Video: Andrew Breitbart Believes Bill Ayers Wrote Obama’s Autobiography

The look on Martin Bashir’s face is priceless
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In Andrew Breitbart’s extremely hostile and combative interview with Martin Bashir, the most newsworthy moment is when Breitbart reveals that he actually believes in the world’s stupidest right wing conspiracy theory — that President Obama’s first book was secretly written by former Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers.

And amazingly, Breitbart even repeats the world’s dumbest “proof” of the conspiracy theory, that Ayers himself admitted he wrote the book.

It’s hard to quantify this level of fail. Ayers, as is blazingly obvious in the video to which Breitbart refers, was making a sarcastic joke — about this very conspiracy theory. He was making fun of people like Breitbart, but they don’t even recognize it. Instead, they idiotically parrot the claim that Ayers “admitted” writing the book. Absolutely stunning.

Before this, I thought Andrew Breitbart was a fairly smart guy; a totally unscrupulous con artist, but not stupid. It turns out he really is as dense as Jim Hoft.

Defamation lawsuits are notoriously difficult to win, but if this is how Breitbart intends to defend himself against Shirley Sherrod, she just might do it.

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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:45:40pm

When President Obama wins the next election? This asshole will be one of the many "Republicans" who will get a thank you call from his election staff.

2 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:45:51pm

Video isn't starting on my end.

3 samuraishake  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:46:04pm

Willful ignorance + low IQ + animosity = Breitbart and his devotees

4 Lidane  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:46:15pm

I can't even begin to comprehend that level of fail. Darwin Award winners have more common sense than these idiots.

5 researchok  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:46:34pm

Video won't play for me

6 researchok  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:47:27pm

re: #2 Gus 802

Video isn't starting on my end.

They hate us.

7 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:47:50pm

re: #6 researchok

They hate us.

It's probably those Apple people.

//

8 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:48:58pm

Seems to be a problem on Media Matters' end. Here's the link to the video at their site:

9 researchok  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:49:03pm

re: #7 Gus 802

It's probably those Apple people.

//

It's the Breitbart people.

They have our names.

10 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:49:39pm

It seems that, as their audience begins to thin out, with only the craziest remaining behind, that loonies like Breitbart are getting more shrill and angry. But, as the first rule of media goes, "give the people what they want."

11 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:52:18pm

Too funny. He starts of immediately with a tu quoque.

12 simoom  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:55:28pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When President Obama wins the next election? This asshole will be one of the many "Republicans" who will get a thank you call from his election staff.

I remain extremely leery of the idea, that the national media providing a platform for daily smears, rumors and innuendo that questions the President's honesty, loyalties, patriotism and faith, will end up having a net positive outcome for the President. I suspect that much of the american public is prone to thoughts of "where there's so much smoke there must be fire" and splitting the difference opposing sides in a debate.

13 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:56:26pm

I'm pretty sure Breitbart himself gets the joke. He just thinks his irony-challenged audience won't. He's probably right.

Btw, I think Breitbart will be a dead ringer for the late Col. Harlan Sanders in about 30 years. He probably can't cook for shit though.

14 freetoken  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:56:50pm

re: #12 simoom

Agree. Repeating a lie often enough is a way to get a certain percentage of listeners to agree, regardless of any facts.

15 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:57:03pm

If you reload the page, you'll see the video; I found it at MSNBC. Much better quality, too. You can see every vein popping out on Andrew Breitbart's forehead.

16 freetoken  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:58:32pm

That indeed is the brilliance of TEACH THE CONTROVERSY! strategies.

As apes we naturally mimic. That's how we learn languages and such. We simply repeat what we hear. Analysis is not required.

17 freetoken  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:58:46pm

E.g., "Climategate".

18 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:59:07pm

Questions:

1. Why the hell would Obama have asked Bill Ayers to write a memoir for him?

2. Why the hell would Bill Ayers have done so?

3. Why do we believe he did so?

4. Assume that I believe that Bill Ayers wrote the book. Why do I care? Be specific.

19 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:59:56pm

In turn, I wrote Ayers's autobiography. He was too busy ghosting for big time liberals to be bothered with it, you know.

20 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:00:39pm

Anyone checking out the Facebook townhall?

21 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:00:44pm

Defamation lawsuits are notoriously difficult to win, but if this is how Breitbart intends to defend himself against Shirley Sherrod, she just might win.

22 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:00:59pm

Off topic, but I think I found the reason that Morocco was at that meeting about the No-Fly Zone on March 18 before France did the first attack. From Telegraph Article:

The majority of the fighters are reported to be members of the Sahrawi tribe who are based in the Western Sahara, and have been fighting a war of independence against Morocco as members of the Polisario Front.

Algeria has been propping up the Polisario Front in Morocco as well, stopping any political settlement, which Morocco is offering. Algeria's influence on the region is looking more negative by the day.

23 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:01:35pm

re: #21 Charles

Defamation lawsuits are notoriously difficult to win, but if this is how Breitbart intends to defend himself against Shirley Sherrod, she just might win.

I doubt his attorney is letting him talk. Well, if he's smart.

24 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:03:24pm

Eric Boehlert, Media Matters and George Soros done it!

//

25 researchok  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:04:57pm

Watched the wholke video.

Breitbart isn't defending his views or ides.

He is put in the position of having to defend crazy.

26 researchok  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:06:27pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

Anyone checking out the Facebook townhall?

See this
Conservatives poke Obama's Facebook town hall

Right on cue.

27 jaunte  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:07:04pm

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

According to Aaron Klein, author of "The Manchurian President: Barack Obama's Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists,"
we should care because "Obama is tied to an anti-American fringe nexus"
(!?!) and every time anyone on Fox says Obama and Ayers in the same sentence, he has a chance to sell another book.

28 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:08:57pm

re: #26 researchok

See this
Conservatives poke Obama's Facebook town hall

Right on cue.

WTF?

ForAmerica, a group that sprung up online during the debate over Obama's health care reform law, urged its nearly 1 million Facebook fans to swarm the landing page Facebook was using to collect questions to pose to him at Wednesday afternoon's live forum. They suggested users post the same message, criticizing him for adding $3.5 trillion to the national event and saying, "The first thing we should do is repeal Obamacare."

According to a screen shot provided by the group, the deluge led to the page being listed at one point as "unavailable." A spokesman said it was down for 40 minutes, and that when it returned users could only post comments on the wall if they indicated they would "attend" the town hall first.

"We are only beginning to see the untapped power of this growing, formidable online army," Brent Bozell, chairman of ForAmerica, said in a statement.

What is this some kind of third cousin to "anonymous"?

29 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:11:38pm

re: #28 Gus 802

He doesn't think the other side can do the same? That is a low-energy form of protest/vandalism.

30 Lidane  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:13:55pm

re: #28 Gus 802

WTF?

What is this some kind of third cousin to "anonymous"?

Nah. Anonymous are more sophisticated in their trolling, since they have people who actually know how to hack and cause DDoS attacks.

This is just the equivalent of a bunch of crybabies trying to shout down any actual discussion, nothing more.

31 researchok  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:14:06pm

re: #28 Gus 802

WTF?

What is this some kind of third cousin to "anonymous"?

Wannabes

32 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:14:40pm

re: #30 Lidane

Nah. Anonymous are more sophisticated in their trolling, since they have people who actually know how to hack and cause DDoS attacks.

This is just the equivalent of a bunch of crybabies trying to shout down any actual discussion, nothing more.

Which is why I said third cousin. :)

33 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:23:11pm

re: #30 Lidane

Nah. Anonymous are more sophisticated in their trolling, since they have people who actually know how to hack and cause DDoS attacks.

This is just the equivalent of a bunch of crybabies trying to shout down any actual discussion, nothing more.

Yep, it's like the Tea Partiers who showed up at town hall meetings during the ACA debates, whose SOP was to forgo intelligent debate and stick to name-calling and talking points.

34 freetoken  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:25:01pm

Oil prices quite strong today:
[Link: www.upstreamonline.com...]

Inflation seems to be poking its nose out from under the blanket... about to get up.

I suspect that these economic concerns will start driving the election soon, more so than the racist theatrics that the idiots have been playing with the past couple of years.

35 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:31:00pm

I still maintain that Andrew Breitbart is really two small Andrew Breitbart's in a big Andrew Breitbart costume..

36 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:34:04pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

I still maintain that Andrew Breitbart is really two small Andrew Breitbart's in a big Andrew Breitbart costume..

A Breitbart inside a Breitbart. It's a Derp version of Inception!!1! "Gotta go derper!"

37 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:34:16pm

Sorry to go OT.
A great photographer has been killed by an RPG in Misrata, Libya. The very man who co directed Restrepo and done so many poignant photographs of war, Tim Hetherington, More details Paged.
Rest In Peace

38 engineer cat  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:34:53pm

i remember when ronald reagan admitted that he was about to start bombing the soviet union

39 sproingie  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:36:15pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Argh, I really don't want to think about recursive Breitbarts. It's like a matroshka doll of stupidity.

40 engineer cat  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:39:39pm

Ayers, as is blazingly obvious in the video to which Breitbart refers, was making a sarcastic joke — about this very conspiracy theory. He was making fun of people like Breitbart, but they don’t even recognize it.

Inability to Spot Lies, Sarcasm May Warn of Dementia

"The different dementia patients tended to have difficulty identifying the form of sarcasm we used for our study," said lead researcher Katherine P. Rankin, a neuropsychologist and associate professor of neurology. Whereas many dementia patients could easily recognize a lie, patients with frontotemporal dementia were unable to pick out either sarcasm or lies.

41 makeitstop  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:40:55pm

I applaud Bashir's restraint. Had I been on the other side of the table from Breitbart and he acted like that, I think I'd have lunged at him.

42 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:43:06pm

re: #39 sproingie

Now I'm imagining one of the .gifs where they zoom in on Breitbart's face and in his open mouth there's another Breitbart zooming in to another Breitbart in his mouth zooming in to another Breitbart in his mouth zooming in to another Breitbart in his mouth zooming in to another Breitbart in his mouth zooming in ajdfasd fsadnf sfencoea f

/asploded

43 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:47:42pm

re: #34 freetoken

Oil prices quite strong today:
[Link: www.upstreamonline.com...]

Inflation seems to be poking its nose out from under the blanket... about to get up.

I suspect that these economic concerns will start driving the election soon, more so than the racist theatrics that the idiots have been playing with the past couple of years.

Other currency quite strong today...

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:47:56pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry to go OT.
A great photographer has been killed by an RPG in Misrata, Libya. The very man who co directed Restrepo and done so many poignant photographs of war, Tim Hetherington, More details Paged.
Rest In Peace

Soldiers are the ones who run toward the gunfire holding guns.

War photographers are the ones who run toward the gunfire holding a camera.

Crazy as hell. God rest his soul.

45 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:49:12pm

re: #34 freetoken

Oil prices quite strong today:
[Link: www.upstreamonline.com...]

Inflation seems to be poking its nose out from under the blanket... about to get up.

I suspect that these economic concerns will start driving the election soon, more so than the racist theatrics that the idiots have been playing with the past couple of years.

So Drudge has an AP image up regarding gasoline prices going up. So I find this at a Flickr where some guy said,

seth, when i think of this exxxon station, i see red. i pass it all the time on my way home from dc and they always charge exorbitant prices for their gas! btw, i added you as a contact on my flickr album-is that ok? your flickr photo album is outstanding! many thanks, md route5

I find it on Google Maps and see that even back then this gas station was charging high prices for gasoline. Price was at a range from 3.29 to 3.49. Low and behold there's a Chevron across the street charging 2.69 to 2.95.

46 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:50:30pm

re: #45 Gus 802

So Drudge has an AP image up regarding gasoline prices going up. So I find this at a Flickr where some guy said,

I find it on Google Maps and see that even back then this gas station was charging high prices for gasoline. Price was at a range from 3.29 to 3.49. Low and behold there's a Chevron across the street charging 2.69 to 2.95.

There are stations like that around here. Consistently charging more. Some of them I wonder how they survive. The nearest me doesn't. It is always going out of business, getting new management, re-opening, etc.

47 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:51:59pm

Breaking news! Andrew Breitbart isn't even mention on the front page of MSNBC news!

Bummer Andrew.

//

48 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:53:32pm
And amazingly, Breitbart even repeats the world’s dumbest “proof” of the conspiracy theory, that Ayers himself admitted he wrote the book.

It’s hard to quantify this level of fail. Ayers, as is blazingly obvious in the video to which Breitbart refers, was making a sarcastic joke — about this very conspiracy theory. He was making fun of people like Breitbart, but they don’t even recognize it. Instead, they idiotically parrot the claim that Ayers “admitted” writing the book. Absolutely stunning.

Failure To Detect Lying May Indicate Beginnings Of Dementia …

In a nutshell, researchers at the University Of California have determined that a person with an Alzheimer’s damaged brain can lose the ability to pick up on the subtle clues given off by someone who is insincere or is lying to them.

MRI mapping studies of the human brain indicate that when certain areas of the brain deteriorate that the person can no longer detect lies.

The UCSF team lead by neuropsychologist Katherine Rankin, PhD, suggests that data collected in the study may make it possible now to diagnose Alzheimer’s or Dementia at an early stage and target people with whatever treatments become available.

49 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:54:12pm

re: #46 EmmmieG

There are stations like that around here. Consistently charging more. Some of them I wonder how they survive. The nearest me doesn't. It is always going out of business, getting new management, re-opening, etc.

Same here. DC's expensive as it is.

Like I said earlier though I guarantee that they'll set record profits with these oil prices. Seems counterintuitive but that's how it works.

50 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:56:08pm

Gas prices have hit the roof! People are driving less and staying home for the summer. It was the summer of 2008. Then, a few months later the oil companies reported record profits and everybody went "huh?"

51 BishopX  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:56:41pm

re: #49 Gus 802

The oil companies will, the gas stations not so much....

Visa and MasterCard take a percentage of the transaction as a fee. As gas prices go up the credit card fees overwhelm the profit margins for the station owners.

52 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:57:00pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Same here. DC's expensive as it is.

Like I said earlier though I guarantee that they'll set record profits with these oil prices. Seems counterintuitive but that's how it works.

Colorado has the second lowest prices in the country...

[Link: gasbuddy.com...]

53 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:57:35pm

re: #51 BishopX

The oil companies will, the gas stations not so much...

Visa and MasterCard take a percentage of the transaction as a fee. As gas prices go up the credit card fees overwhelm the profit margins for the station owners.

Yep. People always vent there anger at them though. Which of course doesn't make sense.

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 2:57:46pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

Failure To Detect Lying May Indicate Beginnings Of Dementia …

In this case, I think it's just that there's a degree of confirmation bias going on that makes it almost impossible for Breitbart and his ilk to read nuanced communication, and also, a degree of passionate partisanship that means that it's far, far more important whether something can be used to further the meme than whether it passes the smell test.

I see this with my anti-Semites on Facebook. Every word is instantly warped and appropriated to make what you're saying fall into their narrative. There is no dialogue possible.

55 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:00:25pm

A look back.

Exxon Mobil: Biggest profit in history
The largest U.S. oil company surges past analysts' estimates with a posted net income of $14.83 billion and sets a national record for quarterly profit.
October 30, 2008

The company's earnings were buoyed by oil prices, which reached record highs in the quarter before declining. Oil prices were trading at $140.97 a barrel at the beginning of the third quarter, and had fallen to $100.64 at the end.

Today we're actually finding lower oil prices then the 140.97 we're seeing here but slightly higher gasoline prices.

56 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:00:53pm

re: #50 Gus 802

Gas prices have hit the roof! People are driving less and staying home for the summer. It was the summer of 2008. Then, a few months later the oil companies reported record profits and everybody went "huh?"

The Right's response? "The government's responsible for high gas prices! Gas taxes are too high! And the government's getting in the way of oil drilling, keeping prices high! And the EPA's different blends are raising refining costs! Ethanol costs are driving up prices!"

And God help you if you suggested that Big Oil was doing anything to keep the prices high.

57 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:01:32pm

re: #56 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The Right's response? "The government's responsible for high gas prices! Gas taxes are too high! And the government's getting in the way of oil drilling, keeping prices high! And the EPA's different blends are raising refining costs! Ethanol costs are driving up prices!"

And God help you if you suggested that Big Oil was doing anything to keep the prices high.

Exxon sure didn't complain.

58 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:01:52pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

In this case, I think it's just that there's a degree of confirmation bias going on that makes it almost impossible for Breitbart and his ilk to read nuanced communication, and also, a degree of passionate partisanship that means that it's far, far more important whether something can be used to further the meme than whether it passes the smell test.

I see this with my anti-Semites on Facebook. Every word is instantly warped and appropriated to make what you're saying fall into their narrative. There is no dialogue possible.

I also think there's a degree of smarmy deliberate pudwhackery at play. These people know what they're saying is complete horseshit, but they say it anyway because they think it's funny, like sixth grade bullies during recess.

59 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:01:54pm

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

Colorado has the second lowest prices in the country...

[Link: gasbuddy.com...]

Any reason why? Odd because the food prices aren't that good.

60 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:02:45pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Soldiers are the ones who run toward the gunfire holding guns.

War photographers are the ones who run toward the gunfire holding a camera.

Crazy as hell. God rest his soul.

The guy was a mate of a mate - i don't think i ever met him, but he was hugely brave and massively talented.

I do know a couple of war correspondents, one who was in Serbia, - and they are a different breed.

61 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:03:46pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

In this case, I think it's just that there's a degree of confirmation bias going on that makes it almost impossible for Breitbart and his ilk to read nuanced communication, and also, a degree of passionate partisanship that means that it's far, far more important whether something can be used to further the meme than whether it passes the smell test.

I see this with my anti-Semites on Facebook. Every word is instantly warped and appropriated to make what you're saying fall into their narrative. There is no dialogue possible.

Why on earth are you facebook friends with anti-semites?

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:05:19pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

I also think there's a degree of smarmy deliberate pudwhackery at play. These people know what they're saying is complete horseshit, but they say it anyway because they think it's funny, like sixth grade bullies during recess.

Oh, decidedly. They don't really think Suzie's mom is a hooker, but if you say it loudly enough and often enough, others will say it too, and Suzie will cry.

If they say this stuff loud enough, the liberals will get mad and huff and puff, and that's fun. And then, too, stupider kids will actually think it's true.

In one of his scummiest moments, Jesse Helms actually tried to make Carol Moseley Braun cry--he said that was his goal--by singing "Dixie" at her.

Not all the grown-ups get past that ugly middle-school stage.

63 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:05:56pm

Right now oil is at a 2 1/2 year high. Previously the record was set in July of 2008 as a result of Iranian missile tests. Brent crude hit $147.02. Right now it's at $123.90.

64 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:06:24pm

There's a thing called a stylometry. Authors write the same all the time. It takes a bit of a sample, but you can build a wordprint for a specific author and check it against their other works.

It seems to me this would be an easy thing to do. Ayers has written multiple books.

But that would be too easy, wouldn't it?

65 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:07:12pm

Hang on while I put on my media hype sunglasses on. And in 3 years the price of refining oil has gone up this much? No wait. I know what it is. The oil companies are taking advantage of the hype. They wouldn't do that would they? ;)

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:07:23pm

re: #61 EmmmieG

Why on earth are you facebook friends with anti-semites?

They go to pages about Israel, or musicians who are going to play in Israel--stuff like that--and spew.

I, and some others, hassle them back.

I don't do it so much any longer because it's really kind of pointless, but occasionally we have a jump-in. Like when they were hassling Macy Gray.

They hassled Pete Seeger too, but Pete Seeger is over ninety, and really doesn't need the approval of a bunch of jerks on Facebook.

67 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:07:50pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Any reason why? Odd because the food prices aren't that good.

And take it from me... food is going up even higher by summer. Careful. The stores are running interesting sales schemes right now, so as the prices go up, the sales will make you feel like you're still getting a bargain.

A new idea recently... giving you about 5 dollars worth of product (or a gift card for 5 dollars in cash value for use in store) for purchasing 4 items of some sort. Like 4 boxes of Post cereal.

But, a month later, after they have gotten you into this habit of buying 4 of something for 5 dollars of something else, they start raising the prices of the first something.

You feel like your getting the same deal, your not. We have 3 or 4 such deals like this going on at the store right now, and they have been since the beginning of the year. But the price of the base products, the ones you have to buy to get the 5 dollars in something back, those prices have steadily risen.

68 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:08:21pm

re: #55 Gus 802

A look back.

Exxon Mobil: Biggest profit in history
The largest U.S. oil company surges past analysts' estimates with a posted net income of $14.83 billion and sets a national record for quarterly profit.
October 30, 2008

Today we're actually finding lower oil prices then the 140.97 we're seeing here but slightly higher gasoline prices.

A simple person would think that all these massive profits (and not only oil recently) would filter into the economy pretty fast and make a big difference, but for some strange reason they don't seem to, and I'm too simple to figure it out.

I just imaging how things would look if there was a sudden influx of $15 billion worth of jobs or equipment orders in the economy. This corporate profit money must be of a different color.

69 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:09:18pm

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

They go to pages about Israel, or musicians who are going to play in Israel--stuff like that--and spew.

I, and some others, hassle them back.

I don't do it so much any longer because it's really kind of pointless, but occasionally we have a jump-in. Like when they were hassling Macy Gray.

They hassled Pete Seeger too, but Pete Seeger is over ninety, and really doesn't need the approval of a bunch of jerks on Facebook.

Ah, I thought these were "friends", and I was wondering why they would want to be your "friend."

(There needs to be a new word for facebook-approved-person, as a good chunk of mine actually fall into the category of "relative.")

70 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:09:21pm

re: #65 Gus 802

Hang on while I put on my media hype sunglasses on. And in 3 years the price of refining oil has gone up this much? No wait. I know what it is. The oil companies are taking advantage of the hype. They wouldn't do that would they? ;)

Meanwhile, OPEC's cut back production due to what it perceives as a market that's oversupplied with oil. But hey, who am I to argue with Big Oil?

/

71 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:09:54pm

re: #70 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Meanwhile, OPEC's cut back production due to what it perceives as a market that's oversupplied with oil. But hey, who am I to argue with Big Oil?

/

Yeah. Just smoke lots of bud and don't think about it. ;)

//

72 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:10:43pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Yeah. Just smoke lots of bud and don't think about it. ;)

//

Pass the bong!

73 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:12:40pm

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

And take it from me... food is going up even higher by summer. Careful. The stores are running interesting sales schemes right now, so as the prices go up, the sales will make you feel like you're still getting a bargain.

A new idea recently... giving you about 5 dollars worth of product (or a gift card for 5 dollars in cash value for use in store) for purchasing 4 items of some sort. Like 4 boxes of Post cereal.

But, a month later, after they have gotten you into this habit of buying 4 of something for 5 dollars of something else, they start raising the prices of the first something.

You feel like your getting the same deal, your not. We have 3 or 4 such deals like this going on at the store right now, and they have been since the beginning of the year. But the price of the base products, the ones you have to buy to get the 5 dollars in something back, those prices have steadily risen.

Classically, coupons and discounts have been a way to subvert wage/price controls, as in the Nixon era. Prices are raised in anticipation, then discounted back to competitive reality. When clumsy controls are emplaced, the prices stay the same, but the discounts and coupons start to vaporize.

74 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:13:29pm

re: #70 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Meanwhile, OPEC's cut back production due to what it perceives as a market that's oversupplied with oil. But hey, who am I to argue with Big Oil?

/

But seriously. I've mentioned it before. Even if we increased domestic production? Oil would be trading at the same price. The commodities exchange wouldn't change for the USA with increased production. It's not about how much oil they can produce but how much oil they FEAR they may not be able to produce. If you can't get oil from Libya, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia that would mean increased demand for limited production from the USA and Canada. Which would still mean increased oil prices because there would still be both limited production and reduced demand.

75 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:17:40pm

re: #74 Gus 802

But seriously. I've mentioned it before. Even if we increased domestic production? Oil would be trading at the same price. The commodities exchange wouldn't change for the USA with increased production. It's not about how much oil they can produce but how much oil they FEAR they may not be able to produce. If you can't get oil from Libya, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia that would mean increased demand for limited production from the USA and Canada. Which would still mean increased oil prices because there would still be both limited production and reduced demand.

Ayep, every time I've talked to one of these "Drill, Baby, Drill" morons, I've asked a simple question: "Where is that oil going to go?" It's going to end up on the world market, which means it could go anywhere from China to Iran, depending on the final product. If you believe that increased drilling here in the States will mean that oil goes exclusively to us, then I got some beachfront real estate in Nevada that I'm letting go for very low prices.

76 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:18:35pm

re: #75 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

A large part of the oil coming out of Alaska already goes to China since it's cheaper to ship there.

77 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:19:02pm

I've gone off topic! Freetoken's fault! //

More...

As Oil Industry Fights a Tax, It Reaps Subsidies

When the Deepwater Horizon drilling platform set off the worst oil spill at sea in American history, it was flying the flag of the Marshall Islands. Registering there allowed the rig’s owner to significantly reduce its American taxes.

The owner, Transocean, moved its corporate headquarters from Houston to the Cayman Islands in 1999 and then to Switzerland in 2008, maneuvers that also helped it avoid taxes.

At the same time, BP was reaping sizable tax benefits from leasing the rig. According to a letter sent in June to the Senate Finance Committee, the company used a tax break for the oil industry to write off 70 percent of the rent for Deepwater Horizon — a deduction of more than $225,000 a day since the lease began...

So there you have it. This reminds us of how they register vessels overseas to skirt taxes and registration fees. You also get to use ships with crappy maintenance records and 3rd world crews. But, in this case you get to have 4 billion dollars a year in subsidies to the oil companies.

78 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:19:32pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Classically, coupons and discounts have been a way to subvert wage/price controls, as in the Nixon era. Prices are raised in anticipation, then discounted back to competitive reality. When clumsy controls are emplaced, the prices stay the same, but the discounts and coupons start to vaporize.

I see a lot of discussion about coupons around the web these days. I see coupons as a scam to keep people buying crap that they should be eating anyways. I never see coupons for potatoes, rice or onions.

79 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:20:13pm

re: #75 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ayep, every time I've talked to one of these "Drill, Baby, Drill" morons, I've asked a simple question: "Where is that oil going to go?" It's going to end up on the world market, which means it could go anywhere from China to Iran, depending on the final product. If you believe that increased drilling here in the States will mean that oil goes exclusively to us, then I got some beachfront real estate in Nevada that I'm letting go for very low prices.

Exactly. Take wheat for example. The drought in Texas has affected wheat prices worldwide.

80 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:20:40pm

re: #76 Dreggas

A large part of the oil coming out of Alaska already goes to China since it's cheaper to ship there.

Yep, we export all sorts of energy, from oil, to coal, to natural gas. But, the pollution stays here. We're ruining our own backyard, only to see the end product end up going overseas to feed the economy that we're relying upon for "cheap" goods.

81 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:21:00pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

I see a lot of discussion about coupons around the web these days. I see coupons as a scam to keep people buying crap that they should be eating anyways. I never see coupons for potatoes, rice or onions.

Actually, I've had this discussion with my husband multiple times. There are all those lovely ads in the newspaper. As I have pointed out to him, they are usually for highly processed snack foods, or for stores where the prices are higher to begin with.

82 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:21:01pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

I see a lot of discussion about coupons around the web these days. I see coupons as a scam to keep people buying crap that they should be eating anyways. I never see coupons for potatoes, rice or onions.

There's even and 'actuality' TV show for the afflicted: "Extreme Couponing".

83 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:21:36pm

re: #56 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The Right's response? "The government's responsible for high gas prices! Gas taxes are too high! And the government's getting in the way of oil drilling, keeping prices high! And the EPA's different blends are raising refining costs! Ethanol costs are driving up prices!"

And God help you if you suggested that Big Oil was doing anything to keep the prices high.

The market is speculating over the fear of even higher prices. With the increased demands of China and India there is some objective need for this. But it gets out of hand at the slightest provocation.

84 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:22:06pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

There's even and 'actuality' TV show for the afflicted: "Extreme Couponing".

My brother was telling me about his sister-in-law who is an extreme couponer.

She had some number of hundreds of containers of scrubbing bubbles from one afternoon's excursion.

Yeah.

85 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:23:18pm

re: #83 blueraven

The market is speculating over the fear of even higher prices. With the increased demands of China and India there is some objective need for this. But it gets out of hand at the slightest provocation.

Yep. And the GOP's been fighting efforts to clamp down such runaway speculation for years now. Why? Because their buddies on Wall Street are making a mint by allowing such speculation.

86 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:23:32pm

I spent some time Playing Portal 2 today. It seems they kept the original spirit of the game in tact. I think it was originally meant to be a game marketed at girls and they kept the same dark, mean and manipulative humor that made the first game so fun.They didn't mess with the game play but they did add some cool new features keeping the spirit of the first game. The early levels are really easy but I suppose that's necessary for people who haven't played before. It's a real mind fuck the first time you play. Lot's of fun.

87 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:23:56pm

re: #80 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yep, we export all sorts of energy, from oil, to coal, to natural gas. But, the pollution stays here. We're ruining our own backyard, only to see the end product end up going overseas to feed the economy that we're relying upon for "cheap" goods.

Lumber. The Japanese love wood "chips" for paper mills. Easy to ship as well -- almost like shipping wheat.

88 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:24:24pm

re: #84 EmmmieG

My brother was telling me about his sister-in-law who is an extreme couponer.

She had some number of hundreds of containers of scrubbing bubbles from one afternoon's excursion.

Yeah.

Should be safe to make gin in her bathtub.

89 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:25:06pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

I spent some time Playing Portal 2 today. It seems they kept the original spirit of the game in tact. I think it was originally meant to be a game marketed at girls and they kept the same dark, mean and manipulative humor that made the first game so fun.They didn't mess with the game play but they did add some cool new features keeping the spirit of the first game. The early levels are really easy but I suppose that's necessary for people who haven't played before. It's a real mind fuck the first time you play. Lot's of fun.

Perhaps now they can finally get around to Half-Life 2: Episode 3.

90 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:25:29pm

re: #84 EmmmieG

My brother was telling me about his sister-in-law who is an extreme couponer.

She had some number of hundreds of containers of scrubbing bubbles from one afternoon's excursion.

Yeah.

..and that illustrates the whole gimmick. She bought more than she needed and now has a giant stockpile which she will use wastefully.

91 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:25:50pm

re: #89 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Perhaps now they can finally get around to Half-Life 2: Episode 3.

WHERE THE HELL IS ELITE IV?!?!

92 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:26:02pm

re: #84 EmmmieG

My brother was telling me about his sister-in-law who is an extreme couponer.

She had some number of hundreds of containers of scrubbing bubbles from one afternoon's excursion.

Yeah.

I've checked out people a the register who have enough smarts about the coupons they have to make a 150 dollar basket go down half price. Of course, I don't know it everything they have purchased they really need or use.

There are really ways to beat the system using coupons, and just like casinos have ways to reign in the professional gamblers and make it harder from them to operate, stores have ways of keeping coupon experts from abusing the system.

Coupon people will sometimes even work in teams to maximize purchase power.

93 Cheechako  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:26:32pm

re: #76 Dreggas

A large part of the oil coming out of Alaska already goes to China since it's cheaper to ship there.


Not true. The Act authorizing the Trans Alaska pipeline required all Alaska oil to be refined in the US. The oil is refined either in Alaska or shipped to refineries on the west coast of the US.

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:27:40pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

I see a lot of discussion about coupons around the web these days. I see coupons as a scam to keep people buying crap that they should be eating anyways. I never see coupons for potatoes, rice or onions.

Safeway does have some nice club discounts from their regular prices on seasonal produce.

The little Italian place down the road is still usually cheaper, though.

95 Justaminute  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:27:43pm

O/T I'm getting so fed up living in a red state like Oklahoma. Health care reform "we don't need no stinkin Obamacare!" they chant and made Gov. Fallin decline the funds. Today, I had a cook show up for work looking like someone had beat the heck out of him. Twenty minutes into his shift he "accidently" fell down in the bathroom. He claims his arm is injured and yes, we saw that big bulge when he came in. So he's off to the hospital to get checked out. I guess he thinks that the doctors won't notice his black and bruised face. I also guess he doesn't remember we closed the restaurant last Monday to have the floors chemically treated and cleaned and the floors are slip resistant. I guess this is the way Oklahomans want to pay for their health care. Rant off.

96 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:28:10pm

re: #92 Walter L. Newton

I've checked out people a the register who have enough smarts about the coupons they have to make a 150 dollar basket go down half price. Of course, I don't know it everything they have purchased they really need or use.

There are really ways to beat the system using coupons, and just like casinos have ways to reign in the professional gamblers and make it harder from them to operate, stores have ways of keeping coupon experts from abusing the system.

Coupon people will sometimes even work in teams to maximize purchase power.

Don't be kneecapping the old ladies.

97 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:28:11pm

re: #85 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yep. And the GOP's been fighting efforts to clamp down such runaway speculation for years now. Why? Because their buddies on Wall Street are making a mint by allowing such speculation.

I think in a few months, June maybe, one of the members of the regulatory board that overlook this will be ending his term. Obama will have a chance to appoint someone to be more even handed and lend more balance to the (now) conservative leaning board.

98 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:29:03pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Don't be kneecapping the old ladies.

I won't... on on that note... I have a 5 to midnight shift tonight... got to go sell some groceries. Later.

99 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:29:32pm

re: #84 EmmmieG

My brother was telling me about his sister-in-law who is an extreme couponer.

She had some number of hundreds of containers of scrubbing bubbles from one afternoon's excursion.

Yeah.

Hundreds? Wha?

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:30:02pm

re: #95 Justaminute

O/T I'm getting so fed up living in a red state like Oklahoma. Health care reform "we don't need no stinkin Obamacare!" they chant and made Gov. Fallin decline the funds. Today, I had a cook show up for work looking like someone had beat the heck out of him. Twenty minutes into his shift he "accidently" fell down in the bathroom. He claims his arm is injured and yes, we saw that big bulge when he came in. So he's off to the hospital to get checked out. I guess he thinks that the doctors won't notice his black and bruised face. I also guess he doesn't remember we closed the restaurant last Monday to have the floors chemically treated and cleaned and the floors are slip resistant. I guess this is the way Oklahomans want to pay for their health care. Rant off.

Or, could be that Oklahoma will also spend monies sending a cop to ask his wife about where she was when he 'accidentally fell down'.

101 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:30:40pm

Yep. Just bought a container ship full of toilet paper. Should last me for the rest of my life.

//

102 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:30:48pm

re: #92 Walter L. Newton

I've checked out people a the register who have enough smarts about the coupons they have to make a 150 dollar basket go down half price. Of course, I don't know it everything they have purchased they really need or use.

There are really ways to beat the system using coupons, and just like casinos have ways to reign in the professional gamblers and make it harder from them to operate, stores have ways of keeping coupon experts from abusing the system.

Coupon people will sometimes even work in teams to maximize purchase power.

One friend told me about her husband and the frozen OJ concentrate and the coupon.

"I know your coupon says 'limit 10', but I have ten coupons. We can do this the easy way, or the hard way. Let me submit all ten coupons, or I will go through the line ten times."

It worked.

103 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:31:21pm

re: #101 Gus 802

Yep. Just bought a container ship full of toilet paper. Should last me for the rest of my life.

//

Now, I do have to say, you can never have too much toilet paper.

104 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:31:27pm

re: #89 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Perhaps now they can finally get around to Half-Life 2: Episode 3.

I didn't really care for Half Life. I played about half way through and got bored. The plot was dull and unnecessary. Running down hallways collecting healthpacks and power ups becameboring to me about 10 years ago. They just haven't done much with the first person shooters since Doom and Duke Nukem. Game developers are convinced that their plots are important cinematic experiences but I find them dull. I also don;t care much for flashy graphics unless they actually help the game play. I much prefer a game like Minecraft over Half Life.

105 Cheechako  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:32:51pm

re: #93 Cheechako

Not true. The Act authorizing the Trans Alaska pipeline required all Alaska oil to be refined in the US. The oil is refined either in Alaska or shipped to refineries on the west coast of the US.


The oil also has to be transported in US flagged tankers.

106 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:33:31pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

Safeway does have some nice club discounts from their regular prices on seasonal produce.

The little Italian place down the road is still usually cheaper, though.

I do have a Safeway club card and it does produce some nice savings. I like the Safeway thing because you can give them a fake name and address. I still smile at when the cashier says, "Thank you, Mr. Trout"

107 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:34:25pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

I didn't really care for Half Life. I played about half way through and got bored. The plot was dull and unnecessary. Running down hallways collecting healthpacks and power ups becameboring to me about 10 years ago. They just haven't done much with the first person shooters since Doom and Duke Nukem. Game developers are convinced that their plots are important cinematic experiences but I find them dull. I also don;t care much for flashy graphics unless they actually help the game play. I much prefer a game like Minecraft over Half Life.

Hence why the only FPS games I've ever really gotten into have been Fallout 3/New Vegas (which are more hybrids than straight FPS) and the Bioshock series because of the story behind it.

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:36:36pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I do have a Safeway club card and it does produce some nice savings. I like the Safeway thing because you can give them a fake name and address. I still smile at when the cashier says, "Thank you, Mr. Trout"

My husband doesn't like ours because it's in my maiden name, and they call him Mr. Zionist.

109 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:36:54pm

re: #107 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hence why the only FPS games I've ever really gotten into have been Fallout 3/New Vegas (which are more hybrids than straight FPS) and the Bioshock series because of the story behind it.

Both were enjoyable for me at first but I didn't finish either one. I did really enjoy TF2 and played it almost daily for years until it got a little too dull. It's kind of campy but it's very playable and fun if you play with good people.

110 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:37:09pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I do have a Safeway club card and it does produce some nice savings. I like the Safeway thing because you can give them a fake name and address. I still smile at when the cashier says, "Thank you, Mr. Trout"

Fred Meyer needs your real address because they send you a quarterly check and some actually valuable coupons. ($2 off of produce, minimum purchase $2.)

111 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:39:25pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Both were enjoyable for me at first but I didn't finish either one. I did really enjoy TF2 and played it almost daily for years until it got a little too dull. It's kind of campy but it's very playable and fun if you play with good people.

Never played TF2, mostly because when I had a system that could handle it, my internet connection didn't like it and vice versa. At the same time, I never really liked console multiplayer games, because I've never been comfortable playing FPS games with a gamepad.

112 justaminute  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:39:40pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

Or, could be that Oklahoma will also spend monies sending a cop to ask his wife about where she was when he 'accidentally fell down'.

No, I bet they won't. We had this crazy guy outside the restaurant hanging around the bus stop go out of his mind. He started screaming and flipping people off that were walking into the restaurant. The traffic was pretty heavy and he started laying down in the middle of the street. The cars would stop and he would jump up and scream at them. We called the police and they said they had 5 calls reporting this incident. This went on for 20 minutes. No cops. Bus comes, he get on it. Could the legislature in Ok banning bargaining rights be slowing the police down? They always show up in 5 minutes before.

113 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:40:22pm

re: #107 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I never really tried any of the FPS mentioned there. The ones that I have played are (off the top of my head): Medal of Honor, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (and the expansions), Call of Duty 1, and Battlefield 1942 (I have the collectors edition that includes Battlefield: Vietnam). With the exception of the original MoH game for the PS, all the others are for the PC (I just like the better control I have over targeting). I did play Halo 2 a while ago, just never got into it. Not much into the fantasy/sci-fi much. My favorite FPS is Battlefield 1942, mainly because of all of the mods for it (my current favorite mod is the Desert Combat one).

114 3CPO  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:42:31pm

It's not particularly relevant, but does anyone else think that Breitbart always seems to look like he woke up hungover on a park bench somewhere?

115 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:45:41pm

re: #111 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

At the same time, I never really liked console multiplayer games, because I've never been comfortable playing FPS games with a gamepad.

The only time I like using gamepads for playing is with RPGs and, to a lesser extent, racing games. For shooting games, a mouse is much superior than a gamepad if you want control and accuracy.

116 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:45:49pm

re: #113 commadore183

I never really tried any of the FPS mentioned there. The ones that I have played are (off the top of my head): Medal of Honor, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (and the expansions), Call of Duty 1, and Battlefield 1942 (I have the collectors edition that includes Battlefield: Vietnam). With the exception of the original MoH game for the PS, all the others are for the PC (I just like the better control I have over targeting). I did play Halo 2 a while ago, just never got into it. Not much into the fantasy/sci-fi much. My favorite FPS is Battlefield 1942, mainly because of all of the mods for it (my current favorite mod is the Desert Combat one).

Yeah, used to play MoH: Allied Assault and BF1942 a great deal back in the day. BF1942 especially, playing the Forgotten Hope mod. Been thinking about downloading BF1943 for the XBox, just to get that feeling again. Or simply waiting for BF3 to come out.

117 Simply Sarah  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:47:05pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Both were enjoyable for me at first but I didn't finish either one. I did really enjoy TF2 and played it almost daily for years until it got a little too dull. It's kind of campy but it's very playable and fun if you play with good people.

TF2 can be a lot of fun. I sorta liked it more back before it became Hat Fortress 2, though.

118 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:48:31pm
119 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:51:24pm

re: #117 Simply Sarah

TF2 can be a lot of fun. I sorta liked it more back before it became Hat Fortress 2, though.

Yeah, that's about when I lost interest too. I think they were putting too much effort into gimmicks and not enough into improving the game play. I still try to play a little bit now and then to see if they've improved the game any. I would buy TF3 if they would make it.

120 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:53:12pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I do have a Safeway club card and it does produce some nice savings. I like the Safeway thing because you can give them a fake name and address. I still smile at when the cashier says, "Thank you, Mr. Trout"

LOL!

121 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 3:55:50pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I do have a Safeway club card and it does produce some nice savings. I like the Safeway thing because you can give them a fake name and address. I still smile at when the cashier says, "Thank you, Mr. Trout"

I use my wife's ex-husband's old phone number - and he moved back to Australia about eight years ago.

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:01:57pm

re: #121 darthstar

I use my wife's ex-husband's old phone number - and he moved back to Australia about eight years ago.

When I merged households with my husband, his moms had been using their old phone number, which he couldn't remember, and it turned out that our current phone number was registered with Safeway in the name of one Maria Garcia, so I was Maria for about three years. It didn't seem as though this could harm her in any way.

123 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:02:04pm

re: #12 simoom

I remain extremely leery of the idea, that the national media providing a platform for daily smears, rumors and innuendo that questions the President's honesty, loyalties, patriotism and faith, will end up having a net positive outcome for the President. I suspect that much of the american public is prone to thoughts of "where there's so much smoke there must be fire" and splitting the difference opposing sides in a debate.

I worry about this too, but so far the only people who are buying this stuff seem to be people who are inclined to not like Obama anyway. They are already Republican voters and/or racists. Obama's job approval numbers are struggling, but his personal approval numbers are really high. The kind that any president seeking a second term would want. Also polls show most Americans don't believe he's all that far left. Again only Republicans believe this. If most Americans like the guy, they are unlikely to believe that he's a fraudulent, lying foreigner who's out to destroy the country on purpose. I could be wrong, but it seems as if for the last 2.5 years these wingnuts have been talking to other wingnuts in order to rally the base with resentment and anger as opposed to ideas. They aren't really talking to anyone else because most other Americans aren't that susceptible and they know it.

124 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:04:49pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd moved MANY times since I got my Safeway, now Vons in LA card. No clue on the phone number. A nice cashier gave me the generic number. Area Code 123-4567!

125 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:05:46pm

I don't think he *BELIEVES* it I think he constantly says it and gets rubes to believe it


BB: internet troll who made a career out of it

126 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:07:20pm

re: #125 WindUpBird

I don't think he *BELIEVES* it I think he constantly says it and gets rubes to believe it

BB: internet troll who made a career out of it

None of these assholes believe what they're saying. They're simply competing for attention so they can drive traffic to their sites and make a buck.

127 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:07:50pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

I didn't really care for Half Life. I played about half way through and got bored. The plot was dull and unnecessary. Running down hallways collecting healthpacks and power ups becameboring to me about 10 years ago. They just haven't done much with the first person shooters since Doom and Duke Nukem. Game developers are convinced that their plots are important cinematic experiences but I find them dull. I also don;t care much for flashy graphics unless they actually help the game play. I much prefer a game like Minecraft over Half Life.

pssst: they were doing way more with FPSes before Doom!

Google the original System Shock. A thousand times more deep than Doom or Duke Nukem. came out at the same time as Doom. Got no press, it was the Velvet Underground of FPSes

128 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:08:17pm

re: #126 darthstar

None of these assholes believe what they're saying. They're simply competing for attention so they can drive traffic to their sites and make a buck.

yup

Internet!

And then the dumb sheep buy it

129 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:09:15pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I do have a Safeway club card and it does produce some nice savings. I like the Safeway thing because you can give them a fake name and address. I still smile at when the cashier says, "Thank you, Mr. Trout"

Speaking of fish...and Safeway. Yesterday was my MIL's birthday. She loves fish so I went shopping and found a nice salmon to cook for her.

I used the method in this video from Alton Brown. Turned out great! I served with grilled asparagus and a couscous/quinoa vegetable dish. And cake of course...cheescake w/fresh strawberries.


[Link: www.5min.com...]

130 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:10:20pm

re: #128 WindUpBird

yup

Internet!

And then the dumb sheep buy it

The biggest fear they have is being ignored. That's death on the internet. If you could get everyone on the planet to ignore Brietbart for three days, he'd probably get himself back in the news by running naked through a mall waving a Samurai sword...which, quite frankly, is where he belongs.

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:12:35pm

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

They go to pages about Israel, or musicians who are going to play in Israel--stuff like that--and spew.

I, and some others, hassle them back.

I don't do it so much any longer because it's really kind of pointless, but occasionally we have a jump-in. Like when they were hassling Macy Gray.

They hassled Pete Seeger too, but Pete Seeger is over ninety, and really doesn't need the approval of a bunch of jerks on Facebook.

I'd love to go trash the shit out of anyone who harshed on Orphaned Land, those guys were the best opening act I've seen since [band nobody knows anything about]

132 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:13:48pm

re: #129 blueraven

Speaking of fish...and Safeway. Yesterday was my MIL's birthday. She loves fish so I went shopping and found a nice salmon to cook for her.

I used the method in this video from Alton Brown. Turned out great! I served with grilled asparagus and a couscous/quinoa vegetable dish. And cake of course...cheescake w/fresh strawberries.

[Link: www.5min.com...]

Nice. Quinoa and fish is a great combo.

133 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:14:19pm

re: #130 darthstar

The biggest fear they have is being ignored. That's death on the internet. If you could get everyone on the planet to ignore Brietbart for three days, he'd probably get himself back in the news by running naked through a mall waving a Samurai sword...which, quite frankly, is where he belongs.

just seems like a waste of time at the end of the day

"What'd you do with your life?"

"Well, I trolled people and smeared them on the internet."

"Well, this guy here recorded a bunch of albums and that guy there traveled Europe and started a brewery."

134 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:16:17pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

There's even and 'actuality' TV show for the afflicted: "Extreme Couponing".

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

135 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:17:01pm

re: #134 WindUpBird

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Nope, i've heard of it before.

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:17:07pm

I'm going to pitch a TV show about changing tires, just random people getting flats. "Change that tire on your Infinity Q45, grandma! No AAA! get out the jack, put it together!"

137 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:17:22pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Nope, i've heard of it before.

I don't even know anything anymore

138 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:17:32pm

re: #129 blueraven

Speaking of fish...and Safeway. Yesterday was my MIL's birthday. She loves fish so I went shopping and found a nice salmon to cook for her.

I used the method in this video from Alton Brown. Turned out great! I served with grilled asparagus and a couscous/quinoa vegetable dish. And cake of course...cheescake w/fresh strawberries.

[Link: www.5min.com...]

I love Alton Brown. I find the amount of explaining he does about the chemical process of whatever you're doing extremely helpful.

139 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:18:13pm

re: #136 WindUpBird

If I want to watch people change tyres, then I'll turn on an auto race.

140 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:18:25pm

Acclaimed photojournalist Chris Hondros died in Misrata, Libya, of wounds he suffered, Getty Images said Wednesday.

141 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:18:31pm

Is the Tv show like Hoarders? That i get, because hoarders are interesting in their psychosis, there's a visual there, maze-like houses stacked with newspapers and garbage


COUPONS?!?! How do you shoot that? How do you make that interesting?

142 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:19:27pm

re: #139 commadore183

If I want to watch people change tyres, then I'll turn on an auto race.

that's no fun! The whole point is that it's difficult to figure out proprietary car jacks and watch people with AAA cards try and change a tire :D

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:19:31pm

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

I love Alton Brown. I find the amount of explaining he does about the chemical process of whatever you're doing extremely helpful.

Also, at the seder, my hostess made this incredible salmon. I need to pry the whole recipe out of her. It starts with soaking the fish in slivovitz, and it tastes like the Platonic idea of baked salmon.

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:20:16pm

re: #140 Varek Raith

Acclaimed photojournalist Chris Hondros died in Misrata, Libya, of wounds he suffered, Getty Images said Wednesday.

That's two journalists lost in Misrata. DAMN.

145 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:21:13pm

re: #144 SanFranciscoZionist

That's two journalists lost in Misrata. DAMN.

some of the bravest guys on earth

146 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:22:04pm

re: #142 WindUpBird

Hehehe, I would be good for that show, as I've changed plenty of tyres in the past, what, 4 years. There was one tyre that got punctured by a large Allen wrench thing. Not sure how, but it happened. I've had a lot of punctured tyres in the previous 4 or so years, so I'm well versed in the use of jacks and tyre wrenches.

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:24:14pm

re: #146 commadore183

Hehehe, I would be good for that show, as I've changed plenty of tyres in the past, what, 4 years. There was one tyre that got punctured by a large Allen wrench thing. Not sure how, but it happened. I've had a lot of punctured tyres in the previous 4 or so years, so I'm well versed in the use of jacks and tyre wrenches.

I have the worst luck with tire damage as well. :( Had a blowout going 70 on the freeway, during rush hour, in a car with no airbags, YEAH! Pulled over, the tire was gone. it was shredded to the point where it was just the rim, and then a dandelion like bloom of tire shreds, still smoking. The closest I've ever come to overturning a car, I felt one side leave the ground for a second

148 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:24:32pm

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

I love Alton Brown. I find the amount of explaining he does about the chemical process of whatever you're doing extremely helpful.

I love Alton too. He is one of my favorites. Although I have grilled fish many times before, I was always afraid to place it directly on the grill. I usually use one of those grill fish baskets. But the fish didn't stick and came out beautifully browned and crusty on the outside. Better than a grill basket IMO.

I also bake potatoes the way he explained on a show I watched years ago. Wash potatoes, dry them, then coat with a thin layer of oil (I like olive oil for this). Then roll in kosher salt. Place directly on center oven rack. No foil, no pan.

About an hour on 375 for a good sized baking potato.

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:25:42pm

re: #148 blueraven

who's the host on that channel who has the delivery like a southern grandmother, and just happily makes the most vile and confounding food

150 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:26:50pm

re: #149 WindUpBird

who's the host on that channel who has the delivery like a southern grandmother, and just happily makes the most vile and confounding food

Paula Dean?

151 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:27:12pm

re: #147 WindUpBird

I have the worst luck with tire damage as well. :( Had a blowout going 70 on the freeway, during rush hour, in a car with no airbags, YEAH! Pulled over, the tire was gone. it was shredded to the point where it was just the rim, and then a dandelion like bloom of tire shreds, still smoking. The closest I've ever come to overturning a car, I felt one side leave the ground for a second

Never had that happen to me, thankfully. All of the tyre problems are with my mother, so I'm almost always riding with her in case she hits an nitrogen atom and punctures the left front (and it's almost always the left front tyre that goes flat

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:27:33pm

re: #150 blueraven

Paula Dean?

that's her!

I saw a thing of hers on youtube, I gagged and had to turn it off, it was some doughnut meets savory thing, I could NOT TAKE IT

153 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:28:05pm

re: #148 blueraven

He also did a great episode on Mayonnaise. It's really easy once you get the hang of it and homemade mayo is great. I use olive oil and mustard powder and it's delicious.

154 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:28:52pm

re: #153 Killgore Trout

mayo I like, in smallll doses. once the mayo becomes like a goopy ingredient in a sandwich? inedible to me

155 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:30:43pm

re: #152 WindUpBird

that's her!

I saw a thing of hers on youtube, I gagged and had to turn it off, it was some doughnut meets savory thing, I could NOT TAKE IT

Yes, most of her stuff is over the top. When she first started years ago on food network, before the dumb live show she has now, that I detest, she had some pretty good southern recipes.

As a child of the deep south, I do love that comfort food...in moderation though.

156 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:30:46pm

Speaking of tyre problems:

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:30:49pm

re: #152 WindUpBird

that's her!

I saw a thing of hers on youtube, I gagged and had to turn it off, it was some doughnut meets savory thing, I could NOT TAKE IT

Paula is a sweet lady, but I really don't want to eat most of what she makes. The woman believes in butter in a serious way.

158 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:31:31pm

re: #150 blueraven

Paula Dean?

I have a friend who called on her for business at her restaurant in Savannah before she was famous.
Paula always gave her a muffin and a sweet tea. She's great! She is not afraid of the butter.

159 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:31:58pm

re: #155 blueraven

Can you make a chocolate pound cake?

160 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:32:41pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Paula is a sweet lady, but I really don't want to eat most of what she makes. The woman believes in worships butter in a serious way.

There, fixed!

161 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:33:57pm

re: #159 prairiefire

Can you make a chocolate pound cake?

I have never tried. I consider myself a pretty good cook, but I am not a great baker, by any means. I would love to try though!

162 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:34:20pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Paula is a sweet lady, but I really don't want to eat most of what she makes. The woman believes in butter in a serious way.

I like butter too, but I don't just shove a stick of Land'O'Lakes into my face with the heel of my hand

163 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:34:51pm

re: #158 prairiefire

I have a friend who called on her for business at her restaurant in Savannah before she was famous.
Paula always gave her a muffin and a sweet tea. She's great! She is not afraid of the butter.

I just can't watch her make food :D She seems nice! But nice like the crazy mom in Better Off Dead

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:36:10pm

re: #155 blueraven

Yes, most of her stuff is over the top. When she first started years ago on food network, before the dumb live show she has now, that I detest, she had some pretty good southern recipes.

As a child of the deep south, I do love that comfort food...in moderation though.

I'm no health food nut, I love fried and gravy and grease and stuff, but DAAAAMNG

165 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:36:55pm

re: #164 WindUpBird

I'm no health food nut, I love fried and gravy and grease and stuff, but DAAAMNG

Wimp
:P

166 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:37:00pm

re: #162 WindUpBird

I like butter too, but I don't just shove a stick of Land'O'Lakes into my face with the heel of my hand

Dammit, now I'm cracking up at the mental image of her going "Now you just take this here stick of butter nyaw and -" and she does just that!

167 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:39:53pm

re: #162 WindUpBird

Butter seems to go directly to my thighs.
Sorry, for the TMI.

168 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:40:50pm

re: #165 Varek Raith

Wimp
:P

Have you seen it? Have you seen what she cooks?

169 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:41:13pm

re: #165 Varek Raith

it's like Homer Simpson's waffle

170 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:42:03pm

re: #161 blueraven

I have never tried. I consider myself a pretty good cook, but I am not a great baker, by any means. I would love to try though!

It's like the Holy Grail of Southern baking. I am not a baker, either.

171 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:42:23pm

re: #168 WindUpBird

Have you seen it? Have you seen what she cooks?

Nope.
:)

172 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:42:59pm

re: #164 WindUpBird

I'm no health food nut, I love fried and gravy and grease and stuff, but DAAAMNG

Oh I totally agree. Her show now is a parody. Just like Emeril Lagasse. When he first started on Food Network, he had a good show. Excellent dishes in a rather low key instructional manner. Then they changed it to the live format and it went to hell. Stupid!

I hardly watch FN anymore.

173 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:44:28pm

re: #172 blueraven

What part of the Deep South? I lived for several years in Ahhhgussthaa Gorgeha.

174 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:49:44pm

re: #173 prairiefire

What part of the Deep South? I lived for several years in Ahhhgussthaa Gorgeha.

I grew up in Savaaaannnaah! Yes, I know Paula Dean's place, Lady and Sons, very well. Even though she was not around when I lived there. I still get down there a few times a year. My folks are still there.

175 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:52:24pm

My lunch this weekend? (I'm gonna just join in here!) Sausage patties over biscuits, with sausage gravy all over it and on top - 2 fried eggs. Here in SoCal which is amazing.

Only thing missing was grits.

I miss Southern food.

176 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:53:16pm

It's gorgeous.
I prefer the mid-west, but we had a great time while we were there.

177 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:57:00pm

re: #175 Stanley Sea

Yum...I love sausage, biscuits and gravy, and grits too!

re: #176 prairiefire

It is lovely there, but Austin TX is home now. Its where I have lived for over half my life and raised my family. Love it here.

178 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 4:58:55pm

re: #177 blueraven

We have some lizards that live in Austin. You are not alone!

179 APox  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:00:16pm

He's such a toolbox.

180 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:04:04pm

re: #179 APox

He's such a toolbox.

And just what is wrong with toolboxes, if I may ask?

/

181 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:06:33pm

re: #129 blueraven

Speaking of fish...and Safeway. Yesterday was my MIL's birthday. She loves fish so I went shopping and found a nice salmon to cook for her.

I used the method in this video from Alton Brown. Turned out great! I served with grilled asparagus and a couscous/quinoa vegetable dish. And cake of course...cheescake w/fresh strawberries.

[Link: www.5min.com...]

1.) I want to be your MIL. I'm sorry the job is apparently filled.

2.) I haven't watched the recipe yet, because it was preceded by the first funny ad I've seen on the internet. I hope the recipe is as good.

182 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:14:30pm

re: #175 Stanley Sea

Nom nom nom!
5 mile run, afterwards?

183 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:14:37pm

re: #177 blueraven

Yum...I love sausage, biscuits and gravy, and grits too!

re: #176 prairiefire

It is lovely there, but Austin TX is home now. Its where I have lived for over half my life and raised my family. Love it here.

SISTER CITY! *wingsnugs*

184 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:17:12pm

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

Nom nom nom!
5 mile run, afterwards?

No, just nothing the rest of the day! One and out!

185 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:29:31pm

re: #129 blueraven

Speaking of fish...and Safeway. Yesterday was my MIL's birthday. She loves fish so I went shopping and found a nice salmon to cook for her.

I used the method in this video from Alton Brown. Turned out great! I served with grilled asparagus and a couscous/quinoa vegetable dish. And cake of course...cheescake w/fresh strawberries.

[Link: www.5min.com...]

Great recipe! I'm going to try those trimmed and tied salmon steaks.

As soon as I move out of New Mexico and have access to seafood again.

186 engineer cat  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:40:51pm

Reprising a position he took while running for president in 2008, Barack Obama on Tuesday endorsed one of the proposals made by his Bowles-Simpson fiscal commission: increase the amount of income subject to Social Security taxes.

The Social Security tax is imposed only on the first $106,800 of annual earned income. The Congressional Budget Office said increasing the maximum amount of taxable wages to $170,000 in 2012 and beyond would raise $468 billion in revenue over ten years.

(Generally, the maximum amount of taxable wages goes up every year in line with average wage growth, but since 2009 it has remained at $106,800.)

Obama said in an interview with NBC’s Tim Russert in November of 2007, “I think that the best way to approach this is to adjust the cap on the payroll tax so that people like myself are paying a little bit more.”

He said Tuesday, “For the vast majority of Americans, every dime you earn, you're paying some in Social Security. But for (billionaire investor) Warren Buffett, he stops paying at a little bit over $100,000 and then the next $50 billion he's not paying a dime in Social Security taxes.”

that's what i'm talkin' about!

187 dell*nix  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:40:53pm

Just a funny by Pink Martini

188 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:50:14pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

No, just nothing the rest of the day! One and out!

I lost 60 lbs doing this. One meal a day, anything I want. Rest of the day is zero or low calorie foods such as air-popped popcorn + yeast/tamari, pickles, unsweetened herbal ice tea, salad/vegetables w/o dressing, etc.

Of course simply exercising and being more active would be a healthier approach, but it wasn't possible at the time.

189 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:54:58pm

re: #129 blueraven

Speaking of fish...and Safeway. Yesterday was my MIL's birthday. She loves fish so I went shopping and found a nice salmon to cook for her.

I used the method in this video from Alton Brown. Turned out great! I served with grilled asparagus and a couscous/quinoa vegetable dish. And cake of course...cheescake w/fresh strawberries.

[Link: www.5min.com...]

That's an awesome-looking recipe. I'm crazy for salmon, and I think I'm going to have to give that a try.

190 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:55:03pm

re: #187 dell*nix

Just a funny by Pink Martini

[Video]

Thanks. That was a nice antidote to the video at the top of the page.

Later, lizards.

191 BongCrodny  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:08:15pm

re: #175 Stanley Sea

My lunch this weekend? (I'm gonna just join in here!) Sausage patties over biscuits, with sausage gravy all over it and on top - 2 fried eggs. Here in SoCal which is amazing.

Only thing missing was grits.

I miss Southern food.


Oh, great. Now I've got to clean off the drool from my keyboard.

192 Linden Arden  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:10:42pm

Another right-wing lie is gaining steam.

"Gas prices have doubled because of Obama!" - they say.

Yes, in Jan 2009 at the height of the financial crisis crude oil fell to $40ish per barrel and now is $108/bbl.


But crude hit $147/bbl back in 2008.


Cherry picking is easy!

193 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:11:08pm

re: #191 BongCrodny

Oh, great. Now I've got to clean off the drool from my keyboard.

Southern hospitality!

194 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:16:22pm

re: #141 WindUpBird

Is the Tv show like Hoarders? That i get, because hoarders are interesting in their psychosis, there's a visual there, maze-like houses stacked with newspapers and garbage

COUPONS?!?! How do you shoot that? How do you make that interesting?

195 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:38:49pm

Time stopped.

196 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:39:28pm

re: #195 Gus 802

Time stopped.

My bad.

197 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:39:54pm

re: #196 Varek Raith

My bad.

I should have known!

198 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:40:39pm

Prepare the Cletus at once! We're bound for the planet Confederate!

199 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:41:49pm

re: #198 Gus 802

Prepare the Cletus at once! We're bound for the planet Confederate!

Whoa, shit...
Did I mess up the timeline that bad?.....?

200 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:43:10pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Whoa, shit...
Did I mess up the timeline that bad?...?

Backwards-forwards. Just another bad Star Trek episode with William Shatner.

//How dare you insult...

//

201 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:44:26pm

re: #200 Gus 802

Backwards-forwards. Just another bad Star Trek episode with William Shatner.

//How dare you insult...

//

Kirk?
"That man was a menace"
-Starfleet Temporal Agent, DS9

202 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:52:19pm
203 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:59:19pm

re: #202 Gus 802

Speaking of backwards.

Arizona Legislature Approves Colt Revolver As Official State Gun

Got stupid?

Arizona is the new Florida

204 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 6:59:50pm
205 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 7:00:21pm

re: #198 Gus 802

Prepare the Cletus at once! We're bound for the planet Confederate!

you laugh but there are starfaring rubes in an episode of Lexx, and they all undergo spontaneous sexchanges

206 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 7:01:53pm

re: #203 WindUpBird

Arizona is the new Florida

This would be like France adopting the catapult as the "national weapon".

What are they going to do in 1000 years. That is if humans and the USA are still around? Have some stupid gun from the 1870s as a state symbol? Talk about knuckle dragging.

207 Amory Blaine  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 9:37:15pm

Guess I was ahead of the curve. I always thought he was fucking stupid. I mean all his so called sting operations are so easily debunked and dismissed a room of blind monkeys could figure out his juvenile skills.

:p


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