Saturday Night Mahi-Mahi Open
The fish abides
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I’m trying to decide between sauteed mahi-mahi or fresh seared ahi, and leaning toward the ahi, so here’s a Saturday night open thread…
484 comments
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:39:02pm |
re: #2 brookly red
I never got into seared. Tried it but I want sauteed or sashimi. I guess I'm a tune extremist.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:40:35pm |
re: #3 Rightwingconspirator
I never got into seared. Tried it but I want sauteed or sashimi. I guess I'm a tune extremist.
fish is kinda like raw or seared... no in between, except for fried of course.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:40:44pm |
re: #3 Rightwingconspirator
Damn. PIMF
Tuna extremest. Sheesh I think I need preview to be clicked before post this comment even becomes visible.
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Jadespring Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:40:50pm |
Geez it's relive my teen years nostalgia night on the tube. First 'Top Gun' and now "Lost Boys.'
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:41:30pm |
Hmm. 3 to 6000.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:41:54pm |
re: #5 Rightwingconspirator
Damn. PIMF
Tuna extremest. Sheesh I think I need preview to be clicked before post this comment even becomes visible.
/oh I thought you were just posting on autotuna...
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Kragar Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:44:15pm |
re: #6 Jadespring
Geez it's relive my teen years nostalgia night on the tube. First 'Top Gun' and now "Lost Boys.'
I got "Nate and Hayes" from netflix a few days ago.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:45:16pm |
I came in here and got a caviar ad. That is tasty.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:50:49pm |
I hate mahi mahi in Hawaii back in 1990..It grossed me out
I don't like warm water fish... Yes I know I suck..
I can eat Walleye fish on the grill...I was in a meeting the other day where we had free popcorn...The smell of popcorn makes me throw up....
I truly wish I could eat anything...I really do
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:51:22pm |
open thread, 24 logged in, 10 comments... sad, very sad.
/Look! there goes Sarah Palin!
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:51:56pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
I hate mahi mahi in Hawaii back in 1990..It grossed me out
I don't like warm water fish... Yes I know I suck..
I can eat Walleye fish on the grill...I was in a meeting the other day where we had free popcorn...The smell of popcorn makes me throw up...
I truly wish I could eat anything...I really do
I'm with you re warm water fish.
Not my cup of tea.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:52:08pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
I hate mahi mahi in Hawaii back in 1990..It grossed me out
I don't like warm water fish... Yes I know I suck..
I can eat Walleye fish on the grill...I was in a meeting the other day where we had free popcorn...The smell of popcorn makes me throw up...
I truly wish I could eat anything...I really do
are you by any chance pregnant?
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:52:22pm |
As for my dinner, I'm still experimenting with mixing HD and B&J flavors.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:52:30pm |
very sad no recipes for mahi-mahi on Cooks Illustrated.
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Transfromnation Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:52:49pm |
Mahi-Mahi's delicious with a mango salsa, if that helps to persuade you.
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Kragar Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:53:43pm |
re: #12 brookly red
open thread, 24 logged in, 10 comments... sad, very sad.
/Look! there goes Sarah Palin!
Hey, I got my new game working finally.
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:53:53pm |
re: #13 researchok
I like eel, but most warm water fish don't do much for me either.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:54:10pm |
re: #15 freetoken
As for my dinner, I'm still experimenting with mixing HD and B&J flavors.
fucking with the primary forces of nature again, eh?
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compound idaho Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:54:24pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
I hate mahi mahi in Hawaii back in 1990..It grossed me out
I don't like warm water fish... Yes I know I suck..
I can eat Walleye fish on the grill...I was in a meeting the other day where we had free popcorn...The smell of popcorn makes me throw up...
I truly wish I could eat anything...I really do
Not to worry. It could be worse. I can eat anything and often do. I had mini-hot dogs and whiskey for dinner tonight.
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Transfromnation Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:55:20pm |
re: #22 compound idaho
Not to worry. It could be worse. I can eat anything and often do. I had mini-hot dogs and whiskey for dinner tonight.
That's considered a delicacy here in New Jersey.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:57:31pm |
re: #19 freetoken
I like eel, but most warm water fish don't do much for me either.
I can't do eel.
I won't even try
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Kragar Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:57:53pm |
re: #22 compound idaho
Not to worry. It could be worse. I can eat anything and often do. I had mini-hot dogs and whiskey for dinner tonight.
We tried a new place that opened up around the corner. Hot wings and ribs.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:57:55pm |
re: #23 Transfromnation
That's considered a delicacy here in New Jersey.
so is chef boyardie & spam w/Velveeta...
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Kragar Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:58:14pm |
re: #25 researchok
I can't do eel.
I won't even try
I've tried eel and just can't stand the texture.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:58:30pm |
re: #14 brookly red
are you by any chance pregnant?
I am just the pickiest eater in the world..I just can't eat normal food..It has been my curse my whole life.. It's not fun...trust me.. I live on eggs and mushrooms and cheese
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Eclectic Infidel Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:58:49pm |
An alternative idea: forego the cooked fish and go out for sushi instead.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:59:35pm |
Outrageous!
I'm partial towards the mahi mahi. Great fish for the grill and it's more sustainable than the ahi. I'm pretty sure they're both net caught fish so there is the issue of by catch of other species.
Pacific rock fish is affordable, line caught (so there's no by catch) and very sustainable.
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efuseakay Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:59:40pm |
Ahi of course. Chili powder, cumin, paprika, salt, pepper, and sesame seeds. Keep it simple! :D
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:59:45pm |
re: #25 researchok
I can't do eel.
I won't even try
oooh you gotta catch em fresh & snap em like a whip so their guts fly out & the pan fry em in butter right on the beach...
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Transfromnation Sat, Feb 26, 2011 6:59:59pm |
re: #27 brookly red
so is chef boyardie & spam w/Velveeta...
How did you know what I was eating for dinner?
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:00:29pm |
re: #29 HoosierHoops
I am just the pickiest eater in the world..I just can't eat normal food..It has been my curse my whole life.. It's not fun...trust me.. I live on eggs and mushrooms and cheese
thank God for omelets.
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Eclectic Infidel Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:01:11pm |
re: #33 brookly red
oooh you gotta catch em fresh & snap em like a whip so their guts fly out & the pan fry em in butter right on the beach...
Fresh water eel...a staple in most sushi eateries. It's served cooked. Better than chicken!
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:01:27pm |
re: #34 Transfromnation
How did you know what I was eating for dinner?
I tracked your exit through your easy pass...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:02:10pm |
Hugh's Fish Fight: Join The Fish Fight: [Link: www.fishfight.net...]
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:03:03pm |
re: #33 brookly red
oooh you gotta catch em fresh & snap em like a whip so their guts fly out & the pan fry em in butter right on the beach...
Go ahead. Kill me.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:03:47pm |
re: #35 brookly red
thank God for omelets.
and veggie pizzas with pineapples on top..
/I know you hate that..But it's all I got for pizza
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:03:52pm |
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:04:46pm |
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:05:17pm |
re: #40 HoosierHoops
and veggie pizzas with pineapples on top..
/I know you hate that..But it's all I got for pizza
I grant you special dispensation... let it be said not that I am with out mercy.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:06:32pm |
Been surfing around on Judith Curry's blog on climate change - lots of interesting stuff happening there, it's a real flame war - and also some other climate change blogs. Inevitably, I wound up at WUWT and just for kicks watched an amazingly over-the-top (lots of "One World Government stuff) video by the meteorologist John Coleman.
Anyway, Coleman mentions a poll done by Scientific American that showed that "science readers at least have abandoned the global bandwagon."
So I figured I'd Google a bit, and came across this:
Readers of the Wall Street Journal may have been surprised by an editorial that appeared Tuesday. We editors at Scientific American certainly were.
In his opinion piece, techno-utopian intellectual George Gilder takes California's Silicon Valley to task for its green initiatives to create jobs. At one point, he makes this sloppy claim:
"Republican politicians are apparently lower in climate skepticism than readers of Scientific American, which recently discovered to its horror that some 80 percent of its subscribers, mostly American scientists, reject man-made global warming catastrophe fears."
First, fewer than 10 percent of our subscribers are scientists. Second, the 80 percent climate denial number is not to be believed.
For that 80 percent figure, I'm guessing Gilder relied on a poll that we created for an October 2010 article on Judith Curry. Question number 3 in particular asked visitors, "What is causing climate change?" The poll results show that 77.8 percent responded "natural processes"; only 26.4 percent picked "greenhouse gases from human activity."
Ignore for the moment that this poll was not scientific (nor was it meant to be) and that it was open to all who have access to the Internet, not just to our subscribers, as Gilder implied.
Rather, the big problem was that the poll was skewed by visitors who clicked over from the well-known climate denier site, Watts Up With That? Run by Anthony Watts, the site created a web page urging users to take the poll.
It sure worked. Our traffic statistics from October 25, when the poll went live, to November 1 (the latest for which we have data on referrals) indicate that 30.5 percent of page views (about 4,000) of the poll came from Watts Up. The next highest referrer at 16 percent was a Canadian blog site smalldeadanimals.com; it consists of an eclectic mix of posts and comments, and if I had to guess, I would say its users leaned toward the climate denier side based on a few comments I saw. Meanwhile, on the other side of the climate debate, Joe Romm's Climate Progress drove just 2.9 percent and was the third highest referrer.
So we were horrified alright---by the co-opting of the poll by Watts Up users, who probably voted along the denier plank. In fact, having just two sites drive nearly half the traffic to the poll assuredly means that the numbers do not reflect the attitudes of Scientific American readers.
I'm not sure what the poll numbers ultimately mean. (The poll also showed that 68 percent think science should be kept out of the political process--when did we officially go back to medieval thinking?) Given how the poll has become meaningless and skewed, I have taken it offline.
We certainly took our lumps from all sides about this online poll, and we learned from the criticisms and will aim to do better next time.
And George, if you must know, in another poll of 21,000 readers we conducted earlier this year, 40 percent of respondents said that over the past year they became "more certain that humans are changing climate"; 46 percent said their views were "unchanged" and only 14 percent were "more doubtful that human activity is affecting the climate."
Reading Curry's blog is very interesting, as her becoming a "heretic" has really roiled the debate - but unfortunately her credibility is severely compromised because she is associating with frauds like John Coleman and Anthony Watts.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:06:39pm |
re: #42 b_sharp
You do know where eggs come from, right?
Cloaca.
I'm an egg nut..How many raw eggs did Rocky drink in the movie at 5am?
5
count em baby
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:07:11pm |
re: #44 brookly red
I grant you special dispensation... let it be said not that I am with out mercy.
I think I'm going to build a pineapple gun. Kind of like a potato gun but bigger.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:07:11pm |
Dinner time at RWC HQ. A good 07 Chianti, dragonlady's hand made meatballs, salad & garlic bread... Choc pudding cake dessert with very good coffee.
BBL
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:07:35pm |
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:07:46pm |
re: #46 HoosierHoops
I'm an egg nut..How many raw eggs did Rocky drink in the movie at 5am?
5count em baby
and then he was TKOed by Sal Moenilla in the 3rd...
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:08:40pm |
re: #47 b_sharp
I think I'm going to build a pineapple gun. Kind of like a potato gun but bigger.
It must get boring up there...
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Decatur Deb Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:10:23pm |
re: #47 b_sharp
I think I'm going to build a pineapple gun. Kind of like a potato gun but bigger.
"You'll put your eye out, kid."
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:10:35pm |
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:10:58pm |
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:11:19pm |
re: #45 Talking Point Detective
And I found this at the Cato Institute website:
But, as a make-up call for calling attention to Curry, Scientific American has run a poll of its readers on climate change....SciAm probably expected a lot of people would agree with the key statement in their poll that the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is “an effective group of government representatives and other experts.”
Hardly. As of this morning, only 16% of the 6655 respondents agreed. 84%—that is not a typo—described the IPCC as “a corrupt organization, prone to groupthink, with a political agenda.”
The poll also asks “What should we do about climate change?” 69% say “nothing, we are powerless to stop it.” When asked about policy options, an astonishingly low 7% support cap-and-trade, which passed the U.S. House of Representatives in June, 2009, and cost approximately two dozen congressmen their seats.
The real killer is question “What is causing climate change?” For this one, multiple answers are allowed. 26% said greenhouse gases from human activity, 32% solar variation, and 78% “natural processes.” (In reality all three are causes of climate change.)
And finally, “How much would you be willing to pay to forestall the risk of catastrophic climate change?” 80% of the respondents said “nothing.”
Remember that this comes from what is hardly a random sample. Scientific American is a reliably statist publication and therefore appeals to a readership that is skewed to the left of the political center. This poll demonstrates that virtually everyone now acknowledges that the UN has corrupted climate science, that climate change is impossible to stop, and that futile attempts like cap-and-trade do nothing but waste money and burn political capital, things that Cato’s scholars have been saying for years.
And just think, there are libertarians all around the blogosphere for whom the Cato Institute is the go-to place for evidence to back their beliefs.
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compound idaho Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:11:43pm |
re: #52 b_sharp
Very. Too frakin' cold to do much.
Compound Jr. had high school baseball tryouts this weekend in the gym. Still a lot of snow on the ground. These poor kids will often head off for the first games of the season and still haven't taken a ground ball off of the grass.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:12:26pm |
Va Tech is beating Duke right now, barely but holding their own. Cool!
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:13:46pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:14:52pm |
re: #60 brookly red
If you make it to a Red State you could ask for asylum...
But I just escaped the asylum.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:16:46pm |
re: #50 brookly red
and then he was TKOed by Sal Moenilla in the 3rd...
In high school during off season I tried boxing once..
I figured I'd beat the crap out of some kid...
I lasted one round..My ego and face was crushed..I never boxed again...LOL
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:17:04pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
But I just escaped the asylum.
they said california is the place you ougtta be, so load up the truck & move to beverly...
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:17:50pm |
re: #62 HoosierHoops
In high school during off season I tried boxing once..
I figured I'd beat the crap out of some kid...
I lasted one round..My ego and face was crushed..I never boxed again...LOL
yet you throw so many jabs here?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:18:01pm |
re: #63 brookly red
they said california is the place you ougtta be, so load up the truck & move to beverly...
Hills that is...
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CuriousLurker Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:19:00pm |
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:19:06pm |
re: #56 Talking Point Detective
And I found this at the Cato Institute website:
And just think, there are libertarians all around the blogosphere for whom the Cato Institute is the go-to place for evidence to back their beliefs.
LVQ answered the 'How do we know humans are a principal cause of global warming' for me, as opposed to natural phenomena or a combination of factors.
He explained about the rate of change.
Natural phenomena or combinations of natural phenomena occur at a certain rate that can be measured.
Current global warming can be attributed primarily to human contribution because those contributions, when added up, point to accelerated warming. That isn't to say there might not be natural climatological phenomena involved, but even if there is, the change is accelerated by human activity.
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:21:07pm |
re: #68 researchok
LVQ answered the 'How do we know humans are a principal cause of global warming' for me, as opposed to natural phenomena or a combination of factors.
He explained about the rate of change.
Natural phenomena or combinations of natural phenomena occur at a certain rate that can be measured.
Current global warming can be attributed primarily to human contribution because those contributions, when added up, point to accelerated warming. That isn't to say there might not be natural climatological phenomena involved, but even if there is, the change is accelerated by human activity.
The ratio of carbon isotopes is also convincing.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:21:46pm |
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:22:01pm |
re: #69 b_sharp
The ratio of carbon isotopes is also convincing.
forget what I just said... stay in the cold.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:23:24pm |
re: #71 b_sharp
Crap! I just ran out of Scotch.
the resupply sleds should be there in about 6 weeks...
hold on!
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:24:58pm |
re: #71 b_sharp
Crap! I just ran out of Scotch.
Hit the bourbon. I think I'll make a drink right now.
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Interesting Times Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:25:29pm |
re: #68 researchok
You can also look at the alarming parallels between now and the Permian extinction that killed almost all life on Earth - back then, natural forces, i.e. volcanoes, were spewing toxic coal ash into the air. Now, the same toxic crap is being spewed by humans. Toxic crap is toxic crap. The difference is we have the power to stop it this time, but so far, we're not :(
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:25:30pm |
re: #69 b_sharp
The ratio of carbon isotopes is also convincing.
True, though my understanding of how isotopes react to change is limited (read: zero).
I never took issue with AGW, but I could not understand how we might know what are natural changes versus human influenced changes and how to measure those differences.
As soon as LVQ explained the measurable rates of change, the light bulb went on for me.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:27:19pm |
re: #77 publicityStunted
You can also look at the alarming parallels between now and the Permian extinction that killed almost all life on Earth - back then, natural forces, i.e. volcanoes, were spewing toxic coal ash into the air. Now, the same toxic crap is being spewed by humans. Toxic crap is toxic crap. The difference is we have the power to stop it this time, but so far, we're not :(
we can stop volcanoes? since when?
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:27:43pm |
re: #64 brookly red
yet you throw so many jabs here?
Silly boy..After over 28,000 posts I've only had 1 post deleted and it was about my Son's Marine platoon being deployed and Charles didn't want me to talk about where he was going...Charles has real class..I rarely jab people here without a soft toss...In fact you can trash me..It's ok..Trash a fellow lizard and I'll cut you like a knive..
I love the lizards
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:27:51pm |
re: #77 publicityStunted
You can also look at the alarming parallels between now and the Permian extinction that killed almost all life on Earth - back then, natural forces, i.e. volcanoes, were spewing toxic coal ash into the air. Now, the same toxic crap is being spewed by humans. Toxic crap is toxic crap. The difference is we have the power to stop it this time, but so far, we're not :(
Yup.
Have you been reading about ocean acidification? That just blew me away.
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:29:01pm |
re: #81 researchok
Yup.
Have you been reading about ocean acidification? That just blew me away.
Scares the crap out of me.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:29:18pm |
re: #80 HoosierHoops
Silly boy..After over 28,000 posts I've only had 1 post deleted and it was about my Son's Marine platoon being deployed and Charles didn't want me to talk about where he was going...Charles has real class..I rarely jab people here without a soft toss...In fact you can trash me..It's ok..Trash a fellow lizard and I'll cut you like a knive..
I love the lizards
awww I am still ticked over the suitecase nuke comment ;)
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:29:24pm |
re: #79 brookly red
we can stop volcanoes? since when?
Acme is selling volcano corks. Wile E Coyote told me about it.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:30:36pm |
re: #83 b_sharp
Scares the crap out of me.
I hear that.
In a lot of ways that is more disturbing than AGW because there isn't a whole lot to do to fix ocean acidification- at least nothing in the short term.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:31:32pm |
re: #81 researchok
Yup.
Have you been reading about ocean acidification? That just blew me away.
now that is fucked up & for real... and not high on anyones list cause, well we can't sell acid credits.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:31:57pm |
My volcano joke got a downding? Did I insult volcanoes or something?
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:32:33pm |
re: #86 researchok
I hear that.
In a lot of ways that is more disturbing than AGW because there isn't a whole lot to do to fix ocean acidification- at least nothing in the short term.
There's nothing we can do that will destroy the Earth and all life on it, but we can sure fuck it up for ourselves and the majority of the biosphere.
We screw it up and it will take millions of years for it to recover.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:32:34pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:33:09pm |
re: #87 researchok
It lives.
Barely. Although just thinking about the impending stupidity of my new neighbors has made me forget about my knee and neck pains. They already broke two windows with a soccer ball at 3 AM this morning.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:33:39pm |
re: #54 brookly red
Hint: move south.
Yeah, come down here. Enjoy the soothing pitter-pat of golfball-sized hail making your car look like it was massaged by a flock of ball peen hammers every spring. Enjoy tornado warnings every other day for 3 weeks that never never pan out, and just when you start to ignore them and stop feeling anxiety every time the siren goes off, a real tornado tears through a neighborhood a few blocks away.
Enjoy the 100+ degree temps from July through August, during which your electricity bill will go through the roof. Marvel at the amazingly frequent stories of infants left to bake to death inside locked cars, and of joggers and bicyclists who die of acute dehydration because they think carrying around a water bottle is for limp-wristed sissies. If you live along the Gulf coast, enjoy your annual hurricanes and floods. Enjoy not being able to buy homeowner's insurance for less than what it would cost to just replace your house and all your belongings out of pocket.
Enjoy the "Autumn", all 3 weeks of it, as the temps drop below 60 and people start breaking out the parkas and firewood. Enjoy the first freeze of the year, during which 0.5" of ice accumulation will shut down your entire city for at least a day, more likely two or three. This is because when moisture of any kind falls out of the sky, people lose all ability to drive (DFW drivers are notoriously insane year-round, it should be noted), and the unwritten rule of the road becomes, "when in doubt, close your eyes and floor it." Many people who own large 4WD vehicles (read: 75% of all drivers) are either completely ignorant of 6th-grade physics and the concept of frictional coefficient, or else are convinced that the mass of their vehicle somehow exempts them from Newton's laws.
But apart from that, yeah, the south is a great place to go if you don't like the weather where you are.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:33:49pm |
Jamie Oliver: Sarah Palin A 'Froot Loop' For Criticizing Michelle Obama
British celebrity chef Jamie Oliver called Sarah Palin a "Froot Loop" for criticizing the Obama administration's healthy eating initiatives, and said getting healthy foods to kids is a civil rights issue.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:34:16pm |
re: #89 NJDhockeyfan
My volcano joke got a downding? Did I insult volcanoes or something?
look at the source... what can I say?
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Interesting Times Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:34:22pm |
re: #90 b_sharp
There's nothing we can do that will destroy the Earth and all life on it, but we can sure fuck it up for ourselves and the majority of the biosphere.
We screw it up and it will take millions of years for it to recover.
It certainly took that long after Permian. And again, for those who missed it - volcanoes spewed the toxic crap during Permian. Coal-fired power plants are spewing the same crap NOW.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:34:31pm |
re: #91 Floral Giraffe
Working hard?
Tiny bit. Was just working on something a few minutes ago. I want work! Work! Money! I want to dig myself out of my hole and then find somewhere to live where I don't have to see or hear anyone if I don't feel like it. :)
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:35:07pm |
re: #92 Gus 802
Barely. Although just thinking about the impending stupidity of my new neighbors has made me forget about my knee and neck pains. They already broke two windows with a soccer ball at 3 AM this morning.
Not your windows, I hope.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:35:33pm |
re: #93 negativ
Yeah, come down here. Enjoy the soothing pitter-pat of golfball-sized hail making your car look like it was massaged by a flock of ball peen hammers every spring. Enjoy tornado warnings every other day for 3 weeks that never never pan out, and just when you start to ignore them and stop feeling anxiety every time the siren goes off, a real tornado tears through a neighborhood a few blocks away.
Enjoy the 100+ degree temps from July through August, during which your electricity bill will go through the roof. Marvel at the amazingly frequent stories of infants left to bake to death inside locked cars, and of joggers and bicyclists who die of acute dehydration because they think carrying around a water bottle is for limp-wristed sissies. If you live along the Gulf coast, enjoy your annual hurricanes and floods. Enjoy not being able to buy homeowner's insurance for less than what it would cost to just replace your house and all your belongings out of pocket.
Enjoy the "Autumn", all 3 weeks of it, as the temps drop below 60 and people start breaking out the parkas and firewood. Enjoy the first freeze of the year, during which 0.5" of ice accumulation will shut down your entire city for at least a day, more likely two or three. This is because when moisture of any kind falls out of the sky, people lose all ability to drive (DFW drivers are notoriously insane year-round, it should be noted), and the unwritten rule of the road becomes, "when in doubt, close your eyes and floor it." Many people who own large 4WD vehicles (read: 75% of all drivers) are either completely ignorant of 6th-grade physics and the concept of frictional coefficient, or else are convinced that the mass of their vehicle somehow exempts them from Newton's laws.
But apart from that, yeah, the south is a great place to go if you don't like the weather where you are.
Hint: move north... in fact swap w/B Sharp. see how easy that was :)
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:35:55pm |
re: #94 Killgore Trout
Jamie Oliver: Sarah Palin A 'Froot Loop' For Criticizing Michelle Obama
Hey KT. How are the Crackhead Clampett neighbors of yours doing?
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:36:34pm |
Evening Lizards. Bent, Twisted, Seriously Warped and potentiality cracked.
So what is new? Other than I am still a live?
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:36:38pm |
re: #96 publicityStunted
It certainly took that long after Permian. And again, for those who missed it - volcanoes spewed the toxic crap during Permian. Coal-fired power plants are spewing the same crap NOW.
We sure have livened up the party...
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:36:53pm |
re: #98 researchok
Not your windows, I hope.
Not mine. But the moron-dipshit hit my wall a couple of times.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:37:36pm |
re: #96 publicityStunted
It certainly took that long after Permian. And again, for those who missed it - volcanoes spewed the toxic crap during Permian. Coal-fired power plants are spewing the same crap NOW.
After eating at that Chinese buffet the other night I spewed quite a bit of toxic crap all night. Coal-fired power plants couldn't keep up that night.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:39:04pm |
re: #103 Gus 802
Not mine. But the moron-dipshit hit my wall a couple of times.
Here's a though.
Download an audio clip of a pump shotgun, burn it to a CD, looped to play the pump action every 20 minutes. Put the speakers near an open window.
Enjoy a good night's sleep.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:39:56pm |
re: #100 Gus 802
Hey KT. How are the Crackhead Clampett neighbors of yours doing?
Not too bad lately. It's cold so they stay inside and away from me. I's a few houses down so it's not too bad. I really feel for the people who live directly next door. The screaming and fighting never stops.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:41:41pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Not too bad lately. It's cold so they stay inside and away from me. I's a few houses down so it's not too bad. I really feel for the people who live directly next door. The screaming and fighting never stops.
maybe they should stop blogging?
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:41:41pm |
re: #104 NJDhockeyfan
After eating at that Chinese buffet the other night I spewed quite a bit of toxic crap all night. Coal-fired power plants couldn't keep up that night.
Oh yeah, you're ready for tea with the queen.
/
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:42:51pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Not too bad lately. It's cold so they stay inside and away from me. I's a few houses down so it's not too bad. I really feel for the people who live directly next door. The screaming and fighting never stops.
Awful. A few years ago I was reading through the website "Neighbors from Hell". I've never encountered such neighbors even though I'm complaining now. They sound like the ones I read about. Although when I was a kid we lived in this lowlife neighborhood for about 2 years. Some strange ones there.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:43:30pm |
AHI!
I'm a little late to the thread, decision made I'm sure.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:44:04pm |
re: #4 brookly red
fish is kinda like raw or seared... no in between, except for fried of course.
I happen to prefer char-broiled fish, myself.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:44:07pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
Awful. A few years ago I was reading through the website "Neighbors from Hell". I've never encountered such neighbors even though I'm complaining now. They sound like the ones I read about. Although when I was a kid we lived in this lowlife neighborhood for about 2 years. Some strange ones there.
I had neighbors like that once, before the accident.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:44:20pm |
re: #105 researchok
Here's a though.
Download an audio clip of a pump shotgun, burn it to a CD, looped to play the pump action every 20 minutes. Put the speakers near an open window.
Enjoy a good night's sleep.
They'd probably like it. I have something better. My landlady's cell phone number.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:45:27pm |
re: #113 Gus 802
They'd probably like it. I have something better. My landlady's cell phone number.
Good idea.
A couple of phone calls to her at 3:00 AM will have her come down hard on the fools.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:46:08pm |
re: #113 Gus 802
They'd probably like it. I have something better. My landlady's cell phone number.
On speed dial?
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:46:40pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:46:43pm |
re: #101 Bubblehead II
Evening Lizards. Bent, Twisted, Seriously Warped and potentiality cracked.
So what is new? Other than I am still a live?
Lizards. In refection (and a Gibs slap along my head), given my current state of mind, I have no business being online.
Nite all.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:47:21pm |
re: #115 researchok
Good idea.
A couple of phone calls to her at 3:00 AM will have her come down hard on the fools.
She was telling me about another unit she had to deal with at around the same time. Same deal. Drunkards being really loud and all over the place. This one is getting the letter on Monday I think.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:48:00pm |
re: #120 Gus 802
She was telling me about another unit she had to deal with at around the same time. Same deal. Drunkards being really loud and all over the place. This one is getting the letter on Monday I think.
I see.
So you live near the Governor's Mansion.
/
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:48:34pm |
re: #117 Floral Giraffe
On speed dial?
I typically memorize phone numbers. This one would be on redial for the time being since I talked to her twice today. We typically talk about stuff otherwise and smoke a cig or two from time to time.
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:49:30pm |
re: #112 brookly red
I had neighbors like that once, before the accident.
I'm sure a bit of plastic surgery will fix you right up.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:52:10pm |
re: #121 researchok
I see.
So you live near the Governor's Mansion.
/
That's funny. I had a friend that lived near the Governor's Mansion and right in that same are is this bar called Governor's Park. Same thing. When the bar would close all of the vermin would come out and you would hear the hooting and hollering. And when guys get drunk they suddenly think they're Hercules and everyone they run into must be slayed! I was at this other bar once and ran into one guy who (about 6'-8" tall) was hanging out outside. So my friend who is about 6'-8" asks him what he was doing out there and he said he was just waiting around to start a fight with someone. Maybe he was kidding I don't know. He didn't seem like the type.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:53:46pm |
Booze will turn passive introverts into raging maniacs sometimes. Size doesn't even matter and neither does education or physique.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:54:11pm |
re: #125 Gus 802
Booze will turn passive introverts into raging maniacs sometimes. Size doesn't even matter and neither does education or physique.
'Booze goes in, truth comes out'.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:55:29pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:55:37pm |
re: #125 Gus 802
Booze will turn passive introverts into raging maniacs sometimes. Size doesn't even matter and neither does education or physique.
True that. That's part of why I don't stay around if I think people are getting drunk.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:56:22pm |
re: #126 researchok
'Booze goes in, truth comes out'.
Maybe. But people's minds become very distorted. It's funny though because you'll always hear the young drinkers talking about "I don't want to become a mean drunk" all the time.
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b_sharp Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:57:17pm |
re: #129 Dark_Falcon
True that. That's part of why I don't stay around if I think people are getting drunk.
No worries here, I ran out of Scotch.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:58:26pm |
Bratwurst, I see you're online. If you need to go outside, I want to warn you to be careful. There's ice forming on the sidewalks where we are.
This safety message brought to you by the desire to be a good neighbor. We now return you to DF's regularly scheduled programming.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 7:58:58pm |
re: #124 Gus 802
I lived in a heavily bared area at one time. Every Saturday night between 2-3 there'd be a major crash at the nearest intersection. I could dial 911 in my sleep after a couple of months.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:00:14pm |
re: #129 Dark_Falcon
True that. That's part of why I don't stay around if I think people are getting drunk.
I never liked bars. The longer you stay in them the worse it gets. Right before closing time is the worst time of all. Then you get out and you're either drunk or tipsy yourself and you have to drive with cops all over the place? I tell you, almost 90 percent of the time I've seen people leave bars and if the cops actually stopped everyone that left the majority of them would get a DWI. But of course that never happens.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:00:22pm |
re: #130 Gus 802
Maybe. But people's minds become very distorted. It's funny though because you'll always hear the young drinkers talking about "I don't want to become a mean drunk" all the time.
That's a kind of projection.
The kids who say that are looking for an excuse to do just that (repressed behavior and all that). Then they can blame the booze.
Mean drunks have a lot more going on than blaming booze for mean behavior.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:00:22pm |
Duke just lost. No more number one for them right now.
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Digital Display Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:01:03pm |
VT beats #1 Duke..Green was almost the goat for missing 2 free throws
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:01:18pm |
re: #133 Floral Giraffe
I lived in a heavily bared area at one time. Every Saturday night between 2-3 there'd be a major crash at the nearest intersection. I could dial 911 in my sleep after a couple of months.
You need double paned windows.
/
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bratwurst Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:01:53pm |
re: #132 Dark_Falcon
Bratwurst, I see you're online. If you need to go outside, I want to warn you to be careful. There's ice forming on the sidewalks where we are.
This safety message brought to you by the desire to be a good neighbor. We now return you to DF's regularly scheduled programming.
Thanks for the heads up, but I am not going anywhere. This is only my second winter in Chicagoland, but I am officially sick of it.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:02:39pm |
re: #138 researchok
You need double paned windows.
/
Floral is too much the good samaritan to do that.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:03:34pm |
re: #139 bratwurst
Thanks for the heads up, but I am not going anywhere. This is only my second winter in Chicagoland, but I am officially sick of it.
Normally we don't get multiple ice storms. This just happens to be a bad winter for those.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:04:35pm |
U.N. Security Council slaps sanctions on Libya
UNITED NATIONS — The U.N. Security Council Saturday unanimously imposed travel bans and asset freezes on Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, members of his family and inner circle amid continuing attacks on anti-government protesters.The council imposed an asset freeze on Gadhafi, his four sons and one daughter and a travel ban on the whole family along with 10 other close associates. The council also backed an arms embargo.
The resolution adopted by the 15-nation body also called for the immediate referral of the deadly crackdown on demonstrators in Libya to the International Criminal Court in The Hague for investigation and possible prosecution of anyone responsible for killing civilians.
Boy, that UN is seriously tough. Mo is probably shaking right now after that can of whoopass was just opened up on him.
//
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:04:39pm |
More details are coming out about yesterday's refinery attack in Iraq:
Bomb attack kills four oil workers and shuts down Iraq's biggest refinery
MILITANTS attacked Iraq's largest oil refinery yesterday, killing four workers and detonating bombs that touched off a raging fire and shut down the plant in northern Iraq.
In the southern town of Samawa, a second refinery was shut down by fire but officials said initial reports indicated it was started by a technical failure rather than an attack.The militants planted explosives at a kerosene and benzene productionADVERTISEMENT
unit at the northern refinery in the town of Baiji, a former al-Qaeda stronghold 112 miles north of Baghdad.
"The refinery has completely stopped," local governor Ahmed al-Jubouri said.
"It's a big loss for the whole country. All Iraqi cities depend on its production."[...]
And more about the state of Iraq:
After Iraq's Day of Rage, a Crackdown on Intellectuals
Iraqi security forces detained about 300 people, including prominent journalists, artists and lawyers who took part in nationwide demonstrations Friday, in what some of them described as an operation to intimidate Baghdad intellectuals who hold sway over popular opinion.On Saturday, four journalists who had been released described being rounded up well after they had left a protest of thousands at Baghdad's Tahrir Square. They said they were handcuffed, blindfolded, beaten and threatened with execution by soldiers from an army intelligence unit. [...]
It's stories like these which makes it not unwarranted to be pessimistic about Iraq's future.
And, given Americans' desire to continue to make oil the key lynchpin in our economy and our way of life, those types of stories are sour indicators of our future, too.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:05:31pm |
re: #138 researchok
It was a REALLY cool 1920's Art Deco apartment. A very lovely building, with, an unfortunate owner, who didn't take care of it. VERY high style, streamline moderne.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:05:43pm |
re: #135 researchok
That's a kind of projection.
The kids who say that are looking for an excuse to do just that (repressed behavior and all that). Then they can blame the booze.
Mean drunks have a lot more going on than blaming booze for mean behavior.
A lot of times they're contemplating family history. My folks never drank. OK, if you consider some wine for Thanksgiving drinking. I once bought a bottle of whisky and my mom freaked out! I mean seriously freaked. I ended up pouring it down the drain. I didn't start drinking in earnest until I turned 30 and that lasted for a good 15 years. Never a beer guy though.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:08:03pm |
re: #142 NJDhockeyfan
U.N. Security Council slaps sanctions on Libya
Boy, that UN is seriously tough. Mo is probably shaking right now after that can of whoopass was just opened up on him.
//
It has some substance, at least. It's better than a strongly-worded letter.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:10:37pm |
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
It has some substance, at least. It's better than a strongly-worded letter.
Freezing money and travel bans? The Libyan genocidal monsters are probably laughing their asses off right now.
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:12:10pm |
re: #147 NJDhockeyfan
Ok, so what do you want the UN to do?
Remember, the UN has no standing military or police force.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:12:11pm |
re: #144 Floral Giraffe
It was a REALLY cool 1920's Art Deco apartment. A very lovely building, with, an unfortunate owner, who didn't take care of it. VERY high style, streamline moderne.
I'll bet the place is probably worth a small fortune by now.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:12:26pm |
re: #147 NJDhockeyfan
Freezing money and travel bans? The Libyan genocidal monsters are probably laughing their asses off right now.
Real action against Libya won't pass the Security Council, as Russia and China will not let it. No, if any outside action is to be taken, it will have to be without the UN. as usual.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:12:47pm |
re: #145 Gus 802
A lot of times they're contemplating family history. My folks never drank. OK, if you consider some wine for Thanksgiving drinking. I once bought a bottle of whisky and my mom freaked out! I mean seriously freaked. I ended up pouring it down the drain. I didn't start drinking in earnest until I turned 30 and that lasted for a good 15 years. Never a beer guy though.
Why did you start at 30? You had to know that wasn't a good idea.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:12:57pm |
And if you drink 1.5L of wine everyday that's 144.5 gallons a year and in ten years that 1,445 gallons.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:13:37pm |
re: #152 Gus 802
And if you drink 1.5L of wine everyday that's 144.5 gallons a year and in ten years that 1,445 gallons.
I guess a fifth is a smarter way to go.
//
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:14:38pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
Awful. A few years ago I was reading through the website "Neighbors from Hell". I've never encountered such neighbors even though I'm complaining now. They sound like the ones I read about. Although when I was a kid we lived in this lowlife neighborhood for about 2 years. Some strange ones there.
I had a neighbor from hell once. It really seemed as though she lived every moment of her life waiting for one of my dogs to bark, and then behaving as though it was the same thing as hosting a Black Sabbath concert on my driveway at 3:00am on a Tuesday.
She called the HOA, she called the police multiple times, and she sent certified letters threatening litigation. The problem is, my dogs weren't the droids she was looking for. Aside from the fact that my dogs weren't unattended outdoor barkers, she claimed dog noise incidents occurred on days when we were out of the state with our dogs in tow.
Thanks to her, a cop once showed up in the middle of the night when we were asleep, our dogs in the same room of course, and dented the shit out of our front door with his flashlight. The fact that our dogs barked at THAT was proof enough to him that she was in the right, and wrote us a citation that was promptly dismissed. I hope he has hemorrhoids.
Even weirder was the fact that EVERYONE in the surrounding area had dogs, and a few of them barked 24/7. I don't know whether or not she complained about everyone else. We had never spoken a word to her, so I don't know why she chose to focus in on us.
When we got divorced, my ex rented the house to a couple who had 4 beagles who were the loudest, noisiest mo-fos I've ever heard in my life. They barked ALL THE TIME. I very happily sent my ex a certified letter stating that I did not object to her renting out the house, with the stipulation that the renters must be allowed to keep their pets.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:14:52pm |
re: #143 freetoken
More details are coming out about yesterday's refinery attack in Iraq:
Bomb attack kills four oil workers and shuts down Iraq's biggest refinery
And more about the state of Iraq:
After Iraq's Day of Rage, a Crackdown on Intellectuals
It's stories like these which makes it not unwarranted to be pessimistic about Iraq's future.
And, given Americans' desire to continue to make oil the key lynchpin in our economy and our way of life, those types of stories are sour indicators of our future, too.
This story is a long way from ending.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:15:09pm |
re: #151 researchok
Why did you start at 30? You had to know that wasn't a good idea.
My ex-gf. We started going out and she turned me on to wine so to speak. Plus I had just started with the "be cool and get drunk you're from San Francisco" routine. Might have been when I was 28 or so. You know. Go to Vesuvio's wear a beret, smoke like a freight train, and think you're Jack Kerouac.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:15:17pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
Real action against Libya won't pass the Security Council, as Russia and China will not let it. No, if any outside action is to be taken, it will have to be without the UN. as usual.
Bingo. The UN remains a fucking joke. NATO needs to start by placing a no-fly zone over Libya.
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:15:41pm |
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:16:46pm |
re: #156 Gus 802
My ex-gf. We started going out and she turned me on to wine so to speak. Plus I had just started with the "be cool and get drunk you're from San Francisco" routine. Might have been when I was 28 or so. You know. Go to Vesuvio's wear a beret, smoke like a freight train, and think you're Jack Kerouac.
Got it. That I can understand.
Please tell me you ditched the beret.
Please./
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:17:03pm |
re: #158 freetoken
If, indeed, it even has an ending.
There is no ending with any country's history, unless it vanishes.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:18:02pm |
re: #154 negativ
I had some weirdo neighbors once when I lived in an apartment with balsa wood floors. So, as usual they're talking for over 12 hours and one morning I just stomped the floor with my foot. They called the cops. The way the cops showed up apparently they thought I keeled over and died.
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compound idaho Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:18:08pm |
re: #148 freetoken
Ok, so what do you want the UN to do?
Remember, the UN has no standing military or police force.
Neither does NATO for that matter. NATO is the US and UK with a little help from our friends.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:18:09pm |
re: #156 Gus 802
My ex-gf. We started going out and she turned me on to wine so to speak. Plus I had just started with the "be cool and get drunk you're from San Francisco" routine. Might have been when I was 28 or so. You know. Go to Vesuvio's wear a beret, smoke like a freight train, and think you're Jack Kerouac.
San Francisco. In all of America you will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
/Obi-wan Kenobi, if he were a wingnut
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:18:16pm |
re: #158 freetoken
If, indeed, it even has an ending.
I'm somewhat optimistic.
Middle East demographics favor the young. That bodes well for change.
Maybe I'm projecting/hoping.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:18:59pm |
re: #157 NJDhockeyfan
Bingo. The UN remains a fucking joke. NATO needs to start by placing a no-fly zone over Libya.
Quite Concur.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:19:20pm |
re: #149 researchok
I'll bet the place is probably worth a small fortune by now.
I doubt it. The current owner does no repairs, unless forced to by the city. I moved after the roof "leaked". The city wrote 228 building code violations that had to be fixed, before they would certify occupancy. Lovely building, great style & bones, HORRIBLE owner.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:19:34pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
San Francisco. In all of America you will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
/Obi-wan Kenobi, if he were a wingnut
Party, party, party. Damn. I never saw so many shit faced people then in North Beach and especially at the Grant & Green Saloon. Whew. Scary stuff.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:20:15pm |
re: #166 Floral Giraffe
I doubt it. The current owner does no repairs, unless forced to by the city. I moved after the roof "leaked". The city wrote 228 building code violations that had to be fixed, before they would certify occupancy. Lovely building, great style & bones, HORRIBLE owner.
Understood, Good you moved.
'Dry' has a certain appeal.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:20:19pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:21:03pm |
Had this elderly neighbor that used to drink a liter of vodka everyday. One day it was raining and there she was standing up in the middle of the court yard taking a pee. I don't think the slugs liked that.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:21:36pm |
re: #170 Gus 802
Had this elderly neighbor that used to drink a liter of vodka everyday. One day it was raining and there she was standing up in the middle of the court yard taking a pee. I don't think the slugs liked that.
Hard to believe
//
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:22:14pm |
re: #169 NJDhockeyfan
The UN remains irrelevant as it always has.
It has some uses. It can supervise the elections after Gaddafi gets the boot, and help distribute aid. What it isn't good for is actually getting rid of a tyrant.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:22:15pm |
re: #168 researchok
Plus, when I called him to tell him about the ankle deep water in the living room ( which had hardwood floors) he asked "if I was a good swimmer"?
That's when I called the fire department & asked if it was OK that water was running down an electric wire & dripping on to the floor.
Heh. I saw a building inspector on a Sunday!
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:22:22pm |
re: #170 Gus 802
Had this elderly neighbor that used to drink a liter of vodka everyday. One day it was raining and there she was standing up in the middle of the court yard taking a pee. I don't think the slugs liked that.
Same place this other drunk/druggie got into this massive fight with his ex and the next day I saw this wood bench sticking out their window.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:23:16pm |
re: #173 Floral Giraffe
Plus, when I called him to tell him about the ankle deep water in the living room ( which had hardwood floors) he asked "if I was a good swimmer"?
That's when I called the fire department & asked if it was OK that water was running down an electric wire & dripping on to the floor.
Heh. I saw a building inspector on a Sunday!
Good grief.
Your own personal tsunami
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:23:38pm |
re: #170 Gus 802
LOL!
I went to work one morning, different apartment, and one of the neighbors & his girl had a gallon of vodka & were dancing on the front lawn.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:24:13pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
Same place this other drunk/druggie got into this massive fight with his ex and the next day I saw this wood bench sticking out their window.
You need to write a book.
Seriously.
If you do, I want Oprah tickets when she has you on.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:24:38pm |
re: #173 Floral Giraffe
Plus, when I called him to tell him about the ankle deep water in the living room ( which had hardwood floors) he asked "if I was a good swimmer"?
That's when I called the fire department & asked if it was OK that water was running down an electric wire & dripping on to the floor.
Heh. I saw a building inspector on a Sunday!
Moral of the story: Try to screw over Floral and you'll get the hooves. ;)
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:25:36pm |
re: #176 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
I went to work one morning, different apartment, and one of the neighbors & his girl had a gallon of vodka & were dancing on the front lawn.
Well, at least that seems pleasant. I tell ya' though you keep that up and sooner or later you might get kidney failure, cirrhosis, and all sorts of other wonderful things happening to your body.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:26:18pm |
re: #172 Dark_Falcon
It has some uses. It can supervise the elections after Gaddafi gets the boot, and help distribute aid. What it isn't good for is actually getting rid of a tyrant.
Tyrants get seats on UN Human Rights commissions.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:26:23pm |
re: #177 researchok
You need to write a book.
Seriously.
If you do, I want Oprah tickets when she has you on.
I've heard worse. Like the ones where dad got drunk and punched them in the face. Frequently.
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:27:55pm |
re: #176 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
I went to work one morning, different apartment, and one of the neighbors & his girl had a gallon of vodka & were dancing on the front lawn.
I live in Dullsville, I guess.
No public drinking, nudity or dancing.
On the other hand, I do have a neighbor who professes to be a witch, has a whole bunch of candles in her windows and wears Deepak Chopra type glasses.
Her house smell like curry and incense.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:28:36pm |
re: #156 Gus 802
My ex-gf. We started going out and she turned me on to wine so to speak. Plus I had just started with the "be cool and get drunk you're from San Francisco" routine. Might have been when I was 28 or so. You know. Go to Vesuvio's wear a beret, smoke like a freight train, and think you're Jack Kerouac.
A dead guy is mocking you
(not only you)
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:28:54pm |
re: #182 Gus 802
I've heard worse. Like the ones where dad got drunk and punched them in the face. Frequently.
That's cause enough to drink
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:29:24pm |
Protest Against Airline Official
A group of about 40 Libyans claimed that a high ranking official from Afriqiyah Airways who left Malta yesterday should be arrested because he has been making arrangements for mercenaries to be flown to Libya from sub-Saharan Africa.The Libyans staged a protest outside the Corinthia San Ġorġ in St Julian’s at about 1pm yesterday, claiming that Sabri El Shadli, chairman of Afriqiyah Airways, was at the hotel. They claimed he is a criminal, because he has been helping mercenaries to be flown in to Libya “to kill fellow Libyans”.
Mr El Shadli was escorted to the airport, where he was seen alone in a police car. He was due to board a plane for Dubai.
He was escorted through the ‘Bulky Luggage’ area, much to the anger of protesters who barged through, saying he is a terrorist and must be stopped. It is thought that he arrived in Malta on Wednesday.
Police at the airport tried calming down the Libyan men, one of whom shouted: “He killed my father (“qatel lil missieri”).
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polypam Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:35:22pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
I'm having newbie angst that I broke the thread.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:35:29pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:35:50pm |
re: #189 polypam
I'm having newbie angst that I broke the thread.
Don't worry. Happens from time to time.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:37:18pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
And a sudden hush fell over the room.
Everyone is digging out their Charles Bukowski stuff at the moment.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:37:43pm |
re: #189 polypam
I'm having newbie angst that I broke the thread.
You don't have to be a newbie for that.
Welcome btw :)
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researchok Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:38:19pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:38:52pm |
re: #189 polypam
I'm having newbie angst that I broke the thread.
Don't! It just happens sometimes.
Welcome, you're not exactly a hatchling, but welcome!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:39:55pm |
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polypam Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:40:16pm |
re: #196 Floral Giraffe
Thank you! It's a nice place to be on a Saturday after a long week.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:40:32pm |
re: #189 polypam
I'm having newbie angst that I broke the thread.
polypam
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Registered since: Feb 11, 2011 at 5:06 pm
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An official sweet 16 Lizard!
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:41:07pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:41:41pm |
re: #201 Gus 802
If you have to explain the joke....
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:44:24pm |
You ever try and replace a finely roasted espresso roast cup of coffee with an energy drink? Doesn't work. I need the beans man!
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prairiefire Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:45:17pm |
The Oscar nominated, animated short films are available for sale on iTunes. I just bought "The Lost Thing':[Link: www.thelostthing.com...]
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:45:51pm |
re: #202 NJDhockeyfan
I'm a dick.
But you said just a couple of days ago you were your own asshole. Are you, like, a big cloaca or something? Or are you your own asshole, but someone else's dick? And if so, does that make you a little bit gay?
I'm so confused.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:45:57pm |
Mo gives the foreign media a tour of Tripoli to show them how great things are but it doesn't quite work out like he wanted it to...
Long Bread Lines and Barricades in Libya’s Capital
TRIPOLI, Libya — A bold play by Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to prove that he was firmly in control of Libya appeared to backfire Saturday, as foreign journalists he invited to the capital discovered blocks of the city in open defiance of his authority.
Witnesses described snipers and antiaircraft guns firing at unarmed civilians. Many said security forces had been removing the dead and wounded from streets and hospitals, apparently in an effort to hide the mounting toll.
But when government-picked drivers escorted journalists on tours of the city on Saturday morning, the extent of the unrest was unmistakable. Workers were still hastily painting over graffiti calling Colonel Qaddafi a “bloodsucker” and demanding his ouster.
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Jadespring Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:47:04pm |
re: #207 Gus 802
You ever try and replace a finely roasted espresso roast cup of coffee with an energy drink? Doesn't work. I need the beans man!
I had to supervise and overnight LAN party once. They brought several cases of energy drinks. I had a couple and the buzz made me feeling like puking.
I prefer beans as well.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:47:11pm |
re: #209 Renaissance_Man
But you said just a couple of days ago you were your own asshole. Are you, like, a big cloaca or something? Or are you your own asshole, but someone else's dick? And if so, does that make you a little bit gay?
I'm so confused.
Some days I'm a dick and some days I'm an asshole. Today I'm a dick.
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polypam Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:47:56pm |
re: #210 NJDhockeyfan
Qaddafi is such a psycho. He probably convinced himself that the journalists would only see what he wanted them to see, even if it was right in front of them.
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Lidane Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:48:00pm |
Huzzah! I think I've finally found my business card design. Maybe. I'm going to give it a day. If I'm still sold on them tomorrow, I'll order a set.
At least I'm not freaking out over finding a design anymore. It's clean and simple, gives a nod to my tech geek side, and doesn't make me look girlie, emo, colorblind, or like I'm about to design the floral arrangements at your wedding. That's good enough for now. :D
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:49:25pm |
re: #211 Jadespring
I had to supervise and overnight LAN party once. They brought several cases of energy drinks. I had a couple and the buzz made me feeling like puking.
I prefer beans as well.
Yep. Energy drinks are just a middle man. They're using caffeine for the boost anyway. Why mix it up with other junk. Sugars will make you hit the wall once that buzz is through while caffeine is processed more efficiently. It has to be a shiny black bean and to that end I always prefer the espresso roasts.
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polypam Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:49:52pm |
re: #211 Jadespring
My karate instructor ended up in the ER with an irregular heartbeat after drinking an energy drink once. It was scary-he's in great shape but it really hit him.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:50:06pm |
Sandmonkey retorts.....
Et tu, Pamela? We have known each other for , what, 5 years now, and u believe some bullshit someone posts on the web without bothering to even e-mail me about it first? You couldn't verify before you did that? I mean, this Bary Rubin and whomever else that don't even know me can make their own conclusions, but you? For real? I would think you would be the first to call them on this nonsense, and instead you jumped on the bandwagon. And to think I have always defended you.
Nevermind that I didn't call for those things, but I said that Israel should expect them to happen and should place them into context. Nevermind that I wrote them to assure Israelis that there won't be a war ( we don't want one and the military will never allow one), but that those 3 things would have to happen due to the appeasement of the general population in order to eliminate any argument that could be used to attack Israel ( siege on ghaza, they steal our Gas, the israelis are smuggling shit though our border and funding and arming the bedouins, etc..). Nevermind that my opposition to the Amr Moussa candidacy is primarily due to my beliefe that the next 6 years should be focused on rebuilding egypt and not grandstanding with Israel. Nevermind that politically speaking, Israel, like any other government in the world, would have to play politics and create good relations with the newly formed egyptian government, and therefore some acts of good will, especially after 35 years of peace would be warranted. But no, I forgot, you guys are twitchy and paranoid. You see Qaradawy giving a speech in Tahrir and you immediately think "Khomeini, Iran, Islamic jihad, wahhhhhh" without asking urself who brought him to speak (the military, part of the old regime) and if the purpose is to scare the living crap out of every single one of you for this specific purpose: to get the freedom-loving people of the american right turn against the Tahrir protesters, who actually embody those ideals you claim to defend. And you guys fell for it, because, well, my name is Mahmoud, so I must be aligned to the Islamic caliphate or some shit. God, I wish you would stop listening to Glenn Beck. Last I checked he never even came here, so he really doesn't know what he is talking about.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:50:46pm |
cont.....
Nevermind that every single journalist I met there, including the FOX NEWS team, agreed that this isn't anywhere controlled or promoted by the Muslim Brotherhood (they are maybe, 20%, and they never participated on the 25th or the 28th, and only showed up afterwards), and that this view that they are the ones intiating and controlling the uprising is totally false. Nevermind that being pushed to do this by the US and Israel and that we are all american zionist agents is exactly what the pro-Mubarak (your dear friend of Israel who promoted anti-Israeli sentiment amongst the egyptian people for 30 years intentionally to distract them from his rule) people have accused us of being from the beginning. Nevermind that when the Mubarak police beat me up and arrested me, this was what they accused us of: that we are foreign funded, of being zionist agents. Ignore all of this, throw it all away, alongside with our friendship under the Bus why don't you?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:50:55pm |
re: #213 polypam
Qaddafi is such a psycho. He probably convinced himself that the journalists would only see what he wanted them to see, even if it was right in front of them.
He's reaching his inner Baghdad Bob.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:51:12pm |
cont....
am not here to defend myself. This isn't the first time I get slandered and it won't be the last. I am here to talk to you, Pamela. And I am doing it on this public forum because you didn't give me the courtesy of talking to me in a private forum first, before repeating those lies about me or even getting a clarification before hand. Instead we have this, the inevitable conclusion to fear mixed with irrationality and paranoia, with complete disregard to history and precedent, let alone personal knowledge of me.
As for everyone on your comments section, well, I could give them a classic sandmonkey insult, but honestly? Not worth my time.
Have a nice life!
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:51:51pm |
re: #220 Killgore Trout
cont...
am not here to defend myself. This isn't the first time I get slandered and it won't be the last. I am here to talk to you, Pamela. And I am doing it on this public forum because you didn't give me the courtesy of talking to me in a private forum first, before repeating those lies about me or even getting a clarification before hand. Instead we have this, the inevitable conclusion to fear mixed with irrationality and paranoia, with complete disregard to history and precedent, let alone personal knowledge of me.As for everyone on your comments section, well, I could give them a classic sandmonkey insult, but honestly? Not worth my time.
Have a nice life!
Awesome!
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Lidane Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:52:47pm |
re: #219 NJDhockeyfan
He's reaching his inner Baghdad Bob.
Except that Baghdad Bob had more self-awareness.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:53:17pm |
re: #210 NJDhockeyfan
Mo gives the foreign media a tour of Tripoli to show them how great things are but it doesn't quite work out like he wanted it to...
Sounds like they're heading towards civil war and then it's anyone's guess. Hopefully, they'll have enough military defectors, otherwise the people can't do anything and it will end dreadfully if NATO doesn't step in. I also agree with the no-fly zone.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:53:48pm |
re: #221 Gus 802
Very nice. What is he doing up at this hour? It's well before dawn in Egypt.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:54:35pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
Very nice. What is he doing up at this hour? It's well before dawn in Egypt.
It's almost 7 AM there.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:56:22pm |
re: #216 polypam
That almost happened to me. The only weirdness I ever felt in my heart was after I drank one of the energy shot drinks. Red bull is no problem at all.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:58:06pm |
# Tanks block all entrances to #Tripoli #Libya. half a minute ago via web# @alexwdc Joining rallies I think is the best way. Thank you so much for your support :) 9 minutes ago via web in reply to alexwdc
# @Pat19eighty4 They know, despite #Libyan gov jamming AlJazeera, other networks have donated their channels 11 minutes ago via web in reply to Pat19eighty4
# People from around #Libya are marching to #Tripoli - government has set up roadblocks, machine gun nests. Hope this doesnt get bloody 19 minutes ago via web
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:58:33pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
I hate to say it, but Sandmonkey should have known she'd sell him down the river at any given moment. And this is a good "given moment" for her.
Well, live and learn dude.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 8:59:46pm |
Hey! I gave him the heads up. Actually. I wouldn't have known if it wasn't for KT. It was a group effort. ;)
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:00:20pm |
re: #220 Killgore Trout
I'd like to weave a net-neutrality argument into this in a graceful way, but I'm not articulate enough to do so. Paging a random 15 year-old EFF contributor.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:01:43pm |
re: #229 Gus 802
Hey! I gave him the heads up. Actually. I wouldn't have known if it wasn't for KT. It was a group effort. ;)
Oh sorry, I must have missed it! I had to go back to her page to see what it was about.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:04:47pm |
re: #227 NJDhockeyfan
It looks like tomorrow is going to be the Battle of Tripoli. Prayers for the protseters for their safety and victory. I'll probably stay up awhile to watch.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:06:50pm |
re: #225 Gus 802
It's almost 7 AM there.
....on a Sunday morning. Why isn't he in church? OMG! Islamification!
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:09:11pm |
re: #231 marjoriemoon
Oh sorry, I must have missed it! I had to go back to her page to see what it was about.
Starts with Barry Rubin and then leads to Daniel Greenfield and eventually Pam Geller. They're basically accusing him of "curveball" with Rubin being the most doubtful. The rest of the 101st Claiborne contingent is accusing him of that and Tayiya or worse. Basically because he's expressing doubt about the strength of the Muslim Brotherhood and its influence in the current situation in Egypt as am I. So, Killgore posted about Geller's rant and I then Tweeted Sandmonkey about it telling him that Geller "threw him under the bus".
More or less.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:10:17pm |
re: #228 marjoriemoon
I hate to say it, but Sandmonkey should have known she'd sell him down the river at any given moment. And this is a good "given moment" for her.
Well, live and learn dude.
Well, he's been occupied with more important things and hasn't been blogging much the past few years. He's now finding out what the American right has become since the election. I think it's nice that he mentioned Glenn Beck and Fox News. Republicans weren't very popular in the region already and the problem has only grown worse.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:10:54pm |
re: #232 ProLifeLiberal
Considering the events, this piece of music seems fitting. Unfortunately, this copy is inferior to the one on the Soundtrack.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:11:37pm |
re: #234 Gus 802
Starts with Barry Rubin and then leads to Daniel Greenfield and eventually Pam Geller. They're basically accusing him of "curveball" with Rubin being the most doubtful. The rest of the 101st Claiborne contingent is accusing him of that and Tayiya or worse. Basically because he's expressing doubt about the strength of the Muslim Brotherhood and its influence in the current situation in Egypt as am I. So, Killgore posted about Geller's rant and I then Tweeted Sandmonkey about it telling him that Geller "threw him under the bus".
More or less.
Cool beans. He should know who his friends are and who they aren't.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:12:40pm |
Because, sometimes you just need baby critters to help you feel happy!
[Link: www.zooborns.com...]
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:13:14pm |
re: #237 marjoriemoon
Cool beans. He should know who his friends are and who they aren't.
Time for a song about Pam Geller.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:16:25pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:17:43pm |
Russia to sell Syria cruise missiles
Israel furious at completion of deal, fearing advanced missiles will fall into Hezbollah's handsRussia vowed Saturday to fulfil its contract to supply Syria with cruise missiles despite the turmoil shaking the Arab world and Israel's furious condemnation of the deal.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:17:48pm |
LOL!
Cue bondage visions!
Porcupine = porcupette
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:18:12pm |
re: #240 Floral Giraffe
Bats have pups. I never would have guessed.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:20:41pm |
I just took another look at all the comments on the sandmonkey thread. That has to be a hell of a thing for him to see. Ugly accusation of him following the Quran's orders to kill Jews and lie to infidels. Someone is even speculating that he's paid by the MB to create a facade of moderation.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:22:09pm |
re: #242 Floral Giraffe
Who is our most recent hatchling? Uh... codling, hake, sprag, sprat?
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:23:30pm |
re: #245 Rightwingconspirator
LOL! I love horned toads. Kept many as pets, as a child.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:24:08pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:26:14pm |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
I just took another look at all the comments on the sandmonkey thread. That has to be a hell of a thing for him to see. Ugly accusation of him following the Quran's orders to kill Jews and lie to infidels. Someone is even speculating that he's paid by the MB to create a facade of moderation.
Same old reactionary idiocy from the mentally handicapped morons. Greenfield and Geller are evil people and Rubin gets the runner up spot. Same crap like Gaffney and Geller pulled at CPAC on Norquist a couple of weeks ago. There's something wrong with them. I don't even agree with most of what Norquist stands for but I can spot bullshit when I see it. Now they're pulling it on Sandmonkey.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:26:22pm |
re: #247 Floral Giraffe
I did too. They were once natural to the chalk hills area of the San Fernando valley. Them and the blue belly lizards.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:28:20pm |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
I just took another look at all the comments on the sandmonkey thread. That has to be a hell of a thing for him to see. Ugly accusation of him following the Quran's orders to kill Jews and lie to infidels. Someone is even speculating that he's paid by the MB to create a facade of moderation.
I like how all these armchair warriors are so quick to caste dispersions on him in the situation he's been in, but the truth is, they don't trust Muslims. They're haters and I don't know how any Muslim can be friends with them.
I'm trying to think of a Jewish analogy, but I can't. lol
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:37:14pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:38:02pm |
re: #256 marjoriemoon
I like when it comes time to attack the naughty box.
Maru wins!
Maru is probably the most famous cat ever to live. Maybe even more famous then Puss 'N Boots. :)
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:38:40pm |
re: #255 Gus 802
For Killgore...
入れない箱と&# 12397;こ。-The box which Maru can't enter
[Video]
lol. Good one.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:39:02pm |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:40:07pm |
Both Pam and Barry Rubin have responded. The implosion continues.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:41:21pm |
re: #259 negativ
BLASPHEMY
[Video]
Awesome. My mom had these ceramic frogs and brother's friend would always stack 'em up like that.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:46:50pm |
re: #261 Gus 802
Awesome. My mom had these ceramic frogs and brother's friend would always stack 'em up like that.
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Kronocide Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:47:06pm |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
I just took another look at all the comments on the sandmonkey thread. That has to be a hell of a thing for him to see. Ugly accusation of him following the Quran's orders to kill Jews and lie to infidels. Someone is even speculating that he's paid by the MB to create a facade of moderation.
I just caught up on all this. Wow. Utterly depraved morons.
History repeats itself.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:48:44pm |
re: #260 Killgore Trout
Both Pam and Barry Rubin have responded. The implosion continues.
Clusterfuck. I typically ignore the Rubin links we see from time to time here. That man has a serious case of ODS. Here's an idea for Rubin. Maybe he should keep his trap shut for a couple of days and think instead of reacting every single day.
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Kronocide Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:49:07pm |
re: #260 Killgore Trout
Both Pam and Barry Rubin have responded. The implosion continues.
Here response was serious strawman-age.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:49:15pm |
I remember seeing someone putting up a picture chart comparing the history of George Soros and the Koch brothers somewhat recently. Could someone please post it again, I want to save it, and send it to my Grandfather, who needs to be convinced that Gov. Walker is a POS.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:51:08pm |
re: #264 Gus 802
I have occasionally wondered if that poster (If he posts) would ever link to anything but the Rubin Report.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:51:26pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:52:22pm |
re: #266 ProLifeLiberal
I remember seeing someone putting up a picture chart comparing the history of George Soros and the Koch brothers somewhat recently. Could someone please post it again, I want to save it, and send it to my Grandfather, who needs to be convinced that Gov. Walker is a POS.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: other98.com...]
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jaunte Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:52:44pm |
Protesters out in force nationwide to oppose Wisconsin's anti-union bill
Joel DeSpain, spokesman for the Madison Police Department, said the rally — in steadily falling snow — drew between 70,000 and 100,000 and may have been the largest protest in Madison since the Vietnam War.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:53:02pm |
Ramy Yaacoub said...
As a Coptic Christian, Pro-Bush Conservative, Egyptian, who is a friend of the incredible Sand Monkey, I sincerely think that all the uninformed posts made by some of the folks who read this blog are meek in substance. If you truly understood the dynamics of the local socio-political scene in Cairo, you would not be making remarks as such. In fact, it is quite disturbing that political commentators on the far and extreme right cannot distinguish the difference between friend and foe. It is a damn shame that we stick our necks out in the most hostile environments in the world to defend secular democracy, the freedom of speech and many other core fibers of true American values, and folks like you find the time in to smear unfounded political rhetoric on people like Sand Monkey. Shame on you.
As I pointed out earlier Sandmonkey isn't the only one waking up to the new American right. Moderates in the region saw a whole new ugly side to who they thought were allies.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:53:40pm |
re: #269 Gus 802
Thank you very much. It's being saved right now.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:55:16pm |
Too funny...
David Koch Booed at NY Christmas Ballet Performance
David Koch, one of the richest men in America and owner of the largest private energy company in the United States took to the stage over the Christmas holiday to receive praise for his $2.5 million sponsorship of the American Ballet Theatre's production of the Nutcracker... and a strange thing happened.
The oil tycoon was booed...
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austin_blue Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:56:16pm |
Charlie the Tuna says, "Eat the shit out of that dolphin fish, it's not very good as sushi."
But then, Charlie is biased. I say go for the seared ahi. A little wasabi, a little ponzu, heaven!
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:59:14pm |
re: #269 Gus 802
I'm hooked on that kitty site now, Gus. It's all your fault :)
Birds make the best pets. We've had parrots, but this little guy is awesome. They should spend more time with him and he'd be able to talk clearer. I think I hear barking and meowing there too!
For folks who don't know, birds do lick (kiss) with their tongues. They're like tiny rubber balls, not particularly wet, but soft.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Feb 26, 2011 9:59:44pm |
re: #273 Gus 802
Ha, perhaps the bastard shouldn't be trying to undermine the 20th century by trying to return us the Gilded Age. Hope he felt real miserable after that.
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austin_blue Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:00:11pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:01:55pm |
re: #275 marjoriemoon
I'm hooked on that kitty site now, Gus. It's all your fault :)
[Video]Birds make the best pets. We've had parrots, but this little guy is awesome. They should spend more time with him and he'd be able to talk clearer. I think I hear barking and meowing there too!For folks who don't know, birds do lick (kiss) with their tongues. They're like tiny rubber balls, not particularly wet, but soft.
Back in the 80s I was an office manager/drafter for a surveyor I knew. He had a parakeet that just loved my head. It would never fail he'd release Mikey and he would inevitably land on my head. I think it was the perm. It was the 80s you know.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:02:51pm |
re: #266 ProLifeLiberal
I remember seeing someone putting up a picture chart comparing the history of George Soros and the Koch brothers somewhat recently. Could someone please post it again, I want to save it, and send it to my Grandfather, who needs to be convinced that Gov. Walker is a POS.
I'll trade you for a unicorn hair, a dragon scale, and/or Cameron Philips.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:02:58pm |
re: #278 Gus 802
Oh, and he would nibble my ears too. Funny. That bird liked me for some reason. I was non-smoker back then.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:05:19pm |
re: #275 marjoriemoon
I'm hooked on that kitty site now, Gus. It's all your fault :)
[Video]Birds make the best pets. We've had parrots, but this little guy is awesome. They should spend more time with him and he'd be able to talk clearer. I think I hear barking and meowing there too!
For folks who don't know, birds do lick (kiss) with their tongues. They're like tiny rubber balls, not particularly wet, but soft.
If you have a parrot and you don't teach it to say, "Help, they've turned me into a parrot!", you're just wasting everyone's time.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:07:29pm |
Biology, you so crazy!
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:10:05pm |
She is tempting me....
[Link: www.adoptapet.com...]
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:11:55pm |
re: #281 negativ
If you have a parrot and you don't teach it to say, "Help, they've turned me into a parrot!", you're just wasting everyone's time.
hehe We had a monk parrot, quaker, green parrot. She loved to whistle the Andy Griffith theme song and had various phrases, but singing was her favorite thing.
I got her from a neighbor who had a number of parrots. The smartest, Fatz, said, "Where's Elvis?" and "Give me a Beer." When he got to squacking, my friend would cover the cage and tell him, "You're going to the bathroom!" and he put him in there until he calmed down. Fatz got on to him him quick and would say, "Not the badroom! Not the badroom!"
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Targetpractice Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:12:19pm |
re: #281 negativ
If you have a parrot and you don't teach it to say, "Help, they've turned me into a parrot!", you're just wasting everyone's time.
"She turned me into a newt!"
/
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austin_blue Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:13:22pm |
re: #281 negativ
If you have a parrot and you don't teach it to say, "Help, they've turned me into a parrot!", you're just wasting everyone's time.
African Grays are the best talkers, but Hyacinthine Macaws have got to be the smartest birds. And they are HUGE. A friend had one when I was living up in Northern Michigan when I was flying jets and it could tell you the difference between an apple, an orange and endless other fruits. The bird had a vocabulary of around 100 words.
Amazing.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:16:03pm |
Angelo Mozilo, the former chief executive of Countrywide Financial. Prosecutors have found it tough to build cases against executives whose companies helped kindle the financial crisis.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:16:32pm |
re: #286 austin_blue
Neighbor had a hyacinth, and a scarlet.
AWESOME birds.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:16:49pm |
Biggest Fish Face Little Risk of Being Caught
By JOE NOCERA
Late last week, word leaked out that Mr. Mozilo, who had co-founded Countrywide Financial in 1969 — and, for nearly 40 years, presided over its astonishing rise and its equally astonishing fall — would not be prosecuted by the Justice Department. Not for insider trading. Not for failing to disclose to investors his private worries about subprime loans. Not for helping to create a culture at Countrywide in which mortgage originators were rewarded for pushing fraudulent loans on borrowers.
In its article about the Justice Department’s decision, The Los Angeles Times said prosecutors had concluded that Mr. Mozilo’s actions “did not amount to criminal wrongdoing.”
Just months earlier, the Justice Department concluded that Joe Cassano shouldn’t take the fall for the financial crisis either. Mr. Cassano, you’ll recall, is the former head of the financial products unit of the American International Group, a man whose enthusiasm for credit-default swaps led, pretty directly, to the need for a huge government bailout of A.I.G. There was a time when it appeared that there was no way the government would let Mr. Cassano walk. But it did...
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:16:55pm |
re: #286 austin_blue
Apparently, Andrew Jackson had a pet parrot (named Poll) he taught swear words. At Jackson's viewing (after his death) they had to remove the parrot from his location for being a disruption.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:18:10pm |
re: #283 Floral Giraffe
She is tempting me...
[Link: www.adoptapet.com...]
That looks like the sort of cat that would pick a corner far away from you, sleep in it all day, and puke up a hairball for you on special occasions.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:18:37pm |
re: #286 austin_blue
African Grays are the best talkers, but Hyacinthine Macaws have got to be the smartest birds. And they are HUGE. A friend had one when I was living up in Northern Michigan when I was flying jets and it could tell you the difference between an apple, an orange and endless other fruits. The bird had a vocabulary of around 100 words.
Amazing.
You might enjoy reading about Alex, the Parrot.
[Link: www.alexfoundation.org...]
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:18:48pm |
re: #287 Gus 802
He will, get fried, eventually.
Another scam artist skirting the laws.
Or, maybe not. If he skirted the laws just so.
I think they followed the letter of the law, very closely.
Not the intent, but intent isn't going to be prosecutatble.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:20:12pm |
re: #291 negativ
LOL!
Well, I haven't adopted one yet.
You're not making the decision easier!
And, I'm not totally gung ho, to start with!
Forgot about hairballs!
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austin_blue Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:20:27pm |
Okay, gotta go. She Who Must Be Obeyed is desirous of my presence. Night all, sweet dreams.
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What, me worry? Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:21:38pm |
re: #294 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
Well, I haven't adopted one yet.
You're not making the decision easier!
And, I'm not totally gung ho, to start with!
Forgot about hairballs!
Do you have a kitty now?
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:27:25pm |
Time for me to knock out for the night so I'll offer this up as a good evening to you all.
Gary Moore with Phil Lynott. Amazing long sustain at 2:55 or so.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:28:18pm |
re: #296 marjoriemoon
I don't. But I've been thinking about one, for a long time.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:29:51pm |
re: #290 ProLifeLiberal
Apparently, Andrew Jackson had a pet parrot (named Poll) he taught swear words. At Jackson's viewing (after his death) they had to remove the parrot from his location for being a disruption.
My limited understanding is that the highly intelligent parrots (African Greys in particular) are a colossal pain in the ass for the first ~10 years of their lives. If not for that, I'd willingly have at least a couple of birds capable of re-enacting Fry & Laurie routines, reciting x-rated limericks, and sexually harassing everyone and everything that came within earshot of them.
Or at least rambling like a mental patient.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:38:39pm |
The Sandmonkey thread at Atlas Shrugs is delicious, with the Sandmonkey himself, Pamela Geller, Barry Rubin, Ramy Yaacoub, and others weighing in.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:40:01pm |
re: #302 Dark_Falcon
Sleep tight, and wake up to a new, exciting day!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:40:32pm |
re: #297 Gus 802
Tex Williams: Little Ole Wine Drinker Me
Same song, different substance
Same result.
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Kronocide Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:41:04pm |
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Kronocide Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:42:53pm |
I'll never have a blog, can't seem to check my typing before I post.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:44:04pm |
:-/
[Link: twitter.com...]
The reason why I don;t tweet as often is because I am now suffering from a medical condition in my leg. Been for 7 days now.It started with a nerve inflammation due to a delayed reaction to extreemly expired tear gas mixed with other stuff all the way to my back.
After a round of treatment, the inflammation is gone, and replaced with possible sciatica, or something worse. Blood vessles burst.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:47:06pm |
re: #308 BigPapa
Use Charles spell check !
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:48:08pm |
re: #309 000G
That doesn't sound good.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:57:56pm |
This is not good:
[Link: www.migrant-rights.org...]
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:01:36pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:04:26pm |
re: #315 freetoken
Probably under-reported.
Violent mobs - the antithesis of "civilization".
See also [Link: blogs.independent.co.uk...]
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Kronocide Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:08:40pm |
It is about time. For the last 50 years, America has treated the Middle East as if it were just a collection of big gas stations: Saudi station, Iran station, Kuwait station, Bahrain station, Egypt station, Libya station, Iraq station, United Arab Emirates station, etc. Our message to the region has been very consistent: "Guys, here's the deal. Keep your pumps open, your oil prices low, don't bother the Israelis too much and, as far as we're concerned, you can do whatever you want out back. You can deprive your people of whatever civil rights you like. You can engage in however much corruption you like. You can preach whatever intolerance from your mosques that you like. You can print whatever conspiracy theories about us in your newspapers that you like. You can keep your women as illiterate as you like. You can create whatever vast welfare-state economies, without any innovative capacity, that you like. You can under-educate your youth as much as you like. Just keep your pumps open, your oil prices low, don't hassle the Jews too much — and you can do whatever you want out back."
Thomas Friedman, 'The Mother of All Wakeup Calls'
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:28:03pm |
Crazy how we're willing to sacrifice human lives for our own personal and national goals.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:29:37pm |
Good night, all.
Posters & lurkers.
Be well.
Play nicely.
Laters.
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:35:00pm |
re: #319 Gus 802
re: #318 BigPapa
Yup, and we subconsciously expect it to continue this way:
Larger-Than-Life Dallas Is Barely Growing
[...]
But critics suggest that Dallas’s larger-than-life image may be shrinking for another reason. They say that officials’ lack of investment in public schools, streets, parks and pools — the real-world priorities outside the city’s highbrow Arts District, with its cultural monuments designed by the hottest “starchitects” (Norman Foster, Rem Koolhaas, I. M. Pei, Renzo Piano) and soon-to-be sky-high Santiago Calatrava “signature” bridges — is sending white families and middle-class minorities moving to the suburbs. The result, they say, is an increasingly Hispanic, less educated and poor inner city.
[...]
Steve H. Murdock, a professor at Rice University and a former United States Census Bureau director, said it is routine for large central-city counties to experience declines or modest growth at the expense of more suburban areas. For years, he said, Dallas and Houston seemed to buck the trend. That dynamic could be changing now, with Dallas’s scant population increase and Houston’s modest 7.5 percent growth. “When you look at Dallas County, it stands out in terms of slow growth,” Mr. Murdock said.
And Dallas is in a position to fare worse than Houston in terms of population, Mr. Murdock said, because the city is older and geographically smaller, and has fewer places to build the sprawling residential developments that can be possible in the suburbs.
Mike Moncrief, the mayor of Fort Worth, said one of the big reasons for his city’s explosive growth is that development is moving from east to west. While Dallas County can “only continue to build density,” he said, its neighbors, including Tarrant County, have room to grow.
[...]
There's much in that article to discuss, one item of which is the inherent belief that we must forever build "suburbs", as if it is a God-given right to live 20 miles from where we work, to send our children 5 miles to school, and go out "on the town" some 30 miles away.
As long as Americans want to spend so much of the day in their automobiles we will forever be slaves to the whims of oil.
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:37:18pm |
And when gasoline prices go up, we expect some Daddy to come in and make us feel alright:
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:40:02pm |
Apparently, after defeating the police state, protestors are facing the military police state in Egypt…
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Kronocide Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:41:20pm |
There's much in that article to discuss, one item of which is the inherent belief that we must forever build "suburbs", as if it is a God-given right to live 20 miles from where we work, to send our children 5 miles to school, and go out "on the town" some 30 miles away.As long as Americans want to spend so much of the day in their automobiles we will forever be slaves to the whims of oil.
Yes, this thinking of old is deeply entrenched. Between reading Atlas Derp/comments and this, hope is waning. Friedman gets it, you get it... and another .00001% of the population get it.
I think the idea of jacking up taxes on gas is actually pretty simple, and most new building should include hi rise apartment complexes that can support massive PV and greenhouse growing systems within the complex. But it's too radical.
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:41:45pm |
re: #323 000G
Apparently, after defeating the police state, protestors are facing the military police state in Egypt…
It's far from over in Egypt. It's far from over in Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran...
It's far from over in America.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:43:15pm |
re: #323 000G
Apparently, after defeating the police state, protestors are facing the military police state in Egypt…
"After the revolution is over, the 'oppressed' often become the 'oppressors'. This means that it is very difficult to get them on the phone, and money loaned for gum and cigarettes during the fighting may as well be forgotten about."
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:50:20pm |
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freetoken Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:50:31pm |
Arizona - land of Poor White Trash in the Statehouse:
Statement by Ariz. State Sen. Scott Bundgaard
[...] Last night, I was a participant in the National Kidney Foundation of Arizona ‘Dancing With The Stars' charitable event to raise money for this fine organization. [...]
While I may not have won the competition it was a wonderful tonight for a wonderful cause. Perhaps my fault was failing to ask my girlfriend to meet with Kurt Warner's wife about how to understand and support a spouse or partner for a ‘Dancing With The Stars' competition.
Upon leaving the event I was accused of inappropriately touching my dancing partner, in front of my parents and family mind you, and she proceeded to throw my clothes and other things out of my car on a freeway as I took her home. I stopped on the freeway to retrieve these items. As I was doing so my girlfriend yelled that she was going to take my car and moved into the driver's seat. I immediately returned to the car and asked her to get out. She refused. I had no choice but to pull her from the driver's seat which resulted in marks on her knees. I had also had no choice but to stop her from punching me and risking highway safety, all of which resulted in a black eye for me and a busted lip (photos available upon request). The authorities arrived as I tried to retrieve my belongings from the highway. I have never inappropriately touched a woman and never would. Period. I was not intoxicated. There was no ‘domestic violence.' Such conduct is offensive to me as it should be to all people. I waive any and all ‘legislative immunity.' If I did something wrong, charge me. I did not.
While a personal matter, I understand the public interest and apologize to any and all for what has taken place. I will not hide behind statements. This was done so to set the record straight. I am available for any and all interviews and for any and all questions."
Busted lip... black eye... scraped knees...
"There was no domestic violence."
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Gus Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:52:11pm |
re: #328 SanFranciscoZionist
So don't.
OK I'll try not to enter my sleep in my typical maudlin mood. Perhaps I will just have a dream instead.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 26, 2011 11:57:59pm |
re: #329 freetoken
Arizona - land of Poor White Trash in the Statehouse:
Statement by Ariz. State Sen. Scott Bundgaard
Busted lip... black eye... scraped knees...
"There was no domestic violence."
Oh good Lord. And he dances, too?
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:05:36am |
re: #332 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh good Lord. And he dances, too?
Well, he partook in a "Dancing With The Stars"-branded fundraiser.
From his campaign site, his lead off paragraph about himself:
Born to a working class family, my strong faith, work ethic, values and sense of responsibility come from my parents and Arizona upbringing.
Oh, he's also the Republican Majority Leader of the AZ Senate. And while being part of the Senate:
He worked toward ending discrimination by public schools against student-led Bible clubs, [13] and putting pressure on HOAs who worked to prevent members from flying the American flag[14] and on the Phoenix Art Museum for using public funds to support exhibits that desecrate the American flag.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:09:48am |
re: #333 freetoken
"He worked toward ending discrimination by public schools against student-led Bible clubs, [13] and putting pressure on HOAs who worked to prevent members from flying the American flag[14] and on the Phoenix Art Museum for using public funds to support exhibits that desecrate the American flag."
Does the Phoenix Art Museum frequently have exhibits that desecrate the American flag? I mean, do they, like, have a permanent American flag desecration art wing, or something?
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Kragar Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:17:27am |
Newt Gingrich confronted over affair
Newt Gingrich's speech at the University of Pennsylvania on Tuesday quickly took a turn for the dramatic when the first student to question him brought up his admitted extramarital affair and accused him of being “hypocritical” for espousing moral values.
"You adamantly oppose gay rights ... but you've also been married three times and admitted to having an affair with your current wife while you were still married to your second," Isabel Friedman, president of Penn Democrats, said to Gingrich. "As a successful politician who's considering running for president, who would set the bar for moral conduct and be the voice of the American people, how do you reconcile this hypocritical interpretation of the religious values that you so vigorously defend?"
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:22:42am |
re: #334 SanFranciscoZionist
As one of the chief reactionaries in AZ government we can expect the wingnuts to come to his aid:
Republic smears Sen. Scott Bundgaard, asks questions later — or never
[...]
Sen. Bundgaard has co-sponsored legislation challenging the claim of U.S. citizenship for children born in the state whose parents are residing in Arizona illegally, making him a juicy target for the pro-amnesty Arizona Republic
Yeah, so now it's just the "pro-amnesty" AZ Republic which is trying to tar the patriotic Bundgaard.
From Bundgaard's own statement it is pretty clear that he is in denial of how violent his relationship is (and that he's even partly a victim.) The dude is probably, from looking at his own website, in denial about a lot of things, including about himself.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:26:32am |
re: #335 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.
Gingrich is doing what I call "Vicarious Penance". That's where someone with a guilty conscience works to convince other people to be extra "good" to make up for their own failings.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:30:57am |
Finished my Israeli movie.
Is it actually impossible for an Israeli director to make a movie with a happy ending? Is is something in the freaking WATER?
OK, "The Syrian Bride" ended on an up note, but still, this one pretty much ripped out my heartstrings. I know the ending was hokey, but I'm still sobbing.
Bloody Israelis.
On the up side, people actually spoke Hebrew in this one. I have a genius for picking Israeli movies to watch in which no one speaks Hebrew. This would be cool if I were trying to improve my Arabic. Or Georgian. Or English.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:41:09am |
Stephen Colbert addressed science believers as 'gravity huggers'.
I love it.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 1:33:33am |
Up in Lindane's Page on Bundgaard I put another entry with background on Bundgaard, who has, shall we say a "colorful" history.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:16:48am |
Uh oh, looks like Esther needs to get moving fast:
Even among GOP faithful, Palin's star is fading
[...] Republicans still like her, but now they openly question whether she could or should be nominated for president, let alone elected.
At a recent gathering in South Carolina, the site of a crucial early presidential primary next year, party activists said the former Alaska governor didn't have the experience, the knowledge of issues or the ability to get beyond folksy slang and bumper-sticker generalities that they think is needed to win and govern.
Many are shopping for someone else. They're looking at Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., for example, and seeing what they call a smarter, more experienced candidate who's equally as conservative.
"Sarah Palin with a brain," said Gail Moore, a Republican from Columbia.
[...]
Michele Bachmann is "smarter" than Sarah Palin?
That's sort of like saying Mars is more hospitable to human life than Venus. That's technically true, but ignores the fact that if you were transported to Mars right now you'd die within seconds.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:19:06am |
Food for thought--there is a Stella Artois ad in which Adrian Brody sings to the beer as though it were a woman, and, among other things, refers to beheading her.
Why has Pamela Geller not leapt on this evidence of creeping Islamism in America, as promoted by the Belgians? Does she think this is unimportant merely because 'beheading' is what one does to a Stella Artois, and it's an alcoholic drink?
////
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:19:38am |
re: #341 freetoken
Uh oh, looks like Esther needs to get moving fast:
Even among GOP faithful, Palin's star is fading
Michele Bachmann is "smarter" than Sarah Palin?
That's sort of like saying Mars is more hospitable to human life than Venus. That's technically true, but ignores the fact that if you were transported to Mars right now you'd die within seconds.
I actually don't see any evidence that Bachmann is smarter than Palin.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:20:46am |
re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist
If you read that article I think it becomes clear that the people to whom the reporter spoke aren't too concerned about "evidence" so much as popular momentum.
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Kragar Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:23:29am |
re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist
I actually don't see any evidence that Bachmann is smarter than Palin.
But she uses like bigger words and stuff.
/
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mdey Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:45:56am |
re: #344 freetoken
That's what I got out of the article too. It seems to me they are searching for an Electable candidate. They said that they are considering Pawlenty and Barbour too. Those two are better candidates than the balloon heads Palin and Bachmann, so you've got them a little credit.
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mdey Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:52:30am |
re: #346 mdey
I meant, you've got to give them a little credit. For being somewhat pragmatic. They have a bunch of shitty candidates. They have to pick the least shitty of the lot.
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Mardukhai Sun, Feb 27, 2011 2:58:35am |
"Mahi-mahi" is a polite neologism for "dolphin," a fish with a big-giant head. Grocers found that they could not sell the fish when it was labeled "dolphin" so they decided to change the name.
Now tell your friends that you had "sauteed dolphin" -- they'll get sick, and never speak to you again. That can be a good thing.
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abolitionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 3:25:32am |
Libyan revolt appoints provisional government
BENGHAZI, Libya – A member of the Benghazi city council says the Libyan cities under rebel control have appointed an ex-justice minister to lead a provisional government.Fathi Baja says opponents of Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi named Mustafa Abdel-Jalil to the provisional leadership post.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 3:28:59am |
re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist
I actually don't see any evidence that Bachmann is smarter than Palin.
She's even more vicious tho.
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abolitionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 3:37:51am |
North Korea threatens to attack South Korea, US
SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea threatened Sunday to enlarge its nuclear arsenal and mercilessly attack South Korea and the United States, as the allies prepared to start annual joint military drills which the North says are a rehearsal for an invasion.
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AK-47% Sun, Feb 27, 2011 3:39:24am |
re: #348 Mardukhai
I am amazed that the British can still eat spotted Dick and toad in the hole.
Even more amazed that they eat "spagbol", their term for spaghetti bolognaise. Quite a knack for taking even tasty food and making it sound unappetizing...
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abolitionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 3:52:28am |
U.S. tells Gaddafi it is time to go as revolt closes in
Excerpt:
One key element in the opposition's efforts to unseat him may be tribal loyalties, always a factor in the desert nation of six million and one which Gaddafi, despite official rhetoric to the contrary, tended to reinforce down the years.His former justice minister Mustafa Mohamed Abud Ajleil, now gone over to the opposition in Benghazi, was quoted by the online edition of the Quryna newspaper as saying that an interim government, whose status remained unclear, would "forgive" his large Gaddadfa tribe for "crimes" committed by the leader.
Such declarations may be intended to erode Gaddafi's efforts to rally supporters into a do-or-die defense of the old guard.
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The Left Sun, Feb 27, 2011 4:24:39am |
re: #352 ralphieboy
I am amazed that the British can still eat spotted Dick and toad in the hole.
Even more amazed that they eat "spagbol", their term for spaghetti bolognaise. Quite a knack for taking even tasty food and making it sound unappetizing...
spagbol is an abhorrent word.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 4:28:04am |
re: #354 iceweasel
Hey Ice. Here's something for your dander.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Men who abuse women physically and emotionally may also sabotage their partners’ birth control, pressuring them to become pregnant against their will, new reports suggest.
For me, this goes hand-in-hand with the GOP's opposition to abortion rights, sex ed, contraception, and, well, women's rights in general.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 4:37:09am |
re: #354 iceweasel
spagbol is an abhorrent word.
I associate it with something plastic, toxic and artificial. Good appetite!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 4:42:32am |
Perhaps the silliest puff-piece for JA-Anon-WL I've seen:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:08:08am |
re: #355 Obdicut
Hey Ice. Here's something for your dander.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
For me, this goes hand-in-hand with the GOP's opposition to abortion rights, sex ed, contraception, and, well, women's rights in general.
For me it also goes to the controversy over the wrestler kid who didn't want to fight females. When did male physical aggression towards women become a good thing? Can't have it both ways.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:17:16am |
re: #359 Decatur Deb
Huh, hadn't heard of that wrestling story. Looks like everyone involved comported themselves pretty well.
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]
Everyone respecting each other's positions and choices and stuff-- what's up with that?
As an ex-boxer and boxing instructor, I think aggression inside the ring is entirely different from aggression outside it. I haven't gotten into a brawl-type fight in more than twelve years, but if I weren't concerned about concussions, I'd still be sparring and boxing.
I think in order to do true intergender fights, you need to take the muscle/fat ratio into account, but other than that, I'm all for it. This would mean, of course, that there weren't any women at the heavyweight level, since women just aren't really capable of packing on muscle like that-- bodybuilders aside, who are, obviously, pathetic at fighting.
Anyway: I think any aggression, whatever the gender, outside the realm of sanctioned stuff like boxing, wrestling, etc., is wrong. I don't really think it's worse to be aggressive towards a woman except that, in general, it's going to be an unfair matchup with a more physically powerful man dominating the woman, and the man more comfortable with physical violence and aggression.
When teaching women how to fight, I noticed that the first thing that always had to be overcome was a hesitation, a flinch, something like that, when punching, kicking, etc. They started off, always, unsure that it was okay to hit, and that was made manifest down at the reflexive level.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:26:11am |
re: #360 Obdicut
Huh, hadn't heard of that wrestling story. Looks like everyone involved comported themselves pretty well.
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]
Everyone respecting each other's positions and choices and stuff-- what's up with that?
As an ex-boxer and boxing instructor, I think aggression inside the ring is entirely different from aggression outside it. I haven't gotten into a brawl-type fight in more than twelve years, but if I weren't concerned about concussions, I'd still be sparring and boxing.
I think in order to do true intergender fights, you need to take the muscle/fat ratio into account, but other than that, I'm all for it. This would mean, of course, that there weren't any women at the heavyweight level, since women just aren't really capable of packing on muscle like that-- bodybuilders aside, who are, obviously, pathetic at fighting.
Anyway: I think any aggression, whatever the gender, outside the realm of sanctioned stuff like boxing, wrestling, etc., is wrong. I don't really think it's worse to be aggressive towards a woman except that, in general, it's going to be an unfair matchup with a more physically powerful man dominating the woman, and the man more comfortable with physical violence and aggression.
When teaching women how to fight, I noticed that the first thing that always had to be overcome was a hesitation, a flinch, something like that, when punching, kicking, etc. They started off, always, unsure that it was okay to hit, and that was made manifest down at the reflexive level.
I'm less analytical: When intergender fighting becomes a popular spectator sport, thousands (of the millions) of spectators will get a socially-destructive message. "Don't hit girls" is an illogical but very useful inhibition that took millenia to make popular.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:28:20am |
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The Left Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:33:14am |
re: #355 Obdicut
Hey Ice. Here's something for your dander.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
For me, this goes hand-in-hand with the GOP's opposition to abortion rights, sex ed, contraception, and, well, women's rights in general.
Sure does. Well, I'm fine and dander-y now, thanks. :)
Marital rape wasn't even a crime in all 50 states til the mid 80's; it's been known for a long time that sabotage of birth control is one way abusive men try to control their partner.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:33:52am |
re: #361 Decatur Deb
I'm less analytical: When intergender fighting becomes a popular spectator sport, thousands (of the millions) of spectators will get a socially-destructive message. "Don't hit girls" is an illogical but very useful inhibition that took millenia to make popular.
I'd say that it's not a really firm inhibition, though. Girls get hit all the time. Spousal abuse is rampant, and sexual assault is rampant as well. I read it the other way: to whatever extent there's an inhibition against hitting girls, there's an inhibition against girls hitting, at all, even in self-defense.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:38:19am |
re: #364 Obdicut
I'd say that it's not a really firm inhibition, though. Girls get hit all the time. Spousal abuse is rampant, and sexual assault is rampant as well. I read it the other way: to whatever extent there's an inhibition against hitting girls, there's an inhibition against girls hitting, at all, even in self-defense.
I agree--it's way imperfect an inhibition, and we're moving backwards when we weaken it. (Our elementary school had mandatory boxing for everyone above 4th grade, but we were an all-boys 'boarding' school. I can't imagine that in our litigious modern system.)
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:42:58am |
re: #365 Decatur Deb
I'm just not sure we're actually moving backwards by weakening the inhibition. I think, biologically, that the inhibition is not one against violence towards women, but against violence towards women other than your mate or your children. Men who abuse women aren't like to go around beating up women in general, they almost always beat up their wives and their daughters. To me, the inhibition isn't against using violence towards women, it's about more 'respecting' the monopoly of violence that that woman's mate and family has towards her.
It was socially acceptable in Victorian society to beat your wife. Even if it was seen, in the upper classes, as a bit of a sign of a bad temper, it didn't get you ejected from polite society, arrested, or suffer any negative consequence whatsoever. I'd say inhibitions against beating women mostly started with the feminist revelations about domestic violence, rather than having been part of our culture for a long time.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:47:22am |
Derangement syndrome not limited to the right:
02-22-2011, 11:03 PM
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Koch Brothers - Holy Fuck!
Apparently the Koch (sucker) brothers are actually related to Ilse Koch!Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-03-11 10:30 AM
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1. Holy Shit -- from one of your links --
Fred Koch, (pronounced Coke) appeared to have a dual personality where he was an active member of the John Birch Society and railed against Communism, while making his first millions working with Stalin's Russia developing oil refineries during the 30's. He and his sister were helpful in the rise of Hitler's dominance leading up to the US declaration of War. Sister Issa was later tried and sentenced to life in prison having been found guilty of making lamp shades from the skin of terminated Jews.
(amazing what you'll find if you dig online)WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-03-11 11:18 AM
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6. that woman is related to the Cock brothers?
Wow. I knew they were evil, but as blatant as that.BTW, they may want to sound refined, pronouncing their name coke, but in my book, phonetics trumps...cock.
I am sickened. I hope this story goes far and wide.
sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-17-11 12:28 PM
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24. did the Koch family get their start up money from tanning the hides of murdered jews? >Link>>
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 12:29 PM by sam sarrha
maybe not, but in germany they seem to have decorated their homes with them..DearAbby (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-15-11 02:57 PM
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The Kochs, A Nazi Past, Oil & The Foundation of The RightNotorious Nazis Ilse Koch, her husband Karl Otto Koch and Erich Koch are the ghosts of Koch Industries, who seized the U.S. conservative political agenda years ago and seem capable of seizing the government in total through the Tea Party. Ilse Koch was the Nazi's specialist in making objects from human skin; was the only woman charged with war crimes; and along with her husband was in charge of one of the most horrific horror camps in Nazi Germany.
Because, you see, all Kochs are related.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:49:16am |
re: #367 Sergey Romanov
Also, isn't the 'human-skin lampshade' thing just a misattributon, that the tattooed pieces of skin found were 'just' horrific trophies?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:50:14am |
re: #366 Obdicut
I'm just not sure we're actually moving backwards by weakening the inhibition. I think, biologically, that the inhibition is not one against violence towards women, but against violence towards women other than your mate or your children. Men who abuse women aren't like to go around beating up women in general, they almost always beat up their wives and their daughters. To me, the inhibition isn't against using violence towards women, it's about more 'respecting' the monopoly of violence that that woman's mate and family has towards her.
It was socially acceptable in Victorian society to beat your wife. Even if it was seen, in the upper classes, as a bit of a sign of a bad temper, it didn't get you ejected from polite society, arrested, or suffer any negative consequence whatsoever. I'd say inhibitions against beating women mostly started with the feminist revelations about domestic violence, rather than having been part of our culture for a long time.
We're talking about something that has been an ideal (i.e. not widely implemented) since the Middle Ages. It was also very class-oriented: "We defend the Flower of Southr'n Womanhood, but not those women picking cotton over there." In the poor parts of Pittsburgh in the '50s, hitting a girl was irretrievable loss of pre-teen face.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:53:05am |
re: #368 Obdicut
Also, isn't the 'human-skin lampshade' thing just a misattributon, that the tattooed pieces of skin found were 'just' horrific trophies?
Correct, just agitprop. There was a human skin lampshade given as a gift to Kochs in, I think, 1941, but they had nothing to do with making it. Something like that also probably happened to the Danzig "human soap". Things tend to be exaggerated during and after wars.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:54:42am |
re: #369 Decatur Deb
Yeah, to me the ideal functioned more as a cover for the actual violence, than a real inhibition against it. And still does.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:55:33am |
re: #370 Sergey Romanov
It's weird that even against the horrific backdrop of the Holocaust, exaggeration occurs.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:56:55am |
re: #372 Obdicut
It's weird that even against the horrific backdrop of the Holocaust, exaggeration occurs.
It kind of made everything believable.
Daytime stuff--trying to get my old thumper back on the road. BBL.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 5:59:42am |
re: #372 Obdicut
It didn't merely occur, it was rather the rule, especially the estimates of the numbers of victims in particular camps and extermination sites. But I think this always happens. During the Serbian genocide there were some very lurid stories about people killed by the Serbs en masse and then burned in ovens at some factory - the story was later debunked by the official commission which investigated it.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:01:56am |
re: #338 SanFranciscoZionist
Finished my Israeli movie.
Is it actually impossible for an Israeli director to make a movie with a happy ending? Is is something in the freaking WATER?
OK, "The Syrian Bride" ended on an up note, but still, this one pretty much ripped out my heartstrings. I know the ending was hokey, but I'm still sobbing.
Bloody Israelis.
On the up side, people actually spoke Hebrew in this one. I have a genius for picking Israeli movies to watch in which no one speaks Hebrew. This would be cool if I were trying to improve my Arabic. Or Georgian. Or English.
For an upbeat Israeli movie with a happy ending, watch "Ushpizin"
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:04:00am |
re: #368 Obdicut
Also, isn't the 'human-skin lampshade' thing just a misattributon, that the tattooed pieces of skin found were 'just' horrific trophies?
JFYI here's the authoritative info:
[Link: www.buchenwald.de...]
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:04:39am |
re: #374 Sergey Romanov
True enough. Rumor always outstrips reality, even when that reality is more horrific than ever has come before.
I think that's a record for me saying the word 'horrific' before 9:00 AM.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:06:09am |
Another inch of snow yesterday. I think it's the Jooz fault, a whole extra month of winter according to the Hebrew calendar.
//
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:07:25am |
re: #368 Obdicut
Also, isn't the 'human-skin lampshade' thing just a misattributon, that the tattooed pieces of skin found were 'just' horrific trophies?
Some of it comes from a "gallery of anatomy" that was assembled from body parts of camp prisoners. There are numerous photos and references to it on the web, but I can't remember exactly what it was called, and for some reason my Google-fu is failing me.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:07:44am |
re: #379 negativ
Some of the legend, I should have said.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:07:46am |
re: #376 Sergey Romanov
Apparently I misremebered about Karl Koch's involvement, but from this it's clear Ilse was not involved in any case.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:09:45am |
re: #378 Alouette
Another inch of snow yesterday. I think it's the Jooz fault, a whole extra month of winter according to the Hebrew calendar.
//
Thanks for making me imagine Punxsutawney Phil with a black hat and peyot.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:12:53am |
re: #379 negativ
Both in the case of the Buchenwald lampshade and the Danzig human soap we have at most a defilement of corpses (without credible evidence that anyone was ever killed specifically for the lampshades and soap, not to mention that there is no evidence those were made from corpses of Jews) which is kinda tame considering what was going on at the same time. But of course it was these lurid details that would go well in the headlines.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:30:28am |
re: #372 Obdicut
It's weird that even against the horrific backdrop of the Holocaust, exaggeration occurs.
While we're on the topic of exaggerations, I would advise to steer clear of scrapbookpages website. I've corresponded with its owner several times since 2004 and she seems to be a closet "revisionist" who pimps all these exaggerations on her site (while also quoting the Leuchter report and whatnot). It is seen as a respectable site for some reason, used all over Wikipedia, but here's an example of what the webmaster wrote to one denier (scroll to the middle):
[Link: www.wwatch.org...]
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Tarkloon Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:39:23am |
I just stopped in to mention that this thread could use more cowbell.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:43:13am |
re: #384 Sergey Romanov
Weird. People like that write as though their brain is in the grip of something else; they seem to think it's not obvious that they're trying to push their bullshit agenda through. From claiming it's all communists, to the weird allegation that immediately after WWII Americans would be attempting to create some sort of propaganda, the whole thing is a series of paranoid spikes.
It's also part of the revisionist fixation on irrelevant details; given that Dachau was not an extermination camp, and given the abundance of evidence of gassing and mass killing at other camps, why on earth would Americans perpetrate some sort of fraud to make it look as though Dachau was?
The most obvious explanation is that Dachau's gas chambers were either experimental, or simply never used because, logistically, it was determined it was better to send prisoners along to the extermination camps rather than do it at Dachau.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:53:59am |
re: #386 Obdicut
I will take a minor quibble with your argument - at first Dachau was seen as an extermination camp where 200,000+ perished (or, rather, there was no clear distinction between death camps and "just" concentration camps, considering the conditions in the latter as well as paucity of information), and the gas chamber was hyped in the newsreels (take a look at the original ones at USHMM site), so IF one argues from the assumption of "deceptive Americans", it would make some sense, especially since Americans didn't liberate the extermination camps. Of course, to argue like that one must be a loon in the first place. Which is my point about the webmaster. I had a hoot of a correspondence with her. She actually denied writing that text I linked to, lying that it was written by her webmaster without her knowing it (LOL). And here are some quotes (from 2004):
You have a Russian name and a Russian e-mail provider. Are you working for some foreign government trying to put American citizens on trial in a foreign country?Quote:
Here is my final word on your suspicions that I am a criminal and subject to prosecution in Germany and Israel for a thought crime.
[...]
I believe that Dachau had a working gas chamber which was used to kill Jews.Quote:
Tim Moore has removed the link to my site and the letter from my webmaster to him.
Now all you see is the photos of Robert Faurisson after one of several beatings by the Thought Police.Quote:
I hope that this will allay your suspicions that I am a criminal and that you will now close your Thought Police file on me and go on to investigate some other suspected criminal.
Also click here:
[Link: www.google.com...]
and note how cleverly she disguises Leuchter's claims in "title" tags. It's a pity this site gained a lot of "credibility" simply because of some nifty photos.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:57:31am |
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 6:58:51am |
re: #387 Sergey Romanov
It's obviousness of that sulky sort of argument that confuses me. Passive-aggression is never pretty, but passive-aggressive holocaust denial is just loathesomely moronic.
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:09:11am |
re: #388 negativ
!@#$%^&*()(*&^&%$#@!
We can't get Firefly back, but they're gonna reboot this shit.
Hee.
I watched Castle this week and there was a little shout out to Firefly.
Castle's mom announced that she was going away for the weekend to this great and supposedly famous elite spa, called Serenity Oasis.
She was gushing about it and Castle was looking at her blankly.
She: "What? Do you mean you've never heard of Serenity?"
Castle, with a funny look shakes his head, "Um no. I haven't."
I laughed. The hubby said "Did I miss something? What was so funny about that?"
So I tried to explain, 'you see years ago there was this awesome show and people are still upset that it was cancelled and blah blah......'
He ended up giving me the same sort of blank look as Castle had.
I told him I would forgive his ignorance. No one is perfect. ;)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:15:21am |
re: #271 Killgore Trout
Ramy Yaacoub said...
As I pointed out earlier Sandmonkey isn't the only one waking up to the new American right. Moderates in the region saw a whole new ugly side to who they thought were allies.
Well some like those at National Review and the Weekly Standard still are allies. But others have just gone nuts, and now hate all Muslims. Those loons ideas about the protests all involve various sorts of homicidal fantasies. Reminds me of serial killers, really.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:16:02am |
re: #389 Obdicut
It's obviousness of that sulky sort of argument that confuses me. Passive-aggression is never pretty, but passive-aggressive holocaust denial is just loathesomely moronic.
Quite Concur.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:19:25am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:19:39am |
re: #389 Obdicut
Although now I see she has a blog
[Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
where she's quite more open.
E.g. [Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
Or this:
[Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
Strangely, after the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russians released some of the records, that had allegedly been destroyed, and turned them over to the Red Cross. The records were incomplete, but the numbers are embarrassingly low. I can’t even tell you the numbers for fear of being charged with being a criminal the next time I go to Germany, so you will just have to look it up yourself.
Hangs it all out.
And here she repeats Carlo Mattogno's silliness about Elie Wiesel's not being a Buchenwald survivor: [Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:23:10am |
re: #389 Obdicut
It's obviousness of that sulky sort of argument that confuses me. Passive-aggression is never pretty, but passive-aggressive holocaust denial is just loathesomely moronic.
I just find any sort of holocaust denial loathesome and moronic.
I also have trouble understanding how peoples heads work that are doing it. I get the anti-Jew and bigotry that underlies it and provides motivation. I just have a hard time comprehending how they manage to create that massive of an illusion/delusion in their heads.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:24:42am |
re: #395 Jadespring
how they manage to create that massive of an illusion/delusion in their heads.
Maybe they got hold of some of your "organic" mushrooms!!
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:25:01am |
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:25:52am |
re: #396 sattv4u2
how they manage to create that massive of an illusion/delusion in their heads.
Maybe they got hold of some of your "organic" mushrooms!!
//
Well if this was the case at least it would offer a reasonable explanation. I could understand that. :D
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:27:14am |
Well, short time here and I'm on the road again. BBL
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:28:12am |
re: #399 Dark_Falcon
Well, short time here and I'm on the road again. BBL
With Bob Hope and Bing Crosby?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:28:43am |
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:29:56am |
re: #394 Sergey Romanov
Ugh. Disgusting.
The part of the sentence, that the museum display cut out, explains why the Nazis made the decision to “transport the Jews to the east” six months after Germany attacked the Soviet Union: they didn’t want the Jews to cause them to lose another war.
Aside from clearly and odiously overlooking that that is not an explanation, but a pretext, that's an incredible fucking insult to every German Jewish WWI veteran.
Don't you see? They had to commit genocide against the Jews. It was all the Jews fault. Jews Jews Jews.
Such an insane fascination with us.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:33:27am |
re: #402 Obdicut
Ugh. Disgusting.
Aside from clearly and odiously overlooking that that is not an explanation, but a pretext, that's an incredible fucking insult to every German Jewish WWI veteran.
Don't you see? They had to commit genocide against the Jews. It was all the Jews fault. Jews Jews Jews.
Such an insane fascination with us.
Then there's this:
[Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
Aside from the Mattognesque fascination with Treblinka as a "transit camp" from Warsaw to Majdanek, there's this:
Norman Finkelstein is considered by some Jews to be a “Holocaust denier.” Was it his parents who made him a denier?
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:34:39am |
re: #402 Obdicut
Ugh. Disgusting.
Aside from clearly and odiously overlooking that that is not an explanation, but a pretext, that's an incredible fucking insult to every German Jewish WWI veteran.
Don't you see? They had to commit genocide against the Jews. It was all the Jews fault. Jews Jews Jews.
Such an insane fascination with us.
When I read that part my thoughts were "So? Your point?" This tidbit somehow makes the extent of what happened more justifiable or something? You sick, sick person..... '
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:34:42am |
I guess I will have to sum all this up eventually a publish a posting at HC.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:36:54am |
re: #403 Sergey Romanov
And I see she's a propagator of the lie that the Germans were resettling the Jews to the east.
Make up your mind, denier! Either choose that the Germans were right to commit genocide against the Jews because we're evil backstabbing untrustworthy traitors, or that those nice Germans weren't killing Jews at all, just trying to resettle them in the East. (Never mind that in the East, the Nazis had a vision of enslaving the Slavs after killing off their intellectual class.)
Faugh.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:39:52am |
re: #406 Obdicut
The worst is that she denies being a denier. She will say something like "yes, yes, there were 100,000,000 Jews killed by the Nazis; if you say so". That's her m.o.
Continuing:
[Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
What a strange clause to put into a law! “Jewish colors”? You mean, like gang colors? No, I think what the Nuremberg laws were referring to was the blue and white “Jewish flag” which is now the flag of Israel. Was Hitler actually a Zionist, who wanted the Jews to have their own country some day?
And of course we can't do without this:
[Link: furtherglory.wordpress.com...]
"Political Correctness a.k.a. cultural Marxism"
OK, I'm done with her for today.
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:41:43am |
re: #403 Sergey Romanov
The first comment under that post is even worse. That she would even allow that comment to stand says everything about where she's truly coming from.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:50:11am |
re: #408 Jadespring
She's also very ignorant for someone who has been "studying the Holocaust for 17 years". Haavara agreement aside, if she just read the 1937 Herbert Hagen report on his and Eichmann's visit to Palestine, he would see that this was the official position of the Nazi govt:
"Promotion of the Emigration of Jews from Germany. To further promote the emigration of Jews from Germany, the Jew Polkes proposed to make possible the emigration of 50,000 Jews per year with 1,000 Sterling per head, by means of an increase in the transfer of goods through Paltreu (Palaestina Treuhandstelle der Juden in Deutschland)* {*The German Office of the Ha'avara Company for the transfer of Jewish property from Nazi Germany to Palestine.} and "Nemico" (Near and Middle East Corporation). The goods would be sold in Palestine, Iraq, Turkey and in Peria. Immigration to Palestine would in this case be possible without the special consent of the English Mandatory government since Jews with 1,000 Sterling are considered as so- called capitalists.""Opinion This plan must be rejected by us for two reasons: (a) It is not our aim to have Jewish capital transferred, but rather, in the first place, to induce Jews without means to emigrate. Second, the aforementioned emigration of 50,000 Jews annually would in the main strengthen Judaism in Palestine, and considering that according to the policy of the Reich the establishment of an independent state of the Jews in Palestine should be prevented, this plan cannot be a subject for discussion.
(b) An Increase in the transfer of goods to the Near and Middle East would mean that these countries would be lost to the German Reich as 'countries supplying foreign currency.'
Furthermore this would strengthen the 'Ha'avara system' (Jewish companies for the transfer of capital of Jews emigrating from Germany), which was nurtured by the Reich Economics Ministry and to which we are opposed."
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darthstar Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:54:46am |
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Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:55:20am |
re: #409 Sergey Romanov
She would find a way to justify ignoring obvious statements like that.
Even with just the little I read it's quite clear she the psychological type that starts with conclusions and fits the 'evidence' to meet them. She's a Jew hater whether she admits that consciously to herself or not.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:08:22am |
re: #410 darthstar
Shuttle Launch as seen from a commercial flight
[Link: www.wimp.com...]
Mornin' everyone.
Surprised a commercial aircraft would have clearance that close at that time
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:13:37am |
Good morning Lizardia. The sunburn, it itches!
Since this is technically a food thread a quick shout-out to the best meal I had in my Florida weekend:
Peace River Produce and Seafood
5337 Duncan Road
Punta Gorda, FL 33982-1737
Excellent crab soup, really well done fresh shrimp, and an interesting atmosphere. And not exactly on the beaten track.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:19:58am |
re: #410 darthstar
Shuttle Launch as seen from a commercial flight
[Link: www.wimp.com...]
Mornin' everyone.
GREAT video!
But - I hate flying so very much, even just the background sounds of the plane in that video wigged me out. My palms got sweaty . . . I really hate to fly.
| 415 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:23:13am |
re: #414 reine.de.tout
GREAT video!
But - I hate flying so very much, even just the background sounds of the plane in that video wigged me out. My palms got sweaty . . . I really hate to fly.
Prior bad experience?
| 416 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:23:28am |
Good Morning all!
The Temple of Vesta is proving to be a grueling project. While I am really enjoying working with Celluclay, I am getting tired of it.
How is everyone this am?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:24:54am |
re: #416 ggt
Good Morning all!
The Temple of Vesta is proving to be a grueling project. While I am really enjoying working with Celluclay, I am getting tired of it.
How is everyone this am?
Catching up on bills, collecting tax data, and watching Maru vids on YouTube. How about yourself?
Oh, and drinking tea with cold biscuits.
| 418 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:26:29am |
re: #415 sattv4u2
Prior bad experience?
No, all my flying experiences have been quite uneventful.
I just don't like it.
I get on a plane, I'm so nervous I become a complete babbling idiot, driving everyone around me crazy. I just start chattering about nothing at all - just nervousness. I hate it.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:26:49am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:27:34am |
re: #418 reine.de.tout
No, all my flying experiences have been quite uneventful.
I just don't like it.
I get on a plane, I'm so nervous I become a complete babbling idiot, driving everyone around me crazy. I just start chattering about nothing at all - just nervousness. I hate it.
So ,, no different than your everyday routine!!
//
OUCH!!!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:28:02am |
I have no idea about the author or the publication. I am wondering about the money.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:29:32am |
re: #416 ggt
Good Morning all!
The Temple of Vesta is proving to be a grueling project. While I am really enjoying working with Celluclay, I am getting tired of it.
How is everyone this am?
Perhaps it would be easier if you were posting photo-updates in the Pages?
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prairiefire Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:29:44am |
re: #416 ggt
Good Morning all!
The Temple of Vesta is proving to be a grueling project. While I am really enjoying working with Celluclay, I am getting tired of it.
How is everyone this am?
Morning! Do you make miniatures as a hobby?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:30:21am |
re: #422 Sergey Romanov
Perhaps it would be easier if you were posting photo-updates in the Pages?
Would be nice, but I still can't navigate Pages.
shamed to admit it.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:31:14am |
re: #423 prairiefire
Morning! Do you make miniatures as a hobby?
Who said anything about a mini?
He's making a full sized one!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:31:14am |
re: #423 prairiefire
Morning! Do you make miniatures as a hobby?
I would love to, but haven't the time.
Time is the factor in this project. It is my kid's school project and, well, I am trying to "help" him.
ugh!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:31:23am |
re: #420 sattv4u2
So ,, no different than your everyday routine!!
//
OUCH!!!
Oh, har-de-har-har!!!
LOL.
Actually, yep.
| 428 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:31:58am |
re: #425 sattv4u2
Who said anything about a mini?
He's making a full sized one!
Yeah, cutting the marble is a work-out in itself.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:33:52am |
And on that note, going to make blueberry pancakes and bacon for family brunch!
| 430 |
Sheila Broflovski Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:33:58am |
Hey honcos.
I went swimming this morning.
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prairiefire Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:34:09am |
re: #426 ggt
My son and I are going to make a diorama of Greek mountains and the Aegean sea this week.
| 432 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:34:12am |
I'm not too optimistic about the outcome. Kid's artistic abilities are, well, not something he enjoys expressing.
| 433 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:34:52am |
re: #431 prairiefire
My son and I are going to make a diorama of Greek mountains and the Aegean sea this week.
A diorama would be sooo much easier. The Aegean would make a wonderful focal point. Sooo Blue.
| 434 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:35:03am |
re: #427 reine.de.tout
Oh ,, and no hurry ,,, but You've Got Mail
| 435 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:35:23am |
re: #432 ggt
I'm not too optimistic about the outcome. Kid's artistic abilities are, well, not something he enjoys expressing.
Like father, like son?
| 436 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:36:14am |
re: #435 sattv4u2
Like father, like son?
Well, yeah. His mother, me, is the Art Major. Father is not involved in this project.
| 437 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:43:38am |
Soaring Food Prices Hit Poor Countries, Spur Farmers
Greg Westland produces hard red spring wheat and soybeans on about 5,600 acres in Cando, N.D. The snow is still deep in North Dakota, but Westland is preparing for planting, spending days in his shop with his sons, prepping equipment. The very high prices have convinced him to try to boost the number of bushels he produces per acre.
"We're adding more fertilizer, shooting for a 60-bushel hard red spring wheat crop up here and a 42-to-45-bushel soybean crop," Westland says.
Those yields would be about 20 percent above average. Cargill's Page says his company's brisk fertilizer and seed sales indicate that farmers are responding.
Do the Organic All Natural non-GMO Food Whackos understand that we can't feed everybody without Science.
| 438 |
_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:45:59am |
Good morning. I was disheartened to see a story about how the anti khadafy rebels were chanting "khadafy the Jew" in their protests.
[Link: www.vosizneias.com...]
It is a bad sign if that message is not vigourously denounced by other khadafy opponents. Anyone want to hold their breath waiting for it?
| 439 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:48:03am |
re: #431 prairiefire
My son and I are going to make a diorama of Greek mountains and the Aegean sea this week.
There is a wonderful way to make water seem really deep and wet. Use cutout curves of scrapbook paper in deep green and blue, then put a piece of that "bathroom" glass or plastic stuff (cut to fit) over it.
What I mean by "bathroom" glass is the stuff that can't see thru. It's still clear glass, but is textured so it refracts the light and you can't see thru it. It comes in a plastic version, I think you can find it in the screen door section of Home Depot. It refracts the light so the blue and green card stock is multiplied by the visual systems in the brain.
It would make a nice Aegean Sea.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:48:50am |
re: #438 _RememberTonyC
I'm sorry, where in that story does it say the rebels were chanting "Khadafy the Jew"?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:49:59am |
re: #440 Obdicut
I'm sorry, where in that story does it say the rebels were chanting "Khadafy the Jew"?
Is this how we spell his name on Sundays?
or did you forget an "f"?
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:50:44am |
re: #441 ggt
I was using TonyC's spelling. Given that it's all being transposed into our alphabet, it really doesn't seem to matter much.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:51:18am |
re: #442 Obdicut
I was using TonyC's spelling. Given that it's all being transposed into our alphabet, it really doesn't seem to matter much.
You should have said you forgot an "f".
:)
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:51:52am |
re: #440 Obdicut
I'm sorry, where in that story does it say the rebels were chanting "Khadafy the Jew"?
My bad .... It was graffitti ... At any rate, stuff like at should get people's attention and be countered if possible. A big "if"
| 445 |
_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:53:01am |
| 446 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:53:09am |
I'm off to the Temple of Vesta.
have a great day all!
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:53:42am |
re: #444 _RememberTonyC
A crowd chanting it and a piece of graffiti are very, very different. I've seen plenty of anti-semitic graffiti here in the ol' US of A.
You're also linking to a site with comments like this:
Just wondering which country is next? Bets are either Jordan or Iran, either way they're all killing themselves which at least in my view is good all around. No one can disagree that the more they kill each other the better and safer this world is.
which is a really, really foul and shitty point of view.
| 448 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:54:03am |
| 449 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:55:38am |
re: #447 Obdicut
A crowd chanting it and a piece of graffiti are very, very different. I've seen plenty of anti-semitic graffiti here in the ol' US of A.
You're also linking to a site with comments like this:
which is a really, really foul and shitty point of view.
I have to hit "log-out" instead of "refresh".
Obdi, "foul and shitty" aren't nearly foul enough words to use.
I can't think of anything foul enough.
| 450 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:56:06am |
re: #448 ggt
GKQDaffy works rather well, don't you think?
Bye-all!
If we go there, we may as well use the completist version :P
[{al-/el-}]{Q/K/G}[h]{a/e/u[a]}{d[{d/h[dh]}]/th/zz}af[f]{i/y}
| 451 |
Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:56:09am |
re: #437 ggt
Soaring Food Prices Hit Poor Countries, Spur Farmers
Do the Organic All Natural non-GMO Food Whackos understand that we can't feed everybody without Science.
I could comment about this using science. Have a nice science vs science talk about how it is in no way a black vs white binary debate with one side being 'science' and the other "non science."
I think I'll pass though because it appears that you've already made up your mind that anyone who doesn't comply with your thinking 100% percent is a whacko.
| 452 |
_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:59:16am |
re: #447 Obdicut
A crowd chanting it and a piece of graffiti are very, very different. I've seen plenty of anti-semitic graffiti here in the ol' US of A.
You're also linking to a site with comments like this:
which is a really, really foul and shitty point of view.
Honestly ... I only used that site because it came up in the google search ... I didn't learn of it from that article. So I believe with multiple sources, the graffitti exists as described. If you see no issue with the dictator being demonized as a Jew, you probably also don't think that in that region, people can be convinced that khadafy really IS a Jew, as bizarre as it sounds.
| 453 |
Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:00:34am |
re: #452 _RememberTonyC
. If you see no issue with the dictator being demonized as a Jew
What are you talking about? Why do you think I see no issue with it?
That I'm saying it's not at all the same as what you first claimed, which wasn't true, that a crowd was chanting it?
| 454 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:04:45am |
Muammar Gaddafi - Zenga Zenga Song - Noy Alooshe Remix
| 455 |
_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:07:13am |
re: #453 Obdicut
What are you talking about? Why do you think I see no issue with it?
That I'm saying it's not at all the same as what you first claimed, which wasn't true, that a crowd was chanting it?
Dude ... I admitted my mistake, but my point is that these revolutions are very important events with new and hopefully more enlightened leaders emerging. And if there is to be any hope for peace in the region, we need to compete in the arena of ideas and counter the poisonous messages when they pop up. I think we agree on this basic point. That is all I am getting at. If we act wisely and nudge the new leaders towards embracing Israel, it will be necessary to try our best to not allow the bad guys in the region to continue spreading their hatred unopposed.
| 456 |
_RememberTonyC Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:10:57am |
Have a good day everyone ... My son has a playoff game today gotta go
| 457 |
Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:11:45am |
re: #455 _RememberTonyC
And if there is to be any hope for peace in the region, we need to compete in the arena of ideas and counter the poisonous messages when they pop up.
I agree with that, but a piece of graffiti on a wall-- what sort of response does that call for? I'd say it calls for a little whitewash.
Antisemitism is a huge problem in Muslim society, and needs to be beaten back. But doing so isn't as simple as us entering the arena of ideas; the West, and the US, aren't exactly seen positively either. And we're going to be seen less positively if the only issue we appear to care about is whether or not these rebels are antisemitic.
We are still allied with the House of Saud, who are brutal oppressors of their people. Why are rebels supposed to trust us, when we support oppressive governments in the Middle East?
| 458 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:23:43am |
re: #438 _RememberTonyC
Good morning. I was disheartened to see a story about how the anti khadafy rebels were chanting "khadafy the Jew" in their protests.
[Link: www.vosizneias.com...]
It is a bad sign if that message is not vigourously denounced by other khadafy opponents. Anyone want to hold their breath waiting for it?
The graffiti in the center photo doesn't say anything about Jews, it literally says:
Qaddafi - Gaddafi
Ya kalb - Oh dog
Ya maklub - Oh rabid (comes from the same root word as dog, k-l-b)
Which roughly translates to: Gaddafi [is a] rabid dog.
The text in the right foreground of the photo is cut off, so all I can see if the ending letter, which is a soft "h". The text in the left background is hard to read and isn't a word I recognize, though I can make out a couple of the letters. In any event it doesn't say anything about Gaddafi or Jews (Jew is "yahud" in Arabic).
They must be referring to some other graffiti.
| 459 |
Ericus58 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:27:16am |
#1700: Two prominent US senators, John McCain and Joe Lieberman, have told CNN the US should be offering military aid to the emerging provisional government.
#1708: Mr Lieberman tells CNN the US must "give them the wherewithal to fight on behalf of the people of Libya against a really cruel dictator".
| 460 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:29:03am |
re: #458 CuriousLurker
Thanks for the translation. I wouldn't be surprised if the report was true. We saw a bit of anti-Israel/anti-Jew stuff in the Egypt uprising but not as much as I would have expected. I assume it's probably a fairly common insult in the region and I wouldn't really expect some dude with a spray paint can lving in a rural village in northern Libya to adhere to Western sensitivities and political correctness anyways. If the leaders of the protests or the new government start making noise about exterminating the Jews then I'll start to worry.
| 461 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:31:36am |
FWIW, there are a number of English-Arabic online dictionaries that you can use to look up words:
[Link: www.ectaco.co.uk...]
[Link: dictionary.babylon.com...]
Most of you may not be able to ready the resulting Arabic, but I'm sure you're all smart enough to simply zoom in on the text with your browser until it's big enough for you to compare the shapes to whatever you see in a photo.
| 462 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:31:43am |
re: #459 Ericus58
#1700: Two prominent US senators, John McCain and Joe Lieberman, have told CNN the US should be offering military aid to the emerging provisional government.
#1708: Mr Lieberman tells CNN the US must "give them the wherewithal to fight on behalf of the people of Libya against a really cruel dictator".
I think that would be a very stupid move at this point. Q'daffy is almost gone and the protesters can and should do it on their own. If they want help or support later on they'll get it. To interfere now would cause more problems and remove the legitimacy of a native protest movement.
| 463 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:42:26am |
re: #460 Killgore Trout
Thanks for the translation. I wouldn't be surprised if the report was true. We saw a bit of anti-Israel/anti-Jew stuff in the Egypt uprising but not as much as I would have expected. I assume it's probably a fairly common insult in the region and I wouldn't really expect some dude with a spray paint can lving in a rural village in northern Libya to adhere to Western sensitivities and political correctness anyways.
You're welcome. I don't doubt that someone somewhere probably did write it (as an insult), I just wanted to point out that it wasn't what any of the graffiti in that particular photo said.
If the leaders of the protests or the new government start making noise about exterminating the Jews then I'll start to worry.
Yeah, I'm guessing the Libyans are going to have enough immediate problems on their plate for the foreseeable future to render any anti-Semitic notions a non-starter for the time being.
| 464 |
Ericus58 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:55:39am |
re: #462 Killgore Trout
I think that would be a very stupid move at this point. Q'daffy is almost gone and the protesters can and should do it on their own. If they want help or support later on they'll get it. To interfere now would cause more problems and remove the legitimacy of a native protest movement.
I agree.
The ONLY situation that I see where military intervention from a foreign government inside Libya would be the a direct threat to that countries nationals there.
The majority opinion from those in Libya has been "no outside military to assist".
| 465 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 9:58:36am |
re: #463 CuriousLurker
Yeah, I'm guessing the Libyans are going to have enough immediate problems on their plate for the foreseeable future to render any anti-Semitic notions a non-starter for the time being.
My guess is their first order of business is to get the oil exports to Europe flowing again and start bringing in money. I don't think they want to rock the boat too much while they're establishing social and political reforms.
I know the dreaded "Bush Doctrine" is widely shunned these days but I think the best thing for long term stability and prosperity in the region is democratic governments. The trick will be establishing democratic societies to go along with those governments. There will surely be bumps in the road but hopefully once the people get used to making their own choices they'll start to understand the importance of free and open society.
| 466 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:00:40am |
I see Pam is making no effort to back off on her claim that Sandmonkey is an agent for the Muslim Brotherhood.
| 467 |
Obdicut Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:01:22am |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
I like that she's being openly mocked in her comments section.
| 468 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:02:47am |
'I saw Gaddafi's troops shoot children': U.S. citizens describe horror as they flee Libya
Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
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albusteve Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:11:08am |
more...
Gaddafi boxed in as he loses his diplomatic immunity and rebels capture city just 30 miles from Libya capital
good pictures
Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
| 470 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:17:42am |
re: #465 Killgore Trout
There will surely be bumps in the road but hopefully once the people get used to making their own choices they'll start to understand the importance of free and open society.
THIS. They're going to have to figure out how to make freedom work in their society, which is radically different from ours in terms of culture, religion, history, etc. I think it's important that we stay calm and not freak out every time there's a bump in the road. As long as whatever they work out is compatible with modern representative democracy—even if it's not a carbon copy of our own, which I think is impossible as the demographics & dynamics are so different—then I think it'll be a vast improvement.
| 471 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:23:22am |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
I see Pam is making no effort to back off on her claim that Sandmonkey is an agent for the Muslim Brotherhood.
I want to feel sorry for Sandmonkey, but much as I dislike Geller I'm having a hard time doing so. If he's known her for 5 years as he claims, then he must be thoroughly familiar with her hateful bile. You lie down with dogs, you're gonna get fleas.
Whosoever would perfume a scorpion will not thereby escape its sting.
—Sufi proverb
| 472 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:25:26am |
re: #467 Obdicut
I like that she's being openly mocked in her comments section.
Heh, I went there last night and someone made a comment about how the English of an Arab, for whom it is a second language, made more sense than what she wrote.
| 473 |
CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:26:54am |
Okay, I've got a web site to work on and everyone seems to be occupied elsewhere, so I guess I'll BBL.
~~~Gone~~~
| 474 |
Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:28:05am |
re: #467 Obdicut
I like that she's being openly mocked in her comments section.
Just read it. Funny. :)
Other things of interest. People that seem to take tweets as some sort of detailed comments on policy and even as detailed policy announcements. Yes you can really explain, in detail, with detailed opinion, policy points in a tweet. Sure they're a basis but then when the tweeter goes on to explain with more detail...in non tweet form. Like with whole sentences and paragraphs....it still the 'tweet' that counts more.
It's not the first time I've seen this happen. I think it may actually scare me a bit.
Let's run the world in a 'tweet' format. Yep that will work.
| 475 |
Ericus58 Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:31:14am |
re: #468 albusteve
'I saw Gaddafi's troops shoot children': U.S. citizens describe horror as they flee Libya
Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
"The State Department is still not sure how many of the thousands of Americans living in Libya are still waiting to get out."
That would be a turning point if those still in-country are at peril.
I haven't seen released numbers at to how many have left and how many could still be there.
| 476 |
AK-47% Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:32:13am |
re: #474 Jadespring
Let's run the world in a 'tweet' format. Yep that will work.
We are well on the way to doing so. And we are seeing how well it works...
| 477 |
Jadespring Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:33:24am |
re: #470 CuriousLurker
THIS. They're going to have to figure out how to make freedom work in their society, which is radically different from ours in terms of culture, religion, history, etc. I think it's important that we stay calm and not freak out every time there's a bump in the road. As long as whatever they work out is compatible with modern representative democracy—even if it's not a carbon copy of our own, which I think is impossible as the demographics & dynamics are so different—then I think it'll be a vast improvement.
Even countries with a lot of similarities and commonalities end up being different in a lot of ways. Canada and the US for instance. So much the same yet even now there are difference. Same sorts of people that settled it. Basically the same origins in terms of where it came from (Europe). Similar original cultures both N American and European and yet the democratic history of both our countries took different routes.
| 478 |
PhillyPretzel Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:36:13am |
Here is the latest from The Wall Street Journal: [Link: online.wsj.com...]
| 479 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:38:30am |
Historian Bernard Lewis diagnoses the fundamental cause of the region-wide explosion of protest, and dismisses Western notions of a quick fix.
excellent read with Lewis
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:41:27am |
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Feb 27, 2011 10:53:18am |
re: #479 albusteve
Lewis is correct. He knows the area. I would like to see more people following his advice.
| 482 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 12:48:56pm |
re: #375 Alouette
For an upbeat Israeli movie with a happy ending, watch "Ushpizin"
True. I love that movie.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 27, 2011 1:33:29pm |
re: #438 _RememberTonyC
Good morning. I was disheartened to see a story about how the anti khadafy rebels were chanting "khadafy the Jew" in their protests.
[Link: www.vosizneias.com...]
It is a bad sign if that message is not vigourously denounced by other khadafy opponents. Anyone want to hold their breath waiting for it?
Not really. Anti-Semitism is a given in North Africa, and rumors about Gaddafi's supposed Jewish ancestors have been a fixture for many years.
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Views: 253 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...Joe Bacon ✅
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
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Views: 511 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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