For today’s moment of Dada, here’s Charlie Crist with an abject apology to David Byrne (of the Talking Heads).
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:42:29pm |
thief!....he doesn't condone it now that he has a hand in the cookie jar...before that he was asleep, unfactual that is
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recusancy Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:45:03pm |
Trump is getting seriously racial now. Bill's still pretty funny.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:46:00pm |
re: #2 recusancy
Trump is getting seriously racial now. Bill's still pretty funny.
Going after Bill Cosby, that's gotta be murder on your pool numbers....
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Gus Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:50:02pm |
re: #3 jamesfirecat
Going after Bill Cosby, that's gotta be murder on your pool numbers...
Let's see. Donald Trump is white. Bill Cosby is black. Net result? Tea Party gains.
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:51:34pm |
re: #3 jamesfirecat
Going after Bill Cosby, that's gotta be murder on your pool numbers...
only a fool would diss Coz....he's a national treasure
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:51:51pm |
No one can get under a man's skin like a true comedian.
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engineer cat Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:52:37pm |
Trump on Cosby: ‘Hatred was pouring out of his eyes’
i knew that someday a p.t. barnum would come along to use all the talking points that the gop machine has been developing to manipulate wingnut suckers like they have never been manipulated before
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gdalpert Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:56:11pm |
I swear, I saw him blinking s-o-s in Morse code.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:59:24pm |
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darthstar Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:59:35pm |
re: #2 recusancy
Trump is getting seriously racial now. Bill's still pretty funny.
Okay...would "obviously an Obama supporter" be an indication that Bill Cosby might just be black? Eh, Donald?
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:01:43pm |
re: #12 darthstar
Okay...would "obviously an Obama supporter" be an indication that Bill Cosby might just be black? Eh, Donald?
political preference based on color?....will it never end?
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darthstar Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:02:52pm |
re: #4 Gus 802
Let's see. Donald Trump is white. Bill Cosby is black. Net result? Tea Party gains.
Trump isn't white. He's fuckin' Gardenia. (can you tell we've been looking at paint colors?)
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:03:05pm |
but then I was accused of being racist because I was interested in BOs college life
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darthstar Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:03:59pm |
re: #13 albusteve
political preference based on color?...will it never end?
It's only started. This is our first black president. Wait until we get a president with a six or seven syllable last name.
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:04:10pm |
re: #14 darthstar
Trump isn't white. He's fuckin' Gardenia. (can you tell we've been looking at paint colors?)
and BO isn't black, he's in between....so?
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Kragar Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:04:20pm |
San Diego: 'The Wisconsin of the West'
"Are you ready to make San Diego the Wisconsin of the West?" City Councilman Carl DeMaio asked a crowd Monday evening at a local Republican Party event, according to an account on conservative website SDRostra.Com.
DeMaio's comments, of course, referred to the recent protracted battle over collective bargaining rights for public employees in Wisconsin. America's Dairyland became the center of the ideological fight between conservatives and liberals over public employee unions.
That the local debate over public sector 401(k)s would turn toward larger ideology also could explain why boosters here keep calling their proposed June 2012 ballot measure a "national model" for pension reform.
Keep this idea in mind as the campaign moves forward: How much of the ballot measure is about cost savings and shifting investment risk and how much is about trying to brand San Diego with a national reputation for busting public employees? Certainly, that's a different status than being known as Enron By The Sea because of your shoddy finances.
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:05:56pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:12:22pm |
re: #15 albusteve
but then I was accused of being racist because I was interested in BOs college life
My brother posted a photo on Facebook with two dorm mates of his at Occidental, and Obama is in the photo. Does that help?
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SpaceJesus Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:13:15pm |
freep thread on the 150th anniversary of the start of the civil war aka the great conservative redneck stompfest
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
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recusancy Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:19:54pm |
re: #20 wrenchwench
My brother posted a photo on Facebook with two dorm mates of his at Occidental, and Obama is in the photo. Does that help?
Nope. He's the most mysterious president ever!
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engineer cat Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:20:29pm |
re: #21 SpaceJesus
freep thread on the 150th anniversary of the start of the civil war aka the great conservative redneck stompfest
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
this freeper thread exposes the contradiction between american exceptionalism, which embraces imperialism, and distrust of the federal government
p.s., i consider it the patriotic duty of an american citizen to distrust the government. too bad the wingnuts only remember this during democratic administrations...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:21:17pm |
I saw the clip in question. "Hatred pouring out of his eyes?"
No, I saw a dismissal. The only thing his eyes were doing was rolling back in his head.
(You roll those eyes at me, I'll roll your little head on the floor...)
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blueraven Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:24:25pm |
re: #20 wrenchwench
My brother posted a photo on Facebook with two dorm mates of his at Occidental, and Obama is in the photo. Does that help?
Remember all those photos of him when he was a freshman at Occidental that surfaced just before the election in 08?
[Link: www.time.com...]
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:25:25pm |
Politics aside, I wonder why Crist is just now apologizing for this. And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
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recusancy Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:26:20pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Politics aside, I wonder why Crist is just now apologizing for this. And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
He's just now apologizing because it was part of the court settlement. He had to.
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:26:34pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
Until there are real consequences?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:27:22pm |
re: #27 recusancy
He's just now apologizing because it was part of the court settlement. He had to.
Ah ok, didn't even know he had done this honestly.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:27:56pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Politics aside, I wonder why Crist is just now apologizing for this. And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
It's a big problem for Republicans. They can only get country music acts to agree to let them use music. At the last Republican convention they used some sort of generic muzak between speakers. It was pretty lame.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:28:00pm |
By the way it's funny for Trump a man whom is pandering to hate to accuse Bill Cosby of being a hateful one. Keep at it, Donald!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:28:04pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:28:15pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Politics aside, I wonder why Crist is just now apologizing for this. And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
Settling lawsuit.
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Simply Sarah Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:28:57pm |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
It's a big problem for Republicans. They can only get country music acts to agree to let them use music. At the last Republican convention they used some sort of generic muzak between speakers. It was pretty lame.
Even a lot of country acts don't want them using their music.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:29:18pm |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
It's a big problem for Republicans. They can only get country music acts to agree to let them use music. At the last Republican convention they used some sort of generic muzak between speakers. It was pretty lame.
My dad, a musical junkie if you will and relatively apolitical joked that he liked Democratic candidates better because of their music taste. He took me to Clinton's first inauguration by and large because of the musical headliners.
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Obdicut Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:29:42pm |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
It's a big problem for Republicans. They can only get country music acts to agree to let them use music. At the last Republican convention they used some sort of generic muzak between speakers. It was pretty lame.
And Willie Nelson would shoot himself in the knee before letting them use his stuff.
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:30:50pm |
re: #36 Obdicut
And Willie Nelson would shoot himself in the knee before letting them use his stuff.
He'd change his tune if they would just legalize it...
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blueraven Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:31:29pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Politics aside, I wonder why Crist is just now apologizing for this. And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
As other have mentioned, it is part of a lwasuit settlement.
"Other artists may actually have the anger but not want to take the time and risk the legal bills. I am lucky that I can do that," Byrne tells the Sentinel. "My hope is that by standing up to this practice maybe it can be made to be a less common option, or better yet an option that is never taken in the future." - David Byrne
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:32:16pm |
re: #38 blueraven
As other have mentioned, it is part of a lwasuit settlement.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Ok, thanks. I don't blame him for being frustrated. This seems to happen qutie a bit.
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:34:24pm |
It is funny how these politicians have no respect for copyrighted music and yet expect us to...
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recusancy Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:34:33pm |
Here's a good vid to stir up the pot.
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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:35:37pm |
re: #28 JasonA
Until there are real consequences?
And doesn't Crist understand the "law" in lawmaker?
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Summer Lovin' Torture Party Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:38:42pm |
Wouldn't it have been funny if Crist did the apology while hitting himself up and down his arms a' la "Once In A Lifetime" by the Talking Heads?
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:43:08pm |
re: #44 Kid A
If he had done that I would be donating at this very moment to whatever the hell he's up to now.
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:43:47pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:44:48pm |
re: #35 HappyWarrior
My dad, a musical junkie if you will and relatively apolitical joked that he liked Democratic candidates better because of their music taste. He took me to Clinton's first inauguration by and large because of the musical headliners.
Stevie Wonder did a killer job at an Obama event in Colorado. Amazing performance.
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sagehen Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:45:17pm |
re: #8 albusteve
what's a cubit?
The length from elbow to tip of the longest finger (for a presumably average-size ordinary-proportions man).
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:49:14pm |
Some interesting stats: Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
Thirty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions identify as Protestant and 28% as Catholic.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:52:27pm |
re: #27 recusancy
He's just now apologizing because it was part of the court settlement. He had to.
I wonder if the public shaming as part of the settlement was David Byrne's idea
"AND MAKE THE FUCKER SHOOT A VIDEO OF HIMSELF APOLOGIZING! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!"
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jamesfirecat Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:53:06pm |
re: #49 Killgore Trout
Some interesting stats: Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
Can we have those measured up against what percent of Americans are Protestants and what percent are Catholic so if we see those are higher/lower/just right compared to the size of the population they make up?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:54:53pm |
re: #51 jamesfirecat
Can we have those measured up against what percent of Americans are Protestants and what percent are Catholic so if we see those are higher/lower/just right compared to the size of the population they make up?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Check it out.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:55:45pm |
re: #51 jamesfirecat
Can we have those measured up against what percent of Americans are Protestants and what percent are Catholic so if we see those are higher/lower/just right compared to the size of the population they make up?
US
Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)
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sagehen Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:57:24pm |
re: #47 Killgore Trout
Stevie Wonder did a killer job at an Obama event in Colorado. Amazing performance.
and Beyonce was awesome at the inauguaration ball.
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RadicalModerate Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:59:32pm |
CNN has done a series of stories on today being the 150th anniversary of the United States Civil War, and, unfortunately some of the revelations are not at all encouraging - it appears that there is a willful forgetfulness regarding the reasons of the conflict.
4 ways we're still fighting the Civil War
When asked the reason behind the Civil War, whether it was fought over slavery or states' rights, 52 percent of all Americas said the leaders of the Confederacy seceded to keep slavery legal in their state, but a sizeable 42 percent minority said slavery was not the main reason why those states seceded.
"The results of that question show that there are still racial, political and geographic divisions over the Civil War that still exists a century and a half later," CNN Polling Director Holland Keating said.
When broken down by political party, most Democrats said southern states seceded over slavery, independents were split and most Republicans said slavery was not the main reason that Confederate states left the Union.
Republicans were also most likely to say they admired the leaders of the southern states during the Civil War, with eight in 10 Republicans expressing admiration for the leaders in the South, virtually identical to the 79 percent of Republicans who admired the northern leaders during the Civil War.
The survey polled 824 adults via telephone between April 9 and April 10. The poll had a sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Here's a link to the poll results itself (PDF Format)
[Link: i2.cdn.turner.com...]
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jamesfirecat Tue, Apr 12, 2011 4:59:33pm |
re: #53 Killgore Trout
US
Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)
So 23.9% of Americans are Catholic, and 28% of Americans who get abortions are catholic....
28%>23.9%...
Ruh-Roh! (The statistics would seem to say we aren't very good at being Catholics)
(Granted I wonder how many American Catholics support birth control...)
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:00:08pm |
I would take the religion question on an abortion poll with a big grain of salt. I suppose most people wouldn't really answer that question honestly.
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:00:46pm |
Friendly reminder: HBO, 9:00PM Sunday April 17. Game of Thrones. Set your DVRs. Do it. Do it now!
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Simply Sarah Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:01:08pm |
re: #56 jamesfirecat
So 23.9% of Americans are Catholic, and 28% of Americans who get abortions are catholic...
28%>23.9%...
Ruh-Roh! (The statistics would seem to say we aren't very good at being Catholics)
(Granted I wonder how many American Catholics support birth control...)
American Catholics, like most Western Catholics, tend to on average be far less dogmatic than the official Church positions say they should be.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:02:48pm |
re: #56 jamesfirecat
So 23.9% of Americans are Catholic, and 28% of Americans who get abortions are catholic...
28%>23.9%...
Ruh-Roh! (The statistics would seem to say we aren't very good at being Catholics)
(Granted I wonder how many American Catholics support birth control...)
I think it's that most American Catholics openly ignore the Vatican's positions on birth control and abortion so it's more socially acceptable for the to answer the poll question honestly. I suspect the protestant number on that poll are probably lower than the reality. You'd get a similar result if you polled homosexuals on what religion they are.
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Iwouldprefernotto Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:03:00pm |
Is this the first Republican apology ever? Seems like it.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:03:30pm |
Well done, Crist - but couldn't you have run through it a couple of times before rolling tape?
Nevertheless:
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:04:24pm |
re: #55 RadicalModerate
CNN has done a series of stories on today being the 150th anniversary of the United States Civil War, and, unfortunately some of the revelations are not at all encouraging - it appears that there is a willful forgetfulness regarding the reasons of the conflict.
4 ways we're still fighting the Civil War
Here's a link to the poll results itself (PDF Format)
[Link: i2.cdn.turner.com...]
If they say it was states rights, they're basically admitting it was slavery. Confederate apologists always say the war was fought over states rights. To which it bears repeating, the states right to allow people to own other people. I've said it before, I'm proud to be a Virginian but I am not proud of the Confederacy. When we used to have Lee-Jackson-King day, I was embarassed to see the man who did more than anyone for civil rights celebrated with two men who were traitors. I don't hate Jackson and Lee but they're not heroes.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:06:34pm |
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:06:37pm |
re: #63 HappyWarrior
states rights, slavery, it's all the same...anything else is just an exercise in intellectual blather and hair splitting
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:07:06pm |
re: #63 HappyWarrior
If they say it was states rights, they're basically admitting it was slavery. Confederate apologists always say the war was fought over states rights. To which it bears repeating, the states right to allow people to own other people. I've said it before, I'm proud to be a Virginian but I am not proud of the Confederacy. When we used to have Lee-Jackson-King day, I was embarassed to see the man who did more than anyone for civil rights celebrated with two men who were traitors. I don't hate Jackson and Lee but they're not heroes.
I think you missed the vicious arguments, legislative battles and debates over the right of the South to sell beer and cabbage in the same stores. It was nearly as bad as the battle over what a brewery could label cheese, and what they had to label a cheese product. The feds were death on cheese products.
Look again.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:07:32pm |
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prairiefire Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:08:45pm |
re: #66 EmmmieG
I think you missed the vicious arguments, legislative battles and debates over the right of the South to sell beer and cabbage in the same stores. It was nearly as bad as the battle over what a brewery could label cheese, and what they had to label a cheese product. The feds were death on cheese products.
Look again.
Wisconsin outlawed margarine.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:09:16pm |
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Simply Sarah Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:09:51pm |
re: #66 EmmmieG
I think you missed the vicious arguments, legislative battles and debates over the right of the South to sell beer and cabbage in the same stores. It was nearly as bad as the battle over what a brewery could label cheese, and what they had to label a cheese product. The feds were death on cheese products.
Look again.
Breweries were labeling and selling cheese? We should have just let the South go, those sick bastards.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:11:24pm |
re: #70 Simply Sarah
Breweries were labeling and selling cheese? We should have just let the South go, those sick bastards.
Actually, the two are close together. Both involve making a product with carefully sterilized equipment, introducing specific bacteria, and then aging the product.
You can find the supplies in some of the same stores.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:11:49pm |
David Byrne is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:11:52pm |
What's interesting to me is how 9/13 states of the CSa seceded before Lincoln even became president.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:12:20pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
And secondly, how many times do politicians have to be schooled by musicians about permission and all that?
Meanwhile, they're in the pocket of an organization that thinks winning a copyright infringement judgment entitles them to a monetary award greater than the GDP of all the planet's nations combined.
With handy infographic
Image: record-label-vs-indie-release.png
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Simply Sarah Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:12:27pm |
re: #71 EmmmieG
Actually, the two are close together. Both involve making a product with carefully sterilized equipment, introducing specific bacteria, and then aging the product.
You can find the supplies in some of the same stores.
Yes, but you generally don't get wasted off of cheese. *waits for someone to indicate experience otherwise*
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:12:32pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:15:00pm |
re: #73 HappyWarrior
What's interesting to me is how 9/13 states of the CSa seceded before Lincoln even became president.
You should check out the details of the 1860 election, specifically the delibarate splitting of the Democratic party.
Some believe that the South provoked a crisis. They seceeded before he had done anything, or even said he would do anything.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:19:05pm |
re: #1 albusteve
thief!...he doesn't condone it now that he has a hand in the cookie jar...before that he was asleep, unfactual that is
So, you are a Rubio fan, are you?
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:20:13pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:20:13pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:21:29pm |
LOL tweet. Re: Pap smears @ Walgreens
Johngcole John Cole
So wrong. RT @LitThom: @Johngcole "I want a two-liter Diet Pepsi and a pap-smear. And I need one of those polaroid thingamjgs."
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prairiefire Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:22:16pm |
re: #72 goddamnedfrank
David Byrne is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
He has a very earnest manner.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:23:20pm |
re: #56 jamesfirecat
So 23.9% of Americans are Catholic, and 28% of Americans who get abortions are catholic...
28%>23.9%...
Ruh-Roh! (The statistics would seem to say we aren't very good at being Catholics)
(Granted I wonder how many American Catholics support birth control...)
I'm in a pedantic mood, so I'll point out that pointing out here that 28 > 23.9 is meaningless.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:24:53pm |
re: #81 Stanley Sea
LOL tweet. Re: Pap smears @ Walgreens
Johngcole John Cole
So wrong. RT @LitThom: @Johngcole "I want a two-liter Diet Pepsi and a pap-smear. And I need one of those polaroid thingamjgs."
BAD CONCEPT, IMHO.
*waves*
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sagehen Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:25:18pm |
re: #61 Iwouldprefernotto
Is this the first Republican apology ever? Seems like it.
not really... Crist isn't a Republican anymore.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:25:57pm |
re: #85 Floral Giraffe
Hey Flo! Total lies from Fox. Again.
Hope you are doing fine! Saw two red headed woodpeckers fighting over a tree, 10 feet above me. Loved it, spring is a-coming.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:26:06pm |
re: #72 goddamnedfrank
David Byrne is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
Why is that?
Late & haven't read upthread...
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:26:51pm |
re: #87 Stanley Sea
Wood peckers are so cool!
I think, redheads nest enmasse!
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Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:28:41pm |
re: #79 albusteve
no...how about you?
Perhaps you didn't follow Florida.
I think Crist would have been many times better and I doubt Rubio would have made a similar apology. The only reason Rubio won is because of a Democrat candidate who never had a chance in hell of wining split Crist's vote by taking the race voters.
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:29:53pm |
re: #90 Naso Tang
Perhaps you didn't follow Florida.
I think Crist would have been many times better and I doubt Rubio would have made a similar apology. The only reason Rubio won is because of a Democrat candidate who never had a chance in hell of wining split Crist's vote by taking the race voters.
I don't follow the minutia, it's true
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sagehen Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:31:17pm |
re: #77 EmmmieG
You should check out the details of the 1860 election, specifically the delibarate splitting of the Democratic party.
Some believe that the South provoked a crisis. They seceeded before he had done anything, or even said he would do anything.
And in the leadup, President Buchanan moved army assets away from bases to deliberately leave them undefended, then closed his eyes and stuck his fingers in his ears while State governments in the south seized US Army forts, armories and stables full of horses.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:32:18pm |
re: #91 albusteve
I don't follow the minutia, it's true
Rubio is not considered minutia in Republican circles.
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wrenchwench Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:32:21pm |
re: #88 Floral Giraffe
Why is that?
Late & haven't read upthread...
Google the phrase without David Byrne.
I had to...
One of the results was Steve Sailer at VDARE, writing about Obama and what a mystery he is. Kinda brought things full circle.
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albusteve Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:36:54pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:42:35pm |
OMG reading more right leaning blogs, the Donald is loved.
I feel like America is crazy. Just fucking crazy.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:43:57pm |
re: #98 Stanley Sea
OMG reading more right leaning blogs, the Donald is loved.
I feel like America is crazy. Just fucking crazy.
Nucking Futz, they LOVES them the Donald
(Scares the shit out of me...)
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Mocking Jay Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:45:03pm |
re: #99 Floral Giraffe
Nucking Futz, they LOVES them the Donald
(Scares the shit out of me...)
Of course. The Donald will make sure this country is respected again.
#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:45:29pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:46:06pm |
re: #21 SpaceJesus
freep thread on the 150th anniversary of the start of the civil war aka the great conservative redneck stompfest
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
Sesesh still don't know when they been whupped.
My ancestors on both sides of the family were southern Unionists. Their respective regions, north Texas and the North Carolina/Tennessee mountains, were hotbeds of anti-Confederate agitation. It is an interesting fact that Unionist sentiment tended to be stronger in areas that had few slaves. Map, Distribution of Slave Population in 1860. (2.3 MB image) Note the very small percentage of slaves in western Virginia, so staunchly pro-Union that it seceded from Virginia and created a new state, West Virginia.
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jaunte Tue, Apr 12, 2011 5:49:06pm |
re: #102 Shiplord Kirel
Look at the congressional districts for Ron Paul and Joe Wilson on that map.
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prairiefire Tue, Apr 12, 2011 6:03:30pm |
re: #102 Shiplord Kirel
After the Union troops fired on m=women and children in St. Louis, my Chrisman great grandpa signed up with the Confederates. He was a shop owner w/o slaves. His last battle was Pea Ridge in Arkansas and he was elevated to Captain.
My grand pa on the Union side helped his father cut down and bury a confederate soldier who had been lynched. He joined with the Union side a couple of years later.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 12, 2011 6:04:51pm |
re: #103 jaunte
Look at the congressional districts for Ron Paul and Joe Wilson on that map.
Interesting. SC counties have changed to some extent but Wilson's district definitely includes most of the areas with high slave populations, especially Beaufort County (82.9%). Even Lexington County, with apparently the lowest percentage of slaves in Wilson's current district, had 39%.
Paul's district includes the two counties that had the highest percentage of slaves in Texas, Wharton (80% slave) and Brazoria (71%). One Texas county, Clay, had no slaves at all. My mother's ancestors lived in Wise County, which had 4.1% slaves.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Apr 12, 2011 6:11:26pm |
re: #104 prairiefire
After the Union troops fired on m=women and children in St. Louis, my Chrisman great grandpa signed up with the Confederates. He was a shop owner w/o slaves. His last battle was Pea Ridge in Arkansas and he was elevated to Captain.
My grand pa on the Union side helped his father cut down and bury a confederate soldier who had been lynched. He joined with the Union side a couple of years later.
It is well documented that only a small percentage of Confederate soldiers actually owned slaves personally. Most of those who did were officers, "men of property." I am not saying that men joined the Confederates to keep their own slaves, but there was a definite correlation between the Confederate sympathies of a population and the relative importance of slavery in the areas where they lived.
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