John Stesart desribed as a "bread-based feces containment system"

Yeah. Stewart had a better take on it. He was calling out the news orgs wanting to make everything into a doctrine.

Colbert can be razor sharp.

I like the way be beat up Gingrich.

re: #2 recusancy

Yeah. Stewart had a better take on it. He was calling out the news orgs wanting to make everything into a doctrine.

Woops. This one not that one.

Sarah, who could not even describe the Bush Doctrine when asked about it in an interview is sure about her views on her Obama Doctrine.

re: #5 ralphieboy

I favor the Doctor Doctrine.

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re: #6 Obdicut

I favor the Doctor Doctrine.

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No second chances?

re: #7 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Let's hope it's that and not "Everyone close to me dies".

Interesting!

tweetminster Tweetminster
by davidfolkenflik

Reuters & Guardian report that #Libya FM has quit Govt. & arrived in the UK, Sky News reporting #Libya deputy FM says reports are nonsense.

Folkenflik (yeah!)

re: #2 recusancy

Yeah. Stewart had a better take on it. He was calling out the news orgs wanting to make everything into a doctrine.

Wolf Blitzer has been riding his Gulf War coattails for 20 yrs and would desperately love to be relevant again.

re: #5 ralphieboy

Sarah, who could not even describe the Bush Doctrine when asked about it in an interview is sure about her views on her Obama Doctrine.

She looked up the word 'doctrine' after that interview...now everything's a doctrine. Bristol's pregnancy doctrine, Todd's snow-machine doctrine, Al Roker's weather doctrine...

I'm surprised no one glommed (?) on to that before this. I guess they were so mesmerized by Gates saying that Libya was not in our vital interest earlier in the show, they passed right over it.

Personally, I think it's more of giant douche.

More..

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
by acarvin

If anyone can provide accurate intel that can personally threaten the life of Gaddafi and his sons, it's Musa Kusa. #Libya

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
by acarvin

Musa Kusa will probably never stand trial for anything. He's an intel treasure chest and they'll definitely cut a deal with him. #Libya

re: #13 Stanley Sea

So, he has officially left then? Very good. Now, the rebels need an Ammo Drop. A big one. Also, they must be more organized into units.

Amid Public Vitriol, Boehner, Reid Negotiate Budget Deal To Avoid Shutdown

As insight into how there's often a huge mismatch between public kabuki and behind-the-scenes legislative wrangling, a well-placed congressional source tells me that while House Republicans and Senate Democrats ratcheted up the government shutdown rhetoric on Tuesday, top aides to House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid sat down in Reid's office and continued negotiating a solution -- a meeting the source described as a key development and thaw in the negotiations.

It's the first evidence we've seen all week that a shutdown isn't a foregone conclusion, particularly in light of Paul Kane's scoop that Boehner is reaching out to conservative Democrats to find a compromise.

Republicans downplayed the development, pointing out that discussions between the principals never stopped.

The Tea Partiers are going to be pissed.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Amid Public Vitriol, Boehner, Reid Negotiate Budget Deal To Avoid Shutdown

The Tea Partiers are going to be pissed.

It still makes Boehner look like the incompetent orange fool that he is.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Amid Public Vitriol, Boehner, Reid Negotiate Budget Deal To Avoid Shutdown

The Tea Partiers are going to be pissed.

I wonder if Boehner's decided that the threat of being tossed out via primary is less important than making sure his own party doesn't go down in flames due to government shutdown.

re: #14 ProLifeLiberal

So, he has officially left then? Very good. Now, the rebels need an Ammo Drop. A big one. Also, they must be more organized into units.

Yeah, he's in London.

re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I wonder if Boehner's decided that the threat of being tossed out via primary is less important than making sure his own party doesn't go down in flames due to government shutdown.

"WE DIDN'T VOTE YOU INTO OFFICE TO NEGOTIATE!"
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re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I wonder if Boehner's decided that the threat of being tossed out via primary is less important than making sure his own party doesn't go down in flames due to government shutdown.

The Republicans are in an impossible situation. It shows that they aren't going to fully follow through with the Tea Party's economic suicide. It makes sense to alienate the wingnuts extremists rather than the entire country,

TARP investment in banks repaid with profit

The portion of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) that went to banks has now turned a profit for the federal government, the Treasury Department announced Wednesday.

After receiving $7.4 billion in TARP repayments Wednesday, the Treasury has now received $251 billion from banks participating in various bailout programs, which is good for a $6 billion profit from the $245 billion originally handed out to banks. The department now estimates that bank investments under TARP will ultimately net taxpayers roughly $20 billion in profit.

Furthermore, the Treasury estimates that all the TARP programs combined — including money doled out to banks, insurance company American International Group (AIG) and domestic auto companies — will result in "little to no cost to taxpayers."

re: #20 Killgore Trout

The Republicans are in an impossible situation. It shows that they aren't going to fully follow through with the Tea Party's economic suicide. It makes sense to alienate the wingnuts extremists rather than the entire country,

It certainly adds a new dimension to next year's elections. I think we might start to see more and more cracks in the space between the Tea Party and GOP leadership, perhaps even leading to a full-on schism in the party ranks.

re: #22 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It certainly adds a new dimension to next year's elections. I think we might start to see more and more cracks in the space between the Tea Party and GOP leadership, perhaps even leading to a full-on schism in the party ranks.

I think the Tea Party may be over. CNN released a poll today that the Tea Party has been becoming increasingly unpopular. There's a Tea Party rally scheduled for tomorrow in DC, even the wingnut blogs aren't promoting. I doubt many people will show up. They tried to hold counter protests in Wisconsin which quickly flopped. It might be over but I was predicting the end of the Tea Party last year so what do I know.

re: #22 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It certainly adds a new dimension to next year's elections. I think we might start to see more and more cracks in the space between the Tea Party and GOP leadership, perhaps even leading to a full-on schism in the party ranks.

G-d, let that happen...the wingnut TPers can't be told to STFU and STFD fast enough.

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Right now the teaparty is running around 30% favorable / 44% unfavorable (from Nate Silver at NYT), the unfavorable is up sharply since January, but the favorable shows no real decline over the past year. My guess is that the base is still happy with all of the hoopla, buy many independents are coming out against the TP.

re: #18 Stanley Sea

A big problem is the fact that the rebels are acting too independently. Hopefully, after this retreat, the officers at the top can giving a blistering speech saying how the unorganized manner of the advance caused them to lose their gains. Go slower, and keep the supply lines nearby. Don't move faster than your tanks and artillery.

re: #25 BishopX

Right now the teaparty is running around 30% favorable / 44% unfavorable (from Nate Silver at NYT), the unfavorable is up sharply since January, but the favorable shows no real decline over the past year. My guess is that the base is still happy with all of the hoopla, buy many independents are coming out against the TP.

That sounds about right. The independents are getting a heaping helping of Tea Party lunacy on the state level and are not finding the taste to their liking. That's gonna spell doom for any candidate next year who ties his presidential ambitions to the TP's bandwagon.

re: #26 ProLifeLiberal

A big problem is the fact that the rebels are acting too independently. Hopefully, after this retreat, the officers at the top can giving a blistering speech saying how the unorganized manner of the advance caused them to lose their gains. Go slower, and keep the supply lines nearby. Don't move faster than your tanks and artillery.

Nope... these "rebels" are fucked, unless the coalition goes WAY BEYOND the UN mandate or someone puts boots on the ground. Gadaffi is going to play this for all it's worth.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Amid Public Vitriol, Boehner, Reid Negotiate Budget Deal To Avoid Shutdown

The Tea Partiers are going to be pissed.

i heartily encourage the teabaggers to not put up with this craven show of realism on the part of the old guard republicans, and show them that they mean business by running tea party candidates at all levels from the president on down against the republican and democratic candidates in 2012 and beyond

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi

Abdul Rahman Shalgam, former Libyan Ambassador at the UN to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa is the Blackbox of the Libyan regime" #Libya

re: #17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I wonder if Boehner's decided that the threat of being tossed out via primary is less important than making sure his own party doesn't go down in flames due to government shutdown.

Maybe, just maybe Boehner, as well as Reid actually care what will happen to the nation if a shutdown should happen.

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

I don't think so, Qaddafi is going to have supply issues here soon, and supplies (Small Arms, Ammo, Anti-Tank/Vehicle weapons) should reinvigorate the opposition. Also the foreign minister of Qaddafi defected. Hopefully, the senior officers are giving the fighters a bit of a rundown.

Why are they "rebels" to you?

re: #32 ProLifeLiberal

I don't think so, Qaddafi is going to have supply issues here soon, and supplies (Small Arms, Ammo, Anti-Tank/Vehicle weapons) should reinvigorate the opposition. Also the foreign minister of Qaddafi defected. Hopefully, the senior officers are giving the fighters a bit of a rundown.

Why are they "rebels" to you?

Good grief prolifeliberal, they are rebels. WTH?

re: #32 ProLifeLiberal

I don't think so, Qaddafi is going to have supply issues here soon, and supplies (Small Arms, Ammo, Anti-Tank/Vehicle weapons) should reinvigorate the opposition. Also the foreign minister of Qaddafi defected. Hopefully, the senior officers are giving the fighters a bit of a rundown.

Why are they "rebels" to you?

Because I question (as our state department has, and our military has) the providence or SOME of these fighters? There is the possibility that some of these fighters are Islamist mercenary's. That's bothersome to me, especially for the future if the "rebels" succeed.

Just like the new found freedom in Egypt...

CAIRO — In post-revolutionary Egypt, where hope and confusion collide in the daily struggle to build a new nation, religion has emerged as a powerful political force, following an uprising that was based on secular ideals. The Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist group once banned by the state, is at the forefront, transformed into a tacit partner with the military government that many fear will thwart fundamental changes.
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It is also clear that the young, educated secular activists who initially propelled the nonideological revolution are no longer the driving political force — at least not at the moment.

Freedom is good, but there is a lot of "vacuums" being created, and I'm concerned what is going to fill those "vacuums."

re: #33 blueraven

I didn't get the point across. Walter up there used quotes around the word. Something about that is off.

They are rebels.

Time for the drive & NPR.

See ya on the flip side.

re: #35 ProLifeLiberal

I didn't get the point across. Walter up there used quotes around the word. Something about that is off.

They are rebels.

See my re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Off for an evening shift at the store. Be back at after midnight, probably. Cheers.

They've found their next boogeyman;

House Republicans seek IRS probe of AARP

AARP lobbied for the new health care law and now it stands to profit, Republican lawmakers charged Wednesday as they called for the IRS to investigate whether the powerful interest group representing older Americans should be stripped of its federal tax exemption.

Three veteran GOP representatives released a report that estimates the seniors lobby could make an additional $1 billion over 10 years on health insurance plans whose sales are expected to pick up under the new law. They also questioned seven-figure compensation for some AARP executives.

"Based on the available evidence, substantial questions remain about whether AARP should maintain its tax-exempt status," said the report, released by Reps. Wally Herger of California, Charles Boustany of Louisiana and Dave Reichert of Washington.

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

And France worked real swimmingly after the 1789 Revolution? It took them nearly 90 years to end up with a functional Republic. They went through 2 Republics, 2 Empires, and 2 Different Monarchical Houses before getting there. Their will be stumbling blocks. But their were in the Western World as well. The US was the exception, not the rule.

I hate it when I want to post a long message and the character counters still say I've got 111 characters to go yet the posting javascript tells me the post is "too long".

Oh well... let's try this again...

The professional whiners are doing their job over Obama's energy speech... but the President proves once again he is not the stereotype that the rabid right wing prefers to portray.

A bit of the speech:

Now, here’s the thing -– we have been down this road before. Remember, it was just three years ago that gas prices topped $4 a gallon. I remember because I was in the middle of a presidential campaign. Working folks certainly remember because it hit a lot of people pretty hard. And because we were at the height of political season, you had all kinds of slogans and gimmicks and outraged politicians -- they were waving their three-point plans for $2 a gallon gas. You remember that -- “drill, baby, drill”
-- and we were going through all that. (Laughter.) And none of it was really going to do anything to solve the problem. There was a lot of hue and cry, a lot of fulminating and hand-wringing, but nothing actually happened. Imagine that in Washington. (Laughter.)

The truth is, none of these gimmicks, none of these slogans made a bit of difference. When gas prices finally did fall, it was mostly because the global recession had led to less demand for oil. Companies were producing less; the demand for petroleum went down; prices went down. Now that the economy is recovering, demand is back up. Add the turmoil in the Middle East, and it’s not surprising that oil prices are higher. And every time the price of a barrel of oil on the world market rises by $10, a gallon of gas goes up by about 25 cents.

The point is the ups and downs in gas prices historically have tended to be temporary. But when you look at the long-term trends, there are going to be more ups in gas prices than downs in gas prices. And that’s because you’ve got countries like India and China that are growing at a rapid clip, and as 2 billion more people start consuming more goods -- they want cars just like we’ve got cars; they want to use energy to make their lives a little easier just like we’ve got -- it is absolutely certain that demand will go up a lot faster than supply. It’s just a fact.

There's truth in there that the atavists, revanchists, and paleos just refuse to accept - that they can't accept because it goes against their dogma.

[cont]

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They've found their next boogeyman;

House Republicans seek IRS probe of AARP

Meanwhile, the banks responsible for the latest economic disaster got a bailout, the men running those banks got their very generous bonuses and compensation packages, and the most we're looking to make back is $20 billion.

Glad to know our elected representatives have got their priorities straight. *rolls eyes*

re: #37 Walter L. Newton

See my re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Off for an evening shift at the store. Be back at after midnight, probably. Cheers.

There are probably mercenaries and Islamists on both sides. Such is the state of affairs in the ME.

re: #39 ProLifeLiberal

And France worked real swimmingly after the 1789 Revolution? It took them nearly 90 years to end up with a functional Republic. They went through 2 Republics, 2 Empires, and 2 Different Monarchical Houses before getting there. Their will be stumbling blocks. But their were in the Western World as well. The US was the exception, not the rule.

Anything is possible... isn't it? Or are you convinced this can only work out for the better?

[cont]

Now, in light of the ongoing events in Japan, I want to just take a minute to talk about nuclear power. Right now, America gets about one-fifth of our electricity from nuclear energy. And it’s important to recognize that nuclear energy doesn’t emit carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So those of us who are concerned about climate change, we’ve got to recognize that nuclear power, if it’s safe, can make a significant contribution to the climate change question.

And I’m determined to ensure that it’s safe. So in light of what’s happened in Japan, I’ve requested a comprehensive safety review by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to make sure that all of our existing nuclear energy facilities are safe. And we’re going incorporate those conclusions and lessons from Japan in design and the building of the next generation of plants. But we can’t simply take it off the table.

My administration is leading global discussions towards a new international framework in which all countries who are operating nuclear plants are making sure that they’re not spreading dangerous nuclear materials and technology.

Here again the President shows his detractors are just professional whiners. I've defended the President (for whom I did not vote) over this issue since the beginning, when here at LGF the usual voices would chime in against Obama on how he (supposedly like all leftists) is anti-nuke, when anyone who actually looked at his history would have known differently.

I think the President's speech is a bit too optimistic, but I also realize that's part of his job.

Energy will remain a top topic, though the complexity of the actual matter will make for plenty of fertile ground for the demagogues of the DRILL BABY DRILL crowd.

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Over the long term (decades or centuries), yes it will work out for the better. Short term, things will be a wild ride in the area. After all, isn't this what happened in Europe in the 19th century, especially around 1848?

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Freedom is good, but

There is always a but. So we put these places under the international microscope and make it clear what direction we prefer they go. If they couldn't choose islamism though, it wouldn't really be freedom now would it?

Sarah Palin is great right up until she opens her mouth.

re: #47 prononymous

Remember Democracy is an ongoing experiment. Inevitably, some fail or malfunction. And the successors of that experiment learn from those mistakes.

re: #48 sod

Sarah Palin is great right up until she opens her mouth.

Or writes on FB, or twitter, or the palm of her hand.

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Anything is possible... isn't it? Or are you convinced this can only work out for the better?

Yes anything is possible, and if PLL is convinced this can work, you balance him out with your ever present claims that it can not and will not work.

re: #49 ProLifeLiberal

Remember Democracy is an ongoing experiment. Inevitably, some fail or malfunction. And the successors of that experiment learn from those mistakes.

That's right. These power vacuums could easily be filled by tyrants again. Or turn into democracy of a highly questionable nature. Or some of them could turn out successful and be good examples for the rest of the middle east.

It's a gamble. But without taking the chance we definitely won't see democracy spread in the region. Because we don't have the resources, or moral authority IMO, to force everyone to do it and this is what that process looks like when driven from the grassroots.

re: #21 Killgore Trout

TARP investment in banks repaid with profit

Damnit! Where's the fun in electing socialists when they can't even get socialism right?
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re: #48 sod

Sarah Palin is great right up until she opens her mouth.

IMO, this feels somewhat sexist.

Just stand there and look pretty. But please don't speak or anything.

re: #51 blueraven

This will work out in the region in the long run. Short run, we are in for a ride. Hold on to your hats folks.

re: #54 prononymous

IMO, this feels somewhat sexist.

Just stand there and look pretty. But please don't speak or anything.

If it makes you feel better, I don't want to see her standing there either.

re: #54 prononymous

I'd prefer her going back to being a backwoods hillbilly. I don't want to see her at all. Is that better that what sod said?

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If it makes you feel better, I don't want to see her standing there either.

Err, it was sarcastic. I'd prefer she didn't have a national media form from which to spread absolute nonsense. I don't care what she looks like or what she writes on facebook or her hand.

re: #57 ProLifeLiberal

I'd prefer her going back to being a backwoods hillbilly. I don't want to see her at all. Is that better that what sod said?

"There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away."

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

Damnit! Where's the fun in electing socialists when they can't even get socialism right?
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read the comments...there are some differing opinions regarding the accuracy of the blurb

re: #57 ProLifeLiberal

Yes. I just don't like the "stand there and look pretty without talking" vibes.

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

:Throws sharpened boomerang:
*grunt*
:hops back in tunnel:

re: #54 prononymous

Whatever.

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth

:Throws sharpened boomerang:
*grunt*
:hops back in tunnel:

"I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war."

Well, I am going to steal an analogy of Forrest Gumps; the Middle East right now is like a box of Muslim Chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. But in Libya we have already picked our chocolate, so get to chewing.

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away."

All hail Lord Humongous!!!

re: #63 sod

It's just a comment, it's not like I'm down-dinging you or anything. I don't think we should be ok with sexism just because the target is on the "other side". I feel that she is slightly attractive. But seeing someone in the media usually comes along with hearing them.

Arizona solves non-existent problem, creates more.

Despite there being no evidence to support state Senator Nancy Barto's claim that "sex-selection abortions are happening in this country," Governor Jan Brewer signed a controversial bill into law banning race/gender-based abortions.

The new law forces any doctor who performs an abortion to sign an affidavit confirming that the reason for the abortion wasn't the race or gender of the fetus.

The bill also allows the father of the fetus -- as long as he's married to the woman who gets an abortion -- to sue a doctor if he thinks an abortion was performed based on race or sex.

A violation of the law is a class 3 felony.

Opponents of the bill say there's no evidence to suggest that abortions being performed for either of those reasons is a problem in Arizona. They say the new law "is just to further damage the reputations of women who get an abortion."

We sent the bill's author, state Representative Steve Montenegro, and Barto emails asking them to produce any evidence that these types abortions are happening in Arizona.

They never got back to us.

Aside from the law tackling a problem that doesn't actually exist -- wasting legislators' time and taxpayers' money -- it poses several problems.

For starters, lying on a form about why you want an abortion is pretty easy to do, so in reality, this is simply a symbolic jab at women who get abortions. Or, in the words of Senator Kyrsten Sinema,"this legislation spreads myths that are untrue, and the implication that women make decisions based on these motives in our country is offensive."

Not to mention another significant problem -- let's say a woman and her significant other have a falling out after learning they're pregnant. What's to stop a woman's bitter baby-daddy from falsely reporting that his ex is having an abortion based on race or gender out of spite? As hard as it is to prove someone's having an abortion for one of those reasons, it's equally difficult to prove that they're not.

re: #54 prononymous

IMO, this feels somewhat sexist.

Just stand there and look pretty. But please don't speak or anything.

Heh, even the "pretty" part is questionable. Beauty is as beauty does.

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Arizona solves non-existent problem, creates more.

more proof of a corrupt, theocratic intrusion into private lives...if it continues, people will revolt

CIA 'gathering intel firsthand' in Libya, source says

The CIA is operating in Libya to help the United States increase its "military and political understanding" of the situation, a U.S. intelligence source said.

"But yes, we are gathering intel firsthand and we are in contact with some opposition entities," the source told CNN.

I'm pretty sure this explains how the Libyan foreign minister showed up in London today. I doubt he got out of the country on his own.

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Arizona solves non-existent problem, creates more.

I don't think it is a problem for AZ republicans that their law is flawed and can lead to someone easily illegally interfering with an abortion. It's almost like they want it that way or something. Hmm...

re: #71 Killgore Trout

CIA 'gathering intel firsthand' in Libya, source says

I'm pretty sure this explains how the Libyan foreign minister showed up in London today. I doubt he got out of the country on his own.

a simple enough operation...but the CIA has to clean up their act and let's hope Libya is good ground to make some improvements

re: #66 talon_262

All hail Lord Humongous!!!

"Greetings from The Humungus! The Lord Humungus! The Warrior of the Wasteland! The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla!"

re: #65 justaminute

Well, I am going to steal an analogy of Forrest Gumps; the Middle East right now is like a box of Muslim Chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. But in Libya we have already picked our chocolate, so get to chewing.

That sounds a hell of a lot better than a turd sandwich.

re: #71 Killgore Trout

CIA 'gathering intel firsthand' in Libya, source says

I'm pretty sure this explains how the Libyan foreign minister showed up in London today. I doubt he got out of the country on his own.

Well, I just wondered how those laser guided and GPS guided missiles were finding their targets. Somebody had to be on the ground to help them out.

re: #72 prononymous

I don't think it is a problem for AZ republicans that their law is flawed and can lead to someone easily illegally interfering with an abortion. It's almost like they want it that way or something. Hmm...

"Why would you want to know the sex of your baby? Because you want to abort it if it's the 'wrong' sex, right? That's it, isn't it?! You make me sick, get out of my office!"

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re: #77 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Why would you want to know the sex of your baby? Because you want to abort it if it's the 'wrong' sex, right? That's it, isn't it?! You make me sick, get out of my office!"

/

Do they also have one of those mandatory ultrasound laws?

"So, uh, is it a boy or girl?"
"It's a girl"
"Let's not do this after all."

This Libya thing is a mess & too bad Kissinger wasn't around to talk some realpolitik sense into "Washington."

I thought we were doing a good thing at first, too.

re: #76 justaminute

Well, I just wondered how those laser guided and GPS guided missiles were finding their targets. Somebody had to be on the ground to help them out.

They can be targeted by drones, among other things.

re: #78 prononymous

Do they also have one of those mandatory ultrasound laws?

"So, uh, is it a boy or girl?"
"It's a girl"
"Let's not do this after all."

Can they tell the race of an embryo on an ultrasound? Maybe they'll have to mandate DNA tests.

re: #80 prononymous

They can be targeted by drones, among other things.

Drones need at least some kind of ground intelligence.

Arizona lawmakers further expand abortion restrictions

The latest measure alters the definition of what kind of abortions must be performed by a doctor. In doing so, it overrules existing practice that allows a certified nurse practitioner to administer RU-486 which chemically induces a woman to miscarry.

But HB 2416 also expands what information must be provided to a woman prior to the procedure for her to give “informed consent.” That includes not only offering her a chance to view the ultrasound that is typically conducted anyway prior to an abortion but also the opportunity to hear the heartbeat of her unborn child.

And doctors who do not comply can not only lose their license but also are subject to suit by the woman, her husband and, in the case of a minor, her parents.

The 18-10 vote comes just one day after Brewer signed into law a measure that makes it a crime for a physician to perform an abortion knowing that the woman is seeking to terminate the pregnancy because of the gender or race of the child, with doctors subject to 3 1/2-year prison terms.

And another proposal awaiting final action would place yet another restriction on who can perform an abortion.

Bryan Howard, chief executive of Planned Parenthood Arizona, said the measures, taken together, are “aimed at decimating the ranks of providers.”

re: #81 wrenchwench

Can they tell the race of an embryo on an ultrasound? Maybe they'll have to mandate DNA tests.

"I'm sorry ma'am, but we can allow you to have an abortion because you're black and that might be affecting your decision."

re: #79 Ojoe

What makes you think it's a mess?

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"I'm sorry ma'am, but we can allow you to have an abortion because you're black and that might be affecting your decision."

"Please come back when you're feeling whiter."

re: #81 wrenchwench

Can they tell the race of an embryo on an ultrasound? Maybe they'll have to mandate DNA tests.

Yep, becuase you sure can't take the word of of a murderous pregnant woman. //

re: #82 wozzablog

Drones need at least some kind of ground intelligence.

What sort of intelligence do they need?

re: #45 freetoken

Some pretty knowledgeable people think that Fukushima reactor No. 2 has now melted through the bottom of its massive stainless primary containment vessel:

Richard Lahey, head of safety research for this type of reactor at General Electric, which installed the reactors at Fukushima in the 1970s, says workers at the site appear to have lost the race to save the crippled No. 2 reactor.

The Guardian newspaper quotes him as saying he believes the reactor core has melted through the bottom of the pressure vessel and at least some of it is down on the concrete floor beneath.

re: #88 prononymous

What sort of intelligence do they need?

"HEY! Look over there!"

re: #86 wrenchwench

"Please come back when you're feeling whiter."

lol
could have been a line from 'The Jerk'

re: #85 Killgore Trout

You're kidding, right?

re: #87 CuriousLurker

Yep, becuase you sure can't take the word of of a murderous pregnant woman. //

A woman who is pregnant is obviously under the influence of hormones. Her opinion in these circumstances is irrelevant.

re: #82 wozzablog

Drones need at least some kind of ground intelligence.

I called my Navy pilot son to ask him but I got his voice mail. Now I really want an answer to this.

re: #92 Ojoe

You're kidding, right?

Are you?

re: #94 justaminute

I called my Navy pilot son to ask him but I got his voice mail. Now I really want an answer to this.

drones find hard targets on their own...of course, any ground intel might be a benefit, but a tank is a tank to a TV camera

re: #69 CuriousLurker

Heh, even the "pretty" part is questionable. Beauty is as beauty does.

Who the hell decided the Semi-governor is pretty? This is pretty:

Image: audrey-hepburn-mark-shaw-3-520x559.jpg

Evening Honcos.

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Who the hell decided the Semi-governor is pretty? This is pretty:

Image: audrey-hepburn-mark-shaw-3-520x559.jpg

arf arf
what a dog

re: #95 Killgore Trout

It is a mess. Among other things, Obama puts our prestiege on the line by saying he believes
Gadaffi will "step down."

We look the fool, as a nation.

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Who the hell decided the Semi-governor is pretty? This is pretty:

Image: audrey-hepburn-mark-shaw-3-520x559.jpg

Can't argue with that. She was gorgeous.

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos.

What's kick'n Chicken?

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Who the hell decided the Semi-governor is pretty? This is pretty:

Image: audrey-hepburn-mark-shaw-3-520x559.jpg

I thought she was quite attractive - until it became crystal clear to me that she's a quitter and really stupid too.

I kept wondering why McCain's folks seemed to be trying to keep a lid on her; I thought they were making a mistake. They weren''t.

re: #94 justaminute

I called my Navy pilot son to ask him but I got his voice mail. Now I really want an answer to this.

They don't need a spotter on the ground but it helps to spot who may or may not be in a given building.
Also if you recall operations in the early days of the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts there are a variety of operations going on. We deliver satellite phones to generals, politicians, tribal leaders etc. to convince them to do the right thing. Suitcases of cash for carrots and targeted missile strikes as the stick. It's really fascinating stuff.

We had two hellacious thunderstorms yesterday. A house down the street from me was hit by lightening and caught fire last night. I think part of their roof is gone; no clue what sort of damage they had inside.

re: #100 Ojoe

It is a mess. Among other things, Obama puts our prestiege on the line by saying he believes
Gadaffi will "step down."

We look the fool, as a nation.

Leaders lead. Obama is no leader. He is in way over his head.

re: #100 Ojoe

It is a mess. Among other things, Obama puts our prestiege on the line by saying he believes
Gadaffi will "step down."

We look the fool, as a nation.

Ah, ok. I'll leave you to it then.

re: #100 Ojoe

We look the fool, as a nation.

I feel okay.

re: #100 Ojoe

yes, because the rest of the world will be shocked and surprised with our foreign policy mishaps and misunderestimations. where have you been for the last ten years?

re: #108 Obdicut

I feel okay.

I haven't felt this good in weeks.

STOP IT MR. SANDMONKEY!

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Have you read "C the secret life of Sir Stewart Graham Menzies" ?
He was Winston Churchill's spymaster.
A really interesting book.

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

Way, way over.

re: #96 albusteve

Last week, my son said an Admiral came to address the future P3 pilots and told them they are going to be the future P8a pilots. It has a lot more arms on the plane as well as a drone attached to the wing. Seems like their duties have been greatly expanded as well. Training is going to be alot longer as well. He's excited.

re: #104 Killgore Trout

They don't need a spotter on the ground but it helps to spot who may or may not be in a given building.
Also if you recall operations in the early days of the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts there are a variety of operations going on. We deliver satellite phones to generals, politicians, tribal leaders etc. to convince them to do the right thing. Suitcases of cash for carrots and targeted missile strikes as the stick. It's really fascinating stuff.

yes, proxies are extremely valuable in semi-asymmetrical warfare, but it creates it's own problems too....questionable loyalties, blown covers etc

re: #110 darthstar

I haven't felt this good in weeks.

That seals it, I'm having a beer.

Cheers.

A Sierra Nevada Glissade, for those of you following along at home.

re: #113 Ojoe

Way, way over.

Would you rather have someone like Newt "secular athiest muslim extremists" Gingrich or Sarah "I can say doctrine now" Palin making decisions?

re: #105 reine.de.tout

We had two hellacious thunderstorms yesterday. A house down the street from me was hit by lightening and caught fire last night. I think part of their roof is gone; no clue what sort of damage they had inside.

Yikes! Being reminded of the formidable power of nature is always a good reality check for me.

Mmm. Hoppy.

re: #109 zora

I have been dismayed for 10 years

re: #116 Obdicut

That seals it, I'm having a beer.

Cheers.

A Sierra Nevada Glissade, for those of you following along at home.

I'm actually home sick - really not feeling all that hot - today. Had a shot of Jameson about a half hour ago and that didn't help. I think I may actually have to take a night off from drinking.

re: #117 darthstar

I joined the Whigs, if that answers your question.

re: #100 Ojoe

It is a mess. Among other things, Obama puts our prestiege on the line by saying he believes
Gadaffi will "step down."

We look the fool, as a nation.

that's unavoidable...I say screw public opinion and do the right thing, and except for a lost week when it really mattered, BO has done okay...I have some criticism but generally I'm good with Libya, so far

re: #117 darthstar

Would you rather have someone like Newt "secular athiest muslim extremists" Gingrich or Sarah "I can say doctrine now" Palin making decisions?

No. A half term Senator will make everything all right by saying..."Let me be clear".

re: #122 Ojoe

I joined the Whigs, if that answers your question.

Cool. After you unhitch your wagon and put the horses out to pasture, milk the cow and churn me up some butter I can use for cooking tonight.

re: #114 justaminute

Last week, my son said an Admiral came to address the future P3 pilots and told them they are going to be the future P8a pilots. It has a lot more arms on the plane as well as a drone attached to the wing. Seems like their duties have been greatly expanded as well. Training is going to be alot longer as well. He's excited.

I'll bet he is....you should be proud
I salute him

Key Libyan Rebel Leader Is Quick Diplomatic Study

re: #120 Ojoe

I have been dismayed for 10 years

You probably started with higher than warranted expectations. I'm surprised things are as delightful as they seem.

re: #122 Ojoe

I joined the Whigs, if that answers your question.

So you're a Trump fan?

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. A half term Senator will make everything all right by saying..."Let me be clear".

you are speaking about words...I judge his actions
this stuff is not easy for any C/C, and alot of crap is gonna be said here and there....looking for political trouble is a waste of time when you are focused on the tactical aspect

Good to see Obama acting so swift on Libya. Where was he with Iran?

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good to see Obama acting so swift on Libya. Where was he with Iran?

You can't be serious.
Iran and Libya are to very different beasts.

re: #132 Varek Raith

You can't be serious.
Iran and Libya are to very different beasts.

False equivalence is still equivalence!!!

/

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good to see Obama acting so swift on Libya. Where was he with Iran?

out to lunch, but in reality there is little to be done about Iran....the comparison is flawed

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good to see Obama acting so swift on Libya. Where was he with Iran?

Must have missed where Dinnerjacket called in airstrikes and naval bombardment on the protesters...

/

re: #132 Varek Raith

You can't be serious.
Iran and Libya are to very different beasts.

He said nothing in results to Iran. Innocent people killed? Fuck it.

re: #133 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

False equivalence is still equivalence!!!

/

My magic balance fairy is more equivalent than yours.
/

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Good, he's going to need to be a quick study.

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

He said nothing in results to Iran. Innocent people killed? Fuck it.

Obama to Iran’s leaders: Stop ‘unjust’ actions -2009

President Barack Obama on Saturday challenged Iran's government to halt a "violent and unjust" crackdown on dissenters, using his bluntest language yet to condemn Tehran's post-election response.

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

He said nothing in results to Iran. Innocent people killed? Fuck it.

words don't protect lives, muscle does

re: #138 Floral Giraffe

Good, he's going to need to be a quick study.

He sounds like an interesting guy. I also suspect that our CIA guys are insuring that people like him are going to be well placed in a post Q'Daffy Libya.

re: #88 prononymous

What sort of intelligence do they need?

They don't fly completely random flight paths looking for targets.

re: #141 Killgore Trout

He sounds like an interesting guy. I also suspect that our CIA guys are insuring that people like him are going to be well placed in a post Q'Daffy Libya.

or inadvertently get him killed

re: #142 wozzablog

They don't fly completely random flight paths looking for targets.

And they have a problem crashing weddings.

re: #135 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Must have missed where Dinnerjacket called in airstrikes and naval bombardment on the protesters...

/

You also didn't hear the Green Party in Iran asking for US involvement either.

re: #144 Decatur Deb

And they have a problem crashing weddings.

Yeah.

Munchies. BBL

re: #142 wozzablog

They don't fly completely random flight paths looking for targets.

usually satellites will find targets, maybe confirmed by humint...drones work perfectly well without direct help from boots

re: #145 justaminute

You also didn't hear the Green Party in Iran asking for US involvement either.

Bomb the Iran Guard, arm the Iranians, call me in a week.

"The perfect is the enemy of the good"
-Voltaire

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Munchies. BBL

Hmmm, dinner sounds like a good idea.

Later, lizards.

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good to see Obama acting so swift on Libya. Where was he with Iran?

He was probably busy realizing that there were no allies backing a move against Iran, that the protesters hadn't effectively rebelled and that the opposition didn't control a single city. Also, Iran's major cities lie inland, behind a wall of coastal mountains packed with anti-ship missiles. Do you ask such questions completely ignorant of the basic facts or is reality simply inconvenient to your need to find fault with Obama?

re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bomb the Iran Guard, arm the Iranians, call me in a week.

Exactly how do you propose picking the RG out of the general population? Bomb them all?

re: #153 justaminute

Exactly how do you propose picking the RG out of the general population? Bomb them all?

INVADE!

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good to see Obama acting so swift on Libya. Where was he with Iran?

After Libya is over if the Iranian resistance wants some no-fly assistance, I'm down for that.

I usually don't advocate violence, often to the point of appearing the pacifist. But, IMO, this is a rare chance in the middle east.

re: #142 wozzablog

They don't fly completely random flight paths looking for targets.

Nor did I suspect that they did.

Libya conflict leaves both sides running short of ammunition

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

He was probably busy realizing that there were no allies backing a move against Iran, that the protesters hadn't effectively rebelled and that the opposition didn't control a single city. Also, Iran's major cities lie inland, behind a wall of coastal mountains packed with anti-ship missiles. Do you ask such questions completely ignorant of the basic facts or is reality simply inconvenient to your need to find fault with Obama?

Yes. If you through my post I blame everything on Obama. And I never gave him props for anything. Obama is worried about himself. And if you don't see that you are an idiot.

re: #111 Stanley Sea

STOP IT MR. SANDMONKEY!

Stop what?

re: #159 wrenchwench

Stop what?

Radical re-tweeting. Like 30 at a time. Ovah & ovah. He stopped.

Something about #RevolutionLingo

re: #157 Floral Giraffe

Libya conflict leaves both sides running short of ammunition

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Arabs are notoriously poor marksmen...spray and pray burns up ammo fast

re: #157 Floral Giraffe

Libya conflict leaves both sides running short of ammunition

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Wasn't it one of the Arab-Israeli wars where both sides burned up through their munitions so quickly, we and the Soviet Union had to airlift more in just to keep things going?

re: #155 prononymous

After Libya is over if the Iranian resistance wants some no-fly assistance, I'm down for that.

I usually don't advocate violence, often to the point of appearing the pacifist. But, IMO, this is a rare chance in the middle east.

re: #155 prononymous

After Libya is over if the Iranian resistance wants some no-fly assistance, I'm down for that.

I usually don't advocate violence, often to the point of appearing the pacifist. But, IMO, this is a rare chance in the middle east.

Well, if Syria was successfully overthrown, that would really give the Iranian government major heartburn. They really are starting to feel the effects of sanctions, but there are still to many countries willing to meet their needs.

The Green movement and others would prefer regime change the way Egypt did it or is try to do it.

re: #162 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Wasn't it one of the Arab-Israeli wars where both sides burned up through their munitions so quickly, we and the Soviet Union had to airlift more in just to keep things going?

I am down with bacon wrapped bullets. But then again, I like bacon.

maybe it's time to bring up the AC130s and other gunships for frontline stuff

re: #160 Stanley Sea

Radical re-tweeting. Like 30 at a time. Ovah & ovah. He stopped.

Something about #RevolutionLingo

Ah, thanks. I just scrolled down my Tweetdeck, and I see what you mean.

Any idea what it means when El Baradai or others tweet a blank message, or a few dots?

re: #165 albusteve

maybe it's time to bring up the AC130s and other gunships for frontline stuff

AC130s and A-10s are now operating in Libya.

re: #163 justaminute

re: #155 prononymous

Well, if Syria was successfully overthrown, that would really give the Iranian government major heartburn. They really are starting to feel the effects of sanctions, but there are still to many countries willing to meet their needs.

The Green movement and others would prefer regime change the way Egypt did it or is try to do it.

Lebanon would be a US Allie now. Period.

re: #166 wrenchwench

Ah, thanks. I just scrolled down my Tweetdeck, and I see what you mean.

Any idea what it means when El Baradai or others tweet a blank message, or a few dots?

no idea. butt tweet?

Libya crisis: Gaddafi forces adopt rebel tactics

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

AC130s and A-10s are now operating in Libya.

I'd heard the AC rumors...but the A10s are super lethal and maybe they will help turn the tide...as for me, 'assets' include the human sort so put them into the fight next time around to remove them

re: #169 Stanley Sea

no idea. butt tweet?

Is that when you sit on your phone?

Or is it a fart?

re: #165 albusteve

maybe it's time to bring up the AC130s and other gunships for frontline stuff

Gaddafi (that's my spelling and I'm sticking with it) is not as much a fool as he seems. He's used the advantage of interior lines to strike first at Zawiyah, then strike East. He's adapted quickly to the U.S. intervention, and now dresses up his soldiers in civilian clothes and puts them in civilian trucks.

They've still got their commo gear, their training, and their mortars and MGs. That's enough, against ragtag opposition, to win a ground war if the U.S. abstains from all action against "civilians". And if we do shoot up one of his divisions as it's storming Rahts Auss or wherever, there'll be a terrible toll of 22 year old, fit young civilians, each recently the owner of an AK47, a brace of grenades, and so forth.

Every war is a turd sandwich. That fare may be the best on the menu, but it still stinks. We may find we have to intervene more heavily. Weighing in, and then punting, is hardly an option.

re: #157 Floral Giraffe

Libya conflict leaves both sides running short of ammunition

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

[G-man]This sounds like a job for the military industrial complex![/G-man]

*sigh*

What I don't like about all this is that more weapons are getting out into the world. Into hands that have no accountability, and we have no say about who they are used on in the future.

I really hope this all works out for the best. Because the worst case scenario is this turns out like Afghanistan v1.0. We train them and arm them, they win, turn into an extremist state and use those techniques and weapons against us.

re: #163 justaminute

The Green movement and others would prefer regime change the way Egypt did it or is try to do it.

As would I. Unfortunately I doubt Iranian state security forces will show the same kind of restraint that the Egyptian military did. Maybe they can do it without our help though, if these democratic revolutions elsewhere help them muster enough public support.

re: #172 wrenchwench

Is that when you sit on your phone?

Or is it a fart?

Ha! Both!

re: #170 Floral Giraffe

Libya crisis: Gaddafi forces adopt rebel tactics

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

I'll get some of my friends, give them a cooler full of beer and we will fuck shit up.
/

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll get some of my friends, give them a cooler full of beer and we will fuck shit up.
/

Is that what happened last night?

/

re: #177 wrenchwench

Is that what happened last night?

/

I only fell over once!!!!
/

re: #160 Stanley Sea

Radical re-tweeting. Like 30 at a time. Ovah & ovah. He stopped.

Something about #RevolutionLingo

I tried to follow him for a while but soon gave up.

Is Charles in? Google has copied the upding system, sort of...

All righty, I'm out. Peace be upon the Lizard Nation.

re: #180 Rightwingconspirator

Recommended it, he'll see it.

Hey all! How are you?

I just made an awesome dinner that came out better than I had hoped, so I thought I would share the recipe.

Grilled marinated flank steak with a brandy mushroom sauce over wild rice

You will need:

1 lb flank steak (more is fine :) )
chili powder
paprika
nutmeg
cinnamon
salt
pepper
1 lime
1/2 onion
about 6 oz brandy
minced garlic, 5 -7 cloves
1/2 red sweet bell pepper
olive oil
margarine (or butter if not kosher)
1/4 cup beef bullion
1/2 lb mushrooms

1 grill pan
1 small pan suitable for making a rue
1 sauce pot (coverable)
1 large pot suitable for cooking spaghetti

rice, noodles or kasha to serve over.

Step one:
Rinse off your flank steak, pat dry, lay on a plate. Sprinkle lightly with salt and pepper. Coat liberally with a mixture of chili powder and paprika. Sprinkle on some nutmeg and cinnamon.

Step two: In a large ziplock bag place 1 tbsp olive oil, 2 oz. brandy, the minced garlic, the juice of that lime and about 2 oz of beef bullion. Emulsify the mixture in the bag. Place the flank steak into the bag and make certain it is liberally coated in the marinade.

Step three:
In the large pot bring several quarts of water to about 120 degrees. This is about the temperature of hot water from most sinks. Place the ziplock bag with the meat and marinade into the water and let sit (without external heat) for 1-2 hours.

This step is the magical kitchen chemistry part. You will have all sorts of interactions between the fats in the meat and the marinade.

Step four:
In your sauce pot, place the half onion with a little olive oil. caramelize for 1/2 hour. Thickly cut the mushrooms and add them to the pot with a few oz of brandy after that half hour. Cover.

Step five:
When you are thinking it is time to start the rice or the noodles or the kasha, I used wild rice for this, start boiling the water for it in another pot, pull out your grill pan. Start your rice.

Prepare a rue in your small sauce pan. Use 2 tbsp margarine or butter an one heaping tbsp flour. Stir vigorously with whisk until dark blonde over medium heat. This will take appox 5 minutes.

Heat your grill pan while you are doing the rue. When your grill pan is searing hot, put the flank steak on.

Step Six: Add the left over marinade to your rue. Whisk in thoroughly and add about 2 oz brandy as well as the 1/4 cup beef bullion. When mixed and heated for about 2 minutes, fold this into the mushroom and onions. recover the sauce pot.

Step seven: By now your flank steak should be ready to flip. Add the red pepper to the grill pan.

Step eight: Fold any drippings from the steak into the sauce. Let stand, deal with your side of noodles or rice.

Step nine: Thinly slice the steak at an angle.

When plating, put the rice down first, then a layer of the mushroom brandy sauce, then several slices of steak with the peppers on top.

re: #148 albusteve

usually satellites will find targets, maybe confirmed by humint...drones work perfectly well without direct help from boots

Pretty much everywhere drones are hitting there are CIA operatives active. Yemen, Pakistan & Afghanistan mainly.

Not everything we hit with a drone is a tank or artillery piece.

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

Recommended it, he'll see it.

Hey you!

re: #184 wozzablog

Pretty much everywhere drones are hitting there are CIA operatives active. Yemen, Pakistan & Afghanistan mainly.

Not everything we hit with a drone is a tank or artillery piece.

thanks, I knew that

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey all! How are you?

I just made an awesome dinner that came out better than I had hoped, so I thought I would share the recipe.

LVQ, if I wasn't already married...

re: #185 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey you!

*smooch*
Hey, back!

re: #187 b_sharp

LVQ, if I wasn't already married...

Aw shucks ma'am... this really did come out well though. I'm proud because I made it up on the fly.

It's nice to see the moonbats haven't changed too much....

French Militants in Libya protest in support of Khaddafi

A small delegation of French militants has made a trip to Tripoli in order to attempt to meet with Colonel Khaddafi to protest against a war started for what they call "western imperialism."

This delegation included such figures as French humorist Dieudonné, the university academic Maria Poumier and the militant pro-palestinian environmentalist Ginette Skandrani.

""Our president Sarkozy is a war criminal."
....
Sarkozy is the victim of an Israeli personality who is a disaster. This person manipulates Sarkozy like a puppet."

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

Really ironic that this got posted in a thread titled

Stephen_Colbert-_The_Turd_Sandwich_in_Libya

LOL!

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

Cinnamon. Interesting.

re: #190 Killgore Trout

It's nice to see the moonbats haven't changed too much...

French Militants in Libya protest in support of Khaddafi

[Video]

head desk... Moonbats moonbats moonbats, they never saw a ruthless, murdering, dictator they didn't like.

re: #5 ralphieboy

Sarah, who could not even describe the Bush Doctrine when asked about it in an interview is sure about her views on her Obama Doctrine.

Well, since it's still in the definitional stages, her guess is as good as anyone else's. That helps.

(I was so hacked at Dennis Prager when he defended her over that. It was, now that I look back on it, the beginning of a general trend toward insisting that knowing your ass from your elbow was not necessary for an American leader.)

Hey LVQ, do you have any decent resources about ocean anoxia? Specifically tipping points, etc. I'm cooking up another page and thought you might have some good source material.

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

That sounds really good. Too bad all my meat for the week is going on the grill. Noted for later.

re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote

Aw shucks ma'am... this really did come out well though. I'm proud because I made it up on the fly.

I can cook well as long as I have a recipe handy, but seat of the pants cooking, not so much. I'm lucky the wife is a good cook.

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Cinnamon. Interesting.

Cinnamon and beef is a fabulous and time tested combination. It's what makes a Cincinnati chilli taste like it does.

re: #193 LudwigVanQuixote

head desk... Moonbats moonbats moonbats, they never saw a ruthless, murdering, dictator they didn't like.

I'm surprised George Galloway wasn't there too. At least they aren't volunteering to serve as human shields like they did in Iraq.

re: #196 b_sharp

I can cook well as long as I have a recipe handy, but seat of the pants cooking, not so much. I'm lucky the wife is a good cook.

Head desk.... Don't say things like if "I weren't married" to me then! Sorry!

re: #18 Stanley Sea

Yeah, he's in London.

Oh. Not Gaddafi. Koussa.

I was wildly excited there for a moment. I mean, not that it's not news, but...

re: #197 LudwigVanQuixote

Cinnamon and beef is a fabulous and time tested combination. It's what makes a Cincinnati chilli taste like it does.

Huh, I'll have t try that.

re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote

Head desk... Don't say things like if "I weren't married" to me then! Sorry!

But a guy saying that to another guy is what made it funny.

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Because I question (as our state department has, and our military has) the providence or SOME of these fighters? There is the possibility that some of these fighters are Islamist mercenary's. That's bothersome to me, especially for the future if the "rebels" succeed.

I think you might mean 'the provenance of some of these fighters'. Their providence is well illustrated by the number of guns they seem to have saved up over the years.

//I'm being difficult. It's hot where I am.

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

Sounds excellent. We are firing up the bbq tonight. I came up with a cocktail just last Saturday that may go well with your steak or afterward. Tangerine Dream. Short glass-Ice. Just a small splash of vermouth on the ice. Liberal rum, top off with fresh tangerine juice. Wait for it to really chill.

re: #174 prononymous

I think calling Egypt a win is a mistake. Egypt's military still own to much of the mean of productions like the RG in Iran does.

Last week Mr. Dinnerjacket was interviewed by a female Iranian reporter. Her head scarf slipped off halfway through the interview and stayed off for the rest of the interview. This might not seem like very much to you but it was a very big deal. Some think that their going to start laying off the Muslim issues to satisfy the young. They have shut out alot of the Mullahs in the past 2 months. They might consider it a win if they get to keep all the oil money and the power as well as pacifying the young.

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

Thanks!

re: #43 blueraven

There are probably mercenaries and Islamists on both sides. Such is the state of affairs in the ME.

Definitely mercs on Gaddafi's side, probably the rebels too. Islamists? I'm sure they're out there.

Right now I'm mostly reserving judgement because I really don't know whose analysis to trust. Most of it seems to be common sense and guesswork. Someone, get me a damn Libya expert!! Preferably one from Laos or someplace, that doesn't have a political axe to grind.

re: #205 justaminute

I think calling Egypt a win is a mistake. Egypt's military still own to much of the mean of productions like the RG in Iran does.

Last week Mr. Dinnerjacket was interviewed by a female Iranian reporter. Her head scarf slipped off halfway through the interview and stayed off for the rest of the interview. This might not seem like very much to you but it was a very big deal. Some think that their going to start laying off the Muslim issues to satisfy the young. They have shut out alot of the Mullahs in the past 2 months. They might consider it a win if they get to keep all the oil money and the power as well as pacifying the young.

I'm more concerned, by far, of Iran's nuclear ambitions than I am for their social repression

re: #204 Rightwingconspirator

But where is the Rum and Coke?

Anybody know how to type while a cat is laying on the keyboard?

re: #210 b_sharp

Looks like you do!
///

re: #51 blueraven

Yes anything is possible, and if PLL is convinced this can work, you balance him out with your ever present claims that it can not and will not work.

Murphy was an optimist. Walter is too.

So am I, I guess.

re: #210 b_sharp

If you find out Please let us know.

re: #205 justaminute

I think calling Egypt a win is a mistake. Egypt's military still own to much of the mean of productions like the RG in Iran does.

Excuse me? Where did I say Egypt is a win?

Sorry if I conveyed that impression. The final outcome there is still rather ambiguous for the moment, IMO.

re: #209 Bear

Heh. Sounds like Cuba Libre. So-Cuba. If they can get real Coke. Or if I could get real Cuban rum, my patio.

re: #204 Rightwingconspirator

Use heavy tropical rum like tacky, but tasty Captain Morgan!

re: #195 prononymous

Hey LVQ, do you have any decent resources about ocean anoxia? Specifically tipping points, etc. I'm cooking up another page and thought you might have some good source material.

That sounds really good. Too bad all my meat for the week is going on the grill. Noted for later.

Here are some good references to start with:

First, this is part of why we keep talking about the Permian extinction and the cretaceous anoxic event:

[Link: geology.gsapubs.org...]
[Link: www.nature.com...]
[Link: puddle.mit.edu...]

And this will scare the shit out of you:

A safe operating space for humanity

[Link: www.nature.com...]

Identifying and quantifying planetary boundaries that must not be transgressed could help prevent human activities from causing unacceptable environmental change, argue Johan Rockström and colleagues.

New approach proposed for defining preconditions for human development
Crossing certain biophysical thresholds could have disastrous consequences for humanity
Three of nine interlinked planetary boundaries have already been overstepped

re: #211 Floral Giraffe

Looks like you do!
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Yah, right. I booted him off and got a cat scowl in return. Now I have a pissed off cat.

re: #218 b_sharp

Are cats the masters, or are the humans?

re: #204 Rightwingconspirator

Sounds excellent. We are firing up the bbq tonight. I came up with a cocktail just last Saturday that may go well with your steak or afterward. Tangerine Dream. Short glass-Ice. Just a small splash of vermouth on the ice. Liberal rum, top off with fresh tangerine juice. Wait for it to really chill.

That sounds excellent. For me though with this, I had a nice ruby port. I have become a big fan of it lately.

re: #210 b_sharp

Anybody know how to type while a cat is laying on the keyboard?

Carefully.

re: #219 Floral Giraffe

Are cats the masters, or are the humans?

Cats. Definitely cats.

re: #217 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you. I was already scared before I started writing. This isn't helping one bit with that, but it certainly gives motivation to write another of my walls-of-text.

re: #220 LudwigVanQuixote

That sounds excellent. For me though with this, I had a nice ruby port. I have become a big fan of it lately.

A "ruby port" - is that backwards compatible?

re: #195 prononymous

And I went to that page and would have commented there how awesome it is, but the comments are closed. You did a great job!

re: #208 albusteve

I'm more concerned, by far, of Iran's nuclear ambitions than I am for their social repression

This is not of course a way to satisfy the West. This is what some in the Iranian regime thinks that will satisfy the public in Iran hoping for more freedoms. Kind of like McCain picking Palin to try and get the Hillary voters.

re: #217 LudwigVanQuixote

Here are some good references to start with:

First, this is part of why we keep talking about the Permian extinction and the cretaceous anoxic event:

[Link: geology.gsapubs.org...]
[Link: www.nature.com...]
[Link: puddle.mit.edu...]

And this will scare the shit out of you:

A safe operating space for humanity

[Link: www.nature.com...]

Just fucking great.

re: #224 wozzablog

A "ruby port" - is that backwards compatible?

Only if you have the right girl drinking it with you :)

New Flower book came.
BBL.

LVQ, nice to "see" you!

re: #219 Floral Giraffe

Are cats the masters, or are the humans?

In my house there is no question, the cats rule.

re: #227 b_sharp

Just fucking great.

Yeah, the world as we know it literally is ending. We are causing it, and our bought and paid for scum whore politicians lie about it to please corporate masters who don't care and will kill you for their short term profits.

After keeping his mouth shut for 5 years, he picks a goodie.

....on Tuesday, Clarence Thomas cheerfully took the opportunity to read the conservative majority’s decision against an innocent black man in New Orleans who had been framed by the district attorney and was very nearly executed.

[Link: wonkette.com...]

The only way I can stomach this story is to read it through the lens of Wonkette.

re: #229 Floral Giraffe

New Flower book came.
BBL.

LVQ, nice to "see" you!

Always a pleasure dear! Always!

re: #224 wozzablog

A "ruby port" - is that backwards compatible?

If not, rail at the darkness that is Intel.

re: #225 LudwigVanQuixote

And I went to that page and would have commented there how awesome it is, but the comments are closed. You did a great job!

I'm kind of sad about comments closing after a certain time. But I'm just used to forums. The discussion there can go on, and on, and on, and on. And then be necro'd later for continued fun.

Do you use deconvolution in your work?

re: #234 b_sharp

If not, rail at the darkness that is Intel.

Or cast Magic Missile at it...

:)

re: #235 prononymous

I'm kind of sad about comments closing after a certain time. But I'm just used to forums. The discussion there can go on, and on, and on, and on. And then be necro'd later for continued fun.

Do you use deconvolution in your work?

Convolutions and deconvolutions are sort of ubiquitous tools. If you think about it, any integral transform is a convolution - while you are at it, in QM, you simply can't escape them.

re: #228 LudwigVanQuixote
Thanks for the recipe. There is also a tawny port too.

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

Green hearted! Zedushka will love this!

This is from the Wisconsin history professor who's emails are being FOIA'd

wcronon Bill Cronon
by knitmomwi

I've been especially moved by this open letter to Governor Walker and Stephan Thompson by a loyal Republican voter: [Link: bit.ly...]

re: #237 LudwigVanQuixote

Good point.

re: #239 Alouette

Green hearted! Zedushka will love this!

It really came out well.

re: #236 oaktree

Or cast Magic Missile at it...

:)

A magic missile can hit Ruby on Rails?

re: #243 b_sharp

A magic missile can hit Ruby on Rails?

Well duh. It's not like it can swerve to avoid it.

re: #238 PhillyPretzel

Thanks for the recipe. There is also a tawny port too.

Ohh I like those too... I just had ruby on hand.

re: #244 prononymous

Well duh. It's not like it can swerve to avoid it.

Good point.

It's amazing how fighting with Vista can make you stupid. I have such a headache.

re: #243 b_sharp

A magic missile can hit Ruby on Rails?

Assuming you don't know the source reference:

re: #242 LudwigVanQuixote

It really came out well.

I just bought a new pressure cooker to replace the one that I have been using for 30 years. Nothing wrong with the old one, just that it was hard to clean. But this new one is totally awesome!

So far I have used it to make spaghetti sauce and beef stew.

re: #246 b_sharp

Good point.

It's amazing how fighting with Vista can make you stupid. I have such a headache.

Yeah. After my early work experience I decided to try and avoid jobs that would make me hate doing things that I previously enjoyed.