Sharia Takeover of America Narrowly Averted

UK radical Islamic buffoon jerks the anti-Muslim movement’s chain
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You may have heard about a demonstration scheduled for today at the White House, called “Sharia4America,” announced by British radical Islamic buffoon Anjem Choudary. Frank Gaffney, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Glenn Beck, and the rest of the Bigot Brigade were convinced it was the beginning of the end. Glenn Beck’s pseudo-news site The Blaze has probably the most ridiculous hyperventilating piece: Are They Serious? ‘Shariah 4 America’ Group Calls for ‘Burkha’ on Statue of Liberty.

But unfortunately for the fear-mongers, Choudary just called off the sharia takeover of America, leaving them looking just as dumb as Anjem himself. Adam Serwer comments:

Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy seized on the rally, announcing a counter press conference “warning of threat of Shariah law to the Constitution.” Now, in a cruel, ironic twist of fate, the foil they were promised will be absent. It’s practically a metaphor for the entire sharia panic in the first place.

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283 comments
1 S'latch  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:05:22pm

Well, Sharia would have been more liberal than the "America" that the right wing social conservatives have in mind.

2 mr.fusion  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:05:33pm

phew!!!

3 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:05:39pm

Maybe they can get a guest speaker from the Family Research Council or the AFA. They've got a lot of the same talking points as the Islamists.

4 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:06:06pm
But just as the rally was dying out, a Muslim man who showed up to pray in front of the White House. He was quickly surrounded by a large group of protestors who shouted an array of insults at him: mocking him for drinking Starbucks coffee, telling him to go back to his country and even throwing tiny crosses at his feet as he prayed. I captured the scene in the video below.

Religious tolerance yay!

5 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:08:43pm

I was shopping at Wal-Mart in "Dearbornistan" yesterday, when it was time for the afternoon prayer, and suddenly everyone in the store pulled their shoes off and bowed down in the direction of Mecca!

And then afterwards they stoned all the people who remained standing!

//oh wait, that totally never happened.

6 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:10:51pm

re: #5 Alouette

I was shopping at Wal-Mart in "Dearbornistan" yesterday, when it was time for the afternoon prayer, and suddenly everyone in the store pulled their shoes off and bowed down in the direction of Mecca!

And then afterwards they stoned all the people who remained standing!

//oh wait, that totally never happened.

Yet...
///

7 celticdragon  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:12:58pm

Any century now, the Islamic wacko majority will take over...

/

8 _remembertonyc  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:15:47pm

re: #5 Alouette

I was shopping at Wal-Mart in "Dearbornistan" yesterday, when it was time for the afternoon prayer, and suddenly everyone in the store pulled their shoes off and bowed down in the direction of Mecca!

And then afterwards they stoned all the people who remained standing!

//oh wait, that totally never happened.

Youtube Video
9 simoom  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:16:50pm

Wisconsin Senate votes to detain absentee Democrats

The Wisconsin state Senate approved a resolution Thursday that would hold absentee Democratic lawmakers "in contempt of the Senate" should they not return to the Capitol by late afternoon.

The measure would allow state law enforcement to issue a warrant in an effort to detain them and return the lawmakers to Wisconsin, according to Senate Majority Leader spokesman Andrew Welhouse.
...
But whether the contempt measure is constitutional remains unclear. The state Constitution prohibits the arrest of lawmakers while the legislature is in session, except for "treason, felony and breach of the peace."

Whether Wisconsin law enforcement would be allowed jurisdiction in Illinois to detain the missing lawmakers is also unclear.

10 nines09  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:17:08pm

Put a Taliban member in a 3 piece suit with perfect English and he could pass for a GOP/TP candidate with some coaching.

11 Simply Sarah  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:17:35pm

You'd think they'd be more subtle about this. I mean, I'd figure it would be dangerous harassing a praying Muslim in front of the White Mosque, what with Obama's Sharia Secret Service around everywhere and all. What brave, patriotic Americans!
//I feel dirty

12 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:19:22pm

Seems like something out of a Peanuts comic strip...

This one in particular.

13 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:22:51pm

It's not that they disagree with America becoming a theocracy, they just disagree over which theology should be calling the shots.

14 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:23:59pm

re: #13 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's not that they disagree with America becoming a theocracy, they just disagree over which theology should be calling the shots.

Obviously it should be Chaos Undivided, because you know how those cultists can go to extremes.

15 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:24:58pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously it should be Chaos Undivided, because you know how those cultists can go to extremes.

WE KAPTURED IT FOOOORRRR KAHOSSS!

16 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:27:14pm

OK, is it just me or did Drudge seem to have a Freudian moment, see the word "Bush" in a headline and make the totally wrong connection in his headline story?

17 dragonfire1981  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:28:33pm

It's the ultimate battle! Idiots vs Bigots! Who will reign supreme when its all over?

18 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:29:01pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, is it just me or did Drudge seem to have a Freudian moment, see the word "Bush" in a headline and make the totally wrong connection in his headline story?

That's been up for a few hours. I didn't understand it either.

19 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:29:18pm

re: #17 dragonfire1981

Forget Iron Chef. This calls for Celebrity Deathmatch!! Good fight.... good night...

20 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:29:51pm

re: #17 dragonfire1981

It's the ultimate battle! Idiots vs Bigots! Who will reign supreme when its all over?

Trick question: The idiots and bigots are one and the same. Whether they're thumping a Bible or a Koran.

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:30:24pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

That's been up for a few hours. I didn't understand it either.

If you read down, there's a bit where one of the rebels yells 'Bring Bush! Bomb the planes!'

According to the story, he's talking about H.W., and the 1991 no-fly zone.

I don't know what the Libyan guy is talking about, and I don't know what Drudge is talking about either.

22 mr.fusion  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:30:32pm

What has become of my poor, sweet, stupid Florida?

Link

State Sen. Alan Hays, R-Umatilla, last month filed an “Application of Foreign Law” bill for the legislative session that begins next Tues., March 8. According to a right-wing blog, the law is an attempt to “stop the spread of Sharia in Florida.”

Red County blogger Richard Swier writes that the controversial anti-Muslim group ACT! for America sent out the following press release about Hays’ bill:

The American and Florida Laws for Florida Courts (anti-Shariah Legislation) has been filed in the Florida Legislature. We have sponsors in both the House and the Senate.

The purpose of American and Florida Laws for Florida Courts is to preserve the sovereignty of the US and Florida and their respective Constitutions by preventing the encroachment of foreign laws and legal systems, such as Shariah law, that run counter to our individual constitutional liberties and freedoms.

“This bill is much needed to stop the spread of Sharia in Florida,” Swier writes.


The summary of the bill says the law “specifies the public policy of this state in applying the choice of a foreign law, legal code, or system under certain circumstances.”

23 sagehen  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:30:55pm

re: #10 nines09

Put a Taliban member in a 3 piece suit with perfect English and he could pass for a GOP/TP candidate with some coaching.

He'd have to shave his beard.

24 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:31:54pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

That's been up for a few hours. I didn't understand it either.

I saw a headline talking about rebels in the Libyan bush, meaning out in the wilds, earlier. The Drudge headline is just grammatically wrong no matter what the meaning.

25 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:31:55pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

If you read down, there's a bit where one of the rebels yells 'Bring Bush! Bomb the planes!'

According to the story, he's talking about H.W., and the 1991 no-fly zone.

I don't know what the Libyan guy is talking about, and I don't know what Drudge is talking about either.

Ah, ok. I missed that when I skimmed the article.

26 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:32:46pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

If you read down, there's a bit where one of the rebels yells 'Bring Bush! Bomb the planes!'

According to the story, he's talking about H.W., and the 1991 no-fly zone.

I don't know what the Libyan guy is talking about, and I don't know what Drudge is talking about either.

All I know is the Right, particularly the warhawks who think Obama's too much of a wimp, are having a grand ol' time with that headline. "See, they want Bush! They want a real president, one who'll bomb Gaddafi's ass back to the stone age, not talk him to death!"

27 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:34:18pm

OT but Thanos has a great page about some right wing talking points on AGW here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Over at Hot Air they are thrilled and crowing about Idiot Inhofe's recent regurgitation of the "Coming Ice Age" myth of the '70's. That myth has been serially and seriously debunked multiple times over the past years. That doesn't stop the science challenged from puking the false myth up in the halls of Congress once more however, they are like little kids refusing to stop believing in the tooth fairy.

This is one of those things that amazes me.

The most basic research into this will tell you about Milankovitch cycles.

Those cycles will tell you that as per orbital variations we should be cooling - and indeed for the past nearly thousand years or so before the industrial period, we were cooling. In the past, those cycles, were the primary drivers of climate changes. Volcanic and geological activity are the other primary natural driver.

Then we turned that cooling trend of nearly 1000 years, around in less than 100 years and overshot by far, even the tiny hump that was the much touted and so called, medieval warm period.

The fact that we are not heading into an ice age is actually one of the strongest possible arguments that man is the main cause of global climate change.

We would be getting cooler if we weren't altering the amount of IR we absorb and triggering feedbacks. Instead we are getting much warmer. If people could read graphs and actually think for even a minute as to what the graphs say, there would not be such a debate.

28 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:35:01pm

re: #26 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

All I know is the Right, particularly the warhawks who think Obama's too much of a wimp, are having a grand ol' time with that headline. "See, they want Bush! They want a real president, one who'll bomb Gaddafi's ass back to the stone age, not talk him to death!"

There is a reason why they are the reichwing of the US.

29 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:43:36pm

Ahhh..

The Reichwing, Rethuglican, Gomorrah old Party.

Just saying it and calling those perverted, plutocratic, theocratic, hypocritical, idiotic, fascist, racist, bigoted, anti-education, anti-woman, anti-American assholes what they are makes me feel better.

30 Gus  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:52:12pm

A Burkha’ on the Statue of Liberty? Are we sure that isn't the Onion? I just went to that website and all I can say is that it seems like they're mostly playing head games which should easily play into the paranoid segment of the American anti-Jihad movement.

31 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:55:07pm

re: #30 Gus 802

A Burkha’ on the Statue of Liberty? Are we sure that isn't the Onion? I just went to that website and all I can say is that it seems like they're mostly playing head games which should easily play into the paranoid segment of the American anti-Jihad movement.

Apparently Choudary links to that website, so it's probably his. He's playing the anti-Muslim nutjobs like violins.

32 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:57:41pm

re: #31 Charles

Apparently Choudary links to that website, so it's probably his. He's playing the anti-Muslim nutjobs like violins.

Now if only they could all go and learn from this.

33 TedStriker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:57:48pm

re: #9 simoom

Wisconsin Senate votes to detain absentee Democrats

If there was ever any doubt what Scott Walker and the WI GOP senators' intentions are, there certainly isn't any now. The fact that they are willing to go to these lengths, this plus the fines and potential loss of privileges if the Dem senators don't return, speaks very loudly...and it ain't good.

This is fascist (and unlawful, IMO) behavior, pure and simple. May G-d save the state of Wisconsin and our Republic from what the TPer cretins are trying to do to it...

34 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:59:50pm

re: #33 talon_262

If there was ever any doubt what Scott Walker and the WI GOP senators' intentions are, there certainly isn't any now. The fact that they are willing to go to these lengths, this plus the fines and potential loss of privileges if the Dem senators don't return, speaks very loudly...and it ain't good.

This is fascist (and unlawful, IMO) behavior, pure and simple. May G-d save the state of Wisconsin and our Republic from what the TPer cretins are trying to do to it...

I'm just thinking of the howls from the Tea Partiers if the situation were reversed. "See! This is how 'big government' operates! If you don't do as they want, they drag you back in irons, stripping you of freedoms and rights in order to get their way! Down with 'big government'!"

But it's Republicans, so it's A-Ok. *rolls eyes*

35 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 12:59:54pm

re: #33 talon_262

If there was ever any doubt what Scott Walker and the WI GOP senators' intentions are, there certainly isn't any now. The fact that they are willing to go to these lengths, this plus the fines and potential loss of privileges if the Dem senators don't return, speaks very loudly...and it ain't good.

This is fascist (and unlawful, IMO) behavior, pure and simple. May G-d save the state of Wisconsin and our Republic from what the TPer cretins are trying to do to it...

They got Ohio. There is a part of me that makes me want to let Ohio go to hell for a bit as an example.

As to Wisconsin, the whole do as I want or I will kill this kitten routine will surely backfire.

36 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:00:28pm

This is the worst Sharia take over ever. I had pork with my pan fried noodles today for lunch and then I picked up some beer and cigarettes. It's like Aasif Mandavi said, "this isn't a sleeper cell, it's a comatose cell."

37 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:00:52pm

re: #34 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm just thinking of the howls from the Tea Partiers if the situation were reversed. "See! This is how 'big government' operates! If you don't do as they want, they drag you back in irons, stripping you of freedoms and rights in order to get their way! Down with 'big government'!"

But it's Republicans, so it's A-Ok. *rolls eyes*

Wait, this is exactly what they did with the endless filibusterer in the Senate. They loved it.

Well, what goes around comes around.

38 SpaceJesus  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:05:37pm

somebody needs to explain to beck and the idiot brigade that this trolling

39 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:06:25pm

re: #37 LudwigVanQuixote

Wait, this is exactly what they did with the endless filibusterer in the Senate. They loved it.

Well, what goes around comes around.

I've pointed that out before to the pro-Walker jock-sniffers. And, in time-honored tradition, they just roll their eyes and mutter something to the tune of "Well, that's 'different.'"

40 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:06:30pm

re: #33 talon_262

If there was ever any doubt what Scott Walker and the WI GOP senators' intentions are, there certainly isn't any now. The fact that they are willing to go to these lengths, this plus the fines and potential loss of privileges if the Dem senators don't return, speaks very loudly...and it ain't good.

This is fascist (and unlawful, IMO) behavior, pure and simple. May G-d save the state of Wisconsin and our Republic from what the TPer cretins are trying to do to it...

See my response directly to Scott Fitzgerald in the last thread.

They may win battles. Wisconsin will win the war.

41 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:09:39pm

re: #38 spacejesus

re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

re: #40 wlewisiii

Ohh and check out my latest science page too...

Sorry to keep plugging it, but I think I have it in a nearly perfect form at the moment.

42 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:09:47pm

re: #30 Gus 802

A Burkha’ on the Statue of Liberty? Are we sure that isn't the Onion? I just went to that website and all I can say is that it seems like they're mostly playing head games which should easily play into the paranoid segment of the American anti-Jihad movement.

If someone's draping the Statue, I'm not thinking Mohammed or Christ--I'm blaming Cristo.

Image: christo_valleycurtain.jpg

43 Simply Sarah  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:10:57pm

re: #40 wlewisiii

See my response directly to Scott Fitzgerald in the last thread.

They may win battles. Wisconsin will win the war.

See, I'm less sure of this. Remember, unions are extremely important for Dems in elections, thanks to their organization. Nuking the unions may provoke a backlash in the short term against the GOP, but if the long term result is weakened or totally busted unions, they'll probably benefit in the long run.

44 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:11:41pm

I wonder if there is anyone out there who thinks Sharia involves allowing gays to marry.

45 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:13:30pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

If someone's draping the Statue, I'm not thinking Mohammed or Christ--I'm blaming Cristo.

Image: christo_valleycurtain.jpg

That photoshop of the Statue of Liberty in a burqa is years old, by the way, and if I recall correctly it was done by a European artist as part of an exhibition of similar works.

I think I may have posted it here once, but I couldn't find the post.

46 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:15:54pm

re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh and check out my latest science page too...

Sorry to keep plugging it, but I think I have it in a nearly perfect form at the moment.

Speaking of that page, I think you may have a stalker blog troll on it (albeit a much more articulate one than average). I thought his username looked familiar, and then I remembered he was the same individual who downdinged a photo page by Thanos that was as non-political as you can get.

Gee, he must really hate trees o_O

47 Simply Sarah  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:17:52pm

re: #46 publicityStunted

Speaking of that page, I think you may have a stalker blog troll on it (albeit a much more articulate one than average). I thought his username looked familiar, and then I remembered he was the same individual who downdinged a photo page by Thanos that was as non-political as you can get.

Gee, he must really hate trees o_O

Man, fuck those trees. Who do they think they are, just sitting there growing. And they don't even have any leaves! How shameless.

48 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:18:32pm

Remember how Russia is full of bears on unicycles?

Well, some of them are damn tired of it!

Youtube Video
49 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:21:09pm

re: #46 publicityStunted

Speaking of that page, I think you may have a stalker blog troll on it (albeit a much more articulate one than average). I thought his username looked familiar, and then I remembered he was the same individual who downdinged a photo page by Thanos that was as non-political as you can get.

Gee, he must really hate trees o_O

I got that impression too. class of 2004, very few posts and a lot of changing the goal posts and purposefully misstating my arguments...

However, it worked out well since it gave a good chance to debunk "ohhh so subversive" things he was posting. Also, they do pine for a chance to debate me and get all worked up about how they could shred me over in their village.

I would be shocked if there weren't ten threads about me there right now.

On the other hand, this really could just be a lurker who comments very rarely and was just not quite following what was said. Logician seemed much too smart for the typical stalker. Most of the stalkers are too busy getting a chubby over being noticed to maintain any sort of coherent writing for more than a few posts.

50 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:21:11pm

re: #45 Charles

When I clicked the photo link in Decatur Deb's post, I got the "requested content cannot be loaded" error message. I've noticed this always seems to happen with images hosted on blogspot, including ones I try to put in my own posts. Are they incompatible with the LGF lightbox script due to some kind of hotlinking restriction?

51 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:21:47pm

Proposed bills would block EPA greenhouse gas rules


Republicans and a few Democrats in the U.S. Congress are backing proposed legislation that would keep the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from regulating greenhouse gases.

Matching bills by House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton of Michigan and Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma, both Republicans, would bar the EPA from mandating emissions limits from factories and power plants. Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn., said he would co-sponsor Upton’s bill.

“This bill puts Congress in charge of deciding our nation’s climate change policy, not EPA bureaucrats,” Inhofe said in a Bloomberg article.

Some power generation executives feel that GHG regulations do not need to be taken off the table. Ralph Izzo, chief executive officer of Public Service Enterprise Group Inc. told Bloomberg he was concerned that Congress will take away EPA’s power and then do nothing.

52 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:22:07pm

re: #50 publicityStunted

When I clicked the photo link in Decatur Deb's post, I got the "requested content cannot be loaded" error message. I've noticed this always seems to happen with images hosted on blogspot, including ones I try to put in my own posts. Are they incompatible with the LGF lightbox script due to some kind of hotlinking restriction?

As a general rule, you don't link to blogspot pics outside your own blogspot blog.

53 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:23:00pm

re: #50 publicityStunted

When I clicked the photo link in Decatur Deb's post, I got the "requested content cannot be loaded" error message. I've noticed this always seems to happen with images hosted on blogspot, including ones I try to put in my own posts. Are they incompatible with the LGF lightbox script due to some kind of hotlinking restriction?

Yes, Blogspot blocks hotlinks. You should always check with the Preview function to make sure the image will display.

54 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:24:05pm

re: #50 publicityStunted

When I clicked the photo link in Decatur Deb's post, I got the "requested content cannot be loaded" error message. I've noticed this always seems to happen with images hosted on blogspot, including ones I try to put in my own posts. Are they incompatible with the LGF lightbox script due to some kind of hotlinking restriction?

Here's the same idea with another photo:

Image: cristo%204.jpg

Works from here.

55 zora  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:24:14pm

re: #50 publicityStunted

same here.

56 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:24:50pm

re: #51 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Proposed bills would block EPA greenhouse gas rules

Congress - full of folks like Inhofe who believe the world is only 6000 years old, and whose sole "scientific" credentials are fat paychecks from oil companies and a claim that none of his family have ever been gay - vs. those evil science driven folks at the EPA.

Damn it! Americans have the right to pollute America and make it unlivable!

They really really need to understand this is not a joke and not a game and that they truly are condemning us to death if they get their way.

America needs to understand before it is too late.

57 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:26:39pm

re: #52 Sergey Romanov

As a general rule, you don't link to blogspot pics outside your own blogspot blog.

I know what a blog is. Perhaps I should find out what a blogspot is.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:28:20pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

I know what a blog is. Perhaps I should find out what a blogspot is.

Blogs through Blogger are blogname.blogspot.com

59 Simply Sarah  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:29:27pm

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

Blogs through Blogger are blogname.blogspot.com

Blogblogbloggedyblog

60 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:29:52pm

re: #59 Simply Sarah

Blogblogbloggedyblog

That's how I read it.

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:30:23pm

re: #9 simoom

Wisconsin Senate votes to detain absentee Democrats

Hasn't the GOP and Tea Party already defined being a Democrat as treason?

62 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:30:30pm

re: #56 LudwigVanQuixote

They really really need to understand this is not a joke and not a game and that they truly are condemning us to death if they get their way. America needs to understand before it is too late.

You'll never guess who, at least at one point, seemed to understand:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

"I am proud to announce that News Corporation has reached its first major sustainability milestone: We have become carbon neutral across all of our global operations and we are the first company of our kind to do so," Murdoch wrote in a memo sent to News Corp. employees.

So, Fox News, the number one climate-denying media machine in America, claims to be carbon-neutral in their own operations. W.T.F. times eleventy-one o_O

63 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:30:59pm

Well, I can see that Libya is over now. Ghadaffi said he would let Chavez mediate the talks. Glad thats over now.
///

64 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:32:28pm

re: #62 publicityStunted

You'll never guess who, at least at one point, seemed to understand:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

So, Fox News, the number one climate-denying media machine in America, claims to be carbon-neutral in their own operations. W.T.F. times eleventy-one o_O

Indeed. Before the orders came down to deny the science, Murdoch thought he would be "trendy" because he saw a little greenwashing as a marketing ploy.

65 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:36:25pm

Human Rights activists disappearing across China

Chinese human rights activists have been disappearing ever since a mysterious call went out on the Internet for a "Jasmine Revolution" similar to the uprisings against authoritarian regimes in the Middle East — a call that was made again this week.

Jiang Tianyong, an activist lawyer in Beijing, vanished Feb. 19, a day before the protests called for in Internet postings in the Chinese capital. Jiang has not been heard from since. The mysterious group running the website called this week for fresh protests Sunday.

Jiang and two other human rights lawyers, Tang Jitian and Teng Biao, have disappeared into China's labyrinthine security system in the past two weeks, says China Human Rights Defenders, a Hong Kong-based group. More than 100 other people have had their movements restricted, and six activists face subversion charges, possibly for posting information online about the "Jasmine Rallies," according to the group.

Jiang's wife, Jin Bianling, says she has tried for years to persuade her husband to switch to a safer profession. She fears the worst.

"He might be sentenced on some charge," says Jin of her 39-year-old husband. "But I am most worried they will torture him. He has high-blood pressure, but the police refuse to deliver his medicine. I worry about his personal safety."

Foreign journalists were contacted by Chinese police this week to remind them of the rules that govern journalists operating in the communist-controlled country.

The disappearances began shortly after a website called the "China Jasmine Revolution" appeared on a Facebook page last month and called on Chinese to "take a stroll" in specific spots in dozens of cities in China on Sunday afternoons. The site called on people to smile as they walked. One such call asked for people to walk smiling by the KFC at Dongfanghong Square in the city of Lanzhou or at the Wangfujing shopping plaza near People's Square in Shanghai.

66 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:37:34pm

re: #65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Human Rights activists disappearing across China

Scary stuff. I'm taking a course on contemporary China right now. Just getting in to the Cultural Revolution after spending the past week discussing the Great Leap Forward. Really need to find a good bio of Mao.

67 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:38:19pm

I just got around to watching the Hate Comes to Orange County video. Possibly the saddest thing I've seen in a very long time. Very powerful video.

68 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:38:26pm

re: #65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the Chinese government is keeping even closer tabs on foreign journalists (and foreigners in general) than before. They're hoping to stop any protests before they rise to the level uprisings seen in the Middle East and North Africa:

Public security officials have summoned dozens of foreign journalists in Beijing and Shanghai to be dressed down on videotape, warning them that they had broken reporting regulations by visiting locations that had been selected as protest sites in Internet postings. Journalists were bluntly warned that they faced the loss of their visas and expulsion if they did not abide by new limits on their ability to interview and photograph Chinese citizens, the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of China said in a statement.

In Shanghai, the authorities objected to the location of an annual St. Patrick’s Day parade set for March 12 that had been expected to draw more than 2,000 people, prompting Irish organizations to abruptly cancel the event on Monday. The parade was to have taken place on a major street close to a cinema where the Internet postings had urged people to gather every Sunday to show their displeasure with the Chinese government.

Western diplomats in China said other events that had been planned by foreigners, or with their help, had also been abruptly canceled. “We’ve noticed that a somewhat larger number of our cultural and educational programs around China are being postponed or canceled, but we haven’t been notified by Chinese authorities of any specific reason,” said one diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

69 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:39:18pm

re: #31 Charles

Apparently Choudary links to that website, so it's probably his. He's playing the anti-Muslim nutjobs like violins.

THIS. I wonder how many new recruits the jihadis will gets out of these recent videos?

People like Choudry who have been born & raised in the West (and others who have lived here for years) understand how our society works and how Westerners think far better than we understand how Islamic societies work and how Muslims think.

As you've said numerous times before, while all these wingnut clowns and their hate-filled radical Islamist counterparts are turning everything into a 3-ring circus, the very real & serious terrorist threat can barely be seen or heard these days thanks to the constant hysterical pandemonium.

I see where it's coming from. People are afraid and they want a simple, tidy answer. Something along the lines of: Okay, it's Islam. There's something inherently evil & violent about Islam, so if we can just obliterate it, then the problem will go away and we don't have to be fearful any more. Sorry, but IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. Things that involve human beings never are.

It's magical thinking, just like imagining that if we had a different President, or the GOP was in charge, or Obamacare was repealed, or abortion outlawed, or all the illegal immigrants were somehow expelled, etcetera ad inifnitum, then the world would magically right itself: gas would be cheap, everyone would have a good job, yada, yada, yada, we'd all live happily ever after.

THERE IS NO MAGIC, there is only us humans and our brains. God isn't gonna fix it for us. Neither is Jesus. Or the GOP. Or the Tea Party. GET A FUCKING GRIP, AMERICA.

Okay, I'm supposed to be working... *sigh*

70 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:40:46pm

re: #69 CuriousLurker

THIS. I wonder how many new recruits the jihadis will gets out of these recent videos?

People like Choudry who have been born & raised in the West (and others who have lived here for years) understand how our society works and how Westerners think far better than we understand how Islamic societies work and how Muslims think.

As you've said numerous times before, while all these wingnut clowns and their hate-filled radical Islamist counterparts are turning everything into a 3-ring circus, the very real & serious terrorist threat can barely be seen or heard these days thanks to the constant hysterical pandemonium.

I see where it's coming from. People are afraid and they want a simple, tidy answer. Something along the lines of: Okay, it's Islam. There's something inherently evil & violent about Islam, so if we can just obliterate it, then the problem will go away and we don't have to be fearful any more. Sorry, but IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. Things that involve human beings never are.

It's magical thinking, just like imagining that if we had a different President, or the GOP was in charge, or Obamacare was repealed, or abortion outlawed, or all the illegal immigrants were somehow expelled, etcetera ad inifnitum, then the world would magically right itself: gas would be cheap, everyone would have a good job, yada, yada, yada, we'd all live happily ever after.

THERE IS NO MAGIC, there is only us humans and our brains. God isn't gonna fix it for us. Neither is Jesus. Or the GOP. Or the Tea Party. GET A FUCKING GRIP, AMERICA.

Okay, I'm supposed to be working... *sigh*

Quoted for truth. You are not the first nor will you be the last poster here to write exactly along these lines.

71 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:41:55pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, I can see that Libya is over now. Ghadaffi said he would let Chavez mediate the talks. Glad thats over now.
///

How many mediators does it take to make up a battalion ?

72 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:42:46pm

Ivory Coast on brink of civil war as seven women killed at protest march

Seven women have been massacred during a peaceful protest in Ivory Coast as the country appeared to stand on the brink of all-out civil war.

More than 200,000 people have fled, and the nation that was once a model of stability in west Africa is now experiencing bloodshed and economic meltdown.

The women's demonstration became a scene of terror when security forces opened fire with machine guns in Abobo, a sprawling, impoverished suburb of the commercial capital, Abidjan, where some of the deadliest clashes have taken place during three months of crisis.

They were about to set off from a roundabout on a march to call on Laurent Gbagbo to step down as president. "Men in uniform drove up and started shooting randomly. Six women died on the spot," Idrissa Diarrassouba told Reuters. A seventh died in hospital. Many others were wounded.

73 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:43:03pm

re: #70 LudwigVanQuixote

Quoted for truth. You are not the first nor will you be the last poster here to write exactly along these lines.

It's truly exasperating. It really is.

74 Simply Sarah  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:43:58pm

re: #68 lawhawk

And the Chinese government is keeping even closer tabs on foreign journalists (and foreigners in general) than before. They're hoping to stop any protests before they rise to the level uprisings seen in the Middle East and North Africa:

They seem absolutely terrified by what is currently going on there. I guess it hits a bit too close to home for them (Even thought I don't think there's nearly the level of popular disapproval in China, plus the fact that there isn't one single individual that is seen as basically being the government).

75 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:47:19pm

re: #73 CuriousLurker

Choudary really has no popular support, and very few followers even in Britain. He's kind of a professional wrestler bad guy version of a radical Muslim, cartoonishly exaggerated. I don't know if he does it just for publicity or if he gets some kind of financial payoff. But he's also living on the dole in Britain.

76 albusteve  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:47:33pm

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ivory Coast on brink of civil war as seven women killed at protest march

just kill your own...Africa's legacy to the world

77 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:48:17pm

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
Man, I love the Onion so much.

78 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:48:37pm

re: #69 CuriousLurker

Shorter version: anti-Muslim bigots are al-Qaeda's best friends.

79 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:49:37pm

re: #76 albusteve

just kill your own...Africa's legacy to the world

Thats been pretty much the legacy of most of human civilizations.

80 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:50:11pm

I gotta agree with Hillary on this one...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:51:17pm

re: #80 brookly red

I gotta agree with Hillary on this one...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

We influence revolutions, they influence revolutions, seems like a thing countries do

82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:52:19pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
Man, I love the Onion so much.

I sorta want to know where that guy on the left is now

83 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:52:57pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

We influence revolutions, they influence revolutions, seems like a thing countries do


True that, but they seem to be better at it than us & I hate that!

84 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:53:20pm

OK I gotta walk the dogs....

Home now.

By the way...

If you haven't checked out yet,

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

please do.

85 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:53:21pm

Open-Minded Man Grimly Realizes How Much Life He's Wasted Listening To Bullshit

During an unexpected moment of clarity Tuesday, open-minded man Blake Richman was suddenly struck by the grim realization that he's squandered a significant portion of his life listening to everyone's bullshit, the 38-year-old told reporters.

A visibly stunned and solemn Richman, who until this point regarded his willingness to hear out the opinions of others as a worthwhile quality, estimated that he's wasted nearly three and a half years of his existence being open to people's half-formed thoughts, asinine suggestions, and pointless, dumbfuck stories.

"Jesus Christ," said Richman, taking in the overwhelming volume of useless crap he's actively listened to over the years. "My whole life I've made a concerted effort to give people a fair shake and understand different points of view because I felt that everyone had something valuable to offer, but it turns out most of what they had to offer was complete bullshit."

86 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:53:49pm

I'll be back in a few hours.

87 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:54:24pm

re: #86 LudwigVanQuixote

I'll be back in a few hours.

Later dude.

88 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:54:42pm

re: #75 Charles

Choudary really has no popular support, and very few followers even in Britain. He's kind of a professional wrestler bad guy version of a radical Muslim, cartoonishly exaggerated. I don't know if he does it just for publicity or if he gets some kind of financial payoff. But he's also living on the dole in Britain.

Yeah, he kinda strikes me as the Muslim male counterpart of the Shrieking Harpy (but with a smaller fan club, thank goodness).

Same magical thinking too. If we bring back the caliphate and make everyone Muslim, everything will be fine!

89 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:56:02pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Yeah, he kinda strikes me as the Muslim male counterpart of the Shrieking Harpy (but with a smaller fan club, thank goodness).

Same magical thinking too. If we bring back the caliphate and make everyone Muslim, everything will be fine!

/maybe a cage match on pay per view?

90 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:56:11pm

re: #82 WindUpBird

I sorta want to know where that guy on the left is now

Heh I dunno. I am telling you, the satirical news does often a better job than real news of explaining what's going on in the world. Like for instance while I've always like Stephen Colbert, I've preferred Jon Stewart but after seeing Stephen interview the New Yorker's China correspondent and subsequent discussion in lecture I realized just how awesome Stephen is.

91 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:56:46pm

re: #78 Sergey Romanov

Shorter version: anti-Muslim bigots are al-Qaeda's best friends.

Heh, eggzactly!

//The top of my head was in danger of blowing off and making a mess all over the ceiling if I didn't let out that rant.

92 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:57:32pm

I'm amused how my description of my day as explanation about why the Sharia paranoia has gotten ten dings heh. Good old beer, you never fail me.

93 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:58:56pm

My feline overlords are making it crystal clear that it's way past lunchtime. BBL

94 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:59:57pm

here's an other one, Hooray beer!

95 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:00:20pm

re: #93 CuriousLurker

My feline overlords are making it crystal clear that it's way past lunchtime. BBL

The animal rebellion is communicating telepathically. Dog walking--BBL.

96 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:01:37pm

re: #95 Decatur Deb

The animal rebellion is communicating telepathically. Dog walking--BBL.

watch out for the pigeons...

97 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:01:59pm

Charles, my comments in Pages go into ether, e.g.:

Sergey Romanov3/03/11 1:59:39 pm

Comment for article:

Exactly. Pop celebrities are such pop celebrities.

Started happening after the preview feature was enforced.

98 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:02:07pm

re: #93 CuriousLurker

My feline overlords are making it crystal clear that it's way past lunchtime. BBL

Now with thumbs

Youtube Video
99 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:03:11pm

BBL.

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:04:59pm

note to self: do not load half-gig file in temperamental japanese art app when five other canvases are open

101 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:05:51pm

re: #100 WindUpBird

note to self: do not load half-gig file in temperamental japanese art app when five other canvases are open

Important safety tip. Thanks Egon.

102 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:06:09pm

re: #101 Girth

Important safety tip. Thanks Egon.

Yes, have some!

103 brennant  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:06:28pm

re: #101 Girth

Important safety tip. Thanks Egon.

That would be bad.

104 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:07:25pm

re: #103 brennant

That would be bad.

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing.

105 brennant  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:07:40pm

re: #104 Girth

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing.

Total protonic reversal.

106 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:07:41pm

Thank God!!! And I'd personally like to extend my gratitude for this momentous occasion to Pam Geller, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck. Think where we'd all be without them.

107 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:08:21pm

re: #105 brennant

Total protonic reversal.

That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me

108 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:10:03pm

If a ban of Sharia means no more halal meat at the kabob places, I am going to seriously go sharia on someone's ass :D.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:11:17pm

re: #100 WindUpBird

note to self: do not load half-gig file in temperamental japanese art app when five other canvases are open

Does a giant "Hello Kitty" image come up when you do that?

110 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:13:04pm

re: #107 WindUpBird

That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me

Ok, so she's a dog?!

111 theheat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:13:18pm

I'm more worried about a zombie apocalypse than a Sharia takeover any time soon. But the fundies will get us before the zombies come. That's a given. And they're much harder to dispatch than zombies.

112 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:13:38pm

re: #109 oaktree

Does a giant "Hello Kitty" image come up when you do that?

[Link: www.google.com...]

sorry i had too...

113 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:13:40pm

re: #109 oaktree

Does a giant "Hello Kitty" image come up when you do that?

It's Badtz-maru, when you break the canvas, he just shows up in a dialog box, screams profanity in japanese and then dildos fill the screen

114 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:13:59pm

re: #110 rwdflynavy

Ok, so she's a dog?!

"The nice woman...who paid us in advance...before she became a dog."

115 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:14:39pm

So be good for goodness sake! Somebody's coming!

116 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:14:53pm

Wait for the sign. Then all prisoners will be released!

...


You will perish in flames!

117 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:14:56pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

"The nice woman...who paid us in advance...before she became a dog."

She’s not my girlfriend. I find her interesting because she’s a client and because she sleeps above her covers… four feet above her covers.

118 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:15:18pm

re: #111 theheat

I'm more worried about a zombie apocalypse than a Sharia takeover any time soon. But the fundies will get us before the zombies come. That's a given. And they're much harder to dispatch than zombies.

It depends, are these Muslim zombies? Because if i am going to be killed by a zombie, it had better be one who recongizes Jesus Christ as the lord and savior. No way in hell am I letting no Muslim zombie try to implement Sharia law on me while he eats my brains. :)

119 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:15:37pm

re: #111 theheat

I'm more worried about a zombie apocalypse than a Sharia takeover any time soon. But the fundies will get us before the zombies come. That's a given. And they're much harder to dispatch than zombies.

Absolutely. I have a zombie plan. I do not have a sharia plan, nor do I feel the need to draw one up.

120 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:15:50pm

If someone asks if you are a god, you say, "yes!"

121 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:15:59pm

Have a good evening folks. Off for a beer or two to celebrate a co-worker heading back down to Brazil.

122 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:16:27pm

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

123 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:16:39pm

re: #120 rwdflynavy

Everyone has three mortgages these days!

124 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:17:21pm

re: #123 WindUpBird

Everyone has three mortgages these days!

We've been going about this all wrong. This Mr. Stay Puft's okay! He's a sailor, he's in New York; we get this guy laid, we won't have any trouble!

125 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:17:57pm

re: #122 rwdflynavy

symmetrical book stacking! Just like the Philadelphia Mass Turbulence of 47!


'Right, ray. No human being...would stack books like this."

126 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:18:24pm

re: #125 WindUpBird

symmetrical book stacking! Just like the Philadelphia Mass Turbulence of 47!


'Right, ray. No human being...would stack books like this."

Sorry, Venkman, I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

127 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:18:25pm

re: #124 rwdflynavy

I think we've memorized the entire script, that's why i can't remember phone numbers

128 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:18:48pm

Ray, the sponges moved about a foot and a half.

129 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:18:59pm

re: #128 Girth

Ray, the sponges moved about a foot and a half.

Listen... do you smell something?

130 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:19:15pm

re: #127 WindUpBird

I think we've memorized the entire script, that's why i can't remember phone numbers

867-5309

131 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:19:20pm

re: #119 Girth

Absolutely. I have a zombie plan. I do not have a sharia plan, nor do I feel the need to draw one up.

sharia zombies... sound like a band.

132 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:19:51pm

re: #131 brookly red

sharia zombies... sound like a band.

Do they only eat halal brainssssssss?//

133 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:20:08pm

Normally, we're quoting Monty Python...

Or Airplane!...

Or Bioshock...

Or Blazing Saddles...

Or...damn, maybe this is why I keep coming to LGF, because I'm amongst fellow nerds.

134 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:20:19pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

It depends, are these Muslim zombies? Because if i am going to be killed by a zombie, it had better be one who recongizes Jesus Christ as the lord and savior. No way in hell am I letting no Muslim zombie try to implement Sharia law on me while he eats my brains. :)

Jesus was a zombie, think about it, he was dead and came back to life!

Youtube Video
135 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:20:37pm

re: #131 brookly red

sharia zombies... sound like a band.

Great name for a punk band.

136 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:21:06pm

re: #133 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

my wife watched blazing saddles for the first time the other night and now I am introducing her to the greatness that is bruce campbell.

137 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:21:31pm

re: #132 rwdflynavy

Do they only eat halal brainsss?//

I am suddenly craving falafel...

138 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:22:42pm

re: #136 Dreggas

my wife watched blazing saddles for the first time the other night and now I am introducing her to the greatness that is bruce campbell.

Groovy.

139 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:22:50pm

re: #135 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Great name for a punk band.

I think I heard about a 80's punk band called Reagan Youth. And because of the Onion and their love for poking fun at Joe Biden, I am calling my band the Joe Biden Experience.

140 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:23:06pm

Good Afternoon Lizards
I wish to report the strange disappearance of my hopes and dreams...
/

141 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:23:58pm

re: #134 Dreggas

Jesus was a zombie, think about it, he was dead and came back to life!


[Video]

Ah yeah. Religion is a strange thing when you think about it. A naked chick talking to a snake in a garden for instance. Hmmmm.

142 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:24:01pm

re: #136 Dreggas

my wife watched blazing saddles for the first time the other night and now I am introducing her to the greatness that is bruce campbell.

Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?

143 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:24:12pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

I think I heard about a 80's punk band called Reagan Youth. And because of the Onion and their love for poking fun at Joe Biden, I am calling my band the Joe Biden Experience.

Excellent! if you forget the words people will think it's part of the act!

144 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:27:53pm

re: #143 brookly red

Excellent! if you forget the words people will think it's part of the act!

Yep, and it wouldn't be hard for me to do since I'd have terrible stage fright and forget all the words immediately.

145 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:29:03pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Yep, and it wouldn't be hard for me to do since I'd have terrible stage fright and forget all the words immediately.

you can't name your album "greatest gaffs"

146 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:29:57pm

re: #145 brookly red

you can't name your album "greatest gaffs"

I'd name it "A Bunch of Shit" but that's just me.

147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:30:20pm

re: #142 rwdflynavy

Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?

have that one coming on DvD this week, we watched Evil Dead and My Name Is Bruce the other night.

148 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:31:32pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

I'd name it "A Bunch of Shit" but that's just me.

/I think the Dead Kennedys already did that...

149 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:32:13pm

re: #147 Dreggas

have that one coming on DvD this week, we watched Evil Dead and My Name Is Bruce the other night.

Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.

150 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:32:14pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I've had naked chicks find a snake in my garden before... uh-huh-huh

151 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:32:39pm

re: #147 Dreggas

have that one coming on DvD this week, we watched Evil Dead and My Name Is Bruce the other night.

3 words, Brisco County Junior

152 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:34:59pm

re: #150 Dreggas

I've had naked chicks find a snake in my garden before... uh-huh-huh

Ah, someone knows where my mind is going with this.

153 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:35:06pm

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

3 words, Brisco County Junior

and his appearances in Xena Warrior princess and burn notice.

154 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:35:48pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Ah, someone knows where my mind is going with this.

hey, this is my gutter! go find yer own

155 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:36:16pm

So apparently Newt didn't launch an exploratory committee today, he launched a website newtexplore2012.com to raise money in order to explore the possibility of exploring the possibility of running for president. What a fucking scam.

156 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:36:40pm

re: #154 brookly red

hey, this is my gutter! go find yer own

Stop messing around up there.

157 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:37:10pm

well, we're very lucky the pro sharia protest march didn't happen. I can envision a scenario in which such a demonstration would shut down the government. We can obviously never allow a Sharia demonstration to shut down the government.

158 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:37:52pm

re: #155 Girth

So apparently Newt didn't launch an exploratory committee today, he launched a website newtexplore2012.com to raise money in order to explore the possibility of exploring the possibility of running for president. What a fucking scam.

The Socons have already spoken out that he wont get their support.

159 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:39:09pm

re: #155 Girth

So apparently Newt didn't launch an exploratory committee today, he launched a website newtexplore2012.com to raise money in order to explore the possibility of exploring the possibility of running for president. What a fucking scam.

It's going to be fun to see Newt pontificate about values in any case. What was it that Barnum said? A sucker born every minute?

160 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:41:10pm

I wonder when the teabaggers will realize that the real welfare queens are people like Newt and Sarah who have been living off of their donations for years.

161 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:41:34pm

Gingrich Declares Need For More Lying, Arrogance, and Downright Repulsiveness In GOP Presidential Field

signals intention to run

Will Work Hard To Fatally Wound Eventual GOP Nominee

162 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:42:07pm

"If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future...... that's a debate I'll be happy to have." - Newt Gingrich

So Newt, when do you plan to dump your third wife for a newer model?

163 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:43:27pm

re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future... that's a debate I'll be happy to have." - Newt Gingrich

So Newt, when do you plan to dump your third wife for a newer model?

Well, Newt, I assume you would be basing your candidacy on your, um, past services as House Speaker. So that part of your past is OK?

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:45:09pm

re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future... that's a debate I'll be happy to have." - Newt Gingrich

So Newt, when do you plan to dump your third wife for a newer model?

RUN NEWT

PLEASE RUN


PLEASE RUN

165 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:45:16pm

re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future... that's a debate I'll be happy to have." - Newt Gingrich

So Newt, when do you plan to dump your third wife for a newer model?

"Let's not talk about individual people that I may have fucked in the past. Let's talk about how I want to fuck the American people in the future."

166 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:45:34pm

re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future... that's a debate I'll be happy to have." - Newt Gingrich

Lol, nice logic bomb there, Newt.

167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:46:10pm

re: #166 Varek Raith

Lol, nice logic bomb there, Newt.

WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LOOK AT MY RECORD

168 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:46:21pm

Newt: Douchebaggery we can believe in.

169 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:46:40pm

re: #167 WindUpBird

WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LOOK AT MY RECORD

or call my ex wives :).

170 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:46:48pm

re: #167 WindUpBird

WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LOOK AT MY RECORD

Unless it's my record of the past of me doing good things or something!

171 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:47:00pm

Speaking of religious zealots and fanatical haters:

Randall Terry Says Terry Jones 'Blinked' On Koran Burning

Anti-abortion rights activist Randall Terry and anti-Islam Rev. Terry Jones -- undoubtably two of slickest self-promoting crusaders for their respective causes -- ran into one another outside the White House on Thursday, where Terry said the pastor "blinked" on his plan to burn copies of the Koran.

"You should'a burned the Korans by the way, you blinked. You should'a burned them," Terry said.

Jones may have another shot. An associate of Rev. Jones told Terry that the pastor's organization had a "International Judge the Koran" event scheduled for March 20.

"We're going to put it on trial, judge it," he said. If the people on his website vote to burn the Koran, they'll do it.

172 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:47:37pm

Palin And Gingrich Plan To Run, Suck Up All GOP Oxygen

all other gop candidates found asphyxiated in iowa motel

173 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:48:32pm

The only time I can recall that Bryan Fischer said something I even remotely agree with:

Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries. But the issue before the nation is not his fitness for heaven but his fitness for the Oval Office. His fitness for heaven is an issue between him and his God. His fitness for the presidency is between him and the American people.

174 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:48:32pm

re: #163 Bulworth

Well, Newt, I assume you would be basing your candidacy on your, um, past services as House Speaker. So that part of your past is OK?

on face value you would think that being house speaker would make some one a contender for the presidency... but I can't think of one I would vote for*

* too early to make the call about Boehner

175 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:49:32pm

re: #171 Lidane

Speaking of religious zealots and fanatical haters:

Randall Terry Says Terry Jones 'Blinked' On Koran Burning

I'm sure the hackers will love getting a hold of that online poll.

176 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:49:39pm

re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future... my candidacy will still be irrelevant." - Newt Gingrich

Fixed that for ya, Newt.

I hope he runs. He'll get crucified as the pompous, hypocritical windbag he's always been.

177 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:50:08pm

re: #174 brookly red


* too early to make the call about Boehner

Its a hard one.

178 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:50:10pm

Gingrich/Palin 2012: Fat, Drunk, And Stupid Is No Way to Go Through Life.

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:50:25pm

re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The only time I can recall that Bryan Fischer said something I even remotely agree with:

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but how does Bryan Fischer know whether God has forgiven Newt or not?

180 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:51:02pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but how does Bryan Fischer know whether God has forgiven Newt or not?

The check didn't bounce.

181 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:51:08pm

re: #174 brookly red

Why would anyone vote Boehner for President? So we can finally give the Orange American bloc someone they can relate to?

182 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:51:22pm

re: #177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its a hard one.

good one Beavis

183 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:51:29pm

re: #171 Lidane

Speaking of religious zealots and fanatical haters:

Randall Terry Says Terry Jones 'Blinked' On Koran Burning

Another paradigm of moral excellence, Mr. Randall Terry who disowns his own children if they're gay. I really hope he follows through with his promise and runs for president in the Democratic primary. Let the sob waste money.

184 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:51:36pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but how does Bryan Fischer know whether God has forgiven Newt or not?

Because Bryan with a "y" talks to The Big Man Upstairs directly. Isn't that obvious?

185 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:52:17pm

re: #182 brookly red

good one Beavis

I was going to make a comment about low hanging fruits, thought better of it, then said fuck it and went ahead anyways.

186 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:52:21pm

re: #178 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Gingrich/Palin 2012: Fat, Drunk, And Stupid Is No Way to Go Through Life.

Heh.

187 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:52:51pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but how does Bryan Fischer know whether God has forgiven Newt or not?

It's tough to say. I did hear Newt is no longer a Baptist and now is a Catholic. That may count more against him than the hypocrisy in some circles.

188 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:52:57pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but how does Bryan Fischer know whether God has forgiven Newt or not?

God told me that he hasn't a clue about what Fischer is talking about.

189 albusteve  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:54:42pm

Newt fucked up....he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see....ultimately the joke's on you

190 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:55:18pm

re: #188 Varek Raith

God told me that he hasn't a clue about what Fischer is talking about.

Which one were you talking to?

Seriously though, one persons personal beliefs are their own. I could careless if Newt is right with God, thats between him and God. What matters is how he treats people and his track record there is shit.

191 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:55:51pm

re: #189 albusteve

Newt fucked up...he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see...ultimately the joke's on you

Twice.

192 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:56:14pm

re: #189 albusteve

Newt fucked up...he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see...ultimately the joke's on you

shit, so what am I gonna do with all these stones>

193 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:56:46pm

re: #191 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Twice.

And he continues to be a moralizing prick talking about how secularism is ruining America. I am not saying I'm a perfect person but I find Newt's moralizing pathetic.

194 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:58:30pm

re: #191 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Twice.

And he still fancies himself a moral crusader pushing his beliefs on others. Beliefs he breaks.
Sorry, I ain't leaving him alone.

195 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 2:59:00pm

re: #189 albusteve

Everyone has moral failings.

Thing is, we're not running for POTUS and presenting ourselves as pure, God, fearing Christians and moralists. Newt is. Ergo, he's getting rightly criticized for it.

196 TedStriker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:00:01pm

re: #69 CuriousLurker

THIS. I wonder how many new recruits the jihadis will gets out of these recent videos?

People like Choudry who have been born & raised in the West (and others who have lived here for years) understand how our society works and how Westerners think far better than we understand how Islamic societies work and how Muslims think.

As you've said numerous times before, while all these wingnut clowns and their hate-filled radical Islamist counterparts are turning everything into a 3-ring circus, the very real & serious terrorist threat can barely be seen or heard these days thanks to the constant hysterical pandemonium.

I see where it's coming from. People are afraid and they want a simple, tidy answer. Something along the lines of: Okay, it's Islam. There's something inherently evil & violent about Islam, so if we can just obliterate it, then the problem will go away and we don't have to be fearful any more. Sorry, but IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. Things that involve human beings never are.

It's magical thinking, just like imagining that if we had a different President, or the GOP was in charge, or Obamacare was repealed, or abortion outlawed, or all the illegal immigrants were somehow expelled, etcetera ad inifnitum, then the world would magically right itself: gas would be cheap, everyone would have a good job, yada, yada, yada, we'd all live happily ever after.

THERE IS NO MAGIC, there is only us humans and our brains. God isn't gonna fix it for us. Neither is Jesus. Or the GOP. Or the Tea Party. GET A FUCKING GRIP, AMERICA.

Okay, I'm supposed to be working... *sigh*

QFMFT, CL...

197 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:00:12pm

I might not be perfect, but have I mentioned that I'm immense and immortal lately?

198 albusteve  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:00:56pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

And he continues to be a moralizing prick talking about how secularism is ruining America. I am not saying I'm a perfect person but I find Newt's moralizing pathetic.

it is, I agree...but hearing it over and over is just so redundant it's more than boring....trying so hard to express the same idea endlessly just bogs down the thread....say it and be done with it

199 justaminute  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:01:05pm

Even Iran can't practice Sharia correctly. They pervert it and tell the people that only they (the government) can discern true Sharia.

Incorrect Sharia:

Yesterday Iran started making people remove their satellite dishes. If you don't turn in your dish you will have to pay a $5,000 fine (equivalent) and serve one year in prison. They will pay informers $2,500 to rat out their neighbors. This is not an example, this is unfortunately true.

Correct Sharia:

When the court grants a divorce and custody of the children when the wife has been beaten by her husband. That's the correct way but alas rarely happens.

200 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:01:08pm

re: #189 albusteve

Newt fucked up...he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see...ultimately the joke's on you

He not so much admitted he fucked up as admitted he got caught, then immediately "got religion" so that he could declare that God had "forgiven him."

I look on Newt like I look on death row inmates who "found God" in prison, namely that it's nice and all that they realized how wrong their sins were, but it would have meant more had they found this out before they committed them.

201 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:02:03pm

re: #189 albusteve

Newt fucked up...he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see...ultimately the joke's on you

Myself, I don't give two shits about Newt's personal life. It has zero bearing as to why I won't vote for him. I just find it one of life's delicious little ironies that the people whose support he absolutely must have in order to win care a whole lot.

202 garhighway  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:02:29pm

re: #189 albusteve

Newt fucked up...he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see...ultimately the joke's on you

I think Newt has lost any pretense to moral authority and ought to go home and shut the fuck up.

I feel exactly the same way about John Edwards.

It ain't about me being perfect. I'm most certainly not. It is about them knowing when they have lost the right to tell us what to do.

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:03:07pm

re: #189 albusteve

Newt fucked up...he admitted he fucked up, so be it...
there are a lot of perfect people slamming him here I see...ultimately the joke's on you

A lot of people cheat on their wives. I'm more concerned if he's made it right with his family than if he's made it right with God, but that's not the issue.

I wouldn't vote for Newt anyway, so that's not really an issue either.

What is an issue for me is a. assholes like Fischer falling all over themselves to forgive the sins of people they like politically, as though fucking Bryan Fischer spoke for God.

Also, frankly, every time Newt shows up, he's tryin' to impeach another Democratic president over bullshit, which has not endeared him to me.

204 albusteve  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:04:06pm

re: #195 Lidane

Everyone has moral failings.

Thing is, we're not running for POTUS and presenting ourselves as pure, God, fearing Christians and moralists. Newt is. Ergo, he's getting rightly criticized for it.

I was criticizing Newt before you were ever registered...it's hardly a new meme

205 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:04:26pm

re: #202 garhighway

I would love for John Edwards to try the repentance card. It would make it that much easier and far more satisfying to tell him to sit down and STFU.

206 garhighway  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:05:16pm

re: #205 Lidane

I would love for John Edwards to try the repentance card. It would make it that much easier and far more satisfying to tell him to sit down and STFU.

I think he should shave his head, too.

207 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:06:33pm

re: #205 Lidane

I would love for John Edwards to try the repentance card. It would make it that much easier and far more satisfying to tell him to sit down and STFU.

rumor is he is about to get indited

208 garhighway  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:06:58pm

re: #207 brookly red

rumor is he is about to get indited

Good.

209 albusteve  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:07:44pm

re: #207 brookly red

rumor is he is about to get indited

yup, the feds have been on his ass over campaign spending....he's toast

210 Girth  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:08:05pm

Why is it that Newt and Santorum got booted off of Fox but Huckabee got a pass?

211 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:08:11pm

re: #208 garhighway

Good.

yeah, I don't advise him to let it go to a jury...

212 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:09:00pm

re: #210 Girth

Why is it that Newt and Santorum got booted off of Fox but Huckabee got a pass?

there is no conflict till you declare your intentions

213 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:09:14pm

"Harvard to let ROTC on campus after 41 years"[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

214 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:09:33pm

re: #209 albusteve

yup, the feds have been on his ass over campaign spending...he's toast

melba toast at that

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:10:05pm

re: #212 brookly red

there is no conflict till you declare your intentions

Have Newt and Santorum actually declared at this point?

(Sooner or later, someone is going to have to run for the GOP nomination. I think.)

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:10:23pm

re: #214 brookly red

melba toast at that

My grandpa's first wife's name was Melba.

217 albusteve  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:10:36pm

re: #203 SanFranciscoZionist

A lot of people cheat on their wives. I'm more concerned if he's made it right with his family than if he's made it right with God, but that's not the issue.

I wouldn't vote for Newt anyway, so that's not really an issue either.

What is an issue for me is a. assholes like Fischer falling all over themselves to forgive the sins of people they like politically, as though fucking Bryan Fischer spoke for God.

Also, frankly, every time Newt shows up, he's tryin' to impeach another Democratic president over bullshit, which has not endeared him to me.

people get so shook up over meaningless shit....look at the Kennedy's and all their unsavory behavior, and they were worshipped....it comes and it goes, Newt is hardly special in that regard

218 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:11:43pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

Have Newt and Santorum actually declared at this point?

(Sooner or later, someone is going to have to run for the GOP nomination. I think.)

some legal standard or another... I think forming a PAC is the trigger but I could be wrong

219 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:12:20pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

My grandpa's first wife's name was Melba.

it's a nice name...

220 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:14:27pm

re: #218 brookly red

some legal standard or another... I think forming a PAC is the trigger but I could be wrong

Probably has to do with campaign law. IIRC, any news channel that gives time to one candidate has to give equal time to all candidates. So, as long as they don't declare, they get all the free publicity they want. The moment they declare, the Fox brass have to let them go.

221 blueraven  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:16:28pm

re: #218 brookly red

some legal standard or another... I think forming a PAC is the trigger but I could be wrong

Like SarahPac? I dont think that is the standard. I honestly dont know how Newt and Santorum are any different from Sarah and Huckabee.

222 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:16:46pm

re: #220 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Probably has to do with campaign law. IIRC, any news channel that gives time to one candidate has to give equal time to all candidates. So, as long as they don't declare, they get all the free publicity they want. The moment they declare, the Fox brass have to let them go.

yes. the donation of media time is something that has been abused in the past. (Que Steve)

223 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:17:57pm

re: #221 blueraven

Like SarahPac? I dont think that is the standard. I honestly dont know how Newt and Santorum are any different from Sarah and Huckabee.

I don't honestly know... is there a lawyer in the house?

224 garhighway  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:18:31pm

re: #221 blueraven

Like SarahPac? I dont think that is the standard. I honestly dont know how Newt and Santorum are any different from Sarah and Huckabee.

The Fox statement doesn't say that, either. It says that they have "signaled possible runs for the Presidency".

It's a mystery.

225 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:19:24pm

re: #223 brookly red

I don't honestly know... is there a lawyer in the house?

I believe it has to do with forming the actual exploratory committee versus just a political action committee.

226 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:19:40pm

re: #224 garhighway

The Fox statement doesn't say that, either. It says that they have "signaled possible runs for the Presidency".

It's a mystery.

maybe it is they that don't want the Fox association? who knows

227 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:20:33pm

re: #225 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I believe it has to do with forming the actual exploratory committee versus just a political action committee.

that could be it

228 blueraven  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:20:39pm

re: #225 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I believe it has to do with forming the actual exploratory committee versus just a political action committee.

I think you are right.

229 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:23:57pm

I think the exp committees is the issue. Using process of elimination, I don't think it's the PAC issue since as pointed out already Palin has had Sarah PAC and even recently appointed a chief of staff for it. Didn't know Santorum established an exploratory committee though. Is it just me though but there really doesn't seem to be much diversity amongst the candidates. Like in 2008 you had an interesting mix: Giuliani (social moderate-liberal, econ conservative, foreign policy hawk), McCain(moderate conservative), Huckabee(so con), Romney (business con), Paul (Whatever he really is), and others. Just seems to be a bunch of hardcore so cons other than Romney and Romney has been trying to convince him that he's one of them ever since his change of mind on abortion and gay rights.

230 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:24:02pm

re: #217 albusteve

people get so shook up over meaningless shit...look at the Kennedy's and all their unsavory behavior, and they were worshipped...it comes and it goes, Newt is hardly special in that regard

Newt is indeed, a garden-variety, moral-values-mouthing hypocrite.

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:24:49pm

re: #218 brookly red

some legal standard or another... I think forming a PAC is the trigger but I could be wrong

I think you can have a PAC without declaring to run. Hasn't Sarah Palin had one for a few years now?

232 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:25:19pm

re: #230 SanFranciscoZionist

Newt is indeed, a garden-variety, moral-values-mouthing hypocrite.

He's a blood-sucking varmint.

233 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:25:56pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

I think you can have a PAC without declaring to run. Hasn't Sarah Palin had one for a few years now?

Actually, I think the Bard of Wasilla just started her PAC maybe a month ago.

234 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:26:44pm

re: #233 Kid A

Actually, I think the Bard of Wasilla just started her PAC maybe a month ago.

Started in 2009, per Wiki.

235 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:27:16pm

re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist

Started in 2009, per Wiki.

You beat me to it. I just found it.

236 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:27:20pm

OT but just have to say I am loving Rift.

237 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:27:34pm

re: #233 Kid A

Actually, I think the Bard of Wasilla just started her PAC maybe a month ago.

I thought Sarah PAC had been around for a while. By the way, I always love seeing what people name their PACs. I think he's a bigot but Tom Tancredo has the best name of any PAC, it's called Team America and I don't think it's a coinciddence that he used a South Park reference. He's from Colorado just like Trey Parker and Matt Stone and I think even from the same part.

238 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:28:08pm

re: #236 Dreggas

OT but just have to say I am loving Rift.

Dawn of War: Retribution is amazing.

239 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:28:44pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

I thought Sarah PAC had been around for a while. By the way, I always love seeing what people name their PACs. I think he's a bigot but Tom Tancredo has the best name of any PAC, it's called Team America and I don't think it's a coinciddence that he used a South Park reference. He's from Colorado just like Trey Parker and Matt Stone and I think even from the same part.

err not South Park reference but you get my point. That movie is hilarious though. Some of my more uptight liberal aquaintences didn't think so but way I look at it, gotta laugh at yourself before you can laugh at others.

240 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:28:46pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

I thought Sarah PAC had been around for a while. By the way, I always love seeing what people name their PACs. I think he's a bigot but Tom Tancredo has the best name of any PAC, it's called Team America and I don't think it's a coinciddence that he used a South Park reference. He's from Colorado just like Trey Parker and Matt Stone and I think even from the same part.

That's hilarious! Why didn't he name it Fedupwithmexicans PAC?
///

241 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:29:05pm

re: #238 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dawn of War: Retribution is amazing.

is that like payback is a bitch?

242 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:29:53pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

I think the exp committees is the issue. Using process of elimination, I don't think it's the PAC issue since as pointed out already Palin has had Sarah PAC and even recently appointed a chief of staff for it. Didn't know Santorum established an exploratory committee though. Is it just me though but there really doesn't seem to be much diversity amongst the candidates. Like in 2008 you had an interesting mix: Giuliani (social moderate-liberal, econ conservative, foreign policy hawk), McCain(moderate conservative), Huckabee(so con), Romney (business con), Paul (Whatever he really is), and others. Just seems to be a bunch of hardcore so cons other than Romney and Romney has been trying to convince him that he's one of them ever since his change of mind on abortion and gay rights.

It's still early. I've heard rumors that Rudy's contemplating another run, along with Romney. Paul's a definite run, considering the supposed power that his branch of the Tea Party has got going, but you can could McCain out. Another rumor going around is that Jon Huntsman will seek the nomination, with the few pundits I've heard talking about him saying he has a strong chance, but is going to have an interesting time explaining why he was willing to work for Obama before he sought to replace the guy.

243 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:30:38pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

I thought Sarah PAC had been around for a while. By the way, I always love seeing what people name their PACs. I think he's a bigot but Tom Tancredo has the best name of any PAC, it's called Team America and I don't think it's a coinciddence that he used a South Park reference. He's from Colorado just like Trey Parker and Matt Stone and I think even from the same part.

/mark my words, we have not seen the last of Tancredo...

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:31:14pm

re: #243 brookly red

/mark my words, we have not seen the last of Tancredo...

I'm quite sure about that.

I don't think he's going anywhere, and I mean that in both senses.

245 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:32:11pm

re: #240 Kid A

That's hilarious! Why didn't he name it Fedupwithmexicans PAC?
///

now I want chelies rellenios... phuc!

246 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:32:28pm

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

but i'm not forgiving him his childishnesses or his adolescentries, nor his adulteries

247 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:33:13pm

re: #243 brookly red

/mark my words, we have not seen the last of Tancredo...


Well it depends. I don't think he's done running for office but as a viable candidate for higher than Congress positions, I think he is. He lost by a sizable margin when he ran for governor last year and as you know last year was an as good if any year for a Republican candidate.

248 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:33:41pm

re: #246 engineer dog

"Newt Gingrich has been forgiven by God for his adulteries."

but i'm not forgiving him his childishnesses or his adolescentries, nor his adulteries

What's the matter with discussing the terms of your divorce with your wife on her death bed?
//

249 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:33:50pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Well it depends. I don't think he's done running for office but as a viable candidate for higher than Congress positions, I think he is. He lost by a sizable margin when he ran for governor last year and as you know last year was an as good if any year for a Republican candidate.

Agh forgot he was the Constitution Party's candidate but still my point stands. I don't think he has much appeal beyond a congressional district.

250 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:35:08pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Well it depends. I don't think he's done running for office but as a viable candidate for higher than Congress positions, I think he is. He lost by a sizable margin when he ran for governor last year and as you know last year was an as good if any year for a Republican candidate.

true that, but I got a feeling

251 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:37:24pm

re: #242 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's still early. I've heard rumors that Rudy's contemplating another run, along with Romney. Paul's a definite run, considering the supposed power that his branch of the Tea Party has got going, but you can could McCain out. Another rumor going around is that Jon Huntsman will seek the nomination, with the few pundits I've heard talking about him saying he has a strong chance, but is going to have an interesting time explaining why he was willing to work for Obama before he sought to replace the guy.

Well the other interesting thing about Jon Huntsman is how does he position himself on social issues. He had a reputation as a social moderate as governor of Utah and quite frankly because I like Jon and would love to see him emerge as a messager of reason in the Republican Party, I'd hate to see him do what Romney did and that's go full so-con to get votes. I'm on record on saying that I have and will support more moderately minded especially on social issues Republicans. It's why I respected John Warner here for so long since it was awesome to see a 80 year old vet of WWII and Korea tell Peter Pace that he disagreed with Pace's view that homosexuality was immoral. Plus he was willing to buck the Republican party when he felt it necessary. He was about representing our srate instead of his party and I appreciated that.

252 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:40:26pm

re: #238 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dawn of War: Retribution is amazing.

I heard they were going back to the DOW formula of being able to build up larger customizable armies. I am just waiting for the 40k mmo.

253 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:44:35pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Well the other interesting thing about Jon Huntsman is how does he position himself on social issues. He had a reputation as a social moderate as governor of Utah and quite frankly because I like Jon and would love to see him emerge as a messager of reason in the Republican Party, I'd hate to see him do what Romney did and that's go full so-con to get votes. I'm on record on saying that I have and will support more moderately minded especially on social issues Republicans. It's why I respected John Warner here for so long since it was awesome to see a 80 year old vet of WWII and Korea tell Peter Pace that he disagreed with Pace's view that homosexuality was immoral. Plus he was willing to buck the Republican party when he felt it necessary. He was about representing our srate instead of his party and I appreciated that.

Yeah, I respected the hell out of Warner, which is why it was depressing when I heard he'd chosen to retire. The man was nothing if not a fighter, from beginning to end. Not too many like him anymore in Congress, too many ideologues and "professional politicians" whose job is to keep getting reelected, which means schmoozing up to lobbyists and special interests, with a few weeks of shaking hands and kissin' babies during campaign season.

If I had one piece of advice for Huntsman in '12, it would be to put "winning the base" on the backburner and focus on winning over the independent vote. The base is going to do one of three things: Vote for him anyway, write in somebody else, or stay home. What Huntsman has to realize is the same thing Obama realized in '08: The base will tend to itself, it's the folks who aren't waving one banner or another who will put you in the White House. Win them over and you're as good as gold.

254 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:45:23pm

re: #252 Dreggas

I heard they were going back to the DOW formula of being able to build up larger customizable armies. I am just waiting for the 40k mmo.

You get 1 Leader hero, then 3 other characters. You can drop those heroes for special units and a higher population cap allowing you to recruit other squad during the game. They've also introduced functional vehicles, so for the IG, you can load a Chimera up with 2 squads Guardsmen and your commisar to assault a position while your heavy weapons teams lay down suppresive fire.

And Sgt Major Merrick is a beast.

255 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:49:31pm

Libya's tribes rise up against Gadhafi


One after another, Libya's myriad tribes are falling in line against Gadhafi, and the implications are enormous, said longtime observers of Libya, because for centuries, tribes have formed the backbone of the North African nation.

Many Americans pride themselves on God and country. In Libya, it's God, tribe, then country.

Libya's 140 or so tribes and the clan and family structure that fall under them, remain the most important aspect of a society that lags behind many others in the region in development, said Ronald Bruce St. John, a scholar who has visited Libya numerous times and published several books about the country.

With the exception of the Red Crescent Society and the Boys Scouts, few civil society institutions exist anymore in Libya, crushed by four decades of Gadhafi's authoritarian rule. There are no trade unions, PTAs or Lions Clubs.

The tribes have filled those gaps and because of that, they have perhaps taken on a stronger role in Libya than in other Arab nations.

"Libyans have a strong loyalty to tribe," said Philip Carl Salzman, a McGill University professor of anthropology and author of "Culture and Conflict in the Middle East."

256 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:54:51pm

re: #255 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Libya's tribes rise up against Gadhafi

/maybe we can break the county in half, like East Libya/West Libya & sell arms to both? what could go wrong?

257 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:57:07pm

It’s Time to Play ‘Sheen, Beck, or Qaddafi?’

Q'Daffy and Beck are hard to tell apart.

258 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 3:57:14pm

Actual Gameplay shots from Retribution:

Image: Retri_ig_troopers.jpg

Image: Retri_ig_sentinels.jpg

Image: Retri_sm_gameplay.jpg

259 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:01:38pm

re: #257 Killgore Trout

It’s Time to Play ‘Sheen, Beck, or Qaddafi?’

Q'Daffy and Beck are hard to tell apart.

nor really... I got 14 of 15 right. Sorry.

260 TedStriker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:01:57pm

re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The only time I can recall that Bryan Fischer said something I even remotely agree with:

Even so, Newt's electability problem is Newt. His philandering shows a deep lack of character, so it wouldn't surprise me that Fischer seems willing to overlook that detail in order to support Newt.

261 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:02:13pm

re: #253 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I respected the hell out of Warner, which is why it was depressing when I heard he'd chosen to retire. The man was nothing if not a fighter, from beginning to end. Not too many like him anymore in Congress, too many ideologues and "professional politicians" whose job is to keep getting reelected, which means schmoozing up to lobbyists and special interests, with a few weeks of shaking hands and kissin' babies during campaign season.

If I had one piece of advice for Huntsman in '12, it would be to put "winning the base" on the backburner and focus on winning over the independent vote. The base is going to do one of three things: Vote for him anyway, write in somebody else, or stay home. What Huntsman has to realize is the same thing Obama realized in '08: The base will tend to itself, it's the folks who aren't waving one banner or another who will put you in the White House. Win them over and you're as good as gold.

It was weird honestly. The conservatives I knew seemed more happy about his departure than the liberals I knew. I guess they hated his strayign away from conservative orthodoxy and I know many resented the hell out of him for refusing to endorse Oliver North when he ran for senate in 1994. Boy did the commonwealth dodge a bullet there. The thing I liked about Warner that I noticed when we had him and Allen both as our senators was that Allen was more in to being a partisan and worse he pandered to Confederate noslagia. The funny thing is Warner is the native Virginian and unlike Allen I believe actually had ancestors who fought for hte CSA but you never read about Warner having CSA flags or being insenstivie to racial minorities. He was a gentleman. Now, I'm happy with Mark Warner in the senate but I really do wish we could have more John Warners in the Republican Party now. Guys who I won't agree with most of the time but guys I can sincerely like, understand where they're coming from, and not demonize me for being a liberal.

262 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:04:54pm

What's the chance you guys would wait for me before getting into an interesting thread?

About 0.0?

That's kinda what I thought.

263 Virginia Plain  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:05:36pm

re: #257 Killgore Trout

It’s Time to Play ‘Sheen, Beck, or Qaddafi?’

Q'Daffy and Beck are hard to tell apart.

Actually, some of the quotes I thought were either Beck or Qaddafi were Sheen. The only thing that makes Sheen less harmful than those two is the lack of power.

264 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:06:52pm

re: #262 b_sharp

What's the chance you guys would wait for me before getting into an interesting thread?

About 0.0?

That's kinda what I thought.

awww well now it is mo interesting. feel better?

265 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:08:24pm

re: #263 Virginia Plain

Actually, some of the quotes I thought were either Beck or Qaddafi were Sheen. The only thing that makes Sheen less harmful than those two is the lack of power.

last I checked Beck didn't have thousands of mercenaries...

266 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:09:24pm

re: #265 brookly red

last I checked Beck didn't have thousands of mercenaries...

Yet...

267 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:09:36pm

re: #265 brookly red

last I checked Beck didn't have thousands of mercenaries...

True. But he has political influence in a country a lot more important than Libya.

268 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:09:46pm

re: #264 brookly red

awww well now it is mo interesting. feel better?

No.

I'm too busy sulking.

269 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:12:19pm

re: #258 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Actual Gameplay shots from Retribution:

Image: Retri_ig_troopers.jpg

Image: Retri_ig_sentinels.jpg

Image: Retri_sm_gameplay.jpg

those are sweet graphics. I just get burned out too quick on RTS games these days.

270 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:12:33pm

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yet...

well a whole bunch of men need some work right about now...

271 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:14:31pm

I pine for the days long passed/past where the town loon was relegated to life in the local saloon followed by the single cell in the local constabulary to sleep it off.

272 Kragar  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:15:47pm

re: #270 brookly red

well a whole bunch of men need some work right about now...

A satchel of gold and a cannister of survival seeds for every man who signs on!

273 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:15:49pm

re: #271 b_sharp

I pine for the days long passed/past where the town loon was relegated to life in the local saloon followed by the single cell in the local constabulary to sleep it off.

yup, now days we put em in high office.

274 Four More Tears  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:16:00pm

re: #270 brookly red

well a whole bunch of men need some work right about now...

Wisconsin teachers make for poor mercenaries.

Trust me, I know...

275 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:17:16pm

re: #272 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A satchel of gold and a cannister of survival seeds for every man who signs on!

I could use the gold, & I can shoot straight... be careful what you ask for.

276 brookly red  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:18:32pm

re: #274 JasonA

Wisconsin teachers make for poor mercenaries.

Trust me, I know...

well don't confuse reading scores for accuracy

277 Max  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:33:15pm

re: #1 Lawrence Schmerel

Well, Sharia would have been more liberal than the "America" that the right wing social conservatives have in mind.

Don't be ridiculous.

278 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 4:35:51pm

re: #258 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Actual Gameplay shots from Retribution:

Image: Retri_ig_troopers.jpg

Image: Retri_ig_sentinels.jpg

Image: Retri_sm_gameplay.jpg

i call on all my visual components to confess their sims and repaint();

279 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 5:01:24pm

re: #277 Max D. Reinhardt

Don't be ridiculous.

True. They'd be about the same.

280 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 5:03:04pm

re: #278 engineer dog

i call on all my visual components to confess their sims and repaint();

I see you speak fluent geek.

281 mipatel  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:49:10am

hmm. so that's why i felt that disturbance in the force.

282 S'latch  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:54:26am

re: #277 Max D. Reinhardt

Don't be ridiculous.

There are grounds for my statement. For example, Sharia Law would be more liberal than the strict social conservative anti-abortion stance.

"In Islam, the fetus is believed to become a living soul after four months of gestation, and abortion after that point is generally viewed as impermissible. Many Islamic thinkers recognize exceptions to this rule for certain circumstances; . . . 'the majority of Muslim scholars permit abortion, although they differ on the stage of fetal development beyond which it becomes prohibited.'" (Wikipedia).

This view is more liberal than the view that right wing social conservatives have.

283 GirlyMan  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:33:44am

The current state of American politics seems to me to be the Bigot Brigade vs. the Fag Front. As a member of the Reasonable Regiment with both bigots and fags as friends and relatives, this fight is not even close to being fair. One side is intelligent, reasonable, and rather buff - the other side spends all it's time misinterpreting the Gospels. My 4 young adult children and their peers accept sexual orientation and religious affiliation as individual preferences. The bigots are dying out. The game is already over, we are just watching the final moves and death throes.


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