Thursday Evening Open
Here we see the late afternoon/early evening open thread, with all its glorious plumage fully displayed…
Here we see the late afternoon/early evening open thread, with all its glorious plumage fully displayed…
1 | Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:25:41pm |
Lots of hits from reddit today...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
2 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:26:58pm |
It's Spring Time, your plumage should be at it's finest!
3 | stevemcg Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:28:13pm |
I was amazed to see that it was 101 degrees in Rancho Mirage today.
4 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:28:51pm |
re: #1 Charles
Lots of hits from reddit today...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I've really come to enjoy reddit but I think LGF will probably have the same problem we had with Digg and Fark. We don't fit in politically. Reddit is full of anti-Israel hate and pro Wikileaks crap. They think Manning is a hero.
It's a great site for cool links but they're political morons.
5 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:30:52pm |
I'm having a happy spring day because we had a few hours of something resembling daylight and only minor rain today. I also found one of my frogs! he was hiding in a lavender bush and seemed quite healthy and happy.
6 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:31:11pm |
re: #1 Charles
Lots of hits from reddit today...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Choice reddit comment from the Indiana rape thread:
The solution is simple: require at least four male eyewitnesses to testify that the rape actually occurred. Be sure to give the rule a catchy name, like, say, "Sherry's Law."
7 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:31:57pm |
I'm reposting this tweet so everyone can click the twitpic!
ahmed Ahmed Al Omran
by acarvin
[PIC] Hijabi women in Tunisia are happy they can wear hijab now for their national ID photos [Link: twitpic.com...] (via @ifikra) haha!
8 | stevemcg Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:34:40pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
I'm reposting this tweet so everyone can click the twitpic!
ahmed Ahmed Al Omran
by acarvin[PIC] Hijabi women in Tunisia are happy they can wear hijab now for their national ID photos [Link: twitpic.com...] (via @ifikra) haha!
Pardon my tech igorance but how do even know they're Tunisian?
9 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:35:01pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
I'm reposting this tweet so everyone can click the twitpic!
ahmed Ahmed Al Omran
by acarvin[PIC] Hijabi women in Tunisia are happy they can wear hijab now for their national ID photos [Link: twitpic.com...] (via @ifikra) haha!
Definitely worth reposting.
10 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:35:29pm |
re: #8 stevemcg
Pardon my tech igorance but how do even know they're Tunisian?
Presumably because it was posted by
sami ben gharbia
@ifikra Bizerte | TunisiaGlobal Voices Advocacy Director - Co-founder of the Tunisian collective blog nawaat.org
[Link: samibengharbia.com...]
11 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:36:17pm |
re: #8 stevemcg
Pardon my tech igorance but how do even know they're Tunisian?
I trust Andy Carvin, that's all I know.
12 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:36:42pm |
re: #8 stevemcg
sami ben gharbia
Pardon my tech igorance but how do even know they're Tunisian?
Global Voices Advocacy Director - Co-founder of the Tunisian collective blog nawaat.org
I see no reason to doubt the pic.
13 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:37:15pm |
re: #5 Killgore Trout
Ribbit!
That's great!
14 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:37:32pm |
re: #12 Killgore Trout
I see no reason to doubt the pic.
False flag! It's all BS!!!
Holy shit, that photo is actually pretty joyous. Glass half full I guess.
15 | darthstar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:38:40pm |
re: #8 stevemcg
Pardon my tech igorance but how do even know they're Tunisian?
More important, how do they feel about partying with an infidel?
16 | Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:39:26pm |
I'm actually on the road right now, traveling the highways and byways of this great nation, in search of an honest man. Or maybe just some really good barbecue.
17 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:39:32pm |
re: #13 Floral Giraffe
Ribbit!
That's great!
I'm very relieved. I occassionally think I hear a faint croak and have found some possible frog prints in the mud near the pond but nothing definitive until today. With a little luck I'll have hundreds of them later this summer.
18 | darthstar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:41:00pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
I'm very relieved. I occassionally think I hear a faint croak and have found some possible frog prints in the mud near the pond but nothing definitive until today. With a little luck I'll have hundreds of them later this summer.
Please tell me you didn't slip some croaker a Spanish Fly...
19 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:41:36pm |
re: #16 Charles
Don't go to Carolina. That stuff sucks!
20 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:41:58pm |
re: #18 darthstar
Please tell me you didn't slip some croaker a Spanish Fly...
I figure I'll just throw some viagra in the pond.
21 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:43:11pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
I'm very relieved. I occassionally think I hear a faint croak and have found some possible frog prints in the mud near the pond but nothing definitive until today. With a little luck I'll have hundreds of them later this summer.
Yay, your amphibians survived another year. :)
22 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:43:37pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
I've really come to enjoy reddit but I think LGF will probably have the same problem we had with Digg and Fark. We don't fit in politically. Reddit is full of anti-Israel hate and pro Wikileaks crap. They think Manning is a hero.
It's a great site for cool links but they're political morons.
It doesn't matter... hits are hits... bottom line.
23 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:44:54pm |
allert allert
by acarvin
@acarvin I was in Tunisia with a metal band once. We were told not to do "the horns". Whole audience, including girls in headscarf, did. :)
24 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:45:31pm |
re: #5 Killgore Trout
I'm having a happy spring day because we had a few hours of something resembling daylight and only minor rain today. I also found one of my frogs! he was hiding in a lavender bush and seemed quite healthy and happy.
No wonder I couldn't find this comment, I was in the wrong thread. Congrats on finding the frog safe & sound!
25 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:45:32pm |
re: #16 Charles
I'm actually on the road right now, traveling the highways and byways of this great nation, in search of an honest man. Or maybe just some really good barbecue.
Central Texas. Some stereotypes are true.
26 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:45:46pm |
re: #17 Killgore Trout
I'm very relieved. I occassionally think I hear a faint croak and have found some possible frog prints in the mud near the pond but nothing definitive until today. With a little luck I'll have hundreds of them later this summer.
Here's your croak...
A $600,000 frog sculpture that lights up, gurgles "sounds of nature" and carries a 10-foot fairy girl on its back could soon be greeting Defense Department employees who plan to start working at the $700 million Mark Center in Alexandria, Va. this fall. That is unless a new controversy over the price tag of the public art doesn't torpedo the idea.
[Link: www.usnews.com...]
27 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:47:07pm |
re: #26 Walter L. Newton
What shortfall? What deficit?
28 | jaunte Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:47:49pm |
re: #16 Charles
If you get tired of driving, these guys deliver:
[Link: www.goodecompany.com...]
29 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:48:04pm |
re: #25 negativ
Well, for the barbecue part, anyway.
30 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:48:30pm |
re: #11 Stanley Sea
I trust Andy Carvin, that's all I know.
Taqq....no, wait, Carvin isn't Muslim. //
31 | McSpiff Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:49:32pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
I've really come to enjoy reddit but I think LGF will probably have the same problem we had with Digg and Fark. We don't fit in politically. Reddit is full of anti-Israel hate and pro Wikileaks crap. They think Manning is a hero.
It's a great site for cool links but they're political morons.
Nice part about reddit is you can select which subreddits or communities you follow. So i've removed /r/politics from mine. I have a couple weight loss groups, some programming, typography communities, iphone etc.
Agreed in general though, I don't go to reddit for the political commentary. Although you hit a diamond in the rough once in a while.
32 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:53:48pm |
re: #16 Charles
Here's some ideas on the food!
[Link: chowhound.chow.com...]
33 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:54:31pm |
re: #23 Stanley Sea
allert allert
by acarvin@acarvin I was in Tunisia with a metal band once. We were told not to do "the horns". Whole audience, including girls in headscarf, did. :)
Ozzfest al-Arabiya!
Featuring the dynamic musical stylings of
Black Sabbath
Slayer
King Diamond
Iron Maiden
with special guests
Type O Negative, who reveal that the whole Pete-is-dead thing was just another troll.
That needs to happen.
34 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:58:11pm |
re: #16 Charles
I'm actually on the road right now, traveling the highways and byways of this great nation, in search of an honest man. Or maybe just some really good barbecue.
Swing by Austin. I'll hook you right up. Just hurry, I'm off to the UK on wednesday, where there'll be no Q whatsoever. Hopefully, SWMBO and I won't get stuck by a Gigantic Icelandic Pain In The Ash Cloud again.
35 | prairiefire Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:58:17pm |
re: #16 Charles
I'm actually on the road right now, traveling the highways and byways of this great nation, in search of an honest man. Or maybe just some really good barbecue.
Go to Oklahoma Joe's in Kansas City.
36 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:59:15pm |
re: #34 austin_blue
Swing by Austin. I'll hook you right up. Just hurry, I'm off to the UK on wednesday, where there'll be no Q whatsoever. Hopefully, SWMBO and I won't get stuck by a Gigantic Icelandic Pain In The Ash Cloud again.
The UK?.
Which bit - thats kind of where i am................
37 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:59:43pm |
re: #16 Charles
I'm actually on the road right now, traveling the highways and byways of this great nation, in search of an honest man. Or maybe just some really good barbecue.
Artz in Austin is pretty damn good.
38 | darthstar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:00:00pm |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
I figure I'll just throw some viagra in the pond.
And put some Barry White on the outside speakers...set the mood for the little green fuckers.
39 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:00:36pm |
40 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:01:09pm |
41 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:01:10pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
I'm reposting this tweet so everyone can click the twitpic!
ahmed Ahmed Al Omran
by acarvin[PIC] Hijabi women in Tunisia are happy they can wear hijab now for their national ID photos [Link: twitpic.com...] (via @ifikra) haha!
Good looking ladies, and obviously intelligent.
42 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:02:25pm |
re: #39 austin_blue
No shit, Bubba!
there is good smoke wherever I go, and plenty right here in ABQ....bbq is so popular that if you can't find the best, you ain't lookin hard enough
43 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:02:29pm |
re: #41 b_sharp
Good looking ladies, and obviously intelligent.
This is where I get fired up. The times they are changing. The youth will not be held down like their parents were. Thanks to social media etc. I have major faith.
44 | darthstar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:02:40pm |
re: #25 negativ
Central Texas. Some stereotypes are true.
It's a little island of culture in a sea of ignorance - Austin, that is.
45 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:02:48pm |
re: #37 wozzablog
Artz in Austin is pretty damn good.
That fat smoked pork chop they do is Killer Bee. And, it's in the '04, about 1 1/2 miles from the Chez Austin_Blue.
46 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:05:34pm |
re: #31 McSpiff
Nice part about reddit is you can select which subreddits or communities you follow. So i've removed /r/politics from mine. I have a couple weight loss groups, some programming, typography communities, iphone etc.
Agreed in general though, I don't go to reddit for the political commentary. Although you hit a diamond in the rough once in a while.
It's a great site and it seems to be where all the good stuff can be found that used to be on Fark and Digg. I like the minecraft forum on reddit and trees is kinda fun too.
47 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:06:10pm |
re: #40 austin_blue
Edinburgh, Leyton Buzzard.
Enjoy your time here. Weathers alternating between sunny & cold to cloudy & cold :p
I'm in London.
48 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:08:15pm |
re: #47 wozzablog
Enjoy your time here. Weathers alternating between sunny & cold to cloudy & cold :p
I'm in London.
What're you doing in London?
49 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:12:45pm |
re: #45 austin_blue
That fat smoked pork chop they do is Killer Bee. And, it's in the '04, about 1 1/2 miles from the Chez Austin_Blue.
Swish :)
I was there last year in Feb. Sooo reasonably priced too - and live music.
I was being chauffered around everywhere by my girlfriend in San Antonio or i'd have been in touch to hook up for a beer. I was trapped in suburban san antonio.
50 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:13:21pm |
re: #48 b_sharp
What're you doing in London?
It's where all my stuff is :p
(i'm an englanger and I live here)
51 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:13:57pm |
re: #49 wozzablog
Swish :)
I was there last year in Feb. Sooo reasonably priced too - and live music.
I was being chauffered around everywhere by my girlfriend in San Antonio or i'd have been in touch to hook up for a beer. I was trapped in suburban san antonio.
I was trapped in Philly for a month one night
52 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:15:04pm |
re: #50 wozzablog
It's where all my stuff is :p
(i'm an englanger and I live here)
Hopefully I can resume my regular trips to London next year. I miss the place. Wonderful city.
53 | Varek Raith Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:15:27pm |
54 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:16:32pm |
re: #53 Varek Raith
Learning a strange language.
/
hey. That's HM the Queen's English you are maligning there buddy ;-p
56 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:17:29pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
Hopefully I can resume my regular trips to London next year. I miss the place. Wonderful city.
Will treat you to the beverage of your fancy the next time you are over for definite.
I've met a lot of bloggers from one of my previous incarnations - wuold be great to pick that trend up again,
57 | Kragar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:18:00pm |
58 | Varek Raith Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:18:18pm |
re: #54 wozzablog
hey. That's HM the Queen's English you are maligning there buddy ;-p
Hey, it's not my fault you all don't make a lick of sense!
/
59 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:18:43pm |
re: #56 wozzablog
Will treat you to the beverage of your fancy the next time you are over for definite.
I've met a lot of bloggers from one of my previous incarnations - wuold be great to pick that trend up again,
You guys even spell "would" funny.
60 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:19:06pm |
re: #56 wozzablog
Will treat you to the beverage of your fancy the next time you are over for definite.
I've met a lot of bloggers from one of my previous incarnations - wuold be great to pick that trend up again,
Nice. I'll let you know.
61 | Varek Raith Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:19:17pm |
62 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:20:14pm |
63 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:20:16pm |
64 | Kragar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:21:07pm |
65 | avanti Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:21:15pm |
The right wind blogs are losing control of the birthers again with Trumps comments. Trump was even described as Patton like in his bravery on the issue. Some moderators must have flat foreheads with all the face palms they are doing trying to turn the birther ship as it heads steaming toward the reef.
Honestly, as a leftie, I'm enjoying the show, but feel some compassion for the few sensible conservative moderators that are losing control.
66 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:21:45pm |
re: #33 negativ
Not as out of the question as one would think. There's an interesting book I read (and later bought) called Heavy Metal Islam. It's an interesting book, well worth reading.
Aside from that, can I rant about hipsters for a moment?
67 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:21:47pm |
re: #58 Varek Raith
Hey, it's not my fault you all don't make a lick of sense!
/
That's just me being me ;-)
68 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:21:58pm |
re: #56 wozzablog
Will treat you to the beverage of your fancy the next time you are over for definite.
I've met a lot of bloggers from one of my previous incarnations - wuold be great to pick that trend up again,
I've met LGF Lizards in Paris and Warsaw. And I've hosted 5 or 6 Lizards at my home in Colorado.
69 | prairiefire Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:22:06pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
Hopefully I can resume my regular trips to London next year. I miss the place. Wonderful city.
Agreed. I like to watch PBS shows for the London porn. "Love Actually" movie is London at Christmas time porn.
70 | Varek Raith Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:22:33pm |
re: #67 wozzablog
That's just me being me ;-)
It's all good.
...
Just as long as you say "roof" and not "ruff"
/Pet peeve.
:)
71 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:22:34pm |
re: #50 wozzablog
It's where all my stuff is :p
(i'm an englanger and I live here)
That's why you 'goodnight' the rest of us so early.
You live in London? Do you know ...?
73 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:25:27pm |
re: #71 b_sharp
That's why you 'goodnight' the rest of us so early.
You live in London? Do you know ...?
I do not know HM The Queen, or Dame Helen Mirren.....
74 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:26:46pm |
When I watch movies from the UK I activate the English subtitles.
75 | Varek Raith Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:27:06pm |
EPA boosts radiation monitoring after low levels found in milk
Washington (CNN) -- There is no health risk from consuming milk with extremely low levels of radiation, like those found in Washington state and California, experts said Thursday, echoing the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency."When we have a disaster like we've had with a nuclear power plant in Japan, we're probably going to find things that are truly not a public health risk, but I think it's very difficult for the public to assimilate this information and understand the risks," said Dr. Wally Curran, a radiation oncologist and head of Emory University's Winship Cancer Center.
The federal agency said Wednesday it was increasing its nationwide monitoring of radiation in milk, precipitation, drinking water, and other outlets. It already tracks radiation in those potential exposure routes through an existing network of stations across the country.
FFFRRREEEAAAKKKOOOUUUTTTT!
///
76 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:31:14pm |
re: #73 wozzablog
I do not know HM The Queen, or Dame Helen Mirren...
My daughter was in Ireland last year, and when some of the locals found out she was Canuck, one of them asked her if she knew a friend of his. The friend lived in Toronto, my daughter lives 4000 Kms west of there.
It seems wherever you go, people want to know if you know the same person they do from the same country. It's just a weird human thing.
77 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:31:37pm |
re: #44 darthstar
It's a little island of culture in a sea of ignorance - Austin, that is.
A million years ago, I dated a girl who lived in West. Yeah, there's a town called "West, Texas". Lots of descendents of Czech immigrants live there. I never bothered to talk religion & politics with them, but great googley moogley did I ever enjoy their food. For all I know, it might have consisted entirely of roadkill and dead hobos, but if so it was some damn tasty roadkill and dead hobos.
Generally, it's hard (but not impossible) to go wrong with a mom-n-pop eatery that has a German or Czech-sounding name in the Central Texas area.
78 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:34:09pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
It's a great site and it seems to be where all the good stuff can be found that used to be on Fark and Digg. I like the minecraft forum on reddit and trees is kinda fun too.
Because I am a huge retard, f7u12 cracks me up about 90% of the time.
IAmA on occasion, too, when the participants aren't trolls.
79 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:34:58pm |
re: #76 b_sharp
It seems wherever you go, people want to know if you know the same person they do from the same country. It's just a weird human thing.
Guy's sitting in a bar on Neptune. Another guys sits down beside him. They start talking, one guy says, "Where you from?" Other guy says, "Earth." First guys says, "Earth? Really? Do you know..."
80 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:35:11pm |
re: #76 b_sharp
Your from planet earth? What a coincidence, me too!
81 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:39:15pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
Hopefully I can resume my regular trips to London next year. I miss the place. Wonderful city.
We'll spend at least a day in London. Two suggestions for those visiting:
London Walks, a brilliant organization that takes you on small foot tours in various parts of town, and the West End, near Covent Garden, where unsold theater tickets are sold at half price to fill the Stages. We have seen some absolutely brilliant shows on the cheap.
82 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:39:32pm |
re: #80 prononymous
So, uh, how about that warm weather we've been having?
83 | TheAntichrist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:39:44pm |
Everyone in America should be forced, at gunpoint, to read this blog.
84 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:41:22pm |
re: #83 TheAntichrist
Why do you think that? Please elaborate!
85 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:42:01pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
It's probably sarcasm. But the ding stays until confirmation.
86 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:42:04pm |
re: #80 prononymous
Your from planet earth? What a coincidence, me too!
Cool. I had to leave when my glacier melted, and the wife found my stash of porn magazines.
87 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:42:39pm |
re: #33 negativ
Ozzfest al-Arabiya!
Featuring the dynamic musical stylings of
Black Sabbath
Slayer
King Diamond
Iron Maiden
with special guests
Type O Negative, who reveal that the whole Pete-is-dead thing was just another troll.That needs to happen.
Pete ain't dead, he's waiting
I think I've seen Type O four times live *_*
88 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:42:50pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
I think that post was pure snark.
89 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:42:54pm |
re: #82 prononymous
So, uh, how about that warm weather we've been having?
I've been making a killing exporting the excess heat to Mars.
90 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:43:06pm |
re: #65 avanti
The right wind blogs are losing control of the birthers again with Trumps comments. Trump was even described as Patton like in his bravery on the issue. Some moderators must have flat foreheads with all the face palms they are doing trying to turn the birther ship as it heads steaming toward the reef.
Honestly, as a leftie, I'm enjoying the show, but feel some compassion for the few sensible conservative moderators that are losing control.
Not me. You reap what you sow.
And if you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind.
91 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:43:25pm |
re: #74 Mr Pancakes
When I watch movies from the UK I activate the English subtitles.
totally necessary (and awesome) for Trainspotting
92 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:43:57pm |
re: #83 TheAntichrist
Benefit of the doubt ding.
93 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:45:03pm |
re: #90 austin_blue
Not me. You reap what you sow.
And if you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind.
And if you plant beans and eat them, you're gonna harvest wind also.
94 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:45:21pm |
95 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:45:30pm |
re: #81 austin_blue
We'll spend at least a day in London. Two suggestions for those visiting:
London Walks, a brilliant organization that takes you on small foot tours in various parts of town, and the West End, near Covent Garden, where unsold theater tickets are sold at half price to fill the Stages. We have seen some absolutely brilliant shows on the cheap.
The Thames path is pretty good as an unguided walk - lots of stuff to see while on it.
I'll turn my email blue if you want to email me.
96 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:46:12pm |
re: #65 avanti
The right wind blogs are losing control of the birthers again with Trumps comments. Trump was even described as Patton like in his bravery on the issue. Some moderators must have flat foreheads with all the face palms they are doing trying to turn the birther ship as it heads steaming toward the reef.
Honestly, as a leftie, I'm enjoying the show, but feel some compassion for the few sensible conservative moderators that are losing control.
Trump's purpose seems to just be riding the crazy to raise his own profile, i don't believe he cares one way or another about the birther stuff, but he knows it just lights the country on fire and everyone starts talking about DONALD FUCKING TRUMP AGAIN LIKE IT'S THE 1980S AND IVANA :(
The guy is just playing the country like a fiddle, he should run with Charlie sheen as his VP
97 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:46:21pm |
re: #94 Negativ
Yes, I am mostly harmless.
98 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:46:26pm |
re: #88 Bubblehead II
But then again........
TheAntichrist
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99 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:46:44pm |
re: #98 Bubblehead II
But then again...
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Where's the PosiChrist?
100 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:47:36pm |
re: #94 Negativ
Mostly harmless?
Humans are hired by other galactic civilizations as mercenaries to stealth destroy planetary ecologies.
101 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:48:14pm |
re: #75 Varek Raith
EPA boosts radiation monitoring after low levels found in milk
FFFRRREEEAAAKKKOOOUUUTTT!
///
Remember when we bombed two japanese cities in 1945 and then all those people on the west coast died from radiation burns?
And, and remember when we were doing above-ground tests in Nevada in the late-40's/early-50's and it wiped out Denver and killed half of Chicago?
You remember that, right? Right?
102 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:48:39pm |
re: #97 prononymous
Yes, I am mostly harmless.
If that is the case you may not be human.
You should get your DNA checked.
103 | Varek Raith Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:48:44pm |
re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Benefit of the doubt ding.
Considering the thread below, same here.
/Takes chances.
104 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:50:27pm |
re: #99 WindUpBird
Where's the PosiChrist?
Ummm wasn't he the the guy they (allegedly) crucified a couple of thousand years ago? You know, the one who is supposed to come back and make Heaven on Earth.
105 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:51:52pm |
re: #95 wozzablog
The Thames path is pretty good as an unguided walk - lots of stuff to see while on it.
I'll turn my email blue if you want to email me.
Sam Smith pubs are good, Most consistent food in town comes from Waggamamas asian restaurant chain.
106 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:55:50pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
I've really come to enjoy reddit but I think LGF will probably have the same problem we had with Digg and Fark. We don't fit in politically. Reddit is full of anti-Israel hate and pro Wikileaks crap. They think Manning is a hero.
It's a great site for cool links but they're political morons.
My husband has become addicted to Reddit, but he's not interested in politics much, so they don't seem to bother him.
108 | TheAntichrist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:56:23pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
Why do you think that? Please elaborate!
Man, when you have to explain the joke... :(
109 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:57:20pm |
110 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:57:26pm |
re: #8 stevemcg
Pardon my tech igorance but how do even know they're Tunisian?
Look at the butts. Definitely Tunisians.
//How the hell should I know? They're cute.
111 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 6:59:02pm |
re: #81 austin_blue
We'll spend at least a day in London. Two suggestions for those visiting:
London Walks, a brilliant organization that takes you on small foot tours in various parts of town, and the West End, near Covent Garden, where unsold theater tickets are sold at half price to fill the Stages. We have seen some absolutely brilliant shows on the cheap.
my favorite thing to do is visit the British Museum . there are always new exhibits and things I haven't noticed before. There's a great people watching spot in the Egypt wing. There are a ancient few manuscripts from bored students in scribe class depicting their teachers as hippos and crocodiles engaging in various sexual acts with each other. It's hilarious to stand at a distance and observe the reactions of people who notice. Many people just look and walk on, others will walk past, think about it and go back. Hours of entertainment for me.
112 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:00:59pm |
re: #111 Killgore Trout
my favorite thing to do is visit the British Museum . there are always new exhibits and things I haven't noticed before. There's a great people watching spot in the Egypt wing. There are a ancient few manuscripts from bored students in scribe class depicting their teachers as hippos and crocodiles engaging in various sexual acts with each other. It's hilarious to stand at a distance and observe the reactions of people who notice. Many people just look and walk on, others will walk past, think about it and go back. Hours of entertainment for me.
Tate Modern is tres awesome for free too. Cafe at the top floor with great views.
113 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:03:11pm |
re: #83 TheAntichrist
It figures that the Anti-Christ is a White Sox fan.
114 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:03:45pm |
115 | TheAntichrist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:03:57pm |
re: #105 wozzablog
Sam Smith pubs are good, Most consistent food in town comes from Waggamamas asian restaurant chain.
I've never been to a Sam Smith's pub, but I will tell you after a Grateful Dead show back in the early 90s the first thing I'd do was seek out someone seling the Sam Smith's oatmeal stout, in the big bottle. That beer is awesome...
116 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:05:50pm |
re: #111 Killgore Trout
my favorite thing to do is visit the British Museum . there are always new exhibits and things I haven't noticed before. There's a great people watching spot in the Egypt wing. There are a ancient few manuscripts from bored students in scribe class depicting their teachers as hippos and crocodiles engaging in various sexual acts with each other. It's hilarious to stand at a distance and observe the reactions of people who notice. Many people just look and walk on, others will walk past, think about it and go back. Hours of entertainment for me.
...and it's free admission. OMG socialism!
117 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:06:32pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
...and it's free admission. OMG socialism!
socialism is evil - but use your local libraries to educate yourselves!
118 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:06:51pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
...and it's free admission. OMG socialism!
and the london mayor is a Tory :p
119 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:07:26pm |
120 | Decatur Deb Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:08:14pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
...and it's free admission. OMG socialism!
It is the cradle of socialism:
The Reading Room opened on 2 May 1857. Between 8–16 May, the library was opened up for a special one-off public viewing. Over 62,000 visitors came to marvel at the new building.
Those wanting to use it had to apply in writing and were issued a reader’s ticket by the Principal Librarian. Among those granted tickets were: Karl Marx, Lenin (who signed in under the name Jacob Richter)
[Link: www.britishmuseum.org...]
121 | TheAntichrist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:08:40pm |
re: #113 Alouette
It figures that the Anti-Christ is a White Sox fan.
Unfortunately my father, Satan, is a Yankees fan (obviously) but he throws us a bone every 80 years or so.
122 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:09:11pm |
re: #95 wozzablog
The Thames path is pretty good as an unguided walk - lots of stuff to see while on it.
I'll turn my email blue if you want to email me.
I'll send you a note tomorrow!
123 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:11:11pm |
re: #105 wozzablog
Sam Smith pubs are good, Most consistent food in town comes from Waggamamas asian restaurant chain.
I much prefer free houses. Better selection.
124 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:11:39pm |
re: #104 Bubblehead II
Ummm wasn't he the the guy they (allegedly) crucified a couple of thousand years ago? You know, the one who is supposed to come back and make Heaven on Earth.
And spawned a whole line of jewelry and wall art?
125 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:14:06pm |
re: #123 austin_blue
I much prefer free houses. Better selection.
The Sam Smith places are all their own product - but it's a cut above.
I'm loathed to direct you to a Wetherspoon pub, but they often have a good choice of UK regional and world beers.
There are not that many good true old style freehouses left in central london. Most of the pubs serve the same few horrid lagers and palid bitters.
126 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:14:29pm |
127 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:15:03pm |
re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist
Seated at the right hand of the Father, IIRC.
Nah, I think WUB is thinking of the one that wrenches on cars.
128 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:15:42pm |
Crews 'facing 100-year battle' at Fukushima
The warning came as levels of radioactive iodine flushed into the sea near the plant spiked to a new high and the Wall Street Journal said it had obtained disaster response blueprints which said the plant's operators were woefully unprepared for the scale of the disaster.
Water is still being poured into the damaged reactors to cool melting fuel rods.
But one expert says the radiation leaks will be ongoing and it could take 50 to 100 years before the nuclear fuel rods have completely cooled and been removed.
"As the water leaks out, you keep on pouring water in, so this leak will go on for ever," said Dr John Price, a former member of the Safety Policy Unit at the UK's National Nuclear Corporation.
"There has to be some way of dealing with it. The water is connecting in tunnels and concrete-lined pits at the moment and the question is whether they can pump it back.
"The final thing is that the reactors will have to be closed and the fuel removed, and that is 50 to 100 years away.
129 | austin_blue Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:17:06pm |
re: #125 wozzablog
The Sam Smith places are all their own product - but it's a cut above.
I'm loathed to direct you to a Wetherspoon pub, but they often have a good choice of UK regional and world beers.
There are not that many good true old style freehouses left in central london. Most of the pubs serve the same few horrid lagers and palid bitters.
Well, there are a few places like The George, just south of London Bridge. You can get Green King's Abbot's there. Yummm..
130 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:20:44pm |
re: #129 austin_blue
Well, there are a few places like The George, just south of London Bridge. You can get Green King's Abbot's there. Yummm..
The Captains Cabin at the back of piccadilly circus is a place i quite like - and you can often get a table on a weeknight.
131 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:20:44pm |
re: #128 ozbloke
100 years?!?! Then there is going to be a Zone of Exclusion then? Wow. Level 7 incident.
132 | Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:21:24pm |
re: #128 ozbloke
This will be a real boon for robot technology.
133 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:21:36pm |
re: #127 Slumbering Behemoth
Nah, I think WUB is thinking of the one that wrenches on cars.
I remember when Ministry was just an 80's techno band.
134 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:23:16pm |
re: #133 Mr Pancakes
Gawd you're old.
:P
135 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:23:23pm |
re: #130 wozzablog
The Captains Cabin at the back of piccadilly circus is a place i quite like - and you can often get a table on a weeknight.
and a little off the tourist trail - [Link: www.thecharleslambpub.com...] just behind angel, islington.
136 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:24:31pm |
re: #134 Slumbering Behemoth
Gawd you're old.
:P
No kiddin' In fact I typed that and then took it out.
137 | engineer cat Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:26:27pm |
re: #125 wozzablog
The Sam Smith places are all their own product - but it's a cut above.
I'm loathed to direct you to a Wetherspoon pub, but they often have a good choice of UK regional and world beers.
There are not that many good true old style freehouses left in central london. Most of the pubs serve the same few horrid lagers and palid bitters.
there's a good reason that john smith ale is not exported to the united states
138 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:27:09pm |
re: #132 Naso Tang
This will be a real boon for robot technology.
Fortunately robots don't have families to bring up.
I fear this will have serious effects on the people of Japan for a long time to come.
139 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:28:40pm |
re: #136 Mr Pancakes
I was still playing with Transformers or something back in '83, though I had already developed a taste for the greatest threat to the free world.
140 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:32:06pm |
re: #133 Mr Pancakes
I remember when Ministry was just an 80's techno band.
Every day is Halloween
BUT THEN, EVENTUALLY
However, I prefer(red) Skinny Puppy
141 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:32:34pm |
re: #139 Slumbering Behemoth
I was still playing with Transformers or something back in '83, though I had already developed a taste for the greatest threat to the free world.
I bought the first Black Sabbath LP (Black Sabbath) on the day it was released for $3.10 and then ate some orange sunburst acid. It wasn't long before I became all-knowing.
142 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:34:13pm |
re: #137 engineer dog
there's a good reason that john smith ale is not exported to the united states
I don't find it actively unpleasent which is about the highest compliment i can pay it, but unfortunately it's my go to draught beer when the only alternatives are carling/carlsberg/fosters/etc
Sam Smiths are pretty darn good though. It's the only English lager i can drink without wanting to reflexively vomit, and their bitters are lovely too.
143 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:34:45pm |
re: #140 negativ
Every day is Halloween
BUT THEN, EVENTUALLY
[Video]
I own Filth Pig...... I love their version of Lay Lady Lay..... even though it took me multiple listens to figure out it was actually the Bob Dylan song.
144 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:36:17pm |
re: #141 Mr Pancakes
I found a long forgotten copy of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" in my mom's album collection when I was ten. It was all downhill from there.
I believe all Americans sould be forced -- forced at gunpoint no less -- to listen to every old-school Black Sabbath album.
145 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:37:12pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
Sarc implied. Don't panic all at once.
146 | Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:37:39pm |
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
So my nephew got a DUI and now in order to get his license back he has to pay the state $533.00 just for the license fee. He also has to have a "primary vehicle" with a breathalyzer interlock installed for the first six months, and carry SR-77 insurance.
It already cost me close to $3000.00 to pay for his bail and court fees/probation meeting fees/alcohol abuse classes/drivers education class.
His parents were already straining to make ends meet week to week so I helped, who else was going to? Now due to a judgement against them his parents are pretty much screwed on even being able to keep themselves afloat financially.
Anyway...the conflict is as follows:
1. he needs a car.
2. it needs a breathalyzer.
3. it needs insurance.
4. it needs monthly breathalyzer recalibrations and log downloads.
5. This is all going to be rather expensive.
6. The kid gets a DUI so I buy him a car (and insure it) to reward him?
7. If I don't how many years will it be till he can possibly afford to do this on his own?
Sigh...still just thinking about it...
148 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:39:01pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
I found a long forgotten copy of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" in my mom's album collection when I was ten. It was all downhill from there.
I believe all Americans sould be forced -- forced at gunpoint no less -- to listen to every old-school Black Sabbath album.
Right on my bother...... I'll hold them down for you.
149 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:39:42pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
Heh. Top comment at that link:
"Tony Iommis finger tips are made out of fucking soap bottles. if thats not metal I dont know what is".
Word!
150 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:40:08pm |
re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth
Sarc implied. Don't panic all at once.
Sometimes you feel like a sarc tag....... sometimes you don't.
151 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:40:29pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
So my nephew got a DUI and now in order to get his license back he has to pay the state $533.00 just for the license fee. He also has to have a "primary vehicle" with a breathalyzer interlock installed for the first six months, and carry SR-77 insurance.
It already cost me close to $3000.00 to pay for his bail and court fees/probation meeting fees/alcohol abuse classes/drivers education class.
His parents were already straining to make ends meet week to week so I helped, who else was going to? Now due to a judgement against them his parents are pretty much screwed on even being able to keep themselves afloat financially.
Anyway...the conflict is as follows:
1. he needs a car.
2. it needs a breathalyzer.
3. it needs insurance.
4. it needs monthly breathalyzer recalibrations and log downloads.
5. This is all going to be rather expensive.
6. The kid gets a DUI so I buy him a car (and insure it) to reward him?
7. If I don't how many years will it be till he can possibly afford to do this on his own?Sigh...still just thinking about it...
Tough call but I say fuck him. Tough love may serve him well in the future.
152 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:40:35pm |
re: #146 ausador
Sometimes it takes hurt to have a "learning experience".
Maybe he needs to do this on his own?
Pain makes for a great educator.
Don't be an enabler.
It'll hurt you for now, but be MUCH better for him in the long run.
Hang in there!
153 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:41:06pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
I found a long forgotten copy of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" in my mom's album collection when I was ten. It was all downhill from there.
I believe all Americans sould be forced -- forced at gunpoint no less -- to listen to every old-school Black Sabbath album.
I'd rather another listen to "Heaven and Hell" instead. For Ozzy, I'll take the all too short Randy Rhodes materials instead.
154 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:41:24pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
So my nephew got a DUI and now in order to get his license back he has to pay the state $533.00 just for the license fee. He also has to have a "primary vehicle" with a breathalyzer interlock installed for the first six months, and carry SR-77 insurance.
It already cost me close to $3000.00 to pay for his bail and court fees/probation meeting fees/alcohol abuse classes/drivers education class.
His parents were already straining to make ends meet week to week so I helped, who else was going to? Now due to a judgement against them his parents are pretty much screwed on even being able to keep themselves afloat financially.
Anyway...the conflict is as follows:
1. he needs a car.
2. it needs a breathalyzer.
3. it needs insurance.
4. it needs monthly breathalyzer recalibrations and log downloads.
5. This is all going to be rather expensive.
6. The kid gets a DUI so I buy him a car (and insure it) to reward him?
7. If I don't how many years will it be till he can possibly afford to do this on his own?Sigh...still just thinking about it...
It's admirable you do so much for your family and I would be the last one to suggest you not do so, but when is it going to be time to take care of ausador?
155 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:42:15pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
I found a long forgotten copy of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" in my mom's album collection when I was ten. It was all downhill from there.
I believe all Americans sould be forced -- forced at gunpoint no less -- to listen to every old-school Black Sabbath album.
The hair is standing up on my arms listening to that....... maybe I'll get a flashback with any luck.
156 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:42:35pm |
re: #128 ozbloke
Great link. But I doubt this will take 50 years. The Japanese will find ways. I would guess ten years tops. The article presumes people with exiting technology only. What we have now is a great need of the kind the industrious nations can rise to. Robots, new technology, real permanent storage (finally) etc. Call me an optimist.
157 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:42:51pm |
re: #154 b_sharp
It's admirable you do so much for your family and I would be the last one to suggest you not do so, but when is it going to be time to take care of ausador?
God bless you!
Ausador, are you hearing this?
I heard it from LVQ. It's hard to get out of the habit, but I'm trying.
158 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:43:24pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
So my nephew got a DUI and now in order to get his license back he has to pay the state $533.00 just for the license fee. He also has to have a "primary vehicle" with a breathalyzer interlock installed for the first six months, and carry SR-77 insurance.
It already cost me close to $3000.00 to pay for his bail and court fees/probation meeting fees/alcohol abuse classes/drivers education class.
His parents were already straining to make ends meet week to week so I helped, who else was going to? Now due to a judgement against them his parents are pretty much screwed on even being able to keep themselves afloat financially.
Anyway...the conflict is as follows:
1. he needs a car.
2. it needs a breathalyzer.
3. it needs insurance.
4. it needs monthly breathalyzer recalibrations and log downloads.
5. This is all going to be rather expensive.
6. The kid gets a DUI so I buy him a car (and insure it) to reward him?
7. If I don't how many years will it be till he can possibly afford to do this on his own?Sigh...still just thinking about it...
You need to give to him.
I suggest a timetable for public transport would be a good start.
159 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:43:40pm |
re: #155 Mr Pancakes
The hair is standing up on my arms listening to that... maybe I'll get a flashback with any luck.
Flashbacks only occur at the worst possible time, never when you want one.
160 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:43:52pm |
re: #153 wlewisiii
I'd rather another listen to "Heaven and Hell" instead. For Ozzy, I'll take the all too short Randy Rhodes materials instead.
Certainly a well respected Black Sabbath album........ I jumped ship when Dio arrived.
161 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:44:24pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
Why does he need a car? Bus, taxi, bicycle, his own two feet. Sorry, you've already enough for him x 3k.
162 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:44:40pm |
re: #146 ausador
I'm with Kilgore on this. DUIs are serious fucking business, and he's damn lucky he didn't get anyone killed. He should think about that while hoofing it 'til he can resolve this himself.
163 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:44:43pm |
re: #156 Rightwingconspirator
Great link. But I doubt this will take 50 years. The Japanese will find ways. I would guess ten years tops. The article presumes people with exiting technology only. What we have now is a great need of the kind the industrious nations can rise to. Robots, new technology, real permanent storage (finally) etc. Call me an optimist.
Your an optimist.
G-d I hope your right.
164 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:46:07pm |
re: #162 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm with Kilgore on this. DUIs are serious fucking business, and he's damn lucky he didn't get anyone killed. He should think about that while hoofing it 'til he can resolve this himself.
/ He could move to Montana, I hear they have some upcoming legislation...
165 | Obdicut Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:46:59pm |
re: #146 ausador
I don't like people who drive while drunk. It's like firing randomly into the air.
Get him a bike.
166 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:47:19pm |
re: #146 ausador
You're a good guy, but he needs to feel his own mistake.
(Full confessions here: I watched my parents have to learn what you are learning with not one but two siblings who were drug addicts.)*
*We don't do anything halfway in my family. When my siblings rebel, they REBEL.
167 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:47:44pm |
re: #146 ausador
He has to learn to stand responsibility for his actions.
You can't always "be there" for him.
He has some growing up to do.
It should be as positive, as you can make it.
HE has to do the work, or he won't learn the lesson.
I hope this helps!
168 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:48:06pm |
re: #163 ozbloke
Your an optimist.
G-d I hope your right.
Necessity has been called the mother of invention for a reason. It's only when we're backed into a corner we create a revolution, in modern times that has been technology.
169 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:48:07pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
So my nephew got a DUI and now in order to get his license back he has to pay the state $533.00 just for the license fee. He also has to have a "primary vehicle" with a breathalyzer interlock installed for the first six months, and carry SR-77 insurance.
It already cost me close to $3000.00 to pay for his bail and court fees/probation meeting fees/alcohol abuse classes/drivers education class.
His parents were already straining to make ends meet week to week so I helped, who else was going to? Now due to a judgement against them his parents are pretty much screwed on even being able to keep themselves afloat financially.
Anyway...the conflict is as follows:
1. he needs a car.
2. it needs a breathalyzer.
3. it needs insurance.
4. it needs monthly breathalyzer recalibrations and log downloads.
5. This is all going to be rather expensive.
6. The kid gets a DUI so I buy him a car (and insure it) to reward him?
7. If I don't how many years will it be till he can possibly afford to do this on his own?Sigh...still just thinking about it...
He gets off easy if you do this for him. Trouble ahead, guaranteed.
170 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:49:08pm |
re: #159 b_sharp
Flashbacks only occur at the worst possible time, never when you want one.
I dunno .... I've been waiting about 40 years for one.
171 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:49:09pm |
re: #169 Stanley Sea
He gets off easy if you do this for him. Trouble ahead, guaranteed.
The more trouble ahead, the sooner he learns!
Hard lessons are good teachers!
(*waves*)
172 | Obdicut Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:51:00pm |
re: #171 Floral Giraffe
When people are determined to fuck up their own life, there's often very little you can do except get out of the way.
173 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:51:15pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
I found a long forgotten copy of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" in my mom's album collection when I was ten. It was all downhill from there.
I believe all Americans sould be forced -- forced at gunpoint no less -- to listen to every old-school Black Sabbath album.
"Son/Daughter, witness some stoners from Birmingham inventing a musical idiom that would eventually come to be known as 'heavy metal'"
Of course, that probably sounds like crusty old-person music to The Kids These Days, who then go off and read interviews with Justin Bieber wherein he says he thinks he's the Kurt Cobain of his generation.
174 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:51:39pm |
re: #160 Mr Pancakes
Certainly a well respected Black Sabbath album... I jumped ship when Dio arrived.
I liked the Dio era Sabbath. Their sound certainly changed a bit with his arrival, but it's still cool stuff. Definitely prefer the Ozzy era, though.
175 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:51:48pm |
re: #170 Mr Pancakes
I dunno ... I've been waiting about 40 years for one.
I've had two, one while driving a car, the other while talking to my dad. Neither lasted more than about 15 or 20 seconds, but freaked me out big time. The last acid I dropped was in '74.
176 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:53:20pm |
re: #172 Obdicut
When people are determined to fuck up their own life, there's often very little you can do except get out of the way.
That's so very true.
177 | Girth Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:53:47pm |
re: #173 negativ
Of course, that probably sounds like crusty old-person music to The Kids These Days, who then go off and read interviews with Justin Bieber wherein he says he thinks he's the Kurt Cobain of his generation.
I was willing to ignore that kid. Now he might have to have an accident.
178 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:53:50pm |
re: #168 b_sharp
Necessity has been called the mother of invention for a reason. It's only when we're backed into a corner we create a revolution, in modern times that has been technology.
I admire that, and to a degree I understand it.
If it were the wheel, or a toaster who would care, but what effect will years of leakage bring?
In that article it says:
"Both experts agree capping the damaged reactors with concrete is not an option."
I don't understand that, any views, as this is what was done in Chernobyl.
I thought that capping it was going to be what they ended up doing, if thats off the table, what is the solution?
179 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:54:24pm |
re: #173 negativ
"Son/Daughter, witness some stoners from Birmingham inventing a musical idiom that would eventually come to be known as 'heavy metal'"
[Video]Of course, that probably sounds like crusty old-person music to The Kids These Days, who then go off and read interviews with Justin Bieber wherein he says he thinks he's the Kurt Cobain of his generation.
As a perfume fan, I am familiar with this. Kids These Days smell outrageously daring and beautiful perfumes of an earlier age...Shalimar, Chanel No. 22, Coty Chypre...and murmur "eau de old lady at church".
180 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:54:26pm |
re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth
I liked the Dio era Sabbath. Their sound certainly changed a bit with his arrival, but it's still cool stuff. Definitely prefer the Ozzy era, though.
I guess it was a Dio thing with me........ I liked Rainbow better after he left.
182 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:55:37pm |
re: #177 Girth
Of course, that probably sounds like crusty old-person music to The Kids These Days, who then go off and read interviews with Justin Bieber wherein he says he thinks he's the Kurt Cobain of his generation.
I was willing to ignore that kid. Now he might have to have an accident.
dude
183 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:56:04pm |
Hey Flo Girl! Hope you are having a great night.
I've got the cold. 2nd time around. Living with sick peeps in this house, then going to hang out with sick peeps at the office.
Oh, and my backspace just died on my barely hanging on laptop. :)
184 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:56:57pm |
re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth
I liked the Dio era Sabbath. Their sound certainly changed a bit with his arrival, but it's still cool stuff. Definitely prefer the Ozzy era, though.
185 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:57:14pm |
re: #165 Obdicut
I've been a pretty stubborn SOB in my life, having to learn things the hard way quite often. When it comes to drunk driving, that's one lesson I was able to learn from the mistakes of others.
186 | webevintage Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:58:06pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
How old is he?
Does he need a car to get to work and/or school?
(where we live there is no public transportation so you need to be able to drive or ride with someone to go anywhere)
Can a schedule be worked out where he can get rides to where he needs to go instead of driving himself or to the closest public transportation?
BTW, it really is kind of you to be willing to help out your family....
187 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:58:51pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: GAhh...I'm a bit conflicted.
You are being too nice about it. Unless there is some reallllllllllllly good reason he needs a car where he lives, I'd say you shouldn't give him one. It'd basically be rewarding bad behavior.
He can pedal a bike to work at whatever job he can get, save up and pay you back, and then buy his own car. The most I'd buy him after bailing out a DUI would be a bus pass.
188 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:59:38pm |
wow
thedeadhandbook David E. Hoffman
These are amazing photos. RT @plutoniumpage: Crystal-clear, high-res images of the Fukushima #nuclear complex: [Link: bit.ly...]
189 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:59:52pm |
re: #186 webevintage
How old is he?
Does he need a car to get to work and/or school?
(where we live there is no public transportation so you need to be able to drive or ride with someone to go anywhere)
Can a schedule be worked out where he can get rides to where he needs to go instead of driving himself or to the closest public transportation?BTW, it really is kind of you to be willing to help out your family...
I'M not sure bailing out is akin to helping out.
190 | webevintage Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:01:05pm |
BTW....
UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS
I hope I did not scar anyone.....
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
191 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:01:07pm |
re: #178 ozbloke
I admire that, and to a degree I understand it.
If it were the wheel, or a toaster who would care, but what effect will years of leakage bring?
In that article it says:
"Both experts agree capping the damaged reactors with concrete is not an option."I don't understand that, any views, as this is what was done in Chernobyl.
I thought that capping it was going to be what they ended up doing, if thats off the table, what is the solution?
I thought they were contemplating a synthetic covering.
This is serious shit, no doubt about it, and it may be several years, if not decades, before anything satisfactory is done about it, but our technology is beyond what we had with Chernobyl, so we should be in a better situation now than then.
We have to at least try to find a technological solution.
192 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:01:21pm |
re: #180 Mr Pancakes
He had a good metal voice, but the majority of his lyrics were soaked in that "high fantasy" crap that your average metal head just isn't into.
193 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:01:22pm |
re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist
See if you can find "Gendarme" if you're a perfume fan.
Clean, nice, fragrance. I think you'd like it.
194 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:01:37pm |
re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist
As a perfume fan, I am familiar with this. Kids These Days smell outrageously daring and beautiful perfumes of an earlier age...Shalimar, Chanel No. 22, Coty Chypre...and murmur "eau de old lady at church".
[un]fortunately, I'm not comfortable analytically snorting the individual aromas of kids.
195 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:02:14pm |
re: #183 Stanley Sea
*smooch*
Bummer on the cold & the sick peeps.
196 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:02:26pm |
re: #189 Mr Pancakes
I'M not sure bailing out is akin to helping out.
Well, basically, plus, he was helping with expenses before this happened.
@ausador, I think that it has to come down to whether you can actually afford this, how penitent you think the kid is, how old he is, and whether he can manage on a bike or the bus.
Balance those out, and I think you'll have an answer.
197 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:04:11pm |
re: #191 b_sharp
I thought they were contemplating a synthetic covering.
This is serious shit, no doubt about it, and it may be several years, if not decades, before anything satisfactory is done about it, but our technology is beyond what we had with Chernobyl, so we should be in a better situation now than then.
We have to at least try to find a technological solution.
I'm guessing to that the tunnels leading to the ocean are going to be an issue if this goes on a long time.
Honestly, I thought burying them was our technological solution.
198 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:04:14pm |
re: #190 webevintage
BTW...
UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS
I hope I did not scar anyone...[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
I posted that article to Facebook. I now have about six very respectable women, soccer moms, lawyers, a college kid who wears hijab and the like, all experimentally posting "UTERUS!!" "VAGINA!!" "VAS DEFERENS!" and the like to my Facebook page, and giggling about how bad they are.
199 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:05:06pm |
re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist
I posted that article to Facebook. I now have about six very respectable women, soccer moms, lawyers, a college kid who wears hijab and the like, all experimentally posting "UTERUS!!" "VAGINA!!" "VAS DEFERENS!" and the like to my Facebook page, and giggling about how bad they are.
LOL!
They are bad!
Bad to the, uh, bone?
200 | webevintage Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:05:21pm |
201 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:05:21pm |
DUI is incredibly serious - we are not talking about a parking violation here.
I agree with the sentiment that unless it is vital for terms of getting to a job and even then all other routes will have to have been exhausted - get the kid a bike or a bus pass.
202 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:06:25pm |
re: #201 wozzablog
DUI is evidence of a lack of respect for oneself and of others.
It is very serious.
203 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:06:49pm |
re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist
I doubt that many of the panty wadded ninnies in congress know what a vas deferens is, so that one is probably pretty safe.
204 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:07:46pm |
re: #178 ozbloke
Perhaps the opposite of a cap. They need a new eon after eon durable floor. The air is one thing to protect. The groundwater and sea is another. They may need to put a perfect concrete/lead/airtight floor under the whole mess. Or move the whole damn core to Yucca Mountain or some equivalent.
205 | Girth Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:08:01pm |
re: #190 webevintage
BTW...
UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS UTERUS
I hope I did not scar anyone...[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
I think that if I were in that situation I would ask once, "Seriously, you're offended by the mention of the word 'uterus'?"
I would then launch into the most foul rendition of The Aristocrats that I could manage.
206 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:08:54pm |
re: #205 Girth
I think that if I were in that situation I would ask once, "Seriously, you're offended by the mention of the word 'uterus'?"
I would then launch into the most foul rendition of The Aristocrats that I could manage.
Mammary Gland. Fallopian tube.
207 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:09:54pm |
re: #201 wozzablog
DUI is incredibly serious - we are not talking about a parking violation here.
I agree with the sentiment that unless it is vital for terms of getting to a job and even then all other routes will have to have been exhausted - get the kid a bike or a bus pass.
I'm even dubious that in this job market an employer would look twice at someone with a DUI who needs a car to get to work.
208 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:10:11pm |
209 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:10:24pm |
re: #199 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
They are bad!
Bad to the, uh, bone?
Good one, you beat me to it.
BTW, my wife's jewellery store is going to be called 'Bead to the Bone'.
210 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:10:51pm |
re: #202 Floral Giraffe
DUI is evidence of a lack of respect for oneself and of others.
It is very serious.
Yep..... I must admit that as a youngin' (many many years ago) I didn't care. I have a screw through my knee to testify to my stupidity...... One cool thing though, I can predict the weather!
Motorcycles and Mad Dog 20/20 do not mix.
211 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:12:00pm |
re: #205 Girth
They hate science, so I guess it's not much of a stretch for them hate proper scientific terms.
212 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:12:34pm |
re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth
They hate science, so I guess it's not much of a stretch for them hate proper scientific terms.
They're all pussies.
213 | Girth Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:12:41pm |
re: #205 Girth
I think that if I were in that situation I would ask once, "Seriously, you're offended by the mention of the word 'uterus'?"
I would then launch into the most foul rendition of The Aristocrats that I could manage.
Or get an anatomy textbook and seek clarification on what are good body parts and which are the unmentionables.
214 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:13:21pm |
Okies peeps. I can't wait for this malware scan to finish any longer, been up whomever alone knows how long already today and workmen starting in the house in less than 5 hours.
G'night all.
215 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:13:41pm |
re: #212 b_sharp
Sir, the proper term is "vagina". Say it with me... Va-Gi-Na.
216 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:13:44pm |
re: #204 Rightwingconspirator
Perhaps the opposite of a cap. They need a new eon after eon durable floor. The air is one thing to protect. The groundwater and sea is another. They may need to put a perfect concrete/lead/airtight floor under the whole mess. Or move the whole damn core to Yucca Mountain or some equivalent.
I struggle to see how it could be moved and kept cool at the same time, not for many years at least.
It would seem that they will shut that plant, however the loss of that plant for electricity generation to Japan will have significant effects on manufacturing and therefore their economy.
They are also expecting a greater requirement of electrical generation in June / July because of whether.
I like optimism, but reality sometimes sucks.
,
217 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:14:59pm |
re: #213 Girth
Or get an anatomy textbook and seek clarification on what are good body parts and which are the unmentionables.
Anything that can turn a good good fearing kid into a raging sexual pervert is unacceptable.
Phalanges is one of the worst.
218 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:15:26pm |
I can understand vulgar slang terms being offensive, but really, proper medical terms?
220 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:16:16pm |
re: #214 wozzablog
Okies peeps. I can't wait for this malware scan to finish any longer, been up whomever alone knows how long already today and workmen starting in the house in less than 5 hours.
G'night all.
Get some sleep.
221 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:16:31pm |
Which reminds me, I must remember that I should refer to the limbs of a table, not the legs.
Too suggestive, otherwise.
(Or, as Abigail would have said, the leggs of the table.)
222 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:16:43pm |
Seriously. Are we gonna start seeing written legislation containing terms like "Hoo-Hoo Diddle" and "Va-Jay Jay"?
223 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:17:13pm |
re: #146 ausador
My nic is blue, if you want someone to email with.
Maybe talk to.
224 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:18:28pm |
re: #221 EmmmieG
OMG, we're going back to the Victorian age, when things like "legs" are verboten out loud. Between "gentlemen the words were OK."
GAH
225 | Obdicut Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:18:34pm |
re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth
Seriously. Are we gonna start seeing written legislation containing terms like "Hoo-Hoo Diddle" and "Va-Jay Jay"?
Patton Oswalt has a good bit on this:
Warning: This is incredibly not safe for work. Incredibly.
226 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:18:43pm |
re: #217 b_sharp
Anything that can turn a good good fearing kid into a raging sexual pervert is unacceptable.
Phalanges is one of the worst.
227 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:19:11pm |
re: #5 Killgore Trout
I'm having a happy spring day because we had a few hours of something resembling daylight and only minor rain today. I also found one of my frogs! he was hiding in a lavender bush and seemed quite healthy and happy.
Just watch out for the Bullfrogs:
228 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:19:25pm |
re: #205 Girth
I think that if I were in that situation I would ask once, "Seriously, you're offended by the mention of the word 'uterus'?"
I would then launch into the most foul rendition of The Aristocrats that I could manage.
a nobile pursuit if ever there was one.
229 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:20:29pm |
re: #221 EmmmieG
Heh. I recall a conversation I had with a certain relative of the fundie persuasion. The topic of discussion regarded how the number one concern among Americans ~100 years ago was food purity.
I guess I used the term "unmolested" to refer to pure foods one to many times, because I got a very frustrated "Stop using that word!" spit at me.
230 | Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:21:14pm |
re: #154 b_sharp
It's admirable you do so much for your family and I would be the last one to suggest you not do so, but when is it going to be time to take care of ausador?
I am, I go see the lawyer again tomorrow about the estate, worst case I figure I'll eventually walk away with about $60-65,000 as my share after we satisfy the medical bills. Even if I end up with less it will still be enough to reimburse me for anything I have spent helping out on legal fees or DUI's or estate maintenance...
In the meantime I have a small solid black cat who "talks" constantly, plays goofily, frisks about chasing imaginary fiends, and contributes vastly to my sanity. :)
231 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:21:57pm |
re: #224 Floral Giraffe
OMG, we're going back to the Victorian age, when things like "legs" are verboten out loud. Between "gentlemen the words were OK."
GAH
Queen Victoria had a lady in waiting who began to bulge supiciously. The woman absolutely denied she was pregnant. She agreed to an examination by a doctor. With her clothes on.
Tragically, she was correct. It was a tumor, not a baby, and she died somewhat later.
232 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:23:24pm |
re: #213 Girth
Or get an anatomy textbook and seek clarification on what are good body parts and which are the unmentionables.
"Kneecaps, Mr. Speaker. Is it acceptable for me to mention kneecaps on the floor of the House?"
233 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:24:33pm |
re: #227 Dark_Falcon
Just watch out for the Bullfrogs:
[Video]
Bach cello suite #1 doesn't give a shit!
234 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:24:42pm |
re: #232 SanFranciscoZionist
"Kneecaps, Mr. Speaker. Is it acceptable for me to mention kneecaps on the floor of the House?"
No. Too close to the thigh. Try mentioning the patella instead.
235 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:25:15pm |
Today was stressful, but it ended well. I got the big sale I was hoping for at work. Got me a big commission and it means keeps me out of the doghouse at work. So it turned out to be a great day.
236 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:25:49pm |
re: #230 ausador
I am, I go see the lawyer again tomorrow about the estate, worst case I figure I'll eventually walk away with about $60-65,000 as my share after we satisfy the medical bills. Even if I end up with less it will still be enough to reimburse me for anything I have spent helping out on legal fees or DUI's or estate maintenance...
In the meantime I have a small solid black cat who "talks" constantly, plays goofily, frisks about chasing imaginary fiends, and contributes vastly to my sanity. :)
Friends are important. I had a little, rather neotenous, solid black cat companion for 16 years. She was my bud.
I'm glad you have a playmate.
237 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:26:09pm |
re: #232 SanFranciscoZionist
"Kneecaps, Mr. Speaker. Is it acceptable for me to mention kneecaps on the floor of the House?"
Only if you are willing to put on knee-pads.
238 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:26:29pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
Today was stressful, but it ended well. I got the big sale I was hoping for at work. Got me a big commission and it means keeps me out of the doghouse at work. So it turned out to be a great day.
Good on you Dark.
239 | jaunte Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:26:56pm |
re: #205 Girth
Republicans voiced concern about young pages hearing the word uterus.
The Bermuda Triangle must be warping time back to the 50's again.
240 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:27:02pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
Today was stressful, but it ended well. I got the big sale I was hoping for at work. Got me a big commission and it means keeps me out of the doghouse at work. So it turned out to be a great day.
Good to hear D_F. :)
241 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:27:46pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
Huzzah! Since I know you don't partake, I will consume a double helping of cheap beer in your honor tonight in celebration.
242 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:28:19pm |
re: #232 SanFranciscoZionist
"Kneecaps, Mr. Speaker. Is it acceptable for me to mention kneecaps on the floor of the House?"
Yes, but don't go any higher!
LOL!
243 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:28:46pm |
re: #239 jaunte
The Bermuda Triangle must be warping time back to the 50's again.
The 1750s, it would seem.
244 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:28:47pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
Today was stressful, but it ended well. I got the big sale I was hoping for at work. Got me a big commission and it means keeps me out of the doghouse at work. So it turned out to be a great day.
WOOT!
Congratulations!
245 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:28:56pm |
Some good news, about time.
Facebook shuts down page calling for intifada
Social networking site Facebook says it made a decision in line with its policies when it shut down a page calling for a third intifada, or uprising, against Israel.
The decision came after Israeli officials urged the site's founder Mark Zuckerberg to delete the page which had nearly 500,000 fans.
Initially members of the page called for peaceful protests over Israel's treatment of Palestinians but later comments made direct calls for violence.
Israeli public diplomacy minister Yuli Edelstein wrote to Facebook urging the page be closed on the grounds of incitement.
In its reply to Israel, Facebook said in general it is loathe to remove pages that express criticism and instead only removed posts that incite violence.
But after repeated warnings that it violated Facebook's own policies, the page was shut down.
246 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:29:07pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
Today was stressful, but it ended well. I got the big sale I was hoping for at work. Got me a big commission and it means keeps me out of the doghouse at work. So it turned out to be a great day.
Great DF........You are only as good as your last sale............ no time to rest..... tomorrow is April Fools Day.
247 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:29:42pm |
re: #243 Slumbering Behemoth
The 1750s, it would seem.
The 1750's were much baudier than the 1880's.
248 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:29:51pm |
249 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:30:10pm |
Hey Dark_Falcon, I don't know if you saw it but I did a little bit of research to answer your question from last night.
Of course it isn't quite the same as a simple screw in bulb. The replacement would have to be done by an electrician, or you could do it yourself if you are handy enough. But once installed you could help save the earth, money, and US economy simultaneously. :)
250 | b_sharp Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:30:10pm |
If someone will lock the back door after me, I'm going to make a run for it.
Later peeps.
251 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:31:46pm |
re: #250 b_sharp
If someone will lock the back door after me, I'm going to make a run for it.
Later peeps.
Is it raining, snowing, or is there gunfire? Goodnight B.
252 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:32:19pm |
re: #251 Mr Pancakes
Woman with a knife, perhaps?
253 | Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:33:25pm |
re: #249 prononymous
Hey Dark_Falcon, I don't know if you saw it but I did a little bit of research to answer your question from last night.
Of course it isn't quite the same as a simple screw in bulb. The replacement would have to be done by an electrician, or you could do it yourself if you are handy enough. But once installed you could help save the earth, money, and US economy simultaneously. :)
That's nice, but the truth is I don't blame the Chinese for making our lighting. I blame us for not being able to make the robots to do it for ourselves. //
254 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:34:25pm |
re: #253 Naso Tang
That's nice, but the truth is I don't blame the Chinese for making our lighting. I blame us for not being able to make the robots to do it for ourselves. //
Actually watch the interview. The CEO has some interesting thoughts regarding this.
255 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:34:29pm |
re: #249 prononymous
Hey Dark_Falcon, I don't know if you saw it but I did a little bit of research to answer your question from last night.
Of course it isn't quite the same as a simple screw in bulb. The replacement would have to be done by an electrician, or you could do it yourself if you are handy enough. But once installed you could help save the earth, money, and US economy simultaneously. :)
Interesting. Thank you for finding that.
256 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:35:54pm |
re: #245 ozbloke
Some good news, about time.
Facebook shuts down page calling for intifada
Social networking site Facebook says it made a decision in line with its policies when it shut down a page calling for a third intifada, or uprising, against Israel.
The decision came after Israeli officials urged the site's founder Mark Zuckerberg to delete the page which had nearly 500,000 fans.
Initially members of the page called for peaceful protests over Israel's treatment of Palestinians but later comments made direct calls for violence.
Israeli public diplomacy minister Yuli Edelstein wrote to Facebook urging the page be closed on the grounds of incitement.
In its reply to Israel, Facebook said in general it is loathe to remove pages that express criticism and instead only removed posts that incite violence.
But after repeated warnings that it violated Facebook's own policies, the page was shut down.
I'm glad that page was taken down. Once a website crosses the line into incitement, then its being shut down is appropriate. Free Speech does not include incitement.
257 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:36:40pm |
re: #253 Naso Tang
That's nice, but the truth is I don't blame the Chinese for making our lighting. I blame us for not being able to make the robots to do it for ourselves. //
They would have the same robots (built by us)..... and their handlers do it cheaper.
258 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:38:47pm |
re: #249 prononymous
Cool stuff. I'm still waiting for us to enter the 21st century, though.
/
259 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:38:59pm |
Well, I’m finally home after spending 4 months as a snowbird in the deserts of Arizona. I’d like to share some observations I had during the trip.
As I was driving on I-5 in Washington I saw some orange signs warning of an “Ecology Crew Ahead”. My immediate thought was this is really cool. The State must be out inventorying noxious weeds on the road side or maybe counting tweetie birds or something like that. About ¼ mile later I saw a stack of full white plastic bags labeled “Washington Dept. of Ecology”. It wasn’t much further when I observed 6-8 people in orange jump-suits putting roadside trash into those white trash bags. I was very disappointed but I guess I did learn where Ecologists get their training and experience.
I made a visit to Los Algodones, Mexico (near Yuma, AZ) to check out the low cost pharmacies. Yes it’s true; you can get low cost medications without a prescription in Mexico. For example, a Z-Pack (used to combat infections) cost a grand total of $3.99 for the 6 pills. My experience with Z-packs in the US is to pay $60-80 for one treatment even with insurance.
Now the funny part. I purchased 10 Z-Packs. The Pharmacy Technician (Clerk) told me that 10 treatments would be too much to take across the border. So she opened all the bottles and combined 10 bottles into 5. She said the US Border Patrol would let 5 bottles cross the border. Try that in the US.
Checking the large parking lot on the US side of the border I estimated at least 30% of the vehicles were from Canada. They were probably in Los Algodones for dental treatments. There were at least 25 dental offices within 3 blocks of the border. I was told that the cost of dental treatments in Mexico was about 25% of what they cost in the US. They also have very inexpensive optometrists and eye glasses.
I was camped out in the desert and was able to enjoy the peace and quite. I could only get wifi when I went to the laundromat. Just enough internet access to pay the bills.
260 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:39:02pm |
re: #255 Dark_Falcon
Interesting. Thank you for finding that.
When you asked it was a question I felt was quite relevant to today, so I had to find out for myself as well. I only knew about them because I am planning on using some of their high power LEDs. Amazing technology. Not quite as efficient as the top Cree LEDs, but they are competitive ( easily beating most fluorescents) and they have a high wattage range that not many companies even remotely approach.
261 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:43:20pm |
re: #253 Naso Tang
That's nice, but the truth is I don't blame the Chinese for making our lighting. I blame us for not being able to make the robots to do it for ourselves. //
No one is 'blaming' anyone. My father simply sees China as a strategic rival and consequentially does not wish to buy from them while they maintain a strong trade imbalance with us.
262 | engineer cat Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:43:32pm |
re: #248 Killgore Trout
Bach - Cello Suite No.1 i-Prelude
[Video]
Namaste, y'all
i got to see janos starker perform this when i was a kid
263 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:43:39pm |
re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist
I posted that article to Facebook. I now have about six very respectable women, soccer moms, lawyers, a college kid who wears hijab and the like, all experimentally posting "UTERUS!!" "VAGINA!!" "VAS DEFERENS!" and the like to my Facebook page, and giggling about how bad they are.
Has anyone been brave enough for the ultimate CLITORIS?
Heh, I just uterus uterus uterus'd on twitter. What a crock of shit. Women, endangered species.
264 | engineer cat Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:44:09pm |
re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth
Cool stuff. I'm still waiting for us to enter the 21st century, though.
/
not scheduled until 2018 at the earliest
265 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:44:50pm |
re: #261 Dark_Falcon
No one is 'blaming' anyone. My father simply sees China as a strategic rival and consequentially does not wish to buy from them while they maintain a strong trade imbalance with us.
IMO, it goes something like: It's not their fault we have become economically stupid.
266 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:45:43pm |
re: #263 Stanley Sea
Has anyone been brave enough for the ultimate CLITORIS?
That depends. How big is it?
/
267 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:46:11pm |
re: #259 Cheechako
Well, I’m finally home after spending 4 months as a snowbird in the deserts of Arizona. I’d like to share some observations I had during the trip.
I made a visit to Los Algodones, Mexico (near Yuma, AZ) to check out the low cost pharmacies. Yes it’s true; you can get low cost medications without a prescription in Mexico. For example, a Z-Pack (used to combat infections) cost a grand total of $3.99 for the 6 pills. My experience with Z-packs in the US is to pay $60-80 for one treatment even with insurance.
Now the funny part. I purchased 10 Z-Packs. The Pharmacy Technician (Clerk) told me that 10 treatments would be too much to take across the border. So she opened all the bottles and combined 10 bottles into 5. She said the US Border Patrol would let 5 bottles cross the border. Try that in the US.
Be careful when buying or bringing pharmaceuticals to the US from Mexico....... there are many horror stories to be told.
268 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:46:34pm |
re: #263 Stanley Sea
LOL!
You ROCK, Lady!
269 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:46:47pm |
270 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:47:33pm |
re: #267 Mr Pancakes
I'm aware of that. These medications were made by a reputable pharmacy company.
271 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:48:17pm |
re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth
Enough to be fun!
272 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:48:48pm |
re: #265 prononymous
IMO, it goes something like: It's not their fault we have become economically stupid.
He'd agree with that. But he'd also add that just because others are stupid does not mean he should be. I'm not sure if he'll like the idea of needing to do the kind of work needed to support those LEDs, but he will be glad to hear that there's a US firm making them in the USA.
273 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:49:12pm |
re: #270 Cheechako
I'm aware of that. These medications were made by a reputable pharmacy company.
I know..... but when you start combining stuff up to get through the line it's risky
274 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:51:25pm |
275 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:51:47pm |
re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth
That depends. How big is it?
/
As the Flower folks say, size is only 10 points!
276 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:52:45pm |
re: #273 Mr Pancakes
I know... but when you start combining stuff up to get through the line it's risky
Each bottle contained 1 treatment of 6 pills. All the tech did was to combine 2 treatments into one bottle.
277 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:53:31pm |
278 | Girth Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:54:00pm |
279 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:54:04pm |
re: #272 Dark_Falcon
He'd agree with that. But he'd also add that just because others are stupid does not mean he should be. I'm not sure if he'll like the idea of needing to do the kind of work needed to support those LEDs, but he will be glad to hear that there's a US firm making them in the USA.
I imagined the work needed to install the modules might be a turnoff. But it really isn't that hard. And once you have them installed they last a really long time.
I have no idea if they plan to make a standard screw-in module but I'll let you know when they do, if you want me to.
280 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:54:12pm |
re: #277 Stanley Sea
LOL!
It;s a kids fantasy image.
Look if you like!
281 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:54:57pm |
re: #216 ozbloke
I struggle to see how it could be moved and kept cool at the same time, not for many years at least.
It would seem that they will shut that plant, however the loss of that plant for electricity generation to Japan will have significant effects on manufacturing and therefore their economy.
They are also expecting a greater requirement of electrical generation in June / July because of whether.
I like optimism, but reality sometimes sucks.
,
Reality is also the strongest teacher. In any case will we have a chance to discuss my prediction in ten years? If you can find me and I'm wrong I'll buy the drinks. Hell if you can find me in a decade and I'm right I'll buy. :-)>
282 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:55:05pm |
283 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:55:55pm |
re: #280 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
It;s a kids fantasy image.
Look if you like!
hahaha.
gah where I took the threAD. And yes, backspace is toast.
284 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:56:06pm |
285 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:56:32pm |
re: #276 Cheechako
Each bottle contained 1 treatment of 6 pills. All the tech did was to combine 2 treatments into one bottle.
my older sis and her hubby spend 6mo winters in Yuma...they just love that area and buy lots of exotic meds in Mexico...they have never been burned...and my BinL had some fancy bridge work done there ultra cheap, and it was high quality workmanship...I can't even go down to Palomas anymore, it's way too dangerous
286 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:56:39pm |
re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth
WHAT! They said they were friends of yours!
///
287 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:56:46pm |
re: #276 Cheechako
Each bottle contained 1 treatment of 6 pills. All the tech did was to combine 2 treatments into one bottle.
Gotcha
I've had them harass me bringing antibiotics over because of a tooth extraction. All my dental work is done in Mexico.
288 | Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:00:40pm |
re: #254 prononymous
Actually watch the interview. The CEO has some interesting thoughts regarding this.
I did that.
Validates my earlier sarc. To be more specific and political, USA market forces have devolved to the Republican model; let the lowest cost producer win (that's what they call free market), or otherwise put, let the smartest win.
He didn't explain how they managed to get financing to do this, and I wish them well but I am very pessimistic that it will make a dent in the American model.
What do we make in the industries of the future (by future I mean more than a 4 year electoral cycle)? We don't make TVs (we haven't made those for decades) we don't make PCs we don't make Kindles, we don't make solar panels we don't make wind turbines (even the Danes make more than the USA).
I could go on. I'm depressed.
289 | ozbloke Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:01:12pm |
re: #281 Rightwingconspirator
Reality is also the strongest teacher. In any case will we have a chance to discuss my prediction in ten years? If you can find me and I'm wrong I'll buy the drinks. Hell if you can find me in a decade and I'm right I'll buy. :-)>
I would like that, I will hold you to it.
290 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:02:18pm |
re: #285 albusteve
my older sis and her hubby spend 6mo winters in Yuma...they just love that area and buy lots of exotic meds in Mexico...they have never been burned...and my BinL had some fancy bridge work done there ultra cheap, and it was high quality workmanship...I can't even go down to Palomas anymore, it's way too dangerous
Los Algodones appeared to be very safe. Police and semi-auto armed border guards every where. There was a purse snatching while I was there. Within 30 seconds there were 3-4 uniformed police and a couple of undercover police on the scene. It's not very noticeable but the whole area is covered by TV cameras. I don't know if they caught the perp but I suspect he had a hard time getting away.
291 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:06:32pm |
re: #290 Cheechako
Los Algodones appeared to be very safe. Police and semi-auto armed border guards every where. There was a purse snatching while I was there. Within 30 seconds there were 3-4 uniformed police and a couple of undercover police on the scene. It's not very noticeable but the whole area is covered by TV cameras. I don't know if they caught the perp but I suspect he had a hard time getting away.
Nowhere in Mexico is very safe.
292 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:07:18pm |
re: #288 Naso Tang
I think our political environment is going to destroy our economy, as it has been doing for decades.
293 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:07:37pm |
Ugh.
I'm an idiot. I just left my cell phone in the back of a cab. I know it's there, because I used it to call the cab, and to answer when I got the automated callback to tell me it had arrived, and I don't have it now.
Now I'm having to try and track down the driver so I can get it back. FAIL.
294 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:08:28pm |
re: #292 prononymous
*political/social, rather.
295 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:08:30pm |
re: #287 Mr Pancakes
Gotcha
I've had them harass me bringing antibiotics over because of a tooth extraction. All my dental work is done in Mexico.
I bought 4 bottles of amoxicillin (100 pills each) for my BIL across with no questions. Total cost was $16.
296 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:08:42pm |
re: #293 Lidane
Try calling your phone. He might pick up.
297 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:08:43pm |
re: #293 Lidane
Ugh.
I'm an idiot. I just left my cell phone in the back of a cab. I know it's there, because I used it to call the cab, and to answer when I got the automated callback to tell me it had arrived, and I don't have it now.
Now I'm having to try and track down the driver so I can get it back. FAIL.
Cancel service now or not cancel........ that is the question.
298 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:09:36pm |
re: #296 CuriousLurker
Try calling your phone. He might pick up.
Or at least he'll know it's there and the next passenger won't walk off with it.
299 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:10:21pm |
re: #292 prononymous
I think our political environment is going to destroy our economy, as it has been doing for decades.
the politicians control the economy...many, if not most politicians are crooked in one sense or another....Wall St, multinationals and the banks own the country....we are hosed
300 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:10:29pm |
re: #279 prononymous
I imagined the work needed to install the modules might be a turnoff. But it really isn't that hard. And once you have them installed they last a really long time.
I have no idea if they plan to make a standard screw-in module but I'll let you know when they do, if you want me to.
Yes, please do.
301 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:10:42pm |
re: #296 CuriousLurker
Try calling your phone. He might pick up.
I did that. I'm on the phone with the dispatcher now to try and reach him directly.
*sigh*
302 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:11:02pm |
re: #298 CuriousLurker
Or at least he'll know it's there and the next passenger won't walk off with it.
That was my thought too.
I have "Home" programmed into my phone. If I ever leave it somewhere, someone might be kind enough to call me if they find it.
303 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:11:45pm |
re: #302 reine.de.tout
That was my thought too.
I have "Home" programmed into my phone. If I ever leave it somewhere, someone might be kind enough to call me if they find it.
Smart lady.
304 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:12:25pm |
re: #299 albusteve
the politicians control the economy...many, if not most politicians are crooked in one sense or another...Wall St, multinationals and the banks own the country...we are hosed
The politicians do not control the economy, Steve. They wield a great deal of influence, but the very fact that the unemployment has remained high in defiance of Obama's attempts to lower it is proof that the US economy cannot simply be 'controlled'.
305 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:12:45pm |
306 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:14:42pm |
Ugh. They just told me they'd get a message to the driver. If I don't hear from them within the next 20 minutes, call them back.
THIS SUCKS. I need that phone. It's damn near an extension of my arm most days because I rely on it so much. :(
307 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:14:51pm |
re: #305 reine.de.tout
Heh.
Amazing isn't it, me being suthren and all.
/
LOL Well, I'm southern too, remember?
308 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:15:54pm |
re: #307 CuriousLurker
LOL Well, I'm southern too, remember?
You're not Southern, you're a Texan ;-P
309 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:15:57pm |
re: #306 Lidane
Ugh. They just told me they'd get a message to the driver. If I don't hear from them within the next 20 minutes, call them back.
THIS SUCKS. I need that phone. It's damn near an extension of my arm most days because I rely on it so much. :(
*hands Lidane a paper bag* Breathe, woman. Everything's going to be fine.
310 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:16:01pm |
re: #302 reine.de.tout
That was my thought too.
I have "Home" programmed into my phone. If I ever leave it somewhere, someone might be kind enough to call me if they find it.
You must live in a better place than me.
311 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:16:50pm |
312 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:17:36pm |
re: #304 Dark_Falcon
The politicians do not control the economy, Steve. They wield a great deal of influence, but the very fact that the unemployment has remained high in defiance of Obama's attempts to lower it is proof that the US economy cannot simply be 'controlled'.
bullshit...it's a matter of degrees, the feds determine the tax laws, regulations and general business climate...the state provides tax breaks, protects the unions, local zoning laws determine business locations...on and on
btw, what has BO done to jump start employment?
313 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:17:42pm |
314 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:17:56pm |
315 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:18:00pm |
re: #306 Lidane
Ugh. They just told me they'd get a message to the driver. If I don't hear from them within the next 20 minutes, call them back.
THIS SUCKS. I need that phone. It's damn near an extension of my arm most days because I rely on it so much. :(
Hopefully you're not screwed...... but you probably are.
316 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:18:25pm |
317 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:18:40pm |
re: #310 Mr Pancakes
You must live in a better place than me.
I've found phones, and call "Home" or "Mom", if I can't find the person around.
318 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:18:43pm |
re: #315 Mr Pancakes
Hopefully you're not screwed... but you probably are.
That's what I'm thinking. I don't know what I'm going to do if I don't get it back. Blah.
319 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:19:33pm |
re: #318 Lidane
That's what I'm thinking. I don't know what I'm going to do if I don't get it back. Blah.
buy another one...that's what I do
320 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:19:42pm |
re: #317 reine.de.tout
ICE,
In Case of Emergency,
Is what we're taught to program in the phones.
Hope you are well?
321 | Interesting Times Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:20:04pm |
re: #302 reine.de.tout
That was my thought too.
I have "Home" programmed into my phone. If I ever leave it somewhere, someone might be kind enough to call me if they find it.
Reminds me of an incident where an iPhone was left behind in the women's washroom near the office where I work. Someone found it and it turned it in. There was no easy-to-find contact info on the homescreen, so the only way I could figure out who it belonged to was to go through the person's inbox. *_* That felt pretty icky, like the digital equivalent of rooting through someone's purse or garbage.
So yes, based on that little experience, I would strongly suggest putting some basic contact info in the phone that's visible on the screen even when the device is locked. Or even an old-fashioned physical label somewhere.
322 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:20:26pm |
re: #318 Lidane
That's what I'm thinking. I don't know what I'm going to do if I don't get it back. Blah.
That sucks... I feel for ya Lidane. You may want to cancel service now.
323 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:20:36pm |
Well, since Charles is on the road, I will do A Reveal here, and wait a week or so to mail this.
324 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:21:01pm |
re: #300 Dark_Falcon
Yes, please do.
Okay, I'll remember.
Though I want to add that the Edison screw base is an ancient format. New designs are much better. Restricting a design to be compatible with bases from the early 1900's onward is a significant limitation on power, thermal dissipation, optic design, etc.
325 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:21:04pm |
re: #318 Lidane
That's what I'm thinking. I don't know what I'm going to do if I don't get it back. Blah.
You will get it back. The driver is probably just out grabbing coffee or making a...pit stop. Cab drivers don't like to get screwed with by taxi inspectors. If you don't hear back from them tonight, call the taxicab inspector's office first thing in the AM and explain the situation.
326 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:21:22pm |
327 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:21:32pm |
re: #320 Floral Giraffe
ICE,
In Case of Emergency,
Is what we're taught to program in the phones.
Hope you are well?
Yes, thanks! Getting ober a bad code.
Otherwise, pretty OK.
And I do have an ICE number in my phone, as well.
328 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:21:39pm |
329 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:22:20pm |
330 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:22:25pm |
331 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:22:32pm |
332 | Kragar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:22:33pm |
re: #302 reine.de.tout
That was my thought too.
I have "Home" programmed into my phone. If I ever leave it somewhere, someone might be kind enough to call me if they find it.
Got lucky with a lost wallet like that once. Left it sitting at an ATM and when I got home, there was a voicemail from the guy who found it and told me how to get in touch with him.
333 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:23:07pm |
334 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:23:20pm |
re: #324 prononymous
Okay, I'll remember.
Though I want to add that the Edison screw base is an ancient format. New designs are much better. Restricting a design to be compatible with bases from the early 1900's onward is a significant limitation on power, thermal dissipation, optic design, etc.
"How did God create the world in 6 days?"
"He didn't have to deal with an installed base."
- Old programmer's joke that accurately sums up the problem you just posed.
335 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:24:07pm |
re: #332 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Got lucky with a lost wallet like that once. Left it sitting at an ATM and when I got home, there was a voicemail from the guy who found it and told me how to get in touch with him.
Ya see?
I believe MOST folks are quite honest and will do the right thing. So chances are when you lose something, you MOST LIKELY will get it back.
336 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:24:53pm |
re: #334 Dark_Falcon
"How did God create the world in 6 days?"
"He didn't have to deal with an installed base."
- Old programmer's joke that accurately sums up the problem you just posed.
and on the seventh day, he created, in his own image, Republicans!...yay!
337 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:26:21pm |
re: #335 reine.de.tout
Ya see?
I believe MOST folks are quite honest and will do the right thing. So chances are when you lose something, you MOST LIKELY will get it back.
I wish I felt that way, but experience has taught me otherwise........ I owed a retail store.
338 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:26:45pm |
re: #335 reine.de.tout
I too, got a wallet back, with cash & credit cards, that I left at a pay phone.
I also got a ride home from a lady in the car in front of me, when I didn't hit her car in an accident. She waited over an hour, just to give me a ride home. THAT's how happy she was, that I hadn't hit her car.
Good people take care of other good people!
339 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:26:56pm |
re: #325 CuriousLurker
You will get it back. The driver is probably just out grabbing coffee or making a...pit stop. Cab drivers don't like to get screwed with by taxi inspectors. If you don't hear back from them tonight, call the taxicab inspector's office first thing in the AM and explain the situation.
Or you could just panic. //
I'm gonna go check reine's page more thoroughly now...
340 | Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:27:07pm |
re: #292 prononymous
I think our political environment is going to destroy our economy, as it has been doing for decades.
There's a lot to debate in that one sentence.
Everything has its cycles, and most cycles swing further than one would like.
I blame one side for believing they have a god on their side and the other for respecting it and those in between for thinking it's not important.
Late.
Goodnight
341 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:29:02pm |
re: #337 Mr Pancakes
I wish I felt that way, but experience has taught me otherwise... I owed a retail store.
Yes, well - that I can understand. But honestly - weren't MOST of your customers honest? Those dishonest few can cause untold misery . . .
342 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:29:24pm |
re: #334 Dark_Falcon
"How did God create the world in 6 days?"
"He didn't have to deal with an installed base."
- Old programmer's joke that accurately sums up the problem you just posed.
Yeah, really. DAMN YOU WINTEL.
343 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:30:32pm |
On Christmas Eve I found a purse, fulll of everything possible in a grocery cart at the market parking lot. Turned it in. Poor lady lost her mind I'm sure, but she got it back. I checked.
344 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:30:41pm |
Well.
G'night folks, been a long day.
My left ear has been stopped up all day, and it's driving me batty. Nothing I do clears it up. argh. I want to scream.
345 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:32:22pm |
re: #344 reine.de.tout
Well.
G'night folks, been a long day.
My left ear has been stopped up all day, and it's driving me batty. Nothing I do clears it up. argh. I want to scream.
I have lots of Z-Packs!
346 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:34:18pm |
I'm not panicked yet. If I don't get it back, then I'll panic.
347 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:34:54pm |
re: #341 reine.de.tout
Yes, well - that I can understand. But honestly - weren't MOST of your customers honest? Those dishonest few can cause untold misery . . .
Of course 99% of our customers were honest........ the dishonest ones made it impossible to continue (our items were sold on consignment) ........ that it just wasn't fun (or profitable) anymore. Add to that we had a dishonest clerk taking money from the till. Am I jaded? Yea.
348 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:35:46pm |
I'm worn out so I'm going to bed. Goodnight, all.
349 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:36:08pm |
re: #346 Lidane
I'm not panicked yet. If I don't get it back, then I'll panic.
I'm glad you're not panicked (yet). ;o)
350 | reine.de.tout Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:36:24pm |
re: #347 Mr Pancakes
Of course 99% of our customers were honest... the dishonest ones made it impossible to continue (our items were sold on consignment) ... that it just wasn't fun (or profitable) anymore. Add to that we had a dishonest clerk taking money from the till. Am I jaded? Yea.
{{Mr Pancakes}}
So sorry.
351 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:37:02pm |
re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth
Seriously. Are we gonna start seeing written legislation containing terms like "Hoo-Hoo Diddle" and "Va-Jay Jay"?
There's a Monk episode where the feisty old lady who was kidnapped keeps telling everyone that she should have 'stabbed them in the particulars'. Perhaps that would be generic enough to please everyone.
352 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:37:23pm |
re: #340 Naso Tang
There's a lot to debate in that one sentence.
Everything has its cycles, and most cycles swing further than one would like.
I blame one side for believing they have a god on their side and the other for respecting it and those in between for thinking it's not important.
Late.
Goodnight
While I believe that both parties are responsible for the problem, I don't think this is a cycle - it has been steady for a long time. Nor do I think it comes down to religion. I think it comes down to neither party being pragmatic when it comes to attracting business and maintaining economic stability - as well as the fact that our society buys mostly on cost regardless of other factors. Ideological stances might sound good but often break down in the real world.
Have a good night.
354 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:38:05pm |
re: #346 Lidane
I'm not panicked yet. If I don't get it back, then I'll panic.
I had iphone stolen. Guy at store next day told me they sold them for 200 on craigslist. not to worry about my info (you know, all the sexting info) kidding.
Lidane, whatever happens, it's survivable.
355 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:38:15pm |
re: #350 reine.de.tout
{{Mr Pancakes}}
So sorry.
Thanks...... it sucked cuz we paid our employees more that we paid ourselves.
356 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:39:22pm |
I just got here... who the fuck am I going to take pot shots at if everyone is leaving?
I guess I'll just get back to my writing duties. I'm writing more material for Jeff Dunham and Walter.
357 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:39:52pm |
re: #351 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a Monk episode where the feisty old lady who was kidnapped keeps telling everyone that she should have 'stabbed them in the particulars'. Perhaps that would be generic enough to please everyone.
I'm doing my part on twitter, along with many others. holy shit what have we devolved to?
358 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:40:36pm |
re: #243 Slumbering Behemoth
The 1750s, it would seem.
Oh, in the 1750s they still said a hell of a lot worse than 'uterus' in mixed company. This euphemistic nonsense is of a more recent vintage.
359 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:40:40pm |
re: #356 Walter L. Newton
I just got here... who the fuck am I going to take pot shots at if everyone is leaving?
I guess I'll just get back to my writing duties. I'm writing more material for Jeff Dunham and Walter.
You can pick on me Walter.
360 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:41:07pm |
Now... this is what I call making or saving jobs...
A U.S. recruiter is hiring nuclear power workers in the United States to help Japan gain control of the stricken Fukushima Daiichi plant, which has been spewing radiation.
The qualifications: Skills gained in the nuclear industry, a passport, a family willing to let you go, willingness to work in a radioactive zone.
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]
Shovel ready.
361 | CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:41:16pm |
re: #356 Walter L. Newton
I just got here... who the fuck am I going to take pot shots at if everyone is leaving?
I guess I'll just get back to my writing duties. I'm writing more material for Jeff Dunham and Walter.
We heard you coming.
I'm out too. G'nite, everyone.
362 | Digital Display Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:42:30pm |
re: #356 Walter L. Newton
I just got here... who the fuck am I going to take pot shots at if everyone is leaving?
I guess I'll just get back to my writing duties. I'm writing more material for Jeff Dunham and Walter.
I'm here Walter
:)
363 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:42:43pm |
re: #247 EmmmieG
The 1750's were much baudier than the 1880's.
There is a delightful scene in one of Amanda Quick's novels, where a young man and woman are travelling through Regency England by coach, with a pair of middle-aged 'chaperones' who have gotten raucously drunk and are singing dirty ballads. The young man apologizes. "Older generation, you know. Not quite so refined."
Think Benjamin Franklin's young admirers, now the older folks in a Jane Austen world.
364 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:42:47pm |
re: #360 Walter L. Newton
Now... this is what I call making or saving jobs...
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]
Shovel ready.
So it took business weeks to do what governments did in days. That's really slow, and that's quite something considering how slow government usually is.
365 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:43:05pm |
re: #356 Walter L. Newton
Walter
Got a chance to visit the Gem and Mineral shows in Quartzsite and Tuscon during my snowbird trip to AZ this winter. It was hard to believe all the beautiful stuff that was on display. Even the crew from the meteor show were there with samples. Amazing stuff.
366 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:43:17pm |
re: #252 Floral Giraffe
Woman with a knife, perhaps?
Is anyone else starting to worry that Brookly's girlfriend might have shot him?
367 | Amory Blaine Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:44:10pm |
re: #356 Walter L. Newton
I just got here... who the fuck am I going to take pot shots at if everyone is leaving?
"You wanna hurt me go ahead if it makes you feel any better I'm an easy target.
yeah your right i talk to much i also listen to much.
i could be a cold hearted cynic like you...but i don't like to hurt peoples feelings.
well you think what you want about me I'm not changing.
I like...I like me.
my kids like me.
my friends like me.
cause I'm the real article.
what ya see is watch ya get.
Del Griffith
368 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:45:15pm |
re: #277 Stanley Sea
Do I click? Do I click?
You click. Be aware that the thing you are going to see SPEAKS to the child, in a high-pitched quavery voice that is, actually, sort of what I would expect a clitoris to sound like it if talked.
369 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:46:06pm |
re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist
Is anyone else starting to worry that Brookly's girlfriend might have shot him?
Hmmmmm maybe it was the ultimate flounce.
/
370 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:46:24pm |
re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist
Is anyone else starting to worry that Brookly's girlfriend might have shot him?
ha! with her glock. My theory is he got a job and is SUPER BUSY.
IMHO He was not a wimp & would not just bail when times got tough.
371 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:46:41pm |
re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth
You know some real weird-ass kids, Floral.
/;)
I remember years ago, renting "South Park: The Movie" with my boyfriend.
The young man behind the counter asked politely if we understood that it was not a children's movie.
We assured him that did.
372 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:47:16pm |
re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist
Is anyone else starting to worry that Brookly's girlfriend might have shot him?
remember Realwest?...sometimes I wonder if his cancer is still killing him, or has
373 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:48:02pm |
re: #365 Cheechako
Walter
Got a chance to visit the Gem and Mineral shows in Quartzsite and Tuscon during my snowbird trip to AZ this winter. It was hard to believe all the beautiful stuff that was on display. Even the crew from the meteor show were there with samples. Amazing stuff.
Yes, Tuscon is the ground zero show for meteorite sales... actually never been there myself, but well aware of the quality and quantity of items on sale. If you want 1000 grams of meteorites or 1000 kilograms of meteorites, they can be had there.
And there's always fresh material from the Moroccans... picked up during the preceding year by the bedouins and sold at Tuscon.
When I do buy bulk, I have a contact in Dahkla, Western Sahara. Takes up to six months to arrange a shipment, but price wise, it's worth it.
374 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:48:18pm |
re: #305 reine.de.tout
Heh.
Amazing isn't it, me being suthren and all.
/
Steel Magnolias have always been sharp as tacks, they just don't let gentlemen know it.
375 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:48:44pm |
re: #370 Stanley Sea
ha! with her glock. My theory is he got a job and is SUPER BUSY.
IMHO He was not a wimp & would not just bail when times got tough.
Some conservatives just hang out in open threads. Not that I mean me or anything.
376 | abolitionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:48:51pm |
re: #165 Obdicut
I don't like people who drive while drunk. It's like firing randomly into the air.
Get him a bike.
Ahem. He also has to have a "primary vehicle" with a breathalyzer interlock..
Such a bike is going to be weird-looking, and very expensive, I'd bet.
378 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:49:42pm |
379 | Amory Blaine Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:49:53pm |
re: #376 abolitionist
They arrest you for a DUI on a bicycle as well.
380 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:50:35pm |
Well, shit. The driver couldn't find the phone in his cab, so my guess is that someone he picked up afterwards took it. I'm canceling the service now and trying to get a replacement.
Fuck. I did NOT need this, since it's going to cost money I don't have to replace my phone.
381 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:50:44pm |
re: #379 Amory Blaine
They arrest you for a DUI on a bicycle as well.
also on horseback and lawn tractors
382 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:51:15pm |
re: #372 albusteve
remember Realwest?...sometimes I wonder if his cancer is still killing him, or has
Me too! he never responded to my emails, way back when, asking what happened.
We chatted thru email sometimes. He seemed like a genuine fellow.
383 | Amory Blaine Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:51:27pm |
re: #381 albusteve
also on horseback and lawn tractors
I wonder about those shoes that have the hidden wheels in them?
384 | Digital Display Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:52:27pm |
re: #382 ggt
Me too! he never responded to my emails, way back when, asking what happened.
We chatted thru email sometimes. He seemed like a genuine fellow.
He is still blogging
385 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:53:37pm |
re: #382 ggt
Me too! he never responded to my emails, way back when, asking what happened.
We chatted thru email sometimes. He seemed like a genuine fellow.
he was, I don't know why he split...not my business, he was just gone
386 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:53:40pm |
re: #380 Lidane
I'd have called the number from a pay phone first, and said "You think I can't find my cell phone? You think I can't find you?" just to fuck with 'em a little.
387 | Cheechako Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:53:44pm |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
My son and DIL worked for one of the major importers. They had all kinds of gems and mineral that were sold by the pound. Most were in boxes and were never looked at before the sale.
My kids got some outstanding agate slices and crystals.
388 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:54:11pm |
re: #383 Amory Blaine
I wonder about those shoes that have the hidden wheels in them?
first they came for the cars....
389 | albusteve Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:54:45pm |
390 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:55:15pm |
re: #386 Slumbering Behemoth
I'd have called the number from a pay phone first, and said "You think I can't find my cell phone? You think I can't find you?" just to fuck with 'em a little.
Some of the new phones have GPS embedded........ which will be the norm soon.
391 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:55:19pm |
re: #363 SanFranciscoZionist
There is a delightful scene in one of Amanda Quick's novels, where a young man and woman are travelling through Regency England by coach, with a pair of middle-aged 'chaperones' who have gotten raucously drunk and are singing dirty ballads. The young man apologizes. "Older generation, you know. Not quite so refined."
Think Benjamin Franklin's young admirers, now the older folks in a Jane Austen world.
Is Amanda Quick a good author? What books would you recommend?
I'm out of listening material . . .
BTW, Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Angel's Game was a unbelievably wonderful listen.
392 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:56:47pm |
Off topic, but I've been old music videos of songs I kinda like from the 80's. For those old enough to have been there, will you explain this.
393 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:56:50pm |
re: #391 ggt
Is Amanda Quick a good author? What books would you recommend?
I'm out of listening material . . .
BTW, Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Angel's Game was a unbelievably wonderful listen.
Amanda Quick is the author who reimagined the Regency romance. The standard for Regencies for ages was that there was no sex. Quick added the sex.
If you like well-crafted romance, she is very good indeed. I haven't read anything of hers in years, and don't recall the titles, but Amazon will have lots to offer.
394 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:57:05pm |
re: #390 Mr Pancakes
Some of the new phones have GPS embedded... which will be the norm soon.
Before that, you could still triangulate a signal using cell towers. Not as precise as GPS, but still.
395 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:57:40pm |
A gentleman has just commented on my Facebook post about the Florida Uterus Scandal.
His comment? "Urethra!"
396 | tnguitarist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:58:13pm |
re: #392 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I've been old music videos of songs I kinda like from the 80's. For those old enough to have been there, will you explain this.
[Video]
I can't hear that song without thinking of The Wedding Singer.
397 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:58:24pm |
Oh well. I deactivated my phone already. I'll go to the AT&T Store at the mall tomorrow to find a new phone, I guess.
It was an older iPhone. Maybe I'll get a new one, since I was at the upgrade point anyway. Still, this is annoying.
398 | Gus Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:58:54pm |
Yikes. Started looking through some of the LGF links and my head's already spinning. It seems as though when you step away for a while and come back it looks even worse. I'm sure we all know who and what "it" is.
399 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 9:59:06pm |
re: #393 SanFranciscoZionist
Amanda Quick is the author who reimagined the Regency romance. The standard for Regencies for ages was that there was no sex. Quick added the sex.
If you like well-crafted romance, she is very good indeed. I haven't read anything of hers in years, and don't recall the titles, but Amazon will have lots to offer.
I'm not a romance reader, unless it is heavy in accurate (as possible) historical fiction and some decent plot lines.
I don't watch chick flicks either.
400 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:00:01pm |
re: #392 ProLifeLiberal
Heh. It's funny you ask, as I have recently watched a sort of examination of '80s music videos.
401 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:00:02pm |
re: #398 Gus 802
Yikes. Started looking through some of the LGF links and my head's already spinning. It seems as though when you step away for a while and come back it looks even worse. I'm sure we all know who and what "it" is.
I don't. :(
402 | Kragar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:00:09pm |
re: #392 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I've been old music videos of songs I kinda like from the 80's. For those old enough to have been there, will you explain this.
[Video]
It was originally written for a movie soundtrack
403 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:00:33pm |
re: #398 Gus 802
Yikes. Started looking through some of the LGF links and my head's already spinning. It seems as though when you step away for a while and come back it looks even worse. I'm sure we all know who and what "it" is.
No I don't?
404 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:00:36pm |
I was in college when MTV first went on the air. It was SO COOL.
I feel SO OLD.
406 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:01:06pm |
407 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:02:04pm |
re: #392 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I've been old music videos of songs I kinda like from the 80's. For those old enough to have been there, will you explain this.
[Video]
Explain? haha.
408 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:02:43pm |
re: #402 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wow, I can't believe someone thought of that.
The song is awesome, but the real video look so weird. On top of that it's very hard to tell the gender of the main singer.
409 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:03:23pm |
re: #392 ProLifeLiberal
'Kay:
Everyone had hair like that back then. I went to school with girls with hair just like that.
The singer has since been revealed to be a nut of the first order.
The Video bimbo standard hadn't been invented yet.
This video has nothing on Duran Duran's Planet Earth.
410 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:03:42pm |
re: #408 ProLifeLiberal
Wow, I can't believe someone thought of that.
The song is awesome, but the real video look so weird. On top of that it's very hard to tell the gender of the main singer.
Pete Burns....... easier now?
412 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:04:08pm |
re: #398 Gus 802
Yikes. Started looking through some of the LGF links and my head's already spinning. It seems as though when you step away for a while and come back it looks even worse. I'm sure we all know who and what "it" is.
The Ultimate Clitoris?
413 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:04:44pm |
414 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:04:50pm |
re: #397 Lidane
Oh well. I deactivated my phone already. I'll go to the AT&T Store at the mall tomorrow to find a new phone, I guess.
It was an older iPhone. Maybe I'll get a new one, since I was at the upgrade point anyway. Still, this is annoying.
Girl, you are where I was a month ago. Other than the cash and the slight embarrassment pf asking for numbers to re=program, I survived. You will. It sucks though.
415 | Kragar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:04:56pm |
re: #408 ProLifeLiberal
Wow, I can't believe someone thought of that.
The song is awesome, but the real video look so weird. On top of that it's very hard to tell the gender of the main singer.
Androgyny was all the rage. They were kids who grew up watching and listening to Bowie and Queen.
416 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:05:23pm |
re: #399 ggt
I'm not a romance reader, unless it is heavy in accurate (as possible) historical fiction and some decent plot lines.
I don't watch chick flicks either.
Might not be your thing then, although I enjoy her stuff, and I am not much of a romance reader.
If you like historical fiction, have you read/listened to any Judith Merkle Riley?
417 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:06:52pm |
419 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:08:14pm |
re: #417 Stanley Sea
You do realize that someone must register that nic here now.
420 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:08:46pm |
re: #397 Lidane
Oh well. I deactivated my phone already. I'll go to the AT&T Store at the mall tomorrow to find a new phone, I guess.
It was an older iPhone. Maybe I'll get a new one, since I was at the upgrade point anyway. Still, this is annoying.
How much storage did you have on your lost iPhone? AT&T's online store has some refurb'ed 16 GB iPhone 4's with cosmetic blemishes for 79 bucks with a 2-year renewal.
421 | Gus Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:09:31pm |
re: #411 Gus 802
What the heck is going on with the Hulu webpage?
Apparently it's supposed to be an April fools joke.
[Link: www.hulu.com...]
422 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:10:09pm |
re: #420 talon_262
How much storage did you have on your lost iPhone? AT&T's online store has some refurb'ed 16 GB iPhone 4's with cosmetic blemishes for 79 bucks with a 2-year renewal.
MY neighbor's wife lost her phone in a store. He managed to get on the local news after whoever found the phone actually went on her facebook page and posted some gibberish.
423 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:10:50pm |
re: #416 SanFranciscoZionist
Might not be your thing then, although I enjoy her stuff, and I am not much of a romance reader.
If you like historical fiction, have you read/listened to any Judith Merkle Riley?
no, and there doesn't seem to be an audio version of any of her work.
:(
424 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:11:07pm |
re: #414 Stanley Sea
Girl, you are where I was a month ago. Other than the cash and the slight embarrassment pf asking for numbers to re=program, I survived. You will. It sucks though.
I'm trying to look at the bright side. As annoying as this is, it's just a lost phone. I hate that I'll have to spend the money, but all the important stuff-- credit cards, debit cards, ID, etc. -- is here with me, and I can get all my numbers back.
I'm more irritated with myself for not being careful, and annoyed at the inconvenience of having to go get a new phone tomorrow. Other than that, I'll be okay. :)
425 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:11:13pm |
re: #415 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Speaking of David Bowie, ever seen this:
The resemblance is eerie.
426 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:11:46pm |
In respect of women everywhere and especially of #uterus
Check this vid out, just posted via twitter
MUST WATCH
CAP GIRL GOES OFF
427 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:12:05pm |
re: #418 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And then we had Adam Ant
[Video]
I liked Adam Ant. He was in a vampire movie, it was hilarious.
428 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:12:15pm |
I will say (as my last post tonight), that I prefer looking at older videos. They hadn't yet figured out that they could skip out on creativity or a story and just show a lot of half-naked women.
Nike Kershaw's Wouldn't It Be Good is a little gem.
429 | HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:12:18pm |
I hope they don't get rid of the GPS on my iPhone any time soon. I got in uh I want to say 2009. REally GPS has been a nice help to me since I have a terrible sense of direction.
430 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:12:36pm |
re: #420 talon_262
How much storage did you have on your lost iPhone? AT&T's online store has some refurb'ed 16 GB iPhone 4's with cosmetic blemishes for 79 bucks with a 2-year renewal.
I had the 16GB iPhone 3GS. I'm going to the mall and going to talk to someone at the AT&T Store. Maybe I can get a decent deal on something.
431 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:12:37pm |
re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth
You do realize that someone must register that nic here now.
I;ll sock it
432 | Kragar Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:14:03pm |
re: #425 ProLifeLiberal
Speaking of David Bowie, ever seen this:
The resemblance is eerie.
And then we have the evolution of Emma Watson
433 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:14:24pm |
re: #421 Gus 802
Ugh. I've forgotten how much I both love and hate the internet on April 1st.
434 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:14:43pm |
re: #424 Lidane
I'm trying to look at the bright side. As annoying as this is, it's just a lost phone. I hate that I'll have to spend the money, but all the important stuff-- credit cards, debit cards, ID, etc. -- is here with me, and I can get all my numbers back.
I'm more irritated with myself for not being careful, and annoyed at the inconvenience of having to go get a new phone tomorrow. Other than that, I'll be okay. :)
I've seriously considered a wrist band attachment thingy.
435 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:14:49pm |
re: #432 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like the middle one.
437 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:16:50pm |
438 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:18:48pm |
re: #430 Lidane
I had the 16GB iPhone 3GS. I'm going to the mall and going to talk to someone at the AT&T Store. Maybe I can get a decent deal on something.
Log in to your AT&T Mobility account and check your upgrade eligibility...if it were me, unless you're really wed to Apple, I'd look at Android phones too. I love my Samsung Captivate...got mine from Wirefly (who apparently is no longer an AT&T reseller) back before Christmas for free with a contract extension. Amazon's wireless store has some pretty good deals, too...
440 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:22:54pm |
re: #415 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Androgyny was all the rage. They were kids who grew up watching and listening to Bowie and Queen.
The music teacher at my school brought in some clips for the kids to watch. Aerosmith. Motley Crue. That sort of thing.
The kids asked, 'are they gay?'. That was the first question. It baffled me, until I realized that the hair, and the body language, was so unlike anything they were used to, that they couldn't quite figure out what they were looking at.
441 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:23:40pm |
re: #423 ggt
no, and there doesn't seem to be an audio version of any of her work.
:(
That is a pity.
442 | Lidane Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:23:51pm |
re: #438 talon_262
Log in to your AT&T Mobility account and check your upgrade eligibility...if it were me, unless you're really wed to Apple, I'd look at Android phones too. I love my Samsung Captivate...got mine from Wirefly (who apparently is no longer an AT&T reseller) back before Christmas for free with a contract extension. Amazon's wireless store has some pretty good deals, too...
I had some issues with my iPhone a few months back and I remember the dude at the Apple store telling me I was eligible for an upgrade in late February. I'm pretty sure that still stands in spite of the lost phone. I hope so anyway.
I'm not wedded to the iPhone, but the idea of losing all the apps I use bugs me. I have some really handy ones that I bought which I'd have to replace if I got a Windows Phone or an Android. That's just more money I'd need to spend.
443 | HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:25:20pm |
Anyone hear own a droid and if so would you recommend it? I enjoy my iPhone but I think it runs out of battery too easily and has other things I don't like about it. Also, for those who are tech aware, anyone know if Apple is planning to make a bigger iPod touch? I love my classic but I'd love to have the apps as well.
444 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:26:24pm |
re: #437 Stanley Sea
Someone needs to light a fire under the butts of the front line guys to organize. Perhaps speaking about the people at home who will die if they don't listen will suffice.
445 | Mr Pancakes Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:29:08pm |
I'm going to IHOP .... goodnight everyone.
446 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:29:53pm |
re: #444 ProLifeLiberal
Someone needs to light a fire under the butts of the front line guys to organize. Perhaps speaking about the people at home who will die if they don't listen will suffice.
I guess that several other "top men" are leaving Guadaffi (sp, like Darth, I give up on the sp) We can only hope.
447 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:30:52pm |
re: #426 Stanley Sea
It's bad enough that there are many politicians here in The States that want to roll back the progress of womens rights, but I find it especially disgusting that most folk would like to turn a blind eye to the Dark Age style of theocratic oppression women endure in other nations.
448 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:31:31pm |
re: #430 Lidane
I had the 16GB iPhone 3GS. I'm going to the mall and going to talk to someone at the AT&T Store. Maybe I can get a decent deal on something.
Think about getting a MobileMe account and syncing your new phone with it. There's an iPhone/iPod Touch finder app that you can use to find any lost devices you've synced to your account.
449 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:33:09pm |
Anyone remember my question about how a gentile can learn more about the Torah?
My friends asked their Rabbi and he offers Torah study (sentence by sentence --eeek!) and Intro to Judiasm. I also just signed-up for 10-minutes of Torah. Sounds very cool.
450 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:33:41pm |
re: #447 Slumbering Behemoth
It's bad enough that there are many politicians here in The States that want to roll back the progress of womens rights, but I find it especially disgusting that most folk would like to turn a blind eye to the Dark Age style of theocratic oppression women endure in other nations.
A challenge I;ve watched my whole life. And now I'm, aware of the global struggle too. Pretty pathetic.
451 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:34:33pm |
re: #447 Slumbering Behemoth
It's bad enough that there are many politicians here in The States that want to roll back the progress of womens rights, but I find it especially disgusting that most folk would like to turn a blind eye to the Dark Age style of theocratic oppression women endure in other nations.
DON'T GET ME STARTED.
452 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:35:17pm |
re: #443 HappyWarrior
Anyone hear own a droid and if so would you recommend it?
They can be pretty cool sometimes, but other times they can be a real pain in the ass.
453 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:36:52pm |
OK, my wonderful peeps, me and my laptop on it's last legs are leaving you for the nighty.
454 | HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:39:58pm |
re: #452 Slumbering Behemoth
They can be pretty cool sometimes, but other times they can be a real pain in the ass.
Haha, thanks, how's the battery life, app library, etc? One of my biggest complaints with the iPhone is at times the battery meter won't go down.
455 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:43:42pm |
re: #454 HappyWarrior
Haha, thanks, how's the battery life, app library, etc? One of my biggest complaints with the iPhone is at times the battery meter won't go down.
My son lost damaged-beyond-repair his iPhone, and opted to replace it with a Droid. He said his next phone will be an iPhone. Mostly because his iTunes won't all play on the Droid and he wants the apps he used to have.
456 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:45:42pm |
re: #448 goddamnedfrank
FYI the MobileMe iDisk service is really useful and the main reason I got an account. I sometimes need to share very large files with students, colleagues and clients, much larger than will attach to an email, and the iDisk is foolproof. I could do the same thing via FTP but not all browsers support that and the links generated by MobileMe work with the least common denominator.
457 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:49:34pm |
re: #451 ggt
Get started! Or not.
I am just baffled by the whole thing. In some parts of the world women are treated worse than livestock in the name of mythology, and here it would seem there are forces that decry the behavior in the name of such mythology, while actively working for the same in the name of theirs.
It would seem that the acceptability of oppressing females depends entirely on where you live, and which particular mythology you are using to do the oppressing.
How. Very. Sad.
458 | Mr. Crankypants Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:49:39pm |
re: #452 Slumbering Behemoth
They can be pretty cool sometimes, but other times they can be a real pain in the ass.
I've found the biggest problem with my droid is battery life. Other than that, it's pretty darned nice.
459 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 10:52:37pm |
re: #454 HappyWarrior
Haha, thanks, how's the battery life, app library, etc?
Heh. You're asking the wrong dude, dude. My cell is a pre-paid POS that I barely use. It spends more time plugged into the charger than it does plugged into my ear.
460 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 11:15:39pm |
re: #457 Slumbering Behemoth
Get started! Or not.
I am just baffled by the whole thing. In some parts of the world women are treated worse than livestock in the name of mythology, and here it would seem there are forces that decry the behavior in the name of such mythology, while actively working for the same in the name of theirs.
It would seem that the acceptability of oppressing females depends entirely on where you live, and which particular mythology you are using to do the oppressing.
How. Very. Sad.
I STAND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
please click, then click again and sign the petition.
share on facebook, tweet, do the internet thing.
If you live in the area or can get there, next Thursday, April 7th, there will be a Planned Parenthood rally in DC.
If you can't, they can always use $5 or $5000.
Talk about it, write, call your congress critters. Know the facts
You can do a search for ggt on the Pages, I have several posts.
Instead of arguing statistics, when I talk wtih people I ask: Where would you (the female in your life) go for her annual exam if you didn't have insurance? Something to think about with all the Health Care changes.
The facts are this simple. 3% of services provided by PP are abortions. NO Federal funds were used for abortions at Planned Parenthood. 97% of the services provided were HEALTH CARE for women who couldn't afford to go anywhere else.
This page from their annual report shows the pie chart of services provided.
The fact of the matter is that men don't like that contraception, STD treatment and EDUCATION is provided to both Men and Woman and Young Adults confidentially and out-of-the loop of MALE dominated society.
If you don't believe in abortion, don't behave in such a way that might lead to one.
461 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Mar 31, 2011 11:16:36pm |
re: #457 Slumbering Behemoth
Get started! Or not.
I am just baffled by the whole thing. In some parts of the world women are treated worse than livestock in the name of mythology, and here it would seem there are forces that decry the behavior in the name of such mythology, while actively working for the same in the name of theirs.
It would seem that the acceptability of oppressing females depends entirely on where you live, and which particular mythology you are using to do the oppressing.
How. Very. Sad.
Traditionally, women are treated as things or pets. This Brave New World is rife with conflict and cognitive dissonance.
462 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 11:28:50pm |
re: #460 ggt
The fact of the matter is that men don't like that contraception, STD treatment and EDUCATION is provided to both Men and Woman and Young Adults confidentially and out-of-the loop of MALE dominated society.
Well, this man would disagree with that broad brush assumption, but you still get a favorable fist bump. It's a worthy cause.
463 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 31, 2011 11:31:09pm |
The kid next door to us is having a party. They are smoking, or, actually, I think they've just thrown a brick of pot in a hibachi and set fire to it.
Unfortunately, this was a nice hot day, and we have all the windows open.
I hate the smell of pot. Oh God, I just HATE the smell of pot.
Must. Speak. To. Manager.
When I was in college, they told us during dorm orientation to put a towel under the door. Did these people never attend college?
I miss the Arab kids. They just drank vast amounts of beer, quietly.
464 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 31, 2011 11:53:42pm |
re: #463 SanFranciscoZionist
I blame increased stupidity and lack of discretion. Why, in my day, we kept things on the "down low". So yeah, bust their stupid asses. They need to learn to be discreet.
Heh. A handful of years back, my neighbors at the time went out of town for the weekend, leaving their teen daughter and son behind.
Blaring music with the windows open at 2am, a metric fuck-ton of beer bottles in our dumpster the next morning, as well as a carton's worth of cig butts all around their front door. All I could think was "These rookies have no class, no style, no discretion, no brains. They deserve to get busted."
465 | engineer cat Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:03:58am |
Quinnipiac University Poll. March 22-28, 2011
"Do you support or oppose cutting off federal government funding to NPR, National Public Radio?"
Support Cutting 34%
Oppose Cutting 52%
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. March 10-13, 2011
"Now thinking specifically about workers employed by state governments, do you think those workers should or should not have a right to form unions to negotiate things like their working conditions, pay, benefits and pensions?"
Should 67%
Should not 32%
Pew Research Center. March 8-14, 2011
"Would you favor or oppose Changes to Social Security and Medicare as a way to reduce the budget deficit?"
Favor 30%
Oppose 65%
ALL YOUR ISSUE ARE BELONG TO US
466 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:07:54am |
re: #461 ggt
There are many traditions that deserve to be cast into the trash heap of history, and that happens to be one of them.
I'll leave the preservation of tradition for tradition's sake to the cowards that fear the enlightenment and progress of humanity.
I prefer to spend what little time I have tearing down the edifice of stupidity and corruption.
467 | Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:09:08am |
re: #462 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, this man would disagree with that broad brush assumption, but you still get a favorable fist bump. It's a worthy cause.
You are right.
I should have said "Whacko Men".
apologizes.
468 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:09:47am |
re: #466 Slumbering Behemoth
Some sarc implied there, mostly as an excuse to link a cool groove.
469 | Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:16:10am |
re: #466 Slumbering Behemoth
There are many traditions that deserve to be cast into the trash heap of history, and that happens to be one of them.
I'll leave the preservation of tradition for tradition's sake to the cowards that fear the enlightenment and progress of humanity.
I prefer to spend what little time I have tearing down the edifice of stupidity and corruption.
Well, if scads of women die in the process of pregnancy and childbirth, and those that live spend all their time baking bread and washing clothes at the river, AND they don't know how to space their pregnancies or prevent them, it makes little sense to teach them to read or devote much economic or emotional resources to them.
/gah
But, I see how history has favored men. Women used to die alot.
What has happened since SCIENCE enabled women to control their pregnancies? Gee, all that soft warm fuzzy stuff like Social Workers and Counselling and Rehab clinics and an international attention to sex crimes and abuse.
Not to mention the strides science has made since brilliant minds, previously barred from research because of gender, have been able to join the rank of scientists.
The same goes for all disciplines, not just hard science. Law, etc.
It's a Brave New World and it's not an exclusively male world anymore. It is difficult for some of both sexes to conceive of and accept.
470 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:19:16am |
re: #467 ggt
You are right.
I should have said "Whacko Men".
apologizes.
No real need. I'm picking up what you're putting down, despite the fact that I have a penis.
/
Seriously though, when you have female democrats in some states sponsoring bills that mandate intrusive ultrasounds for those seeking abortions for any reason, including rape, then we have gone well past any black and white distinctions.
We truly do live in interesting times.
471 | Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:25:23am |
re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth
No real need. I'm picking up what you're putting down, despite the fact that I have a penis.
/Seriously though, when you have female democrats in some states sponsoring bills that mandate intrusive ultrasounds for those seeking abortions for any reason, including rape, then we have gone well past any black and white distinctions.
We truly do live in interesting times.
Gender seems to have little to do with it, you are right again.
It's about Power. Women with Power become, in many ways, what we think of as "male". Another reason some of the Fundamentalist Religious Whackos want to limit women. Can't handle the competition.
Those with Power want to manipulate those without.
472 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:25:45am |
re: #469 ggt
Shit. There was a blurb on some TV show the other night which indicated that increased opportunities for women in education and employment helped improve the economies and communities in areas which previously disallowed such things. Seemed like a "no shit" concept to me. Wish I could remember what program it was.
473 | Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:28:18am |
re: #472 Slumbering Behemoth
Shit. There was a blurb on some TV show the other night which indicated that increased opportunities for women in education and employment helped improve the economies and communities in areas which previously disallowed such things. Seemed like a "no shit" concept to me. Wish I could remember what program it was.
Yeah, no shit.
But the former "male concept" has been downgraded. Equality means that Men have to cook, clean, care for the children. They can't just dictate without possible rebuttal or "conversation" about it.
Some men can't handle this. Usually those with small minds or alcohol problems.
Same with domineering women.
Power can be challenged regardless of the gender holding it.
Power doesn't like that.
It is an addiction of it's own and IMHO, probably the most insidious.
474 | Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:29:24am |
I have to sleep.
Thanks for the conversation.
Have a great morning!
475 | treasured people Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:31:20am |
THEY SAY THERE IS A LAND
lyrics: Saul Tshenikovsky
music: Naomi Shemer
They say: There is a land,
a land drenched with sun.
Wherefore is that land?
Where is that sun?
They say: There is a land,
its pillars are seven,
seven planets,
spiringing up on every hill.
Where is that land,
the stars of that hill?
Who shall guide our way,
tell me my path?
Already have we passed several
deserts and oceans.
Already have we traversed several,
our strengths are ending.
How is it we have gone astray?
That not yet have we been left alone?
That land of sun,
that one we have not found.
A land where shall come to pass
what every man had hoped for,
Everyone who enters,
had met with Akiva.
Peace to you, Akiva!
Peace to you, Rabbi!
Where are the saints?
Where is the Maccabee?
Answers him Akiva,
answers him the Rabbi:
All of Israel is sainted,
you are the Maccabee!
Where is that land,
the stars of that hill?
Who shall guide our way,
tell me my path?
They say: There is a land,
a land drenched with sun...
Wherefore is that land?
Where is that sun?
476 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:35:11am |
re: #473 ggt
But the former "male concept" has been downgraded. Equality means that Men have to cook, clean, care for the children. They can't just dictate without possible rebuttal or "conversation" about it.
Oh, you are overstepping your boundaries with that one, little missy!
Some men can't handle this. Usually those with small minds or alcohol problems.
And now you feel content with besmirching my love of barley and hops? This Suffrage movement has gone too far for my liking! Too far indeed!
/only kidding friend. sleep well.
477 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:54:24am |
Despite the fact that I'm not a fan, I am feeling a bit Picard-ish.
'Nite y'all.
478 | Summer Seale Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:33:12am |
This is really awesome:
1st of April and Youtube has done something funny, as usual. =)
Go to Youtube, click on any video, and click on the 1911 button on the right of the player. =)
Happy April 1st everyone. =)
479 | freetoken Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:36:12am |
Looks like arrangements are being made for the next step:
The world's largest concrete pump, deployed at the construction site of the U.S. government's $4.86 billion mixed oxide fuel plant at Savannah River Site, is being moved to Japan in a series of emergency measures to help stabilize the Fukushima reactors.
[...]
Initially, the pump from Savannah River Site, and another 70-meter Putzmeister now at a construction site in California, will be used to pump water -- and later will be used to move concrete.
"Our understanding is, they are preparing to go to next phase and it will require a lot of concrete," Ashmore said, noting that the 70-meter pump can move 210 cubic yards of concrete per hour.
[...]
Ashmore said officials have already notified Shaw AREVA MOX Services, which is building the MOX plant for the U.S. Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration, that the pump was being moved and will not be returned because it will become contaminated by radiation.
"It will be too hot to come back," Ashmore said.
[...]
There's a lot to be read in between those lines.
480 | EdDantes Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:45:09am |
re: #479 freetoken
Sounds like the Chernobyl solution. Not good.
483 | researchok Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:50:52am |
Moussa Koussa and the mystery of UTA Flight 772
The dramatic defection of Libya's former foreign minister Moussa Koussa to Britain has inevitably focused attention on what role he might have played in planning the 1988 Lockerbie bombing. But as Scottish police prepare to grill Col Gaddafi's one-time intelligence chief, counter-terrorism experts in France will be pressing for the opportunity to question him about another airborne atrocity laid at the door of the Libyan regime.
A powerful explosion aboard a DC-10 aircraft operated by the French-owned Union des Transport Aeriens (UTA) over the Sahara desert in September 1989 - less than a year after Pan Am flight 103 was blown up - killed all 170 passengers and crew.
The downing of Flight 772, bound from Brazzaville via Chad to Paris Charles de Gaulle, never attracted the level of international outrage that greeted the Lockerbie disaster, though the French authorities spent years investigating the explosion.
484 | freetoken Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:52:20am |
485 | researchok Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:55:57am |
487 | researchok Fri, Apr 1, 2011 2:59:34am |
re: #486 EdDantes
Chilling though
The silver lining is nuke design/procedures/regulation will be rewritten to higher standards.
488 | EdDantes Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:02:56am |
re: #487 researchok
The silver lining is nuke design/procedures/regulation will be rewritten to higher standards.
The Johnstown flood of 1889 killed 2200 almost instantly. I hope this disaster does exactly as you suggest.
489 | EdDantes Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:11:02am |
I hope the "Fukushima 50", regardless of their fate are remembered in the same way as the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. I'm repeating myself from a few days ago but they are sacrificing themselves for a noble goal.
491 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 4:26:09am |
494 | EdDantes Fri, Apr 1, 2011 4:35:34am |
re: #491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love that! charley Spleen!
495 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 4:49:29am |
I just occurred to me that I haven't seen anything from Gen. Powell regarding the Libyan war turd sandwich kinetic military action.
496 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 4:55:08am |
re: #495 RogueOne
What is a kinetic military action?
497 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:01:12am |
re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What is a kinetic military action?
That's what you call it when you don't want to use the "w" word. Lobbing missiles, once more with energy this time!
[Link: www.politico.com...]
498 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:01:24am |
re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh! I get it. Thank goodness that words make it better.
499 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:15:33am |
501 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:22:56am |
re: #497 RogueOne
Just another term thought up by the DOO. (Department of Obfuscation)
502 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:23:34am |
503 | treasured people Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:35:17am |
THEY SAY THERE IS A LAND
lyrics: Saul Tchernikovsky
music: Naomi Shemer
They say: There is a land,
a land drenched with sun.
Wherefore is that land?
Where is that sun?
They say: There is a land,
its pillars are seven,
seven planets,
spiringing up on every hill.
Where is that land,
the stars of that hill?
Who shall guide our way,
tell me my path?
Already have we passed several
deserts and oceans.
Already have we traversed several,
our strengths are ending.
How is it we have gone astray?
That not yet have we been left alone?
That land of sun,
that one we have not found.
A land where shall come to pass
what every man had hoped for,
Everyone who enters,
had met with Akiva.
Peace to you, Akiva!
Peace to you, Rabbi!
Where are the saints?
Where is the Maccabee?
Answers him Akiva,
answers him the Rabbi:
All of Israel is sainted,
you are the Maccabee!
Where is that land,
the stars of that hill?
Who shall guide our way,
tell me my path?
They say: There is a land,
a land drenched with sun…
Wherefore is that land?
Where is that sun?
504 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:39:22am |
Everything old is new again:
The War On Child Labor Laws: Maine Republicans Want Longer Hours, Lower Pay For Kids
LD 1346 suggests several significant changes to Maine’s child labor law, most notably a 180-day period during which workers under age 20 would earn $5.25 an hour.
The state’s current minimum wage is $7.50 an hour.
Rep. David Burns, R-Whiting, is sponsoring the bill, which also would eliminate the maximum number of hours a minor over 16 can work during school days.
42-skidoo!
/or something.
Morning folks.
505 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:39:57am |
re: #502 Alouette
Silly Rabbi! Trids are for kicks!
506 | Mr. Crankypants Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:40:59am |
507 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:41:08am |
509 | Romantic Heretic Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:43:19am |
re: #471 ggt
Gender seems to have little to do with it, you are right again.
It's about Power. Women with Power become, in many ways, what we think of as "male". Another reason some of the Fundamentalist Religious Whackos want to limit women. Can't handle the competition.
Those with Power want to manipulate those without.
I worked on a writing project with a woman in love with power.
That became obvious when I posted my opinion on something at a political forum. She sent me an e-mail making it clear that as long as I worked for her (we were co-authors) I was never again to post any opinions on politics anywhere ever again. And if I had to post, I had to send it to her so she could censor it before I posted it.
Needless to say the project fell apart after that.
I'll be honest. It was my first intimation of how bad things were going to get in the States, politically. She voted for McCain, and thought highly of Palin.
510 | Mr. Crankypants Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:45:11am |
re: #509 Romantic Heretic
I worked on a writing project with a woman in love with power.
That became obvious when I posted my opinion on something at a political forum. She sent me an e-mail making it clear that as long as I worked for her (we were co-authors) I was never again to post any opinions on politics anywhere ever again. And if I had to post, I had to send it to her so she could censor it before I posted it.
Needless to say the project fell apart after that.
I'll be honest. It was my first intimation of how bad things were going to get in the States, politically. She voted for McCain, and thought highly of Palin.
That seems to be a right wing/authoritarian thing going on. They seem dedicated to the idea of smaller government and government staying out of people's lives as long as it doesn't apply to them.
511 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:45:38am |
re: #504 iceweasel
"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"
E. Scrooge
Seriously though, how are we ever going to compete on a global level if we don't loosen our child labor laws. Minimum age and wage needs to be drastically lowered to compete.
513 | Mr. Crankypants Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:46:19am |
re: #509 Romantic Heretic
I worked on a writing project with a woman in love with power.
That became obvious when I posted my opinion on something at a political forum. She sent me an e-mail making it clear that as long as I worked for her (we were co-authors) I was never again to post any opinions on politics anywhere ever again. And if I had to post, I had to send it to her so she could censor it before I posted it.
Needless to say the project fell apart after that.
I'll be honest. It was my first intimation of how bad things were going to get in the States, politically. She voted for McCain, and thought highly of Palin.
And just how did she think she was going to enforce her dictums? That's what gets me. People who think they have power but really don't.
514 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:46:32am |
re: #509 Romantic Heretic
I worked on a writing project with a woman in love with power.
That became obvious when I posted my opinion on something at a political forum. She sent me an e-mail making it clear that as long as I worked for her (we were co-authors) I was never again to post any opinions on politics anywhere ever again. And if I had to post, I had to send it to her so she could censor it before I posted it.
Needless to say the project fell apart after that.
I'll be honest. It was my first intimation of how bad things were going to get in the States, politically. She voted for McCain, and thought highly of Palin.
Did you have a contract with her describing your writing duties and riders as to your public activities will attached to this project?
515 | Mr. Crankypants Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:47:15am |
re: #512 prairiefire
Jobless rate declines to 8.8%![Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
It's all Obama's fault!!! Unless it's good news, then he had nothing to do with it.
(Predicting GOPer response to this)
516 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:49:18am |
re: #515 PT Barnum
"If there's a paycheck in it? I'll believe in anything you say."
-Winston Zeddemore
517 | Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:51:05am |
re: #512 prairiefire
Sometimes all that glitters isn't gold:
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
518 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:51:33am |
re: #510 PT Barnum
That seems to be a right wing/authoritarian thing going on. They seem dedicated to the idea of smaller government and government staying out of people's lives as long as it doesn't apply to them.
Beverly LaHaye, wife of Tim LaHaye (Left Behind author), is president of Concerned Women of America, and spends her time touring the country giving speeches about how a woman's place is in the home.
Cognitive dissonance, it's what's for dinner.
519 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:52:24am |
re: #515 PT Barnum
It's all Obama's fault!!! Unless it's good news, then he had nothing to do with it.
(Predicting GOPer response to this)
No... this wasn't President Obama's fault... apparently he didn't have much to do with it at all...
Private employers, the backbone of the economy, drove nearly all of the gains. They added 230,000 jobs last month, on top of 240,000 in February. It was the first time private hiring topped 200,000 in back-to-back months since 2006 -- more than a year before the recession started.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Funny how that works?
520 | Romantic Heretic Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:54:20am |
re: #513 PT Barnum
She was also chief editor at the company publishing the books, and a close friend of the owner. She also made it clear my posting what I did was "unprofessional", with the sotto voce implication that she'd spread the word around if I didn't do what I was told.
In this day and age being called unprofessional is like being accused of child molestation. Just the accusation is enough.
re: #514 Walter L. Newton
No. We had been friends for several years before that. I trusted her.
I don't trust written contracts. If a person's word isn't good no contract will help.
521 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:55:43am |
re: #518 iceweasel
Beverly LaHaye, wife of Tim LaHaye (Left Behind author), is president of Concerned Women of America, and spends her time touring the country giving speeches about how a woman's place is in the home.
Cognitive dissonance, it's what's for dinner.
Her and Phyillis whatsherface both eh. Interesting factoid I've learned though, in the 70's both Republican first ladies: Pat Nixon and Betty Ford both supported the ERA while Rosylnn Carter I believe opposed. On a personal note but also politically, I always liked the Fords. I think Gerald Ford's probably the last Republican presidential nominee I can see myself voting for. I am not that big on Carter.
522 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:58:13am |
Morning people, so I face an interesting quagmire as what to take for my final history class which will involved a 20-30 page paper. My choices are Revolutionary Russia which covers Russia from 1880-1930 and the THird Reich and the Holocaust which covers Germany from the rise of the Third Reich in the 20's up until the end of the war in 1945. It's a tough choice since I am interested in both fields and have taken a course with the professor offering the Russian history course. My Russian/Soviet history interests mostly lie in the period after 1930. So, it's an interesting quagmire. A good problem to have and think over this weekend.
523 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 5:59:56am |
re: #520 Romantic Heretic
re: #514 Walter L. NewtonNo. We had been friends for several years before that. I trusted her.
I don't trust written contracts. If a person's word isn't good no contract will help.
Then it sounds like that was her mistake. She should have had a contract detailing your duties in the writing project and stating any conditions that she would have considered detrimental to the project, such as you making public political statements that could reflect on the company, the project or her. As a "freind" she probably assumed too much, should have been in writing.
Standard procedure, Juan Williams is well aware of that.
524 | Jadespring Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:05:58am |
Morning all.
Just taking a break from my raccoon battle.
So far I'm losing....
525 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:15:42am |
re: #524 Jadespring
Morning all.
Just taking a break from my raccoon battle.
So far I'm losing...
What seems to be the issue? I have a little bit of experience in the raccoon-wrangling area.
526 | Jadespring Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:22:01am |
re: #525 thedopefishlives
What seems to be the issue? I have a little bit of experience in the raccoon-wrangling area.
Two raccoons are up the tree right outside my chicken coop.
My guardian dog woke me up with some crazy barking. I think she treed them. I knew they were unlikely to leave with the dog there so I locked her up and left them.
They didn't move. It's like they're thinking, if we don't move maybe we can hide. I tried throwing rocks but my aim stinks and it's really high up. I tried the hubby's slingshot and only manage to punch myself in the face. Tried to get a hose out but the damn thing is frozen.
So now I'm trying to figure out what to try next. Can't let the chickens out or the dogs out while they're still there.
527 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:23:56am |
re: #526 Jadespring
I tried the hubby's slingshot and only manage to punch myself in the face.
HAHAHAHAHA!
528 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:24:39am |
re: #526 Jadespring
Hmm, yeah, that's a bit beyond my experience. I'm more in the area of figuring out how to trap the conniving little buggers.
529 | sagehen Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:25:04am |
re: #520 Romantic Heretic
I don't trust written contracts. If a person's word isn't good no contract will help.
Even trustworthy people have memory lapses. Written contacts save on the confusion; they also force the parties to consider contingencies they might not otherwise think to discuss before making the agreement.
530 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:25:37am |
re: #526 Jadespring
Two raccoons are up the tree right outside my chicken coop.
My guardian dog woke me up with some crazy barking. I think she treed them. I knew they were unlikely to leave with the dog there so I locked her up and left them.They didn't move. It's like they're thinking, if we don't move maybe we can hide. I tried throwing rocks but my aim stinks and it's really high up. I tried the hubby's slingshot and only manage to punch myself in the face. Tried to get a hose out but the damn thing is frozen.
So now I'm trying to figure out what to try next. Can't let the chickens out or the dogs out while they're still there.
Got a gun?
531 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:27:26am |
re: #528 thedopefishlives
Hmm, yeah, that's a bit beyond my experience. I'm more in the area of figuring out how to trap the conniving little buggers.
Last time I had to deal with raccoons was in the 60's. Domesticated one of them and made a pet out of it. Walked it on a leash like a dog, it went everywhere with us.
532 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:28:02am |
re: #526 Jadespring
[Link: www.getridofthings.com...]
533 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:28:10am |
re: #519 Walter L. Newton
The Camber Of Commerce listened to him.
534 | reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:30:58am |
re: #526 Jadespring
Two raccoons are up the tree right outside my chicken coop.
My guardian dog woke me up with some crazy barking. I think she treed them. I knew they were unlikely to leave with the dog there so I locked her up and left them.They didn't move. It's like they're thinking, if we don't move maybe we can hide. I tried throwing rocks but my aim stinks and it's really high up. I tried the hubby's slingshot and only manage to punch myself in the face. Tried to get a hose out but the damn thing is frozen.
So now I'm trying to figure out what to try next. Can't let the chickens out or the dogs out while they're still there.
Aren't they mostly nocturnal? They may not move until nighttime.
535 | Talking Point Detective Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:33:16am |
Interesting article about Kerry Emanuel - a Republican climate scientist who testified for Congress yesterday about the dangers of climate change.
He discusses is party affiliation - and surprise, surprise, why he is considering changing parties due to the anti-science character of today's Republican Party.
[Link: articles.latimes.com...]
536 | McSpiff Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:35:35am |
re: #448 goddamnedfrank
Think about getting a MobileMe account and syncing your new phone with it. There's an iPhone/iPod Touch finder app that you can use to find any lost devices you've synced to your account.
The Find my Phone app is actually free for the iPhone 4, so no need to pay the $100 a year.
537 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:36:50am |
A few years ago I was having a problem with the 'coons getting into my garbage cans so I fabricated an easy lock so they couldn't get the lids off again. While I was out of town I got a call from my wife laughing her butt off. The dogs had woken her up in the middle of the night because a 'coon was trying to get into the trash. She watched him until he gave up and took off. Awhile later the 'coon came back with a buddy and together they knocked my trash cans over and rolled them into the woods. I found one but not the other. I have no idea what they did with it.
538 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:37:51am |
re: #537 RogueOne
That there's funny, I don't care who y'are.
539 | Jadespring Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:38:51am |
re: #527 RogueOne
HAHAHAHAHA!
Yes it was funny. My own personal slapstick. At least I can laugh at it. :) re: #528 thedopefishlives
Hmm, yeah, that's a bit beyond my experience. I'm more in the area of figuring out how to trap the conniving little buggers.
No worries.
re: #530 Walter L. Newton
Got a gun?
No. I wish at least had a pellet gun right now.
re: #534 reine.de.tout
Aren't they mostly nocturnal? They may not move until nighttime.
That's what I'm afraid of.
Maybe it will get warm enough for the hose to unfreeze.
540 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:39:17am |
check out this wacko comment I found:
DEAR SIR VIOLENCE IS NEVER THE ANSWER WHETHER AGAINST A POOR DEFENSELESS BABY OR AN ADULT OF A PERSUASION THAT YOU DO NOT LIKE...............and on top of that the statements you have made are misleading do you forget what is a PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT another word for a communist....these communists are like the rest of the communists when they take over they KILL AND KILL AND KILL......... check out youtube and look at vids of communists being interviewed during a protest I can see these people CAPABLE of the usual communist actions ........something i found disturbing in the article is where they will keep aide going AGAIN IF YOU READ THIS MONEY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND IS ALL POLITICAL......USA SECURITY SO THAT MEANS SUPPORTING WHICH SIDE THE ONES THAT LIKE US OR THE ONES THAT DONT I WANT TO SEE WHO IS GOING TO GET THE MONEY THEY ARE GOING TO SEND
541 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:39:40am |
re: #538 thedopefishlives
That there's funny, I don't care who y'are.
Sneaky little bastards. I had to fabricate a little corral where they couldn't knock them down again.
542 | Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:39:48am |
re: #526 Jadespring
I tried the hubby's slingshot and only manage to punch myself in the face. Tried to get a hose out but the damn thing is frozen.
Oh ouch! Now that sequence of events would rile me pretty good.
543 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:39:56am |
re: #540 WindUpBird
some website called "foreignpolicy dot com" total wackos in the comments, great reading
544 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:40:04am |
re: #539 Jadespring
Maybe it will get warm enough for the hose to unfreeze.
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but make sure it's as unrolled as it can be and laying in the sun.
545 | Jadespring Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:41:34am |
re: #544 Walter L. Newton
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but make sure it's as unrolled as it can be and laying in the sun.
It is. I already made sure of it. Thanks :)
546 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:42:05am |
re: #540 WindUpBird
check out this wacko comment I found:
CAPITAL LETTERS, ANGRY, NOBAMA, COMMUNISM!
547 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:42:08am |
re: #541 RogueOne
Sneaky little bastards. I had to fabricate a little corral where they couldn't knock them down again.
When we first went to trapping the critters, my dad used a can of wet cat food for bait in the trap. The next morning, we went out to check the trap, and the can was gone. The trap was wide open, it was as if a ghost had come in the night and spirited away the can of cat food. Says Dad, "Two can play at that game, I'll fix the little bugger this time." So he drilled a hole in the side of the can and tied it into the trap with fishing line.
548 | Semper Fi Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:43:32am |
re: #539 Jadespring
Yes it was funny. My own personal slapstick. At least I can laugh at it. :) re: #528 thedopefishlives
No worries.
re: #530 Walter L. Newton
No. I wish at least had a pellet gun right now.
re: #534 reine.de.tout
That's what I'm afraid of.
Maybe it will get warm enough for the hose to unfreeze.
How long can chickens be cooped up before they're no longer considered free range?
Good morning everyone
549 | Jadespring Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:44:57am |
Oh wow. Go birds go!!!
Just sitting on my couch watching the damn things and a group of starlings has started bugging the heck out of them. They're circling and dive bombing. Guess they don't appreciate having them so close to their nests.
So far no movement though.
550 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:47:05am |
re: #540 WindUpBird
check out this wacko comment I found:
Here's who posted that comment...
Image: mortimer-snerd-dumbcrats-liberals-fail-political-poster-1300130660.jpg
551 | Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:47:25am |
re: #352 prononymous
While I believe that both parties are responsible for the problem, I don't think this is a cycle - it has been steady for a long time. Nor do I think it comes down to religion. I think it comes down to neither party being pragmatic when it comes to attracting business and maintaining economic stability - as well as the fact that our society buys mostly on cost regardless of other factors. Ideological stances might sound good but often break down in the real world.
Have a good night.
Morning.
By cycle I mean boom/bust. Over extend/come back to reality and maybe recover for another boom. Maybe. That's relatively short term, but in the long term civilizations have a way of evolving, sometimes badly.
By religion, I don't dismiss the pure religion aspect, which drives many politicians who think they are the chosen ones, but also the somewhat related aspect of economic and political religion. Specifically, taxes are bad and economic controls are bad (only personal controls are good), which leads to the conclusion is that every American entrepreneur needs to be able to compete without help against the entire Chinese nation, for example.
And to take Florida and its bald Tea Party governor as an example; build no infrastructure if it can't be guaranteed to make a profit fast, in the narrowest possible sense.
We buy on cost, but tell me how much manual labor cost goes into making LED or Fluorescent bulbs? I suspect virtually none. It is a capital intensive operation and the machinery in China costs the same as it would in the USA. Why can they do it and we can't?
552 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:48:34am |
re: #540 WindUpBird
check out this wacko comment I found:DEAR SIR VIOLENCE IS NEVER THE ANSWER WHETHER AGAINST A POOR DEFENSELESS BABY OR AN ADULT OF A PERSUASION THAT YOU DO NOT LIKE...and on top of that the statements you have made are misleading do you forget what is a PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT another word for a communist...these communists are like the rest of the communists when they take over they KILL AND KILL AND KILL...
I wanted the clip with 'urge to kill fading....RISING...fading'but couldn't find it.
553 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:51:08am |
re: #522 HappyWarrior
Morning people, so I face an interesting quagmire as what to take for my final history class which will involved a 20-30 page paper. My choices are Revolutionary Russia which covers Russia from 1880-1930 and the THird Reich and the Holocaust which covers Germany from the rise of the Third Reich in the 20's up until the end of the war in 1945. It's a tough choice since I am interested in both fields and have taken a course with the professor offering the Russian history course. My Russian/Soviet history interests mostly lie in the period after 1930. So, it's an interesting quagmire. A good problem to have and think over this weekend.
My two cents: take Revolutionary Russia.
Most important, it'll help you break the tendency of folk to think of the center as the German/French border. A /lot/ of what Germany did from 1920 through 1945 was driven by what happened in Russia 1880-1920. Further, much of what Russia was and did during and after WWII is driven by what happened during the revolution. If you look Germany's military deployments in WWII you'll notice the majority goes east, not west, and this will expand the correct but incomplete explanation of seizing oilfields.
The on the other hand is also the reason I make the recommendation. There is much more material available for the German history - just browse the library shelves for a quick confirmation. In the short term this would make your German paper easier given the surplus of material. In the long term, however, it means when you want to increase your knowledge you're stuck with that same imbalance, and add the lack of a knowledgeable guide (your professor) to assist.
554 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:54:15am |
re: #553 kirkspencer
My two cents: take Revolutionary Russia.
Most important, it'll help you break the tendency of folk to think of the center as the German/French border. A /lot/ of what Germany did from 1920 through 1945 was driven by what happened in Russia 1880-1920. Further, much of what Russia was and did during and after WWII is driven by what happened during the revolution. If you look Germany's military deployments in WWII you'll notice the majority goes east, not west, and this will expand the correct but incomplete explanation of seizing oilfields.
The on the other hand is also the reason I make the recommendation. There is much more material available for the German history - just browse the library shelves for a quick confirmation. In the short term this would make your German paper easier given the surplus of material. In the long term, however, it means when you want to increase your knowledge you're stuck with that same imbalance, and add the lack of a knowledgeable guide (your professor) to assist.
Thanks, I am weighing both heavily and you're right about the East being of huge importance to understanding WWII. An English professor of mine of all people brought that up (I'm an English minor) and he brought it up in regards to the Polish-Russian immigrants we just got done reading about in a collection of short stories. To clarify, I've taken regular courses on both Russian mostly Soviet history and German. Enjoyed both heavily.
555 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:54:47am |
One down, seven to go. Needed signatures gained in half the time to recall WI senator Dan Kapanke:[Link: lacrossetribune.com...]
556 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:56:31am |
re: #547 thedopefishlives
When we first went to trapping the critters, my dad used a can of wet cat food for bait in the trap. The next morning, we went out to check the trap, and the can was gone. The trap was wide open, it was as if a ghost had come in the night and spirited away the can of cat food. Says Dad, "Two can play at that game, I'll fix the little bugger this time." So he drilled a hole in the side of the can and tied it into the trap with fishing line.
I have a friend who tried trapping a coon and instead woke up with a very pissed-off possum in the cage. He had to call animal control because he couldn't figure out how to get it out of the cage without getting bit.
557 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:58:28am |
Cops, firefighters turn on the GOP:[Link: www.politico.com...]
558 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:03:52am |
re: #557 prairiefire
There's also a Ben Smith link this morning to WND that I found very amusing. I won't post but I'll guide people to it:
Birthers suspicious of Trump's foreign mother.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
559 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:04:44am |
re: #551 Naso Tang
If you're referring to the HSR link between Tampa and Orlando, then you've got to also consider that the numbers just don't make sense. If you're going to do HSR, you need a population density to make that workable, and that corridor doesn't have it. Moreover, if the idea is to get people out of cars, HSR linking those two cities will simply move people from one rail station to the other - and you'd still need a car to see the various attractions that are no where near rail - think Disney, Sea World, Busch Gardens, etc.
A more economical use of those limited HSR dollars is to make absolutely critical improvements on the NEC - replacing the Portal Bridge which is the site of more bottlenecks and incidents than pretty much anywhere else in the country (the 100 year old swing-bridge is obsolete, routinely fails to operate as it should, and marine traffic causes delays nearly daily). Upgrading the power systems on the NEC should be right behind the Portal Bridge. Then, the new Hudson River tunnels, and a tunnel in Baltimore. Those changes would shave significant time off the commute, improve on-time performance, and makes a whole lot more sense when you look at total current and expected ridership.
But the HSR money was spread all over the place - in the hopes that some project will move ahead to the point where it gets completed eventually. The CA HSR project has just a fraction of the tens of billions needed to get its full system operational, but the initial section is in a more remote area of the state, where the initial acquisition costs are cheaper - just to get something built. That too is what happened in FL - the acquisition costs were low b/c the right of way was the Interstate - federal land, so there wasn't a need to acquire new ROW.
Even though the backers of the FL project claimed to have found a public/private partnership to cover overruns, the Gov canned the project b/c he claimed the state would be on the hook for the overruns.
That's a substantially different situation than the ARC tunnel in NJ, which Gov. Christie canned b/c NJ would be on the hook for all overruns, and NY and the feds weren't going to kick in a dime towards overruns (or in NY's case - nothing at all for any aspect of the project that would significantly benefit NY). The replacement proposal - the Gateway project, would have funding come from NY and NJ, and Amtrak would be the overall manager, but some transit observers complain that NJ Transit gets shorted b/c they wont run nearly as many trains into Manhattan (my rebuttal is that NJ Transit can't afford to run its current fleet - and engaged in schedule cuts - so there's little chance that they can add train service once a new tunnel opens without significantly jacking up fares, which is a self-defeating purpose since the last increase in fares saw a decrease in ridership).
560 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:05:47am |
re: #558 RogueOne
Yeah, cuz the Scots are sooo scary. Actually, maybe so in a bar brawl.
561 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:08:58am |
re: #560 prairiefire
Yeah, cuz the Scots are sooo scary. Actually, maybe so in a bar brawl.
Trump is obviously a Scottish Muslim. Gosh, though they're suspicious of him for having a foreign born mother. Both of Andrew Jackson's folks were from Ulster. Do birthers seriously think you can't be American fi your folks are foreign born? That seems to be the implication first with Obama and now Trump.
562 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:10:00am |
re: #561 HappyWarrior
Trump is obviously a Scottish Muslim. Gosh, though they're suspicious of him for having a foreign born mother. Both of Andrew Jackson's folks were from Ulster. Do birthers seriously think you can't be American fi your folks are foreign born? That seems to be the implication first with Obama and now Trump.
One could argue, then, that the only Americans are the Native Americans. I doubt that's what these idiots have in mind, though.
563 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:10:10am |
re: #561 HappyWarrior
Trump is obviously a Scottish Muslim. Gosh, though they're suspicious of him for having a foreign born mother. Both of Andrew Jackson's folks were from Ulster. Do birthers seriously think you can't be American fi your folks are foreign born? That seems to be the implication first with Obama and now Trump.
Its not very good critical thinking, that's for sure.
564 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:11:34am |
re: #562 thedopefishlives
One could argue, then, that the only Americans are the Native Americans. I doubt that's what these idiots have in mind, though.
Ha, yeah I doubt it.
565 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:12:14am |
Wow, people are really paying attention to the new congress ~
"But by the time the new House Republican majority arrived in Washington in January shouting a mantra of spending cuts rather than the campaign slogan of jobs, the percentage of trade union members who called themselves Democrats jumped to 63 percent while the self-described Republicans fell to 18 percent – and that was before the Wisconsin and Ohio collective bargaining fights went from rumors to the nation’s front pages."
566 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:12:52am |
re: #563 prairiefire
Its not very good critical thinking, that's for sure.
Yeah the whole kock they have on Obama seems to be that his father was foreign born (so, what?) and he spent much of his childhood abroad (using their logic children of diplomats & servicepeople aren't real Americans*.
567 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:14:36am |
re: #560 prairiefire
Yeah, cuz the Scots are sooo scary. Actually, maybe so in a bar brawl.
You've never heard of the Glasgow Kiss?
Or seen trainspotting?
/
568 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:15:59am |
re: #558 RogueOne
There's also a Ben Smith link this morning to WND that I found very amusing. I won't post but I'll guide people to it:
Birthers suspicious of Trump's foreign mother.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
I love it. The irony is positively delicious. Live by the derp, die by the derp.
569 | Lidane Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:16:08am |
re: #566 HappyWarrior
Yeah the whole kock they have on Obama seems to be that his father was foreign born (so, what?) and he spent much of his childhood abroad (using their logic children of diplomats & servicepeople aren't real Americans*.
But he's a Scary Black Man with a funny name, and he had the nerve to beat the old white guy to become POTUS. This is clearly unforgivable. ///
570 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:16:46am |
re: #567 iceweasel
That clip needs subtitles. Sounded like they were speaking Ozzy.
571 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:17:21am |
It's April 1st... everyone up early looking waiting for their welfare checks?
572 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:17:35am |
re: #566 HappyWarrior
Yeah the whole kock they have on Obama seems to be that his father was foreign born (so, what?) and he spent much of his childhood abroad (using their logic children of diplomats & servicepeople aren't real Americans*.
I know someone 2 and 1/2 years ago who had a very emotional response to Obama's years in Indonesia. "I don't know, it's a very foreign place." Scarrrrrryyyy!
She jumped right on that as a safe defense of her fear and hatred.
573 | Lidane Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:18:09am |
re: #567 iceweasel
You've never heard of the Glasgow Kiss?
Or the Glasgow smile? Think Heath Ledger's version of The Joker and you'll know what it looks like.
574 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:18:42am |
re: #572 prairiefire
If we're not careful those foreigners will start moving here or something. Pretty soon they'll put up a big statue welcoming them in! Stay vigilant.
575 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:19:08am |
re: #570 RogueOne
That clip needs subtitles. Sounded like they were speaking Ozzy.
Seriously?
My own babel fish isn't working properly yet here. I can understand trainspotting, but sometimes I can't understand a few people here because of their accent.
576 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:19:09am |
re: #571 Walter L. Newton
No, just preparing the flounce manifestos, or signing on with the NBPP.
Me, I'm preparing to announce my signing on with Alex Jones as his new spokesman.
577 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:19:11am |
re: #567 iceweasel
You've never heard of the Glasgow Kiss?
Or seen trainspotting?
[Video]/
I grew up with hard charging Scottish American men. I'm a descendent of the original Farmer Brown./
578 | HappyWarrior Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:20:21am |
re: #572 prairiefire
I know someone 2 and 1/2 years ago who had a very emotional response to Obama's years in Indonesia. "I don't know, it's a very foreign place." Scarrryyy!
She jumped right on that as a safe defense of her fear and hatred.
It just sounds ridiculous to me. I mean yeah certainly Obama's upbringing was different in that he spend some years of his childhood abroad but in a way everyone's experiences are different.I for one get most angry when the nuts attack Obama's parents especially his mother.
579 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:20:49am |
re: #575 iceweasel
Seriously?
My own babel fish isn't working properly yet here. I can understand trainspotting, but sometimes I can't understand a few people here because of their accent.
My great-great-grandfather moved to Kentucky from somewhere in scotland. I can understand hillbilly but the scot accent stumps me.
580 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:21:10am |
re: #573 Lidane
Or the Glasgow smile? Think Heath Ledger's version of The Joker and you'll know what it looks like.
Ugh, I hadn't heard of that one. Stabby old Scotland.
Jimmah's dad is visiting us this week, arriving today. It's going to mean a lot of pub time.
I'm making lasagna. I will not deep fry it. /
581 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:21:47am |
re: #561 HappyWarrior
Trump is obviously a Scottish Muslim. Gosh, though they're suspicious of him for having a foreign born mother. Both of Andrew Jackson's folks were from Ulster. Do birthers seriously think you can't be American fi your folks are foreign born? That seems to be the implication first with Obama and now Trump.
As LVQ has frequently noted and others like me have added, there's a strong echo of 1930s Germany to these people. In this case I note again the Nuremberg and Reich Citizenshiplaws. (Simplistically, the summary is the former said only first class citizens had all rights, and the latter defined first class citizens as those who had all parents and grandparents born in Germany - with the exception of those with at least one Jew in the set.)
582 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:23:34am |
re: #575 iceweasel
Seriously?
My own babel fish isn't working properly yet here. I can understand trainspotting, but sometimes I can't understand a few people here because of their accent.
They could do it on purpose. Watch to see if they get a smug smile on their face.
584 | prairiefire Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:28:16am |
585 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:29:19am |
Where is Killgore?
Pentagon Art: $600,000 Gurgling Toad Sculpture
A $600,000 frog sculpture that lights up, gurgles "sounds of nature" and carries a 10-foot fairy girl on its back could soon be greeting Defense Department employees who plan to start working at the $700 million Mark Center in Alexandria, Va. this fall. That is unless a new controversy over the price tag of the public art doesn't torpedo the idea.
Decried as wasteful spending that will be seen by just a couple thousand of daily workers who arrive on bus shuttles, foes have tried to delay the decision, expected tomorrow, April 1. But in an E-mail, an Army Corps of Engineers official said that the decision can't be held up because it would impact completion of the huge project.
586 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:31:13am |
Wis. Dems To File First Recall Petitions Against GOP State Sen. Dan Kapanke
Recall organizer Pat Scheller said volunteers have gathered more than the 15,588 signatures needed and that they plan to take them to Madison after a noon rally today at La Crosse City Hall.It is expected to be the first completed of 19 active recall efforts registered between Feb. 24 and March 2 against 16 senators.
587 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:32:23am |
588 | Lidane Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:35:46am |
Going to the Google homepage and searching for Helvetica changes everything on the screen to Comic Sans. LOL!
589 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:36:14am |
re: #579 RogueOne
My great-great-grandfather moved to Kentucky from somewhere in scotland. I can understand hillbilly but the scot accent stumps me.
Some of my family on the Irish side speak in an accent so thick I literally have no idea what they are saying half the time. I'll ask them to repeat themselves a few times, then one of them will ultimately answer me in their best impression of an American accent, which I must say is hilarious. I never really realized how nasal the American accent must sound to a foreigner before that.
590 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:37:42am |
re: #588 Lidane
Going to the Google homepage and searching for Helvetica changes everything on the screen to Comic Sans. LOL!
Google always does pretty good with their April Fool's easter eggs.
591 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:38:08am |
BENGHAZI, Libya — Libya's rebels will agree to a cease-fire if Muammar al-Qaddafi pulls his military forces out of cities and allows peaceful protests against his regime, an opposition leader said Friday.
Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
592 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:38:43am |
re: #585 iceweasel
Where is Killgore?
...Decried as wasteful spending that will be seen by just a couple thousand of daily workers who arrive on bus shuttles...
This argument has always stuck in my craw. Nobody objects to the art being put where only executives can see it, but put something up for "just the commuters" and we get this two-pronged (by implication) argument: too few see it, and they wouldn't appreciate it anyway.
Bah.
593 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:39:49am |
re: #585 iceweasel
Where is Killgore?
I'm all for supporting the arts, but holy crap, that doesn't mean we have to buy the artist a new yacht for what couldn't represent more than a couple months worth of work. A dozen artists could be supported for a year on that kind of money.
595 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:41:03am |
re: #593 Fozzie Bear
I'm all for supporting the arts, but holy crap, that doesn't mean we have to buy the artist a new yacht for what couldn't represent more than a couple months worth of work. A dozen artists could be supported for a year on that kind of money.
That thing is fuggin ugly.
596 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:43:33am |
re: #592 kirkspencer
Seriously, though, 600 large for that? We can support the arts without dumping heaps of cash on one individual artist. I enthusiastically support patronage of the arts, but obviously, the artist who made that sculpture doesn't need the government's help if he is charging that kind of money for a single sculpture.
597 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:44:15am |
598 | Lidane Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:44:17am |
re: #590 thedopefishlives
Google always does pretty good with their April Fool's easter eggs.
I saw this one the second time around:
[Link: www.google.com...]
I finally found my summer internship. Hehe.
599 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:48:45am |
re: #593 Fozzie Bear
I'm all for supporting the arts, but holy crap, that doesn't mean we have to buy the artist a new yacht for what couldn't represent more than a couple months worth of work. A dozen artists could be supported for a year on that kind of money.
And that tells me you haven't sculpted - or for that matter, haven't tried to make an art business run.
A sculpt of that size is pretty close to a year long project. It's going to require a lot of laborers, too, not least being those at the foundry shop who will, I promise, charge their fair share for molding, pouring, and casting the pieces. Gotta haul the pieces to the site (which has to be prepared to accept that much concentrated weight) and somebody(s) has to hold the pieces in place while they're welded. Then there's cleaning and polishing the welds and putting on the patina. You've got to pay for the wax and the clay and the bracing rods while sculpting and for each of the intermediate stages and...
Unless the artist is a "name" the odds are he or she won't make much more than 10% as "income". That's $60,000 for a year of work.
600 | Interesting Times Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:49:53am |
[Link: mail.google.com...]
The mouse and keyboard were invented before the Internet even existed. Since then, countless technological advancements have allowed for much more efficient human computer interaction. Why then do we continue to use outdated technology? Introducing Gmail Motion -- now you can control Gmail with your body.
:D
601 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:54:50am |
re: #596 Fozzie Bear
Seriously, though, 600 large for that? We can support the arts without dumping heaps of cash on one individual artist. I enthusiastically support patronage of the arts, but obviously, the artist who made that sculpture doesn't need the government's help if he is charging that kind of money for a single sculpture.
Since the wingnuts have been excited about the story for the past few days I just assume the numbers are probably exaggerated or there's more to the story. It's probably part of a new wave to defund the National Endowment for the Arts. We have much bigger fiscal problems than artists, teachers and birth control.
602 | elizajane Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:57:15am |
re: #599 kirkspencer
Thank you, good points about costs vs. benefits in a large, complex sculpture.
I went to the website of the artist, Cheryl Foster. She's made some wonderful things, gorgeous mosaics. She is an interesting artist and very eclectic. However, I just feel like she made a poor decision on this one. The planned sculpture is slightly ridiculous and doesn't seem particularly appropriate to its context. It leaves her and her patron open to ridicule, which his what it's getting.
603 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:58:21am |
re: #596 Fozzie Bear
Seriously, though, 600 large for that? We can support the arts without dumping heaps of cash on one individual artist. I enthusiastically support patronage of the arts, but obviously, the artist who made that sculpture doesn't need the government's help if he is charging that kind of money for a single sculpture.
I seriously doubt she's going to get 600 grand. That's likely the total price for the artwork and installation. She won't be getting 600K.
604 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:00:46am |
re: #599 kirkspencer
I have a large format metal sculptor in my family. He makes pieces far larger and more complex than that thing for about 1/6 the cost, and he lives very, very well. I'm not buying that that thing cost anywhere near 600k to produce. Not even close.
Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure was inflated by wingnut critics of the NEA, and institution which, if anything, should have far more funding than it does. I'm just commenting on that particular piece, assuming it cost what the article says it does.
(Not only that, but really, that thing is fugly. That is not some kind of groundbreaking work. My grandmother wears cheesy knit sweaters with more thought-provoking teddy bears on them than that thing.)
605 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:01:00am |
re: #602 elizajane
Thank you, good points about costs vs. benefits in a large, complex sculpture.
I went to the website of the artist, Cheryl Foster. She's made some wonderful things, gorgeous mosaics. She is an interesting artist and very eclectic. However, I just feel like she made a poor decision on this one. The planned sculpture is slightly ridiculous and doesn't seem particularly appropriate to its context. It leaves her and her patron open to ridicule, which his what it's getting.
Now that argument makes sense. Me, I like the whimsy - yet another commuter, just a slightly different ride.
I'll also point out that there were apparently several original suggestions, and this is one of the final four. So while Cheryl Foster may or may not have made a poor decision, it was good enough to get to this point.
606 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:02:04am |
Outrage! But let's not mention that the total project for this site is almost 1 billion and it's for the Army Corps of Engineers. So, here's what I found:
BRAC: Mark Center Transportation Center Public Art Project Look for Cheryl Foster. Here's her website.
First link has links to the proposal, display board, and sculpture image. Again it's under Cheryl Foster.
607 | elizajane Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:04:01am |
re: #606 Gus 802
Outrage! But let's not mention that the total project for this site is almost 1 billion and it's for the Army Corps of Engineers.
Ah, so, the entire project was massively expensive, but the outrage is over a work of art that represents a minuscule fraction of that budget.
My God, how predictable can the right wing get?
608 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:04:11am |
Other than that... Jimmy crack corn, and I don't care...
Did you hear the one about the US Army soldiers that murdered Afghan civilian "for the fun of it"? And many in their unit didn't say a peep even when they knew this was going on? Now that's something to be outraged about. Think of how much money was spent on training these "soldiers".
609 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:05:48am |
re: #607 elizajane
I imagine they'll be sending her hate emails and phone messages. Because that's what wingers do.
610 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:06:08am |
re: #594 lawhawk
Hey Lawhawk! Since you are here and since we are talking about art, maybe you can solve a mystery for me. On the opening credits of the TV show Damages they do a montage of NYC places & show a statue (I think it might be lady justice, but maybe not) but the figure is standing on skulls. Do you know this one?
611 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:06:21am |
re: #608 Gus 802
Theres a term for what happened there: war crimes. I hope those soldiers get a full and fair investigation into that matter, and that turns out to indeed be what really happened, they should be dealt with as we deal with any other war criminals.
612 | The Left Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:06:39am |
re: #608 Gus 802
Other than that... Jimmy crack corn, and I don't care...
Did you hear the one about the US Army soldiers that murdered Afghan civilian "for the fun of it"? And many in their unit didn't say a peep even when they knew this was going on? Now that's something to be outraged about. Think of how much money was spent on training these "soldiers".
I did hear, and I didn't page it because I was so disgusted and just worn out.
613 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:06:51am |
614 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:08:45am |
Sort of an update on the Connick v. Thompson supreme court ruling last week:
The Criminal Justice System and Prosecutorial Immunity: Time to Upset the Apple Cart
[Link: thetrialwarrior.com...]
“Why”, as one commenter, Ted Folkman asked “was the prosecutor who was the actual wrongdoer not liable?” Could not the plaintiff simply have sued the prosecutor who intentionally withheld the evidence of the crime lab report? Even Justice Scalia’s concurrence refers to the “miscreant prosecutor Gerry Deegan’s willful suppression of evidence…in an effort to railroad Thompson”.The short answer is No. In Imbler v. Pachtman, 424 U.S. 409 (1976), the U.S. Supreme Court established absolute immunity for district attorneys or prosecutors from civil suits resulting from their government duties.
Some will argue that Imbler does not go so far, as prosecutors are subject to criminal prosecution or professional discipline by state bar associations for suppressing evidence or otherwise putting the administration of justice into disrepute.
No. Not really.
As Margaret Z. Johns in her article, “ Reconsidering Absolute Prosecutorial Immunity ” 2005 BYU L. REV. 53 at 69-71 notes:
“…just as the adversary process fails to prevent or correct prosecutorial misconduct, disciplinary proceedings are also inadequate to address the problem because they are rarely instituted against prosecutors. Specifically, the report by the Center for Public Integrity found that since 1970 there were more than 2000 cases of prosecutorial misconduct requiring appellate correction for harmful error. But there were only forty-four instances in which disciplinary action was taken and only two disbarments.
615 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:10:52am |
Your daily dose of racism from Fox Nation: Democrats Seek to 'Dissolve' Majority White Cities in Georgia
This is some sorry cr@p. There are Two main groups of racists in this country, skin heads and bl@cks. Guess who's the bigger racists?
....
We have bent over backwards to extend opportunity after opportunity to the blee acks to advance themselves. Du mb ed down our whole educational system so they can feel equal. Lowered job testing so they won't actually have to have accomplished anything to get a job. Paid for homes,food, education and medical care ,just to mention a few things. And now cities are to wh ite. GIVE ME A BRE AK
616 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:11:05am |
re: #613 Fozzie Bear
*and IF that turns out to be...
PIMF
Well. It did happen. Cpl. Jeremy Morlock was sentenced to 24 years. The investigation continues on the "Kill Team".
617 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:11:05am |
re: #606 Gus 802
It's my understanding that many localities require that a percentage of construction costs for these kinds of projects goes for art installations, so that amount may well be within the percentage allocated for those purposes. For example, if you're building in NYC, there's a requirement that no less than 1% of the first $20 million dollars, plus no less than 0.5% of the amount over $20 million dollars be allocated for art work in any public building that is owned by the city (max $400,000).
618 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:12:30am |
re: #611 Fozzie Bear
Theres a term for what happened there: war crimes. I hope those soldiers get a full and fair investigation into that matter, and that turns out to indeed be what really happened, they should be dealt with as we deal with any other war criminals.
One has already taken a plea deal:
[Link: www.seattlepi.com...]
There was a small group involved and they were narked out by a fellow soldier. The rolling stone piece has some bad exaggerations which is totally unnecessary since the story is bad enough on its own.
619 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:13:55am |
re: #614 RogueOne
In practice, state bar associations almost never do more than disbar attorneys guilty of that sort of malfeasance. Losing your professional license for deliberately using the justice system as one's personal army doesn't seem to me to be a proportional response.
There are stories regarding things I have seen DA's do which unfortunately I can't tell here that would curl your hair. The bar association doesn't even blink at these kinds of charges. As a matter of practice, the PA bar never goes after DA's. Ever. It almost doesn't matter what they do.
620 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:14:39am |
re: #606 Gus 802
Don't care. They shouldn't be doing it.
621 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:14:42am |
re: #616 Gus 802
Well. It did happen. Cpl. Jeremy Morlock was sentenced to 24 years. The investigation continues on the "Kill Team".
Morlock: what an appropriate name.
622 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:15:37am |
re: #619 Fozzie Bear
When you start off with the assumption that prosecutors/police are allowed to lie to defendants it can only go down hill from there.
623 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:15:54am |
624 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:18:01am |
re: #616 Gus 802
Well. It did happen. Cpl. Jeremy Morlock was sentenced to 24 years. The investigation continues on the "Kill Team".
On January 15th, 2010, U.S. soldiers in Bravo Company stationed near Kandahar executed an unarmed Afghan boy named Gul Mudin in the village of La Mohammad Kalay. Reports by soldiers at the scene indicate that Mudin was about 15 years old. According to sworn statements, two soldiers – Cpl. Jeremy Morlock and Pfc. Andrew Holmes – staged the killing to make it look like they had been under attack. Ordering the boy to stand still, they crouched behind a mud wall, tossed a grenade at him and opened fire from close range. This photograph shows Mudin’s body lying by the wall where he was killed.
In a break with protocol, the soldiers also took photographs of themselves celebrating their kill. In the photos, Morlock grins and gives a thumbs-up sign as he poses with Mudin’s body. Note that the boy’s right pinky finger appears to have been severed. Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs reportedly used a pair of razor-sharp medic’s shears to cut off the finger, which he presented to Holmes as a trophy for killing his first Afghan.
That's just indescribably sick. 24 years for that is a joke.
625 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:18:53am |
626 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:19:38am |
re: #610 Stanley Sea
Never watched the show, but if this:
Is the promo you're talking about, then the shot of the skulls (at 20 seconds) may not be from a statue of Justice but from a completely different sculpture, possibly from the NY County Courthouse at Foley Square - don't know for sure.
627 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:20:21am |
re: #624 Fozzie Bear
That's just indescribably sick. 24 years for that is a joke.
24 years is a joke -- he should have gotten life.
628 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:20:39am |
re: #622 RogueOne
When you start off with the assumption that prosecutors/police are allowed to lie to defendants it can only go down hill from there.
Dude, you have no idea. There are things that happen in courtrooms every day that never make the papers that would blow your fucking mind.
629 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:21:03am |
630 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:22:44am |
re: #626 lawhawk
On further review, it looks like this statue is the source of that image. It's located at the US Customs House in Lower Manhattan and designed by Daniel Chester French.
631 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:22:48am |
re: #626 lawhawk
Never watched the show, but if this:
[Video]Is the promo you're talking about, then the shot of the skulls (at 20 seconds) may not be from a statue of Justice but from a completely different sculpture, possibly from the NY County Courthouse at Foley Square - don't know for sure.
That's IT! I'm going to google fu this again.
632 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:22:52am |
re: #622 RogueOne
When you start off with the assumption that prosecutors/police are allowed to lie to defendants it can only go down hill from there.
Parenthetically, this is exactly the reason that the death penalty is unworkable in practice, imo. Too many innocent people are convicted, too often, for it to make sense. Life in prison is sufficient punishment for any crime.
633 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:23:09am |
re: #604 Fozzie Bear
I have a large format metal sculptor in my family. He makes pieces far larger and more complex than that thing for about 1/6 the cost, and he lives very, very well. I'm not buying that that thing cost anywhere near 600k to produce. Not even close.
Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure was inflated by wingnut critics of the NEA, and institution which, if anything, should have far more funding than it does. I'm just commenting on that particular piece, assuming it cost what the article says it does.
(Not only that, but really, that thing is fugly. That is not some kind of groundbreaking work. My grandmother wears cheesy knit sweaters with more thought-provoking teddy bears on them than that thing.)
Would you do me a favor? Talk to your sculptor uncle, taking him the specs and other info (found by #606 Gus 802), and ask him what he'd charge for making and installing a comparable work?
See, my experience is that my extended family always underestimates what I'd charge and overestimates how much I'm getting for my non-art and art work, and they do the same for the two sculptpors in my extended family as well. But I could be wrong, and invite fact to further inform my personal experience.
Secondarily - you think it fugly, I like it. Odd, how art works that way.
634 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:23:45am |
re: #629 Fozzie Bear
... in an Afghani prison, imo.
Probably not possible. In other AFPAK news... UN staff killed during protest in northern Afghanistan. 8 dead and apparently this was over some "Koran burning".
635 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:31:05am |
re: #620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't care. They shouldn't be doing it.
Well, it's not the artists fault obviously. That is if the spending is too high. If they don't want any artwork than they should ask for artwork. Otherwise, the artists will send proposals to make a living as we all have to do.
In the meantime. Americans will expend well over 600K in time an energy fuming over this sculpture. Funny how that works.
636 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:33:59am |
re: #635 Gus 802
Of course it is not the artist's fault. But, we ain't got the money to be spending it on this type of stuff.
Just ain't got the money.
637 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:35:34am |
Wingnut at Hot Air chimes in:
DADT gets repealed and a few months later the Pentagon wants a 10-foot fairy statue. Coincidence?
Mark1971 on April 1, 2011 at 8:45 AM
What an idiot. It's not for the Pentagon it's for the City of Alexandria. And a homophobe.
638 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:36:44am |
re: #636 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Of course it is not the artist's fault. But, we ain't got the money to be spending it on this type of stuff.
Just ain't got the money.
Yep. Not enough money. Although the irony here is that this is for a transportation center related to the Army Corps of Engineers. Now I'm thinking about hurricane Katrina.
639 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:37:01am |
re: #605 kirkspencer
Now that argument makes sense. Me, I like the whimsy - yet another commuter, just a slightly different ride.
I'll also point out that there were apparently several original suggestions, and this is one of the final four. So while Cheryl Foster may or may not have made a poor decision, it was good enough to get to this point.
Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion that the thing is a cheesy monstrosity. I'm sure the artist is a very sweet person, but if I was on the committee in charge of approving artworks, I would thumbs down this one.
640 | treasured people Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:39:04am |
re: #634 Gus 802
From your link:
'Protesters shouted "Death to the USA, Death to Israel" after Friday prayers, and went on to attack the compound.'
Interesting that after billions pumped into Iraq and Afghanistan, the ordinary person in those countries apparently hates the USA and, needless to say, Israel as well.
641 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:39:35am |
re: #636 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Of course it is not the artist's fault. But, we ain't got the money to be spending it on this type of stuff.
Just ain't got the money.
Ah. And with that we return to my original point. We have to pinch pennies, so just make it a concrete tunnel painted industrial green. Don't do anything to relieve the drudgery of the workers now or in the future, they're here for WORK and shouldn't waste time enjoying anything...
Yeah, a bit of sarcasm, yet it's what I see that position as being.
642 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:40:50am |
Someone must be doing something right. Highway deaths have fallen to lowest levels since 1948 in absolute terms, and that's with a significantly higher number of people on the roads, and more miles driven. The rate of deaths per 100 million miles traveled is estimated to have hit a record low of 1.09 in 2010, the lowest since 1949. The previous record was in 2009, which had a rate of 1.13 deaths per 100 million miles traveled.
643 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:40:57am |
re: #640 treasured people
From your link:
'Protesters shouted "Death to the USA, Death to Israel" after Friday prayers, and went on to attack the compound.'Interesting that after billions pumped into Iraq and Afghanistan, the ordinary person in those countries apparently hates the USA and, needless to say, Israel as well.
This "war" in Afghanistan is a no win proposition. Americans will realize this in about 50 years or so after they spent trillions of dollars and 1000s of American lives.
644 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:41:34am |
re: #641 kirkspencer
Ah. And with that we return to my original point. We have to pinch pennies, so just make it a concrete tunnel painted industrial green. Don't do anything to relieve the drudgery of the workers now or in the future, they're here for WORK and shouldn't waste time enjoying anything...
Yeah, a bit of sarcasm, yet it's what I see that position as being.
How about a "Willy Wonka" boat ride as they enter the facility?
645 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:41:42am |
re: #640 treasured people
Death to Israel is almost reflexive in many parts of the world where regimes use "Israel" to deflect attention from their decrepit rule.
646 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:41:46am |
re: #641 kirkspencer
Ah. And with that we return to my original point. We have to pinch pennies, so just make it a concrete tunnel painted industrial green. Don't do anything to relieve the drudgery of the workers now or in the future, they're here for WORK and shouldn't waste time enjoying anything...
Yeah, a bit of sarcasm, yet it's what I see that position as being.
The architecture design itself could benefit from 600k of extra funding, imo. There's no reason the building itself can't be uplifting and inspiring without plopping the fairy frog jocky at the terminal. Just my opinion.
647 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:43:46am |
re: #643 Gus 802
This "war" in Afghanistan is a no win proposition. Americans will realize this in about 50 years or so after they spent trillions of dollars and 1000s of American lives.
Afghanistan has truly earned its title as the "graveyard of empires". We don't need to hop on the pile to prove it further. We need to get the hell out, yesterday.
648 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:44:25am |
re: #639 Alouette
Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion that the thing is a cheesy monstrosity. I'm sure the artist is a very sweet person, but if I was on the committee in charge of approving artworks, I would thumbs down this one.
Yep. And again I point out it is one of four options, from which one will actually be chosen. There is no way any of the four will be preferred by all members of the committee, and I'd lay money that each of the four have someone who will think it expensive junk at best - quite possibly someone on the committee.
649 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:44:59am |
Former New Orleans police officer Greg McRae sentenced to 17 years for burning man's body after Katrina
[Link: www.nola.com...]
Former police officer Greg McRae was sentenced this morning to more than 17 years in federal prison for burning Henry Glover's body after he was shot by a fellow police officer in the days after Hurricane Katrina.U.S. District Judge Lance Africk immediately remanded McRae to federal authorities.
The sentence of 207 months was imposed by Africk, shortly after he ordered former officer David Warren -- who shot Glover -- to spend more than 25 years in federal prison.
Africk called McRae's conduct "barbaric," saying it was "unforgivable" to burn Glover's body -- particular for a 26-year police veteran.
650 | McSpiff Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:45:01am |
re: #645 lawhawk
Death to Israel is almost reflexive in many parts of the world where regimes use "Israel" to deflect attention from their decrepit rule.
Except this particular regime is very much of our own creation. If the Afghan government is encouraging anti-Israeli sentiment I'd say that's a pretty large failure on the part of the coalition.
652 | Obdicut Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:46:19am |
re: #641 kirkspencer
Well, I'm half and half. We do have money to spend on art, and spending on art for a workplace makes sense, both as an investment and a morale thing.
I don't think that we have to pay the top-dollar artists, though. I think the interest of the public would be much better served by finding more starting-out artists, rather than established ones, or, if the situation is right, involving the community.
These are the steps that my brother's aunt-in-law designed and helped to create, in SF. I love them. [Link: www.tiledsteps.org...]
However, I think the main purpose of this "OMG the sculpture costs so much" foofrah is just distraction. The percentage of the budget it and other art spending constitutes is small. The amount wasted in other areas is much more significant.
653 | Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:46:26am |
re: #261 Dark_Falcon
No one is 'blaming' anyone. My father simply sees China as a strategic rival and consequentially does not wish to buy from them while they maintain a strong trade imbalance with us.
The only way to correct a trade imbalance is to make what we buy, not avoid buying it by a few.
654 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:46:46am |
re: #646 Fozzie Bear
The architecture design itself could benefit from 600k of extra funding, imo. There's no reason the building itself can't be uplifting and inspiring without plopping the fairy frog jocky at the terminal. Just my opinion.
It's DOD, man! Should be a statue of a "Shark riding on an elephant's back, just trampling and eating everything in sight"...
(Thanks Jack Handy)
655 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:46:50am |
re: #649 RogueOne
Former New Orleans police officer Greg McRae sentenced to 17 years for burning man's body after Katrina
[Link: www.nola.com...]
This story was covered at length on This American Life. That story literally gave me nightmares.
656 | McSpiff Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:47:05am |
re: #650 McSpiff
For the record, my own particular bias is that while we need to work with the afghan people, setting up a "democratic government" to run the country prematurely was a huge mistake.
659 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:49:12am |
re: #648 kirkspencer
Yep. And again I point out it is one of four options, from which one will actually be chosen. There is no way any of the four will be preferred by all members of the committee, and I'd lay money that each of the four have someone who will think it expensive junk at best - quite possibly someone on the committee.
Where can we view pics of the other three options?
661 | Obdicut Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:50:04am |
re: #658 Gus 802
You know there's an actual style called 'Brutalist'?
Boston City Hall is a great terrible example:
Image: 800px-Boston_City_Hall.JPG
So Brazil.
662 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:50:29am |
I think this classifies as "Ironic":
Concord's top female police employee sued for sexual harassment
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]
The highest ranking woman with the Concord Police Department who has filed two sexual harassment lawsuits over the past 12-years, and collected close to $300,000, is now being sued for sexual harassment by a female civilian police employee, according to court documents obtained by CLAYCORD.com.Lt. Robin Heinemann recently settled a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Concord Police Department for $150,000, and now, Wendy Schwartzenberger, who was supervised by Heinemann for several years at the Northern Field Office, says she was sexually assaulted several times by Heinemann, who is the only female lieutenant within the Concord Police Department.
There are no pictures so I can't tell if she's guilty or not.//
663 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:53:08am |
re: #646 Fozzie Bear
The architecture design itself could benefit from 600k of extra funding, imo. There's no reason the building itself can't be uplifting and inspiring without plopping the fairy frog jocky at the terminal. Just my opinion.
The building itself, as noted above, is getting close to $1 Billion spent on it. I think that another $600,000 would do little to change it.
The artwork (and again I'll point out this is not necessarily the final choice) is in actuality part of the design. Put a large object somewhere and it breaks the flow. It can also act as a screen to necessary but unappealing (yeah, i know, frog is fugly iyo) elements, be they cabling or security stations or something else again.
Finally, I point out that while once in a while that is a valid argument, if yielded to you end up with NO artwork beyond architecture. Like all art media, it works for some and for others it is nothing. By forcing the inclusion of another media you wind up improving the whole -- subtly, but definitely.
664 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:54:58am |
re: #585 iceweasel
Riders on the Toad
Riders on the Toad
To DOD they drove
To DOD they rode
The riders all got warts
Those riders run our forts
Riders on the Toad...
665 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:56:24am |
re: #663 kirkspencer
What's another $600,000.00? Really?
666 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:56:31am |
re: #660 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What a country!
Speaking of spending then. What ever happened to the days of Quonset huts? Is there really such a need for such a luxurious structure as we see in BRAC-133? Just think. We spend more as a society on these boondoggles than we do on high density housing (i.e. apartments). Find a lonesome town in Virginia, put up a bunch of Quonset huts, and be done with it. Too late now.
667 | Obdicut Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:57:01am |
There are some Brutalist buildings I like:
668 | Obdicut Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:58:04am |
669 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:58:41am |
670 | Gus Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:58:49am |
re: #668 Obdicut
Dang. Here's the Chaubin one:
And an even cooler Chaubin:
That second one looks like a ski jump. ;)
671 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 8:59:13am |
Officer investigated for incident involving donut delivery truck....the jokes write themselves.
City officer investigated for off-duty incident
[Link: www.post-gazette.com...]
Pittsburgh police Officer Garrett Brown, who was the subject of a federal misconduct lawsuit that cost the city $150,000 this month, is under investigation by the city for a different off-duty encounter with a truck driver who was delivering doughnuts in Oakland.
673 | Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:00:19am |
re: #559 lawhawk
If you're referring to the HSR link between Tampa and Orlando, then you've got to also consider that the numbers just don't make sense. If you're going to do HSR, you need a population density to make that workable, and that corridor doesn't have it. Moreover, if the idea is to get people out of cars, HSR linking those two cities will simply move people from one rail station to the other - and you'd still need a car to see the various attractions that are no where near rail - think Disney, Sea World, Busch Gardens, etc.
I'm not an expert, but there are plenty of people who disagree with you, or Scott on this and they are not fools. I saw one supposedly serious number argument against HSR that used a ridiculous number of 4 people per car to compare travel costs.
I4, the only east west corridor is already overcrowded (I drive it often) and will need to be continually expanded in coming years at a cost of billions.
The indirect stimulus for jobs and business of HSR was pretty much ignored from what I saw in Scott's justification and above all it was the typical Tea Party approach which is very short term horizon. Rail is a long term investment not a 4 year investment and either the rest of the world are total fools for doing so, or we are for not.
The detail arguments about where the stations are are important but solvable and local transportation, say within Orlando can easily be catered to by other public transport, just as is done within Disney World itself, or any European city.
674 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:01:21am |
676 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:02:14am |
677 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:02:21am |
678 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:03:00am |
Fox News continues to damage the Republican Party.....
Donald Trump Gets Fox News Segment: 'Monday Mornings With Trump' (VIDEO)
The network revealed Thursday plans to launch a "Monday Mornings with Trump" segment on its morning show, "Fox & Friends."
"Bold, brash and never bashful, The Donald now makes his voice loud and clear every Monday on Fox," a network promo says.
As Mediaite's Frances Martel notes, while Trump is merely making a weekly guest appearance and is not becoming a Fox News contributor, "it is surprising to see a potential presidential candidate assume a media role so close to the election."
679 | Obdicut Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:06:08am |
re: #678 Killgore Trout
I don't know why they even bothered to cut ties with Gingrich and Sanatorum. There's really not much point; that they're basically the media arm of the GOP/whackjob conservatives is not exactly secret.
680 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:06:18am |
681 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:06:39am |
re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What is a kinetic military action?
We're calling this thing in Libya an kinetic military action. As opposed, I guess, to a visual military action, or an auditory military action.
682 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:07:12am |
re: #681 SanFranciscoZionist
We're calling this thing in Libya an kinetic military action. As opposed, I guess, to a visual military action, or an auditory military action.
Or a turd sandwich.
683 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:08:15am |
re: #681 SanFranciscoZionist
We're calling this thing in Libya an kinetic military action. As opposed, I guess, to a visual military action, or an auditory military action.
Howabout... "No Mo"
684 | Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:08:20am |
re: #679 Obdicut
I don't know why they even bothered to cut ties with Gingrich and Sanatorum. There's really not much point; that they're basically the media arm of the GOP/whackjob conservatives is not exactly secret.
It's just so absurd to turn the Republican party into a bunch of reality show loons. It's painful to watch.
685 | Girth Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:08:32am |
re: #678 Killgore Trout
Fox News continues to damage the Republican Party...
Donald Trump Gets Fox News Segment: 'Monday Mornings With Trump' (VIDEO)
At some point wouldn't it be better for them to drop the "Fair and Balanced" crap and just admit that they are TPGOPTV? I don't think it would change their viewership very much.
686 | Girth Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:11:23am |
re: #681 SanFranciscoZionist
We're calling this thing in Libya an kinetic military action. As opposed, I guess, to a visual military action, or an auditory military action.
A country that we are currently not fighting has potential military action. As we begin to fight a country, that potential military action is converted into kinetic military action.
687 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:12:39am |
Small town Indiana holds parade for Butler players family:
[Link: www.pal-item.com...]
[Link: cmsimg.pal-item.com...]
689 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:14:06am |
re: #561 HappyWarrior
Trump is obviously a Scottish Muslim. Gosh, though they're suspicious of him for having a foreign born mother. Both of Andrew Jackson's folks were from Ulster. Do birthers seriously think you can't be American fi your folks are foreign born? That seems to be the implication first with Obama and now Trump.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
690 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:14:09am |
re: #685 Girth
At some point wouldn't it be better for them to drop the "Fair and Balanced" crap and just admit that they are TPGOPTV? I don't think it would change their viewership very much.
The weird thing is that if they'd left Santorum on it would have been more valid. A candidate should not have to quit their day job to run for office. (Yes, I think a senator who runs for office should be allowed to remain senator, just to give one example.)
But this... no. Of all their actions, this is one of the most blatant.
691 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:16:13am |
re: #562 thedopefishlives
One could argue, then, that the only Americans are the Native Americans. I doubt that's what these idiots have in mind, though.
I would have voted for Wilma Mankiller for president. Sadly, she is no longer with us.
693 | Girth Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:16:37am |
re: #690 kirkspencer
The weird thing is that if they'd left Santorum on it would have been more valid. A candidate should not have to quit their day job to run for office. (Yes, I think a senator who runs for office should be allowed to remain senator, just to give one example.)
But this... no. Of all their actions, this is one of the most blatant.
But in an environment where media time costs money and money is political speech being in a situation where you get free airtime and get paid for it as well is different than any other job that you could hold while being a candidate.
694 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:17:42am |
re: #571 Walter L. Newton
It's April 1st... everyone up early looking waiting for their welfare checks?
Welfare checks come on April 1st?
Don't I have to be signed up or something?
695 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:18:21am |
re: #693 Girth
But in an environment where media time costs money and money is political speech being in a situation where you get free airtime and get paid for it as well is different than any other job that you could hold while being a candidate.
... and said with both straight face and one breath, even. I'm impressed.
696 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:18:21am |
re: #574 RogueOne
If we're not careful those foreigners will start moving here or something. Pretty soon they'll put up a big statue welcoming them in! Stay vigilant.
The Bronx Zoo's Cobra likes the line about 'your coiled masses' on the base of the Statue of Liberty.
697 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:19:01am |
re: #685 Girth
At some point wouldn't it be better for them to drop the "Fair and Balanced" crap and just admit that they are TPGOPTV? I don't think it would change their viewership very much.
Jon Stewart had a great interview with Bret Baer of Fox News Channel, in which this very point was brought up. I'm on the world's slowest internet connection at the moment so it would take about 6 hours to find the link, but it's worth watching if anyone cares to look it up.
698 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:19:06am |
re: #575 iceweasel
Seriously?
My own babel fish isn't working properly yet here. I can understand trainspotting, but sometimes I can't understand a few people here because of their accent.
It can be rough. I have had encounters in Ireland a number of times where it wasn't clear to me if the person I was talking to was speaking English.
699 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:21:23am |
re: #589 Fozzie Bear
Some of my family on the Irish side speak in an accent so thick I literally have no idea what they are saying half the time. I'll ask them to repeat themselves a few times, then one of them will ultimately answer me in their best impression of an American accent, which I must say is hilarious. I never really realized how nasal the American accent must sound to a foreigner before that.
I've found that after a few months out of the country, I can actually hear an American accent, as opposed to 'lack of accent'.
It goes away when I return to being surrounded by Americans again.
700 | Girth Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:21:53am |
re: #697 negativ
Jon Stewart had a great interview with Bret Baer of Fox News Channel, in which this very point was brought up. I'm on the world's slowest internet connection at the moment so it would take about 6 hours to find the link, but it's worth watching if anyone cares to look it up.
I watched the interview on the show, meant to watch the whole thing online but haven't got around to it yet...must remember to do that.
701 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:23:05am |
re: #593 Fozzie Bear
I'm all for supporting the arts, but holy crap, that doesn't mean we have to buy the artist a new yacht for what couldn't represent more than a couple months worth of work. A dozen artists could be supported for a year on that kind of money.
That's the thing. I've never figured out what separates people who make lovely things and sell them for fifty bucks on Etsy from people who commission others to make hideous looking things they designed and make a stone fortune on it. Marketing? Highbrow concept?
702 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:23:55am |
re: #697 negativ
Stewart has been on a roll for months now. He's batting roughly .900 by my count. It's math, you can't argue with math.
703 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:25:53am |
re: #596 Fozzie Bear
Seriously, though, 600 large for that? We can support the arts without dumping heaps of cash on one individual artist. I enthusiastically support patronage of the arts, but obviously, the artist who made that sculpture doesn't need the government's help if he is charging that kind of money for a single sculpture.
This is San Francisco's latest proposed acquisition.
No one likes it.
We don't have much good public art in the City, really. Golden Gate Park, however, is absolutely chock-a-block with statues, many of them discreetly hidden in weird areas. When the park was created, everyone and their brother donated a bronze statue, and apparently the park designer absolutely hated them.
704 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:26:00am |
re: #701 SanFranciscoZionist
That's the thing. I've never figured out what separates people who make lovely things and sell them for fifty bucks on Etsy from people who commission others to make hideous looking things they designed and make a stone fortune on it. Marketing? Highbrow concept?
I think the "fairy on a toad" is the kind of really cheesy thing that you would expect to find in a "Skymall" catalog.
705 | Girth Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:26:18am |
re: #702 RogueOne
Stewart has been on a roll for months now. He's batting roughly .900 by my count. It's math, you can't argue with math.
Can't argue with it no, but come on. Numbers go in, different numbers come out, you can't explain that!
Can't argue with it but you can't explain it either!
706 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:27:23am |
re: #703 SanFranciscoZionist
This is San Francisco's latest proposed acquisition.
No one likes it.
We don't have much good public art in the City, really. Golden Gate Park, however, is absolutely chock-a-block with statues, many of them discreetly hidden in weird areas. When the park was created, everyone and their brother donated a bronze statue, and apparently the park designer absolutely hated them.
$1.15 million!
I totally chose the wrong career.
707 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:27:38am |
re: #604 Fozzie Bear
I have a large format metal sculptor in my family. He makes pieces far larger and more complex than that thing for about 1/6 the cost, and he lives very, very well. I'm not buying that that thing cost anywhere near 600k to produce. Not even close.
Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure was inflated by wingnut critics of the NEA, and institution which, if anything, should have far more funding than it does. I'm just commenting on that particular piece, assuming it cost what the article says it does.
(Not only that, but really, that thing is fugly. That is not some kind of groundbreaking work. My grandmother wears cheesy knit sweaters with more thought-provoking teddy bears on them than that thing.)
Kind of cool.
708 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:29:17am |
re: #551 Naso Tang
Morning.
By cycle I mean boom/bust. Over extend/come back to reality and maybe recover for another boom. Maybe. That's relatively short term, but in the long term civilizations have a way of evolving, sometimes badly.By religion, [snipped for brevity]
We buy on cost, but tell me how much manual labor cost goes into making LED or Fluorescent bulbs? I suspect virtually none. It is a capital intensive operation and the machinery in China costs the same as it would in the USA. Why can they do it and we can't?
Good morning.
I agree that there is a bust that follows the boom, we are living it. If we realize the error and reverse course for another boom or just blame everyone else and sink down into the detritus remains to be seen.
I don't dispute that religion has a huge influence on their thinking. But can we really identify a cause and effect? They wrap their religious ideology and political ideology so tightly together that it would be hard to untangle, but it is clearly twisted to whatever ends they want. Republicans, for example, seem to think that the only way, or even the best way, to attract business is by cutting taxes. And then they go on to justify it in biblical terms, as if that isn't just falsely twisting their religion around a political idea.
Manufacturing that isn't labor intensive still moves to China for several reasons. The biggest is that China subsidies industries that it wants to build. Also a huge factor is supply chain and shipping. If all a company's suppliers are in China it is cheaper in many cases to locate their business near those suppliers. Then as many companies come together that also becomes where the specific kind of workers they need are concentrated. All these factors feedback into each other.
re: #653 Naso Tang
The only way to correct a trade imbalance is to make what we buy, not avoid buying it by a few.
I agree that local industry is very important for our economy. Though I would contend that as consumers were are contributing to this mess in a significant way. When we buy on cost regardless of where products are made (or nearly any other consideration, for that matter), as most Americans do, then building products in China or wherever is cheapest isn't a problem for corporations. But if people in, currently, one of the largest global markets started only buying from American manufacturers then it would cost a business money to locate in China, offsetting the financial incentive to do so in the first place.
709 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:29:41am |
re: #701 SanFranciscoZionist
That's the thing. I've never figured out what separates people who make lovely things and sell them for fifty bucks on Etsy from people who commission others to make hideous looking things they designed and make a stone fortune on it. Marketing? Highbrow concept?
See: [Link: www.regretsy.com...]
Occasionally NSFW because crazy people make and sell very weird things.
710 | lawhawk Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:33:49am |
re: #703 SanFranciscoZionist
I like Optimus Grime or Rubblestiltskin.
Since this is a recycling of materials from the old building, do they get an eco-credit?
711 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:34:05am |
712 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:35:45am |
re: #662 RogueOne
I think this classifies as "Ironic":
Concord's top female police employee sued for sexual harassment
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]There are no pictures so I can't tell if she's guilty or not.//
Why is it ironic?
713 | CuriousLurker Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:36:12am |
re: #689 SanFranciscoZionist
It's absolutely ridiculous.
I can't stay as I have a conference call coming up but I was just wondering something. The WND article quotes birthers.org as saying (re Trump):
There is no doubt that at his birth his natural allegiance for the United States of America was and still is unalienable.
So that means that the allegiance to the U.S. of American Muslims born of parents who were both American citizens (like mine and many others) is unquestionable, right?
And if Rep. Kieth Ellison's parents were both U.S. citizens when he was born, then the wingnuts wouldn't question his allegiance and would have no problem whatsoever with him becoming president, right? RIGHT? //
Gotta run...BBL
714 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:38:56am |
re: #713 CuriousLurker
I can't stay as I have a conference call coming up but I was just wondering something. The WND article quotes birthers.org as saying (re Trump):
So that means that the allegiance to the U.S. of American Muslims born of parents who were both American citizens (like mine and many others) is unquestionable, right?
And if Rep. Kieth Ellison's parents were both U.S. citizens when he was born, then the wingnuts wouldn't question his allegiance and would have no problem whatsoever with him becoming president, right? RIGHT? //
Gotta run...BBL
When I used to post at Free Republic, there was always a contingent of freaks who would question the loyalty of U.S. Jews, because they could always claim Israeli citizenship.
715 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:39:49am |
re: #712 SanFranciscoZionist
Why is it ironic?
She won 2 sexual harassment lawsuits and then gets hit with one of her own? It's like rain on your wedding day... or something.
716 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:40:11am |
re: #709 negativ
See: [Link: www.regretsy.com...]
Occasionally NSFW because crazy people make and sell very weird things.
Oh MY.
717 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:41:50am |
re: #714 Alouette
When I used to post at Free Republic, there was always a contingent of freaks who would question the loyalty of U.S. Jews, because they could always claim Israeli citizenship.
Wouldn't that make us more loyal, by definition, if we could always bail, but choose not to?
//
718 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:42:16am |
re: #715 RogueOne
She won 2 sexual harassment lawsuits and then gets hit with one of her own? It's like rain on your wedding day... or something.
Sorry, didn't register that bit.
Yeah, that's a bit odd.
719 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:43:45am |
re: #717 SanFranciscoZionist
Wouldn't that make us more loyal, by definition, if we could always bail, but choose not to?
//
The concept of dual citizenship is very disturbing to some, but only when Israel is involved. I have never heard anyone complain, for instance, about dual U.S./Canadian, or dual U.S./U.K., or dual U.S./French citizenship.
720 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:49:39am |
Earthquake hits California-Mexico border
The California-Mexico border area was hit by a 3.2-magnitude earthquake about 16 miles from Calexico, Calif., geologists said.
The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake rumbled Thursday night in an area of known for its high earthquake activity, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday.
On April 4, 2010, the border region was struck by a magnitude-7.2 earthquake that was felt in downtown Los Angeles and strong enough to shift the Earth's crust up to 10 feet in Mexico.
721 | kirkspencer Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:55:04am |
re: #719 Alouette
The concept of dual citizenship is very disturbing to some, but only when Israel is involved. I have never heard anyone complain, for instance, about dual U.S./Canadian, or dual U.S./U.K., or dual U.S./French citizenship.
ahem. birthers.
722 | McSpiff Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:58:11am |
re: #719 Alouette
The concept of dual citizenship is very disturbing to some, but only when Israel is involved. I have never heard anyone complain, for instance, about dual U.S./Canadian, or dual U.S./U.K., or dual U.S./French citizenship.
I think I've heard of some people complaining about dual U.S./Mexican citizenship, or really anyone from Mexico in any way expressing an affection for the country after they've left it.
723 | b_sharp Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:58:26am |
re: #575 iceweasel
Seriously?
My own babel fish isn't working properly yet here. I can understand trainspotting, but sometimes I can't understand a few people here because of their accent.
I'll do my best to write without a Canadian accent, eh. Just for you Ice.
724 | RogueOne Fri, Apr 1, 2011 10:02:52am |
It's been fun folks. Enjoy the rest of the day people!
725 | blueraven Fri, Apr 1, 2011 10:09:43am |
re: #666 Gus 802
Speaking of spending then. What ever happened to the days of Quonset huts? Is there really such a need for such a luxurious structure as we see in BRAC-133? Just think. We spend more as a society on these boondoggles than we do on high density housing (i.e. apartments). Find a lonesome town in Virginia, put up a bunch of Quonset huts, and be done with it. Too late now.
Not too shabby...
726 | Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 1, 2011 10:19:26am |
re: #708 prononymous
I agree that local industry is very important for our economy. Though I would contend that as consumers were are contributing to this mess in a significant way. When we buy on cost regardless of where products are made (or nearly any other consideration, for that matter), as most Americans do, then building products in China or wherever is cheapest isn't a problem for corporations. But if people in, currently, one of the largest global markets started only buying from American manufacturers then it would cost a business money to locate in China, offsetting the financial incentive to do so in the first place.
I don't support "buy American" as a strategy. There is a global economy and being protectionist is not going to make it go away or help us economically.
However I do believe in government incentives for industry, with a long term view. We could have had efficient cars and solar power and more, cost effectively, by now if we had retained some of the incentives that were started then dropped decades ago. The reason China now makes most solar panels for export is because they have a reliable government customer at home. The reason the little Danes became leaders in wind power was because they had more vision than American manufacturers, and I believe government incentives for alternatives to oil.
Think what the government could do for natural gas or electric cars if they dictated that all replacements must be one or the other. How many custom stop start vehicles does the post office have?
Other countries do these things, but we think all progress can only come from small businesses and government support is a dirty word, except by tax break.
727 | Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 1, 2011 10:40:04am |
re: #726 Naso Tang
As transportation fuels become increasingly expensive, outfits like wal-mart simply won't be able to compete with locally produced goods, because the cost of transporting all the various parts around the globe will begin to eat up any savings from cheap foreign labor. There is a bit of a silver lining to reaching peak oil production, and that lining is American jobs.
"Buy American" doesn't make much economic sense, but buy local ultimately will make a lot of sense.
728 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 1, 2011 11:01:02am |
re: #726 Naso Tang
I don't support "buy American" as a strategy. There is a global economy and being protectionist is not going to make it go away or help us economically.
I don't think "buy American" is a good strategy for a few reasons. First, it would require most Americans to start actually paying attention to the products they purchase besides how shiny it is and the price tag. That isn't going to happen, IMO. Second, some places will simply have a better opportunity cost for producing various goods. It doesn't make sense to inefficiently produce goods here, out of some misplaced sense of nationalism or whatever.
With that said, however, I do feel that we as consumers have really dropped the ball. I do believe that we need to be conscious of more than the price tag. If the companies making the products are doing things we disagree with we need to let them know, first and foremost by not buying their products. Same for source countries. Since most shrimp, for example, in Mexico are farmed in open systems that damage the environment I will preferentially choose shrimp farmed in closed systems in Thailand or the US.
Other countries do these things, but we think all progress can only come from small businesses and government support is a dirty word, except by tax break.
I very much agree with the rest of what you said. Especially this quoted bit. Sometimes tax cuts are appropriate, but when used in conjunction with pragmatic policy that can also include subsidies, new regulations, new taxes, government purchases, etc. That they only are willing to consider tax cuts is rigid stupidity.
729 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 1, 2011 11:03:53am |
re: #725 blueraven
Not too shabby...
homepage.mac.com/lstiegelmar1/quonset.jpg
My virus scanner complained about this being a malware site. It is probably because of some past ad injection or a false alert, but I thought you guys should be aware.