Madison Tea Party: Palin Introduced by Breitbart Screaming ‘Go To Hell!’

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“Go to hell!”Here’s an update on the pitiful attendance at today’s Teabagfest in Madison, Wisconsin, featuring Andrew “Go To Hell!” Breitbart and Sarah “Fight Like a Girl” Palin, who had to scream to be heard over the counterprotesters. Earlier reports of about a thousand people were slightly under the mark, but not by much; at its peak, police estimated the crowd at 6,500 (but warned that the estimate was inaccurate). Compared to the ~100,000 who attended the demonstrations against Scott Walker’s union-busting bill, this was a tiny crowd.

The tea party supporters were lined along the sidewalk in front of the podium, surrounded by small barriers, perhaps to keep the sounds of counter protesters out. Several thousand counter-protesters surrounded them, chanting “Recall Walker,” blowing whistles and horns, beating drums and sometimes booing the speakers.

Even though they used a sound system, it was hard to hear everything the speakers were saying over the counter-chants. …

Only the shrill Vicki Mckenna, talk show host WIBA, seemed to be able to cut through the chanting, when she told them: “Shut up.” The crowd didn’t listen. Andrew Breitbart was similarly annoyed and told the crowd, “you’ve been so rude, go to hell. You’re trying to divide America.”

Actually, Breitbart screamed, “Go to hell! Go to hell! Go to hell!” like a madman. This was Sarah Palin’s introduction.

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DERPJim “Dim” Hoft, with his customary knack for ridiculously inflating Teabag crowd sizes, is claiming “between 10,000 and 15,000 patriots,” and an indeterminate number of “thugs” who heckled the Madonna of Morons: SARAH PALIN – ANDREW BREITBART Join Thousands of Patriots at Madison Tea Party (Live on UStream) …Update: Thugs Heckle Sarah Palin …Update: Sarah to Obama, “Mr. President, Game On!”

The left is out in force today in Madison, Wisconsin.

But… So are the tea partiers. Andrew Breitbart and Sarah Palin will speak to the throngs of patriots this afternoon. I just heard from a trusted source that, despite the cold weather, there are between 10,000 and 15,000 patriots in attendance.

You can watch the prostes [sic] live here.

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524 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:23:26pm

Andrew Breitbart cares about dividing America? Hahahaha what a joke and Palin continues to show her true colors by associating with a professional douchebag like that.

2 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:24:39pm

The Stewart/Colbert rally pretty much took the fun out of the TP tactic. They'll never get close to that.

3 SteelGHAZI  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:25:39pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Of course he does. He wants to divide it as much as possible.

4 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:25:51pm

Lame. Charles, check your Tweets.

5 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:26:01pm

re: #2 Decatur Deb

The Stewart/Colbert rally pretty much took the fun out of the TP tactic. They'll never get close to that.

The Stewart/Colbert rally was also entertaining for all the right reasons, like The Roots, John Legend, and the Mythbusters. The TP rallies? Not so much.

6 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:26:08pm

re: #3 SteelPH

Of course he does. He wants to divide it as much as possible.

Ah, good catch.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:26:58pm
I just heard from a trusted source

Imaginary friends don't count as a "trusted source", dude.

8 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:27:03pm

re: #5 Lidane

The Stewart/Colbert rally was also entertaining for all the right reasons, like The Roots, John Legend, and the Mythbusters. The TP rallies? Not so much.

Yeah it was a fun time. The TPers meanwhile by and large are a bunch of whiny babies who can't get over the fact that things don't always go their way.

9 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:28:09pm

re: #4 Gus 802

Lame.


Breitbart looks like an angry Pez dispenser.

10 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:29:19pm

re: #9 jaunte

Breitbart looks like an angry Pez dispenser.

That's an insult to PEZ dispensers. He's more like those shitty knockoff PEZ dispensers that you might find at a flea market or garage sale.

11 theheat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:31:04pm

Breitbart and Palin are, like, totally doing it. #NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement
//

I'm not saying it's true, but...
//

Someone told me Breitbart and Palin are doing it.
//

There's probably something to this. I read it somewhere.
//

12 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:31:33pm

re: #4 Gus 802

It's really a jaw-dropper to hear him accusing his opponents of creating 'cynical division.'

13 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:32:35pm

re: #12 jaunte

It's really a jaw-dropper to hear him accusing his opponents of creating 'cynical division.'

Right. Can we say ACORN, O'Keefe and Shirley Sherrod? When Andrew the pot meets the kettle.

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:34:26pm

re: #9 jaunte

I think he could use a laxative or two.

15 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:37:07pm

The way that Hoft calls these Teabaggers "patriots" could be called a chickenhawkism. New word!

16 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:40:47pm

The Weak Tea party.

17 Jeff In Ohio  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:42:47pm

re: #4 Gus 802

Lame. Charles, check your Tweets.

That hobo is very articulate.

18 funky chicken  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:43:41pm

Palin and Breitbart really have come down in the world, haven't they?

19 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:46:22pm

re: #18 funky chicken

Palin and Breitbart really have come down in the world, haven't they?

Yeah, the Tea Party thing looks like it's coming to and end. They only question is what's next?

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:47:24pm

Shout all you want guys. She ain't gonna be president.

Protesters? You're wasting your time.

21 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:51:06pm

re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Protesters? You're wasting your time.

I don't know. They seem to have elevated Breitbart's blood pressure. That's got to be good for something.

22 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:51:24pm

White

23 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:51:26pm

No Godless One World Government!

24 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:51:52pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the Tea Party thing looks like it's coming to and end.

Really? I don't see any evidence that the enthusiasm for the tea party ideology is waning. The "brand name" may be falling out of favor, but I don't see any significant amount of refudiation going on.

25 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:52:02pm

re: #9 jaunte

Breitbart looks like an angry Pez dispenser.

I used to think he looked like a Confederate general but he's put on some weight and gotten rid of the beard.

26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:52:08pm

re: #21 wrenchwench

Ha!

27 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:52:49pm

For years I've heard that the right can't tolerate the left because the left's decisions are always based on emotion where the right's decisions are based on cold calculated, rational logic, yet that isn't what I see. The far right and TP rhetoric has little to no logic, and what logic it does use is poor, but what they do bring to the table are heavily emotionally laced polemics.

I know there are a lot of logical and rational conservatives, we have many here, yet the most vocal conservatives, epitomized by Breitbart and FR loons, show no familiarity with logical dispassionate arguments. Has there been a reversal of roles I've missed or do a lot of modern conservatives simply not understand the difference between emotional and intellectual thought?

28 zora  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:52:56pm

re: #21 wrenchwench

and they appear to have drowned out most of palin's speech. that alone is worth them being there.

29 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:53:25pm

Chief genius.

30 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:53:53pm

re: #22 Gus 802

White

Well d'uh, it's snowing.

31 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:54:33pm

re: #30 b_sharp

Well d'uh, it's snowing.

:O

32 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:55:01pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

No Godless One World Government!

Smacks of Bircher old-school.

33 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:56:36pm

re: #29 Gus 802

Chief genius.

I thought that was snow, now I see it's just dander.

34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:57:12pm

I smell Oscar...

35 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:57:21pm

So hey. Why don't the Teabaggers organize a protest on Wall Street? You know that was the birthplace of the financial meltdown.

[crickets]

36 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:58:53pm

"Prostes"?
LOL.
Looks suspiciously - lewd.

37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:59:12pm

re: #35 Gus 802

I knew a girl once who's nickname was "Cricket". There's a joke there about rubbing the legs together, but I'm just tellin' ya.

38 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:59:25pm

re: #24 negativ

Really? I don't see any evidence that the enthusiasm for the tea party ideology is waning. The "brand name" may be falling out of favor, but I don't see any significant amount of refudiation going on.

Nobody is showing up to the rallies. Presidential candidates like Trump and Pawlenty only drew crowds of 50 or so to their Tea Party appearances. Palin got a few hundred and most of them were probably bussed in. In places like Wisconsin and Boston the there were far more counter protesters and Tea Partiers. I read a news report yesterday about a Tea Party rally in Florida that only had one single person attending.
There was no rally in dc this year because they couldn't get anyone to show up. Glenn Beck is going off the air soon and nobody is showing up to Tea Party rallies anymore. Republican politicians have been asked about possible repercussions from voting for the budget comprimise and raising the debt ceiling and they aren't afraid of the Tea Party.
I'm pretty sure it's all over.

39 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:59:27pm

re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I smell Oscar...

The little guy that lives in a garbage can?

40 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 3:59:47pm

re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I smell Oscar...

Here's the money quote....

""Atlas Shrugged," a mega-fable that is to capitalists roughly what "To Kill a Mockingbird" is to liberals"

Can anyone... anywhere make ANY sense out of that?

41 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:00:24pm

re: #35 Gus 802

So hey. Why don't the Teabaggers organize a protest on Wall Street?

And travel to New York? Pfft. They'd be surrounded by godless liberals and Muslim-loving, mosque supporting traitors, don'tcha know.

42 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:01:20pm

re: #27 b_sharp

For years I've heard that the right can't tolerate the left because the left's decisions are always based on emotion where the right's decisions are based on cold calculated, rational logic, yet that isn't what I see. The far right and TP rhetoric has little to no logic, and what logic it does use is poor, but what they do bring to the table are heavily emotionally laced polemics.

I know there are a lot of logical and rational conservatives, we have many here, yet the most vocal conservatives, epitomized by Breitbart and FR loons, show no familiarity with logical dispassionate arguments. Has there been a reversal of roles I've missed or do a lot of modern conservatives simply not understand the difference between emotional and intellectual thought?

I happen to think the reasonable conservatives, like many reasonable liberals/progressives wind up with their brand hijacked by the more extreme from time to time. The 'net accelerates the data and the behavior folks via new media/social media etc. The crazies drown out the reasonable by the very nature of new media and old media. Now it's faster. The speed of twitter.

44 Tigger2005  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:02:34pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the Tea Party thing looks like it's coming to and end. They only question is what's next?

TeaNazi Party?

45 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:03:24pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Trump Warns Cantor Not To Give Up Birther Fight: 'People Love This Issue' (VIDEO)

Hey, Frum -- how's that quarantine workin' out for ya?

///

46 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:04:13pm

LOL @ Matt Drudge...

Palin Wows Wisconsin Tea Partiers With Blistering Speech...

Blistering? That was probably the poorest and clumsiest thing I ever heard. Even for Palin it reached new sucky levels.

Of course the Yahoo news article he linked to doesn't even mention anything approaching a "blistering speech".

47 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:05:30pm

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a girl once who's nickname was "Cricket". There's a joke there about rubbing the legs together, but I'm just tellin' ya.

Didn't shave much, did she?

;-P

48 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:05:52pm

re: #45 Lidane

Poor Frum. He desperately wants movement conservatism to be vindicated, and he keeps predicting it will be, even as it crumbles before him into the incoherent ramblings of morons.

Of course, he helped mightily to turn it into what it is today, so I have no sympathy.

49 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:06:56pm

Kwa kwa kwa kwa...

Rove: Trump a 'Joke Candidate,' Part of the 'Nutty Right'

50 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:07:02pm

re: #45 Lidane

Hey, Frum -- how's that quarantine workin' out for ya?

///

Ha!

51 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:08:38pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Kwa kwa kwa kwa...

Rove: Trump a 'Joke Candidate,' Part of the 'Nutty Right'

Thorazine!

joeyblueyes [Moderator] 51 minutes ago
THE JOKE IS ON ROVE, TRUMP IS ASKING THE QUESTIONS OF STYMIE, THAT RUN OF THE MILL RINOS ARE A FRAID TO ASK, AND THE PRAVDA PRESS WILL NOT ASK. AS LONG AS DONALD DOESN'T PULL A PEROT, I'M WITH HIM FOR ANY PART OF A REPUBLICAN TICKET. BUT BEWARE DONALDS HANDLER IS A DEMOCRAT WHO VOTED FOR BUCKWHEAT IN 2008. THIS COULD BE A KENYAN SOROS SET UP. TO KEEP THE OBITLA REGIME INTACT

52 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:09:34pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Kwa kwa kwa kwa...

Rove: Trump a 'Joke Candidate,' Part of the 'Nutty Right'

I'm shocked. The guy's smarter than this. And you know, the idea that President Obama was not born in Hawaii, being -- you know, making that the centerpiece of his campaign, means that he's just -- you know, now, you know, a joke candidate. Let him go ahead and announce for election on "The Apprentice." The American people aren't going to be hiring him, and certainly, the Republicans are not going to be hiring him in the Republican primary.

Really Rove? Is that why he's leading by 9 points? The entire GOP is delusional. Even the ones that want to be seen as sane, are making statements that are so divorced from reality as to make one wonder if they really believe anything they say.

53 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:10:32pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

I hope you're right. However, I suspect that the months leading up to Nov 2012 will unleash volcanic torrents of Crazy that we have only thus far glimpsed as through a glass, darkly.

54 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:11:04pm

re: #51 Gus 802

I was a fraid to read the comments; thanks for dredging that one up!

55 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:11:16pm

I just had to Tweet that. First time I ever Tweeted a Fox Nation link but that one is so good for pissing off the wingnuts.

56 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:13:51pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Kwa kwa kwa kwa...

Rove: Trump a 'Joke Candidate,' Part of the 'Nutty Right'

Oh the comments.

"I'm about done with Fox News"

Ha!

57 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:14:04pm

re: #55 Gus 802

Hey, John Galt also showed up in the comment thread:


johngalttexas [Moderator] 1 hour ago
Nutty Right. For questioning the legitimacy of a cretin who has expended millions to hide almost every facet of his past. Got it. I'm about through with Fox News.


That's right, Fox, you've just about lost Galt.

58 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:14:45pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Oh the comments.

"I'm about done with Fox News"

Ha!

That's why I Tweeted it! Woohoo! It's so easy to raise the wingnut blood pressure.

59 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:14:51pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Oh the comments.

"I'm about done with Fox News"

Ha!

Fox is too liberal for the right. ROFL

60 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:15:52pm

re: #59 Fozzie Bear

Fox is too liberal for the right. ROFL

Hey. Don't forget. Arizona is employing left wing tactics.

61 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:16:24pm

Left wing derangement syndrome.

Lefties are everywhere! They've taken over! Run for the hills!

//

62 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:17:57pm

re: #53 negativ

I hope you're right. However, I suspect that the months leading up to Nov 2012 will unleash volcanic torrents of Crazy that we have only thus far glimpsed as through a glass, darkly.

I agree on that. Now that the Tea Party is dead the wingnuts are just flailing wildly with nothing to guide them. I think Trump is a good example of this. He has nothing in common with the Tea Party. He's pretty left leaning. Proposed higher taxes on the wealthy, advocated for Canadian style single payer universal healthcare and supported a long list of Democrats. Wingnuts have latched on to him because the birther thing even though he believes the exact opposite of the Tea Party.

63 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:18:03pm

re: #61 Gus 802

Left wing derangement syndrome.

Lefties are everywhere! They've taken over! Run for the hills!

//

We're all going to diii-eeeee!
//

64 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:19:44pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

He works the media, they love him for his ratings. Bigger than life kinda media infatuation. Trump has the moment. Watch it fade.

65 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:19:50pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

I agree on that. Now that the Tea Party is dead the wingnuts are just flailing wildly with nothing to guide them. I think Trump is a good example of this. He has nothing in common with the Tea Party. He's pretty left leaning. Proposed higher taxes on the wealthy, advocated for Canadian style single payer universal healthcare and supported a long list of Democrats. Wingnuts have latched on to him because the birther thing even though he believes the exact opposite of the Tea Party.

I'm not doubting you on this, but do you happen to have any links for this? I would love to blow a few wingnut minds.

66 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:21:01pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Kwa kwa kwa kwa...

Rove: Trump a 'Joke Candidate,' Part of the 'Nutty Right'

Someone e-mail that link to Frum so he can keep telling us that birtherism is being contained.

67 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:21:09pm

re: #65 Fozzie Bear

I'm not doubting you on this, but do you happen to have any links for this? I would love to blow a few wingnut minds.

A couple of people I went to high school with (lunatic fringe conservatives) are singing Trump's praises on facebook. I think they need to see this information.

68 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:21:33pm

re: #46 Gus 802

LOL @ Matt Drudge...

Palin Wows Wisconsin Tea Partiers With Blistering Speech...

Blistering? That was probably the poorest and clumsiest thing I ever heard. Even for Palin it reached new sucky levels.

Of course the Yahoo news article he linked to doesn't even mention anything approaching a "blistering speech".

My doctor assured me that I couldn't contract chlamydia just from hearing someone talk.

69 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:22:10pm

re: #64 Rightwingconspirator

He's getting a tremendous amount of free advertising for his brand.

70 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:22:49pm

re: #67 Fozzie Bear

A couple of people I went to high school with (lunatic fringe conservatives) are singing Trump's praises on facebook. I think they need to see this information.

Google "Donald Trump Nancy Pelosi" he wrote her a letter saying that "she was the best"

71 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:23:26pm

Good God you should read the crap these psychos Tweet to Charles. A lot are still stuck on the ponytail thing. What a bunch of slack jawed regressive dipshits. It's 2011. No one gives a fuck about ponytails except for wingnuts I reckon.

72 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:23:55pm

re: #66 Lidane

Someone e-mail that link to Frum so he can keep telling us that birtherism is being contained.

It's being contained via the ancient fire fighting technique of "Screw it lets just let the son of a bitch go wherever it pleases, it has to burn itself out at some point right?"

73 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:26:03pm

re: #65 Fozzie Bear

I'm not doubting you on this, but do you happen to have any links for this? I would love to blow a few wingnut minds.

Donald Trump on Health Care


We must have universal health care
I�m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.


More here
Enter the Donald, Take Two
How will the Trump 2012 presidential campaign explain the Trump 2000 presidential campaign?

74 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:26:13pm

re: #53 negativ

I hope you're right. However, I suspect that the months leading up to Nov 2012 will unleash volcanic torrents of Crazy that we have only thus far glimpsed as through a glass, darkly.

More concerned with reactions in 2013, after we steal the presidency again, and carry more Dems into Congress.

75 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:26:53pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Thank you much. I'm going to have a field day with these.

76 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:28:00pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Good God you should read the crap these psychos Tweet to Charles. A lot are still stuck on the ponytail thing. What a bunch of slack jawed regressive dipshits. It's 2011. No one gives a fuck about ponytails except for wingnuts I reckon.

Youtube Video
77 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:28:15pm

Jawa chickenhawks. Also good for Jawa cannon fodder.

78 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:28:47pm

re: #69 jaunte

He always has. A very successful at selling his favorite thing in the world-Himself.

79 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:29:43pm

re: #75 Fozzie Bear

Thank you much. I'm going to have a field day with these.

I know it seems like it will be fun but I checked the comments on sites like Hot Air. The wingnuts aren't really bothered by it so don't expect much of a reaction.

80 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:32:00pm

re: #72 jamesfirecat

It's being contained via the ancient fire fighting technique of "Screw it lets just let the son of a bitch go wherever it pleases, it has to burn itself out at some point right?"

sorta off-topic, but just look at how accurate you are:

[Link: www.star-telegram.com...]

I'm about 100 miles away from that, and yesterday the air was brown with the smoke. Crazy wind, much more appropriate to the Panhandle/Plains region of TX than the urban DFW area. Much better today, but... daaaayum.

/the weather
//hot enough for ya?
///but it's a dry heat

81 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:32:37pm

Lol, still reading the Fox/Trump comments


I still feel it’s possible that Mr. Trumps candidacy was hatched in a dark corner of some Chicago think tank. Rove may well be right on his concerns about Trump. I hope not.

Chicago Think Tank - the CTT

82 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:33:33pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

The paranoia on the right is amazing. It's so all encompassing I feel they might start killing themselves because they don't trust the fucker in the mirror.

83 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:33:38pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Chicago Think Tank - the CTT

So it's all Rahm Emanuel's fault, then?

84 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:34:28pm

re: #76 Lidane

[Video]

Hey, I didn't know that song had the f word in it! More than once!

85 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:34:41pm
Remember to mark my words when Trump produces a long form birth certificate from Hawaii at the last moment and watch Independent voters RUN from the GOP prospects.

Hahahaha

86 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:35:03pm

re: #82 Fozzie Bear

The paranoia on the right is amazing. It's so all encompassing I feel they might start killing themselves because they don't trust the fucker in the mirror.

Just wait. Should Obama win a second term, these people are going to completely flip their shit.

87 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:35:06pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Good God you should read the crap these psychos Tweet to Charles. A lot are still stuck on the ponytail thing. What a bunch of slack jawed regressive dipshits. It's 2011. No one gives a fuck about ponytails except for wingnuts I reckon.

You mean, like this one, from "informedblackmn?"

@Lizardoid Nice ponytail. Are you accepting donations at your website for your sex-change operation? #uglyhippiesarerediculous

88 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:35:32pm

I just add them to the Global Filter after one tweet.

89 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:35:41pm

re: #86 Lidane

Just wait. Should Obama win a second term, these people are going to completely flip their shit.

Of this I have no doubt.

90 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:36:04pm

re: #87 Charles

You mean, like this one, from "informedblackmn?"

That's exactly who I was referring to. What a creep. I responded to the idiot.

91 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:38:58pm

re: #90 Gus 802

That's exactly who I was referring to. What a creep. I responded to the idiot.

I'm sure there are a lot more -- I saw some retweets of a bunch of insults from that chucklehead Jim Nolte. Whenever Breitbart or his suck-up Nolte do this, there are a dozen or so drooling knuckle-draggers who chime in; a lot of the worst ones are already in my global filter, so it's very easy to ignore them because I never see them.

92 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:40:41pm

CuriousLurker just posted this down below:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Hehe.

93 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:40:45pm

re: #91 Charles

I'm sure there are a lot more -- I saw some retweets of a bunch of insults from that chucklehead Jim Nolte. Whenever Breitbart or his suck-up Nolte do this, there are a dozen or so drooling knuckle-draggers who chime in; a lot of the worst ones are already in my global filter, so it's very easy to ignore them because I never see them.

I rarely see them except one of those idiots Tweeted me this morning. Then I searched for "@Lizardoid" and saw the rest of the mouth breathers. Blocked the one idiot.

94 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:40:57pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Kwa kwa kwa kwa...

Rove: Trump a 'Joke Candidate,' Part of the 'Nutty Right'

Rove was on that page? All I saw was a naked Bridget Moynahan.

95 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:43:26pm

The Whackos™ are truly waging a war against Individual Rights. While they twist Science, Ayn Rand and other historical resources to their needs, they are waging a war against both men and women. Trying to return to 'old-fashioned' values that never were, to create a theocratic utopia that never can be.

Without reproductive freedom (a/k/a sexual freedom --the horror) the INDIVIDUAL is not free.

You know my favorite site: [Link: www.plannedparenthood.org...]

How is everyone?

96 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:45:47pm

re: #71 Gus 802

No one gives a fuck about ponytails except for wingnuts I reckon.


Why do they hate the Founding Fathers?

97 justaminute  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:46:28pm

I took the time to remind the hard headed right in Oklahoma that their party wants to cut funding for FEMA and cut back on funding for the Severe Storm Lab in Norman that tracks tornadoes. Today was a good day to remind them how much their party cares for them. The whole South should be reminded about that today.

98 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:52:41pm

re: #96 jaunte

Why do they hate the Founding Fathers?

They must be pretty upset with Ted Nugent too. It's all so dumb.

99 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:55:33pm

re: #98 Gus 802

They must be pretty upset with Ted Nugent too. It's all so dumb.

It's about clearly defined gender-roles.

Because, I guess, it is important to know what sex a person is when you are dealing with them. IMHO, unless you are really concerned about offending them (which shouldn't matter unless you are a misogynist) or are looking to get laid by a certain gender. In all other dealings--does it matter?

100 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:55:38pm

Well, guess it's my turn to cower under the desk. They just issued a tornado warnin' here. See ya'll on the back end.

101 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:56:03pm

re: #100 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, guess it's my turn to cower under the desk. They just issued a tornado warnin' here. See ya'll on the back end.

stay safe!

102 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:58:33pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

I agree on that. Now that the Tea Party is dead the wingnuts are just flailing wildly with nothing to guide them. I think Trump is a good example of this. He has nothing in common with the Tea Party. He's pretty left leaning. Proposed higher taxes on the wealthy, advocated for Canadian style single payer universal healthcare and supported a long list of Democrats. Wingnuts have latched on to him because the birther thing even though he believes the exact opposite of the Tea Party.

Kind of makes me wonder if Trump's punking the TPers...

103 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 4:59:55pm

re: #102 talon_262

Kind of makes me wonder if Trump's punking the TPers...

Trump is player. He sees profit in it, otherwise he wouldn't do it.

104 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:01:17pm

re: #87 Charles

You mean, like this one, from "informedblackmn?"

I somehow doubt that person is black and they sure as hell ain't informed...

105 SteelGHAZI  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:01:17pm

So, how long before Fox inflates the numbers and uses stock footage again?

106 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:01:47pm

Thunderstorms coming in. I got to go. BBL

107 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:05:31pm

I couldn't take it anymore so I ordered Chinese delivery.

Chinlee!

108 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:05:44pm

re: #103 ggt

Trump is player. He sees profit in it, otherwise he wouldn't do it.

Precisely...Trump's "bid" is more about keeping him on top of the media cycle than anything else.

109 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:05:58pm

re: #100 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, guess it's my turn to cower under the desk. They just issued a tornado warnin' here. See ya'll on the back end.

Find a chicken to sacrifice.

Then head for the cellar/basement/bunker and be safe.

110 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:06:50pm

FWIW - Ayn Rand hated conservatives.

She fought Buckley all her life and even called Reagan an "enemy of freedom" in the late 70's.

Rand was too much a radical pro-choice atheist science type feminist to co-exist with the SoCons.

111 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:07:07pm

re: #99 ggt

It's about clearly defined gender-roles.

Because, I guess, it is important to know what sex a person is when you are dealing with them. IMHO, unless you are really concerned about offending them (which shouldn't matter unless you are a misogynist) or are looking to get laid by a certain gender. In all other dealings--does it matter?

Yeah. I tell ya. With my ponytail it's hard to tell if I'm a dude. Especially with the longish beard and Hank Hill ass that I possess.

//

112 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:09:05pm

re: #111 Gus 802

Yeah. I tell ya. With my ponytail it's hard to tell if I'm a dude. Especially with the longish beard and Hank Hill ass that I possess.

//

You heathen!

LOL

113 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:09:23pm

"Several thousand counter-protesters surrounded them, chanting “Recall Walker,” blowing whistles and horns, beating drums and sometimes booing the speakers."

This is one of many teachable moments we can expect from the angry left. They're really big on free speech as long as it doesn't come from the center or right. The rabble-rousers who were filling the punchbowl with turds today in Wisconsin aren't typical of the majority of people who live there. Last November they elected a Republican Governor and a Republican US Senator. Russ Feingold was shown the door simply because he had ventured so far left, the mature, centrist voters had their collective fill of not only Russ, but the Democrat Party in general. Sure there were a lot of whiny babies out there today, but based on how the state voted overall, the bed-wetters are in the minority.

114 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:09:39pm

Red alert!

LOL

115 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:10:00pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Good God you should read the crap these psychos Tweet to Charles. A lot are still stuck on the ponytail thing. What a bunch of slack jawed regressive dipshits. It's 2011. No one gives a fuck about ponytails except for wingnuts I reckon.

They're getting their panties bunched up over ponytails? Sheesh what a bunch of squares.

116 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:10:16pm

re: #113 rwmofo

Have a doughnut.

117 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:10:31pm

re: #110 Linden Arden

FWIW - Ayn Rand hated conservatives.

She fought Buckley all her life and even called Reagan an "enemy of freedom" in the late 70's.

Rand was too much a radical pro-choice atheist science type feminist to co-exist with the SoCons.

The entire New Testament was basically a giant polemic on the necessity of people having compassion for each other and not casting judgement on each other. Somehow I don't think Rand's atheist/feminist roots are going to bother them at all.

118 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:11:05pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

They're getting their panties bunched up over ponytails? Sheesh what a bunch of squares.

I know. It's like something out of Muskogee in the 60s. Heck, I've seen rednecks with the longest ponytails I've ever seen.

119 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:11:49pm

re: #118 Gus 802

I know. It's like something out of Muskogee in the 60s. Heck, I've seen rednecks with the longest ponytails I've ever seen.

Shit rednecks gave us the mullet. They're the last people that should be lecturing others on their hair.

120 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:11:51pm

re: #113 rwmofo

"Several thousand counter-protesters surrounded them, chanting “Recall Walker,” blowing whistles and horns, beating drums and sometimes booing the speakers."

This is one of many teachable moments we can expect from the angry left. They're really big on free speech as long as it doesn't come from the center or right. The rabble-rousers who were filling the punchbowl with turds today in Wisconsin aren't typical of the majority of people who live there. Last November they elected a Republican Governor and a Republican US Senator. Russ Feingold was shown the door simply because he had ventured so far left, the mature, centrist voters had their collective fill of not only Russ, but the Democrat Party in general. Sure there were a lot of whiny babies out there today, but based on how the state voted overall, the bed-wetters are in the minority.

You really can be a hoot.

121 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:12:37pm

ahaha!
Breitbart screams and presto!....the hounds are loose!
the convergence of Palin and AB is where two fools met

122 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:13:15pm

re: #120 b_sharp

You really can be a hoot.

...and it's complimentary. Heh.

123 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:13:15pm

Man, Democrat was at the bottom!

124 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:13:47pm

re: #113 rwmofo

Are protesters supposed to stand there silently now?

125 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:14:18pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Man, Democrat was at the bottom!

Thanks. I didn't get that far.

126 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:14:47pm

re: #125 JasonA

Thanks. I didn't get that far.

haha. I knew it would be there. Someone's slipping.

127 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:15:27pm

re: #124 JasonA

Are protesters supposed to stand there silently now?

Hmmm. I guess just the conservative protesters should, right?

128 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:15:33pm

re: #113 rwmofo

Sadly, Feingold was the only US Senator to vote against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.

No one deserved to keep his seat more than he did.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:16:58pm

re: #113 rwmofo

Troll is trolling.

130 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:17:17pm

re: #127 rwmofo

Hmmm. I guess just the conservative protesters should, right?

You're the one whining about protesters.

131 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:17:17pm

re: #127 rwmofo

Hmmm. I guess just the conservative protesters should, right?

I don't know if you've actually been reading this blog lately, but the biggest problem most of us here have with Tea Party protests is the blatant, outright racism.

That and the atrocious spelling...

132 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:17:20pm

re: #128 Linden Arden

Sadly, Feingold was the only US Senator to vote against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.

No one deserved to keep his seat more than he did.

Look at the bright side. You still have Biden fighting for you. Can't wait to hear what he's going to say next.

133 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:17:50pm

re: #128 Linden Arden

Sadly, Feingold was the only US Senator to vote against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.

No one deserved to keep his seat more than he did.

two votes in your favor does not make a career....he's just another lunatic with some perverse cred...small change

134 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:18:30pm

re: #130 b_sharp

You're the one whining about protesters.

No. I don't whine. I just observe and report.

135 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:18:32pm

re: #128 Linden Arden

Sadly, Feingold was the only US Senator to vote against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.

No one deserved to keep his seat more than he did.

Feingold was the last honorable man in the Senate, alas.

136 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:18:32pm

re: #132 rwmofo

Look at the bright side. You still have Biden fighting for you. Can't wait to hear what he's going to say next.

I'd like to say it won't be "Go to hell," but you can never really be sure with that guy.

137 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:19:07pm

re: #129 wlewisiii

Troll is trolling.

and you are the troll?....thanks for the heads up

138 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:19:08pm

re: #132 rwmofo

Look at the bright side. You still have Biden fighting for you. Can't wait to hear what he's going to say next.

We'd rather hang on your every word, your eloquence and impeccable logic are a treat to read.

139 Jeff In Ohio  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:19:14pm

re: #113 rwmofo

That's Media-Democrat party, asshole.

140 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:20:38pm

re: #131 JasonA

I don't know if you've actually been reading this blog lately, but the biggest problem most of us here have with Tea Party protests is the blatant, outright racism.

That and the atrocious spelling...

Racism? Do you mean this guy? I didn't realize Joe was a tea partier.

141 elisabeth  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:20:48pm

re: #132 rwmofo

And that's a big fucking deal.

142 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:21:14pm

re: #138 b_sharp

We'd rather hang on your every word, your eloquence and impeccable logic are a treat to read.

LOL!...as if you are anymore interesting?
god, what a bunch of egotists

143 Jeff In Ohio  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:21:58pm

re: #134 rwmofo

No. I don't whine. I just observe and report.

Yes, that is the thrust of my 7 year old complaining about her 14 year old sister wearing her socks. She's not whining, she's observing and reporting.

144 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:22:03pm

re: #142 albusteve

LOL!...as if you are anymore interesting?
god, what a bunch of egotists

And yet Mr. Crankypants still hangs with us.

145 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:22:09pm

re: #139 Jeff In Ohio

That's Media-Democrat party, asshole.

I knew it wouldn't take long. Can't think of anything witty to say, so throw in with the name calling. Deeeep. Not.

146 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:22:24pm

re: #142 albusteve

LOL!...as if you are anymore interesting?
god, what a bunch of egotists

Which Steve are we tonight Steve?

147 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:22:54pm

re: #132 rwmofo

Look at the bright side. You still have Biden fighting for you. Can't wait to hear what he's going to say next.

Biden voted against your pal Bork.

Case closed.

148 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:22:57pm

Alright, I'm back...for the moment. We're getting some good, strong storms right now and might end up under another warning before the night's through.

On the plus side, all the pollen on my car is washed off.

149 Jeff In Ohio  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:23:02pm

re: #145 rwmofo

I knew it wouldn't take long. Can't think of anything witty to say, so throw in with the name calling. Deeep. Not.

What would be the point of playing the charade?

150 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:23:09pm

Of course, Biden is a terrible racist but poor George Allen was misunderstood. And by hte way the worst part of Allen said really so much wasn't the slur but alluding that you can't be a real Virginian and be of Indian decent. By the way that kid is more of a Virginian than Allen ever will be.

151 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:23:26pm

re: #145 rwmofo

I knew it wouldn't take long. Can't think of anything witty to say, so throw in with the name calling. Deeep. Not.

Anyone ever tell you that like most wingnuts you're obnoxious?

152 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:24:23pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Anyone ever tell you that like most wingnuts you're obnoxious?

LOL. Thanks Gus.

153 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:24:50pm

re: #113 rwmofo

Piss off...you're giving us sane, rational conservatives (or what might called a classical liberal) a bad name and sour stomachs.

154 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:25:03pm

re: #152 rwmofo

LOL. Thanks Gus.

How do you feel about ponytails?

155 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:25:38pm

re: #110 Linden Arden

FWIW - Ayn Rand hated conservatives.

She fought Buckley all her life and even called Reagan an "enemy of freedom" in the late 70's.

Rand was too much a radical pro-choice atheist science type feminist to co-exist with the SoCons.

She was also effectively pro gay marriage.

"All laws against homosexual acts should be repealed. I do not approve of such practices or regard them as necessarily moral, but it is improper for the law to interfere with a relationship between consenting adults. Laws against corrupting the morals of minors are proper, but adults should be completely free."

156 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:25:54pm

re: #140 rwmofo

Racism? Do you mean this guy? I didn't realize Joe was a tea partier.

We should ignore the inherent racism of the TP because you feel a Democrat made a racist comment?

Why?

157 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:26:17pm

re: #155 jamesfirecat

She was also effectively pro gay marriage.

"All laws against homosexual acts should be repealed. I do not approve of such practices or regard them as necessarily moral, but it is improper for the law to interfere with a relationship between consenting adults. Laws against corrupting the morals of minors are proper, but adults should be completely free."

That makes it all the more amusing when you see a religious right person sing her praises.

158 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:26:35pm

I am back for a bit. I will probably have to leave again soon. [Link: www.wunderground.com...] PA&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&centerx=400&centery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999&smooth=0

159 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:27:18pm

re: #144 JasonA

And yet Mr. Crankypants still hangs with us.

which proves your incessant joke machine needs oiling...I'm just passing through

160 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:27:20pm

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

I am back for a bit. I will probably have to leave again soon. [Link: www.wunderground.com...] PA&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&centerx=400&cen tery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerro r=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999 &smooth=0

ooooh, nasty!

stay safe!

161 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:28:06pm

re: #160 ggt

Yes I know. :(

162 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:28:20pm

re: #146 Gus 802

Which Steve are we tonight Steve?

it doesn't matter does it?

163 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:28:42pm

re: #133 albusteve

two votes in your favor does not make a career...he's just another lunatic with some perverse cred...small change

Feingold a "lunatic"?

No one fought for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights more.

The "perverse cred" is your sad apparition.


Debate me if you wish - I will crush you like a fucking grape.

164 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:29:04pm

re: #154 wrenchwench

How do you feel about ponytails?

They're utilitarian. Next question?

165 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:29:55pm

re: #116 Gus 802

Have a doughnut.

You rang? Project Have Donut, the truth about Area 51 and the Israeli connection.

I was asked what sort of person would come up with a name like "Have Donut." My guess would be someone who had missed breakfast. Other "Have" code-names included "Have Nap," which was the US name for the Israeli Popeye cruise missile, and "Have Charcoal" was an infra-red countermeasures device of some sort. One wonders if this gave a clue to how it worked, since one such device attempted to decoy IR missiles by dumping white-hot ceramic bricks overboard.

166 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:30:29pm

re: #163 Linden Arden

Feingold a "lunatic"?

No one fought for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights more.

The "perverse cred" is your sad apparition.

Debate me if you wish - I will crush you like a fucking grape.

LOL!
crush!

167 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:31:10pm

re: #165 Shiplord Kirel

You rang? Project Have Donut, the truth about Area 51 and the Israeli connection.

I was asked what sort of person would come up with a name like "Have Donut." My guess would be someone who had missed breakfast. Other "Have" code-names included "Have Nap," which was the US name for the Israeli Popeye cruise missile, and "Have Charcoal" was an infra-red countermeasures device of some sort. One wonders if this gave a clue to how it worked, since one such device attempted to decoy IR missiles by dumping white-hot ceramic bricks overboard.

Oh yeah. I remember that. Nice Mig-21.

168 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:31:13pm

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

I am back for a bit. I will probably have to leave again soon. [Link: www.wunderground.com...] PA&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&centerx=400&cen tery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerro r=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999 &smooth=0

Yeah the weather here in the DC area is awful too. Went out last night to DC and it was nice out. Stayed over night at a friend's and it was terrible out earlier. Really should have checked out the forecast. Hope it stops raining here by 11 since I have a party to get to which I have to walk to.

169 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:31:32pm

re: #164 rwmofo

They're utilitarian. Next question?

Interesting!

How do you feel about the Magical Balance Fairy?

170 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:32:03pm

re: #145 rwmofo

I knew it wouldn't take long. Can't think of anything witty to say, so throw in with the name calling. Deeep. Not.

You mean like this:

"The rabble-rousers who were filling the punchbowl with turds..."

"... a lot of whiny babies ..."

"... the bed-wetters ..."

Looks like it took less time than you thought.

171 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:32:06pm

re: #165 Shiplord Kirel

You rang? Project Have Donut, the truth about Area 51 and the Israeli connection.

I was asked what sort of person would come up with a name like "Have Donut." My guess would be someone who had missed breakfast. Other "Have" code-names included "Have Nap," which was the US name for the Israeli Popeye cruise missile, and "Have Charcoal" was an infra-red countermeasures device of some sort. One wonders if this gave a clue to how it worked, since one such device attempted to decoy IR missiles by dumping white-hot ceramic bricks overboard.

And don't forget probably the most famous of the "Have" projects, "Have Blue", which gave us the F-117.

172 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:32:19pm

Jesus Christ, you know you're getting old when this

Youtube Video

is the shopping music piped in by the local Tom Thumb.

/get off my lawn
//no wait, come back to my lawn
///and let me regale you with tales of the good old days
////onion on my belt

173 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:33:09pm

re: #166 albusteve

LOL!
crush!

Don't exhaust your word power all at once.

174 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:33:50pm

James Urbaniak tweets:

Say what you will about its technical aspects but "Atlas Shrugged" makes great strides towards a positive onscreen portayal of assholes.
175 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:34:58pm

re: #174 jaunte

James Urbaniak tweets:

And here I thought that was Jersey Shore's job....

176 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:35:05pm

re: #174 jaunte

Holy crap, it's down to 5% on RottenTomatoes.

177 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:35:11pm

re: #170 b_sharp

You mean like this:

Looks like it took less time than you thought.

Search my comments and find an instance where I called a specific lizard an unflattering name. Big difference.

BTW, how come we on the right aren't allowed to call someone names, but it's open season from the left?

178 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:35:28pm

Some bad reports out of Raleigh, NC. Seems they got slammed by up to 3 possible tornadoes. They showed a picture earlier of a Lowe's...or, at least what was left of it. Eyewitnesses are saying the store is pretty much obliterated.

179 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:35:56pm

re: #176 JasonA

Holy crap, it's down to 5% on RottenTomatoes.

It was at 0% (or close to it) the other day, IIRC.

180 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:36:23pm

re: #175 jamesfirecat

And here I thought that was Jersey Shore's job...

Nah, that's douchebags. Was in Borders today that was going out of business and the books were 90% off, and my friend jokingly said well here's The Situation's book. One of the employees actually thought he was serious haha.

181 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:36:38pm

re: #173 Linden Arden

Don't exhaust your word power all at once.

crush me like a grape!
THIS!
THAT!
TRUTH!
you obviously have no clue how stupid that sounds....proceed

182 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:37:24pm

re: #179 talon_262

It was at 0% (or close to it) the other day, IIRC.

It got a positive review. From the NY Post.

183 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:38:38pm

Manha Do Carnaval - Sungha Jung

Youtube Video
184 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:39:59pm

re: #183 jaunte

Manha Do Carnaval - Sungha Jung

[Video]

how is that possible?...a mystery for me

185 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:40:40pm

re: #181 albusteve

You called Feingold a "lunatic".

Why?

Don't Hannity the question - answer it.

186 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:41:00pm

re: #182 JasonA

It got a positive review. From the NY Post.

The New York Post...that's a NewsCorp paper, ain't it?

/why yes it is, Virginia...

187 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:41:24pm

re: #184 albusteve

Unusual kid:
Seongha typically takes three days to learn and practice a new song

188 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:41:34pm

re: #177 rwmofo

Search my comments and find an instance where I called a specific lizard an unflattering name. Big difference.

BTW, how come we on the right aren't allowed to call someone names, but it's open season from the left?

That was you first comment on this thread. The same thread where you made the startling observation of a lizard denigrating you then acted as if the left jumped on the name calling first. I just corrected your observation.

If you want to call people names, then go for it, but if you do don't act all injured and upset if the favour gets returned.

189 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:41:57pm

re: #186 talon_262

The New York Post...that's a NewsCorp paper, ain't it?

/why yes it is, Virginia...

I'm betting the reviewer just really likes trains.

190 Four More Beers  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:42:06pm

Dear Tea Baggers and the Republican Party,

I know how you feel.

Warmest Regards,

The Titanic

191 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:42:30pm

re: #185 Linden Arden

You called Feingold a "lunatic".

Why?

Don't Hannity the question - answer it.

you didn't say the magic word

192 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:42:51pm

re: #190 Kid A

Dear Tea Baggers and the Republican Party,

I know how you feel.

Warmest Regards,

The Titanic

I like to think of the Tea Party as the S.S. Minnow.

/

193 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:42:56pm

re: #190 Kid A

At least the Titanic tried to get out of the way...

194 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:42:59pm

re: #190 Kid A

Dear Tea Baggers and the Republican Party,

I know how you feel.

Warmest Regards,

The Titanic

BWAHAHAHAHA

195 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:44:05pm

What I can't understand is how Jim Hoft thought holding a Tea Party rally in a riled-up lefty college town was a good idea. He should have held it in Fond du Lac or somewhere else that is Republican territory. Heck, even Milwaukee would have been better than Madison.

196 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:44:29pm

re: #188 b_sharp

That was you first comment on this thread. The same thread where you made the startling observation of a lizard denigrating you then acted as if the left jumped on the name calling first. I just corrected your observation.

If you want to call people names, then go for it, but if you do don't act all injured and upset if the favour gets returned.

Thanks for not answering my question. You may want to look running for political office.

197 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:45:01pm

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

What I can't understand is how Jim Hoft thought holding a Tea Party rally in a riled-up lefty college town was a good idea. He should have held it in Fond du Lac or somewhere else that is Republican territory. Heck, even Milwaukee would have been better than Madison.

Heck. They could have held it where the real problem lies: Wall Street.

198 Four More Beers  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:45:15pm

re: #193 JasonA

At least the Titanic tried to get out of the way...

And these clowns can't stop tripping over their own feet. GO TO HELL!!!! GO TO HELL!!! GO TO HELL!!!!! Brilliant...

199 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:45:23pm

re: #187 jaunte

Unusual kid:
Seongha typically takes three days to learn and practice a new song

simply remarkable....someone should teach him a few Charlie Patton licks
he is terrific, all jokes aside...J Bonamassa was a bonafide prodigy too

200 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:45:44pm

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

The organizers probably thought it would be a better show if there was some back and forth between two sides.

201 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:45:44pm

later all!

202 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:46:13pm

re: #190 Kid A

Dear liberal,

We'll see who's laughing when the budget is passed. I'm betting it won't be you.

203 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:46:22pm

re: #200 jaunte

The organizers probably thought it would be a better show if there was some back and forth between two sides.

Probably. Hoft seems to be a guy who relishes the chance to cry victim.

204 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:46:23pm

re: #196 rwmofo

Thanks for not answering my question. You may want to look running for political office.

Yawn.

205 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:46:44pm

re: #201 ggt

later all!

What she said.

206 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:46:49pm

re: #192 Gus 802

I like to think of the Tea Party as the S.S. Minnow.

/

hahaha!
good one
all show, no go....anyone can make a computer from a coconut!

207 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:46:58pm

re: #191 albusteve

you didn't say the magic word

Please?

that is the magic word?

I'm not too proud. Please then.


Nahh I really don't care.

208 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:47:10pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Dear liberal,

We'll see who's laughing when the budget is passed. I'm betting it won't be you.

What kind of magic is going to get a Republican budget get past the Senate and the White House?

209 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:47:34pm

re: #199 albusteve

Here he is doing Michael Hedges' Ritual Dance

Youtube Video
210 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:48:49pm

Kid is crazy talented. What I wouldn't give to have that kind of skill on any instrument.

211 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:48:58pm

Here's a heartbreaking story, and a reminder that some people think the state can do whatever it wants to women when they're pregnant.

Jailed for a Suicide Attempt

212 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:49:08pm

re: #207 Linden Arden

Please?

that is the magic word?

I'm not too proud. Please then.

Nahh I really don't care.

good choice...onward and upward!

213 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:49:27pm

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

What I can't understand is how Jim Hoft thought holding a Tea Party rally in a riled-up lefty college town was a good idea. He should have held it in Fond du Lac or somewhere else that is Republican territory. Heck, even Milwaukee would have been better than Madison.

He did it for maximum effect as a way to thumb their nose at the surroundings from what I understand. A way to say "F*** YOU" to those they disagree with more than rallying support among their own side.

I've got a ready made analogy for this choice of action, but I'd rather not Godwin myself againso let me see if I can think of another.

(8:45 starts thinking)

(8:49 still not thought of anything)

Wait, I've got it!

Like how Sophia Lamb decided to set up shop in Ratpure rather than some place more friendly to her collectivist ideals....

214 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:49:58pm

re: #196 rwmofo

Thanks for not answering my question. You may want to look running for political office.

Your question was a non-sequitur so it wasn't really necessary to answer it but in fact I did answer your question.

Question: "BTW, how come we on the right aren't allowed to call someone names, but it's open season from the left?"

Answer: If you want to call people names, then go for it, but if you do don't act all injured and upset if the favour gets returned.

I have a question for you.

Why do you spend so much time rolling the goalposts around so much?

215 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:50:04pm

re: #200 jaunte

The organizers probably thought it would be a better show if there was some back and forth between two sides.

Then they should have held it in Milwaukee. 'Back and forth' doesn't mean 'go where your side in out numbered 3-1'. Then again, this is Jim Hoft we're talking about.

216 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:50:16pm

re: #208 Gus 802

What kind of magic is going to get a Republican budget get past the Senate and the White House?

See Newt Gingrich as in budget surplus - with a Democrat President. Four years in a row.

217 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:50:16pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Dear liberal,

We'll see who's laughing when the budget is passed. I'm betting it won't be you.

What about the budget that gets passed do you think will be disappointing to us Dark?

218 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:50:21pm

re: #208 Gus 802

What kind of magic is going to get a Republican budget get past the Senate and the White House?

The ink they used to write the bill was sprinkled with Reagan's ashes.

219 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:51:28pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Kid is crazy talented. What I wouldn't give to have that kind of skill on any instrument.

yeah, he could go with a shorter fretboard and even a narrower neck, but he just attacks what he has

220 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:51:37pm

re: #213 jamesfirecat

Funny you bring that up. I've been itching to play the original again.

221 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:52:01pm

The kids are watching "Raising Arizona" for the first time. It is a hit.

222 Four More Beers  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:52:39pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Dear liberal,

We'll see who's laughing when the budget is passed. I'm betting it won't be you.

I know you're immune to humor and sarcasm, but I'm laughing at these clowns that have completely overestimated their importance. Face it Falcon, if a white man was in the White House, none of this Tea Party business would even exist and you know it. And keep your "liberal" labels to yourself. You have no idea what I believe in or support.

223 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:53:06pm

re: #208 Gus 802

What kind of magic is going to get a Republican budget get past the Senate and the White House?

Enough Senate Dems, worried about 2012 will come around a ways. There's also the fact that the House has to originate the budget, so Obama has to play ball. I think Republicans can make a good deal of headway, if they play this relatively smart. And I think Paul Ryan and John Boener will do just that.

224 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:53:34pm

without "the left", your internet troll bitch ass would not exist, Andrew Breitbart

The "left" built the internet for you to wave your puny racist dick around, Andrew Breitbart

225 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:53:34pm

re: #216 rwmofo

See Newt Gingrich as in budget surplus - with a Democrat President. Four years in a row.

Yeah, with Clinton. And Republicans had the Senate majority in addition to the House in 1994 and in 1996. Won't happen this time around. Obama will concede on some items but that'll be about it.

226 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:53:37pm

re: #220 JasonA

Funny you bring that up. I've been itching to play the original again.

The original's story is better, but the sequel has VASTLY improved combat.

You can actually play it as a fairly normal shooter, because your standard side arm (rivet gun) is accurate and you can kill most standard enemies with a headshot, something you very much COULD NOT DO with the pistol in the original.

227 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:54:22pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Enough Senate Dems, worried about 2012 will come around a ways. There's also the fact that the House has to originate the budget, so Obama has to play ball. I think Republicans can make a good deal of headway, if they play this relatively smart. And I think Paul Ryan and John Boener will do just that.

Well good DF. I'm glad you're happy with a GOP budget that wants to kill Planned Parenthood and effectively neuter the EPA.

228 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:54:46pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Enough Senate Dems, worried about 2012 will come around a ways. There's also the fact that the House has to originate the budget, so Obama has to play ball. I think Republicans can make a good deal of headway, if they play this relatively smart. And I think Paul Ryan and John Boener will do just that.

Dark you're gonna need to get 20! TWENTY DEMS to overturn Obama's veto.

Do you really think you'll get those numbers?

If so, well I wish you good luck!

229 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:02pm

re: #226 jamesfirecat

The original's story is better, but the sequel has VASTLY improved combat.

You can actually play it as a fairly normal shooter, because your standard side arm (rivet gun) is accurate and you can kill most standard enemies with a headshot, something you very much COULD NOT DO with the pistol in the original.

That's true, but I also found the sequel to be a little too easy because of those improvements. There was more tension in the original. Especially if there was a Rosie.

230 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:02pm

re: #222 Kid A

You don't know me either, saying a thing like that. And don't bring up the race card; Some members of the Tea Party are racist (the Birthers surely are), but most are not. This about the size and proper role of government, not race.

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:10pm

re: #216 rwmofo

See Newt Gingrich as in budget surplus - with a Democrat President. Four years in a row.

I love you, rwmofo, because everyone on LGF knows you're only kept around to give us a dumb talking point to slap around

232 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:12pm

2nd wave coming. BBL

233 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:25pm

re: #222 Kid A

I know you're immune to humor and sarcasm, but I'm laughing at these clowns that have completely overestimated their importance. Face it Falcon, if a white man was in the White House, none of this Tea Party business would even exist and you know it. And keep your "liberal" labels to yourself. You have no idea what I believe in or support.

I don't dislike BO because he's black, I dislike him because he's not a Cubs fan...an unthinkable all time low for a Chicago pol....why does he hate Ernie Banks?

234 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:28pm

re: #214 b_sharp

Your question was a non-sequitur so it wasn't really necessary to answer it but in fact I did answer your question.

Question: "BTW, how come we on the right aren't allowed to call someone names, but it's open season from the left?"

Answer: If you want to call people names, then go for it, but if you do don't act all injured and upset if the favour gets returned.

I have a question for you.

Why do you spend so much time rolling the goalposts around so much?

Let's see. I said "Can't think of anything witty to say, so throw in with the name calling. Deeep. Not."

That's acting injured and upset? Ummm, no. Apparently you've been taking distortion lessons from Rachel Maddow.

235 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:29pm

Hooray! Here comes the wingnut GOP budget of 2011! Thank good we can finally start working towards killing the EPA! Fuck clean air and clean water.

236 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:31pm

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

You don't know me either, saying a thing like that. And don't bring up the race card; Some members of the Tea Party are racist (the Birthers surely are), but most are not. This about the size and proper role of government, not race.

Some are not racist. Most are stupid as hell. Stupid as hell.

237 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:36pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

I think you still have 2010 stardust in your eyes. The surge has shifted.

238 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:39pm

re: #228 jamesfirecat

Dark you're gonna need to get 20! TWENTY DEMS to overturn Obama's veto.

Do you really think you'll get those numbers?

If so, well I wish you good luck!

20 Dems to pass what? The Ryan Plan? HA! Thanks, I needed that laugh.

239 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:47pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Dear liberal,

We'll see who's laughing when the budget is passed. I'm betting it won't be you.

Veto.
Next!

240 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:55:50pm

re: #234 rwmofo

keep going, I'm loving it

241 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:56:41pm

Derp.

242 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:56:52pm

re: #227 Gus 802

Well good DF. I'm glad you're happy with a GOP budget that wants to kill Planned Parenthood and effectively neuter the EPA.

And a budget which assumes a 2.8% unemployment rate.

243 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:57:10pm

re: #221 prairiefire

The kids are watching "Raising Arizona" for the first time. It is a hit.

I'M BARREN!

244 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:57:29pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

And a budget which assumes a 2.8% unemployment rate.

In the words of the esteemed great one, Sarah Palin, W-T-F!

You betcha.

245 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:57:30pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

Putting America back to work on paper.

246 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:57:33pm

re: #243 Stanley Sea

Her womb was a barren place

where no man's seed could find purchase.

247 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:00pm

re: #228 jamesfirecat

Dark you're gonna need to get 20! TWENTY DEMS to overturn Obama's veto.

Do you really think you'll get those numbers?

If so, well I wish you good luck!

Don't need to overturn a veto, James. We just need to make a budget that Obama will pay too high a price to veto. If he's presented a decent budget and then vetoes it, he'll get slapped with the blame for any resulting shutdown. He catches that blame, and his reelection chances plummet.

248 Four More Beers  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:07pm

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

You don't know me either, saying a thing like that. And don't bring up the race card; Some members of the Tea Party are racist (the Birthers surely are), but most are not. This about the size and proper role of government, not race.

You don't know me either, saying a thing like that Actually, I do. I've read your stuff on here, and honestly, I think you have a lot of good points. You're clearly not throwing firebombs; you obviously have a position that you believe in, and I respect it. I disagree with you calling me "liberal." In the classical sense? Yes. In the modern sense, no way. I distrust BOTH sides equally. I have no animus towards you, DF. Are we straight?

249 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:09pm

The problem with the TP isn't so much race. It's goddamned dishonesty. I am sorry but I am highly skeptical of their claims to suddenly worry about the size and role of government when many of them were quiet during the Bush years when spending was just as high. As Obama pointed out the other day, many of their heroes including Ryan voted for many of the itmes that have contributed to the deficit. The deficit and spending is not a liberal or conservative, democratic or republican problem but a problem caused by presidents of both parties and the narrative the Tea Party gives is that all was just fine until Obama came in.

250 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:10pm

re: #243 Stanley Sea

I'M BARREN!

"Don't chu come back till you bring me that baby!!" I was Ed before I had my girl, truth be told.

251 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:30pm

re: #234 rwmofo

Come on babe, give us a little more GOP jizz, just a lil more

everyone, how about some updings for our kick-around boy

252 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:33pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

Veto.
Next!

I hope he has the nads to use it...something tells me he'd be petrified of an over ride

253 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:47pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Don't need to overturn a veto, James. We just need to make a budget that Obama will pay too high a price to veto. If he's presented a decent budget and then vetoes it, he'll get slapped with the blame for any resulting shutdown. He catches that blame, and his reelection chances plummet.

You mean a budget where seniors have to rely on $15,000 vouchers? You seriously expect that to pass?

254 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:58:49pm

re: #250 prairiefire

"Don't chu come back till you bring me that baby!!" I was Ed before I had my girl, truth be told.

TURN TO THE RAAGHT *click*

255 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:03pm

re: #243 Stanley Sea

I'M BARREN!

and I'm a DUKE!

256 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:07pm

Some months I get the menstrual cramps real bad.

257 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:10pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

And a budget which assumes a 2.8% unemployment rate.

A budget that assumes that, by screwing over the poor and elderly to finance yet another huge tax cut for the wealthy, we can achieve millions of new jobs annually and push the unemployment level to a point not seen since the Korean War.

In other news, the UN just announced that world peace is achievable, but the US must give us its nuclear weapons.

258 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:13pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

Veto.
Next!

Did you see how the Democratic Governor in Minesota is vetoing republican bills?

[Link: www.clicker.com...]

If the Ryan Budget comes to him, Obama is gonna use a flamethrower instead....

259 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:19pm

re: #233 albusteve

I don't dislike BO because he's black, I dislike him because he's not a Cubs fan...an unthinkable all time low for a Chicago pol...why does he hate Ernie Banks?

He's from Hyde Park, Steve. Thus he's a Sox fan, since he's South Side. I'm North Side, so like Rahm Emmanuel I'm a Cubs fan.

260 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:20pm

It's nice to see the MSM finally paying attention to this stuff...

Marilyn Davenport's Racist Birther Email: Obama's Parents Were Monkeys

Youtube Video

It's also nice to see Republicans denouncing it immediately instead of the usual obfuscation.

261 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:53pm

re: #233 albusteve

I don't dislike BO because he's black, I dislike him because he's not a Cubs fan...an unthinkable all time low for a Chicago pol...why does he hate Ernie Banks?

Bwahahahaha!

Go Cubs! (game tied at 1 in the 3rd right now)

Evening lizards!

262 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 5:59:54pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Don't need to overturn a veto, James. We just need to make a budget that Obama will pay too high a price to veto. If he's presented a decent budget and then vetoes it, he'll get slapped with the blame for any resulting shutdown. He catches that blame, and his reelection chances plummet.

Yeah you're right on that Dark.

Wake me when the Republicans come up with a decent budget.

263 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:00:02pm

re: #252 albusteve

I hope he has the nads to use it...something tells me he'd be petrified of an over ride

Override?
Fantasy.
The Ryan budget is based on unicorns and fairy dust. It makes far too many overly optimistic assumptions. Not too mention will make the deficit worse with all its tax cuts for the corps.

264 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:00:04pm

re: #248 Kid A

You don't know me either, saying a thing like that Actually, I do. I've read your stuff on here, and honestly, I think you have a lot of good points. You're clearly not throwing firebombs; you obviously have a position that you believe in, and I respect it. I disagree with you calling me "liberal." In the classical sense? Yes. In the modern sense, no way. I distrust BOTH sides equally. I have no animus towards you, DF. Are we straight?

We're straight.

265 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:00:14pm

re: #245 jaunte

Putting America back to work on paper.

LOL, really that's a goodie.

266 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:00:20pm

re: #257 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

A budget that assumes that, by screwing over the poor and elderly to finance yet another huge tax cut for the wealthy, we can achieve millions of new jobs annually and push the unemployment level to a point not seen since the Korean War.

In other news, the UN just announced that world peace is achievable, but the US must give us its nuclear weapons.

Yippee! Make the poor seniors pay so we can keep the Bush tax cuts for the rich bastards running.

God bless America!

267 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:00:27pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Don't need to overturn a veto, James. We just need to make a budget that Obama will pay too high a price to veto. If he's presented a decent budget and then vetoes it, he'll get slapped with the blame for any resulting shutdown. He catches that blame, and his reelection chances plummet.

There is nothing "decent" about the Ryan Plan. It is a political joke, one that any Democrat who votes for it will pay with his seat. No Democrat who values his seat is going to vote for it, nor anything that even closely resembles it.

268 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:00:42pm

re: #222 Kid A

I know you're immune to humor and sarcasm, but I'm laughing at these clowns that have completely overestimated their importance. Face it Falcon, if a white man was in the White House, none of this Tea Party business would even exist and you know it. And keep your "liberal" labels to yourself. You have no idea what I believe in or support.

Bullshit. Explain why those "sexist, racists" in South Carolina elected an Indian woman.

269 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:01:15pm

re: #267 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

There is nothing "decent" about the Ryan Plan. It is a political joke, one that any Democrat who votes for it will pay with his seat. No Democrat who values his seat is going to vote for it, nor anything that even closely resembles it.

I'm not sure the Republicans are really seeing the consequences of screwing with senior care like this...

270 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:01:21pm

Climate change denial, anti-science, anti-women, anti-EPA, anti-senior budget.

271 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:01:25pm

re: #268 rwmofo

Bullshit. Explain why those "sexist, racists" in South Carolina elected an Indian woman.

Awesome, thanks!

*wingsnugs*

272 Four More Beers  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:01:30pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

He's from Hyde Park, Steve. Thus he's a Sox fan, since he's South Side. I'm North Side, so like Rahm Emmanuel I'm a Cubs fan.

WHOA!!! I saw Rahm in a Sox wind breaker the other day on the Trib's website. What's up with that?

273 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:01:47pm

re: #258 jamesfirecat

Did you see how the Democratic Governor in Minesota is vetoing republican bills?

[Link: www.clicker.com...]

If the Ryan Budget comes to him, Obama is gonna use a flamethrower instead...

Then he's blamed for partisan gridlock and government shutdown. The result backlash sweeps Tim Pawlenty into the Oval Office. #winning

274 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:03pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

Then he's blamed for partisan gridlock and government shutdown. The result backlash sweeps Tim Pawlenty into the Oval Office. #winning

#vomit

275 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:15pm

Pawlenty. LOFL

276 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:27pm

Praise Jebus!

277 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:30pm

re: #187 jaunte

Unusual kid:
Seongha typically takes three days to learn and practice a new song

I do not at all mean to belittle that kid's talent, but:

He's a jukebox. Believe it or not, it isn't terribly unusual for budding musicians of that age to get a firm handle on new songs within 2 or 3 days. Technical difficulty can be overcome with practice.

What sets a jukebox kid apart from a true prodigy is not their ability to tackle technical challenges, but rather their capacity to intuitively understand stylistic nuances and incorporate that into their playing. A truly amazing young musician will grasp all of the above, but will spend more time farting around, struggling with making his own music than s/he will spend trying to craft a note-perfect rendition of "Herpty Derp" by Derp Herpleson and the Derpty Doops.

My authority for asserting this comes from having myself been a rather above-average jukebox kid who could eventually figure out how to play nearly anything put in front of him, but whose original compositions all somehow managed to sound like perverse mutations of "La Cucaracha".

278 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:35pm

re: #234 rwmofo

Let's see. I said "Can't think of anything witty to say, so throw in with the name calling. Deeep. Not."

That's acting injured and upset? Ummm, no. Apparently you've been taking distortion lessons from Rachel Maddow.

Hey, I can play your game.

Where did I say you were acting injured and upset?

Why do you spend so much time moving the goal posts?

279 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:36pm

re: #272 Kid A

WHOA!!! I saw Rahm in a Sox wind breaker the other day on the Trib's website. What's up with that?

Covert agent in enemy territory.
/

280 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:02:37pm

A very Happy 9-11Truther at a tea party...
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

281 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:03pm

re: #269 JasonA

I'm not sure the Republicans are really seeing the consequences of screwing with senior care like this...

Messing with Medicare or Medicaid would be one thing. Hell, a budget that did just that might actually get some traction, as it would be about cutting spending in order to get the budget under control. But coupling said "reform" with a 10% cut in taxes for the wealthiest, as well as the elimination of all corporate taxes? That's political seppuku, something that the Democrats will never sign on to. The GOP just sacrificed the House on the altar of their own ideology.

282 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:08pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

He's from Hyde Park, Steve. Thus he's a Sox fan, since he's South Side. I'm North Side, so like Rahm Emmanuel I'm a Cubs fan.

when one ascends to global prominence, you take the Cubs with you....no excuses....they are a national treasure where the Sox are just another club

283 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:22pm

I love a coward

284 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:26pm

re: #272 Kid A

WHOA!!! I saw Rahm in a Sox wind breaker the other day on the Trib's website. What's up with that?

It's OK to like both teams. the only time you truly have to stand with only one side is during the two Cubs/Sox series during interleague play.

285 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:50pm

re: #278 b_sharp

Hey, I can play your game.

Where did I say you were acting injured and upset?

Why do you spend so much time moving the goal posts?

You'll get further with love! Like this

286 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:53pm

re: #281 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Messing with Medicare or Medicaid would be one thing. Hell, a budget that did just that might actually get some traction, as it would be about cutting spending in order to get the budget under control. But coupling said "reform" with a 10% cut in taxes for the wealthiest, as well as the elimination of all corporate taxes? That's political seppuku, something that the Democrats will never sign on to. The GOP just sacrificed the House on the altar of their own ideology.

Do the Republicans have a ideology anymore beyond whatever the democrats like we hate?

287 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:03:54pm

re: #266 Gus 802

If you are less than 55 you get to pay full Medicare taxes until 65!


Then - (this is the great part) - you get a fucking discount coupon at 65 for your lifetime of Medicare payments!

288 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:04:29pm

re: #272 Kid A

WHOA!!! I saw Rahm in a Sox wind breaker the other day on the Trib's website. What's up with that?

He's the fan of what ever team makes his popularity get better. He took it out of Hillary's book.

289 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:04:39pm

re: #277 negativ

I wish I could have the same kind of fun. Not having that kind of ability myself, I still find it impressive.

290 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:03pm

Ah, the Partisan Patrol's in the house.

291 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:07pm

re: #287 Linden Arden

If you are less than 55 you get to pay full Medicare taxes until 65!

Then - (this is the great part) - you get a fucking discount coupon at 65 for your lifetime of Medicare payments!

Golly gee whiz. It would be worth it because all of the rich people will trickle down on me over the next 10 years. Kind of like they did after Saint Regan introduced the urinal cake of economics.

292 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:08pm

re: #268 rwmofo

Come on sweetie, lets go get some milkshakes together, you don't have to do this anymore

293 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:14pm

re: #270 Gus 802

Climate change denial, anti-science, anti-women, anti-EPA, anti-senior budget.

don't forget the gays
gay denial

294 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:22pm

re: #286 jamesfirecat

Do the Republicans have a ideology anymore beyond whatever the democrats like we hate?

Youtube Video
295 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:36pm

Shrug I never understood the Cubs/White Sox rivalry. Granted I am not from CHicago but it's different from Yankees/Red Sox or Dodgers/Giants in that before interleague ball came along the two would only play each other in Spring Training or in the case of the 1906 world series, the world series. At least Obama didn't pussyfoot and become a Nationals fan just to placate the local area here.

296 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:05:47pm

re: #282 albusteve

when one ascends to global prominence, you take the Cubs with you...no excuses...they are a national treasure where the Sox are just another club

One can, but some on the South Side are entirely Sox fans and don't root for the Cubs at all (some Cubs fans on the North Side are equally only Cubs fans, not even rooting for the Sox when the Sox won the World Series).

297 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:06:10pm

re: #268 rwmofo

Bullshit. Explain why those "sexist, racists" in South Carolina elected an Indian woman.

SC is populated solely by Tea Partiers?

298 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:06:44pm

re: #293 albusteve

don't forget the gays
gay denial

Only if it affected AIDS/HIV funding I suppose. Otherwise the GOP is frequently grumbling about bringing back DADT and bolstering DOMA.

299 rwmofo  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:07:08pm

re: #278 b_sharp

Hey, I can play your game.

Where did I say you were acting injured and upset?

Why do you spend so much time moving the goal posts?

Here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Gee, that wasn't very challenging.

300 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:07:10pm

re: #298 Gus 802

Only if it affected AIDS/HIV funding I suppose. Otherwise the GOP is frequently grumbling about bringing back DADT and bolstering DOMA.

Individual liberties! Oh wait that doesn't mean shit if you're gay.

301 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:07:25pm

re: #294 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

[Video]

Meh I still think its this Obama could offer them a flat tax especially designed to screw the poor and they'd still say he was a commie pinko...

302 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:07:28pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Shrug I never understood the Cubs/White Sox rivalry. Granted I am not from CHicago but it's different from Yankees/Red Sox or Dodgers/Giants in that before interleague ball came along the two would only play each other in Spring Training or in the case of the 1906 world series, the world series. At least Obama didn't pussyfoot and become a Nationals fan just to placate the local area here.

If he thinks it will get him a few more votes I put money on it he would wear a Nationals jacket & a hat.

303 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:07:42pm

re: #292 WindUpBird

Come on sweetie, lets go get some milkshakes together, you don't have to do this anymore


I instantly thought of this:

Youtube Video

Coincidence?

304 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:07:57pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Shrug I never understood the Cubs/White Sox rivalry. Granted I am not from CHicago but it's different from Yankees/Red Sox or Dodgers/Giants in that before interleague ball came along the two would only play each other in Spring Training or in the case of the 1906 world series, the world series. At least Obama didn't pussyfoot and become a Nationals fan just to placate the local area here.

It's just part of Chicago's history. And actually prior to interleague play the Cubs did play the Sox once a year during the regular season, but it was an exhibition game.

305 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:08:57pm

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

It's just part of Chicago's history. And actually prior to interleague play the Cubs did play the Sox once a year during the regular season, but it was an exhibition game.

I guess I just understand rivalries amongst two teams that play each other regularly. I miss hte days when the O's were good enough to have rivals. Now they're just punching bags.

306 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:09:14pm

re: #293 albusteve

who was that fundamentalist pastor that died wearing two wetsuits at once?

Maybe, just maybe if he wasn't a repressed ultraconservative pastor and he had, you know, out friends in a fetish scene who were gay and actually could hook him up with something from Dark Garden or Pretty Pervy or Honours, he'd still be with us today!

But no, repressed and conservative and Falwell and Liberty U. Repression kills!

307 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:09:42pm

re: #299 rwmofo

And yet he just won't stop! Awesome!

308 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:10:57pm

re: #280 Killgore Trout

A very Happy 9-11Truther at a tea party...
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

That one's over the top, IMO. I'm not a fan of confrontational shirts. You can't wear them most of the time, and I like to buy clothes I can wear when I want. They also normally don't come in my size.

309 Four More Beers  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:11:07pm

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

It's just part of Chicago's history. And actually prior to interleague play the Cubs did play the Sox once a year during the regular season, but it was an exhibition game.

I was there last year, and saw the Sox play the Twins (and then caught Thom Yorke that evening), and wherever I went, all anyone talked about was baseball. I was in Heaven. Great, great people.

310 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:11:28pm

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

It's just part of Chicago's history. And actually prior to interleague play the Cubs did play the Sox once a year during the regular season, but it was an exhibition game.

still waiting for the fabled Subway Series...how cool would that be?

311 MinisterO  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:11:29pm

Get with the program. It's not about the actual number of protesters who show up. It's about how much trash they leave. I thought everyone understood that by now.

312 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:11:40pm

re: #306 WindUpBird

Mobile, Alabama. One wetsuit and he selfed-himself.


Smoking Gun has all the dope.

313 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:12:01pm

re: #287 Linden Arden

If you are less than 55 you get to pay full Medicare taxes until 65!

Then - (this is the great part) - you get a fucking discount coupon at 65 for your lifetime of Medicare payments!

And the crap that the insurance companies are all going to be gung ho on insuring us with our pre-existing race to death.

314 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:12:01pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

That one's over the top, IMO. I'm not a fan of confrontational shirts. You can't wear them most of the time, and I like to buy clothes I can wear when I want. They also normally don't come in my size.

Infowars = Alex Jones = 9-11 truther.

315 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:12:04pm

re: #311 MinisterO

Get with the program. It's not about the actual number of protesters who show up. It's about how much trash they leave. I thought everyone understood that by now.

hahahahahahaha totally


LIBERALS ARE DIRTY BECAUSE THEY LEFT GARBAGE WHEN THEY COLLECTED IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

316 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:12:18pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

I guess I just understand rivalries amongst two teams that play each other regularly. I miss hte days when the O's were good enough to have rivals. Now they're just punching bags.

Well, the Cubs do also have rivalries with the Cardinals and Brewers. They used to be rivals of the Mets, but when expansion put the two teams in different divisions the rivalry faded away.

317 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:13:11pm

Here's my budget.

Withdraw from Afghanistan ASAP and repeal the Bush tax cuts for the top 2 percent earners.

Next!

318 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:13:44pm

re: #312 Linden Arden

Mobile, Alabama. One wetsuit and he selfed-himself.

Smoking Gun has all the dope.

It just bums me out that these guys are trapped in these horrible repressed lives, just lying like bastards to everyone who looks up to them, taking it out on them and manipulating them

319 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:14:09pm

re: #310 albusteve

still waiting for the fabled Subway Series...how cool would that be?

It wouldn't be cool at all. The Chicago Police Department would have to declare a curfew to curb riots, regardless of who won. People would die, Steve. The rivalry and attendant butthurt are that intense.

320 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:14:23pm

re: #317 Gus 802

Here's my budget.

Withdraw from Afghanistan ASAP and repeal the Bush tax cuts for the top 2 percent earners.

Next!

and raise the Social Security cutoff. problem fucking solved.

321 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:14:50pm

re: #317 Gus 802

Here's my budget.

Withdraw from Afghanistan ASAP and repeal the Bush tax cuts for the top 2 percent earners.

Next!

where do I sign?

322 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:14:53pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Well, the Cubs do also have rivalries with the Cardinals and Brewers. They used to be rivals of the Mets, but when expansion put the two teams in different divisions the rivalry faded away.

YEah as I said division rivalries make more sense to me than interleague ones. Like I don't get the Orioles one with the Nationals. I don't hate the Nats. In fact, I'm rather indifferent.

323 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:15:24pm

re: #320 WindUpBird

and raise the Social Security cutoff. problem fucking solved.

OK Yeah. Rich people shouldn't have a need to collect SS. If things change later in retirement then they can get that dough.

324 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:15:30pm

re: #317 Gus 802

Here's my budget.

Withdraw from Afghanistan ASAP and repeal the Bush tax cuts for the top 2 percent earners.

Next!

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

325 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:16:00pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

Too much, DF.

326 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:16:12pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

It wouldn't be cool at all. The Chicago Police Department would have to declare a curfew to curb riots, regardless of who won. People would die, Steve. The rivalry and attendant butthurt are that intense.

what a buzzkill, it's not like burning a Koran

327 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:16:45pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

That's not a realistic proposition. Would you take one MOAB on the Gaddafi compound?

328 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:17:03pm

re: #299 rwmofo

Here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Gee, that wasn't very challenging.

Reread that comment and what you'll see is me suggesting you not act upset if you choose to name call and receive the same, not me claiming you were acting upset.

329 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:17:37pm

re: #318 WindUpBird

What about the poor Tennessee lady who felt she had to blow the brains out of her pastor/husband a couple of years ago?

Then she ran to the panhandle with her kids?


Sad. Sad. so sad............

330 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:17:47pm

That's because the Taliban comes from Afghanistan.

// //

331 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:17:53pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

Ah, no.

332 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:18:03pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

DF why should we be even more murderous than the Soviets or Taliban?

333 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:18:14pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

and yet you discount a Cubs/Sox series because it may inspire violence?...let me think about this

334 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:18:19pm

I've been want to post this article, and now I'm going to do so:

Paul Ryan vs. the Mythmakers

Ramesh Ponnuru

If you’ve been following the debate over the House Republican budget proposed by Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan, you have probably heard that it savagely cuts programs for the poor in order to fund tax cuts for the rich, that its numbers don’t add up, and that in the short run it expands the deficits. These claims, though asserted confidently, either depend on highly contestable assumptions or are demonstrably untrue.

• David Frum writes in The Week that Ryan’s “debt reduction plan actually increases the debt over the medium term — by even more [than] President Obama’s budget would.”

The CBO’s actual projections for the Ryan plan show a debt level in 2021 that is $4.7 trillion lower than its projections for Obama’s budgets. Ryan’s plan is designed to rapidly stabilize federal debt as a share of the economy: That percentage peaks in year three and then starts falling. The CBO projections for Obama’s budgets just show the number rising higher and higher over the decade.

•“In fact, the [Congressional Budget Office] finds that over the next decade the [Ryan] plan would lead to bigger deficits and more debt than current law,” writes Paul Krugman in the New York Times.

What Krugman doesn’t mention is that current law includes automatic tax increases, including middle-class tax increases that both parties have consistently said they want to avoid. Current law includes cuts in payments to Medicare providers that both parties oppose and have acted against in the past. It includes the expansion of the Alternative Minimum Tax to hit more and more middle-class taxpayers, which — well, you get the idea. Krugman is comparing the Ryan plan with an alternative that is both unrealistic and much more painful than he lets on.

335 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:03pm

re: #332 wlewisiii

DF why should we be even more murderous than the Soviets or Taliban?

///Because that's hhow you get the high score...

336 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:19pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

It wouldn't be cool at all. The Chicago Police Department would have to declare a curfew to curb riots, regardless of who won. People would die, Steve. The rivalry and attendant butthurt are that intense.

this is why I'll never understand Chicago

To place all this faith and violence into sports is just animalistic and embarrassing.

I like a baseball game, I saw Mariners games as a kid. It's a pasttime, it's fun. I like Ichiro. I've almost got a crush on Ichiro.

These idiot fucks who just scream like children and yell and throw batteries at players, arrest them, throw them in jail for a couple months, and most importantly, ban a few of them for life from any sports arena on pain of a prison sentence, they'll fucking clean their dumb obssessed jock sports act up.

I've never wanted to toss a man to his death like a disgusting baseball freak

just one little nudge and down he goes into the box seats from the bleachers

yeah, forgot all about that guy, I think I was 11 at the time. i remember me and my friends had a long discussion of how to "help" him down to his doom

Hopefully he's no longer with us

337 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:27pm

re: #333 albusteve

and yet you discount a Cubs/Sox series because it may inspire violence?...let me think about this

American violence is more, uh, important I guess.

338 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:40pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

Because killing all the children in Afghanistan is good why?

Seriously, Dark. What the fuck are you thinking, writing something like that?

339 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:45pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

You're kind of a psycho sometimes, Dark Falcon.

340 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:49pm

American Ying and Yang[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]

341 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:19:53pm

re: #331 prairiefire

Ah, no.

I'm assuming he just said that in jest.

342 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:20:17pm

re: #334 Dark_Falcon

I've been want to post this article, and now I'm going to do so:

Paul Ryan vs. the Mythmakers

Ramesh Ponnuru

Does it have anything to respond to the myth that Ryand pulled a 2.8 unemployment number right out of his a**?

343 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:20:27pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

If we also nuke Afghanistan nine shades past reality, you've got a deal.

Now that is a fucking warped and idiotic statement.

Please tell me you were being sarcastic.

344 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:20:35pm

re: #336 WindUpBird

Battery Chucks!

345 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:20:42pm

re: #334 Dark_Falcon

How accurate do you think that article is, and why?

346 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:20:44pm

Sorry Dark Falcon, you've driven me off LGF for today.

Take my advice, please stop saying retarded bullshit like that

347 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:21:26pm

re: #341 Gus 802

I'm assuming he just said that in jest.

well then jestfully I say, nuke the Eagles....I hate those guys

348 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:21:38pm

re: #332 wlewisiii

No. I wasn't really serious about that. Most Afghans aren't the problem. if we were to leave, though, I would let it be known that if the US is again attacked by terrorists based out of Afghanistan, the area the terrorists came from will be subject to non-precision bombardment. That would address our real concern.

349 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:22:18pm

re: #347 albusteve

well then jestfully I say, nuke the Eagles...I hate those guys

Shit, throwing snowballs at Santa.
Jerks.
No Mercy!

350 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:22:42pm

re: #338 Obdicut

Because killing all the children in Afghanistan is good why?

Seriously, Dark. What the fuck are you thinking, writing something like that?

I didn't think. I'm going to report the comment and ask Charles to delete it.

351 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:23:12pm

re: #337 Stanley Sea

American violence is more, uh, important I guess.

Violence at American sporting events is much less than what goes on in other countries. There will be some idiots who act like assholes after drinking way too much beer but mostly the fans are pretty tame in comparison to, lets say, soccer fans?

352 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:23:14pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

No. I wasn't really serious about that. Most Afghans aren't the problem. if we were to leave, though, I would let it be known that if the US is again attacked by terrorists based out of Afghanistan, the area the terrorists came from will be subject to non-precision bombardment. That would address our real concern.

no, we should just leave, forget the bravado and split

353 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:23:44pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

No. I wasn't really serious about that. Most Afghans aren't the problem. if we were to leave, though, I would let it be known that if the US is again attacked by terrorists based out of Afghanistan, the area the terrorists came from will be subject to non-precision bombardment. That would address our real concern.

Kinda like how the Marist Brothers at my old high school would keep us all after school if the guy who fired the spitball didn't fess up. Just with cluster bombs.

354 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:23:56pm

re: #351 NJDhockeyfan

Violence at American sporting events is much less than what goes on in other countries. There will be some idiots who act like assholes after drinking way too much beer but mostly the fans are pretty tame in comparison to, lets say, soccer fans?

True that.

355 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:23:56pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

No. I wasn't really serious about that. Most Afghans aren't the problem. if we were to leave, though, I would let it be known that if the US is again attacked by terrorists based out of Afghanistan, the area the terrorists came from will be subject to non-precision bombardment. That would address our real concern.

Lets also make sure they're still occupying that area they "came from" first obviously...

356 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:24:45pm

re: #353 JasonA

Kinda like how the Marist Brothers at my old high school would keep us all after school if the guy who fired the spitball didn't fess up. Just with cluster bombs.

Yes like that. No bravado, just let it be known that we won't tolerate attacks on us.

357 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:24:47pm

re: #349 Varek Raith

Shit, throwing snowballs at Santa.
Jerks.
No Mercy!

they also stood and cheered when M Irvin was hauled off the field with a broken back....those assholes really are merciless, I've been there and know Eagles fans

358 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:26:42pm

re: #355 jamesfirecat

Lets also make sure they're still occupying that area they "came from" first obviously...

No, that we would not do. If a town harbored the camp from which the terrorists came, then that town gets blasted even if the terrorists have left. The people are required to keep the terrorists out. If the terrorists kill them, then they should have thought about that when we offered to help them.

359 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:26:43pm

My weird-shit-o-metre just pegged.

360 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:27:07pm

re: #357 albusteve

they also stood and cheered when M Irvin was hauled off the field with a broken back...those assholes really are merciless, I've been there and know Eagles fans

I saw the Cowboys play the Eagles in Philly in 1980. Those fans are complete assholes. I hate them with a passion.

361 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:27:07pm

re: #357 albusteve

they also stood and cheered when M Irvin was hauled off the field with a broken back...those assholes really are merciless, I've been there and know Eagles fans

Damn!

362 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:27:08pm

Palin, Breitbart, and Derp on the same page? It's time for some antidote.

Youtube Video

That's just fucking cute.

363 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:27:35pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

No, that we would not do. If a town harbored the camp from which the terrorists came, then that town gets blasted even if the terrorists have left. The people are required to keep the terrorists out. If the terrorists kill them, then they should have thought about that when we offered to help them.

not gonna happen...a hawks wet dream

364 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:27:39pm

re: #356 Dark_Falcon

Yes like that. No bravado, just let it be known that we won't tolerate attacks on us.

It's been nine and a half years. Bin Laden's still a free man.

365 b_snark  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:27:55pm

BBL

366 MinisterO  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:28:01pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Dear liberal,

We'll see who's laughing when the budget is passed. I'm betting it won't be you.

Well, liberals should be happy when the Republican House passes a budget de-funding the Departments of Energy and Education, the ACA, the EPA, Planned Parenthood and PBS.

That will save 0.3% of the eventual increase in taxes on corporations and the wealthy, and surely their gratitude will manifest itself in increased wages for union members.

367 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:28:05pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

No, that we would not do. If a town harbored the camp from which the terrorists came, then that town gets blasted even if the terrorists have left. The people are required to keep the terrorists out. If the terrorists kill them, then they should have thought about that when we offered to help them.

Do you realize this would result in the death of women and children?

368 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:28:06pm

re: #353 JasonA

Kinda like how the Marist Brothers at my old high school would keep us all after school if the guy who fired the spitball didn't fess up. Just with cluster bombs.

Speaking of cluster bombs. Shit is horrible in Libya right now. Following Andy Carvin's twitter feed.

369 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:28:15pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

No. I wasn't really serious about that. Most Afghans aren't the problem. if we were to leave, though, I would let it be known that if the US is again attacked by terrorists based out of Afghanistan, the area the terrorists came from will be subject to non-precision bombardment. That would address our real concern.

And Pakistan and Yemen. Most originating from Saudi Arabia. Sorry, but we've have 10 long years to oust the Taliban and AQ. We've spent and are spending far too much money to oust so called extremists in a region that is normally populated with extremism such as those we would find in Pakistan. 10 years and now we're spending an astronomical sum of 6 billion dollars a month only to get revenge for the 911 attack because when push comes to shove American's don't give a crap about the Afghan people.

370 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:28:18pm

re: #362 darthstar

What is a "derp"?

371 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:28:40pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

I saw the Cowboys play the Eagles in Philly in 1980. Those fans are complete assholes. I hate them with a passion.

me too...if hate were a country, I'd be China

372 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:29:01pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

No, that we would not do. If a town harbored the camp from which the terrorists came, then that town gets blasted even if the terrorists have left. The people are required to keep the terrorists out. If the terrorists kill them, then they should have thought about that when we offered to help them.

Dark that's easy for you to say and easy for you to support.

But how would you feel if Religious Christian Fundamentalists from America attacked a target in some European country.

Should they have the right to bomb the American town that those people were based in?


I'm probably drawing a false equivalency hear I will admit that. But I'm not 100% sure that I am. So please help me by telling me how I'm wrong.

373 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:29:36pm

re: #370 Linden Arden

What is a "derp"?

From urbandictionary,

A simple, undefined reply when an ignorant comment or action is made. Brought to life in the South Park series, when Mr. Derp made a guest apperance at South Park Elementary as the chef for a day, followed by hitting himself in the head with a hammer and exclaiming "Derp!"
374 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:29:44pm

re: #362 darthstar

Palin, Breitbart, and Derp on the same page? It's time for some antidote.

[Video]That's just fucking cute.

I want one!

375 jvic  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:29:45pm

re: #332 wlewisiii

DF why should we be even more murderous than the Soviets or Taliban?

Words like 'nuke' and 'murderous' aside, it remains true that the Taliban sheltered bin Laden. Therefore, I don't see how we can walk away and let them take over again. I question the credibility of any parting threats we might make; barring terrorism orders of magnitude greater than 9/11, I question the willingness of our government to implement such threats. Otoh, I'm at a loss as to what to do.

376 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:29:50pm

And frankly. I'm tired of the propaganda we keep getting from CENTCOM and the so called "war bloggers". It's over. Time to pack our bags and leave. We were supposed to leave this year.

377 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:30:54pm

Driving home today I got to drive through a torrential storm of heavy rain, hail, wicked wind, and lightening all over. I swear I was waiting for a tornado to show up. I love spring every year except for this part.

378 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:31:00pm

re: #367 Obdicut

Do you realize this would result in the death of women and children?

Yes, I do. I can't figure out any policy to deter terrorist havens that doesn't involve either long-term occupation or a 'collective responsibility' policy. If you've got another idea, I'm listening.

379 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:31:13pm

re: #364 JasonA

It's been nine and a half years. Bin Laden's still a free man.

He's dead, Jim.

380 Linden Arden  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:31:35pm

re: #373 Varek Raith

Thank you! The Urban Dictionary rules!

381 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:31:52pm

re: #366 MinisterO

Well, liberals should be happy when the Republican House passes a budget de-funding the Departments of Energy and Education, the ACA, the EPA, Planned Parenthood and PBS.

That will save 0.3% of the eventual increase in taxes on corporations and the wealthy, and surely their gratitude will manifest itself in increased wages for union members.

What should be cut then?

382 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:31:55pm

re: #370 Linden Arden

What is a "derp"?

It's that multi-chinned fucktard Charles links to occasionally.

383 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:33:19pm

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I do. I can't figure out any policy to deter terrorist havens that doesn't involve either long-term occupation or a 'collective responsibility' policy. If you've got another idea, I'm listening.

that policy would hardly deter any terrorists...they slaughter each other at an alarming pace, what makes you think another village has any value beyond the obvious propaganda?

384 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:33:26pm

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I do. I can't figure out any policy to deter terrorist havens that doesn't involve either long-term occupation or a 'collective responsibility' policy. If you've got another idea, I'm listening.

Your policy wouldn't do anything to deter terrorists. It would encourage them.

You know the Soviet history in Afghanistan, and yet you still say these things. Why?

385 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:33:31pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

I didn't think. I'm going to report the comment and ask Charles to delete it.

OK, you asked. The answer is no.

If you didn't mean to say that, explain what you did mean to say.

386 celticdragon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:33:42pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

Here's the money quote...

""Atlas Shrugged," a mega-fable that is to capitalists roughly what "To Kill a Mockingbird" is to liberals"

Can anyone... anywhere make ANY sense out of that?

Apparently, only liberals care about books that deal with violent racists...and conservatives like fantasies about letting thousands, even millions of ordinary people die because only idiots believe in altruism and the highest moral order is "fuck you... I've got mine, bee-yotch!"

387 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:34:04pm

re: #379 NJDhockeyfan

He's dead, Jim.

he's alive as much as he's dead

388 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:34:54pm

I wish these dim wits would try a rally like that here. Talk about a unifying force: anarchists, Palestinians, peace activists, garden variety socialists, communists, greens, Critical Mass, liberal Zionists, etc.

389 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:35:29pm

re: #387 albusteve

he's alive as much as he's dead

He's alive in the bellies of incests who enjoyed him as a meal.

390 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:35:55pm

re: #368 Stanley Sea

Speaking of cluster bombs. Shit is horrible in Libya right now. Following Andy Carvin's twitter feed.

The best to hope for is weeks more fighting rather than months, but who knows.

391 celticdragon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:36:18pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

No, that we would not do. If a town harbored the camp from which the terrorists came, then that town gets blasted even if the terrorists have left. The people are required to keep the terrorists out. If the terrorists kill them, then they should have thought about that when we offered to help them.

That is also known as a war crime.

The willful and deliberate killing of non combatants (especially revenge killing that you advocate) is murder.

You are better then that, Dark.

392 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:36:25pm

re: #389 NJDhockeyfan

He's alive in the bellies of incests who enjoyed him as a meal.

He's not dead until I find his grave and drop a deuce on it.

393 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:36:44pm

re: #388 eclectic infidel

I wish these dim wits would try a rally like that here. Talk about a unifying force: anarchists, Palestinians, peace activists, garden variety socialists, communists, greens, Critical Mass, liberal Zionists, etc.

Aren't they usually protesting together in California?

394 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:36:55pm

re: #385 Charles

OK, you asked. The answer is no.

If you didn't mean to say that, explain what you did mean to say.

I was annoyed at the whole Afghanistan situation and I posted without thinking.

I'm not a fan of killing, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to bring things to a close in such a way as to note invite future terrorist attacks. I was trying to think of a way to deter terrorism, but I think I went over the line in so doing.

395 MinisterO  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:37:38pm

Does anyone realize what happens when you cut taxes for people like me? Well it just happened so I'll tell you.

First the extra money accumulates in the bank. Then I transfer it into my brokerage account, where it sits until I get around to investing it. Eventually I put in a buy order for an equity. My bid slightly increases the price of said equity. No jobs are produced. No present-time economic activity ensues.

Someday, in the distant future, I'll cash out and spend the money, but in terms of stimulating the economy, there's no bang for the buck.

396 BongCrodny  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:38:00pm

re: #389 NJDhockeyfan

He's alive in the bellies of incests who enjoyed him as a meal.


Freudian slip?

397 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:38:21pm

re: #396 BongCrodny

Freudian slip?

Heh.

398 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:38:26pm

re: #382 darthstar

It's that multi-chinned fucktard Charles links to occasionally.

Gateway Pundit, blogger. He looks like a peeled mouse.

399 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:38:28pm

re: #395 MinisterO

Does anyone realize what happens when you cut taxes for people like me? Well it just happened so I'll tell you.

First the extra money accumulates in the bank. Then I transfer it into my brokerage account, where it sits until I get around to investing it. Eventually I put in a buy order for an equity. My bid slightly increases the price of said equity. No jobs are produced. No present-time economic activity ensues.

Someday, in the distant future, I'll cash out and spend the money, but in terms of stimulating the economy, there's no bang for the buck.

Jobs on paper.

400 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:39:07pm

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

I was annoyed at the whole Afghanistan situation and I posted without thinking.

I'm not a fan of killing, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to bring things to a close in such a way as to note invite future terrorist attacks. I was trying to think of a way to deter terrorism, but I think I went over the line in so doing.

Next time we intend to invade a country we need to f***ing invade it like we did with Germany and Japan.

If we're going to do "nation building" we should do it from the ground up, and keep the country as an occupied region for around a decade with us running things from the top down.

I think we handed over power to the locals too soon in Afghanistan, and possibly in Iraq also in regards to creating the most effective government possible.

401 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:40:05pm

And in the interest of balance on the Ryan budget, I offer the following:

Magical Health-Care Savings
Paul Ryan’s plan is a step forward, but its projections of health spending are too optimistic.
Josh Barro

One of the key Republican criticisms of last year’s health-care law—the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or PPACA—was that its Medicare cuts were so aggressive as to be illusory. Skittish future Congresses would surely repeal these cuts, Republicans argued, so PPACA would wind up widening the federal budget gap despite the Congressional Budget Office’s rosy projections. But this year, both House Republicans and President Obama are advancing budget plans that rely on Medicare costs’ growing even more slowly than they would under PPACA. Their proposals are thus vulnerable to the same criticism. Congressman Paul Ryan, who has led the House effort, has offered a plan that makes clear the difficult choices that lie ahead and that includes some positive structural changes to Medicare and Medicaid. But his budget’s projections rely on an assumption that we can spend far less money than we had planned to run both programs—and those savings are too ambitious to be plausible under the reforms he proposes.

The most discussed part of Ryan’s proposal is his plan to convert Medicare from its traditional form to a “premium-support model” for people currently under 55. These people would receive government assistance to pay part of a premium for a health-insurance plan purchased through a federal exchange. Crucially, the value of this subsidy would grow only as quickly as the Consumer Price Index—even though CPI growth is generally expected to be about 2 percent, while per-capita health-care spending is expected to rise by 5 percent to 6 percent annually. As health-care costs rise faster than inflation, seniors would have to pay out of pocket for a greater share of their health costs each year, or consume less health care.

This premium-support model, however, wouldn’t begin until 2022. Before then, Ryan proposes to spend $389 billion less on Medicare through 2021 than the president’s budget proposal would. But Ryan’s budget, like the president’s, would keep the Medicare cuts from PPACA—the same ones that, Republicans complain, are wishful thinking. And both budgets would also make the “doc fix,” a rise in physician-reimbursement rates that Congress regularly implements.

Where, then, would Ryan’s $389 billion come from? He doesn’t advance a specific plan, though Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles made some suggestions in their report late last year that he could adopt. These include lower physician-reimbursement rates, mandatory rebates from pharmaceutical companies, and higher co-payments and deductibles. They also include tort reform, which Ryan’s plan does call for, and which Simpson and Bowles estimate would cut Medicare spending by $64 billion over ten years. These steps, though, would meet stiff political resistance. And Ryan’s proposal involves repealing some of the key cost-saving features of PPACA—the Independent Payment Advisory Board and the “Cadillac tax” on high-cost health plans—and doesn’t lay out a new agenda for cost control.

402 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:40:29pm

re: #395 MinisterO

Meanwhile we're setting new Scrooge McDuck money bin records.

Still lacking the confidence to spend at normal levels, businesses have stockpiled nearly $1.9 trillion in cash, a record, the US government said on Thursday.

Cash now accounts for 13 per cent of corporate assets, the highest share since 1984. Economists say the surest way to reduce unemployment would be for companies to spend more of that cash to expand and hire.
[Link: www.nzherald.co.nz...]

403 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:40:35pm

re: #393 NJDhockeyfan

Aren't they usually protesting together in California?

It depends on the kind of rally. Zionists of any shade are never welcome, and true blue peace activists tend to concern themselves with anti-war issues rather than let's bash the Jewish state issues. Pro-labor rallies don't tend to attract the wannabe Jihadi kids, nor the whiny Palestinian contingent that tends to show up at ANSWER rallies. Although I should mention that Zionists do show up at such rallies, but we don't advertise our presence.

404 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:40:39pm

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

I was annoyed at the whole Afghanistan situation and I posted without thinking.

I'm not a fan of killing, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to bring things to a close in such a way as to note invite future terrorist attacks. I was trying to think of a way to deter terrorism, but I think I went over the line in so doing.

How to bring it to a close--Leave on a jet plane.

How to not invite terrorist attacks--Forget it, you can't. The world is a dangerous place, and will remain so if we're lucky.

405 celticdragon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:40:39pm

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

I was annoyed at the whole Afghanistan situation and I posted without thinking.

I'm not a fan of killing, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to bring things to a close in such a way as to note invite future terrorist attacks. I was trying to think of a way to deter terrorism, but I think I went over the line in so doing.

Roman style decimation can be effective, but it requires one to be a consummate tyrant and a monster. If you stare into the abyss too long, it stares back...and all that jazz.

406 BongCrodny  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:40:43pm

re: #397 NJDhockeyfan

Heh.


I'm not usually a spelling cop, but I have a hard time resisting when it results in something unexpected.

407 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:41:35pm

re: #400 jamesfirecat

Afghanistan is way older than the two of you.

408 Interesting Times  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:41:40pm

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

What should be cut then?

Factory-farm subsidies, bloated weapons programs the Pentagon doesn't want, and other forms of corporate welfare.

409 MinisterO  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:42:00pm

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

What should be cut then?

How about something that amounts to a significant chunk of the budget?

410 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:42:30pm

Lefty loser Ralph Schoenman talking about Bahrain:

"Riyadh Is, In Fact, Occupying Bahrain... The Bodies of Youths... Are Being Returned To Their Families With Their Organs Missing" Like "The Israeli Armed Forces Were Doing In Gaza and Other Place With Palestinian Prisoners"

411 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:42:40pm

re: #400 jamesfirecat

In Afghanistan, you're clearly right. Iraq looks like it'll be functional, so we didn't lose, but supporting Karzai ranks right up there with ignoring effect of the attack on the Golden Mosque on the list of boneheaded mistakes made in this war.

412 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:43:15pm

re: #400 jamesfirecat

Next time we intend to invade a country we need to f***ing invade it like we did with Germany and Japan.

If we're going to do "nation building" we should do it from the ground up, and keep the country as an occupied region for around a decade with us running things from the top down.

I think we handed over power to the locals too soon in Afghanistan, and possibly in Iraq also in regards to creating the most effective government possible.

Agreed, this "nation building on the cheap" BS did us no favors and likely ensured that Iraq and Afghanistan will be problems for us for years to come. One thing we insured with Germany and Japan was that all traces of the old regime was gone, that it could not rise back to power and take things back over once we'd turned the reins over to the new government. We went so far in Japan as to insist on a new constitution that expressly forbid the sort of government we'd just defeated. And we most certainly did not allow either nation to enshrine a religion or declare said religion to be the basis of all law.

And, in the end, Germany and Japan both came out better for our effort. I don't see that happening in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

413 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:43:53pm

re: #411 Dark_Falcon

Iraq has enshrined Sharia law in their constitution.

Not a huge win, really.

414 MinisterO  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:44:06pm

re: #412 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds


And, in the end, Germany and Japan both came out better for our effort. I don't see that happening in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

This. This x 1000.

415 celticdragon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:44:47pm

Anyways, just in for a moment. had a lovely (if muddy and windy) day at the Loch Norman Highland Games just north of Charlotte, NC. The storm blew us a bit, but nothing too bad. The afternoon was sunny and glorious. Bought a great Paul Revere style tin lantern for our Rev War kit, and found a source for some 42nd Highlander Black Watch wool tartan fabric at 25 bucks a yard (all wool, not a blend).

Tomorrow is calculus homework and catching up on carbonate thin sections lab for petrology. Meh.

Have a good night, scaly friends!

416 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:46:05pm

re: #413 Obdicut

Iraq has enshrined Sharia law in their constitution.

Not a huge win, really.

At least we're keeping it out of Oklahoma...

417 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:46:52pm

re: #412 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And, in the end, Germany and Japan both came out better for our effort. I don't see that happening in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Really? Iraq is certainly better off now than under Saddam. Even at the hieght of the insurgency at least they had the freedom to kill each other.
Afghanistan is yet to be seen but I suspect most of the population is happy that the Taliban is no longer in charge and beheading people in soccer stadiums.

418 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:46:54pm

re: #415 celticdragon

In Loch Norman weather, caber is tossing you.

419 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:47:09pm

re: #411 Dark_Falcon

In Afghanistan, you're clearly right. Iraq looks like it'll be functional, so we didn't lose, but supporting Karzai ranks right up there with ignoring effect of the attack on the Golden Mosque on the list of boneheaded mistakes made in this war.

Nope. There was a massacre by the Iraqi forces this week. We all didn't pay attention.

[Link: www.boston.com...]

420 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:47:18pm

re: #413 Obdicut

Iraq has enshrined Sharia law in their constitution.

Not a huge win, really.

I honestly think that's going to end up being the downfall of the new government, as strongmen like al-Sadr look for means with Sharia law to call the government into question and build support amongst the faithful to see it knocked down.

421 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:48:05pm

as for Pakistan...somewhere in the chain of events, disable their nukes....then pack up and leave both countries to their fate...hunker down and pick off a few stragglers, but pull out combat troops...it has to be this way

422 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:48:26pm

re: #413 Obdicut

Iraq has enshrined Sharia law in their constitution.

Not a huge win, really.

They have but are the courts convicting homosexuals, adulterers and rape victims to death? I haven't seen any reports.

423 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:48:49pm

re: #417 Killgore Trout

Really? Iraq is certainly better off now than under Saddam. Even at the hieght of the insurgency at least they had the freedom to kill each other.
Afghanistan is yet to be seen but I suspect most of the population is happy that the Taliban is no longer in charge and beheading people in soccer stadiums.

Iraq being better than it was under Saddam is setting the bar pretty low if you ask me.

It's the old famous "if you pull a knife that's been driven a foot in halfway out you're making progress.... but the guy still has knife six inches in his back."

Iraq is doing better yes. But it is doing well?

424 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:49:31pm

Well, GP has 22 comments on crazy Andy's "Go to Hell" comments. RedState had a purge about three weeks ago and now average about 46 comments per post.
"Hello?" echo echo echo

425 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:50:51pm

re: #421 albusteve

as for Pakistan...somewhere in the chain of events, disable their nukes...then pack up and leave both countries to their fate...hunker down and pick off a few stragglers, but pull out combat troops...it has to be this way

Seriously. I just crunched some numbers. At the rate we're going it would take another 36 years to kill of the rest of the Taliban and insurgents. This isn't taking other factors into account like replacement of Taliban and insurgents through natural population growth.

426 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:51:04pm

re: #424 prairiefire

Well, GP has 22 comments on crazy Andy's "Go to Hell" comments. RedState had a purge about three weeks ago and now average about 46 comments per post.
"Hello?" echo echo echo

Who got purged?

427 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:52:07pm

re: #423 jamesfirecat

Iraq being better than it was under Saddam is setting the bar pretty low if you ask me.

It's the old famous "if you pull a knife that's been driven a foot in halfway out you're making progress... but the guy still has knife six inches in his back."

Iraq is doing better yes. But it is doing well?

Doing better than much of the rest of the region. There have been some protests but nothing that looks like Egypt, Syria, Libya, etc. The people are free to protest but they are free. In that region it's quite an accomplishment.

428 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:52:53pm

re: #417 Killgore Trout

Really? Iraq is certainly better off now than under Saddam. Even at the hieght of the insurgency at least they had the freedom to kill each other.
Afghanistan is yet to be seen but I suspect most of the population is happy that the Taliban is no longer in charge and beheading people in soccer stadiums.

Iraq's government is still fragile, composed of factions that care less about keeping the nation stable and more about seizing control for themselves, al-Sadr being at the top of the list. And Iran is no doubt working in the shadows, bankrolling such efforts in the hope that they can get a hold of Iraq's oil reserves.

Afghanistan is pretty much a dictatorship now, with Karzai leveraging our desire to keep a "pro-US" leader in power as a means of keeping his office. But even he's already started planning for the long game, looking to negotiate with the Taliban remnant to support his rule after we leave. He's reliant on our continued presence, without which the Taliban will just move in, knock him over, and set up shop again.

429 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:53:12pm

I'm still giggling over the Democrats voting present yesterday...Huffpo says they "punked" the GOP. Feels good to exercise your right to protect America, doesn't it, Democrats?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

430 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:53:28pm

re: #417 Killgore Trout

I think the Taliban have many supporters there. It dissolves into tribal lines that I don't think we understand.
Also, there is a lot of opium. It's crazy land over there.

431 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:53:55pm

re: #417 Killgore Trout

Really? Iraq is certainly better off now than under Saddam. Even at the hieght of the insurgency at least they had the freedom to kill each other.
Afghanistan is yet to be seen but I suspect most of the population is happy that the Taliban is no longer in charge and beheading people in soccer stadiums.

Public beheadings and such like our "allies" the Saudis do? Well, at least we're morally consistent.

//

432 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:54:08pm

re: #429 darthstar

I'm still giggling over the Democrats voting present yesterday...Huffpo says they "punked" the GOP. Feels good to exercise your right to protect America, doesn't it, Democrats?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

If the GOP hadn't caught on in time, they'd be seriously up shit creek right now.

433 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:55:14pm

Speaking of which...

Image: handshake300.jpg

Yeah, it's an old gig I know.

434 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:55:43pm

re: #429 darthstar

I'm still giggling over the Democrats voting present yesterday...Huffpo says they "punked" the GOP. Feels good to exercise your right to protect America, doesn't it, Democrats?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

HuffPo is a cesspool of hate and anti-Semitism. Who gives a fuck what they think?

435 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:57:23pm

Gays in Iraq terrorized by threats, rape, murder - CNN
Jul 24, 2008 ... Kamal was just 16 when gunmen snatched him off the streets of Baghdad, stuffed him in the trunk of a car and whisked him away to a house.

Iraq's Newly Open Gays Face Scorn and Murder - NYTimes.com
Apr 7, 2009 ... In a country that remains religious and conservative, the response to a gay subculture has been swift and deadly.

436 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:57:39pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

Who got purged?

Vassar Bushmills, Penguin2, ladyimactohio. Several more. They had a recommend/front page syndicate going and when confronted about it, Vassar "threatened the management."

437 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:58:06pm

The USA invaded Iraq and got rid of Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis lived happily ever after.

//

438 albusteve  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:58:15pm

re: #425 Gus 802

Seriously. I just crunched some numbers. At the rate we're going it would take another 36 years to kill of the rest of the Taliban and insurgents. This isn't taking other factors into account like replacement of Taliban and insurgents through natural population growth.

the Talis will live forever, excluding total occupation....they cannot be defeated otherwise

439 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:59:12pm

re: #437 Gus 802

The USA invaded Iraq and got rid of Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis lived happily ever after.

//

We invades Iraq to steal their oil!

440 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:59:33pm

re: #429 darthstar

They also hate on Israel over there and host anti-vaxers. HuffPo is a font of Bad Craziness.

441 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 6:59:53pm

re: #439 NJDhockeyfan

We invades Iraq to steal their oil!

We didn't do a very good job of that.

/

442 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:00:29pm

re: #436 prairiefire

Vassar Bushmills, Penguin2, ladyimactohio. Several more. They had a recommend/front page syndicate going and when confronted about it, Vassar "threatened the management."

Have things gotten less hateful at RedState since the purge?

443 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:00:43pm

Soriano hits a HR! Cubs up 3-1 now.

Nice :)

444 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:01:20pm

re: #440 Dark_Falcon

They also hate on Israel over there and host anti-vaxers. HuffPo is a font of Bad Craziness.

That's putting it mildly.

445 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:03:04pm

OT but re: #435 Gus 802

Gays in Iraq terrorized by threats, rape, murder - CNN
Jul 24, 2008 ... Kamal was just 16 when gunmen snatched him off the streets of Baghdad, stuffed him in the trunk of a car and whisked him away to a house.

Iraq's Newly Open Gays Face Scorn and Murder - NYTimes.com
Apr 7, 2009 ... In a country that remains religious and conservative, the response to a gay subculture has been swift and deadly.

It's haunting to me since I know exactly what I was doing on 7-24-08. Really, while I think this country has a lot to grow on when it comes to treatment of gays, the way much of the rest of the world treats gays is barbaric as hell. There is no reason at all why gay and lesbian citizens shouldn't be treated with dignity and have the right to be happy with who they are without fear of harassment and violence.

446 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:03:33pm

Or. Instead of being completely dour about things...

In Iraq, Bottoms Up for Democracy

BAGHDAD — Tariq Harb, who was a military attorney under Saddam Hussein and is now a constitutional lawyer and television talking head, was happy to see the liquor flowing again at the Iraqi Writers Union’s outdoor cafe. But many other Iraqis aren’t. “There are people who want to kill me because I drink,” he said, shuffling prayer beads at the cafe. “We are fighting the religious educators, the imams, the preachers, who are extremists.”

So goes the struggle to define Iraq’s emergent democracy and whether it can balance religion and secularism. If the issue of liquor offers any clues, the effort remains a work in progress.

In January, bars and clubs, including the Writers Union, were raided in what many Iraqis saw as a government move toward a stricter interpretation of Islamic law. The author of the ban on alcohol was the head of the Baghdad Provincial Council, Kamil al-Zaidi, who told The New York Times, “We are a Muslim country, and everyone must respect that.”

But soon after, as protests for reform began about other issues, the boozy haunts were allowed to reopen. And since then, Baghdad has seen a surprising renaissance of its night life.

It hasn’t been the only sign here this year of a tilt away from Islam, and toward a more expansive view of personal freedoms. The new education minister reopened art and music classes that the previous minister had banned. An attempt to require female government employees to wear a veil was blocked in Parliament. Even Moqtada al-Sadr, the anti-American cleric, responded to France’s ban on full-face veils for women with a statement that sounded remarkably like an embrace of democratic tolerance: “According to Muslim law, it is not an obligation to wear the hijab, but to ban it by law is a repression of freedom. Forcing women to wear the hijab, or not to wear it, both are unacceptable.”

Continues.

447 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:04:38pm

re: #445 HappyWarrior

OT but

It's haunting to me since I know exactly what I was doing on 7-24-08. Really, while I think this country has a lot to grow on when it comes to treatment of gays, the way much of the rest of the world treats gays is barbaric as hell. There is no reason at all why gay and lesbian citizens shouldn't be treated with dignity and have the right to be happy with who they are without fear of harassment and violence.

It's a religious issue. Openly gay men are hated in the Arab world, despite the sexual abuse of boys that does go on.

448 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:05:02pm

I got stuck in traffic today after a big storm passed through. When I was almost home 2 ambulances & 2 firetrucks passed me. This is why:

Intense rains that began this morning have rescue crews busy this afternoon as homeowners and motorists are coping with rising flash flood waters. The intersection of Routes 250 and 151 in the Albemarle County side of Afton was the scene of a Rockfish Valley Fire Dept. rescue of a family trapped in their house as it sat surrounded by water.

I'm in that video somewhere.

449 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:05:28pm

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

Have things gotten less hateful at RedState since the purge?

Ha! No, it still turns into a brawl by 20 comments. It's a party torn apart by Sarah and birtherism at the moment.
I love Redstate, I can read what they think without getting yelled at.

450 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:06:54pm

Maybe that's what we need to do. Get the Taliban and AQ drunk!

//

451 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:07:00pm

re: #447 Dark_Falcon

It's a religious issue. Openly gay men are hated in the Arab world, despite the sexual abuse of boys that does go on.

I know. It's not just the Arab world that treats gays and lesbians cruelly and inhumanly but also other regimes. One of the reasons I've been critical of the brothers Castro and Communist regimes as a whole is because they treat their gay and lesbian population like crap which is putting it kindly.

452 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:07:51pm

re: #450 Gus 802

Maybe that's what we need to do. Get the Taliban and AQ drunk!

//

Ha, I'd watch that.

453 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:08:34pm

re: #448 NJDhockeyfan

I got stuck in traffic today after a big storm passed through. When I was almost home 2 ambulances & 2 firetrucks passed me. This is why:

I'm in that video somewhere.

I can do one better.

My mom got interviewed for TV because of a tree came down in our house less than a year ago.

For reference this tree had been there ever since I was born and probably a lot longer than that, it was about as long as our front yard.

It managed to SOMEHOW fall in JUST the right place that it missed THE HOUSE and THE CAR, falling perfectly between the two since it could have easily f***ed up either one.

Of course because it fell across out front porch it was impossible to get out or into our house using the front door for about two weeks before we finally got it taken away.

454 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:14:06pm

re: #453 jamesfirecat

I can do one better.

My mom got interviewed for TV because of a tree came down in our house less than a year ago.

For reference this tree had been there ever since I was born and probably a lot longer than that, it was about as long as our front yard.

It managed to SOMEHOW fall in JUST the right place that it missed THE HOUSE and THE CAR, falling perfectly between the two since it could have easily f***ed up either one.

Of course because it fell across out front porch it was impossible to get out or into our house using the front door for about two weeks before we finally got it taken away.

heh.
We had a tree do the same thing during hurricane Gustav. Missed the house AND the cars, by inches.

455 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:14:41pm

re: #450 Gus 802

Maybe that's what we need to do. Get the Taliban and AQ drunk!

//

Very true--drunk, laid, and listening to Janis Joplin.

456 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:14:42pm

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Ha, I'd watch that.

I always though that the potential for psychotropic chemical weapons was an avenue that could hold some promise. For instance we could have marijuana bombs or maybe even peyote bombs. We could attain victory rather swiftly by getting large numbers of AQ seriously baked.

//

457 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:15:37pm

re: #454 reine.de.tout

heh.
We had a tree do the same thing during hurricane Gustav. Missed the house AND the cars, by inches.

Another shot of it, different angle

458 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:16:00pm

Speaking of Derp, has anyone read a post from MadAlJafee?

459 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:16:01pm

re: #456 Gus 802

I always though that the potential for psychotropic chemical weapons was an avenue that could hold some promise. For instance we could have marijuana bombs or maybe even peyote bombs. We could attain victory rather swiftly by getting large numbers of AQ seriously baked.

//

LSD was intended as a late '50s weapon--too hard to control.

460 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:16:05pm

re: #454 reine.de.tout

heh.
We had a tree do the same thing during hurricane Gustav. Missed the house AND the cars, by inches.

Bah, that looks like a twig next to the one that came down by my house!

I'd show you guys some of the pics my dad took of it, but since it came down in our front yard the house's address number probably shows up in it and so, well not that I don't trust you lizards but better safe than sorry.

461 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:16:06pm

re: #456 Gus 802

I always though that the potential for psychotropic chemical weapons was an avenue that could hold some promise. For instance we could have marijuana bombs or maybe even peyote bombs. We could attain victory rather swiftly by getting large numbers of AQ seriously baked.

//

Hahaha, on a serious note I Remember reading somewhere that in the 50's that DoD apparently had a plan for a "gay" bomb that they wanted to use on the Soviets. It was probably bs but that's hilarious to me.

462 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:17:07pm

re: #192 Gus 802

I like to think of the Tea Party as the S.S. Minnow.

/

You mean stuck with a bunch of idiots who never fix the boat that marooned them?

463 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:17:15pm

re: #268 rwmofo

Bullshit. Explain why those "sexist, racists" in South Carolina elected an Indian woman.

They thought she was the best person for the job?
Why do you think she got elected?

464 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:19:04pm

re: #462 Lidane

You mean stuck with a bunch of idiots who never fix the boat that marooned them?

[Link: www.lyricsmode.com...]

465 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:19:17pm

re: #434 NJDhockeyfan

HuffPo is a cesspool of hate and anti-Semitism. Who gives a fuck what they think?


I do.
(note: that is not an acceptance of you as my spouse)
re: #440 Dark_Falcon

They also hate on Israel over there and host anti-vaxers. HuffPo is a font of Bad Craziness.

It's a blog (actually, it's a free online magazine with a big fuckin' readership). And it's surpassed most other blogs in audience. As such, they've got a host of members - anti-semites, anti-vaccines, anti-muslim, anti-christian, anti-athiests(aka Christians), the list goes on...but really, a single-issue dismissal of one of the preeminent sources of news and information? That's like hating all dogs because a chihuahua peed on your lawn.

466 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:19:29pm

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Hahaha, on a serious note I Remember reading somewhere that in the 50's that DoD apparently had a plan for a "gay" bomb that they wanted to use on the Soviets. It was probably bs but that's hilarious to me.

Yeah. One thing is getting them stoned and another is flipping that switch which sounds like it would be impossible. And of course being gay wouldn't stop a fighting man.

467 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:19:52pm

re: #459 Decatur Deb

LSD was intended as a late '50s weapon--too hard to control.

You think LSD is hard to control? Try mushrooms.

468 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:20:22pm

I remember I posted about El Nino on Thursday. This kind of weather is why:[Link: www.reuters.com...]

469 jaunte  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:20:52pm

re: #467 darthstar

Just surround them with a brick border.

470 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:21:21pm

re: #455 Decatur Deb

Very true--drunk, laid, and listening to Janis Joplin.

Lynyrd Skynyrd. FREE BIIIRD!

///

471 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:21:37pm

re: #469 jaunte

Just surround them with a brick border.

How do you build a brick border around the internet?

472 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:21:55pm

re: #454 reine.de.tout

heh.
We had a tree do the same thing during hurricane Gustav. Missed the house AND the cars, by inches.

Looks like hay fever country! Achoo!

473 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:22:19pm

re: #471 darthstar

How do you build a brick border around the internet?

Sorry...thought you were talking about huffpo...mushrooms can see through brick borders.

474 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:22:27pm

re: #467 darthstar

You think LSD is hard to control? Try mushrooms.

Old Army Chem Research Lab video:

[Link: www.metacafe.com...]

475 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:23:21pm

re: #455 Decatur Deb

Very true--drunk, laid, and listening to Janis Joplin.

I don't want the Taliban interpreting "Piece of My Heart"...that'll be messy.

476 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:23:25pm

re: #465 darthstar

I do.
(note: that is not an acceptance of you as my spouse)
re: #440 Dark_Falcon

It's a blog (actually, it's a free online magazine with a big fuckin' readership). And it's surpassed most other blogs in audience. As such, they've got a host of members - anti-semites, anti-vaccines, anti-muslim, anti-christian, anti-athiests(aka Christians), the list goes on...but really, a single-issue dismissal of one of the preeminent sources of news and information? That's like hating all dogs because a chihuahua peed on your lawn.

It's a discussing rag blog full of members who have hate flowing through their veins. Glad you approve.

477 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:24:12pm

re: #458 prairiefire

Speaking of Derp, has anyone read a post from MadAlJafee?

I hoarded every single issue of Mad Magazine from about 1978 through about 1991, does that count?

478 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:24:13pm

Cubs are pouring it on. 5-1.

479 freetoken  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:24:27pm

It's a wonderful week.

The loquats are ready.

480 darthstar  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:24:47pm

re: #476 NJDhockeyfan

It's a discussing rag blog full of members who have hate flowing through their veins. Glad you approve.

Yes, they discuss. Just stay in your shell. You're safer there.

481 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:24:48pm

re: #470 Lidane

Lynyrd Skynyrd. FREE BIIIRD!

///

Knowing them, they'd be total newbs and request White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane. That's not intended as a diss on Jefferson Airplane who I enjoy but the fact that it feels like every thing first stoned moment has that song. And besides, I like "Today" beter.

482 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:25:48pm

The great BS propaganda that influenced America to this day.

Dragnet Jack Webb "Alcohol VS. Marijuana & LSD" Great Speech

Youtube Video
483 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:26:06pm

re: #458 prairiefire

Speaking of Derp, has anyone read a post from MadAlJafee?

Nothing since he left an obscure comment about 'closing'. Hope it wasn't a flounce, he didn't seem the type.

484 BishopX  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:26:34pm

re: #427 Killgore Trout

Doing better than much of the rest of the region. There have been some protests but nothing that looks like Egypt, Syria, Libya, etc. The people are free to protest but they are free. In that region it's quite an accomplishment.


The reason there haven't been wide scale protests are four fold:

1) Sectarian division: Iraq is a largely segregated society, unlike Egypt or Tunisia, making it hard for protests to spread.

2)Lack of focus: Iraq doesn't have an iconic head of state who has been in power for 30+ years, so instead of a national movement focused on deposing a head of state fuel by poor local conditions you end up with lots of small local protests about local issues.

3)Violence. Iraqi forces have been pretty free with the use of live ammunition to disperse crowds. Not to the extent that Libyan forces were, but enough to crush small protests. Also, the persistent threat of terrorism makes large protests risky.

I wouldn't say Iraq is going well...even relative to the rest of the region.

485 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:28:27pm

The only thing in me now is 2 spring rolls, 6 pan fried dumplings, and way too much hot-hot twice cooked pork. Oh, and some remanents of two Advils and some coffee.

486 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:29:38pm

There's an 8-month-old in the house, and nobody is getting much sleep--'Nite, all.

487 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:30:03pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

Here's the money quote...

""Atlas Shrugged," a mega-fable that is to capitalists roughly what "To Kill a Mockingbird" is to liberals"

Can anyone... anywhere make ANY sense out of that?

Not really, and some of the commenters seem to have taken offense to the idea that "Mockingbird" only belongs to liberals.

488 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:30:34pm

re: #473 darthstar

Sorry...thought you were talking about huffpo...mushrooms can see through brick borders.

Only if they're Goombas.

/Super Mario Brothers reference

489 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:31:00pm

If I suddenly stop typing that means I blew up.

490 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:31:47pm

re: #483 Decatur Deb

Nothing since he left an obscure comment about 'closing'. Hope it wasn't a flounce, he didn't seem the type.

Hhmm. Well, if he gave a sign off... He was a great harmonica player! I hope he got some more gigs.

491 Lidane  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:32:32pm

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

Only if they're Goombas.

/Super Mario Brothers reference

I never understood how the Goombas did anything. They don't have arms.

/pointless

492 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:36:09pm

re: #489 Gus 802

If I suddenly stop typing that means I blew up.

What, a premature detonation?

///

493 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:38:26pm

re: #492 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What, a premature detonation?

///

Post detonation. You ever eat too much and think to yourself "damn this thing is growing inside of me!" Been a while since I ate this much. I'm stuffed.

494 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:39:40pm

Godless...
Did President Lincoln Believe in God?

A resurfaced letter, which sold this week for $35,000, raises questions about the 16th president's faith.
495 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:40:32pm

re: #493 Gus 802

Post detonation. You ever eat too much and think to yourself "damn this thing is growing inside of me!" Been a while since I ate this much. I'm stuffed.

I stood in the rain for 30 minutes today to get a Voodoo doughnut. The Princess wanted to try some, and it's her birthday.

Not sure it was worth 30 minutes. The money--sure--they go all out to try unique stuff.

The part that blew me away was the man in front of us who did the wait--and then got a maple bar. Not the maple and bacon bar. Not the cereal-crusted doughnuts. Not the Oreo-crumble topped kind.

Why bother?

496 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:41:12pm

You wanna get /high/, man?

Youtube Video

///am I driving OK?

497 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:41:54pm

re: #494 Killgore Trout

Godless...
Did President Lincoln Believe in God?

Herndon also didn't like Mary Todd Lincoln.

498 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:43:09pm

re: #493 Gus 802

Post detonation. You ever eat too much and think to yourself "damn this thing is growing inside of me!" Been a while since I ate this much. I'm stuffed.

Yeah, I call it Thanksgiving. That time of year where I have to unbutton my pants after dinner, lest it pop and become a projectile.

499 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:44:40pm

re: #498 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I call it Thanksgiving. That time of year where I have to unbutton my pants after dinner, lest it pop and become a projectile.

That could make a funny skit. Like Monty Python with buckets of blood.

Pop! Pop! Pop, pop, pop!

//

500 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:46:57pm

re: #498 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, I call it Thanksgiving. That time of year where I have to unbutton my pants after dinner, lest it pop and become a projectile.

That's a good way to end up registered in a database somewhere.

501 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:49:30pm

Check this out...

[Link: twitter.com...]

So yeah. Tell me about the "left wingers" again RWMOFO when you have the time.

502 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:51:49pm

re: #501 Gus 802

Check this out...

[Link: twitter.com...]

So yeah. Tell me about the "left wingers" again RWMOFO when you have the time.

Who's your bf lizardroid?

503 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:52:43pm

re: #502 EmmmieG

Who's your bf lizardroid?

Lizardroid is Charles.

504 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:53:22pm

re: #502 EmmmieG

Wait, that doesn't mean best friend, does it?

Sorry--stuck in teenage land, where that is exactly what it would mean.

I've reported my own comment. It should be deleted for referencing the tweet.

505 Gus  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:53:40pm

That avatar sure looks familiar.

506 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 7:53:57pm

re: #503 Gus 802

Lizardroid is Charles.

Lizardoid is Charles. Lizardroid is the replica of him that's going into the Smithsonian.

507 simoom  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:02:41pm

Here's photo of the crowd from the roof of the WI Capitol Building:
Image: 27569841_640X480.jpg

It's from this story on the rally:
[Link: www.channel3000.com...]

I think in that shot the seated tea party folks are obscured by the top of the building. I believe what you're seeing is mostly the surrounding counter-protest.

Here's a good side-shot of the crowd:
Image: 0yx1t.jpg

The Tea Party folks are the seated group in the lower-righthand corner. The counter-protesters are around them on all sides, including the top-right. There a few Gadsden flags but almost all the signs visible are the opposition.

508 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:05:25pm

re: #507 simoom

Holy crap. That place was filled with dozens and dozens of people!

509 Bubblehead II  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:05:30pm

re: #505 Gus 802

That avatar sure looks familiar.

It's from the Carly Fiorina Demon Sheep Ad.

Don't know if one of the lurkers/flouncers used it, but if they did, that is where it came from.

510 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:05:32pm

re: #507 simoom

Here's photo of the crowd from the roof of the WI Capitol Building:
Image: 27569841_640X480.jpg

It's from this story on the rally:
[Link: www.channel3000.com...]

I think in that shot the seated tea party folks are obscured by the top of the building. I believe what you're seeing is mostly the surrounding counter-protest.

Here's a good side-shot of the crowd:
Image: 0yx1t.jpg

The Tea Party folks are the seated group in the lower-righthand corner. The counter-protesters are around them on all sides, including the top-right. There a few Gadsden flags but almost all the signs visible are the opposition.

Fairly small, overall. It would likely have been bigger on both sides were the weather not so wet and cold.

511 simoom  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:22:51pm

re: #510 Dark_Falcon

I agree about the weather, but I think it's at least some further evidence that the enthusiasm for these "Tax Day" Tea Party Rallies, even with celebrity headliners like Breitbart and Palin, isn't anywhere near what it was in years past.

What's also interesting is these events seem to be much more explicitly organized by Koch's American's for Prosperity now:
Image: 27570301_640X480.jpg

AFP robo-called me to try and turn me out for the New Hampshire tea party rally (which featured Rick Santorum, Hermain Cain, etc) the other day. I'm guessing AFP also provided the stage, giant screen, sound system and robo-calling organizing for the WI rally too based on their logo all over everything.

Here's a bit of video from within the booing crowd:

Youtube Video
512 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:24:22pm

Just watched the worst movie of the year
Wall Street..Money never sleeps
pretty much sucked big time
I liked Wall Street years ago...

513 What, me worry?  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:26:13pm

re: #510 Dark_Falcon

Fairly small, overall. It would likely have been bigger on both sides were the weather not so wet and cold.

They're used to it. They have about 5 seconds of summer.

I lived in Milwaukee 4 years. You don't have the wind like Chicago. It just gets cold and stays cold.

514 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:31:04pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

No, that we would not do. If a town harbored the camp from which the terrorists came, then that town gets blasted even if the terrorists have left. The people are required to keep the terrorists out. If the terrorists kill them, then they should have thought about that when we offered to help them.

Did I miss the part where we asked the people of Afghanistan if they wanted us to pop in and help them?

And where the hell is it written that a civilian population is required to die getting rid of terrorists for the convenience of a foreign combatant?

515 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:33:47pm

re: #375 jvic

Words like 'nuke' and 'murderous' aside, it remains true that the Taliban sheltered bin Laden. Therefore, I don't see how we can walk away and let them take over again. I question the credibility of any parting threats we might make; barring terrorism orders of magnitude greater than 9/11, I question the willingness of our government to implement such threats. Otoh, I'm at a loss as to what to do.

We could always capture Bin Laden. Seems vanishing unlikely at this point, but it would help.

Or, we could get the hell over ourselves. The Taliban are no better or worse than a different pack of jackals that might rise to power in the tribal country of Afghanistan. Yes, they harbored our enemy. They didn't have a reason not to.

We may have to walk away from this one.

516 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:34:49pm

re: #386 celticdragon

Apparently, only liberals care about books that deal with violent racists...and conservatives like fantasies about letting thousands, even millions of ordinary people die because only idiots believe in altruism and the highest moral order is "fuck you... I've got mine, bee-yotch!"

The conservative commentators at the New York Post took that somewhat amiss.

517 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:36:26pm

re: #393 NJDhockeyfan

Aren't they usually protesting together in California?

LORD no. I mean, there's some overlap, but there are also a few deep and nasty divides in that list.

518 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:39:20pm

re: #405 celticdragon

Roman style decimation can be effective, but it requires one to be a consummate tyrant and a monster. If you stare into the abyss too long, it stares back...and all that jazz.

Afghanistan has been worked over by bigger assholes than Americans ever hope to be. The idea that we can somehow be scary enough that the folks up there will never shelter terrorists again seems vanishingly small.

519 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:40:24pm

re: #410 NJDhockeyfan

Lefty loser Ralph Schoenman talking about Bahrain:

"Riyadh Is, In Fact, Occupying Bahrain... The Bodies of Youths... Are Being Returned To Their Families With Their Organs Missing" Like "The Israeli Armed Forces Were Doing In Gaza and Other Place With Palestinian Prisoners"

Oh, hey, it's the return of Baby Parts. That's an old Soviet propaganda piece, still sailing the world, like a ghost ship.

520 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:42:39pm

re: #435 Gus 802

Gays in Iraq terrorized by threats, rape, murder - CNN
Jul 24, 2008 ... Kamal was just 16 when gunmen snatched him off the streets of Baghdad, stuffed him in the trunk of a car and whisked him away to a house.

Iraq's Newly Open Gays Face Scorn and Murder - NYTimes.com
Apr 7, 2009 ... In a country that remains religious and conservative, the response to a gay subculture has been swift and deadly.

There is a mysterious number of things that are intolerable when practiced by people we intend to invade, and the sad way of the world, when we have no intention of doing anything about them.

521 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:44:41pm

re: #460 jamesfirecat

Bah, that looks like a twig next to the one that came down by my house!

I'd show you guys some of the pics my dad took of it, but since it came down in our front yard the house's address number probably shows up in it and so, well not that I don't trust you lizards but better safe than sorry.

Don't trust us lizards. There are a hell of a lot of people reading this. Not all of them are sane. Of the insane ones, not all of them are crazy in a good way.

522 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:45:37pm

re: #475 darthstar

I don't want the Taliban interpreting "Piece of My Heart"...that'll be messy.

Ah, they understand soppy, pain-filled love songs in that part of the world.

523 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:46:13pm

re: #489 Gus 802

If I suddenly stop typing that means I blew up.

Noted. Would you like us to inform anyone?

524 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 16, 2011 8:47:11pm

re: #512 HoosierHoops

Just watched the worst movie of the year
Wall Street..Money never sleeps
pretty much sucked big time
I liked Wall Street years ago...

In the 80s, this stuff made more sense.


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