Donald Trump's Birther Lunacy is Working (Big Time)

Donald Trump’s Birther Lunacy is Working (Big Time)

Rich Birther big hit with Teabaggers

WingnutsApril 2011 • Views: 31,344

How do you win the support of the GOP’s Tea Party base in 2011? It’s so easy even Donald Trump figured it out; you pander to lunatics: NBC/WSJ poll: Trump tied for 2nd in 2012 GOP field.

According to the latest national NBC/WSJ poll, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney leads the hypothetical 2012 GOP pack with support from 21 percent of Republican primary voters — followed by Trump and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 17 percent each, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 11 percent and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin at 10 percent. …

Strikingly, Trump — who has received a considerable amount of attention for incorrectly stating that President Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. — finishes first among Tea Party supporters (at 20 percent), followed by Romney (17 percent), Huckabee (14 percent), Palin (12 percent) and Gingrich (9 percent).

Trump Goes Birther Trump Goes Full-On Loony Donald Trump’s Birther Lunacy is Working

UPDATE at 4/6/11 6:55:38 pm

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

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354 comments

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:28:39pm

Ain’t this just a *&^%$!

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:29:02pm

I half see this as a result of his birther nonsense and half because GOPers know that their candidates, in general, fucking suck. So why not Trump?

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:29:36pm

Vote for the Hair! It has a life of it’s own!

jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:29:43pm

The GOP message in 2012? One race to the bottom after another!

Fozzie Bear Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:29:46pm

I predict he will win the nomination, and the dead animal on his head will be his running mate.

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:30:06pm

I don’t care what he says or does, he doesn’t stand a chance with that hair.

Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:31:08pm

The Tea Party ♥ Donald’s hair.

moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:31:20pm

re: #1 ggt

Ain’t this just a *&^%$!

LOL!

Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:32:35pm

Most people don’t know this, but Donald’s coif is a direct copy of Thomas Jefferson’s do. He has founding father hair.

David Barton told me, so it must be true.

b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:33:50pm

re: #9 Charles

Most people don’t know this, but Donald’s coif is a direct copy of Thomas Jefferson’s do. He has founding father hair.

David Barton told me, so it must be true.

Is it true people have witnessed an image of Jesus in his hair?

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:33:55pm

He’s weathy enough to get transplants or a really good rug. He could hire a person to revamp his rug on a daily basis.

WTF?

The dye job sucks too!

Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:34:09pm

Completely rudderless, no ideas, no morals, no direction, no adults.

Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:34:19pm

Do I…
Laugh hysterically?
Cry?
Both?

avanti Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:34:32pm

The GOP needs a candidate that is

a birther
a creationist
pro-life
pro death penalty
a young earther
anti AGW
anti Mosque

and repeats cut taxes, drill baby drill, give me back my light bulbs and gas guzzlers and give me that old time Christain music.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:35:09pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Completely rudderless, no ideas, no morals, no direction, no adults.

He’s the face of irresponsible corporate greed. He’s a very good GOP figurehead for their current incarnation. Except he needs to get a lot more religious, fast.

engineer cat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:35:15pm

Donald Trump/Vanna White 2012!

yes! i can see the bumperstickers!

“Can I Have A Vowel???”

“America - You’re Fired!”

Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:35:26pm

re: #10 b_sharp

Is it true people have witnessed an image of Jesus in his hair?

The Donald could really lock up the nomination if he follows up the Birtherism with some good ol’ Rushdoony-style religion.

b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:35:33pm

re: #14 avanti

The GOP needs a candidate that is

a birther
a creationist
pro-life
pro death penalty
a young earther
anti AGW
anti Mosque

and repeats cut taxes, drill baby drill, give me back my light bulbs and gas guzzlers and give me that old time Christain music.

Where, oh where, could they possibly find that?

Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:36:31pm

More 9-11 truthers on fox….
Jesse Ventura “When You Read Some Of These Documents You Could Substitute The Word Nazi”

Youtube Video

This is what will probably replace Glenn Beck’s show.

jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:36:35pm

re: #14 avanti

The GOP needs a candidate that is

a birther
a creationist
pro-life
pro death penalty
a young earther
anti AGW
anti Mosque

and repeats cut taxes, drill baby drill, give me back my light bulbs and gas guzzlers and give me that old time Christain music.

Reagan OS version 9-11!

albusteve Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:37:11pm

like I said, Donald is the new pink…it would not surprise me if he actually goes for it…talk about 15min of fame

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:37:50pm

re: #17 Charles

The Donald could really lock up the nomination if he follows up the Birtherism with some good ol’ Rushdoony-style religion.

He hasn’t been hit with a serious negative ad campaign yet. Hit him with a good one and his standing would fall swiftly. Politically, he has a glass jaw.

SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:38:47pm

I think I am going to register Republican just so I can vote for Trump in the primaries.

Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:38:49pm

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

He hasn’t been hit with a serious negative ad campaign yet. Hit him with a good one and his standing would fall swiftly. Politically, he has a glass jaw.

Glass? Nah. That’s too tacky for him. I’m sure it’s made of crystal.

albusteve Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:40:09pm

and our congress looks more like the View everyday….yeeha!

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:40:21pm

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

albusteve Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:41:23pm

re: #26 darthstar

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

LOL!

Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:41:36pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

at 4:30 they praise Bradley Manning as a hero, claim he’s being tortured and call our troops murders.

freetoken Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:42:11pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Perhaps “The Body” could be the color commentator on a show hosted by “The Judge”?

Stanley Sea Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:42:12pm

He’s selling a fucking product. America FUCK YEAH.

gah

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:42:14pm

re: #7 Charles

But, is it REALLY Donald’s hair?

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:42:51pm

re: #23 SpaceJesus

I think I am going to register Republican just so I can vote for Trump in the primaries.

That’s like Republicans voting for Hillary during the last go-round. Kind of tacky, if you ask me.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:44:18pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

at 4:30 they praise Bradley Manning as a hero, claim he’s being tortured and call our troops murders.

I hope Fox never lets Ventura on again after that. I used to enjoy hearing from him occasionally, but now he’s just another hater.

SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:44:30pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Well, my motivation is purely out of comedy and curiosity.

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:45:19pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

That’s like Republicans voting for Hillary during the last go-round. Kind of tacky, if you ask me.

Speaking of Hillary, one of her biggest primary supporters, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, is going to lead the DNC going forward, which will help to quash any republican started rumors of a Hillary primary challenge to Obama.

Even fucking Georgia (yes, FUCKING GEORGIA) is in play this time.

Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:45:50pm

re: #26 darthstar

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

True. But it tells you something when he comes in tied for second…
:/

Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:46:25pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I hope Fox never lets Ventura on again after that. I used to enjoy hearing from him occasionally, but now he’s just another hater.

Heh. Fat chance. Napolitano will have him on all the time, They’re both truthers. Fox doesn’t care and their audience doesn’t mind.

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:46:29pm

re: #36 Varek Raith

True. But it tells you something when he comes in tied for second…
:/

The base is fucking retarded?

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:46:52pm

re: #35 darthstar

Speaking of Hillary, one of her biggest primary supporters, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, is going to lead the DNC going forward, which will help to quash any republican started rumors of a Hillary primary challenge to Obama.

Even fucking Georgia (yes, FUCKING GEORGIA) is in play this time.

No, its not. The GOP will win Georgia walking away. Ease off on the left-wing Kool Aid.

b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:47:08pm

re: #34 SpaceJesus

Well, my motivation is purely out of comedy and curiosity.

So, you’re a method actor. A Methodist so to speak?

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:48:07pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Heh. Fat chance. Napolitano will have him on all the time, They’re both truthers. Fox doesn’t care and their audience doesn’t mind.

And that’s what I don’t get. Why wouldn’t any patriotic American get angry about that? The America-hate behind it is clear to see.

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:48:08pm

re:

jhrhv Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:48:32pm

If Trumps wins the job of POTUS does he call Obama into the boardroom and tell him he’s fired?

/joke

albusteve Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:48:42pm

re: #40 b_sharp

So, you’re a method actor. A Methodist so to speak?

heh…killer baked goods tho

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:49:20pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

No, its not. The GOP will win Georgia walking away. Ease off on the left-wing Kool Aid.

It’s in play. Obama’s polling within three points of Romney and the rest of those fucks right now in Georgia…sure, it’s early, and a lot of Georgians have probably forgotten that he’s black, so it can change, but still, that doesn’t say much for the Republicans.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:49:25pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

And that’s what I don’t get. Why wouldn’t any patriotic American get angry about that? The America-hate behind it is clear to see.

A lot of the anti-government hatred out there is anti-American hatred, Dark. It’s hatred for what America actually is, a secular, diverse country with a commitment to the individual.

jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:49:25pm

re: #26 darthstar

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

Lady Gaga stood up for gay rights… and I sort of like Bad Romance….

Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:49:39pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

And that’s what I don’t get. Why wouldn’t any patriotic American get angry about that? The America-hate behind it is clear to see.

Ron Paul and Glenn Beck have mainstreamed anti-American sentiment under the guise of patriotism. It’s a done deal.

recusancy Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:50:10pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

No, its not. The GOP will win Georgia walking away. Ease off on the left-wing Kool Aid.

Poll: Gingrich Trails Obama In His Own Home State Of Georgia

Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:50:22pm

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

What, me worry? Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:50:43pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Completely rudderless, no ideas, no morals, no direction, no adults.

A perfect party fit!

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:51:12pm

re: #47 jamesfirecat

Lady Gaga stood up for gay rights… and I sort of like Bad Romance…

Yep…at least the Lady and the Bieber did something positive.

Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:51:36pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

I’ve decided to laugh hysterically.
XD

recusancy Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:51:38pm

re: #50 Charles

Mark Halperin is a tool.

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:51:57pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

But Wait! there’s more!

If you buy in the next 15 minutes …

Amory Blaine Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:52:46pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

He thinks he’s George Washington!!!!

Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:52:52pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

Wait, you mean he can’t get protected medical information on Obama from hospitals that will refuse to release such information on legal and ethical grounds? I’m shocked.

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:53:06pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

Translation: The Donald is getting scammed out of some of his money.

SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:53:33pm

“Let me just say something. There’s nobody more militaristic than me, but it’s also called attack the right target. Iran is going to take over Iraq, because we have de-neutered Iraq, you know that, in terms of their military. They’re gonna take them over very quickly as soon as we leave. If that’s gonna happen, they’re gonna take over the oil fields. The second biggest oil fields in the world. And if that’s gonna happen, I say we take over the oil fields…I would take over the oil fields, because otherwise, Iran is gonna take over the second biggest oil fields in the world. I would absolutely, without question, not leave that section of that country. I would take the oil. To the victor belong the spoils. You know, in the old days, you’d have a war. And you’d be in there. And you’d win. And you’d take over the country. Whether it’s oil or gold or whatever. You take over the country.”

hahaha, trump has Civilization 4 confused with real life

b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:53:43pm

re: #47 jamesfirecat

Lady Gaga stood up for gay rights… and I sort of like Bad Romance…

Gaga has a lot of talent, but she’s given in to the dark side and believes her own show.

albusteve Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:54:00pm

BO could just do the right thing and expose himself before congress….
bada boom

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:54:01pm

re: #50 Charles

OMG.
That’s either very funny, or very sad!

Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:54:20pm

re: #59 SpaceJesus

“Let me just say something. There’s nobody more militaristic than me, but it’s also called attack the right target. Iran is going to take over Iraq, because we have de-neutered Iraq, you know that, in terms of their military. They’re gonna take them over very quickly as soon as we leave. If that’s gonna happen, they’re gonna take over the oil fields. The second biggest oil fields in the world. And if that’s gonna happen, I say we take over the oil fields…I would take over the oil fields, because otherwise, Iran is gonna take over the second biggest oil fields in the world. I would absolutely, without question, not leave that section of that country. I would take the oil. To the victor belong the spoils. You know, in the old days, you’d have a war. And you’d be in there. And you’d win. And you’d take over the country. Whether it’s oil or gold or whatever. You take over the country.”

hahaha, trump has Civilization 4 confused with real life

YOU NEED IRON TO MAKE SWORDS!

What, me worry? Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:54:23pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

So basically, he wants to make a glass plate out of the Middle East. Honestly, I can’t begin to express the travesty of this man.

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:54:27pm

I like Gaga.

I see her as the newest version of Liberace. Talent with an outrageous gimmick to get noticed.

Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:55:00pm

re: #59 SpaceJesus

You could hire on as a consultant. He NEEDS your help!

SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:55:19pm

re: #63 Varek Raith

Somebody needs to make a Donald Trump mod for the US in that game

Stanley Sea Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:55:31pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

What a fucking joke of an interview. I hate it when these journalists (be them Meredeth Viera or whoever) just let the idiots spew without a thoughtful question in between.

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:56:38pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

Trump looks like a fool when he’s getting interviewed by Meredith “Is that your final answer?” Viera? Who wants to be a thousandaire indeed! (Gail Collins called Trump a ‘thousandaire’ after one of his bankruptcies, and he circled her picture from the NYTimes and wrote something unfriendly and then mailed it to her…classy guy, that Donald.).

Amory Blaine Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:57:06pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

What a fucking joke of an interview. I hate it when these journalists (be them Meredeth Viera or whoever) just let the idiots spew without a thoughtful question in between.

I’d prefer a Bob Barker interview but that’s just me.

b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:57:08pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

Hahaha.

“…because we have de-neutered Iraq, you know that, in terms of their military”

Read more: [Link: thepage.time.com…]

De-neutered?

WTF?

Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:57:55pm

Back in the day, I looked at Ross Perot and thought “It can’t get any worse than this.”

God, how wrong I was.

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:57:57pm

re: #70 Amory Blaine

I’d prefer a Bob Barker interview but that’s just me.

Yes, any interview that ends with “Spay or neuter your pets” is a winner.

Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:58:03pm

re: #71 b_sharp

Hahaha.

De-neutered?

WTF?

We could make a killing selling that to dogs.

albusteve Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:58:05pm

re: #71 b_sharp

Hahaha.

De-neutered?

WTF?

he’s not a vet you know

simoom Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:59:19pm

Trump does Newsmax (More Birtherism and the President is both anti-Israel and allows the Muslim Brotherhood to influence our government):

Youtube Video

Trump: … and I’m hearing all sorts of stories, his own family can’t agree which hospital he was born in … and when the family argues about which hospital it was, because they’re not sure, as has been reported by you and others by the way, and then you don’t have a birth certificate, and even the article in the Houston paper was put in a number of days after the birth, it wasn’t put in the identical day, it was put in a number of days after the birth — it’s sort of a strange situation.
Q: Obama promised to run the most transparent White House in history. Has he lived up to that?

Trump: Well certainly he hasn’t in terms of his birth …

Q: Some in Israel think Obama is anti-Israel. Why do you think Obama is not standing by Israel as other President’s have done?

Trump: Well, I have a lot of Israeli friends that are not happy with Obama, and that’s a very long answer to a question that’s a difficult question, and it’s unfortunate. But I have many, many Israeli friends, and I have many Jewish friends that are not happy with President Obama and his treatment of Israel.

Q: Billy Graham’s son, Franklin says Obama is allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to have real influence in our government. Have you heard this and does it concern you?

Trump: I’m hearing more and more about the Muslim Brotherhood and it’s something that I certainly would look into very seriously.

Notice how the Newsmax interviewer seems to have a pathological aversion to using the President’s title.

Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:59:36pm

re: #75 albusteve

he’s not a vet you know

He’s not much of a businessman, either. Your point?
/

Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 6:59:58pm

re: #75 albusteve

he’s not a vet you know

But he’s very militaristic.

What, me worry? Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:00:43pm

re: #72 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Back in the day, I looked at Ross Perot and thought “It can’t get any worse than this.”

God, how wrong I was.

lol Ross on steroids.

The Donald thinks he can do what the greatest military minds couldn’t do in the last 50 years, subdue Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. If the end of the world is at hand, I can see this man starting it (if that interview is accurate).

darthstar Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:00:56pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

But he’s very militaristic.

There’s nobody more militaristic.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:00:57pm

re: #63 Varek Raith

YOU NEED IRON TO MAKE SWORDS!

Great game. I wish I could buy Civ 5, but money’s too tight (I’d need a new PC).

SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:01:08pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Gotta have that gold!

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:01:37pm

will he get a new trophy wife for the campaign?

Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:01:44pm

re: #79 marjoriemoon

lol Ross on steroids.

The Donald thinks he can do what the greatest military minds couldn’t do in the last 50 years, subdue Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. If the end of the world is at hand, I can see this man starting it (if that interview is accurate).

Wouldn’t Ross on steroids involve actually winning several states in the general, at least?

reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:01:52pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

at 4:30 they praise Bradley Manning as a hero, claim he’s being tortured and call our troops murders.

OMG.
I didn’t believe you, so I watched the video.
And yes, yes they did.
My jaw just dropped to the floor.
Probably shouldn’t have but it did.
argh.

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:02:01pm

Poor Mitt Romney. If he tries to appeal to the GOP base, he’s going to look like a blatantly spineless, pandering coward with no real principles, because people who pay attention know he’s not really one of them. If he reaches out to the moderate middle, that by definition means alienating himself from the insane (and loud) base.

ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:02:49pm

Al Jazeera Live Blog reporting did a snarky:

1:44am
Former US Senator Curt Weldon traveled to Tripoli on Wednesday to try to convince Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi to impose a cease fire on his forces and step down. Weldon led Congressional delegations to the country after Gaddafi agreed to give up its nuclear program in 2004. Check out Weldon’s curriculum vitae, published on Wired magazine’s website, for a glimpse of the ex-senator’s history of dealings with Libya, North Korea, Russia and other lovely countries.

Is reporting supposed to have a sense of humor?

I’ve had a really bad day. :(

Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:03:10pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Great game. I wish I could buy Civ 5, but money’s too tight (I’d need a new PC).

That, and they dropped Religion as a cultural driver.

KingKenrod Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:03:23pm

Trump is just trying to get people to watch his awful TV show.

Trump’s ratings on The Apprentice have been failing for some time now.

But now:

[Link: www.businessinsider.com…]

Nothing like a fresh influx of morons to bolster your reality show ratings.

What, me worry? Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:03:29pm

re: #84 Simply Sarah

Wouldn’t Ross on steroids involve actually winning several states in the general, at least?

Probably! I was thinking more in line with the level of crazy.

Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:04:08pm

re: #86 negativ

Poor Mitt Romney. If he tries to appeal to the GOP base, he’s going to look like a blatantly spineless, pandering coward with no real principles, because people who pay attention know he’s not really one of them. If he reaches out to the moderate middle, that by definition means alienating himself from the insane (and loud) base.

Mitt could have done pretty well for himself here as a nice, moderate governor. But no, he had to run from here to run to the right to run for president.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:04:49pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

But he’s very militaristic.

And those who have actually fought would know how foolish he sounds. The Romney attack ad practically writes itself with that comment.

b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:05:24pm

re: #75 albusteve

he’s not a vet you know

Hey Steve, ambiguous, multiple meaning one liners is my shtick, sharply honed snark is yours.

Who said you could combine the two? ;)

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:06:04pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

That, and they dropped Religion as a cultural driver.

That’s a mistake, but I understand why they did that. It was a potential flashpoint, that could not be simulated accurately without causing a major problem.

Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:06:28pm

re: #79 marjoriemoon

lol Ross on steroids.

The Donald thinks he can do what the greatest military minds couldn’t do in the last 50 years, subdue Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. If the end of the world is at hand, I can see this man starting it (if that interview is accurate).

Difference is Ross could claim to be a successful businessman. Meanwhile The Donald has been bouncing from bankruptcy court to bankruptcy court, with the only thing keeping him from ending up on Skid Row the image he’s cultivated over the years of being…well…a successful businessman.

But really, what does this country need more, in this time of economic decay and political strife, than a greedy businessman in the White House? What better symbol to the world of just how far we’ve fallen as a nation than a man whose only claim to fame is having hair more ridiculous than Lady Gaga?

FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:07:47pm

Wiki describes him as, among other things, a “socialite”.

ewww!

Ok, the “lite” part is right.

SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:09:56pm

so im debating switching my picture to this one:

Image: space%20jesus.jpg

which is better?

Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:10:17pm

re: #96 ggt

Wiki describes him as, among other things, a “socialite”.

ewww!

Ok, the “lite” part is right.

Wouldn’t take much of an edit to make him a ‘socialist’.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:10:36pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

so im debating switching my picture to this one:

Image: space%20jesus.jpg

which is better?

I like that one a bit better. It’s more uplifting.

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SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:11:21pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

im not sure if he’s setting the atmosphere on fire or not

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:11:23pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

so im debating switching my picture to this one:

Image: space%20jesus.jpg

which is better?

The new one.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:11:27pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

so im debating switching my picture to this one:

Image: space%20jesus.jpg

which is better?

Can you find one of him zapping aliens with laser eyebeams? I’d go with that one.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:11:42pm

re: #82 SpaceJesus

New record high, today.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:11:47pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

so im debating switching my picture to this one:

Image: space%20jesus.jpg

which is better?

Axis of spin is off.

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Stanley Sea Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:11:55pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

so im debating switching my picture to this one:

Image: space%20jesus.jpg

which is better?

I prefer the original.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:12:46pm

re: #102 Simply Sarah

Can you find one of him zapping aliens with laser eyebeams? I’d go with that one.

People and their frikkin laser beams. Whatever happened to good old fashioned atom bombs?

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Stanley Sea Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:12:49pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

I prefer the original.

He’s crying in the original.

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:12:54pm

Wiki again, a good source of fodder:

Trump is popularly known as The Donald, a nickname given to him by the media after his first wife Ivana Trump, a native of the Czech Republic, referred to him as such in an interview.[86] Trump is also known for his catchphrase, “You’re Fired”, made popular by his television series The Apprentice, and his “possibly unprecedented” double comb over hairstyle in a “lattice-like structure”,[87] which he has refused to change throughout his career. Trump does not shake hands because of fear of germs.[88]

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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:13:23pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

This one is terrible:

Image: jesusgroovycosmic.jpg

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:14:07pm

re: #96 ggt

Wiki describes him as, among other things, a “socialite”.

ewww!

Ok, the “lite” part is right.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a man being described as a “socialte”, or anyone over the age of 25.

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SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:14:08pm

re: #109 Obdicut

i dont do enough LSD to fully appreciate that one i think

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:14:13pm

re: #109 Obdicut

This one is terrible:

Image: jesusgroovycosmic.jpg

Far Out, Man! ;)

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:14:18pm

re: #109 Obdicut

This one is terrible:

Image: jesusgroovycosmic.jpg

That’s Lebowski Jesus.

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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:14:42pm

re: #108 ggt

Wiki again, a good source of fodder:

Doesn’t shake due to fear of germs? Oh goodie, so not only is a business failure, he’s also got shades of Howard Hughes. Yeah, I definitely want him near the nuclear football. *rolls eyes*

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:14:45pm

re: #110 ggt

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a man being described as a “socialte”, or anyone over the age of 25.

They still call Paris Hilton that and she’s 30.

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:15:03pm

The presidential campaign season is getting off to an early start, apparently so candidates can raise a lot of money.

Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you
And you sold me

… Have some victory gin …

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:15:20pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

He’s crying in the original.

The age of soft and sensitive is over and has been replaced by testosterone and energy weapons.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:15:53pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

They still call Paris Hilton that and she’s 30.

Socialite Transmitted Diseases.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:16:11pm

re: #109 Obdicut

This one is terrible:

Image: jesusgroovycosmic.jpg

I think I just had a seizure.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:16:54pm

re: #116 Ojoe

The presidential campaign season is getting off to an early start, apparently so candidates can raise a lot of money.

Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you
And you sold me

… Have some victory gin …

Are you just posting Burma-Shave ads?
/

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:16:55pm

re: #97 SpaceJesus

[Link: philipkochpaintings.blogspot.com…]

THis one!

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:17:23pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

They still call Paris Hilton that and she’s 30.

I guess it is usually unmarried Paris Hilton types that are socialites. Often you’ll read of an older women described as “a former socialite”. Never a man, although that may change with gay marriage.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:17:25pm

re: #114 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Doesn’t shake due to fear of germs? Oh goodie, so not only is a business failure, he’s also got shades of Howard Hughes. Yeah, I definitely want him near the nuclear football. *rolls eyes*

Doesn’t shake due to fear of germs? What does he do at the urinal?

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SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:18:20pm

re: #121 Floral Giraffe

hm, needs more outer space

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:18:28pm

re: #123 b_sharp

Doesn’t shake due to fear of germs? What does he do at the urinal?

very good!

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What, me worry? Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:18:32pm

re: #122 ggt

I guess it is usually unmarried Paris Hilton types that are socialites. Often you’ll read of an older women described as “a former socialite”. Never a man, although that may change with gay marriage.

Maybe the The Donald is hiding some deep dark secret.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:18:32pm

re: #123 b_sharp

Resist the obvious comment, resist the obvious comment.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:18:48pm

re: #124 SpaceJesus

Expand your mind…

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Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:19:52pm

re: #124 SpaceJesus

hm, needs more outer space

And maybe more Jesus.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:20:14pm

I think that Trump is the a double agent working for the Green Party…..

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:20:15pm

re: #120 Simply Sarah

Are you just posting Burma-Shave ads?
/

It’s a 1984 reference. He’ll catch hell from Walter if Walter sees that.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:20:31pm

re: #129 Simply Sarah

And maybe more Jesus.

He is kinda small.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:20:57pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

It’s a 1984 reference. He’ll catch hell from Walter if Walter sees that.

And, if Walter understands it.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:21:19pm

re: #130 The Yankee

I think that Trump is the a double agent working for the Green Party…

Step away from the bong.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:22:18pm

re: #124 SpaceJesus

hm, needs more outer space

This

Image: Astronaut_Jesus_by_anderpeich.jpg

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:22:27pm

re: #120 Simply Sarah

When I was a little kid I actually saw a few of those in the California gold country, on the yearly family vacation. Watch the fence posts my dad would say, as we approached Nevada City…

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:22:36pm

re: #133 Floral Giraffe

And, if Walter understands it.

He adapted 1984 for the stage. Believe me, Floral, he’ll understand it.

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Amory Blaine Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:22:37pm

If the Don wins the White House, he will cover it in gold and ensconce it in velvet. Flashing lights anyone?

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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:22:39pm

re: #134 b_sharp

Step away from the bong.

When your country has gone this topsy-turvy, being stoned might be the only way to cope.

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SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:22:54pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

oooo

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:23:02pm

re: #134 b_sharp

Step away from the bong.

Do Not put your hands in the air, as you may lose your balance …

Do Not slowly back away, SLOWLY turn around and walk forward.

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Amory Blaine Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:23:13pm

re: #139 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

In that case pass it over…

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SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:23:34pm

re: #138 Amory Blaine

can’t wait for the white house reality show where people try out for defense secretary

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:23:45pm

re: #140 SpaceJesus

ooo

LOL!
You liked that one!

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:23:55pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

This

Image: Astronaut_Jesus_by_anderpeich.jpg

Why do they always make Jesus so pretty. I’d think anyone living in that part of the world wouldn’t have such creamy-smooth skin by the time they were 30ish.

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SpaceJesus Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:24:27pm

re: #145 ggt

ahem

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:24:51pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

He adapted 1984 for the stage. Believe me, Floral, he’ll understand it.

Yes, always very nouveau riche.

(otherwise known as “tacky”)

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:25:03pm

Whichever candidate raises the most money is the most bought candidate.

Trump may spend his own, but he’s a grinning idiot.

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Amory Blaine Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:25:21pm

re: #145 ggt

Why do they always make Jesus so pretty. I’d think anyone living in that part of the world wouldn’t have such creamy-smooth skin by the time they were 30ish.

2 words.

Udder Balm

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:26:18pm

How about this one?

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:26:23pm

re: #146 SpaceJesus

ahem

How come Amory knows all your secrets?

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:26:33pm

re: #145 ggt

Why do they always make Jesus so pretty. I’d think anyone living in that part of the world wouldn’t have such creamy-smooth skin by the time they were 30ish.

Sanctity Protection Factor 45.

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:26:45pm

re: #149 Amory Blaine

Jesus was probably short dark & hairy.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:28:28pm

re: #134 b_sharp

Step away from the bong.

You got a better better theory? I mean it all makes sense if you think about it, weed is legal, for medical purposes, in NJ he has a casinos there and old people go to casino……. and old people are sick and most of the Tea party is sick old people…..and he doesn’t want the republicans to win cause they…… it alll adds up.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:28:30pm

re: #147 ggt

Yes, always very nouveau riche.

(otherwise known as “tacky”)

Eh? I don’t get that vibe from Walter at all.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:29:12pm

re: #153 Ojoe

Jesus was probably short dark & hairy.

Image: arabic-jesus.jpg

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:29:26pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Eh? I don’t get that vibe from Walter at all.

The Donald —teehee

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:29:29pm

re: #147 ggt

Yes, always very nouveau riche.

(otherwise known as “tacky”)

Yes, maybe, but SJ is not like that.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:29:41pm

re: #154 The Yankee

You got a better better theory? I mean it all makes sense if you think about it, weed is legal, for medical purposes, in NJ he has a casinos there and old people go to casino… and old people are sick and most of the Tea party is sick old people…and he doesn’t want the republicans to win cause they… it alll adds up.

Trump thinks everything is a game.

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Petero1818 Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:30:13pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

He has hired Dwayne “Dog” Chapman, to find the Doctor who delivered him. Dog, his wife, and his 13 kids are on the case. If Dog can’t find him, he most certainly does not exist, and POTUS must be a con artist./

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FemNaziBitch Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:30:17pm

Catchya’ll later.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:30:21pm

re: #156 Varek Raith

Image: arabic-jesus.jpg

Verbotten.

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Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:31:22pm

re: #160 Petero1818

He has hired Dwayne “Dog” Chapman, to find the Doctor who delivered him. Dog, his wife, and his 13 kids are on the case. If Dog can’t find him, he most certainly does not exist, and POTUS must be a con artist./

Wait. The Doctor delivered Obama? That explains *everything*.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:31:30pm

re: #159 b_sharp

Very true, and he thinks bankruptcy for a company is an OK chip to play.
It might be, but not for a man who seeks the Presidency of the USA.

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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:32:25pm

re: #163 Simply Sarah

Wait. The Doctor delivered Obama? That explains *everything*.

Obama is a Timelord! This totally invalidates his presidency!

///

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:32:50pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Great game. I wish I could buy Civ 5, but money’s too tight (I’d need a new PC).

Don’t bother. It’s a horrible mess both technically and in terms of gameplay.

If you have a top-of-the-line PC and have never played any of the Civilization games before, then you might like it. Otherwise, it’s a really sad Fisher-Price version of the other Civ games.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:32:54pm

re: #165 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Obama is a Timelord! This totally invalidates his presidency!

///

Feel free to stop him.
I’ll be getting popcorn.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:33:02pm

re: #159 b_sharp

Trump thinks everything is a game.

Now that is a good theory too, but there is a few problems with this. Old people hate games and this theory doesn’t mention weed. And finally he has to realize that if he some how wins the nomination there is no way that he is going to win the presidency which would mean that Obama would win and higher taxes for all.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:33:13pm

re: #160 Petero1818

Is the ‘Dog’ bit a joke? It’s sad that someone has to ask.

170

Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:33:31pm

re: #85 reine.de.tout

OMG.
I didn’t believe you, so I watched the video.
And yes, yes they did.
My jaw just dropped to the floor.
Probably shouldn’t have but it did.
argh.

I will be very happy when this era of crazy wingnuts is over. I know I’ve thought this before but I hope we’re seeing the beginning of the end. Too much crazy and even the wingnuts have to be noticing that it’s not working well for them.

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:33:54pm

Scientific guess as to what Jesus might really have looked like.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:34:29pm

re: #160 Petero1818

He has hired Dwayne “Dog” Chapman, to find the Doctor who delivered him. Dog, his wife, and his 13 kids are on the case. If Dog can’t find him, he most certainly does not exist, and POTUS must be a con artist./

The fun part would be when Chapman finds out about whatever designer drug Trump is on instead.

/Kidding, but its more comfortable that the idea that Trump really is that nutty.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:34:37pm

Trump is just a joke.
HE may be taking it seriously, but, I don’t think anyone else is.
He’s just wasting folks time.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:35:18pm

re: #5 Fozzie Bear

I predict he will win the nomination, and the dead animal on his head will be his running mate.

Does the Constitution have anything to say about whether the Vice President can be a symbiote of the President?

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:36:05pm

re: #10 b_sharp

Is it true people have witnessed an image of Jesus in his hair?

I don’t think that’s why nervous types scream “Oh, sweet Jesus!” upon seeing it, no.

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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:36:08pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Does the Constitution have anything to say about whether the Vice President can be a symbiote of the President?

You sure it isn’t just a tribble? I swear I saw it move last time he was on TV.

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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:36:28pm

@RepPaulRyan

House Budget Committee just voted to approve FY12 budget, taking first step on the path to prosperity - [Link: bit.ly…]

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:37:23pm

Another side view of a probable Jesus.

Fascinating, really.

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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:37:27pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

@RepPaulRyan

All Aboard The Fail Boat!

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:37:32pm

re: #26 darthstar

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

Neither Bieber nor Gaga is old enough to run for President.

Neither is Rebecca Black, luckily.

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Bob Dillon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:37:49pm

re: #170 Killgore Trout

Are you making a distinction between “crazy” and “wingnuts” cuz wingnuts and moonbats have always been with us and always will. The net just makes them more visible. Now crazy wingnuts .. you may have something there.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:37:58pm

re: #179 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

All Aboard The Fail Boat!

Image: failboat.jpg

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:38:02pm

re: #171 Ojoe

Scientific guess as to what Jesus might really have looked like.

Seen that reconstructed face somewhere before:

Image: neanderthal+-+Sebastian+Willnow+-+AFP+-+Getty+Images.jpg

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Simply Sarah Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:38:07pm

re: #179 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

All Aboard The Fail Boat!

Do we have to? I’d really rather not…

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Petero1818 Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:38:26pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Is the ‘Dog’ bit a joke? It’s sad that someone has to ask.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:38:46pm

re: #31 Floral Giraffe

But, is it REALLY Donald’s hair?

He paid for it, and he has the receipt, so it’s his.

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:39:12pm

re: #173 Floral Giraffe

Trump is a joke, and makes the Republicans look like a joke, to any extent that “The Donald” is taken seriously as even a possible candidate.

It is to spew, either major party now.

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Petero1818 Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:39:38pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Is the ‘Dog’ bit a joke? It’s sad that someone has to ask.

Yes, Magnum PI was unavailable (and he is a Democrat)/

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:39:47pm

re: #182 Varek Raith

Image: failboat.jpg

Or…
[Link: t2.gstatic.com…]

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:39:52pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

Neither Bieber nor Gaga is old enough to run for President.

Neither is Rebecca Black, luckily.

Bieber would have a two birf certificate problems.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:40:01pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Likely a more accurate depiction.

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thatthatisis Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:40:02pm

Trump said “He got the Nobel Peace Prize, but, you know, I think they’re probably rethinking that one, every time he seizes a country.”

“Every time he seizes a country”?? I can’t remember one, much less plural. Did I oversleep through something?

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:40:09pm

HH, drove past Pendelton, yesterday, waved for you & Jordan!

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:40:37pm

re: #171 Ojoe

Scientific guess as to what Jesus might really have looked like.

Ok I am being serious here. I always wonder if there were “races” of people that have gone extinct before we realize their existence. I mean I know that race is a very subjective thing so saying that some one is a completely different race might be like debating what is up in the universe or what particular shade of blue is the real “blue”.

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:41:19pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

I get “can’t load content try again later” on your link there.

Still, fascinating to see these attempts at a real look at the physical Jesus.

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HoosierHoops Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:42:18pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

HH, drove past Pendelton, yesterday, waved for you & Jordan!

Doesn’t I-5 just suck? There should be a law!
Kind regards Floral

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:42:33pm

re: #61 albusteve

BO could just do the right thing and expose himself before congress…
bada boom

Dear God, isn’t that illegal?

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:43:33pm

re: #194 The Yankee

Except, the DNA keeps a very extensive record of the past & there are those who think, for instance, that you could selectively breed, starting from the modern horse, and get back the eohippus.

I myself am extensively Neanderthal, I just know it.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:43:36pm

re: #170 Killgore Trout

I will be very happy when this era of crazy wingnuts is over. I know I’ve thought this before but I hope we’re seeing the beginning of the end. Too much crazy and even the wingnuts have to be noticing that it’s not working well for them.

The danger I see in all of this? If there is no sane, loyal opposition party, the dems don’t have to do any real work to get moderates and independents to vote for them, nor do they have to be serious about any campaign promises made.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:44:04pm

re: #195 Ojoe

I get “can’t load content try again later” on your link there.

Still, fascinating to see these attempts at a real look at the physical Jesus.

Another try:
( Failed again—here’s the site:)

Image: neanderthal+-+Sebastian+Willnow+-+AFP+-+Getty+Images.jpg

Fail. Top secret Neanderthal.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:45:05pm

re: #196 HoosierHoops

Thinking of going to the Reno Air races.
Not sure.

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Petero1818 Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:45:29pm

re: #171 Ojoe

Scientific guess as to what Jesus might really have looked like.

OMG, He looks like a terrorist//

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:45:31pm

re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist

Dear God, isn’t that illegal?

Pants on, Pants off?
LOL!

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:45:49pm

re: #173 Floral Giraffe

Trump is just a joke.
HE may be taking it seriously, but, I don’t think anyone else is.
He’s just wasting folks time.

Well, The Stalkers seem to be excited about him, and they do qualify as people. I think you should say that sane people don’t take him seriously.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:46:06pm

re: #145 ggt

Why do they always make Jesus so pretty. I’d think anyone living in that part of the world wouldn’t have such creamy-smooth skin by the time they were 30ish.

This version looks a little less darling. Albeit, slightly stoned, but I think that’s because it’s a computer, rather than artist’s, rendition.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:46:30pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Another try:
( Failed again—here’s the site:)

Image: neanderthal+-+Sebastian+Willnow+-& #43;AFP+-+Getty+Images.jpg

Fail. Top secret Neanderthal.

404 (Not Found) error again. And I maintain that that’s likely a more accurate depiction.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:47:16pm

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

Well, The Stalkers seem to be excited about him, and they do qualify as people. I think you should say that sane people don’t take him seriously.

LOL!
Of course, they would get excited about him.
Stupid is, as stupid does.
*waves to LVQ’s fan club*

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:47:35pm

re: #199 Slumbering Behemoth

We really, really need the Modern Whig Party.

Please feel free to join it.

The Modern Whig Party

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:47:50pm

re: #178 Ojoe

Another side view of a probable Jesus.

Fascinating, really.

Not so much. I think that guy was my shul president before he went all hippie-dippie on us.

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BishopX Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:48:22pm

re: #194 The Yankee

All of humanity is descended from seven women. I’m going to guess that there were more than seven human women on the planet at that time. So yes, there were probably other “races” who are long gone.

Also, genocide isn’t new. There were probably quite a few unlucky tribes in the pre-history.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:48:32pm

re: #198 Ojoe

I think that you go by DNA there might be 10x the number of races around now then most people consider. I heard that there are at least 5 different races of black people in Africa. When most americas think that there is just 2 and most africans think there are at least 50 different races. Race isn’t something real in a scientific term.

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Ojoe Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:48:44pm

Good night all.

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freetoken Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:49:24pm

re: #194 The Yankee

Modern anthropology, biological anthropology, is fascinating though I fear that some of the results are feeding the racist frenzy in the xenophobe crowd.

Anyway, it’s become quite clear that the Hominini tribe of primates is quite “bushy”, with very many intermediate forms. Even H. sapiens now has to be redefined in broader terms than once thought.

So yes, with good probability we can affirm that there were “races” that have come and gone in the past couple of hundred thousand years, of which we know nothing.

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Iwouldprefernotto Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:49:43pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

The more Trump opens his mouth the more he sounds like an idiot. But he will not run. He doesn’t want to release his financial records.

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b_sharp Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:50:46pm

Goodknight sweat lizards.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:50:57pm

re: #214 Iwouldprefernotto

The more Trump opens his mouth the more he sounds like an idiot. But he will not run. He doesn’t want to release his financial records.

Maybe Obama can hire someone to track those down.

Maybe Dog can investigate Obama, and Mrs. Dog can investigate Trump, and they can compete on a reality show.

Somewhere, Thomas Jefferson is crying into his beer. (Franklin is just admiring Mrs. Dog’s very nice cleavage.)

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:51:40pm

re: #211 The Yankee

I think that you go by DNA there might be 10x the number of races around now then most people consider. I heard that there are at least 5 different races of black people in Africa. When most americas think that there is just 2 and most africans think there are at least 50 different races. Race isn’t something real in a scientific term.

Trying to get a stable definition gets you into races based on PKU tasting and such—If there is a real concept of ‘race’, it isn’t what most people are talking about.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:52:21pm

re: #215 b_sharp

LOL
Nice typos!
Sleep tight!

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:52:48pm

re: #208 Ojoe

I’m pretty much done with party affiliation. I would have switched to (I) a long time ago but for closed primaries.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:56:53pm

re: #219 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m pretty much done with party affiliation. I would have switched to (I) a long time ago but for closed primaries.

Join the Sith.
We got cookies.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:57:37pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

Join the Sith.
We got cookies.

Yes, but the Jedi have tea and cake.

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:57:47pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

Neither Bieber nor Gaga is old enough to run for President.

Neither is Rebecca Black, luckily.

Also, Bieber is Canadian. He can’t run. Gaga, on the other hand, would have some fabulous clothing for her inaugural. Heh.

Lady Gaga > Trump. Hell, I’d vote for Paris Hilton before I’d vote Trump.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:58:08pm

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but the Jedi have tea and cake.

Not for long.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:58:11pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Trying to get a stable definition gets you into races based on PKU tasting and such—If there is a real concept of ‘race’, it isn’t what most people are talking about.

Exactly, and Oriental people are the one group that don’t seem to embrace there race as much as others. I am not sure if this is just a black or Latino thing but I often find myself cheering for the African countries when the USA or Ireland has no chance of winning a Olympic event (I am black by the way).

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:58:48pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

Even seen a gorgeous sith? Didn’t think so. I’ll pass, thanks.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:59:23pm

re: #222 Lidane

Also, Bieber is Canadian. He can’t run. Gaga, on the other hand, would have some fabulous clothing for her inaugural. Heh.

Lady Gaga > Trump. Hell, I’d vote for Paris Hilton before I’d vote Trump.

I’d smash my hand with a hammer. Far less painful.
;)

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 7:59:48pm

re: #226 Varek Raith

I’d smash my hand with a hammer. Far less painful.
;)

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:00:18pm

re: #225 Slumbering Behemoth

Even seen a gorgeous sith? Didn’t think so. I’ll pass, thanks.

I guess I’ll withhold the location of the Nightsister witches from you…

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:00:32pm

re: #226 Varek Raith

I’d smash my hand with a hammer. Far less painful.
;)

But not as funny. At least Paris Hilton is self-aware enough to make fun of herself. Trump? Not so much.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:01:18pm

re: #225 Slumbering Behemoth

She’s in my mirror.
///

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freetoken Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:01:34pm

re: #224 The Yankee

Exactly, and Oriental people are the one group that don’t seem to embrace there race as much as others.

Well, that’s stereotypical.

You seem a bit obsessed with race…

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:02pm

re: #222 Lidane

Also, Bieber is Canadian. He can’t run. Gaga, on the other hand, would have some fabulous clothing for her inaugural. Heh.

Lady Gaga > Trump. Hell, I’d vote for Paris Hilton before I’d vote Trump.

That’s hot.

At least the behind the scenes footage would be more interesting. But her boobs end up on display so much we’d have BoobGate scandals constantly.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:28pm

re: #229 Lidane

Paris has the cash, Donald has the leverage.
Different in many ways!

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:37pm

re: #224 The Yankee

Exactly, and Oriental people are the one group that don’t seem to embrace there race as much as others. I am not sure if this is just a black or Latino thing but I often find myself cheering for the African countries when the USA or Ireland has no chance of winning a Olympic event (I am black by the way).

Heh—In the 1950’s, anthropologists were wandering the bush with photometers, getting records of skin reflectance of their ‘people’.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:39pm

re: #228 Varek Raith

I guess I’ll withhold the location of the Nightsister witches from you…

They’re on Dathomir.

/Stay on Target!

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Achilles Tang Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:42pm

re: #26 darthstar

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

According to some they do. They create revenue.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:51pm

The thing is if Trump really runs he is just going to take away votes from Bachman’s base making it easy for a sane person to win. One would think, and maybe that is the plan. I sort of think Palin, Bachman, and Trump are pulling from the same pool of people. As long as Romney and Pawlenty don’t allow them to control the debate.

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:02:54pm

re: #153 Ojoe

Jesus was probably short dark & hairy.

Pfft. Everyone knows that Jesus is a clean-cut white guy in a three-piece Armani suit with a Ferrari, a trophy wife, and a killer investment portfolio.

Short, dark and hairy? That would make him look like a poor person, and everyone knows Jesus hated the poor. He’s all about prosperity, don’tcha know.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:03:52pm

re: #238 Lidane

LOL!
And, He lives in Newport Beach!

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:04:32pm

re: #238 Lidane

Pfft. Everyone knows that Jesus is a clean-cut white guy in a three-piece Armani suit with a Ferrari, a trophy wife, and a killer investment portfolio.

Short, dark and hairy? That would make him look like a poor person, and everyone knows Jesus hated the poor. He’s all about prosperity, don’tcha know.

Mob guy?
/

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:05:11pm

re: #240 Varek Raith

Mob guy?
/

Republican lobbyist.

///

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Achilles Tang Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:05:44pm

re: #153 Ojoe

Jesus was probably short dark & hairy.

That’s not what I saw in the cheese sandwich on Ebay.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:05:50pm

re: #240 Varek Raith

Mob guy?
/

We like to call them ‘The Disciples’.

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abolitionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:06:46pm

re: #50 Charles

Breaking: The Donald has investigators on the ground in Hawaii - and you won’t believe what they’re discovering about the Impersonator in Chief!

[Link: thepage.time.com…]

DONALD TRUMP:
Let me just say … de-neutered …

LOL

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Achilles Tang Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:07:01pm

re: #243 Decatur Deb

We like to call them ‘The Disciples’.

This is where the word Discipline comes from.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:07:32pm

re: #237 The Yankee

The thing is if Trump really runs he is just going to take away votes from Bachman’s base making it easy for a sane person to win. One would think, and maybe that is the plan. I sort of think Palin, Bachman, and Trump are pulling from the same pool of people. As long as Romney and Pawlenty don’t allow them to control the debate.

That’s the tricky part. Trump has so much money he might be able to set the debate purely by a massive ad campaign.

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The Yankee Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:07:51pm

re: #231 freetoken

Well, that’s stereotypical.

You seem a bit obsessed with race…

No not obsessed it is more so that I always thought race was real, almost like breeds of dogs, I have only recently realize how little substance it is to it scientifically. And how racially integrated the world was even before the 1800’s. (And aslo that Darwin was not a racist a fact that impresses me for a man of that time.)

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:08:24pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That’s the tricky part. Trump has so much money he might be able to set the debate purely by a massive ad campaign.

Ross Perot, Version 2.0

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:08:27pm

re: #240 Varek Raith

Mob guy?
/

Clearly.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:09:46pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That’s the tricky part. Trump has so much money he might be able to set the debate purely by a massive ad campaign.

He’s still going to loose.
I have faith in the American voters intelligence.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:09:54pm

re: #245 Naso Tang

This is where the word Discipline comes from.

Christ’s Disciples MC:

Image: bikers_6_clubs.jpg

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:10:57pm

Off topic, but I needed to vent about stuff today, if that is okay with everyone. Is it?

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:12:13pm

re: #252 ProLifeLiberal

Over 100 posts off topic is considered acceptable.
Except when you’re begging.

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:12:47pm

Heh:

Heritage: Our Wildly Optimistic Budget Analysis May Be a Tad Off

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Achilles Tang Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:13:02pm

re: #224 The Yankee

Exactly, and Oriental people are the one group that don’t seem to embrace there race as much as others. I am not sure if this is just a black or Latino thing but I often find myself cheering for the African countries when the USA or Ireland has no chance of winning a Olympic event (I am black by the way).

The issue is not race. I am blond, (well, somewhat grey) blue eyed and my genes originate in Africa some 100,000 years ago. Now, if you want to discuss culture we may have some things to agree or disagree about.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:13:04pm

re: #247 The Yankee

No not obsessed it is more so that I always thought race was real, almost like breeds of dogs, I have only recently realize how little substance it is to it scientifically. And how racially integrated the world was even before the 1800’s. (And aslo that Darwin was not a racist a fact that impresses me for a man of that time.)

Any workable definition requires isolated populations. Sailing ship, paved roads, 747=no real races.

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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:13:09pm

re: #254 Lidane

Heh:

Heritage: Our Wildly Optimistic Budget Analysis May Be a Tad Off

Lol.
And I’m the Head of Cabbage.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:13:19pm

re: #250 Floral Giraffe

He’s still going to loose.
I have faith in the American voters intelligence.

So do I. But that doesn’t mean that Trump can’t do a heck of a lot of damage before he goes down swinging.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:13:54pm

re: #252 ProLifeLiberal

No. We are meant to stuff our feelings, shove them deep down inside. You’ll know you’re doing it right when you get and ulcer.

/just kidding, vent away

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:15:28pm

re: #253 Floral Giraffe

Sorry. I’ve had a really bad day. Grandfather decided to do a yell at me for five minutes about various things, some of which were marginally racist in character.

And earlier that day, I got into an argument with a Wahabi at my campus who is in MSA. He said I was ignorant of Saudi Arabia and how great they are. This made me angy because I know a few Shia exchange students here whose families are miserable over there.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:20:09pm

re: #260 ProLifeLiberal

He said I was ignorant of Saudi Arabia and how great they are.

Clearly, he’s not a female living in the Kingdom.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:23:52pm

re: #260 ProLifeLiberal

Vent away, I was torturing or teasing you.
I don’t listen well , but do respond well.
Speaking for myself.
*whacre: #237 The Yankee

k*He may or may not run. Either way, he’s a joke.

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:23:54pm

DONALD TRUMP:
I think the thing that he did best of all, is get elected. Get elected. He ran an unbelievable campaign although, in the end, Hillary was beating him in every state. It was pretty— I mean, by the end, I think people were maybe getting wise. And, you have to understand, I want Obama to do well. I don’t dislike him. I never met him….
If I had my choice of having Obama do great as a president, and do a really great job for this country, and not running, as opposed to running - I’d prefer that he did a great job. I love this country. But, this country is going to hell.

“…and I think I can make some money offa that…”

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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:24:39pm

The Muslim-baiting radio host the GOP can’t resist

The host of a radio show that has become a regular stop for Republican presidential candidates is calling for restrictions on Muslim immigration to the U.S.

Bryan Fischer, who is the American Family Association’s Director of Issues Analysis, also called Islam a “toxic cancer” on his show today. This is not new rhetoric for Fischer, but what makes it interesting is that several potential GOP candidates have recently accepted invitiations to be on his show. That includes Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann, Haley Barbour, and Newt Gingrich.
…
If Fischer were another anonymous crank, this wouldn’t be newsworthy. But this is a man who regularly attracts presidential candidates to his program. Here he is interviewing Haley Barbour. Here he is interviewing Tim Pawlenty. And here he is interviewing Newt Gingrich.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:30:01pm

re: #263 jaunte

And, you have to understand, I want Obama to do well.

Well, at least that’s one better than Rush Limbaugh.

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:31:35pm

re: #265 Slumbering Behemoth

“I like thinking big. If you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.”
—- Donald Trump

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:33:11pm

“Love him or hate him, Trump is a man who is certain about what he wants and sets out to get it, no holds barred. Women find his power almost as much of a turn-on as his money. All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me - consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”
— Donald Trump

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:33:53pm

re: #267 jaunte

BARF.
SOME women find his ways revolting.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:35:01pm

re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth

That too. He was insisting that Wahhabism has improved Islam. I say, it’s a cancer that must be destroyed. The Ottomans thought the same and damn near succeeded. I’m Sunni, but their treatment of Shia deserves prejudice. And their treatment of Sufis and Non-Muslims is worse.

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:35:13pm

re: #268 Floral Giraffe

Trump is a revolutionary of love.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:35:48pm

re: #267 jaunte

Bit of an ego he has, doesn’t he? What a clown.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:36:40pm

re: #266 jaunte

“I like thinking big. If you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.”
—- Donald Trump

I have to agree. Think Big.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:37:27pm

re: #270 jaunte

The bankruptcy of what he’s changed his mind on?
Or, his financiers have changed their minds on?
YUCK.
re: #272 Slumbering Behemoth

Biggus dickuss.

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:37:59pm

re: #271 ProLifeLiberal

Bit of an ego he has, doesn’t he? What a clown.

Some kind of ego is needed to run for POTUS. It’s part of the job, since you have to believe that you’re the one person who knows better than 300 million others how to run the country.

Trump’s just a clown. Unfortunately, he’s a rich clown who can make the rest of us suffer his idiocy until he gets bored and decides that politics is beneath him.

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CarleeCork Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:38:52pm

re: #272 Slumbering Behemoth

I have to agree. Think Big.

When I think of Trump I think big hair and big ego.

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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:39:49pm

‘Nite, all.

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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:39:56pm

If you mess with Trump, there will be hell toupee.

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Stanley Sea Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:40:03pm

re: #270 jaunte

Trump is a revolutionary of love.

Double barf

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:40:18pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL!
Nicely punned!

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:40:27pm

re: #275 CarleeCork

When I think of Trump I think big hair and big ego.

I think of bad hair, gaudy taste in interior design, and a grating voice. He’s made for reality TV and not much else.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:41:06pm

I found this excerpt from a site talking about the Ottoman-Saudi War and the Sack of Karbala. It’s telling. Pay attention to the bold.

In the same pamphlet mentioned earlier Abdullah states, “We do not command the destruction of any writings except such as tend to cast people into infidelity to injure their faith, such as those on logic, which have been prohibited by all divines.” The Wahhabis then deemed which books and writings would be allowed. The fact that they particularly mentioned books on logic is important to point out. Their specific banning of these types of books shows that they feared their doctrines would not be able to compete with them and would therefore pose a threat. Only works that complemented their own were allowed, even books by famous Muslim scholars like Abu Ali Sina, and Ibn Araby were banned.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:41:11pm

re: #263 jaunte

“…and I think I can make some money offa that…”

Well, that is how developers (or at least the worst kind of developer) make money. Send an area into hell, then buy it up. An example:

Bushwick’s decline began in the mid-1960s, as impoverished Southern blacks and Puerto Rican immigrants surged into northern urban areas, including central Brooklyn. As race riots ripped apart other cities, including Detroit and Newark, unscrupulous real-estate agents and speculators tried to frighten white Bushwick residents—a practice known as “blockbusting.” Homeowners would find ominous messages in their mailboxes—“Don’t wait until it’s too late!”—as well as encouraging ones: “Houses wanted, cash waiting.” In a massive scandal reminiscent of today’s subprime-mortgage meltdown, speculators bought homes from Bushwick residents for an average of $8,000 apiece, and then, using fraudulent appraisals and a Great Society federal mortgage program that insured home loans to low-income buyers, sold them to poor blacks and Puerto Ricans at prices that they couldn’t afford— on average, about $20,000 per home. Many defaulted, abandoning their homes and massively depressing local property values. By 1972, in one city estimate, some 500 Bushwick buildings stood empty because of the bad loans; others, not part of the federal program, also emptied as housing prices plummeted and buyers balked at investing in the neighborhood.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:41:21pm

Pander baby, pander!

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:41:38pm

re: #280 Lidane

Don’t forget bankrupting a Casino!
Not a good business model!

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:42:53pm

re: #274 Lidane

Trump’s just a clown. Unfortunately, he’s a rich clown who can make the rest of us suffer his idiocy until he gets bored and decides that politics is beneath him.

I suspect he’s already there. I think this is all just a bunch of theatrics designed to generate ratings for his tv show.

When the rubber meets the road, he either won’t run, or he’ll drop out of the running once he’s milked this particular side-show for all the publicity he can.

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Stanley Sea Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:43:04pm

re: #269 ProLifeLiberal

That too. He was insisting that Wahhabism has improved Islam. I say, it’s a cancer that must be destroyed. The Ottomans thought the same and damn near succeeded. I’m Sunni, but their treatment of Shia deserves prejudice. And their treatment of Sufis and Non-Muslims is worse.

CuriousLurker CuriousLurker

Someone explain to ProLifeLiberal that arguing with a wahhabi is about as productive as arguing with Buck. @Hr_Delta Lurking #LGF

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laZardo Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:43:06pm

re: #281 ProLifeLiberal

Religion is anti-logic.

/BRACE FOR IMPACT

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:43:26pm

re: #269 ProLifeLiberal

That too. He was insisting that Wahhabism has improved Islam. I say, it’s a cancer that must be destroyed. The Ottomans thought the same and damn near succeeded. I’m Sunni, but their treatment of Shia deserves prejudice. And their treatment of Sufis and Non-Muslims is worse.

Quite Concur.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:43:55pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

Or, his rug, will run off & hide!

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:44:32pm

re: #287 laZardo

Religion is anti-logic.

/BRACE FOR IMPACT

Here’s your impact:

GAZE

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:45:01pm

re: #284 Floral Giraffe

Don’t forget bankrupting a Casino!
Not a good business model!

That’s what kills me. How the fuck do you bankrupt a casino? I don’t get it.

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funky chicken Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:46:25pm

re: #49 recusancy

Poll: Gingrich Trails Obama In His Own Home State Of Georgia

The more you know about Newt the less you like him, IMHO.

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lostlakehiker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:46:31pm

Trump isn’t going to win the nomination. All it’s working for is gaining notoriety. But then, that’s what Trump does.

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:47:12pm

re: #291 Lidane

That’s what kills me. How the fuck do you bankrupt a casino? I don’t get it.

How Does Trump repeatedly file for Bankruptcy and still stay on top?

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prairiefire Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:48:27pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If you mess with Trump, there will be hell toupee.

Ha!
Have you been saving that one?

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:48:30pm

It’s one thing to value experience in business for a candidate. It’s another to be like Donald and be a flop in business.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:49:50pm

re: #284 Floral Giraffe

I suspect that may have been done on purpose, perhaps for tax reasons. I mean, he’s a cretin, but he’s not a total idiot.

Who knows? Just speculating.

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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:50:41pm

re: #295 prairiefire

Ha!
Have you been saving that one?

Nah, off the cuff.

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:50:44pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

It’s one thing to value experience in business for a candidate. It’s another to be like Donald and be a flop in business.

Repeatedly. His casino operations have filed for bankruptcy three times. WTF?

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:51:19pm

tweet:

ebertchicago Roger Ebert
Mathematician masters Knot Theory, begins study of Donald Trump’s hair.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:51:54pm

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

To give an idea how brutal the Ottoman’s were to the Wahahabs, when they got the capitol of the First Saudi State, after defeating the Sauds, the completely burned the city to the ground. I read somewhere else that the Ottoman then proceeded to salt the ruins. Like Carthage.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:53:04pm

re: #294 jaunte

Heh, or that.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:53:13pm

re: #300 jaunte

tweet:

He’s always had a good turn of phrase, and Trump richly deserves the smackdown. Interestingly, Trump Tower in Chicago is built on the site of the old Chicago Sun-Times building (The paper Roger Ebert works for).

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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:53:19pm

Soros makes money, never declares bankruptcy = PURE EVIL!

Trump declares bankruptcy twice, screws his investors = HERO!

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:53:49pm

re: #301 ProLifeLiberal

To give an idea how brutal the Ottoman’s were to the Wahahabs, when they got the capitol of the First Saudi State, after defeating the Sauds, the completely burned the city to the ground. I read somewhere else that the Ottoman then proceeded to salt the ruins. Like Carthage.

Wahhabism is a contagion.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:54:44pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If you mess with Trump, there will be hell toupee.

Rotating title nomination!
At least through the 2012 elections!

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:55:15pm

re: #287 laZardo

In the future, perhaps try something more vague like “Belief in the paranormal is anti-logic”.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:55:37pm

re: #264 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Muslim-baiting radio host the GOP can’t resist

It’s really hard for me not to Godwin all over the place when I hear this crap.

These people sound like Nazis.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:56:33pm

re: #299 Lidane

Repeatedly. His casino operations have filed for bankruptcy three times. WTF?

He’s more known for being a celebrity than his actual business successes really. Really if the guy wasn’t an obnoxious douchebag with the worst combover ever he’d be just another failed businessman.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:57:24pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

CuriousLurker CuriousLurker

Someone explain to ProLifeLiberal that arguing with a wahhabi is about as productive as arguing with Buck. @Hr_Delta Lurking #LGF

He can’t help it. He’s young and idealistic.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:58:07pm

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s really hard for me not to Godwin all over the place when I hear this crap.

These people sound like Nazis.

They really do. It sounds like the worst of propaganda in history that was directed at certain groups. It’s frustrating and down right angering as a student of history to see it repeating itself in the worst of ways.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:58:21pm

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

That’s putting it mildly. Look at the massive damage it has done to the Muslim World. The worse thing to happen to them since the Mongols.

It’s very sad the Ottoman Empire at the end was hijacked by Ultra-Nationalism, which in turn caused the Anatolian Genocides (It wasn’t just Armenians. The Assyrians and Pontic Greeks were slaughtered too). That was a precursor to the Holocaust in a way. The West should have seen the warning rhetoric from Germany, just based on what happened less than 30 years earlier at that point.

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:58:36pm

re: #301 ProLifeLiberal

To give an idea how brutal the Ottoman’s were to the Wahahabs, when they got the capitol of the First Saudi State, after defeating the Sauds, the completely burned the city to the ground. I read somewhere else that the Ottoman then proceeded to salt the ruins. Like Carthage.

The Ottomans were a ruthless bunch. Lot of good, lot of bad stuff back there.

(I tend to be a bit soft on them since they provided a haven for Sephardi Jews after the Expulsion.)

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prairiefire Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:59:31pm

re: #298 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nah, off the cuff.

Tip ‘o me hat.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 8:59:49pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

CuriousLurker CuriousLurker

Someone explain to ProLifeLiberal that arguing with a wahhabi is about as productive as arguing with Buck. @Hr_Delta Lurking #LGF

However, Buck isn’t inclined towards violence and tyranny, and far too many Wahhabis are (even though they may not think of themselves as doing that).

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:01:45pm

re: #312 ProLifeLiberal

That’s putting it mildly. Look at the massive damage it has done to the Muslim World. The worse thing to happen to them since the Mongols.

It’s very sad the Ottoman Empire at the end was hijacked by Ultra-Nationalism, which in turn caused the Anatolian Genocides (It wasn’t just Armenians. The Assyrians and Pontic Greeks were slaughtered too). That was a precursor to the Holocaust in a way. The West should have seen the warning rhetoric from Germany, just based on what happened less than 30 years earlier at that point.

The problem is that few saw any parallels between Germany and Turkey. They likely didn’t even know what had been said in Turkey, given the laguage and cultural barriers.

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:02:59pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

Buck, is one, who I have complimented on remaining civil, a couple of times. I completely disagree with him, but at least he remains polite. Gotta give him credit for that. Obdicutt, too!

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:04:34pm

re: #313 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, soft on them here too. Also for being the first to see the Wahhabis and took them on.

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

I see how what you brought up could have been an issue at the time. It seems very clear now though.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:04:36pm

The thing I find interesting is that nationalism is a relatively new concept in history. The modern Italian, German, Austrian, and other states while they’ve obviously had governments longer than we have in the US are technically younger states than the US. The thing I’ve been finding more difficult in history lately is the concept of nuance. When I was younger and much more idealist, I used to think in terms of “good guys” and “bad guys” but now I see good guys who did some not good things and bad guys who did some good things and a whole world in between. I think that’s the greatest challenge of history.

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Robert O. Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:06:01pm

I don’t know… Has anyone seen hair like Donald Trump’s before? I haven’t. He certainly does NOT look like me. He does NOT look like anyone in my family or in my neighborhood. He is definitely an outsider. How do we know he was born in the US? How do we know he was not implanted by an (extraterrestrial) alien culture to destroy America and the world?

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:08:21pm

re: #319 HappyWarrior

To go off track on that point, there was good cracked article on that.

6 Enlightened Ideas Brought to You by Evil Empires

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:08:26pm

re: #320 Robert O.

I believe he was born here. The comb-over is from another planet.

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:08:50pm

re: #320 Robert O.

I don’t know… Has anyone seen hair like Donald Trump’s before? I haven’t. He certainly does NOT look like me. He does NOT look like anyone in my family or in my neighborhood. He is definitely an outsider. How do we know he was born in the US? How do we know he was not implanted by an (extraterrestrial) alien culture to destroy America and the world?

/

If I recall in Men In Black, he was shown to be one of the aliens. Haven’t seen that film in a long time though.

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engineer cat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:09:52pm

re: #319 HappyWarrior

it’s true that it is commonly taught that nationalism is a relatively new concept, but this is looking at things from the perspective of the past thousand years or so - in the dark ages and especially the middle ages and renaissance, european nations were more the possession of royal and noble families than nation states with a national identity the way we think of them today

but if you look back over the roughly three thousand years, lets say, of recorded history, you can see that there were peoples in classical and ancient times that had conceptions of themselves as an nation-like entity, with all the accompanying good and bad results of that, just like we have today

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Amory Blaine Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:11:59pm

re: #322 jaunte

I believe he was born here. The comb-over is from another planet.

It’s a tribble.

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lostlakehiker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:13:12pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

Any workable definition requires isolated populations. Sailing ship, paved roads, 747=no real races.

But human generations last 25-30 years. So the populations need not be isolated NOW. What’s more, there are still any number of effectively isolated populations. Andaman islands, Japan, etc.

The U.S. is a mixing pot. Those we call “black” here do not look at all like the people of the West African nations from which slaves were taken. But there are remote populations scattered across the globe which have until quite recently been very isolated. Even now, they’re close to isolated. Tibet, say.

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:13:47pm

re: #318 ProLifeLiberal

Yeah, soft on them here too. Also for being the first to see the Wahhabis and took them on.

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

I see how what you brought up could have been an issue at the time. It seems very clear now though.

It is clear, now. But even today, other Wester coutries are far more likely to understand the goings on in Germany than in Turkey. Proximity, trade links and population intermixing have always meant a fairly constant interchange within the West. But Turkey is unlike the west culturally and few Westerners speak Turkish (Non-German Westerners are still more likely to speak German than Turkish).

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:14:24pm

re: #321 ProLifeLiberal

To go off track on that point, there was good cracked article on that.

6 Enlightened Ideas Brought to You by Evil Empires

I recall reading on cracked another time that the USSR under Stalin was one of the first nations to ban lobotomies. I read this when it came out too. It’s interesting stuff. I have to say while in the past and still do to a large degree decry the isolationism in the years leading up to WWII, I have come to see why many were desperate to avoid war with Nazi Germany. I am not suggesting they were right but I understand where they’re coming from. One thing my Chinese history professor has stresed strongly in the two semesters I’ve taken his class is that we need to understand people’s motivations which is different than agreeing with them of course.

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Lidane Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:14:39pm

re: #325 Amory Blaine

It’s a tribble.

Can’t be. Tribbles are cute. Trump’s hair? Not so much.

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engineer cat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:17:15pm

oh no! oh no!

not the vacuum cleaners again!!!

haaalp!!!!

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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:17:51pm

re: #329 Lidane

Trumps hair looks like it ought to be a hockey puck.
Whacked around some more!

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lostlakehiker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:18:29pm

re: #312 ProLifeLiberal

That’s putting it mildly. Look at the massive damage it has done to the Muslim World. The worse thing to happen to them since the Mongols.

It’s very sad the Ottoman Empire at the end was hijacked by Ultra-Nationalism, which in turn caused the Anatolian Genocides (It wasn’t just Armenians. The Assyrians and Pontic Greeks were slaughtered too). That was a precursor to the Holocaust in a way. The West should have seen the warning rhetoric from Germany, just based on what happened less than 30 years earlier at that point.

Hitler is on record as having remarked, when somebody fretted at the effect on world opinion of what he was doing to the Jews—-

“who remembers the Armenians?”

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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:19:51pm

K for Kitteh
Image: FK8dy.jpg

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jaunte Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:20:28pm

re: #333 Killgore Trout

Nice mustache!

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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:21:36pm

re: #320 Robert O.

I don’t know… Has anyone seen hair like Donald Trump’s before? I haven’t. He certainly does NOT look like me. He does NOT look like anyone in my family or in my neighborhood. He is definitely an outsider. How do we know he was born in the US? How do we know he was not implanted by an (extraterrestrial) alien culture to destroy America and the world?

/

I have to say, one thing I can say for Barack Obama is that he has very normal-looking hair. I have no concerns about it, or what personal agenda it might have.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:21:53pm

re: #333 Killgore Trout

Salvador Kitteh?

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CuriousLurker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:22:17pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

However, Buck isn’t inclined towards violence and tyranny, and far too many Wahhabis are (even though they may not think of themselves as doing that).

No, he isnt and I never claimed he was, however there’s the same sort of unyielding, partisan mindset to their arguments. I argued with countless wahhabis during my first few years of being Muslim because I came into Islam thru the “sufi door” so to speak, and the stuff they spewed was unrecognizable as Islam to me.

I eventually learned how to deal with them and give them agita instead of getting it myself, but it took several years for me to figure out how to do that. IOW, I know what I’m talking about when I give PLL advice because I know exactly what he’s dealing with. Been there, done that, moved on.

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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:22:20pm

re: #334 jaunte

Nice mustache!

Salvador da Kitteh!

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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:22:37pm

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth

Salvador Kitteh?

Heh, beat me to that one.

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:22:44pm

re: #332 lostlakehiker

What year did he say that? Before or during the war. That would make the comparison and warnings obvious at that time.

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engineer cat Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:22:57pm

with hair like that, who needs enemies?

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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:23:27pm

re: #337 CuriousLurker

I guess I came in through the Maliki door.

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CuriousLurker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:27:24pm

re: #342 ProLifeLiberal

I guess I came in through the Maliki door.

I didn’t figure out the fiqh part till much later (long story there), but I eventually settled on Hanafi for everyday matters. The Sufis will always have my heart though. ;o)

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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:30:26pm

Goodnight, all.

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CuriousLurker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:30:57pm

G’nite, Dark. Sleep well.

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CuriousLurker Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:35:36pm

I’m outta here. *poof*

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boxhead Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:39:20pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If you mess with Trump, there will be hell toupee.

OH MY! lol

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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:39:46pm

Night people.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:45:22pm

re: #244 abolitionist

DONALD TRUMP:
Let me just say … de-neutered …

LOL

Neuter, de-neuter, whatever. Why should he know what has to be done to hire Dog? That’s what apprentices are for.

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abolitionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:29:11pm

re: #340 ProLifeLiberal

What year did he say that? Before or during the war. That would make the comparison and warnings obvious at that time.

Aug 1939, apparently. Caveat: This site seems to be aligned with the long-standing Turkish position on the subject, ie, denialist:

“I have issued the command — I’ll have anybody who utters one word of criticism executed by a firing squad — that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formations in readiness — for the present only in the East — with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”
This quotation was supposed to have come from a harangue Hitler gave his generals just prior to the invasion of Poland in August 1939. Hitler ordered that no notes were to be taken at this meetings so all reports or “quotations” are merely jottings made afterwards from memory or surreptitious notes taken at the time.

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abolitionist Wed, Apr 6, 2011 11:46:23pm

On browsing the site further, denialist seems to be inaccurate. It’s more like turnspeak.

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leftynyc Thu, Apr 7, 2011 7:48:07am

re: #26 darthstar

Trump isn’t running. I wish people would stop paying so much attention to attention whores. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga…they’re all the same. Trying to make a buck off of our base obsession with train wrecks and/or infatuation with “star power”…Excepting Bieber and Gaga, these people contribute nothing to society.

I thought the same until last week. This man’s ego is so out of control he thinks he’s the only one who can save us. In his brain, we’re in so much trouble that as a patriot, he may just have to step in and save us. I wish I were kidding.

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avanti Thu, Apr 7, 2011 9:55:28am

Trump’s foreign policy is from the 18th century, only go to war to plunder the weaker guys resources. He was just on CNN saying we have no business in Libya unless “we get their oil”When pressed about countries without oil like some African nations, he said “oil, diamonds, whatever” He than went on to make the point that was old way, when wars were won, we got the stuff.

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changomo Thu, Apr 7, 2011 12:19:04pm

absolutely shameful - as a conservative, I am embarrassed by Trump and his supporters.

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