Glenn Beck’s Daily Fox News Show is Ending

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Despite his numerous denials, the rumors about Glenn Beck’s show being on the chopping block were accurate: Glenn Beck to End Daily Fox News Program.

Glenn Beck will end his daily Fox News Channel program later this year.

His departure was jointly announced in a statement on Wednesday by Fox and Mr. Beck’s company, Mercury Radio Arts. The statement did not specify an end date for the show, called “Glenn Beck,” which has been telecast at 5 p.m. on Fox News since early 2009.

Fox News and Mercury Radio Arts, which have sometimes clashed over the making of “Glenn Beck,” will “work together to develop and produce a variety of television projects for air on the Fox News Channel as well as content for other platforms including Fox News’ digital properties,” the companies said in the statement. …

The statement was briefly posted on The Blaze, a Web site owned by Mr. Beck, but it was then taken down. Representatives for Fox and Mr. Beck did not immediately explain why.

UPDATE at 4/6/11 10:23:36 am

In August 2009, I asked the question, “Is there a point at which most reasonable people will start realizing that Glenn Beck is a raving freakazoid nut sandwich?”

This led to Beck calling me out by name on his show. It took a year and a half after that to reach Peak Beck, but he who laughs last, laughs best.

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1 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:01:28am

Now who will I turn to in order to get my daily dose of crazy all throughout the 2012 election post primaries?

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:01:51am

as if there was a shortage of crazy out there...

3 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:02:24am

Next stop! TruTV with Alex Jones as a regular guest.

4 Slap  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:05:01am

Nah -- he'll be featured on CBN before long.

5 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:05:09am

I think he mentioned this on his radio show this morning. Didn't give a solid statement, but glossed over the subject, iirc.

6 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:06:10am

re: #4 Slap

Nah -- he'll be featured on CBN before long.

Actually, he could prolly do an internet show for his "Insiders". Just a guess.

7 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:06:35am

Personally, I think Beck's refusal too go birther was his downfall. It's the one conspiracy he wouldn't promote and the the one most embraced by his/Fox target audience. I'll bet they replace him with Donald Trump.

8 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:08:23am

I wonder if the part about future projects together is legit or just for sake of face-saving on both sides.

"We love working together so much that we're not going to do it anymore."

9 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:08:33am

Watch for Beck to spin this as a great thing for him-- or an intense bit of victimization.

10 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:10:08am

re: #9 Obdicut

Watch for Beck to spin this as a great thing for him-- or an intense bit of victimization.

Of course. "George Soros! Communists! Cloward-Piven! Libruls and progressives!"

"Learn more when my new channel starts up!"

Glennbeckeleventy!!11ty

11 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:10:29am

re: #9 Obdicut

Watch for Beck to spin this as a great thing for him-- or an intense bit of victimization.

"People were scared by what I had to say."

12 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:10:30am

re: #8 Charleston Chew

I wonder if the part about future projects together is legit or just for sake of face-saving on both sides.

"We love working together so much that we're not going to do it anymore."

Sounds like the standard Hollywood couple break-up announcement.

"We will always love and respect each other and remain caring friends but we don't want to be married anymore"

13 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:10:53am

re: #9 Obdicut

Watch for Beck to spin this as a great thing for him-- or an intense bit of victimization.

I wouldn't be surprised if he played David to Fox's Goliath. Just another multi-millionaire everyman fightin' the system.

14 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:11:06am

re: #9 Obdicut

Watch for Beck to spin this as a great thing for him-- or an intense bit of victimization.

How about both?

15 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:11:28am

re: #13 Charleston Chew

I wouldn't be surprised if he played David to Fox's Goliath. Just another multi-millionaire everyman fightin' the system.

Who is John Galt Glenn Beck?

16 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:11:30am

Anyway. He's supposed to stay on with Faux News as a producer.

Faux News will continue to be the channel for slack jawed wingnuts.

17 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:12:31am

I can't wait to hear the multi-tentacled conspiracy theory from the fanbase explaining why he was 'silenced'.

18 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:12:52am

re: #12 moderatelyradicalliberal

Sounds like the standard Hollywood couple break-up announcement.

"We will always love and respect each other and remain caring friends but we don't want to be married anymore"

The private life equivalent to "creative differences" in standard showbiz bs.

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:13:06am

re: #12 moderatelyradicalliberal

Sounds like the standard Hollywood couple break-up announcement.

"We will always love and respect each other and remain caring friends but we don't want to be married anymore"

I know. what I want to hear from a Hollywood couple:
Her: He has a small wanker and his 5 minutes is almost up.
Him: She's a whore.
:)

20 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:13:21am

re: #14 lawhawk

How about both?

"I'm way better off without Fox News, the multimillion-dollar tool of the government that they are."

21 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:13:32am

re: #16 Gus 802

Anyway. He's supposed to stay on with Faux News as a producer.

Faux News will continue to be the channel for slack jawed wingnuts.

Pope Remains Catholic, Mammals of the Ursus Genus continue to defecate in deciduous forests.

22 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:13:32am

Faux News: Fairly Crazy and [Mentally] Unbalanced

23 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:14:31am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice grammar. I suck.

24 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:15:29am

Does Megan Kelly have her own show? I can see sliding her to the spot and ordering another blond.

25 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:15:57am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know. what I want to hear from a Hollywood couple:
Her: He has a small wanker and his 5 minutes is almost up.
Him: She's a whore.
:)

LOL! That will be the Brangelina break up statement. I've seen pictures of him naked and she.......well. Let's just say, they would both be honest.

26 Slap  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:16:22am

A future collaboration:

The Glenlie Becksheen show? The Violent Blackboard of Truth? Tiger balm?

27 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:16:26am

@daveweigel daveweigel
"Will It Burn? With Rev. Terry Jones" #beckreplacements

The Fred Phelps Travelin' Salvation Show #beckreplacements

28 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:17:11am

re: #26 Slap

A future collaboration:

The Glenlie Becksheen show? The Violent Blackboard of Truth? Tiger balm?

Winning! By which I mean you are in regards to this thread.

29 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:17:12am

re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar

Does Megan Kelly have her own show? I can see sliding her to the spot and ordering another blond.

Yes, in the late morning or early afternoon.

30 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:18:07am

@66Betty Cathy
The answer is obvious. New sitcom: The Goldline Girls, starring Michele, Sarah and Christine. #beckreplacements

31 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:18:11am

re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar

Does Megan Kelly have her own show? I can see sliding her to the spot and ordering another blond.

Nothing stopping them from phoning in a newsbabe from somewhere else to cover the spot.

32 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:19:13am

OMG...What if they give the time slot to James O'Keefe?

33 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:19:55am

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OMG...What if they give the time slot to James O'Keefe?

Hope he wears the pimp suit.

34 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:20:54am

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OMG...What if they give the time slot to James O'Keefe?

Wait! Wait! I have an idea...

Andrew Breitbart!

He's got a face -- and voice -- for television.

//

35 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:20:54am

re: #31 thedopefishlives

Nothing stopping them from phoning in a newsbabe from somewhere else to cover the spot.

Surely the evil masterminds at Fox can build more Fembots to attack Austin Powers read the news.

36 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:21:37am

Or maybe a "Pam Geller freaking paranoid about Muslims" show.

I know my wingnuts.

//

37 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:21:43am

A testimonial from a Hot Air reader....

I like Beck a lot and watched daily for over a year. But, I stopped watching. I know things are bad, and there was only so much I could take (and it was starting to affect me personally). That, and he started to develop a tendency to latch onto some rather absurd inflation numbers around food. Is inflation coming? Sure. Will coffee cost 70+ dollars a pound? Highly doubt it. 10 maybe, 70 no. I decided I had had enough at that point.

cktheman on April 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM

38 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:21:44am

re: #35 Charleston Chew

Surely the evil masterminds at Fox can build more Fembots to attack Austin Powers read the news.

A blond with a British accent!!!!!

39 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:21:56am

re: #38 Cannadian Club Akbar

A blond with a British accent!!!

Or Lucy Liu.

40 Slap  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:22:02am

re: #35 Charleston Chew

Surely the evil masterminds at Fox can build more Fembots to attack Austin Powers read the news.

If they build them, James will c....nah, never mind.

41 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:23:25am

Why did Palin just jump into my head?

42 Slap  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:24:11am

re: #41 Cannadian Club Akbar

Issues?

43 uninformed opinion  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:24:35am

I know it sounds ridiculous, but where is Katie Couric going?

and what about Sarah Palin?

44 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:26:21am

re: #37 Killgore Trout


And Beck's uncanny resemblance to a fictitious character continues.

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:26:29am

The story is back on the blaze.
[Link: www.theblaze.com...]

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:27:01am

re: #43 uninformed opinion

I know it sounds ridiculous, but where is Katie Couric going?

and what about Sarah Palin?

Couric will try to be the new Oprah.

47 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:27:14am

It wasn't that long ago that conservatives weren't even allowed to criticize Beck. His 9-12 movement was a cornerstone of the Tea Party rally and he was billing himself as the new MLK for white people.
Poof!
/now it's gone.

48 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:27:22am

@mims Christopher Mims
In honor of Glenn Beck leaving Fox, the top 10 dumbass things he said about the environment [Link: bit.ly...]

49 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:27:36am

re: #42 Slap

Issues?

At least I have a reason to drink tonight.
/

50 uninformed opinion  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:27:53am

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

Couric will try to be the new Oprah.

I figured that was what beck was going to do with the crazies.

51 Slap  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:28:37am

re: #49 Cannadian Club Akbar

At least I have a reason to drink tonight.
/

What is this "reason"-word of which you speak?

52 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:28:41am

re: #44 Charleston Chew

And Beck's uncanny resemblance to a fictitious character continues.

My guess is that Beck's carreer may end as a cult leader barricaded in some rural compound with a couple dozen followers.

53 S'latch  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:29:08am

What? No "nut sandwich" tag?

54 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:30:02am
55 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:31:12am

re: #44 Charleston Chew

And Beck's uncanny resemblance to a fictitious character continues.

I was really hoping Beck would stay on the air for his eventual live breakdown. But hey. At least now Beck can run for president.

//

56 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:31:14am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

My guess is that Beck's carreer may end as a cult leader barricaded in some rural compound with a couple dozen followers.

I hear there's a real nice compound in Texas he can hole up in.

57 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:31:59am

re: #56 thedopefishlives

I hear there's a real nice compound in Texas he can hole up in.

One owner?

58 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:32:57am

re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar

One owner?

Minor fire damage.

59 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:33:11am

re: #56 thedopefishlives

I hear there's a real nice compound in Texas he can hole up in.

What about that place in Guyana?

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:33:32am

re: #59 Alouette

What about that place in Guyana?

Summer home.

61 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:33:45am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

My guess is that Beck's carreer may end as a cult leader barricaded in some rural compound with a couple dozen followers.

Castration is optional, but new sneakers are mandatory.

62 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:33:52am

re: #54 Fozzie Bear

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Bristol Palin’s Nonprofit Paid Her Seven Times What It Spent On Actual Teen Pregnancy Prevention.

Her very physical presence was prevention enough...

63 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:34:14am

re: #59 Alouette

What about that place in Guyana?

Too ethnic.

64 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:34:26am

Did he have any years left on his contract? If so, I wonder if there was a buy out even if they are gonna still collaborate.

65 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:34:54am

re: #62 ralphieboy

Her very physical presence was prevention enough...

I dunno, I think she's very pretty. It's just sad that she's such a soulless parasite. I had hopes she would escape the Palin mold, but I guess not.

66 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:34:59am

re: #54 Fozzie Bear

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Bristol Palin’s Nonprofit Paid Her Seven Times What It Spent On Actual Teen Pregnancy Prevention.

This seems profoundly sleazy to me.

Some kids are put off by the unpleasant qualities of their parents and spend their lives rebelling by doing the opposite; other kids admire their parents and want to emulate them. For now I'm putting Bristol in the emulate category.

67 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:35:03am

re: #61 Fozzie Bear

Castration is optional, but new sneakers are mandatory.

Oh that's funny. I was just sitting here thinking that Beck will start his own "Raelian cult". Castration required. Well, at least mental castration is already required to listen to Beck and take him seriously. Perhaps just a lobotomy.

68 abolitionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:35:26am

Beck could be hired as a spokesman for American big oil interests. He could be truthful about how close we are to exhausting the world's finite supplies, and for the most part, would not be taken seriously.

Could be more effective PR than JR Ewing. /

69 Slap  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:36:53am

re: #56 thedopefishlives

I hear there's a real nice compound in Texas he can hole up in.

"Coming to you now from the Blackboard Jungle on the beautiful Gold Coast...."

70 makeitstop  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:36:57am

re: #65 Fozzie Bear

I dunno, I think she's very pretty. It's just sad that she's such a soulless parasite. I had hopes she would escape the Palin mold, but I guess not.

Apple, tree, etc.

71 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:37:01am

re: #55 Gus 802

I was really hoping Beck would stay on the air for his eventual live breakdown. But hey. At least now Beck can run for president.

//

If Beck's seen Network (and one has to assume he has), he probably thinks he's safer off screen now that his ratings are slipping.

72 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:38:10am

Breaking...

In search for host with equivalent credibility, Fox will replace Glenn Beck with Yahoo Serious. Developing...

73 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:38:39am

re: #71 Charleston Chew

If Beck's seen Network (and one has to assume he has), he probably thinks he's safer off screen now that his ratings are slipping.

Even his slipping ratings are still good numbers for that time slot, to be honest.

74 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:38:58am

re: #72 Charles

Breaking...

In search for host with equivalent credibility, Fox will replace Glenn Beck with Yahoo Serious. Developing...

What is that?

75 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:39:02am

re: #72 Charles

I'd definitely watch a show that illustrates the risk of splitting beer atoms. /

76 Summer Seale  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:39:08am

All I'd like to say is: it couldn't have happened to a more insane person. =)

77 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:39:44am

Somewhere Van Jones is having a hearty chuckle over this.

78 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:39:50am

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

What is that?

Yahoo Serious

79 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:40:31am

Oh, shit. I got it. The NEW Crossfire with Glenn Beck and Keith Oberman. I'll wait for my check. Heh.

80 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:40:43am

re: #78 Gus 802

I love that that picture is from the National Library of Australia.

81 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:40:53am

This could turn into a huge boost for Beck in terms of influence and income, if he plays it right. Whats better than being a king? Being a kingmaker.

82 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:42:35am

re: #72 Charles

Breaking...

In search for host with equivalent credibility, Fox will replace Glenn Beck with Yahoo Serious. Developing...

Do not mock Young Einstein.

83 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:42:40am

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, shit. I got it. The NEW Crossfire with Glenn Beck and Keith Oberman. I'll wait for my check. Heh.

Except that Keith has always remained a tether to reality. He's partisan sometimes shamelessly so, but he's no Glenn Beck.

Not that I wouldn't watch a show with the two of them, but why does it have to be a debate, why not a buddy comedy... or a reality show about political pundits forced to share a house together....

84 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:44:01am

re: #81 Fozzie Bear

This could turn into a huge boost for Beck in terms of influence and income, if he plays it right. Whats better than being a king? Being a kingmaker.

Income for sure. He will increase his "Insider" internet subscriptions, could add more live shows and write a book a year.

85 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:44:07am

Are they replacing him with Judd Cressbeckler?

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:44:42am

re: #54 Fozzie Bear

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Bristol Palin’s Nonprofit Paid Her Seven Times What It Spent On Actual Teen Pregnancy Prevention.

To be perfectly fair, it's not much of a nonprofit--it's a house program for a fashion line, to provide them with some cover for selling tweens fuck-me shoes, and I bet they pay Vanessa Hudgens a hell of a lot more to model their stuff.

87 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:46:49am

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

Even his slipping ratings are still good numbers for that time slot, to be honest.

This is off-topic but it's my pet peeve with TV ratings:

I wish people in the media would refrain from describing shows are watched by 5, 6, or 7% of households as the "show that everyone's watching". If there were truth in showbiz coverage, the finale of the Sopranos, for instance, would have been featured in the news with the headline "The Show That 96% of Americans Didn't Watch Last Night." It helps to keep things in perspective.

Even the Superbowl is not watched by 2/3rds of the country.

88 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:46:56am

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

To be perfectly fair, it's not much of a nonprofit--it's a house program for a fashion line, to provide them with some cover for selling tweens fuck-me shoes, and I bet they pay Vanessa Hudgens a hell of a lot more to model their stuff.

And with Vanessa, you get the bonus publicity of her bawling that someone posted naked pics that she thought were private every 4-6 weeks.

89 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:47:31am

re: #83 jamesfirecat

Except that Keith has always remained a tether to reality. He's partisan sometimes shamelessly so, but he's no Glenn Beck.

Not that I wouldn't watch a show with the two of them, but why does it have to be a debate, why not a buddy comedy... or a reality show about political pundits forced to share a house together...

"One's a bleeding heart liberal and the other a staunch conservative, now they will be forced to share the same house in VH1's reality show "Red & Blue."

90 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:47:48am

re: #87 Charleston Chew

This is off-topic but it's my pet peeve with TV ratings:

I wish people in the media would refrain from describing shows are watched by 5, 6, or 7% of households as the "show that everyone's watching". If there were truth in showbiz coverage, the finale of the Sopranos, for instance, would have been featured in the news with the headline "The Show That 96% of Americans Didn't Watch Last Night." It helps to keep things in perspective.

Even the Superbowl is not watched by 2/3rds of the country.

Or "The show that everyone is talking about".

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:47:50am

re: #65 Fozzie Bear

I dunno, I think she's very pretty. It's just sad that she's such a soulless parasite. I had hopes she would escape the Palin mold, but I guess not.

She's a pretty girl who found herself in a really bizarre situation--enough to blow any young mother's mind.

The inherent cognitive contradictions of being Bristol Palin the last few years have been mind-blowing. I can hardly blame her for not being strong-minded enough to chart her own course. Her big brother is, but he wasn't parenting before he bailed from Wasilla.

92 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:48:05am

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

To be perfectly fair, it's not much of a nonprofit--it's a house program for a fashion line, to provide them with some cover for selling tweens fuck-me shoes, and I bet they pay Vanessa Hudgens a hell of a lot more to model their stuff.

It looks like this "non-profit" and the "Kabbalah Centre" are in it for the big profits.

But this just gives non-profits a bad name. There are still some non-profits, like mine, that make no profit.

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:48:33am

re: #87 Charleston Chew

Agreed. See: the Jersey Shore.

94 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:49:05am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

"One's a bleeding heart liberal and the other a staunch conservative, now they will be forced to share the same house in VH1's reality show "Red & Blue."

You just outed yourself as a top TV executive.

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:49:13am

re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And with Vanessa, you get the bonus publicity of her bawling that someone posted naked pics that she thought were private every 4-6 weeks.

Plus, she's gorgeous. Bonus all around!

(My God Vanessa Hudgens is pretty. It's ridiculous.)

96 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:49:18am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

Agreed. See: the Jersey Shore.

Just so long as we don't have to watch the Jersey Shore....

97 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:50:10am

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or "The show that everyone is talking about".

Translation: "The show that me and the 4 people I had dinner with last night are talking about."

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:50:14am

re: #96 jamesfirecat

Just so long as we don't have to watch the Jersey Shore...

You have 2 choices: Jersey Shore on a loop or this piece of rope...
//

99 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:50:29am

re: #94 Charleston Chew

You just outed yourself as a top TV executive.

Nah if I was a TV exec, I'd given it an even more tacky name.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:50:40am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

"One's a bleeding heart liberal and the other a staunch conservative, now they will be forced to share the same house in VH1's reality show "Red & Blue."

That might work with people other than Beck and Olbermann. They're too insane, though. It would end up like that 'dark-sided' woman, except they'd both be doing it. Or a non-marital version of "The War of the Roses".

And, BTW, I think the liberal-and-conservative-share-a-house show should be called "A House Divided".

101 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:51:35am

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Plus, she's gorgeous. Bonus all around!

(My God Vanessa Hudgens is pretty. It's ridiculous.)

Eh, something about her just turns me off.

102 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:51:55am

If there is gonna be a liberal/conservative show, I want knives and mushrooms involved.

103 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:52:34am

Neil Hamburger

104 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:52:59am

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

That might work with people other than Beck and Olbermann. They're too insane, though. It would end up like that 'dark-sided' woman, except they'd both be doing it. Or a non-marital version of "The War of the Roses".

And, BTW, I think the liberal-and-conservative-share-a-house show should be called "A House Divided".

A House Divided is nice since it's got both the literal aspect and is a play off the old Lincoln quote from the Lincoln-Douglass debates. And Beck and Olbermann being crazy would be exactly what the execs would want. I mean who wants a liberal and conservative who can disagree with each other friendly. No, I say they need to be hardcore like Glenn and Keith.

105 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:55:03am

If there is a liberal/conservative thing, I want to see the person with the opposing ideology be forced to attend things associated with the opposing ideology. For example, the liberal has to go to a born again revival while the conservative attends a vegan cookoff.

106 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:56:06am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Nah if I was a TV exec, I'd given it an even more tacky name.

If you were really a TV exec, you would have described them as "the original Odd Couple!"

107 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:56:56am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

If there is a liberal/conservative thing, I want to see the person with the opposing ideology be forced to attend things associated with the opposing ideology. For example, the liberal has to go to a born again revival while the conservative attends a vegan cookoff.

See: every episode of "Wife Swap". (also "30 Days")

108 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:57:11am

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Eh, something about her just turns me off.

She looks like a kid to me. Can't deal with overly-childlike women.

109 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:57:11am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

If there is a liberal/conservative thing, I want to see the person with the opposing ideology be forced to attend things associated with the opposing ideology. For example, the liberal has to go to a born again revival while the conservative attends a vegan cookoff.

That only works if we apply meaningless milestones to what it means to be conservative or liberal since one can be deeply spiritual and vote D or a vegan and vote R. Thus we'd be taking important complex issues and boiling them down into meaningless bits of short hand that don't address any real issues.....

Sounds perfect for television!

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:58:34am

I never watched more than ten minutes of his show.

yay, me.

111 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:59:47am

Meanwhile here in Wisconsin we are down to only the one precinct, Lake Mills, it's down to the wire. There are about 700 votes up in the air there...

[Link: host.madison.com...]

"With 3,629 of 3,630 precincts reporting as of noon Wednesday, challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg led incumbent Justice David Prosser by 235 votes, 739,589 to 739,354."

112 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 10:59:50am

Although I would like to see this as a sign that Fox is going to start cleaning up its act I doubt that will happen. My guess is they'll move 9-11 Truther Andrew Napolitano into his spot at least temporarily.

113 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:00:17am

re: #109 jamesfirecat

That only works if we apply meaningless milestones to what it means to be conservative or liberal since one can be deeply spiritual and vote D or a vegan and vote R. Thus we'd be taking important complex issues and boiling them down into meaningless bits of short hand that don't address any real issues...

Sounds perfect for television!

My grandfather got a Christmas card from the W Bush White House because he's an elderly, white, rural voter. This tickled him because he's voted straight Democrat his whole life.

114 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:00:24am

re: #111 wlewisiii

Meanwhile here in Wisconsin we are down to only the one precinct, Lake Mills, it's down to the wire. There are about 700 votes up in the air there...

[Link: host.madison.com...]

"With 3,629 of 3,630 precincts reporting as of noon Wednesday, challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg led incumbent Justice David Prosser by 235 votes, 739,589 to 739,354."

Damn, that's amazingly close.

115 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:01:10am

re: #114 Killgore Trout

Damn, that's amazingly close.

ACORN!!11ty

116 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:01:23am

re: #109 jamesfirecat

That only works if we apply meaningless milestones to what it means to be conservative or liberal since one can be deeply spiritual and vote D or a vegan and vote R. Thus we'd be taking important complex issues and boiling them down into meaningless bits of short hand that don't address any real issues...

Sounds perfect for television!

Well yeah. And yeah I was kinda thinking of Wife Swap but also some Real World too.

117 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:01:33am

re: #114 Killgore Trout

Damn, that's amazingly close.

You'd think by now, most people would realize how powerful one vote really is.

118 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:02:36am

re: #117 thedopefishlives

You'd think by now, most people would realize how powerful one vote really is.

How many voters were "tricked" by a "butterfly ballot"?

119 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:03:52am

re: #111 wlewisiii

Meanwhile here in Wisconsin we are down to only the one precinct, Lake Mills, it's down to the wire. There are about 700 votes up in the air there...

[Link: host.madison.com...]

"With 3,629 of 3,630 precincts reporting as of noon Wednesday, challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg led incumbent Justice David Prosser by 235 votes, 739,589 to 739,354."

Wow, that's amazingly close. It's funny because I was watching Recount with some friends from College Dems last night. Great acting all around.

120 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:05:58am

re: #114 Killgore Trout

Damn, that's amazingly close.

If those 700 votes break the way that the rest of that particular country has (58 to 42 in Prosser's favor)

then he'll get 406 votes while Kloppenburg gets 294.

That means the final vote tallies would be

739760 Prosser
739883 Koppenburg.

Granted that's a margin of victory of 123 votes, so moral of the story this could break either way pretty easily.

121 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:06:01am

re: #118 Alouette

How many voters were "tricked" by a "butterfly ballot"?

All those still inflicted by the disease of Hanging Chads!

122 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:08:01am

Thanks, wingnuts....
In White House's view, Paul Ryan's plan a weapon for 2012


Senior Democratic strategists told POLITICO that the Ryan plan is almost certain to be a centerpiece of their advertising and fundraising efforts.

“It was a good day for Democrats,” said J.B. Poersch, former executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee who is heading an independent expenditure effort for Democrats in 2012. “It’s going to sting [Republicans]. This is a news flash for seniors. It’s probably an overreach, and they are likely to pay politically.”

123 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:09:04am

re: #117 thedopefishlives

You'd think by now, most people would realize how powerful one vote really is.

If they didn't learn from the 2000 vote, screw 'em.

124 blueraven  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:09:09am

SwingSate reporting that Jefferson county has been counted and Prosser only picked up a few votes.

[Link: twitter.com...]

[Link: www.swingstateproject.com...]

125 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:09:18am

@Coryography Cory Walton
Following Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice race. Joanne Kloppenburg unseating Scott Walker's David Prosser would be a first since 1852.

126 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:10:15am

re: #125 Gus 802

@Coryography Cory Walton
Following Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice race. Joanne Kloppenburg unseating Scott Walker's David Prosser would be a first since 1852.

Epic.

127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:11:00am

I haven't been around lately. What is the balance of the Wisconsin SC?

128 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:11:36am

re: #126 Killgore Trout

Epic.

Doesn't look final yet but yep.

How's that Tea Party working out for you Republicans? What happened to the "Republican revolution"?

This is an obvious backlash to Walker.

129 jaunte  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:12:30am

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

4-3

And if Kloppenburg wins the judicial contest, the Supreme Court would lose its 4-3 conservative majority. Prosser would not step down until August, however, so he might still be on the bench to rule on Walker's labor law. [Link: www.latimes.com...]
130 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:12:30am

re: #128 Gus 802

Doesn't look final yet but yep.

How's that Tea Party working out for you Republicans? What happened to the "Republican revolution"?

This is an obvious backlash to Walker.


Do you see what happens, Scott? DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU F**K THE MIDDLE CLASS? THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, SCOTT? THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU F**K THE MIDDLE CLASS!

131 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:13:59am

UPDATE 69: Supreme Court REPORTING 99% - RESULTS as of Wed., 4/6/2011 at 01:08pm CDT;
Joanne Kloppenburg 739,379 50%
David Prosser (inc) 739,043 50%

Source: [Link: www.bazics.net...]

132 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:14:15am

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Thanks, wingnuts...
In White House's view, Paul Ryan's plan a weapon for 2012

You know I've heard for a while now that Ryan is this future star in the GOP, I was really surprised that he didn't run for the governor's seat in Wisconsin or Feingold's seat. Not going to have too many years like 2010 that are ripe for Republicans. Don't know about how he's viewed statewide or much about his district though.

133 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:14:18am

re: #128 Gus 802

Doesn't look final yet but yep.

How's that Tea Party working out for you Republicans? What happened to the "Republican revolution"?

This is an obvious backlash to Walker.


I think the fact that it's even close is a victory. Prosser had an easy victory in an election that normally most people wouldn't care about. It's become a serious issue and it's an indication of things to come. Republicans are going to have a very hard time holding on.

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:15:42am

re: #131 Gus 802

UPDATE 69: Supreme Court REPORTING 99% - RESULTS as of Wed., 4/6/2011 at 01:08pm CDT;
Joanne Kloppenburg 739,379 50%
David Prosser (inc) 739,043 50%

Source: [Link: www.bazics.net...]

Is there an automatic recount when it is that close? Like the one in Florida? (which is our law)

135 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:15:43am

I think it's clear that people are pissed at Walker. I think the Republicans crossed a bridge too far with the legislation not just in Wisconsin but in Ohio & Indiana too. This kinda stuff will hurt them in 2012.

136 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:16:04am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Don't know about how he's viewed statewide or much about his district though.


I'm not sure either but recent Republican antics are costing them in the polls. His budget targeting seniors will surely cost him a lot of votes. It was a very stupid thing to propose.

137 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:16:25am

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is there an automatic recount when it is that close? Like the one in Florida? (which is our law)

There's no automatic recount, but since the loss was so close the loser has 3 days to request one which will be done completely at the expense of the state.

138 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:16:28am

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is there an automatic recount when it is that close? Like the one in Florida? (which is our law)

Chads!

139 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:16:31am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I think it's clear that people are pissed at Walker. I think the Republicans crossed a bridge too far with the legislation not just in Wisconsin but in Ohio & Indiana too. This kinda stuff will hurt them in 2012.

Florida too.

140 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:17:14am

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Florida too.

Maybe Maine.

141 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:17:25am

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is there an automatic recount when it is that close? Like the one in Florida? (which is our law)

No automatic one, but either candidate can request one at no cost to them if the margin is at half a percent or below.

142 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:17:32am

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Florida too.

Yeah, forgot about Scott's proposed cuts to the developmentally disabled. The hell was he thinking.

143 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:18:54am

Bryan Fischer "clarifies" his rabbits statement

My column of yesterday has lit up the blogosphere with false accusations that I am some kind of virulent racist.

This was in response to my statement that our welfare policies – in which we subsidize and reward sex outside of marriage – is incentivizing people of all ethnic groups to “rut like rabbits.” This is a simple and unmistakable fact. You get more of whatever you subsidize, and we are clearly getting more sex outside of marriage and more children born out of wedlock than ever before. (I have since made changes in my original column to clarify any confusion and misinterpretation of my comments.)

I was commenting on the effect of our misguided welfare policies across the board, and was not singling out the African-American community in particular, although the consequences of our disastrous welfare policies are felt most acutely there. I was speaking generally to the fact that fallen human nature is going to gravitate to whatever behavior government rewards, even if the behavior itself is self-destructive.

Because we are subsidizing fornication and illegitimacy – every illegitimate baby means more taxpayer money for the mother

144 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:18:58am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Yeah, forgot about Scott's proposed cuts to the developmentally disabled. The hell was he thinking.

"they weren't going to vote for me anyway"

145 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:19:23am

re: #137 jamesfirecat

re: #141 Obdicut

Thanks. I'm not sure of our law for SC votes. Auto for the 2000 vote for Prez.

146 simoom  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:19:59am

re: #112 Killgore Trout

Although I would like to see this as a sign that Fox is going to start cleaning up its act I doubt that will happen.

At least for the duration of the Presidential elections. I can't help but see this (and everyone over there delegitimating Sarah Palin) as a political strategy.

Beck and Palin's populist/nationalist voices were extremely useful during President Obama's first term, and during low-turnout, off-year base elections. Both, for differing reasons, would likely be political liabilities during a Presidential election. Fox also needs to tone down the crazy so that they seem less silly when they inevitably whine that Dem candidates are avoiding their network.

If the President wins reelection I'd be shocked if they don't bring back off-the-wall rabble-rousers, in the mold of Beck, as I think they feel that during Dem control of the country, it's worked out well (politically) for them.

147 blueraven  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:20:14am

re: #141 Obdicut

No automatic one, but either candidate can request one at no cost to them if the margin is at half a percent or below.


They have to give a reason for the recount...a voting irregularity or some other reason.

148 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:20:18am

re: #143 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer "clarifies" his rabbits statement


His comments on American Indians a couple months back should leave no doubt that Bryan Fischer is a bigoted jackass.

149 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:22:07am

"I'm not a racist, I just think the blacks are breeding out of control."

lol

150 jaunte  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:22:25am

re: #143 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"to clarify any confusion and misinterpretation of my comments"


It's all your fault I sound like a racist!

151 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:23:31am

What's so racist about comparing a certain race of people to animals in an unflattering way? /

152 APox  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:23:43am

....

Was this video ever posted here?

Holy.. Fucking.. Shit.

153 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:24:00am

Prosser 739505
Kloppenburg: 739711

154 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:24:04am

Bryan Fischer is also the guy who basically said the fact that there were gay Nazis means we should disriminate agaisnt gays. Using dipshit's logic, that means we should discriminate against Christians too since there were plenty of Nazis who considered themselves CHristians.

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:24:54am

re: #152 APox

The pop up ad was for Goldline. Heh.

156 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:25:30am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Bryan Fischer is also the guy who basically said the fact that there were gay Nazis means we should disriminate agaisnt gays. Using dipshit's logic, that means we should discriminate against Christians too since there were plenty of Nazis who considered themselves CHristians.

Don't forget that the Medal of Honer was feminized because it was awarded to a soldier for saving lives and not killing the enemy. Thats another Fischerism.

157 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:26:08am

I can't believe I just misspelled honor.

158 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:26:54am

re: #157 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can't believe I just misspelled honor.

Close enough. I thought it said Homer at first.

159 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:28:24am

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't forget that the Medal of Honer was feminized because it was awarded to a soldier for saving lives and not killing the enemy. Thats another Fischerism.

Oh man I had completely forgotten about that. I didn't hear one word of outrage about that from Fischer's numerous Republican guests who kiss his ass and treat him like he's some legitimate values person.

160 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:28:45am

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Indeed!

He's a sanctimonious [deleted]. And I think that's being charitable.

161 abolitionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:29:06am

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't forget that the Medal of Honer was feminized because it was awarded to a soldier for saving lives and not killing the enemy. Thats another Fischerism.

I blame Sgt York. /dripping

162 blueraven  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:29:15am

re: #153 Gus 802

Prosser 739505
Kloppenburg: 739711

I dont get why the vote tally keeps changing with all precincts in except Jefferson, which AP shows is still out. Maybe some hand written ballots or something?

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

163 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:31:13am

According to Fischer, Desmond Doss is responsible for feminizing the MoH as well. A conscientious objector who refused to carry a weapon and served as a medic in WW2.

He was a company aid man when the 1st Battalion assaulted a jagged escarpment 400 feet (120 m) high. As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar and machinegun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying all 75 casualties one-by-one to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands. On May 2, he exposed himself to heavy rifle and mortar fire in rescuing a wounded man 200 yards (180 m) forward of the lines on the same escarpment; and 2 days later he treated 4 men who had been cut down while assaulting a strongly defended cave, advancing through a shower of grenades to within 8 yards (7.3 m) of enemy forces in a cave's mouth, where he dressed his comrades' wounds before making 4 separate trips under fire to evacuate them to safety. On May 5, he unhesitatingly braved enemy shelling and small arms fire to assist an artillery officer. He applied bandages, moved his patient to a spot that offered protection from small arms fire and, while artillery and mortar shells fell close by, painstakingly administered plasma. Later that day, when an American was severely wounded by fire from a cave, Pfc. Doss crawled to him where he had fallen 25 feet (7.6 m) from the enemy position, rendered aid, and carried him 100 yards (91 m) to safety while continually exposed to enemy fire. On May 21, in a night attack on high ground near Shuri, he remained in exposed territory while the rest of his company took cover, fearlessly risking the chance that he would be mistaken for an infiltrating Japanese and giving aid to the injured until he was himself seriously wounded in the legs by the explosion of a grenade. Rather than call another aid man from cover, he cared for his own injuries and waited 5 hours before litter bearers reached him and started carrying him to cover. The trio was caught in an enemy tank attack and Pfc. Doss, seeing a more critically wounded man nearby, crawled off the litter; and directed the bearers to give their first attention to the other man. Awaiting the litter bearers' return, he was again struck, by a sniper bullet while being carried off the field by a comrade, this time suffering a compound fracture of 1 arm. With magnificent fortitude he bound a rifle stock to his shattered arm as a splint and then crawled 300 yards (270 m) over rough terrain to the aid station. Through his outstanding bravery and unflinching determination in the face of desperately dangerous conditions Pfc. Doss saved the lives of many soldiers. His name became a symbol throughout the 77th Infantry Division for outstanding gallantry far above and beyond the call of duty.[2]

164 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:31:27am

@DangerMindsBlog Dangerous Minds
A pie chart detailing the devastating ramifications of same-sex marriage [Link: fb.me...]

165 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:33:22am

See ya'll tomorrow.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:33:50am

re: #143 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer "clarifies" his rabbits statement

1. Gotcha. We're all reckless sluts, regardless of race, creed, color or national origin. That's good to know.

2. We're not 'incentiving' illegitimate births, you moron. In fact, in California, you moron, you do NOT get any extra money if you have an additional child while you're already on benefits. In states where you do get more money, trust me, that money barely covers the essentials for that child. The idea that women are popping out babies and pocketing great wads of cash in exchange is not substantiated by even the slightest knowledge of the welfare system.

3. I thought fuckwads like you were all worried that we weren't having enough babies, and putting families first, you know, evil women prioritizing their careers and not having babies. Make up your damn mind.

167 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:34:43am

I don't get it. I thought all of Murica turned against Obama, libruls and Democrats. Kloppenburg should have conceded by now and Prosser having declared victory in Gov. Walker's state. The race should not be this close. ACORN or some people from Illinois must be involved in this.

//

168 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:35:10am

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

1. Gotcha. We're all reckless sluts, regardless of race, creed, color or national origin. That's good to know.

2. We're not 'incentiving' illegitimate births, you moron. In fact, in California, you moron, you do NOT get any extra money if you have an additional child while you're already on benefits. In states where you do get more money, trust me, that money barely covers the essentials for that child. The idea that women are popping out babies and pocketing great wads of cash in exchange is not substantiated by even the slightest knowledge of the welfare system.

3. I thought fuckwads like you were all worried that we weren't having enough babies, and putting families first, you know, evil women prioritizing their careers and not having babies. Make up your damn mind.

Having babies you can't afford is bad, but taking steps to prevent babies you can't afford is a mortal sin.

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:35:20am

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't forget that the Medal of Honer was feminized because it was awarded to a soldier for saving lives and not killing the enemy. Thats another Fischerism.

And, we have to kill all the grizzly bears. Plus, gays are soooo screwed, because now that DADT has gone down, they won't have that easy out from military service any more--stooooopid gays!!!

//Why do I know so many of the dumb things Bryan Fischer has said, just off the top of my head?

170 subsailor68  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:36:07am

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I don't know Mr. Fischer, and have never read him. But, I would recommend he take a look at the reason this gentleman was awarded the Medal of Honor:

Ed Freeman

From the entry:

On November 14, 1965, Freeman and his unit transported a battalion of American soldiers to the Ia Drang Valley. Later, after arriving back at base, they learned that the soldiers had come under intense fire and had taken heavy casualties. Enemy fire around the landing zones was so heavy that the medical evacuation helicopters refused to fly in to the landing zone. Freeman and his commander, Major Bruce Crandall, volunteered to fly their unarmed, lightly armored UH-1 Huey in support of the embattled troops. Freeman made a total of fourteen trips to the battlefield, bringing in water and ammunition and taking out wounded soldiers under heavy enemy fire in what was later named the Battle of Ia Drang. By the time they landed their heavily damaged Huey, Captain Freeman had been wounded four times by ground fire.

Mr. Freeman was awarded the medal for risking his life - not to kill the enemy - but to supply his comrades and fly the wounded to safety.

Is that "feminizing" the medal Mr. Fischer?

I think not.

171 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:36:11am

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What a pussy.

/

172 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:36:17am

Bryan Fischer has performed a miracle and that's making the AFA look like bigger assholes than they already were.

173 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:36:28am

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

According to Fischer, Desmond Doss is responsible for feminizing the MoH as well. A conscientious objector who refused to carry a weapon and served as a medic in WW2.

If everyone in the world had a trading card like baseball players, Desmond Doss would be worth a thousand Charlie Sheens.

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:36:50am

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

According to Fischer, Desmond Doss is responsible for feminizing the MoH as well. A conscientious objector who refused to carry a weapon and served as a medic in WW2.

When Fischer came out with that crap, I actually spend some time reading the MoH commendations from WWII. Lots and lots of them are for valor in saving people, possibly more than those issues for killing bunches of the enemy.

175 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:37:37am

The Latest: Kloppenburg Ahead -- With All Precincts Reported

All 100 percent of the precincts appear to be counted in the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, which has become a proxy political battle over Republican Gov. Scott Walker's anti-public employee union legislation. And while a recount now appears certain, the very stunning result is that incumbent conservative Justice David Prosser -- who should have been re-elected easily as of just a few weeks ago -- now narrowly trails his liberal-backed challenger, Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg.

The local NBC affiliate in Milwaukee reports that the final precinct has reported: the town of Lake Mills gave Prosser a net pickup of only two votes: Prosser 366, Kloppenburg 364...

176 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:37:43am

re: #167 Gus 802

I don't get it. I thought all of Murica turned against Obama, libruls and Democrats. Kloppenburg should have conceded by now and Prosser having declared victory in Gov. Walker's state. The race should not be this close. ACORN or some people from Illinois must be involved in this.

//

Wait for it. If she wins, voter fraud will be invoked.

177 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:37:59am

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

1. Gotcha. We're all reckless sluts, regardless of race, creed, color or national origin. That's good to know.

2. We're not 'incentiving' illegitimate births, you moron. In fact, in California, you moron, you do NOT get any extra money if you have an additional child while you're already on benefits. In states where you do get more money, trust me, that money barely covers the essentials for that child. The idea that women are popping out babies and pocketing great wads of cash in exchange is not substantiated by even the slightest knowledge of the welfare system.

3. I thought fuckwads like you were all worried that we weren't having enough babies, and putting families first, you know, evil women prioritizing their careers and not having babies. Make up your damn mind.

The position is that white women aren't having enough white babies. This guy is classic Aryan Nation, with a sanctimonious churchy veneer. There's no real difference between him and a neo-nazi.

178 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:38:55am

re: #177 Fozzie Bear

The position is that white women aren't having enough white babies. This guy is classic Aryan Nation, with a sanctimonious churchy veneer. There's no real difference between him and a neo-nazi.

//Are you sure the neo-nazi isn't more honest?

179 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:39:01am

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Most historians who interview infantry veterans will tell you that their respect for medics is not matched by anything else.

180 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:39:07am

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

When Fischer came out with that crap, I actually spend some time reading the MoH commendations from WWII. Lots and lots of them are for valor in saving people, possibly more than those issues for killing bunches of the enemy.

Fischer's view of Christianity has more in common with a Khorne Kult than with Jesus.

181 simoom  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:39:39am

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Thanks, wingnuts...
In White House's view, Paul Ryan's plan a weapon for 2012

I get the feeling that Politico wanted that headline, so they trolled through their "go to" background sources for the quotes they needed, but they didn't really pull it off (as noone in the admin was stupid enough to say that). They then seem to have used the headline anyway.

The reality is that Democrats with close ties to the White House believe Ryan has handed Obama a powerful political weapon for 2012 — an issue that starkly defines the GOP as a party bent on attacking the vulnerable with the potential to cause the same kind of damage as George W. Bush’s ill-fated plan to privatize Social Security.

So, here we have some non-admin Dems offering their opinion.

Senior Democratic strategists told POLITICO that the Ryan plan is almost certain to be a centerpiece of their advertising and fundraising efforts.

More non-admin Dems offering their opinion.

“It was a good day for Democrats,” said J.B. Poersch, former executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee who is heading an independent expenditure effort for Democrats in 2012. “It’s going to sting [Republicans]. This is a news flash for seniors. It’s probably an overreach, and they are likely to pay politically.”

The head of some sort of PR firm (SKDKnickerbocker) offering his opinion.

182 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:39:53am

re: #178 jamesfirecat

//Are you sure the neo-nazi isn't more honest?

Absolutely. A neo-nazi wouldn't try to sugar coat it.

183 jamesfirecat  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:39:53am

re: #180 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fischer's view of Christianity has more in common with a Khorne Kult than with Jesus.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

184 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:39:54am

re: #173 Charleston Chew

If everyone in the world had a trading card like baseball players, Desmond Doss would be worth a thousand Charlie Sheens.

Fugeddaboutit! They're not even in the same league. Not even the same sport. Heck, not even in the same damned universe.

185 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:42:19am

re: #173 Charleston Chew

If everyone in the world had a trading card like baseball players, Desmond Doss would be worth a thousand Charlie Sheens.

And Charlie Sheen would be worth a thousand Bryan Fischers.

186 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:44:22am

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't get me wrong, but while women do not likely get pregnant just to get more money, in many cases they do not either not get pregnant because they can't afford it.

In Florida at least they will get more money for a larger place to rent if they have more children and they will get more food stamps and, needless to say, they will need more Medicaid help.

187 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:48:03am

re: #186 Naso Tang

Don't get me wrong, but while women do not likely get pregnant just to get more money, in many cases they do not either not get pregnant because they can't afford it.

In Florida at least they will get more money for a larger place to rent if they have more children and they will get more food stamps and, needless to say, they will need more Medicaid help.

The question that seems most relevant to me is this: Does the welfare program (or medicaid) there cover contraception, and if not, why not? It sure as hell should.

188 simoom  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:50:41am

re: #175 Gus 802

The Latest: Kloppenburg Ahead -- With All Precincts Reported

I hope nationally, the Dems realize that the outcome of this race is important (for the inevitable media narrative), as the GOP definitely sees it that way. GOP groups poured money in when Prosser's numbers did a nosedive, so I imagine he'll have a well financed team of election lawyers, for the recount. Kloppenburg will need her own team of lawyers to fight ballot challenges.

189 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:50:45am

re: #181 simoom

Lets face it, Politico is pretty much a wingnut rag now.

190 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:51:49am

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

The question that seems most relevant to me is this: Does the welfare program (or medicaid) there cover contraception, and if not, why not? It sure as hell should.

I think you know why not.//

191 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:52:40am

re: #188 simoom

I hope nationally, the Dems realize that the outcome of this race is important (for the inevitable media narrative), as the GOP definitely sees it that way. GOP groups poured money in when Prosser's numbers did a nosedive, so I imagine he'll have a well financed team of election lawyers, for the recount. Kloppenburg will need her own team of lawyers to fight ballot challenges.

Yep. There will be a recount. So far she's the unofficial winner by about 219 votes.

Wisconsinites narrowly reject Gov. Walker/right wing/anti-labor agenda by a narrow margin.

192 Kragar  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:54:30am

re: #190 Naso Tang

I think you know why not.//

and just in case you need a reminder...

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:55:52am

re: #186 Naso Tang

Don't get me wrong, but while women do not likely get pregnant just to get more money, in many cases they do not either not get pregnant because they can't afford it.

In Florida at least they will get more money for a larger place to rent if they have more children and they will get more food stamps and, needless to say, they will need more Medicaid help.

And frankly, I like that better than what we've got in California. But I am a bleeding-heart liberal.

The problem is that Fischer isn't talking about welfare policy, or welfare reform. We do have an ongoing problem with a significant minority of recipients who stay on welfare for extended periods (although most families leave the system pretty quickly). There are a bunch of reasons for this, and they could be addressed. But Fischer's not interested in welfare reform in any sense except taking money away from people who he figures don't deserve it, and riling people up to think that black welfare queens are taking their money away from them.

And Fischer would assuredly fight tooth and nail against any programs that might actually work to get families out of entrenched generational poverty.

194 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:57:32am

re: #191 Gus 802

Yep. There will be a recount. So far she's the unofficial winner by about 219 votes.

Wisconsinites narrowly reject Gov. Walker/right wing/anti-labor agenda by a narrow margin.

Still, an off year April Supreme Court election resulting in a loss for the incumbent is notable. Especially when that same incumbent won the primary 55% to 25% against the same opponent just a few months ago.

I don't expect the GOP to be smart enough to pay attention, but they should.

195 recusancy  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:57:44am

re: #189 Fozzie Bear

Lets face it, Politico is pretty much a wingnut rag now.

It's a tabloid creating controversy to get clicks. Saying wingnutty things gets clicks.

196 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:58:15am

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Still, an off year April Supreme Court election resulting in a loss for the incumbent is notable. Especially when that same incumbent won the primary 55% to 25% against the same opponent just a few months ago.

I don't expect the GOP to be smart enough to pay attention, but they should.

If the GOP payed attention they wouldn't be the GOP. ;)

197 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:59:15am

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

The question that seems most relevant to me is this: Does the welfare program (or medicaid) there cover contraception, and if not, why not? It sure as hell should.

To add, I believe that such help is available from Planned Parenthood and also for young women under state guardianship, but obviously there is no state disincentive for single parenthood, but just how that might be managed I don't know

198 recusancy  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:01:16pm

More absurdity from Ryan's "budget". To get his numbers he projects 2.8% unemployment.

199 sffilk  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:01:57pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

Now who will I turn to in order to get my daily dose of crazy all throughout the 2012 election post primaries?

Sean Hannity?
Neil Boortz?

There's also a new idiot here on WSB radio in Atlanta.

200 recusancy  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:03:03pm

re: #199 sffilk

Sean Hannity?
Neil Boortz?

There's also a new idiot here on WSB radio in Atlanta.

Well, Fox isn't going anywhere and I don't think they'll be hiring Brokaw to fill his slot.

201 simoom  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:03:37pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Yep. There will be a recount. So far she's the unofficial winner by about 219 votes.

Wisconsinites narrowly reject Gov. Walker/right wing/anti-labor agenda by a narrow margin.

Ugg :P. You're probably right about that narrative, when what it should be is something about how Kloppenburg wasn't even remotely competitive in the first round of the election, and that the one thing that's changed is Walker's recent antics. That it's historically nearly impossible to unseat an incumbent judge with no party ID on the ballot. That independent advertising expenditures favored Prosser by ~50%. And maybe something like this exert from a regional Wisconsin paper:

Governor Scott Walker’s name was not on yesterday’s local election ballots. But those who lost county executive races in the state’s two largest counties said the political turmoil caused by Walker’s policies played big roles in their defeats.
202 Jack Burton  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:05:14pm

re: #200 recusancy

Well, Fox isn't going anywhere and I don't think they'll be hiring Brokaw to fill his slot.

Maybe Glenn Beck wasn't crazy enough for them. I can see it now...

The Alex Jones Show on FOX, every day in Beck's old slot.

203 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:05:39pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist


And Fischer would assuredly fight tooth and nail against any programs that might actually work to get families out of entrenched generational poverty.

There are no doubt many things that could be done in that direction, but to be honest I do not think it is possible for any single mother, without even a GED, and 2-4 children, with different fathers (absent or in jail) to ever completely break out of that trench. The only long term solution is to break the cycle before conception, and abstinence propaganda alone won't do that.

204 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:07:08pm

re: #188 simoom

The Brooks Brothers Brigade, writ small.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:08:49pm

re: #197 Naso Tang

To add, I believe that such help is available from Planned Parenthood and also for young women under state guardianship, but obviously there is no state disincentive for single parenthood, but just how that might be managed I don't know

Planned Parenthood. A private nonprofit whose federal funding is constantly under attack from the likes of Fischer, and which is supposed to be the instrument of black genocide. How horribly appropriate.

When guys like Fischer get rolling on the state incentivizing this and disincentivizing that, and there are uteri involved, all that pops into my head is those photos of women wearing the awards the Nazis gave out for having lots of Aryan children. What about incentivizing women to get educations and go to work by providing child care? Or is that too socialistic?

206 Gus  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:10:36pm

BBL

207 Charleston Chew  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:11:36pm

re: #198 recusancy

More absurdity from Ryan's "budget". To get his numbers he projects 2.8% unemployment.

It's such a relief to know that unemployment will be at historically low levels in 10 years. And it's a double relief to know that nothing could ever happen to prevent that.

Here's a chart with state unemployment historical lows for comparison. It ranges from 2.1 to 5.9.

208 celticdragon  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:16:02pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Yep. There will be a recount. So far she's the unofficial winner by about 219 votes.

Wisconsinites narrowly reject Gov. Walker/right wing/anti-labor agenda by a narrow margin.

Ed Morrisey is already spinning this as a shocking misstep by the Dems, since they didn't blow the incumbent Supreme Court justice out of the water by a twenty point lead.

209 celticdragon  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:17:32pm

re: #187 Fozzie Bear

The question that seems most relevant to me is this: Does the welfare program (or medicaid) there cover contraception, and if not, why not? It sure as hell should.

Because their is a substantial bunch of religious conservatives who think all contraception is evil and should be banned outright.

I wish that was a joke.

210 What, me worry?  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:17:35pm

re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist

Planned Parenthood. A private nonprofit whose federal funding is constantly under attack from the likes of Fischer, and which is supposed to be the instrument of black genocide. How horribly appropriate.

When guys like Fischer get rolling on the state incentivizing this and disincentivizing that, and there are uteri involved, all that pops into my head is those photos of women wearing the awards the Nazis gave out for having lots of Aryan children. What about incentivizing women to get educations and go to work by providing child care? Or is that too socialistic?

Ya damn commie.

The latest snit on one of Ice's posts involves Buck defending the GOP on the war against women. I guess someone has to do it. I suppose Benedict Arnold had some friends, too.

211 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:17:45pm

And in other news, Scott Walker announced that the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe would be handling the recount procedures for Justice Prosser.

/////

212 celticdragon  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:17:52pm

meh. I meant "there", not "their".

213 celticdragon  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:21:21pm

re: #180 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fischer's view of Christianity has more in common with a Khorne Kult than with Jesus.

We are at War with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of Inquisitors in the service of Our Emperor. Praise His name for in our resolve we only reflect his purpose of will.
The Book of Exorcisms, the Verses of Inquisitor Enoch

214 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:21:41pm

re: #210 marjoriemoon

Ya damn commie.

The latest snit on one of Ice's posts involves Buck defending the GOP on the war against women. I guess someone has to do it. I suppose Benedict Arnold had some friends, too.

It's all just a game to Buck. He doesn't have to live here, as he is Canadian.

215 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:21:42pm

BBL

216 What, me worry?  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:27:28pm

re: #214 Fozzie Bear

It's all just a game to Buck. He doesn't have to live here, as he is Canadian.

I did not know that.

217 Stanghazi  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:35:17pm

re: #216 marjoriemoon

I did not know that.

re: #216 marjoriemoon

I did not know that.

It amazes me the deep affection for the GOP some neighbors to the north have.

218 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:41:06pm

re: #217 Stanley Sea

re: #216 marjoriemoon

It amazes me the deep affection for the GOP some neighbors to the north have.

They don't have to live with the results. It's free entertainment. If I were Canadian, this would all probably seem pretty funny to me.

219 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 12:43:43pm

re: #218 Fozzie Bear

They don't have to live with the results. It's free entertainment. If I were Canadian, this would all probably seem pretty funny to me.

That's not to say Canadians can't contribute. But really, the man's a troll.

220 Petero1818  Wed, Apr 6, 2011 1:00:56pm

Trump / Beck 2012


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