Wingnut Fail of the Day: Bill Ayers ‘Admits’ He Wrote Obama’s Autobiography

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Here’s the flat-out hilarious wingnut blogosphere story of the day: World Net Daily wackos Jack Cashill and Jerome Corsi are once again trying to float the brain-dead conspiracy theory that left wing professor Bill Ayers wrote Barack Obama’s autobiography, Dreams from my Father.

Corsi and Cashill seem to be having a little tiff over who discovered the shocking video that proves it once and for all. Corsi has an “exclusive” in Weird Nut Drooly: Bill Ayers admits (again) he wrote Obama bio, while Cashill appears at WND’s red-headed stepchild American Thinker: Ayers affirms he wrote Dreams from my Father.

When I watched the video, I literally L’ed my A O, because these dunderheads apparently are completely unaware that Ayers is joking. He’s making fun of the very conspiracy theory Cashill and Corsi think he’s admitting to.

2011 is still young, but this could be the wingnut fail of the year, and it got all over the right wing blogs.

Here’s the video. Someone asks Ayers what he thought of Obama’s first book, and he replies:

Did you know that I wrote it? I wrote that, Dreams From My Father. Yeah, and if you can help me prove it I’ll split the royalties with you. [Laughter…]

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DERPOf course, the world’s dimmest right wing blogger, Jim Hoft, swallowed this tasty morsel of idiocy whole and ran with it: Video: Bill Ayers Admits (Again) He Wrote Obama’s First Book.

Like many have suspected, but most in the mainstream media and certainly in the White House will deny of course.. Just more affirmation of the fraud that is our President.

Imagine the media onslaught upon discovering that a former unrepentant radical terrorist repeatedly admitted on video he wrote George Bush’s first book.  We would never hear the end of it. Of course they play by different rules when it comes to Obama. This will get the usual “nothing to see here, move along” from the MSM.

Stop! You’re killing me!

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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:41:47am

Oh gawd.

2 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:42:15am

booga booga!

3 Joanne  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:42:39am

Yeah but...he forgot to say that he wrote it in his living room

4 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:43:27am

Sarcasm rarely works well with people that lack the ability to recognize or understand irony.

5 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:44:14am

No one is this stupid - you would forget to breathe and die.

There must be a perfectly reasonable explanation for all this.

6 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:45:32am

Stunning. Stupefied.

7 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:45:47am

Hello, Fox & Friends...you should run with this story before someone else does. You too, O'Reilly and Hannity. Oh, and Wolf...this might be one of those "The people have a right to know" questions you can ask on the situation room...just be sure you don't say it while standing too close to Jack Cafferty when he's within reach of a sharp object.

8 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:45:48am
9 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:46:20am

re: #8 Varek Raith

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Derpa, derpa, do! Duh-e!

10 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:46:34am

re: #8 Varek Raith

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That dog needs a decompression chamber, stat!

11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:46:38am

re: #5 iossarian

12 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:47:16am

Truly a battle of wits against unarmed opponents.

13 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:47:21am

My "You can't possibly be this dumb" meter just melted...

14 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:47:43am

re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Truly a battle of wits against unarmed opponents.

They are the most dangerous opponents of all.

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:48:16am

re: #13 Varek Raith

My "You can't possibly be this dumb" meter just melted...

Must be "this stupid" to opine.

16 Opal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:48:29am

Bwahaahaa: Loved it! Strangely, the people in that room "got it" as can be evidenced by their response. Why didn't these geniuses at World Nut Daily pick up on the laughter about the absurdity?

17 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:48:47am

re: #13 Varek Raith

My "You can't possibly be this dumb" meter just melted...

THEY'VE GONE PLAID!

18 Jeff In Ohio  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:00am

Remember the halcyon days of the Obama pre-inaugral, when the MSM assured us that this nonsense would pass once the election was done, everyone had settled down and the country pulled together to confront the most perilous economic times since the Great Depression? Good times. We had a new president, he had some big ideas and he was black - a demonstration of how far we'd come as a country and how much we wanted to put the clusterfuck known as the Bushco Years behind us and just push forward. Together. As one. Sharing sacrifice. Embracing a wide social compact. The culture wars were over. We could be sane. We could have our cake and eat it too.

Oh well, the president is still black.

19 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:02am

Internet trolls dream of people this gullible. There is nothing funnier than people who don't get sarcasm to a troll, because you can mock them to their faces, and they just keep feeding you more reasons to mock them.

20 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:03am

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In 2007, the Supreme Court, with a 5-4 vote, upheld the Partial Birth Abortion Act, which not only set a precedent of the court validating a ban on an abortion procedure necessary to preserve some women's lives, but also introduced a new justification to limit women's rights. Justice Anthony Kennedy argued in the majority opinion that the D&X procedure could be banned in order to save women from the possibility of regret down the road. After this ruling, anti-choice bills sprung up like weeds, many of them rooted in this same assumption that women are too silly to be trusted to make their own decisions. Waiting periods, ultrasound requirements and forced "counseling" all make accessing abortion that much harder -- even as each step is dressed up as protection for women against their own flightiness and inability to make good decisions.

But the bigger victory was getting a Democratic president to sign an executive order barring insurance companies from offering abortion coverage to customers who are using federal subsidies to pay for insurance. Barack Obama signed the order under duress; there was no way to pass his healthcare reform bill without doing so. But the lesson for Republicans was clear: When it comes to reproductive rights, they don’t actually need to be in charge to get their way. If reproductive rights can be exploited to nearly derail healthcare reform while the Democrats control Congress and the presidency, think of how much leverage the issue gives them now that they've gained control of the U.S. House and a bunch of new statehouses.

It’s hard to overstate how much Republican energy is invested in bringing the uteruses of America under right-wing control. The House went into an anti-choice frenzy upon being sworn in in January, passing two bills that would eliminate private insurance funding for abortion, one that would dramatically cut funding for international family planning, and the Pence Amendment, which would ban Planned Parenthood from receiving any federal funding. And in case the Pence Amendment doesn’t work, the House also zeroed out all funding for Title X, which subsidizes reproductive healthcare for low-income patients, in the continuing resolution that funds the federal budget.

For the right, rolling back reproductive rights is considered a worthy goal in its own right, but since the issue could also provoke a budget showdown that could result in a government shutdown, it's also a useful tool in their effort to force Democrats to blink. As with their push to bust unions at the state level, Republicans stand to gain electorally by wreaking havoc on the pro-choice movement and undermining its ability to get out the vote for Democrats.

On the state level, an unprecedented number of anti-choice bills are being introduced in response to the perceived anti-choice bent of the Supreme Court. Florida alone has introduced 18 separate anti-choice bills. Gov. Rick Perry of Texas has declared mandatory ultrasounds for abortion patients an emergency priority, and fast-tracked it through the Legislature. Three separate states have introduced bills that could legalize domestic terrorism against abortion providers, though a bill in South Dakota was withdrawn under pressure. Instead, that state's Legislature moved on to pass the most draconian abortion law in the country, one that would require a woman to wait 72 hours for an abortion and listen to a lecture from an anti-choice activist before having an abortion. These examples represent just a tiny fraction of the anti-choice bills percolating through state legislatures.

Can you tell I"m getting pissed?

21 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:06am

I think the Right has just realized they have to use up March's quota of crazy/stupid, and they're going all out to make sure it's all used up by mid-week.

22 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:11am

re: #14 Simply Sarah

They are the most dangerous opponents of all.

With THESE I cut him.

Karate man bruise on the inside, but you don't know that because you're a big Barry White-lookin' motherfucka!

23 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:15am

Bill screwed up. He forgot his sarcasm tags. It's his fault.

How the hell are you supposed to tell the printed word is steeped in sarcasm without the sarcasm tags?

It wasn't printed?

Oh.

24 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:49:39am

Reminds me of a scene from a very old episode of the Simpsons where the school kids are making fun of Lisa Simpson for being a vegatarian:

Sheri/Terri: Look at Missus Potato Head! She has a head made out of lettuce. [Giggles.]
Janie: Are you going to marry a carrot, Lisa?
Lisa: [Rolling her eyes.] Yes, I'm going to marry a carrot.
Sherri/Terri: Ohh! She admitted it. She's going to marry a carrot!

25 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:50:13am

re: #21 makeitstop

I think the Right has just realized they have to use up March's quota of crazy/stupid, and they're going all out to make sure it's all used up by mid-week.

Yeah. The rest of the week is going to be like cops handing out speeding tickets before the end of the month.

26 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:50:41am

re: #5 iossarian

No one is this stupid - you would forget to breathe and die.

There must be a perfectly reasonable explanation for all this.

It's part stupidity but it's mostly because the wingnuts no longer care what's real and what's not. Breitbart and OKeefe's fake videos, Beck's fake conspiracies, countless fake stories on right wing blogs. They've just stopped caring or being embarrassed by hyping fake stories.It's become the norm,

27 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:52:19am

they can't be this stupid.

28 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:52:52am

re: #20 ggt

I STAND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD, please click and click again and sign.

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Can you tell I"m getting pissed?

Can I get a Scarlet if I sign?

I would have signed, but there is no list of Canuck provinces, sorry.

29 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:53:20am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

It's part stupidity but it's mostly because the wingnuts no longer care what's real and what's not. Breitbart and OKeefe's fake videos, Beck's fake conspiracies, countless fake stories on right wing blogs. They've just stopped caring or being embarrassed by hyping fake stories.It's become the norm,

Yep. They just like hearing stuff that supports their ideas/bashes their opponents. Heck, it doesn't need to even do that. It just needs to sorta-kinda-not-really be close to something can pretend does. Doesn't matter if its clearly not true or what was said/done, the only point is to continue the frenzy.

30 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:53:39am

This is the time I'm afraid to call my RW Dad for our weekly chat. I'm scared he's bought into it.

31 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:54:45am

Ah, here it is...

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32 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:55:11am

re: #24 Charleston Chew

Reminds me of a scene from a very old episode of the Simpsons where the school kids are making fun of Lisa Simpson for being a vegatarian:

You aren't saying carrots aren't good enough for marriage are you?

33 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:55:25am

re: #27 SpaceJesus

they can't be this stupid.

Hang on. Let me check.

Yep. They can.

Sorry I took so long. //

34 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:56:02am

re: #27 SpaceJesus

they can't be this stupid.

I'll take that bet.

35 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:56:23am

re: #28 b_sharp

Can I get a Scarlet if I sign?

I would have signed, but there is no list of Canuck provinces, sorry.

I'm ready to spew fireballs right now.

Thanks for your efforts tho. I truly appreciate it.

36 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:56:58am

re: #4 Simply Sarah

Sarcasm rarely works well with people that lack the ability to recognize or understand irony.

Perhaps when people are so self-absorbed that they become addicted to ignoring all external information and simply project their narcissistic fears onto all they see and hear, their ability to "read" the thoughts and intentions of other people via their tone of voice and body language atrophies like muscles do in weightlessness. They lose the ability, even though it's to their own disadvantage.

37 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:57:02am

re: #27 SpaceJesus

they can't be this stupid.

Remember SJ, you are talking about WND.

38 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:57:32am

And to top it off we have some referrals coming in from Alex Jones sites today. They didn't like one of your articles about Drudge linking to them, Killgore.

39 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:58:14am

re: #33 Gus 802

Hang on. Let me check.

Yep. They can.

Sorry I took so long. //

No, they are not that stupid. They are damned smart. They know if they package the propaganda and use a fact-based source, their constituents won't know it's context and won't go looking.

It's the narrow-mined, but not necessarily uneducated constituents who swallow the propaganda that make me want to spew.

The propagandists are getting paid to do what they do. It's a job.

40 thecommodore  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:58:18am

re: #5 iossarian

No one is this stupid - you would forget to breathe and die.

There must be a perfectly reasonable explanation for all this.

There most certainly is an explanation for this:

Conservatives a deranged nitwits. Any negative narrative about Obama is good enough for them, even if it defies logic and common sense.

41 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:58:21am

Cashill has had his ass kicked before over this:

[Link: acephalous.typepad.com...]

Yet again, Jack Cashill proves why the country needs more actual literary critics.

Highly recommend.

42 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:58:48am

Michelle Bachmann decides slamming a early primary state is the way to go


"So I misplaced the battles Concord and Lexington by saying they were in New Hampshire," Bachmann posted on her Facebook page later. "It was my mistake, Massachusetts is where they happened. New Hampshire is where they are still proud of it!"

43 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:58:54am

re: #35 ggt

I'm ready to spew fireballs right now.

Thanks for your efforts tho. I truly appreciate it.

I fully understand you anger. The right has completely corrupted the purpose of PP just so they can poo-poo it.

44 jamesfirecat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:59:24am

Sarcasm fail like this is why so many on the right think Stephen Colbert is on their side...

45 Neo_  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:59:30am

This admission sounded just like the one a while back that Ayers gave a blogger at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The sarcasm giveaway was the line about how he would like to prove it so he could have a piece of the royalties. It was in both.

46 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:00:18pm

re: #41 iceweasel

Cashill has had his ass kicked before over this:

[Link: acephalous.typepad.com...]

Yet again, Jack Cashill proves why the country needs more actual literary critics.

Highly recommend.

I can't read it, I'm pissed enough right now.

47 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:01:20pm

re: #39 ggt

No, they are not that stupid. They are damned smart. They know if they package the propaganda and use a fact-based source, their constituents won't know it's context and won't go looking.

It's the narrow-mined, but not necessarily uneducated constituents who swallow the propaganda that make me want to spew.

The propagandists are getting paid to do what they do. It's a job.

Yet they claim the moral high road.

The irony is too thick to navigate, I couldn't possibly start to describe it.

48 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:01:48pm

re: #38 Charles

And to top it off we have some referrals coming in from Alex Jones sites today. They didn't like one of your articles about Drudge linking to them, Killgore.

Ha! Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, Fox News and the rest of the wingnuts all deserve each other. In fact, I can say at this point that I would only encourage wingnuts to continue to reference Alex Jones. Hot Air should jump on the bandwagon.

49 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:03:26pm

re: #38 Charles

And to top it off we have some referrals coming in from Alex Jones sites today. They didn't like one of your articles about Drudge linking to them, Killgore.

Nice!

50 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:04:42pm

Herman Cain: No Muslims in my administration

KEYES: You came under a bit of controversy this week for some of the comments made about Muslims in general. Would you be comfortable appointing a Muslim, either in your cabinet or as a federal judge?

CAIN: No, I would not. And here’s why. There is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government. It does not belong in our government. This is what happened in Europe. And little by little, to try and be politically correct, they made this little change, they made this little change. And now they’ve got a social problem that they don’t know what to do with hardly.

51 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:07:50pm

Speaking of batshit insane conspiracy theories, the WTC conspiracy theories continue popping up, and many of those who are proffering Obama birtherism are in on the trooferism.

They're trying to differentiate themselves from the WTC was an inside job nonsense to claim that something was amiss at 7WTC, which collapsed later in the day.

Except that they have no evidence to speak of either.

52 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:07:54pm

Planned Parenthood is having a Health Rally in DC on Thursday, April 7th (facebook link)

I have a friend going. Of course, I work part-time and my only regular full day is Thursdays. I don't think there is any way I can get off work other than quitting my job. Which might be worth it.

I'm glad they are having it on a Thursday when the Congress Critters are actually there. Instead of Friday or Monday when they are usually travelling to and from D.C.

53 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:07:55pm

From Infowars....

Liberal media hacks seem to share a bizarre collective hang-up about Matt Drudge linking to Infowars, as if it’s some kind of dirty secret. A few weeks ago, the Obama administration media front group Think Progress sent out a tweet admonishing Drudge for having the temerity to post an Infowars story on his website. Not to be outdone, neo-con blogs like Little Green Footballs also routinely throw tantrums when Drudge sends traffic to Alex Jones’ websites. The more these hacks throw their toys out of the pram, the more Drudge seems to link to us. Please keep complaining about it.

Hagan, Think Progress, LGF, Media Matters et al have all but abandoned hard news in favor of jealously whining about Alex Jones’ growing audience. These hacks cannot tolerate a free marketplace of ideas, so they have to try and strangle independent voices. It would be tragic if it were not so dangerous.


Ok

54 Winny Spencer  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:09:09pm

I love the fact that this blog is a "neo-con blog" myself.

55 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:09:38pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

From Infowars...


Ok

Do these whackos think so little of their own faith/religion that some bigger, badder religion can take over?

WTF, They want a Crusade and they aren't going to get it.

56 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:09:41pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Which would be unconstitutional on its face - Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:


The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

/epic fail

57 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:10:37pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Which would be unconstitutional on its face - Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:

/epic fail

In Liberty We Trust.

G-d, I love it!!!!!

58 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:11:05pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Herman Cain: No Muslims in my administration

CAIN: No, I would not. And here’s why. There is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government. It does not belong in our government. This is what happened in Europe. And little by little, to try and be politically correct, they made this little change, they made this little change. And now they’ve got a social problem that they don’t know what to do with hardly.

Meanwhile, in Europe:

EURO-CAIN: There is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease fundamentalist Christianity into our government. It does not belong in our government. This is what happened in America. And little by little, to try and be politically correct, they made this little change, they made this little change. And now they've got a social problem that they don't know what to do with hardly.

59 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:11:49pm

I gotta go clean something to work off this steam.

have a great afternoon all!

and click the Planned Parenthood site and sign the petition. PLEASE

email your friends, post it on your facebook, be Charles to make it a post . . .

60 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:13:08pm

So these people lack the ability to detect sarcasm and critical thinking skills.

61 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:13:34pm

re: #51 lawhawk

Speaking of batshit insane conspiracy theories, the WTC conspiracy theories continue popping up, and many of those who are proffering Obama birtherism are in on the trooferism.

They're trying to differentiate themselves from the WTC was an inside job nonsense to claim that something was amiss at 7WTC, which collapsed later in the day.

Except that they have no evidence to speak of either.

See, what I've never understood about the 7WTC thing is, uh. why? At least the whole airplanes into the towers deal has something that remotely passes as a motive (An insane and tortured line of pseudologic, to be sure, but I can at least see room to shoehorn in a conspiracy there). But why would anything underhanded happen with another building that almost no one not on the ground there cared about at the time (Or since)? I just can't see where you can even start down that path.

62 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:14:49pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Herman Cain: No Muslims in my administration

"...to try and be politically correct,...

I am so tired of hearing about something being 'politically correct' as if the term has any real meaning.

The right concocted that label and hammered it into a piss bucket where they stick all of the ideas they don't like or can't understand, good or bad, just to remove any need to actually address the issues.

63 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:15:24pm

re: #61 Simply Sarah

See, what I've never understood about the 7WTC thing is, uh. why? At least the whole airplanes into the towers deal has something that remotely passes as a motive (An insane and tortured line of pseudologic, to be sure, but I can at least see room to shoehorn in a conspiracy there). But why would anything underhanded happen with another building that almost no one not on the ground there cared about at the time (Or since)? I just can't see where you can even start down that path.

Giuliani did it to destroy evidence of.... something. I just know it.

/

64 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:16:35pm

New Yorker article.....A Strange Man Is Following You

It was Matt Drudge, whose obsessions with overreaching corporations like Google and his daily charting of the most granular signs of the Apocalypse add a nonpartisan element to his site’s right-wing cant, who did more than anyone else to make Jones more visible. “If you had to say there was one source who really helped us break out, who took our information, helped to punch it out to an even more effective level, he’s the guy,” says Jones. “Three years ago, there was almost no news coverage of Bilderberg [an elite conference] in this country; there was an electronic Berlin Wall. Drudge, every year, takes our reportage and links to it on our site.”

Jones says that it’s now “intensifying how much he links to us and promotes us,” recalling how Drudge, this past Christmas, made every link on the site green for the holidays—except links to Infowars, which Drudge published in red. “It was like a Christmas present,” says Jones.


Heh

65 Winny Spencer  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:16:55pm

re: #61 Simply Sarah

See, what I've never understood about the 7WTC thing is, uh. why? At least the whole airplanes into the towers deal has something that remotely passes as a motive (An insane and tortured line of pseudologic, to be sure, but I can at least see room to shoehorn in a conspiracy there). But why would anything underhanded happen with another building that almost no one not on the ground there cared about at the time (Or since)? I just can't see where you can even start down that path.

Yeah, that is possibly even more inane than common trutherism.

Terrorists really did fly planes into the twin towers. But building 7 - that was an inside job!!!

66 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:17:55pm

re: #62 b_sharp

I am so tired of hearing about something being 'politically correct' as if the term has any real meaning.

The right concocted that label and hammered it into a piss bucket where they stick all of the ideas they don't like or can't understand, good or bad, just to remove any need to actually address the issues.

It would be interesting to see a Venn diagram of people who dismiss opinions as being "politically correct" alongside those who frequently begin sentences with "I'm not a racist, but..."

67 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:18:10pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

New Yorker article...A Strange Man Is Following You


Heh

It's a long article but if you want to know how Alex Jones became mainstreamed by the wingnuts it's worth a read.

68 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:18:38pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

New Yorker article...A Strange Man Is Following You

Heh

Tweeted

69 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:18:59pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Which would be unconstitutional on its face - Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:

/epic fail

Well, I'm not sure there would really be grounds for a constitutional challenge to a President doing that. Positions appointed at the discretion of the President, absent any valid laws stating otherwise, are generally just that. Where the idea of religious tests would likely come into play would be if Congress passed a law preventing Muslims from holding certain posts or if the Executive made official policy on it. Just stating you won't appoint any, while terrible policy and, really, disgusting, is probably allowed.

70 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:20:34pm
Jones takes Beck’s success personally. “It’s very, very painful to see this biological android, a complete actor, reading off teleprompters and singing and dancing around and prancing around, a fairy dancing and prancing around, using my material,” he says.


ha!

71 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:22:04pm

re: #66 iossarian

It would be interesting to see a Venn diagram of people who dismiss opinions as being "politically correct" alongside those who frequently begin sentences with "I'm not a racist, but..."

Or "some of my best friends are ...".

72 Winny Spencer  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:22:08pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

It's a long article but if you want to know how Alex Jones became mainstreamed by the wingnuts it's worth a read.

The cultists are out in full force in the commentary section.

73 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:22:32pm

re: #69 Simply Sarah

Well, I'm not sure there would really be grounds for a constitutional challenge to a President doing that. Positions appointed at the discretion of the President, absent any valid laws stating otherwise, are generally just that. Where the idea of religious tests would likely come into play would be if Congress passed a law preventing Muslims from holding certain posts or if the Executive made official policy on it. Just stating you won't appoint any, while terrible policy and, really, disgusting, is probably allowed.

As far as I'm concerned this puts the lie to the idea that this was founded as a Christian nation. Wouldn't you think they would have made sure that anyone put into a position of power was a Christian if that was the case. Not to mention that the folks insisting this seem to fall strangely silent when you ask them which of the 3000 different denominations of Christianity will get the nod.

74 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:22:56pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

ha!

Drudge...

It was Matt Drudge, whose obsessions with overreaching corporations like Google and his daily charting of the most granular signs of the Apocalypse add a nonpartisan element to his site’s right-wing cant, who did more than anyone else to make Jones more visible. “If you had to say there was one source who really helped us break out, who took our information, helped to punch it out to an even more effective level, he’s the guy,” says Jones. “Three years ago, there was almost no news coverage of Bilderberg [an elite conference] in this country; there was an electronic Berlin Wall. Drudge, every year, takes our reportage and links to it on our site.”

Jones says that it’s now “intensifying how much he links to us and promotes us,” recalling how Drudge, this past Christmas, made every link on the site green for the holidays—except links to Infowars, which Drudge published in red. “It was like a Christmas present,” says Jones.

75 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:23:24pm

911 was an inside job! Whew, finally got that off my chest. -- Matt Drudge

76 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:23:48pm

re: #69 Simply Sarah

Well, I'm not sure there would really be grounds for a constitutional challenge to a President doing that. Positions appointed at the discretion of the President, absent any valid laws stating otherwise, are generally just that. Where the idea of religious tests would likely come into play would be if Congress passed a law preventing Muslims from holding certain posts or if the Executive made official policy on it. Just stating you won't appoint any, while terrible policy and, really, disgusting, is probably allowed.

Federal Law prohibits discrimination based on religion.

77 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:25:41pm

re: #73 PT Barnum

As far as I'm concerned this puts the lie to the idea that this was founded as a Christian nation. Wouldn't you think they would have made sure that anyone put into a position of power was a Christian if that was the case. Not to mention that the folks insisting this seem to fall strangely silent when you ask them which of the 3000 different denominations of Christianity will get the nod.

Oh, no serious, sane, and objective historian believes the whole "Christian nation" thing. The evidence to the contrary is quite clear and well documented. It's just that many people don't know or, more likely, don't care about any of that. They just ignore anything that might tarnish their fantasy of a nation founded specifically for Jesus Christ and their particular set of Christian theology.

78 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:26:41pm

So, when will Alex Jones get invited to CPAC?

79 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:27:48pm

If Ayers had written it, he wouldn't need help proving it. Forensic stylistic analysis would point to him as the author. (This has been done to reconstruct who wrote which essay in the Federalist Papers.) Ayers would also have preliminary drafts, on paper and with ink that could be authenticated as having the appropriate age.

If Ayers had written it, he wouldn't be joking about the matter. He'd be flatly denying it. Elaborating a lie and dancing around the edge of the truth is, as any Rex Stout "Nero Wolfe" fan knows, the road to being caught out.

Ayers isn't so stupid as to fall into that trap. If he's toying with his interviewers, it's because he knows he can't be caught out, because he DIDN'T WRITE IT.

True Believers will believe anything. It's pitiful.

80 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:29:18pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Federal Law prohibits discrimination based on religion.

Practically speaking, I'm not sure that would apply in this sort of situation, even if such laws were deemed to cover Executive appointments. Due to their nature, if may be hard to prove anything. And even if you could, it would likely be too late to do anything about it after the fact.

81 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:31:29pm

re: #61 Simply Sarah

It's an unending focus of troofers. 7 WTC was where the whole misguided meme of "fire can't melt steel" got its start because the build collapsed later in the day after not being hit by the planes (but it was damaged severely from the collapsing towers in key areas) and because there were several government offices in the building, including the NYC OEM command. Oh, and the IRS, CIA, and DoD shared a floor in the original building.

82 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:32:40pm

re: #72 Winny Spencer

The cultists are out in full force in the commentary section.

I noticed. Alex Jones fans are like Scientologists. Maybe even worse. But it sure is a cult.

83 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:34:16pm

re: #62 b_sharp

In point of fact, I think it was actually The New Left that spread the term initially in the late 60s, and used it in a positive sense, but people quickly became annoyed by the stick up their ass and the term took on negative connotations.

But I agree with you that "conservatives" have used the word's negative sense a lot since as a way of saying "I refuse to not be a douche!" In the UK, the phrase "political correctness gone mad" has become a running joke for comedians, as in "Not allowing me to steal candy from a baby is political correctness gone mad!"

It's interesting that a word can go from positive to negative connotations and then stay negative, but the opposite never happens.

84 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:38:38pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

ha!

Alex Jones sounds a smidgen jealous that Beck is the one with the (waning) power and glory and the money, instead of him...

85 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:38:48pm

If Glenn Beck leaves Fox News to start his own "network" will Fox News pick up Alex Jones? Or perhaps Glenn Beck will find a slot for Alex Jones?

Stay tuned.

86 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:39:10pm

The last page talks about Fox....

Ted Anderson sees Jones getting his own TV show any moment now. And the programming of Fox News, he believes, is moving in Jones’s direction.

“They’re loosening up a little bit about the types of things you can talk about,” says Anderson. “You are hearing about 9/11 conspiracies on Fox. There’s no doubt about it. One of these cable channels is going to come up with a bona fide offer with no gag on him and say, ‘Go get ’em,’ and Alex Jones will become popular on television.”

Jones calls Fox News “alternative media for old people,” which is why he believes Fox has begun aping his edgy take on the world, especially on the Fox Business Network, where libertarian views have more traction. “They’re taking the nomenclature I’ve used,” he says, “as they move toward the transition to more of what I’m doing. And I have that from inside. I’m not going to say any names, but I have multiple sources.”

87 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:39:20pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'll take that bet.

I dunno. I have a pretty low opinion of conservatives, but I think this is just them knowing they are wrong and stupid, and doing it anyway.

88 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:40:26pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Federal Law prohibits discrimination based on religion.

Not in presidential appointments. Not one of the justices on the S.C. is Protestant. If there were quotas governing the selection of nominees to the SC, to see that they fit the national distribution of membership in various faiths, that would not be allowed.

The Constitution forbids a LAW that would disqualify, or uniquely select, a job candidates' religion at any level. But there is no federal law that forbids a president from proclaiming that his next SC justice nominee will be, say, Mormon. Or Muslim. Or neither. That would be gauche, but legal.

89 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:41:40pm

LOL Check this freak out...

@stuckntwit tweetie
RT @Gus_802: "STAND w/ PLANNED PARENTHOOD"-- y WHY y an ANOTHER y WTF 4?SAVE FRIGGIN TREES THE CLIMATE, WOMBS,wht about the CHILDREN? #tcot

Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

90 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:42:49pm

re: #83 Charleston Chew

In point of fact, I think it was actually The New Left that spread the term initially in the late 60s, and used it in a positive sense, but people quickly became annoyed by the stick up their ass and the term took on negative connotations.

But I agree with you that "conservatives" have used the word's negative sense a lot since as a way of saying "I refuse to not be a douche!" In the UK, the phrase "political correctness gone mad" has become a running joke for comedians, as in "Not allowing me to steal candy from a baby is political correctness gone mad!"

It's interesting that a word can go from positive to negative connotations and then stay negative, but the opposite never happens.

You're just being pompous, awful, and artificial.

91 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:42:58pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

The last page talks about Fox...

“They’re taking the nomenclature I’ve used,” [Jones] says, “as they move toward the transition to more of what I’m doing. And I have that from inside. I’m not going to say any names, but I have multiple sources.”

Batshit crazy is still batshit crazy no matter where it's being spouted out, whether at InfoWars/PrisonPlanet, Fox News, or anywhere else, Alex.

92 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:43:06pm

re: #89 Gus 802

That pic is great.

93 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:43:14pm

re: #88 lostlakehiker

Not in presidential appointments. Not one of the justices on the S.C. is Protestant. If there were quotas governing the selection of nominees to the SC, to see that they fit the national distribution of membership in various faiths, that would not be allowed.

The Constitution forbids a LAW that would disqualify, or uniquely select, a job candidates' religion at any level. But there is no federal law that forbids a president from proclaiming that his next SC justice nominee will be, say, Mormon. Or Muslim. Or neither. That would be gauche, but legal.

Well, it's not quite as simple as that. Quotas are different than forbidding discrimination based on a trait, since that just means you're supposed to not take that into account (At least, not in a negative sense). The lack of a specific group doesn't mean they were discriminated against, although it can suggest it, depending on the circumstances.

94 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:43:35pm

re: #92 Charleston Chew

That pic is great.

She looks nuts.

95 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:44:09pm

re: #90 lostlakehiker

You're just being pompous, awful, and artificial.

I am? I didn't know I was.

96 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:44:57pm

re: #89 Gus 802

LOL Check this freak out...

@stuckntwit tweetie
RT @Gus_802: "STAND w/ PLANNED PARENTHOOD"-- y WHY y an ANOTHER y WTF 4?SAVE FRIGGIN TREES THE CLIMATE, WOMBS,wht about the CHILDREN? #tcot

Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

YEaH! WHO NeeDS a fRIGGIN' CLIMATE???

97 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:45:53pm

re: #96 iossarian

YEaH! WHO NeeDS a fRIGGIN' CLIMATE???

You should see the rest of her Tweets. Wingnuts are frigging trashy psychos.

98 Randy W. Weeks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:45:55pm

re: #89 Gus 802

LOL Check this freak out...

@stuckntwit tweetie
RT @Gus_802: "STAND w/ PLANNED PARENTHOOD"-- y WHY y an ANOTHER y WTF 4?SAVE FRIGGIN TREES THE CLIMATE, WOMBS,wht about the CHILDREN? #tcot

Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

Bachmann Eyes.

99 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:46:44pm

re: #89 Gus 802

LOL Check this freak out...

@stuckntwit tweetie
RT @Gus_802: "STAND w/ PLANNED PARENTHOOD"-- y WHY y an ANOTHER y WTF 4?SAVE FRIGGIN TREES THE CLIMATE, WOMBS,wht about the CHILDREN? #tcot

Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

EYEBEEMZZZ

100 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:46:56pm

re: #90 lostlakehiker

Artificial is one of my favorite words. So many of the best things in life are artificial,

101 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:47:28pm

re: #96 iossarian

YEaH! WHO NeeDS a fRIGGIN' CLIMATE???

Or wombs, for that matter. /

102 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:47:41pm

re: #96 iossarian

re: #98 LoneStarSpur

re: #99 Varek Raith

It's the classic Eleventy!!11ty response.

103 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:47:58pm

More confusion!

Cool, what the hell, tune it all out, smoke a cigar.

104 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:48:32pm

oh onion,

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

105 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:49:07pm

re: #89 Gus 802
Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

Compare:

106 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:49:21pm

re: #94 Gus 802

The heart-shaped border... and I can only assume the carving knife is just off-screen.

107 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:50:11pm

re: #89 Gus 802

LOL Check this freak out...

@stuckntwit tweetie
RT @Gus_802: "STAND w/ PLANNED PARENTHOOD"-- y WHY y an ANOTHER y WTF 4?SAVE FRIGGIN TREES THE CLIMATE, WOMBS,wht about the CHILDREN? #tcot

Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

Kathy Bates in "Misery"

108 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:50:23pm

re: #105 jaunte

Here's her photo.

Image: Snapshot_20091028.jpg

Compare:

[Video]

109 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:50:37pm

Gingrich fears 'atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'


Hours after declaring Sunday that he expects to be running for president within a month, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said he's worried the United States could be “a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists,” in the foreseeable future, according to Politico.

Gingrich was addressing Cornerstone Church, a megachurch in San Antonio, Texas, led by the Rev. John Hagee, an influential leader among American evangelicals.

110 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:51:12pm

re: #100 Charleston Chew

Artificial is one of my favorite words. So many of the best things in life are artificial,

So...what? Taco Bell, porn, breasts, pro wrestling, Joan Rivers, and the social lives of most MMORPG players?
/

111 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:51:18pm

re: #107 Alouette

Kathy Bates in "Misery"

I feel like I just got off the city bus. Ooh look, crazy person!

112 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:51:46pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gingrich fears 'atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'

Lol. Stupid fucking idiot.

113 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:51:52pm

re: #90 lostlakehiker

You're just being pompous, awful, and artificial.

How so? Give some concrete examples to refute what Charleston Chew said.

I've come to realize, more or less, the same thing as CC did, as the current usage of "politically correct" is being done by many who identify themselves as "conservatives" nowadays. They seem to be saying, "I'm inflexible, I should be able to do and say the same things we did decades ago without repercussions or criticism, no matter how offensive or anachronistic it may be, even though society has changed."

Tell me I'm wrong (and show me how)...

114 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:52:06pm

re: #112 iossarian

Lol. Stupid fucking idiot.

You're too kind. ;)

115 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:52:49pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wish Gingrich would just shut up, and I say that as a sincerely religious person.

116 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:53:02pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gingrich fears 'atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'

Excuse me. I need to go reboot my brain a few times to recover from the crash that caused...

117 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:53:03pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Proof that enough pandering can make you sound insane.

118 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:53:35pm

I still think this is hilarious.

Dramatic Prairie dog attacks people

119 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:53:51pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

wait i thought it was me linking to the onion

120 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:54:20pm

re: #117 jaunte

Proof that enough pandering can make you sound insane.

FTFY

121 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:54:51pm

re: #110 Simply Sarah

So...what? Taco Bell, porn, breasts, pro wrestling, Joan Rivers, and the social lives of most MMORPG players?
/

No one has ever summed up my biography so succinctly before.

122 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:55:55pm

re: #120 Ojoe

I think in this case Gingrich knows what he has to say to gain support, and he's just outrageously cynical enough to say it.

123 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:56:07pm

re: #112 iossarian

Lol. Stupid fucking idiot.

That's the thing...Newt is no idiot, but he's is pandering to those who may be idiots. It's cold calculation of the lowest order.

124 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:56:41pm

re: #122 jaunte

He's a 640 acre fart.

125 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:58:14pm

Speaking of Newt...

Gingrich To Kick Off Awakening 2011 Via Invitation-Only Luncheon With Birther King Joseph Farah

The Freedom Federation's "Awakening 2011" conference is being held next week at Liberty University and I think nothing better sums up what we can be expected from the event than the fact that it kicks-off with a speech from Lila Rose followed by an invitation-only luncheon with Newt Gingrich and Birther king Joseph Farah...

126 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:01:10pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

he's worried the United States could be “a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists,”

LOLWTF.

I'm sure he also fears crop failures which cause an epidemic of obesity, and instantly fatal airborne ebola causing a population explosion.

127 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:01:32pm

re: #125 Gus 802

Speaking of Newt...

Gingrich To Kick Off Awakening 2011 Via Invitation-Only Luncheon With Birther King Joseph Farah

Let's be fair. Birther King has some pretty good lunch deals on its Value Menu.

128 Winny Spencer  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:02:17pm

re: #127 Simply Sarah

Let's be fair. Birther King has some pretty good lunch deals on its Value Menu.

Fantastic. Updingy.

129 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:02:57pm

re: #127 Simply Sarah

Let's be fair. Birther King has some pretty good lunch deals on its Value Menu.

And they only serve Freedom Fries™.

130 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:02:59pm

The comments at Fox Nation for this stupid story are off the hook hilarious.

[Link: nation.foxnews.com...]

Gibbsdithers 1 hour ago

WHAT!!!?????

Why isn't this front page news? Why isn't it the lead story on FOX? Is this another 'Onion' rib? Clearly not, since it comes out of Ayer's own mouth. This would certainly support the pre-election theory's that Obama and Ayer's definitely were not merely acquaintances but close friends. Gee, does that mean that perhaps he understood every nuance of Reverend Wright's animated sermons anchored in Marxist Theology? Which he shouted to the rafters, jumping around like a maniac. How could you deny that you heard him, understood him, followed him?

Hmmm. That would mean that Obama is not quite 'transparent'. Even though ACORN Obama is such a casual liar, even if their were footage of him kissing the top of Ayer's bald head he'd deny he ever knew him.

Now the question remains. Did Ayer's mean DREAMS OF MY FATHER is a work of fiction that he (Ayer's) completely conjured to the point that he 'gave Obama a life and a history'? Or that Ayer's acted as a traditional ghost writer in the true sense of the word and who worked on this autobiography based on the 'factual' memories of ACORN Obama? Now even his literary career appears to be murky.

131 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:04:28pm

re: #130 Charles

The comments at Fox Nation for this stupid story are off the hook hilarious.

[Link: nation.foxnews.com...]

The term "Marxist Theology" slays me. These morons have no idea how funny they are.

132 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:04:56pm

re: #127 Simply Sarah

Let's be fair. Birther King has some pretty good lunch deals on its Value Menu.

I don't trust them. They say their beef's American, but I want to see proof.

133 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:05:29pm

re: #131 Fozzie Bear

The term "Marxist Theology" slays me. These morons have no idea how funny they are.

They're all stuck in 2008.

134 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:05:39pm

Obviously when I state I am Immense and Immortal, it is the literal truth and all of reality must fall in line behind that position.

How else could it be taken?

135 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:05:59pm

I'm going to take the optimistic view of all this wacko BS: Things are looking on track for an Obama 2nd term. All the raging, frothy craziness might look good to the base but it will look bad with the general public - and don't think liberals aren't paying close attention so they can dredge all this shit back up for maximum effect.

136 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:06:15pm

re: #130 Charles

That would mean that Obama is not quite 'transparent'.

Brings to mnd Marley's ghost in A Christmas Carol.

LOL

137 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:07:14pm

re: #132 Charleston Chew

I don't trust them. They say their beef's American, but I want to see proof.

Now on the GOP menu for America, tube steak.

138 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:07:17pm

re: #130 Charles

Is this another 'Onion' rib?

It's as if some small part of their subconscious realizes just how easily they can be fooled, and yet the conscious mind soldiers on.

139 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:08:08pm

Spare me another Onion rib.

140 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:08:36pm

re: #135 prononymous

I'm going to take the optimistic view of all this wacko BS: Things are looking on track for an Obama 2nd term. All the raging, frothy craziness might look good to the base but it will look bad with the general public - and don't think liberals aren't paying close attention so they can dredge all this shit back up for maximum effect.

I'm less than enthusiastic about Obama, really. I would be optimistic if there were an alternative that wasn't completely batshit insane. Just once in my life I want to be able to vote in an election where I had to choose between two very well qualified, intelligent, and level-headed candidates.

141 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:09:57pm

re: #140 Fozzie Bear

You might want to join the Modern Whig Party ...

142 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:10:00pm

re: #139 Ojoe

Spare me another Onion rib.

If you want another Onion rib, you better come and grab one before they're all gone.

Now I want some ribs.

143 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:10:17pm

re: #135 prononymous

I'm going to take the optimistic view of all this wacko BS: Things are looking on track for an Obama 2nd term. All the raging, frothy craziness might look good to the base but it will look bad with the general public - and don't think liberals aren't paying close attention so they can dredge all this shit back up for maximum effect.

Thing is, even if Obama wins a second term, I'm not sure I like what recent history indicates would likely follow. Other than Reagan/Bush Sr., we haven't had more than 8 years of a party holding the Presidency since FDR and Truman, although Nixon and Gore were pretty close. I mean, I know that doesn't mean things will follow that pattern, but it does seem to suggest a history of having people wanting something different and parties lacking a good followup.

144 Charleston Chew  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:10:53pm

re: #130 Charles

Also love the commenter's use of the term "ACORN Obama" as if they're slowly constructing some kind of Voltron of nonsensical fears.

145 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:10:55pm

re: #122 jaunte

I think in this case Gingrich knows what he has to say to gain support, and he's just outrageously cynical enough to say it.

re: #123 talon_262

That's the thing...Newt is no idiot, but he's is pandering to those who may be idiots. It's cold calculation of the lowest order.

This. Only about half the GOP field running for the presidential nomination is nuts. The other half is just unbelievably cynical.

146 Interesting Times  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:11:50pm

re: #137 prononymous

Saw your posts on the last threads about looking for music - have you looked into infrasound compositions? Seems ideal for the effect you're going for, and the one on the page I linked is under a Creative Commons license.

147 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:11:57pm

Pretty funny that Obama is vulnerable to off hand remarks by Ayers, though.

What a mess politics has become, even more than the usual mess it is, I think.

148 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:12:34pm

re: #142 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Spare ribs with BBQ sauce, hot from the smoking Weber.

149 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:12:38pm

re: #127 Simply Sarah

Let's be fair. Birther King has some pretty good lunch deals on its Value Menu.

It's their Family Values menu I object to./

150 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:13:00pm

re: #147 Ojoe

Pretty funny that Obama is vulnerable to off hand remarks by Ayers, though.

What a mess politics has become, even more than the usual mess it is, I think.

This isn't Obama's vulnerability on display here. It's the GOP's.

151 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:14:25pm

re: #146 publicityStunted

Thank you. I'll probably just use licensed tracks later. But saving some money early in the game helps a lot.

152 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:14:38pm

re: #150 Fozzie Bear

Also Obama's, because it casts doubt upon him in some circles, or bolsters the doubt already there.

It is lose-lose.

153 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:14:39pm
Now the question remains. Did Ayer's mean DREAMS OF MY FATHER is a work of fiction that he (Ayer's) completely conjured to the point that he 'gave Obama a life and a history'?

Okay, so option one is that Obama's Batman.

154 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:14:41pm

re: #149 iceweasel

It's their Family Values menu I object to./

NO SUBSTITUTIONS!

155 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:15:22pm

re: #153 iceweasel

Okay, so option one is that Obama's Batman.

Biden as Robin???
I dunno....
XD

156 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:15:28pm

re: #149 iceweasel

It's their Family Values menu I object to./

Aaaaaaaaaah. I was so focused on grabbing the first piece of low hanging fruit I saw that I missed the second!

157 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:15:43pm

re: #145 Fozzie Bear

Trying to decode his statement, I think he was suggesting that the only salvation from the (weak, atheistic) country being dominated by Islamists are the people like those in Hagee's congregation. Sucking up, basically.

158 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:16:23pm

re: #152 Ojoe

Also Obama's, because it casts doubt upon him in some circles, or bolsters the doubt already there.

It is lose-lose.

The circles in which it casts doubt are scaring the crap out of the middle. The more angry and delusional the right gets, the smaller it gets.

159 Girth  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:17:17pm

Mr. Hoft,

This was a joke. You either A) didn't get it and took him seriously, B) understood that it was a joke and wrote what you did anyways.

If A, then you need to have someone explain comedy to you. I highly recommend a viewing of Airplane! in the company of someone who understands what is funny so that they can explain it to you.

If B, you're a shit-stain propagandist beneath contempt (because let's face it, this is not an isolated incident for you) and follow Les Grossman's advice below (NSFW language).

Fuck you,

Girth

P.S. We all know that it's B.

160 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:17:50pm

re: #159 Girth

I dunno man, have you seen his haircut?

161 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:17:54pm

re: #155 Varek Raith

Biden as Robin???
I dunno...
XD

The Batmobile.

162 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:19:49pm

re: #153 iceweasel

Okay, so option one is that Obama's Batman.

Of course he's Batman. His parents are dead and why do you think he spent so much time learning martial arts in Kenya?
/

163 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:20:48pm

re: #140 Fozzie Bear
I definitely don't agree with everything Obama has done or classify him as the ideal candidate. But based on his opposition so far, I'd vote for him again if they had any chance at office.

re: #143 Simply Sarah

I don't follow. A second Obama term would still be under 8 years.

164 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:21:59pm

re: #163 prononymous

I definitely don't agree with everything Obama has done or classify him as the ideal candidate. But based on his opposition so far, I'd vote for him again if they had any chance at office.

re: #143 Simply Sarah

I don't follow. A second Obama term would still be under 8 years.

My concern is that a Republican will follow after Obama and the GOP will still be in batshit crazy mode at that time.

165 Girth  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:22:16pm

Les Grossman may have been Tom Cruise's finest work ever.

166 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:23:22pm

The 2012 GOP Race Is Getting Better All The Time
Submitted by Kyle on March 28, 2011 - 1:06pm

In case you were starting to think that the 2012 Republican primary campaign could not possibly get any more entertaining, think again ... because the Wall Street Journal reports that Roy Moore, the infamous Ten Commandments judge, is about to toss his hat into the ring...

167 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:23:56pm

Is the GOP a white Christian male party or what?

168 Girth  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:25:20pm

re: #164 Simply Sarah

My concern is that a Republican will follow after Obama and the GOP will still be in batshit crazy mode at that time.

My sincere hope is that a Mondale-style electoral defeat of a TPGOP candidate in 2012 will begin to restore sanity to the GOP. If the election is close it will only get worse.

169 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:25:20pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Is the GOP a white Christian male party or what?

Gallup sez so.

170 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:25:43pm

re: #166 Gus 802

The 2012 GOP Race Is Getting Better All The Time
Submitted by Kyle on March 28, 2011 - 1:06pm

If this keeps up and people don't start dropping out too soon, there may actually be a pretty decent chance of a candidate taking a moderate stance winning the GOP nod, if only because he or she takes 30% of the vote and 50 people on the far-right split the remaining 70%.

171 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:26:44pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Is the GOP a white Christian male party or what?

172 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:27:12pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Is the GOP a white Christian male party or what?

I'd hate to attend one of their swinging parties.

173 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:27:15pm

re: #168 Girth

My sincere hope is that a Mondale-style electoral defeat of a TPGOP candidate in 2012 will begin to restore sanity to the GOP. If the election is close it will only get worse.

Sadly, I don't think that type of landslide is possible in the current political climate. I see a Tea Party-backed candidate winning quite a few states in the general.

174 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:27:50pm

re: #164 Simply Sarah

My concern is that a Republican will follow after Obama and the GOP will still be in batshit crazy mode at that time.

Maybe. But they are batshit crazy right now. If this strategy loses them the election and yet they go ahead and stay crazy then I can't really feel sorry for them. They are doing this to themselves and it is a vicious feedback loop. If the loop isn't broken by a moment of self reflection then they will just marginalize themselves right out of existence.

175 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:28:39pm

re: #172 b_sharp

I'd hate to attend one of their swinging parties.

Newt would start talking about his new Contract with America while he hits on your wife.

176 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:29:50pm

re: #174 prononymous

Maybe. But they are batshit crazy right now. If this strategy loses them the election and yet they go ahead and stay crazy then I can't really feel sorry for them. They are doing this to themselves and it is a vicious feedback loop. If the loop isn't broken by a moment of self reflection then they will just marginalize themselves right out of existence.

So we can hope.

177 garhighway  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:31:37pm

re: #172 b_sharp

I'd hate to attend one of their swinging parties.

You might get some Santorum on you.

178 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:31:47pm

re: #174 prononymous

Maybe. But they are batshit crazy right now. If this strategy loses them the election and yet they go ahead and stay crazy then I can't really feel sorry for them. They are doing this to themselves and it is a vicious feedback loop. If the loop isn't broken by a moment of self reflection then they will just marginalize themselves right out of existence.

Viscous feedback loop.

179 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:32:13pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt would start talking about his new Contract with America while he hits on your wife.

Reminds me of pedophile priests who talk of how their Contract with God requires them to show affection for children.

180 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:32:44pm

re: #177 garhighway

You might get some Santorum on you.

Ewww.

I should be safe though, I'm not Christian.

181 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:34:44pm

I'll be Bach!

Must go to store and take break from drilling noises.

182 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:34:48pm

re: #178 b_sharp

Viscous feedback loop.

And a Vicious loop.

183 garhighway  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:34:58pm

re: #173 Simply Sarah

Sadly, I don't think that type of landslide is possible in the current political climate. I see a Tea Party-backed candidate winning quite a few states in the general.

Too soon to tell. If they alienate everyone but conservative white males and their spouses, the math gets pretty compelling.

One of these days, Nate Silver will do that analysis, and I suspect it will be pretty interesting.

184 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:35:10pm

re: #181 Gus 802

I'll be Bach!

Must go to store and take break from drilling noises.

And you call yourself a dentist...

185 BishopX  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:35:51pm

re: #170 Simply Sarah

If we had simultaneous primaries that might be the case, but we don't and this allows front runners to emerge, and people tend to vote for the front runners. My guess is that most of the crazies will be gone after the first few primaries, leaving three or four candidates standing.

186 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:37:10pm

re: #185 BishopX

If we had simultaneous primaries that might be the case, but we don't and this allows front runners to emerge, and people tend to vote for the front runners. My guess is that most of the crazies will be gone after the first few primaries, leaving three or four candidates standing.

Except now, the GOP is seeding the field with all crazies.

187 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:37:23pm

re: #185 BishopX

If we had simultaneous primaries that might be the case, but we don't and this allows front runners to emerge, and people tend to vote for the front runners. My guess is that most of the crazies will be gone after the first few primaries, leaving three or four candidates standing.

Granted. It would require the moderate to win most/all of the early contests and become seen as the overall winner at that point, probably.

188 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:37:45pm

re: #180 b_sharp

Ewww.

I should be safe though, I'm not Christian.

Cool...you'll get raptured with the rest of us non-Christians. God's only leaving the faithful behind to fight to the death with the evil doers, because that's what they signed up for. The rest of us get to be sucked up to heaven where we can say, "Whoa, shit...had I only known..." and then we get our wings.

189 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:38:15pm

OT:

Do you guys have any part of your government that is elected every two years?

190 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:38:36pm

re: #188 darthstar

In heaven, everyone gets a set of bagpipes.

191 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:39:03pm

re: #190 Ojoe

In heaven, everyone gets a set of bagpipes.

Sounds more like hell.

192 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:39:19pm

re: #190 Ojoe

In heaven, everyone gets a set of bagpipes.

Nobody sucks at bagpipes. Everybody blows.

193 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:39:32pm

re: #191 Charles

Sounds more like hell.

Hell gets accordions.

194 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:39:52pm

re: #191 Charles

LOL

195 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:39:53pm

re: #191 Charles

Sounds more like hell.

No, hell would be having 72 virgins follow you around asking why you never call.

196 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:40:09pm

re: #190 Ojoe

In heaven, everyone gets a set of bagpipes.

Stairway to heaven.

197 avanti  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:40:21pm

Credit Hot Air for posting this video of a Pakistani actress tearing a conservative cleric a new one. She reduces him to a pile of rubble IMHO.


198 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:40:45pm

Imagine billions of people playing bagpipes.

Hard to imagine a worse everlasting punishment.

199 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:41:46pm

re: #198 Charles

Imagine billions of people playing bagpipes.

Hard to imagine a worse everlasting punishment.

Billions of people playing bagpipes and sitting next to Geller?

200 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:41:47pm

re: #196 b_sharp

Very very cool! Thanks!

201 webevintage  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:42:29pm

re: #38 Charles

And to top it off we have some referrals coming in from Alex Jones sites today. They didn't like one of your articles about Drudge linking to them, Killgore.

Hello crazy people....waves....

202 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:42:37pm

re: #198 Charles

Imagine billions of people playing bagpipes.

Hard to imagine a worse everlasting punishment.

Why the World Cup will never be held in Scotland.

203 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:43:59pm

re: #202 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Why the World Cup will never be held in Scotland.

I'm informed it's also because they're shite.

204 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:44:28pm

This is a fun site.

205 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:44:55pm

re: #190 Ojoe

In heaven, everyone gets a set of bagpipes.


Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven
....the first thing they ask for when they get here is a halo and a harp, and so on. Nothing that's harmless and reasonable is refused a body here, if he asks it in the right spirit. So they are outfitted with these things without a word. They go and sing and play just about one day, and that's the last you'll ever see them in the choir. They don't need anybody to tell them that that sort of thing wouldn't make a heaven - at least not a heaven that a sane man could stand a week and remain sane. That cloud-bank is placed where the noise can't disturb the old inhabitants, and so there ain't any harm in letting everybody get up there and cure himself as soon as he comes.
-Twain

206 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:45:05pm

re: #203 iceweasel

I'm informed it's also because they're shite.

It can be dangerous playing soccer while wearing a kilt.

207 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:47:12pm

re: #206 b_sharp

It can be dangerous playing soccer while wearing a kilt.

You can do this though:

208 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:49:02pm

re: #207 Ojoe

You can do this though:

[Video]

I've always wanted to toss a caber,... or a dwarf.

209 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:49:33pm

re: #208 b_sharp

That guy was pretty awesome.

210 iossarian  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:49:53pm

re: #196 b_sharp

Stairway to heaven.

God that's awful.

211 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:50:21pm

Might be worse to go to heaven, and find out it's full of people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

212 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:52:01pm

re: #211 Charles

Might be worse to go to heaven, and find out it's full of people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

Or Reverend Wright.

213 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:53:07pm

re: #211 Charles

I'm not going.

214 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:53:53pm

re: #211 Charles

I may be wrong, but I believe you misspelled the word "Hell".
/

215 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:55:33pm

re: #176 Simply Sarah

So we can hope.

No, I don't hope for that. A one party America is even less desirable than a two party America. I hope that the Republican party stops and takes a long hard look at where they are headed, and decide to change course.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen. If they do become marginalized they have only themselves to blame. I don't cry over the Whigs either.

216 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:57:03pm

Hundreds of pipers at once. Heaven, and no Fawell:

217 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:57:22pm

re: #215 prononymous

No, I don't hope for that. A one party America is even less desirable than a two party America. I hope that the Republican party stops and takes a long hard look at where they are headed, and decide to change course.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen. If they do become marginalized they have only themselves to blame. I don't cry over the Whigs either.

I meant that things would improve with them. In any case, if the GOP were to fall apart, I'm sure at least one other party would rise/be created to fill the void.

218 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 1:59:16pm

re: #217 Simply Sarah

I meant that things would improve with them. In any case, if the GOP were to fall apart, I'm sure at least one other party would rise/be created to fill the void.

Ayep, so long as political parties have existed in this nation, there has been a minimum of two major parties at any one time. If the GOP goes the way of the Whigs, it will probably be because a new party has inherited its membership and thus taken its place opposite the Democrats.

My money is on it being the Libertarian Party, as that seems to be where the GOP is ultimately headed.

219 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:00:53pm

Bagpipes from Baghdad:

220 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:01:49pm

re: #61 Simply Sarah

See, what I've never understood about the 7WTC thing is, uh. why? At least the whole airplanes into the towers deal has something that remotely passes as a motive (An insane and tortured line of pseudologic, to be sure, but I can at least see room to shoehorn in a conspiracy there). But why would anything underhanded happen with another building that almost no one not on the ground there cared about at the time (Or since)? I just can't see where you can even start down that path.

The conspiracy theory angle is that WTC7 is where the command & control HQ was set up. Several of Alex Jones' NEW WORLD ORDER had offices in WTC7. Lots of banks, the DOD, CIA, and IRS.

Also, a BBC reporter mistakenly reported that WTC7 had collapsed before it actually collapsed, which 'PROVES'... something, apparently.

Probably the best compendium of antidotes to 9/11 Truth bullshit is Mark Roberts' exhaustive site. It hasn't been updated in a while, but it's not like shocking new evidence is going to turn up at this point. And of course, Jones and his crew are convinced that Mark Roberts is a deep-cover operative with ties to the very blackest depths of The Conspiracy...

221 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:02:05pm

BBL

222 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:05:55pm

re: #216 Ojoe

Hundreds of pipers at once. Heaven, and no Fawell:

[Video]

My maternal grandfather was Scottish, although he was born in Nova Scotia. My grandmother gave me a list of last names in my grandpa's family - they were all Scottish.

I really don't like bagpipes, the sound scares me. My aboriginal wife, however, loves them.

223 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:08:09pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gingrich fears 'atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'

One appropriate response:
Image: AOKJQ.png

224 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:10:38pm

re: #222 b_sharp

My maternal grandfather was Scottish, although he was born in Nova Scotia. My grandmother gave me a list of last names in my grandpa's family - they were all Scottish.

I really don't like bagpipes, the sound scares me. My aboriginal wife, however, loves them.

My sister's cat loves them. A cat that dislikes being touched and avoids human contact....unless she hears the bagpipes or chanter, which instantly turns her into a hopeless cuddly mess. She looks like she's at least 80% Scottish Wildcat, which no doubt explains it.

225 BishopX  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:11:41pm

re: #187 Simply Sarah

226 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:13:43pm

re: #224 Jimmah

My sister's cat loves them. A cat that dislikes being touched and avoids human contact...unless she hears the bagpipes or chanter, which instantly turns her into a hopeless cuddly mess. She looks like she's at least 80% Scottish Wildcat, which no doubt explains it.

That would be a weird cat to have.

I'm German on my dad's side. They were probably afraid of the pipes.

I blame my genetics.

227 BishopX  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:14:20pm

Dammit by post got eated. Again:

re: #187 Simply Sarah

Granted. It would require the moderate to win most/all of the early contests and become seen as the overall winner at that point, probably.

Iowa is turning hard right, with most of the Iowa organizations focusing on social issues. The new head of the NH republican party is a RINO hunter, although it's unclear what that is going to do to the primaries. Nevada is just flat out insane (see Sharron Angle), and South Carolina may not be that much better. My hope at present rest on the sanity of the NH and SC voters, although I expect to be disappointed.

228 Winny Spencer  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:16:40pm

Well, I for one am looking forward to the primary debates. What a riot that should turn out to be.

229 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:16:44pm

re: #222 b_sharp

My maternal grandfather was Scottish, although he was born in Nova Scotia. My grandmother gave me a list of last names in my grandpa's family - they were all Scottish.

I really don't like bagpipes, the sound scares me. My aboriginal wife, however, loves them.

I love bagpipes.

That's one of those things, it seems, people either really really like, or they really really don't like. Not much in-between.

230 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:17:53pm

I don't mind bagpipes, if it's one guy wearing a kilt playing all alone on a beach at sunset. And I'm listening from about 100 yards away.

231 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:18:59pm

re: #228 Winny Spencer

Well, I for one am looking forward to the primary debates. What a riot that should turn out to be.

Maybe we can get the Marine Corps band to play Yakety Sax for them.

232 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:20:05pm

re: #224 Jimmah

My sister's cat loves them. A cat that dislikes being touched and avoids human contact...unless she hears the bagpipes or chanter, which instantly turns her into a hopeless cuddly mess. She looks like she's at least 80% Scottish Wildcat, which no doubt explains it.

All of my animals are terrified of reed instruments - I used to have a practice reed for bagpipes and they'd scramble if thy saw me with it. They also hate harmonicas, and it was a happy day here among my animals when I gave away the saxophone.

233 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:21:33pm

"If you think I'm sexy" with bagpipes

234 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:22:21pm

re: #233 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If you think I'm sexy" with bagpipes

[Video]

Ha! Love that movie. ;)

235 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:23:39pm

re: #232 makeitstop

All of my animals are terrified of reed instruments - I used to have a practice reed for bagpipes and they'd scramble if thy saw me with it.

Heh. It seems this love them/hate them bagpipe schism runs through the whole animal kingdom.

236 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:23:46pm

re: #230 Charles

I don't mind bagpipes, if it's one guy wearing a kilt playing all alone on a beach at sunset. And I'm listening from about 100 yards away.

Now that might sound like an in-between.
But it looks more like a firm "don't really like" vote to me.

237 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:24:11pm

re: #232 makeitstop

All of my animals are terrified of reed instruments - I used to have a practice reed for bagpipes and they'd scramble if thy saw me with it. They also hate harmonicas, and it was a happy day here among my animals when I gave away the saxophone.

My cats hate it when I play the vacuum cleaner.

238 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:25:22pm

re: #230 Charles

I feel the same way about wind chimes.

239 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:25:45pm

Goodnight from all here at Jimmah-ice acres :)

240 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:25:57pm

re: #235 Jimmah

The cat scurries away when I practice, true. (full war pipe set).

OT

More funky reactor news from Japan.

241 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:26:36pm

I remember at one time there was speculation that the bagpipes were invented to terrorize the enemy.

They were probably the very first WMDs (Weapons of Mass Defections)

242 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:26:45pm

Alex Jones Greatest Hits, vol. 937

AJ and pals in NYC, 2006. They enter a buffet restaurant, and at 1:40 in the video Jones approaches a group of soldiers at a table and begins harassing them. The soldiers leave the restaurant, with Jones and two cameramen on their heels. Jones follows them down the street while lecturing them about WTC building 7 being “pulled” and “thermite” being found on steel at Ground Zero.

243 zora  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:26:46pm

re: #229 reine.de.tout

me too. i have a neighbor who plays and i enjoy sitting on my deck listening to him practice.

244 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:27:12pm

re: #241 b_sharp

I remember at one time there was speculation that the bagpipes were invented to terrorize the enemy.

They were probably the very first WMDs (Weapons of Mass Defections)

Bagpipes, and accordions too?

245 The Left  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:28:50pm

re: #241 b_sharp

I remember at one time there was speculation that the bagpipes were invented to terrorize the enemy.

They were probably the very first WMDs (Weapons of Mass Defections)

Defecation?

Had to log back in just to upding this. Both points!

Nite folks.

246 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:29:04pm

re: #241 b_sharp

I remember at one time there was speculation that the bagpipes were invented to terrorize the enemy.

I've heard that too. & that if you could make enough noise with them before the other clan actually saw you, they'd give up and not attack, maybe.

Thus a survival selection for Very Loud.

247 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:29:45pm

And here we go again...

Gingrich: U.S. run by “anti-Jewish” elite

"Until you replace this president and until you have the Congress and the new president replace large parts of our bureaucracies, we’re going to continue to be dominated by a secular, anti-Christian and anti-Jewish elite, which is seeking to impose on us rules that make zero sense," Gingrich said, referring to a number of disparate cases in which federal, state and local governments and courts have addressed Muslim sensibilities.

248 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:32:55pm

re: #245 iceweasel

'Night.

249 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:33:23pm

re: #245 iceweasel

Defecation?

Had to log back in just to upding this. Both points!

Nite folks.

Yours is funnier.

250 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:33:35pm

re: #136 Ojoe

Brings to mnd Marley's ghost in A Christmas Carol.

LOL

Speaking of which more people (especially today's "conservative" wingnuts) need to pay heed to, year-round:

Jacob Marley: In life, my spirit never rose beyond the limits of our money-changing holes! Now I am doomed to wander without rest or peace, incessant torture and remorse!
Ebenezer: But it was only that you were a good man of business, Jacob!
Jacob Marley: BUSINESS? Mankind was my business! Their common welfare was my business! And it is at this time of the rolling year that I suffer most!
251 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:35:36pm

re: #247 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And here we go again...

Gingrich: U.S. run by “anti-Jewish” elite

...the hell??

252 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:36:09pm

re: #250 talon_262

That story is one of the best ever written.

The far right needs to read it, remedially.

253 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:36:46pm

re: #251 makeitstop

...the hell??

Gingrich has got to make up for lost time. His opponents have been riding the crazy train for months already and he needs to catch up.

254 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:37:08pm

GAAAA!

I have to get some work done.

BBL

255 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:37:36pm

re: #247 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And here we go again...

Gingrich: U.S. run by “anti-Jewish” elite

Wait, I thought the Jews ran everything?

///dripping

256 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:38:20pm

re: #252 Ojoe

They'll just enlist the fine folks at Conservapedia to re-write it and purge it of it's librul propaganda.
/

257 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:38:27pm

re: #255 talon_262

Wait, I thought the Jews ran everything?

///dripping

Now that you've typed that, we have you on record.

258 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:39:01pm

re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now that you've typed that, we have you on record.

Aww hell, you've got me ;-P

259 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:39:47pm

re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now that you've typed that, we have you on record.

Time for a little blackmail.

260 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:40:34pm

re: #256 Slumbering Behemoth

They'll just enlist the fine folks at Conservapedia to re-write it and purge it of it's librul propaganda.
/

Andrew (and Phyllis) Schafly can just go take a slow boat to China for all I care...

261 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:43:07pm

re: #259 b_sharp

Time for a little blackmail.

I prefer to think of it as coercively requesting a favor.

262 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:43:45pm

My drive home from work this afternoon was Teh Suck. What used to take 15 minutes took 45 minutes.

263 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:44:01pm

Drudge, Who automatically links to any article that mentions him, doesn't seem interested in the article about how he's helping Alex Jones.

264 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:46:55pm

What a lunatic. Kinda OT but when I was at Borders after I had lunch with my Dad today, I was looking in the biography section and saw a biography of Joe McCarthy called blacklisted from history and in big letters on the cover was a quote from Ann Coulter proclaiming "This is the best book since the Bible." Had to laugh because of that and the irony of a McCarthy apologist complaining about "blacklisting."

265 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:48:00pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Drudge, Who automatically links to any article that mentions him, doesn't seem interested in the article about how he's helping Alex Jones.

Matt and Alex....
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

266 avanti  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:52:13pm

Quote without comment:

"Donald Trump, who has been making television appearances calling for President Barack Obama to release his official birth documents, released his birth certificate exclusively to Newsmax on Monday."

267 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:54:17pm

re: #266 avanti

Newsmax huh. Now that is appropriate.

268 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:55:30pm

re: #266 avanti

Quote without comment:

"Donald Trump, who has been making television appearances calling for President Barack Obama to release his official birth documents, released his birth certificate exclusively to Newsmax on Monday."

Birthers will never be satisfied by anything President Obama has and would put out there if it refutes their "position" that he is a Sekrit Kenyan Muslim Usurper.

The whole lot of them, Trump included, should be in little rubber room with nice people in white coats tending to them...

269 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:55:48pm

if BO is not a US citizen, nobody will ever know....he's POTUS now and that's all that counts...the controversy is a pipe dream that will never resolved in some minds...move on

270 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:56:54pm

re: #266 avanti

Quote without comment:

"Donald Trump, who has been making television appearances calling for President Barack Obama to release his official birth documents, released his birth certificate exclusively to Newsmax on Monday."

Heh, guy is desperate for wingnut love.

271 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:57:08pm

re: #269 albusteve

Obama is a US citizen. It's really not difficult to figure that out.

272 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:57:14pm

re: #267 Naso Tang

Newsmax huh. Now that is appropriate.

Indeed.

"NewsMax: News for insane wingnuts, by insane wingnuts!"

273 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:57:22pm

re: #268 talon_262


The whole lot of them, Trump included, should be in little rubber room with nice people in white coats tending to them...

Actually, Trump and his kind are the people in the white coats tending to the rest of them.

274 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:57:53pm

It's beginning to look like the GOP primary is going to turn into a Newt vs. Trump Texas Cage Match of Crazy.

275 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:58:09pm

re: #273 Naso Tang

Actually, Trump and his kind are the people in the white coats tending to the rest of them.

Inmates running the asylum, so to speak...

*sigh*

276 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 2:58:30pm

re: #274 makeitstop

It's beginning to look like the GOP primary is going to turn into a Newt vs. Trump Texas Cage Match of Crazy.

More like Thunderdome...

277 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:00:38pm
278 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:01:12pm

re: #276 talon_262

More like Thunderdome...

Can't we just get beyond Thunderdome?

279 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:01:36pm

re: #278 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can't we just get beyond Thunderdome?

Toast anyone?

280 BishopX  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02:16pm

re: #279 Naso Tang

Toasterdome?

281 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02:46pm

re: #278 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can't we just get beyond Thunderdome?

Just walk away...

282 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02:59pm

re: #279 Naso Tang

'To absent friends.'

283 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:03:22pm

re: #271 Obdicut

Obama is a US citizen. It's really not difficult to figure that out.

appears to be....frankly I don't give a shit if he's a Martian

284 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:04:27pm

re: #269 albusteve

if BO is not a US citizen, nobody will ever know...he's POTUS now and that's all that counts...the controversy is a pipe dream that will never resolved in some minds...move on

Any way one cuts it, President Obama is a citizen of the United States, full stop. If he was born in Hawaii (as the public record shows), he's a citizen. If he was really born in Kenya (or anywhere else outside the US), he's still a citizen because his mother was a citizen, no matter what country his dad was from.

The way the Birthers keep nagging about this non-issue shows how unhinged and desperate they are to get a "gotcha" on Obama...fuck them.

285 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:04:56pm

re: #283 albusteve

appears to be...frankly I don't give a shit if he's a Martian

Barak Valentine Smith

286 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:05:43pm

re: #285 albusteve

Barak Valentine Smith

who will grok with me?

287 darthstar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:07:10pm

re: #286 albusteve

who will grok with me?

I grok what you're saying...

288 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:07:49pm

re: #283 albusteve

appears to be...frankly I don't give a shit if he's a Martian

That'd be another first...America's first extraterrestrial President.

Birthers' heads would definitely explode over that one ;-P

289 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:07:53pm

re: #286 albusteve

who will grok with me?

Only strangers who don't know you.

290 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:08:07pm

re: #287 darthstar

I grok what you're saying...

my IQ breaks the meter and I can hold my breath indefinitely

291 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:09:20pm

re: #289 Naso Tang

Only strangers who don't know you.

my flock will assemble by natural holy rollering

292 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:09:44pm

re: #288 talon_262

That'd be another first...America's first extraterrestrial President.

Birthers' heads would definitely explode over that one ;-P

Heh then they'd be earthers not birthers. It would be funny if we dicover and interact with life on other planets or whatever, that the CTers got convinced that a presidential candidate and president tehy didn't like was really from that planet.

293 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:11:02pm

re: #288 talon_262

That'd be another first...America's first extraterrestrial President.

Birthers' heads would definitely explode over that one ;-P

Bachmann (R-Mars) is trying to land that title.

294 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:11:32pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trump's certificate not official copy

So he's complaining about Obama's legal short-form certificate, and then he produces his own and it's not even a legal document like Obama's is? Hahaha. Classic.

295 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:12:38pm

Stranger In a Strange Land should be a movie....how has that terrific story been passed up by Hollyweird?

296 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:12:52pm

re: #266 avanti

Quote without comment:

"Donald Trump, who has been making television appearances calling for President Barack Obama to release his official birth documents, released his birth certificate exclusively to Newsmax on Monday."

Be still my fluttering heart.

Can you say grandstanding?

I knew you could.

297 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:13:56pm

re: #295 albusteve

Stranger In a Strange Land should be a movie...how has that terrific story been passed up by Hollyweird?

It is odd that nobody's tried to make that into a movie. Maybe it's one of those things that doesn't translate well into film.

298 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:13:58pm

How can we be sure Trump's birth certificate is real if we can't even tell whether his hair is real? /

299 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:14:10pm

re: #266 avanti

Quote without comment:

"Donald Trump, who has been making television appearances calling for President Barack Obama to release his official birth documents, released his birth certificate exclusively to Newsmax on Monday."

Heh, now I'm having flashbacks to '04 and Kerry showing his Navy records to a select handful of reporters, with certain portions blacked out.

300 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:14:16pm

re: #283 albusteve

appears to be...frankly I don't give a shit if he's a Martian

Like Bachmann?

301 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:14:31pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout

It is odd that nobody's tried to make that into a movie. Maybe it's one of those things that doesn't translate well into film.

too heady for the drooling masses

302 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:15:20pm

re: #301 albusteve

too heady for the drooling masses

Meh. Add some explosions, some CGI, a car chase or two, it'll be fine.

303 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:15:32pm

re: #295 albusteve

Stranger In a Strange Land should be a movie...how has that terrific story been passed up by Hollyweird?

They're a bit busy making sequels, prequels, remakes, and "End of Days" films.

304 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:15:36pm

I'm ashamed to admit that I have not read it. I should get on that.

305 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:15:40pm

re: #295 albusteve

Stranger In a Strange Land should be a movie...how has that terrific story been passed up by Hollyweird?

Too religious

306 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:15:49pm

re: #295 albusteve

Stranger In a Strange Land should be a movie...how has that terrific story been passed up by Hollyweird?

To much sex, too much religion, not enough violence.

307 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:15:51pm

re: #290 albusteve

my IQ breaks the meter and I can hold my breath indefinitely

They ate Mike at the end.

308 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:16:10pm

re: #299 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heh, now I'm having flashbacks to '04 and Kerry showing his Navy records to a select handful of reporters, with certain portions blacked out.

and got his ass Swiftboated....talk about the election Blunder of the Century

309 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:16:18pm

re: #298 makeitstop

How can we be sure Trump's birth certificate is real if we can't even tell whether his hair is real? /

The hair is the alien; it's driving.

310 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:16:59pm

re: #308 albusteve

and got his ass Swiftboated...talk about the election Blunder of the Century

I'm still amazed that they managed to turn his greatest strength into a weakness, politically.

311 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:17:08pm

Flashback to 2008: Obama 'Birth Certificate' Links Not Welcome.

Hey, I tried. I really did. They just wanted to be crazy.

312 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:17:46pm

re: #307 b_sharp

They ate Mike at the end.

the ultimate expression of appreciation

313 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:17:47pm

re: #311 Charles

Flashback to 2008: Obama 'Birth Certificate' Links Not Welcome.

Hey, I tried. I really did. They just wanted to be crazy.

Can we get a heat map of Trump's certificate though?

314 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:19:06pm

re: #310 Fozzie Bear

I'm still amazed that they managed to turn his greatest strength into a weakness, politically.

Kerry is a lightweight, he rode on the back of Ted Kennedy....what a role model eh?

315 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:19:39pm

A subtle headline from Fox Nation (who I added to our left column RSS feeds because they're so whacked out):

Obama Faces Massive Muslim Problem

316 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:19:58pm

re: #313 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'd like to see the death certificate for the ferret corpse Trump wears on his head.

317 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:21:04pm

re: #315 Charles

A subtle headline from Fox Nation (who I added to our left column RSS feeds because they're so whacked out):

Obama Faces Massive Muslim Problem

Fox Nation: Keeping The Far Right Frothing, 24/7.

318 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:21:36pm

re: #316 Fozzie Bear

I'd like to see the death certificate for the ferret corpse Trump wears on his head.

maybe it's not dead yet?....look close and you can see it twitch once in a while

319 Kragar  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:22:32pm

re: #316 Fozzie Bear

I'd like to see the death certificate for the ferret corpse Trump wears on his head.

I think we're slowly being infiltrated by a highly evolved form of fungus who appears to us as a bad hairpiece.

320 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:22:55pm

re: #305 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Too religious

I don't think so. Hollywood retells biblical stories all the time and makes up new ones too. Almighty Bruce, Steve Carrell did a movie about being Noah and building an ark. Jacob's Ladder was a version of Job, etc.

321 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:22:59pm

re: #317 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Fox Nation: Keeping The Far Right Frothing, 24/7.

what the fuck is his "Muslim problem"?...any different than anybody else's problem?...tripe

322 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:24:00pm

re: #316 Fozzie Bear

I'd like to see the death certificate for the ferret corpse Trump wears on his head.

Sure it's a ferret? Looks more like a tribble to me.

323 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:25:07pm

Donald Trump for President
AmIdol politics gone wild

324 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:25:42pm

re: #321 albusteve

what the fuck is his "Muslim problem"?...any different than anybody else's problem?...tripe

Remember that global opinion that didn't matter, was even cited as "proof" that Obama was not a good choice in '08? Yeah, now it matters again, because it's supposed to be turning against him.

325 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:26:03pm

re: #315 Charles

Obama's decision to enter Libya in hopes of preventing a slaughter at the hands of Muammar al-Qaddafi could, despite its best intentions, accelerate a public-opinion shift in some quarters of the world away from the U.S. president.


That's the first time I've seen a concern at Fox News about foreign public opinion.

326 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:26:29pm

re: #319 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think we're slowly being infiltrated by a highly evolved form of fungus who appears to us as a bad hairpiece.

Oh hell. Could it mean that he, or the whole republican party, is infected by cordyceps fungus? Is he just trying to get to the top of the political tree so he can spread its spores? Are the tea baggers just fungus zombies? Would we be able to tell the difference?

327 caoimhe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:26:52pm

Uh, about Drudge's Christmas present links...

Jones says that it’s now “intensifying how much he links to us and promotes us,” recalling how Drudge, this past Christmas, made every link on the site green for the holidays—except links to Infowars, which Drudge published in red. “It was like a Christmas present,” says Jones.


See, the thing is, Drudge made every link green -- every unvisited link. Visited links turned red. Jones had visited every story on his own site, but hadn't visited the other links Drudge had provided.

Here's a contemporaneous account in a 27 December 2010 entry on a random blog, describing this:

Drudge Report has all green links, and they turn red when you click them. How festive.

So anyway.

328 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:26:57pm

International appeal is only newsworthy when it wanes, apparently.

329 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:28:31pm

re: #324 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Remember that global opinion that didn't matter, was even cited as "proof" that Obama was not a good choice in '08? Yeah, now it matters again, because it's supposed to be turning against him.

if our president pisses off Muslims then they must have an agenda that is suspect...BO has done the right thing, and I could care less what Muslims think otherwise

330 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:28:32pm

GOP appears poised to take on entitlements

GOP Poised To Firmly Grab Third Rail, Electrocute Party

pleas from mutant party for mercy killing went unheeded, suicide only option

331 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:30:27pm

I remain convinced that that there is nothing Obama can do to satisfy these people. He could do all that they want him to do and then they'd blame him if things went wrong even though he was following their ideas.They're whiners, the whole bloody lot of them. A bunch of children who think they are adults.

332 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:32:05pm

re: #330 engineer dog

GOP appears poised to take on entitlements

GOP Poised To Firmly Grab Third Rail, Electrocute Party

pleas from mutant party for mercy killing went unheeded, suicide only option

There's nothing like taking millions of indigent elderly people off public assistance programs to turn out lots of voters... to vote against the GOP.

333 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:32:41pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

I remain convinced that that there is nothing Obama can do to satisfy these people. He could do all that they want him to do and then they'd blame him if things went wrong even though he was following their ideas.They're whiners, the whole bloody lot of them. A bunch of children who think they are adults.

so how do 'they' get so much attention?...is this some sort of refined babysitter watchdog forum?

334 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:32:42pm

re: #327 caoimhe

Uh, about Drudge's Christmas present links...


See, the thing is, Drudge made every link green -- every unvisited link. Visited links turned red. Jones had visited every story on his own site, but hadn't visited the other links Drudge had provided.

Here's a contemporaneous account in a 27 December 2010 entry on a random blog, describing this:

So anyway.

I noticed that too. That tells me that Alex Jones only visits his own side and doesn't read any other blogs or news sites.

335 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:33:27pm

re: #333 albusteve

so how do 'they' get so much attention?...is this some sort of refined babysitter watchdog forum?

"They" just won a crapload of seats in a midterm election. That's where the attention comes from, and it is warranted.

336 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:35:57pm

re: #335 Fozzie Bear

"They" just won a crapload of seats in a midterm election. That's where the attention comes from, and it is warranted.

Not to mention their presence on the state level as well. My state AG prefers serving the fringe nutcases to actually serving the commonwealth of Virginia.

337 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:36:35pm

re: #335 Fozzie Bear

"They" just won a crapload of seats in a midterm election. That's where the attention comes from, and it is warranted.

well, why in the world did that happen?....donks not too popular?

338 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:37:00pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

I remain convinced that that there is nothing Obama can do to satisfy these people. He could do all that they want him to do and then they'd blame him if things went wrong even though he was following their ideas.They're whiners, the whole bloody lot of them. A bunch of children who think they are adults.

Which is what makes all their boasts that "the adults are back in charge" so hilarious. They're adults that, when they don't get their way, throw a tantrum. And when they do get their way, they bitch that the reason it didn't work like they thought it would is because it wasn't done the "right way."

339 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:38:51pm

re: #337 albusteve

well, why in the world did that happen?...donks not too popular?

Apparently not. What should alarm people is the fact that the DNC of today is more conservative than the GOP of 30 years ago, and they are STILL too liberal for an apparent majority of Americans.

340 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:39:17pm

re: #321 albusteve

I saw the story, which states that supposedly Obama's lost popularity in the Muslim World over the attack. However, talking to Arabs here, I get the feeling that this may only be true in areas from Iran eastwards, or not at all.

341 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:39:52pm

I find the strangest things......
Image: vanned.jpg

This is why I don't google my nic much anymore.

342 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:41:28pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trump's certificate not official copy

Kwa, kwa.

343 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:41:28pm

re: #341 Killgore Trout

lolwut

344 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:41:37pm

I am noticing that a lot of this suspicion is coming from Pakistan, which seems to be more conspiracy heavy than Saudi Arabia, having talked to a few Pakistanis.

345 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:42:06pm

re: #341 Killgore Trout

I find the strangest things...
Image: vanned.jpg

This is why I don't google my nic much anymore.

I, uh...huh?

346 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:42:09pm

re: #340 ProLifeLiberal

And by here, I mean the United States.

347 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:42:57pm

re: #342 Gus 802

We need to DEMAND his long form, despite the fact that such a thing never existed. I want to see Trump say it. I want him to have to say "there's no fucking thing as a long form birth certificate". That would seriously make my year.

348 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:43:03pm

re: #343 Fozzie Bear

lolwut

The folks at Anonymous are annoyed with me. It's probably just BB still obsessing.

349 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:43:41pm

re: #348 Killgore Trout

The folks at Anonymous are annoyed with me. It's probably just BB still obsessing.

I'm not sure. It would appear that whoever made that is mocking anon every bit as much as you.

350 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:44:51pm

re: #349 Fozzie Bear

Then again, anon has a long history of making fun of itself, so who knows.

351 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:45:41pm

re: #339 Fozzie Bear

Apparently not. What should alarm people is the fact that the DNC of today is more conservative than the GOP of 30 years ago, and they are STILL too liberal for an apparent majority of Americans.

couple of years ago, me and KT were talking and I came to the conclusion that if BO were elected all hell would break loose....it was becoming obvious that the right was hell bent down a dark path even then...none of this surprises me, except the degree and speed that it's gone down....all the thousands of posts that claim shock and dismay bore me....the writing was on the wall, people despise BO for whatever reasons

352 avanti  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:46:05pm

re: #295 albusteve

Stranger In a Strange Land should be a movie...how has that terrific story been passed up by Hollyweird?

They don't grok it.

353 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:47:14pm

re: #350 Fozzie Bear

Then again, anon has a long history of making fun of itself, so who knows.

It's hard to tell. Here's another one....
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]
I don't think that's from BB because he misspelled his name (and mine). I can't tell who's mocking whom.

354 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:47:45pm

re: #348 Killgore Trout

The folks at Anonymous are annoyed with me. It's probably just BB still obsessing.

It does have that self-absorbed juvenile touch.

355 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:47:54pm

re: #351 albusteve

He's half black, he's a moderate, he's half white, liberals love him, even liberals hate him, people in other countries love him, people in other countries hate him. Take your pick.

They did the same shit to Clinton, albeit less intensely so. But, we have the internet now in every home. Clinton didn't have to deal with that.

356 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:48:27pm

re: #327 caoimhe

Uh, about Drudge's Christmas present links...

See, the thing is, Drudge made every link green -- every unvisited link. Visited links turned red. Jones had visited every story on his own site, but hadn't visited the other links Drudge had provided.

Here's a contemporaneous account in a 27 December 2010 entry on a random blog, describing this:

So anyway.

Oh yeah, I remember that. Here's what said at the time...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

357 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:48:28pm

re: #353 Killgore Trout

It's hard to tell. Here's another one...
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]
I don't think that's from BB because he misspelled his name (and mine). I can't tell who's mocking whom.

It gives the impression of a third party making fun of the entire thing.

358 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:48:51pm

re: #353 Killgore Trout

It's hard to tell. Here's another one...
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]
I don't think that's from BB because he misspelled his name (and mine). I can't tell who's mocking whom.

From that:

Now known as The Legion, Kilgore Trout has distanced himself and his followers from any actions made by the less mature Anonymous

You have followers?
I'm impressed.

359 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:49:24pm

re: #353 Killgore Trout

It's hard to tell. Here's another one...
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]
I don't think that's from BB because he misspelled his name (and mine). I can't tell who's mocking whom.

Ousts Barrett Brown? What kind of drugs are these people on?

360 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:50:15pm

re: #358 reine.de.tout

From that:

You have followers?
I'm impressed.

Heh. I'm impressive!

361 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:50:25pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Ousts Barrett Brown? What kind of drugs are these people on?

He "ousts" BB from . . . something . . . AND he has followers!

362 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:50:38pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Ousts Barrett Brown? What kind of drugs are these people on?

Oust him from what? His computer chair?

People take this shit waaaay too seriously.

363 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:50:50pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Ousts Barrett Brown? What kind of drugs are these people on?

And why aren't they sharing with the rest of the class?

364 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:51:27pm

re: #361 reine.de.tout

He "ousts" BB from . . . something . . . AND he has followers!

Am I still a "ring leader"?

365 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:52:02pm

re: #340 ProLifeLiberal

I saw the story, which states that supposedly Obama's lost popularity in the Muslim World over the attack. However, talking to Arabs here, I get the feeling that this may only be true in areas from Iran eastwards, or not at all.

Let's face it; the Muslim world is a fickle friend to have, and that applies between themselves as much as with the USA.

366 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:52:36pm

re: #361 reine.de.tout

He "ousts" BB from . . . something . . . AND he has followers!

AND let me not forget the P.H.D.

There's just so much! Killgore is all things to all people. Hard to keep up with.

367 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:53:02pm

re: #364 Gus 802

Am I still a "ring leader"?

Yes, yes dear, if it's important to you.
*snicker*

368 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:53:11pm

re: #365 Naso Tang

Let's face it; the Muslim world is a fickle friend to have, and that applies between themselves as much as with the USA.

when your own loving father beheads you, that's the epitome of fickle

369 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:53:24pm

Methinks they're talking about another Kilgore Trout -- also notice the single "L".

370 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:53:38pm

re: #366 reine.de.tout

AND let me not forget the P.H.D.

There's just so much! Killgore is all things to all people. Hard to keep up with.

Perhaps he's the basis of a new religion. Quickly, let's commercialize it, we can advertise it as a cheaper alternative to Scientology.

371 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:54:47pm

re: #369 Gus 802

Valentine Man Caught with Too Many Trout

372 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:54:55pm

re: #370 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Perhaps he's the basis of a new religion. Quickly, let's commercialize it, we can advertise it as a cheaper alternative to Scientology.

TROUTIST!

373 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:55:04pm

re: #369 Gus 802

Methinks they're talking about another Kilgore Trout -- also notice the single "L".

There's plenty of Vonnegut fans out there.

374 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:55:11pm

re: #368 albusteve

when your own loving father beheads you, that's the epitome of fickle

Depends on who he does it for.

375 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:56:02pm
376 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:56:23pm

re: #371 jaunte

Valentine Man Caught with Too Many Trout

trout in NE is unnatural and blasphemous...off with his pole!

377 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:56:49pm

re: #375 Gus 802

Barrett Brown when he hits 50.

Worst. Post. Ever.

/

378 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:58:22pm

re: #377 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Worst. Post. Ever.

/

When I watch Barrett Brown smoke a cigarette it somehow reminds me of a little girl trying on her mother's shoes.

/

379 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:58:58pm

re: #369 Gus 802

Methinks they're talking about another Kilgore Trout -- also notice the single "L".

They also misspelled Barrett (with only one t).

380 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:59:18pm

Now why can't our government do something like this...

The European Commission on Monday unveiled a "single European transport area" aimed at enforcing "a profound shift in transport patterns for passengers" by 2050.

The plan also envisages an end to cheap holiday flights from Britain to southern Europe with a target that over 50 per cent of all journeys above 186 miles should be by rail.

Top of the EU's list to cut climate change emissions is a target of "zero" for the number of petrol and diesel-driven cars and lorries in the EU's future cities.

Siim Kallas, the EU transport commission, insisted that Brussels directives and new taxation of fuel would be used to force people out of their cars and onto "alternative" means of transport.

"That means no more conventionally fuelled cars in our city centres," he said. "Action will follow, legislation, real action to change behaviour."

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

381 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:59:27pm

re: #379 Killgore Trout

They also misspelled Barrett (with only one t).

Yep. It's still weird though. They're all rather strange folks.

382 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:00:32pm

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Now why can't our government do something like this...

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

In big urban centers, cars honestly just don't make as much sense as a robust public transportation system, imo.

383 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:01:12pm

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Are you kidding? Interfere with people's right to drive automobiles over every square inch of surface in America? It'd be political suicide.

384 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:02:12pm

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Now why can't our government do something like this...

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

It's not allowed according to the Constertution!

/

385 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:02:23pm

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Now why can't our government do something like this...

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Because the airlines and auto manufacturers have too much influence (read: money) invested in Congress to allow rail to ever be more than a niche market. Witness of the bad-mouthing of high-speed rail in recent months, with much scoffing at the idea that people would ride a train when they can just drive.

386 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:03:08pm

re: #383 prononymous

Are you kidding? Interfere with people's right to drive automobiles over every square inch of surface in America? It'd be political suicide.

When (public transportation == political suicide), I think there is ample evidence that the public has gone full retard.

387 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:03:52pm

re: #385 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Keep Big Train's hands off my car!!!

388 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:04:26pm

re: #386 Fozzie Bear

When (public transportation == political suicide), I think there is ample evidence that the public has gone full retard.

Especially when the same people who badmouth public transit then turn around and bitch about the price of gas.

389 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:05:05pm

re: #383 prononymous

Are you kidding? Interfere with people's right to drive automobiles over every square inch of surface in America? It'd be political suicide.

driving car in America is far more than getting from here to there...it's another expression of independence of the spirit...we will always have zillions of people that will never give up driving, me included

390 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:05:47pm

re: #389 albusteve

driving car in America is far more than getting from here to there...it's another expression of independence of the spirit...we will always have zillions of people that will never give up driving, me included

Some day, you will have to. And it just won't be that bad.

391 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:05:47pm

re: #388 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Especially when the same people who badmouth public transit then turn around and bitch about the price of gas.

What do you expect from a bunch of jackasses? Honestly, I am very reeptive to increased public transit. As someone who does not drive and wants to work in the city after I get my BA, it's a very appealing issue ot me.

392 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:06:00pm

re: #386 Fozzie Bear

When (public transportation == political suicide), I think there is ample evidence that the public has gone full retard.

There was an article a long while back where an officer ran over some tourist sunbathers on the beach in Florida, IIRC. I actually got in an argument with someone that thought it was the tourist's fault for laying on the beach.

393 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:06:20pm

Alex Jones: "Fox News Is An Alex Jones Wannabe"

Pushes Fox To Identify Andrew Napolitano And G. Edward Griffin As 9-11 Truthers
394 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:06:47pm

Environmentalism is next to Communism! It's like a watermelon! Green on the outside yet red on the inside!

Beware!!11ty

//

395 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:06:53pm

re: #393 Killgore Trout

Alex Jones: "Fox News Is An Alex Jones Wannabe"

For once, Jones speaks the absolute truth.

396 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:07:41pm

re: #390 Fozzie Bear

Some day, you will have to. And it just won't be that bad.

I will, but it won't be imposed on me by some nanny fuck up in DC...this is still New Mexico

397 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:08:06pm

Expected reaction.

398 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:08:14pm

re: #392 prononymous

There was an article a long while back where an officer ran over some tourist sunbathers on the beach in Florida, IIRC. I actually got in an argument with someone that thought it was the tourist's fault for laying on the beach.

Next thing you know, people will insist on swimming in the water and breathing the air at the beach. Greedy bastards.

399 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:08:20pm

re: #389 albusteve

driving car in America is far more than getting from here to there...it's another expression of independence of the spirit...we will always have zillions of people that will never give up driving, me included

I love automobiles. If I wasn't going to sell my '69 Olds with a 455, I'd be rebuilding it. I think I'll work on an electric (or superbike motor) kit car instead.

But let's be realistic. Exactly what about driving an automobile is expressing individuality?

400 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:08:36pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Expected reaction.

Yes. Thank for studying us oh great one.

401 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:09:00pm

re: #396 albusteve

I will, but it won't be imposed on me by some nanny fuck up in DC...this is still New Mexico

Well, that's OK. I'm sure Mexico Mexico would love to have you back.
/

402 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:09:12pm

re: #400 Gus 802

Yes. Thank for studying us oh great one.

Under a microscope.

403 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:09:46pm

I understand people like driving. What I don't understand is the hostility to increased public transit. That's all. It's a pain in the ass finding good parking in DC and expensive too. IT may be a little longer but it is a lot preferable to take the train to DC as opposed to driving in to it from the suburbs.

405 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:10:02pm

re: #400 Gus 802

Yes. Thank for studying us oh great one.

As easy as pushing the Staples button.

406 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:11:00pm

re: #399 prononymous

I love automobiles. If I wasn't going to sell my '69 Olds with a 455, I'd be rebuilding it. I think I'll work on an electric (or superbike motor) kit car instead.

But let's be realistic. Exactly what about driving an automobile is expressing individuality?

I didn't say driving expresses individuality...I said driving expresses independence

407 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:11:19pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Expected reaction.

What I don't expect is an apology from you for claiming that I don't know much about religion or that I ever claimed as much.

408 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:11:45pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

I understand people like driving. What I don't understand is the hostility to increased public transit. That's all. It's a pain in the ass finding good parking in DC and expensive too. IT may be a little longer but it is a lot preferable to take the train to DC as opposed to driving in to it from the suburbs.

You don't understand? People love getting stuck in traffic. And getting lost. And taking the wrong turn and needing 15 minutes to get back on track. And having to deal with shitty drivers. And spending 20 minutes looking for somewhere to park. It's the heart of America!
/

409 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:12:01pm

re: #399 prononymous

I love automobiles. If I wasn't going to sell my '69 Olds with a 455, I'd be rebuilding it. I think I'll work on an electric (or superbike motor) kit car instead.

But let's be realistic. Exactly what about driving an automobile is expressing individuality?

This:

[Link: t0.gstatic.com...]

410 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:13:03pm

re: #406 albusteve

I didn't say driving expresses individuality...I said driving expresses independence

How would having a robust public transportation system lead to less independence? Frankly, with the bus schedules here i abq, it would ead to more independence for many people.

411 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:13:13pm

re: #407 prononymous

What I don't expect is an apology from you for claiming that I don't know much about religion or that I ever claimed as much.

Damn straight... smarter than I thought you were.

412 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:14:26pm

re: #408 Simply Sarah

You don't understand? People love getting stuck in traffic. And getting lost. And taking the wrong turn and needing 15 minutes to get back on track. And having to deal with shitty drivers. And spending 20 minutes looking for somewhere to park. It's the heart of America!
/

Yeah, nothing screams "independence" to me like sitting in a traffic snarl for an hour or more because some guy, 5 miles head, had accident while expressing his own "independence." Or the older drive who jumped out in front of me a few months back, his "independence" leading me to filing a claim with my insurance company.

How many thousands die every year expressing their "independence" while drink, while texting, by falling asleep, etc?

413 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:14:49pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Ousts Barrett Brown? What kind of drugs are these people on?

Heroin perhaps?

414 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:15:10pm

re: #411 Walter L. Newton

It's ok. You are the one that beclowned yourself with that incident. Retract or not, you are still left looking fairly stupid.

415 Lidane  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:16:02pm

re: #19 Fozzie Bear

Internet trolls dream of people this gullible. There is nothing funnier than people who don't get sarcasm to a troll, because you can mock them to their faces, and they just keep feeding you more reasons to mock them.

Seriously. 4chan wishes they could get people as dense as the right wing howler monkeys. They'd never run out of ways to make their heads explode.

This is hilarious. Fucking irony, how does it work?

416 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:16:18pm

I understand the independence part. But as I said, I will never understand the hostility to the idea of public transportation or increased. Hell, it will lower traffic and keep less idiots like yours truly off the roads heh.

417 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:16:35pm

re: #410 prononymous

How would having a robust public transportation system lead to less independence? Frankly, with the bus schedules here i abq, it would ead to more independence for many people.

wtf are you talking about?...I didn't imply that...you are too clever by half

418 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:16:57pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I understand the independence part. But as I said, I will never understand the hostility to the idea of public transportation or increased. Hell, it will lower traffic and keep less idiots like yours truly off the roads heh.

Because then they'd have to pay for the services they don't intend to use.

419 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:17:18pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I understand the independence part. But as I said, I will never understand the hostility to the idea of public transportation or increased. Hell, it will lower traffic and keep less idiots like yours truly off the roads heh.

Because it's like hostility to a lot of other such things: "It's 'my' tax dollars, and I don't want them spent on anybody else but me!"

420 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:17:35pm

re: #410 prononymous

How would having a robust public transportation system lead to less independence? Frankly, with the bus schedules here i abq, it would ead to more independence for many people.

In a decade or so, I'll not be able to drive safely. I'll have to move to a city with good public transportation. Venice, perhaps.

[Link: cadeimori.com...]

421 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:17:46pm

re: #414 prononymous

It's ok. You are the one that beclowned yourself with that incident. Retract or not, you are still left looking fairly stupid.

I know... I've had... let's see, 300 emails this morning about it... two were from the NYT... it's all over the blogosphere... amazing coverage. Huffo even asked me to do a guest blog post.

Insignificant.

422 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:17:55pm

re: #412 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, nothing screams "independence" to me like sitting in a traffic snarl for an hour or more because some guy, 5 miles head, had accident while expressing his own "independence." Or the older drive who jumped out in front of me a few months back, his "independence" leading me to filing a claim with my insurance company.

How many thousands die every year expressing their "independence" while drink, while texting, by falling asleep, etc?

why do you live like that then?...are you not capable of something better for yourself?....you make your own bed

423 Gus  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:18:03pm

re: #413 Slumbering Behemoth

Heroin perhaps?

Good lord. Where's his pipe and smoking jacket?

424 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:18:33pm

re: #337 albusteve

well, why in the world did that happen?...donks not too popular?

of course since we all have the power to read the minds of millions of voters, we know with certainty exactly why the election turned out the way it did

425 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:18:35pm

re: #417 albusteve

wtf are you talking about?...I didn't imply that...you are too clever by half

Then I must have misunderstood, please elaborate. What is independence of the spirit and why is it better served by automobiles than public transportation?

426 Simply Sarah  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:19:06pm

re: #420 Decatur Deb

In a decade or so, I'll not be able to drive safely. I'll have to move to a city with good public transportation. Venice, perhaps.

[Link: cadeimori.com...]

Heck. Venice is compact enough that you can mostly walk, assuming being fit enough to do so, of course. :P

427 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:19:11pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I understand the independence part. But as I said, I will never understand the hostility to the idea of public transportation or increased. Hell, it will lower traffic and keep less idiots like yours truly off the roads heh.

If you're an idiot on the road, then it's your responsibility to stay off the roads, or learn how to drive safely. Yep, that's the solution.

428 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:19:46pm

re: #421 Walter L. Newton

I know... I've had... let's see, 300 emails this morning about it... two were from the NYT... it's all over the blogosphere... amazing coverage. Huffo even asked me to do a guest blog post.

Insignificant.

I agree. You are insignificant. And I never claimed otherwise for myself.

429 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:20:03pm

re: #419 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Because it's like hostility to a lot of other such things: "It's 'my' tax dollars, and I don't want them spent on anybody else but me!"

YEah, it's the spoiled bratification of hte country. The government always spends money on things we don't like. The most ridiculous crap I saw about increased rail transit came from George Will who acted like increased trail proponents were Marxist snobs. It's about practicality for me. There are many people who use the trains around here to commute and by doing so they deal with less traffic as a result.

430 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:20:46pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

If you're an idiot on the road, then it's your responsibility to stay off the roads, or learn how to drive safely. Yep, that's the solution.

Well I was speaking jn jest. I don't drive. I use the buses or metro to get around.

431 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:20:49pm

re: #425 prononymous

Then I must have misunderstood, please elaborate. What is independence of the spirit and why is it better served by automobiles than public transportation?

I didn't say driving better served the public....you have serious comprehension deficits

432 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:21:17pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I understand the independence part. But as I said, I will never understand the hostility to the idea of public transportation or increased. Hell, it will lower traffic and keep less idiots like yours truly off the roads heh.

I'm not at all hostile towards the idea. I am in favor of it, in fact. Still, for some to expect folks to give up their cars completely is absurd.

That is, unless they put in a high speed rail that stops at my grandma's house, my disabled mother's house, and all the various doctors and medical facilities that I am constantly driving them to. ;)

433 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:21:18pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I understand the independence part. But as I said, I will never understand the hostility to the idea of public transportation or increased. Hell, it will lower traffic and keep less idiots like yours truly off the roads heh.

It seems more expensive, because most people don't understand how our system of automobile transportation is subsidized.

434 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:21:21pm

re: #429 HappyWarrior

YEah, it's the spoiled bratification of hte country. The government always spends money on things we don't like. The most ridiculous crap I saw about increased rail transit came from George Will who acted like increased trail proponents were Marxist snobs. It's about practicality for me. There are many people who use the trains around here to commute and by doing so they deal with less traffic as a result.

We have plenty of trails here in Jefferson Country. For a matter of fact, per capita, we have more open space and trails than any county in the US, from what I'm told by the country PR people.

435 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:21:42pm

re: #431 albusteve

I didn't say driving better served the public...you have serious comprehension deficits

I found that out last night.

436 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:22:01pm

re: #431 albusteve

I didn't say driving better served the public...you have serious comprehension deficits

Maybe you should handle your own deficit in this arena as well. Who is advocating completely banning automobiles? Nobody.

437 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:22:13pm

re: #423 Gus 802

Sold for junk, maybe?
/

438 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:22:41pm

re: #435 Walter L. Newton

I found that out last night.

yup, I was lurking

439 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:23:09pm

re: #413 Slumbering Behemoth

Heroin perhaps?

Bummer. I hope he makes it. It's a hell of an addiction.

440 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:23:23pm

re: #422 albusteve

why do you live like that then?...are you not capable of something better for yourself?...you make your own bed

Perhaps you could explain that a bit better.

441 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:23:27pm

re: #432 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not at all hostile towards the idea. I am in favor of it, in fact. Still, for some to expect folks to give up their cars completely is absurd.

That is, unless they put in a high speed rail that stops at my grandma's house, my disabled mother's house, and all the various doctors and medical facilities that I am constantly driving them to. ;)

Oh I agree with that. I just like the idea of more rails and public transit as an alternative. I think I know what Steve is talking about when he talks about the independence of driving. Although I am a non-driver, I understand that people love their cars and the feeling of self independence that many people have is when they're 16-17 years old when they get their first car. As I said, I like the an idea as an alternative not so much a replacement. An "in addition to" if you will.

442 BishopX  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:23:29pm

Obama speaking on Libya in about 8 min:

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

443 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:23:41pm

re: #436 prononymous

Maybe you should handle your own deficit in this arena as well. Who is advocating completely banning automobiles? Nobody.

you are not making any sense now at all

444 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:24:26pm

re: #442 BishopX

Obama speaking on Libya in about 8 min:

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

It's almost early enough to start drinking.

445 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:24:29pm

this is gonna be the best 2012 ever

446 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:24:36pm

re: #440 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Perhaps you could explain that a bit better.

I think you get the drift

447 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:24:48pm

re: #435 Walter L. Newton

I found that out last night.

re: #438 albusteve

yup, I was lurking

Get a clue. Walter was the one that couldn't catch a simple bible reference and then claimed I needed more religion classes. Heh.

448 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:24:49pm

I want to see Alex Jones crash the republican primaries

PLEASE PLEASE

449 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:25:48pm

re: #443 albusteve

you are not making any sense now at all

Do you have a point? Nobody is discussing banning automobiles. Your post was irrational.

450 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:26:30pm

re: #423 Gus 802

Good lord. Where's his pipe and smoking jacket?

From the caption on that pretentious prick's photo in that article:

Brown, in his 378-square-foot apartment. He demanded that this story mention he outgrew his Ayn Rand phase when he was 17. He said, “If you don’t put that in there, I will personally DDoS the f--- out of you.”

What a fucking douchebag asshole...

451 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:26:38pm

re: #432 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not at all hostile towards the idea. I am in favor of it, in fact. Still, for some to expect folks to give up their cars completely is absurd.

That is, unless they put in a high speed rail that stops at my grandma's house, my disabled mother's house, and all the various doctors and medical facilities that I am constantly driving them to. ;)

I wish I could pull up a Popular Science article I saw awhile back, detailing various suggestions for how to improve America's transportation system in order to maximize all the available methods of travel. One that I saw was that items like light/high-speed rail could have mini-motorpools nearby of Smartcar-sized electric vehicles that people could utilize to make trips from the station to their destination, then return to the pool on their way back home.

452 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:26:41pm

Image: easybutton.jpgre: #443 albusteve

you are not making any sense now at all

Image: easybutton.jpg

453 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:27:02pm

re: #449 prononymous

Do you have a point? Nobody is discussing banning automobiles. Your post was irrational.

LOL!

454 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:27:05pm

re: #439 Killgore Trout

Seriously. I make jokes, but that's not the sort of thing I would wish on someone. Even if I considered that someone to be an hilariously delusional douche-nozzle.

455 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:27:58pm

re: #446 albusteve

I think you get the drift

Oh, so you think I'm sitting on a small fortune and thus can choose to just move out to the fuckin' boonies, if and when I choose to? That I've instead decided to live in the most populous city in Virginia and thus like dealing with the traffic, the bad drivers, and construction on a daily basis?

456 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:29:33pm

re: #455 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh, so you think I'm sitting on a small fortune and thus can choose to just move out to the fuckin' boonies, if and when I choose to? That I've instead decided to live in the most populous city in Virginia and thus like dealing with the traffic, the bad drivers, and construction on a daily basis?

no, I didn't think that

457 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:29:34pm

re: #450 talon_262

And to clarify, if he's a heroin/opiod addict, I hope he gets and uses the help he needs. In that, I wish him no ill will; for everything else, he can get bent.

458 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:30:41pm

re: #456 albusteve

no, I didn't think that

Then please, explain what you meant, because obviously I misheard you.

459 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:30:50pm

re: #453 albusteve

LOL!

What is really funny is that you seem to have mistakenly conflated a ban on petroleum fueled automobiles within certain city areas with a ban on all automobiles. And you go an rant about those meanies taking away your cars. Waaaaah. lol.

460 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:33:18pm

re: #458 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Then please, explain what you meant, because obviously I misheard you.

your complaint about traffic with regard to public transport is whining...you have choices

461 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:34:52pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Herman Cain: No Muslims in my administration

"This is what happened in Europe."

Yes, Mr. Cain. This is what happened in Europe.

462 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:35:08pm

re: #459 prononymous

What is really funny is that you seem to have mistakenly conflated a ban on petroleum fueled automobiles within certain city areas with a ban on all automobiles. And you go an rant about those meanies taking away your cars. Waaah. lol.

show me where I said or implied that...and my passing comment was not a rant....you seem to be looking for something I'm not giving you...why don't you take your imagination and move on?

463 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:36:02pm

how do we know that the unrest in the middle east and north africa isn't the outcome of a secret obama administration policy?

464 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:36:48pm

re: #463 engineer dog

how do we know that the unrest in the middle east and north africa isn't the outcome of a secret obama administration policy?

we don't....it's hardly out of the realm of possibilities

465 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:36:59pm

re: #460 albusteve

your complaint about traffic with regard to public transport is whining...you have choices

My "complaint" was a joking response to your bit about driving being about "independence." My sincerest apologies that I forgot to put "/s" at the end.

466 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:38:33pm

re: #462 albusteve

show me where I said or implied that...and my passing comment was not a rant...you seem to be looking for something I'm not giving you...why don't you take your imagination and move on?

If you weren't talking about the proposed ban in europe then what does "zillions" of Americans not wanting to give up automobiles have anything to do with anything that was being discussed? Nobody here is discussing making people give up their automobiles.

467 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:38:47pm

re: #465 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

My "complaint" was a joking response to your bit about driving being about "independence." My sincerest apologies that I forgot to put "/s" at the end.

no problem

468 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:39:36pm

re: #466 prononymous

If you weren't talking about the proposed ban in europe then what does "zillions" of Americans not wanting to give up automobiles have anything to do with anything that was being discussed? Nobody here is discussing making people give up their automobiles.

show me the posts referring to banning cars

469 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:40:06pm

re: #454 Slumbering Behemoth

Seriously. I make jokes, but that's not the sort of thing I would wish on someone. Even if I considered that someone to be an hilariously delusional douche-nozzle.

Yeah. I do think he should probably be in prison for directing illegal cyber attacks and threatening to harass military personnel but I do hope he kicks his heroin addiction.

470 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:42:21pm

Has anyone here made popcorn yet?

471 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:42:53pm

re: #468 albusteve

Yours was the first to bring it up.

re: #389 albusteve

driving car in America is far more than getting from here to there...it's another expression of independence of the spirit...we will always have zillions of people that will never give up driving, me included

472 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:43:01pm

re: #466 prononymous

If you weren't talking about the proposed ban in europe then what does "zillions" of Americans not wanting to give up automobiles have anything to do with anything that was being discussed? Nobody here is discussing making people give up their automobiles.

"Public transport vs The automobile" is a false dichotomy. The electric bus and light rail are the car's best friend, ekeing out the supplies of affordable fuels until a sustainable car is marketed.

473 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:43:17pm

Obama's talkin'

474 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:44:09pm

re: #473 Killgore Trout

Obama's talkin'

Are you sure that isn't Walter or Steve?

475 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:44:18pm

re: #469 Killgore Trout

Who knows? Cooling his heels in the Graybar Hotel for a spell may potentially save his life.

476 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:44:47pm

re: #471 prononymous

Yours was the first to bring it up.

re: #389 albusteve

that has nothing to do with banning cars...there are no lines to read between...I'm saying people will drive regardless of public transportation, there is no more to it

477 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:45:34pm

re: #461 SanFranciscoZionist

"This is what happened in Europe."

Yes, Mr. Cain. This is what happened in Europe.

If you back far enough, everything has happened in Europe.

478 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:46:33pm

re: #472 Decatur Deb

"Public transport vs The automobile" is a false dichotomy. The electric bus and light rail are the car's best friend, ekeing out the supplies of affordable fuels until a sustainable car is marketed.

I agree with that as I sure the people who use the DC area metro to commute to work everyday and thus cut their fuel down desepately. As I said earlier, I like public transit and transportation since it's a nice addition to the automobile.

479 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:47:21pm

Heh, sounds like Bush.

480 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:48:09pm

re: #479 Killgore Trout

Heh, sounds like Bush.

GMTA

481 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:49:32pm

re: #479 Killgore Trout

Heh, sounds like Bush.

"who we are as Americans"

482 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:50:14pm

re: #479 Killgore Trout

Heh, sounds like Bush.

Yes... and like Bush, missing most of what ACTUALLY going on in the Middle East. He just stated we have a strategic reason for going into Libya... to keep refugees from streaming into Egypt an d upsetting the new found freedoms there.

New found freedoms? Here's your new found freedoms...

CAIRO — In post-revolutionary Egypt, where hope and confusion collide in the daily struggle to build a new nation, religion has emerged as a powerful political force, following an uprising that was based on secular ideals. The Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist group once banned by the state, is at the forefront, transformed into a tacit partner with the military government that many fear will thwart fundamental changes.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Someone need to vet these speeches and make sure they are up to date an topical. Makes him look stupid.

483 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:50:40pm

re: #476 albusteve

that has nothing to do with banning cars...there are no lines to read between...I'm saying people will drive regardless of public transportation, there is no more to it

So then your post was just a heart felt counterpoint to my mocking Americans for their driving culture?

So basically we agree, I just don't think of it as a good thing, however you may feel about it.

484 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:51:16pm

Obama's equivocating about getting rid of Gadaffi & thinks he will go without being forced.

What a lawyer.

485 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:52:07pm

preznit sez we hates moe mark daffy we does and we will hates him right out of his triple E shoeses we will

486 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:52:10pm

re: #484 Ojoe

Obama's equivocating about getting rid of Gadaffi & thinks he will go without being forced.

What a lawyer.

Only way he's going is if that $300+ billion he's socked away goes with him.

487 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:52:50pm

re: #484 Ojoe

He'll be forced out of office....by the rebels. The opposition, with a little bit help from air strikes, will win this in the end.

488 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:52:59pm

What a snore speech

489 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:53:09pm

re: #484 Ojoe

Obama's equivocating about getting rid of Gadaffi & thinks he will go without being forced.

What a lawyer.

Well, I think the nuance is he doesn't want to get into a "you break it, you bought it" situation like Iraq. If the rebels do it we aren't responsible for the mess that may or may not follow.

490 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:53:20pm

re: #479 Killgore Trout

Well, Bush was a RINO after all.
/

491 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:53:50pm

re: #487 ProLifeLiberal

Good!

Then may they indulge in wine & women & not go down the oppressive fundamentalist road.

492 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:55:17pm

snore.

493 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:55:56pm

re: #491 Ojoe

Good!

Then may they indulge in wine & women & not go down the oppressive fundamentalist road.

If we are serious about winning a culture war in the ME, our most useful strategy is to increase the levels of sex, booze, and R&R among the young.

494 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:56:33pm

"...guided us through many storms..."

peroration alert!

495 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:56:47pm

re: #144 Charleston Chew

Also love the commenter's use of the term "ACORN Obama" as if they're slowly constructing some kind of Voltron of nonsensical fears.

ACORN Obama! Activate!

Death Panels Obama! Activate!

496 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:56:48pm

re: #491 Ojoe

Also, it sounds like we just gave the rebel the $30 billion that Qaddafi had here and we froze.

497 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:57:05pm

re: #145 Fozzie Bear

re: #123 talon_262

This. Only about half the GOP field running for the presidential nomination is nuts. The other half is just unbelievably cynical.

I have to admit that I prefer the cynics to the lunatics.

498 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:57:45pm

re: #152 Ojoe

Also Obama's, because it casts doubt upon him in some circles, or bolsters the doubt already there.

It is lose-lose.

You really think so? Are there really a lot of people who were not buying into this crap, who are now buying?

499 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:57:47pm

re: #211 Charles

Might be worse to go to heaven, and find out it's full of people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

I dunno. I mean, if Falwell & Robertson can get in, then bin Laden, Mullah Omar, and Ahmadinejad probably can too. It might be fun to take some popcorn and watch them duke it out for eternity. *tries to picture harried angels dressed as referees, blowing whistles and yelling "foul!" at the True Believers*

500 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:58:17pm

re: #493 Decatur Deb

Let's airdrop a ton of porn and tequila.

501 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:58:17pm

re: #492 Ojoe

snore.

A CPAP mask can help with that.

502 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:58:31pm

re: #496 ProLifeLiberal

Maybe they will spend some of it on the forbidden pleasures.

503 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:58:35pm

re: #153 iceweasel

Okay, so option one is that Obama's Batman.

*snort*

504 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:58:55pm

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

Let's airdrop a ton of porn and tequila.

I'm up for that.

505 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:59:01pm

re: #501 b_sharp

LOL

506 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:59:16pm

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

Let's airdrop a ton of porn and tequila.

Less Haj, more Spring Break.

507 jamesfirecat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:59:41pm

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

Let's airdrop a ton of porn and tequila.

How do we best make sure the tequila bottles don't break when we air drop them?

Also what if the worms aren't a native species?

508 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:59:46pm

re: #506 Decatur Deb

Less Haj, more Spring Break.

Girls gone wild.

509 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 4:59:48pm

re: #498 SanFranciscoZionist

Well I'm not a pollster so I don't know. Perhaps there is some movement.

510 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:00:06pm

re: #507 jamesfirecat

How do we best make sure the tequila bottles don't break when we air drop them?

Also what if the worms aren't a native species?

Rubbers.

511 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:00:16pm

nice speech...Bush redeux
BO will pull the trigger in the bad guys....
who'd a thought?

512 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:00:17pm

Hell drop them some American music too. Maybe some Libyan rapper will make a Fuck You directed towards Gaddafi.

513 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:01:08pm

re: #511 albusteve

nice speech...Bush redeux
BO will pull the trigger in the bad guys...
who'd a thought?

Cowboy.

514 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:01:24pm

re: #501 b_sharp

A CPAP mask can help with that.

I'm glad I read that a second time. I first read that as a "CRAP mask", and thought to myself "I sure as hell ain't going to any of B_Sharp's parties any time soon".

515 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:01:48pm

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

Let's airdrop a ton of porn and tequila.

let's airdrop a pantload of free market economists who can explain to daffy how tax cuts and repeal of regulations will incentivize libyans to work harder and cooperate with him to build an even better fascist state

516 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:01:58pm

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

I bet they could grow agave over there.

517 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:02:17pm

re: #211 Charles

Might be worse to go to heaven, and find out it's full of people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.



Whose love is given over well
Will look on Helen's face in Hell;
While they whose love is thin and wise
May view John Knox in Paradise
.

Dorothy Parker, ladies and gentlemen

518 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:02:25pm

re: #514 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm glad I read that a second time. I first read that as a "CRAP mask", and thought to myself "I sure as hell ain't going to any of B_Sharp's parties any time soon".

Don't knock it til you try it.

519 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:02:55pm

re: #507 jamesfirecat

How do we best make sure the tequila bottles don't break when we air drop them?

Also what if the worms aren't a native species?

That's easy. You wrap the tequila bottles in porn magazines to pad the landing.

520 engineer cat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:03:07pm

Obama To Force Ghaddafi Out By Boring Him To Death

521 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:03:55pm

CAn we send the cast of all thsoe crap reality shows to Libya too?

522 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:04:01pm

re: #520 engineer dog

Or by giving the Opposition enough money to go to town. They afford to buy almost anything weapon wise now.

523 jamesfirecat  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:04:12pm

re: #521 HappyWarrior

CAn we send the cast of all thsoe crap reality shows to Libya too?

Dancing with exiled dictators...

524 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:04:25pm

re: #521 HappyWarrior

CAn we send the cast of all thsoe crap reality shows to Libya too?

You don't drive?

525 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:05:02pm

re: #523 jamesfirecat

Dancing with exiled dictators...

2 1/2 Dictators

526 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:05:39pm

re: #525 HoosierHoops

Would Charlie Sheen be the 1/2 dictator?

527 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:05:41pm

re: #425 prononymous

Then I must have misunderstood, please elaborate. What is independence of the spirit and why is it better served by automobiles than public transportation?


re: #431 albusteve

I didn't say driving better served the public...you have serious comprehension deficits


And speaking of comprehension deficits. I didn't ask how it better served the public, I asked what independence of the spirit was and how driving served it.

528 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:06:47pm

re: #524 Walter L. Newton

You don't drive?

Yeah, I don't. I've had vision problems and dexterity issues for a while.

529 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:07:06pm

re: #527 prononymous

re: #431 albusteve


And speaking of comprehension deficits. I didn't ask how it better served the public, I asked what independence of the spirit was and how driving served it.


can't answer for you

530 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:08:35pm

re: #522 ProLifeLiberal

Example: Anti-Tank Weapons are needed there. An AT-4 costs $1500. They can now buy 20 million of those buggers. They only only need $1-3 million dollars worth though.

531 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:08:49pm

Well, at least somebody has frogs in their garden.....
Image: RAhhL.jpg
Mine are still MIA

532 sproingie  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:09:08pm

re: #144 Charleston Chew

Also love the commenter's use of the term "ACORN Obama" as if they're slowly constructing some kind of Voltron of nonsensical fears.

Yet another Balloon Juice coinage: Wingnut Voltron

533 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:09:26pm

re: #523 jamesfirecat

Dancing with exiled dictators...

I was thinking a Real World with dictators would be amusing.
"This is the story of seven dictators living together in the same house." Oh how fun it would be since Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinjad would be the obnoxious assholes who won't shut up.

534 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:10:11pm

re: #429 HappyWarrior

YEah, it's the spoiled bratification of hte country. The government always spends money on things we don't like. The most ridiculous crap I saw about increased rail transit came from George Will who acted like increased trail proponents were Marxist snobs. It's about practicality for me. There are many people who use the trains around here to commute and by doing so they deal with less traffic as a result.

Will seemed to think it was more than snobbery, he seemed to think there was some murky agenda of thought control involved.

Odd.

535 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:10:14pm

re: #529 albusteve

can't answer for you

Then why did you say it?

536 albusteve  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:12:40pm

re: #535 prononymous

Then why did you say it?

it was a revelation I had to share

537 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:15:00pm

re: #521 HappyWarrior

CAn we send the cast of all thsoe crap reality shows to Libya too?

Well, they were going to send the cast of Jersey Shore to Italy next season. Maybe they can go to Libya, too.

538 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:15:04pm

re: #532 sproingie

Wingnut Voltron, noun: The act when the right wing blogosphere comes together to form a powerful and passionate opposition to important things, such as scarves in a donut commercial.

I seem to recall reading about that somewhere...

539 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:15:47pm

re: #536 albusteve

Well thank you. I don't necessarily agree with you about the reasons, but I agree that Americans don't want to give up driving.

I've got a revelation I have to share, everything you see is mad up of dead stars. Ahhh.

540 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:15:52pm

re: #537 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, they were going to send the cast of Jersey Shore to Italy next season. Maybe they can go to Libya, too.

Send them to the Antarctic to measure temperatures.

541 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:16:05pm

re: #534 SanFranciscoZionist

Will seemed to think it was more than snobbery, he seemed to think there was some murky agenda of thought control involved.

Odd.

Yeah, I thought it was crap logic on his part. As I said earlier, I understand why people love driving and in many parts of the country it is a necessity. However, I found WIll's accusations of elitism towards those who propose it ironic given that he himself comes across sounding like a snob himself. I like public transportation as an addition to what we already have as I stated. The invention of commercial air travel didn't mean people had to stop driving to go on vacation for example.

542 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:17:24pm

re: #539 prononymous

Well thank you. I don't necessarily agree with you about the reasons, but I agree that Americans don't want to give up driving.

I've got a revelation I have to share, everything you see is mad up of dead stars. Ahhh.

I just had an epiphany that I need to share.

If you wash your underwear more than once a month they don't smell as bad.

543 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:19:06pm

What did I miss?

(I heard the speech)

544 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:19:24pm

re: #542 b_sharp

I just had an epiphany that I need to share.

If you wash your underwear more than once a month they don't smell as bad.

Depends on what you wash them in.

545 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:19:35pm

re: #539 prononymous

Well thank you. I don't necessarily agree with you about the reasons, but I agree that Americans don't want to give up driving.

I've got a revelation I have to share, everything you see is mad up of dead stars. Ahhh.

Let's see... I spend every other Jan. in Paris... for the last 10 years... I don't see any decrease of vehicles on the streets of Paris... if there is even a piece of payment available, starting at the size of a cafe table, some Parisian will manage to find a way to park there?

Apparently from your comments, you live in some wonderful country that has no cars or something... or are you all in the process of giving up your vehicles as we speak?

546 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:19:39pm

re: #543 Stanley Sea

The rebels can now afford to buy a metric ton of Anti-Tank Missiles.

547 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:21:24pm

re: #545 Walter L. Newton

What the hell are you talking about? Your inferences are faulty.

548 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:23:24pm

re: #547 prononymous

What the hell are you talking about? Your inferences are faulty.

Let's see... are the people in your country willing to give up their vehicles or is this, in your opinion, just unique to Americans? You made the inference, I asked the question.

549 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:23:34pm

re: #545 Walter L. Newton

Let's see... I spend every other Jan. in Paris... for the last 10 years... I don't see any decrease of vehicles on the streets of Paris... if there is even a piece of payment available, starting at the size of a cafe table, some Parisian will manage to find a way to park there?

Yes, but parking is the city sport of Paris, and they are very, very good at it. Or perhaps very bad at it. So I hear.

550 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:24:40pm

re: #549 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but parking is the city sport of Paris, and they are very, very good at it. Or perhaps very bad at it. So I hear.

That has nothing to do with what I was asking, but thanks for the input.

551 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:25:29pm

re: #484 Ojoe

Obama's equivocating about getting rid of Gadaffi & thinks he will go without being forced.

What a lawyer.

That's not what I heard. Obama's taking what the UN is offering: a resolution that allows force to stymie Gaddafi's conventional military. This sets up a ratchet. When the Libyan rebels advance, they advance. When Gaddafi's forces win a round, they can't advance.

This all but ensures a rebel victory. As this point sinks in among Gaddafi's hangers-on, they'll be looking for the exits. The U.S. won't have to do the house to house stuff; the Libyan people will step up and take care of that. Just so they don't have to face tanks, air strikes, and howitzer barrages.

552 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:26:07pm

A large number of those who are swept up in the automobile's 'independence' meme are only remembering the joys of a rolling teenage boudoir.

553 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:26:17pm

re: #547 prononymous

What the hell are you talking about? Your inferences are faulty.

Can I make a suggestion to you? I suggest you let it go. Being tag-teamed by Walter and Steve is more than a little likely to have you chasing your tail by night's end or possibly needing a rubber room from trying to nail down the goal posts.

554 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:26:50pm

This is what I really call conceal carry...

Image: 147911953_d80d461954_o.jpg

555 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:28:22pm

re: #389 albusteve

driving car in America is far more than getting from here to there...it's another expression of independence of the spirit...we will always have zillions of people that will never give up driving, me included

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this statement, it's true

556 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:28:25pm

re: #554 Walter L. Newton

This is what I really call conceal carry...

Image: 147911953_d80d461954_o.jpg

Nooo...that won't get you killed.

557 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:28:51pm

re: #553 b_sharp

Can I make a suggestion to you? I suggest you let it go. Being tag-teamed by Walter and Steve is more than a little likely to have you chasing your tail by night's end or possibly needing a rubber room from trying to nail down the goal posts.

YEs... we work together. I'm on the phone with Steve right now... we review the comments as they are posted and collaborate on out answers, in order to best utilize our combined verbal talents.

LOL. And people make fun of the Birther conspiracists. You're cute B-Sharp.

558 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:29:06pm

re: #552 Decatur Deb

A large number of those who are swept up in the automobile's 'independence' meme are only remembering the joys of a rolling teenage boudoir.

Not always true. My grandma lost a great sense of independence when she had to give up driving. It was a tough decision for her to make, but I breathed a sigh of relief when she finally made the decision.

559 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:29:23pm

re: #95 Charleston Chew

I am? I didn't know I was.

I guess I owe you an explanation. There's a science fiction short story based on those words, which were used way back when to describe Christopher Wren's architecture for St. Paul's cathedral. When written, those were all words of praise. They've shifted from positive to negative. A case in point of exactly the point you were making.

560 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:29:36pm

re: #552 Decatur Deb

A large number of those who are swept up in the automobile's 'independence' meme are only remembering the joys of a rolling teenage boudoir.

I dunno, I'd be fucked sideways without a car to carry all these things I do from place to place. Public transportation is awesome and I use it regularly, but I'll always have a car, and soon, probably a van if all this shit I'm trying actually works

561 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:30:29pm

re: #560 WindUpBird

I dunno, I'd be fucked sideways without a car to carry all these things I do from place to place. Public transportation is awesome and I use it regularly, but I'll always have a car, and soon, probably a van if all this shit I'm trying actually works

It diesn't have anything to do with things that go "boom" does it?

562 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:32:16pm

re: #561 Walter L. Newton

It diesn't have anything to do with things that go "boom" does it?

Well, boom in some measure :D But also just hauling music gear and canvases and PVC pipe and costumes and just all this STUFF

563 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:32:30pm

re: #560 WindUpBird

I dunno, I'd be fucked sideways without a car to carry all these things I do from place to place. Public transportation is awesome and I use it regularly, but I'll always have a car, and soon, probably a van if all this shit I'm trying actually works

They don't make rebel road movies about guys moving shit across town.

564 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:34:04pm

re: #548 Walter L. Newton

Let's see... are the people in your country willing to give up their vehicles or is this, in your opinion, just unique to Americans? You made the inference, I asked the question.

Man you are pulling idiocy out of thin air now. I didn't say anything about other countries. I'm an American you clueless shit-stirrer. I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA. I'm simply critical of our driving culture. Nowhere did I say what you are suggesting.

re: #553 b_sharp

Can I make a suggestion to you? I suggest you let it go. Being tag-teamed by Walter and Steve is more than a little likely to have you chasing your tail by night's end or possibly needing a rubber room from trying to nail down the goal posts.

Thanks for the advice, but I'm not worried. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's more painful for those that can't admit error. Like Walter here.

565 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:34:25pm

re: #560 WindUpBird

Can you imagine trying to ferry about enough groceries for a family of seven using nothing but public transportation? That would be insane.

566 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:35:10pm

re: #563 Decatur Deb

They don't make rebel road movies about guys moving shit across town.

hahaha they don't :D But I also drive to San Jose every year, to Seattle 9 or 10 times a year, and to a godforsaken desert in Nevada once a year, and "across town" also means to Seattle and the bay area ;-)

567 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:35:12pm

re: #557 Walter L. Newton

YEs... we work together. I'm on the phone with Steve right now... we review the comments as they are posted and collaborate on out answers, in order to best utilize our combined verbal talents.

LOL. And people make fun of the Birther conspiracists. You're cute B-Sharp.

Thanks Walter, I knew you were up to it.

568 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:36:16pm

re: #565 Slumbering Behemoth

Can you imagine trying to ferry about enough groceries for a family of seven using nothing but public transportation? That would be insane.

Safeway delivers. That's how I manage big grocery buys without a car. But a lot depends on size of family, and where the hell you are.

569 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:37:38pm

re: #568 SanFranciscoZionist

Safeway delivers. That's how I manage big grocery buys without a car. But a lot depends on size of family, and where the hell you are.

No safeway here. Say, do they charge a fee for that kind of service?

570 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:37:44pm

re: #564 prononymous

Man you are pulling idiocy out of thin air now. I didn't say anything about other countries. I'm an American you clueless shit-stirrer. I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA. I'm simply critical of our driving culture. Nowhere did I say what you are suggesting.

re: #553 b_sharp

Thanks for the advice, but I'm not worried. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's more painful for those that can't admit error. Like Walter here.

Hey Steve... were tag teaming a neighbor of yours.

571 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:37:56pm

re: #565 Slumbering Behemoth

Can you imagine trying to ferry about enough groceries for a family of seven using nothing but public transportation? That would be insane.

Organize the little guttersnipes into a safari and teach them to bear their provisions on their heads.

572 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:39:35pm

re: #568 SanFranciscoZionist

Safeway delivers. That's how I manage big grocery buys without a car. But a lot depends on size of family, and where the hell you are.

My store (King Soopers/Krogers) delivers too... called "Home Shop" which up here in the hills, it's not a bad deal, especially since we have a lot of retired people... and sometimes the roads are dangerous... only 10 dollars for delivery.

573 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:39:41pm

re: #571 Decatur Deb

Heh. I was thinking of a friend of mine, and his family. His location and the age of most of his children would make that impossible.

574 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:39:51pm

re: #565 Slumbering Behemoth

Can you imagine trying to ferry about enough groceries for a family of seven using nothing but public transportation? That would be insane.

I've done a lot of hauling on the Max before, maybe not groceries for 7 but about four armloads of stuff, it's POSSIBLE but not fun. Bring a cart and maybe a partner. *_*

My thing is we're always going to have cars but the problem is we've decided that we all want to be fast AND safe and thus we have passenger cars that weigh 4400lbs. You can make a four seater reasonably safe and half that weight, but you can't make it death proof.

I'd enjoy a category between say, the motorcycle, and the passenger vehicles we have now, with regard to licensing, safety regs, etc. The european 'city car". Like the Smart, only their Smarts are way more efficient than ours. Cars that we make fun of because we don't understand that gas there is three times what it is hear. Joe American won't buy a Ford F-350 if gas is 11 bucks a gallon. and we'll eventually have them here, in some respect.

575 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:40:12pm

re: #564 prononymous

I'm sorry... I misunderstood you.

576 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:40:32pm

re: #570 Walter L. Newton

Hey Steve... were tag teaming a neighbor of yours.

And failing. Heh.

Still don't have a clue about the Jesus and the fig tree story? ;)

577 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:41:14pm

re: #574 WindUpBird

I've done a lot of hauling on the Max before, maybe not groceries for 7 but about four armloads of stuff, it's POSSIBLE but not fun. Bring a cart and maybe a partner. *_*

My thing is we're always going to have cars but the problem is we've decided that we all want to be fast AND safe and thus we have passenger cars that weigh 4400lbs. You can make a four seater reasonably safe and half that weight, but you can't make it death proof.

I'd enjoy a category between say, the motorcycle, and the passenger vehicles we have now, with regard to licensing, safety regs, etc. The european 'city car". Like the Smart, only their Smarts are way more efficient than ours. Cars that we make fun of because we don't understand that gas there is three times what it is hear. Joe American won't buy a Ford F-350 if gas is 11 bucks a gallon. and we'll eventually have them here, in some respect.

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578 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:41:18pm

re: #569 Slumbering Behemoth

No safeway here. Say, do they charge a fee for that kind of service?

They do. Seven bucks for me, I think it runs higher in other areas. I'm about as far out in the burbs as a human can function without a car, if you go up into the hills, say, you're pretty screwed without one.

579 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:41:33pm

re: #573 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. I was thinking of a friend of mine, and his family. His location and the age of most of his children would make that impossible.

Some people just need a vehicle, one of my coworkers was dirtass poor and lived on Mt. Hood. but she always had a car, an old VW microbus, that she could fix herself, because she had to, she couldn't afford to pay someone else to do it.

580 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:41:42pm

A couple of birds are making a nest on my porch. I usually discorage that because of the poop but these guys are just too cute to chase away. They look like golf balls with a tiny needle for a beak. I can't tell the shape of the nest but it's starting to look like a hanging tear drop. Pretty cool.

581 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:41:51pm

re: #579 WindUpBird

Some people just need a vehicle, one of my coworkers was dirtass poor and lived on Mt. Hood. but she always had a car, an old VW microbus, that she could fix herself, because she had to, she couldn't afford to pay someone else to do it.

and she needed a vehicle because she owned three rottweilers, haha

582 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:42:39pm

re: #581 WindUpBird

and she needed a vehicle because she owned three rottweilers, haha

You have to be careful what you are hauling...

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583 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:42:50pm

re: #578 SanFranciscoZionist

They do. Seven bucks for me, I think it runs higher in other areas. I'm about as far out in the burbs as a human can function without a car, if you go up into the hills, say, you're pretty screwed without one.


I functioned in the outer burbs of Seattle with no car for a while, I seriously considered buying a moped because it was unbearable

584 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:43:18pm

re: #582 Walter L. Newton

You have to be careful what you are hauling...

Image: 2390503264_63b4f0f216.jpg

"hey Fan Man! You dropped your fan!"

585 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:43:26pm

I wonder how this worked out...

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586 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:43:32pm

re: #579 WindUpBird

Some people just need a vehicle, one of my coworkers was dirtass poor and lived on Mt. Hood. but she always had a car, an old VW microbus, that she could fix herself, because she had to, she couldn't afford to pay someone else to do it.

Story of my life right there. Everything I know about cars I learned from being too broke to pay someone else to fix 'em.

587 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:43:33pm

re: #578 SanFranciscoZionist

They do. Seven bucks for me, I think it runs higher in other areas. I'm about as far out in the burbs as a human can function without a car, if you go up into the hills, say, you're pretty screwed without one.

I miss Safeway..They are the best..And why the heck can't I buy fruit on the bottom yogurt like Safeway here in Oklahoma?

588 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:43:57pm

re: #580 Killgore Trout

Cool!

589 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:44:30pm

re: #573 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. I was thinking of a friend of mine, and his family. His location and the age of most of his children would make that impossible.

There are many, many of people across the country who simply couldn't ever manage without a vehicle, and no matter how good public transit gets, that won't change. Which isn't a reason not to improve public transit where and as it becomes possible.

My parents haven't had a car in twenty years. It works for them. I have friends who live at the top of a damn mountain with two kids near Santa Cruz--a car is absolutely essential, hippies though they are.

590 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:44:34pm

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

I wonder how this worked out...

Image: 2483470483_1c1c621e1e_o.jpg

That actually looks real. Do you have the story?

591 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:45:10pm

Toy Story goes reality show... tries to talk kid down from suicide...

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592 jaunte  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:45:14pm

re: #574 WindUpBird

I'd enjoy a category between say, the motorcycle, and the passenger vehicles we have now, with regard to licensing, safety regs, etc. The european 'city car".


Have you seen this Aptera thing?
[Link: www.google.com...]

593 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:45:38pm

A National Film Board short in honor of all the people having snits tonight.

[Link: www.nfb.ca...]

594 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:45:54pm

re: #590 Decatur Deb

That actually looks real. Do you have the story?

It is real... date, time unknown, posted on Flickr.

595 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:46:13pm

re: #588 Floral Giraffe

They just started yesterday. If we get enough daylight I'll try to make a picture series of the construction

596 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:46:42pm

re: #579 WindUpBird

Some people just need a vehicle, one of my coworkers was dirtass poor and lived on Mt. Hood. but she always had a car, an old VW microbus, that she could fix herself, because she had to, she couldn't afford to pay someone else to do it.

A woman I worked with used to have a VW bus, named Bluebell. She loved it, because it was so hippie-chic, but it was outrageously unecological. She spent a lot of time fretting about Bluebell's impact on the environment.

My suggestion was to park it permanently, and turn it into a little art studio, and she was, I think, considering that.

597 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:47:22pm

re: #586 Slumbering Behemoth

Story of my life right there. Everything I know about cars I learned from being too broke to pay someone else to fix 'em.

I am like that for computers :D I have kept so many laptops running on wishes, dreams, a screwdriver, a scavenged hard drive literally from the trash, duct tape... As for cars, I just have no skills, but even when I was broke, I just sorta prioritized the car. Everything else I could save on, but I know so little about fixing cars *_* OTOH I could make a living without the car, but not without a computer!

We had a linux server my roommate rigged up 100% from stuff he found in our apartment's trash. It wa shis challenge, he gave himself rules, everything must be from the trash. And damned if he didn't have like some 700mhz beige box up and running and serving in a matter of days

598 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:47:45pm

re: #586 Slumbering Behemoth

Story of my life right there. Everything I know about cars I learned from being too broke to pay someone else to fix 'em.

Tomorrow I'm giving my kid my 1981 SR500 bike--he needs to take the wear off his pickup. I've kept it beautiful for 30 years, and he'll wreck it in a couple months.

599 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:48:41pm

re: #598 Decatur Deb

Tomorrow I'm giving my kid my 1981 SR500 bike--he needs to take the wear off his pickup. I've kept it beautiful for 30 years, and he'll wreck it in a couple months.

That is the way of the world. If you want to keep old things fresh, don't have kids.

600 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:48:42pm

re: #589 SanFranciscoZionist

There are many, many of people across the country who simply couldn't ever manage without a vehicle, and no matter how good public transit gets, that won't change. Which isn't a reason not to improve public transit where and as it becomes possible.

My parents haven't had a car in twenty years. It works for them. I have friends who live at the top of a damn mountain with two kids near Santa Cruz--a car is absolutely essential, hippies though they are.

As a car lover, and a guy who just scopes out craigslist for amazing rides for sale, I tell you, CARS ARE EXPENSIVE. I currently consider my car both essential, but also somewhat of a vice. I sure ain't taking it for granted *_*

601 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:48:52pm

re: #593 b_sharp

A National Film Board short in honor of all the people having snits tonight.

[Link: www.nfb.ca...]

National Film Board... is that some socialist propaganda arm of the Canadian government?

602 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:49:18pm

re: #598 Decatur Deb

Tomorrow I'm giving my kid my 1981 SR500 bike--he needs to take the wear off his pickup. I've kept it beautiful for 30 years, and he'll wreck it in a couple months.

there's no geo prizm or 80's ford tempo for sale in the area? :D

603 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:50:24pm

re: #601 Walter L. Newton

National Film Board... is that some socialist propaganda arm of the Canadian government?

i think they funded Cube

604 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:51:00pm

re: #601 Walter L. Newton

National Film Board... is that some socialist propaganda arm of the Canadian government?

Shit.

I was hoping to stealth convert you to a socialist.

On to plan B.

605 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:51:22pm

re: #602 WindUpBird

there's no geo prizm or 80's ford tempo for sale in the area? :D

I have a Geo Prizm, 1998, really a Toyota Corolla, 80 thousand miles, still gets me through almost everything, great on snow as long as the snow is not more than 5-6 inches.

606 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:51:37pm

re: #596 SanFranciscoZionist

A woman I worked with used to have a VW bus, named Bluebell. She loved it, because it was so hippie-chic, but it was outrageously unecological. She spent a lot of time fretting about Bluebell's impact on the environment.

My suggestion was to park it permanently, and turn it into a little art studio, and she was, I think, considering that.


That's not the jalopnik way, the jalopnik way is to get it rolling with a diesel engine you run with fryer grease. (totally true, and easy to do)

607 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:52:01pm

re: #602 WindUpBird

there's no geo prizm or 80's ford tempo for sale in the area? :D

Great cars, but if you lose the windup key you're SOL.

608 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:52:18pm

re: #575 Walter L. Newton

I'm sorry... I misunderstood you.

Apology accepted. Sorry I was harsh.

If you are indeed an atheist I encourage you to look up the story I mentioned, since you didn't seem to be familiar with it.

609 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:52:44pm

re: #603 WindUpBird

i think they funded Cube

You mean "Cube" "Cube Squared" and "Hypercube" I really liked those movies. A little cheesy, acting stunk, but the whole concept was interesting enough to keep me watching.

610 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:52:53pm

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

I have a Geo Prizm, 1998, really a Toyota Corolla, 80 thousand miles, still gets me through almost everything, great on snow as long as the snow is not more than 5-6 inches.

FWD is everything in snow *_* My old Golf, the beater with no technology more advanced than the car stereo, got me up to Mt. Hood in snow and back

611 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:53:26pm

re: #598 Decatur Deb

I so wish I could just switch to a motor bike, but I can't afford the kind of insurance I would want in order to feel comfortable riding one.

That, and I can't imagine getting my ma or my grandma to all their doctors and what not on the back of a bike.

612 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:54:01pm

re: #611 Slumbering Behemoth

I so wish I could just switch to a motor bike, but I can't afford the kind of insurance I would want in order to feel comfortable riding one.

That, and I can't imagine getting my ma or my grandma to all their doctors and what not on the back of a bike.

One word: Side car.

613 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:54:06pm

re: #610 WindUpBird

FWD is everything in snow *_* My old Golf, the beater with no technology more advanced than the car stereo, got me up to Mt. Hood in snow and back

And another reason the Prizm is such a neat care... it's paid for and I can't afford another one right now... so currently it's the best car in the whole wide world.

614 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:54:24pm

re: #595 Killgore Trout

I think the house finches that like my porch light, have finally gotten the "do not nest here" message. I hope yours are Orioles! That'd be neat!

615 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:54:34pm

re: #607 b_sharp

Great cars, but if you lose the windup key you're SOL.

"What the...the goddamn gerbils got out of the car! Now it won't turn over!"


Fact: Lotus Elise is only a few hundred pounds lighter :D

616 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:55:12pm

re: #609 Walter L. Newton

You mean "Cube" "Cube Squared" and "Hypercube" I really liked those movies. A little cheesy, acting stunk, but the whole concept was interesting enough to keep me watching.

High concept sci-fi! I always love high concept sci-fi

617 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:56:47pm

re: #616 WindUpBird

High concept sci-fi! I always love high concept sci-fi

Ok... and I just looked the movies up and I got the names all mixed up, but anyway, I've seen all three, have "Cube Zero" on DVD, I like them, no matter the obvious flaws.

618 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:57:40pm

re: #594 Walter L. Newton

It is real... date, time unknown, posted on Flickr.

The film/camera technology (available light at 1/60th, fast lens) says post-'60s. Non-integrated hospital team says pre-80s South, RN wife says the equipment/clothing is 70s.

619 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:58:31pm

re: #618 Decatur Deb

The film/camera technology (available light at 1/60th, fast lens) says post-'60s. Non-integrated hospital team says pre-80s South, RN wife says the equipment/clothing is 70s.

Alien autopsy.

620 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:58:51pm

re: #613 Walter L. Newton

And another reason the Prizm is such a neat care... it's paid for and I can't afford another one right now... so currently it's the best car in the whole wide world.

Oh I'm with you on the love of paid off cars, I used to have an 80's Chevy Celebrity wagon with a big V6 engine in it (MPFI 2.8 from camaros and Firebirds iirc) it was a riot to drive and I about cried when the tranny gave. I paid $300 for it, and it's literally the most fun i've ever had with $300

621 McSpiff  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:58:56pm

re: #609 Walter L. Newton

You mean "Cube" "Cube Squared" and "Hypercube" I really liked those movies. A little cheesy, acting stunk, but the whole concept was interesting enough to keep me watching.

I actually met some of the cast from those flicks on another Canadian set. One of the few times I've met actors from films I recognize. Very cool.

622 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:59:32pm

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Jamaican Me Crazy

[Link: www.balloon-juice.com...]

So much fail:

Donald Trump made headlines earlier today when he provided what he said was a copy of his birth certificate—but a quick check reveals it’s actually not an official document.

The paper that Trump released says “Jamaica Hospital” on top and lists the date and time of what he says was his birth to “Mr. and Mrs. Fred C. Trump.” The piece of paper has a seal at the bottom.

But after several New York City-based readers contacted POLITICO’s Maggie Haberman, her call to city officials revealed that an actual birth certificate, which is issued by the Department of Health, would have the agency’s seal and also a signature of the city registrar – neither of which the Trump document has. Officials said the city Health Department is the “sole issuing authority” of official birth certificates in New York, and that the document would clearly say so, and “city officials said it’s not an official document.”

It appears instead to be a hospital “certificate of birth,” meaning the piece of paper the hospital gave to his family saying he was born. Such a document typically has the signature of the hospital administrator and the attending physician.

Does this mean Trump was born in Kenya?

Also too, you’re fired.

Also too, Donald Chump's mother was born in Scotland.

623 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 5:59:52pm

re: #617 Walter L. Newton

Ok... and I just looked the movies up and I got the names all mixed up, but anyway, I've seen all three, have "Cube Zero" on DVD, I like them, no matter the obvious flaws.

The first one is the one I truly love. If you dig movies like Cube, and you haven't seen Primer, that may be up your alley, it's a brain teaser time travel movie that tickles me the way cube does

624 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:00:03pm

re: #621 McSpiff

I actually met some of the cast from those flicks on another Canadian set. One of the few times I've met actors from films I recognize. Very cool.

awesome :D

625 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:00:04pm

Talk about high concept movies, the wife and I went to 'Hobo with a Shotgun' on Saturday.

It was waayy over the top. Blood filled cheese souffle over the top.

626 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:00:49pm

re: #619 Walter L. Newton

Alien autopsy.

I just hope they got their transfusions from the local bloodbank.

627 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:01:20pm

re: #622 moderatelyradicalliberal

Trump is just being himself, he's not running, it's all a show. NO WAY is that guy really a birther, he's just fucking around and pandering and teasing and enjoying the attention and the instant he tried to really get in the race he'd be split in half by the GOP machinery

628 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:01:27pm

re: #625 b_sharp

Talk about high concept movies, the wife and I went to 'Hobo with a Shotgun' on Saturday.

It was waayy over the top. Blood filled cheese souffle over the top.

YES!

629 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:02:33pm

re: #625 b_sharp

Talk about high concept movies, the wife and I went to 'Hobo with a Shotgun' on Saturday.

It was waayy over the top. Blood filled cheese souffle over the top.

You know that movie was green-lit because some guys just filmed a ridiculous parody grindhouse trailer for the film, even though it didn't exist, right? :D

it's being sold entirely on grindhouse depravity, so yes *_*

630 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:02:35pm

re: #623 WindUpBird

The first one is the one I truly love. If you dig movies like Cube, and you haven't seen Primer, that may be up your alley, it's a brain teaser time travel movie that tickles me the way cube does

Seen Primer... narrative falls apart toward the end... good idea, seemed like they didn't have enough idea/material to spread it out to a feature, script needed to be punched up, but overall, another nice first effort by some young film makers.

631 McSpiff  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:02:44pm

re: #625 b_sharp

Talk about high concept movies, the wife and I went to 'Hobo with a Shotgun' on Saturday.

It was waayy over the top. Blood filled cheese souffle over the top.

Friends with the director's younger brother. Very cool guys. I remember when it was just a concept/trailer. I was probably one of the first (less than a thousand anyways) people to see that.

I am name dropping all over the thread tonight.

632 blueraven  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:03:13pm

re: #622 moderatelyradicalliberal

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Jamaican Me Crazy

[Link: www.balloon-juice.com...]

Also too, Donald Chump's mother was born in Scotland.

But he is very smart! That's what he has been telling us. All the best schools, a wonderful student...

633 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:03:58pm

re: #628 WindUpBird

YES!

I figured you'd like it.

If you've ever watched LEXX, the guy that played Stanley is the bad guy and Rutger Hauer the good guy.

634 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:04:06pm

re: #627 WindUpBird

Trump is just being himself, he's not running, it's all a show. NO WAY is that guy really a birther, he's just fucking around and pandering and teasing and enjoying the attention and the instant he tried to really get in the race he'd be split in half by the GOP machinery

Oh don't say that. I want the attention whore to run. Now I haz a sad.

Image: i%2Bhas%2Ba%2Bsad.jpg

635 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:04:13pm

re: #625 b_sharp

Talk about high concept movies, the wife and I went to 'Hobo with a Shotgun' on Saturday.

It was waayy over the top. Blood filled cheese souffle over the top.

also, this is the gold right here :D


"The missus and I saw Tokyo Gore Police. at the bijou, it was quite a feisty romp, what with the crocodile jawed vagina and the killer eye sockets"

636 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:04:38pm

re: #633 b_sharp

I figured you'd like it.

If you've ever watched LEXX, the guy that played Stanley is the bad guy and Rutger Hauer the good guy.

I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, EVEN BETTER

637 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:05:00pm

re: #629 WindUpBird

You know that movie was green-lit because some guys just filmed a ridiculous parody grindhouse trailer for the film, even though it didn't exist, right? :D

it's being sold entirely on grindhouse depravity, so yes *_*

Yup. That's why we went to it.

Machete was better.

638 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:05:23pm

LOL, you all heard about the missing Egyptian cobra at the Bronx zoo?

Well, he's on twitter at least.

Bronx Zoo's Cobra
@BronxZoosCobra view full profile →

I'm not at the Bronx Zoo.

639 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:05:49pm

re: #629 WindUpBird

You know that movie was green-lit because some guys just filmed a ridiculous parody grindhouse trailer for the film, even though it didn't exist, right? :D

it's being sold entirely on grindhouse depravity, so yes *_*

The first "Saw" movie was basically sold with just short scene as a treatment.

There must be something wrong with me, because I'm intrigued by movies like "Saw"... not so much impress (or bothered) by the splat stuff, but the ideas are fresh... I think that's what attracts me to those flicks.

I have "Saw 5" and haven't gotten around to even opening the DVD package. I'm a bit behind.

640 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:06:00pm

With all the talk of automobiles, here is the next one I want. I want to build a Westfield XTR2 kit car. Bike powered cars are f'n awesome, IMO. And then it could be switched over to electric when we get infrastructure.

641 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:06:19pm

BronxZoosCobra Bronx Zoo's Cobra

Anyone know of a good vegan restaurant near Union Square? #snakeonthetown

642 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:06:41pm

re: #633 b_sharp

I figured you'd like it.

If you've ever watched LEXX, the guy that played Stanley is the bad guy and Rutger Hauer the good guy.

Hobo With A Shotgun is a thing I've been following since the original amateur trailer because it was just like I couldn't believe it. "They're not making it. They can't be serious. Huh, they green lit it. Wow! huh, Hauer? Holy shit, there's a new trailer that looks exactly like the old one but shot with real film footage that's really Rutger Hauer Oh God it's real"

it's like when they made Machete. it was too good to be true and yet? TRUE

643 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:06:49pm

re: #638 Stanley Sea

LOL, you all heard about the missing Egyptian cobra at the Bronx zoo?

Well, he's on twitter at least.

Bronx Zoo's Cobra
@BronxZoosCobra view full profile →

I'm not at the Bronx Zoo.

ahahahahahahahha

644 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:07:55pm

re: #640 prononymous

With all the talk of automobiles, here is the next one I want. I want to build a Westfield XTR2 kit car. Bike powered cars are f'n awesome, IMO. And then it could be switched over to electric when we get infrastructure.

[Video]

Here you go.

645 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:08:00pm

re: #643 WindUpBird

ahahahahahahahha

They should let loose a few mongooses. They will take care of that situation.

646 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:09:02pm

re: #644 b_sharp

Here you go.

Not that kind of bike. LOL.

647 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:09:07pm

BronxZoosCobra Bronx Zoo's Cobra

Leaving Wall Street. These guys make my skin crawl. #snakeonthetown

648 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:09:23pm

re: #640 prononymous

I'm a traditionalist, I want a CAR CAR. I'm sorta afraid of bikes :D supercharged Elise or a big stupid 80's Firebird with a LS3 in it, plz *_*

649 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:09:48pm

re: #640 prononymous

With all the talk of automobiles, here is the next one I want. I want to build a Westfield XTR2 kit car. Bike powered cars are f'n awesome, IMO. And then it could be switched over to electric when we get infrastructure.

[Video]

What powerplant? Here is an electrified 1973 Land Rover like my petrol version.

[Link: www.google.com...]

650 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:10:38pm

re: #640 prononymous

If I had a private race track OTOH, I'd be ALL OVER THAT

651 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:10:48pm

re: #568 SanFranciscoZionist

Safeway delivers. That's how I manage big grocery buys without a car. But a lot depends on size of family, and where the hell you are.

No Safeway here.
And nobody delivers.
I suppose, though, they would start if they had to.

652 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:11:12pm

re: #649 Decatur Deb

pics of your rover plz *_*

653 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:11:34pm

re: #638 Stanley Sea

LOL, you all heard about the missing Egyptian cobra at the Bronx zoo?

Well, he's on twitter at least.

Bronx Zoo's Cobra
@BronxZoosCobra view full profile →

I'm not at the Bronx Zoo.

Dang snake escapes Zoo then tweets without fingers..
mad skilzs..They will probably catch him being a cabbie downtown

654 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:11:48pm

re: #649 Decatur Deb

My cousin had a totally great range rover, then they stupidly traded it in for some big Escalade EXT chrome wheels thing

655 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:11:51pm

re: #648 WindUpBird

I'm a traditionalist, I want a CAR CAR. I'm sorta afraid of bikes :D supercharged Elise or a big stupid 80's Firebird with a LS3 in it, plz *_*

If you move to some place where its all down hill you don't need a motor in your car.

[Link: www.claymath.org...]

656 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:11:57pm

re: #648 WindUpBird

I'm a traditionalist, I want a CAR CAR. I'm sorta afraid of bikes :D supercharged Elise or a big stupid 80's Firebird with a LS3 in it, plz *_*

And some folks wouldn't know what to do without our drag races!

657 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:12:00pm

re: #648 WindUpBird

I'm a traditionalist, I want a CAR CAR. I'm sorta afraid of bikes :D supercharged Elise or a big stupid 80's Firebird with a LS3 in it, plz *_*

I used to be that way too. All of my big, heavy classic 60's cars breaking down in unfortunate circumstances has weaned me from that nostalgia. :(

658 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:12:25pm

re: #655 b_sharp

If you move to some place where its all down hill you don't need a motor in your car.

[Link: www.claymath.org...]


So what you're saying is I get better mileage on acid

659 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:12:27pm

re: #647 Stanley Sea

BronxZoosCobra Bronx Zoo's Cobra

Leaving Wall Street. These guys make my skin crawl. #snakeonthetown

Holding very still in the snake exhibit at the Museum of Natural History. This is gonna be hilarious!

660 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:13:15pm

re: #654 WindUpBird

My cousin had a totally great range rover, then they stupidly traded it in for some big Escalade EXT chrome wheels thing

I have a '98 Grand Cherokee Ltd 5.9. Does that count?

661 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:13:30pm

re: #653 HoosierHoops

Dang snake escapes Zoo then tweets without fingers..
mad skilzs..They will probably catch him being a cabbie downtown

Well, most of my students text with two fingers--one tail should do.

662 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:13:39pm

re: #659 SanFranciscoZionist

Holding very still in the snake exhibit at the Museum of Natural History. This is gonna be hilarious!

For you... face your fears...

Image: 20090316_080950_cd17snakes.jpg

663 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:13:53pm

re: #656 reine.de.tout

And some folks wouldn't know what to do without our drag races!

yay! Ours is PIR :D [Link: www.portlandraceway.com...]

Which eventually, i plan on taking racing classes there when I can afford it *_*

664 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:14:03pm

re: #658 WindUpBird

So what you're saying is I get better mileage on acid

It's self evident, my brother.

665 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:14:04pm

SNAKE ON THE TOWN.

I needed this laugh. People are just so funny, thank goodness for that.

666 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:14:18pm

re: #601 Walter L. Newton

National Film Board... is that some socialist propaganda arm of the Canadian government?

Nope. One of the best film companies in the world. Won a ton of awards including Academy Awards.

667 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:14:55pm

re: #659 SanFranciscoZionist

I want to thank those animals from the movie "Madagascar." They were a real inspiration.

668 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:14:58pm

re: #590 Decatur Deb

That actually looks real. Do you have the story?

That is totally Photoshopped.

669 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:15:21pm

re: #649 Decatur Deb

What powerplant? Here is an electrified 1973 Land Rover like my petrol version.

[Link: www.google.com...]

I'd just go with the default Hayabusa superbike engine first, until I decided on the motor.

My net is acting up. BRB.

670 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:15:21pm

re: #666 Romantic Heretic

Nope. One of the best film companies in the world. Won a ton of awards including Academy Awards.

Another broken sarcasm meter... so sad. There is no humor in Canada.

671 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:15:32pm

re: #666 Romantic Heretic

Nope. One of the best film companies in the world. Won a ton of awards including Academy Awards.

Walter was just trying to pull my chain.

He doesn't know it, but I have it chained up.

672 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:16:02pm

re: #660 b_sharp

I have a '98 Grand Cherokee Ltd 5.9. Does that count?

No it doesn't. That's a real off road vehicle and not a status symbol with useless rims!

My cousin's ride is more or less one of these: Image: cad519-escalade-22wg_500.jpg

Which makes me go :(

673 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:16:25pm

re: #669 prononymous

I'd just go with the default Hayabusa superbike engine first, until I decided on the motor.

My net is acting up. BRB.

did you see the hayabusa smart?

674 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:17:24pm

re: #670 Walter L. Newton

Another broken sarcasm meter... so sad. There is no humor in Canada.

Sure there is. It's right here.

675 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:17:52pm

re: #662 Walter L. Newton

For you... face your fears...

Image: 20090316_080950_cd17snakes.jpg

I'm not afraid of snakes.

I'm afraid of spiders.

I like snakes.

676 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:18:17pm

re: #672 WindUpBird

No it doesn't. That's a real off road vehicle and not a status symbol with useless rims!

My cousin's ride is more or less one of these: Image: cad519-escalade-22wg_500.jpg

Which makes me go :(

Crap.

Foiled again.

677 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:21:21pm

re: #652 WindUpBird

pics of your rover plz *_*

Can't upload from home--there's was an exact copy on the web, but i'm not finding it yet.

678 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:27:14pm

re: #673 WindUpBird

did you see the hayabusa smart?

Aren't there a bunch of those now?

679 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:45:51pm

re: #332 Fozzie Bear

There's nothing like taking millions of indigent elderly people off public assistance programs to turn out lots of voters... to vote against the GOP.

What about entitlements for the comfortably set? There are such retirees, you know. What about overly generous entitlements, such as disability pensions with standards so lax that almost everyone can retire on disability at 50 or so?

The nation has a fiscal problem. Sooner or later, the entitlement system is going to be reformed, because right now it includes impossibly expensive, impossibly generous promises to folk that don't really need or deserve what they're entitled to.

That which is impossible will not happen. These promises, in their aggregate, will be broken. The breaking will be messier and more traumatic if it comes at a time of fiscal emergency. It will be cleaner and less traumatic if it comes in a measured way, as our Congress and executive branch gently breaks the bad news to the millions of people who have paid in some and are on track to receive back much more than they put in, and more than they absolutely need.

Done that way, the chance that the promise will also be broken with respect to those who have nothing of their own put by is reduced. The chance that those who could put by some of their own will decide to party now and retire on the public dime later in comfort, and then be rudely disappointed, is also reduced.

680 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:48:10pm

re: #678 prononymous

Aren't there a bunch of those now?

I have no idea, I wa sjust shown one doing donuts on yt a while back :D

681 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:57:26pm

re: #680 WindUpBird

Yeah, I have seen videos and whatnot. But never in person. It seems like an effective easy way to achieve a high power/weight ratio. But the Westfield is even better. :)

682 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 28, 2011 7:14:24pm

re: #526 ProLifeLiberal

Would Charlie Sheen be the 1/2 dictator?

No, he's a full-on dick...


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