone to eat bacon double cheeseburgers, and is obviously following his own advice.

//What IS it with this man? The FLOTUS looks fine. She’s a healthy weight, she has good muscle tone—I should look half as good, and I’m a decade younger. WTF?

I did a page on this yesterday, and the really interesting thing was how other wingnut blogs, including drudge, were all over it. Apparently freaking out over FLOTUS and her kids going skiing.
littlegreenfootballs.com

272 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:30:50pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel


man, I wish I had the time to obsessively research comments on a blog I got kicked off of

I work for a living!

273 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:32:19pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Does he never know when to shut the hell up?

He gets paid an obscene amount of money to open his pie hole and spew forth whatever idiocy comes to mind. Shutting up is literally bad for business where Rush is concerned.

274 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:33:11pm

re: #263 McSpiff

…really? Sigh

wow, the 80’s called, they want their ethiopia jokes back!


I wonder if Rush is actually carrying around fat cells from the 80’s

I wonder how old the majority of his paunch is

do you think he’s got fat in there older than I am? As in there’s a 37 year old cheeseburger whose component fat molecules are still swinging around his midsection

275 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:33:26pm

re: #267 Obdicut

It puts cases at risk, too. Did he prosecute or not prosecute based on his obvious racism, his obvious hatred for anyone not sufficiently right-wing?

Well, I have no idea how successful challenges on those grounds would be (Probably not very, unless actual misconduct can be shown that would, by itself, call those cases into question), but it at least would suggest his cases deserve another look.

276 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:33:41pm

re: #245 jamesfirecat

If he feels he was fired injustly/without cause he can still sue can’t he?

First, philosophy: If we expect to be a nation of laws, the laws must apply equitably to all.

Second, practicality. Remember those NYC teachers the school district had to hire back? It wasn’t because they didn’t deserve to be fired, it was because the process wasn’t followed.

If you have a process intended to ensure due process and you ignore the process, you cannot get the case dismissed. Further and regardless of the merits of the actual firing you are probably going to have to re-hire the scum and pay back-pay.

So again, it bothers me that this was so fast. I am concerned the process wasn’t followed.

277 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:34:16pm

re: #269 dmon

Fired? How the hell can that be? According to the right wing its impossible to fire public employees.

As a side note my fire department fired a firefighter a few months back for making threats against other employees.

The firing didnt take lot of effort, they just had have their ducks in a row…the union assured his due process rights, then happily waved goodbye as he left.
You cant find a single guy on the department that would advocate him getting his job back.

Every time I hear somebody on the right bitch about how it’s “impossible” to hire a union member, I want to fall to the floor laughing. I don’t think I’ve met a person yet who, while working in a private business, didn’t have a coworker they thought was an utter dumbass who should be fired, but was pretty much untouchable due to one set of circumstances or another. The guy who’s a manager because he’s a kiss-ass, or because he’s family (blood or marriage) to the owner, etc, etc.

278 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:34:22pm

re: #247 lawhawk

That was quick for his dismissal, which means that the inevitable questions of whether the state followed procedure in firing him will be asked in 3…2…1…

I’d say that the grounds were there for his firing as those comments were clearly wrong, inappropriate, and conduct unbecoming an officer of the court.

Well, the twitter plus the blog, seems pretty out of bounds

279 Stanley Sea  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:34:28pm

Check this out!! (RE: Walker’s presser today)

news3jessica Jessica Arp

Quote directly above where Gov will speak twitpic.com

280 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:34:39pm

re: #276 kirkspencer

First, philosophy: If we expect to be a nation of laws, the laws must apply equitably to all.

Second, practicality. Remember those NYC teachers the school district had to hire back? It wasn’t because they didn’t deserve to be fired, it was because the process wasn’t followed.

If you have a process intended to ensure due process and you ignore the process, you cannot get the case dismissed. Further and regardless of the merits of the actual firing you are probably going to have to re-hire the scum and pay back-pay.

So again, it bothers me that this was so fast. I am concerned the process wasn’t followed.

That is a reasonable concern, how can we determine if it was followed or not?

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:03pm

re: #271 iceweasel

I did a page on this yesterday, and the really interesting thing was how other wingnut blogs, including drudge, were all over it. Apparently freaking out over FLOTUS and her kids going skiing.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

They’re not allowed to eat healthy, they’re not allowed to garden, they’re not allowed to go to Spain, they’re not allowed to wear fancy shoes, they’re not allowed to ski…what exactly would these folks like the First Lady to do with her time?

282 Ericus58  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:04pm

#2023: US secretary of state Hillary Clinton speaks on Libya: “We have to get the international community together - to that end we joined a very strong UN security council statement yesterday. We are joining the rest of the world in sending a message to the Libyan government that it will be held accountable.”

#2025: As if responding to Mrs Clinton’s speech, the UK’s Telegraph newspaper has a thought-provoking opinion piece arguing: “Why should these matters be left to the Americans, or to Nato forces? Are other Arab leaders so intent on saving their own necks, or so wary of fomenting insurrection elsewhere, that they will do nothing beyond denouncing Gaddafi?”
telegraph.co.uk

283 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:29pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

Check this out!! (RE: Walker’s presser today)

news3jessica Jessica Arp

Quote directly above where Gov will speak [Link: twitpic.com…]

The will of the people Koch brothers is the law of the land.

//

284 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:37pm

I give good odds now this guy pops up on Fox News or Beck’s radio program within the next day or so.

285 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:50pm

If Rush wants to play this stupid game, so be it.
Rush, you are no longer allowed to comment on drug related issues.

286 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:55pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

They’re not allowed to eat healthy, they’re not allowed to garden, they’re not allowed to go to Spain, they’re not allowed to wear fancy shoes, they’re not allowed to ski…what exactly would these folks like the First Lady to do with her time?

Spend it campaigning for Palin?

287 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:35:57pm

re: #277 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Every time I hear somebody on the right bitch about how it’s “impossible” to hire a union member, I want to fall to the floor laughing. I don’t think I’ve met a person yet who, while working in a private business, didn’t have a coworker they thought was an utter dumbass who should be fired, but was pretty much untouchable due to one set of circumstances or another. The guy who’s a manager because he’s a kiss-ass, or because he’s family (blood or marriage) to the owner, etc, etc.


When I was working non-union in health care? Almost impossible to fire people, because of nepotism and because HR didn’t do their job

Abusive people kept their jobs for months, years. No union! Just slow-ass garbage management who didn’t care

288 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:36:22pm

re: #284 dragonfire1981

I give good odds now this guy pops up on Fox News or Beck’s radio program within the next day or so.

“First Amendment Rights” will be one of the most-bandied phrases during the discussions.

289 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:36:23pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

HE WAS FIRED!!!

YAY

[Link: www.oliverwillis.com…]

LOL, what a day.

290 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:36:29pm

re: #272 WindUpBird

man, I wish I had the time to obsessively research comments on a blog I got kicked off of

I work for a living!

They are a remarkable breed. One of the most amazing things I’ve seen from them is a statistical analysis of LGF posting patterns that goes on for several pages, complete with graphs and arcane calculations. The whole idea was to “prove” that this place is an echo chamber.
I don’t rate high enough to have my every word dissected but some of the Lizardoids do. As for Charles, well, if you could get a PhD in internet obsession, he would be the subject of many dissertations.

291 Kragar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:37:28pm

re: #288 ralphieboy

“First Amendment Rights” will be one of the most-bandied phrases during the discussions.

No one is stopping him from saying anything at all.

292 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:37:29pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

They’re not allowed to eat healthy, they’re not allowed to garden, they’re not allowed to go to Spain, they’re not allowed to wear fancy shoes, they’re not allowed to ski…what exactly would these folks like the First Lady to do with her time?

Working hard to stop being smart, attractive, successful, thoughtful, inspiring…

293 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:37:38pm

re: #251 Talking Point Detective

I would think that they investigated whether he sent the tweet, and upon confirming that he did so, fired him for inappropriate behavior.

What more would you expect?

When confronted, Cox doubled down and said, “You’re damned right I advocate deadly force.”

Sounds like confirmation that he did so.

294 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:37:44pm

re: #284 dragonfire1981

I give good odds now this guy pops up on Fox News or Beck’s radio program within the next day or so.

yeah, for all I know this was a stunt he deliberately did to get himself into the rock-star ultra-right-wing psycho pundit stream

HURR HURR LET’S MURDER SOME AMERICANS BECUZ THEY PROTESTIN

DERP DERP I GOT A LAW DEGREE AND YET BEHOLD I’M DUMB AS HAMMERED SHIT

295 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:38:15pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

They’re not allowed to eat healthy, they’re not allowed to garden, they’re not allowed to go to Spain, they’re not allowed to wear fancy shoes, they’re not allowed to ski…what exactly would these folks like the First Lady to do with her time?

Be Nancy Reagan.

296 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:38:58pm

re: #277 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Every time I hear somebody on the right bitch about how it’s “impossible” to hire a union member, I want to fall to the floor laughing. I don’t think I’ve met a person yet who, while working in a private business, didn’t have a coworker they thought was an utter dumbass who should be fired, but was pretty much untouchable due to one set of circumstances or another. The guy who’s a manager because he’s a kiss-ass, or because he’s family (blood or marriage) to the owner, etc, etc.

I’ve been fired from a union job. (Actually, they couldn’t fire me, I quit, but that’s another story.)

The union was very nice, and gave me a lot of help and support, but the administration made the call.

297 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:39:15pm

re: #291 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No one is stopping him from saying anything at all.


When these people talk about their “First Amendment Rights” they mean the right to say anything they want without criticism or consequences.

298 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:39:15pm

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel

I pay pretty close attention to the internet, but that’s because it’s my job. Can’t imagine analyzing blog comments unless I was getting a tasty salary for it!

Oh well, the things people do for fun

299 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:39:58pm

re: #294 WindUpBird

yeah, for all I know this was a stunt he deliberately did to get himself into the rock-star ultra-right-wing psycho pundit stream

HURR HURR LET’S MURDER SOME AMERICANS BECUZ THEY PROTESTIN

DERP DERP I GOT A LAW DEGREE AND YET BEHOLD I’M DUMB AS HAMMERED SHIT

“hammered shit”— ha! upding.

300 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:40:06pm

re: #280 jamesfirecat

That is a reasonable concern, how can we determine if it was followed or not?

I don’t know it wasn’t. I just know that if he’d been arrested for, say, multiple counts of cannibalism he’d have been suspended without pay while the situation was reviewed.

So we won’t know unless he sues over that issue.

I’m glad he’s gone, I just hope they made sure he stays gone.

301 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:40:14pm

re: #295 Jimmah

Be Nancy Reagan.

you mean conduct seances and read the alignments of planets, governing the ship of the presidency by celestial bodies hurtling through time and space?

LET’S DO THIS SHIT

302 dmon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:40:41pm

The firing of union workers happens all the time. I work as a lieutenant for a fire department in Ohio.


Out of a workforce of 270 we have fired 4 people in the last six months, i personally had a hand in two of those. They got fired, the union represented them, assured that their due process rights were followed. The city had their ducks in a row.

With these particular 4 people…….none of us miss them

303 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:40:43pm

re: #258 Jimmah

And so another wingnut martyr is born.

‘And all he did was advocate killing people for exercising their rights! Waaah!’

What do you mean? Using 1st amendment rights to call for unlimited use of 2nd amendment rights is exactly what The Founding Fathers® intended.

/

304 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:40:57pm

re: #295 Jimmah

Be Nancy Reagan.

Be crazy, like Mary Lincoln.

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:41:09pm

re: #284 dragonfire1981

I give good odds now this guy pops up on Fox News or Beck’s radio program within the next day or so.

Be interesting to see, if so. How in God’s name is anyone going to justify what he said? It’s not real subtle.

306 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:41:27pm

re: #300 kirkspencer

I don’t know it wasn’t. I just know that if he’d been arrested for, say, multiple counts of cannibalism he’d have been suspended without pay while the situation was reviewed.

So we won’t know unless he sues over that issue.

I’m glad he’s gone, I just hope they made sure he stays gone.

Well, if he admitted to posting the comments…that likely would have significantly sped up the process.

307 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:42:03pm

Speaking of healthy eating. I’m leading a cooking demo and class tomorrow on beans. Talking all about beads and teaching people how to make chicken and bean burritos. They’re going to be actually making them with my direction. It’s the first time I’ve ever done anything like this. I thought I would be fine and I will be but right now my nerves are working overtime. I’m making up a demo ‘finished’ version of the dish tonight but right now my stomach is so full of butterflies that the thought of food makes me nauseous.

Someone talk me down!!!

308 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:42:13pm

Indiana Deputy Attorney General Jeff Cox fired for Tweeting violent wingnut comment.

Checkmate!

[applause]

309 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:42:19pm

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

310 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:42:45pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

I, uh…what?

311 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:43:07pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

wow, looks like that guy doesn’t quite have the juice he thought he did

312 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:43:27pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

And how he’ll be getting rid of them unless people agree to his bill!

313 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:43:53pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

Yeah, namely his and his buddies in the legislature, all them bought by Big Business.

314 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:05pm

re: #277 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Every time I hear somebody on the right bitch about how it’s “impossible” to hire a union member, I want to fall to the floor laughing. I don’t think I’ve met a person yet who, while working in a private business, didn’t have a coworker they thought was an utter dumbass who should be fired, but was pretty much untouchable due to one set of circumstances or another. The guy who’s a manager because he’s a kiss-ass, or because he’s family (blood or marriage) to the owner, etc, etc.

Unions make it very difficult for sloppy, untrained, arbitrary managers to fire someone. When a union official is working to save a dud, and he’s facing a supervisor who knows his shit and has a case, the union guy knows when to throw up his hands. (It is his duty to give it a good try, however.)

315 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:08pm

re: #300 kirkspencer

I don’t know it wasn’t. I just know that if he’d been arrested for, say, multiple counts of cannibalism he’d have been suspended without pay while the situation was reviewed.

So we won’t know unless he sues over that issue.

I’m glad he’s gone, I just hope they made sure he stays gone.

Then again, if he were arrested for multiple counts of cannibalism, Rush et. al. would just claim that it’s the victims’ fault for being so damn delicious.

I think openly calling for civilians to be mass murdered qualifies as bad enough to fire summarily. I do get your concern though, because if rules were broken, then Shitbag McMurderface might be entitled money, or his job back.

316 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:20pm

Walker presser.

Go here wkow.com and click “watch it live”.

317 Idle Drifter  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:23pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

Can we harness Walker for clean energy?

318 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:34pm

even Libya was burned by our credit crisis: huffingtonpost.com

319 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:57pm

re: #292 Simply Sarah

Working hard to stop being smart, attractive, successful, thoughtful, inspiring…

I can’t help but wonder what craziness we’d be seeing from the wingnuts if Michelle had chosen to continue Laura Bush’s work on literacy.

“If you’re going to go around telling children to READ…”

320 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:44:59pm

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel

They are a remarkable breed. One of the most amazing things I’ve seen from them is a statistical analysis of LGF posting patterns that goes on for several pages, complete with graphs and arcane calculations. The whole idea was to “prove” that this place is an echo chamber.
I don’t rate high enough to have my every word dissected but some of the Lizardoids do. As for Charles, well, if you could get a PhD in internet obsession, he would be the subject of many dissertations.

They’ve invented their own reality with their own (invariably sick) fantasy versions of LGF posters to populate it with. I guess it’s easier than getting a life of your own.

321 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:45:09pm

Afternoon Honcos.

322 Lidane  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:45:24pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

Seriously? LOL!

323 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:45:28pm

Uh. If you don’t pay your union dues you won’t get the union protection. It’s counter productive.

324 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:45:39pm

re: #295 Jimmah

Be Nancy Reagan.

Hell, if they think MICHELLE’S shoes are too expensive…

325 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:45:50pm

re: #319 SanFranciscoZionist

I can’t help but wonder what craziness we’d be seeing from the wingnuts if Michelle had chosen to continue Laura Bush’s work on literacy.

“If you’re going to go around telling children to READ…”

Oh my God! The BLACK MUSLIM PRESIDENT WIFE IS INDOCTRINATING YOUR CHILDREN!

326 Simply Sarah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:46:01pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

Oh, I get it now! Walker is saying how he’s doing this out of the goodness of his heart, since the only way to save these poor union workers from being fired is to make sure they would never want to keep them. He’s just looking out for their best interests. What a great guy!
/

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:46:25pm

re: #297 ralphieboy

When these people talk about their “First Amendment Rights” they mean the right to say anything they want without criticism or consequences.

And yet, Shirley Sherrod…

328 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:46:38pm

re: #326 Simply Sarah

Oh, I get it now! Walker is saying how he’s doing this out of the goodness of his heart, since the only way to save these poor union workers from being fired is to make sure they would never want to keep them. He’s just looking out for their best interests. What a great guy!
/

ahhahaha

hee hee

hoohoohoohoohoo

329 webevintage  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:46:38pm
That didn’t take long — Cox has now been fired.

Good.
Could not have happened to a better guy.


what an ass….

330 dmon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:46:52pm

Walkers so nice….hes offering the union guys the right not to pay dues…… judging by the crowds……the union isnt asking for that right…..

331 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:47:04pm

lol
He’s complaining about people interfering from out of state.

332 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:47:13pm

re: #326 Simply Sarah

Oh, I get it now! Walker is saying how he’s doing this out of the goodness of his heart, since the only way to save these poor union workers from being fired is to make sure they would never want to keep them. He’s just looking out for their best interests. What a great guy!
/

Nice employees ya got there.

Be a shame if anything happened to them.

333 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:47:26pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

lol
He’s complaining about people interfering from out of state.

Gold!

334 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:47:49pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

lol
He’s complaining about people interfering from out of state.

What does it say about you when you manage to offend the people who don’t even live anywhere near you?

335 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:47:58pm

re: #309 Charles

Scott Walker is now spinning like crazy … says his anti-union bill is “all about jobs.”

LOL!

What a piece of shit. Walker may just get himself recalled the instant he has been in office long enough. He doesn’t have the political skill to fuck people over with a smile. I.e., he’s no Reagan.

336 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:47:58pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

Has he mentioned taking the Koch?

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:22pm

re: #301 WindUpBird

you mean conduct seances and read the alignments of planets, governing the ship of the presidency by celestial bodies hurtling through time and space?

LET’S DO THIS SHIT

My mother-in-law—the one who falls asleep listening to the Alex Jones podcasts—told me in all apparent seriousness that Michelle’s mother is a voodoo priestess who is casting spells to keep Obama safe from assassination.

Because I did not want to make a scene in a dollar store in rural Louisiana (they might have kicked us out, and they had air conditioning), I just commented that so far she seems to be doing a good job.

338 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:23pm

re: #334 jamesfirecat

What does it say about you when you manage to offend the people who don’t even live anywhere near you?

That means you have the internet!!

339 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:25pm

re: #335 Fozzie Bear

LOL!

What a piece of shit. Walker may just get himself recalled the instant he has been in office long enough. He doesn’t have the political skill to fuck people over with a smile. I.e., he’s no Reagan.

yeah, it seems like apart from his politics, he doesn’t play the game very well!

340 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:44pm

re: #307 Jadespring

Speaking of healthy eating. I’m leading a cooking demo and class tomorrow on beans. Talking all about beads and teaching people how to make chicken and bean burritos. They’re going to be actually making them with my direction. It’s the first time I’ve ever done anything like this. I thought I would be fine and I will be but right now my nerves are working overtime. I’m making up a demo ‘finished’ version of the dish tonight but right now my stomach is so full of butterflies that the thought of food makes me nauseous.

Someone talk me down!!!

I have taught bike repair many times. The butterflies flew away long ago.

As long as your information is organized and you don’t get sidetracked and off-topic until AFTER you cover the info they came for, they will LOVE you.

341 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:53pm

re: #336 Obdicut

Has he mentioned taking the Koch?

He’s talking about it now. He says the phone call is a distraction from the issue.

342 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:53pm

“We were thinking about using trouble makers.”

Uh huh.

343 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:48:55pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

lol
He’s complaining about people interfering from out of state.

Motherfucking irony overload.

344 jamesfirecat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:49:03pm

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

My mother-in-law—the one who falls asleep listening to the Alex Jones podcasts—told me in all apparent seriousness that Michelle’s mother is a voodoo priestess who is casting spells to keep Obama safe from assassination.

Because I did not want to make a scene in a dollar store in rural Louisiana (they might have kicked us out, and they had air conditioning), I just commented that so far she seems to be doing a good job.

Does she see something wrong with the idea that Michelle’s mother might be trying to protect her son in law through religious means?

345 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:49:22pm

Walker = Asshole

346 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:49:36pm

re: #307 Jadespring

Speaking of healthy eating. I’m leading a cooking demo and class tomorrow on beans. Talking all about beads and teaching people how to make chicken and bean burritos. They’re going to be actually making them with my direction. It’s the first time I’ve ever done anything like this. I thought I would be fine and I will be but right now my nerves are working overtime. I’m making up a demo ‘finished’ version of the dish tonight but right now my stomach is so full of butterflies that the thought of food makes me nauseous.

Someone talk me down!!!

You will be fine. They will have fun, and the chicken and bean burritos will be excellent.

347 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:49:54pm

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

My mother-in-law—the one who falls asleep listening to the Alex Jones podcasts—told me in all apparent seriousness that Michelle’s mother is a voodoo priestess who is casting spells to keep Obama safe from assassination.

Because I did not want to make a scene in a dollar store in rural Louisiana (they might have kicked us out, and they had air conditioning), I just commented that so far she seems to be doing a good job.

ahahahahahaha THAT RULES

yeah, at that point, don’t argue! you are sitting on a gold mine of prose! just keep her talking and write it all down, put that in a blog, readership for days

Sounds like the plot to a manga, President being protected by voodoo

348 celticdragon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:49:56pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

lol
He’s complaining about people interfering from out of state.

Funny how that sounds like the white cracker racist bosses in nofuckingwhere Mississippi who always complained about outside agitators “stirring up the Negros”.

349 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:50:24pm

re: #342 Gus 802

“We were thinking about using trouble makers.”

Uh huh.

Troublemakers need a union too!

350 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:51:12pm

re: #323 Gus 802

Uh. If you don’t pay your union dues you won’t get the union protection. It’s counter productive.

But that proves that the unions are only out for themselves, and don’t really care about the workers, if they won’t protect people who don’t pay union dues….

///

351 Gus  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:51:41pm

re: #349 iceweasel

Troublemakers need a union too!

He also said the union members can save 1000 bucks a year once they stop paying their union dues!

Too funny.

352 webevintage  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:52:19pm

re: #341 Killgore Trout

He’s talking about it now. He says the phone call is a distraction from the issue.

hahahahahaha
So that’s what they call it these days….

353 iossarian  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:52:22pm

re: #351 Gus 802

He also said the union members can save 1000 bucks a year once they stop paying their union dues!

Too funny.

Money in your pocket.

What a fool.

354 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:52:51pm

re: #347 WindUpBird

ahahahahahaha THAT RULES

yeah, at that point, don’t argue! you are sitting on a gold mine of prose! just keep her talking and write it all down, put that in a blog, readership for days

Sounds like the plot to a manga, President being protected by voodoo

Yes, this could go viral. “Shit My Mother-in Law Says” would be a good title.

355 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:53:23pm

re: #353 iossarian

Money in your pocket.

Instead of a lockbox.

/random 2000 flashback

356 webevintage  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:53:37pm

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

My mother-in-law—the one who falls asleep listening to the Alex Jones podcasts—told me in all apparent seriousness that Michelle’s mother is a voodoo priestess who is casting spells to keep Obama safe from assassination.


That is awesome on so many levels….

357 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:53:50pm

re: #344 jamesfirecat

Does she see something wrong with the idea that Michelle’s mother might be trying to protect her son in law through religious means?

Actually, I don’t think so. She seemed reasonable approving.

358 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:54:05pm

re: #282 Ericus58

The answer to the second part is that yes - the Arab regimes are trying to save themselves, and can’t be bothered to offer a life preserver to Libya when they may need one themselves.

The Saudis are trying to buy an extension to their regime with a new payout estimated at $37 billion to help Saudis buy stuff, marry, etc.

Bahrain tried a similar tact, with a payout of $2,650 per person.

Even before King Abdullah landed in Riyadh, the capital, the Saudi government announced that it would pour billions of dollars into a fund to help its citizens marry, buy homes and start their own businesses, the government announced. Reuters said the package was estimated at $37 billion.

King Hamad had already tried his own payout — offering $2,650 to every Bahraini family in the days before large protests broke out more than a week ago — but the economic concession was not enough to stem the tide of opposition from the country’s Shiite majority. Sunnis, the majority in Saudi Arabia, also form the ruling class in Bahrain, where Sunnis are a minority.

They’re using the oil money to try and buy time. It’s worked in the past, but this time may result in a completely different outcome, particularly since the Egyptian and Tunisian regimes have fallen, and Libya looks like it’s next.

359 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:54:19pm

re: #355 iceweasel

Instead of a lockbox.

/random 2000 flashback

Gore/Liberman skit on SNL in the jacuzzi!!!

360 dmon  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:55:58pm

re: #351 Gus 802

Yep and Koch brothers could have saved $34000 by not contributing to Walker….apparently in both cases they feel its a good investment

As far as union dues go….. my contribution also covers the cost of our union hall that I can rent for pennys on the dollar, Christmas parties for our kids, golf outings, contributions to local childrens hospital burn unit, etc, etc, etc

361 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:56:22pm

re: #351 Gus 802

He also said the union members can save 1000 bucks a year once they stop paying their union dues!

Too funny.

you mean I can trade all my workplace advocacy for a new TV?

Sounds like something a dipshit would do!

362 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:57:02pm

re: #360 dmon

Yep and Koch brothers could have saved $34000 by not contributing to Walker…apparently in both cases they feel its a good investment

As far as union dues go… my contribution also covers the cost of our union hall that I can rent for pennys on the dollar, Christmas parties for our kids, golf outings, contributions to local childrens hospital burn unit, etc, etc, etc

Sharing resources?

SOCIALISM!

contributing to public welfare?

SOCIALISM!!!

363 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:57:06pm

re: #340 wrenchwench

re: #346 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks guys. Just needed to hear it. I don’t know how I could be more organized. I made lists of the lists I needed to make. I’m just at the second guessing stage mostly because I worried I’m forgetting something. Ah well if I did I’ll muddle through. I have handouts and about 10 different types of beans to show people and I know some of them have never seen them before so that part should be cool.
I’m also doing a making hummus demo which I have made hundreds of time before myself but it is different when you’ve got people watching. LOL

364 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:57:22pm

re: #359 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gore/Liberman skit on SNL in the jacuzzi!!!

I remember that, I loled

365 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:58:01pm

re: #348 celticdragon

Funny how that sounds like the white cracker racist bosses in nofuckingwhere Mississippi who always complained about outside agitators “stirring up the Negros”.

yep!

366 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:58:06pm

re: #362 WindUpBird

Sharing resources?

SOCIALISM!

contributing to public welfare?

SOCIALISM!!!

Christmas parties for kids? Golf outings?

ELITISM!

367 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 12:59:01pm

re: #363 Jadespring

re: #346 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks guys. Just needed to hear it. I don’t know how I could be more organized. I made lists of the lists I needed to make. I’m just at the second guessing stage mostly because I worried I’m forgetting something. Ah well if I did I’ll muddle through. I have handouts and about 10 different types of beans to show people and I know some of them have never seen them before so that part should be cool.
I’m also doing a making hummus demo which I have made hundreds of time before myself but it is different when you’ve got people watching. LOL

It is. And it’s OK to be nervous, but remind yourself that this is something you’re comfortable and familiar with, and if you have forgotten something, you improvise.

These folks are coming because they want to learn about beans. They are not going to stone you if the workshop is less than perfect.

Actually, I would like to attend myself. Are you going to talk about how to cook dried beans?

368 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:00:27pm

re: #363 Jadespring

Hey, my mom is doing a similar thing in San Francisco, but she’s doing it on how to cook with just a hotplate/slow cooker/microwave, and still eat healthy.

She’s enjoyed it so far.

369 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:02:08pm

re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist

Unfortunately, he has me doing it now also (he, my sister, aunts, uncles, cousins - family is lousy with lawyers). It DOES make it harder to enjoy a movie/tv show when you know they have totally screwed up the law and how it works.

370 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:02:46pm

He deleted his wingnut blog.

371 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:06:49pm

re: #367 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, I would like to attend myself. Are you going to talk about how to cook dried beans?

Yep. That’s going to be a main part of it. I’m going to be covering a brief history of beans, types of beans , how to cook with them from dried and about how to use them in cooking. I’m showing how to make hummus and then making the burrito dish. It’s for a community kitchen program.
At the last session I attended many people didn’t even know what a chick pea was or hummus so I suppose that will be impressive enough.

372 Jadespring  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:07:28pm

re: #368 Obdicut

Hey, my mom is doing a similar thing in San Francisco, but she’s doing it on how to cook with just a hotplate/slow cooker/microwave, and still eat healthy.

She’s enjoyed it so far.

Cool. :)

373 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:09:20pm

re: #371 Jadespring

Yep. That’s going to be a main part of it. I’m going to be covering a brief history of beans, types of beans , how to cook with them from dried and about how to use them in cooking. I’m showing how to make hummus and then making the burrito dish. It’s for a community kitchen program.
At the last session I attended many people didn’t even know what a chick pea was or hummus so I suppose that will be impressive enough.

Sure…you’re introducing them to a whole new range of things. It’s fun, it’s interesting…go for it!

374 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:23:33pm

re: #307 Jadespring

Speaking of healthy eating. I’m leading a cooking demo and class tomorrow on beans. Talking all about beads and teaching people how to make chicken and bean burritos. They’re going to be actually making them with my direction. It’s the first time I’ve ever done anything like this. I thought I would be fine and I will be but right now my nerves are working overtime. I’m making up a demo ‘finished’ version of the dish tonight but right now my stomach is so full of butterflies that the thought of food makes me nauseous.

Someone talk me down!!!


You’ll be fine. Just get them to follow the recipe exactly as written by you. Knowing they get to eat the finished product will calm them down also. Maybe put a joke in there somewhere?

375 leftynyc  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:26:27pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

lol
He’s complaining about people interfering from out of state.

After getting punked by the faxu Koch call? He’s going to complain about outsiders? I hope every paper in WI rips him a new one.

376 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 2:39:02pm

re: #156 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Word to the wise: Avoid reading a book before seeing the movie. Because no matter how good the movie is, you will still sit through the film, going “Damnit, they screwed that up!”

There is one movie that is much better than the book: Jaws.

The movie is a deserved classic. The book? I ran it through a shredder and put it in my hamsters cage.

377 theheat  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 4:14:54pm

Armed uprising, or in this case suppression of dissidents, is one of the most common jerkoff fantasies the GOP and secessionists entertain. It brings all the necessary ingredients to the soup: gun rights, intimidation of liberals, and wild west/founding fathers nostalgia.

It can be problematic, however, when they share these fantasies with others not of their kind, or the actual targets of their fantasies. Then blasting away your opposition seems all dictator-ish and someone gets their hand slapped for behaving “inappropriately.”

But it doesn’t stop them from thinking about it, and hoping to facilitate it. That’s one of the things that makes these people so scary.

378 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 8:37:29pm

re: #199 Ericus58

Read this book:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The Best.

in the Amazon Wish List.

Thanks.

379 Stephen T.  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:10:32pm

re: #118 ggt

But, But, But IT’S A double-plus LOUSY MOVIE!

Absolutely horrific. Why even watch it?

Because it’s the movie with Doogie Himmler?


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