Yesterday in a House Rules Committee hearing, Rep. James McGovern (D-MA) discussed the Republican bill to defund NPR and suggested a novel amendment of his own.
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:51:46pm |
MCGOVERN: Over the past several years, it has become clear that the Fox News channel is wildly biased. They continue to employ a talk show host who called President Obama a racist. They continue to employ several prospective Republican Presidential candidates as “analysts,” giving them hours and hours of free air time. And their parent company has donated millions to GOP-linked groups. My amendment would prohibit federal funds – taxpayer dollars – from being used for advertising on the partisan, political platform of Fox News.
excellent.
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shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:52:27pm |
I never heard of this guy, McGovern. But I like him already.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:53:00pm |
But...but... wait!
That would be...ah...ah...fair!!!
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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:53:21pm |
ha...about time
this is how it should work where the rubber hits the road
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:53:38pm |
Gee, didn't the GOP take into consideration that they were wielding a two-edged sword?
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:53:52pm |
I say we trade defunding NPR for bringing back the Fairness Doctrine.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:54:46pm |
Would it be ok if the crew from "Wait,Wait Don't Tell Me" make the adds for Fox??;-)
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shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:56:31pm |
Why hasn't it occurred to any good ol' boy Republican that it is offensive for a foreigner - Rupert Murdoch - to be so determinative in US politics? Didn't the Founding Fathers have a - ummm - thing about being controlled by the British?
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:56:54pm |
Rep. Rich Nugent (R-Fla.) argued that those watching the House debate on Thursday were likely watching it on C-SPAN, which doesn’t receive federal funding.
“A lot of us like NPR,” he said, later adding: “We’re not trying to harm NPR. We’re actually trying to liberate them from federal tax dollars.”
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eastsider Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:57:56pm |
While I admire the attempt at "equivalence," this is really missing the point. What we need to do is not have a pissing contest to see who can defund more of the other sides' pet projects and political bases.* We need to have everyone take a huge, deep, breath, and realize that defunding a program worth $X00 Million dollars does nothing in the face of a deficit of $X00 billion dollars and a longterm debt of $X Trillion dollars. They're attacking the wrong order of magnitude, and doing it for what are transparently political purposes, and it is really insulting to watch.
*That said, the targeting of NPR, teachers, and unions as political bases with no regard for their societal benefit is personally revolting. I understand for Macchiavelli, but when the "ends" are increased political power, and the "means" are destroying valued institutions, I get a little pissed off.
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:58:01pm |
re: #8 imp_62
Why hasn't it occurred to any good ol' boy Republican that it is offensive for a foreigner - Rupert Murdoch - to be so determinative in US politics? Didn't the Founding Fathers have a - ummm - thing about being controlled by the British?
He's an Aussie though.
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shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:58:02pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
"Bend over, son. This is going to hurt me a lot more than it is going to hurt you"
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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:58:15pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Rep. Rich Nugent (R-Fla.) argued that those watching the House debate on Thursday were likely watching it on C-SPAN, which doesn’t receive federal funding.
“A lot of us like NPR,” he said, later adding: “We’re not trying to harm NPR. We’re actually trying to liberate them from federal tax dollars.”
those oppressive tax windfalls...
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:58:23pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Rep. Rich Nugent (R-Fla.) argued that those watching the House debate on Thursday were likely watching it on C-SPAN, which doesn’t receive federal funding.
“A lot of us like NPR,” he said, later adding: “We’re not trying to harm NPR. We’re actually trying to liberate them from federal tax dollars.”
Hey, now, he may be onto something!
Lets liberate the oil industry of federal tax breaks.
;)
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shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:58:57pm |
re: #11 Gus 802
Iceberg, Goldberg...
/
I knew that, but since it's all part of the former Empire...
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:59:07pm |
re: #14 Varek Raith
Hey, now, he may be onto something!
Lets liberate the oil industry of federal tax breaks.
;)
Great idea! My friend, you are a true patriot. /
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Mar 17, 2011 1:59:54pm |
Flashback, 2007:
The Nevada State Democratic Party is pulling out of a controversial presidential debate scheduled for Aug. 14 in Reno and co-hosted by Fox News, according to a letter released late Friday from state party chairman Tom Collins and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev).The letter said Nevada Democrats had entered into the agreement with Fox, despite strong opposition from Democratic activist groups such as MoveOn.org, as a way of finding "new ways to talk to new people."
But Collins and Reid wrote that comments on Thursday by FOX News Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes, when he jokingly compared Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, to Osama bin Laden, "went too far," and prompted Nevada Democrats to end the partnership.
"We cannot, as good Democrats, put our party in a position to defend such comments," the letter said. "In light of his comments, we have concluded that it is not possible to hold a presidential debate that will focus on our candidates and are therefore cancelling our August debate. We take no pleasure in this, but it is the only course of action."
Fox is the Scream Machine for the Right Wing. They shouldn't be treated as a legitimate news entity.
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:00:24pm |
re: #15 imp_62
Iceberg, Goldberg...
/
I knew that, but since it's all part of the former Empire...
Yep. He's a furriner! Run for the hills!
And they have a big ol' Arab stock holder in News Corpse.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:01:54pm |
Wooo Hooo!!!
It stopped snowing!!!
....now,where's my Speedo!
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:02:00pm |
Fox News couldn't run for president of the USA. They're "foreign born".
//
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:02:50pm |
re: #20 reloadingisnotahobby
Wooo Hooo!!!
It stopped snowing!!!
...now,where's my Speedo!
Don't forget the cocoa butter.
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ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:03:39pm |
Does anyone mind if I repeat the post I did at the end of the last thread. I think it is funny, and everyone should read it.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:03:43pm |
I need help with my grocery list...I promised to make corned beef and cabbage for my wife tonight since it's St. Pat's Day, but I forgot my shopping list...here's what I have so far:
1. Jameson's
2. Guinness
3. ... what else goes into corned beef and cabbage?
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Coachrichard Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:04:53pm |
re: #25 darthstar
I need help with my grocery list...I promised to make corned beef and cabbage for my wife tonight since it's St. Pat's Day, but I forgot my shopping list...here's what I have so far:
1. Jameson's
2. Guinness
3. ... what else goes into corned beef and cabbage?
Potatoes, duh
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eastsider Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:04:55pm |
Also, the first GOP senator, representative, governor, state officer, pundit, blogger, blog commenter, or mouth breather who can provide a credible explanation for:
defunding NPR --> ??? --> jobs
will receive one (1) free nestle crunch bar from me.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:05:22pm |
re: #25 darthstar
The corner Deli....doh!
No ...not that one! The one with the IRISH NAME!!
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Slap Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:05:25pm |
re: #25 darthstar
I need help with my grocery list...I promised to make corned beef and cabbage for my wife tonight since it's St. Pat's Day, but I forgot my shopping list...here's what I have so far:
1. Jameson's
2. Guinness
3. ... what else goes into corned beef and cabbage?
1. Corned Beef
2. Cabbage
3. Harp (required for black-n-tans)
See? Easy!
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Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:05:32pm |
To celebrate St. Patricks Day, I'm having Chicken Kiev.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:06:01pm |
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:06:26pm |
re: #25 darthstar
I need help with my grocery list...I promised to make corned beef and cabbage for my wife tonight since it's St. Pat's Day, but I forgot my shopping list...here's what I have so far:
1. Jameson's
2. Guinness
3. ... what else goes into corned beef and cabbage?
Glenfiddich?
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darthstar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:06:46pm |
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EdDantes Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:06:55pm |
re: #24 ProLifeLiberal
Does anyone mind if I repeat the post I did at the end of the last thread. I think it is funny, and everyone should read it.
Please do.
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eastsider Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:07:21pm |
re: #33 b_sharp
Glenfiddich?
that's Scottish. For today you'll have to drink Jameson's and/or Bushmills, depending on your favorite brand of Christianity.
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:08:17pm |
Good night and happy st pats to everyone!
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:08:29pm |
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:08:36pm |
re: #36 eastsider
that's Scottish. For today you'll have to drink Jameson's and/or Bushmills, depending on your favorite brand of Christianity.
It's Gaelic. That's close enough for me.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:10:14pm |
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Gus Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:10:30pm |
re: #37 iceweasel
Good night and happy st pats to everyone!
Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:13:05pm |
There once was Lass from Dublin
Whose breast were like ....
Oops...this was serious thread!
My bad.........
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Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:14:04pm |
re: #44 reloadingisnotahobby
There once was Lass from Dublin
Whose breast were like ...
Oops...this was serious thread!
My bad...
There once was a lady from Venus
Whose body was shaped like a ...
THATS ENOUGH DATA!
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:14:05pm |
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abbyadams Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:17:19pm |
Didn't Boehner promise to post bills for 72 hours on line before a vote?
He didn't break that promise, did he?
/
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Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:18:00pm |
re: #47 abbyadams
Didn't Boehner promise to post bills for 72 hours on line before a vote?
He didn't break that promise, did he?
/
But this was an emergency!!!
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eastsider Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:18:14pm |
I asked my friend (deployed in Basra) how they were celebrating today. He said:
"Green rice and mashed potatoes in the chow hall. I'm not quite sure how they explained the concept to the bangladeshi cooks, but we'll call this a win"
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:18:18pm |
Rep. McGovern: No Federal Funding for Political Ads on Fox News... the lefts version of an empty gesture. Looks like empty gestures are rampant on Capital Hill these days.
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Stanghazi Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:19:25pm |
re: #47 abbyadams
Didn't Boehner promise to post bills for 72 hours on line before a vote?
He didn't break that promise, did he?
/
They made it an emergency. Bypassing their own rule. It's really pitiful.
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EdDantes Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:19:46pm |
"In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress. "
— John Adams
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:19:47pm |
There is one State Agency in Utah that actually MAKES MILLIONS
a year for the state......Yup...the Liquor Agengies!!!
The Legislature proposes to close several and put 50-60 people out of work!!....WTF!!!
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Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:21:27pm |
Pence wants GOP leaders to defend tea party
Rep. Mike Pence expects to see top House Republicans, including John Boehner, speak out against Republicans who are bashing members of the tea party.
“I have no doubt that Speaker John Boehner and Republican Leader Eric Cantor and the rest of our leadership will privately, and if needs be, publicly denounce any effort to essentially bad mouth the intentions of Republicans that are simply fighting for fiscal responsibility,” the former GOP conference chair said Thursday morning on “The Hugh Hewitt Show.”
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:25:09pm |
re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hannity is talking to Pence right now!!
Wow,even radio waves are slower in Utah!!!//
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:25:18pm |
re: #54 reloadingisnotahobby
There is one State Agency in Utah that actually MAKES MILLIONS
a year for the state...Yup...the Liquor Agengies!!!
The Legislature proposes to close several and put 50-60 people out of work!!...WTF!!!
That's because you regulate it every which way from Sunday... and on Sundays.
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mr.fusion Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:27:05pm |
re: #2 imp_62
I never heard of this guy, McGovern. But I like him already.
He just earned $50 from the fusion household towards his reelection campaign.
Loved the pwnage of O'Keefe
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:29:05pm |
re: #58 mr.fusion
He just earned $50 from the fusion household towards his reelection campaign.
Loved the pwnage of O'Keefe
Has NPR hired back those two poor executives who were stung by this phony video by O'Keefe?
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:30:42pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:32:32pm |
Don't forget to designate a driver!!
I'm available as soon as Happy Hour is over!!!
///
Be safe!
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Renaissance_Man Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:37:59pm |
As part of the purgatory that this week of FOX exposure is for me (seriously, holy shit - this is a VA hospital guys, why would you put on the least patriotic, most seditious form of mass media in the Western world all day every day? Do you really hate your own nation that much?), I find myself really quite surprised by the ad content on FOX.
I believe that you can tell a lot about the market segment you belong to by what ads come on during the programs you watch. Marketing is a highly advanced science - if you're seeing a lot of ads for something in particular, you're watching the same stuff that people who buy that thing watch. This disturbs me, frankly, given that every time I watch the tennis I see a ton of Flomax and Cialis ads. At any rate, the ad content on FOX is not quite what I expected. There's surprisingly little in the way of politics - I guess the political advertising occurs during normal programming. There's also very little in the way of commonplace stuff like pharmaceuticals, insurance, and the like. But what there is a ton of are money ads. Gold, gold, gold. "I've heard that a lot of people are investing. How does someone like me buy gold?" Gold, and small-time investment firms. Not the big ones, with nationally recognised names, but ones that have websites that consist of the name of the guy on the ad, and who's also President, CEO, and probably receptionist. Lots and lots and lots of those ads. In other words, places where frightened people will send their money.
A lot of people say FOX are Republican shills, pushing a party line. I'm pretty sure they're not. I'm pretty sure they're just the most blatant form of targeted marketing - find a market segment that is highly emotional, gullible, and easy to frighten. Pander to them by reaffirming their opinions and frightening them some more, and then market stuff to them. It just so happens that the most susceptible market segment in the US is modern American Conservatives, or cultists.
(I did also note, however, that tonight! on the O'Reilly Factor, Bill will tell YOU what you need to know about Japan. And he'll do this by interviewing Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter. No kidding. I cannot imagine a single intelligent or pertinent thing that any of the four of them would have to say about Japan, if they can even find it on a map. However, I would expect that tomorrow, the cultist party line on why everything going on in Japan is Obama's fault will be set. Expect a fresh wave of Obama-hate with a Japanese flavour tomorrow.)
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:38:31pm |
O'Keefe released a new bogus tape today....
NPR Muslim Brotherhood Investigation Part III
Something about George Soros.
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:47:32pm |
A 1997 study by the Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island described a worst-case disaster from uncovered spent fuel in a reactor cooling pool. It estimated 100 quick deaths would occur within a range of 500 miles and 138,000 eventual deaths.[snip]That section of the Brookhaven study focused on boiling water reactors — the kind at the heart of the Japanese crisis.
The threat is considered so severe that at the start of the crisis Friday, immediately after the shattering earthquake, Fukushima plant officials focused their attention on a damaged storage pool for spent nuclear fuel at the No. 2 reactor at Daiichi, said a nuclear executive who requested anonymity because his company is not involved in the emergency response at the reactors and is wary of antagonizing other companies in the industry.
The damage prompted the plant’s management to divert much of the attention and pumping capacity to that pool, the executive added. The shutdown of the other reactors then proceeded badly, and problems began to cascade.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Italics and bolding are mine. Someone please correct me if I'm misreading, but this seems to be indicating that the Unit 2 spent fuel pool was seriously damaged initially by the quake, before the tsunami and subsequent events.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:47:55pm |
re: #11 Gus 802
He's an Aussie though.
Australia was a former British prison colony. Ergo, Fox News is run by The Crown. QED.
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:03:07pm |
Fox News types are an interesting bunch. A fairly right wing relative of mine is convinced Fox is the only network reporting the truth about what's going on in America. He believes the reason he doesn't see other media outlets report stories Fox does is not because the facts of said stories are misleading or outright false, but because every other media outlet is controlled by Liberal goons out to ruin the country.
I have tried getting him to see it differently but have had no luck. He just won't stop believing the few guys who say the sky is red when everyone says it is blue.
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makeitstop Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:05:17pm |
re: #1 iceweasel
I only take issue with one thing he said.
They continue to employ several prospective Republican Presidential candidates as “analysts,” giving them hours and hours of free air time.
Not "free" air time. They pay them to appear.
Other than that, he's spot on.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:09:02pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Rep. Rich Nugent (R-Fla.) argued that those watching the House debate on Thursday were likely watching it on C-SPAN, which doesn’t receive federal funding.
“A lot of us like NPR,” he said, later adding: “We’re not trying to harm NPR. We’re actually trying to liberate them from federal tax dollars.”
Have we been oppressing NPR with our money all these years?
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:10:19pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
When the GOP cuts off aid to children and mothers, they're just trying to free them from the terrible bondage of getting money to buy food.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:17:23pm |
re: #70 Obdicut
When the GOP cuts off aid to children and mothers, they're just trying to free them from the terrible bondage of getting money to buy food.
The first step in getting over eating is to admit you have a problem
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:20:30pm |
re: #70 Obdicut
When the GOP cuts off aid to children and mothers, they're just trying to free them from the terrible bondage of getting money to buy food.
Well, if NPR didn't have federal funding, they would be free to run ads from Joe's Pot Shop and Abortion Clinic.
(My husband, BTW, says that he would totally go to a place called Joe's Pot Shop and Abortion Clinic, even though he doesn't use pot, and doesn't need an abortion.)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:27:35pm |
re: #67 dragonfire1981
Fox News types are an interesting bunch. A fairly right wing relative of mine is convinced Fox is the only network reporting the truth about what's going on in America. He believes the reason he doesn't see other media outlets report stories Fox does is not because the facts of said stories are misleading or outright false, but because every other media outlet is controlled by Liberal goons out to ruin the country.
I have tried getting him to see it differently but have had no luck. He just won't stop believing the few guys who say the sky is red when everyone says it is blue.
Relatives really are a riot :D It's easier when you realize you don't have to argue with them, and in fact, arguing with them actually is what they want.
None of this is logic or facts that they've been sucked in by, it's pure repetition and all those deeply held and totally insane suspicions confirmed. But it's their identity, right? They're really buoyed by everything Fox News says, it makes them feel good and it means they don't have to think.
So they're all flush with their REPUBLICAN!!! IDENTITY!! and then some schmoe like us who's a little too smart to get their identity from a cable news program, a PAC, or some ex-shock jock talker who saw a market opportunity, we try and argue, and it doesn't work. They WANT that battle. They want to frustrate the smart guy (aka THE LIBURULLZZZZ) for no other reason than they want to. Isn't that how the morons in high school always acted? They don't need a reason, they're just dumb and destructive people. Well, now they're all grown up, and still dumb!
Their rules are different, they're not interested in facts, or political compromise, or really in learning anything, the extremist narrative is in their head, facts are immaterial. And certainly if they're family people, they're too busy with their family to go research, or look anything up, so that reinforces the ignorance as well.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 17, 2011 3:28:24pm |
re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist
There was a real store in Toronto, in a mall, my friend took a photo so I know it exists
The store was called "Smokes And Pets"
guess what they sold, just guess
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JRCMYP Thu, Mar 17, 2011 5:41:52pm |
Have I ever mentioned that the day after most national elections I feel so lucky to live in Massachusetts?
:)
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reidr Thu, Mar 17, 2011 6:24:17pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
“A lot of us like NPR,” he said, later adding: “We’re not trying to harm NPR. We’re actually trying to liberate them from federal tax dollars.”
A mugger once liberated me from my wallet. To this day, I thank that brave soul for teaching me such a valuable lesson about freedom. I wish I had gotten his name so I could pay him back. *sniff*
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