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Sean Hannity, Birther
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Here’s Fox News genius Sean Hannity in a Birther kinda mood.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:42:11pm |
I want to express my gratitude to Ms Elizabeth Taylor. She taught me to fight for folks I love who were being wronged by prejudice and fear.
נוחי על משכבך בשלום
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freetoken Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:43:59pm |
Trump is doing what every demagogue does - find convenient enemies to serve as the target of displaced angst. I suspect he'll find a measure of success, though not as much as Perot.
And of course Hannity likes him - Hannity has made millions (not as many as Limbaugh or Beck, though) off of pandering to the prejudices of the ignorant.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:44:14pm |
You know its a crazy world when Fox makes Jerry come across as the sane and reasonable guy.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:45:29pm |
Sean Hannity's always struck me as a smug prick. He does nothing here to refute that belief.
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elizajane Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:48:44pm |
Oh for Pete's sake. Will we never hear the end of this? After all, the Republicans are willing to back presidential candidates who aren't even from planet earth.
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austin_blue Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:50:19pm |
Ok, that's funny. Krager is absolutely right.
And there's Hannity, with his high school education, spouting bullshit.
If I was Springer, I would ask a simple question:
"Do you believe, personally, that the President of the United States is a citizen? That would either be a yes or a no answer."
And if they try to weasel out of answering yes or nor, ask them:
"Why are you being a weasel? Answer yes or no."
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Kragar Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:52:16pm |
Even when he does produce one, the wingnuts write it off as not the right form. Screw them.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:54:57pm |
re: #6 austin_blue
Ok, that's funny. Krager is absolutely right.
And there's Hannity, with his high school education, spouting bullshit.
If I was Springer, I would ask a simple question:
"Do you believe, personally, that the President of the United States is a citizen? That would either be a yes or a no answer."
And if they try to weasel out of answering yes or nor, ask them:
"Why are you being a weasel? Answer yes or no."
Agreed. Hannity would either have to look like a weasel, say he believes Obama to be a citizen and offend the nirthers, or say he does not believe that and beclown himself.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:55:16pm |
re: #6 austin_blue
Ok, that's funny. Krager is absolutely right.
And there's Hannity, with his high school education, spouting bullshit.
If I was Springer, I would ask a simple question:
"Do you believe, personally, that the President of the United States is a citizen? That would either be a yes or a no answer."
And if they try to weasel out of answering yes or nor, ask them:
"Why are you being a weasel? Answer yes or no."
Obama's birth notice was published in the Honolulu newspaper...end of story...effen clowns out there
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:56:18pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. Hannity would either have to look like a weasel, say he believes Obama to be a citizen and offend the nirthers, or say he does not believe that and beclown himself.
Or there's a third possibility: Just keep complaining that President Obama refuses to put the controversy to rest.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:59:09pm |
"Donald Trump is BRILLIANT!"
get with the program
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:59:31pm |
I Want to thank CHarles for this forum. And the friends I have met.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 8:59:33pm |
Shit even those who do acknowledge he's an American give some crap like Huckabee that he's not a real American because he never attended a boy scout meeting (neither did I) or cooked possums in a popcorn fryer or whatever Huckabee was talking about. There's more than one way to have an American childhood. My childhood was much then my brother who is fourteen years younger than me is.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:02:15pm |
re: #12 Floral Giraffe
I Want to thank CHarles for this forum. And the friends I have met.
We are lucky to have you here
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avanti Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:03:05pm |
I think he should let the birthers work themselves up to a frenzy than release it say a month before the election. He could say he does not understand what all the fuss was about since he would be the first POTUS to have to provide the original, not just a state certified copy for some odd reason.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:04:22pm |
re: #15 avanti
Disagree. He should NEVER give them the satisfaction.
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austin_blue Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:04:50pm |
re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Even when he does produce one, the wingnuts write it off as not the right form. Screw them.
What amazes me is that the genetic creators of our foreign-born, half-breed commie secret Muslim president were so convinced that they had created the Kwisatz Haderach that they had the foresight to publish the birth announcement in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin!
Image: obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif
Image: obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif
The plot is 50 years old! It is coming to fruition! We are all going to die!
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:05:42pm |
re: #17 austin_blue
What amazes me is that the genetic creators of our foreign-born, half-breed commie secret Muslim president were so convinced that they had created the Kwisatz Haderach that they had the foresight to publish the birth announcement in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin!
Image: obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advert iser0000.gif
Image: obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advert iser0000.gif
The plot is 50 years old! It is coming to fruition! We are all going to die!
You don't have to die. Just convert.
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:08:33pm |
re: #9 HoosierHoops
Obama's birth notice was published in the Honolulu newspaper...end of story...effen clowns out there
It is the sickest of sick racism that the "not born here" shit is still around. I actually cringe/cry every time I see it.
Imagine how President Obama feels. Tougher every day, but imagine.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:09:18pm |
Someone I forget who pointed out that his parents were married in Hawaii and at the time she was pregnant with him. Does one really think a pregnant woman would travel all the way to Kenya to give birth to him? The birthers piss me off. When Obama proposed legislation allowing for children of service people born overseas to explicitly have the same rights to run for office of kids born in the geographic US they claimed it was because he wanted to cover up his own past or that he did it to make McCain look bad. And the nonsense that Huckabee, Gingrich, and others repeat about him not being a real American is nonsense. These guys know that criticizing him only on the issues won't work for their base so they have to sling shit like monkeys at the zoo and I apologize to the monkeys at the zoo since I enjoy them.
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:09:34pm |
re: #12 Floral Giraffe
I Want to thank CHarles for this forum. And the friends I have met.
Back atcha Floral!
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:10:15pm |
re: #17 austin_blue
What amazes me is that the genetic creators of our foreign-born, half-breed commie secret Muslim president were so convinced that they had created the Kwisatz Haderach that they had the foresight to publish the birth announcement in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin!
Image: obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advert iser0000.gif
Image: obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advert iser0000.gif
The plot is 50 years old! It is coming to fruition! We are all going to die!
The first blogger to forward this was Tom Mcguire at justoneminute.. i really pissed him off when I called him on this...For some reason..I was never allowed to post there again.. No biggie....I moved on to here....
Do you understand the irony of this Stalkers? Just move the fuck on and get over it...
( They won't get it )
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:11:21pm |
Guy at work listens to a lot of stuff. He goes from Glen Beck, over to Al Sharpton, then to Dennis Prager and Michael Medved. I warn him he's going to sprain something in his head. Sometimes, to my great relief, he puts on a Pink Floyd CD. He's got a strange affinity for the Floyd and David Bowie, but not the skirt-wearing Bowie.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:12:14pm |
re: #21 HappyWarrior
Hey, Sarah Palin flew from TX to AK after her water broke!
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austin_blue Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:12:25pm |
By the way, just got back from a performance of Slide. Book by Rinde Eckert, music by Steven Mackey, musicians (old friends) eighth blackbird. Eckert is the singer and has one of the most amazing instruments you will ever hear. 8th BB are Grammy winners and are shit hot.
It is just a killer bee show. See if it is coming to your town. If it is, go get enthralled.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:14:25pm |
Oh, a thread just for us!
Yay!
Oh, um, waitaminute . . .
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:14:46pm |
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austin_blue Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:15:26pm |
re: #24 stevemcg
Guy at work listens to a lot of stuff. He goes from Glen Beck, over to Al Sharpton, then to Dennis Prager and Michael Medved. I warn him he's going to sprain something in his head. Sometimes, to my great relief, he puts on a Pink Floyd CD. He's got a strange affinity for the Floyd and David Bowie, but not the skirt-wearing Bowie.
Kilt, dude, kilt.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:16:50pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:17:39pm |
re: #23 HoosierHoops
The first blogger to forward this was Tom Mcguire at justoneminute.. i really pissed him off when I called him on this...For some reason..I was never allowed to post there again.. No biggie...I moved on to here...
Do you understand the irony of this Stalkers? Just move the fuck on and get over it...
( They won't get it )
No, they'll accuse you of "Stalking" for having posted that.
[waves to the Stalkers]
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:19:26pm |
The "Real American" nonsense that you hear many of them say reeks of Know Nothingism.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:24:24pm |
re: #30 austin_blue
Kilt, dude, kilt.
Actually, I could have sworn that in the picture of David Bowie wearing the sk, um, kilt, he's also holding a purse. And wearing rouge, although I think everybody wore rouge at least through the 80's.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:25:28pm |
Hannity holds a lot of sway with conservatives. If he starts pushing it, it's going mainstream soon.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:26:47pm |
Kinda OT but it's funny, iTunes and iPod playlists can be as long as you want them to be but I like trying to make mine under 80 minutes. It's like trying to make pieces of a puzzle fit. I just edited my St. Patrick's Day playlist and it's thirteen seconds under 80 minutes because I replaced one song with another. Really think I have this flowing well since I have traditional and new songs alike and various types of music.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:28:55pm |
re: #36 HappyWarrior
I don't have any playlists under 3 hours. It's funny how much overlap there is among them. Sometimes I wonder what's the diff. I guess I have a few "go to" songs, then mix in a little flavor.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:32:02pm |
I just went through my library, and I don't think I could come up with more than two possible St. Patrick's day tunes. "Whiskey in the Jar" and "One Bourbon, One Scotch one Beer".
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:33:45pm |
re: #37 stevemcg
I don't have any playlists under 3 hours. It's funny how much overlap there is among them. Sometimes I wonder what's the diff. I guess I have a few "go to" songs, then mix in a little flavor.
I think as much as I am a huge modernist when it comes to how I attain and organize my music, I think yeah I relish in the challenge of making a virtual CD here. I think it comes from making mix tapes with my Dad as a kid. It's a fun challenge truly. I only started making mixes on iTunes fairly recently but it's something I've come to enjoy doing since in this case I am trying to construct a narrative through songs. My past mixes were mainly what I was listening to at that period in time. Tbose are good for nostlagia of course.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:36:23pm |
re: #39 HappyWarrior
I see what you mean. I used to do the same with 90 minute cassettes. The big difference was that with a CD or Itunes, it's easier to skip a song that you're not in the mood for.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:36:38pm |
Well here's the real question for the idiot birthers: If you were going to pick a Manchurian type candidate to become president back in 1962, would you have picked a black kid who's parents named him Barack Hussein Obama?
What drives this stupid belief (racism) is also what makes it impossible.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:37:40pm |
re: #41 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well here's the real question for the idiot birthers: If you were going to pick a Manchurian type candidate to become president back in 1962, would you have picked a black kid who's parents named him Barack Hussein Obama?
What drives this stupid belief (racism) is also what makes it impossible.
Haha you make a really good point that's obvious but I never really thought about.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:38:25pm |
re: #36 HappyWarrior
Kinda OT but it's funny, iTunes and iPod playlists can be as long as you want them to be but I like trying to make mine under 80 minutes. It's like trying to make pieces of a puzzle fit. I just edited my St. Patrick's Day playlist and it's thirteen seconds under 80 minutes because I replaced one song with another. Really think I have this flowing well since I have traditional and new songs alike and various types of music.
I have 4 kinds of playlists in itunes -
1) everything by a given artist. I'm listening to Keith Jarrett right now.
2) Fits on a DVD of MP3s - works in one car, many hours of music. Usually my day-to-day playlist as well that gets tweaked as I find things I like & get tired of other things.
3) Fits on a CDROM of MP3's - works in the other car, 7~8 hours of music. Almost always a subset of #2.
4) Fits on a CDROM as 80 minute audio CD. Either a recording as issued by the artist or a very small subset of #3
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:38:34pm |
re: #41 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well here's the real question for the idiot birthers: If you were going to pick a Manchurian type candidate to become president back in 1962, would you have picked a black kid who's parents named him Barack Hussein Obama?
What drives this stupid belief (racism) is also what makes it impossible.
C'mon. There was no way to be sure he wouldn't die, turn out insane, or self-destruct.
Obviously, they repeated this trick with dozens, maybe hundreds, of kids. Kind of like Ender's Game, he was just the one that worked out.
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jaunte Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:38:35pm |
re: #41 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well here's the real question for the idiot birthers: If you were going to pick a Manchurian type candidate to become president back in 1962, would you have picked a black kid who's parents named him Barack Hussein Obama?
What drives this stupid belief (racism) is also what makes it impossible.
It's insanely clever, isn't it?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:40:12pm |
Remember the idea in the Manchurian Candidate was that it was the rabid anti Communists (Senator and Mrs. Islein) who were the real Communists.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:41:20pm |
I always found it amusing what songs I saved for my library and which ones I didn't bother with. For example I have more Carpenters' songs than Beatles'. I kept a surprising number of Jethro Tull songs, because when I was going through my CD's I forgot just how much I liked it. There are a lot of songs I didn't bother copying because I have heard them just toooooo many times, and I don't miss them. I kept all of Who Are You, except for "Who are You?"!
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moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:41:24pm |
re: #20 Stanley Sea
It is the sickest of sick racism that the "not born here" shit is still around. I actually cringe/cry every time I see it.
Imagine how President Obama feels. Tougher every day, but imagine.
He's been black all of his life, so I assure you he has a defense system that's been up and running and prepared. He probably wishes they'd just admit the truth about why they really don't like him though. Ultimately he's winning because he's the president and probably will be until 2016. I don't know if it gets tougher everyday because every day he's POTUS. He'll have to watch his blood pressure though.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:49:28pm |
re: #44 EmmmieG
Obviously, they repeated this trick with dozens, maybe hundreds, of kids. Kind of like Ender's Game, he was just the one that worked out.
That would be a truly scary mind-space to live in. Especially if you take that to it's logical conclusion (Speaker For The Dead).
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:51:09pm |
re: #44 EmmmieG
C'mon. There was no way to be sure he wouldn't die, turn out insane, or self-destruct.
Obviously, they repeated this trick with dozens, maybe hundreds, of kids. Kind of like Ender's Game, he was just the one that worked out.
Hey, maybe I'm one of those kids. I'm only 46, but that's pretty close. I think this would make a great movie. We could call it "The Leftovers"
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:52:29pm |
re: #48 moderatelyradicalliberal
He's been black all of his life, so I assure you he has a defense system that's been up and running and prepared. He probably wishes they'd just admit the truth about why they really don't like him though. Ultimately he's winning because he's the president and probably will be until 2016. I don't know if it gets tougher everyday because every day he's POTUS. He'll have to watch his blood pressure though.
yep, yep, and yep.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:53:34pm |
re: #50 stevemcg
Hey, maybe I'm one of those kids. I'm only 46, but that's pretty close. I think this would make a great movie. We could call it "The Leftovers"
Yeah, except that now he has to get rid of the rest of you, so you've got a number of chase scenes and thriller hiding-from-the killer moments coming up.
I'm thinking Rahm Emmanuel. Everyone will think he's too busy, so he's perfect.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:53:56pm |
re: #50 stevemcg
To continue, it could be a thriller. You know with the seekrit mooslums chasing down the leftover kids (now adults) because they're expendable. Our hero (ME!) discovers the vile plot and hooks up with Scarlett Jahansen and says, "Who gives a shit, I just nailed ScarJo! I can die happy."
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:54:44pm |
Heh this is sounding a little like Boys From Brazil.One of my favorite movies if only for the irony of Gregory Peck playing Mengele, the polar opposite of his greatest role, Atticus Fitch.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:55:13pm |
re: #54 stevemcg
To continue, it could be a thriller. You know with the seekrit mooslums chasing down the leftover kids (now adults) because they're expendable. Our hero (ME!) discovers the vile plot and hooks up with Scarlett Jahansen and says, "Who gives a shit, I just nailed ScarJo! I can die happy."
Ah, I see you are a member of the First Church of Hollywood Blockbusters as well.
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sagehen Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:56:34pm |
re: #20 Stanley Sea
It is the sickest of sick racism that the "not born here" shit is still around. I actually cringe/cry every time I see it.
Imagine how President Obama feels. Tougher every day, but imagine.
My favorite birther moment was a Republican poll that 6% of the respondents agreed that he was born in Hawaii, but they weren't convinced Hawaii is actually part of the United States.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:57:09pm |
re: #57 sagehen
My favorite birther moment was a Republican poll that 6% of the respondents agreed that he was born in Hawaii, but they weren't convinced Hawaii is actually part of the United States.
That and New Mexico.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:58:57pm |
re: #56 EmmmieG
Ah, I see you are a member of the First Church of Hollywood Blockbusters as well.
Who needs a script? We should cast it first. Liam Neeson. I don't know what role, but we gotta get him. Let's take up a collection.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:00:34pm |
re: #59 stevemcg
Who needs a script? We should cast it first. Liam Neeson. I don't know what role, but we gotta get him. Let's take up a collection.
We don't need no steenking script. Or dialogue. Or plot.
Just explosions. And cleavage.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:00:49pm |
re: #57 sagehen
My favorite birther moment was a Republican poll that 6% of the respondents agreed that he was born in Hawaii, but they weren't convinced Hawaii is actually part of the United States.
That was mine too. They specifically asked the respondents "So if you don't think Obama is from the US, where is he from?" Now most said Kenya but a sizable chunk said Hawaii.
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Girth Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:02:49pm |
re: #50 stevemcg
Hey, maybe I'm one of those kids. I'm only 46, but that's pretty close. I think this would make a great movie. We could call it "The Leftovers"
Watch your ass.
There can be only one.
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stevemcg Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:04:15pm |
re: #60 EmmmieG
We don't need no steenking script. Or dialogue. Or plot.
Just explosions. And cleavage.
Damn, if I only knew how to post a photo.
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talking point detective Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:05:37pm |
Not sure which is more pathetic, the bullshit about Obama's birth certificate or Hannity trying to claim that conservatives deserve credit for the Civil Rights Act.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:08:59pm |
re: #64 talking point detective
Not sure which is more pathetic, the bullshit about Obama's birth certificate or Hannity trying to claim that conservatives deserve credit for the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah they argue that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Acts. It must be pointed out that support and opposition for civil rights legislation was a reigional and ideological thing. Northern Republicans/Democrats of the moderate and liberal stripes tended to support it more than Southern conservative ones. Shit if you went back in time and told Strom Thurmond and his political allies that he was a liberal, he'd tell you that you were off your rocker.
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Tigger2 Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:09:19pm |
This is about as wingnut as you can get.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Steven Seagal go Mechanised to get 115 fighting roosters.
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:10:40pm |
Time to be a responsible adult and go to bed.
Have a nice night.
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:15:20pm |
re: #59 stevemcg
Who needs a script? We should cast it first. Liam Neeson. I don't know what role, but we gotta get him. Let's take up a collection.
Liam Neeson? I'm in for 1K
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:15:26pm |
re: #66 Tigger2
This is about as wingnut as you can get.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Steven Seagal go Mechanised to get 115 fighting roosters.[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Where are all the "small government conservatives" in Arizona decrying the use of a goddamned tank to search the house of an unarmed man? Joe Arapaio isn't America's toughest sheriff, he's America's dumbest one.
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:17:10pm |
re: #68 Stanley Sea
Liam Neeson? I'm in for 1K
Wow! That's about 831 more than I got. That wouldn't be cash, would it?
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:17:33pm |
re: #66 Tigger2
This is about as wingnut as you can get.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Steven Seagal go Mechanised to get 115 fighting roosters.[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
crazy
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:18:12pm |
More Arizona madness:
[Link: www.kgun9.com...]
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:18:32pm |
re: #70 SteveMcG
Wow! That's about 831 more than I got. That wouldn't be cash, would it?
Cash if I get dinner with him.
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dr. luba Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:23:18pm |
re: #13 HappyWarrior
Shit even those who do acknowledge he's an American give some crap like Huckabee that he's not a real American because he never attended a boy scout meeting (neither did I) or cooked possums in a popcorn fryer or whatever Huckabee was talking about. There's more than one way to have an American childhood. My childhood was much then my brother who is fourteen years younger than me is.
All real patriotic red-blooded americans know that it's squirrel brains that you cook in a popcorn popper. Sheesh...........
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:25:46pm |
Something tells me we're going to have to go the indie route. I have part of a script:
(interior cave, night)
Bearded one: Allah be praised, our man is going to be President. I didn't think we could have got anything better for us than George W. Bush.
Taller Bearded one: I don't know. John McCain would have done wonders for us. Almost as good as (expansive hand gesture) "President Hilary Clinton".
Soon to be headless Bearded man: If we were going to go through all this trouble to get a secret agent elected President, shouldn't we have at least made sure he was Muslim?
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:28:52pm |
re: #74 dr. luba
All real patriotic red-blooded americans know that it's squirrel brains that you cook in a popcorn popper. Sheesh...
BTW can you imagine the reaction that whoever discovered popcorn must have had the first time it started popping? Must have been priceless.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:30:03pm |
Well you have to include the Russians and Chinese in there too since they think he's a Commie. Oh and Nazis.
Soviet Agent: He will have to be a great Communist like Stalin.
Chinese Agent: You mean like Mao
Soviet Agent: No, I said Stalin
Chinese Agent: Mao
Muslim Agent: Now, now gentlemen he has to be a Muslim too
Nazi Agent: He has to be a Nazi too.
Soviet Agent: This is getting ridiculous. A Communist Nazi Muslim.
Muslim Agent: Yes, that's what they'll think too but he will be the only Communist Nazi Muslim in history who enjoys basketball and beer.
All four: (laugh manically)
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:31:39pm |
re: #77 HappyWarrior
Can there be such a thing as a crowd sourced script?
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:34:20pm |
You know, Obama almost ruined the whole scheme when he tried bowling. He took so much abuse from that he probably lost a point or two in the polls.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:34:44pm |
re: #78 SteveMcG
Can there be such a thing as a crowd sourced script?
I don't know. I just like the idea of Maoists, Soviets, Islamists, & Nazis working together to create an American presidential candidate. It's like porn, only for simple minded people who think that all ideologies that they don't like must be in it together. Kinda like how Glenn Beck makes Islamism and Communism one and the same even though Islamists oppose Communism and vice versa.
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:35:41pm |
re: #80 HappyWarrior
"Maoists, Soviets, Islamists, & Nazis working together"
If they can do we sure as hell can.
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:40:18pm |
re: #80 HappyWarrior
I don't know. I just like the idea of Maoists, Soviets, Islamists, & Nazis working together to create an American presidential candidate. It's like porn, only for simple minded people who think that all ideologies that they don't like must be in it together. Kinda like how Glenn Beck makes Islamism and Communism one and the same even though Islamists oppose Communism and vice versa.
How'd you like to be the therapist for THAT?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:41:24pm |
Gotta go to sleep. Night people. Early class and all.
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:42:05pm |
Oh well, gotta split. I want scripts for scenes 1,2 5 and 11 by morning. I'll do 3,4 6, 10 and 22.
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SteveMcG Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:44:05pm |
Oy that should have been scene 12. We do the beginning and the end, then we'll see how much budget we have left for the middle.
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Lidane Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:46:48pm |
re: #65 HappyWarrior
Yeah they argue that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Acts.
They did -- if they lived in the segregated South.
Funny how after the Civil Rights Act, a bunch of those same racists switched parties and became Republicans. I love how the modern GOP never mentions that part.
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Henchman 25 Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:57:09pm |
re: #86 Lidane
Of course not. It contradicts the preconceived narrative they're selling.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Mar 23, 2011 10:57:29pm |
re: #86 Lidane
They did -- if they lived in the segregated South.
Funny how after the Civil Rights Act, a bunch of those same racists switched parties and became Republicans. I love how the modern GOP never mentions that part.
The modern GOP has Triple D disease: Dishonest, deceitful, and delusional.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Mar 23, 2011 11:08:53pm |
It is a scary scenario: a prospering (or at least recoving) economy, a world at peace and a low threat of terror would seriously dampen GOP chances in 2012...what motivation would they have to work towards achieving such self-defeating goals?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Mar 23, 2011 11:09:20pm |
Morning all!
How is everyone?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Mar 23, 2011 11:11:16pm |
re: #88 moderatelyradicalliberal
The modern GOP has Triple D disease: Dishonest, deceitful, and delusional.
Sung to the same tune as Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered?
to continue the Frank Sinatra theme from last night:
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Mar 23, 2011 11:18:01pm |
why?
At Least 15 Anti-Government Protesters Killed In Syria
Isn't it just easier and more profitable to let people just be themselves? Require them to live within the basic rules of society and mind your own business?
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Mar 23, 2011 11:22:08pm |
re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Even when he does produce one, the wingnuts write it off as not the right form. Screw them.
Quite true. I we had affidavits signed by Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, and Barry Goldwater swearing that they had witnessed the birth of Barack Obama, and attested by fingerprints taken in the blood of the signatories, the wingnuts would still claim they were fakes.
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Kruk Wed, Mar 23, 2011 11:22:22pm |
re: #58 EmmmieG
That and New Mexico.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. There's a *New* Mexico?
(That one never gets old).
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Thu, Mar 24, 2011 12:16:28am |
re: #94 Shiplord Kirel
Quite true. I we had affidavits signed by Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, and Barry Goldwater swearing that they had witnessed the birth of Barack Obama, and attested by fingerprints taken in the blood of the signatories, the wingnuts would still claim they were fakes.
I forget which Lizard nailed it. It's not racism alone, it's xenophobia.
For some Whackos™ it's one or the other.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 12:17:13am |
Michele Bachmann calls judges 'black-robed masters' in Iowa
Ripping judges as “black-robed masters,” Michele Bachmann praised conservative Iowans on Wednesday for sacking three members of the state Supreme after they legalized gay marriage.
Bachmann, speaking to a group of home school advocates, credited conservatives with sending a “shot across the bow” to judges throughout the country.
“You said enough is enough and sent them packing, and I’m very proud of what you’ve done,” she said, repeatedly calling judges “black-robed masters.” “It’s very rare that a judge does not go back to office.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 24, 2011 12:20:37am |
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sagehen Thu, Mar 24, 2011 12:38:58am |
re: #94 Shiplord Kirel
Quite true. I we had affidavits signed by Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, and Barry Goldwater swearing that they had witnessed the birth of Barack Obama, and attested by fingerprints taken in the blood of the signatories, the wingnuts would still claim they were fakes.
Well, duh.
Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to desegregate Arkansas schools. Nixon instituted affirmative action. Goldwater supported hated the religious right.
They'd obviously be in on it.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 12:56:38am |
re: #100 sagehen
Well, duh.
Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to desegregate Arkansas schools. Nixon instituted affirmative action. Goldwater supported hated the religious right.
They'd obviously be in on it.
And they were only a position to do that because the Founding Father's wrote the Constitution.
MY GOD, THEY WERE IN ON IT TOO!
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simoom Thu, Mar 24, 2011 1:03:22am |
So with Trump providing cover, is plain-spoken, outright Bitherism making a comeback on Fox News? Sure they do the more common dog whistle stuff with the "marxist", "socialist", "Kenyan anti-colonialism", "world wide apology tour", "doesn't believe in american exceptionalism", "unamerican ideas", "practices a kind of Christianity that is unrecognizable to most americans", "OMG there's a crescent moon in that logo!", etc. But I thought Fox had been poopooing staight-up Birtherism mainly because they felt it was too politically toxic?
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boxhead Thu, Mar 24, 2011 1:47:05am |
Hannity is as fake as WWE. Just like Beck, Rush, etc. The real travesty is that they have far too many believers.... Just like Hulk Hogan and Rick Flair....
I wish a reverse suplex on the lot of these yokels...
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simoom Thu, Mar 24, 2011 1:54:03am |
BTW, also on this topic, in Arizona:
Senate, House committees approve election-related 'birther' measures
The political-candidate "birther bill" has been revived at the Arizona Legislature.The Senate Government Reform Committee passed House Bill 2177 on Wednesday, and the House Government Committee passed a nearly identical Senate Bill 1157 on Tuesday.
...
The bills now each go to a vote of their full chambers.The bills would require political candidates at all levels of government to show proof of citizenship in order to run.
It would require presidential candidates to give the secretary of State proof that he or she is a natural-born citizen.
The Senate version of the bill includes wording that some lawmakers said defined natural-born citizens as children whose parents were citizens at the time of the candidate's birth.
That wording was eliminated from the House version.
Note the bit I bolded. The Senate version of the bill specifically targets President Obama, blocking him from the AZ ballot no matter what documentation he'd provide the AZ secretary of State.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:03:49am |
Another aftershock quake off of Japan's north coast, just off shore from one of the harder hit prefectures:
[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]
A 6.1 is enough to scare people or cause damaged structures to fall.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:05:18am |
re: #103 boxhead
I give the wrestling fans more credit than that. Hannity fans OTOH...
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boxhead Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:13:44am |
re: #104 simoom
BTW, also on this topic, in Arizona:
Senate, House committees approve election-related 'birther' measuresNote the bit I bolded. The Senate version of the bill specifically targets President Obama, blocking him from the AZ ballot no matter what documentation he'd provide the AZ secretary of State.
As far as I understand, a child who has a US Citizen as a mother is a Citizen with full Rights. We know Obama's mother is a US Citizen, so why does anything else matter? Oh and also, the State of Hawaii has officially said Obama was born there.
what gives?
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boxhead Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:16:45am |
re: #106 freetoken
I give the wrestling fans more credit than that. Hannity fans OTOH...
Some... not all... I still see videos on youtube that would suggest there are WWE believers out there... :p Just saw one on Tosh.0 today...lol
but yes, WWE fans are harmless if that is all they believe. I would wager there is a large intersection between the two sets of Hannity believers and WWE believers. arrrrrr
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:17:44am |
Movie recommendation: Spring 1941 (on hulu.com)
"This video is intended for mature audiences" so you'll need an account (free).
This semi-fictional drama is about love, family, adultery, and the struggle for survival in extraordinary circumstances; based on A Scrap of Time and other writings by Ida Fink.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:19:02am |
2 workers exposed to high radiation at Fukushima plant hospitalized
Two of three workers who were laying cable at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant on Thursday were exposed to high-level radiation and were hospitalized due to injuries to their feet, the nuclear safety agency and the plant operator said.
The three male workers were exposed to radiation amounting to 173 to 180 millisievert at around 12:10 p.m. while laying cable underground at the No. 3 reactor's turbine building. The two workers of plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s affiliated firm had their feet under water while carrying out the work, according to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.
The two, who were diagnosed as having sustained beta ray burn injuries at a Fukushima hospital, will later be sent to the National Institute of Radiological Sciences in Chiba Prefecture, the agency said.
TEPCO said radioactive water may have seeped through their radiation protective gear. The injuries are caused by direct exposure to beta rays, the utility added.
The level is lower than the maximum limit of 250 millisievert per year set by the health ministry for workers tackling the ongoing emergency at the Fukushima plant.
So far, one worker who was injured following a hydrogen explosion at the No. 3 reactor on March 14 was found to have been exposed to radiation amounting to over 150 millisievert.
Those workers really are risking their lives.
Sigh... I hate it when writers throw in the "rays" word - it's so meaningless and confusing.
"Beta" particles are helium nuclei, and are the usual emitted products from spontaneous fission of many unstable isotopes, including all the Uranium isotopes.
If the workers' feet sustained burns that means large does of beta particles... which implies a significant amount of dissolved radioactive isotopes in the water... which means that indeed some of source material supposedly contained within the zirconium alloy clad rods has leaked out, which means the zirconium alloy cladding, at least somewhere, has broken or flaked off.
Which we already knew because something has to be the source of all that unstable iodine and cesium floating around Japan.
This also goes to show how awkward the "sieverts" scale is - it's too general. I realize why it was invented, but electrons, protons, nuclei, neutrons, and light really are different from each other.
Earlier reports on Kyodo speak of "neutron rays" - gag. They have indeed detected some extra neutrons at certain test sites, but the levels are very low. Neutrons are emitted usually under chain reaction conditions, not the usual spontaneous fission of U.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:21:41am |
re: #108 boxhead
A survey published last year of the political leanings of sports fans showed that only two groups were more Democrat than Republican - NBA fans and.... WWE fans.
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:23:16am |
re: #110 freetoken
"Beta" particles are helium nuclei,
Alpha particles are hi-energy helium nuclei; Beta radiation is hi-energy electrons emitted from nuclei.
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boxhead Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:24:45am |
re: #111 freetoken
A survey published last year of the political leanings of sports fans showed that only two groups were more Democrat than Republican - NBA fans and... WWE fans.
whhhaaaat? I will give you NBA, but the latter scrambles my cortex. :)
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:24:55am |
re: #107 boxhead
As far as I understand, a child who has a US Citizen as a mother is a Citizen with full Rights. We know Obama's mother is a US Citizen, so why does anything else matter? Oh and also, the State of Hawaii has officially said Obama was born there.
what gives?
They want to repeal the 14th amendment.
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boxhead Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:31:41am |
re: #114 freetoken
They want to repeal the 14th amendment.
good luck with that one... they don't have the numbers and never will. Of course making all sorts of noise and shenanigans over this issue is great press.
besides, could you imagine trying to figure out who is a citizen and who is not if they were successful? Or will they be happy with grandfathering in all the current citizens? My father was born in Hawaii before it was a State. My mother was born in Germany. Me, USA, so where would I fit?
BTW2, The proposed legislation would not supersede the 14th so no chance of it hurting Obama in 2012.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:40:53am |
My wife had to get up early this morning.
(read)
I HAD TO GET UP EARLY THIS MORNING.
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Kruk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:45:58am |
re: #114 freetoken
They want to repeal the 14th amendment.
They've been wanting that for a while:
[Link: kevincraig.us...]
(bad craziness warning)
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:49:33am |
re: #112 abolitionist
whoops... you're right. That's what I get for trying to listen to a lecture, listen to NHK (trying hard to remember Japanese on the fly), and reading Kyodo.
Still, my point remains... though it now makes more sense why they have burns on their feet (electrons are easily stopped by your skin cells). And, the source is likely the decay of the cesium and iodine dissolved in the water.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:13:23am |
So, Liz Taylor died. Who's left of the Golden Age Movie Stars?
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:22:52am |
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:23:14am |
re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, Liz Taylor died. Who's left of the Golden Age Movie Stars?
Mickey Rooney.
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:27:12am |
re: #124 researchok
Boy's Town with Rooney and Spenser Tracy was on TV a while back.
Look for National Velvet with him and Liz Taylor to be on soon. My dad saw that as a kid.
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:30:23am |
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:34:45am |
re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you mean from the pre-war or war era - I don't know.
From the 1950's, if you broaden your definition of "stars", there are some like Jerry Lewis.
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:37:12am |
re: #129 freetoken
If you mean from the pre-war or war era - I don't know.
From the 1950's, if you broaden your definition of "stars", there are some like Jerry Lewis.
Sean Connery
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:39:57am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:40:33am |
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:40:50am |
re: #129 freetoken
If you mean from the pre-war or war era - I don't know.
From the 1950's, if you broaden your definition of "stars", there are some like Jerry Lewis.
Kirk Douglas
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:43:45am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:44:41am |
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:45:44am |
Not a whole lot of the great movie stars left.
And they won't be replaced. That era is over.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:46:20am |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ok, how about Joan Fontaine then?
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:48:51am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:49:26am |
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:51:26am |
OK, here's a big name real deal movie star:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:51:32am |
Maureen O'Hara and John Wayne... best screen kiss ever (IMO)
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:51:59am |
re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Maureen O'Hara and John Wayne... best screen kiss ever (IMO)
Yeah, that's right up there.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:52:41am |
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:53:35am |
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:56:52am |
re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I freaking loved Maureen O'Hara in The Quiet Man.
Then I had the misfortune to see an interview with her, where she was insufferably pretentious and precious.
I prefer her character.
Great movie.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:57:30am |
re: #147 freetoken
As of 2011, Cooper's Oscar-nominated performance in Skippy is the earliest nomination (1931) in any Academy Award category in which the nominee is still living. He is also the youngest performer to be nominated in a leading role in the Academy's entire history.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:58:20am |
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:58:41am |
re: #145 researchok
Best and Most Memorable Film Kisses of All Time in Cinematic History
And in a way, one of the worst, You broke my heart Fredo. (Godfather)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:59:28am |
Gosh, think about it.
Andy Griffith's breakout movie. 1957.
He's a million years old now.
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:03:32am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gosh, think about it.
Andy Griffith's breakout movie. 1957.
He's a million years old now.
No Time For Sergeants ? (Don Knots was the shrink)
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:05:07am |
Andy Griffith, Jerry Lewis, Ernie Borgnine, Christopher Lee, Sean Connery - all really got their start in the 1950's (though Lewis and Lee started in films in 48).
So, from the classic era we have left:
Kirk Douglas
de Havilands (Olivia and Joan)
Jackie Cooper
Maureen O'hara
Mickey Rooney
I wonder who'll be the last to go?
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:05:56am |
re: #154 freetoken
Andy Griffith, Jerry Lewis, Ernie Borgnine, Christopher Lee, Sean Connery - all really got their start in the 1950's (though Lewis and Lee started in films in 48).
So, from the classic era we have left:
Kirk Douglas
de Havilands (Olivia and Joan)
Jackie Cooper
Maureen O'hara
Mickey RooneyI wonder who'll be the last to go?
Now that's a betting pool.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:06:42am |
re: #154 freetoken
Kirk was phenomenal at the Oscars a few weeks ago. Played the horny old bastard very well.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:07:19am |
re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Kirk was phenomenal at the Oscars a few weeks ago. Played the horny old bastard very well.
Probably didn't take any acting.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:08:06am |
re: #154 freetoken
Now that I'm thinking of it, Kirk Douglas is the only one on that list with even close to the name recognition of Liz Taylor.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:09:52am |
re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah, probably, though as far as acting success that short list was just as memorable.
Liz remained a celeb through her life, long after her acting career was over.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:10:16am |
re: #154 freetoken
We do have a bunch of great actors these days, too. They just aren't always on the big-ticket items.
Like Hugh Laurie, Stephen Fry, Richard Adeoye, Robert Downey Jr, Christopher Walken, Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Michael Caine, Albert Finney, etc. etc.
We're not going to run out anytime soon.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:13:08am |
re: #161 Obdicut
Oh, I agree, there are many good actors today.
Yet there are very few who remain from the founding generation of talkies and color, people who would work for the Warner Bros or Howard Hughes, etc. Pioneers are always remembered, even if those who come after them are technically better.
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sagehen Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:13:20am |
re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, Liz Taylor died. Who's left of the Golden Age Movie Stars?
Debbie Reynolds was on a show talking about her, so that's one that's left.
(best line: "everybody loved her. women loved her, men loved her, my husband loved her.")
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:14:41am |
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:15:23am |
re: #163 sagehen
Delightful actress, but she is another star of the '50's (though perhaps the most likable of those 50's stars.)
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:16:45am |
re: #162 freetoken
I got to hear Harry Carey Jr. speak after a showing of Wagonmaster at the Castro theater. He was really charming and very, very interesting.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:20:26am |
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Debbie's fifties era.
Tammy and the Bachelor (1957). Had to look it up--Leslie Neilsen was the freakin' bachelor. Morning, all.
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sagehen Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:20:49am |
re: #147 freetoken
He's the reason California children, if they're allowed to work at anything lucrative, have 80% of their wages placed in trust and they don't get it until they come of age.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:21:33am |
re: #166 freetoken
Henry Fonda, Lee Marvin, Victor McLaglen, Roddy McDowell, John Carradine, Andy Devine, Jimmy Stewart, Edmond O'Brien.
Those are all just John Ford regulars.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:22:43am |
re: #171 Obdicut
Alive... we're looking for ones still breathing.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:23:48am |
Grace Kelly was the Anti-Liz. The nuns liked Grace Kelly.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:23:56am |
re: #170 sagehen
He's the reason California children, if they're allowed to work at anything lucrative, have 80% of their wages placed in trust and they don't get it until they come of age.
I think you mean Jackie Coogan, not Jackie Cooper.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:25:28am |
re: #171 Obdicut
You (for some odd reason) just reminded me of a Steven Wright line...
"I have two very rare photographs. One is a picture of Houdini locking his keys in his car. The other is a rare photograph of Norman Rockwell beating up a child."
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:25:53am |
re: #172 freetoken
Oh, they're all still alive. The great Hollywood legends never really die. When the time comes, Howard Hughes surfaces in his golden submarine and takes them away to Woland's perpetual variety show.
/
I can't think of anyone else from that era that's still alive, either.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:26:39am |
re: #176 Obdicut
Yeah, six names. That's all we can come up with for pre-WWII movie stars still kicking.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:29:09am |
re: #177 freetoken
Well, hell, even Harry Carey, Jr. doesn't count-- his acting career started right after the war.
I'd like to note that Carey has also been married to the same woman since '44.
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sagehen Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:33:47am |
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:34:35am |
re: #179 laZardo
She is, however, the dean of TV actresses, in her 62nd year in TV.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:35:58am |
It's finally here...
"Tiny amounts of fallout from Japan detected in Colorado"
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:37:28am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:39:47am |
re: #177 freetoken
Yeah, six names. That's all we can come up with for pre-WWII movie stars still kicking.
Shirley Temple.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:40:33am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:41:52am |
re: #183 Walter L. Newton
It's finally here...
"Tiny amounts of fallout from Japan detected in Colorado"
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
My skin is falling off?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:42:18am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:44:45am |
re: #189 Walter L. Newton
My skin is falling off?
Now this is getting serious...
More U.S. states find traces of radiation from Japan
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:44:50am |
re: #139 researchok
I just saw Ernest Borgnine in a movie. Now I can't remember what movie it was. Some action flick. Salt?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:45:44am |
re: #193 Alouette
I just saw Ernest Borgnine in a movie. Now I can't remember what movie it was. Some action flick. Salt?
Red
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:46:33am |
re: #193 Alouette
I just saw Ernest Borgnine in a movie. Now I can't remember what movie it was. Some action flick. Salt?
He was the curator in the document archives.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:47:17am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:48:04am |
re: #193 Alouette
I just saw Ernest Borgnine in a movie. Now I can't remember what movie it was. Some action flick. Salt?
I saw "Paul" yesterday... it was more sentimental then "take your breath" away funny... I think it's worth a first look, if you can get a bargain matinee... otherwise, wait for the DVD or Netflix or something like that... I enjoyed it.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:50:49am |
Morning all, I'm on the way out but felt compelled to do a Sheriff Arpaio drive-by:
Steven Seagal, Sheriff Raid Valley Home In Tank
[Link: www.kpho.com...]
PHOENIX -- Sheriff Joe Arpaio rolled out the tanks to take down a man suspected of cockfighting.West Valley residents in the neighborhood are crying foul after armored vehicles, including a tank, rolled into their neighborhood to make the bust.
Neighbor Debra Ross was so worried she called 911 and went outside where a nearby home had its windows blown out, was crawling with dozens of SWAT members in full gear, armored vehicles and a bomb robot.
“When the tank came in and pushed the wall over and you see what's in there, and all it is, is a bunch of chickens,” Ross said.
In a massive show of force on Monday, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office executed a search warrant and arrested the homeowner, Jesus Llovera, on charges of suspected cockfighting.
Llovera was alone in the house at the time of the arrest, and he was unarmed.
“I think taxpayers should be shocked,” said Robert Campus, Llovera’s attorney. Campus said he believes the operation costs tens of thousands of dollars.
Deputies had no probable cause to believe Llovera was armed or dangerous, according to Campus.
Called in the SWAT team and an APC for an unarmed rooster raiser. I think that classifies as "excessive".
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:51:48am |
re: #198 RogueOne
Morning all, I'm on the way out but felt compelled to do a Sheriff Arpaio drive-by:
Steven Seagal, Sheriff Raid Valley Home In Tank
[Link: www.kpho.com...]Called in the SWAT team and an APC for an unarmed rooster raiser. I think that classifies as "excessive".
That kind of firepower should only be used to break up a dog fight.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:52:58am |
re: #199 Alouette
That kind of firepower should only be used to break up a dog fight.
Or Monte Carlo night at the catholic church down the street. Those old ladies can be dangerous.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:53:59am |
Have to run, see you people later. Stay off the streets in Phoenix!
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:55:48am |
re: #198 RogueOne
As a former Arizonan, I want to try to put Sherrif Joe into persepective: people want "law and order" while at the same time they want low taxes.
Sherrif Joe is what comes of it.
We already had a case in Indiana, I believe, where the governor explained that the state must either reduce minimum sentencing laws or find money to build more prisons, he makes one contingent on the other.
Arizona does not have politicians willing to face this obvious truth.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 4:59:22am |
I've never seen this happen before, but it probably does... I was looking up the NEXT book (book 12) in a series I am reading (currently reading the 11th book)... and the damn description of the 12th book has a MAJOR spoiler in regards to the story line in the 11th book... a plot point I have yet to get to, and a plot point which is probably the pivotal part of the arc in book 11.
Bummer.
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sagehen Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:11:55am |
re: #198 RogueOne
Morning all, I'm on the way out but felt compelled to do a Sheriff Arpaio drive-by:
Steven Seagal, Sheriff Raid Valley Home In Tank
[Link: www.kpho.com...]Called in the SWAT team and an APC for an unarmed rooster raiser. I think that classifies as "excessive".
And they didn't even turn the roosters into roasters.
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abolitionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:31:10am |
re: #198 RogueOne
The subject was sleeping, and not armed. 115 chickens were euthanized. Thousands of $ cost & damages.
The video [Link: www.kpho.com...]
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:37:13am |
Just imagine if he had been awake and his chickens armed...
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Flounder Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:43:44am |
Good morning all! Anyone here have an I-Pad? I'm thinkin of getting gen-1 today, any thoughts?
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laZardo Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:45:23am |
re: #207 Shropshire_Slasher
Good morning all! Anyone here have an I-Pad? I'm thinkin of getting gen-1 today, any thoughts?
You wanna get a Gen-1 iPad? *snicker*
/best impression of a macfan i can muster tonight
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treasured people Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:56:14am |
The daily diet of hateful Islamist propaganda has had its intended effect. A terrorist attack has struck the Jerusalem bus station: At least 25 people were hurt and one woman was killed after an explosive device was detonated in a phone booth near the Convention Center. A worker saw “a yeshiva student running around with his legs on fire.” The Popular Resistance Committees, a Gaza terror group, has lauded the attack.
The bombing occurred just hours after Gaza militants fired two Iranian rockets at the southern city of Be’er Sheva, a dusty corner of the world in the Negev desert. The Israelis are the only Western population forced to live with their eyes turned to heaven, sending their children to school by different buses.
The background to the Jerusalem bombing is, on one side, that of the “Arab revolution,” and on the other side that of the most traditional form of hatred. A new Facebook page calling for a “third intifada” was just created — on Sunday afternoon, the page had nearly 140,000 “Likes.” The organizers’ goal is to reach a million. In the West Bank Jewish community of Itamar, terrorists butchered an entire Israeli family. Word has it that a meeting has been held in Khartoum by members of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, attended by Palestinians, Egyptians, Tunisians, and even English people, where they supposedly coordinated a large-scale international plan for terrorist attacks, to be headed by Iran, the primary target of which would be Israel. Just two months ago, PA president Mahmoud Abbas sent a clear message of support for terror when he awarded $2,000 to the family of a terrorist who attacked Israeli soldiers. Football tournaments, songs, schools, and squares were recently named after female Palestinian terrorists. The Israeli army just seized a freighter ship with dozens of tons of weaponry from Tehran headed for Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Two Iranian navy vessels passed through Egypt’s Suez Canal for the first time since Iran’s 1979 revolution. And a conference titled “National and Islamic Solidarity for the Future of Palestine” was jult held in Tehran. It was headed by President Ahmadinejad and a nasty group of terrorists with a decades-old record of murdering Jewish civilians: Khaled Mashaal, the chairman of Hamas; Ramadan Shalah, the secretary-general of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist group; and Ahmed Jibril, of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
The Jerusalem attack is a reminder to all of us that in the eyes of Islamists and terrorists, Israel itself is just one big settlement. The conflict is about Israel’s existence, not its size. Itamar’s “colonists” are tiny figures in the Middle Eastern conflict — but on a clear day from Itamar’s hills you can see both Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. A bombing just destroyed a bus in the holy city. The rockets will fall in Tel Aviv in the next war. In the mindset of the Islamic multitudes and Western appeasers, the goal is very clear: They want an Israel that packs up and goes away.
— Giulio Meotti
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:57:49am |
How is this okay?
Florida Governor Rick Scott, who owns Solantic, an urgent care center chain that offers drug screens, has ordered random drug testing for state employees and applicants.
And he wants to privatize Medicare so that it's just vouchers used to pay for direct medical care and insurance, and he owns urgent care clinics.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:02:43am |
And this ain't good:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
According to documents from Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco), the company repeatedly missed safety checks over a 10-year period up to two weeks before the 11 March disaster, and allowed uranium fuel rods to pile up inside the 40-year-old facility.
When the plant was struck by a huge earthquake and tsunami, its reactors, designed by US scientists 50 years ago, contained the equivalent of almost six years of highly radioactive uranium fuel produced by the facility, according to a presentation Tepco gave to the International Atomic Energy Agency and later posted on the company’s website.
The revelations will add to pressure on Tepco to explain why, under its cost-cutting chief executive Masataka Shimizu, it opted to save money by storing the spent fuel on site rather than invest in safer storage options.
It really didn't have to be that bad at the reactor plant. They kept the spent fuel there when they should have been storing it off-site.
When disaster struck earlier this month, the plant contained almost 4,000 uranium fuel assemblies kept in pools of circulating water – the equivalent of more than three times the amount of radioactive material usually kept in the active cores of the plant's reactors.
This is why disposal is one of the most critical issues of nuclear power.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:06:52am |
re: #211 Obdicut
And this ain't good:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
It really didn't have to be that bad at the reactor plant. They kept the spent fuel there when they should have been storing it off-site.
After being used, the rods are usually stored in water for years, until they are cool enough (and enough of the short lived isotopes have decayed) before they are sent off to dry storage.
And yes, this is the big problem with nuclear power as now practiced, and not just in Japan.
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Political Atheist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:10:26am |
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Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:16:05am |
re: #210 Obdicut
How is this okay?
And he wants to privatize Medicare so that it's just vouchers used to pay for direct medical care and insurance, and he owns urgent care clinics.
I predict he is going to be a disaster, but it will take a few years to become clear to many of the morons who voted for him.
Here's an example of his self image, which doesn't strike me as impressive. (Perhaps he needs to have a reminder of what his current job is when he gets dressed in the morning).
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:16:39am |
Seriously, why isn't this talked about more as an alternative?
There are businesses that have converted their entire fleet of vehicles to natural gas. All cars could run on it..
It's cleaner, less polluting than oil (gasoline).
Much cleaner than coal.
There's plenty of it.
Electricity for running vehicles is not efficient, and simply moves any pollution production from the VEHICLE to the production source.
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:17:40am |
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:18:14am |
Okay...now my brain hurts. Never, never, NEVER watch Sean Hannity first thing in the morning. What a fucktard! And Donald Trump's an idiot too.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:18:57am |
re: #215 reine.de.tout
The fracking process for getting it out of the ground isn't too good for the planet though.
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laZardo Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:19:01am |
re: #215 reine.de.tout
Seriously, why isn't this talked about more as an alternative?
There are businesses that have converted their entire fleet of vehicles to natural gas. All cars could run on it..
It's cleaner, less polluting than oil (gasoline).
Much cleaner than coal.
There's plenty of it.
Electricity for running vehicles is not efficient, and simply moves any pollution production from the VEHICLE to the production source.
Because like any sort of power source tapped from underneath the earth's crust (save for geothermal), it will eventually run out.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:19:21am |
re: #215 reine.de.tout
Probably the main reason is the space that the tank takes up for a reasonable mileage, but also the problem with filling station far apart. Commercial vehicles that have set routes and headquarter do do it.
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laZardo Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:19:30am |
re: #217 darthstar
Okay...now my brain hurts. Never, never, NEVER watch Sean Hannity first thing in the morning. What a fucktard! And Donald Trump's an idiot too.
Speaking of which, we get FNC on cable here. I need to save my parents from it. D:
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:20:59am |
re: #213 Rightwingconspirator
re: #212 freetoken
Points well to why we need Yucca mountain. The perfect became the enemy of the good. Yucca is not perfect but it sure beats on site at San Onofre.
I decided(and lamented to a colleague) yesterday Yucca mountain can't be used for nuclear waste because the company I work for has already filled it with the extra paperwork (think TPS reports) required to do simple tasks.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:21:34am |
re: #221 laZardo
Speaking of which, we get FNC on cable here. I need to save my parents from it. D:
V-Chip...it's there for a reason.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:23:42am |
re: #223 darthstar
V-Chip...it's there for a reason.
Oh, I just gave myself a good idea. From now on, when I take my car somewhere (tires, service, etc.) I'll just set a lock on the Fox channels with the parental control feature the cable companies provide.
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Political Atheist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:26:57am |
re: #215 reine.de.tout
Good morning. I could not agree more. The engines of vehicles that run on natural gas look really good inside on tear down after major miles have passed. Lots less carbon crud.
LA gets a lot of electricity from gas. For some dumb reason we have a low % of cars that run on methane (natural gas) and a lot of methane. Heck, it has enough energy when compressed and boosted with oxygen to melt platinum. And as flammable gases go it's pretty safe, easy to handle. re: #218 darthstar
Oil wells often flare off gas. That should be in cars or electricity plants. Instead of fracking.
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NervyNews Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:29:11am |
in case you missed it, the Big Apple Super Spaghetti Subway Brawl (one time for yo' mind.)
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:33:59am |
re: #225 Rightwingconspirator
Good morning. I could not agree more. The engines of vehicles that run on natural gas look really good inside on tear down after major miles have passed. Lots less carbon crud.
LA gets a lot of electricity from gas. For some dumb reason we have a low % of cars that run on methane (natural gas) and a lot of methane. Heck, it has enough energy when compressed and boosted with oxygen to melt platinum. And as flammable gases go it's pretty safe, easy to handle. re: #218 darthstar
Oil wells often flare off gas. That should be in cars or electricity plants. Instead of fracking.
MUCH less wear and tear on vehicles; they could last for years and years. Which may be why automakers might not be keen on it.
And Darth, the means to get it out is ongoing right now. It's the same way we get our oil. And except for incidents like the BP incident, the regs on what they can do as re: doing any disposal that would pollute, are very very strict, and have been for quite a long time.
I suspect part of the reason is that the current world bogeymen, the dreaded oil companies, already have the ability to produce the gas. And folks want the oil companies out of business.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:34:07am |
Know who else is in a birther mood? Donald Trump. /you are.... FIRED.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:35:55am |
re: #227 reine.de.tout
MUCH less wear and tear on vehicles; they could last for years and years. Which may be why automakers might not be keen on it.
And Darth, the means to get it out is ongoing right now. It's the same way we get our oil. And except for incidents like the BP incident, the regs on what they can do as re: doing any disposal that would pollute, are very very strict, and have been for quite a long time.
I suspect part of the reason is that the current world bogeymen, the dreaded oil companies, already have the ability to produce the gas. And folks want the oil companies out of business.
It's a conspiracy!
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:37:40am |
re: #229 Alouette
It's a conspiracy!
Always!
LOL.
Seriously, I can't figure out why we don't ever hear of this as an alternate energy source. It's available, it can be produced NOW with existing technology, delivery to consumers would have to be worked out (natural gas stations?) - it's cleaner, more efficient energy. But I rarely hear of it mentioned.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:38:47am |
re: #220 Naso Tang
Probably the main reason is the space that the tank takes up for a reasonable mileage, but also the problem with filling station far apart. Commercial vehicles that have set routes and headquarter do do it.
I think you've nailed one or two of the problems, right there.
But I also think those could be worked out.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:39:16am |
re: #222 darthstar
Even if Harry Reid didn't block the way, it would be at least another five years before nuclear waste could be moved to Yucca - and it would still lack the capacity to handle all of the nation's nuclear wastes.
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:42:10am |
Sean just likes Trump because they both belong to the weird big hair club.
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Political Atheist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:43:18am |
re: #232 lawhawk
Harry Reid has this dead wrong. That waste will be fuel for the future, as technology advances in the field. Reprocessing is key.
Excerpt
All of the electricity used by a typical American in a year can be generated by just three inches of one of the 14-foot rods of uranium dioxide used to power nuclear reactors. Yet when that rod, which has the diameter of a Bic pen, is "spent" and set aside as nuclear waste, less than 10% of the energy in the rod has been turned into electricity.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:44:30am |
re: #218 darthstar
The fracking process for getting it out of the ground isn't too good for the planet though.
And Frackville, PA is only about 10 miles from Centralia...
;)
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:44:39am |
re: #233 Thanos
Sean just likes Trump because they both belong to the weird big hair club.
I keep thinking Donald Trump certainly is well enough off that he could find someone to give him a good haircut. Makes no sense to me that he can't.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:47:04am |
What's with all the missiles being fired from Gaza?
@IDFSpokesperson
IDF
9th Grad missile fired from Gaza today lands near Ashdod.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:47:46am |
re: #234 Rightwingconspirator
There is one significant drawback on reprocessing, particularly if used in a breeder reactor - one of the byproducts is the production of plutonium, which is a weapons proliferation issue. That isn't to say that the problem can't be overcome, but there are drawbacks as well.
The Times also had an editorial today about a hybrid fusion/fission reactor that would eliminate much of the nuclear waste because the fusion reaction would transmute the isotopes to much less hazardous forms, and that the safety factor was increased because once the fusion ignition is shut down, the entire nuclear reaction stops. China's got a prototype in the works.
Pure fusion reactors have been in the works for decades without any sign of commercial prospects.
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Political Atheist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:48:26am |
re: #237 reine.de.tout
The Palestinian militants have big plans afoot. I fear Lebanon and Gaza at the same time. All re armed with more modern missiles and anti tank weapons.
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:50:27am |
Courageous Teller Asks Bank Robber for Two Forms of ID
A Dallas Wells Fargo bank teller risked her life and thousands of dollars on a bet that a robber at her window would be stupid enough to comply with her request that he show two forms of identification.
But sure enough, her bet paid off! The robber, 49-year-old Nathan Wayne Pugh of Sachse, Texas, actually took the time to search through his pockets and wallet to produce the IDs -- which turned out to be his Wells Fargo debit card and a state ID card. Then the teller stalled even more by very slowly copying the information.
Thanks to her efforts, authorities had ample time to arrive on the scene.
Pugh was apprehended when he tried to flee the bank with $800. He was later found guilty of bank robbery and sentenced to an eight year prison term. He was already on parole for two other aggravated robberies.There's no word on whether or not the teller was rewarded for her savvy risk. Regardless, she gets bragging rights and a great story to tell her kids.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:50:36am |
re: #212 freetoken
It's a huge problem also because the spent fuel pools at many nuclear power plants in the US are at full capacity- and some are at overcapacity as originally designed. The capacities were increased as per NRC rules and advisement because there is no where else to put the materials.
Fukushima is going to put a renewed emphasis on the safety of the containment at the storage pools - precisely because they were not built with the same kind of structural safety measures as the reactor cores themselves - and Fukushima revealed that the pools could pose a tremendous hazard in their own right if backup/coolant systems fail.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:51:21am |
From the "WTF is wrong with people" Department:
Woman sentenced after streaming sex abuse of 2-year-old daughter over webcam
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:52:14am |
re: #240 researchok
hehe.
Courageous teller, and really stupid crook.
Very bad combination for the crook.
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Political Atheist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:52:45am |
re: #242 reine.de.tout
That should have been life without. O.M.G.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:05:05am |
re: #225 Rightwingconspirator
I'm not sure why oil cos don't save the gas they flare off of their wells...but I believe it has something to do with the pressure build up in the lines...trying to contain that gas would push them beyond their current safety limits.
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:05:14am |
re: #236 reine.de.tout
I've always thought that he is really a misdirected wannabe Televangelist, thus the patented TV hair...
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:08:30am |
Morning all.
Just watching the news while having my coffee. This story came on.
[Link: ottawa.ctv.ca...]
A bullet, fired from the house next door went through several walls and through the young daughters headboard. Luckily she had decided to sleep in another room, otherwise it would have hit her. I saw the the live shots. The hole was right where her head would have been.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:08:57am |
re: #240 researchok
Cute story. I had a roommate in college who worked in a bank. She said they're supposed to hand over the money quickly and quietly any time there's a robbery and simply get the person to leave the bank. I suspect this woman's bosses applauded her bravery and then reminded her of bank policy. Banks don't like getting sued by bystanders injured because someone played hero and pissed off an unstable robber.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:09:25am |
By now, folks know that the UN and other Palestinian flacks are claiming that Israel is depriving Palestinians of educational opportunities. Where is UN outrage for Palestinians depriving Israelis of the same - every time there's mortar and rocket attacks, Israelis have to disrupt schools, day care and other facilities - sending kids to bomb shelters - in the schools themselves, or parents keep kids from schools because they are frequently targeted by the terrorists with their mortars and kassams. School attendance is down in Southern Israel precisely because the numbers of kassams and mortars are increasing since the beginning of the year.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:14:37am |
Holy heck. There was a child porn bust in New Brunswick. Four men were arrested and lots of stuff seized. At one location they got over ONE MILLION pictures!!
o_O
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:15:03am |
re: #245 darthstar
I'm not sure why oil cos don't save the gas they flare off of their wells...but I believe it has something to do with the pressure build up in the lines...trying to contain that gas would push them beyond their current safety limits.
It has to do with there being no market for it, so they flare off the excess instead of relieving the pressure in a way that will keep it, I think.
If the purpose of a particular well is OIL, that's what they're set up to produce.
Wouldn't take much, I wouldn't think, to make a change to keep that natural gas as well
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:16:08am |
re: #249 lawhawk
You paint a pretty bleak and dramatic picture of people in Southern Israel cowering in fear with their children locked away in bunkers and shelters. The people I know who travel there regularly tell me it's not exactly like that. I don't know who to believe...you or them. I haven't been there (and don't have a big desire to go in the current climate), but I hear it's actually a nice place to visit.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:17:22am |
re: #214 Naso Tang
I predict he is going to be a disaster, but it will take a few years to become clear to many of the morons who voted for him.
Here's an example of his self image, which doesn't strike me as impressive. (Perhaps he needs to have a reminder of what his current job is when he gets dressed in the morning).
HA! I saw Congresswoman Wilson on MSNBC yesterday wearing a white sequined cowboy hat. What's the deal with all the cowboy wear in FL?
GIS comes up with some great ones:
[Link: www.google.com...]
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:18:07am |
re: #246 Thanos
I've always thought that he is really a misdirected wannabe Televangelist, thus the patented TV hair...
A Jimmy Swaggart.
I worked once with a man who could have been Swaggart's twin.
Just after Swaggart's first prostitute scandal, he and I had to attend a meeting and were riding to the meeting with another woman from the office, and we got stopped at a red light at a multi-lane intersection.
The people in the cars on either side of us kept trying to look at us without looking at us - you could see them muttering and pointing - we couldn't figure out what was wrong with the car we were in.
Finally the other woman in the car with us pointed out, "A.P. they think you're Swaggart and we're your gals!!".
LOL. I think that's exactly what was happening.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:18:56am |
re: #224 darthstar
Oh, I just gave myself a good idea. From now on, when I take my car somewhere (tires, service, etc.) I'll just set a lock on the Fox channels with the parental control feature the cable companies provide.
I've blocked out all the country channels on mine.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:19:59am |
re: #246 Thanos
I've always thought that he is really a misdirected wannabe Televangelist, thus the patented TV hair...
You're dead on. The thing to remember that the god that he is promoting so hard is himself.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:24:13am |
re: #252 darthstar
Yes, it's a great place to visit, but the schools in the region have been turned into bunkers because of the rocket/mortar threat - and that is more the case the closer you get to Gaza. Israelis are trying to keep their ordinary routines intact, but the attacks are taking their toll.
Following the escalation in Israel's south, officials in the southern cities of Beersheba and Ashdod decided to keep schools closed Thursday. Tuesday evening, a rocket was fired at Ashdod – Israel's 5th largest city – for the first time since Operation Cast Lead more than two years ago.
While students in the southern town of Ashkelon are supposed to attend classes, the Parents' Committee there urged local residents to keep their children at home for fear of rocket attacks.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:24:21am |
re: #205 abolitionist
The subject was sleeping, and not armed. 115 chickens were euthanized. Thousands of $ cost & damages.
The video [Link: www.kpho.com...]
I'm sure having Steven Seagal there with the cameras running had nothing to do with the excessive response:
[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]
Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office spokesman Colonel John Fortunato related Normand's reply to my inquiry as to whether or not Seagal was "on loan" to Maricopa County."[Seagal] was facing an internal affairs investigation immediately following the outcome of his lawsuit," said Normand via his spokesman. "And he refused to return to Jefferson Parish, at which time he tendered his resignation."
This directly contradicts Seagal's statement to the press at the Laveen "cockfight" bust, after Sheriff Joe Arpaio identified Seagal as a member of Arpaio's posse.
"I mean I don't really know about the posse," KTAR quotes Seagal as saying. "I know I'm on loan out from Louisiana."
But the JPSO says Seagal is no longer a reserve officer or affiliated with Jefferson Parish, due to Seagal's resignation.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:31:21am |
re: #201 RogueOne
Have to run, see you people later. Stay off the streets in Phoenix!
Phoenix is safe...just don't challenge anyone to a cock fight while you're there. Apparently they frown on that. Sorry kids.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:32:40am |
re: #258 RogueOne
I'm sure having Steven Seagal there with the cameras running had nothing to do with the excessive response:
[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]
What's weird is that a few years ago wasn't Seagal a bit of a flaming liberal?
I mean who could forget that he co-produced and directed "On Deadly Ground" where he takes on an evil oil company in Alaska?
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:37:04am |
6.8 Earthquake hits Myanmar, U.S. Geological Survey says. Shaking was felt as far away as Bangkok.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:37:33am |
re: #260 jamesfirecat
What's weird is that a few years ago wasn't Seagal a bit of a flaming liberal?
I mean who could forget that he co-produced and directed "On Deadly Ground" where he takes on an evil oil company in Alaska?
Not sure about the liberal part but he's certainly a flaming douche and a tool. I'm waiting for the episode where he gets his ass kicked before I tune in.
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laZardo Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:37:57am |
re: #257 lawhawk
"At least the Zionists have schools to send their kids to!"
/i need to punch something
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:38:35am |
Honestly, I think Arpaio cares more about his image as "America's toughest sheriff" than actually being an effective law enforcement officer. And frankly he's not America's toughest sheriff, he's America's dumbest one.
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Nevertires Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:44:31am |
re: #260 jamesfirecat
I suspect his only motivations are/were: paycheck and "kicking ass".
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:45:08am |
re: #265 Nevertires
I suspect his only motivations are/were: paycheck and "kicking ass".
And publicity and attention.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:47:16am |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:47:41am |
re: #266 Alouette
And publicity and attention.
Well it got his name in the papers, that's for sure. When's the last time he was in a movie that got much publicity?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:49:31am |
re: #268 HappyWarrior
Well it got his name in the papers, that's for sure. When's the last time he was in a movie that got much publicity?
I don't think he has ever been in a movie that didn't utterly suck.
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Nevertires Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:50:59am |
I haven't seen Steven Seagal's new gig - is it even still on? But I find Mr. that he is up there with the distinguished likes of Dog the Bounty Hunter and eminent thinkers like that.
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Nevertires Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:51:37am |
re: #270 Nevertires
I haven't seen Steven Seagal's new gig - is it even still on? But I find
Mr.that he is up there with the distinguished likes of Dog the Bounty Hunter and eminent thinkers like that.
PIMF
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Nevertires Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:52:32am |
re: #267 RogueOne
All he needs now is to add dentist and lawyer and he will be set.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:54:36am |
re: #270 Nevertires
I haven't seen Steven Seagal's new gig - is it even still on? But I find Mr. that he is up there with the distinguished likes of Dog the Bounty Hunter and eminent thinkers like that.
I would love to see you say that to his face.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:54:53am |
re: #272 Nevertires
All he needs now is to add dentist and lawyer and he will be set.
He works part-time in the medical field:
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:57:08am |
re: #273 Walter L. Newton
I would love to see you say that to his face.
He's a poseur and I'll say it right to his face!
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:57:51am |
re: #269 Alouette
I don't think he has ever been in a movie that didn't utterly suck.
Under Siege.
If only for Tommy Lee Jones playing so wonderfully against type.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:58:18am |
re: #276 RogueOne
He's a poseur and I'll say it right to his face!
Go for it. What the matter, got your testosterone up? Geeesssh. Tough boy.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 7:59:38am |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
Go for it. What the matter, got your testosterone up? Geeesssh. Tough boy.
I was mostly j/k but he's one of those people I can't stand. If they want a good reality show I say dump his ass off in the middle of Detroit after dark and see if he can make it out alive.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:01:30am |
re: #279 RogueOne
I was mostly j/k but he's one of those people I can't stand. If they want a good reality show I say dump his ass off in the middle of Detroit after dark and see if he can make it out alive.
I'm talking about Seagal... who the hell are you talking about?
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:02:43am |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
"I'll say it right to his face!" is a Donnie Baker (Bob and Tom) line:
Shut Up Randy
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:03:01am |
CNN Exclusive: Bachmann to form exploratory committee in June, possibly earlier
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
This is a dumb woman.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:03:03am |
re: #279 RogueOne
I was mostly j/k but he's one of those people I can't stand. If they want a good reality show I say dump his ass off in the middle of Detroit after dark and see if he can make it out alive.
You could just change the channel, ya know!
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:03:26am |
re: #280 Walter L. Newton
Mr. Steven "I trained CIA killers" Seagal. He's a poseur.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:03:50am |
re: #269 Alouette
I don't think he has ever been in a movie that didn't utterly suck.
Heh, wouldn't know since I've never seen any of his movies. I remember back in the mid-late 90's when action movise of his and Van Damme's were popular among some. I did see a Van Damme movie and that was that godawful Street Fighter movie. Probably one of the worst film adaptations of a video game ever and that's saying something since that genre usually has a lot of fail.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:03:55am |
re: #283 sattv4u2
You could just change the channel, ya know!
That would be too fucking hard to do. Better to ruffle your feathers and talk big on a blog... always works to clear the head.
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Nevertires Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:04:30am |
re: #273 Walter L. Newton
Oh - and I forgot to say thanks.
After being on this site for almost 4 years (lurkin', readin' and learnin') it strikes me as a right-of-passage to get a reply from you. Almost like a stamp in a passport or an autograph.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:05:57am |
re: #288 Nevertires
Oh - and I forgot to say thanks.
After being on this site for almost 4 years (lurkin', readin' and learnin') it strikes me as a right-of-passage to get a reply from you. Almost like a stamp in a passport or an autograph.
Shit... if I had known that... I wouldn't have bothered.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:07:34am |
re: #287 Jadespring
Anyone have any experience fostering kids?
yup
((although Mrs Satty did most of the work both pre and post,,, I just signed the papers and paid the bills)))
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:09:10am |
re: #285 HappyWarrior
Heh, wouldn't know since I've never seen any of his movies. I remember back in the mid-late 90's when action movise of his and Van Damme's were popular among some. I did see a Van Damme movie and that was that godawful Street Fighter movie. Probably one of the worst film adaptations of a video game ever and that's saying something since that genre usually has a lot of fail.
Oh come on who doesn't love to see a body builder in his 30s have a climatic hand to hand battle with a cancer suffer in his 50's?
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:09:21am |
re: #290 sattv4u2
yup
((although Mrs Satty did most of the work both pre and post,,, I just signed the papers and paid the bills)))
Cool.
How in general did you find it?
I'm thinking about looking into doing it.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:12:01am |
re: #291 jamesfirecat
Oh come on who doesn't love to see a body builder in his 30s have a climatic hand to hand battle with a cancer suffer in his 50's?
Haha, I will say this, I enjoyed the Mortal Kombat movie. I preferred that series anyhow.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:13:06am |
re: #292 Jadespring
Cool.
How in general did you find it?
I'm thinking about looking into doing it.
Very rewarding
The child we took in, albeit very short term (for about 7 months over 5 years ago) was very appreciative even to this day.
Now,, word of caution, I know where the child was not as workable. Friends of ours took one in when the child was about 7 years old and had already had run-ins with the law. They even ended up adopting him when he was about 12 giving him every chance and a loving home
At 18 years old that child is now in a state facility having committed multiple felonies
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:13:37am |
re: #289 Walter L. Newton
Shit... if I had known that... I wouldn't have bothered.
Can I buy back my introduction to you??
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:14:00am |
re: #283 sattv4u2
You could just change the channel, ya know!
I love my tv too much to put that kind of signal through it. I just bought a new smart tv, I'd hate to see it go stupid.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:14:22am |
re: #268 HappyWarrior
Well it got his name in the papers, that's for sure. When's the last time he was in a movie that got much publicity?
Did you read that complaint? "unique physiological reaction when sexually aroused".
Maybe he has a movie future after all.
What could it be? His nose extends? His ass turns bright red?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:15:07am |
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allegro Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:16:04am |
re: #287 Jadespring
I fostered a baby monkey for two years to get her ready to be trained as a service monkey. She was part of the family. It tore my heart out to have to give her up - like handing over my own child - but the good she has done made it all worth it and more.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:16:06am |
re: #296 RogueOne
I love my tv too much to put that kind of signal through it. I just bought a new smart tv, I'd hate to see it go stupid.
TMI
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reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:20:03am |
re: #262 RogueOne
Not sure about the liberal part but he's certainly a flaming douche and a tool. I'm waiting for the episode where he gets his ass kicked before I tune in.
You talking about the show about his stint as a reserve deputy sheriff in Jefferson Parish?
I saw an episode or two. Dull. As. Dirt.
He pretty much stays in the background while the real deputies do the hard stuff, then he moves in when it's safe and talks to the cameras.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:21:20am |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
You talking about the show about his stint as a reserve deputy sheriff in Jefferson Parish?
I saw an episode or two. Dull. As. Dirt.
He pretty much stays in the background while the real deputies do the hard stuff, then he moves in when it's safe and talks to the cameras.
Sounds like typical reality tv- That is to say, it's crap I won't watch.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:23:17am |
re: #303 HappyWarrior
Sounds like typical reality tv- That is to say, it's crap I won't watch.
Reality shows suck.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:24:09am |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
You talking about the show about his stint as a reserve deputy sheriff in Jefferson Parish?
I saw an episode or two. Dull. As. Dirt.
He pretty much stays in the background while the real deputies do the hard stuff, then he moves in when it's safe and talks to the cameras.
Reminds me of Mutual Of Omahas "Wild Kingdom" where Marlin Perkins would say
"Jim Fowler is out in the jungle sticking his face in a pride of lions while I'm back in the studio having brunch"
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:24:12am |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:26:22am |
re: #304 Alouette
Reality shows suck.
Yep, probably my least favorite type of TV show and why it's been so maddening to see the history channel have more reality shows at prime times rather than specials about you know actual history. VH1 when I first started watching it used to be great, I learned a bit about music history by watching stuff like behind the music and otehrs but now all VH1 has is crappy celebrality shows.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:27:08am |
re: #285 HappyWarrior
Heh, wouldn't know since I've never seen any of his movies. I remember back in the mid-late 90's when action movise of his and Van Damme's were popular among some. I did see a Van Damme movie and that was that godawful Street Fighter movie. Probably one of the worst film adaptations of a video game ever and that's saying something since that genre usually has a lot of fail.
When my brother and I were in Florida last month we were watching Van Damme's _Sudden Death_ dubbed in Spanish. Somehow made it more amusing that way. (Not to mention seeing ice hockey announcers I'm familiar with dubbed like they were soccer announcers. Plus watching Iceberg, the annoying Penguins mascot, pound on Van Damme for a bit.)
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:27:10am |
re: #306 Walter L. Newton
Big time.
I like the shows like "NCIS" and "Bones" where they have a quirky girl computer nerd and a multicultural assortment of fit, toned people who solve the crime in less than an hour!
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:27:44am |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
Him, the totality of douchiness that's his life. I'm the president of his anti-fan club. I have over a decade of seagal hatred built up and sometimes it slips out, sort of like Darth and McCain.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:29:34am |
re: #308 oaktree
When my brother and I were in Florida last month we were watching Van Damme's _Sudden Death_ dubbed in Spanish. Somehow made it more amusing that way. (Not to mention seeing ice hockey announcers I'm familiar with dubbed like they were soccer announcers. Plus watching Iceberg, the annoying Penguins mascot, pound on Van Damme for a bit.)
Oh dubbing can always make a bad movie enjoyable. For a time, my brother was interested in Martial Arts movies so he would get these terribly dubbed mostly Chinese martial arts movies from the 70's up to hte early 90's and it was just hilarious since the voices were out of sync or totally not what the person should sound like. It made for some fun times.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:31:10am |
re: #309 Alouette
I like the shows like "NCIS" and "Bones" where they have a quirky girl computer nerd and a multicultural assortment of fit, toned people who solve the crime in less than an hour!
I don't watch much TV at all, but I agree with you. If I do want to watch something, it's for the escape... I find nothing entertaining watching people work out their obsessive personality quirks on reality shows... that never happens on blogs.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:31:46am |
On another note, my other brother and I were bored one night this past Spring Break so we were reading movie descriptions off of IMDB's bottom 100 movies of all time and we vowed that we needed to see Manos The HAnds of Fate and Babygenuisues 2. There's just something fun about watching bad movies. I enjoy great films like any good film snob but I enjoy trainwrecks too.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:32:18am |
re: #311 HappyWarrior
Oh dubbing can always make a bad movie enjoyable. For a time, my brother was interested in Martial Arts movies so he would get these terribly dubbed mostly Chinese martial arts movies from the 70's up to hte early 90's and it was just hilarious since the voices were out of sync or totally not what the person should sound like. It made for some fun times.
And a standard satire bit. Michael Winslow (Police Academy), Kentucky Fried Movie, etc.
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laZardo Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:32:28am |
re: #311 HappyWarrior
Oh dubbing can always make a bad movie enjoyable. For a time, my brother was interested in Martial Arts movies so he would get these terribly dubbed mostly Chinese martial arts movies from the 70's up to hte early 90's and it was just hilarious since the voices were out of sync or totally not what the person should sound like. It made for some fun times.
Did he like Kung Pow?
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:33:00am |
re: #294 sattv4u2
Very rewarding
The child we took in, albeit very short term (for about 7 months over 5 years ago) was very appreciative even to this day.Now,, word of caution, I know where the child was not as workable. Friends of ours took one in when the child was about 7 years old and had already had run-ins with the law. They even ended up adopting him when he was about 12 giving him every chance and a loving home
At 18 years old that child is now in a state facility having committed multiple felonies
Thanks.
I do have a older second cousin who has did fostering for years. I've heard some stories, a lot of good ones, some bad ones and a few terrible. She did a lot of temporary high risk fostering though and ended up taking in a lot of kids that others couldn't handle.
I think both my husband and I would have a lot to offer. He was a foster kid himself so has a unique perspective I think. He knows what a sucky placement is. He went through a number of awful ones himself.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:34:22am |
re: #309 Alouette
Ah, but nothing beats hearing Shakespeare in the original Klingon. /
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:35:31am |
re: #309 Alouette
I like the shows like "NCIS" and "Bones" where they have a quirky girl computer nerd and a multicultural assortment of fit, toned people who solve the crime in less than an hour!
NCIS, Si
I'm also hooked on House (although the past season or so hasn't been as good as prior ones) as well as Burn Notice, The Middle and Modern Family
Beyond that, if I AM watching TV for pleasure (as opposed to at work) it's mostly sports or History Channel of nature type shows
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:36:11am |
re: #314 oaktree
And a standard satire bit. Michael Winslow (Police Academy), Kentucky Fried Movie, etc.
I love kentucky fried movie and....
Amazon Women On The Moon:
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:36:44am |
re: #316 Jadespring
Thanks.
I do have a older second cousin who has did fostering for years. I've heard some stories, a lot of good ones, some bad ones and a few terrible. She did a lot of temporary high risk fostering though and ended up taking in a lot of kids that others couldn't handle.I think both my husband and I would have a lot to offer. He was a foster kid himself so has a unique perspective I think. He knows what a sucky placement is. He went through a number of awful ones himself.
You sound prepared
A little research on the prospective child and I would encourage you to go for it
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:36:50am |
re: #315 laZardo
Did he like Kung Pow?
Heh I remember seeing the trailer for that, I doubt he ever saw it since it came out when I was 12 and he was 15. WE only did this in 2008-09ish once we were both out of high school and had a little bit more free time on our hands plus the netflix investment was a nice one.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:38:39am |
re: #311 HappyWarrior
Oh dubbing can always make a bad movie enjoyable. For a time, my brother was interested in Martial Arts movies so he would get these terribly dubbed mostly Chinese martial arts movies from the 70's up to hte early 90's and it was just hilarious since the voices were out of sync or totally not what the person should sound like. It made for some fun times.
Shameless self promotion time. I have a speaking role in a martial arts movie titled "Tiger Street." It stars Julian Jung Lee and was film here in the Denver area around 1998. ( [Link: www.julianjunglee.com...] ).
The movie was so bad, that it sat in the can for a number of years and then suddenly appeared on channels like Spike TV and those other male oriented cable channels.
For what ever reasons, they haven't even released the movie on DVD or Netflix or any source that I can find.
I'm dying to get a copy of the movie, just to add to my collection of other flicks that I have been in, but I can't even find a "torrent" copy of it.
The only time I saw it was on Spike one night, about 2 in the morning, I wasn't expecting to see it there, so I wasn't ready to record it or something like that.
[Link: www.tigerstreet.com...]
I've been involved in a number of projects that went straight to DVD or cable, or a soft-porn store in the Philippines, but I've rarely seen a feature movie that ONLY played occasionally on a few cable channels.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:39:00am |
Show I'm enjoying most right now is Boardwalk Empire. I mentioned last night but I've really become interested in the interwar period. Plus I can't help but to think of my great grandmother when I see Kelly MacDonald's Margaret Schroder, hard working Irish girl with a young family.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:39:33am |
I like some reality shows. I use the hoarding ones as motivation to clean up. They terrify me because of my families pack ratting tendencies and I've found them actually useful with dealing with my own stuff and particularly my Dad. I could totally see my Dad going that route. :D
I also like the auction type ones like storage wars or auction finders. I don't specifically make time to watch them but if there's nothing else on I'll watch.
I like some of the food type ones too, especially competition ones.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:40:55am |
re: #322 Walter L. Newton
Shameless self promotion time. I have a speaking role in a martial arts movie titled "Tiger Street." It stars Julian Jung Lee and was film here in the Denver area around 1998. ( [Link: www.julianjunglee.com...] ).
The movie was so bad, that it sat in the can for a number of years and then suddenly appeared on channels like Spike TV and those other male oriented cable channels.
For what ever reasons, they haven't even released the movie on DVD or Netflix or any source that I can find.
I'm dying to get a copy of the movie, just to add to my collection of other flicks that I have been in, but I can't even find a "torrent" copy of it.
The only time I saw it was on Spike one night, about 2 in the morning, I wasn't expecting to see it there, so I wasn't ready to record it or something like that.
[Link: www.tigerstreet.com...]
I've been involved in a number of projects that went straight to DVD or cable, or a soft-porn store in the Philippines, but I've rarely seen a feature movie that ONLY played occasionally on a few cable channels.
That's really cool, Walter. Can't imagine being in a film myself. Would be so weird to see or in your case hear myself on TV.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:41:00am |
re: #323 HappyWarrior
Show I'm enjoying most right now is Boardwalk Empire. I mentioned last night but I've really become interested in the interwar period. Plus I can't help but to think of my great grandmother when I see Kelly MacDonald's Margaret Schroder, hard working Irish girl with a young family.
TCM was running movies based on Damon Runyon stories last night. So I ended up watching a good chunk of _Guys and Dolls_.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:41:07am |
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:42:27am |
re: #320 sattv4u2
You sound prepared
A little research on the prospective child and I would encourage you to go for it
I think I will. The earliest it could happen would be next year though. I don't have the space for it yet. The 2nd and 3rd bedroom should be reno'd by next spring. I figured it can't hurt to at least talk to child services about qualifications and such now though.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:42:35am |
re: #327 oaktree
TCM was running movies based on Damon Runyon stories last night. So I ended up watching a good chunk of _Guys and Dolls_.
I really enjoy TCM and AMC's movie choices. Find some good ones that I missed due to being born in the late 80's. It's how I found the original Day of hte Jackal with Edward Fox. I love that movie. Always find myself rooting for him to succeed in his attempt to kill DeGaulle.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:42:42am |
re: #325 Jadespring
reality shows,,,,I use the hoarding ones as motivation to clean up
The few that I've seen seem to have more to do with being slovenly than "hoarding'
Wifey has lots of 'stuff", can't dream about throwing things away, but everything is packed neatly and labeled in either the garage, that attic, or under the house in the crawl space
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:42:46am |
re: #325 Jadespring
I like some reality shows. I use the hoarding ones as motivation to clean up. They terrify me because of my families pack ratting tendencies and I've found them actually useful with dealing with my own stuff and particularly my Dad. I could totally see my Dad going that route. :D
I also like the auction type ones like storage wars or auction finders. I don't specifically make time to watch them but if there's nothing else on I'll watch.
I like some of the food type ones too, especially competition ones.
I have a weakness for watching stuff like Iron Chef America and Chopped.
Given how brutal the judges on Chopped get I look forward to the episode where a group of them are the competitors so that they can receive some of their own medicine.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:43:09am |
re: #329 Jadespring
I think I will. The earliest it could happen would be next year though. I don't have the space for it yet. The 2nd and 3rd bedroom should be reno'd by next spring. I figured it can't hurt to at least talk to child services about qualifications and such now though.
:)
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:43:40am |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:44:27am |
I had a weakness for the beginning of American Idol when Cowell was there. I really got a kick out of the people who thought they were awesome singers but Cowell had to bring them back to reality and remind them often in blunt and mean terms that they shouldn't be singing. I always wondered what he'd say to me since I am a terrible singer as evident by the few times I've done karaoke.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:44:53am |
re: #326 HappyWarrior
That's really cool, Walter. Can't imagine being in a film myself. Would be so weird to see or in your case hear myself on TV.
Ok... I've told this story before, but it's not always so cool to see yourself on the "big screen" I did a featured extra role in "Three Ninjas - High Noon at Mega Mountain." back in the late 90's.
The movie opened on a Easter Sunday. So, I decide I want to see the movie, and I go to the theatre, pay for a ticket, and I enter the theatre... I'm the only one in there... a few minutes later, 3 little girls come in, they sit down.
So here we are, three little ten year olds and this old man, in a empty dark movie theatre, watching a juvenile martial arts film (groan... Hulk Hogan and Jim Varney was in it too). Really, it felt weird, I decided it probably looked weird... I left right after the scene I was in... too creepy.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:45:25am |
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:45:50am |
re: #326 HappyWarrior
That's really cool, Walter. Can't imagine being in a film myself. Would be so weird to see or in your case hear myself on TV.
I was in a documentary that was shown in a movie theatre. It was totally freaky and surreal to see myself on a big screen like that. Even more freaky though when I would go to an event and people you don't know recognize you from it.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:47:46am |
re: #332 oaktree
I have a weakness for watching stuff like Iron Chef America and Chopped.
Given how brutal the judges on Chopped get I look forward to the episode where a group of them are the competitors so that they can receive some of their own medicine.
Is there going to be an episode like that? That would be fun.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:47:50am |
re: #338 Jadespring
I was in a documentary that was shown in a movie theatre. It was totally freaky and surreal to see myself on a big screen like that. Even more freaky though when I would go to an event and people you don't know recognize you from it.
That happens a lot to me at post offices.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:48:58am |
re: #338 Jadespring
I was in a documentary that was shown in a movie theatre. It was totally freaky and surreal to see myself on a big screen like that. Even more freaky though when I would go to an event and people you don't know recognize you from it.
I can't imagine. When I was a kid, I took speech therapy sessions and the therapist would record my voice so we could see where I was struggling with my sounds and I hated hearing myself talk. Hell, I still do. And yeah I bet it's weird having people you don't even know come up to you. That would weird me out big time. I guess that's why the appeal of money in acting may be good but if I ever worked in the entertaiment indstury, I'd want something either behind the scenes or low profile. My DAd's always said he'd want to be a character actor rather than a leading man if he acted.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:51:00am |
re: #340 Walter L. Newton
That happens a lot to me at post offices.
:D
My crowning glory though was when I was on a national youth news tv show talking about how I would 'do' Matthew McConaughey.
LOL. That still cracks me up.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:54:15am |
My only "acting" has come in movie projects we did for school. In psychology, we did a special on hypochondria but to make it more entertaining for our classmates, we had fake commercials and I did one spoofing a dating agency. My line was "Are you lonely ladies, if so call Johnny Blaze or something at so and so." It was a funny line since I think Johnny Blaze or whatever name I had was a name used by a rapper and I was this shy as hell white kid haha. And then there was the horror film I did for film class where my character was stabbed with a crayon.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:55:35am |
re: #341 HappyWarrior
I can't imagine. When I was a kid, I took speech therapy sessions and the therapist would record my voice so we could see where I was struggling with my sounds and I hated hearing myself talk. Hell, I still do. And yeah I bet it's weird having people you don't even know come up to you. That would weird me out big time. I guess that's why the appeal of money in acting may be good but if I ever worked in the entertaiment indstury, I'd want something either behind the scenes or low profile. My DAd's always said he'd want to be a character actor rather than a leading man if he acted.
It did have it's cool factor but in the end I didn't like it. I felt like I had to be on show. It was only within a certain segment of people, in a specific localethough so it wasn't being 'famous' or anything. Now I live in a place where no one knows anything about that 'life' and it's perfectly fine with me. I like not having to think about my hair or clothes when I pop out to get some milk.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:57:26am |
re: #341 HappyWarrior
I can't imagine. When I was a kid, I took speech therapy sessions and the therapist would record my voice so we could see where I was struggling with my sounds and I hated hearing myself talk. Hell, I still do. And yeah I bet it's weird having people you don't even know come up to you. That would weird me out big time. I guess that's why the appeal of money in acting may be good but if I ever worked in the entertaiment indstury, I'd want something either behind the scenes or low profile. My DAd's always said he'd want to be a character actor rather than a leading man if he acted.
Well... don't come to Colorado if you want to make any money in movies or TV production... this state has ruined it's film industry. Oh, we still get a lot of commercials and industrial film work, but features and made for TV projects have dried up since 2000.
This state has been unfriendly to movie production. While every other state around us tax exempts production companies, and give breaks when it comes to other fees and tariffs, Colorado won't do that.
Even recently, we've had TWO bills designed to help promote production in Colorado. One was to add a 10 cent seat tax on every movie ticket. That failed. So, they revised the bill, and they wanted to have a suggested DONATION of 10 cents on a ticket, totally voluntary... that failed too.
One of the other problems is we have had LA. "agitators" working in state, trying to squelch these sorts of efforts to attract productions.
We have about 5000 people in this state who would benefit job wise from having productions work here. And it doesn't cost the state anything NOT to tax productions, since if you do, they won't come anyway. It's a win-win if you give them a break.
Go figure?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:57:55am |
re: #342 Jadespring
:D
My crowning glory though was when I was on a national youth news tv show talking about how I would 'do' Matthew McConaughey.
LOL. That still cracks me up.
TMI :)
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researchok Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:59:06am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
Well... don't come to Colorado if you want to make any money in movies or TV production... this state has ruined it's film industry. Oh, we still get a lot of commercials and industrial film work, but features and made for TV projects have dried up since 2000.
This state has been unfriendly to movie production. While every other state around us tax exempts production companies, and give breaks when it comes to other fees and tariffs, Colorado won't do that.
Even recently, we've had TWO bills designed to help promote production in Colorado. One was to add a 10 cent seat tax on every movie ticket. That failed. So, they revised the bill, and they wanted to have a suggested DONATION of 10 cents on a ticket, totally voluntary... that failed too.
One of the other problems is we have had LA. "agitators" working in state, trying to squelch these sorts of efforts to attract productions.
We have about 5000 people in this state who would benefit job wise from having productions work here. And it doesn't cost the state anything NOT to tax productions, since if you do, they won't come anyway. It's a win-win if you give them a break.
Go figure?
You would think Colorado would be more welcoming than Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:01:16am |
re: #341 HappyWarrior
I can't imagine. When I was a kid, I took speech therapy sessions and the therapist would record my voice so we could see where I was struggling with my sounds and I hated hearing myself talk. Hell, I still do. And yeah I bet it's weird having people you don't even know come up to you. That would weird me out big time. I guess that's why the appeal of money in acting may be good but if I ever worked in the entertaiment indstury, I'd want something either behind the scenes or low profile. My DAd's always said he'd want to be a character actor rather than a leading man if he acted.
The boy who plays the love-interest vampire in the Twilight movies said he first really realized what he'd gotten himself into when two girls came up to him at a publicity event, with their necks scratched and bleeding, and told him, "We did this for YOU!"
Panic time.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:02:44am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
Every analysis of tax breaks for business startups (or moves to an area) that I have read, going back decades, end up a net cost to the region by the time the politicians have left their posts. The costs per job created are usually several times the new salaries.
Movie business could perhaps be different in some way, but probably somebody in Colorado doesn't think so.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:02:55am |
re: #347 researchok
You would think Colorado would be more welcoming than Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg...
Yeah, it's got a lot of beautiful spots, would be great for filming scenes set in snowy mountains. Virginia really doesn't seem to have much films here. When former DNC Chair Terry McAulliffe ran for governor here in the Democratic primaries, he tried to make one of his big points that he'd bring the film industry to Virginia if elected governor. Sounded exciting and all but I was and am not too high on McAullife. Guy just seemed like his whole schting was "I'm Bill Clinton's buddy, vote for me." The other two candidates, Creigh Deeds (the eventual nominee) and Brian Moran (now chair of hte state party and Jim's brother) actually had experience in Virginia politics so I liked them more.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:04:00am |
re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist
The boy who plays the love-interest vampire in the Twilight movies said he first really realized what he'd gotten himself into when two girls came up to him at a publicity event, with their necks scratched and bleeding, and told him, "We did this for YOU!"
Panic time.
Yikes, that's plain creepy. Did they get the meme he's not really a vampire?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:09:54am |
re: #349 Naso Tang
Every analysis of tax breaks for business startups (or moves to an area) that I have read, going back decades, end up a net cost to the region by the time the politicians have left their posts. The costs per job created are usually several times the new salaries.
Movie business could perhaps be different in some way, but probably somebody in Colorado doesn't think so.
We're not talking "start ups." We're talking about established movie and TV production companies, who come to the state and spends millions of dollars. Many states offer these companies tax breaks on the sales and service taxes for renting equipment, lodging and other large business expenses.
I'll give you an example. Back in the 90's, when NBC was in town filming the 4 hour made for TV movie "Asteroid," they were in the Denver area for 4 months. Employed over 2000 people total, that included on screen local talent, crew, catering and so on.
They spend about 5 million dollars in state on services. That's all a win-win, because that money gets spread around, taxes get paid on that money in state income tax, sales tax and so on.
We were giving production companies breaks on taxes and fees in the 90's. We had an average of 3-4 major productions in state every year.
Now.. nothing... that's can only be a loss to the state.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:10:18am |
re: #351 HappyWarrior
Yikes, that's plain creepy. Did they get the meme he's not really a vampire?
Apparently not. We're talking about teenage girls in the throes of sexual obsession. Reality is not high on the list.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:13:29am |
re: #353 SanFranciscoZionist
Apparently not. We're talking about teenage girls in the throes of sexual obsession. Reality is not high on the list.
Heh this is true. I feel bad for him though because that would totally weird me out. Not to mention it's really gross.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:13:58am |
re: #352 Walter L. Newton
We were giving production companies breaks on taxes and fees in the 90's. We had an average of 3-4 major productions in state every year.
Now.. nothing... that's can only be a loss to the state.
CHANGE !!!
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Slap Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:13:58am |
re: #351 HappyWarrior
Yikes, that's plain creepy. Did they get the meme he's not really a vampire?
Wait, wha-a-at?
Now you're going to tell me that Val Kilmer isn't really Batman, I suppose....
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:14:52am |
re: #353 SanFranciscoZionist
Apparently not. We're talking about teenage girls in the throes of sexual obsession. Reality is not high on the list.
Must have skipped the generation when I was a teenager !!
{sigh}
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:17:13am |
re: #357 sattv4u2
Must have skipped the generation when I was a teenager !!
{sigh}
Not really but don't feel bad. The AV club members still aren't getting any....
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:18:12am |
re: #357 sattv4u2
Must have skipped the generation when I was a teenager !!
{sigh}
Oh it didn't. It just wasn't directed at you.
/
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:22:29am |
Chris Matthews asked almost the exact same questions:
' why doesn’t the President just say ’send me a copy right now.’
Both Matthews and Hannity (and I guess trump) seem to be unaware that the birth certificate has been shown. That the President HAS ordered a copy, and shown it.
I am at a loss to understand how they could not know.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:24:43am |
re: #360 Buck
Chris Matthews asked almost the exact same questions:
' why doesn’t the President just say ’send me a copy right now.’
Both Matthews and Hannity (and I guess trump) seem to be unaware that the birth certificate has been shown. That the President HAS ordered a copy, and shown it.
I am at a loss to understand how they could not know.
ratings dictate that they don't!
"Dog Bites Man" YAWN
"Man Bites Dog" Front page, Above the fold!
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:25:45am |
re: #347 researchok
You would think Colorado would be more welcoming than Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg...
Why did you em Winnipeg? Just curious.... Winnipeg has an amazing movie making history... and is VERY welcoming.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:29:55am |
Yesterday's outrageous outrage was bogus....
Teacher letter to Ariz. lawmaker leads to inquiry
A metropolitan Phoenix school district has launched an inquiry into a substitute teacher who wrote a letter that portrayed Hispanic students in a harsh light and was read aloud last week at the Arizona Legislature during a debate on an immigration bill.
The Glendale Elementary School District said it has determined that some statements by teacher Tony Hill in his letter to Senate President Russell Pearce were inaccurate.
In the letter, Hill said a majority of the eighth-graders he had recently taught at a Glendale school had refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance and declared that Americans had stolen their land. Hill also wrote that while substitute teaching in the area, he came to believe that "most of the Hispanic students do not want to be educated but rather (want to) be gang members and gangsters."
...
District spokesman Jim Cummings said all students questioned in the inquiry have said everyone stood for the pledge and that none said their land had been stolen. "What we are finding here — and what we believe — is that the statements that he made weren't accurate," Cummings said.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:30:20am |
re: #362 Buck
Why did you em Winnipeg? Just curious... Winnipeg has an amazing movie making history... and is VERY welcoming.
Why are you so fucking worried about it?
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:31:08am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
Colorado established a film incentive in 2010 administered by the Colorado Office of Film, Television, and Media.
A question would be whether that incentive matches up well against neighboring states or is sufficient to get film and tv productions to consider CO over other states.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:32:15am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
...and the fuckwad Republicans are sticking to it...
The letter was distributed to other Republican senators by Pearce and was read last Thursday by another senator as lawmakers debated one of five bills on illegal immigration
...
Pearce said no one from the Senate owes an apology for reading the letter. "It was all verified," Pearce said. "I'm disappointed that we assault and attack a teacher for speaking out."
...
In an interview after the debate, Republican Sen. Lori Klein, who read the letter aloud on the Senate floor last week, said she didn't regret bringing to light a teacher's experience, but that she doesn't believe all Hispanic students want to be gang members.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:34:01am |
re: #366 Killgore Trout
...and the fuckwad Republicans are sticking to it...
Facts, they don't need no stinking facts. I am not shocked though. This is Russell Pearce of I didn't know Stormfront was a white supremacist bigot bastion notoriety.
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:34:22am |
re: #364 Walter L. Newton
Why are you so fucking worried about it?
I am not so fucking worried at all. I am not sure why you feel you have to fucking answer for fucking someone else. Why the fuck do you think I am fucking worried? I was just fucking curious, just like I fucking said.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:34:40am |
This is just soo... not right. I tried multiple times over the last few years to get mom and/or dad to talk to a lawyer about estate planning and was always told "why spend $2000.00 on something that is so easy, it isn't like we are rich."
So, no beneficiaries named on any of their checking accounts, CD's, or IRA's, and we still have not found the original stamped versions of their wills, only copies that are marked as copies.
So now everything has to go through probate court before we can touch any of their accounts and any creditors get first dibs on the money. So much for trying to negotiate some of these outstanding medical bills down. What incentive do they have to negotiate when they know they can present the Judge with any number they want to and get paid out of the estate before the heirs?
I don't actually need the money but my brother and sister and their families sure could use it, besides it just seems wrong not to fight for what should be my fair share of what they left us.
So now I am paying a lawyer $4500.00 to settle Mom's estate (all the property is in her name) and another $2000.00 to settle Dad's estate and both my brother and sister are too broke to help pay for any of it! Gee, thank you mom and dad for refusing to do any planning ahead because that would be an acknowledgment that someday you were going to die (as if we all don't). Blarrgh!!!
Sigh...I guess it is all water under the bridge now, whats done is done, I should blame myself too for not doing more research and explaining exactly why the estate planning was needed. But please if you are reading this, please for the love of God, at least name beneficiaries on your accounts so that your survivors will be able to use your money for this kind of thing instead of their own!
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Henchman Ghazi-808 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:36:09am |
re: #360 Buck
I am at a loss to understand how they could not know.
They do know but don't want to accept it. The 'why doesn't he just show it' meme is a farce, a lie. They don't want Obama to end the non-troversy.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:36:33am |
re: #367 HappyWarrior
Facts, they don't need no stinking facts. I am not shocked though. This is Russell Pearce of I didn't know Stormfront was a white supremacist bigot bastion notoriety.
I still find it astounding that Republicans continue to set legislative agendas on outright easily debunked lies. For all the bitching about liberal media bias I think the MSM goes pretty easy on them.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:36:48am |
re: #365 lawhawk
Colorado established a film incentive in 2010 administered by the Colorado Office of Film, Television, and Media.
A question would be whether that incentive matches up well against neighboring states or is sufficient to get film and tv productions to consider CO over other states.
First off... this "incentive" is only 10 percent, and it's not unlimited, and the "refund" is from the film commission. And this was dependent on the film commission being able to raise money (see that 10 cent seat tax/donation I mentioned above) and getting merchants and service providers to discount services.
This is not the same as the state itself foregoing taxes, tariffs and fees, as Utah, New Mexico, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kanas and Utah does. Production companies will seek out those states first for locations before coming to Colorado.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:38:13am |
re: #369 ausador
What incentive do they have to negotiate when they know they can present the Judge with any number they want to and get paid out of the estate before the heirs?
I don't actually need the money but my brother and sister and their families sure could use it, besides it just seems wrong not to fight for what should be my fair share of what they left us.
Wait till Uncle Sam comes for THEIR share of what they left you
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:39:41am |
re: #373 sattv4u2
What incentive do they have to negotiate when they know they can present the Judge with any number they want to and get paid out of the estate before the heirs?
I don't actually need the money but my brother and sister and their families sure could use it, besides it just seems wrong not to fight for what should be my fair share of what they left us.
Wait till Uncle Sam comes for THEIR share of what they left you
But death taxes are good. Stop trying to stir the pot.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:40:06am |
re: #360 Buck
Chris Matthews asked almost the exact same questions:
' why doesn’t the President just say ’send me a copy right now.’
Both Matthews and Hannity (and I guess trump) seem to be unaware that the birth certificate has been shown. That the President HAS ordered a copy, and shown it.
I am at a loss to understand how they could not know.
I think they are determined not to know. Not knowing seems to get better ratings.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:41:09am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
Yesterday's outrageous outrage was bogus...
Teacher letter to Ariz. lawmaker leads to inquiry
Too late. It's joined the pile of bias confirmation evidence in minds across the nation.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:42:01am |
re: #371 Killgore Trout
I still find it astounding that Republicans continue to set legislative agendas on outright easily debunked lies. For all the bitching about liberal media bias I think the MSM goes pretty easy on them.
It's madness is what it is. I tell you what angered me most about the story was the fact that these are kids that were slandered.
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:42:17am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
Yesterday's outrageous outrage was bogus...
Teacher letter to Ariz. lawmaker leads to inquiry
Ooh, I've been following the news about that, but missed the outrageous outrage. Thanks for the update. And no, Pearce will not back down, even in the face of reality. His immigration measures were all defeated, but he's still talking about bringing them back.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:42:27am |
re: #373 sattv4u2
What incentive do they have to negotiate when they know they can present the Judge with any number they want to and get paid out of the estate before the heirs?
I don't actually need the money but my brother and sister and their families sure could use it, besides it just seems wrong not to fight for what should be my fair share of what they left us.
Wait till Uncle Sam comes for THEIR share of what they left you
The estate tax in Florida is 0% and the Feds extended the estate tax 0% rate for two years since they could not reach any other agreement. Yes I will have to pay tax on anything I eventually receive, but at least we don't have to give anyone any percentage of it before disbursement.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:44:02am |
re: #374 Walter L. Newton
But death taxes are good. Stop trying to stir the pot.
yup
Nothing better than paying taxes on monies that have already been taxed, re-taxed and taxed again while the person(s) were living
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:44:47am |
re: #369 ausador
Very good reminder, I am going through something similar.
I would like to add something I recently learned. Sometimes a two car couple will have both cars in one name. If that person passes, the insurance is voided, and no one can drive both cars until the estate is cleared up and the ownership is transferred. Even if that person is the executor.
The second thing that I would add (that also does not seem to be covered by most estate planners) is that you need to plan for if YOU DON'T die. A will names an executor, but if you are only incapacitated, not enough for a DNR to come into effect, but only enough that you cannot handle your own affairs then you need to have someone with power of attorney.
My father did have lots of professional estate planning advice. In fact one of his sons is a lawyer.
Lessons learned and passed on.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:45:00am |
re: #377 HappyWarrior
It's madness is what it is. I tell you what angered me most about the story was the fact that these are kids that were slandered.
You know, I'd get a whole bunch of Latino middle- and high-school kids to testify on the floor about their patriotism and academic aspirations. Hours of them. Keep them coming.
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calochortus Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:46:00am |
re: #369 ausador
I'm really sorry you have to go through this. Thank heavens my folks were more practical. All neat and tidy and ready to go. Cost after Mom passed away-something like $350 to the lawyer.
So, please, everyone, take ausador's advice and get it taken care of now-and if a trust is set up-be sure that trust is funded. Apparently a lot of people get one set up and the lawyer doesn't take them all the way through the funding process, so it doesn't happen...
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:47:13am |
re: #382 SanFranciscoZionist
You know, I'd get a whole bunch of Latino middle- and high-school kids to testify on the floor about their patriotism and academic aspirations. Hours of them. Keep them coming.
Yep, sounds like a great use of the state leg's time :). THe whole letter to me reeked of the worst stereotypes I've heard uttered about Latinos- that they feel that they are taking the US back, that they think all whites are racist, etc. I think that along with the lack of background on "Tony Hill" is why I was suspicious from the start and frankly I don't trust Russell Pearce since as I pointed out, the man had no problem using a Stormfront letter to put down immigrants.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:47:27am |
re: #379 ausador
The estate tax in Florida is 0% and the Feds extended the estate tax 0% rate for two years since they could not reach any other agreement. Yes I will have to pay tax on anything I eventually receive, but at least we don't have to give anyone any percentage of it before disbursement.
A few weeks after my dad passed away, I received a letter from his IRA fund informing me that my 501(c)(3) foundation had been named as beneficiary.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:49:29am |
re: #384 calochortus
I'm really sorry you have to go through this. Thank heavens my folks were more practical. All neat and tidy and ready to go. Cost after Mom passed away-something like $350 to the lawyer.
So, please, everyone, take ausador's advice and get it taken care of now-and if a trust is set up-be sure that trust is funded. Apparently a lot of people get one set up and the lawyer doesn't take them all the way through the funding process, so it doesn't happen...
My father's biggest preoccupation since his illness a couple years ago is that if he dies without publishing his novel, I'm in charge of that.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:50:10am |
re: #380 sattv4u2
yup
Nothing better than paying taxes on monies that have already been taxed, re-taxed and taxed again while the person(s) were living
You mean like every financial transaction ever? Like when I pay taxes on wages that my employer (who happens to be myself) paid taxes on, coming from money made my a client corporation who already paid taxes on that money, coming from profits from sales to retailers who already paid taxes on that money, which comes from customers who already paid taxes on that money when they got it from their employers.
Weird, it's almost like we tax money when it transitions from one entity to another!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:50:38am |
re: #339 Jadespring
Is there going to be an episode like that? That would be fun.
From my understanding there will be. I saw a "Celebrity Chopped" recently using fairly high profile chefs (including an Iron Chef America winner) with the winner getting a spot in the special final round. Apparently one of the other elimination rounds is all cooks that are also judges for Chopped.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:52:09am |
re: #388 Obdicut
You mean like every financial transaction ever? Like when I pay taxes on wages that my employer (who happens to be myself) paid taxes on, coming from money made my a client corporation who already paid taxes on that money, coming from profits from sales to retailers who already paid taxes on that money, which comes from customers who already paid taxes on that money when they got it from their employers.
Weird, it's almost like we tax money when it transitions from one entity to another!
But an INHERITANCE should be different, even though it traditionally isn't in Anglo-American law.
//
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:52:18am |
re: #369 ausador
Once again, my condolences on your loss and am sorry to hear about all the troubles that followed with settling their estates. A little bit of planning can save a whole bunch of trouble down the line. Small estates don't necessarily require a lawyer to draft a will, but even someone with only a few bank accounts/iras/401k/pensions, or insurance proceeds should update their beneficiary lists periodically to make it easy to avoid probate.
It's always a good idea to periodically review your financials.
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:54:45am |
re: #375 SanFranciscoZionist
I think they are determined not to know. Not knowing seems to get better ratings.
And yet both O'Reilly and Beck have passed on this story. Both have in fact said that they have no doubt about the Presidents birth certificate. O'Reilly went after the CNN guy (Lou Dobbs) when he questioned it.
If you saw the Hannity piece you would have seen that Obama supporter Jerry Springer didn't seem to know. And on the View, no one seemed to say the words... He has shown it... Instead of saying "why?"... How come Whoppie doesn't just say... "He has shown it.... Catch up!"
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BishopX Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:55:00am |
re: #391 lawhawk
It's also a good idea to periodically review them with someone else. So when you're not around people know where your records are.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:55:49am |
re: #392 Buck
And yet both O'Reilly and Beck have passed on this story. Both have in fact said that they have no doubt about the Presidents birth certificate. O'Reilly went after the CNN guy (Lou Dobbs) when he questioned it.
If you saw the Hannity piece you would have seen that Obama supporter Jerry Springer didn't seem to know. And on the View, no one seemed to say the words... He has shown it... Instead of saying "why?"... How come Whoppie doesn't just say... "He has shown it... Catch up!"
Because Whoopie is a moron... Catch up!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:57:08am |
re: #385 HappyWarrior
Yep, sounds like a great use of the state leg's time :). THe whole letter to me reeked of the worst stereotypes I've heard uttered about Latinos- that they feel that they are taking the US back, that they think all whites are racist, etc. I think that along with the lack of background on "Tony Hill" is why I was suspicious from the start and frankly I don't trust Russell Pearce since as I pointed out, the man had no problem using a Stormfront letter to put down immigrants.
And I saw a blurb today that 1 in 6 Americans are Hispanic. A growing demographic that the GOP seems currently to be thoroughly convinced can be ignored and/or slandered as necessary to keep their current base happy.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:59:22am |
re: #395 oaktree
And I saw a blurb today that 1 in 6 Americans are Hispanic. A growing demographic that the GOP seems currently to be thoroughly convinced can be ignored and/or slandered as necessary to keep their current base happy.
their current base is only happy when they're unhappy about something.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:59:41am |
Viva la France...
French fighter jets shot down a Libyan warplane, amid allegations that forces loyal to leader Col. Muammar Qaddafi violated the country's UN-sanctioned no-fly zone.
Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:59:51am |
Breaking news, Fox style....
Fox Reporter's Racist Tweet: "Blacks Riot At Burger King"
Lovely comments from Fox readers...
I'm an Ape Man, I'm AN APE, APE MAN.......................
....
Travel in packs just like wild animals. When stupid white trash do stupid things, most people will not take up for them. I'll call them stupid white trash. when these animals do these things, everyone place the race card. Call it like you see it. Animal instincts take over for them, riot, loot, band together. Yet check out the murder stats in New Orleans. Ghetto animals killing ghetto animals every night and day. KUMBA YA THIS you dingbat!!!!!!!
....
Burger king will now be required to post menus in ebonics..
....
sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:01:07am |
re: #398 Killgore Trout
Breaking news, Fox style...
Fox Reporter's Racist Tweet: "Blacks Riot At Burger King"Lovely comments from Fox readers...
I'm an Ape Man, I'm AN APE, APE MAN...
...
Travel in packs just like wild animals. When stupid white trash do stupid things, most people will not take up for them. I'll call them stupid white trash. when these animals do these things, everyone place the race card. Call it like you see it. Animal instincts take over for them, riot, loot, band together. Yet check out the murder stats in New Orleans. Ghetto animals killing ghetto animals every night and day. KUMBA YA THIS you dingbat!!!
...
Burger king will now be required to post menus in ebonics..
...
sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.
Is there no one there willing to say to these people "What the hell is wrong with you?!"
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:01:43am |
re: #395 oaktree
And I saw a blurb today that 1 in 6 Americans are Hispanic. A growing demographic that the GOP seems currently to be thoroughly convinced can be ignored and/or slandered as necessary to keep their current base happy.
Even in states where it's closer to one in three (I'm lookin' at YOU, Arizona...)
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:01:46am |
re: #391 lawhawk
Once again, my condolences on your loss and am sorry to hear about all the troubles that followed with settling their estates. A little bit of planning can save a whole bunch of trouble down the line. Small estates don't necessarily require a lawyer to draft a will, but even someone with only a few bank accounts/iras/401k/pensions, or insurance proceeds should update their beneficiary lists periodically to make it easy to avoid probate.
It's always a good idea to periodically review your financials.
My parents went the irrevocable joint trust route and a lot of the details went very smoothly when nature took its course. Most of the issues and pain came from the final settling of my mother's estate where two major things went wrong:
1. The lawyer my brother hired to do probate work essentially did nothing for two years.
2. We found some accounts, including an IRA, that had to be split up (and taxed) at a later time. They were not included in the documentation my mother left and were discovered after my brother took over and handled things using power of attorney.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:02:08am |
re: #398 Killgore Trout
Another one...
Monkeys and gorillas. Need I say more? Enjoy your diversity!!
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:02:56am |
re: #402 Killgore Trout
Another one...
The Fox Nation comments are a prime example of poo flinging among lower primates.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:03:20am |
re: #399 PT Barnum
Is there no one there willing to say to these people "What the hell is wrong with you?!"
Nope. Nobody on the right can speak out against the open and blatant racism without being purged.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:03:30am |
re: #395 oaktree
And I saw a blurb today that 1 in 6 Americans are Hispanic. A growing demographic that the GOP seems currently to be thoroughly convinced can be ignored and/or slandered as necessary to keep their current base happy.
They're idiots to ignore the Hispanic vote. They made some inroads during hte Bush years but it's been downhill ever since Bush left office and the know nothings became more louder.
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Stanghazi Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:03:55am |
re: #403 PT Barnum
The Fox Nation comments are a prime example of poo flinging among lower primates.
Worse.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:04:49am |
re: #406 Stanley Sea
Worse.
Okay, they're the equivalent of that viral video of a chimp using himself as a drinking fountain, if you get my drift.
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NervyNews Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:05:16am |
re: #93 ggt
According to Syrian activists, AT LEAST 100 have been killed by the government on Wednesday alone!
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:06:30am |
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Somebody's drying socks again...
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:06:52am |
re: #401 oaktree
My parents went the irrevocable joint trust route and a lot of the details went very smoothly when nature took its course. Most of the issues and pain came from the final settling of my mother's estate where two major things went wrong:
1. The lawyer my brother hired to do probate work essentially did nothing for two years.
2. We found some accounts, including an IRA, that had to be split up (and taxed) at a later time. They were not included in the documentation my mother left and were discovered after my brother took over and handled things using power of attorney.
After my mom passed away in August, Dad and I had to figure out all the finances and I had to teach him how to pay bills, etc. He got a trust set up with a lawyer and we've just finally managed to get all of the bank accounts, vehicles, etc. put in the name of the trust. It's a big relief that I know where everything is and what to do when the time comes.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:09:21am |
What I find funny about people like the bigot on FoxNation who called blacks, animals is he's probably the same person who would argue with you that "Racism is dead in this country" yet in the same breath would tell you how oppressed as a white man, he is. That's the thing that amuses me about people like that.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:09:57am |
re: #410 Sionainn
After my mom passed away in August, Dad and I had to figure out all the finances and I had to teach him how to pay bills, etc. He got a trust set up with a lawyer and we've just finally managed to get all of the bank accounts, vehicles, etc. put in the name of the trust. It's a big relief that I know where everything is and what to do when the time comes.
My mom had that situation after her Dad died. In fact she was surprised to learn 40 years later that he had bought some energy stocks that she didn't know about. She was sent a letter. The good news, it was worth over $1million when she was told about it. The bad news, it was all in Enron (the final entity after all was said and done) and she lost all but about $10,000 when the company crashed and burned.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:10:24am |
re: #411 HappyWarrior
What I find funny about people like the bigot on FoxNation who called blacks, animals is he's probably the same person who would argue with you that "Racism is dead in this country" yet in the same breath would tell you how oppressed as a white man, he is. That's the thing that amuses me about people like that.
Nope... this is the sort of person that would call you a n****r right to your face.
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calochortus Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:11:32am |
re: #401 oaktree
It can be hard to get everything properly organized-including your lawyer. Mom had the advantage of being possibly the world's most organized person-and Dad was a close second. When Mom broke her hip, she arrived in the ER with a written list of her medications and her Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care in hand. She was told she was the most organized person they had ever seen there...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:11:32am |
re: #392 Buck
And yet both O'Reilly and Beck have passed on this story. Both have in fact said that they have no doubt about the Presidents birth certificate. O'Reilly went after the CNN guy (Lou Dobbs) when he questioned it.
If you saw the Hannity piece you would have seen that Obama supporter Jerry Springer didn't seem to know. And on the View, no one seemed to say the words... He has shown it... Instead of saying "why?"... How come Whoppie doesn't just say... "He has shown it... Catch up!"
I've no idea why anyone on TV talk shows does much of anything, except for money. What's your theory?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:12:27am |
re: #398 Killgore Trout
Breaking news, Fox style...
Fox Reporter's Racist Tweet: "Blacks Riot At Burger King"Lovely comments from Fox readers...
I'm an Ape Man, I'm AN APE, APE MAN...
...
Travel in packs just like wild animals. When stupid white trash do stupid things, most people will not take up for them. I'll call them stupid white trash. when these animals do these things, everyone place the race card. Call it like you see it. Animal instincts take over for them, riot, loot, band together. Yet check out the murder stats in New Orleans. Ghetto animals killing ghetto animals every night and day. KUMBA YA THIS you dingbat!!!
...
Burger king will now be required to post menus in ebonics..
...
sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.
How utterly fucking charming.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:12:42am |
re: #413 Walter L. Newton
Nope... this is the sort of person that would call you a n***r right to your face.
I don't know if he would do it in face. People act a lot more tougher behind keyboards. Ya know kinda like how the klan cowards never had the nads to show their faces.
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Sionainn Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:13:00am |
re: #412 PT Barnum
My mom had that situation after her Dad died. In fact she was surprised to learn 40 years later that he had bought some energy stocks that she didn't know about. She was sent a letter. The good news, it was worth over $1million when she was told about it. The bad news, it was all in Enron (the final entity after all was said and done) and she lost all but about $10,000 when the company crashed and burned.
Oh, geez, I can't even imagine. I know that $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at, but compared a million? Holy cow.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:14:10am |
re: #417 HappyWarrior
I don't know if he would do it in face. People act a lot more tougher behind keyboards. Ya know kinda like how the klan cowards never had the nads to show their faces.
What ever.
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simoom Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:17:42am |
re: #363 Killgore Trout
Yesterday's outrageous outrage was bogus...
Teacher letter to Ariz. lawmaker leads to inquiry
Oops, I made the mistake of scrolling to the comment section (I didn't realize I was at yahoo US news). I wonder what determines the political makeup of a seemingly nonpartisan news site's commentariat. It often seems that even Fox Nation has more liberal commentators than yahoo US news.
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:20:55am |
Is there still a way to send an email through LGF? IIRC, there used to be a way but I'm not sure how to go about it.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:21:36am |
re: #352 Walter L. Newton
We're not talking "start ups." We're talking about established movie and TV production companies, who come to the state and spends millions of dollars. Many states offer these companies tax breaks on the sales and service taxes for renting equipment, lodging and other large business expenses.
I'll give you an example. Back in the 90's, when NBC was in town filming the 4 hour made for TV movie "Asteroid," they were in the Denver area for 4 months. Employed over 2000 people total, that included on screen local talent, crew, catering and so on.
They spend about 5 million dollars in state on services. That's all a win-win, because that money gets spread around, taxes get paid on that money in state income tax, sales tax and so on.
We were giving production companies breaks on taxes and fees in the 90's. We had an average of 3-4 major productions in state every year.
Now.. nothing... that's can only be a loss to the state.
Ok, that may be different, but honestly I still have my doubts on whether a 6 or 7 percent (is that right?) overhead on direct expenses (not salaries and the like) is going to be a business killer for that kind of operation if Colorado scenery is called for.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:23:40am |
re: #420 simoom
Oops, I made the mistake of scrolling to the comment section (I didn't realize I was at yahoo US news). I wonder what determines the political makeup of a seemingly nonpartisan news site's commentariat. It often seems that even Fox Nation has more liberal commentators than yahoo US news.
I'd chalk that up to the fact taht yahoo is easy to register for and post on. Though on the flip side, I don't notice too many people there on the other end of the spectrum.
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engineer cat Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:24:17am |
i'm waiting for mittens to produce his birth certificate (the "long form" of course, since apparently a regular one is not good enough)
i don't believe mittens mcsmileypants was born in the united states - i think he was manufactured out of plastic in a high tech facility in a secret laboratory overseas
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HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:24:22am |
By the other end of the spectrum, I mean a vocal far left crowd just to clarify what I mean.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:25:06am |
Dunno if this has been posted yet, but it indicates that Scott Walker and his ilk have a much deeper beef with the concept of collective bargaining
[Link: www.salon.com...]
Wonder what Ronald Reagan would say?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:26:14am |
re: #422 Naso Tang
Ok, that may be different, but honestly I still have my doubts on whether a 6 or 7 percent (is that right?) overhead on direct expenses (not salaries and the like) is going to be a business killer for that kind of operation if Colorado scenery is called for.
It's simple... when you are spending 15 million dollars on a movie, 6-7 percent taxes, license fees, location fees, lodging taxes, special taxes and so on... come to a lot of money when you can get the same look and feel from ANY OTHER STATE AROUND US... Colorado is not so unique that New Mexico or Utah wouldn't make a fine stand in.
When NBC's 4 hour made for TV movie "Asteroid" was made in Denver, guess what, the movie didn't even take place in Denver... it took place in Boulder, Kanas City and Dallas/Fort Worth... it's you know... movie magic?
If Colorado scenery is called for, you can do it in Toronto if you have to...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:27:39am |
re: #399 PT Barnum
The people rioting were idiots.
Then, I started reading the posts below the story...
Sigh. I went to another site.
See what happens!?!?
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:35:21am |
re: #428 Walter L. Newton
Well, NYC has a pretty competitive film tax credit, but that doesn't mean that movies aren't filmed elsewhere. Vancouver and Toronto are both stand-ins for NYC. Why? B/c it is cheaper to film in those other locations than trying to do so in NYC.
Rumble in the Bronx - a Jackie Chan movie - claimed to be about a fight at a convenience store in the Bronx, but it was fought in the hilly streets of Vancouver (and no amount of movie magic could avoid showing the mountains in the background).
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:36:47am |
re: #415 SanFranciscoZionist
I've no idea why anyone on TV talk shows does much of anything, except for money. What's your theory?
I really don't have a theory. I honestly can't figure out how this story is still alive (among the media, I understand how it is still on the internet).
Anyway, I sent an email that explains everything about this story to Hannity...
It starts with "are you really that stupid?" and ends with "Thank you for listening to my last email and not having anti-semite Pat Buchanan on anymore"
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sliv_the_eli Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:39:44am |
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Buck Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:42:56am |
re: #430 lawhawk
Well, NYC has a pretty competitive film tax credit, but that doesn't mean that movies aren't filmed elsewhere. Vancouver and Toronto are both stand-ins for NYC. Why? B/c it is cheaper to film in those other locations than trying to do so in NYC.
Rumble in the Bronx - a Jackie Chan movie - claimed to be about a fight at a convenience store in the Bronx, but it was fought in the hilly streets of Vancouver (and no amount of movie magic could avoid showing the mountains in the background).
Canada was a lot cheaper when the exchange rate was 20%...today with the currency so close it has been more difficult to get the edge.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 24, 2011 10:54:18am |
re: #431 Buck
I really don't have a theory. I honestly can't figure out how this story is still alive (among the media, I understand how it is still on the internet).
Anyway, I sent an email that explains everything about this story to Hannity...
It starts with "are you really that stupid?" and ends with "Thank you for listening to my last email and not having anti-semite Pat Buchanan on anymore"
Fan mail!!
At least he's responsive.
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