Poll: Republicans Deserting Palin

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A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that Republicans are deserting Sarah Palin’s sinking ship.

For the first time in Post-ABC News polling, fewer than six in 10 Republicans and GOP-leaning independents see Palin in a favorable light, down from a stratospheric 88 percent in the days after the 2008 Republican National Convention and 70 percent as recently as October.

In one sense, the poll still finds Palin near the top of a list of eight potential contenders for the GOP nomination. The former vice presidential candidate scores a 58 percent favorable rating, close to the 61 percent for former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee and 60 percent for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, and better than the 55 percent that onetime House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.) received.

But Palin’s unfavorable numbers are significantly higher than they are for any of these possible competitors. Fully 37 percent of all Republicans and GOP-leaning independents now hold a negative view of her, a new high.

Note that this shouldn’t be taken as a sign of burgeoning sanity in the GOP; the current frontrunner is deranged squirrel-eating theocrat Mike Huckabee.

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164 comments
1 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:10:14am

I admit that I also like squirrel.

However, I’m not a theocrat.

Venn diagram of theocrats and squirrel-eaters would be interesting.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:11:53am

re: #1 Obdicut

I admit that I also like squirrel.

However, I’m not a theocrat.

Venn diagram of theocrats and squirrel-eaters would be interesting.

I’ll be over in the Venn diagram of people who like a representative government and eat pasta.

See ya.

3 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:12:08am
the current frontrunner is deranged squirrel-eating theocrat Mike Huckabee.

No, that can’t be. If it was, Faux would drop his very fair and balanced show on cable TV.

4 Tigger2005  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:13:12am

Sorry to go off-topic so soon, but I just posted this request in the previous thread so wouldn’t sure it would be noticed:

Can someone suggest a Web site that lists the major climate change denial scientists and talks about why their claims are inaccurate or false?

There is an AGW denial guy on Facebook, “Bob King” whose latest tactic is to put up at least one post every day with photographs of three climate change denier scientists along with quotes from each. The way he presents it it sounds like there are a lot of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on climate change, but of course these scientists are a tiny fraction of the overwhelming number who accept the scientific conclusion that human introduction of CO2 into the atmosphere is driving global warming.

The problem is, it takes time to research each scientist he lists and offer a rebuttal. One of his dittoheads brags about how he reposts Bob’s posts on the home pages of his “lib friends” and they have “no response.” It takes time to Google each scientist listed and sift through all the pages that come up, and often I can’t find anything explaining why their claims are wrong. If there is an already existing page where many of these scientists and their claims are debunked, that would make it much easier.

5 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:14:48am

re: #4 Tigger2005

Here’s a good resource at DeSmogBlog:

[Link: www.desmogblog.com…]

6 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:15:48am

They’re abandoning a plague ship to board the Titanic.

7 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:15:53am

I’m wondering if it’s a desertion or a just a swap for Bachmann. Or maybe it’s also a statement on how Bachmann is perceived (I hope).

8 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:15:57am

re: #4 Tigger2005

This is handy:

[Link: www.skepticalscience.com…]

A good demonstration of how much consensus there is about AGW, especially on those working in the field.

And this is a takedown of the big list of scientists:

9 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:17:22am

In other nutter news, Sharron Angle to run for Heller’s House seat.

10 mr.fusion  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:18:54am

Sully pointed out earlier that although her support among mainstream GOP’ers is waning, the same poll shows her and Huck within a stones throw of each other with Tea Party support.

You’ve heard the saying that someone has support that’s “an inch deep and a mile wide”? With Palin I think it’s the reverse. A mile deep and an inch wide……but that could be enough to get her the nomination.

11 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:20:45am

Currently stuck on a phone survey about the radio.

My thoughts? Killing you and escaping!

12 Interesting Times  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:21:50am
13 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:22:09am

re: #7 marjoriemoon

I’m wondering if it’s a desertion or a just a swap for Bachmann. Or maybe it’s also a statement on how Bachmann is perceived (I hope).

I think it’s mostly from the GOP insiders who know that she can’t win elections. Palin and Beck are bad news and I’m sure there’s a lot of work behind the scenes to undermine them.

14 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:22:58am

re: #11 EmmmieG

For anyone that missed the Onion piece, that’s going to sound psycho.

15 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:23:59am

re: #13 Killgore Trout

I think it’s mostly from the GOP insiders who know that she can’t win elections. Palin and Beck are bad news and I’m sure there’s a lot of work behind the scenes to undermine them.

Yea, but Bachmann is worse, if that’s possible and she’s everyone’s new honeypie.

16 rwdflynavy  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:24:41am

re: #15 marjoriemoon

Yea, but Bachmann is worse, if that’s possible and she’s everyone’s new honeypie.

Especially in Concord, New Hampshire.

17 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:24:53am

I’ve been wondering about this for a while. It seems like Bachmann is getting a lot more shine from the media and the crazies lately - and we’ve heard nary a peep from Caribou Barbie.

Maybe it’s dawning on Palin that her brand of crazy has been eclipsed by Bachmann’s, and the safer course in the long run is to stay out of politics and just take the (Fox) money and run.

18 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:25:58am

re: #17 makeitstop

Bachmann was bein’ crazy for a long time before Palin came on the scene. Maybe she’s protecting her brand.

19 theheat  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:26:41am

Palin will go Britney Spears before she gives up her place at the trough. And by Britney Spears, I mean she’ll “accidentally” forget to wear a bra or panties, then complain how her privacy was violated when the paps start snapping pics to sell. Sexy + Victim Card = Works.

(Huckabilly can’t pull that off. Even the thought is gag-worthy.)

Nobody can discount just how low this creature will go for self-preservation, and she’s already a confirmed liar.

“Once you know the nature of something, you know what it’s capable of.”
20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:27:24am

re: #17 makeitstop

I’ve been wondering about this for a while. It seems like Bachmann is getting a lot more shine from the media and the crazies lately - and we’ve heard nary a peep from Caribou Barbie.

Maybe it’s dawning on Palin that her brand of crazy has been eclipsed by Bachmann’s, and the safer course in the long run is to stay out of politics and just take the (Fox) money and run.

Also, and this is a complete side point, I’d rather have Palin’s husband. He doesn’t take orders from God on what he should order her to do.

21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:28:26am

She’s damaged goods. The brand is tainted. Everyone knows it.

22 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:28:26am
23 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:28:33am

re: #17 makeitstop

I’ve been wondering about this for a while. It seems like Bachmann is getting a lot more shine from the media and the crazies lately - and we’ve heard nary a peep from Caribou Barbie.

Maybe it’s dawning on Palin that her brand of crazy has been eclipsed by Bachmann’s, and the safer course in the long run is to stay out of politics and just take the (Fox) money and run.

I don’t think anything can dawn on Palin really. She’s got her stor(ies) and she’s sticking to them. She listens to no one but herself. She was pushed aside - forced out, pretty much kicking and screaming.

I think this poll is great, if accurate and if that also means that they think Bachmann’s crazy too, even better! If Huck is a serious contender, more power to him. It’ll insure an Obama win.

24 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:29:02am

re: #19 theheat

Palin will go Britney Spears before she gives up her place at the trough. And by Britney Spears, I mean she’ll “accidentally” forget to wear a bra or panties, then complain how her privacy was violated when the paps start snapping pics to sell. Sexy + Victim Card = Works.

(Huckabilly can’t pull that off. Even the thought is gag-worthy.)

Nobody can discount just how low this creature will go for self-preservation, and she’s already a confirmed liar.

Maybe Huck can pull off the snorting coke and dating a porn star schtick?

25 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:30:34am

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Charlie Sheen has that schtick covered.

26 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:30:42am

I just wanted to give full credit to some % of rightwingers.

In my travels around the Interwebs the past couple of days I’ve come across quite a few rightwingers claiming that concerns about the emission of radioactive materials in Japan have been trumped up be enviro-Nazis who are pushing their extremist opposition to nuclear power.

Given that tens of thousand of Japanese have been evacuated due to concerns about radioactive exposure, and tens of thousands more have been instructed to stay indoors, and that the situation is on-going and noone seems to know the full potential of the harm that might be caused….

it really takes a special kind of gutter mentality to try to politicize the unfolding events.

Unfortunately, to my friends and former students in Japan, and to the millions of Japanese that I’ve never met, I would imagine that the ranting of American rightwingers that the concerns about exposure to radioactive materials are overblown is of little consolation.

27 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:30:51am

Off topic. I feel strange for praising the French Government, but here it is.

France pleads for military intervention as Gaddafi forces attack Libyan rebels

It seems France is willing to shoot as well. I never thought I would say this, but: Go France Go!

28 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:30:53am

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Russmusen via Fox
11% of Americans Are Basically Communists

We need to find out who these people are immediately. I suggest a commission.

29 Stanley Sea  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:31:28am

re: #17 makeitstop

I’ve been wondering about this for a while. It seems like Bachmann is getting a lot more shine from the media and the crazies lately - and we’ve heard nary a peep from Caribou Barbie.

Maybe it’s dawning on Palin that her brand of crazy has been eclipsed by Bachmann’s, and the safer course in the long run is to stay out of politics and just take the (Fox) money and run.

Oh, she’s back. Wrote a Facebook post blaming Obama for the rising gas prices.

Someone at FOX debunked it!!! lol

[Link: mediamatters.org…]

30 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:32:13am

re: #25 lawhawk

Charlie Sheen has that schtick covered.

I’m only 1 for 2.

31 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:33:07am

I could never vote for Huckabee. It’s not that I can’t vote for someone of a religion that isn’t mine, or even someone of a religion that is opposed to mine.

It’s the way he attacked Romney over religion, and tried to do it on the sly.

Honestly, as far as the far right is concerned, there is enough to go after Romney for in terms of policies and positions. You don’t need to get personal.

32 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:33:54am

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Which one?

33 Stanley Sea  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:35:27am

OT, but via twitter

nprnews NPR News
by davidfolkenflik

Man Charged In Threats Against NPR Hosts [Link: n.pr…]

34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:35:53am

re: #28 JasonA

We need to find out who these people are immediately. I suggest a commission.

Five bucks a scalp?

35 iceweasel  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:36:13am

I was just coming by to post this and already found it up:


Palin’s Support Plummets Among Republicans

TP, same poll, WaPo links.

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:36:19am

re: #1 Obdicut

I admit that I also like squirrel.

However, I’m not a theocrat.

Venn diagram of theocrats and squirrel-eaters would be interesting.

Theocrats who do eat squirrels.
Theocrats who don’t eat squirrels.
Theocrats who tried squirrel once, but didn’t like it.
Non-theocrats who do eat squirrels…

In Huckabee’s case, it’s not so much the squirrel itself, as his pride in the popcorn-popper recipe that stands out.

37 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:36:52am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Theocrats who do eat squirrels.
Theocrats who don’t eat squirrels.
Theocrats who tried squirrel once, but didn’t like it.
Non-theocrats who do eat squirrels…

In Huckabee’s case, it’s not so much the squirrel itself, as his pride in the popcorn-popper recipe that stands out.

When I was in college, we just went out for crazy bread.

38 Interesting Times  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:37:00am

re: #26 Talking Point Detective

it really takes a special kind of gutter mentality to try to politicize the unfolding events.

Is there anything right-wingers haven’t politicized?

Protecting the environment? ✓
Protecting workers? ✓
Women’s health? ✓
Healthy eating? ✓
Education? ✓

In other words, if it’s something they think liberals like, they’re reflexively, stupidly, cut-off-nose-to-spite-face against it.

39 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:37:09am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Theocrats who do eat squirrels.
Theocrats who don’t eat squirrels.
Theocrats who tried squirrel once, but didn’t like it.
Non-theocrats who do eat squirrels…

In Huckabee’s case, it’s not so much the squirrel itself, as his pride in the popcorn-popper recipe that stands out.

What about those who ate it, but didn’t swallow?

40 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:37:35am

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Oh, she’s back. Wrote a Facebook post blaming Obama for the rising gas prices.

Someone at FOX debunked it!!! lol

[Link: mediamatters.org…]

LOL Oh Moses smell the Roses. The price of gas under Bush was over $4.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

Nice try, though, Sarah.

41 blueraven  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:38:31am

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

Off topic. I feel strange for praising the French Government, but here it is.

France pleads for military intervention as Gaddafi forces attack Libyan rebels

It seems France is willing to shoot as well. I never thought I would say this, but: Go France Go!

Well let them just go ahead and do it then. Why do we always have to be the ones? If the fighting grows fierce, will France be in it for the long haul?

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:38:36am

re: #10 mr.fusion

Sully pointed out earlier that although her support among mainstream GOP’ers is waning, the same poll shows her and Huck within a stones throw of each other with Tea Party support.

You’ve heard the saying that someone has support that’s “an inch deep and a mile wide”? With Palin I think it’s the reverse. A mile deep and an inch wide…but that could be enough to get her the nomination.

Isn’t whoever it is going to need to be able to pull some mainstream support, though?

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:39:11am

re: #38 publicityStunted

Maybe that’s why we need so many knee replacement surgeries. We are constantly jerking them.

(Note I did not say “off”)

44 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:39:22am

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Oh, she’s back. Wrote a Facebook post blaming Obama for the rising gas prices.

Someone at FOX debunked it!!! lol

[Link: mediamatters.org…]

Maybe we should start oil drilling in Alaska afterall. Maybe start in Wasilla….

45 albusteve  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:40:20am

nobody in their right mind would eat a squirrel unless they are simply eating one for the novelty or starving…eating one as casually as one eats a can of Beef-O-Roni is a display of insanity and I would never vote for someone who happily eats a fucking squirrel

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:40:22am

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe Huck can pull off the snorting coke and dating a porn star schtick?

I don’t think he would. Mad as I am at him, I think he’s actually a pious man by his own lights.

47 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:40:23am

re: #31 EmmmieG

I could never vote for Huckabee. It’s not that I can’t vote for someone of a religion that isn’t mine, or even someone of a religion that is opposed to mine.

It’s the way he attacked Romney over religion, and tried to do it on the sly.

Honestly, as far as the far right is concerned, there is enough to go after Romney for in terms of policies and positions. You don’t need to get personal.

I couldn’t vote for Huckabee because he is so rabidly religious, but also because he pulled the “Mau Mau” stunt to cater to racist groups and then had the nerve to claim that he meant Indonesia. He’s dangerous.

48 Slap  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:41:08am

re: #45 albusteve

nobody in their right mind would eat a squirrel unless they are simply eating one for the novelty or starving…eating one as casually as one eats a can of Beef-O-Roni is a display of insanity and I would never vote for someone who happily eats a fucking squirrel

You’re an anti-squirrel bigot, you are!

49 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:42:04am

re: #45 albusteve

nobody in their right mind would eat a squirrel unless they are simply eating one for the novelty or starving…eating one as casually as one eats a can of Beef-O-Roni is a display of insanity and I would never vote for someone who happily eats a fucking squirrel

The 1950s squirrels were far purer than the 2011 squirrels.

Pfft. I thought everyone knew THAT!

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:42:20am

re: #31 EmmmieG

I could never vote for Huckabee. It’s not that I can’t vote for someone of a religion that isn’t mine, or even someone of a religion that is opposed to mine.

It’s the way he attacked Romney over religion, and tried to do it on the sly.

Honestly, as far as the far right is concerned, there is enough to go after Romney for in terms of policies and positions. You don’t need to get personal.

I actually taught a little lesson about political propaganda based on that ‘don’t they believe the devil is Jesus’ brother?’ moment.

51 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:42:26am

re: #45 albusteve

nobody in their right mind would eat a squirrel unless they are simply eating one for the novelty or starving…eating one as casually as one eats a can of Beef-O-Roni is a display of insanity and I would never vote for someone who happily eats a fucking squirrel

Next you’ll say carne de rat isn’t kosher either

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:43:22am

re: #37 EmmmieG

When I was in college, we just went out for crazy bread.

Elitist! Out of touch with The Real America!!!

//Actually, that’s Palin’s schtick.

53 BishopX  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:43:23am

re: #47 Sionainn

I couldn’t vote for Huckabee because he is so rabidly religious, but also because he pulled the “Mau Mau” stunt to cater to racist groups and then had the nerve to claim that he meant Indonesia. He’s dangerous.

I wouldn’t vote for Huckabee because he fell for the reformed christian prisoner stunt. Multiple times. If a two bit murderer can put one over the huckster, what’s going to happen when he winds up face to face with Putin?

Regardless of his politics, the man is just not competent.

54 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:45:09am

re: #45 albusteve

Eh….

I’d prefer poisoning pigeons in the park. /

55 KingKenrod  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:45:23am

re: #31 EmmmieG

I could never vote for Huckabee. It’s not that I can’t vote for someone of a religion that isn’t mine, or even someone of a religion that is opposed to mine.

It’s the way he attacked Romney over religion, and tried to do it on the sly.

Honestly, as far as the far right is concerned, there is enough to go after Romney for in terms of policies and positions. You don’t need to get personal.

There are still some Republicans I would hold my nose and vote for, but Huckabee ain’t one of them. He’s the stinkiest banana in a very rotten bunch.

56 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:45:48am

Theocrats make REALLY BAD presidents.

The Founding Fathers are no longer rolling in their graves. They’ve gotten up screaming, running downhill with their hair on fire.

57 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:47:02am

re: #54 lawhawk

Eh…

I’d prefer poisoning pigeons in the park. /

[Video]

SPRING IS HERE!

58 theheat  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:47:36am

re: #26 Talking Point Detective

have been trumped up be enviro-Nazis who are pushing their extremist opposition to nuclear power.

And the GOPs kept backing big tobacco because the effects of smoking were all overblown, too. In fact, a lot of stuff spoon-fed to the public as “safe” or “good” at one time or another has proven to be not just false, but a huge fucking lie with dire consequences.

When radiation poisoning lands on their lawn (“Get off my lawn!”) they’ll still figure out a way to discount the warnings by scientists and environmentalists, and probably say it was because gays in the military made Baby Jesus angry.

59 albusteve  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:51:13am

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SPRING IS HERE!

squirrel launching

60 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:53:36am

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

Off topic. I feel strange for praising the French Government, but here it is.

France pleads for military intervention as Gaddafi forces attack Libyan rebels

It seems France is willing to shoot as well. I never thought I would say this, but: Go France Go!

Oh yeah because once Qaddafi is overthrown a pro-western democratic government will take charge and everything will be sunshine and rainbows?

At best it means a change to another dictatorship, one most likely backed and controlled by the Muslim brotherhood. There is no upside here for the people living in western countries. I’m as saddened by the loss of life and the brutal tactics employed by the Libyan government as anyone else. However I am not at all convinced that outsiders should be taking sides besides moral support perhaps. I seriously question whether it is in anyones best interest to introduce foreign military forces to Libya to kill even more people, regardless of which side they are on.

Hasn’t the West interfered enough in African politics? Creating one government here and toppling another one there…let the African people choose their own leaders. We cannot impose our values on them and expect them to have the people’s respect. They have to choose them for themselves.

61 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:54:26am

re: #59 albusteve

squirrel launching

[Video]

6 weeks to go…

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:54:55am

re: #56 marjoriemoon

Theocrats make REALLY BAD presidents.

The Founding Fathers are no longer rolling in their graves. They’ve gotten up screaming, running downhill with their hair on fire.

I’m thinking of the scene at the end of the first Back to the Future movie, when Doc comes to get Marty and the girl. “It’s your children…something’s got to be done about your children!”

I imagine Franklin and Adams and Jefferson and Washington all looking baffled, but piling into the time machine.

63 Randy W. Weeks  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:55:46am

re: #56 marjoriemoon

Theocrats make REALLY BAD presidents.

The Founding Fathers are no longer rolling in their graves. They’ve gotten up screaming, running downhill with their hair on fire.

That would be JFK’s fault.

///

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:56:16am

re: #60 ausador

Oh yeah because once Qaddafi is overthrown a pro-western democratic government will take charge and everything will be sunshine and rainbows?

At best it means a change to another dictatorship, one most likely backed and controlled by the Muslim brotherhood. There is no upside here for the people living in western countries. I’m as saddened by the loss of life and the brutal tactics employed by the Libyan government as anyone else. However I am not at all convinced that outsiders should be taking sides besides moral support perhaps. I seriously question whether it is in anyones best interest to introduce foreign military forces to Libya to kill even more people, regardless of which side they are on.

Hasn’t the West interfered enough in African politics? Creating one government here and toppling another one there…let the African people choose their own leaders. We cannot impose our values on them and expect them to have the people’s respect. They have to choose them for themselves.

That’s kind of where I’m coming from. I obviously can’t root for Gaddafi, and I hope he fries in hell, but I have no idea who’s fighting him, or who’s going to emerge into leadership if he goes down.

65 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:56:31am

In some related news (apologies if it has already been posted).

Poll Shows Huckabee, Bachmann Have Most Intense Support

3/15/2011 3:14 PM ET

(RTTNews) - Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., have the highest “positive intensity” scores among the field of possible Republican presidential candidates, according to the results of a Gallup poll released on Tuesday.


I remember a while back reading some folks commenting at LGF that while they disagreed with Huckabee on issues, they thought he was sort of a good ol’ boy.

I dunno. Seems to me that the man pretty much reeks of a willingness to promote intolerance at the service of political expediency. Having a good sense of humor doesn’t quite make up for that in my book.

66 dmon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:58:06am

Its not sounding good.


MSNBC just reported that the US military has ordered all personel to stay at least 50 miles from the nuke plant in Japan

67 iceweasel  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:58:47am

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Russmusen via Fox
11% of Americans Are Basically Communists

68 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:58:55am

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m thinking of the scene at the end of the first Back to the Future movie, when Doc comes to get Marty and the girl. “It’s your children…something’s got to be done about your children!”

I imagine Franklin and Adams and Jefferson and Washington all looking baffled, but piling into the time machine.

In the 2nd BTTF movie (which was the lamest one IMO) they don’t do anything about Marty & Jennifer’s kids.

69 dmon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:59:57am
70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:00:39am

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

I imagine Franklin and Adams and Jefferson and Washington all looking baffled, but piling into the time machine.

Would they do a report at San Dimas High School?

71 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:01:35am

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Would they do a report at San Dimas High School?

SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!

72 albusteve  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:02:12am

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

whoa!…LOL

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:03:28am

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bogus!

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:04:15am

Okay, I’ve gotta scoot back to work. Have an appointment to remodel a kitchen in the ghetto.

As the snow flies…

75 JeffM70  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:04:44am

The troubling thing is 58% of Republicans still approve of her actions over the last two years.

76 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:05:22am

More on Sharron Angle including the YouTube video with her announcement. I wonder if she is going to try to stay away from the media like she did the first time.

77 iceweasel  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:05:46am

Huckabee should never be president for this reason alone:

Documents Expose Huckabee’s Role In Serial Rapist’s Release

As governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee aggressively pushed for the early release of a convicted rapist despite being warned by numerous women that the convict had sexually assaulted them or their family members, and would likely strike again. The convict went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.

Confidential Arkansas state government records, including letters from these women, revealed publicly for the first time, directly contradict the version of events now being put forward by Huckabee.

And why did Huck pardon him?—theocracy and Clinton-conspiracy mongering:

In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond’s initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.

The case for Dumond’s innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond’s release, calling his conviction “a travesty of justice.” On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined “Clinton’s Biggest Crime - Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years”:

Fuck Huck.

78 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:06:57am
deranged squirrel-eating theocrat Mike Huckabee.

Mmm! Squirrel pie! Gonna get me some fresh ramps and season those little critters up before I pop them in a flaky pastry crust! ;)

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:08:04am

re: #78 celticdragon

Mmm! Squirrel pie! Gonna get me some fresh ramps and season those little critters up before I pop them in a flaky pastry crust! ;)

Aside from the extreme trayfness, that sounds good.

80 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:09:55am

re: #27 ProLifeLiberal

Off topic. I feel strange for praising the French Government, but here it is.

France pleads for military intervention as Gaddafi forces attack Libyan rebels

It seems France is willing to shoot as well. I never thought I would say this, but: Go France Go!


I didn’t realize anybody was stopping France from flying on over. Or are they just waiting for us to do something? Has the useless UN said anything or are they too busy having another meeting on bad, bad Israel?

81 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:10:16am

re: #77 iceweasel

That’s outrageous. And page worthy.

82 iceweasel  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:11:16am

re: #81 BigPapa

That’s outrageous. And page worthy.

It’s from 2007, yet most people seem not to know about it. Maybe I’ll do one.

83 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:11:21am

re: #60 ausador

Oh yeah because once Qaddafi is overthrown a pro-western democratic government will take charge and everything will be sunshine and rainbows?

At best it means a change to another dictatorship, one most likely backed and controlled by the Muslim brotherhood. There is no upside here for the people living in western countries. I’m as saddened by the loss of life and the brutal tactics employed by the Libyan government as anyone else. However I am not at all convinced that outsiders should be taking sides besides moral support perhaps. I seriously question whether it is in anyones best interest to introduce foreign military forces to Libya to kill even more people, regardless of which side they are on.

Hasn’t the West interfered enough in African politics? Creating one government here and toppling another one there…let the African people choose their own leaders. We cannot impose our values on them and expect them to have the people’s respect. They have to choose them for themselves.

Personally, I don’t think we’ve intervened enough. African leadership has been nothing but grossly horrifying. Qaddafi, Idi Amin, apartheid, Charles Taylor, on and on. Millions of people have perished, excruciating deaths and no one gives a shit. Now we have African countries harboring terrorists (Sudan) and it’s going to come bite us big time in the ass.

84 Talking Point Detective  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:11:50am

re: #78 celticdragon

I lived for a while in rural Western North Carolina. People there were absolutely crazy about ramps. Didn’t hear much mention of squirrel, though.

85 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:11:52am

re: #56 marjoriemoon

Theocrats make REALLY BAD presidents.

The Founding Fathers are no longer rolling in their graves. They’ve gotten up screaming, running downhill with their hair on fire.

Gotta love how” fecal lubed” Santorum thinks that the separation of church and state is a bad idea:

Rick Santorum told about 50 members of the group Catholic Citizenship that he was “frankly appalled” that America’s first Catholic president, John F. Kennedy, once said “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute.”

“That was a radical statement,” Santorum said, and did “great damage.”

86 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:12:49am

re: #82 iceweasel

It’s from 2007, yet most people seem not to know about it. Maybe I’ll do one.

I remember a couple articles where more than a few felons decided to become Born Again because it meant Huckabee would sign off on their release.

87 mr.fusion  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:13:06am

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Isn’t whoever it is going to need to be able to pull some mainstream support, though?


In the primary? I’d say most definitely not…..I’d say the majority of GOP primary voters are not exactly “mainstream.”

88 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:14:51am

re: #85 celticdragon

Gotta love how” fecal lubed” Santorum thinks that the separation of church and state is a bad idea:

“That was a radical statement,” Santorum said, and did “great damage.”

1. Screw you, Santorum, you moron. You, and other Catholics in politics, have benefited greatly from Kennedy’s courage and and trailblazing, and now that Catholics have a place at the Christian Conservatives’ table you want to betray that legacy by playing their game? Screw you.

2. You know what did great damage (to your political future)? Dan Savage giving you a ‘Google problem’. God bless that sweet man.

89 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:14:53am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Aside from the extreme trayfness, that sounds good.

LOL!

Definitely not a kosher dish!

BTW…I didn’t know just how effing hard it was to serve kosher Italian food until last Friday when I had a Jewish teacher (and friend) of mine over for dinner. We could not find Kosher meatballs anywhere. They all had cheese of some sort mixed into the meat, or they used pork products. We ended up making our own meatballs for her.

90 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:15:30am

Dow -282
Ouch

91 iceweasel  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:15:49am

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I remember a couple articles where more than a few felons decided to become Born Again because it meant Huckabee would sign off on their release.

I also remember a whole lot of MSM support given then to Krazy Klinton Conspiracies. Drugsmuggler! etc.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:15:52am

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Dow -282
Ouch

Is that Japan?

93 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:16:15am

re: #85 celticdragon

Gotta love how” fecal lubed” Santorum thinks that the separation of church and state is a bad idea:

hehehe It’s quite laughable. Catholics?? Really???

I really don’t care what you believe in. You can pray to a log of wood for all I care, just keep it out of politics.

94 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:16:33am

Japan update:

RT @PacificFleet Essex ARG w/ @31stMEU in Sea of Japan today. Will position off #Sakata to conduct disaster response #JPquake

High-pressure water pumps offloaded frm USNS Safeguard in Yokosuka last night for further xfer to Gov Japan for Fukushima plant.

Those high pressure water pumps are going to be critical to getting water on the damaged reactors to keep an already dangerous situation from getting even worse.

95 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:17:04am

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

Looks like it…..[Link: www.marketwatch.com…]

The loss among U.S. stocks steepened Wednesday afternoon, building on earlier declines after a European energy official expressed fears that Japan’s nuclear crisis was worsening.
96 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:17:50am

re: #94 lawhawk

Japan update:

RT @PacificFleet Essex ARG w/ @31stMEU in Sea of Japan today. Will position off #Sakata to conduct disaster response #JPquake

High-pressure water pumps offloaded frm USNS Safeguard in Yokosuka last night for further xfer to Gov Japan for Fukushima plant.

Those high pressure water pumps are going to be critical to getting water on the damaged reactors to keep an already dangerous situation from getting even worse.

Anybody want to post some nonsense from the WSJ today on how this isn’t really a big deal?

Thought not.

97 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:18:46am

re: #80 leftynyc

I didn’t realize anybody was stopping France from flying on over. Or are they just waiting for us to do something? Has the useless UN said anything or are they too busy having another meeting on bad, bad Israel?

LOL really! “France shakes its finger at the world.” The world replies, “France is where again?”

(Ineffective is the feeling I’m trying to get across here…)

98 iceweasel  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:19:04am

re: #93 marjoriemoon

hehehe It’s quite laughable. Catholics?? Really???

I really don’t care what you believe in. You can pray to a log of wood for all I care, just keep it out of politics.

Everyone needs a log!

99 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:19:19am

re: #89 celticdragon

LOL!

Definitely not a kosher dish!

BTW…I didn’t know just how effing hard it was to serve kosher Italian food until last Friday when I had a Jewish teacher (and friend) of mine over for dinner. We could not find Kosher meatballs anywhere. They all had cheese of some sort mixed into the meat, or they used pork products. We ended up making our own meatballs for her.

I make kosher meatballs all the time.

1 lb. ground beef
1 egg
2-3 slices bread, soaked in water and squeezed out
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1/4 tsp. oregano

Combine the egg and squeezed bread, mash together, add the ground beef and mash some more. Add the salt, pepper & spices and mix all together.

Fry the meatballs in a skillet, add your favorite sauce!

100 The Yankee  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:19:22am

The good news is I don’t think any one who has ever appeared on Bill Maher’s Real Time show has ever won the primary to become president. So there goes Huckabees chances

101 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:19:45am

re: #96 celticdragon

Anybody want to post some nonsense from the WSJ today on how this isn’t really a big deal?

Thought not.

Its all George Soros and his band of Vatican Assassins.
/

102 Kronocide  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:19:50am

Yes, it’s all a New York Times agenda to freak us out over radiation. There’s no problem, it’s all good, Chernobyl wasn’t even that bad (only a few 10’s of people died).

Paraphrasing Prager.

103 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:20:35am

re: #97 marjoriemoon

LOL really! “France shakes its finger at the world.” The world replies, “France is where again?”

(Ineffective is the feeling I’m trying to get across here…)

France could do it. She has a modern and capable carrier she can park right off the coast, and her land based aircraft are well within range. I just don’t think she will move without at least one other European country coming along.

104 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:20:59am

re: #99 Alouette

I make kosher meatballs all the time.

1 lb. ground beef
1 egg
2-3 slices bread, soaked in water and squeezed out
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1/4 tsp. oregano

Combine the egg and squeezed bread, mash together, add the ground beef and mash some more. Add the salt, pepper & spices and mix all together.

Fry the meatballs in a skillet, add your favorite sauce!

Thanks!! I’m keeping that!

105 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:21:07am

re: #80 leftynyc

I didn’t realize anybody was stopping France from flying on over. Or are they just waiting for us to do something? Has the useless UN said anything or are they too busy having another meeting on bad, bad Israel?

Oh, and btw? They’re waiting for us to do something so they can tell the rest of the world how brutal we are.

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:21:34am

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Looks like it…[Link: www.marketwatch.com…]

Damn. What a mess.

107 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:21:49am

re: #98 iceweasel

Everyone needs a log!

[Video]

It’s better then bad…it’s good!

108 The Yankee  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:22:34am

re: #103 celticdragon


The thing is I think that the rebels need more then just a no-fly zone to even come out with a stale mate. They will be lucky to break the country in half. The other problem is that the more secular half is in the West.

109 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:22:34am

re: #103 celticdragon

France could do it. She has a modern and capable carrier she can park right off the coast, and her land based aircraft are well within range. I just don’t think she will move without at least one other European country coming along.

Oh. Not. Gonna. Happen. In. Our. Lifetime.

110 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:22:49am

re: #96 celticdragon

Anybody want to post some nonsense from the WSJ today on how this isn’t really a big deal?

Thought not.

The CJR just posted a piece about how well the press has reacted to the triple whammy of a quake, tsunami and reactor crisis. They found it odd that the WSJ took the time and space on its editorial page to complain about coverage of the reactor mess.

[Link: www.cjr.org…]

111 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:24:12am

re: #82 iceweasel

I think we’ve covered Huckabee’s pardons at LGF. Charles posted the following pages:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

112 The Yankee  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:24:51am

re: #110 garhighway

The CJR just posted a piece about how well the press has reacted to the triple whammy of a quake, tsunami and reactor crisis. They found it odd that the WSJ took the time and space on its editorial page to complain about coverage of the reactor mess.

[Link: www.cjr.org…]

I actually think that the media is doing a good job covering the 3 major stories in Libya, Bahrain, and Japan.

113 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:25:20am

re: #102 BigPapa

Yes, it’s all a New York Times agenda to freak us out over radiation. There’s no problem, it’s all good, Chernobyl wasn’t even that bad (only a few 10’s of people died).

Paraphrasing Prager.

There was an interesting piece on NPR (hey: I paid for it, so I listen to it) this morning about a scientist who has been studying small mammals in the Chernobyl exclusion zone. Even though the animals themselves are literally radioactive, they haven’t suffered any significant genetic damage and they continue to breed true. It’s weird.

114 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:25:35am

re: #109 marjoriemoon

Oh. Not. Gonna. Happen. In. Our. Lifetime.

Italy is the one with close ties to Libya, and Italy would be the country to give political cover to France in the event that French Mirage and Rafale fighters started blasting the shit out of Libyan runways.

I don’t see Italy coming to the counter on this one.

115 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:25:40am

re: #112 The Yankee

I actually think that the media is doing a good job covering the 3 major stories in Libya, Bahrain, and Japan.

Me, too.

117 celticdragon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:27:32am

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Limbaugh Defends Comments Showing Amusement That Earthquake Hit Environmentally Conscious Japan

That bastard is beneath contempt. Maybe he should laugh at tornados tearing apart homes in deep red Texas?

118 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:29:39am

re: #113 garhighway

There are all kinds of studies going on with the Chernobyl environment - and while some of the animals are seemingly doing well, others aren’t - perhaps as a result of consuming more plants and animals that are contaminated with radioactive isotopes with significant half-lives like cesium. Migrating birds seem to be affected.

And still other studies are finding fewer of some kinds of animals.

119 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:30:09am

re: #60 ausador

I see your point. However, he has shown, that once again, he is a monster willing to slaughter his own people by the thousands. Also, he as exported terror to governments and nations he didn’t like in the past, if my history of the 80’s is correct. Also, Egypt and Tunisia have already intervened in the conflict in their own ways. If Gaddafi is allowed to stay, I don’t think it’s out of the question that he will support terror attacks in both nations, which are very fragile right now. Not to mention the fact he might be willing to that against Western nations again.

A final point, again, we didn’t get our independence completely on our own. We had support from the Dutch, French, and Spanish. So saying these people have to win their freedom on their own when we didn’t seems strange.

120 Jack Burton  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:30:12am

re: #83 marjoriemoon

Personally, I don’t think we’ve intervened enough. African leadership has been nothing but grossly horrifying. Qaddafi, Idi Amin, apartheid, Charles Taylor, on and on. Millions of people have perished, excruciating deaths and no one gives a shit. Now we have African countries harboring terrorists (Sudan) and it’s going to come bite us big time in the ass.

It’s a mess that France, the UK, Belgium, and Portugal are partially responsible for, and they (or the EU in general) should be stepping up to the plate to intervene first.

121 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:31:57am

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Limbaugh Defends Comments Showing Amusement That Earthquake Hit Environmentally Conscious Japan

Because someone, somewhere, claimed that being environmentally responsible would prevent earthquakes and tsunamis?

122 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:32:09am

NRC Chairman is saying high radiation levels at reactor 4 may affect the ability to “take corrective measures” - via Reuters live feed.

123 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:33:03am

re: #117 celticdragon

That bastard is beneath contempt. Maybe he should laugh at tornados tearing apart homes in deep red Texas?

If you listen to the end of the clip he abruptly cuts himself off. I assume someone pulled the plug on him. What an idiot.

124 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:33:27am

re: #119 ProLifeLiberal

I see your point. However, he has shown, that once again, he is a monster willing to slaughter his own people by the thousands. Also, he as exported terror to governments and nations he didn’t like in the past, if my history of the 80’s is correct. Also, Egypt and Tunisia have already intervened in the conflict in their own ways. If Gaddafi is allowed to stay, I don’t think it’s out of the question that he will support terror attacks in both nations, which are very fragile right now. Not to mention the fact he might be willing to that against Western nations again.

A final point, again, we didn’t get our independence completely on our own. We had support from the Dutch, French, and Spanish. So saying these people have to win their freedom on their own when we didn’t seems strange.

We had support because people wanted to stick it to great Britain. Relatively little because we were seeking freedom.

(And we got great military advisors from the Poles. Why does no one remember the Poles?)

125 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:34:07am

re: #83 marjoriemoon

Personally, I don’t think we’ve intervened enough. African leadership has been nothing but grossly horrifying. Qaddafi, Idi Amin, apartheid, Charles Taylor, on and on. Millions of people have perished, excruciating deaths and no one gives a shit. Now we have African countries harboring terrorists (Sudan) and it’s going to come bite us big time in the ass.

How many wars can we be in at the same time? And how do you prioritize the potential candidates for military intervention?

126 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:34:44am

re: #114 celticdragon

Italy is the one with close ties to Libya, and Italy would be the country to give political cover to France in the event that French Mirage and Rafale fighters started blasting the shit out of Libyan runways.

I don’t see Italy coming to the counter on this one.

I’d be shocked and amazed. It falls on the U.S. shoulders all the time to start this and then maybe they’ll join in. Maybe. The U.K. would join us absolutely, but the rest? Who knows.

It’s not going to happen, much to my chagrin. The U.S. can’t win either way, whatever we do, so we have to do the right thing. The right thing to me is going in and busting Qaddafi’s head.

But then I’m a hippy militant.

127 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:34:51am

You know what’s really amazing? That all the people who made God mad just happened to live next to the water.

Nice of them to all cluster up like that. That way God didn’t have to send the tsunami inland to say, Nebraska, to find them.

128 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:35:14am

re: #120 ArchangelMichael

It’s a mess that France, the UK, Belgium, and Portugal are partially responsible for, and they (or the EU in general) should be stepping up to the plate to intervene first.

Absolutely.

129 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:35:50am

re: #127 EmmmieG

You know what’s really amazing? That all the people who made God mad just happened to live next to the water.

Nice of them to all cluster up like that. That way God didn’t have to send the tsunami inland to say, Nebraska, to find them.

ROFL God hates water!

130 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:36:09am

re: #127 EmmmieG

You know what’s really amazing? That all the people who made God mad just happened to live next to the water.

Nice of them to all cluster up like that. That way God didn’t have to send the tsunami inland to say, Nebraska, to find them.

Well, they are there in the first place because it is His will. He was just saving Himself some work later by bunching them up like that.

//

131 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:38:10am

re: #120 ArchangelMichael

Charles Taylor is from Liberia. Which would make that our problem (sort of?)

From Wikipedia:

The history of Liberia is unique among African nations because of its relationship with the United States. It is one of only two countries in sub-Sahara Africa, along with Ethiopia, without roots in the European Scramble for Africa. It was founded and colonized by freed American slaves with the help of a private organization called the American Colonization Society in 1821-1822, on the premise that former American slaves would have greater freedom and equality there.

Slaves freed from slave ships were also sent there instead of being repatriated to their countries of origin. These colonists formed an elite group in Liberian society, and, in 1847, they founded the Republic of Liberia, establishing a government modeled on that of the United States, naming Monrovia, their capital city, after James Monroe, the fifth president of the United States and a prominent supporter of the colonization.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:38:21am

re: #127 EmmmieG

You know what’s really amazing? That all the people who made God mad just happened to live next to the water.

Nice of them to all cluster up like that. That way God didn’t have to send the tsunami inland to say, Nebraska, to find them.

Sinners in Nebraska just get hit with tornadoes.

133 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:39:02am

This just in:

BRUSSELS, March 16, 2011 (AFP) - The situation at Japan’s disaster-hit nuclear power plant has spun out of control, threatening a deeper catastrophe that could cost more lives, the European Union’s energy chief said Wednesday.

“The site is effectively out of control,” energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger told a European Parliament committee, one day after he said Japan was facing “apocalypse.”

“In the coming hours there could be further catastrophic events which could pose a threat to the lives of people on the island,” he said.

Scrambling to prevent a nuclear meltdown, Japanese crews have been dumping water on the stricken Fukushima No.1 power plant, which has been hit by a series of explosions after Friday’s quake knocked out reactor cooling systems.

134 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:39:20am

re: #131 ProLifeLiberal

Charles Taylor is from Liberia. Which would make that our problem (sort of?)

From Wikipedia:

I do feel some U.S. responsibility toward Liberia.

135 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:39:25am

re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist

The Poles are awesome. I’ve heard of how hard they fought in WWII. I would not want to go to war with them.

136 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:39:59am

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

Sinners in Nebraska just get hit with tornadoes.

So what about us up here in Portland? We’re too far inland for tsunamis, our earthquakes are duds, the volcanoes are too far away.

I guess since he can’t get us any other way, he just curses us with this rain. Which makes things grow, but now I’m confusing myself.

137 The Yankee  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:40:07am

By the way yesterday Rachel Maddow went into pretty good detail about what is really going on at the reactors and what to look out for. She even shows how the rods were made and what they look like. And how the spent rods are more of a danger then the ones that are being used.

138 garhighway  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:43:01am

re: #136 EmmmieG

So what about us up here in Portland? We’re too far inland for tsunamis, our earthquakes are duds, the volcanoes are too far away.

I guess since he can’t get us any other way, he just curses us with this rain. Which makes things grow, but now I’m confusing myself.

Rain and flannel shirts.

139 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:43:55am

re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist

I got sidetracked by the Poles, and forgot to say that, even if those nations didn’t support us for that reason, they are a very large chunk of the reason we won. Look at the some of the articles on Wikipedia about battles associated with the American War of Independence. A not insignificant number of them were very far afield from the colonies. Those three strung out the British too far for them to regain control.

140 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:44:10am

re: #138 garhighway

Rain and flannel shirts.

You can have my flannel shirt when you pry it from my cold, webbed, wet fingers.

141 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:49:27am

re: #97 marjoriemoon

LOL really! “France shakes its finger at the world.” The world replies, “France is where again?”

(Ineffective is the feeling I’m trying to get across here…)

While I happen to love France and was in Paris for Christmas this year, they are not exactly the go-get-em type. So listening to them complain of inaction on anybody’s part is kind of a joke.

142 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:52:25am

re: #99 Alouette

I make kosher meatballs all the time.

1 lb. ground beef
1 egg
2-3 slices bread, soaked in water and squeezed out
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1/4 tsp. oregano

Combine the egg and squeezed bread, mash together, add the ground beef and mash some more. Add the salt, pepper & spices and mix all together.

Fry the meatballs in a skillet, add your favorite sauce!

I don’t know why I haven’t told you this before. Before I even registed to post here, I bought both the cookbooks (I’m a huge fan of these kind of tried and true recipe books by real people). So many of your recipes look wonderful and I wanted to thank you for sharing.

143 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:54:38am

re: #105 marjoriemoon

Oh, and btw? They’re waiting for us to do something so they can tell the rest of the world how brutal we are.

I also remember seeing a sign from the opposition in Libya asking foreigners to butt out - they can handle it themselves. It breaks my heart to see the carnage being wrought by pro-khaddafi thugs but really believe we need to stay out of this one.

144 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:00:33pm

re: #138 garhighway

Rain and flannel shirts.


I’d love to hear him explain how the very center of Babylon - New York City - manages to very, very rarely get hit with natural disasters. All the while we see tornadoes tearing up the bible belt.

145 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:20:35pm

re: #141 leftynyc

While I happen to love France and was in Paris for Christmas this year, they are not exactly the go-get-em type. So listening to them complain of inaction on anybody’s part is kind of a joke.

I’m not a France hater… I mean, I eat freedom fries and freedom toast and everything!!

146 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:21:23pm

re: #144 leftynyc

I’d love to hear him explain how the very center of Babylon - New York City - manages to very, very rarely get hit with natural disasters. All the while we see tornadoes tearing up the bible belt.



Physical geography, weather, plate tectonics, and the movements of air masses wouldn’t have anything to do with it, of course.

147 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:26:20pm

re: #143 leftynyc

I also remember seeing a sign from the opposition in Libya asking foreigners to butt out - they can handle it themselves. It breaks my heart to see the carnage being wrought by pro-khaddafi thugs but really believe we need to stay out of this one.

Who knows who was holding that sign. I’m sure they don’t want to be massacred.

I don’t know. A no fly zone isn’t a declaration of war really. It’s there to protect people. But I guess whatever we do, we get a big fat F.Y. whether we help or ignore.

I can’t stop thinking, though, in the end what happens in one part of the world happens to the rest. We’re a global society now and no one lives in a vacuum. Africa is going to explode into a terrible problem. It’s been festering for decades and we haven’t seen the worst of it.

148 abolitionist  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:27:20pm

re: #137 The Yankee

By the way yesterday Rachel Maddow went into pretty good detail about what is really going on at the reactors and what to look out for. She even shows how the rods were made and what they look like. And how the spent rods are more of a danger then the ones that are being used.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com…]

Worth repeating.

149 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:29:22pm

re: #147 marjoriemoon

Who knows who was holding that sign. I’m sure they don’t want to be massacred.

I don’t know. A no fly zone isn’t a declaration of war really. It’s there to protect people. But I guess whatever we do, we get a big fat F.Y. whether we help or ignore.

I can’t stop thinking, though, in the end what happens in one part of the world happens to the rest. We’re a global society now and no one lives in a vacuum. Africa is going to explode into a terrible problem. It’s been festering for decades and we haven’t seen the worst of it.


It’s the before the no-fly-zone that’s the problem. We’d have to attack any air defenses, destroy their airports, etc.

150 leftynyc  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:30:06pm

re: #146 EmmmieG

Physical geography, weather, plate tectonics, and the movements of air masses wouldn’t have anything to do with it, of course.

Of course not. That’s that darned science stuff again.

151 Martinsmithy  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:31:27pm

(sigh) It appears that my dream of a Palin-Bachmann ticket to drool over in the Fall of 2012 (and vote against) is coming to naught …

152 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:34:03pm

re: #151 Martinsmithy

Why would you drool over them?

153 Martinsmithy  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:39:23pm

re: #152 Obdicut

They’re pretty good looking for 50 year old politicians. I’d rather watch a debate with Michelle Bachmann as the GOP vice presidential nominee than Tim Pawlenty.

Plus, in addition to being better looking, Congresswoman Bachmann, would be infinitely more (inadvertently, on her part) entertaining.

154 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:41:14pm

re: #153 Martinsmithy

Um. Okay. If fifty-year old politicians are your thing. Go for it.

Yech.

155 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 3:07:35pm

do you think a politician who admitted to drinking dog milk would be unelectable

sorry, just woke up, the brain needs caffiene

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 3:08:17pm

re: #154 Obdicut

Um. Okay. If fifty-year old politicians are your thing. Go for it.

Yech.

she sorta reminds me of a QVC salesperson, she has that cadence

157 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 3:17:50pm

re: #154 Obdicut

Um. Okay. If fifty-year old politicians are your thing. Go for it.

Yech.

Hey Obdi,
I can truly understand your swipe at politicians but please go easy on the fifty year olds ;)

158 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 3:28:37pm

re: #151 Martinsmithy

(sigh) It appears that my dream of a Palin-Bachmann ticket to drool over in the Fall of 2012 (and vote against) is coming to naught …

I would say that this is horribly sexist and that I am offended by it, but I think President Obama is seriously hot so I’ll cut you some slack.

159 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 4:02:43pm
160 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 4:09:19pm

Nice try, ‘jummy.’

161 theheat  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 4:30:25pm

Paln regarding actress Julianne Moore playing the part of Sarah in an upcoming movie:

“I think I’ll just grit my teeth and bear whatever comes what may with that movie…I am all about job creation and I guess I could provide some of these gals who pretend like they’re me some job security. I would ask though that - if they’re of the mind of spreading the wealth around - that perhaps they want to spring for one of my kid’s braces or something as they capitalize on pretending to be me.”

Counterfeit to the very core. Counterfeit at the molecular level. Her bullshit talking points bounce around her head like bee bees, and she doesn’t have the sense, honesty, or good grace to stop repeating her lies.

162 Michael McBacon  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 6:33:34pm

re: #160 Charles

Nice try, ‘jummy.’

AKA ‘serious_questions’?

163 Decider  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:14:23pm

I do not believe this poll. I find it hard to believe the far Right is wise to Palin. Just one look over at [Link: nation.foxnews.com…] will tell you they are not getting smarter.

164 Yashmak  Thu, Mar 17, 2011 7:31:38am

Please oh please let the desertion of Palin continue.


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